battlefield-2042

[lunar venture]

you clearly arent factoring in so many aspects

[jagged kettle]

yes if you love the franchise and you dont mind spending your money just buy i dont want to make people not buy it you do what you want with your money

[radiant prism]

7 in the main MP, plus 6 remakes for Portal and however maps are included for Hazard Zone

[lunar wigeon]

Thanks

[umbral falcon]

True. People who are not sure shouldn't be gung-ho about spending

[lunar venture]

a lot of people predicted that the game was going to launch poorly

[umbral falcon]

If you have a lick of doubt or sense you'll regret something, it's just best to wait

[radiant prism]

I think it makes sense, if they know they’re for sure going to buy the game regardless of state, I don’t see a reason why not to buy it

After all, it’s their money

[arctic grove]

just don't throw with money

[lunar venture]

just preorder through steam and you'll get refund regardless as long as you keep play time under two hours or whatever

[radiant prism]

I’m debating preordering for the same reason

[jagged kettle]

im not convinced of bf2042 until i see a trusted youtuber doing a gameplay and telling the specs of the pc and the game

[arctic grove]

only in a casino

[lunar venture]

PREORDERING DOES NOT COST MONEY FOLKS

[jagged kettle]

yes

[thick robin]

Hol up

[jagged kettle]

i mean yeah you can refund lol

so my whole point is shit

[thick robin]

Wait a minute

[north raven]

Yes, it does.

[lunar venture]

no it doesn't

[delicate hollow]

tell that to my bank account

[lunar venture]

i have yet to be charged for my preorder of BF2042

[arctic grove]

nah I think he's right man

[jagged kettle]

e mean you have to do the payment

then you can refund

[arctic grove]

If you do the math

[jagged kettle]

(atleast in my country)

[north raven]

By pre-ordering you reserve your copy early & you get early access to content & beta so it costs money.

[plucky apex]

Who wants Metro and Ziba Tower remastered in 2042?

[lunar venture]

obviously but you'll get charged closer to the date of release is what i've been saying

[delicate hollow]

its not a bf game without a metro style map

[umbral falcon]

I just believe he means it doesn't cost money until the week before launch, just because you can go back on your choice later down the road (if you desire)

[jagged kettle]

yes

[thick robin]

Goodbye COD

[delicate hollow]

starboard me peasants

[thick robin]

Hello BF Portal

[plucky apex]

You need infantry style maps too...

[jagged kettle]

yes but it does not cut the fact that you have to put money and do the payment until you dont refund the money is with the company

[umbral falcon]

Man I'm so excited for that

[delicate hollow]

metro is all infantry?

[plucky apex]

Yes

[arctic grove]

Hopefully they'll add a map like Operation Locker

[lunar venture]

what?

[plucky apex]

Metro > Locker

[umbral falcon]

Honestly I wish they chose metro as one of the bf3 maps, but caspain and canals are really good tho...

[radiant prism]

I don’t really want any Locker/Metro style maps in the main MP tbh, but I wouldn’t mind them in Portal

[arctic grove]

That's an opinion not a fact

[plucky apex]

Ziba Tower > Metro > Locker

[lunar venture]

nah. it's a fact

[verbal pike]

locker is garbage

[thick robin]

XM8 Prototype ,the Syrette Pistol, and against Germans on Operation Locker? Heeeeeeelll yeah!

[arctic grove]

😢

[delicate hollow]

i like the fact we are getting old maps, but i care more about seeing new maps and learning new areas

[thick robin]

What’s Ziba Tower

[umbral falcon]

True

[arctic grove]

I mean that map shown with the rocket is getting me really hyped

[jagged kettle]

a map with a tower

[plucky apex]

If you've been playing battlefield before BF4, you'd definitely pick metro over locker. Locker was made solely to appease the Metro fans from BF3 lol

[delicate hollow]

rocket cool and all

but that desert man

[umbral falcon]

In the end, the portal is sick af. Although, I see myself just playing the base game most of the time. Kinda like how everyone usuallyresorts back to conquest over any other gamemode

[plucky apex]

Bruh, its the best battlefield infantry map in my opinion. Like if I were to pick anything above Metro its gonna be Ziba Tower!

The close quarter combats are pretty sick!

[jagged kettle]

breakthrough is my favorite gamemode

[umbral falcon]

BUT, BC2 is my favourite battlefield, so that Arica Harbor is gonna get me on that portal 😳

[unkempt tartan]

yoo

im so fucking hyped

FUCK

BC2 was my shit bro

my first battlefield game

and i fell in love

[umbral falcon]

Same ^

[jagged kettle]

bayern is shit

[unkempt tartan]

we are one alike

[umbral falcon]

Well BC1, but I loved bc2

[unkempt tartan]

fuck off

[plucky apex]

Having been a fan of both BC2 and BF3, I'd pick BF3 over BC2!

[jagged kettle]

im joking

[unkempt tartan]

i know

[plucky apex]

Imo BF3 is the best battlefield ever made

[jagged kettle]

lol no

[fleet hornet]

**Hello there people! Press the ''v'' if you are hyped and really happy about the upcoming game! **

[unkempt tartan]

BC2 for me because of the memories and hours

[stuck ridge]

So are there naval vehicles in Portal? It shows in the noshar canal picture?!

[arctic grove]

Maybe that will change

[weary verge]

not happy cuz cant afford it

[arctic grove]

just saying

[unkempt tartan]

dont get me wrong i loved BF3

[plucky apex]

Hope it does!

[north raven]

I'm waiting for BC3. It's gonna be epic.

[arctic grove]

Maybe

[thick robin]

What about Operation 925

[plucky apex]

Any Grand Bazaar, Seine Crossing and Damavand Peak (Rush) fans in here?

[jagged kettle]

my favorite bf was minecraft

[unkempt tartan]

is that the train?

[umbral falcon]

Grand Bazaar is my fav bf3 map for sure

[fleet hornet]

oh... I sold my csgo skins just to get the gold edition

[umbral falcon]

Idk why

[jagged kettle]

nice csgo skins are shit

[umbral falcon]

Kinda like how Pearl harbor my fav bf4 map. Just those little market cqb moments

[fleet hornet]

ye haha

[weary verge]

i have like 350$ worth of skins but i am keeping them to get steam deck

[plucky apex]

Bruh the combats in the alleyway were sick af! The B Flag of Grand bazaar is no doubt the best B flag to capture in the entire game. But I did not enjoy the other flags (A & C) of Bazaar

[jagged kettle]

csgo ruins peoples lives

and csgo empire

[arctic grove]

Bro what? that's some business

[weary verge]

wdym xd

[umbral falcon]

I agree with all ur bf3 maps lol, they are all so good

[thick robin]

Operation 925 is the office

[plucky apex]

Yeah Seine Crossing tho 😋

[vernal current]

You guys think battlefield 1 maps are coming?

[umbral falcon]

Sienne crossing is amazing

[jagged kettle]

whats the best BFV map for you guys?

[umbral falcon]

It's where I got my first crazy killstreak

[fleet hornet]

[umbral falcon]

Using the KH2002

[plucky apex]

Yooooo KH2002 was lit

[arctic grove]

Just buy and sell shit. I know it ain't ez but you know money

[plucky apex]

I got my first crazy killstreak in Seine as well! Using AK47u

[weary verge]

i get some $ from gambling site free codes n shit

[arctic grove]

and then buy bf 2042

[thick robin]

BF Hardline is coming in season 2 of 2042

[jagged kettle]

not so eazy, from that 350 he will get 250 in real money to buy shit

[arctic grove]

Nice

[thick robin]

Downtown and Bank Job

[umbral falcon]

Ik everyone hates this map, but to me Hamada. It's mainly out of bias for my love for the African front in ww2, deserts, and just the beauty of the map. Gameplay wise tho it's pretty aids, but I still love it

[weary verge]

i wont sell for irl mony i'll sell for steam money to buy steam deck

[craggy marten]

Proof

[jagged kettle]

creeper ohhh man

[arctic grove]

well then go buy cypto

[thick robin]

It’s a theory

[jagged kettle]

that some strange opinion but well received

[arctic grove]

opportunity

[jagged kettle]

oh ok

[umbral falcon]

I assumed I would get that 😅

[plucky apex]

Does anyone recall End Game and Aftermath maps? Those are some severely underrated maps in BF history imo

[umbral falcon]

What's your fav bf5 map @jagged kettle?

[thick robin]

What about Battlefield Hardline

[arctic grove]

I am still crying about the fact that there's no collector's edition around

[thick robin]

Downtown is pretty lit

[umbral falcon]

Minus the ultra fast ttk, I loved bfh

[arctic grove]

I would pay for it

[jagged kettle]

Provence

[cedar spire]

[umbral falcon]

My fav map for bfh was the map where there's this highway on the side of a cliff, with a lighthouse?

Not sure the name

Provence a pretty good map

I absolutely love tanking on the map

[arctic grove]

Well imma head out

and go sleep

[umbral falcon]

Cya mate

[jagged kettle]

i never played lofoten islands cant find a server

[arctic grove]

have to make some money tommorow

[jagged kettle]

with that map

[umbral falcon]

I forgot that map even existed ngl

[thick robin]

Pacific Highway?

[arctic grove]

bye have a great time

[umbral falcon]

Yes

So good

Also the border map between mexico

Bfh maps honestly were pretty sick

The giant dock yard where one of the freighters was a spawn point

[charred glacier]

yeah hardline didn’t deserved the hate it had back then

[thick robin]

Night Job

Even Growhouse

[jagged kettle]

im leaving bye guys

[umbral falcon]

Cya bob

Grow house has the most memories for me

[craggy marten]

Will the 2042 era weapons be brand new ones or just old ones but slightly futuristic?

[umbral falcon]

Basically older ones but revamped

I would assume considering the ones shown

[charred glacier]

police vs gangs. how awesome is that. i just missed a mode where the army goes in to take down both

[craggy marten]

Why does the army want to kill cops in Hardline?

[fleet hornet]

gn guys

[umbral falcon]

Gn roman

[tawdry violet]

Is 2042 open beta yet?

[craggy marten]

No

[grand kelp]

No

[tawdry violet]

Darn

[craggy marten]

In September

[thick robin]

We’re gonna be talking about the FAL

[charred glacier]

defending from all threats. foreign or domestic.

[delicate hollow]

me in portal

[grand kelp]

FAL do be the gun for the world

[umbral falcon]

Don't get me started

My best ally and worst enemy

[tawdry violet]

So question…what are all you playing until then?

If I may ask.

[craggy marten]

I don't get the love for FALs

[umbral falcon]

The FAL is just insanely op in bfh

[thick robin]

Introduced in the Criminal Activity expansion, the FAL, or the FN FAL in real life, is a (normally) Criminal exclusive Battle Rifle.

[craggy marten]

Oh- in Hardline

[umbral falcon]

I'm not a super big fan of the gun itself, kinda meh, but bfh is insane

[grand kelp]

I’m just playing GMOD or any FPS games that can help me wait

[charred glacier]

rules of engagement are a thing for soldiers operating. police dont really has that same rules of engagement.

[craggy marten]

Thought it was in BF in general

[charred glacier]

i thinkshooting at kids isnt cool

sorry...

now i shut up

[grand kelp]

Hah

[charred glacier]

cuz some of u guess feels like shooting at kids who dont point an rpg at u is cool

[thick robin]

And also the A 8S

[umbral falcon]

That thing was fun

I loved the mammoth

[thick robin]

Basically broken on console

[umbral falcon]

Syndicate gun was stupid op as well

But also fun

Ngl lots of things are op in bfh

[round garden]

@sterile bane bf1 runs and looks better on most hardware than bf4 so i dont think that will be an issue

[arctic grove]

Wait what, bf4 runs way better because its an older game

[round garden]

@arctic grove no bf4 runs worse

[arctic grove]

I hit 144fps+ on bf4, bf1 runs at 80-120

[charred glacier]

depends what he means by that

[round garden]

Yeah no

[charred glacier]

because the gaming mechanics are really running better

[round garden]

But a 1660ti does better in bf1 than bf4

[arctic grove]

hii

[charred glacier]

bf1 was the best bf built ever

[arctic grove]

I have a 1660 super and I don't get 200fps in bf1 like I can get in bf4

[charred glacier]

u could even climb walls

and grab on edges

[thick robin]

And we will spend a great deal of time talking about the Dual VZ.61

[round garden]

Bf4 is just very poorly optimized

[arctic grove]

anyone know if Battlefield 2042 will support adaptive triggers on PlayStation 5 ??

[arctic grove]

Why do you have milk?

[delicate hollow]

i like milk

you got a problem with that

[craggy marten]

Probably in some future update

[arctic grove]

Bf4 runs great because its an old game, bf4 runs way better and smoother than bf1 for most people simply because of the difference in years

I like milk too

[sterile bane]

Well, hopefully!

[arctic grove]

In my coffee

[round garden]

@craggy marten bruh the game isnt even out yet

[thick robin]

Imma type a message with every symbol

Ready? Go.

[round garden]

@arctic grove no it doesent and bfv probably runs even better than bf1

[charred glacier]

dakka da da da kka

[thick robin]

qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm,.QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM!?1234567890@#$&*()’”%-+=/;:€£¥_^[]{}§|~…<>

Done.

[arctic grove]

Are you ok?

[delicate hollow]

a mod is gonna slap you for that

[thick robin]

Yes I am thanks for asking

[arctic grove]

Get muted kido

[charred glacier]

GET READY FOR SOME MARINE COPY PASTA

seals copy pasta*

https://youtu.be/MpEbfzztALM

[arctic grove]

Can we just have some battlefield pasta instead?

[charred glacier]

NEEB NEEB

[thick robin]

Beep.

[fiery solar]

100 render resolution?

[charred glacier]

https://youtu.be/8ixYcyslmSI

[lunar venture]

i had a 1660 super and there is no way in hell you're getting 200 fps in BF4 unless you're on low settings

[thick robin]

9999 FPS be like:

[fiery solar]

i got 150 on ultra

[charred glacier]

wow

[fiery solar]

havent checked with 2070

[charred glacier]

can u still comprehend?

your body and eye and reflexes

🧠

[fiery solar]

i cant move my arms

[shy rapids]

That annoying cod players is annoying me again

[fiery solar]

ignore it and itll go away

[shy rapids]

Yeah... I've done that but some people are persistent...

[thick robin]

Your team lost

[shy rapids]

Who's team?

[thick robin]

The criminals

[shy rapids]

Good, they have lost...?

[thick robin]

Classic ______ Tom!

[umbral falcon]

?

[shy rapids]

English please?

[thick robin]

-Red hoodie guy

[shy rapids]

???

[thick robin]

Evil

[shy rapids]

Who?

[thick robin]

“Classic ____________ Tom!”
Tord Laarson

[shy rapids]

??

Literally don't know what you're saying man

[thick robin]

No one has watched Eddsworld

But me

Wow guys wow

[shy rapids]

Is that like Cartoon Network?

[thick robin]

YT series

[shy rapids]

Oh... ok

[delicate hollow]

squid would only know it if it was in MW

[potent matrix]

!when

[shy rapids]

No more dates?? Nnnooo

[potent matrix]

What about a release date ha

A countdown I mean

[lost spoke]

!where

[delicate hollow]

ask mozz

[potent matrix]

less than 90 days

[shy rapids]

Hhm... maybe we'll get more news on gamescon?

[shy rapids]

80 days of torture...

[potent matrix]

Maybe beta release

[potent matrix]

[shy rapids]

60 days of torture?

[potent matrix]

Still don't have the money to get the game though

[delicate hollow]

get job

buy stocks

buy dice

[scenic lantern]

Its only 80$ tho

[bitter galleon]

60

[scenic lantern]

Better

[potent matrix]

Noice

[potent matrix]

Ez money right ?

[scenic lantern]

Yes?

[potent matrix]

[bitter galleon]

literally pocket money

[shy rapids]

That's STILL A LOT

[shy rapids]

No, rich mans money

[scenic lantern]

Yeah but there are kids here

[delicate hollow]

squid is a child

so

[scenic lantern]

Yeah its normal

[delicate hollow]

thats like a million to a kid

[scenic lantern]

Indeed

[potent matrix]

It ain't normal in Egypt

[somber hinge]

meme'

[potent matrix]

Equals like 900 egp

Which is bruh

[somber hinge]

what the monke doin

[potent matrix]

I can be a game Critique and get the game for free

[somber hinge]

games aren't really expensive anyway

[potent matrix]

They're in my country

[somber hinge]

rip

[delicate hollow]

if you think 80 bucks is alot, you have never payed rent

[bitter galleon]

true

[shy rapids]

Yes they are

[potent matrix]

Average rents here cost like 150$ per month

[shy rapids]

Do you know what I can do with $100??

I can buy 1 MW19, and some bundles and skins

[delicate hollow]

and of course squid goes back to MW

[potent matrix]

Maybe buy BF2042 ultimate edition

[shy rapids]

Sadly that's $120

[delicate hollow]

110

[shy rapids]

But deluxe of MW is like what, $100?

[delicate hollow]

yeah but MW is shit

[potent matrix]

Well this is Battlefield am I right

[shy rapids]

$120 is A LOT for a game

Consoles really are greedy now huh

[potent matrix]

Battlefield portal is insane

[potent matrix]

True

[bitter galleon]

you dont need to buy the most expensive version

its just cosmetics anyway

[shy rapids]

Yes I know, which is why I just got gold for $100

[potent matrix]

Gold for 90$ on pc

[delicate hollow]

if you dont like the price why did you get it

[arctic grove]

80 if you have ea play

[potent matrix]

Noice tuna

[arctic grove]

Thanks? Looks at Camera

[potent matrix]

xDDDDDD

Battlefield portal is so enough for me tbh

The game would be Eternal

Take ma money

[remote otter]

cant wait to catapult ww2 era jeeps into the latest bleeding edge fighter jets

[delicate hollow]

im glad that they still have c4 launching

[potent matrix]

Playing WW2 only would be more authentic than BF5 imo

[shy rapids]

Yeah that's lame, that's why I don't understand how is it $108 for ultimate, but $120? That's literally more then 10 dollars added

[shy rapids]

I can't want to be flying the WW2 airplanes

[remote otter]

and getting dumpstered by heat seeking missiles going mach 2?

[potent matrix]

Last gen prices applies on PC I guess

[delicate hollow]

they understand that pc is supreme

[arctic grove]

No gamecube is supreme

[remote otter]

no sega genesis is supreme

[delicate hollow]

i will accept your reply

[solar moss]

Thr best games console is the Atari 2600

[wheat marsh]

Is the price on pc and ps5/xbox series x different?

[remote otter]

smh you ever played pong in 1950?

peak gameplay

[stuck ridge]

Pong introduced violence to the world

[shy rapids]

Or... they just want to be greedy now but PC is smart enough to not allow it

[arctic grove]

No, its because its contains a ps5 and ps4 copy, so technically you are getting two games on console

Cross-gen

[potent matrix]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[shy rapids]

And reason for PS5 only being $70?

[arctic grove]

Greed

[shy rapids]

Yes, and why $100? Why not just $80 or $70 for next gen? CW didn't charge $100, and $120 really?

[delicate hollow]

stop comparing cod games to bf

[shy rapids]

Mmhhmm yes... now all we need is an M50 gas mask please DICE

[delicate hollow]

BF is massive

[shy rapids]

Imagine M50 gas masks in the game?

[potent matrix]

[shy rapids]

Now... I do hope that we can at least pick our own soldier outfits for Portals?

And how has no one yet asked about if Portal guns will be leveled up or if attachments can be added for their concerns?

[sullen cairn]

prob cause progression is shared

[delicate hollow]

because its been confirmed that exp is shared

[shy rapids]

Oh yes of course, but guns can't be split between the main game or Hazard zone

[sullen cairn]

oh hazard zone?

[shy rapids]

Like BF3 guns won't be used on Hazard zone or the main game

[sullen cairn]

i wouild assume you choose your load out in hazard zone

if not

whats the point

[delicate hollow]

i swear squid has no idea what hes talking about half the time

[shy rapids]

So that's why I wonder if the guns can be leveled up BF3 guns and 1942 guns, add attachments to BF3 guns and etc

[delicate hollow]

dude just types without using a brain

[rustic vine]

Hey guys and gals i have a question. So i pre ordered 2042 deluxe edition on my ps5 but i also want to buy it on my pc do i need to also order the gold or higher version on pc to be able to play early on there or since i bought the expensive version on ps5 will the deluxe part transfer to pc when i link the accounts?

[shy rapids]

Oh well not that but yeah

[shy rapids]

Yes

[sullen cairn]

cant transfer

[shy rapids]

The deluxe part won't transfer over

[delicate hollow]

dont listen to squid

[sullen cairn]

gotta re purchase

[shy rapids]

But you have to purchase another gold

Cheaper on PC though so

[sullen cairn]

will the bf3 bf 2 and 1942 guns have attachments that you have to earn? idrk

[shy rapids]

PS5 and Xseries X really is selling this year

[sullen cairn]

i would assume you get all the attachments to said guns for free

idk tho

[shy rapids]

Well 1942 guns never really had attachments, but it would be cool to level up all guns so I can spend more time in the game

But BF3 and BC2 did I think?

[sullen cairn]

it would be pretty repetitive to grind out all the guns

[shy rapids]

Did BC2 guns have attachments?

[shy rapids]

Yeah, but it would give a reason to use all the guns or so

[sullen cairn]

they're gonna have attatchments

if they're remastering them

[shy rapids]

So DICE doesn't just have all these guns and no one uses them

[shy rapids]

Well I hope that they do have a lot of attachments in Portal and the main game itself

Love the gunsmith system that MW and EFT have

Now if BF 2042 can do it just like that... would be fantastic

[delicate hollow]

MW again

that might be a record for you

4 times in 30 minutes

[sullen cairn]

if you can change your attachments mid game they gotta have a gunsmith system

now idrk how that would play out

[burnt swan]

i thought it was ingame

[shy rapids]

Well BF4 didn't have that, and the plus system only has 4 types of attachments you can add like what BF4 did

[grand kelp]

Pre-set attachments

[burnt swan]

u dont even need to pause your game to change attachments

[shy rapids]

Yes, but that system doesn't have all the customization a gun can have

[burnt swan]

wouldnt that be a bit broken

[shy rapids]

Like say that you want to change a barrel, stock, grip, etc

[burnt swan]

being able to have a wide variety of attachments to change

[shy rapids]

No?...

[shy rapids]

That would be good

[burnt swan]

for call of duty its different

[grand kelp]

It’s more convenient and situational

[shy rapids]

Oh I see...

[shy rapids]

Not really

[burnt swan]

you die and get whatever you chose

cant change loadout mid life

[shy rapids]

But you can still make one while ingame

[stuck ridge]

Am i the only one that uses weapons based on how good they look?

[shy rapids]

No definitely not

[grand kelp]

Nah, I do too

Tacticool takes over

[shy rapids]

That's what I love about MW

[burnt swan]

theyre probably going to allow the player to select some attachments to take with them when they spawn in

[shy rapids]

I don't care about how good the gun is

But how good it looks is what makes me enjoy it

[grand kelp]

I just run all of my weapons with suppressor

If they looks good

[shy rapids]

Suppressors make guns look too good

[sullen cairn]

suppressors need to be made realistic in games

[shy rapids]

I do like compensators and muzzles

[grand kelp]

Like Kriss Vector with the Osprey suppressor

[shy rapids]

How so?

[burnt swan]

cod mw 2019 set standards for gun customization and tarkov took it to a whole another level

[shy rapids]

Yes, why shouldn't BF 2042?

[burnt swan]

hopefully we see something similar in 2042

[sullen cairn]

suppressors make bullets go further

[shy rapids]

If BF 2042 customization is like BF4, would cry

[sullen cairn]

because the barrel is longer

[delicate hollow]

this is true

[burnt swan]

shit even bf4 customization is better than bfv

[shy rapids]

Yeah, but then wouldn't it just become OP? I hope SMGs have awesome range as well

[shy rapids]

It is, but BF5 did have better shooting

[charred glacier]

yes bf4 is the best

[burnt swan]

and better movement

[sullen cairn]

OP? maybe, it doesnt need to be buffed, just not lower damage or range

[burnt swan]

the gameplay we saw so far

gunplay looks like bfv

ngl

[stuck ridge]

Good

[shy rapids]

Reminds me of cod

[charred glacier]

bf4 customizations are really impressive

[shy rapids]

Eh not really

[burnt swan]

yeah i dont mind fast time to kill in battlefield games @shy rapids

[shy rapids]

EFT and MW19 is impressive

[sullen cairn]

i would rather have a suppressor that only suppresses and not hinder my gun's ability

[shy rapids]

Well not that, it's just that I can't stand bullet spread which this game doesnt seem to have any

[grand kelp]

EFT is more impressive

[hollow geyser]

I want to pre order battle field 2042 which edition should I Get?

[sullen cairn]

if u like cosmetics, gold, if not base

[shy rapids]

Imagine if BF 2042 outranks MW19 AND EFT?

[stuck ridge]

MW19 and titanfall have nice looking weapons AND reload animations that blast my nuts off

[burnt swan]

the one with early beta access

[grand kelp]

Any, but if you value cosmetics, Gold or Ultimate

[burnt swan]

otherwise no point in getting regular pre order

[grand kelp]

And beta access

[shy rapids]

Would be the biggest game changer in the world

[hollow geyser]

Alr thx

[shy rapids]

I hope DICE can continue to surprise me

[sullen cairn]

base gang gang

[grand kelp]

EFT is more for that hardcore audience

[shy rapids]

They really surprised me with Portals

[burnt swan]

i get it the trailers look nice but they still havent shown any live gameplay

of people playing

[shy rapids]

I feel like they can do a spectacular job with the gunsmith I hope

[burnt swan]

the game

[grand kelp]

Hopefully

[sullen cairn]

can't wait for hardcore portal servers

[burnt swan]

just waiting on a gameplay video

[shy rapids]

Yeah I know, just scripted

[burnt swan]

atleast 10 min long

not getting finessed by trailers again

[shy rapids]

I'm hoping that people will make a server for every type of thing we like

[sullen cairn]

its gonna be done lol

with free server hosting

ofc

[shy rapids]

I want to see normal BF3, 1942, BC2 matches, and then a bunch of other stuff

[burnt swan]

when are they revealing the other redacted gamemode

[sullen cairn]

if not

ill make it

[burnt swan]

they showed portal

[shy rapids]

Hardline gets added into Portals, would be epic

[burnt swan]

now one more gamemode

[sullen cairn]

redactfrags

[grand kelp]

Hazard Zone

[shy rapids]

Maybe August 25th

[burnt swan]

if its like tarkov im glad

casual version of tarkov

[shy rapids]

Same

[sullen cairn]

if it's is a gamemode that makes you feel like actual spec ops

gonna play it

[shy rapids]

So theres no SBMM in BF 2043, right?

[sullen cairn]

like no tommorrow

[burnt swan]

tarkov is a game for masochistic dudes

[shy rapids]

I just hope

[patent hare]

I wonder if portal will be available at beta

[burnt swan]

idk how dudes play it for hours

[shy rapids]

That the gamemode somewhat caters to BR players

[burnt swan]

half of the gunfights are so one sided

[craggy marten]

No

[shy rapids]

Because if BF can attract battle royale players, they will steal Warzone and be swimming in cash

[burnt swan]

if there is a server browser

[craggy marten]

BF doesn't have SBMM

[burnt swan]

which means no sbmm

[shy rapids]

Good...

[burnt swan]

cod mw 2019 shipment flashbacks

[sullen cairn]

BF already tried warzone

BR*

[burnt swan]

those lobbies are cancer

[craggy marten]

But my experience BF1 is the dedinition of every COD player's complaints with SBMM

[sullen cairn]

failed miserably

[craggy marten]

Shit teams, tryhard enemies

[grand kelp]

3 months left before game releases

[shy rapids]

No... they just did it st the wrong time or so

[sullen cairn]

Activision is fucked with Cali suing them

[burnt swan]

if firestorm was free

[grand kelp]

And close to Halloween too

[shy rapids]

They should try again because they did it with a bad game

[burnt swan]

it would be popular

[shy rapids]

Thx for remaining me

[burnt swan]

prob the best looking br out there

in terms of graphics

[shy rapids]

Imagine we get a CHRISTMAS and HALLOWEEN type season??

[burnt swan]

the looting system is ass

though

[shy rapids]

DUDE... that would be awesome

[sullen cairn]

4th of july season 🥳

[round garden]

I really hope the do not put a br gamemode into bf 2042, because then it takes away new content away from the main game

[shy rapids]

Warzone Halloween event in 2020 was awesome, if BF can do something like that, I would be glad

[shy rapids]

Fireworks for RPGS

[burnt swan]

maybe some dude in portal will set up a br mode

[shy rapids]

We can't but....

[round garden]

@burnt swan its not possible

[severe hill]

jets as raindeers shooting present bombs at you lol

[shy rapids]

Just do free for all 128 players, one life lol

[sullen cairn]

jackfrags came out with a new vid about BR and more

[burnt swan]

if its like halo custom browser then maybe

[shy rapids]

That's actually funny

[sullen cairn]

havent watched all of it

[grand kelp]

I mean, DICE are willingly to monitor what the player needs

[round garden]

I need more 2042 content

[burnt swan]

dice might have pulled it off this year

[round garden]

Post launch

[burnt swan]

big W compared to bfv

[sullen cairn]

more info from jack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH0YwgK_7pc&t=165s

[shy rapids]

You know what... maybe this will be the game to actually make games great again...

[grand kelp]

Remember that they extended support for BF4 after CTE or something

[shy rapids]

I mean last year games weren't that awesome

[grand kelp]

Hopefully we’ll see extended support for 2042 as well

[burnt swan]

shit i dont wanna get my hopes up too high

[shy rapids]

Except Among Us and Fall Guys

[burnt swan]

2020 games were so ass

[lost snow]

I want to see real portals, where you can teleport around the map

[shy rapids]

Same, Cyberpunk failed us all

[burnt swan]

and cold war

whatever that game was

[sullen cairn]

cold war was ass

[shy rapids]

Why are you booing me, I'm right

[sullen cairn]

downgraded MW19

[tender elk]

I hope there will be no SBMM

[grand kelp]

Cold War, yeah

[shy rapids]

Exactly

[grand kelp]

There is none

[tender elk]

Thank goodness

[burnt swan]

everyone spent 2020 playing old games lmao

[shy rapids]

We really did

Literally no good games in 2020

[burnt swan]

i was excited asf for halo

but delay

[shy rapids]

2021... only thing I see is BF 2042

The 2nd game I'm getting this year, 1st was BF4

[shy rapids]

Until?

[burnt swan]

this year

winter

supposed to come out last year

but the game looked shit

[sullen cairn]

im just playing BF 4, 1, and 5 while i wait for 2042

[shy rapids]

Oh I see

[burnt swan]

streamers are trying to get 343 to create a br mode for halo smh

fuck those ttv dudes

[shy rapids]

I've been playing little bit of GTA 5, Fall Guys, Minecraft, Cities Skylines, BF4, MW19, etc.

[shy rapids]

Oh yeah, but why?

[lost snow]

2042 will be just be like playing 1, 4, and 5...

[shy rapids]

I hope... BF 2042 gets more players then both MW19 and CW

[radiant prism]

Its unlikely tbh

[shy rapids]

1, 4, 5, 1942, BF3, etc...

[shy rapids]

But why??

[radiant prism]

It'll give Activision a kick in the teeth, but a good majority of CoD players will probably try it, dislike it, and go find something else.

If anything is gonna draw players away from MW/CW/Vanguard, its gonna be SM2

[burnt swan]

br games are easy viewers

[sullen cairn]

if hazard zone is free

it might screw with cod

[burnt swan]

fr bro

i think i watched their gameplay

[shy rapids]

I mean... I've been playing COD and still like BF but I know I don't speak for all players, but maybe they will be interested in it. A lot of MW players I know do like BF 2042 and are getting it.

[burnt swan]

trailer like 3 times

[molten tartan]

Do we know the recommended pc specs yet?

[grand kelp]

Alternative COD Online, basically

[grand kelp]

Nope, we don’t

[shy rapids]

No lol

[burnt swan]

the better version

[shy rapids]

Probably until beta

[burnt swan]

cod online was only for china

[molten tartan]

You think a 1070 Ti will make it?

[shy rapids]

We play as the killstreaks

[burnt swan]

we didnt get access to it

[grand kelp]

Can it play BFV?

[radiant prism]

They like the idea of 2042, no one really has any solid opinion on how the game actually is

[shy rapids]

SM2?

[radiant prism]

You haven't heard of it?

[grand kelp]

Better version of COD Online

[molten tartan]

Yeah

[burnt swan]

BFV and 2042 are gonna have similar specs

both are on the same engine

[grand kelp]

Then it should be fine for 2042

[empty hill]

what going on here

[sullen cairn]

thought they updated frostbite

[shy rapids]

No lol

[burnt swan]

still similar to bfv

[lost snow]

The 1942 and 1 players will get outscoped/outranged/outflown and rage quit

[shy rapids]

Eh... doesn't look like it is or will be better then BF

[burnt swan]

hopefully 3d spotting returns

[radiant prism]

https://sm2.gg/ Give it a peek @shy rapids

[burnt swan]

idk why bfv removed 3d spotting

[molten tartan]

I guess yea, last gen will have it soo

[burnt swan]

made everyone blend in with their surroundings

[radiant prism]

Honestly, removal of 3D spotting works to BFV's benefits

[sullen cairn]

it was so annoying

[burnt swan]

i like being able to press q

to spot ppl

you know?

[sullen cairn]

spamming q

[radiant prism]

Actually being able to hide is so nice, pings are a more expansive system anyways

Apex's ping system is REALLY nice

[sullen cairn]

i hope 42 wont have 5's resupply system

[lost snow]

they'll play those versions for a little bit, then everyone will just go with the latest tech

[radiant prism]

As much as I sorta liked attrition in V, I can live with it going away for 2042

Probably for the best overall

[lost snow]

Thinking only snipers should be able to spot

[radiant prism]

Recon's primary purpose is to spot, so that'd make sense

[sullen cairn]

yeah

but like nobody plays

recon

[shy rapids]

It looks cool and all but... you're sure this will be gaining a lot of cod players attention as much as BF 2042 has? It's basically you know, just MW2 online remastered?

[burnt swan]

?

[grand kelp]

In the FAQ, when they asked about the concern of everyone running with RPG, it said that you’ll have to rely on teammate with healing or ammo. So I’m sure that there will be people with medkit or ammo pack

[shy rapids]

I'm going to give everyone free ammo

[sullen cairn]

[shy rapids]

But theres no picking up other ammo?

[quick kraken]

It won't get any percentage of the console market and a small segment of the hardcore playerbase

[radiant prism]

It's gonna give long-time CoD fans a much more familiar experience..not to mention that it includes maps, weapons, etc. from just about every fairly recent CoD. Have you looked at the weapons list?

[lost snow]

this is coming from a guy who has 1,000 tank kills with a MAV 😶

[quick kraken]

It will make a very negligible difference

[burnt swan]

Only for pc though

Most of these cod players play on console

[quick kraken]

most people in general play on console

[arctic grove]

And the time period is a lot farther then mw2

Just saying

[grand kelp]

Well, we saw that during the new gameplay, it dropped what looks like an ammo pouch when they killed the enemy during the Quality vs Quantity

We don’t see that during the VIP Fiesta

So, I’m assuming you can disable or enable that

[radiant prism]

Yeah, its got stuff from as early as BO1 and as late as BO4

[burnt swan]

and stuff from advanced warfare

[shy rapids]

Yes, but so they don't have CW and MW19 guns right now because they're basically from older CODs?

[grand kelp]

And Hybrid Guns from COD Online

[burnt swan]

mw2019 engine is different

[arctic grove]

No the guns are just more advanced

nobody cares about co

cod

[grand kelp]

Gotta love that Hybrid gun

[burnt swan]

the older cods basically used the same engine for years

[charred glacier]

https://youtu.be/YmQI5_c9lV4

[radiant prism]

Not at launch at least, plus they haven't given a full weapons list. Not to mention that this is using an updated version of the MW2 engine

[arctic grove]

Also im gonna just get the ammo pack instead of rpg so I don’t run out of asr ammo lmao

Or med pack idk

[burnt swan]

ammo pack and medic pack

run both

[young isle]

Xd

[burnt swan]

if thats possible

[arctic grove]

Nah U have to choose rpg medic bag or ammo bag

cod is trash

[grand kelp]

That’ll be Jack of all Trades

[burnt swan]

fr unstoppable infantry player

[arctic grove]

Childeren Online Daycare

[dire furnace]

are there ammo packs on BF2042?

because I've heard there is no such thing on the game

[grand kelp]

In the FAQ, when they asked about the concern of everyone running with RPG, it said that you’ll have to rely on teammate with healing or ammo. So I’m sure that there will be people with medkit or ammo pack

[arctic grove]

In bf2042 the classes I’m guessing is spealist specialist gadget, specialist perk any primary or secondary gun and any grenade plus any support gadget like ammo or health or rpg

[dire furnace]

@lost musk u thicc?

[arctic grove]

Idk if it’s like this tho besides the freedom of choosing any weapon

COD = 🗑️

[burnt swan]

yes we get it

[arctic grove]

COD bad

We know @arctic grove we kno

Bruh A final stand update in bf 2042 will def have remote control drone

[lost musk]

No thank you

[dire furnace]

I'll be honest

If you ain't thicc, 🍑 shouldn't be used

[shy rapids]

Well yes I see [CLASSIFIED], but a lot of gamers nowadays like faster movement and such, which I think that BF 2042 will succeed more in this

[arctic grove]

Sounding kinda sus @arctic grove

[shy rapids]

You're a bit sus

[arctic grove]

Portal just needs to have a level creator and its Roblox

Oh nvm shit I took that wrong my bad m8

[dire furnace]

you bussy sucka

[indigo hazel]

The dead enemies did drop ammo bags in the portal gameplay

[shy rapids]

What?

[shy rapids]

Yes of course but guns?

[arctic grove]

mw is the same game like any other cod

same old setting

etc

[indigo hazel]

It does feel nice to have a battlefield again, it’s felt so long since we've got something new in recent years

[arctic grove]

bro that moment when the EA play shifted to Battlefield and that black guy was so cringe

ww1 was the last thing to do lol ikr

[shy rapids]

They should've done China still

[indigo hazel]

So dumb of EA to abandon BF2 when it was most in popularity.

[shy rapids]

Can't believe they went against Russia like c'mon...

[arctic grove]

First war in human history was WW1

[shy rapids]

Should've put US vs China... and Russia

[shy rapids]

No lol

[arctic grove]

to DICE

[shy rapids]

Well who wants to use 1800s tech?...

[burnt swan]

why would games go any further back

shits gonna be so boring

[indigo hazel]

Well a battlefield civil war game wouldn’t be fun lol

[arctic grove]

no WW1 was the first war

[shy rapids]

Going to be using rock and sticks

[arctic grove]

Hello

[shy rapids]

Yeah, but they never said that?

[arctic grove]

thats why dice said the dawn of war or shit

[warm plaza]

...

[indigo hazel]

Can’t wait to kill the Indians in battlefield amerca's expansion

[warm plaza]

im gonna give an example any idiot would know comes before WW1

The war of 1812

[arctic grove]

where planes

[arctic grove]

true

[warm plaza]

planes arent in every war

[burnt swan]

with proximity voice chat it would be @arctic grove

also it would be racist asf

[arctic grove]

guns didn't exist before 1700

[arctic grove]

Oh wait, I thought he said it would be fun, a civil war game would pretty fun

[burnt swan]

not really

no one is trying to spend 5 min trying to reload their musket

[craggy marten]

Roman Wars DLC pack

[arctic grove]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind

[burnt swan]

youre on crack

[arctic grove]

martini henry but worse

[burnt swan]

martinis reload time isnt even that bad

[arctic grove]

fun fact that gun was from 1800

or used

[craggy marten]

What if DICE adds new things to Portals that are brand new to Portals, and by that I mean like mode exclusive weapons and stuff

Like a laser gun

[burnt swan]

theyll probably add more stuff from other bf games as time goes on

[arctic grove]

battlefield pirate 1942

[craggy marten]

Or does 2142 have lasers?

[craggy marten]

They will

No way they wouldn't

[burnt swan]

bf4

has a shit ton of content

to recycle

[arctic grove]

imagine community made bf games

[craggy marten]

Year two of the game

Betting next year is gonna be 1942 centered

[burnt swan]

updated version of locker

cant wait

[craggy marten]

Because its the 10th year anniversary of BF1942? Right?

[burnt swan]

spent most of my bf4 time playing 24/7 locker

[arctic grove]

20

bro your old

[craggy marten]

20th?!

[arctic grove]

1942 came out in 2002

2022

[brazen grove]

2122

[burnt swan]

you really think a 2 year old was playing 1942

[arctic grove]

DICE was around since 1992

[arctic grove]

Someone with a brain

24/7 locker is the best thing about battlefield

cod players

[burnt swan]

idk i just like infantry stuff

[bronze scroll]

I want 2142

[burnt swan]

gamemodes like rush

my favorite

[bronze scroll]

And battlefield 1

[arctic grove]

you have cod dna

[bronze scroll]

Ewww

[delicate hollow]

im sure you can make rush with the scratch code

[arctic grove]

I played cod before battlefield lmao

[bronze scroll]

Cod fanboy alert

Cod fanboy alert

Cod fanboy alert

[arctic grove]

Cod rn is terrible so locker 24/7 is life

[acoustic fjord]

yup

[burnt swan]

my fault i dont like camping like a fucking degenerate

[arctic grove]

I haven't touched cod since bo4 lol

bro people who like infantry focused maps more have more COD dna than BF

Ever since then hated it

[burnt swan]

bfv promoted camping to a whole another level

mmg's hiding in bushes

[acoustic fjord]

cod this year will be so bad

lol

[bronze scroll]

In a house, camping is a joke

[arctic grove]

Ik

[bronze scroll]

Good you can blow the house up

[arctic grove]

Like please remaster bo2 I'll surrender my life

[craggy marten]

No

[burnt swan]

these ppl wont understand the infantry only playstyle

[craggy marten]

We dont want money lmao

[burnt swan]

they just main conquest

[bronze scroll]

2142

Battlefield 1

I want that in portal next

[craggy marten]

Imagine Pigeon vs mechs

From 2142

[vernal saffron]

Can't wait for BF2 maps in Portal

[arctic grove]

Yeah, i don't like vehicles too much anyway

[burnt swan]

ik in 2042 im gonna play the shit out of breakthrough

loved breakthrough in bfv

only good gamemode

[craggy marten]

I forgot how breakthrough worked

[burnt swan]

its a better version of rush

[craggy marten]

Wansnt it that mode where if one team wins one side of the war they go another section of another map?

[arctic grove]

Btw just saying locker 24/7 players tend to be better then the idiots that camp all game

[delicate hollow]

take 2 sites move up

[craggy marten]

Like in BF1?

[civic mirage]

[bronze scroll]

It almost reminded me of operations a bot

Bit

[arctic grove]

Operations in bf1 is amazing

[craggy marten]

Or is that operation?

[burnt swan]

not in bfv

operations in bfv is way too long

[arctic grove]

Spam amiens and ball room blitz 24/7 xd

[burnt swan]

how did dice fuck up metro in bfv so badly

[delicate hollow]

i liked v metro

[burnt swan]

didnt feel the same though

[craggy marten]

Metro was in BF5?

[burnt swan]

the map layout was so different

[craggy marten]

Dont remember it

[burnt swan]

metro with more camping spots

[craggy marten]

What was it called

Metro in BF5 I mean

[burnt swan]

Operation metro I think

[craggy marten]

...

[burnt swan]

Operation underground*

My bad bro

[craggy marten]

Literally same name- bruh

[mortal raft]

It's an U-Bahn Station in Berlin

[craggy marten]

Oh wait I played that map

Only died once in the entire match

[burnt swan]

Plays nothing like metro right?

[craggy marten]

The team revved me constantly

[arctic grove]

Wait so I was stupid but is operation underground a remaster map in bf5

[burnt swan]

It’s legit a whole different map

[craggy marten]

1 death 20 or 15 kills

[mortal raft]

I'm not a Metro fan, but Underground feels kinda worse

[burnt swan]

Mostly played metro rush in bf3 and 4

[arctic grove]

Cuz I was looking at metro and underground the have the same layout

Kinda

[burnt swan]

I know how the map looks and how it’s supposed to play

Operation underground does not feel like classic metro

[arctic grove]

I didn’t play metro on bf3

I wanted to tho

[tawny remnant]

battlefield Vietnam better then 1942

[burnt swan]

Noshiar canals tdm on bf3

[granite lotus]

bf3 ceased to work for me on xbone:(

[arctic grove]

Plus wasn’t the story last part in a subway in bf3

[burnt swan]

Way too fun

[craggy marten]

I wonder if when the BF4 content comes to Portal the first thing DICE will do is port over map variants already present in Portals

Like Caspian Border

[burnt swan]

I just want a better version of locker

With more routes to push

[craggy marten]

It does?

[arctic grove]

And metro in bf5 is still the best map in that game lmfaooo

[burnt swan]

That c flag on locker is pain

If your teams get it first

You win

[arctic grove]

I want some pacific island map in the bf 2042 mp not a remaster

[burnt swan]

The game

[arctic grove]

Nah it's not when you can flank mountain side, if not then it can be a pain

[radiant prism]

Weird way to spell Arras

[mortal raft]

Just no.
It's my least favorite. Even less than that massive desert

[burnt swan]

The pacific storm maps are better

[mortal raft]

The Pacific Maps were good

[burnt swan]

Especially on breakthrough

[arctic grove]

I loved that desert map

[mortal raft]

Provence is neat as well

[arctic grove]

But it srsly need more Jeep’s

[radiant prism]

Gotta love the Provence rework yeah

[arctic grove]

I wanna play that new breakaway map

I just like the map that works the best for kills

And flanking

I never played a artic map in bf and with bf 2042 new biggest map breakaway I’m gonna love it

[tawny remnant]

I wanna see more weapon reload Easter-egg in new bf

[arctic grove]

nah Provence in daylight looked better

[burnt swan]

Honestly they could bring content from hardline into 2042

[arctic grove]

Can u akimbo in bf?

[burnt swan]

If they really want

[radiant prism]

In terms of map design though

[arctic grove]

RIP daylight Provence

F

[radiant prism]

Its plays well as a sort of mini-Panzerstorm I guess

Its got a cool vibe IMO

But yeah rip daytime Provence

[arctic grove]

looked more cozy

I wanna dual weild desert eagles

[tawny remnant]

is that u wish for? go play COD 2019 then my guy

[delicate hollow]

yeah bf has enough dignity to not allow such things

[errant citrus]

is the ultimate and gold edition only digital?

[idle cypress]

[arctic grove]

Indeed

[royal trail]

[idle cypress]

Yes

[tawny remnant]

I hope the snipes in this game is one shot not two

[arctic grove]

Srsly tho has battlefield never akimbo im not mad I’m just surprised if they haven’t

[idle cypress]

Its digital because you get a last gen copy and a current gen copy

[errant citrus]

then cancel my reservation in physical...

[idle cypress]

Maybe it is who knows. Games not out yet haha

[arctic grove]

Cod 2019 sucksssss

[idle cypress]

Maybe theyll have a disk case with 2 disks in it

[tawny remnant]

best cod ever

[tight mauve]

Does anyone know where to get this battlefield dp.?

[idle cypress]

Like back in the old days where you would have to use disk two for installing the game

[errant citrus]

I only play ps5.
...

[arctic grove]

Ummmm you on crack?

I've never heard anyone say that before just making sure

[radiant talon]

Modern Warfare is great, most people seem to agree with that, especially when compared to CW

[upper viper]

Skyrim

I am a boomer

[flint jay]

MW2019 is a good game, why do people keep saying it's bad

[idle cypress]

If you buy gold or ultimate digitally you get a ps4 copy.

[upper viper]

SBMM

[arctic grove]

Every time I play mw 2019 I keep getting killed by ppl sitting in a corner eating smores

[tawny remnant]

agreed

[flint jay]

What's bad about it?

[arctic grove]

Yep lmao hate sbmm

[bronze scroll]

I like the sector thing from 2042

[stuck ridge]

Whats sbmm

[flint jay]

skill based match making

[arctic grove]

sbmm makes me wanna puke lol

[stuck ridge]

Ah

[errant citrus]

I would feel very silly I only have ps5

[glad ether]

Cod 2019 is awesome

[arctic grove]

Hey tbh I didn’t care abt sbmm it just got boring for some reason idky

[upper viper]

Protects bad players . Fucks good players

[glad ether]

one of the best recent cods

Especially ghost coming back🌝

[tawny remnant]

just imagine getting the COD MW 3 remastered

[glad ether]

My fav cod

[flint jay]

I mean I was sorta a bad player I don't remember it protecting me I still got rekt by people

[upper viper]

Then your extra bad

😂

[flint jay]

I ain't that bad

[glad ether]

I like your pfp

[idle cypress]

Haha. You get the ps4 copy along with a bunch of ingame items and skins. Read the descriptions of the versions. Im still looking for a 5 so i ended up buying the ultimate version.

[glad ether]

Can you send it to me lol @upper viper

[upper viper]

It's from the portal trailer lol

[glad ether]

Ik

[craggy marten]

Barely encounter campers

[arctic grove]

Nah it's not and I played it a lot lmao

[craggy marten]

Because I kill them easily

[arctic grove]

@craggy marten lucky