battlefield-2042

[tribal wyvern]

or mw 2019's

one of the two

[lofty shore]

U CAN control spread in bf4

[tribal wyvern]

judging from the trailer it looks like both

[slim quiver]

if the optimization is terrible it might not

[lofty shore]

which makes gunplay more skilled

[spark acorn]

But everything that comes out of those guns are incredibly accurate compared to BF guns.

[tribal wyvern]

no you cannot, that's controlling recoil

[next onyx]

Rather have bf5 cause guns actually feel fair

[tribal wyvern]

you cannot control spread

[arctic grove]

Bfv has the best gun play ever

[lofty shore]

if u spray

the spread gets worse

[next onyx]

You can do a degree but it's a bit more unpredictable

[arctic grove]

One of the few games that makes sniping fun

[spark acorn]

yeah they feel and look nicec

[lofty shore]

if u shoot 3-5 bullets at a time

[tribal wyvern]

yeah you know when someone gets a fuckin full auto gun and they find an entire squad they spread

[lofty shore]

it's good

[tribal wyvern]

no one has the time to tap fire

[spark acorn]

agreed

[tribal wyvern]

they'd be dead by then

[next onyx]

I wouldn't have such beef with spread if enemy players through suppression screwed you over.

[shy rapids]

No it doesn't LOL

[jolly goblet]

I hope the netcode on console finally get 60hz

[arctic grove]

Gunplay will be nothing like V or MW it will be completely overhauled and different for the new game, just like BF has always done

[tribal wyvern]

have you seen the gameplay trailer?

whenever they shoot it looks like mw 2019

recoil is nice

[arctic grove]

And also they didnt have the mg telescopic

[tribal wyvern]

bullets go where you're aiming

idk just seems like mw 2019 to me

and that isn't bad by any means

[jolly goblet]

It is bfv

[arctic grove]

bfv was never about the guns tho. get one that shoots fast and it doesnt matter

[shy rapids]

You have not been listening closely to the gun sounds then, because I can differentiate between which gun is which based on sounds, so that is a lie

[lofty shore]

a lot of good players have time to tap fire

[arctic grove]

yeah when they shoot for 0.2 milliseconds with a full auto 900 rpm smg

can totally tell from that

[jolly goblet]

That recoil model, its bfv

[lofty shore]

and at a close range spread is irrelevant

[tribal wyvern]

there's another part in the trailer where they shoot

[slim quiver]

actually i think they said theyre building off of BFV

[tribal wyvern]

with another gun

[next onyx]

Sorta true, The slower firing guns though are more lasery

Look at the BREN

[arctic grove]

Type 2a gets nasty killstreaks though

[arctic grove]

they said that for movement

[next onyx]

Yeah ok 514 RPM, But that gun BEAMS people with a 3x scope

[jolly goblet]

Zk 528rpm

[median cloak]

Thank god it’s a break from rust recoil, I never get used to that shit

[shy rapids]

Good, as long as it isn't BF3 or 4

[slim quiver]

I doubt they will move away from spray patterns

[jolly goblet]

Also type 100, that thing is a fucking laser beam

[spark acorn]

majority of people wouldn't care lol

[slim quiver]

yeah true

[tribal wyvern]

i quit rust two weeks after buyign it

way too punishing

mroe punishing than tarkov

i genuinely was having no fun with it

[arctic grove]

Dude yeah it does, even if it isnt random bullet spread, the guns in MW 100% have some sort of spread

believe me

[spark acorn]

refund?

[next onyx]

You can tell the gun based off the class and fire rate, That's always been a thing in any game

[shy rapids]

But that doesn't change the fact that every gun in the game sounds totally different from each other

[tribal wyvern]

no i haven't refunded

[arctic grove]

Only sounds i give a shit about is footsteps and talking

[next onyx]

Hey look it's a skorpion because i recognise that rythem

[spark acorn]

no shit. they just feel the same to me.

[tribal wyvern]

i bought it to play with my friend qand my friend's a fuckign dickhead

[arctic grove]

you never know

[next onyx]

Hey it's an FG42 because it has a deep firing sound

[tribal wyvern]

rushing and trying to raid abses with a fuckin rock

[median cloak]

You need to crouch to decently control a AK

[spark acorn]

i don't pay attention to gun details that deep unlike you.

[tribal wyvern]

and when we get guns we die immediately after

it's not the recoil that's punishing

it's the players

[next onyx]

I'm more scared of fighting people with an FG42 than i am than any other gun

[tribal wyvern]

and how hard it is to survive when you got a rock

[shy rapids]

No it doesn't, it has bullet velocity, there's no spread at all, I've been playing along time and they definitely feel on target when shooting every shot

[spark acorn]

I haven't seen any user play with that gun in ages in BFV.

[next onyx]

In bf5 you can control recoil better by crouch shooting

[median cloak]

Did you ever get guns ?

[spark acorn]

They're more interested in using the bren or lewis :/

[arctic grove]

Russian 1895 underrespresentaion smhmh

[shy rapids]

So then you're just not paying attention to each gun then if they all feel the same

[tribal wyvern]

yes

but we die not long afte that

[next onyx]

Too bad you're not on Xbox, Cause it's one of the things i'm known for here in OCE lol

[tribal wyvern]

each time we get guns

[spark acorn]

if i did, ofc they would be different.

[tribal wyvern]

we either die

or survive, and next day base is raided

[arctic grove]

At least there is no mg telescopic

[spark acorn]

XBOX.

[median cloak]

The guns feel painful to use

[arctic grove]

dude, it has spread, even if its set patterns, there is almost no fps games without spread

[median cloak]

I can’t control half of them

[arctic grove]

MW19 definitely has spread

[jolly goblet]

Welp spread sucks

[shy rapids]

So then how is their nothing unique when there is?

[spark acorn]

cuz they all sound the same

[arctic grove]

I see more boys at and m2/m1a1 than the bren or lewis anyway

[next onyx]

LMG's are kinda rare

Well, A serious MG user

[shy rapids]

No it doesn't, it has bullet velocity, definitely different from bullet spread which a lot of people dislike, if the game had bullet spread, it would be harder to hit targets on point

[next onyx]

Because they're a bit more niche

[jolly goblet]

I saw ls26 everywhere

[next onyx]

LS26 is a fun gun

[slim quiver]

you can i just think if they don't theyre moving backwards if they do not keep it

[median cloak]

I’ve never liked LMG’s in battlefield games

[swift carbon]

What are the system requirements

[next onyx]

!!specs

[tender pendant]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[shy rapids]

I hope LMGs and pistols are fun to use in BF 2042... and that you don't have to lay on the ground

[next onyx]

LMG's have been rather shit in the past battlefields, BFH and BF5's are the absolute best.

[arctic grove]

BFV has spread, MW19 has spread, CSGO has spread, Cold War has spread, Insurgency has spread, RS2 has spread, etc etc

[next onyx]

well no, Support.

In Hardline they get battle rifles

[arctic grove]

Im gonna commit top gunner

[next onyx]

Which are pretty much more snipey and lethal assault rifles

[jolly goblet]

Lmgs in bf1 is nerfed very drastically

[next onyx]

You got the SCAR H, a full auto FN FAL

SA58

[jolly goblet]

They are so shit at shooting far range

[next onyx]

A compact G3 named the HK51

What do you mean 1's MG's are perfect

[arctic grove]

You ever played monte grappa?

[jolly goblet]

Welp they always got spreaded

[arctic grove]

if your gun moves while shooting at that effects your shots, then that is spread

[onyx oar]

LMG bf1 is meta. not sure what you are on about

[shy rapids]

CW doesn't have spread, MW19 doesn't either, R6 doesn't, and Fortnite as well

[jolly goblet]

More like inaccurate piece of shit

[next onyx]

Madsen was a lot of fun there

Alongside the BAR

But

[arctic grove]

R6 100% has spread patterns, the game is built around it

[next onyx]

After playing bf5 it's hard t o go back to the old MGs

[arctic grove]

I use the most underrated lmg ever in bf1 benet mercie

[shy rapids]

No, that's recoil, totally different from spread, but BF5s spread causes recoil

[onyx oar]

LMG, go prone, hold left trigger, profit

not so hard

[shy rapids]

No it 100% doesn't, bullets actually hit the target?

[next onyx]

Lewith gun

[median cloak]

Have you seen the spread on the SMG-11 ?

[arctic grove]

No the annihilator is better

[jolly goblet]

Cheater's favorite friend

[shy rapids]

Barely is any spread, just a lot of recoil

[arctic grove]

having balanced spread does not = GUN NO HITTIE TARGET

learn the difference between recoil and spread

[next onyx]

I got called a striker after playing with slings and swivels lewith gun jsut for fun... I hit an 80 kill bomb on narvik out of all maps....

[onyx oar]

smg 11 is 🔥

[shy rapids]

No, but that means bullets go random places at times and not your target, not because of your aim but because of the gun itself

[arctic grove]

that is random bullet spread, completely different thing

[shy rapids]

Yes, you really should learn the difference between bullet velocity and bullet spread

[arctic grove]

i never had fun with bf1 and bfv. i always felt like the you were catching someone off guard and killing them having barely any 1v1 shootouts

What spread bullshit you talking about idk i play scout

[shy rapids]

Which is still bullet spread nevertheless

[arctic grove]

I specifically said MW19 does have bullet spread, just not random

[shy rapids]

No, it doesn't

It has bullet velocity and recoil

[arctic grove]

No 1v1 shootouts cause its always 1v10 shootouts

[jolly goblet]

Hope G36C gets a return

[onyx oar]

that's called a flank, which means you outplayed the enemy.

[slim quiver]

'yea, like i said. If we go back to bloom and no weapon patterns. Then we are in trouble

[arctic grove]

whatever I'm sick of talking to a brick wall

gn

[shy rapids]

Same, but a lot of guns I wish to return probably won't because they're either just present time, or older and will not be used in the future

[jolly goblet]

Bf5 has no patterns

[shy rapids]

Yes, take your L and leave

[slim quiver]

yes it does

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind some spread being a factor that we can improve upon, I dunno. After playing bf4 for a bit with the scar it felt really rewarding to get some medium ranged kills.

But at hte same time

[jolly goblet]

Welp shit i argued with you before

[arctic grove]

Theres infact an easy mode to bfv there are two ways to activate it 1. Use m2 carbine 2. Go to the train track as scout in Rotterdam

[arctic grove]

no im leaving because it's 3 am

[spiral horizon]

[onyx oar]

I hope bullets go straight so I can tickle people with my pistol from long distances

[arctic grove]

[next onyx]

It's annoying to be hit with Bullet RNG basically

[slim quiver]

the devs themselves have confirmed there is spray patterns in V

[median cloak]

Just take your L and shut up

[shy rapids]

Go, eat your krabby patty at 5am

[arctic grove]

ik what its called but i never found that fun its like with @arctic grove said 1v10.

[next onyx]

Knock it off.

[onyx oar]

[arctic grove]

I like 1v10 though cause then i have excuses to call myself a goat because i shot first in a sniper fight

[shy rapids]

Same, hopefully they don't drop like a nerf dart

[arctic grove]

lol

[next onyx]

Pistoles are meant to be backup, Not guns you main with

[shy rapids]

Yes... that's how BF4 bullet drops felt like, a nerf dart

[arctic grove]

Not gonna stop me

[next onyx]

And even so in servers that do pistol only it's better balanced

[shy rapids]

I want to use pistols as a main, not as backup

[slim quiver]

no worries

[shy rapids]

I want to be John Wick with a supressor on my pistols

[onyx oar]

more thinking about the bullets veering left or right. It's very annoying in BF1 not being able to have people freak out by 5 damage pistol shots from very long distances xD

[next onyx]

Oh yeah not gonna stop you, Going on an m1911 streak is fun but they're mean to be your last line of defence.

[arctic grove]

Ive gotten hundreds of random ass headshots with the damn revlover mk 27

[next onyx]

Oh the model 27

Or the 37?

[pastel comet]

can i somehow cap the fps in bf4 PROFSAVE_profile file?

[next onyx]

Wait 37 ist shotgun

That thing is fucking dirty

[arctic grove]

Idk the one in bfv

[next onyx]

No i know what you're on about

[slim quiver]

Oh no way....dont be blinded by it... dont fall to the enemy

[onyx oar]

bring back Howdah pistol. Such a weaird but fun little gun

[shy rapids]

Well yeah, for me its annoying to hit my shots on a person not that far and then I run out of ammo as most of my bullets don't hit the target so I just die

[next onyx]

I followed it up afterwards - But you see where i'm coming from right

[slim quiver]

if we get bloom on DMRs way im coming for you

[shy rapids]

Glock 19 in 2042?

[slim quiver]

yeah i do haha

[median cloak]

They should add the liberator to BF2042

[arctic grove]

That and the other revolver mk 27 revolver go beast mode withing 15 meters

[slim quiver]

tho i dont want BF4 LMGs

[next onyx]

I'll be in the jet bitch, Try to get me!

[slim quiver]

no fuckin thank you

[next onyx]

AWS would be cool to see again

With the drum mag

[bleak nebula]

did someone say jets

[next onyx]

Go away dutch

[shy rapids]

A-10 please?

[next onyx]

I'll burn some cheese in your name

[arctic grove]

The auto revolver in bf1 is 10 times more goated

[onyx oar]

Battlefield moments xD Tho I am happy to see the revolver with scope return in 2042 😄

[slim quiver]

i mean i dont want BF4 like spread the way they had LMGs

[bleak nebula]

two seater please

[next onyx]

Attack jets are fun but you need a friendly jet to back you up

Yeah i get ya, I just remembered that the AWS existed.

[lofty shore]

u don't

[median cloak]

I hope they bring back the liberator

[onyx oar]

and an AA that doesnt basecamp

[lofty shore]

just be good lol

[arctic grove]

I used to know how to pilot

[next onyx]

LMG's with drum mag will be something fun to experiment with, Assuming we get them.

I mean after a while you'll learn to fight the lower skilled pilots

[shy rapids]

Yeah, well it looks a bit weird to me

[spark acorn]

until i crashed my helicopter in the knee

[next onyx]

I once fell off my bed playing bf4 in the scout helicopter because i was gotten locked on by half a dozen people

[jolly goblet]

M17 P320 confirmed?

[next onyx]

It sucked me in that much lmao

[shy rapids]

We really need those A-10s though... if they're really going to bring back Little Birds, they HAVE to bring back an A-10

[onyx oar]

wonder if there will be bomber planes

[arctic grove]

Uh why did it send that i was gonna ramble about how much i hate attack helicopters

[bleak nebula]

stealth can take care of that tbh

[slim quiver]

dw guys ill make a tutorial video for 2042 on how to control recoil

[next onyx]

The f35 is scheduled to return, we might get an attack variant of that because they're set to replace the A10

[shy rapids]

Stealth?

[next onyx]

Stealth jets are dogfighters

[slim quiver]

it will just be me saying "pull down on the mouse"

[arctic grove]

you used to be able to run jets into your teammates tank and make it go flying at certain angles. i wonder what tank physics are gonna be like

[topaz hazel]

Alligator helicopter

[mental stone]

yo

[median cloak]

I don’t want to be obliterated by Timmy in a A-10

[next onyx]

Or push it up on invert

[lofty shore]

they should just bring back stealth rockets

and dump attacks

[onyx oar]

honestly the best advice to give

[shy rapids]

Wheres my water helicopter??

[arctic grove]

Anywas i absolutely fucking hate helicopters in bf4 they are all over the place and no one bothers to take them down

[next onyx]

SLAM JAM THE TANKS

[slim quiver]

ive never flown a jet in a battlefield game ever. never even spawned in one

[lofty shore]

@arctic grovehate ur team for that

[shy rapids]

I want to see Timmy attack

[bleak nebula]

just get a f35

[arctic grove]

EXACTLY

[slim quiver]

ive played the game for 19 years and never got into a jet

[arctic grove]

You dont need to tell me that again

[bleak nebula]

that's some dedicated jet hate, I respect

[next onyx]

Literally have slams on your stealth jet then ram the tank

[arctic grove]

As a scout main i already hate my team 24/7

[next onyx]

As a support main i fucking hate my team

[slim quiver]

theres still tanks ive never stepped into as well

[next onyx]

I'm the only one that pushes with an MG xD

[slim quiver]

as well as jeeps

[onyx oar]

Disgusting, I'm going to do that from now on

[next onyx]

I planned to do that on bf5 with mines on planes but they don't exactly stick.

[topaz hazel]

I’ve always been shit at Air vehicles but decent at ground vehicles

[bleak nebula]

c5 on jets 👌

[median cloak]

As a Assault main I fucking hate my team

[onyx oar]

Dice should have called C5 C4.20 just sayin

[lofty shore]

that would be really funny i think

[next onyx]

don't forget the Zip 22

[slim quiver]

as a medic main i hate when my team sits back

[onyx oar]

zip22? what's that?

[arctic grove]

place c4 underteams tank blow it up and use the grappling hook as its in the air

[slim quiver]

any team im on that the majority of people sniping, its a really bad time

[spark acorn]

THROWING A C5!

[median cloak]

I play medic a lot too and I completely agree

[lofty shore]

push with medic

[onyx oar]

If someone places a C4 in 2042 you should probably report them for cheating

[spark acorn]

yeah in this new BF, you can be the ultimate medic O_O

[lofty shore]

or even better, flank

[next onyx]

This thing

[onyx oar]

ah the meme gun

[arctic grove]

Ill be out of ammo and chase a support across the goddamn map for ammo and then when i nest back up my entire team decides ti block my view every 5 seconds and whenever i wanna climb onto a tank for a mobile little armored nest idk i like proning on tanks the tank doesnt understand and keeps on driving for hours after i get shot like 32 times and my kd ratio becomes fucking negative by the time i end up climbing the tank for it to blow up 2 seconds afterward

[next onyx]

Whatever the fuck this is LMAO

[slim quiver]

its even worse when medic players use a jungle carbine

[arctic grove]

c4 not a thing?

I hate my team all the time

[onyx oar]

seen that floating around here and there

[spark acorn]

looks cute

[onyx oar]

its called C5 now

[median cloak]

Medics on top

[slim quiver]

nah im not happy with what weve seen for medic so far

[spark acorn]

medics with ammo crates and a healing syringe O_O

[arctic grove]

cant tell if srs

[median cloak]

😩

[onyx oar]

I am......

[arctic grove]

If it doesnt have type 2a im not playing it simple

[bleak nebula]

you're not happy with revive pistol ?

[spark acorn]

nah, that's what they legit called it in the new blog

[arctic grove]

😂

[slim quiver]

if i cant revive manually up close im going to be mad

[slim quiver]

Nope

[next onyx]

You have the vector which is a modern 2a

[spark acorn]

if it doesn't have instant coffee type ii has a healing weapon, im not buying.

[next onyx]

I'm not happy with support either

[median cloak]

Syrette pistol too 😩

[spark acorn]

How come?

[lofty shore]

me getting shot 10 times by a .50 cannon and getting revived by a defibrillator

[arctic grove]

What about 92 damage per shot Russian 1895

[next onyx]

It proves that if you want the most recent simple battlefield, Bf4 is the way to go and it'll still have a community following

[spark acorn]

seizures

[next onyx]

What about it grim

[spark acorn]

simple huh.

[arctic grove]

Is it in 2042??

[spark acorn]

yeah, random bullet spread is a big no no.

[slim quiver]

allowing medics to revive at range with a syringe pistol takes away a lot of the depth and skill i think out of the class in general

[lofty shore]

just fire bursts?

lmfao

IT MAkes gunplay more skilled

[spark acorn]

Sounds cool though.

imagine having skills in a casual shooter 🙄

[slim quiver]

it just tells me "lol just sit behind a corner and revive"

[shy rapids]

Why not

[slim quiver]

i mean most people have skills in casual shooters

[lofty shore]

yeah and?

[slim quiver]

its not even about skill

[topaz hazel]

It probably has a cool down or a number of shots

[spark acorn]

casual shooter doe !!!

[indigo storm]

I hope they add overshields

[spark acorn]

oh well if u wanna tryhard

then tryhard

[arctic grove]

ok so

trickshots: place c5 under team mates tank, blow it up so it launches into the air, use grappling hook to hook onto the tank (hopefully) launch into the air

[slim quiver]

it just takes away from the depth of the class if my revive is just aiming a pistol at a downed teammate

[spark acorn]

whats an overshield?

[next onyx]

i don't want to sound rude but what's the difference using medical packs to help people?

[lofty shore]

so controlling spread and recoil is tryharding

[shy rapids]

Then I will

[lofty shore]

got it

[next onyx]

You're healing people from the distance

[spark acorn]

same 😉

[lofty shore]

i should just miss all my shots and stop being such a tryhard!

[spark acorn]

yes it is on BF4

[indigo storm]

overshields like in Halo

[spark acorn]

unless u got the heavy barrel

[slim quiver]

med packs heal over time. They dont revive anyone

[lofty shore]

THA HEAVY BARREL

LOOOOOL

[slim quiver]

if the syringe healed, that would be fine

[next onyx]

I thought the health gun only healed?

[slim quiver]

but they revive on top of it

[next onyx]

Or

[spark acorn]

We don't know if the new BF has that mechanic.

[shy rapids]

Do all guns have a heavy barrel in the game?

[slim quiver]

apparently they revive

[spark acorn]

most guns

[lofty shore]

u literally only need kobra and stubby

just 2 attachments

[shy rapids]

What if I have no optic?

[spark acorn]

then die.

[lofty shore]

(in game)

[shy rapids]

Oh ok

[spark acorn]

yes

[slim quiver]

@next onyx however if it only heals

then thats okay

tho id prefer medpacks at that point because medpacks are unlimited

[next onyx]

I literally looked up as well LMAO

[median cloak]

Goodnight cool kids

[next onyx]

Night

[onyx oar]

looked like it reved in the trailer

[spark acorn]

wtf is an overshield

[slim quiver]

does it revive?

[spark acorn]

nighty night

[onyx oar]

but could have been someone else reving

[slim quiver]

because that what people have been saying

[next onyx]

Wtf

[bleak nebula]

it does revive

[onyx oar]

lol

[next onyx]

Where is that from Ice

[slim quiver]

yeah thats bad

[delicate hollow]

it can kill enemies

why

[spark acorn]

oh yeah

[onyx oar]

should read up more on the lore i guess

[spark acorn]

it's also infinite use

[bleak nebula]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-Announcements/Battlefield-Briefing-Welcome-to-2042/m-p/10415599#M1 official ea hq blogpost

[spark acorn]

pretty sure it is

[slim quiver]

its just a lazy way for medics to revive without 0 risk

[next onyx]

I mean, Maybe nanites that hurt enemy players

[median cloak]

I can sleep with sweet dreams about the syrette pistol tonight

[slim quiver]

it has 12 shots

[spark acorn]

12 shots that can be reused over and over again

[slim quiver]

yea

[spark acorn]

damn kinda op

[slim quiver]

if they get ammo

[next onyx]

yeah reused but spawned with 12

[slim quiver]

its just broken immo

[next onyx]

It's limited but

[arctic grove]

kinda better. at least you dont have to smoke revive

[onyx oar]

ez points for medic class farm it before they nerf it

[arctic grove]

Today im gonna do close range and iron sight a gewher m95

[spark acorn]

imagine healing all your 12 mates in a span of a few seconds with the syringe

lol

[slim quiver]

its just too bad

[spark acorn]

k have fun

[slim quiver]

i we dont have revive animations upclose

[arctic grove]

Ty

[spark acorn]

pretty sure we do

[slim quiver]

Im hoping

i know we have squad revives

[spark acorn]

didn't the new blog say about teammates revive system from BFV coming back?

[slim quiver]

but i just want medics to be able to revive up close

[next onyx]

@slim quiver What's annoying in my view is that support class isn't the only class that gives our ammo anymore

[arctic grove]

smoke is op not gonna lie

[slim quiver]

if we cant revive up close ill be really sad

[slim quiver]

thats just dumb

i think other classes can carry med kits too

[next onyx]

But that being said

[onyx oar]

they should have an animation where you stick a syringe in the heart filled with adrenaline to rev someone like in pulp fiction

[next onyx]

We gotta wait and see how it plays

[topaz hazel]

If squad revives are a thing you can probably revive up close lol

[spark acorn]

yes

[bleak nebula]

we don't really have classes anymore, no matter what dice says, I mean the moment maria can use revive gun and a rpg, it's not really a class anymore

[spark acorn]

maria falcke being a medic specialist, can use ammo crates.

[spark acorn]

yeah this

classes are legit gone

[slim quiver]

im really just surprised we cant create a soldier. it seems like their entire design scheme for the game was sandbox experience and build your soldier how you want your soldier

and then they created specialists

[next onyx]

More specialised archtypes but... Eh

[spark acorn]

eh honestly having specialists in my opinion doesn't sound bad

i wanna try it now and see how its like

[next onyx]

Yeah same

[spark acorn]

then ill give judgement

[slim quiver]

they could have had specified arch types for the classes

[spark acorn]

they could

[lofty shore]

everyone will run ammo kit and medkit on whatever they'll make the new locker

and no more revives

sad!

[slim quiver]

lol doubt to that

[spark acorn]

dice is shit at explaining this class system specialist system shit.

[onyx oar]

Honestly I'm not against specialists. It can be a lot of fun (maybe) as long as they don't do like Siege and release too many where things become gimmicky

[spark acorn]

or rockets too.

[topaz hazel]

RPG spam day 1 nerf day 3

[next onyx]

Can't be as bad as BFH

[lofty shore]

rockets are irrelevant on locker

[slim quiver]

anytime theres a metro or locker game they replace every single healing thing imaginable with a rocket launcher or some other explosive

[onyx oar]

sure if you say so

[spark acorn]

that would sound meh.

[slim quiver]

thats the one thing i wish BF would change

i want them to strip like 50% of the anti personnel explosives

[lofty shore]

last time i died to a rl on locker or metro was a few years ago

and i played these maps many times after that

[short falcon]

i don't like specialists because it's stripping more choice from us just to sell us gadgets later on

[slim quiver]

i want like a big cut down on how many explosives you can have on one person

[spark acorn]

expect a bunch of users solo playing with rocket launcher as their gadgets

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind it if they brought the classes back as is but make the weapons free form or less restrictions

[arctic grove]

specialists: whatever you want
meta gun
rpg
medic kit or ammo kit
nades/smoke

bet

[spark acorn]

pretty much

[next onyx]

I'm just gonna be a BFH assault with Grappling hook, AR/BR - and meds.

[lofty shore]

med kit + ammo kit

[short falcon]

Can't, You're only allowed to choose one gadget

[lofty shore]

[spark acorn]

da webster mackay

[short falcon]

The second gadget is dictated by your specialist

[onyx oar]

Cant wait to sniff out that one gun that is also Meta but no one cries about it and wont get nerf in the first patch 🙂

[next onyx]

If it's there, For me it'll either be the SCAR or Vector baby

[spark acorn]

so 3 days till EA Play Live.

What you guys want to see for their BF2042 announcement?

[next onyx]

There'll always be a meta gun no matter what, But the best thing to do is make a few meta guns.

[short falcon]

Also why would you not take an rpg if anyone at any time can summon a vehicle

the meta gun will be the rpg, because there's no reason not to take it

[next onyx]

It's why i'm a fan of bf5 support because pretty much 9 out of 10 weapons are actually really good

[lofty shore]

dont need an rpg on locker

[next onyx]

Looking at you type 97

[bleak nebula]

inb4 rpg gets nerfed and starts doing 5 damage each

[lofty shore]

even if u can summon something there it would only be a quad

[onyx oar]

honestly just gameplay and talking about the other two modes

[bleak nebula]

because everyone runs it

[arctic grove]

AEK-971

[lofty shore]

aek is not op

[next onyx]

They better make rockets actually powerful against tanks considering it'll be your only AT

[lofty shore]

ace 23 is

[short falcon]

game becomes bumper cars because we cant use explosives anymore :^))))

[delicate hollow]

and the sun is blue

[next onyx]

20 to 25 to a tank please

[onyx oar]

no it's green

idiot

😛

[lofty shore]

actually whats really op is a shotgun

much faster ttk than ace 23 or aek

[onyx oar]

now that we can all agree on

[bleak nebula]

I like being able to instantly disable a tank from behind with an rpg

[next onyx]

50 - 60 damage to their engine yes

Sherman at release with their HEAT shells used to do 90 to a Chi ha's engine

Chi ri's could do 45 - 55 to a shermans front

[arctic grove]

yeah ik it was the an94

DA got that dope

[bleak nebula]

I think if everyone ends up running rpgs, tank mains will go back to camping from range , is going to be fun

[next onyx]

I was just thinking of that

But you know ice

Get into your jet and destroy them

[bleak nebula]

hell yeah

[onyx oar]

bf1 mortar trucks ptsd kicks in

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind bf3 jets in all honesty

[arctic grove]

Or be a brave tank

[next onyx]

Maybe a bit less powerful but

Them being all rounders were simple enough

It's why the pacific planes were so much fun

[bleak nebula]

yeah bf3 jets were a bit too powerful, but a slightly nerfed multi purpose jets would be great

[arctic grove]

I liked pocketing tanks as support

[next onyx]

Give us options for Zuni's or a stronger laser guided

[arctic grove]

what was the limit 5 tanks on each side? so 10 out at once

[onyx oar]

pocketing tanks? what does that mean?

[next onyx]

Have the main guns maybe shave 30 - 40 health per run?

[bleak nebula]

zuni's, like rocket pods in bf3 👌

[next onyx]

Yeah

They were hydras in 3

[arctic grove]

Its like pocketing in ow

[onyx oar]

I am confusion

[arctic grove]

im hoping for long tank cooldowns

[onyx oar]

never heard the term ''pocketing'' in my life

[arctic grove]

Camping with a tank and repairing it every moment you can

[short falcon]

why bother

just blow up your tank and call in it's respawned air drop bro

[onyx oar]

aaaaaah I see. works better with a friend ttho

[next onyx]

That reminds me that I got my golden rep tags in 5 the other day so

Yeet

[arctic grove]

Cause im shit at using automatic weapons

[short falcon]

why waste your one chosen gadget on a repair tool

when you can respawn the tank immediately

[next onyx]

For dedicated vehicle mains that don't want to wait

[onyx oar]

why use gun when you can use boom?

[next onyx]

Or for assisting forces

That's like saying why use a DMR when you can use a sniper

[short falcon]

why use gun when everyone can summon an armoured vehicle

[onyx oar]

other way around imo

[arctic grove]

Stronger tank >dude and a normal tank

Thats why

[next onyx]

True but you can be aggro with DMR's

at least

Blah

[onyx oar]

DMR > Sniper

[arctic grove]

how many rps to kill a tank in bfv?

[arctic grove]

You capping

You forgetting kar98k and russian 1895

[elder mango]

Takes time to drop in and costs points also a cool down I just hope it’s not stupid overpowered still

[onyx oar]

Also im shit at sniping so I need my trainingwheels on at all times when playing scout lol

[arctic grove]

And gewher m95

[next onyx]

I used the Zh to rank up recon because i didn't want to go through that pain

And i will never touch the ZH again

[arctic grove]

Cant imagine being bad at snipiny

[next onyx]

It's all about the model 8/RSC life

[arctic grove]

I need to clip more of my sniper shit

you learn to snipe quick in bfv

[onyx oar]

okay maybe not bad but the amount of sweat that is involved in me using a sniper is worrysome

[arctic grove]

best map is the one with all those open fields

[onyx oar]

I get real emotional as a scout cause i swear on my life i shot him in the face xD

[arctic grove]

I find it weird you sweat playing scout normally i only ever get aggressive and angry when im playing frontline im the calmest sniping

[onyx oar]

ah yes that one

[arctic grove]

Havent gotten a drop of sweat as scout

[onyx oar]

I throw the scope in the trashbin and rush B cyka

[arctic grove]

Completely valid

[onyx oar]

BF1 scout no scope is my jam tho

[arctic grove]

I used to be up in the shit with russian 1895 infantry with 15 kills each life

[onyx oar]

It feels so damn good outplaying the team at close range with a sniper rifle

[arctic grove]

!when

?when

[onyx oar]

Russian 1895 is really nice to use tho

[arctic grove]

I prefer to take it slow though

!tim

!time

!eta

I say as i stat consistently on the train track im rotterdam

In*

[delicate hollow]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[arctic grove]

!when

lol it doesn't work for me

3 days, good

[delicate hollow]

gotta be regular or booster

[arctic grove]

Rotterdam is the most aggressive sniping map ever

[arctic grove]

oh ok

Ive 1v7ed with a sniper and didnt miss any headshits

Headshots*

headshit

😄

3/4s of my kar98k kills are headshots

[onyx oar]

look at my stats in the stat chat

im a sweaty bf1 nerd

[arctic grove]

such a shame BF5 does not have custom played owned servers like BF4

You can do stats?

How do i show my bfv stats

#stats

No i mean like the command

[delicate hollow]

it has custom servers

[onyx oar]

show me your stats grim

[arctic grove]

Im asking how

[onyx oar]

!bf# pc/xbox/ps (name)

[arctic grove]

Oh ok

That means i have to show my cringey ass username

[vocal mica]

yep

[onyx oar]

top 3% kills is that in the world or my region?

[delicate hollow]

world i believe

[arctic grove]

I honestly dont play bf 1

[minor helm]

Sab

I enjoy bfv more than bf1

[arctic grove]

Same

@next onyx whata flex

My stats are probably 10x worse on bfv too

[minor helm]

Campers

To many

[next onyx]

[arctic grove]

!when

[next onyx]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[arctic grove]

Wow ig im an assault main tgen

[minor helm]

50% of the people in bf5 are people who use lmg's and lay prone on the ground

[arctic grove]

Bf1*

I can't wait for this game

[minor helm]

And to many snipers in bf5 too

[next onyx]

I love using my legs

[minor helm]

Its to ez in bfv

[arctic grove]

Hey im standing right here

[minor helm]

Same

Bfv has good movement, use it

[arctic grove]

Im a megachad sniper that crouches instead of proning

[minor helm]

[next onyx]

I'm the chad support that actually gives ammo

[minor helm]

I hate snipers

They ruin games

[next onyx]

But it's really awkward people staring at me when my box is on cool down

[arctic grove]

Where have you been my entire life

[minor helm]

[arctic grove]

Ill make sure to teabag you if i see you dont worry

[minor helm]

Im a type 2a abuser

[arctic grove]

Relatable

[delicate hollow]

im the chad pc support who actually gives ammo

[minor helm]

[next onyx]

I'm the guy who abuses the Fg42 and BAR

[minor helm]

I love to stab prone lmg's or snipers

[arctic grove]

im the medic who always revives

[lofty shore]

how do u abuse a weapon

[minor helm]

Abuse it

[minor helm]

Same bro

I love smoke

[arctic grove]

Im the guy that stands in the most obvious sniper nest and no one bats an eye and i get 32 kills in my life

[minor helm]

It is my fav thing in bfv

[lofty shore]

theres no weapon abusing, only using.

[arctic grove]

pop smoke revive repeat

[minor helm]

[minor helm]

[arctic grove]

You say you hate us but you never care when we there

[minor helm]

Im gonna stab you in bfv with a bottle

[arctic grove]

Do it

[minor helm]

I always stab

And then T-bag

[arctic grove]

Ive never been stabbed

[minor helm]

wHat

[arctic grove]

Only teabagged once

[minor helm]

[arctic grove]

My servers nice

[minor helm]

People should stab more

[arctic grove]

I stab alot

[minor helm]

I feel bad for youre enemies

[naive trellis]

Can't wait for this to happen to me

[minor helm]

No you should be stabbed

[arctic grove]

teabagging just isnt the same as halo teabagging

[arctic grove]

Trust me i do too cause im a scout main

[minor helm]

Lmao

[arctic grove]

Your job not mine

[minor helm]

You guys always have those trap's

Things

That go boom

[arctic grove]

No i really dont

[minor helm]

Hm

[arctic grove]

I didnt know people used those

[naive trellis]

Landmines?

[minor helm]

No

[arctic grove]

Ap mines

[minor helm]

^

[arctic grove]

I use grenade rifle and flare gun

[minor helm]

Plz tell me you dont use aim snap

[arctic grove]

Aim snap?

[minor helm]

Youre on pc?

[next onyx]

I've been trying to use AP mines as of late for pursuers

[arctic grove]

No

[minor helm]

Ps4?

[arctic grove]

Im on ps4

[minor helm]

There is something called zoom dnap

Snap*

[next onyx]

You know, Kill some people in the building or choke point, Lay some them and run away.

[minor helm]

Its for NOOBS

[arctic grove]

O havent seen any snaps so im gonna suppose no

[minor helm]

You can check it

In settings

[arctic grove]

What game

Bfv?

[minor helm]

Bfv

[arctic grove]

Cant

[minor helm]

Yes

[minor helm]

WhaT

[arctic grove]

Dont have it downloaded currently

[minor helm]

Lmao

[arctic grove]

Bro its 100gb

[minor helm]

Better than cod

[arctic grove]

Sure is

bf4>bfv

I disagree

[minor helm]

Yea only bf4's movement sucks ass

[arctic grove]

I honestly kinda hate bf4

[minor helm]

An vichles are to op in bf4

[minor helm]

Why?

[arctic grove]

Its just running to capture a point where nobody is at

[minor helm]

Hmm

[arctic grove]

i play rush

[minor helm]

Sabsabsab

[arctic grove]

Large conquest is too big and small is too big too

And the maps hardly help

At least in bfv it makes it easier to catch dumbasses lacking

[lofty shore]

bf4 movement sucks

[slim quiver]

I hate conquest as a mode

[lofty shore]

get zouzou'd

[minor helm]

[slim quiver]

BF4 movement does suck tbh

[minor helm]

Comman its true

Bf4 movement is bad

[arctic grove]

I play breakthrough grand op and really thats it

I wish the artillery day in grand op was a game mode

[slim quiver]

same

conquest is just bad imo

[arctic grove]

this

[slim quiver]

this is me playing conquest rn

[minor helm]

I play conquest the only prob is WHY DO TANKS HAVE THERMAL OPTICS

[slim quiver]

oh gee look the guy in the vehicle is 48 and 0?

[arctic grove]

Conquest is only remotely fun in fao foretress and hamada

[minor helm]

And little bird's are to op

[arctic grove]

Or gallipoli

[slim quiver]

wow who would have guessed in conquest where vehicle players just get to do whatever they want

[minor helm]

I hate hamada

[arctic grove]

That one massive hamada map i love

[minor helm]

Yo many snipers

To*

I hate it

[arctic grove]

You aint never seen monte grappa

[minor helm]

Neoninja better

[arctic grove]

My least favorite map cause its bf1 so its not just snipers theres also mg telescopics

the only time conquest was fun was in 1942 remake

[minor helm]

Lmao

Does that exist?

[arctic grove]

Bfv

[minor helm]

Ah

[slim quiver]

1942 had good conquest

because there was so much variety

[arctic grove]

yes

[slim quiver]

and the vehicles could be easily countered

[arctic grove]

I can bear with pacific war conquest in bfv

Any other map is unbearable

i had a blast with 1943. the plane control was probably the best too

I hate the one wher all the points belong to the enemies

Strategic i think

Mg telescopic is the biggest mistake in history

[slim quiver]

if 2042 ends up like this ill be disgruntled

[arctic grove]

What?

But its bf1 it has russian 1895

Id love that

[slim quiver]

and it also has people that never leave tanks because its the safest thing imaginable

[arctic grove]

Never seen that

thats why i keep saying im hoping for long cooldowns

Artillery trucks maybe

hell even 1 time spawn for each person

But then theres no vehicles after the first minute

works for me lol

Only vehicle ive had problems with are planes

ive been playing battlefield since bad company. ive never cared for vehicles to the point where ppl camp on them

its not fun

Ive never had problems like you

Cause every map i play on is like rotterdam and iwo jima

Iwo jima is shit and can suck my ass and fall into a coffin for all i care

Worst sniper map ever

What am i gonna do camp behind a dreadnoght and get bombed by a plane every couple of seconds and halt at the first sector?

[delicate hollow]

iwo jima is where i hit my longest headshot

[arctic grove]

My longest headshot is on fjell 62

[delicate hollow]

how far?

[arctic grove]

Idk i was just supposing idek you could check

Probably like 500m

[delicate hollow]

how would i check

i dont know your name

just check your stats and you can see

[slim quiver]

been playing since before that and its always the same

anytime a person defends vehicles, its a vehicle main

[arctic grove]

224 meters

Doesnt say the map

Hamada or fjell

[slim quiver]

when a person has like a 3.5 K/D

and then you click on their stats and all their guns have minimum playtime but theyre always in a plane or a tank'

thats how you just know

[delicate hollow]

mine is 470 on iwo

[arctic grove]

How do people get level 50 heavy bomber in bf1

[slim quiver]

oh because they never leave it

[arctic grove]

right

[slim quiver]

every game they fly around

[arctic grove]

What about support

Nvm

Ik why

[slim quiver]

when you see them actually have to play a class

they die

[mortal raft]

I defend vehicles and certainly don't main them

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[worthy pond]

99% of people cannot use a vehivle effectively

[arctic grove]

I can use an artillery truck

[next onyx]

I try to be an all rounder in bf

[arctic grove]

Thats about it

[mortal raft]

Same

[worthy pond]

you cannot nerf vehicles soley because of a small percentage of the population that knows how to squeeze out every bit of performance in the vehicles

[vale coral]

i dont get it, if you hate vehicles why don'y you just play game modes that don't include them ?

[arctic grove]

I do too but i have a considerably worse time playing support medic and assault most of the timr

I play infantry only

best decision ever

[worthy pond]

that would not fix the problem at all and would make vehicles borderline useless as the majority of the population could not even use them effevtively in tbe first place

[mortal raft]

I feel strong vehicles are essential to Battlefield's feel and I mostly play infantry.

[worthy pond]

the case with vehicles is the same case with infabtry

[arctic grove]

I think I'm the worst vehicle player in BF

[spark acorn]

yes you are

[worthy pond]

people will abuse slide mechanics, jump mechanics, ADS mechanics, etc

[spark acorn]

K was joking

[slim quiver]

No, to make vehicles not a problem is make them high risk high reward

not low risk, high reward

[worthy pond]

it already is a high risk high reward

all it takes is 4 rockets and you are dead

[next onyx]

Vehicles should be powerful yeah. But so should your checks.

[slim quiver]

it is definitely not high risk lol

[worthy pond]

and why is that?

[arctic grove]

Tanks are a kill farm as a scout main

[worthy pond]

high risk means high risk, not that nobody can use them

[arctic grove]

Top gunner

[next onyx]

But then there's the flieger which is unpredictable

[mortal raft]

They should just prevent the camping somehow.
When people use vehicles aggressively they are decently balanced

[worthy pond]

high risk will mean thst there will be players who severely outperform the majority of the population

do you see every single tank in a match going 100-2?

[arctic grove]

bfv is nothing but camping tanks

Only high risk part of tanks are top gunner

[mortal raft]

If vehicles become more high risk people will camp even more

[slim quiver]

with shit like quick repair, blowing multiple people away with just a main gun and then a MG, they have time to just back up behind a hill. Getting 4 rockets in isnt just easy, nobody is going to let you do that. Also rockets in bfv do like low 20's damage, so 4 rockets will get the tank down to like 10% HP

[mortal raft]

People don't play aggressive with vehicles in BFV because that has a risk

[slim quiver]

People snipe with tanks in bfv

[mortal raft]

BFV has a lot of anti vehicle gadgets.

[arctic grove]

Im standing here

[worthy pond]

im mainly discussing bf4, bfv is shit game

[slim quiver]

and they still get the same results as people playing aggressive with tanks in BF1

[mortal raft]

Exactly the problem

[arctic grove]

point prove low risk with camping=high reward

I rush with the hachi

[slim quiver]

if you make tanks tanky and aggressive

they get the bf1 effect

where this time theyre aggressive, but they pretty much still end up getting 70-100 kills a game

and 4 deaths

[next onyx]

People sat away in bf1 too

[mortal raft]

Hence they need mechanics to reduce the camping

[next onyx]

It was tiring

[slim quiver]

they sit at a distance in solo tanks

[next onyx]

Hachi is scary

[slim quiver]

but the bigger a7v's and mark ivs they are aggressive

because they can get hit with multiple names and quick repair

[arctic grove]

What how is me rushing evidence to nerf tanks

[next onyx]

A7v.. aggro??? Sorry I never encountered an aggro heavy tanker

Landship was more niche

[slim quiver]

Oh lol you should have seen my last game

[next onyx]

At least

Ahhh

[arctic grove]

😈

[next onyx]

You've seen my flying clips... I want to go aggro but it's so boring when you can't

[slim quiver]

guy just gets to be aggressive in a big tank

[acoustic oar]

so many high pingers

[slim quiver]

gets 78 kills for literally just existing

[arctic grove]

Artillery truck

[next onyx]

It's a weird balance. We want aggro tanks but also non aggro.

Look vehicles are meant to be powerful but eh...

[next onyx]

At least with bombers you can check check with fighter

[slim quiver]

he wasnt in that

thing is, if theres a item in the game that makes you able to go 100-4 in a standard match

something is wrong

[random knoll]

when does it come out?

[delicate hollow]

oct 23

[arctic grove]

Vehicles are meant to be the thing in front pushing the line forward and covering their team in the process so they can capture objective faster and easier not to sit behind a hill and pot shot everyone

[onyx oar]

early access 15th if you gold or ultimate

[mortal raft]

The thing is if we nerf vehicle armor they will camp more.
Could nerf their weapon range maybe.

[slim quiver]

and every time someone brings up weapon balance people want things nerfed or retweaked because its annoying. But if you talk about vehicles being broken people just say "dont ruin our fun"

because the mentality is that vehicles are just something that inherently should just be able to roam around maps with little risk

[acoustic oar]

you should not be able to snipe half across a map with a tank

[arctic grove]

you should be able to 2 shot tanks

[acoustic oar]

do a dmg drop off for tanks aswell same as for guns

[arctic grove]

Yeah it makes us scout mains look bad

[slim quiver]

I think tanks should just have weak spots

[next onyx]

Here's the question then. Do you want people to sit back and snipe or be aggro. They're both just as bad as I see in the community eyes

[slim quiver]

The problem is, if theyre aggro its because theyre tanky enough for them to be aggro, if they snipe its because they cant be aggro

[arctic grove]

Tanks are for team playing

sit back and snipe is far better than tank

[next onyx]

There's no true way to balance something thats meant to be powerful. Directional damage is good but these people will purposely position that that can't.

[arctic grove]

I went 0-30 in BF1

Not rushing past their team or sitting back and watching

[next onyx]

But what do you want takes to be zy

[slim quiver]

when a tank player is aggro, its because they directly know they can take multiple hits and just literally drive away after the engagement

and also, theres no risk to repairing anymore

[next onyx]

Im not trying to have a go. I'm just trying to ask what do you think is a solution because we all have many ideas.

[slim quiver]

i can repair inside my tank

[arctic grove]

Tanks should either hold a line or push a line

[slim quiver]

I have a few idea to balance tanks

[mortal raft]

If the balance between vehicles was broken people would want one nerfed.
Just like if balance between weapons is broken.
But balance between vehicle and infantry is another thing.
Vehicles are supposed to be stronger than just infantry.

[arctic grove]

2 shot tanks is quick and simple

[slim quiver]

since the game has no problem now having call in tanks in 2042 it looks like it will be pretty abundant

and there has never been a shortage of tanks

tank players specifically can die in a tank and then just respawn in one

[arctic grove]

since most tankers camp thats plenty enough

[next onyx]

I like bf4 tanks. They're fast but infantry can do do much.

[slim quiver]

vehicles are supposed to be stronger than infantry but going as high as 70-3 or 100-4 is unacceptable

[mortal raft]

Would ruin it for players than don't camp and encourage camping

[slim quiver]

infantry players that hack literally get numbers equivalent to that just on the ground

[onyx oar]

best way of dealing with tanks in bf4 is starting a 5 man ucav party to one shot any tank anywhere on the map

[arctic grove]

theres more campers than there are rushers

[slim quiver]

best way to deal with tanks is one make sure the driver cant shoot a weapon

this reduces the idea of just 1 person in a 5 person tank being able to utilize a tank fully

[acoustic oar]

so my solution for balancing tanks would be nerfing them on range.... if they sit 100m+ away make it so after like after 100 meters their dmg gets reduced... the blast aoe dmg and the overall dmg

[onyx oar]

So go to the guys house and steal his mouse?

[slim quiver]

Wdym

just make the driver only able to drive

how hard is that

[mortal raft]

There is gonna be even more campers then.
I never camp in tanks and for that would just ruin them.

[arctic grove]

Yeah

[onyx oar]

if he aint got a mouse he cant shoot

[next onyx]

The biggest limitations to tank in bf5 is forced scope aim cause of input delay and speed

[slim quiver]

2nd, you need to be outside the vehicle to repair it

[arctic grove]

Driver should drive gunning is a gunners job

[slim quiver]

no more inside repairs

[mortal raft]

Also at least in BF4 I think more people play tanks aggressively

[arctic grove]

it wouldnt ruin them cause you still got repair

[slim quiver]

if you can repair at the safety of small arms fire

its broken

[next onyx]

I don't mind internal reps personally. Keeps people from stealing tanks

Well

Teammates

But some form of limitation would be nice

[slim quiver]

i guess then if we allow internal repairs

[mortal raft]

If two shots destroy them repair isn't gonna do much unless it's quick

[slim quiver]

increase the amount of damage a tank takes if its hit while repairing

[next onyx]

For planes yes it's important

Actually I suggested that earlier

Rpgs on the engine maul tanks in bf4

[slim quiver]

then add weak spots to tanks

[next onyx]

OK time to do 50 push ups

[onyx oar]

as long as vehicles dont have quick repairs im cool with it either way

[arctic grove]

I find tank camping acceptable only if they are camping on frontline to help the infantry push enemies back

[next onyx]

Technically there are

[slim quiver]

theyre not really defined well

the damage number difference isnt massive

[mortal raft]

That's better and reduce their range to discourage camping

[slim quiver]

at range a tank just shouldnt be able to 1 shot infantry

when i throw an anti tank bundle grenade it does less damage than a frag grenade

why is it so hard to balance a tank shell shot

just make tanks ultimately do less damage to infantry at range

and dont cut it down to like 70

i mean like slash it down to 40-50

so that they know they have to move up

[arctic grove]

Alr can we talk about not tanks

[slim quiver]

also get rid of quick repairs heal count. gut it completely

if you can revive 30% of your tank with 1 button

with no timer

slash it down to either 10 or turn it into a utility thing to like fix internal parts

[arctic grove]

keep quick heals just make it 2 shot tank. 2 with quick heal 4

[slim quiver]

2 shotting tanks is too much of a nerf

there needs to be a reason for people to have fun when they play vehicles

[arctic grove]

a good player will always find a to do good

[slim quiver]

but there shouldnt be a "lol i get to be invincible"