battlefield-2042

[severe hill]

Wide as a motherfucker

[arctic grove]

she looks more realistic now actually

have you even watched the trailer or did you just watch 1 tweet and decided to go off of it

[shy rapids]

Eh... I don't care about Horizon Zero or Spiderman Miles Morales

[spark acorn]

&

^

[shy rapids]

Spiderman is fun but yeah... Miles Morales is a waste to me

[severe hill]

Planetside 3 confirmed

[arctic grove]

spiderman ps4> Miles morales

[spark acorn]

Where?

[arctic grove]

also spiderman ps4 > spiderman ps4 remastered

[severe hill]

In an article some where on twitter

[arctic grove]

lmao

[spark acorn]

lol, just point out the source of your link.

[arctic grove]

you should use twitter less

[spark acorn]

not out of your mind forgetting where it's from.

[arctic grove]

it poisons the mind

[severe hill]

Nurfturf (@Nurfturf2) Tweeted:
You thought https://twitter.com/Nurfturf2/status/1416997318356787200?s=20

[spark acorn]

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/ps5-vs-xbox-series-x
They practically play similar, but you won't really see much difference in performance when you compare both.

PS5 vs XSX, its all about what games they offer etc

[severe hill]

Idk why bring up the consles

There just consles

There next gen

[arctic grove]

I agree as someone who has never owned a PS console ☑️

and the xsx is a more appropriate purchase

since the ps5 barely has good games

[spark acorn]

Eh, spice up the convo eh?

[arctic grove]

Well, PC has the most games

:)

[severe hill]

And it even has the series s which also runs on the same hardware if you cant afford an X

[spark acorn]

i think there are a few exclusive singleplayers that are fun

[arctic grove]

such as?

Well I mean the consoles did just come out

[severe hill]

Spiderman Mile Morales was a good one

[arctic grove]

actually wait don't reply to that

we should take this to #other-games

before we get muted

this is way off topic

[severe hill]

Alright so Battlefield

[spark acorn]

Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Ratchet and Clank<, Demon's Souls, Gran Turismo 7, and more upcoming PS5 exclusives @arctic grove

[severe hill]

Should Ranger have emotes

[spark acorn]

It just looks like you don't like PS5 exclusives at all for some reason.

[arctic grove]

I wonder if 2042 will be as good as halo, both have basically been ruined with their last installments, so it will be interesting to see

[spark acorn]

no

good as halo xd

[severe hill]

64 vs 64 player on Infinite right

For multiplayer

[arctic grove]

Halo is usually smaller scale

than BF

[severe hill]

Wait 32 vs 32

[arctic grove]

idk

[severe hill]

64 player matches

The devs talked about it during the the xbox event

[arctic grove]

hm cool

2042 looks good, but so does infinite, so who knows, it will just be interesting to see

[severe hill]

I think Battlefield should go in a darker tone with there maps

[spark acorn]

yes

[arctic grove]

maybe 2042 and infinite will fuck up COD player numbers

[severe hill]

Everything if it was like in an apocalypse

[spark acorn]

its already gotten dark

like the map we were shown

tornadoes

skies getting dark

etc

[arctic grove]

He means tone wise

not literal lighting

[severe hill]

Buildings leaning skyscrapers on fire

Sunset in the foreground

Like your hell

But in bf everything is colorful

We need that ww3 shit

[arctic grove]

if they add wacky cosmetics in the future, any apocalyptic style maps would look kinda silly

[spark acorn]

shhh

bad joke i told

[spark acorn]

oh yeah, they're definitely adding wacky cosmetics 1 year later

[arctic grove]

well you never know

[storm sentinel]

World War 3 change alot and it's gonna be Free to Play, damn BF 2042! hope u guys give a good shot

[arctic grove]

BFV kept a consistent tone

[severe hill]

I can show yall an example if the admit can enable images

[arctic grove]

despite being out of place

all of it's cosmetics mixed well together

[severe hill]

I hope they make flying easier

[arctic grove]

with the tone of the game

[arctic grove]

flying is already really easy

idk what else they could do

[spark acorn]

watch

[severe hill]

Add earthquakes and tsunamis

[spark acorn]

although the BF community will complain

they'll grow over it

[arctic grove]

Okay but why would they do that

like I said, V maintained a consistent outfit style, even though they needed and wanted cash from cosmetics

don't see why they would do differently now

a majority of people don't want skins like that

[spark acorn]

because V is a wonky WW2

and they decided to "fuck it, let's work on BF2042 instead"

[arctic grove]

Okay

[spark acorn]

there are already wonky as cosmetic skins on BFV

[arctic grove]

Like?

[spark acorn]

lol

like?

look at it yourself

what is this 'phantom opera' german character?

[arctic grove]

Being historically accurate and completely fucking bonkers random is different

[spark acorn]

japanese yandere girl serving in the japanese front? lol

american rambo looking mofo?

etc, etc.

[mortal raft]

The burning skin was pretty ridiculous

[arctic grove]

There is an easy explanation for that

he caught on fire

[mortal raft]

That skin didn't look really ridiculous

[spark acorn]

historically it did, but ofc this game was never going for that

but many majority of people did and disliked it

[mortal raft]

And is just burning during the entire match?

[spark acorn]

look at the trailer of her release, lots of dislikes

[arctic grove]

I personally wanted a ww2 version of bf1 with better gunplay

Holy fuck listen to my words, historical accuracy and clown skins are two separate things

bf1 isn't historically accurate

but it is historically immersive

[mortal raft]

The most ridiculous trailer skins never got into the game.
Trailer was bad for many reasons

[arctic grove]

those clown skins aren't immersive nor accurate

Even if BFV had the dreaded female variant of the human body, it still kept a consistent outfit style

So cool your shit

[spark acorn]

how come these skins went through lol

[sonic ibex]

no

[spark acorn]

no

[arctic grove]

no

[spark acorn]

totally wrong my guy

that's why BFV lost development support

[arctic grove]

both are very much connnected

especially in a ww2 shooter

[spark acorn]

^

[arctic grove]

however that was not the biggest problem with bfv

not even close

the biggest problem with bfv

at launch

was

the lack

[spark acorn]

content?

definitely

[arctic grove]

My point was never about what BFV did wrong, I agree the style itself was entirely out of place, but the cosmetics themselves all kept a somewhat grounded in reality appearance

of THE GARAND

nobody was wearing clown or pony skins

Imagine releasing a WW2 GAME

WITHOUT THE M1 GARAND

HOW

[spark acorn]

thats

like

[arctic grove]

that is such a bad decision holy shit

[spark acorn]

not a good reason

to say that the game failed at launch

[arctic grove]

that's like releasing a modern battlefield without rocket launchers

Great now I started another BFV debate

lol

that was just a disgrace

[sonic ibex]

korean war game without the m14

[mortal raft]

Yeah, apart from the burning skin the outfits weren't that ridiculous, just ugly

[spark acorn]

wtf is this burning skin i hear about

oh yes

[arctic grove]

not at all

[spark acorn]

dunmer

[mortal raft]

Just look it up, can't send images anyway

[arctic grove]

Well that is more subjective, but still yeah they all somewhat fit into the tone of the game

[spark acorn]

chimer

[arctic grove]

it's just the point that annoys me the most

[spark acorn]

to me

its the lack of content at launch

[arctic grove]

how do you even release a ww2 game without the m1 garand

[spark acorn]

terrible People's relations

[arctic grove]

like how

[spark acorn]

public relation's sorry

[arctic grove]

how is that even possible

[spark acorn]

and how the hype for the game went kinda 'eh'

[arctic grove]

The burning skin was also added super early on as I believe it was a pre order bonus, or some sort of promotional outfit, so I can let one slightly weird outfit slide

that shit is still hilarious

I just dont want 2042 to be like cold war

and have rambo

even if it is beating a dead horse

and clown skins

[spark acorn]

did anyone

even get anything from those editions?

[arctic grove]

the fact that ea said "don't buy it"

[spark acorn]

because I heard last time they didnt

[arctic grove]

and people literally didn't buy it lmao

[spark acorn]

that was the DICE CEO.

Not EA at all.

[arctic grove]

No it wasnt

whoever said it man

that shit was funny

that was Patrick Soderland

who got fired for it

[spark acorn]

the fuck?

thats exactly the DICE CEO 😆

[arctic grove]

I still laugh at that whenever I hear it

he also based the games identity on his daughters opinion of Fortnite

his daughter is 13

[spark acorn]

oh yeah ur right

[arctic grove]

btw

bruh

[spark acorn]

anyways he left to make his own BF

[arctic grove]

lmao

[mortal raft]

Nah, it came later in the game's lifecycle

[spark acorn]

thats what I heard last time about him

[mortal raft]

At least after the first year

[arctic grove]

No he was the Chief Design Officer of EA

so he was directly in charge of overseeing the design of all EA games

that explains a lot

[spark acorn]

It says on his page on wikipedia that his also a CEO of DICE before his departure...?

[arctic grove]

when the guy in charge of design wants the game to be like what a child thinks of fortnite

no wonder the game fails

lmao

[arctic grove]

hm I never heard of that, could be true

either way he's gone now

so I have hope

[spark acorn]

its on wikipedia omg

[arctic grove]

he is the reason BFV failed

[spark acorn]

Söderlund was also known for his tenure as CEO of DICE, a Swedish video game development company that created the Battlefield series of games, which was acquired by EA in 2006.[4][5][6] As of August 2016, he is reported to own approximately US$11 million of EA shares.[7]

[arctic grove]

yeh glad he's gone

[arctic grove]

Okay I really dont care that much

[spark acorn]

yeah

see

[arctic grove]

Why does it matter

dude is gone

[spark acorn]

because you told me he isn't a DICE CEO

[arctic grove]

so 2042 will probably be good

[spark acorn]

just stating the facts, that's all.

[arctic grove]

2042 might be good

but my biggest concern are hackers

[spark acorn]

we're waiting to see if thats true still

butttttttttt

i know its already good in my opinion

[arctic grove]

Mine is the lack of destruction they have shown

even V showed destruction in the trailer

the most lack of destruction was in bf1

it has all these corridors

and meat grinders

[spark acorn]

eh my biggest concerns are not having that many servers

[arctic grove]

hackers can ruin the game though

completely

[spark acorn]

not hackers

[arctic grove]

since the frostbite source code got leaked

[spark acorn]

'cheaters'

[arctic grove]

BF1 and V lacked destruction but that was mostly because the maps had a lot less buildings

[spark acorn]

they just use exploit tools they got online

[arctic grove]

see now they can make those exploit tools themselves

[spark acorn]

imagine wasting time

[halcyon hatch]

Ignore that

[spark acorn]

making an exploit tool to win a game

[arctic grove]

and the anti cheat probably can't keep up with it

Yeah the source code getting leaked is a big deal

since there would be so many

unless they use 3rd party AC

[spark acorn]

kinda a good thing tbh

[arctic grove]

what

are you

[spark acorn]

because EA is pretty dumb at protecting their cybersecurity shit

[arctic grove]

saying

[sonic ibex]

The sauce code already leaked

[arctic grove]

how is that a good thing

[spark acorn]

what im saying is

[arctic grove]

who are you planning on blowing up

at all

[halcyon hatch]

I agree cheating will be fucked anyways simply because of source code leaked regardless if they actually have a good anti cheat this time

[sonic ibex]

we prob already got cheats ready

[spark acorn]

it should teach EA at having a proper cybersecurity measure.

[arctic grove]

dice have been working on the game for so long dude

fuck ea

[spark acorn]

like a lesson being learned.

[arctic grove]

i dont care about ea

but dice does not deserve this shit

[halcyon hatch]

Activison

[spark acorn]

y do u hate EA?

[arctic grove]

They learned that months before they got fully hacked, and they ignored all the warnings

[spark acorn]

reasons?

[arctic grove]

ultimately dice suffers from it the most

[sonic ibex]

see literally everything they do

[arctic grove]

Why wouldn't you?

[spark acorn]

eh haven't heard the news about that

[arctic grove]

since they are making the game

[arctic grove]

greedy corporate company

[spark acorn]

oh i dont hate EA, i just dont really care about em

[spark acorn]

lol, like majority of companies in the world

thats life bro

[arctic grove]

i despise them

[halcyon hatch]

I don’t like EA but I don’t see a point in hating it if I’m hyping up and intending on purchasing their product

[arctic grove]

EA has done so many horrible things that I could probably write a book

[spark acorn]

^

[arctic grove]

legit

it's not even about the fact that they want to make money

[halcyon hatch]

Seems hypocritical honestly

[spark acorn]

yeah i understand that

[arctic grove]

but how they treat their employees

and how they fuck up studios

[spark acorn]

lol

[arctic grove]

there are plenty of publishers who don't do that and make money

EA Is the worst

[spark acorn]

DICE employees here are just reading the conversation

[halcyon hatch]

I haven’t heard of EA having workers right’s problems

Can you list some?

[copper fulcrum]

laughs in Ubisoft Studios still having Sexual Harassment Cases

[arctic grove]

google any of them

literally

[spark acorn]

nah

[halcyon hatch]

What should I type in

[spark acorn]

put one here

[arctic grove]

there are so many cases on the internet

[halcyon hatch]

“EA shit working conditions”

[arctic grove]

Yeah Ubisoft and Take Two are the other ones on my hate list

[halcyon hatch]

Is that good?

[arctic grove]

fuck them

[copper fulcrum]

Ubisoft is still not good with female workers

[spark acorn]

oof

[copper fulcrum]

Take-Two has a very, very weird way of taking things down

[arctic grove]

Ubisoft are creatively and morally bankrupt, they haven't had an original idea since 2008

[spark acorn]

please put down CDPR as one

[halcyon hatch]

Ok yep

[spark acorn]

please please please

[halcyon hatch]

Crunch times

[arctic grove]

EA actually isn't the worst

[halcyon hatch]

Underplayed workers

[arctic grove]

the worst by far is Nintendo

[spark acorn]

ofc not

[hazy vector]

at this point i'd wager any large publisher/dev with a "to big to touch" board of directors are shady as hell

[spark acorn]

yeah how tho?

[halcyon hatch]

Unsurprising but it’s definitely mild compare to other studios

[copper fulcrum]

Nintendo is okay as a game-maker but my God are they so out of touch and out of time

[arctic grove]

Nintendo is industrial revolution levels of garbage

[spark acorn]

hey rob

[copper fulcrum]

Speaking of Nintendo, here's R.O.B

[spark acorn]

still using that monkey profile pic from lion king huh?

[hazy vector]

hasn't changed in the past decade

[spark acorn]

good

because thats how i still recognize u, everyime u chat here

[arctic grove]

taking down youtubers that stream their games, forcefully trying to shut down any events concerning their games or just charge them so much that they have to shut down, charging some absurd money for very old games

[hazy vector]

it's even my profile pic on facebook, because i didn't care then and i don't care now

[arctic grove]

how is Nintendo not shit

[arctic grove]

Well first of all they aren't a publisher they are independent, and second of all I don't really hate them that much, to me they haven't done much wrong, I enjoyed cyberpunk despite it's flaws. The CEO is a fucking idiot who has no idea how to manage a company of that size, but they have done nothing even close to what Ubisoft, EA, and TakeTwo have done

EA is nowhere near as bad as Nintendo

[spark acorn]

when did I say their publishers lol

[arctic grove]

Well we were talking about publishers

sooo

[spark acorn]

and they sorta are, they have GOG, which they publish old games.

[halcyon hatch]

Nintendo has the worst public relations ethic out of any game developers it’s not even funny

[copper fulcrum]

glances at Hello Games

[arctic grove]

Hello Games is a good company

[arctic grove]

GOG is a retailer not a publisher

lol

Like legit

[copper fulcrum]

I know, I saying they better not fuck up

[spark acorn]

u sure, brb gotta check it again

[arctic grove]

but yeah fuck cdpr

[spark acorn]

yeah fuck CDPR indeed

[copper fulcrum]

B-B-B-BUT WITCHERINO TRES

[halcyon hatch]

What is CDPR again?

[spark acorn]

retailer/distrubitor, yeah yeah.

[spark acorn]

polish game dev company

[arctic grove]

what disgusts me the most about cyberpunk is the fact that they made back all of the money they spent on the game

that actually makes me hate them

[halcyon hatch]

Oh yeah they made cyberpunk right

[arctic grove]

and their fanboys

I mean, they did lie to their audience, but I don't really think that's on par with Ubisoft who condoned and encouraged sexual abused for decades

[spark acorn]

eh

[arctic grove]

the fact that they can put out whatever the fuck they want

and make money back

[arctic grove]

in the first week btw

[halcyon hatch]

Ok yes they are shit devs and pretty scummy for what they did regarding last gen consoles

[copper fulcrum]

Children Developing Public Rocks

[spark acorn]

^

[spark acorn]

yeah

they deserve that hack attack they had weeks after their game launch

good shit

[arctic grove]

Well no it's because they blew millions of dollars on marketing and deception, and they were extremely loved before making Cyberpunk, sorta like old Bethesda

they should not have earned a dime from cyberpunk

[halcyon hatch]

Wait I didnt even hear about this what’s the context?

[arctic grove]

but gamers are stupid

[spark acorn]

https://www.glassdoor.com.au/Reviews/Electronic-Arts-work-environment-Reviews-EI_IE1628.0,15_KH16,32.htm?countryRedirect=true

how did i get an EA reviews link LOL

[halcyon hatch]

Also yeah cyberpunk launch is why I won’t be getting bf-2042 pre ordered unless it’s like 1-2 days before launch

[spark acorn]

here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/02/09/cdpr-hacked-cyberpunk-2077-source-code-held-for-ransom/?sh=1e47a00b5435

[arctic grove]

91% approve of ceo? LMAO

bruh what

that shit is fake

glassdoor doesn't even verify employees lmfao

[spark acorn]

probably giving 5 stars at gun point LOL

[arctic grove]

"I love it when daddy wilson cuts my pay by 10% for his bonus increase"

anyone can pretend to be an employee of ea

andrew wilson looks like an evil vampire

he probably is one

fuck him

[spark acorn]

his aussie

which is cool

[halcyon hatch]

I don’t even think EA allows workers unions

I doubt they would have 91%

[arctic grove]

"Is this good for the player?"

everytime I hear andrew wilson talk I want to punch that mf

[hazy vector]

"ofcourse, because the playa is me"

[arctic grove]

If they had asked that question themselves at all within the past decade then they would be in a lot better spot rn

[hazy vector]

oh they ask, but they don;t care about the answer

[arctic grove]

well according to dear old Andrew they have been asking

who

he said that in an invterview

his 13 year old gamer daughter

andrew wilson

who plays fortnite?

ceo of ea

[spark acorn]

ceo of dice'

[arctic grove]

No I mean who has he been asking

[arctic grove]

Andrew Wilson is CEO of EA

[arctic grove]

EA

[halcyon hatch]

So not the guy with the daughter who plays fortnite

[arctic grove]

no

[halcyon hatch]

Ok

[spark acorn]

i thought we were talking about patrick soderland who talks about his 13 year old daughter

[halcyon hatch]

Who was that then

[arctic grove]

that was someone else yeah

[cursive vector]

Is this like...the official Battlefield server orr

[spark acorn]

you guys legit talked about that lol

[halcyon hatch]

Oh Patrick

[arctic grove]

patrick soderland

[halcyon hatch]

Yeah

[arctic grove]

yep

[spark acorn]

convo went weird because of these EA haters.

[arctic grove]

Bro they probably interview 5 year old fortnite gamers for info on their M rated shooter games

I hate EA yes

[spark acorn]

sounds about right

[arctic grove]

Always have and always will

Whoever made the trailer for BFV should never be allowed to make anything ever again

[halcyon hatch]

Why does it take so long for ratings to be confirmed

I mean look at the game for 1-2 days

[arctic grove]

yeah that guy was 50% responsible for the money ea lost

[halcyon hatch]

It’s pretty easy to see if COD is made for 18+ or 10 year olds

[arctic grove]

The other 50 was patrick soderland

and his daughter

fortnite gamer

[spark acorn]

EA gets those money back pretty quickly anyways

[halcyon hatch]

False it was me

[arctic grove]

that's not how stocks work

[spark acorn]

majority of their sheep buyers are on EA sports games like fifa and NBA shit

[halcyon hatch]

I personally ruined 50% of EA gains

[arctic grove]

they lost that all in shares

so it hurt them pretty bad

[spark acorn]

eh, i dont see them getting bankrupt do they?

[arctic grove]

no

2042 will probably be good because the stockholders bullied wilson after BFV

[halcyon hatch]

May be when the second Great Depression occurs

[arctic grove]

sports games exist

ea can never go bankrupt

[spark acorn]

the second great depression is the covid depression which exists today

[cursive vector]

I didn't think battlefield could get any better

[arctic grove]

because of the dumbasses who buy their sports games each year

[spark acorn]

yeah what i just said

[arctic grove]

glad you're enjoying it

have fun

[arctic grove]

You never know, throughout history, the people that seem at the top may actually be at the bottom in a matter of a few short years

[cursive vector]

Idk

[spark acorn]

yes, pokemon bad, Battlefield good.

[halcyon hatch]

The thing is that we are still technically bouncing back but post covid when everything fully opens up it will be incredibly weak plus the amount of money spent on relief packages will catch up fast

[cursive vector]

I'm having issues not dying

[spark acorn]

yes man, its gonna be a while though

[cursive vector]

Lol

[halcyon hatch]

American economic collapse in 3 years

[arctic grove]

that's standard

[spark acorn]

what

[arctic grove]

for someone that's new to battlefield

[spark acorn]

ur not dying? :/

[arctic grove]

Yeah most likely

or sooner

wait not dying

covid is going to destroy the economy

he's dying a lot

[cursive vector]

[arctic grove]

that's what hes saying

[halcyon hatch]

Yes

[arctic grove]

but it gets better

[halcyon hatch]

Anyways

[cursive vector]

These maps are freaking massive

[spark acorn]

hey, die faster 😠

[cursive vector]

Like huge

[halcyon hatch]

Should we shift the subject back to 2042?

[spark acorn]

because look mate

[arctic grove]

already has my dude

[spark acorn]

get on my level, im already dead

[arctic grove]

no halo combat evolved

[halcyon hatch]

Aight fair enough

[cursive vector]

I haven't seen 2042 trailer yet

[arctic grove]

try to move in cover you'll be fine

just stay away from tanks

[halcyon hatch]

Why

[arctic grove]

I mean in a bigger longer lasting way, a bit like the 2008 housing crisis except on a larger scale

[cursive vector]

No I mean I'm trying to be effective but idk what's the best zoom level for scope

[halcyon hatch]

40x

[arctic grove]

depends where the enemy is

[arctic grove]

what gun are you using

lol

[halcyon hatch]

Always 40x

Everyone else hates you for it but it’s good

[cursive vector]

Guess I'll just experiment

[arctic grove]

0.5 sensitivity

move like a rock

[cursive vector]

It's an assault rifle and so far the 3x scope works best for me

[spark acorn]

yo

who has preoredred da

BF2042 game

[halcyon hatch]

Then increase the sensitivity of your controller/mouse

[halcyon hatch]

Oh ARs

[arctic grove]

Haven't, and never will pre order another game after Mafia 3

[spark acorn]

fair enough

[halcyon hatch]

I like 4x for those

Or the 2x thermal ones

[late lark]

Thought about it, but passed

[arctic grove]

Unless its another mafia game

[late lark]

No point

[arctic grove]

Yeah pre ordering is stupid af

people should stop doing it

last game I pre ordered was battlefront 2 and well

we all know how that goes

[late lark]

oof

[arctic grove]

I only pre order mafia games because it's a tradition of mine since 2009

[halcyon hatch]

I enjoyed it personally

[arctic grove]

it's good now

at launch though......

[halcyon hatch]

Yeah but I’m saying at launch I found it fun

[arctic grove]

good for you

I did not

not in the slightest

[halcyon hatch]

Why did everyone dislike it atm?

[arctic grove]

Since 2042 and xbox are partnered, they should add master chief as a specialist

pay 2 win

lack of content

buggy as hell

shit campaign

shit mechanics like the squad system

[halcyon hatch]

Never had problems with the first or third ones that I could recall

[halcyon hatch]

Would be cool DLC

[arctic grove]

and it felt like an inferior star wars version of other battlefield games

[halcyon hatch]

but everyone would be upset about Xbox bias

[arctic grove]

I was mostly kidding even if I love Halo

would ruin the tone of 2042

[spark acorn]

Halo

[halcyon hatch]

Perhaps some very early Spartan armor version could go in tho

[spark acorn]

is too futuristic

[spark acorn]

yes

[arctic grove]

we shall see if the season pass doesn't do that already

[spark acorn]

its the skin from the ultimate edition 😆

[arctic grove]

Also talk about bias, look at GTA Online, the new consoles get direct exclusive car advantages while PC and XBONE/PS4 get fuck all, so its legit p2w for new gen

anyway

[halcyon hatch]

Passive abilities being superior health, active being personalized weapon

[late lark]

Pre Order already got that one near Halo skin

[halcyon hatch]

I don’t play GTA thankfully

[arctic grove]

hopefully

[halcyon hatch]

Only rockstar game I have is RDR2 online

[arctic grove]

Me neither, I'm just saying Rockstar fucking blows unless they are making SP stuff

idk how you could make a game as good as RDR2 and then somehow make such a hellscape as RDR2 Online

boggles my mind

[halcyon hatch]

Anyways i gtg

Gn

[arctic grove]

✌️

gn

[arctic grove]

lol yeah it kinda looks like it

[spark acorn]

bye

[spark acorn]

yeah see what i mean

[arctic grove]

I'm gonna go play the 1 game i fucking hate

battlefield 4

goodbye

[spark acorn]

im buying the gold edition 😄

[spark acorn]

enjoy

[arctic grove]

I hope 2042 has a modular vehicle damage system like infinite

[jade gust]

Hi guys when is the open beta?

[spark acorn]

no information yet

[arctic grove]

where pieces of the cars can be broken

[lost ridge]

Sept probably

[spark acorn]

possible release of open beta, next month.

[arctic grove]

seems a little soon

[spark acorn]

Maybe, but it doesn't make sense to release an open beta a month before release.

I'm basing this off of common sense.

[lost ridge]

Late august to early september?

[spark acorn]

Possibly.

[arctic grove]

Im guessing early september

[spark acorn]

BUT, only way to know is this upcoming EA Play Live.

[jade gust]

thank you hope its next month, so excited

[spark acorn]

enjoy

[arctic grove]

I liked the Bo3 beta and hated the game

so I'm not sure

might take it with a grain of salt

regarding 2042

but seriously BF2042's biggest competitor might be halo this year

COD isnt putting up much of a fight

got into a bf4 match and got killed by a guy in an attack chopper on a 105 killstreak

welp here I come bfv

[arctic grove]

I love BF4 for that exact reason

or titanfall

BF4 ignites a fire in you, it makes you feel something, its inbalances work towards it strengths, it forces you to get better

JUST LIKE THE LAST FUCKING HALO 1 MISSION HOLY FUCK

I HATE THIS

[hardy kestrel]

2042 bigger problem is the plethora of quality fps out there. There's just a ridiculous amount of competition out there. Dice even has to compete with its own library not to mention apex and battlefront 2

[jaunty hedge]

Does someone knows that if I preorder the 2042 on ps4 I will have an anticipated key or participate on the beta?

[hardy kestrel]

Beta will likely be open to everyone

[west grotto]

Hello!

[hardy kestrel]

Only about two months left before game goes gold

[jaunty hedge]

Thanks!

Will 2042 be cross platform?

[storm sentinel]

beta testing

[vocal mica]

hopefully i can get a ps5 before the beta

[storm sentinel]

for PS4 im afraid u cant play with 128players with ur friend on PS5 or even PC

[arctic grove]

Yes PC,PS5 and Xbox Series X can play together. And only PS4 and Xbox One can play together

[glossy magnet]

!when

[arctic grove]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[balmy gate]

When is the beta?

[grand barn]

spread to recoil conversion AKA random recoil AKA objectively terrible

[mossy creek]

Hey guys, was South African servers confirmed/denied yet?

[arctic grove]

Nobody knows

[arctic grove]

No

not confirmed or denied

nobody knows

Ayo is the playtest live or nah

[chilly patrol]

I was muted for 3 days finally

[severe hill]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdpEJrwY/

Manifest map destruction

Rio China boat drivers

[torpid shuttle]

Can I borrow time machine from anyboy? I just want to see what's going on next 4 days from this.

[spark acorn]

Yeah sure.

[severe hill]

Omni man you know what to do

[sudden otter]

around September

[tiny wharf]

!when

[spark acorn]

Nah.

[tiny wharf]

!when

[spark acorn]

??

[tiny wharf]

Guess the bot doesn’t like me

[spark acorn]

That command only works for server boosters/ regular members and DICE/mods here

[arctic grove]

is it possible to make a poll on 2042 forums?

[spark acorn]

yes.

[arctic grove]

where i cant find it

im blind

[spark acorn]

2042 forum

[arctic grove]

that doesnt help lol

[spark acorn]

yeah my mad :/

[exotic mica]

!when

[kindred condor]

3 days

[exotic mica]

Thanks

[arctic grove]

https://streamable.com/w5i3h0

[bleak nebula]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[spark acorn]

3 days, lets go!

[lost ridge]

lets fuckin go dude

[next onyx]

Good timing too

Since there's a lockdown In south aussie

[peak hill]

not good for me. I need to work to get a next gen console 😦

working at a food place with a mask.... yeah nah

[next onyx]

The gov should pay you

At least

But yee

Im at the gym going twice as hard

[peak hill]

good thing the launch is late october which gives me a good amount of time

I cancelled my gym to save up because it was getting a little over

[spark acorn]

Wait, you're in AUS?

[next onyx]

Yes

[spark acorn]

Nice to meet another Aussie.

[next onyx]

Check my roles!

[spark acorn]

Yeah I checked.

[next onyx]

Yeah likewise. It's kinda rare/uncommon

[spark acorn]

Bro this lockdown went out perfectly.

[next onyx]

Better than Sydney's

[spark acorn]

I wanted this week to just go quiet, and just have my lockdown days to just stay home and do nothing and wait for the BF2042 announcement.

[peak hill]

so how long is it anyways?

will it still be active at ea plays announcement?

[next onyx]

Either for a few days *unlikely) or two weeks

Ea will be unaffected

[spark acorn]

I heard the EA Play Live will go on for 50 minutes or so? I don't remember where I heard it from.

[peak hill]

Because I heard it was originally gonna end last week... haha yeaaaaaa

[next onyx]

Who knows. All we know is that itll start at 2:30 am for us lmao

[spark acorn]

On a Friday 🙄

[next onyx]

Not like we're doing much though

[spark acorn]

Yeah, what can we do if we're a day ahead.

3 months feels like it's miles away, but it's actually so soon.

[tepid crane]

🇸 🇪

[spark acorn]

[tame cobalt]

Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[spark acorn]

ratchet and clank

[iron blade]

I’ve been trying to get good at BF4 and it has actually made me think positively about Bf2042, as I was very skeptical about the setting and whatnot

Still hate the helicopters tho

[spark acorn]

You should honestly not be using BF4 as an example of BF2042's gameplay.

But yeah, thinking about the game positively in that way is good.

[lucid goblet]

!when

[iron blade]

Yeah, I’m just using it as a way to get good at modern shooters

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[lucid goblet]

[spark acorn]

Yeah 3 days bro.

Very much excited.

[iron blade]

Woooo

Hopefully it’s good

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-all-board-da-hype-train-hype-train-train-hype-gif-17722508

[spark acorn]

Should've gone with BF5 honestly.

[iron blade]

I wonder if it will be for hazard zone or that other gamemode

[spark acorn]

They're going to announce it there.

[iron blade]

Okie

[tame cobalt]

Bf5 good game

[iron blade]

Yeah, I’ve always been a hardcore historical shooter fan

[tame cobalt]

They will show the third experience

[iron blade]

I mean it’s alright, has its flaws, but it’s a good BF game

[topaz hazel]

I wonder if hazard zone will be similar to search and destroy

[iron blade]

Ehh idk

Maybe a tarkov type gamemode?

[spark acorn]

Not sure about that, but based on rumours more like EFT.

And apparently it's going to be their 'F2P' mode.

Speculations ofc.

[iron blade]

Yeah

[topaz hazel]

I wouldn’t want it to be like snd but you never know

[spark acorn]

If it turns out to be a free 2 play mode, i'd definitely get my mates to jump on the BF2042 hype.

[iron blade]

It would be cool to see some competitive game modes in BF2042 like the ones in CoD, but rush is a thing so idk

[topaz hazel]

Cheating tho

Have you guys seen the new hacks popping up

[iron blade]

Their anti cheat better be balls to the wall good, F2P games are always fucked with hackers

[topaz hazel]

Scary shit

[spark acorn]

I'm worried about cheaters as well, and they should address an anti cheat mechanic at EA Play Live for BF2042.

[iron blade]

I’ve read about it, haven’t come across it

[spark acorn]

What new hacks.

Also I have not experienced any hackers in BF5 in my 2 days of playing BF5.

Mb, not hackers. 'cheaters'.

[topaz hazel]

They fucking leaked the frostbite code

[iron blade]

Some new high tech hacks that are crazy good, can be used on any platform and they are hard to detect

[lost ridge]

They couldn't put anti-cheat in BFV even three years after release. Same with BF1. What makes you think DICE will add anti-cheat in 2042? They won't.

[topaz hazel]

I mean it looks like they got their head out of their ass

[iron blade]

I mean I’m scared about hackers because I’m going to be switching from console to Pc soon

[topaz hazel]

You never know

[lost ridge]

Why? Console will be the same as PC hardware-wise soon. People can't see the difference between 8k and 4k. Same with fps in a higher scale.

[spark acorn]

oof

[iron blade]

Well you can do more with a PC, like I want to play other games like Tarkov, TF2, modded MC, etc

[lost ridge]

Ah, fair point, then.

Console won't be able to do that

[onyx oar]

Promise me to not start Pc gaming with Tarkov lol. Unless you like the steep learning curve

[iron blade]

And I can do other things like photoshop, creating music, mods, and all that stuff

[iron blade]

I’ve heard tarkov will give you cancer, and I am willing to grind at a game, but idk

lol

[spark acorn]

'soon' like in 8 years or longer.

[onyx oar]

Honestly don't worry too much about hackers on pc. 9/10 times it's a hacker free experience. A few rotten eggs here and there but nothing to turn one away from pc gaming

[spark acorn]

Yeah.

Don't let the fear of cheaters ruin your chances of getting the game.

[onyx oar]

nah Tarkov is a horror game that can and will give you a heartattack on a daily basis

[spark acorn]

Also stay back on Console if you want, there is crossplay for the game anyways.

[onyx oar]

but it's fun 😄

[spark acorn]

Escape From Tarkov looks weird.

[arctic grove]

bfv pc is cheater paradise or did they fix that

[spark acorn]

Probably not fixed.

[near sentinel]

They should try easy anti cheat. Atleast it works very gud on fortnite

[spark acorn]

and on Halo: MCC.

[lost ridge]

Every game I join still has blatant cheaters.

[spark acorn]

Apex has it too, but its shit for some reason.

[median cloak]

apex has dogshit servers

[spark acorn]

fr

[arctic grove]

i have friends on each platform and crossplay lets me play with them. i really wish theyed make a way to avoid pc players

[iron blade]

Yeah, dice better make good anti cheat in bf42, because I don’t want gaynite to be better at smth than Bf

[near sentinel]

[lost ridge]

Fortnite bad

[median cloak]

Haha fortnite bad

[spark acorn]

yes

fortnite bad

[near sentinel]

Its fun

[lost ridge]

Minecraft good

Keanu chungus wholesome 100

[tribal wyvern]

mornin

[median cloak]

Tbh I get bored of Minecraft quick

[iron blade]

Yeah, like I was playing Apex a couple of days ago, and I had such a huge lag spike, that it looked like I was looking at a fucking PowerPoint slideshow

[tribal wyvern]

i dont' think that's server lag

[spark acorn]

Yeah, as soon as you get everything done.

[tribal wyvern]

i think that's more your pc lmao

[sudden otter]

then nxt month?

[spark acorn]

Is there any more reason to play mc?

[iron blade]

Eh idk, it showed the lag indicators

[spark acorn]

possibly.

[tribal wyvern]

it does that even when you're lagging with fps i think

[iron blade]

Until the cave update drops, there is no reason

[spark acorn]

makes no sense to release an open beta a month before the game's release.

[tribal wyvern]

bruh no

[tribal wyvern]

well they have to

[median cloak]

Yeah this kid I would play ranked with had the worst luck with the servers, he wouldn’t even load in until halfway through the match

[spark acorn]

explain

[tribal wyvern]

they delayed the technical playtest to august

how can they have a closed playtest under nda the same month as the open ebta?

makes no sense

[spark acorn]

then they can squish in their open beta around late august lol

[tribal wyvern]

no, it has to be in september

[spark acorn]

we'll see.

[tribal wyvern]

you can't have a closed alpha and jump to open beta in the same month

[iron blade]

Yeah back in the day I had such shitty internet that I would lag out of a game like 7 times per hour, it was painful AF

[spark acorn]

maybe there could be? we dont know lemon.

[tribal wyvern]

we don't know but it's highly unrealistic to expect it to be in august

[spark acorn]

Oh I really hope its August though.

[bleak nebula]

playtest with thousands of people under nda , oof

[median cloak]

Will alpha be restricted to a certain console ?

[tribal wyvern]

alpha is not public

[topaz hazel]

What is open beta like? I’m a noob at this stuff srry

[iron blade]

Eee when will the bf2042 beta drop

[spark acorn]

there is no alpha for anybody to play on, except for like few individuals.

[tribal wyvern]

it's a beta free for everyone to try until it expires

[spark acorn]

basically you can play the almost complete demo BF2042.

[median cloak]

I’ve never played a alpha for a game before so I have no clue what I’m talking about

[tribal wyvern]

so why ask?

[topaz hazel]

Will it be like an un-textured demo or an actual demo?

[spark acorn]

actual demo

like free for anyone1 to play

[tribal wyvern]

alphas are typically restricted to trusted individuals and people who participate sign an NDA

[topaz hazel]

Oh dang

[spark acorn]

i played the last 2 demos for BF1 and BFV

[median cloak]

Guess I’ll stick to open beta

[tribal wyvern]

if there's a game with an alpha that the public can access it's either cod or it's a non triple a game

[bleak nebula]

technical playtest is going to have quite a lot of people under nda

[spark acorn]

they pretty much play out like the full game except that they give you a few weapons to unlock, and certain maps to play. @topaz hazel

so we'll probably expect like 1 or 2 maps to play on 2042 based from my experience from playing previous open betas.

[median cloak]

I knew a guy who’s actually got to play test it

[spark acorn]

sheesh, few thousand.

[jolly goblet]

Some idiots want bloated customization system from cod

[topaz hazel]

That seems pretty cool

[bleak nebula]

yeah, so not only a few famous streamers/youtubers

[topaz hazel]

Will they confirm date on July 22nd?

[spark acorn]

hey guess what, i'm one of em 😉

[jolly goblet]

Like wtf, you want to get 200 kills for an small attachment

[spark acorn]

MAYBE.

[delicate hollow]

we dont know

[median cloak]

I just wanna see more operators

[spark acorn]

the grind is real

[jolly goblet]

Mw customization system is just fucking overrated

[spark acorn]

yeah, we'll definitely see new ops this upcoming 22nd of july

[spark acorn]

dumb.

[median cloak]

😃

[jolly goblet]

Yea it looks cool, but it only plays a little bit different

Do you really need 20 optics, 5 different supressors, 5 same statically stocks for one gun

[delicate hollow]

yes

[median cloak]

No

This isn’t warzone

[jolly goblet]

Fuck that shit

[tribal wyvern]

yes

[median cloak]

Honestly

[tribal wyvern]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[jolly goblet]

One reddot, one holo, one acog, one 3x and one thermal

[tribal wyvern]

3 days until we get a beta date

[lost ridge]

Attachments look cool

[tribal wyvern]

spec requirements

anre more

[lost ridge]

And you can make new guns

[jolly goblet]

Thats already enough

[tribal wyvern]

obviously i doubt my i5-2500 will run this shit

but i wanna know if my i5-10400f will

[shy rapids]

4 days until EA play...

[tribal wyvern]

cuz i'm gettin it this october/black friday/xmas (still don't know somewhere around there)

[spark acorn]

10400f gang gang

[bleak nebula]

since playtest moved back, wouldn't be surprised if they confirmed beta date at gamescom in august instead

[spark acorn]

oh dude, it will obviously run it.

[tribal wyvern]

are you saying that cuz you own it too or because you're confident it'll run?

[shy rapids]

I'm pretty sure it would be in September if it was going to be in August...

[spark acorn]

1080p resolution at best.

[tribal wyvern]

it better be optimized for six cores lmao

[median cloak]

Will my series x run it ?

[spark acorn]

both really.

[tribal wyvern]

that's not cpu dependent tho????

that's gpu dependent

1080p is all i need anyway

[spark acorn]

no games out there hasn't even gotten used to 8 cores yet.

[arctic grove]

Will i be able to make 5 people multikills with a random ass sniper i picked up from a dead guys body in battlefield 2042 like i was able to do in bfv

[jolly goblet]

Thats a fucking loe

[tribal wyvern]

there's even 12 cores

[spark acorn]

so our 6 core, 12 thread CPU will be a perfect fit @tribal wyvern

[next onyx]

We'll probably get a date for the beta, But who knows. Just let time flow for the info to drop

[median cloak]

I think I already know the answer but I just need to check with you smart people

[tribal wyvern]

i mean there's quad core modern cpu's like the i3-10100 i think anyways

[spark acorn]

Those are so overkill for gaming, they're usage is for rendering, editing, etc.

[shy rapids]

I don't know lol

[tribal wyvern]

have you heard of the threadripper?

64 cores 128 threads?

[jolly goblet]

Games has been utilizing 8 cores since 2011

[spark acorn]

AMDs most powerful CPUs out there? yeah.

[shy rapids]

What's above 8?

[spark acorn]

AMD Threadripper 3990x is an absolute beast.

[tribal wyvern]

it's got the same number of player limit as past battlefields as cores and same number of player limit as bf 2042 as threads lmao

[spark acorn]

DrDisrespect the streamer owns 1.

[tribal wyvern]

who tf buys it? that's overkill even for rendering

[arctic grove]

What about fao fortress is there fao fortress

[jolly goblet]

Games use all cores, but there's one thing called ipc

[spark acorn]

they're rich, they can afford it lol.

[shy rapids]

What's that?

[tribal wyvern]

ipc?

what is ipc?

[spark acorn]

bruh, BF1 map.

Do you not know?

[shy rapids]

Imagine if gunplay is like BF4...

[next onyx]

I mean that's like saying the 30 series are overkill

[arctic grove]

😬

[tribal wyvern]

it won't be

[spark acorn]

No way.

[peak hill]

64 cores, 128 threads
64 cores, 128 threads

wait... could it be? thread ripping predicted bf2042 the entire time?

[arctic grove]

I'd be happy

He doesnt know fao

[tribal wyvern]

someoen analyzed teh gameplay trailer when they shoot stuff

[shy rapids]

I don't play BF1

[jolly goblet]

Ipc is the bottleneck which limit games from ultilizing cpu cores

[tribal wyvern]

it'll be like bf5 or mw 2019

[spark acorn]

They're sorta are for 1080p.

[tribal wyvern]

bullets GO WHERE YOU'RE AIMING

[spark acorn]

For 1440p, yeah perfectly fine. Even 4k resolution.

[shy rapids]

I would destroy the game

[tribal wyvern]

cuz they are

[next onyx]

But you know where i'm coming from

[tribal wyvern]

they're like at 30% usage max

you can't push them above that

[spark acorn]

Actually I don't lol.

[arctic grove]

Its hamada with water and boats

[shy rapids]

What if they add RBD still?

[arctic grove]

MW19 has good animations but bad gunplay

[median cloak]

Is it normal to not know a single thing about components like you guys do ?

[spark acorn]

????????

[tribal wyvern]

the hell is rbd?

[slim quiver]

that is entirely false

[tribal wyvern]

well everyone's a newbie

[next onyx]

Oh i mean, You buy the top stuff and you're basically set for the next few years

[spark acorn]

Nah, it's really good.

[jolly goblet]

Random bullet deviation

[shy rapids]

Something for bullet spread

[tribal wyvern]

i heard that's the case on 4k dlss with warzone and shit

[next onyx]

Be Zy and buy a 1080 TI, That'll last you for years.

[jolly goblet]

Stupid shit

[slim quiver]

30% usage is not true at all

[shy rapids]

You spelled best gunplay in the world wrong

[next onyx]

The 30 series will last you the same time

[tribal wyvern]

@median cloak do you know your specs?

[arctic grove]

I mean yeah if your running a game from like 2008 that doesn't know how to properly use your computer

[spark acorn]

Yeah they're still fine. even GTX 970 Ti as well.

[jolly goblet]

Actually it was dogshit

[next onyx]

Zy showed me the way of the 1080

[shy rapids]

If theirs bullet spread in the game... that would suck

[arctic grove]

If theres no random clips and no fao fortress its not worth playing 🤷

[next onyx]

I will never stray from that

[slim quiver]

i have a 3090 FTW3 and BF1 alone pushes the card at 60% load

[jolly goblet]

20hz combination with terrible netcods

[tribal wyvern]

idk i haven't seen 100% usage with an rtx 3000 card on a game yet

[shy rapids]

Nope, it was the best

[tribal wyvern]

that's still terribly low

[median cloak]

I play on a series X and I have no clue

[next onyx]

Until it becomes wholly outdated but for someone like me, It'll be what i need.

[arctic grove]

eh the TTK and ballistics could use some major improvements

[jolly goblet]

In ground war the netcods was fucked

[median cloak]

I’m a newbie to this stuff

[tribal wyvern]

are you gonna buy it for your series x?

or pc?

[median cloak]

already did

[tribal wyvern]

oh then dw

[arctic grove]

the bullets also seem static and don't penetrate that many objects

[tribal wyvern]

the game is optimized for consoles like the series x already

[slim quiver]

heres me playing an indie title

[shy rapids]

The sounds are great, the shooting is really good, and it's way better then BF4, which I don't know why Battlefields still have bullet spread in them

[tribal wyvern]

it'll play as if you're on a beast pc

[tribal wyvern]

is that beyond the wire?

[slim quiver]

yes

[bleak nebula]

Microsoft Flight Simulator would like to have a word

[tribal wyvern]

also WHAT

[shy rapids]

Yeah... have you been playing the game a lot?

[tribal wyvern]

96% usage in beyond teh wire?

[slim quiver]

with 96% GPU utilization

[tribal wyvern]

nah that's bullshit

[arctic grove]

Why would you not want bullet spread

[median cloak]

Thank you for the reassurance

[tribal wyvern]

that's a faulty countetr how tf

[slim quiver]

how is that bullshit?

[next onyx]

Fuck that's a beefy as fuck game Zy

[arctic grove]

laser guns?

[tribal wyvern]

the game is not even graphically intense

[slim quiver]

its not a faulty counter

[tribal wyvern]

how the hell is the usage so high with an rtx card?!

[slim quiver]

the game is horribly unoptimized

[shy rapids]

Why would you want it? To miss your targets and die?

[jolly goblet]

You're vsyncing

[slim quiver]

and i was running the game above 200 fps

[slim quiver]

no im not

[tribal wyvern]

and cpu is so low

[jolly goblet]

You're vsyncing the game

[tribal wyvern]

what in the fuck

[next onyx]

Ahhhh, See how well your pc can handle Crysis then

[arctic grove]

so that all the guns in the game don't feel like death lasers

[tribal wyvern]

bruh these types of games are cpu bound

[slim quiver]

im not vysincing the game

[tribal wyvern]

how tf is the gpu being the most used here

[arctic grove]

every game with good gunplay has bullet spread

[slim quiver]

vsync is off

[shy rapids]

Well MW19 doesn't have it and the guns are fine

[arctic grove]

every single one

[slim quiver]

my frames were also left uncapped

[tribal wyvern]

zzzy you got some black magic going on my guy

[jolly goblet]

If you unlocked the game, the cpu would be ways higher

[next onyx]

Bf5 has really good gunplay, Even if spread doesn't increase it's definitely there.

[arctic grove]

MW19 has bullet spread

[median cloak]

The game needs to have bullet spread

[spark acorn]

yeah, nothing unique about all guns in MW, they all sound the same.

[median cloak]

Is that even a question?

[tribal wyvern]

bf 2042?

[jolly goblet]

200fps would put intensw pressure on the cpu

[median cloak]

Yea

[tribal wyvern]

have you played bf4? the gunplay with bullet spread is absolutely atrocious

[next onyx]

What i wouldn't mind is a base spread that wouldn't increase in due of fire and suppression

[tribal wyvern]

it needs to have bf5's gunplay