battlefield-2042

[lavish shadow]

so dice better get the optimization right

[tribal wyvern]

ain't so sure

[worldly star]

man the rx580 was such a nice card for the price

[sullen badge]

Only if you're on a potato

[tribal wyvern]

i always saw this name as Lemon64k

[lavish shadow]

well, it should make a difference everywhere, techhnically speaking

[tribal wyvern]

i don't wanna change it

[lavish shadow]

but yeah

[tribal wyvern]

but actually

[arctic grove]

64 to 128 will increase cpu usage heavily

[tribal wyvern]

i might

[lavish shadow]

potatos get the worst of it

[tribal wyvern]

wanna know the origins of this name guys?

[lavish shadow]

a fuck ton

127 realtime player animations

synced over the internet

and over the frying pc

[tribal wyvern]

this name actually comes from my old ps3 psn name (which i still rock in bf4)

[arctic grove]

Hopefully there is 64 player lobbies/game modes

[worldly star]

the map size alone will do this

[tribal wyvern]

named zeke-zero42k

[arctic grove]

They are still smaller than firestorm

[lavish shadow]

im sure there will be :3 they would need to since not everyone has good pcs

[tribal wyvern]

me and my brother thought it would be funny to name our steam account Lemon

[lavish shadow]

halvoy best map

[arctic grove]

I'm just hoping my i5 9400f can handle the increased players, bfv already runs at a high cpu usage

[tribal wyvern]

so we got a lemon as pfp

[lavish shadow]

oo im sure it will

[tribal wyvern]

changed the number to 64 and kept the k

and so Lemon64k was born

[lavish shadow]

if ur on last gen u can keep ur name

[tribal wyvern]

i changed the number when switching from console exclusively to pc

[lavish shadow]

[arctic grove]

Thanks

[tribal wyvern]

soooo maybe when switching from low range to high range pc i could change it too

Lemon128k sounds very weird tho

[worldly star]

my 7640x hits 100% cpu usage on discord sometimes

[tribal wyvern]

i'm not sure if i shoudl change it

[sullen badge]

As far as i'm concerned 90% of the people in here are playing battlefield on two potatoes hooked up with some copper wire and lemon juice

[hard breach]

ඞ

[arctic grove]

Question, do you have an ssd (For game storage)

[tribal wyvern]

yes

[worldly star]

how much space

[tribal wyvern]

40 gb currently

[lavish shadow]

ps3 username: lemon24k
ps4 username: lemon64k
ps5 username: lemon128k
pc username: lemon∞k

[worldly star]

i mean over all

[tribal wyvern]

reason why is company of heroes 3 pre alpha, company of heroes 2, hell let loose and bf1 and bf5 are weighing on it right now

so it's kind of choking lmao

[lavish shadow]

i use floppy disk

[tribal wyvern]

500

[arctic grove]

Oh I thought you only have a 40gb ssd lol

[sullen badge]

Don't lie

[tribal wyvern]

but the os is installed in it

so a big chunk of space is taken

[worldly star]

youll have to uninstall a few games but youll be able to store bf2042 with no issues

[arctic grove]

I replaced my loud hdd with ssds, man it is so quiet and fast

[worldly star]

get rid of bf1 and 5 and youll be good

[sullen badge]

@tribal wyvern Get a M.2 compatible mobo and m.2 ssd (which are fairly cheap) and put your OS on that

you'll thank me later

[lavish shadow]

wait so does BF ban u for using win11

[worldly star]

he cant afford that

[lavish shadow]

i heard some games ban

[sullen badge]

m.2's are cheap

[arctic grove]

I have no idea as I'm not upgrading to windows 11 anytime soon

[sullen badge]

and his mobo is probably compatible

[lavish shadow]

u can get 1tb m.2 spending ~$100

[sullen badge]

if hes upgrading

[tribal wyvern]

i don't think an upgrade to m.2 is that necessary

[arctic grove]

What's so big about windows 11 when you can do everything except direct storage on windows 10

[tribal wyvern]

i saw comparisons

[arctic grove]

True

[tribal wyvern]

it's like what, 10-20 seconds difference?

[lavish shadow]

idk something new

[tribal wyvern]

ain't worth the extra price really

[worldly star]

if you have a quality sata ssd theres no point

[arctic grove]

Nah like 5-10

[tribal wyvern]

i assume it's quality

it works fine texture streaming wise

[worldly star]

what is it

[tribal wyvern]

and os loads hella fast

[lavish shadow]

m.2 is just faster tho than sata

[arctic grove]

I have a sata for my os and 2 m.2s for my games

[lavish shadow]

i mean technically

[tribal wyvern]

i need to pull up speccy hold on lmao

[tribal wyvern]

yes but by very little

[sullen badge]

Why the hell

would you sata your os

[lavish shadow]

i mean unless u got a really really good sata

[sullen badge]

and not m.2

[tribal wyvern]

cuz i wasn't the one that chose the ssd man

[lavish shadow]

fuck it, just use ur RAM as ur storage
fastest

[tribal wyvern]

it was my brother

[sullen badge]

thats the stupidest thing i've heard today

[arctic grove]

The ssds came later

[lavish shadow]

use ur CPU cache as memory

[tribal wyvern]

idk maybe there is no m.2 support for my current mobo

[sullen badge]

ah

[worldly star]

if you have a sata ssd dont bother upgrading to m.2 unless youre going with pcie gen4

[sullen badge]

makes sense

[tribal wyvern]

holy shit pcie gen 4 exists?

oh no

don't tell me even my beast setup i'll upgrade to won't be enough soon..............

[worldly star]

yes but its very expensive rn

[arctic grove]

It was originally, 1 ssd for os and a hard drive, then I replaced the hard drive (over time) with 2 ssds

[sullen badge]

i was like is this guy intentionally running an os off sata

for fun

[tribal wyvern]

oh thank god

what is so wrong with sata?

the os loads so much fucking faster than befoer

[worldly star]

a 2tb m.2 is like 450$ for gen 4

[sullen badge]

nothing is wrong with sata

[tribal wyvern]

DAMN BOY

that's more expensive than the entire setup y'all told me to put together

[worldly star]

200 or so for 1 tb

[arctic grove]

He thought I did it on purpose compared to m.2

[tawny remnant]

any one can help with IT's omen gof-tag please

[arctic grove]

What i plan to do is get a 1tb ssd to replace my 500gb and then reinstall windows on it

[tribal wyvern]

it's the samsung one

[worldly star]

samsung evo

wow

thats good

[tribal wyvern]

it is?

yeahhhhh

it did cost a ton

like 100 bucks i think?

[worldly star]

one of the better ones you can get

[arctic grove]

Samsungs are always more expensive and better

[mighty sigil]

how would you reinstall windows, Im looking to get an ssd as well

[tribal wyvern]

yeah

their phones are the opposite tho

[worldly star]

they also last like forever

[tribal wyvern]

they're too expensive for what they offer lmao

[tribal wyvern]

damn my brother knows how to pick his shit then!

[midnight whale]

This is off topic

[arctic grove]

You can clone or just use a usb stick to reinstall once you remove the ssd with the os on it, I'm not an expert though

[arctic grove]

Kind of late for that

[tribal wyvern]

mods joined hte convo countless times dw lmao

and i mean

[worldly star]

were helping lemon upgrade for 2042

[midnight whale]

Then they will be removed

[worldly star]

its pretty on topic

[tribal wyvern]

this whole build is to help upgrade for 2042

according to my calculations i'd reach 240 bucks on xmas

like dead on xmas

this year

[arctic grove]

We've been talking about pc parts for the last 30 minutes

[tribal wyvern]

it's after bf 2042's launch sure

but that'd be when i'd upgrade

so like what, two months of bf 2042 on this pc?

[worldly star]

do you have a pre order?

[tribal wyvern]

yes and i ain't cancelling it

[worldly star]

oh rip

[tribal wyvern]

if it has to run at a locked 30 until i get my upgrade IT WILL

[arctic grove]

You could've added 60 bucks to your 240

[worldly star]

30 aint bad if its all you got

[worldly star]

this is a really good point @tribal wyvern

[sullen badge]

I have 2 M.2's (1 1Tb for storage, the other like 230gb for my OS), 1 ssd on sata, 2 -2tb HDD's and 1 2tb external hdd

[tribal wyvern]

no 240 is how much i'm paying because from next saturday which is when i get my allowance all the way to xmas this year is how much i end up with

[sullen badge]

internal drives on sata

[tribal wyvern]

10 bucks per saturday

[arctic grove]

That's a lot of drives

[tribal wyvern]

by spendning none of the moneyi earn from the allowance on xmas i have reached 240 bucks

[sullen badge]

i think im close to capacity for my drive slots

[tribal wyvern]

which makes my fmaily pay 128

[sullen badge]

i cant remember

[tribal wyvern]

but like they always pay aroudn that number anyway for xmas gifts

[worldly star]

my new pc is not gonna have a single hdd

[arctic grove]

Yeah once you do that, you'll never go back

[sullen badge]

HDD's are far cheaper for bulk storage

like far far cheaper

[arctic grove]

Yeah, but most people don't store enough

[worldly star]

what am i storing in bulk huh

[slender rose]

I have an m.2 to boot and a hdd for storage

[worldly star]

i play games on this thing and thats all

[sullen badge]

This

[arctic grove]

Ssds are going to be required in like 2 years for every game because of the new consoles

[slender rose]

it’s like the speed of an m.2 with the storage and price of an hdd

[sullen badge]

i use a m.2 for OS/boot and have everything else on a drive

[slender rose]

only bad thing is that it takes a while for stuff to download

[worldly star]

until you have to move a large file lmao

[sullen badge]

including routing all my documents and windows folders to the hdd

[slender rose]

yeah….

[sullen badge]

You don't have that issue with correct routing

do some google

[tribal wyvern]

2 months of locked 30

of bf 2042

[slender rose]

loading and booting is fast but downloading is slow

[arctic grove]

Nah just go to 720p 60

[slender rose]

Actually I think that’s my internet nvm

[arctic grove]

Ethernet for the win

[tribal wyvern]

that won't help my cpu bottleneck lmao

that'll worsen it

[arctic grove]

True, nvm

[tribal wyvern]

what if i go 1440p with dsr???'

maybe that'll help lmao

[arctic grove]

What fps do you get in bfv

[tribal wyvern]

1080p 100% resolution scale i get like 45-60

[sullen badge]

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz, 16.0 GB RAM

is my cpu

[arctic grove]

Wow that's a huge cpu bottleneck

[tribal wyvern]

no shit

[arctic grove]

Just didn't realize the scale, sorry if that sounded blunt

[tribal wyvern]

yeah

this cpu was a beast throughout the years but

it's starting to show it's age

so sad

this was the king of budget cpu's back in 2019

and in only two years it's now compelte trash and is choking

[arctic grove]

2019 is only 2 years ago, it wasn't

[worldly star]

well in 2019 games were being built for the base xbox one

[tribal wyvern]

ye it was every "budget pc build" had it and it all worked fine

[arctic grove]

[Applying Hazmat Suit On]

[worldly star]

so there wasnt much cpu they could utilize

[tribal wyvern]

so in only 2 years

[arctic grove]

Back then the ryzen 5 2600 was the king, right?

[tribal wyvern]

the cpu went in the shitter

[worldly star]

so budget cpus were very viable

now, not so much

[arctic grove]

[Hazmat suit Equipped]

[sullen badge]

@tribal wyvern Also don't bin your old parts, Part resellers will buy them to strip the components

[arctic grove]

Wait, no the best budget cpu was the ryzen line or the i5 9th gen

[sullen badge]

just ebay em

or something similar

[arctic grove]

Alright now I can observe #battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

This channel is pretty calm right now

[worldly star]

were just talking about upgrading for the new game

[arctic grove]

We are mainly talking about pc parts

Taking safety precautions

[worldly star]

nothing really going on

[arctic grove]

Also sweeet

[Removes Helmet]

[arctic grove]

Let me change that: Battlefield 2042 is going to be the worst game in the series (joke btw)

[sullen badge]

Can u not m8

[arctic grove]

well yeah when you invest in a "godly budget pc" It will last a lot less than a "godly high end pc"

[worldly star]

i think itll become the new best

[tribal wyvern]

i won't sell em

[arctic grove]

@jolly lintel

[worldly star]

yeah dont

[tribal wyvern]

my father would tho

but what'd he earn?

50 bucks?

[sullen badge]

@arctic grove Your B looks like a backwards E

[tribal wyvern]

my old 1050 was sold for 60 bucks lmao

[arctic grove]

i5 2600k wasn't the budget cpu in 2019, more like 2015/16

[tribal wyvern]

this build i was recommended tho

it's cheap

but it's VERY strong it seems

like this is new tech

[worldly star]

if smth goes wrong, and you have to get a replacement part, you could just swap back to your old stuff @tribal wyvern

[lofty shore]

[tribal wyvern]

yeah

i'm keepin the mobo and the cpu as memories

and ram

[arctic grove]

Frame the motherboard

[jolly lintel]

Yah?

[tribal wyvern]

if i learnt anything from watching people roast tf out of the verge's pc building when i build the pc i need to put everything i can onto the motherboard before i put it inside my case right?

also

the power supply, which is 600 watts

[arctic grove]

I've seen people do this on their wall, put it in the picture frame

[tribal wyvern]

IS ENOUGH right?

[worldly star]

my current pc is my first one that me and my dad built together lol, so i dont really want to do anything to it. i wanna just build a new one and keep this as a special sorta thing

[sullen badge]

@tribal wyvern Can probably reuse the ram until you start having issues

[arctic grove]

Depends on the brand

[tribal wyvern]

the ram's ddr3

[arctic grove]

Nope

[tribal wyvern]

arena something

[arctic grove]

you mean aresgame?

[sullen badge]

@tribal wyvern also put your parts in pcpartpicker and check them for compatibility if you want to be 100% sure on the wattage of the PSU

don't fuck that up

or you're gonna have a bad time

[tribal wyvern]

no

[arctic grove]

Exactly

[worldly star]

the cpu only takes 65w

[arctic grove]

Also I would recommend upgrading the psu if its some cheapo brand, you don't want it to catch on fire, especially if its not a true 600w

[sullen badge]

Oh yeah

you need atleast silver or gold

not bronze

[arctic grove]

No bronze is fine

Don't go silver

[sullen badge]

No it's really not

[worldly star]

@tribal wyvern your psu will be fine

[arctic grove]

Most people agree that bronze is enough

[tribal wyvern]

you sure?

you don'0t know the bran

[arctic grove]

Unless you have like a 3080 and a overclocked i9

[worldly star]

the new cpu requires less power than your current one

[arctic grove]

We can't guarantee it will be fine

[worldly star]

if your current build is fine, your new one should be too

[sullen badge]

I've had two bronze PSU's shit themselves and one blow up @arctic grove on stock non OC'd parts

[worldly star]

but the mobo might have issues

ill look into it

[arctic grove]

What brand?

[tribal wyvern]

i found it!!!

[sullen badge]

Corsair and other reputable brands

[tribal wyvern]

it's called chieftec iarena 600s

[arctic grove]

Replace it

[tribal wyvern]

oh cool

[arctic grove]

Its trash

[tribal wyvern]

but what about the ram?

it'll be ddr4 at a faster speed

doesn't that require more power>?

[sullen badge]

No it's not

[worldly star]

thats true

[sullen badge]

I don't use Bronze anymore either

[arctic grove]

Its a no name brand with no reputation behind it, a new power supply is 40 bucks

[sullen badge]

You're joking right

Corsair is a no name brand

[arctic grove]

Nope

[sullen badge]

with no rep

Ok.jpg

[arctic grove]

I'm talking to lemon

[sullen badge]

Lmao

[arctic grove]

Look at what he said

[sullen badge]

You replied to me

[arctic grove]

Oh sorry

I'm talking about the chieftec iarena 600s

Corsair is a good brand

[sullen badge]

Check yourself before you shrek yourself next time bro

[arctic grove]

What are you talking about your text was right under his picture, I replied to you accidently

[tribal wyvern]

i'm doing pc part picker

[fiery solar]

it was a misinput

[tribal wyvern]

to check for compatibility

[sullen badge]

Lmao it's fine

[tribal wyvern]

it can't find GIGABYTE B460M DS3H V2

but it finds GIGABYTE B460M DS3H

[delicate hollow]

It's not fine

[tribal wyvern]

like non v2

does htis change anything?

[delicate hollow]

Replying to the wrong person is punishable by death

[tribal wyvern]

is it called v2 on amazon jsut cuz it's the second revision or something?

[sullen badge]

Probably because V2 supercedes non V2

SO you won't find the original

[tribal wyvern]

this is all it finds

like the one you guys gave me IS v2

but pcpartpicker can't find v2

with or without the compatibility filter

[fiery solar]

3070 fit with https://asrock.com/MB/Intel/B365 Phantom Gaming 4/index.asp ?

[sullen badge]

The one you have selected probably is the V2

they just dont list it as V2

[tribal wyvern]

the one that doesn't have v2 in the name?

[sullen badge]

Yes

[tribal wyvern]

ok

i'll add that then

[worldly star]

first one

[potent matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEAVEECh-1E

I'm afraid

[sullen badge]

Besides non V2 and V2 won't have drastic differences in power draw

probably just a change of ports

[arctic grove]

Don't be

[sullen badge]

etc

No Ice Mango

[potent matrix]

[sullen badge]

now is not the time

for watermelons

[bleak nebula]

technical playtest was delayed to test crossplay

[arctic grove]

I wouldn't trust a chieftec iarena 600s, sorry. It probably doesn't even have a warranty

[worldly brook]

Here’s the thing, if battlefield 2042 goes to shit, then we can just go back battlefield 3 and 4

[potent matrix]

Yeah Which probably wasn't there in the first place

[sullen badge]

This

[bleak nebula]

yes

[worldly star]

not the same

[arctic grove]

Difference is: one is 60 bucks, the other is 5

[proven torrent]

hmm your pfp is quite reassuring /s

[delicate hollow]

Don't trust him

He tries to argue with redundant points

[sullen badge]

yo guys

[delicate hollow]

Yo

[sullen badge]

🧊 🥭

@bleak nebula

[delicate hollow]

Wack

[sullen badge]

ikr

[delicate hollow]

Poor mango getting a random pong

[bleak nebula]

[arctic grove]

I think this battlefield will be pretty fun, but I'm waiting for the beta before I preorder

[worldly star]

i already pre ordered ultimate edition

[arctic grove]

Cool

[worldly star]

my bank caught it as fraudulent when i did it lmao

[arctic grove]

Lucky

[delicate hollow]

Mood

My bank hit my pre order as well

[arctic grove]

Damn how

[worldly star]

it was 110$

[delicate hollow]

It's a random 110 dollar charge

[worldly star]

and i bought other games with it so it was actually 155

[arctic grove]

Just curious what games?

[worldly star]

re2 and zero hour

[arctic grove]

Oh cool

Ellooo

[tribal wyvern]

bruh

[minor helm]

Sab

[tribal wyvern]

the setup y'all give me costs less in euros than dollars

[arctic grove]

ello ello, what popping guys?

[tribal wyvern]

this is great

i did pc part picker

added all my shit

[worldly star]

@tribal wyvern glad we could help

[arctic grove]

Bruh

[tribal wyvern]

insultingly enough my exact power supply and monitor were not included

i had to fill in extremely similar models for that

my power supply i chose oen from the same brand that is also 600 watts

it just didn't have the same name or look, but it seems the specs are the same

and my monitor i chose t22a350 rather than t22a300

my monitor is a monitor tv

it's a pretty big but not too big 1080p screen that looks great

and it works for me

seems no compatibility issues

[arctic grove]

If you can, as you are unplugging the power connectors anyway to get a new power supply with a warranty

Because doing them later is a pain

[tribal wyvern]

what?

i didn't understand that sentence

[arctic grove]

To remove a motherboard, you have to remove the power connectors from the power supply

[tribal wyvern]

yes and?

[arctic grove]

While you are doing that it may be worth it to replace the psu

[tribal wyvern]

why?

if it works with all the new parts why bother?

[arctic grove]

Warranty

[tribal wyvern]

pfffffttt

[arctic grove]

Better reliablity

Not a no name brand

[tribal wyvern]

have you not figured out yet this pc is a pre built from 2011????

that warranty is long gone on the psu

[upper viper]

Lemon bro how tf you always here 💀

[arctic grove]

I wouldn't trust my pc with this power supply

Especially as its old

[tribal wyvern]

well this pc has had it for over 10 years

[arctic grove]

Exactly

[tribal wyvern]

and it has no compatibility issues

[arctic grove]

Its getting old

[tribal wyvern]

so why replace it?????

it adds more to the price man

[arctic grove]

Its getting old, new warranty, better reliability, can support better graphics cards

As that psu is not a true 600w probably

Most cheap power supplies lie about their power limits

And (at least in america) its cheap to upgrade

[tribal wyvern]

i'm not so sure man...........

it'd just add more to the price

[royal trail]

[delicate hollow]

Alot of psu do lie

[arctic grove]

Ok, but just know you do want to upgrade your psu in the future

[tribal wyvern]

what psu would you recommend

also when the psu fails

[arctic grove]

Any evga bronze at least

[tribal wyvern]

it won't fuck over the rest of my components will it>?

my pc will just not turn on when the psu fails

[delicate hollow]

It can

[arctic grove]

It can

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Bronze-Modular-Warranty-110-BQ-0600-K1/dp/B01MTJTO2O/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1CLFXCE4FPHW9&dchild=1&keywords=evga+semi+modular+power+supply&qid=1626546812&sprefix=evga+sem%2Caps%2C188&sr=8-1

This is good

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Modular-Warranty-Supply-210-GQ-0650-V1/dp/B017HA3SQ8/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1CLFXCE4FPHW9&dchild=1&keywords=evga+semi+modular+power+supply&qid=1626546841&sprefix=evga+sem%2Caps%2C188&sr=8-2

[royal trail]

check out psu tier lists and pick some 80plus gold

[arctic grove]

In america this is on sale

[royal trail]

at a high tier

[tribal wyvern]

how's this?

[arctic grove]

Yes

That's going to be better than your current psu with a good warranty

[tribal wyvern]

that's +58 to the price

that just makes my fmaily pay more

remember i won't go past 240 with my allowance by xmas

[arctic grove]

Yeah but do you want to buy a new cpu when your psu fails?

[tribal wyvern]

the objective is to get these components as xmas gifts where i pay 240 euros of it and the rest is what my family pays

[tribal wyvern]

oh god no

[arctic grove]

I mean its up to you, but a bad psu is a no go for me

I rather a good psu than upgrading your cpu

Both are good though

[tribal wyvern]

idk man

that makesi t jump up to 426

[arctic grove]

Ok, then don't get it, but just know that your psu is getting old and it is need of an upgrade, say goodbye to all future gpu upgrades until you replace your psu (even though I know it wouldn't happen right away anyway)

[tribal wyvern]

@worldly star thoughts?

new psu, yay or nay?

budget wise it's +58

which makes the total price jump up to 426

[arctic grove]

Just think of it this way, you know you have to upgrade, either do it know or later

[worldly star]

if you refund your preorder thatll pay for the psu

[tribal wyvern]

that makes my family's payment go from 128 to 186

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[tribal wyvern]

i won't

hecks no

[arctic grove]

A good psu will make sure that you can play battlefield 2042

Instead of possibly shocking your components

[tribal wyvern]

that's a fucking horror story holy fuck

[arctic grove]

Is your pc plugged into a surge protector?

[tribal wyvern]

into a what?

[arctic grove]

A surge protector a long wall plug extension

[tribal wyvern]

idk what that is and idk if i have it

[arctic grove]

That protects whatever is plugged in from surges from electricity

You need to get one proto

s

[twin marlin]

speaking of PCs anyone know why one might freeze entirely when bumping desk with knee, pc is on desk

[arctic grove]

@tribal wyvern https://www.amazon.com/GE-Protector-Outlets-Extension-37442/dp/B079RKX5ZL/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=surge+protector&qid=1626547184&sr=8-5

[tribal wyvern]

when you bumpb your desk with your fucking knee something in your pc is bound to fuck up

[arctic grove]

Something may be loose in your pc, check your gpu

[twin marlin]

lightly

[tribal wyvern]

if you got your pc on your desk and you smack the table with your hand it happens too

[twin marlin]

yes

not every time

[tribal wyvern]

that's why mine is in a metal cage of sorts connected to my desk lmao

it's pretty cool hwo this desk got this metal case tho

[twin marlin]

ive tried reseating ram cpu and hdds

[tribal wyvern]

oh that?

[arctic grove]

Yes, that's a surge protector

[tribal wyvern]

i think i got that

it's under my desk

[twin marlin]

Oh btw yall if any of you are canadian gpus are in stock at CC

[tribal wyvern]

with a red switch

it's similar to the one you sent

[arctic grove]

Yep thats a surge protector

[tribal wyvern]

just differnet plugs (cuz different country) and the switch is illuminated when it's turned on

so i do have it yes

[arctic grove]

Cool, because if you didn't have one. Lets just say lightning hits a power line, sends a surge of electricity to your house, you have no surge protector, and your psu has no protection, your parts can get fried. So good, at least you have that.

[tribal wyvern]

that happened once

my parts didn't get fried

my ethernet thing did

the reason why is the surge of electricity went to my router

[arctic grove]

Surge protector helped

[tribal wyvern]

and so everything that was connected with ethernet was fried

my ps4 was fried

and so i replaced the parts of that

my monitor's hdmi was fried

replaced that

and my pc's ethernet card or network adapter or whatever was fried

replaced that

but like my pc's parts were fine

[arctic grove]

That's why every electronic should be connected to a surge protector if you can.

Well time to go watch some netflix, see ya guys

[tribal wyvern]

so my psu is fine then

if it's connected to a surge protector

[arctic grove]

No

But at least you have protection

Also bad psus can send their own surges of power, which can fry components

I didn't watch this all the way but this may answer some questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M5yTrzdcxY

[tribal wyvern]

https://www.chieftec.eu/products-detail/142/IARENA_SERIES/157/GPC-600S

this is the details for my psu

read them, see if there's anything wrong or sus about it

[arctic grove]

First off its not certified bronze, which is a no no

[tribal wyvern]

and why is that?

[arctic grove]

Power efficiency

You want at least a bronze

Gold if you can afford it (but not a must, I have a bronze)

[tribal wyvern]

well i mean

186 for the fmaily to pay

and 240 for me is fair right?

the family pays 128 if i don't get the psu

but they pay 186 if i do

[arctic grove]

I guess, its really up to you

[tribal wyvern]

like i'm paying more than half the price of all the components combinedf

they're paying less than half

it's more fair to them than half and half innit

[arctic grove]

Yeah, I do that with my mom all of the time

We go half on a bunch of tech

Lol

[tribal wyvern]

hey uh

so i did pc part picker again

and it says estimated wattage

with my gpu and all the shit i need to buy

is 149

[arctic grove]

Yeah

[tribal wyvern]

my gpu at 100% drawas 150 watts alone

that's 300 watts

that's only half of my psu

so like do i still need a new one?

[arctic grove]

You never want to go to the max

I have a 500w and I only use like 280-300

[tribal wyvern]

yeah but like

[arctic grove]

You want to keep a buffer

[tribal wyvern]

is this ok?

[arctic grove]

Yeah that's normal

[tribal wyvern]

or do i still want the one you recommended?

[tribal wyvern]

so i don't require a new psu?

[arctic grove]

The wattage isn't the reason why you are upgrading, you are upgrading for reliablility and for your components

[arctic grove]

You still want a new one

[worldly star]

yeah id go for a new one if you can but if you cant, then dont

[odd fox]

@arctic grove Overclock it till the psu catches fire ill give you 200cdn

[arctic grove]

I rather a 500w evga than a cheapo 600w

[tribal wyvern]

ok

[tribal wyvern]

idk if i can or not

[arctic grove]

I don't have an overclockable cpu

[tribal wyvern]

the one he recommended adds 58 to the overall price

this makes my family pay 186 rather than 128

although i still pay the same

even then, i still pay more than half the setup

they pay less than half

so is this fair for both of us?

[odd fox]

3070 ryzen 7 3700x 800w i think 800 is overkill

the 3700x is like 65w

[arctic grove]

Also lemon the higher the wattage, the quieter the psu

As it doesn't use as much power compared to its rating

[odd fox]

Just go overkill

for future proofing

[arctic grove]

He's on a budget

Really tight budget

[odd fox]

ahhh

[arctic grove]

Just look through the chat history to get a rundown

[odd fox]

Whats he working with

[arctic grove]

i5 2600k 1070ti

[worldly star]

10 euros a week

and his set up is not great

[arctic grove]

We advised him on what to upgrade to, etc. It's been a long convo

[odd fox]

i think the gpu would get him the most would it not

He can also flip it right now

[arctic grove]

No

He isn't trying to sell lol

[worldly star]

thats his only gpu lmao

[odd fox]

Ahh ok so thats what he wants

[arctic grove]

He's not trying to upgrade his gpu

He's upgrading his cpu/mobo/ram/psu (possibly)

[worldly star]

hes upgrading cpu, mobo, and ram

[odd fox]

mobo is meh

[worldly star]

?????

he HAS to

[arctic grove]

He is upgrading to the 10th intel

Its necessary

[odd fox]

oh hes going big huh

[arctic grove]

He literally has a i5 2600k, he has to lol

[odd fox]

yeah that cpu is kinda hurting

[worldly star]

i5 10400f i think is what hes going for

[arctic grove]

We basically have the same gpu (ish, give or take 5-10 frames), he gets 40-60 on bfv, I get 120, the cpu is a huge bottleneck

[odd fox]

i got scammed got a 3700x then little while later a 5800x drops feels bad

[royal trail]

you should all just advice him to wait for some beta benches before making up his mind so he doesnt stand there with newly bought hardware that still doesnt do it. that would be such a waste of money

[arctic grove]

The cpu we gave him is the the best budget, nothing will change

[worldly star]

a 10th gen 6 core cpu is going to work on bf2042 lmao

[odd fox]

Whats he aimming for frame wise?

[arctic grove]

The game isn't going to require a i7 11th gen

[arctic grove]

Over 30fps lol

[worldly star]

1080p 60

i would hope at least

[odd fox]

i kick myself everyday for not getting a 5800x 3080 😦

hope bf6 is optimized 😦

[worldly star]

i think im gonna wait for the 4080

[odd fox]

i got a 3070 cant change now not worth it

[arctic grove]

"Oh I'm so mad that I couldn't get a 3080, I have a 3070, hard life." They are both really good

[royal trail]

ima wait for 4070

[odd fox]

3070 vs 3080 in perfomance is a lot

[arctic grove]

They are both pretty good

[odd fox]

3080 is more future proof

[worldly star]

the fact that people cant even get a chance to purchase either should be enough for you to be happy lmao

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[odd fox]

i mean you can just gotta pay 1.5k

[worldly star]

if i had to settle for a 3070 bc it was in stock, i would not complain

[arctic grove]

Me neither

A 3070 is great

[worldly star]

"oh no i will have to upgrade in 4 or 5 years instead of 6"

[arctic grove]

"Oh no, I can't play at 1440p 144fps, I play at 1440p 130"

[royal trail]

i found a used computer with rtx 3090 and ryzen 9 5950x for 4000euro. thats good right?

[arctic grove]

Don't know, do a pc part picker

[worldly star]

85 fps in 4k instead of 100????? unacceptable

[arctic grove]

Throw away the computer at that point, unbearable

[odd fox]

Who tf is playing in 4k?

[worldly star]

my 4k monitor is 60hz so i cant see the difference but im gonna complain anyway

[arctic grove]

If i can't get 240 fps in every game what's the point of playing games, am I right

[odd fox]

on any comp game?

[royal trail]

some people here sell the rtx 3090 for that price alone, and that cpu is another grand

[arctic grove]

I'm talking normal prices

[odd fox]

This is a poor persons mindset

you always settle for less youll get less.

[arctic grove]

No, I'm talking value here

Getting a 5-15% increase for 50% cost (3080 vs 3090) isn't worth it

[worldly star]

hey guys getting your moneys worth is a poor persons mindset

who knew

[odd fox]

3090 isnt for gaming..

[royal trail]

shibe, we're all financially independent. didnt you know?

[odd fox]

[royal trail]

lol

[worldly star]

what is it for then

[odd fox]

editting

[arctic grove]

Productivity

Editing, 3d rendering

[worldly star]

fucking no thats quadros

try again

[odd fox]

not a single soul is like ahhh 3090 yes! let me game on that!

[worldly star]

it was advertised for 8k gaming

thats what it does lmao

[arctic grove]

No, for the mid tier, quadros are for people in the industry, but if you are a youtuber or do mid tier editing, you don't need a quadro

[odd fox]

better go buy that 15k monitor

[royal trail]

if u want to game at 4k 120hz its a good card

[worldly star]

you talked about future proofing

[odd fox]

https://www.amazon.ca/Sony-Array-Smart-Android-Vision/dp/B084KQLVF8/ref=asc_df_B084KQLVF8/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459413513424&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14089085867004871260&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000135&hvtargid=pla-944038203328&psc=1

[worldly star]

3090 is just that

[odd fox]

you can use that with ur 3090

[worldly star]

yeah

you can

[arctic grove]

Not really

The 3090 can't do 8k yet

[worldly star]

wait no you cant

[arctic grove]

Unless you are running lighter games

[worldly star]

it probably doesnt have display port

[worldly star]

in games with dlss it can i think

but only with dlss on

[arctic grove]

I rather 4k no dlss, than 8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyZbArP-Y2w

[worldly star]

me too

[royal trail]

they marketed the 3090 as the 8k gaming card

lol

[tribal wyvern]

who me?

60 or more

[odd fox]

yeah you sir

[worldly star]

yeah but apparently its not a gaming card

[odd fox]

i wouldnt build a pc till we know the specs needed for bf6

[royal trail]

lol

[arctic grove]

It isn'tvalue wise

[arctic grove]

He won't be able to until after anyway

[worldly star]

but thats what it was made for

[arctic grove]

No it wasn't, that's the 3080

A 3080 to 3090 is only 10% increase in performance for double the cost

[odd fox]

if its gonna run on a xbox one i think he will be ok

[arctic grove]

64 players

[tribal wyvern]

i mean i'm buying these components 2 months after the game even releases so like

i'm nto really building a pc from scratch

[quiet dew]

if i preorder 2042 for Xox One will i be able to upgrade to Series X ?

[tribal wyvern]

it's more of a very severe upgrade

[arctic grove]

Don't know

[tribal wyvern]

like the only thigns changing are the mobo, cpu, cpu cooler, ram and psu

that's what's changing

[worldly star]

the 3090 was made to make 8k gaming possible

[arctic grove]

Its possible at 30fps

[tribal wyvern]

i did pc part picker one last time

[worldly star]

hey they never said it was good

[tribal wyvern]

the psu i was recommended is compatible

no compatibility issues

[worldly star]

they said it was possible

[tribal wyvern]

not even with the case

[arctic grove]

Yeah I agree

3090 is the foot in the door, but it isn't far in

[worldly star]

the 3090 is doing what the quadro cards are doing

[glass temple]

for me 2k more then enough

[odd fox]

i watched a 8k video just to see and my pc is dying rn

83% cpu usage on a video

[royal trail]

lemme see my cpu usage

[worldly star]

just showing that it can be done and making this tech a thing and to hopefully make it more affordable

[arctic grove]

True

[odd fox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5xsklNoQv8&ab_channel=MattiHaapoja @royal trail

lol

see if it nukes ur pc

[tribal wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAqXMVn-lZM this is very very fucking impressive

[worldly star]

on a 1080p monitor, no i cant see the difference

[tribal wyvern]

on such an unoptimized game as warzone

my soon to be cpu+gpu combo is going to go up to more than 120 fps on warzone

[arctic grove]

Warzone is so unoptimized

[tribal wyvern]

ikr?!

and with the cpu you guys recommended

plus my gpu

it'll go over 120

if battlefield 2042 is optimized imagine the fucking frames!!!!!!!!!!!

[royal trail]

25-35% cpu usage at 8k streaming, and i have a ton of other stuff open

[tribal wyvern]

i might buy a 120hz or 144hz monitor in the future holy shit

[odd fox]

warzone is actual shit

they didnt even try and optimize it

[worldly star]

go for 144 and stick to 27 inches and 1080p

thatll get you the best price

[arctic grove]

The game crashes every time alt tab or use my other monitor, cpu usage is 100% in the lobby

[royal trail]

so 8k streaming on youtube is heavier than running bf5 at 60fps

[tribal wyvern]

weirdly enough witcher 3 runs at 75 fps with this combo????

[arctic grove]

Dual 24 > 27 inches

[tribal wyvern]

is witcher 3 unoptimized or smth?

how is warzone that is unoptimized as fuck run worse than the witcher 3?

[odd fox]

I have high hopes for bf6 being optimized

[worldly star]

no its just very demanding

[tribal wyvern]

sus

[tribal wyvern]

THAT demanding?

bro cyberpunk runs at 35 with this

lmao

[odd fox]

That cpu is nice though if its what ur upgrading youll have a good time

[tribal wyvern]

shows how fucking dogshit optimized cyberpunk is

because with my current setup it runs at 40

[worldly star]

yeah thats on the gpu

[odd fox]

youll be future proofed for a bit if you dont mind 60 fps

[tribal wyvern]

with a stronger cpu it runs less lmao

[arctic grove]

Benchmarks vary greatly btw

[worldly star]

the game is so unstable

[arctic grove]

Not true, its because benchmarks change

[worldly star]

you cant trust benchmarks for it

[arctic grove]

Cyberpunk fps changes its not reliable

[tribal wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LeBKLYq8UM

[odd fox]

Cyberpunk is another awful optimized game

[tribal wyvern]

bro seriously

[pearl bobcat]

im legit living in a battlefield world rn

[tribal wyvern]

either i get a 120hz monitor in the future

[pearl bobcat]

got a tornado warning

literally 2042

[tribal wyvern]

or when i'm streaming to my 120hz phone? it's gonna be a hell of a treat on every game

[arctic grove]

144hz

Not 120

[worldly star]

lemon you gotta contain your excitement

[royal trail]

do you live in an active warzone tho?

[worldly star]

120 is more expensive than 144

[odd fox]

snag a 144 on black friday

[tribal wyvern]

gta 5 is so unoptimized it runs at 60 with this combo

[arctic grove]

Make sure its ips

[odd fox]

with a 1070 ti and that cpu youll be fine

[arctic grove]

Eh gta 5 runs well

[tribal wyvern]

or maybe the guy who benchmarked it is an idiot and left the advanced settings to max and turned grass to ultra (those are frame killers)

[arctic grove]

Yeah msaa is the kiler

[tribal wyvern]

no not msaa

[odd fox]

i got my second 165hz ips for 110 cdn

[glass temple]

GTA 5 need nvidia dlss

[tribal wyvern]

the grass quality and the advanced settings

[arctic grove]

True

[worldly star]

maybe with the enhanced version

[tribal wyvern]

it doesn't even have dx12 how do you expect it to have dlss lmao

[tribal wyvern]

enhanced version is exclusively for consoles

on pc there'll be no change

[worldly star]

nope

[glass temple]

enhanced version like shibe said

[tribal wyvern]

this was confirmed by support

[worldly star]

its coming to pc

[arctic grove]

No its coming to pc right

[glass temple]

it will come to pc after 1 year lemon

[tribal wyvern]

no it isn't, they confirmed it

on pc it'll be just an update

[worldly star]

maybe itll be an update

but they wouldnt shoot themselves in the foot like that

[tribal wyvern]

the engine doesn't change btw

so dx12 cannot be in it

[glass temple]

gta v ps5 will be bttr lot then now

[worldly star]

we dont know what theyre doing to the game

[tribal wyvern]

this is rockstar we're tlaking about man

they've been shooting themselves in the foot for how many years now?

rdr 2 was just one pause

then it kept going

[worldly star]

enhanced edition is actually just them giving online mode servers

[tribal wyvern]

lmao

[worldly star]

instead of peer to peer

[arctic grove]

I think your right lemon

Honestly gta 5 online on pc is filled with modders

[glass temple]

wht gta need to be great again is map expension 🙂

[tribal wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_uq5NlvGKI OOOOOOOOH NOW HTIS IS INTERESTING

[arctic grove]

No just gta 6

[tribal wyvern]

considering how badly optimized rdr 2 on pc is this'll be interesting

[gloomy heron]

Жестко

[arctic grove]

Rdr2 is well optimized

[worldly star]

need the gta series to die

[tribal wyvern]

60 frames?????

[glass temple]

bester gta 6 not before 2024

[tribal wyvern]

that's it????

damn it really is unoptimized

[glass temple]

so just wasting time to wait it

[worldly star]

idc about gta 6

[arctic grove]

You realize that single player games don't run at 100fps right?

[worldly star]

give me manhunt 3

[tribal wyvern]

oh i know that

but the game struggles on like every setup

[arctic grove]

It doesn't

[tribal wyvern]

i remember the pc launch being chaos

did they fix it or smth?

[arctic grove]

60fps is the standard for single player games, if you hit it, you are good

[tribal wyvern]

anyways i'm not that dissapointed

[arctic grove]

I run at a locked 60fps rdr2

[tribal wyvern]

i already got rdr 2 on ps4

and alrdy finished it

[arctic grove]

That's 30fps

[tribal wyvern]

locked 30 on rdr 2 is a lot smoother than people think

[worldly star]

@tribal wyvern you have a 60hz monitor

[tribal wyvern]

yes i do

[arctic grove]

Why are you acting like 60fps is bad?

[worldly star]

you wont be able to see the higher framerates

[tribal wyvern]

if i owned rdr 2 on pc and with this combo it ran at 60 i wouldn't have been dissapointed

[tribal wyvern]

i would feel them

but not see them

[worldly star]

you wont

[arctic grove]

Not really

[tribal wyvern]

yeah

lower latency

[arctic grove]

In multiplayer

Not single player

[tribal wyvern]

if it goes past your monitor's refresh rate you usually feel less latencyt

[tame cobalt]

[arctic grove]

Also I had a 60hz and I didn't notice a difference in locked 60fps and unlocked

[tribal wyvern]

i find this to be true since locked 60 on games i easily go over 60 definetely feels a bit more latency

idk it just feels smoother despite it being 60hz

maybe it's a placebo?????

[arctic grove]

You won't notice in single player games

[tribal wyvern]

yeah

but i don't play many singleplayer games

i already finished rdr 2 and i don't own it on pc

and gta 5 what's the point in playing sp?

i finished that tiwce

on ps3 and ps4

why finish it on pc again?

i just find it boring

[arctic grove]

60fps, mods

[tribal wyvern]

meh, only mod i seem to be interested in is the vr one

then again how much will that last?

[worldly star]

can a 2060 hold up in 1440p

[arctic grove]

Lamborghinis, porsches, graphics mods, etc

[tribal wyvern]

oh shit i forgot about that

still a 100 gb download just for sp is a bit stupid ngl

[arctic grove]

depends on the games and settings

[arctic grove]

Depends

[tribal wyvern]

especially when i need to put it on my ssd or the loading times are killer

[arctic grove]

if all you want to do is hit 1440p 60

you’ll be fine

1440p 144 is going to be difficult unless you’re on all low

[worldly star]

yeah just 1440p 60 is what i want

[arctic grove]

yeah you’ll be fine

[arctic grove]

Should last

[worldly star]

epic

[arctic grove]

Until 2-3 years from now

[worldly star]

ill go for a 144hz monitor anyways so i dont have to buy another when i upgrade the gpu

[tribal wyvern]

OH COMEO N

[arctic grove]

When games are next gen only, a lot of pcs will have to play on lower resolution/settings

[tribal wyvern]

THE BF5 BENCHMARK IS SP AND NOT MP

still 135 fps on bf5 sp

[arctic grove]

Cool but not accurate at all

I get like 144fps in single player on bf1 and 80 in game because of cpu usage

I play basically every game on ultra unless it’s like esports

[worldly star]

wow the 2060 is kinda a beast in 1440p wow

looking at benchmarks and im impressed

[tribal wyvern]

YOOOOO

with a 1660 ti but the i5-10400f bf5 mp gets 195 fps

[worldly star]

i wonder if it can handle 2042

[tribal wyvern]

damn imagine with my card

that'd be even HIGHER

[arctic grove]

Where are you seeing this?

That sound a little too high

[tribal wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZiBHnNzicQ

[arctic grove]

I doubt it can do near 200

[tribal wyvern]

oh that was on low

[arctic grove]

He probably used a tweak, it doesn't go that high

[tribal wyvern]

damn 100 fps drop on ultra?

tf?

[arctic grove]

even in low

[worldly star]

i think recommended specs for 2042 will be around the 1660 for gpu and like a 8th gen i5

[arctic grove]

it’s ultra

I have a i5 9400f and a 1660 super and I get like 120 fps on low and 100fps on ultra

[tribal wyvern]

around 105 fps with ultra

like i said

this is with a weaker pgu

gpu

so with mine it'd go higher than 105

say like 115-120 maybe

[arctic grove]

I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and an RX 6700XT and I get like 140-170 on ultra misty

[arctic grove]

1660 ti and 1070ti are pretty close

[tribal wyvern]

1070 ti is closer to a stock 1080

[arctic grove]

Also he was in a lobby with NO people that changes fps

[tribal wyvern]

oh

[arctic grove]

yeah wtf lmao

[tribal wyvern]

damn then it runs that bad?

it'd run at 60 with a full server maybe?

[arctic grove]

People drops fps by like 50ish

if I was in a lobby with no people I’d be 170+ on ultra all the time

[tribal wyvern]

that is so weird

and people say bf5 isn't unoptimized

[arctic grove]

Cpu usage

[tribal wyvern]

jeez

[arctic grove]

It’s peope

[arctic grove]

Its optimized its just logic, more people = more cpu usage

There are actions going off all over the map

of course FPS will drop

[tribal wyvern]

yes but if bf 2042 isn't more optimized than bf5 doesn't this mean i'd have issues running 2042 even with these specs?

[arctic grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI70SVDZ4sg&t=376s @tribal wyvern They are the same card basically by 5 frames

Except in forza

And battlefield is 10, but they aren't that far apart

[tribal wyvern]

the specs y'all gave me

the whole setup

it'll be perfectly fine for 2042 at 1080p right?

[arctic grove]

Yeah

[worldly star]

yes for sure

[tribal wyvern]

ok good

[arctic grove]

With those specs you are more powerful than most people's pc

[tribal wyvern]

max settings 1080p with nvidia reflex and dx12 abby

[arctic grove]

I get the same FPS on 1080p vs 1440p lol, CPU bottleneck

[tribal wyvern]

there's no way they fuck up dx12 in battlefield three times in a row

[arctic grove]

No, not max settings

[tribal wyvern]

firs ttime was bf1

then was bf5

hopefully it actually does its job in bf 2042

[worldly star]

maybe max settings

[arctic grove]

DX12 is fine in BFV for me

Same with BF1

Also I never play battlefield on ultra, I prefer fps

[tribal wyvern]

cuz dx12 when implemented correctly increases gpu usage and runs a lot better

[worldly star]

but id go for mid high if i were you lemon @tribal wyvern

[tribal wyvern]

dependso n settings

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[tribal wyvern]

like any unneccesary stuff

like chromatic abberation, film grain and that crap?

i turn it off

motion blur i turn off

really just extra stuff that has no impact on graphics i turn it off

ambient occlusion is one example

[worldly star]

motion blur makes the game look nicer if used in small amounts i think

[tribal wyvern]

it just adds a few shades of black to corners i saw comparisons lmao

[worldly star]

only at 60 fps

[arctic grove]

Especially single player

But not multiplayer

[worldly star]

if youre at 120, just turn it off

[arctic grove]

144hz > motion blur

[worldly star]

yeah its a disadvantage in mp

[arctic grove]

Lemon!

Hi

[tribal wyvern]

higher than 60hz has a VERY SLIGHT motion blur effect

[arctic grove]

Same way ultra is, ultra has way more grass while low has none, meaning that hiding in the grass is unseen by ultra

[hardy kestrel]

there's a direct correlation between the amount/intensity of graphic effects you have turned on and KDR. All the pros turn as many of them on as high as they can

[tribal wyvern]

in my experience on my 120hz phone

60hz has no blur and is more choppy

[worldly star]

its just smoother