battlefield-2042

[rain narwhal]

So rainbow 6 siege

[odd fox]

last gen was so bad idk how or why they are releasing it on old consoles @arctic grove

[simple linden]

theres still a lot of people running last gen consoles

its a huge market

[brittle forge]

A way larger version but sure

[arctic grove]

Agreed im glad console is getting tactical shooters in next gen.

[odd fox]

yeah you rem bo3 on ps3 lol

[narrow rose]

I’m here for it close quarters 2.0

[odd fox]

it would drop to 12 frames

[simple linden]

not really, i dont own any consoles

but im guessing it ran like ass

[plain drift]

A dubai map would be nice

[arctic grove]

There is a ps5 shortage i did my pre order in october.

[vale quarry]

https://youtu.be/pmDmE0AssaU

[arctic grove]

still has not arrived

[simple linden]

well, you got a map in qatar, its basically the same

[odd fox]

i know but its just gonna hurt people to pay 79.99cdn for a game to have it just run at 19 frames and freeze 247

[arctic grove]

Last year october.

[plain drift]

Yh put imagine grappling to the burj khalifa

[ruby crystal]

If I have an Xbox one s and I buy the Xbox series x version will I be able to have cross play with pc?

[odd fox]

Maybe itll have the best optimization ever

[plain drift]

and conquering towers

So many good shit can be done for Conquest

[arctic grove]

No they ran out in an hour in my country.

[plain drift]

Like take over a whole tower

and all of a sudden you see 50 dudes shooting the fuck outta you

all those rage

[arctic grove]

Yes its set to arrrive next month

I did get 20% off

[civic mason]

Series x

[narrow rose]

That would be pretty dope maybe like 3 multi-floor buildings you have to secure each level to capture the building

[plain drift]

Yh

[neon portal]

ranger stuff

[plain drift]

like you seen the elevator in the cgi trailer right

Damm the devs need to add this

otherwise no point of grappling hooks

and ziplines

I mean you can snipe people

and be cool I guess

[worldly star]

it wont run

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/rendezook-jet-f35-battlefield-2042-gif-21906564

[ruby crystal]

Thank you!

[brittle forge]

Just beat CoD’s 80s Action Heroes at their own game and make a full-scale Nakotomi Plaza building

[stark nacelle]

Glad to hear Cross Progression

[swift sentinel]

Battlefield 2042 will include cross-play, cross-progression?

[stark nacelle]

Read the blog post

[swift sentinel]

on what?

[lucid goblet]

Yes

[lucid goblet]

Check #game-news for the latest blog post.

[swift sentinel]

ty

[plain drift]

No

[lucid goblet]

Tech alpha is taking place in august, so discount ANYTHING you read from "leakers" etc https://twitter.com/PartWelsh/status/1415326090839707652?s=20

Freeman 🏳️‍🌈 (@PartWelsh)

🟢 CROSSPLAY 🔵

We're testing it as a part of the Closed Technical Playtest, now happening in August.

PC, Xbox Series S|X, PlayStation 5 can all play together (with opt out for PC and Console folks)

Xbox One and PlayStation 4 players can also play together on 64 Players https://t.co/nlerZevKem

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Twitter · Jul 14, 2021, 3:03 PM

[arctic grove]

[upper sage]

Thanks I will not buy, fuck cross-play

[civic mason]

They wouldn't test something they won;t add to the game

[bleak nebula]

they moved tech alpha so they can test cross play too

[plain drift]

You can turn off crossplay ok

[worldly star]

you can turn it off though

[valid onyx]

Cross progression > cross play

[civic mason]

fine then, just don;'t buy the game if it ticks you off so much

[valid onyx]

Cross play shouldn't exist

[lucid goblet]

That's your choice, but you realise it can be toggled off completely right?

[valid onyx]

At least for PC and Console

[plain drift]

Actually dont buy the fucking game if you hate bf2042

[valid onyx]

Maybe like Xbox and PS4 cross play because they are basically the same but

[worldly star]

i have friends on console so i would like it to exist

[valid onyx]

I use console and hate it but only if PC users get on

[worldly star]

sounds like a you problem

[plain drift]

If you dont like crossplay doesn't mean the rest of the fucking world hate crossplay

[bleak nebula]

people hating on crossplay when you can turn it off

[plain drift]

Just to remind you crossplay haters you can turn it off and your not the only one who plays bf

Like other people want crossplay

just let them have it

[arctic grove]

Turn it off.

[valid onyx]

I should have done a TW after seeing these results

[topaz hazel]

People are so fucking intelligent

[plain drift]

Omg turn it off like your not being held hostage

No one is forcing you to like crossplay in fact no one asked if you hate it or not

[bleak nebula]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[valid onyx]

All games I have played don't have the option to turn it off 🤷

But that was only 1 game

[bleak nebula]

only 1 week left!

[lucid goblet]

Just ignore the one's baiting for arguments.

[upper sage]

"turn it off" ok, now what about community servers bc I'm not playing with SBMM

[plain drift]

Not like the devs are holding a fucking gun to you head and is yelling PLAY CROSSPLAY

[arctic grove]

I always play cross-play i am a pro at shooters on console and mnk so i don't really care playing with pc on console is easy most pc players i play with are bad.

[plain drift]

I like crossplay and I hate crossplay like because more expanded playerbase hate is because you cant play with old gen but It is what it is

[worldly star]

we dont know if there will be community servers

[topaz hazel]

Anyone know if they said anything about anti-cheat

[lucid goblet]

Nothing yet.

[hazy otter]

@plain drift The future is now old man

[worldly star]

rumors are that theres gonna be one, nothing official though

[plain drift]

Why did you have to ping me and im not a boomer or a guy you moron

Im like in my 30s

[glad orchid]

[plain drift]

and im a girl ty very much

[worldly star]

i like crossplay bc it means i can play with my dad without any issues

[arctic grove]

Im a feminist.

[worldly star]

like im sorry but im not putting a pc in the living room just to play battlefield

[hazy otter]

Can't understand references? who's the stupid one huh?

[plain drift]

Imagine hating crossplay and not knowing that you can turn it off

[mortal raft]

Nobody said it has SBMM

[worldly star]

it does i think

at least thats whats been going around

[arctic grove]

Dude you don*'t need to cry about it.

[plain drift]

No need to be mad over it also Im a girl

[summer crescent]

If they do bring back maps from previous games, will they bring back maps from BF1, and if so, which ones?

[hazy otter]

cry about what?

[arctic grove]

Children children, please. Youre all just horrible

[valid onyx]

I just stated my opinion of crossplay and now there is a war going on

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

Cry about that

[plain drift]

Or else what wtf you gonna do

[worldly star]

[plain drift]

I will cry on your grave and piss on it bitch try me

[bitter mulch]

people chill

[mortal raft]

Only Tom Henderson leaked it once and then backpaddled, saying only on the server teams are balanced based on skill, skill won't decide what server you're on.

[hazy otter]

I'm only explaining something flew right over your head yet you call others dumb.. not mad, just laughing

[bitter mulch]

we are here for battlefield

dont be toxic

[plain drift]

Its a joke? damm Im stupid and I didnt understand the reference sadly

[worldly star]

oh alright, thats good then

[arctic grove]

[valid onyx]

Twitter

Twitter

[simple linden]

i dont think bf5 had SBMM, i doubt 2042 will have it either, the MM will be the same, servers turn on as people enter the queue

[arctic grove]

My new fav song. https://open.spotify.com/track/0Hj3wMTCmVDjxqLfdXL88h?si=7681bd6cee244d77

[mortal raft]

As long as it has a server browser. Highly doubt they would kill that.

[worldly star]

wrong chat dude

[hazy vector]

If they had SBMM, the bots would have to somewhat auto adjust to the players level

[mortal raft]

Also map voting. The exact rotation repeating again and again in BFV gets tiring

[worldly star]

very tiring

[hazy vector]

Map voting only works if everything is in the pickeble rotation

[plain drift]

There should be a option of map voting or just picking the map for private servers look man idk

[worldly star]

its not an issue when the maps are good but some of them suck lol

[frank folio]

am bf 2042 right now

[plain drift]

Then lets hope all the maps are good at least

[upper sage]

I don't think this will be traditional battlefield, imo they want to compete with COD & are copying what they are doing so I wouldn't be surprised if it does have some kind of SBMM to promote sales of Battle Pass.

[arctic grove]

Its the bf 2042 trailer theme

[frank folio]

am playing bf2042 right now

[plain drift]

Im not butthurt over the maps but Im just interested in the gameplay and the graphics

[arctic grove]

Also im non binary.

[plain drift]

and the shit in the game

[hazy vector]

The one with the skyscrapers will at least have a sector with a park everyone will try to avoid, and as recently confirmed heaps of skyscrapers with only bottom floors and roofs

[plain drift]

cry about it you said that to me when I was a girl and not a man

So imma do it to you

[mortal raft]

How does SBMM promote a Battlepass?

[arctic grove]

I was talking to the ninja turtles pfp guy.

not you lol

[worldly star]

seeing how you completely intentionally misgendered someone else earlier, i dont think i care

[arctic grove]

What is going on in this chat?

[plain drift]

I dont fucking care you did that to me when someone else was saying old man to me

[hazy vector]

No idea, but apparently the mods don't care for intervention

[plain drift]

imma step out of this chat lmao

[arctic grove]

Aren't you the one arguing?

[worldly star]

[plain drift]

Yh but werk27 started it first

[lucid goblet]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[plain drift]

Do I have to dm someone proof

I got misgendered

[arctic grove]

I was telling @hazy otter not you

[arctic grove]

No offense, but this is a battlefield chat, does anybody actually care?

im a feminist.

[hazy otter]

What are you telling me?

[plain drift]

I know but chat never stays on topic for fucks sake

[arctic grove]

Im not telling you anything i did not uderstand the reference.

[worldly star]

quit teasing us, bot

[plain drift]

Earlier people were being salty over aim assist

[hazy otter]

Second thought I don't care

[next onyx]

At July 22nd things will come to fruition

[lucid goblet]

If there's a serious issue, please feel free to contact ModMail, otherwise stop with the arguing in here.

[arctic grove]

I get going off topic about other games, or game mechanics, but no one cares about misgendering someone, please.

@plain driftWhen i said cry about it i was not talking to you i was telling somebody else to cry about it not you,

[plain drift]

Ok lets change this topic

Anyways is crossplay worth it just asking

[next onyx]

Ye

[plain drift]

I mean shame you cant play with old gen

[upper sage]

Probably why they call the "soldiers" NOPATS bc they were afraid to offend anyone

[stark nacelle]

IS THAT...A GIRL? WHO PLAYS VIDEO GAMES? AWOOOOOOOOGA HUMMNAHUMMNAHUMNAHUMMNA pants like a dog whistles heart pounding through chest WOAHHH MAMA

[arctic grove]

Crossplay is fine, but if you are on console disable it because of hackers

[mortal raft]

Since you can opt out it only had advantages and no negatives.
Don't understand why anyone wouldn't want it

[arctic grove]

I would at least, I'm on pc, so I'm keeping it on anyway

[simple linden]

theres nothing to compete with cod, two totally different games

[hazy otter]

Really hope the anti-cheat is better than BFV and Warzone

[plain drift]

Yh but sadly somepeople seem to hate crossplay

when they can turn it off

[mortal raft]

???

[arctic grove]

THANK YOU. COD AND BATTLEFIELD are two different games. I really dislike when people try to think one will "kill the other"

Cod = cqb

Battlefield = all out warfare

[hearty atlas]

!When

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[upper sage]

id get banned for what I really wanted to say but I'll leave it there

[simple linden]

i doubt the menu UI will be too different from bf5 menu, meaning there will be a server browser

[worldly star]

i dont get why ppl think you cant enjoy both

[simple linden]

they have the same MM system since bf1

[stark nacelle]

They’re both obviously trying to poach eachother’s user base. Why do you think Cod introduced that battlefield-style mode in MW and has tanks on some maps in Cold War, and Battlefield has adopted more and more features from cod

[arctic grove]

They both have different styles.

[simple linden]

with no SBMM, and servers turning on by request

[mortal raft]

Uhh... I see...?
Whatever you said there just makes zero sense though.

[plain drift]

Ok ty jeez lmao

[simple linden]

cod can implement bf game modes all they want

it will never play like bf

[arctic grove]

They can try and take the other's fanbase, but the overall experiences in both franchises are completely different. Battlefield doesn't really shine in cqb 6v6 combat, however cod doesn't shine at all out warfare with vehicles and destruction. They are both different.

[stark nacelle]

BF literally introduced a 6v6 mode in 1

[arctic grove]

Conquest is still the most popular mode

[plain drift]

july 22nd damm we gonna get new games

[arctic grove]

Just because they did it, doesn't mean its popular

[simple linden]

we all know whats the most popular game mode in bf

[stiff pollen]

Everybody can have a lock on launcher

[plain drift]

I swear if I see chat spamming gta 6 Immas yeet myself into nasas rocket

[stiff pollen]

This is gonna be amazing

[simple linden]

cod had the same formula for literally a decade

[arctic grove]

Well, you better strap yourself in as they always do it

[plain drift]

Yep

[simple linden]

same 3 lane map design with no verticality

[arctic grove]

You could say the same about battlefield

[brittle forge]

Nah bro skate 4 spam gang unite

[arctic grove]

Just different time periods

[plain drift]

Prepare for rockstar droolers I guess

[simple linden]

yes, and bf was all about large scale battles

[upper sage]

nopats= no patriarchy, they don't want to offend anyone by flying flag colors

[simple linden]

rather than arena style maps

[plain drift]

EA play is july 22nd so I dont think gta 6 is related lmao

[arctic grove]

Yes for example battlefield 2042 is more focused on charging into the objective with alot of other players using multiple tools and vechiles making it ''all out warfare chaos''which is a good thing.

[plain drift]

What about playstation tho

they slacking

[arctic grove]

Exactly, but they haven't innovated that much as well.

[plain drift]

we had xbox showcase

and Nintendo and others as well

[arctic grove]

Battlefield is sponsored by xbox, playstation isn't going to show anything

Cod and bf are different interpretations of fps, they’re both fun to me

[plain drift]

even ea play around the corner

[plain drift]

Oh damm

[simple linden]

yep, but my point is that they are two different games with different game mode focuses and styles of gameplay

[arctic grove]

Exactly, that's what I was saying earlier

[plain drift]

would like to see playstation showcase someshit Im just bored to death im not the only one whos bored

[mortal raft]

Bruh what?
Multiple characters literally had flags on their uniform and no-pats clearly does not stand for that.
Besides it's still Rússia vs US, so I'd assume their flags are in the game.

[brittle forge]

Even though I highly doubt this will ever happen because the amount of balancing required would be insane and even Battlefield wouldn’t want to go this big, Part of me at some point in the future kind of ones dice to fully go “fuck it” and make a full on competitor to planetside two lol

[arctic grove]

They won't, they can't, xbox is the "official console" for battlefield

[arctic grove]

I find that bf5 had to big maps for the player count you should have like at least 10 other players around you in bf5 i was fighting with like 2 other players.

[lucid goblet]

a little clarification from Straatford on Crossplay.

[plain drift]

Yh I meant other games

[simple linden]

2042 is giving me planetside 2 vibes tho

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah

[simple linden]

especially how you cap objectives now

[arctic grove]

Watch these maps are going to be too big

[brittle forge]

They’re definitely taking inspiration from it on the whole sector thing

[worldly star]

nah i dont think so

[plain drift]

how many players are in a team

[arctic grove]

64

[plain drift]

we need like hundred thousand pls

[arctic grove]

Think about it, double the player count, 4x to 5x the map size

[plain drift]

thats weak lmao

[arctic grove]

64

[brittle forge]

128 players would work on Iwo Jima conquest ngl

[plain drift]

we need 100,000

[topaz hazel]

Second state of crossplay?

[arctic grove]

Yes

[junior finch]

we need entire battalions and regiments in the game, when will we get that

[arctic grove]

No maybe 200

[arctic grove]

Unfortunate. I was hoping for current gen and pc to be able to play with last gen with 64p servers at least.

[simple linden]

altho im curious about planetside 3, which is in development, and prob a few years away from release, PS2 was really interesting

[arctic grove]

milsims.

[plain drift]

fine 900

there

[junior finch]

no like

[plain drift]

I want crazyness

[junior finch]

thousands of people in 1 battalion

[arctic grove]

bafftlefield

[worldly star]

128v128

[arctic grove]

Hopefully there is a 64 player server option, 128 in rush is going to be hectic

[plain drift]

Maybe in the future when battlefield X or Y shows up we may get a billion players

Idk

[arctic grove]

Impossible

[simple linden]

the only tech that can support like 1000 players is SpatialOS

[plain drift]

I like hectic for some reason dont ask me why idk

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 2042 will have that due to everyone focusing on one objective a lot of the time.

[arctic grove]

isnt WW2 Online 1000 players

[simple linden]

but no game has their server tech

[hazy vector]

It's very possible there won't be small servers anymore

[arctic grove]

256 players would be hilarious

[simple linden]

i mean, a very playable experience

[arctic grove]

I want them to make a map with only one skyscraper and no outdoor area and people fighting in stairways and elevators and ziplines.

[plain drift]

make it to a hundred thousand

[simple linden]

planetside 2 can have thousands of players too, but when you get in a hotzone, the hitreg and server tickrate is horrid

[plain drift]

fifty thousand soldiers vs fifty thousand other soldiers

Man I want this

because whats the point of a huge ass map

[mortal raft]

Depends on the map.
Orbital for example is still is smaller than many standard old BF maps

[plain drift]

if you put like a couple of players

64 aint enough

[arctic grove]

Can't happen until cpus get better

imagine the next GTA game with 1000 players on the map at one time

that would be funny

[plain drift]

I hope cpus get better

[hazy vector]

You'll have heaps of bots to fill the map

[arctic grove]

They will, it takes time

[hazy vector]

Bots you can't disable

[arctic grove]

That's the most annoying part

[green dust]

They some maps from bf3 added in 2042

[plain drift]

Yh im not interested in gta lmao but still pretty cool

[arctic grove]

If you can't disable bots, I'm guessing there is no custom servers

[arctic grove]

Private servers should be able to disable bots imo

[simple linden]

the game that was suppose to come out already was to have SpatialOS, and it was the 1000 player BR called maverick proving grounds

[arctic grove]

There probably won't be

[plain drift]

Thats annoying I hope you can disable bots otherwise I aint buying this fucking stupid game

[arctic grove]

Well, don't buy it

[hazy vector]

They already said you cant

[brittle forge]

Get a Stalingrad map with 1000-2000 players and maybe I’ll want to see WW2 games again

[arctic grove]

If there are no private servers then the games community is DOA

lol

[simple linden]

but that game got canceled, or its in an indefinite not in development state

[plain drift]

I wanna but bots I wanna have the option to enable or disable

[arctic grove]

I know, but there isn't that option, I'm sorry

[mortal raft]

I don't understand the bots issue. They just fill empty spots

[hazy vector]

Required bots =/= no private servers

[arctic grove]

true

[mortal raft]

Doubt we will encounter many bots, especially early on

[plain drift]

actually fuck this Imma buy the game all I care is about killing people

Lmao

[simple linden]

as long as there are players in the MM queue, you wont be playing against bots

[brittle forge]

Honestly since this hasn’t said literally anything about community servers I have a feeling you’ll still be able to toggle bots on those if they’re ever added

[hazy vector]

Depends on the game mode and map probably, like always 🤷‍♂️

[arctic grove]

but still if they remove custom servers the game is going to die a lot quicker, ruin a lot of the community and fun of the old servers, and just fuck a lot up

[arctic grove]

If you had a custom lobby with friends with different parameters to change, bots would be an option, I'm just guessing that custom servers like bf4 are not going to be in the game as if you can't change bots, hmmmm.....

[brittle forge]

But officially I don’t think bots are going to go away on DICE’s servers

[frail sparrow]

they confirmed they won't. unless it's full 128 match

[simple linden]

if anything, private servers will function like they function in bf5

[hazy vector]

There have to be rented servers, no way in hell EA is going to invest capital in running all servers for battlefield this timw

[arctic grove]

like the only reason BF4 has been able to last this long is because of its god tier custom servers

[plain drift]

I have a lot of cousins so maybe I can fix that

[frail sparrow]

they basically take up the slots of players who aren't there. kinda like it was in...quake i think

[arctic grove]

They are way worse than bf4

[hazy vector]

Unless they're banking on microtransactions way to hard

[frail sparrow]

nice stepbro

[arctic grove]

2042 should have a server system like 4

[simple linden]

yes, they are very limited, but my guess that we will get the same private servers

[plain drift]

of course stepsis

[arctic grove]

It won't, it'll probably be like Bfv

[arctic grove]

why would they do that again

[plain drift]

also whats the rural role?

[arctic grove]

it went horribly the first time

[frail sparrow]

server system of 4 was shit, admins fecking saying it's 58 out of 64 players and then you join and it's just him and 2 of his friends

[hazy vector]

I think it's the name of the tiers of booster?

[arctic grove]

Trust me, dice doesn't care about community feedback, they care about money, that's it

[hazy vector]

Idk

[frail sparrow]

i'm stuck, stepbro!

[arctic grove]

aside from fake player counts on some rare occasions, it was way better than the newer games

[hazy vector]

Never encountered a fake player count tbh

[plain drift]

Ah shit here we go again

[sudden otter]

when the PC minimum system requirement gonna release? on 22 July? anyone knows?

[plain drift]

Bye CJ

[frail sparrow]

rare? all occasions

[arctic grove]

Around beta time

[mortal raft]

Never had that happen. Didn't know it was possible

[simple linden]

expect it to be slightly higher than bf5 specs

[arctic grove]

you must be in SEA or something then

[frail sparrow]

ALL you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!

[brittle forge]

It needs to be better than one and five for sure but honestly they were a lot of disadvantages to BF4’s system that people aren’t remembering. Most of that was just badmins admittedly, but stuff like Instant Vehicle Spawn servers weren’t that great either

[arctic grove]

I have a feeling a lot of people aren't going to be able to run the game well, as most people still have older 4 core cpus

[sudden otter]

around September then?

[arctic grove]

I have joined maybe one fake playercount server in my entire 6 years of playing BF4

[arctic grove]

August most likely

[hazy vector]

They'll be able to run it, just not well

[simple linden]

i have a feeling that they will delay 2042

[stark nacelle]

Bad servers aren’t an excuse to not give people the ability to host their own

[plain drift]

You picked the wrong house fool

Ok I will see myself out

[stark nacelle]

good

[plain drift]

Imma see myself out lmao

[simple linden]

since they said that they will move playtests towards the end of august

[arctic grove]

I hope not it releases on my birthday.

[stark nacelle]

I’d rather have them delay it then have it come out in a shit state

[arctic grove]

Shame Rockstar doesnt care about old games

[hazy vector]

Sounds like they're delaying

[plain drift]

Crossplay is a huge deal because more players and an expanded playerbase

[arctic grove]

I don't think it will as its competing with Cod Vanguard/Halo

[simple linden]

and then after playtests will come open beta

[plain drift]

[brittle forge]

No but I don’t think admin should be given as much control as they were with 4, although yeah it definitely needs to be more control than one and five because they basically gave you nothing

[arctic grove]

hell they barely even care about new games, RDR2's patches have consistently fucked up the game

[stark nacelle]

Just don’t play on servers with bad admins, people should be able to customize their servers how they please especially if they’re the ones paying for a rack

[arctic grove]

Rdr2 took 7-9 years to make, give them a break

[stark nacelle]

Back in the day people could HOST their OWN servers on their OWN computers believe it or not

[hazy vector]

They paid for the server, why shouldn't they have control?

[simple linden]

i dont know, i would imagine that they are already running private playtests, unless those late august ones are specifically only for crossplay

[arctic grove]

That isnt an excuse to ruin the game I bought because of random online updates, it literally has more bugs, and looks worse, than the first patch

[worldly star]

good joke

[shell ermine]

You could even do this for console games

[stark nacelle]

Yeah

[arctic grove]

Who cares about online, if you bought rdr2 for the online, you made a bad decision

[arctic grove]

it did, development and story development started right after RDR1 launch

[shell ermine]

Battlefield 2 Modern Combat, Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2

[stark nacelle]

Yep

[umbral vigil]

my favorite part of this forum post was
"how are we gonna differentiate our specialists from their specialists?"

"Uh... We're working on that"

[shell ermine]

Three big ones I remember off the top of my head

[arctic grove]

The voice actors confirmed it took 6-7 years to record voice lines

[arctic grove]

Dude thats what I am saying, SP has been ruined by Online patches and updates repeatedly

[shell ermine]

Used to rent servers from Art of War Central for Star Wars Battlefront 2 for the PlayStation 2

[worldly star]

which means you should have higher expectations

[plain drift]

I hope there is elevator music lmao

[arctic grove]

I only knew about the cold glitch, but it runs fine for me

[stark nacelle]

I didnt know about this what do you mean

[odd fox]

https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/battlefield-2042/20953 this the legit specs?

[ivory cape]

@umbral vigil battlefield 4 team and enemy icons

[arctic grove]

Rdr2 is one of the best games of all time, my expectations were met

[worldly star]

no

[simple linden]

nope

[plain drift]

Imagine hearing the same music while trying to defend your enemy team

[umbral vigil]

They didn't say enemy icons

they said squad and team icons

[shell ermine]

This server needs like a 5 second slow mode as a permanent thing

[plain drift]

Also a tornado during a battle damm its hard

[ocean flame]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-不造-i-dont-know-gif-5094560

[simple linden]

just look at bf5 specs, and go from there

its gonna be slightly more demanding than bf5

[plain drift]

can our enemy team win if we get struck by a tornado

[arctic grove]

Not really, double the player count

[plain drift]

is it the same for the other way around

[arctic grove]

They changed and removed a ton of stuff, they fucked up lighting, and anti aliasing to the point where 1080p looks more like 240p, and they also had broken the camp dialogue FOR MONTHS last update, on top of all that the game would also launch at only 7 volume everytime for again, literal months.

[ivory cape]

@umbral vigil bruh the enemy icon is you spotting them

[simple linden]

its gonna require a more modern cpu, but its not gonna deviate too much

[ivory cape]

Like it always is

[worldly star]

im half expecting the bfv recommended specs to be the minimum for 2042

[stark nacelle]

What happened what’d they remove

[brittle forge]

You all are ignoring the “as much” part I’m not saying admins shouldn’t have a good deal of control over their servers, but the inconsistency of of the more incredibly customized servers became a disadvantage when the game started to lose population and half of the only populated servers were 24/7 Metro/Locker with 3000 tickets

[simple linden]

their goal is still to put the game in as many hands as they can

[ivory cape]

The red arrow above their head

[simple linden]

so they will aim for your most average specs

[worldly star]

cpu wise at least

[odd fox]

Always the best way

[arctic grove]

They removed the original version 1.00 lighting effects and overhauled particles that were shown in the original PC trailer

[umbral vigil]

it's more along the lines of how do you look at a glance and say that guy is on their team

[odd fox]

i cant see the game being on xbox one and needing much more power then that

[arctic grove]

I'm guessing i5/i7 8/9th gen, and a rx 580/1660 super as recommended

[simple linden]

recommended cpu will be a 6 core

[ivory cape]

@umbral vigil always shoot first, ask questions later.

[brittle forge]

Obviously that’s not a problem of bf4 since the game is incredibly popular again but it was when the game didn’t have as many normal servers

[worldly star]

its not the same

[stark nacelle]

That’s only because when a game dies the only people left are the diehard autists who play shit like locker 24/7

[worldly star]

last gen is only 64 players

pc is 128

[arctic grove]

Also closed off maps

[umbral vigil]

People hate on bfv cosmetics but at least you could still tell at a glance what team was what

[ivory cape]

Never played 5 so i wouldnt know

[arctic grove]

People disliked it because it was too unique

[simple linden]

but the game will run fine on 4 cores

[worldly star]

funny

[simple linden]

maybe not on ancient 6th gen intels

[stark nacelle]

Kind of, unless they were wearing the t-shirt and trousers with no helmet. It was almost impossible to tell people apart

[spice burrow]

And series x and ps5

[arctic grove]

I actually liked how BFV cosmetics maintained somewhat of an actual consistent style instead of games like Warzone where they have clown skins and Rambo

recent 4 cores, i3 10100, ryzen 3 3100, will probably be fine lol

[arctic grove]

Not really, unless like a 10th/11th gen i3 4 core

[simple linden]

4 core cpus are still the most popular, followed by 6 cores, and they will definitely aim to be playable with 4 core cpus

[arctic grove]

older 4 cores will struggle a lot

[ivory cape]

@arctic grove they added a unicorn skin acouple weeks ago

[worldly star]

why the hell is intel still making 4 core cpus

[arctic grove]

4 core is not the norm lol

[arctic grove]

Not really, they don't care about pc specs, they care about ps5/xbox series x

[worldly star]

stuck in the past

[umbral vigil]

It was in the colors mostly

Like the British were mostly shades of brown compared to the steely gray germans

[brittle forge]

Modern Warfare’s cosmetic downfall gave me an appreciation for BFV’s cosmetics despite inaccuracies tbh

[spice burrow]

Apparently the pc specs got leaked too

[worldly star]

id say 8 is the norm

[arctic grove]

4 core is extremely underpowered for most new games now

[spice burrow]

1060 minimum spec

[worldly star]

since thats what consoles have

[arctic grove]

6 is the norm, barely anyone has 8

[arctic grove]

wouldnt say extremely

[odd fox]

Hopefully they make direct 12 actually work this time around

[umbral vigil]

The americans had a lot of greens compared to the khaki japanese

[arctic grove]

with a newer 4 core youll be fine lol

6 core is the norm for gaming

[worldly star]

consoles have 8

[umbral vigil]

But yeah the helmets helped lol

[arctic grove]

we are talking pcs

[simple linden]

they arent really, their i5's are 6 cores, at least the normal powered ones, low power ones are 4 cores

[arctic grove]

6 cores are the norms for gaming

[arctic grove]

Isn't the norm, but I agree it will become the norm in a few years

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[arctic grove]

but I just said "for newer games"

[odd fox]

Core speed over core count.

[arctic grove]

you will be fine with a newer 4 core as well

if your just doing whatever then yeah 4 core is fine

[worldly star]

oh yeah thats what i meant. sorry

[simple linden]

pc market is just as big as console market, and i'd wager that there will be more pc players than current gen console players, so it is important

[arctic grove]

yeah newer 4 cores run newer games fine

[arctic grove]

no not really

[arctic grove]

But they aren't going to let people with 6th gen I5 dictate the graphics of a next gen game

[odd fox]

im worried about the optimization of the game engine

[arctic grove]

yes they do, chips such as the ryzen 3 3100, i3 10100 are pretty decent gaming chips

[simple linden]

devs are only beginning to fully utilize multithreading in games

[odd fox]

that many players could really mess with frame rates

[arctic grove]

Frostbite is always optimized to a good degree

[arctic grove]

this

[brittle forge]

For games you want speed over cores unless you like to run a bunch of background apps for whatever reason

[arctic grove]

cores still arent really optimized

lol

[arctic grove]

yeah except for BFV which had horrible launch optimization

and even worse utilization of RTX

[simple linden]

of course, thats why i said that 6th gen intels are gonna struggle, there are still 4 core 8th gen intels

[brittle forge]

The massive multi core CPUs for like eight cores and above or mainly for workstations

[arctic grove]

That's why I'm not preordering

[arctic grove]

8 cores isn't massive

[odd fox]

same no preorders here

fuck that

preorder it and get a bf5 nty

[simple linden]

bf4 barely runs on 3 cores

[odd fox]

i get 350 - 450 on bf4 on locker

[simple linden]

at that time, multithreading in games was in its infancy

[arctic grove]

6 cores will be the norm for years to come, games still arent optimized for more cores

[odd fox]

games still pretty even today

[arctic grove]

id say at least 4 more years

[brittle forge]

i mean compared to the 4 you all are discussing is what I meant

[worldly star]

im gonna be upgrading my cpu before bf2042 comes out so i should be good

[simple linden]

past 6 cores, you get barely any improvement

[spice burrow]

I7 7700 k / 1050 is the minimum spec for 2042

[arctic grove]

Yeah but the improvement will increase overtime

[odd fox]

AMD 5000 series cant go wrong

[arctic grove]

once games start using more CPU cores

[simple linden]

yes, but its gonna be a couple of years

[arctic grove]

mhm

[brittle forge]

Getting stuff like AMD 12-core thread ripper’s is fine, like it’s not gonna hurt you, but if you’re just gonna play games you aren’t gonna get that much out of it

[arctic grove]

i cant see 8 cores becoming the norm until like 2025

lol

[worldly star]

yep, im gonna get 5800x

[arctic grove]

so I mean, if you have the money, you may aswell just invest in an 8 core

[arctic grove]

True

[simple linden]

it depends what you want really

if you only plan on gaming, then a 5600x is plenty

[odd fox]

3080 5800x is the best combo right now

[arctic grove]

by the time games are fully optimized for 8 cores, your 8 core chip will be outdated

[spice burrow]

Overkill imo

[arctic grove]

true

so like

[simple linden]

you barely get any improvement with a 5800x

[arctic grove]

if you really dont need an 8 core chip dont get one

[worldly star]

thats my goal by the end of the year

[odd fox]

i see people getting 300fps on bf5 with a 3080 and 5800x its nuts

[spice burrow]

A 3060 would be better for your money

[arctic grove]

because by the time games really utilize 8 cores, your chip is outdated

[simple linden]

the cost doesnt justify the performance gain, if you only look at gaming performance that is

[arctic grove]

Not really, a 3060ti is the best budget value, but if you have the money, get a 3070/3080

[odd fox]

3060 is a 1080p esports machine

[spice burrow]

Thats with a config file tho

[upper sage]

Cellphones are already 8 cores 12GB ram with HDR 120FPS screens & raytracing coming soon, it's only a matter of time before all platforms mesh.

[arctic grove]

Okay but why does it matter if its outdated if it still runs good

I mean

[arctic grove]

3060 sucks for th emoney

[spice burrow]

Its $400 how

[arctic grove]

GPU prices are actually heavily decreasing rn

[odd fox]

@spice burrow im only getting 180ish on bf5 with a r7 3700x and 3070

[arctic grove]

so no

[arctic grove]

but thats not the point, why plan for something thats like half a decade away

[arctic grove]

it sucks for msrp

the 3060 was never good value

[spice burrow]

Do you have silks config on?

[simple linden]

those 8 cores arent even close to pc cpus

[arctic grove]

Not really, only some cards and its still taking time

[arctic grove]

Future proofing is pretty common

[odd fox]

im using freethys

[simple linden]

you got 4 "high power" cores and 4 low power ones

[arctic grove]

future proofing is dumb unless the future is really close

[arctic grove]

live streaming

[odd fox]

is silks better ?

[arctic grove]

4-5 years isnt really close

[spice burrow]

Silks gives better fps and visibility

[odd fox]

hmm ill try it

[arctic grove]

idk I bought a really beefy PC like 3 years ago and I can still run a majority of new games at the highest settings in 4k no problem

[upper sage]

If ARM scaled to the size of PC what would that performance be like?

[odd fox]

wish i could get direct x 12 to stop stuttering you know a fix ? @spice burrow

[spice burrow]

Yeah dont use dx12 on bfv

[worldly star]

how good is the 3080 in 1440p

[simple linden]

but we live in a world where x86 cpus are predominant

[arctic grove]

dx12 is still pretty shitty

[spice burrow]

Shits busted on bfv

[worldly star]

will it be ok for a 240hz monitor?

[arctic grove]

depends, i use it, i get a lot more performance than dx11

[odd fox]

3080 1440p? 240hz? huh

[arctic grove]

yeah

dx is shit vulcan is better

Dx12 is stuttery for me

[worldly star]

yes

[simple linden]

dx12 ran like shit for me in both bf5 and bf1

[arctic grove]

dx12 isnt optimized properly enough yet

[odd fox]

1440p 240hz is like 800 dollars

[worldly star]

maybe ill just go for 4k120

[arctic grove]

dx12 runs great for me, but i have an RX 6700XT lol

[worldly star]

yes

[brittle forge]

I have 3080 with a R9-3900x and the only performance issues I’ve had in games is running gmod realism subscriptions of all things

All the BFs run fine

[spice burrow]

Is 1440p gaming even worth it?

[odd fox]

idk i personally think going past 1080p you just end up losing visuals from having to lower shit

[arctic grove]

If you have the money, yes

[arctic grove]

idk, imo 1440p is the best mix between quality and FPS, 4k is still a little too beefy

[brittle forge]

I like alot personally

[odd fox]

1080p 240hz is still king rn

[simple linden]

i'd say that 1440p is the sweetspot

[arctic grove]

Barely anyone notices the difference

[arctic grove]

I have a 1080p 240hz monitor and I fucking hate it

[simple linden]

you still get higher fidelity, while not tanking performance

[arctic grove]

most modern games look terrible

[odd fox]

why lol

[arctic grove]

1080p 240hz is stupid for most consumers

[odd fox]

no ips panel @arctic grove

[arctic grove]

IPS for the win

[brittle forge]

1440p is affordable quality plus good performance. If you go all the way up to 4K you’ll have to spend a lot of money to get good performance

[spice burrow]

I have a 165hz 1080p curved monitor

[odd fox]

Yeah i got a ips 240hz 1080p

[arctic grove]

yo im soon gona get bf4 is it worth playing the story mode?

[brittle forge]

Plus high frame rate 4K monitors are extremely expensive

[worldly star]

and with dlss itll look great

[spice burrow]

I liked it

[arctic grove]

Hopefully you guys don't have tn panels, ips is way worth the investment

[odd fox]

4k isnt good if you plan on being competitive in any sense

[arctic grove]

1440p is pretty affordable these days, couple hundred bucks for a 144hz one with the free gsync too

[worldly star]

im thinking about getting the samsung g7 odyssey

does anyone know if its any good

[arctic grove]

Don’t need to pay 600 for that g sync module anymore

[arctic grove]

Dual monitors > ultrawide

[mortal raft]

Not every games has good DLSS.
The new RDR2 DLSS implementation is horrible for example.

[odd fox]

4k is awesome if you wanna play single player games at 70 - 80 fps

[worldly star]

its not ultrawide

[arctic grove]

No its the fact that most modern games have horrid looking anti aliasing and copious amounts of blur on 1080p because they were designed for way higher resolutions

[simple linden]

gigabyte M27Q is one of the best value 1440p 165hz capable monitors on the market right now

350e

[worldly star]

its just 32 inches curved

[arctic grove]

Sorry wrong monitor

[spice burrow]

True everyone is just gunna put there settings on low and find a config lol

[worldly star]

yeah the g9 is the ridiculous one

[crystal olive]

How do you guys think a laptop rtx 2060 will do?

[arctic grove]

Get 2 24 inch montiors instead of a 32 imo

[odd fox]

4k is pointless for gaming for any type of fps game

[mortal raft]

I have it, it's good but can have scanline issues on some monitor settings.

[arctic grove]

Dont by a laptop, they die within 3 years due to overheating

Get a good ips 144hz, and use the monitor you have now as a discord monitor

[odd fox]

1440p is the highest id go

lets not even get into 8k lol

[crystal olive]

It was bought 2 years ago

[arctic grove]

2060 laptops are pretty weak, get a 3060 laptop if you have to get one

[brittle forge]

DLSS is cool but I don’t like that you have to enable Ray tracing in order to get it (at least in BFV) I’d rather just run without RTX tbh

[odd fox]

2060 is pretty weak in general

[arctic grove]

[simple linden]

i plan on getting gigabyte M27Q, great monitor for its price

[arctic grove]

4K is fine but unless you’re happy spending like 3k on your pc it’s just kinda terrible value for money

[upper sage]

M27Q best monitor for the money, $320 1440p HDR 170hz

[arctic grove]

Laptop yes, desktop its more powerful than most people's pcs at the moment

[mortal raft]

BFV uses DLSS 1.0

[simple linden]

you can enable dlss on other games

[arctic grove]

1440p is pretty good for getting the most outta games rn

[simple linden]

its not hdr capable

[arctic grove]

What does IPS even mean

im not an expert on monitors

[worldly star]

gross

[simple linden]

it can interpret hdr signal, but its not hdr capable

[worldly star]

ill get 2 32 inch ones

[arctic grove]

ah

[upper sage]

yes it is I have it & can enable HDR in windows

[odd fox]

in plane switching.

[civic geyser]

yo

[simple linden]

IPS is a type of display

[odd fox]

it is just better colors

[arctic grove]

Way better colors

[odd fox]

normally comes with a slower response time

[arctic grove]

Nope, not anymore

[brittle forge]

IPS has better viewing angles as well

[odd fox]

yeah why i said normally lol

[mortal raft]

PC monitor HDR isn't really comparable to real TV HDR

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[odd fox]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/acer-predator-24-5-fhd-240hz-1ms-gtg-ips-led-g-sync-gaming-monitor-xb253q-gx-black/14675563?cmp=seo-14675563&cmp=knc-s-71700000055264709&gclid=CjwKCAjwlrqHBhByEiwAnLmYUPLou7ga6iqp56mMxfhkBBjxQIS8OrLpp6F2EFQTWxVPtTxJheyNUxoCYykQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[arctic grove]

What's the best config file for fps? In bfv

[simple linden]

yes, you can enable HDR, because it can recognize an HDR signal, but its not really an HDR monitor as its sustained brightness is only 350 nits, and it doesnt even have local dimming, which is a must for HDR

[odd fox]

one of the best 240hz ips 1080p ive had

[arctic grove]

HDR on any standard monitor is pretty much totally useless, it’s crap to put a sticker on the box

[arctic grove]

Also in most cheap tvs as well

[odd fox]

Anyone ever tried a 360hz panel

feel like it is useless

[arctic grove]

No, I can't even reach 300fps in a game

Like if you don’t know how hdr works you’re def not buying a monitor with good implementation

Except valorant

[brittle forge]

tn monitors have really poor viewing angles, which normally isn’t a problem if you’re a single monitor staring straight on, but any multi-monitor setup has that disadvantage

[arctic grove]

yeah I was looking at this one which also looks great

https://www.newegg.com/black-acer-nitro-vg280k-bmiipx-um-pv0aa-001-28/p/N82E16824011381?Description=ips panel&cm_re=ips_panel-_-24-011-381-_-Product&quicklink=true

[odd fox]

360hz just seems so wasteful

[simple linden]

if you want a real HDR monitor, you have to spend 1000e+ at least on asus models that have local dimming and sustained brightness of at least 800+ nits

[odd fox]

ive had it for roughly 4 months its amazing

[simple linden]

TN panels are a relic at this point

[arctic grove]

Used to be that IPS was really expensive for high refresh and had pretty bad latency but these days those problems are solved so no reason to get TN tbh

[pure swallow]

Wish crossplay was console only by default.

[arctic grove]

Its only 60hz

[pure swallow]

I know PC players may feel different.

[arctic grove]

oh shit nvm

[odd fox]

You wont reach more then 4k 60 on most games

[brittle forge]

Really the only thing is that they are dirty fucking cheap but to your point IPS isn’t exactly expensive anymore depending on how many features the monitor comes with

[arctic grove]

That's why 1440p 144hz is the best all rounder, budget go for 1080p 144hz

[odd fox]

1440p is just meh to me

id rather the extra frames

im also a sweat though

[arctic grove]

got any good recommendations for a 1440p monitor?

[simple linden]

the only "problem" with M27Q is that it has a BGR arrangement instead of RGB

[arctic grove]

yeah, all depends on the use case, but generally nobody should be recommending tn now

[arctic grove]

https://www.amazon.com/LG-27GL83A-B-Ultragear-Compatible-Monitor/dp/B07YGZL8XF/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=1440p+144hz&qid=1626284631&sr=8-3

[simple linden]

so reading text can be a bit iffy in some applications

[arctic grove]

ty

I use LG 27GL850, think that’s the name, and got no complaints

[arctic grove]

No problemo

1440p is a higher resolution than 4k. Because 1440p has 1436 more digits.

[upper sage]

M27Q it's the best you can get for the money that or the G27Q

[simple linden]

LG makes decent monitors, that are more budget oriented but gigabyte M27Q is prob the best value out of all of them

[arctic grove]

And P is further down the alphabet than K.

[mortal raft]

The higher hz you go the smaller the difference will be. It's pretty much useless that high.

[arctic grove]

How have I not thought of this, we are all fools!

Have they said anything about DLSS?

[odd fox]

240hz is noticeble maybe its a reaction or limit by eyesight but i notice it from my second monitor which was a 165hz

[simple linden]

and it has a good panel from Sharp with pretty good latency

[simple linden]

it will have it

[arctic grove]

Because big 4k control the media and the world

[mortal raft]

Yes, they have an Nvidia partnership and will have it.

[arctic grove]

hm alright

[odd fox]

144hz 1440p is still best visual vs perfomance though

[arctic grove]

NICE!

What config file do you guys use?

[simple linden]

the latency is about 9ms for black to black

[brittle forge]

Some minutia might differ but this is the model I have, it’s a bit on the expensive side tho https://www.amazon.com/27-inch-Monitor-PG278Q-Response-Display/dp/B00MSOND8C

I like it, good monitor

[simple linden]

other more expensive monitors usually have it in the range of 5ms

for IPS that is

[upper sage]

If you find M27Q cheaper get that, it's the newer version of G27Q, usually they are around the same price

[worldly star]

whoever said gpus are dropping in price heavily should be a comedian

[arctic grove]

yeah I found one for only like 15 bucks more than the older one

[odd fox]

They are i found a 2070 at my local staples!

[arctic grove]

I'll look into it

[simple linden]

depends of the region really, they dropped a lot in my region, still expensive, but not 1800e expensive for a 3070

[worldly star]

3080s are still 1000$

[arctic grove]

Do you use a config in bfv?

[opal compass]

and i had 2

[odd fox]

yeah 3080 is in high high demand though its like a super generational leap in performance

[arctic grove]

Supply for gpus is improving but it’s still pretty meh

[arctic grove]

Man I got banned from BFV in like 2019 for literally doing nothing wrong lol

so no

[simple linden]

no point to get the G27 if its only 15 bucks more, M27 has a much better panel with less latency

[arctic grove]

Gonna be a few months before we know if it’s really going the right way

[worldly star]

man the 3080 is the only reason my pc is so expensive i hate this

[arctic grove]

Oh, someone on this sub said they used an fps config, trying to find who it is

[worldly star]

its gonna be my last part bc my 2060 is still good

[odd fox]

Thats why i settled with a 3070

[arctic grove]

Yeah, the 2060 is still a great card

[brittle forge]

Most of the news I’ve heard on the GPU price drop is that they’re anticipating the prices to drop since China banned crypto And quite a few regions they have actually dropped quite a bit. whether they are actual MSRP yet is probably a no

[mortal raft]

Honestly still can't believe how lucky I was getting my RTX 3080 at MSRP

[brittle forge]

Most of the drops that we’ve seen is because the prices were already horribly over inflated

[simple linden]

@arctic grove and if you end up getting an M27Q, leave the overdrive mode at picture quality, you literally get zero ghosting, other "faster" modes arent worth it

[worldly star]

theyre stupid as hell then

[arctic grove]

Think the US is doing alright now, here in the UK the supply is shit

[brittle forge]

I got mine in a pre-built

[worldly star]

if you buy a gpu used that was for mining, stop building pcs

[astral marsh]

I want rtx 3060

[brittle forge]

Not really people just don’t know how to read price market articles

[worldly star]

youre getting scammed

[astral marsh]

The

[simple linden]

theres a lot of 3080's and 3060's in china that are selling bellow MSRP right now

[half brook]

Hopefully we’ll have a proper anti-cheat because I wanna play with some PC pals

[arctic grove]

Those are gpus that have been at 100% usage for months tho

[mortal raft]

Probably worth the investment in a pre-built right now. Good thinking.

[worldly star]

yes bc theyre worn to shit

[simple linden]

nah, china banned crypto, so thats why

the only issue is the memory really

[worldly star]

yes so the gpus are worn out bc they were mining crypto

[mortal raft]

Early on I also thought I should just go for a new pre-built, since most of my PC is outdated anyway

[simple linden]

cuz it depends how those rigs were cooled

[worldly star]

i hate crypto miners

[simple linden]

you cant really wear out a gpu

[brittle forge]

I had really lucky timing because it was about time for a new PC when the 3080 launched and was scalped to hell, so I was able to knock out two birds with one stone

[simple linden]

memory, kinda

[opal compass]

never buy gpu's that were used for crypto mining

[upper sage]

meh I beg to differ, miners want to conserve power to make the most of their money. At best a mining card maybe expect to replace a fan

[arctic grove]

Getting a second hand mining card is a big no no

[simple linden]

if its constantly at high temps, which it most likely is due to poor cooling in those rigs

[arctic grove]

It’s constantly running at 100% usage, there’s no way it’ll perform like new after

[brittle forge]

I mean most mining rigs are literally just shelves with cards on them they aren’t even proper PCs

[worldly star]

can you believe some of them are saying that gamers are taking gpus from crypto miners? lol

[simple linden]

the core itself will perform the same

the memory is the big question mark

[upper sage]

They underclock to make the most of their money, I doubt a lot of them run their cards balls to the wall

[simple linden]

they are all underclocked

because you get more value by underclocking them

ethereum mining uses memory, so the memory is the problem, since they arent properly cooled, and constantly running at high temps

[brittle forge]

Always buy new if you can help it, you never know what the previous owner’s setup did to the used card whether they were mining or not.

[simple linden]

maybe not individually at high temps, but when you combine every other gpu dumping heat all around themselves, its not great

if a random guy mined on his single gpu, then i dont see it as that big of an issue

even if it was working all day

but if it was in a rig, well thats another thing then

[arctic grove]

Just having it under warranty is worth a few bucks too

[worldly star]

i wish i could at least get one lol

[arctic grove]

k good to know

[brittle forge]

I know that’s not possible for some people but it’s a good rule to follow, if you have to buy used try to see if the seller has any kind of popular rating or reviews from buyers

[arctic grove]

I'm just sick of dealing with 1080p blur

[astral marsh]

I hope prices go back to normal soon and in stock

[arctic grove]

and taa ghosting

[worldly star]

they wont

[hollow cove]

I am the baby

[simple linden]

you get slightly better latency, but you also introduce ghosting with those faster modes, so its not really worth it

[brittle forge]

Because there are reputable used GPU sellers but you have to look and do your due diligence, like all used products

[hollow cove]

jk

[arctic grove]

I don't know why asus has backlight bleed on their monitors, its so dumb. I like my monitor, but its still pretty annoying

For all we know it’ll be a year, or there’ll be this dump of cards if scalpers think there’s not gonna be any profit in a month we just don’t know

[worldly star]

why isnt scalping just made illegal

[arctic grove]

because buying something isn’t illegal

[arctic grove]

Because its supply and demand

[simple linden]

cuz nothing is stopping you from putting whatever price you want on things

[brittle forge]

It’s probably extremely hard to regulate on the surface most of these people are basically regular paying customers

[worldly star]

nah i think scamming ppl should be kinda illegal

[arctic grove]

It’s not really scamming though

[arctic grove]

Its not a scam if people are buying it

It’s just taking advantage of demand

[upper sage]

It's not scamming it's just supply & demand

[worldly star]

woohoo capitalism

im gonna start scalping then

[simple linden]

in my region, retail stores have scalp prices on gpus

[arctic grove]

It’s shitty and morally bankrupt yes, but not really a scam

[arctic grove]

yeah 100%, as I said, I'm just sick of having to try and artificially sharpen my games just so the anti aliasing is semi bare able

[worldly star]

when i can afford it

[brittle forge]

As bad as it is it’s not a scam unless they literally do not deliver the product

[arctic grove]

When you have people like MSI scalping their own product, that’s when it gets real shitty

[simple linden]

i have yet to see a good budget 1440p monitor with literally 0% ghosting, every other monitor ive looked at has at least a few %, but M27Q has zero

[brittle forge]

But if you pay $1200 for a PS5 and the scalper gives it to you, you didn’t get scammed, the seller is just a piece of shit

[arctic grove]

epic

[edgy eagle]

you scammed yourself

[worldly star]

ps5s are like 800 here

[arctic grove]

capitalism

supply and demand

[brittle forge]

yeah

[arctic grove]

[worldly star]

where can i get the most realistic fake bills

[simple linden]

north korea

lul

[worldly star]

scamming scalpers would be funny i think

[slim quiver]

That new Jackfrag video was a good summary of the new info

[simple linden]

a couple of years ago, north korea made a more perfect 50$ bill than what the US makes

or maybe it was a 20$, doesnt matter, but still lol

[brittle forge]

Honestly as annoying as it is all I would take is some basic bot security and product limits from companies and big sellers rather than a government intervention, But the companies are still making money so I guess they don’t think having actual customers is worth protecting

[simple linden]

it was dubbed a super bill

every other company in the world looks at profit first

its no surprise

[brittle forge]

Maybe Sony is after the PS5 debacle because they’re a bit salty about it, If PlayStation directs increased security is anything to go by

[simple linden]

why do you think nvidia and amd arent making 3050 series cards or bellow 6700xt

[arctic grove]

Money

[brittle forge]

But they can only do so much once they sell the Walmart and target and what not

[simple linden]

they have no need to make those low tier cards, cuz all of their high tier cards are selling out

[simple linden]

exactly

even if they produce less of those cards, the margin is much higher

[worldly star]

every new technology is gonna have this issue from now on i think

like seriously its been a year

[brittle forge]

nvidia is really fucking annoying because I’m sure a massive amount of their scarcity is completely artificial

[worldly star]

definitely

[simple linden]

you need to move a lot of low tier cards to make up for that margin, but theres no need to make those low tier cards at this time

[worldly star]

you can get amd cpus msrp from their site with no issues

[slim quiver]

Idk they have a shortage all around

[simple linden]

that doesnt make sense at all

[arctic grove]

Man low settings of bfv looks really good, way better than what I expected

[brittle forge]

It always has been, but it was definitely exacerbated by the supply issues from the pandemic so it may not be as bad until another crisis hopefully

[simple linden]

cuz holding stock is just a financial loss, theres no gain to that

[arctic grove]

Cant wait to shoot em

[torpid shuttle]

Should I buy BF from steam or origin?

[slim quiver]

It’s mostly just the fact that it was the perfect storm

[arctic grove]

STEAM

[simple linden]

doesnt matter, you still have to run origin if you buy it on steam

[worldly star]

but when they decide to sell more they sell out in under a second

[slim quiver]

You had covid and then you had a crypto boom happen literally interchangeably

[worldly star]

so its not really a loss for them

[brittle forge]

Plus the chip shortage

[arctic grove]

What settings do you play bfv on for fps?

[slim quiver]

Yep

[simple linden]

holding stock is a loss, cuz they have to pay for warehouses for nothing really

[slim quiver]

Most of the problem is no business has bot protection

[worldly star]

they should have ppl manually confirm orders

[torpid shuttle]

But I need to run 2 platforms right? Is it affect the pc performance?

[simple linden]

but ofc you have to calculate how much need to produce in order to sell it for a minimal loss in shipping and holding it

[arctic grove]

None

[simple linden]

it has no effect

[worldly star]

so when they see mr fat nuts with his 10 3070s in the cart they can deny him

[brittle forge]

Theoretically yes but unless you’re running on a very weak PC origin and steam at the same time won’t really fuck you up that much

[slim quiver]

Just do what Best Buy does. Make people order and then walk into the store

[torpid shuttle]

Thank you

[arctic grove]

Why would they do that, bots make them more money than people

[vestal silo]

https://www.pcgamer.com/battlefield-2042-crossplay/

[worldly star]

no stores even are taking physical stock of gpus lmao

its stupid

[slim quiver]

The item would still sell regardless tbh

[arctic grove]

But its faster with bots

[slim quiver]

That’s not true though

[simple linden]

those who use bots are in it to scalp the cards

[worldly star]

im not counting micro center bc theres like 4 stores in the world

[arctic grove]

People don't understand that these companies care about money, not the normal consumer, so if bots make them money quicker, they aren't going to stop them

[slim quiver]

My friend walked into a physical store to buy my 3090. Microcenter refuses to sell stock online, you physically have to walk in

[simple linden]

the cards will sell out regardless, be it people buying them or bots

[brittle forge]

To be fair there are some consumers who are using bots just to get GPUs as well if only to get one before the scalpers do

[slim quiver]

Best Buy does the same as well

They stock in store and make people walk in

It’s only sometimes they sell the stock online

[brittle forge]

Because a little black market has propped up along selling purchasing bots

[simple linden]

yea, but i reckon the majority of people using bots are in it to scalp the cards

[brittle forge]

Oh, definitely

[slim quiver]

Scalping the cards is dying down tho because Bitcoin crash and crypto crash as well

[brittle forge]

But I guess you could say there is use that is a bit more legitimate (if you can use the word “legitimate” here lmao)

[slim quiver]

Most analysts project the shortage to even out by the start of 2022

[simple linden]

bitcoin uses ASICS instead of gpus

so its mostly eth mining

and other crypto

[worldly star]

they havent restocked in months lmao

[slim quiver]

Oh yeah true

Who?

[worldly star]

anyone

[slim quiver]

Best Buy restocked about 1-2 weeks ago for 3070s

[worldly star]

consoles, gpus

[brittle forge]

That’s cause Ethereum uses this outdated method that’s a very intensive to calculate

[worldly star]

i havent seen anything

[slim quiver]

Newegg does a shuffle every single day of the week

[brittle forge]

It’s called proof of stake I think

[slim quiver]

My friend got his ps5 from Best Buy about 3 weeks ago when they did a drop

[brittle forge]

But that might be the new one that is in nearly as intensive I can’t remember

[simple linden]

eth will also move to ASICS or that proof of time system or whatever its called

but not until 2022

[slim quiver]

Tho Best Buy drops are all in store now

So it’s like regional drops

[simple linden]

yes, proof of stake

proof of time for was for chia mining? farming?

[brittle forge]

I think the old intensive method is proof of stake and the new one that’s good is proof of work?

[slim quiver]

All the prices are starting to come down closer to MSRP which is good

[simple linden]

whatever the system is called, it wont use gpus anymore

[upper sage]

Crypto is the same every year, rises around thanksgiving when kids start getting holiday money then crashes around late spring. My theory, people are inside during the cold months, when the weather warms up people want to go outside & enjoy the weather so trading slows down.

[slim quiver]

True except covid didn’t help that

[odd fox]

i tried to play bf5 for like 5 mins and was like nvm

[simple linden]

theres a clear pattern of crypto crashing

[odd fox]

games horrid

[arctic grove]

Tried to play it now, its pretty boring

[odd fox]

yeah i almost fell a sleep

back to bf4 ><

wish bf3 was populated

[torpid shuttle]

BF2 is gold for me.

[brittle forge]

I remember crypto validation being talked about alot back when Twitter was losing its fucking mind over the environmental impacts of NFTs, when said impact was from Ethereum’s crypto validation methods instead of the NFTs themselves

[arctic grove]

Watch the launch of bf2042 is going to have server issues, the game will run pretty bad on pc for the first few weeks, and then there will some bugs

[odd fox]

BF6 will be a flop idk man i just feel it

i hope not i need something to play

[simple linden]

its back to modern ages

people are hyped

[arctic grove]

I just feel like its overhyped

[simple linden]

i doubt its gonna flop

[torpid shuttle]

I hope they remaster BF2142.

[brittle forge]

There’s definitely going to be server issues because they’re going to be overloaded as hell

[odd fox]

Always server issues

Cant rem a big fps launch without one

[brittle forge]

But hopefully the only other issues are just balancing issues instead of BF4-esque stability/technical issues

[odd fox]

bf4 netcode was pretty bad at launch

still is shit but better

also not a fan of the bot thing

[velvet hull]

I got shit stains in my underoos

[hearty sky]

Also not sure if previous BFs were cross play, I’m assuming this one will be? So servers will be fucked hard

[simple linden]

2042 will be the first one

[brittle forge]

In terms of the technical side of things Hardline, BF5, and BF1 all launched relatively well

[arctic grove]

Bf5 was unoptimized at launch

[rain narwhal]

when modern warfare took a shit at its launch

[brittle forge]

From what I can remember

[simple linden]

for me bf5 ran much better at launch than later

some patch really fucked up my performance

[odd fox]

i seen a lot of ppl with high end pcs getting like 70 fps on bf5 launch

[brittle forge]

BFV was the roughest but it was very much playable compared to BF4

[arctic grove]

If "Future Frame Rendering" isn't in bf6, I'll be pretty upset, gave me like a 50fps boost

[grave fiber]

idk i like bf4 way more than bf5 even though bf5 is beautiful

the only thing i hate about BF4 is thermal stuff feels so cheap

[simple linden]

i could play bf5 at max settings and 150% resolution scale with at least 70-80 fps

[brittle forge]

I literally could not play BF4 without awful rubberbanding until the fucking Naval Strike DLC

[worldly star]

bf3 remake when

[odd fox]

You can change a config setting to 3 itll lower response and input but it adds like 100 fps

[worldly star]

actually

i want a bf2 remake

[brittle forge]

After that it was great but it took em 5 months

[simple linden]

but after some update i was getting drops to like 40 fps

[grave fiber]

@worldly star me too

[worldly star]

or bad company

[simple linden]

had to reduce settings in order to get the same performance

[gentle stag]

So am I right in thinking that here are only two countries? US and Russia? Since I was kinda hoping for more countries such as my own being the United Kingdom.

[grave fiber]

yeah BC2 was my favorite BF of all

[upper sage]

I thought this was going to be the next bad company =/

[odd fox]

the setting is set to 2 by default

[worldly star]

bc 1 and 2 remastered on one disc

[arctic grove]

I think I know what you are referring to

[worldly star]

sign me up

[grave fiber]

right itll be a done deal

[simple linden]

yes, only them, but its a proxy war, so you got soldiers coming from all over the world

[odd fox]

Render ahead limit @arctic grove

[brittle forge]

BFBC2 and BF1 are my favorites in terms of audio design

[arctic grove]

Knew it, thanks for the tip