battlefield-2042

[jaunty portal]

Battlefield has one of best smoke grenade i seen in games

[craggy marten]

I hope the guns in this game are extremely good

Unlike the ones in BF4 where if you miss one pixel of a dude in a gunfight you are practically dead.

[topaz hazel]

They should add the Usas back

[arctic grove]

I just hope they sound good
3 and 4 were good for the time but the guns sound pretty shit compared to BF1 and V guns now

[craggy marten]

They'll sound good

No doubt about it

[arctic grove]

I definitely expect them to but I doubt DICE a lot now
Rocky track record for me ever since after 4

[craggy marten]

What came after BF4 outside of Hardline?

I dont know their track record outside of the big ones

[arctic grove]

Hardline, 1, V, Battlefront 1 and 2, and Mirror's Edge sequel
All of that was either disappointing or straight up bad for me
Played em all

I don't think they've gotten anywhere close to how good BF4 was since then
And I won't deny that 4 was totally awful at release when it came to stability

[honest oasis]

BF2042 system requirements? anyone?

[worthy inlet]

!!specs

[tender pendant]

Currently there are no official PC specifications released by DICE for Battlefield 2042.
Any specs floating around the internet are just assumptions or rumors.

[lost ridge]

RTX 9090 with 10 gajillion gigaflops

[severe hill]

OK who brought up technology

[wide shore]

Exact opposites for me.

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah?

[wide shore]

BF1 was such a breath of fresh air. Nailed so much in that game

Atmosphere. Sounds. Immersion. Interesting setting. Operations. Great DLC

I don’t like BF4 at all

[swift mica]

anyone know when the next gameplay comes out for 2042?

[arctic grove]

It's too stripped down for me in a lot of ways but it's probably the one I like most out of every game after 4

[topaz hazel]

22nd

[wide shore]

Only problems I have with 1, is Cavalry being stupidly OP. Random bullet divination, and Suez

[nova idol]

Whats wrong with suez

[swift mica]

cavalry sucks idk what you mean]

[tame token]

@wide shore I completely agree but you always have to worry about cheaters though, they suck.

[topaz hazel]

Yeah Calvary is ass

[wide shore]

Not on console. Those dudes go crazy on them horses

[nova idol]

Only thing cavalry has going for it is its high health pool

Other than that it sucks

[topaz hazel]

Nah on console they gun down the horse, 24 magazines a sec bro they get ripped apart

[swift mica]

on PC, the cavalry gun is basically unusable while youre on the horse, which leaves roadkill and sword kills, both of which are basically just luck

[arctic grove]

I don't like how weapon lists were padded out by variants and that we lost attachments or how BF1 has some of the most accurate hipfire I've ever seen in a BF
More specific things like dynamite not being sticky really bugged me too
Lots of issues but those come to mind first

[topaz hazel]

Even those explosive anti tank guns they use it on horses

[wide shore]

Idk man. I see people going on big streaks on cavalry a lot

[nova idol]

Probably with the anti tank nades

[wide shore]

Especially since some people got good using those grenades

[arctic grove]

Cavalry takes a lot of skill to use to its fullest but it can be strong in the right hands

Lance over sword for sure tho

[wide shore]

I don’t think allowing them to heal while riding was a good change

[nova idol]

I like the elite classes over battle pickups

[topaz hazel]

Calvary is really exposed

Unless the person is very good and used to retreating efficiently they will get gunned down before they reach enemy lines

[wide shore]

Maybe. But they’re fast and nimble. Most of the time experienced players will be gone the moment they get hit

[arctic grove]

It does suck that one of the best ways to kill a horse requires you to be immobile
Never was a fan of AT guns making you bipod up

[topaz hazel]

Yeah true but rocket gun

Rocket gun and lmg

[nova idol]

Rocket gun + AT nades tho

Shreds a landship

[arctic grove]

I definitely prefer the days of one man taking down a vehicle with ease in BF3 and 4
I was always taking shit out with C4 as a support
So fun

[wide shore]

AT nades in BF1 were incredible. But in BFV it’s like hitting a tank with a wet fart

[arctic grove]

Ricochet is a bad mechanic imo

[topaz hazel]

Have you guys used the mortar on the landships

[nova idol]

Only good at gadget in bfv is the lunge mine

[wide shore]

I don’t mind ricochet. I do mind how much armor BFV tanks have.

[arctic grove]

I agree about that

[nova idol]

Riccochet sucks

[arctic grove]

It's insane imo

[nova idol]

Once I hit a tank for THREE damage because it riccocheted

[wide shore]

Or how it feels like the “weak spots” only work like 10% of the time.

[topaz hazel]

Low armour

Whoops sorry ping

[arctic grove]

Vehicle campers have it too easy
Especially since you ain't getting any kind of teamwork from randos
If a tank gets snuck up on and killed by C4 then he deserved it

[wide shore]

I’ve hit a tiger with 2 piats, a AT grenade and a lunge mine all in the ass, and didn’t destroy it. That’s just insane

[topaz hazel]

Don’t use piats lol

[arctic grove]

Yeah that shit is ridiculous for sure

[wide shore]

I thought the PIAT has the strongest anti-armor?

[arctic grove]

It does do the most for launchers

[topaz hazel]

You’re going completely anti-tank?

Dang

[wide shore]

I mean, somebody has to. Can’t rely on blueberries

[topaz hazel]

It’s a dirty job

But probably one of the most effective

[arctic grove]

Randos will let a tank eat the whole match
They really don't care at all for some reason

I always try to ruin their fun hard

[topaz hazel]

Anti-tank is fun

[wide shore]

I hope 2042 doesn’t have quick repair

[arctic grove]

Same

[wide shore]

Just pressing one button and getting like 20 health back instantly is kinda dumb

I’m fine with repairing inside the vehicle, but that mechanic is wild

[topaz hazel]

Probably just track repair

[arctic grove]

Let em have unlimited ammo again and all that shit I don't care
Just no EZ mode repair
Make those chumps get out and do it

[wide shore]

Either or.

If you keep repair inside, make sure launchers do sufficient damage

[arctic grove]

Yeah that shit better hurt and/or remove ricochet

[topaz hazel]

Heavy bombers in BfV was disappointing

[arctic grove]

If I shoot a tank up the ass it should be devastating

[wide shore]

I can’t fly worth a damn.

[wide shore]

Agreed

[arctic grove]

I like choppers, especially little bird
I'd only occasionally use jets to take out a tank or something

[wide shore]

There was never an issue with weak spots until 5. It’s so inconsistent

Oh, yeah. I was decent with choppers in 3 & 4

[topaz hazel]

I couldn’t take out a tank as infantry in bf4

[latent acorn]

Rendezook cringe 🗿
#speedrun

[topaz hazel]

The only way I did was the c4 buggy thing

[arctic grove]

Support in 3 and 4 was the anti-tank king imo

[topaz hazel]

While in bf1 and v it was much easier to just sneak up and destroy it

[arctic grove]

C4 jeeps were fun as hell too

[wide shore]

I surprisingly didn’t use much support in 3 & 4.

I started being a support main in 1 & 5

I usually played engineer.

[topaz hazel]

I was main assault in V and 1

[arctic grove]

I hated the crazy ass bloom LMGs support had in 3 and 4 but you got used to tap firing and making use of the bipod when possible
Like support a lot in 1 but it feels so bad in V compared to the rest
I still play it tho
LMG and MMG being separate doesn't work for me

1 feels pretty balanced as far as classes go but V needed some work imo

[wide shore]

Yeah, I thought the MMG mechanic was cool at first. But, idk. It’s so handicapped at times. Don’t get me wrong, you can still rip with an MG42, but every time I use an MMG I just wish I could use it normally

Shame we never got the LAD LMG

[arctic grove]

Pretty much how I feel
Damn I didn't even think about the LAD not being there

I'm glad support at least got shotguns and carbines

[wide shore]

I used it in the training area when they accidentally added it. Felt good to actually ads with a big mag MG

[arctic grove]

Thats what I love about 1
Running around with the Perino is so fun

I'd honestly be shocked if they did LMGs that dirty again in 2042
Fingers crossed

[wide shore]

I hope not. I don’t wanna stop using LMGs

[arctic grove]

Me too
LMGs and shotguns are generally my favorite

[wide shore]

Even if they’re not as cool as they are in WWI & WWII

[arctic grove]

lol definitely

[wide shore]

There is some cool modern MGs though. MG3, M249, PKP

[arctic grove]

I think a double barrel shotgun has a great chance of getting in but I'd be surprised to see a relic LMG
Hope so tho

[wide shore]

Be interesting to see what they’ve got in store

[arctic grove]

I hope we get a stoner

[wide shore]

I’d love some relic guns.

[arctic grove]

I want some LMGs with AR dna

[wide shore]

I really just want a normal AK-47.

Wooden furniture and all

[arctic grove]

I used to love the MG36 with the testicle mag
Number 1 LMG I used in BF3

[jolly skiff]

I just hope we get gun attachments like 4 instead of how we got it in V

[arctic grove]

You can see the attachment system in a trailer if that's what you mean
Apparently you can swap on the fly

[gilded falcon]

Dice be like: Whoops! All rail guns

[jolly skiff]

Yeah, I wonder how they're gonna make the swapping on the fly work without it being too gimmicky

[topaz hazel]

Tbh I like it

Idk why a lot of people dislike it

[wide shore]

Same.

[arctic grove]

I feel like it's something you won't mess with all that much unless you're going from a massively wide open area to something more urban style
I don't see myself doing it much

[delicate hollow]

people hate change

[wide shore]

My most used LMG in 3 is apparently the M240B

[topaz hazel]

You’d probably have to do it considering the scale of the map, I believe some of the objectives take place in tight places

[wide shore]

I mean if the maps are as big and diverse as DICE says, I can see a lot of scenarios where you’ll be moving from close to long range combat quite a bit. If used correctly, it could be very beneficial.

Kinda like fortifications

It’ll have its niche

[arctic grove]

The M240B was so good
Forgot about that one
One of the hardhitters up there with the M60 and PKP

[wide shore]

Yeah, I’m a big fan of low rof high damage

Chauchat was my baby in BF1

[arctic grove]

Yeah I like that a lot
G3 and SCAR all day

[delicate hollow]

chauchat was my baby in bfv

[wide shore]

I played BF3 recently and had a 120 kill game on Seine with the G3. Thing is a monster

[topaz hazel]

Is that the French weapon

[arctic grove]

My favorite in V is the Type 11 purely on aesthetic but yeah the chauchat is good af

Yup French

The one that is apparently shite irl lol

[wide shore]

I’ve used it quite a bit in V as well. I think the Bren takes president over it for me in that game.

[delicate hollow]

i dont really use the bren ever

[arctic grove]

I really like that lines of the chauchat
Just a damn tube

[wide shore]

Love the type 11 as well. Both Japanese LMGs are severely underrated

[mortal tide]

Ive never used the Chauchat. How good is it?

[delicate hollow]

if you can control it

amazing

i recommend not using the 3x scope

[wide shore]

It hits like a Selbstlader 1917 but automatic-ish

[arctic grove]

It's a 3 bullet kill out to a good range
Almost like a full auto DMR for support

[mortal tide]

I'll think about giving it a try then

[arctic grove]

Easy recoil too

Two shots if one is a headshot

[wide shore]

Plus the sound

Mmm. It chugs

[delicate hollow]

the recoil is very random but it is easy enough at close range

just make sure you have cover to reload behind

[wide shore]

Good gun for tap fire at range

[arctic grove]

And those 20 rounds last a lot longer when your RPM is only about 360

Nice ass gun

[wide shore]

Kinda like a LMG version of the Grease Gun.

[mortal tide]

ah ok

[arctic grove]

If only the grease gun had some damage behind it lol
I do still like it tho
That with the suppressor is fun for flanks

[wide shore]

I haven’t had much problem with the GG killing slow. I’d say it’s the exact opposite

It shreds. It feels good to control. Shot one irl for my birthday this year. It’s a little beast

[arctic grove]

I feel like it's pretty noticeable if you use almost any other SMG

Thats pretty cool

[wide shore]

It chugs just like it does in the game.

[mortal tide]

Vehicle stealing is pretty much a problem in every BF game. In the gameplay trailer, they come from the sky and drop down when you call in a tank. You know damn well people are gonna try and steal

[wide shore]

I will too. Lol

Not from teammates ofc

[arctic grove]

[mortal tide]

Ill occaisionally do it once in a while maybe lol

[arctic grove]

Tbh I don't really like any of the SMGs in V
They're almost all so ugly and have the side mag and useless bipod
They have no drip
MP40 still pretty nice to look at tho

[delicate hollow]

side mag sexy tho

[wide shore]

I like a lot of the BFV SMGs. I’m a big fan of the side mags too. Lol

[mortal tide]

Imo, in BFV in a way, every single gun feels the same

[wide shore]

The MP18 in BF1 is one of the nicest looking guns ever

[craggy marten]

How many tanks per team will appear anyway?

20?

[delicate hollow]

that seems like too many

[craggy marten]

15?

[wide shore]

Maybe 10 per team?

[mortal tide]

max maybe 7 or 10
But definitely not higher than 15

[delicate hollow]

even thats a good bit

[wide shore]

Idk. 64 people on a team is a lot

[delicate hollow]

i mean

we get like 2-3 tanks average in bfv

[wide shore]

How many tanks are there per team on Golmud?

[craggy marten]

7 per team?

[arctic grove]

They definitely do have a lot of similarities imo
Too many SMGs are samey
I guess the side mags isn't the issue, it's just that so many frames are so basic and utilitarian
Of course I get that being the point
Don't need a sexy gun for war
Especially in WW2

[craggy marten]

How tf will anyone get them

Outside of menu campers

What kind of amount is that

[wide shore]

Yeah, a lot of SMGs were built on the cheap in WWII

[mortal tide]

There should be a lot per team, but imo it should not go over 15

[wide shore]

The Sten and the Grease Gun are both basically tubes

[craggy marten]

So 15.

[delicate hollow]

15 is too many

[wide shore]

I’d say it’ll depend on the map

[craggy marten]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN TOO MANY?!

[arctic grove]

MP40 is the only SMG I even have gold in V
Sometimes I'll use others but I have to look what I'm shooting
I'm more of a Tromboncino and Jungle Carbine guy
Those are sexy af

[craggy marten]

Its 65 goddamn players in one team bro.

[delicate hollow]

ok so on panzer storm each team gets 8

[wide shore]

Breakaway will definitely have more than kaleidoscope

[delicate hollow]

and panzer storm is hated for that

so if you double players and tanks

you get what you want

[mortal tide]

For Kaliedoscope and Hourglass, id say maybe 10

[wide shore]

Well, Panzerstorm is also just a giant field

[craggy marten]

It will be impossible for anyone to get vehicle if its less than 15 of them

[delicate hollow]

there are non tank vehicles

[mortal tide]

how many do you think there should be?

[craggy marten]

15 or slightly less

[delicate hollow]

not everyone needs a tank

[craggy marten]

Like 13

[wide shore]

The infantry won’t be as exposed on a map with skyscrapers and such. As compared to Panzerstorm where most of it is wide open.

[mortal tide]

15 max

[delicate hollow]

15 is way too many imo

[craggy marten]

But you damn well know everyone is gonna go for a vehicle

[delicate hollow]

well yeah

but thats how it is

[craggy marten]

And if its just like 10 tanks they are gone in an instant

[delicate hollow]

if there are too many tanks it will have the panzer storm problem of not enough infantry

[craggy marten]

How will the vehicle selection layout look like?

[wide shore]

Well, the setting also allows for more diversity in vehicles. Armored cars, Jeep’s, transport/attack/little bird helis, jets, lavs, boats ect

[delicate hollow]

they are already gone in an instant on every bf game

[craggy marten]

Like BF4 or BF1 and BFV?

[craggy marten]

But atleast you get the chance to get the damn tanks later in the game

[delicate hollow]

bro what

[craggy marten]

It will be like Galactic Assault all over agian

[delicate hollow]

i never get tanks in 5

[craggy marten]

I do

[delicate hollow]

dude people camp vehicles on the spawn screen all game

and thats good

[wide shore]

It’s kinda a shame squad points aren’t making a return. I like that system in V.

[delicate hollow]

there should be a ton of tanks

it just isnt balanced

WHY DID IT AUTOCORRECT SHOULDNT

[craggy marten]

Bruh

[delicate hollow]

i hate autocorrect

[wide shore]

Your phone wants moar tanks

[delicate hollow]

yeah

[craggy marten]

Even autocorrect agrees

[wide shore]

[mortal tide]

Kaleidoscope and Hourglass - 13 Tanks
Manifest - prolly none or at least 4
Breakaway its ice, but maybe 15 max
Discarded - 10 or 12
Renewal - 13 maybe
Orbital - 10
My opinion on how many tanks there should be on the 7 maps. Modify if youd like

[delicate hollow]

i dont remember the maps

[craggy marten]

Which one is manifest?

[mortal tide]

docks

[wide shore]

Manifest is the dock map

[craggy marten]

The boat one?

Oh

[wide shore]

The shipping containers and stuff

[craggy marten]

Discarded is the Egypt map

[mortal tide]

Discarded is the boat one

[craggy marten]

Right?

[mortal tide]

Nah its india

[craggy marten]

...

[wide shore]

Renewal is in Egypt I believe

[mortal tide]

Renewal is egypt

[delicate hollow]

i uhhh tried to go to the battlefield 2042 site to see the maps again, and it autofilled the link so i was like cool and clicked it

[craggy marten]

I'm so damn confused with the map names

[delicate hollow]

its just a stream of noot noot saying noot noot

[craggy marten]

I hope a few of them get different names

[fiery solar]

whats wrong with kilioddoalcscope

[craggy marten]

Orbital and the two city maps can keep their names

[wide shore]

I always fail at spelling it. Lmao

[delicate hollow]

huh

weird

it automodded that

[mortal tide]

Kaleidoscope - South Korea
Hourglass - Qatar
Orbital - French Guiana
Discarded - India
Renewal - Egypt
Manifest - Singapore
Breakaway - Antarctica
I think i got it right

[craggy marten]

Hourglass is a perfect name for the map it represents

[wide shore]

I believe so as well

[craggy marten]

I still think the names are odd af.

[wide shore]

I agree

[craggy marten]

For a lot of them

[mortal tide]

just the names in general or good

[craggy marten]

I dont get why Breakaway is called Breakaway.

[wide shore]

I’d say the only one that doesn’t make that much sense is Breakaway.

[mortal tide]

yea i agree

[wide shore]

The rest kinda work for the theme

[craggy marten]

Will the ice caps... Break away mid match?

[mortal tide]

ooooohhh shiiit

[wide shore]

They might. There’s that one BF4 map that does

[craggy marten]

I dont remember that map

[mortal tide]

Hourglass and orbital fit the most

[wide shore]

It’s one of the maps in the final stand DLC

[craggy marten]

I dont get wtf Manifest is supposed to be by its name

[delicate hollow]

bro that tower better fall

[arctic grove]

bro that tower better fall

[mortal tide]

Its major american supply lines
Most of the supplies Manifest there maybe

[craggy marten]

"Oh its probably a manifestation in some place gone wrong and the army got involved-"

Rusty ass shipping docks.

[wide shore]

It was the map Hammerhead

[arctic grove]

I dont get wtf Kaleidoscope is supposed to be by its name

[wide shore]

You could break the ice in the submarine pen

[craggy marten]

If the map itself had a gimmick where visuals get tripped up maybe it would make sense.

[wide shore]

I think it kinda represents the wacky glass structure in the middle

[mortal tide]

Orbital makes a lot of sense
cause... big rocket go into space

[craggy marten]

But its just another city map.

Except no sandstorm.

[fiery solar]

if the tornado goes close it triggers an event👍

[delicate hollow]

how did i not see this before

[arctic grove]

renewal

[wide shore]

Renewal makes complete sense to me

[delicate hollow]

yeah i get that one

[craggy marten]

Tf is renewal again?

[mortal tide]

as well as the obvious one orbital

[arctic grove]

egypt map

[craggy marten]

I dont know how it makes sense from the image we got of it.

[delicate hollow]

i dont get kaleidoscope

[wide shore]

It’s the Egypt map, where the map is split in the middle. Half is a desert, the other side is grassy and such.

[craggy marten]

Have map names been changed before a BF game's launch?

[delicate hollow]

dont know

[mortal tide]

I think its because of farmlands and energy that are being renewed there

[wide shore]

Not that I’m aware of

[delicate hollow]

we do see alot of solar panels

[craggy marten]

Not counting one's changed due to controversies

[radiant prism]

What changed?

[craggy marten]

No

Nothing changed

Just asking if map names were changed before in the past

[radiant prism]

Ohh

Nah I don't think any have

[craggy marten]

Before a BF game launched

Because I dont get like the naming convention for a lot of the maps in BF2042

[wide shore]

I think we’ll get more used to the names when we’re actually playing on them.

[craggy marten]

Hourglass and orbital being the best ones

[radiant prism]

This is the first time in a while we've gotten to know the names of each map this long before launch IIRC

[craggy marten]

The others kinda indirect

Meanwhile in BF4 we got shit like GOLMUD RAILWAY

[delicate hollow]

i think im going to like every map this time around

[craggy marten]

FLOOD ZONE

[mortal tide]

Prolly cause DICE thought they sounded cool lol

[delicate hollow]

yo

flood zone was good

[craggy marten]

CASPIAN BORDER

[fiery solar]

but when it floods

[wide shore]

I mean, BF4 also had Operation Outbreak. And it was a jungle map.

[delicate hollow]

thats like the best part

[arctic grove]

SIEGE OF SHANGHAI

[craggy marten]

Those names are cool

[arctic grove]

OPERATION LOCKER

DAWNBREAKER

[craggy marten]

Atleast Siege of Shanghai isn't called SEASIDE MIRAGE

[wide shore]

DICE had a bit of an obsession with “Operation” for a while

[craggy marten]

Or some shit like that.

[mortal tide]

PARCEL STORM

[arctic grove]

ROGUE TRANSMISSION

[craggy marten]

See those names are understandable

[arctic grove]

GUILIN PEAKS

[craggy marten]

Just by their name alone you can get a lot of their concepts

[arctic grove]

wavebreaker

[nova idol]

SUNKEN DRAGON get it because its underwater

[arctic grove]

lumphini garden

[craggy marten]

Manifest and Renewal dont give me any creative ideas.

[arctic grove]

PROPAGANDA

[wide shore]

Operation 925 paints a great picture

[craggy marten]

Propaganda is the best map in BF4.

Change my mind

[arctic grove]

dude i forgot all about that map

now I want to see it in 2042

[wide shore]

Close Quarters DLC was fun for its time

Aftermath was definitely BF3’s apex

[arctic grove]

EPICENTER

[craggy marten]

Which maps did Aftermath have?

[wide shore]

Back to Karkand was also a great DLC

[delicate hollow]

dont you just hate youtube

[wide shore]

Aftermath, Epicenter, Azadi Palace

Forget the other one

[arctic grove]

DEATH VALLEY

[wide shore]

I wish I got to enjoy the big map DLC more. But those maps were dead on Xbox 360 do to the player cap

[mortal tide]

-_-

[craggy marten]

Bro I can smell YellowFlash2's alcohol grease from here

[arctic grove]

Battlefield 2042 pushed to go political by IGN! Developers give them the FIN...

[mortal tide]

yes

[craggy marten]

Ger

[radiant prism]

TheQuartering did something similar

Gotta love these "commentary" channels going out of their way to rope random shit in to "own the libs"

[craggy marten]

Those two are brothers from other mothers

Like I agree with a lot of shit but not everything is political my gee

[mortal tide]

People also watched

[wide shore]

I hope the battlefield hub leaks turn out to be true. I wanna see Arica Harbor on the new frostbite engine.

[craggy marten]

BF5 didn't suck JUST because of its historical innacuracies for the sake of pleasing morons who need their messed up history fix.

[craggy marten]

Arica Harbor is a BF3 map?

Never played any last gen games

[arctic grove]

bad company 2

[mortal tide]

I remember watching a vid by IGN
It was about games we are excited for
I never heard BF2042, Halo Infinite, or any of the big games in that list
But back to BF

[craggy marten]

Only the main 3 games

From the PS4 era

[wide shore]

I don’t think BFV sucked at all. I quite like it. But it’s definitely very flawed. And you can tell they just gave up on it. Which makes its death feel so much worse

[craggy marten]

I like it too but I can see its issues

[wide shore]

Yee. Arica Harbor was one of the best infantry maps on BC2

[radiant prism]

BFV's problem wasn't even the fact that it was political, it was the fact that certain individuals tried to play off their depiction as accurate and openly alienated players over it. Thankfully those individuals are gone now

[wide shore]

I would’ve preferred Panama Canal, but I can see why they’d choose Arica

[craggy marten]

Wtf

[arctic grove]

it makes me wonder if the maps would have any visual changes

[wide shore]

I mean, they’d have to

[craggy marten]

White man

[radiant prism]

People would probably spam the word if it wasn't on automod lol

[stable iris]

@craggy marten Lets not attempt to bypass our filter.

[arctic grove]

shanghai looking more futuristic, locker being more run down

etc

[craggy marten]

Oh, so that part of the BF5 chat thing didnt cross over

[craggy marten]

Bro you guys have a game set in WW2 and you dont expect people to talk about some parts of it

[wide shore]

If the BF HUB is real. And it does get updated. I hope St Quentin gets added.

[craggy marten]

Whats wrong with that?

[radiant prism]

He's not an EA employee, he's just a mod lol

[craggy marten]

I know

[wide shore]

That’s not a bad idea

[radiant prism]

People know what you're talking about when you talk about the Germans in WW2, keeping that word under automod is probably a necessary "evil"

[craggy marten]

But acting as if I commited a cardinal sin because I tried talking about an aspect of a botched historical game- like, what.

Fuck it-

The german story section with the tanks was good.

[wide shore]

It definitely is. You can’t trust people on discord.

[radiant prism]

No one is acting like you committed a cardinal sin

[glacial pecan]

Lol

[craggy marten]

But christ atleast let me name the damn army, why dont ya? Lol

[radiant prism]

I mean, it was technically the name of the party/regime...whatever

We're going in circles here, let us move on

Not much point in debating this stuff

2042 good yes?

[craggy marten]

Hasnt come out yet

Cant say

[wide shore]

Could just call em the wehrmacht

[radiant prism]

On that note actually...I'm a little nervous to see how the CoD crowd is gonna react to 2042

[craggy marten]

Pretty good

Can say because i'm part of it.

[arctic grove]

slide canceling in 2042....

[mortal tide]

Some of them are hella excited for it, but idk man..

[wide shore]

Heh, a lot are probably gonna get destroyed by vehicles and probably leave like they do every new BF release.

I can see some people transferring from warzone over tho

[craggy marten]

I got BF4 when the 2042 trailer came out and got its DLC after a few days

[radiant prism]

I think a lot of them are expecting it to just be CoD but bigger...whatever that's realistically gonna mean. I think they're expecting some perfect game, but are in for a hard taste of reality in that Battlefield and CoD play VERY differently. They're in a for a bit of a "culture shock" if you ask me

[craggy marten]

Meanwhile I never got the DLC for B03

50 bucks for all of those maps, jesus christ

[mortal tide]

CoD and BF are completely different games, i agree

[wide shore]

When I switched from Bo1 to BC2 it wasn’t too bad. Definitely different tho

But I fell in love with them Gun sounds and destruction.

[mortal tide]

They cannot forget that in BF, it aint 6V6, you are going to fucking war

[wide shore]

And here we are

A decade later and a couple of hairs on my chest.

[topaz hazel]

Most of my cod friends gave up on the game after being shit on 24/7 because of bad positioning

[mortal tide]

quit BF?

[wide shore]

[topaz hazel]

Yea

[mortal tide]

jeez
I mean what did they expect?

[radiant prism]

I think if I'm reading reactions right from a lot of people right now, BF is like some kind of liberator to them...when thats really not what this game has been marketed to be. This game has far and away been marketed as a love letter to long-time BF fans, it really doesn't seem to have targeted the CoD crowd so much. Like BF1 and IW 5 years ago, I really think a lot of the pro-BF hype train is really just an anti-Cold War/Vanguard hype train in disguise.

[wide shore]

Some people don’t get how run and gun doesn’t exactly translate. Or that jumping shooting and flick shots and all that crap doesn’t translate either.

[radiant prism]

CoD but bigger, I guess

Running and Gunning is certainly a thing, it just looks much different in BF

[mortal tide]

It aint 6V6, its war
completely different things

[wide shore]

Just go look at Dr Disrespect try and play BF4 rn. His gameplay is so out of place.

[mortal tide]

how does he play?

[wide shore]

Jumping, flick shotting, doesn’t tap fire at range

[radiant prism]

Any CoD streamer, tbh. Been watching one guy in particular recently, he's done just about nothing but struggle at TDM for the last 2 weeks

[topaz hazel]

A lot of cod players are more fast pace. Tactics take a big place in battlefield ofc but strategy is also very important which is something cod isn’t really focused on.

[mortal tide]

full autoing at range?

[wide shore]

Yep

Its roughhhh

[mortal tide]

oh

[radiant prism]

Having actual recoil is rough for them too lol

[wide shore]

They’ll get used to it. So long as they keep at it

[radiant prism]

Yeah, but patience isn't a trait I'd attribute to much of the CoD community

[topaz hazel]

Skill in battlefield doesn’t come in 2 hours lol

[wide shore]

I feel like going to TDM isn’t the best place to start.

You’re not really preparing yourself for the actual experience.

[radiant prism]

Its really not, TDM on BF is rarely ever good

[jolly skiff]

I usually just stick to conquest and occasionally rush

[mortal tide]

CoD is a ?V? arena. Battlefield is war. I can see why they struggle a little bit, no offense

[wide shore]

Yeah I’m a conquest guy all the way. Operations in BF1 as well.

[radiant prism]

I legitimately think that if someones gonna play TDM, they should actually just go back to CoD. Its legitimately going to give you a better experience there.

[topaz hazel]

They need to understand that k/d isn’t the main objective of the game (aside from tdm)

[mortal tide]

yea

[jolly skiff]

Yeah

[topaz hazel]

A lot of times I see negative or neutral players on my team rank top 10 or top 5 lol

[mortal tide]

There is positioning, knowing when to push and wait, etc

[wide shore]

You never have to worry about your K/D anyway, so long as your positioning is good, and you’re on the objectives. Kills just come.

[jolly skiff]

There's something really great about cooperating with a squad to achieve victory with everyone just covering everyone's back and constant streams of information

[mortal tide]

oh hell yea

[radiant prism]

I love the combined arms aspect of it. Makes it all feel so big

[jolly skiff]

Yeah

I just hope they have fun and try to learn the game

[wide shore]

There’s really no shooter like BF. Ask MW ground war.

[radiant prism]

Pushing an objective on Breakthrough with 10+ people around you, a few tanks thrown in and planes fighting overhead...simply amazing

Remember when people were toting Ground War as the Battlefield Killer?

[wide shore]

[mortal tide]

adds to the chaos aspect of BF
sometimes you dont know wtf is going on

[radiant prism]

Funny, because all Ground War did was emphasize just how good DICE was at making BF, even when the most recent title at the time was a "bad" BF game like BFV

[jolly skiff]

What was ground war even like?

[wide shore]

BF1 Operations is one of the single most chaotic war experiences in gaming.

[craggy marten]

So whats the deal with Bad Company and why is it so beloved?

Can anyone explain to me in #battlefield-legacy-titles

[radiant prism]

Big map, scattered objectives, no thought put into why that actually works.

[topaz hazel]

Bad company campaign 🤤

[radiant prism]

Basically, Battlefield without any of the minor details that make it what it is

[mortal tide]

oh god

[jolly skiff]

Ohh

Dear

[radiant prism]

Actually I say scattered objectives...it was honestly more linear

[topaz hazel]

Btw it’s like 2 people trying to capture an objective and the others are trying to hit 360s

[wide shore]

It’s very unique. Doesn’t take itself so seriously. Fun campaign with funny characters. Plus it was the first good Battlefield games on console. And the first BF games to have “dynamic” destruction. Plus the gun sounds in Bad Company were insane.

[radiant prism]

Ok wordsplaining time, bear with me here

[jolly skiff]

Oki

[mortal tide]

Basically BF4, but with a little goofiness to it

[radiant prism]

The map I played was like a big, vertical oval. There was one objective in the middle of each end of the oval, then three more objectives in a sort of triangle amongst some big buildings in the middle. There was a big cliff over on the right side with absolutely no objectives over there.

[craggy marten]

Can anyone ellaborate on said goofy aspects?

[arctic grove]

0️⃣

[jolly skiff]

That sounds like a lot of lost opportunities

[radiant prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIC-MrwUnH4 @craggy marten

[wide shore]

You know, I got a video that will perfectly explain it.

[arctic grove]

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN

[jolly skiff]

[arctic grove]

who here is preorder gang

[wide shore]

https://youtu.be/RKHnrsUBhQs

[craggy marten]

Not me

[jolly skiff]

I'ma wait for more info

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove сервер по гендерфилду

[jolly skiff]

Also I'm broke

[topaz hazel]

July 22nd is make or break

[arctic grove]

what more info could you possibly need

Го я напишу гендер филд

[wide shore]

I’ll preorder gold when I got some disposable income.

[jolly skiff]

Just like gameplay details

[topaz hazel]

If the Veterans say its good it will be good

[jolly skiff]

But I'm not really picky, main issue is finding some money

[arctic grove]

i mean. its the heart of battlefield. look at the reveal rende

[jolly skiff]

Details second

[topaz hazel]

The question is

Who here really has done a rendezook or jet swap

[arctic grove]

ive done the hillbilly version

[mortal tide]

I would love to pull one off

[topaz hazel]

Elaborate

Has anyone pulled off a jet swap other than stun

I’ve never seen someone else do it tbh

[arctic grove]

i jumped a four wheeler into a chopper but was too low so I jumped and got in right as pilot died and saved it

[wide shore]

Most epic thing I have ever done is snipe a heli pilot, or no-scoping someone while riding on the back of a jet ski in BC2

[arctic grove]

does that count

they call me the chopper man

[radiant prism]

I usually just resort to hitting planes with AT launchers

[arctic grove]

I love my stinger

so so much

i want a futuristic stinger

in 2042

[nova idol]

Hitting planes in bf1 with the field cannon

[arctic grove]

Гендерфилд

Кто согласен лайк

[jolly skiff]

I want good weapon and map variety

[arctic grove]

Согл

Бля

Как круто когда ты один русский

[mortal tide]

English please

[arctic grove]

Ok

ive skipped all the battlefields since 4. and im proderering 2042.

Я могу сказать что я гей😆

i know a good game when I see one

[jolly skiff]

I'll preorder when I get money

[arctic grove]

boomer gamer with experience

got the eye

[jolly skiff]

Do we know if they're working on cross play?

Like PC and Console?

[arctic grove]

Idk

[jolly skiff]

Because I would love to be able to play with my ps5 friends

[arctic grove]

[craggy marten]

Wait until the EA stream or slightly longer for that to be revealed or deconfirmed

[jolly skiff]

Oh right

When's that?

[craggy marten]

22nd

This month.

[delicate hollow]

it looks like old gen and new gen will be separated

[upper sage]

I hope not aim assist doesn't belong on PC servers, also if community servers are gone def not getting 2042

[craggy marten]

I swear, if BattleHub is real and as good as the rumors make it out to be it practically killed COD this year

[delicate hollow]

i dont know what that is

i dont pay attention to the leaks

[craggy marten]

BattleHub is basically old maps from the past BF games but with vehicles and weapons ranging from WW1 to modern day

Its supposed to be REALLY sandbox like and its made intentionally bullshit in terms of "Oh this WW1 tank cant defeat a main tank"

Its like a game of Rock, Paper Scissors, except its more like WW1, WW2, or Modern

[delicate hollow]

id like that more if it was force randomized

[craggy marten]

What

[delicate hollow]

so you could get anything from any bf game

i think that would be hilarious

[craggy marten]

Maybe a secondary gamemode would fo the trick

Battlehub gungame

[delicate hollow]

ooh

[craggy marten]

I hope this rumor is true because DICE said the mode we dont know about involved old maps

[delicate hollow]

get a random gun every kill

[craggy marten]

In their Ripple effect rebrand stream

[delicate hollow]

i wouldnt mind some super arcadey modes

[wide shore]

Just gimme Panama Canal from BC2

That’s all I want

[soft kayak]

Rumor is Arica Harbor is back

[wide shore]

The amount of time I spent sniping people from the top of the factory on that game

Yee. I know. Not surprising. People played the shit out of that map. Me included

[hardy kestrel]

Pamela Anderson from Baywatch? You got it man!

[soft kayak]

Never played BC2. Will be interesting to see what all the fuss was about

[paper estuary]

I'm tired of living a hell called waiting for July 22 😓

[wide shore]

Hopefully if the leaks are true, it still feels like it.

[paper estuary]

Only 12 days more boys

[hardy kestrel]

It was pretty dope for the time ngl. Vehicle upgrade balance was stupid since you only had one slot but maps were pretty awesome and the destruction was legit

[wide shore]

Worst part about BC2 was not having restrictions of where people could go.

[soft kayak]

Now, the thing that bothers me is that both Metro and Locker are on the rumored list.
Now, I like Metro and Locker, but they are effectively the same map. Feels repetative

[wide shore]

Spawn trapping was disgusting on BC2 conquest

Players could legit walk into your spawn, stand there, wait for you to pop in, kill you. Steal your tanks and helicopters, and just sit in your base.

Also, shotguns with slug rounds were better than sniper rifles.

[soft kayak]

Honestly DICE revealing what maps are in the hub is going to feel like when Smash Bros announces their character roster

[hardy kestrel]

Ah yeah I vaguely remember. I spent like 95% of time in rush though back then

[wide shore]

Also, if you weren’t using magnum rounds you were basically at a disadvantage at all times.

I do miss getting a free knife kill on people who were using the UAV though.

[hardy kestrel]

kinda doesn't matter to me much until they clarify what the mode is about. I mean if we're going to have ww1 tanks vs abrams then count me out (happy for ppl who like that sort of ish though) Just not my thing

[hardy kestrel]

Yeah that UAV console was adorable - I always felt guilty knifing someone - they looked like they were having so much fun there

[soft kayak]

Im sorry but I cant understand how anyone isnt excited for that. Id probably play the hub more than base game.

[wide shore]

The UAV was really good fun when you had the gun spec

And if you had a friend to watch you so you didn’t get knifed

[wide shore]

I can see it being an immersion problem than anything else

[soft kayak]

something tells me the hub isnt trying to be immersive

[wide shore]

I can see Guns not being locked in that mode. But I think vehicles should be specific to the map

[hardy kestrel]

Really? Wow, yeah its weird coz I like the idea of sandboxy stuff like having a low grav mode or 2x speed mode - but having vehicles and soldiers from different eras just sounds like a bad acid trip

[wide shore]

That’s fair. And you’re right. But that could be a turn off for some folk

[soft kayak]

it sounds like a really good acid trip

[wide shore]

But thankfully the hub is a separate mode. So everyone gets their share of the pie

[soft kayak]

idea: blimp on Siege of Shanghai

[violet inlet]

I thought all dice la said is there making old maps how do you know thats locked to a different mode they havnt confirmed a bf hub yet have they

[wide shore]

Shanghai tower falls onto the airship

[soft kayak]

cause it confirms a tom henderson leak
*nearly confirms

[wide shore]

They haven’t. We’re just speculating on the leak

[violet inlet]

Ye alright thats what i thought

I just dont listen to that guy lol

[soft kayak]

i mean, hes been pretty damn reliable so far

[violet inlet]

He seems really trigger happy on every rumor he hears

[hardy kestrel]

I hope we have the option of containing era stuff so that people like Nito can have their fun and then ppl like me who just want to have 2042 stuff on Kharg Island can get theirs

[soft kayak]

but yeah Henderson does seem to shill DICE a bit

[soft kayak]

isnt that just base game?

[violet inlet]

I dont see why they would want to split the playerbase would make more sense its all maps just for 2042 n its base game modes

[wide shore]

He hasn’t been wrong yet. So there’s not any reason to really doubt him. But that said, it is a leak, so you can’t put all your stock behind it. It’s just speculating and stuff is all we can really do rn

[hardy kestrel]

So I am assuming that the remake maps will be part of the Hub thing and not part of base 2042

[soft kayak]

yeah

I think there is a good chance the hub is 64 players max due to map design issues

[violet inlet]

Why would they want to split the playerbase like that though

[hardy kestrel]

I think the rumor was that most would be 64 players. yeah. Might be a few 128s but mostly 64

[wide shore]

If the leaks are real. The game would basically be split in three modes. All-out war (conquest & breakthrough 128 players), Hazard Zone, Battlefield Hub

[violet inlet]

They already got base game and the squad based mode another mode sounds weird if its just base game mode but for nostalgia

[soft kayak]

the hub may be a warzone type thing where it extends to the next bf game

[wide shore]

More content is never a bad thing. Especially since they’ve touted how ahead of schedule they are

[hardy kestrel]

And a 4th hidden mode: BF VR Chat

[soft kayak]

hes not against more content, he just doesnt understand why the hub and base game are seperate

[violet inlet]

I think a bfhub makes more sense as a mobile game to compete with cod mobile

[soft kayak]

no

bad

[arctic grove]

No.

[violet inlet]

Yea ik it sounds bad but that makes sense to me

[wide shore]

Well, remade maps wouldn’t work in the main game with 128 players as they’re mostly all built for 64 or less.

Arica Harbor for example is small af

[violet inlet]

So what about ps4

[wide shore]

Even on rush

[soft kayak]

nah fuck it. 128 metro

[violet inlet]

Is there gonna be no bfhub cause its all 64 player

[soft kayak]

?

[violet inlet]

So no point of splitting them up

[wide shore]

Not really sure tbh

[hardy kestrel]

Honestly I'd like a mode or at least a custom server option where player health was like 9999% so 128 players could just roam around the map and do goofy stuff

[violet inlet]

I mean we got bots and servers were free on bfv so could just host a peivate one

But in bf4 people defs hosted easter egg hunt servers

[wide shore]

There’s also apparently a training area.

[wide shore]

I joined a few of those to look for the Final Stand tags

[violet inlet]

Bf needs a training area always spend so much time in there tweaking my settings

[wide shore]

I actually visit the V training area quite a bit

It’s a good place to warm up

[hardy kestrel]

That's my passion project right there. I pray we get a really good test range this time

[violet inlet]

Bfv test range u could coop in aswell

Was so good for testing things

Just wished more air room for testing jets

[wide shore]

And I also really like the idea of just doing private bot games. I mess around in BO1 combat training even to this day.

[hardy kestrel]

bfv test range was pathetic - only 4 vehicles, couldn't use upgrades, couldn't choose class - absolute certified trash

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[wide shore]

It’s fun to not try so hard all the time.

[violet inlet]

Yea you right they never updated the test range for the new vehicles

But bf4 wasnt that many vehicles so was easy to account for them

Bf4 also didnt add the new vehicles tho

[soft kayak]

well there were a lot but they were all clones

[hardy kestrel]

What? They never even included the old ones, lol! You got one tank and one MAA to choose from and then two planes

[wide shore]

Kinda like how enlisted is for me rn. Easy to digest game. The bots are dumb but it feels good to rack up 60+ kills on Normandy with an MG42. Can just turn off your brain and enjoy the game for what it is.

[soft kayak]

motorcycle, bomber, hovercraft, hover tank, snowmobile, buggy

[wide shore]

I never used the BF4 test range cause the game took forever to fuckin load it.

[violet inlet]

Yea to the test range hipefully they do add all the vehicles but bfv was defs as upgrade to test range

Turns out if i enabled admin access to the bf4 exe it loads 4x faster

[tardy olive]

It did?

[violet inlet]

Wish i knew that like 7 years ago

Ye even on ssd i always was last to load in

Until i allowed admin access

[wide shore]

I play on console. So yeah. BF4 load times are abysmal. So is BF1.

[violet inlet]

Bfv is smart how it hides the loading

[wide shore]

BFV was faster even on my old HDD. But on the Series X it loads dumb fast.

[tardy olive]

I play on console too... Maybe our standards are diff

[violet inlet]

Maybe you dont remember cause it defs got way more optimised with there newer stuff

[wide shore]

Idk. Maybe I’m just used to the SSD life now.

[violet inlet]

Even on pc

[spark acorn]

SSD just changes all that, 100%.

[wide shore]

It is very nice. And with 2042 actually being optimized for newer consoles, it should be even quicker to get into games

[spark acorn]

Absolutely.

[wide shore]

Cause RN if you’ve got BFV on your SSD, you still gotta wait like over a minute to start playing.

Cause everyone else has to load in

[spark acorn]

Yeah that's why I am not going back for HDD for my games ever again.

[soft kayak]

with 2042 actually being optimized for handicapped by newer consoles

[spark acorn]

I have a PC with an m.2 NVME SSD and it changes a lot of things.

[sullen badge]

Any fears of hacks for PC since source code hack? Anti-cheat?

[wide shore]

[soft kayak]

yes why isnt this discussed more often.

[violet inlet]

Source code hacks aint much of an issue for online games

[soft kayak]

team fortress 2

[sullen badge]

@soft kayak not sure if sarcasm or no lol

[violet inlet]

Csgo was fine

[wide shore]

Not like hackers wouldnt find a way to break shit anyway.

[soft kayak]

no sarcasm

tf2 has been infested by thousands of aimbotting bots since its source code leak

[violet inlet]

Everyone was freaking about csgos source code hack, but that didnt mean shit since they couldnt hack the servers

Tf2 got an update that fixed the bots

[soft kayak]

and theyre still there

[violet inlet]

Tf2s problem was that it was neglected

[wide shore]

I’m just hoping that they have an option (if crossplay is even coming) to turn off pc to console crossplay.

[sullen badge]

And since we don't know if third party servers are a thing not like we can jump ship to unofficial admined servers

[spark acorn]

It's always been neglected oof.

[spark acorn]

God I hope not.

[soft kayak]

the tf2 classic mod is getting more updates than tf2

[violet inlet]

Thats why csgo was fine because they got a team on that still tf2 has like 2 people who jump on n off of it

[arctic grove]

I am from Izmir. I did ancestry dna test and learned i’m 80 percent greek. My whole world has changed. I tried to commit suicide but couldn’t do it. Now i have to live like this. But after that i decide it is a zionist game. I suggest people don’t do dna test it’s lie bcs i’m 100% turkish thnx

[wide shore]

I’m not looking forward to keyboard/mouse vs aim assist wars.

[tiny wharf]

Okay?

[sullen badge]

I'm on PC and I think it's fine

[violet inlet]

Keyboard n mouse will always will

[arctic grove]

[sullen badge]

They just have to get aim assist right

Not like that COD shit fest

[soft kayak]

console is fresh meat

[spark acorn]

Nah, it would be a great opportunity for 128 player servers to be filled up much quickly.

[violet inlet]

People treat aim assist like its aimbot cause they dont wanna admit they got destroyed

[arctic grove]

why do you pc think that mouse and keyboard better

controller made to play games

[spark acorn]

Forced crossplay is a way to go, and this is mostly a casual game (in my opinion).

[tiny wharf]

Keyboard and mouse is easier

[violet inlet]

Cause ur not rotating a stick in a vague direction

[wide shore]

You can be more precise with a mouse.

[violet inlet]

Ur moving a mouse exactly where u know a shot is gonna line up

[upper sage]

it's not even that, aim assist of any kind does not belong on PC servers. Period.

[soft kayak]

mouse is much better for aiming. FPS games were designed for PC first, and halo was the first to really get it working on console

[spark acorn]

And still miss, hah.

[granite lotus]

Cross-play w/pc good or bad?

[violet inlet]

Theres a reason why controllers need aim assist

[sullen badge]

@violet inlet what makes you say it isn't much of an issue for online games

[soft kayak]

controllers, however, are much better for movement IMO

[wide shore]

Plus the keyboard allows for a lot more movement. Unless you have a controller with back buttons, it’s very hard to jump while looking on a controller.

[violet inlet]

They need crossplay but input locked to what ur ussing

So i can play with console friends on pc

If i use a controller on it

[wide shore]

Let’s just hope they do crossplay at all

[arctic grove]

they do not have aim assist i am console player and no aim assist

[wide shore]

Cause idk why it hasn’t been addressed yet

[upper sage]

they don't need cross-play, BF4 is still doing fine

[arctic grove]

only on campaign do console have aim assist

[violet inlet]

Cause source code is only for client side not server side

[soft kayak]

based turk

[granite lotus]

lmao

[violet inlet]

Battlefields have aim assist tho on controller

[boreal acorn]

IM THE ONLY BASED TURK

[violet inlet]

Even on pc theres an aim assist option if u use a controller

[boreal acorn]

🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

Wtf

[granite lotus]

[gleaming wharf]

👀

[tiny wharf]

Lol

[soft kayak]

🇬🇷

[granite lotus]

Bogos Binted?

[wide shore]

BF4 is only doing better now on console because of the 2042 hype. It is gonna die down again once the game launches. Last year the only servers I seen on BF4 were 24/7 Shanghai/Golmud/Locker 1k ticket servers.

[boreal acorn]

Photos printed?

CCC

[arctic grove]

real erdoğan

[boreal acorn]

yes

[violet inlet]

I may be wrong about aim assist tho i never tried a controller on bf since bf1 on ps4

[granite lotus]

how to get better at battfields games?

[sullen badge]

Also BF4 came out in a time when games didn't widely utilise crossplay

[soft kayak]

aimbot

[wide shore]

Not to mention, rounds in 2042 are gonna have twice the player count. And unless dice wants everyone playing against bots in 2 years, crossplay will absolutely help keep the game alive.

[granite lotus]

but what if on 360?

[sullen badge]

@wide shore unless they put the bots in because they cbf with crossplay

[arctic grove]

im not trying to go against pc tryhards on console

[wide shore]

[violet inlet]

I feel like they want the success of cod mw and are gonna do what that game did right

[soft kayak]

I can still get a 70 player match on 1942, a game with no official servers and no store page on origin

[sullen badge]

But I suppose players bring revenue not bots

[wide shore]

Every game will have a niche

[tiny wharf]

Erdoğaann bey

[arctic grove]

it's not as if the game will e completely unplayable without full servers

[soft kayak]

point is that these games last longer than youd think

[tiny wharf]

Nasılsın moruk?

[violet inlet]

There are no 1942 servers in au tho

[soft kayak]

F

[granite lotus]

spawn trap the bots

[wide shore]

But it won’t be the full experience.

[sullen badge]

1942 is how old now

[soft kayak]

19 years I think

[sullen badge]

Yea that's pushing it abit

[arctic grove]

i barely notice the difference between full matches and matches with only 10 players

[violet inlet]

1942 has bots tho

So i can still play it without people

[soft kayak]

not on the multiplayer servers

[arctic grove]

in bf1

[wide shore]

I definitely do.

[arctic grove]

in bf5 it can be noticeable

[sullen badge]

I'm in Australia too and I think it'll be fine

And I'm sure in this day and age they'll use crossplay

[spark acorn]

Yeah, same.

[sullen badge]

Except for maybe older gen consoles

[violet inlet]

1942 n bf2 have bots tho so i can still play those games, if they didnt have bots could never play them

[arctic grove]

anyway 32 players seems like it's enough

[soft kayak]

there are still servers

[arctic grove]

that's about as many that are needed for a full game

[violet inlet]

Not for me

[soft kayak]

oh right au

[wide shore]

Games grind to a halt if they’re not full. And on 2042 where maps are probably twice the size of BF maps we’re used to, it’s gonna feel like a ghost town if it’s not over 100 players

[violet inlet]

Yea is super necessary

[arctic grove]

bf1 has not grinded to a halt

[violet inlet]

Bf1 still has full servers

[soft kayak]

bf4 servers feel fine with 40 people. 2042 would do fine with 80

[wide shore]

You can still find full games on BF1 tho

[violet inlet]

He talking about like 6 years down the line or longer

[soft kayak]

he is baiting you

[arctic grove]

server limits are like 32 people though

[sullen badge]

If this game stands up to anything like BF4 then I'm sure a solid player base will be of no concern for years to come

[violet inlet]

No they are not

What servers do u play on that are 32 player locked?

[arctic grove]

all servers ive played in bf1

[wide shore]

I believe so too. Crossplay would just make it much easier for that to be achieved.

[soft kayak]

and if it doesnt, then no point in keeping it alive for years anyway

[violet inlet]

U may be playing on tdm or small player count mode in bf1

[soft kayak]

he is baiting you dude

[arctic grove]

32 players is not small

[sullen badge]

Well they said they wanted 2042 to be a "games with a service" kind of game

[arctic grove]

bro i literally said that 32 players is the max player count

[sullen badge]

So that hopefully means they'll look toward the future

[violet inlet]

Yea bfv was games as a service to but they abandoned it

[sullen badge]

Yea but bfv was a shit show

[violet inlet]

Bf2042 they wont let that happen again tho

[soft kayak]

this is EA. Having faith is a mistake

[granite lotus]

is there anything good about bfv?

[arctic grove]

uh not really it's more like dice

[wide shore]

RIP Russian front.

[soft kayak]

movement, skill trees, gunplay

[violet inlet]

I think they know this battlefield needs to be good expecially after bfvs controversy

[wide shore]

Good destruction, good gunplay

[soft kayak]

lot of good things in v drowned out by a bad package

[violet inlet]

I love V is my fav battlefield, but u can tell they really fucked up in some places

[wide shore]

Squad revives, fortifications, not needing to carry a syringe as a gadget to revive.

[violet inlet]

And didnt make up on their promises for the game

[soft kayak]

Biggest one for me: BFV factions arent literal clones of eachother

[violet inlet]

Bfv was amazing it was how they supported it imo

[wide shore]

And BFV movement is some of the best feeling FPS movement out there.

[violet inlet]

Remember they were saying the coop mode would be randomised and different every time

[granite lotus]

Syrette gun

[soft kayak]

bfv suffered from lack of content, balance issues, bugs, and inconsistent atmosphere.

[wide shore]

Oh, and contextual 3rd person animations rule too

[violet inlet]

But then the coop came out n was some dog shit

Bfv feels like the most balanced to me tho lol

I play every class in that game

[wide shore]

I also think the squad point mechanic was cool af also

[violet inlet]

Yea bfv is awesome just needed better support

[wide shore]

BFV actually had a lot of great stuff.

[soft kayak]

Assault in bfv is just good in almost all combat situations. Meanwhile support has a ton of different roles slapped onto it that leas to an unfocused class nobody plays

[violet inlet]

The only game where people actually use smokes properly because they encouraged it in the base medic kit

[sullen badge]

@soft kayak it seems to me people don't talk about hacks and anti cheat because they're probably not overly comcerned

[soft kayak]

after bfv they should be

[wide shore]

looks at my 207hrs on support

[violet inlet]

Support lmgs n mmgs are insane and the ammo box to refill gadgets is essential in an organised squad

[sullen badge]

But like it was said, they really need to hit this bf on the head

[violet inlet]

Brah the bar in bfv is insane

[soft kayak]

in an organised squad
Sir this is battlefield

[violet inlet]

I play with mates

Mostly

I love all the classes in bfv

[sullen badge]

If you're in au, I'll be your mate

[violet inlet]

Ye bro im in au same user name

[arctic grove]

bfv suffered from liberalism

lets be honest

[violet inlet]

I am taken a break tho cause last two months have been bf non stop

[sullen badge]

Lmao, I sent you a discord friend request

[violet inlet]

Yea i got it bro

[wide shore]

Nah. BFV suffered from killing support early. And a stupid TTK change.

[sullen badge]

I'll hit you up for 2042

[violet inlet]

Yessir

[granite lotus]

liberals you say?

[arctic grove]

the libs

[soft kayak]

it could have had no liberalism and still be a steaming pile of ass

[arctic grove]

fair enough

[violet inlet]

Yea the negative back lash of the ttk change destroyed all the good will the pacific update got

Like they shot themselves in the foot so bad

[wide shore]

Plus they should’ve just used the E3 Trailer as the launch trailer. Cause the BFV reveal trailer was dogshit

[violet inlet]

Why would they do that? The one time where people were praising the game

[soft kayak]

Unknown battles would have been cool if they were portrayed properly and if the player was given context like in bf1

[granite lotus]

Infinite Warfare trailer > bfv trailer

[arctic grove]

all i know is that bf5 had a woman with a claw in it and that looked stupid af

[violet inlet]

I like the maps in bfv tho are maps not in every other ww2 games

[hardy kestrel]

One of the things that I took away from the July 8 EA presentation that scared me was they talked about the Live service in sort of 3 month increments and I suspect they were talking about content. And that's fine but for me the real vision and the big benefit to consumers for a Live service is not having to wait 3 months for a patch to fix bugs and balance issues (bugs especially) - The industry has GOT to get better in terms of having faster turn around times with bugs/balance stuff and 3 months isn't going to cut it

[sullen badge]

I think maybe they are better off doing modern or post modern times stuff

[wide shore]

I feel like the TTK change is what actually murdered the game. If they had not done that, a lot of the playerbase I feel like would’ve stuck around. Especially since the pacific was received so well.

[soft kayak]

I dont think it will be 3 months with no patch, just 3 months between updates

[arctic grove]

i think the teams that worked on 5 should be flushed from DICE

[violet inlet]

Thats how bf has always done dlc tho just this time dlc is "free"

[arctic grove]

and never rehired

[soft kayak]

in bf1 it was 6 months between dlcs

[wide shore]

Nah. BFV has a lot of great stuff. The marketing team though, maybe.

[sullen badge]

Didn't 2042 have different staff? Like the guys that worked on bf4?

[violet inlet]

No thats ripple effect now

[soft kayak]

no.

[sullen badge]

Ah

[violet inlet]

They are making the classic maps

[soft kayak]

All of DICE worked on 2042

[hardy kestrel]

Maybe that will be true this time around but for BFV the vehicle bugs lingered for MONTHS - and I mean serious stuff too

[soft kayak]

sure. BFV was also a trainwreck in most aspects

[violet inlet]

Yea bf2042 was all hands on

[hardy kestrel]

A TRUE live service needs to be much nimbler when it comes to fixing bugs - like 1-2 week turnaround

[wide shore]

Stockholm studio worked on both BF4 and BFV. Let’s not act like BFV was made by some lesser studio

[hardy kestrel]

Maybe a month for bigger stuff

[violet inlet]

Kloud it will be updated all the time

[soft kayak]

any game does

[violet inlet]

The months are just the dlc

They will not patch op characters tho so most people buy them first lol

[wide shore]

It’s not like folk who worked on BF4 were just sitting in the wings, watching a different studio make BFV. Then came back to work on 2042. Lol

[sullen badge]

I wish

[hardy kestrel]

Let's hope so but traditionally that has not been the case - you've gotten a few bug fixes but no where near as many as should have been cleaned up

[soft kayak]

"the stasis effect": where profit incentives lead the game to be purposefully imbalanced.

In 10 years the fps scene will look like China's

[granite lotus]

lmg, deployable cover strats tho

[wide shore]

Not every game is gonna be a hit with everybody.

I hate BF4

But everyone else loves it

[hardy kestrel]

I fucking hate that shit

[sullen badge]

Bf4 balancing was pretty ok in my books with the odd exception

[copper jungle]

why

[sullen badge]

Guns wise

[hardy kestrel]

It's one thing to unintentionally launch a weapon and have it be OP but you know all too often it happens purposefully

[wide shore]

I don’t like the maps, don’t like levolution, don’t like the gun balance, don’t like suppression, don’t like all the lock ons.

[copper jungle]

I see

[wide shore]

But I still played it quite a bit.

It’s just farrr from my fav

[violet inlet]

Bf4 assualt weapons are obviously the best tho

[hardy kestrel]

Don't like lock ons?

[soft kayak]

For those that dont know: the most played fps game in the world, currently, is a free to play, pay to win counter strike clone called "Cross Fire". Most of China's multiplayer gaming scene is like this. With the slow push to mtx and free to play, id bet we're heading down that same road

[sullen badge]

Oh boy do I have news for you

[wide shore]

It’s not that I don’t like lock-ons. It’s just that there’s so many things that can lock onto you.

Half of my BF4 tank gameplay was accompanied by the sounds of lock-ons.

[soft kayak]

use the ecm jammer

[sullen badge]

Yea but that's china for you. They banned cryptocurrency just to release their own crypto coin

[hardy kestrel]

You are sadly correct - there will be attempts to resist and perhaps it won't be blatant but I agree 100% that the lure of cash will be too strong to resist. And Lawmakers will take a hands off approach to regulation because it is entertainment and "just games" and the VG lobby will be strong enough to push its weight around

[wide shore]

Tbf, I’ve found the active shield to be more useful

[soft kayak]

This has nothing to do with the government. This is just the most profitable way to sell games, so long as the people accept it.

[violet inlet]

I went back to bf4 and realised the vehicles were alot more balanced than i thought

[hardy kestrel]

I hear you. For me that's part and parcel with playing a modern warfare game.

[violet inlet]

Like u kitted out a tank for vehicle destroying or anti infantry couldnt be best at both

[wide shore]

You mean cause hitting a tank with an RPG actually does damage

[violet inlet]

But i hate playing as infantry on the maps with like 8 tanks a team or something

[soft kayak]

youre gonna have a hard time finding a legal justification to ban p2w games

[violet inlet]

Bf4 had less tanks so easier to balance imo

[sullen badge]

Not gonna lie, anti vehicle rounds still work pretty good on fleshy meatbags

[wide shore]

It is. And it’s something I’m just gonna have to accept with 2042, and I totally understand that.

[violet inlet]

Ye but u miss out on the meaty splash

U need to get like direct hirs

[hardy kestrel]

Not about banning per se but about "truth in advertising" If something is P2W it should be more clearly communicated. It's tricky because on the one hand I REALLY support freedom when it comes to what game artists want to do. Like there was this one game I can't remember but the developer could actually come in and mod your game and make it different just to spook you and stuff and it was decried by some as him playing God and I think that's crazy! Doing innovative stuff like that is what gaming is all about! But on the other hand, this sort of stuff that the Chinese companies (and others TBF) are doing is clearly manipulative and toxic. There should be more transparency required so that consumers can make educated decisions.

[soft kayak]

Yeah, good luck rewriting all of advertising law for that.

[hardy kestrel]

You're a wise and chill dude and that's a mature and honest answer. MUCH respect

[tropic granite]

BF4 vehicle experience was just getting locked on 99% of the time

I loved annoying the attack helis with the Igla

[upper sage]

I seen an article that said real life ads are coming to games soon, that shit's gonna be annoying. Freaking ads everywhere these days with no escape

[wide shore]

I think it’s also that BF4 never really felt like the perfect storm to me. There was always something, whether I didn’t like the map, or the gunplay ect. 2042 looks more promising in regards to maps and if the gunplay and movement is as good as BFV lock-ons can be easily overlooked.

For me, that is

[spark acorn]

That's already happened with one of EA's latest sport games.

[wide shore]

That already exists. Lots of games have done it,

[hardy kestrel]

I have no problem if there are like billboards and passive stuff but making me watch ads in game?

[wide shore]

Hell, in the Skate games you got ads for like Monster and Miracle Whip and shit.

I remember a few years ago a WWE 2K game had a season pass, where you didn’t even get the content. You just paid to buy the DLC at a discount.

[soft kayak]

earn more in game currency to display an add on your tank

[wide shore]

Pay for ad space on the top of the tuk tuk

We better hope nobody from EA is reading this

[hardy kestrel]

Part1: I think a big part of the annoyance beyond just the lock tone was the mobility/critical hit that came with them - instead of them being 100% of the time they should have been like 20-30% and then it wouldn't have been that bad. Part 2: The ARM was so bad for so long and then they finally made it a lot more reasonable BUT then they made the PRM missile like 10x worse because you could fire, then switch to guns so the lock was off and then switch back to missile and get the lock again and then the target had like .5 second to react and then they get hit with a missile that did like 1.75x more damage than the ARM, lol! Don't know what they were thinking!

[hardy kestrel]

Ngl I wouldn't entirely mind having a miracle whip ad on my tank. It would be truly demoralizing to have a pride obliterating death courtesy of Miracle Whip

JK of course

[wide shore]

Death by Miracle Whip sounds legit to me