battlefield-2042

[dim blade]

I feel like it's gonna be like the BF1 event

[arctic grove]

Damn

[fiery solar]

what happened in bf1

[arctic grove]

Ps4 pro will be fine

My ps4 already sound like an helicopter

[dim blade]

Many celebrities, different gameplay POV, Snoop Dogg high af no idea what he is doing

[arctic grove]

Mine is a slim LMAO

[fiery solar]

yeah only true gamers have the slim ps4

[arctic grove]

Mine to a slim can run it

[dim blade]

The PS4 1TB Slim Model?

[fiery solar]

yes

[lofty relic]

It'll run it, but you'll miss out on the 64v64 battles

[arctic grove]

Yes

[fiery solar]

imagine

who would want to miss out on 64v64 action

[dim blade]

Lol i had it, i bought it exlusively for RDR2 cause i could not wait for the PC version

sold it next year lmfao

[arctic grove]

Depends idk how rules of covid is out there

[fiery solar]

fortnite has 100 players and destruction : (

[arctic grove]

I'll catch those battles later rn I just wanna play with the lads

[lofty relic]

This. That's why I grew more desperate to get a PS5. My backup plan was to play on my PC instead, but I prefer not to

[arctic grove]

I'll get myself a nice PS5 later

[fiery solar]

fire storm 256 player update

[dim blade]

Fortnite destruction is nothing compared to the Frostbite destruction

[lofty relic]

That's fair man. Let me know if you wanna play sometime after it launches

[arctic grove]

I'll tell you bro

We shall form a fantastic duo!

[dim blade]

I'm just hoping my PC can handle the 128 player mode

I'm good on everything except GPU

[fiery solar]

i still question how companies in 2007 were able to make robots with 30,000 moving parts

[lofty relic]

Yes, with my 1.03 KD and your X KD we'll be unstoppable

[arctic grove]

INDEED

[opal compass]

i hope crossplay is a thing now. just to hunt you two

[arctic grove]

Btw I've seen an ACE 23 in the trailer 👀

This means one thing

[arctic grove]

Play in low settings

[fiery solar]

no

[arctic grove]

THE GUN LIVES!

[dim blade]

I hope they will break their silence about crossplay on EA Play

[dim blade]

I intend to once it releases

[arctic grove]

[fiery solar]

ill never play battlefield on low settings thats why i got an rtx gpu

[lofty relic]

Haha, I'll make sure to hop on PC and play with you sometime regardless. I need to actually use my 3070 for something, it's not like WoW was pushing it...

[arctic grove]

hello humans

[dim blade]

Elitist 😠

jk

[arctic grove]

Hello numbers

[fiery solar]

WoW only works with 3090s

[full axle]

Lol rtx gpu more like overpriced gaming junk

[arctic grove]

Its 2021 majority of games doing cross play

[arctic grove]

[fiery solar]

i got it for $100 above msrp

[lofty relic]

[fiery solar]

😎

[dim blade]

Oi, PC users

[lofty relic]

My previous gpu, GTX680, probably could've handled the new WoW expansion, but I didn't wanna risk it

[arctic grove]

If you wanna test your rtx to the max put a lot of tnt's on a minecraft world

[dim blade]

800$ for an used RTX 3060 (Used for like 3 months, no mining)

Worth it?

sorry 800€

[fiery solar]

no

[dim blade]

So like 912$

[lofty relic]

I don't have minecraft :<

[arctic grove]

i have 2 rtx 3090 .

[full axle]

I'll stick to my 1080ti that I purchased for 300usd and can resell almost for double that lol

[fiery solar]

300 i thought they are 700

[arctic grove]

Oh that's a lil sad m8 😔

[arctic grove]

Watch The Terminator factory scene you won't be suprised.

Then I have another Ideia

[opal compass]

i got your k/d now vic. just turned 180 degrees

[arctic grove]

Get blender

[dim blade]

I mean right now i have GTX 1070

It can run whatever i want at 1080p

Hopefully BF2042 too

[lofty relic]

Haha that's really good though

[lofty relic]

Barely play games on PC these days tbh. I do want to get flight sim though just for fun

[opal compass]

even tho something is not right with that. but ey, i don't mind

[full axle]

Bf2042 says recommended spec gpu as being 1060

[opal compass]

33k kills 16k deaths

[naive trellis]

RTX Shaders, great experience.

[opal compass]

thats not 3,01 k/d

[lofty relic]

Confooz

[arctic grove]

Indeed 🤝

[fiery solar]

ever since i upgraded minecraft has gotten 40 fps

[arctic grove]

Oh that's a good choice man

Flight sim is fun

[arctic grove]

Microsoft flight sim watch out for kamikaze trolls on that game

[fiery solar]

its online?

[arctic grove]

Yeah

[lofty relic]

Wait you can fly with others? lol

[fiery solar]

nice

[opal compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446371403445436426/860870629677989918/KetsuekiSaiko_BF4Stats.png no matter how i turn this, thats not right

[lofty relic]

I'd prefer flying alone

[mortal raft]

I got one for MSRP

[arctic grove]

Wait there's MP? On flight??

[fiery solar]

nowadays getting a gpu at msrp or close is a blessing

[arctic grove]

Yeah

[opal compass]

thats a 2.0 k/d ish

[lofty relic]

Very nice KD, although I agree 3.01 seems incorrect

[fiery solar]

i think i have the highest kd here

wait the lower is better correct?

[lofty relic]

Yes it's like golf

[fiery solar]

ah i beat everyone here

[arctic grove]

Have you guys heard of a player called Sabelo?

[opal compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446371403445436426/860871621786468352/Zaskaar_BF4Stats.png this one is correct tho

[arctic grove]

That man is a machine

[opal compass]

thats my alt acc right there

[lofty relic]

Yeah looks about right

[opal compass]

player level is the best tho

[lofty relic]

Nice

[full axle]

How do you have a kd of 3.01 but are going 33k for 16k

That makes no sense

[lofty relic]

Math

[mortal raft]

My K/D is mostly pulled down by my very early days where BF4 was pretty much my first shooter

[lofty relic]

It's not for everyone

[urban nimbus]

Same.

[lofty relic]

Was stats reset a thing in recent Battlefields? I can't remember

[arctic grove]

I hate my life

[full axle]

Whaat

[lofty relic]

I do remember with BF3 Premium you were able to reset your stats if you wanted to

[full axle]

Rip

[opal compass]

same with bf4

[lofty relic]

Ahh

[fiery solar]

my -94.06kd is still kicking

[mortal raft]

Eh, but I did prefer to keep my stat history

[opal compass]

thats probably why it gets displayed wrong

[lofty relic]

Same, never did reset

[arctic grove]

mu kd is getting pulled down because I'm bad

[past pewter]

Ahh yes the deaths

[fiery solar]

131 kills and 100,000+ deaths

[lofty relic]

Wait we're in #battlefield-2042 I thought this was general chat

When did I get here even

[arctic grove]

Lol

I dunno I thought it was general too

[fiery solar]

i brought you all here

[arctic grove]

Seems so peaceful

[fiery solar]

there is no escape

[onyx oar]

vic is dazed and confused someone take care of him

[lofty relic]

i r too old

[mortal raft]

This Chat turns general so often

[lofty relic]

Even though I'm young, under 30

[onyx oar]

The future is now old man

[lofty relic]

[arctic grove]

Dont worry Vic drink Wine and you should be fine

Just like the queen Elizabeth

[lofty relic]

Ugh I will have already turned 28 by the time BF2042 is out

[arctic grove]

Damn

[lofty relic]

I never drink wine, I only cook with wine

[arctic grove]

Oh you're a fine man with you're recipes

I salute you

[onyx oar]

I always cook with wine, sometimes I even put it in the food

[lofty relic]

It's a great ingredient

[arctic grove]

Indeed

[mortal raft]

I mostly use it for Risotto

Sometimes sauces as well though

[lofty relic]

Definitely good use, white wine perhaps?

[mortal raft]

Of course

Red wine Risotto sounds cursed

[lofty relic]

Hah yeah I thought so

Been experimenting with a port wine sauce that's really good, just 3 ingredients: red port wine, sherry vinegar and butter

[arctic grove]

Ah yes gentleman cooking time

[lofty relic]

And some msg for good measure

[civic mason]

What the heck are peeps talking about here?

[mortal raft]

Sounds good

[lofty relic]

msg in everything for good measure

[lofty relic]

BF2042 secret recipe

[civic mason]

[arctic grove]

We are talking about why wine is one of the best sauces ever

And its healthy too

[past pewter]

Bf1 I have a Loft deaths

[civic mason]

[arctic grove]

This aswell

[civic mason]

Loft deaths

Loft

[past pewter]

I have 7,693 deaths I bf1

So I’m good

[arctic grove]

Indeed

[lofty relic]

Sounds alright

[past pewter]

6.009 kills

[lofty relic]

When I got PS5 it shows how many hours you have played each game, even on PS4

Apparently over 700h on BF1

[mortal raft]

I got 8k deaths and 10k kills in BF1

[lofty relic]

Which I didn't expect

[mortal raft]

Have a lot less playtime there than in 4 though

[lofty relic]

I only had 500h on BF4, and that was on PC

[mortal raft]

Only 178 hours, damn

[lofty relic]

700+ in BF3 on PS3

[mortal raft]

I have 700 in BF4

[lofty relic]

And.... BFV?

[mortal raft]

Sadly the BF app doesn't support that game and I'm not home to look

[lofty relic]

Ahh

[mortal raft]

More than in BF1, but still much less than in 4 though

[lofty relic]

Yeah that's fair

They were both different from BF4

[mortal raft]

My guess is 300 hours

[lofty relic]

Way more than me

I didn't dislike BFV at all tbh, but I think I just got tired of multiplayer games at that point, and it lacked the sandbox feel I had wanted since BF1 didn't have it either

[somber hinge]

bfv is actujal

[lofty relic]

According to PS5 I only spent 4h in BFV which seems way too little

[somber hinge]

stinky

poo

[lofty relic]

But I probably had 15+ hours on the PC version

[somber hinge]

imagine 2 dynamite and a AT grenade blowing up at the same time does like 80dmg to a tank

very balanced gameplay

[lofty relic]

I can't remember much of that

[somber hinge]

tanks where just broken

you finally sneak up to have to put 2 dynamite on him throw a AT grenade

then switch to a luncher

and shoot it again

[mortal raft]

If it was early on it can be fun to come back for a bit.
Got at least some new content, the Pacific update was good.

[sacred depot]

thats happened to me with a tiger

[somber hinge]

all tanks should die to 2 dyanmite and a AT grendae

[sacred depot]

needless to say it did put me off that game and made me try bf4

[somber hinge]

actually getting that close to them it hard af

[sacred depot]

best decision ever tbh

[lofty relic]

Oh yeah I do remember that now haha, it was a whole process

[somber hinge]

especially that they get third person view

[nova idol]

AT in bfv sucks ass except lunge mine

[somber hinge]

3rd person view tank is near impossible to sneak up on

[nova idol]

But you can only carry one of those

Panzerfaust dealing 5 damage moment

[somber hinge]

idk man anti tank shit in bfv was trash

made tanks way to op

[lofty relic]

Yeah it was mostly early on and then I tried a few new maps when they came out. But I haven't played multiplayer stuff since outside of WoW, so I think I'll come back to BF2042 instead

[somber hinge]

hope 2042 isn't like that

[nova idol]

Once I had a panzerfaust glance off a tank and do 3 damage

3

[jovial jay]

2042 is filled with tech

So I think we'll get a lot more way to do anti armor

[nova idol]

. . . <- this many points of damage

[mortal raft]

The lunge mine is good

[arctic grove]

is it bad i havent slept and i have a muay thai class in 3 hours

[lofty relic]

Yeah the riccochet thing was weird

[nova idol]

Lunge mine is cool

[somber hinge]

sometimes my STICKY dynamite would also slide off the tank when it drove away xd

very well coded

[lofty relic]

It made your shots deal 3 damage

[next finch]

press t to burn tank

[mortal raft]

I don't think a single soldier should have an easy time taking down a tank

[somber hinge]

I do

bf is a casual game

team play barely ever happens

[arctic grove]

casual u say

[somber hinge]

you think I can get my mindless bot squad

[arctic grove]

have u seen how sweaty bf 4 has got

[somber hinge]

to help me kill a tank

[nova idol]

I think that infantry should be able to damage a tank

[mortal raft]

Casual, but not THAT casual

[somber hinge]

bf4 is sweaty without teamplay

[arctic grove]

true

but

[somber hinge]

you play solo

[arctic grove]

a single person can take out a tank

[nova idol]

in bfv tanks get a big fuck off cannon and like 3 mg slots

[somber hinge]

you play for yourself all game

[arctic grove]

and its annoying

[mortal raft]

What's even the point of a tank if just one person is enough to destroy it

[somber hinge]

tank have 3rd person view and a lot of movement speed

[arctic grove]

why should one person be able to take out an armored vehicle ?

[somber hinge]

if a solider can sneak upto you then you deserve it

[jovial jay]

but a good team can wreck a lot of stuff

[mortal raft]

And usually multiple people will attack a tank anyway. Doesn't require much coordination

[arctic grove]

i thought battlefields where semi realistic

[jovial jay]

it's just a matter of how to find one

[mortal raft]

I see players work together against tanks all the time in BFV

[arctic grove]

i mean in irl u dont see one person just mowing down tanks

[mortal raft]

That's on PC, not sure if console players are different

[somber hinge]

Imo tanks should be able to be killed by a solo anti tank player because if you have no team mates that are helping out then the tank is just broken op

[arctic grove]

why would a full team ignore a tank tho

[somber hinge]

and it happens way more often than not

[arctic grove]

think of that

[somber hinge]

I've been playing bfv since release and barely any mfker attacks tanks

[jovial jay]

irl there would be chatter on radio requesting advises and squad leader issuing orders, in battlefield there's only either LET'S SWEAT or the casual player

[mortal raft]

Thing is with 32 players there is bound to have multiple attack the tank

[somber hinge]

they just switch obj when they die

like cowards xd

[arctic grove]

i get what youre saying

but

bfv is dead

anyways

[somber hinge]

bf4 I can solo kill tanks anyway

[arctic grove]

thats bc the launchers are insane

and the tanks suck ngl

[somber hinge]

they dont at all on 4

[arctic grove]

only the anti air one is fun

imo)

[somber hinge]

tanks are very good on 4

[arctic grove]

eh

im just not a fan

of tanks

[mortal raft]

Yeah, BF4 with all the log on shit is a bit ridiculous for vehicles

[arctic grove]

or helis

[nova idol]

What

Did you just say the launchers are insane

[arctic grove]

on bf4

[nova idol]

Oh lol

[somber hinge]

hope 2042 vehicles get trashed on by launchers and anti launcher

[jovial jay]

the only DICE game where you can solo a tank with just about any weapon is Battlefront 2, since luckily blaster damage all surfaces

[somber hinge]

literally hate when vehicles are to op

Ruins infantry gameplay

[mortal raft]

Like you said

[arctic grove]

battlefield lobbies have 64 ppl in it

i dont think

64 ppl

would ignore a tan

tank

[somber hinge]

they do

[mortal raft]

BF is casual, I don't think it should go for perfect balance.
Having these powerful vehicles adds to the atmosphere and fun.

[arctic grove]

yeah until they get killed by it a few times

[somber hinge]

bf is my main game and I main killing tanks

and you'd be surprised how majority of people ignore tanks

[arctic grove]

well

u gotta keep in mind tanks are armored vehicles 1-2 rockets shouldnt blow them up

[past pewter]

Tanks are like bush campers

[arctic grove]

they cant make them made out of paper

plus

[somber hinge]

ye but getting close and stacking c4 into a rocket should

[arctic grove]

theres other team tanks

youre forgetting that

[mortal raft]

I play both vehicles and infantry a lot and don't know what you're talking about.
Unless it's tanks camping on the edge of the map

[arctic grove]

tank v tank

[flint jay]

Too real. There was a tank and a LAV and me and a mate were the only ones actually trying to RPG it, everyone else was too busy wanking themselves off by getting infantry kills

[jovial jay]

that's the case since they use rifles, I observed in BF2 where a pistol can destroy a tank, as soon as I appear somewhere they start to shoot me like heck

[arctic grove]

one c4 and a rocket shouldnt blow a tank up either imo

it should be like

3-4 rockets

[somber hinge]

should be 2 c4 and a rocket

[flint jay]

The only thing you can really do at that point is C4 jeep

[somber hinge]

if someone can get close enough to stack c4 you deserve to die

[mortal raft]

Camping tanks are awful and you can't get close to them, but normal gameplay they seem decently balanced and infantry does target them in my experience

[jovial jay]

not because they don't care, but mainly because their weapons don't do jack against the tank

[arctic grove]

still

[somber hinge]

hope they add some sort of thermite explosion for tanks in 2042

[arctic grove]

if they make tanks that weak

they might as well not even hae them

have

[somber hinge]

tanks aren't that weak

you can solo kill them in 4 and they're strong af

[arctic grove]

youre trying to make them get blown up in like 1 rocket

battlefield 4 is also

[somber hinge]

idk why you think they're weak you probably don't know how to play tank

[arctic grove]

8 years old?

im saying

[somber hinge]

and?

[arctic grove]

youre trying to make them weak

do u not listen

[somber hinge]

I'm not I'm trying to make them balanced xd

[flint jay]

A good tank won't get killed by one person, I'm decent with tanks and against like 4 people with RPGs and lock-ons it's so hard

[arctic grove]

youre trying to make them get blown up with one c4

[mortal raft]

Tank gameplay in BF4 is meh. BFV it's much more satisfying there, both fighting in and against them

[arctic grove]

hows that balanced

[somber hinge]

ping when I said 1 c4

[arctic grove]

dumbass

[somber hinge]

literally arguing with a child

[mortal raft]

The main problem with anti tank in BFV is that the attrition system has engineers not spawn fully decked out

[arctic grove]

either way im not arguing with you anymore you can go shit yourself some more because tanks arent made out of paper

[mortal raft]

Without the attrition system BFV tanks are well balanced honestly

[flint jay]

Arguing about what

Your not even arguing

2C4 and a rocket is reasonable

It's pretty hard to get C4 on a tank

Unless you go behind it secretly

[somber hinge]

i really is if they keep on the move

[desert osprey]

@frosty patio That guy don’t respect according to the rules

[nova idol]

The launchers suck in bfv

[jovial jay]

or maybe you guys should go to the frontline and observe live destruction and firing of a real tank 🤷‍♂️

[somber hinge]

if they're camping and you can actually get that close they deserve it

[flint jay]

That's why I never stop moving at objectives

[arctic grove]

what

[nova idol]

What

[arctic grove]

i got called a dumbass first so i simply said it back

[flint jay]

Ayo what

[arctic grove]

?

man comes out of no where and tries to snitch on me

LOL

[somber hinge]

join the military so you can come back and tell the devs how to destroy tanks irl

[desert osprey]

@frosty patio That guy do not respect according to the rules too

[flint jay]

Why did you tag me

[frosty patio]

DM modmail.

[desert osprey]

Ok 👌

[somber hinge]

stop being a baby mate

[night vessel]

Guys lets just be respectful to each others please. Thank You!

[arctic grove]

@scarlet veldt Yo can you you know release the beta early

[devout meadow]

ay, after playing early acess, does My progress start back from zero during the open beta for everyone or it continues until the end of the beta and then we start from zero on official release, or after the beta we can continue(i hope this is the thing)

[devout meadow]

My sense says : Never

[potent matrix]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[potent matrix]

rly?

[arctic grove]

😭

[devout meadow]

Alpha(?)

[arctic grove]

That’s harsh

[gleaming portal]

!when

[naive trellis]

You need to have certain roles to use that command

[arctic grove]

But do you some how played how does it look because I pre ordered it

[gleaming portal]

REEEEEEEEEE

[devout meadow]

man chill, I pre ordered it too, just wait for all the famous youtuber and streamer grind the alpha for about one month and then the early acess starts.. maybe

[arctic grove]

😭

[devout meadow]

Want the game to be 2077 instead of 2042? I dont think so

[arctic grove]

Fuck man we’d have flying tanks by then

Just like in bf4 with the Russian prototype

[devout meadow]

That's a feature

[arctic grove]

:/

[devout meadow]

nah its 2042, jump jets on tanks is possible

gg

Anti Air Vehicle With A Lazer Kill Switch Would Be Meta TBH

[arctic grove]

I want my phalanx gun

[unkempt jacinth]

cant wait for system requirements reveal

[bleak fiber]

!when

dies inside

[lucid goblet]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[lost spoke]

!balls

[rugged peak]

https://youtu.be/7Lic1RuIcSs

this in 2042

[silk belfry]

My book of Facts

Scout helis in BF2042 should be Vulnerable to Small arms fire

[bronze belfry]

!when

: - (

[somber hinge]

heli drivers should not have bulletproof glass so you can kill the driver

[silk belfry]

Don't matter

scout heli in 4 was OP

[bronze belfry]

its 2042 bullets can go through bullet proof glass 😛

[round thicket]

!downloadbattlefield2042beta

[silk belfry]

It was a fucking flying fortress that can easily be repaired and has high firepower, plus maneuverability

It flies faster than the attack helicopter with the same armor and its a smaller target

[bronze belfry]

i hope operations mode will be in 2042

[silk belfry]

it also has more firepower than the Attack helicopter thanks to engies being able to chill out with their launchers in the passenger seats

at least the attack helicopter only had 2 seats, the gunner and driver

[gritty walrus]

Operations was mad underrated

[silk belfry]

Id like to see grand operations

but better

[bronze belfry]

i think they will give us better gameplay of operations since its 64 vs 64 and huge map.

imagine

[silk belfry]

I mean

64 player rush is fucking garbage

Also I really hope the maps are designed to be good with RUSH AND CONQUEST

I can't tell you how much I fucking hated the conquest maps in Battlefield bad company 2 and battlefield 1

At least at that mode

[bronze belfry]

i hope it has the athmosphere of BF 1

[silk belfry]

Thats the problem with those IMO is the fact that BC2 and BF1 the maps were designed with RUSH/Operations in mind

Like Most maps in Bad company 2 were just Long ass Corridors

And thats why maps like Sinai desert suck on conquest

Now I mainly play conquest since I hate rush and modes like it, due to it simply being well lineier

[bronze belfry]

but one of the real thing is what we need is better Anti-Cheat XD

[gritty walrus]

I know its either love or hate but I do hope there is some semblance of the movement from BF4 still there

[silk belfry]

its more about throwing bodies onto a point

Movement in bad company 2 is fucking awkward

going back and playing BC2 for the first time in years puts a sour taste in my mouth

[indigo viper]

do y'all think an GTX 1650 would he able to run BF6?

[silk belfry]

but I do hope anti material rifles like the M95 return

[indigo viper]

battlefield 2024*

[bronze belfry]

i have 1650 super i think we can 🙂

[silk belfry]

Like I think that AT rifles should make a return, maybe not the BF5 Implementation

[bronze belfry]

i hope we will

[silk belfry]

Bad company 2s implementation was alright

One thing I hated about BF1 was that the land vehicles(the armored cars and motorbikes) got little to no use

[indigo viper]

well, i haven't bought anything yet

don't know when they will release requirements

[silk belfry]

and I kinda wish that in BF2042 that land vehicles like that would get more use

[bronze belfry]

if not yet get 1660 super

better option for game like this 🙂

[silk belfry]

Also maybe the MRAPs/armored cars in BF2042 should have better protection against mines, but against rockets

well... dead LMAO

I dunno Like AMRs as battle pickups put a sour taste in my mouth

Like the role of a AMR isn't to be a sniper rifle that shoots Big boolet

[gritty walrus]

they sucked cuz u couldnt jump out and kill fools like most battlefields. the animation time in between made u a for sure goner compared to 4

[silk belfry]

but its a rifle that is designed to shoot at bunkers,armored cars and vehicles.

[silk belfry]

That was a problem 4 had

Im glad 5 fixed that

BF1 had an enter animation, but no exit animation

C4 Jihading was fun

[gritty walrus]

I loved being able to hop off so quick

[silk belfry]

Although the field upgrades from battlefield bad company 2 were fucking great

I really never felt that they were unbalanced

at most at times they could be unfair

but they weren't like game breakingly OP

like in COD4 the counter to Jugg was stopping power and vice versa

But maybe in BF2042 some specialist could bring back some of the field upgrades from BFBC2

Like I love the idea of some specialist being geared towards differen

different playstyles, more than just "Hehe fun gadget!"

they should also have different movement speeds, HP pools and or armor levels

[somber hinge]

hehefun gadget pog

[silk belfry]

Maybe not to the point where its quite like TF2

[somber hinge]

If they dont have a anti vehicle spec then game bad

[silk belfry]

but having some elements from TF2(in terms of different characters being good/bad at certain task) would be nice.

[mortal raft]

God no to different hp and armor.

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[silk belfry]

I mean, My idea for a specialist dedicated to anti vehicle would be 1 who his special gadget is something like the ability to spawn a Auto cannon

Like really having a specialist under the Enginear class

[mortal raft]

I want my weapons to kill consistently

[silk belfry]

that can spawn emplaced guns would be nice

[mortal raft]

Would be terrible to balance too

[somber hinge]

I'd rather have some sort of thermite explosive that does massive dmg to vehicles tbh

[silk belfry]

I mean potential specialist I could imagine are

[somber hinge]

and trait having more explosives in launcher and more c4s

but ye shit like jug and stopping power should never be in 2042

[silk belfry]

UCAV Operator or something like that

[silk belfry]

It was in bad company 2

under "Magnum ammution"

[somber hinge]

doesn't mean it was good

[silk belfry]

and "Body armor"

It worked fine most of the time

[dark berry]

I'm rewatching Jackfrags' playthrough of the BF3 campaing cause I got kinda nostalgic and holy crap I'd love a Sergeant Blackburn specialist in BF2042

[silk belfry]

Id personally love to see some of the chars from BF3,4 and hardline return in that way

Like maybe a character who was the Criminal Enforcer in hardline as his own specialist

[dark berry]

idk if hardline characters would fit the theme but BF3/BF4 or even the Bad Company squad would be amazing

[silk belfry]

Honestly if you ask me all specialist should have a gadget, an active ability and a passive

[silk belfry]

Well my idea is that he talks and uses many of the same mannerisms as the criminal faction in hardline and even some of the same clothing options like the ski mask and leather jacket

but if you want you can put military gear on him

Like in first person view when spotting an enemy in hardline as a crim, they would often flip the bird to said enemy

and Say shit like "Pork chopper!"

Or "Thats a pork truck!"

[dark berry]

I don't want specialists to be super different from each other becasue that would probably create metas and I hate that

in terms of voice lines sure

[silk belfry]

I hate metas as well, so if theres a specialist that has lets say body armor, then his movement speed would be lowered or he would take extra damage from sniper rifles or explosives well and the fact that he would have no gadget special to him

Like maybe your movement speed as a "Juggernaut" character is gimped to like 60-80% of the normal and maybe you turn slower

but you take more damage to kill

Basically your character moves his gun slower/aims slower

but can tank damage

So you can't just like quickly to panic flick shots

or something like that

So things like switching weapons and such would also be slower

but thats cuz you get more HP and take less damage

or maybe you can't sprint

only walk

[dark berry]

too much of a disadvantage imo. I think specialists should be smth along the lines of "if you want this unique gadget you choose them". Other than that, the other gadgets should be available to everyone

[severe hill]

I want a suicide bomber

[silk belfry]

^

[dark berry]

you can create one

[silk belfry]

80 HP instead of 100

120% movement speed

Explodes on death

[severe hill]

The game might not allow to strap c4 on playerd

And car bombs

[silk belfry]

So like if a tank roles onto you

you blow up

[dark berry]

I thought you meant suicide bomber as in vehicles

[silk belfry]

making tank players be more careful

[dark berry]

air vehicles to be exact

no pats are supposed to be fighting for their lives. Suicide bomber is the exact opposite of that

[arctic grove]

release date seems so far away...

[severe hill]

Ok so me and Tom Henderson on dms talked about skyscraper destruction

[silk belfry]

They are willing to die for da cuase

[severe hill]

He said that only One tall skyscraper on Kaleidescope....so far.... is destructible not fully but partially and the rest you can chip sides off and make holes in. on Hourglass he said that a total of 6 low skyscrapers can come down or topple into other nerlarby structures.

[indigo viper]

is BF 2024 really gonna be a new bf4?

i love everything about the game, but older graphics and it's pretty dead

[dark berry]

no it's gonna be a BF2042

[indigo viper]

the gameplay is simply amazing

[indigo viper]

bruh, i had no idea

[silk belfry]

I kinda wish that BF2042 would have remakes of maps that sucked in BF4 but like better

like Alti range

and dragon valley

Like redesign them while keeping the same aesthetics

[livid tapir]

did you even see the Gameplay trailer?

[dark berry]

I really wanna know what the redacted mode is. So many possiblities

[silk belfry]

Honestly if Levolutions happen in BF2042

[dark berry]

Whaaaat Dragon Valley was sick

[silk belfry]

I just hope that they are actually like good

[silk belfry]

I meant dragon pass

LMAO

[dark berry]

oh

[silk belfry]

its funny cuz both maps have such similiar names

[astral marsh]

I heard there will be mode that will have like maps from previous battlefield games

[dark berry]

yeah true

[dark berry]

that's what the rumours have been about the Redacted mode

but we have to wait and see

they did say they were gonna talk about it at EA Play I think

Hazard Zone too?

[silk belfry]

A lot of the maps In BF4 and 1

fucking garbage

Like Floodzone?

FUCKING RAW

Sinai desert? FUCKING RAW

[astral marsh]

Yeh it’s sounds cool. Where you can play old maps with your friends and just fuck around

[severe hill]

Battlefield hub

[silk belfry]

Ballroom blitz, fao fortress, empires egde, rouge transmission, Altai range,

[severe hill]

Would be amzing

[somber hinge]

want damavand peak back

[severe hill]

And airship just flying over a modern city

[astral marsh]

And not worry about sweating in regular multiplayer

[dark berry]

What if it was actually maps based off of older BF games. Like, a BF3 map that combined many BF3 maps into one?

[silk belfry]

TBH I kinda want bohemoths to return in BF2042

Id be lying if I said I didn't

But Id wish for the Behemoths to actually be useful

[severe hill]

Airship Flys over Kaleidescope getting sucked up by tornado lol

[astral marsh]

That would be something lol

[dark berry]

Didn't enjoy BF1 that much honestly. The setting went too far back for me

[astral marsh]

I honestly really like the behemoths

Was always cool to me

[severe hill]

I wonder how earthquake works

[dark berry]

idk why, it's just that wackiness and old WW settings don't go great with eachother for me

[silk belfry]

Like Possible Behemoths, TITAN, Aircraft carrier, Mobile command fortress, nuclear submarine, Satellite

Honestly I really hope at some point cruisers, destroyers and battleships/carriers return

[dark berry]

Tectonic plates moving and interacting with eachother I'm pretty sure

[astral marsh]

Dude that would be dope. Have fucken modern vehicles behemoths

[severe hill]

No like Battlefield 2042

[silk belfry]

We haven't gotten derivable ships in in battlefield games since the original BF1942 from 2002

[dark berry]

Oh yeah I want a Titan mode would be sick

[severe hill]

The new frostbite and cpus.should handle that

[silk belfry]

you used to be able to drive the fucking Yammatto

the biggest battleship in HUMAN HISTORY

in BF1942

[dark berry]

oh lmao. Wait I didn't see anything about earthquakes

[severe hill]

Dice plans of it

[silk belfry]

you used to drive, walk around on the decks, use the various guns/cannons on these ships as well

[severe hill]

It won't be just tornadoes

[silk belfry]

like carriers in battlefield 4 are just floating islands that never move

and never do anything, even on carrier ASSualt

they never did anything

[dark berry]

Oh I know it's not just tornadoes, I just didn't know what else was planned

[silk belfry]

in BF2142 TITANS could at least move around the map and had gunner postions/drop pod cannons

[severe hill]

You can just crash the carrier onto land

[silk belfry]

but the commander HAD to move them

Like in BF1942 you used to be able to drive destroyers, subs, aircraft carriers, battleships and crusiers

[severe hill]

The cruise missles is going to have a huge fire ball explosion lmao

[silk belfry]

you also had mobile AA guns, B17 flying fortresses

mobile arty

[astral marsh]

Everything I heard so far from the game seems awesome except the whole operations thing

[silk belfry]

dive bombers

fighters

[dark berry]

I want the final maps of 2042 to be a prequele to 2142 honestly. Maybe lead into that as the next game

[silk belfry]

heavy fighters

[astral marsh]

Don’t wann to feel like I’m playing siege or something

Operators

[nova idol]

I wish we got Grand Operations

They say they want to tell the story through MP, GO is the perfect vehicle for that

But nooooo

[livid tapir]

ur not gonna

[dark berry]

Don't worry I don't think it's gonna be that bad.

[livid tapir]

I'm pretty sure it's gonna feel like apex

[severe hill]

I want to see what the renawl map looks like

[silk belfry]

Lanchang dam is fucking awful

[astral marsh]

Yeah I just wish I was just normal soldiers you customize instead of having specific operators

[dark berry]

You get a unique gadget and like a passive. That's pretty much it I think. You still have a free nade slot and a free gadget slot. And you can have whatever gun you want

[severe hill]

Levolution was ZERO

[slow herald]

Honestly yeah, the vehicle balance is a mess

[dark berry]

Can we make sure AAs aren't OP?

[astral marsh]

Yeah prob won’t be to bad

[silk belfry]

I just hate it

[dark berry]

It's not fun for jets to stay back all the time if there's an AA and people aren't taking it out

especially if it's sitting all the way back in their base

[severe hill]

Well jets are faster

[nova idol]

Bro jets move too fast to even be reliably shot by AA launchers

[dark berry]

AA Launchers? Have you guys not played BF4? The turrets on that thing are insane

[livid tapir]

It's a food chain

[bleak nebula]

mobile aa can kill them pretty quickly, 2-3 seconds

[livid tapir]

AA hunts jets

[slow herald]

Lmao jets are easy to kill even with heavy shells

[livid tapir]

jets hunts smaller creatures

[dark berry]

plus the whole passive lock on and all the different heat seekers where you don't get time to react

[livid tapir]

creatures hunt AA's

circle of life

[nova idol]

Oh you mean the tank? Just ram into it easy

[silk belfry]

I hate operation metro

At least BF4s ver

[nova idol]

Y

[dark berry]

"creatures" can't hunt AAs if the AAs are sitting all the way back

[silk belfry]

never played BF3

its fucking awful LMAO

[bleak nebula]

yeah the only issue is when mobile AA camp near base all day,and run back to base when someone tries to kill them

[dark berry]

like in Caspian Border, Lancang Dam,

etc

[severe hill]

Rogue transmission was a decent map

[silk belfry]

all it is, is just 2 teams grinding their dicks against each other with nobody able to get an upper hand through clever strategy

[flint jay]

Isn't that what anyone does with any vehicles though

You can't just sit there and let em kill ya

[silk belfry]

Like its fucking awful, its like the only way to win it is to just throw all of your team mates have to be on the same point at the same time

and not care about their KD

[bleak nebula]

yeah but the issue is that their base is out of bounds zone

[silk belfry]

Same with locker, its just people throwing each other into a murder fest with little to no pauses in between firefights

maps like Lanchange dam and some of the other maps

are awful cuz their so slow

[flint jay]

Ok ye that's true but then you can just use the olde c4 on a jeep trick

cheap shot for a cheap shot

[severe hill]

But now a days tanks are getting better at looking at their surroundings for c4 tricke

[silk belfry]

As for hardline maps, most of them were great

but personally I hated the Block

[flint jay]

tanks maybe but AA's are pretty easy to get with c4 jeeps

They are mostly looking up so they don't see you coming

[silk belfry]

I really kind disliked that map as it just suffered from the same problems as metro and locker

[dark berry]

nah, there's nothing balanced about mobile AAs. They can tear through infantry and air vehicles. They're only weak to Tanks and LAVs but that's it

sitting back mean they can't do anything to them

[flint jay]

true they do be OP

[severe hill]

Downtown, Everglades, and dustbowl are the best

[bleak nebula]

mobile AA is really good for infantry farming too, but you're fucked if you a tank manages to get close

[dark berry]

only played a bunch of the Hardline Beta. I only had a PS3 back then and didn't wanna bother with it

it was ok

[silk belfry]

YES I LOVE THEM

Downtown is like Shanghai but better in a lot of ways

[flint jay]

When I was playing with a few others we were just rolling around with 1 tank 1 LAV and a AA

OP as fok

[severe hill]

The cranes collapse was the best levolution

[flint jay]

3 man team

[dark berry]

I only now just realised why the map in BF3 CQ was called Operation 925

oh my god I feel dumb

[meager locust]

lmao i just realized that too

[dark berry]

I mean, smart naming but holy crap

I was too young buck then

and English isn't my first language so I didn't catch it

[meager locust]

I think a lot of people didn't catch it

I was young too though

[timid merlin]

i still dont get it

[dark berry]

if you say it as 925 as in just listing the numbers it's not that obvious. If you say it as 9 to 5 then it sounds totally different

Operation 9 to 5

you fight in an office

people work from 9 to 5 usually

hence 925

[timid merlin]

oh

lol

well not in my countrxy

work begins at 8

[dark berry]

oh I know, it's not always the case here either. But 9 to 5 is a very common saying in english

so only now that I'm way better versed in english I was able to connect the dots

[timid merlin]

yeah now i can see it to

2 as in to

but i didnt know that saying

[dark berry]

yeah

I hope the SCAR-H is better in BF2042

love that gun

looks so cool

I want it to be useful

[arctic grove]

Anyone on bf4 ps4-5

Or bf1

[shell thunder]

ok bye

[frigid nebula]

guys what if bf2042 was set in 2042 that would be crazy

[ocean heath]

BRO THAT WOULD BE SO CRAZY BUT LIKE HOW WOULD THEY DO THAT

[gilded kelp]

that would be pog

[arctic grove]

Pog indeed

[jaunty owl]

they wont

[frigid nebula]

one thing i am curious about the new class system is the cosmetics, like am i gonna see the same character played by half the server

it just seems strange to me

[lofty shore]

this is battlefield and not a realistic strategy game

which is why 99% of c onquest games are like you described

not really specific to a map

[sacred laurel]

Factual

[arctic grove]

Real

[silk belfry]

LMAO

I guess your brain is so small

that I have to explain this

[fast sonnet]

yeah

[silk belfry]

At least most other conquest maps have enough flanking routes to be able for small players to find ways around

in metro im not even sure if you CAN sneak around the enemy, even if you wanted to

same goes for locker

at least the Dragons teeth maps there is lots of verticality and

tons of opportunities to flank or out maneuver your opponents

Same with lots of other maps

[lofty shore]

believe it or not metro and locker can be flanked and that's how most good players get killstreaks there

also you have an interesting way of adding credibility to an argument, starting it off with an insult

the flanking routes being blocked by the other team is very different from them not being there

[arctic grove]

If I’m correct hazard zone is going to be free to play?

[fiery solar]

hows that work

[mortal raft]

Locker and Metro are considerably bigger meat grinders than other conquest maps. Very repetitive

[mortal raft]

Rumors, there is no official information on this.

[arctic grove]

Rumor is also it's only free on Xbox gamepass

[red mason]

Bruh fuck off it’s not a strategy game

[proven torrent]

there is nothing announced that even hints that hazard zone will be F2P and I don't think it will be

[tame token]

[silk belfry]

LMAO, no you fuck off

[tame token]

Let's keep it on topic and not fight please.

[silk belfry]

Strategy is what makes battlefield great, theres so many ways to play the game and use that grey matter between your ears

how do you think ppl came up with using C4 to launch vehicles?

[fiery solar]

yeah it was my best idea yet

[silk belfry]

or do that same tactic to end up launching a tank ontop of the B point on Siege

Like you can launch a LAV across the map, or creative plays, literally all games are strategy games expect for the newer call of duty games.

Now you may not be building factories or training units, but playing battlefield 4 is more than just running around and shooting things.

[slow herald]

🅱️attlefield

[silk belfry]

Bylatfield

[fiery solar]

battlefield is shoot gun break wall kill bad guys destroy big thing shoot bad guys since 2002

[silk belfry]

LMAO no

Battlefield bad company 1 was the first game to feature destruction

[fiery solar]

are you positive

[silk belfry]

at least as we know it

in Battlefield 1942

most objects were not destroyable

[karmic sandal]

AA was

[fiery solar]

as every battlefield not everything is destroyable

[silk belfry]

pretty much all the buildings were invincible

But you couldn't blow holes in walls like in the newer games

[silk belfry]

and with that comes 100s of ways to do it/creatively find ways to play the game

[somber coral]

if everything is destroyable u need more than 10 3090's

[fiery solar]

teardown but with textures

[silk belfry]

Battlefield is about sandbox

[soft kayak]

• battlefield
• strategy
  lmfao

[silk belfry]

LMAO

LMFAO

Game has always had a layer of strategy and teamwork to it

Otherwise its just COD with vehicles.

[slow herald]

battlefield

shoot

[silk belfry]

I mean hell, modern Battlefield games have more in common with COD than Battlefield

[soft kayak]

i mean it is

[silk belfry]

But its also not

In battlefield 3 you could destroy an AC130 with a repair torch

by launching yourself(with help of friends) with C4

[arctic grove]

How in the name of all things holy can you do that

Only in battlefield

[silk belfry]

let me show you

[soft kayak]

• very clearly an intended strategy

[silk belfry]

https://youtu.be/iRa6q_NxSbU

[silk belfry]

Dude your missing the point by 5 trillion light years

Battlefield is about giving you a bunch of tools and finding dozens of ways to use the tools of the trade to build/create new strategies to play the game

or finding ways to use teamwork to pull off insane feats using your brain, which includes knowledge of the game and muscle memory

[fiery solar]

just shoot gun and avoid being killed

[soft kayak]

"strategy" implies a larger coordinated effort than two friends fucking around.

[arctic grove]

Hahahahahahahaha

[daring valley]

Ur right

[arctic grove]

Yea but you have to spice things up Abit yano

[fiery solar]

yeah make things break

[soft kayak]

like combining gadgets to do stupid shit is very fun but I wouldnt call it "strategic"

[silk belfry]

It can be simple as 1 man or 15 men

[arctic grove]

That's the call of duty way not the battlefield way

[soft kayak]

its never more than the size of the squad

[silk belfry]

But WHY!? thats fucking boring as hell

[arctic grove]

Legit

[stiff peak]

Wait so the game is already being played

[fiery solar]

yes i beat max level twice

[arctic grove]

The BF way is spam Ammo and Medic kit to a team and waste ammo on destroying buildings and capture objectives.

[soft kayak]

same thing

[fiery solar]

same thing but wall break

[stiff peak]

I'm going to play day big when I get the chance

[mortal raft]

Battlefield always had some teamplay focus, definitely much more than CoD

Not as much as tactical shooters, but it's definitely an element

[soft kayak]

"pressing 3 when you see the low health icon is "teamplay""

[fiery solar]

yes

[mortal raft]

Healing an reviving mates definitely is teamplay.
So is sticking to your squad and doing the squad orders, which turn might come from the commander is some games.

[arctic grove]

Only tactical there is because you're prioritizing objectives and avoid getting shot over the run and gun concept.

Which makes it better since Soldiers don't always run and gun and besides they guard outposts more.

[shy rapids]

WOO HOO

Stickers finally

[arctic grove]

[soft kayak]

its the most shallow gameplay that fits the bare minimum of "teamplay".
You see more people working together in CSGO, without any "press x to teamplay" mechanics

[mortal raft]

At least on PC there can be some decent squad play, even with randoms.

[shy rapids]

[ember yarrow]

[fiery solar]

my randoms suck on bf1

[mortal raft]

You're ignoring the second part of my message

[fiery solar]

no

[silk belfry]

Its like playing mobile AA in BF4, sure you could be a boring dumb ass bitch with negative 20 trillion IQ and just stay in the spawn being useless for your team, or you can actually roll it out and use it to kill infantry or support your team

[soft kayak]

not really. Attacking the objective with the green arrows plays exactly the same as attacking an objective without green arrows. Theres no real coordination there, just people trying to maximize score.

[silk belfry]

most pilots are dumb assholes that have gotten used to habbits that are oh so painfully easy to exploit

[stiff peak]

Can you actually do the move with the jet

[mortal raft]

Idk if you guys are just lone wolfing or what, but I experience nice team play moments in Battlefield

[silk belfry]

Yes as far back as BF1942

it was called the Loop Zook

[fiery solar]

yeah the man in the trailer did it. trailers never lie

[soft kayak]

nah, Ive just played games that lean into teamplay far more. BF's teamplay is just surface level.

[arctic grove]

I wonder how new players will play BF Mobile.

Yep, disgusting COD Mobile peasant girls dating in a 128 kill warzone who thinks they're pros.

[silk belfry]

in BF1942 it was called a "Zook" when you shot down an aircraft with a zook

[stiff peak]

Then I am really about to go off

[mortal raft]

It's obviously not a tactical shooter where people coordinate over VC the whole time

[silk belfry]

I mean truth be told if you care about your KDR

[arctic grove]

True

[silk belfry]

your not having fun

[soft kayak]

even in CSGO or TF2 people are more coordinated

[tame cobalt]

!when

[fiery solar]

now

[silk belfry]

Like fuck you and your precious KDR jackass

you could have been healing my muthafuckin ass

or reviving me!

[soft kayak]

^

[fiery solar]

let them play the game how they want to

[silk belfry]

no ammo or repair for you

[fiery solar]

what could go wrong

[mortal raft]

Obviously CSGO is more coordinated...

[arctic grove]

I have 20/70 in locker once still don't have plans to "increase kdr" cause its just stats.

[mortal raft]

CSGO is a competitive game

[soft kayak]

even in casual

[silk belfry]

TF2 is cordinated

it takes teamwork to actually win

even in casual

[mortal raft]

Yes, even in casual CSGO is much more tactical than BF

[soft kayak]

depends on the server but it happens much more reliably than in bf

[mortal raft]

Not even the same league

[tame cobalt]

Bfv smoke launcher turns me into a pro medic

[soft kayak]

csgo isnt really a tactical shooter, by any means

[silk belfry]

Battlefield is like well

its a hybrid of some of the best aspects of COD and Mil Sim games

but boiled down to a fun arcade shooter

[soft kayak]

its big cod with "press x to teamplay" mechanics thrown in

[arctic grove]

BF-Sandbox
COD-Casual
CS:GO-Competitive
I:S-Tactical
ARMA-Mil-Sim

[mortal raft]

I think you're not understanding that just because a game doesn't have nearly as much teamplay as other it doesn't mean it has 0 teamplay

[silk belfry]

I mean COD can be Competitive sure

but so can any game really, but CSGO was more built from the ground up

[mortal raft]

Like, do you understand tiers?

[soft kayak]

but its certainly not the "teamplay focused game" you guys claim it is
Everyone acts independently

[silk belfry]

I mean truth be told I would more likely drop ammo if more of my team mates had brains

[stiff peak]

The reason I hate cod so much is that there are try hard everywhere

[silk belfry]

I mean black ops 2 was fucking fun

[mortal raft]

I didn't claim it was

[silk belfry]

but IMO if there were more ways to work with your team BO2 would have been more fun

[arctic grove]

Oh in mobile girls just tryhard to date their colleagues.

[mortal raft]

I said teamplay is an element

[silk belfry]

Like the sensor balls, APS and such exist

so there is some teamwork to be had in BO2

but BO2 rewarded you often for just getting kills

[shy rapids]

So what are you guys worried about with BF 2042?

[soft kayak]

anticheat

[silk belfry]

the scout helicopters

[stiff peak]

My favorites are black ops 3 and modern warfare

[arctic grove]

Well in MW'19 is it happening alot.

[shy rapids]

Ok yes

[shy rapids]

Why so?

[fiery solar]

because they hate competitive people

[shy rapids]

I mean anticheat would have to be made if its crossplay as well

[fiery solar]

whats a scout helicopter

[shy rapids]

I hope there's crossplay...

[shy rapids]

Little birds?

[stiff peak]

Most of my games

[shy rapids]

Even BF4 has tryhards

[arctic grove]

Thoughts on Ground War?

[mortal raft]

Though coordinating with a recon as engineering to mark and lock on vehicles is decent teamplay.
As is having a mechanic on board of your vehicle who always repair, might not do anything else.

[fiery solar]

couldnt be better

[shy rapids]

It sucks when its hard to take down helicopters in BF4 though

Im worried that the same will happen in BF 2042

[arctic grove]

The mode where MW has BF sized maps and vehicles?

[shy rapids]

I hope that its just all official servers as well, not with admins that will kick you like in BF4

[stiff peak]

I think that the story is a bit crazy but the game maps and weapons are all around great to me

[soft kayak]

we need community servers as well

[shy rapids]

Ground War? I'm going to play that soon

[shy rapids]

No... not really

[mortal raft]

Like... there clearly is teamplay intended, if it's not the main focus.
Battlefield never felt like an everyone for themselves game to me like CoD.
Especially with a decent squad.

[silk belfry]

I don't want it to be like in BF4, in BF4 its neigh untouchable, its a flying fortress thats small, moves fast, small target, has the same armor as the attack helicopter basically and has a ton of firepower AND unlike the attack heli it can be repaired in mid air and can seat 3 passengers, 2 of which could have repair torches, its basically better than the attack heli IN EVERY SINGLE WAY, it can be repaired fast as well. It also has no drawbacks/weaknesses compared to the other vehicles

[arctic grove]

I meant ground war?

[stiff peak]

Yes it is called warzone

[arctic grove]

There is a mode called Ground War where BF sized map and vehicles.

Warzone is BR mode.

BF is not BR.

[shy rapids]

Yeah, that's the thing, you can take down tank masters and such, but its hard to take down helicopter masters going around killing everyone

[soft kayak]

Battlefield never felt like an everyone for themselves game to me like CoD.
Oh it 100% is. half the people even using support gadgets do it for the score

[mortal raft]

No Warzone is BattleRoyale.
Groundwar is something else.

[mortal raft]

And? They're still helping their mates by doing so.

[arctic grove]

BF map and vehicles in COD thats it.

[silk belfry]

The skill required to use the scout heli is also pretty pathetic. Like I just got BF4 on PC a week ago and im already able to get more kills with it than most other vehicles, its extremely easy to use.

[soft kayak]

other games dont have to pay players to work together

[stiff peak]

Oh I got ot now

It

[silk belfry]

Also progression is another concern in BF2042

in 4 progression was fucking awful

[frosty patio]

haha tuk tuk go brrrr

[silk belfry]

can't speak for 3, but hardline by far has the best progression.

[soft kayak]

for every server with dickhead admins there were a dozen solid ones. Community games prolonged the lifespan of bf games by giving the community much needed control over it.

[silk belfry]

1 did have good progression as well

[stiff peak]

Well my favorite is ground war because I get to actually move with my team because it is hard to find one like that

[soft kayak]

best progression is no progression.

[arctic grove]

Hope it comes with Lambo doors as an attachment after ramming 128 soldiers.

[mortal raft]

I mean you're mostly just assuming it's for score.
I never care about score. I use support gadgets to help mates.
How do you even know how many people do that?

[arctic grove]

Yep hope MW2 Reboot has it again.

[stiff peak]

That's really good for me

[soft kayak]

between the few people who even use support gadgets not for their own gain, and the many people who admit its for score, it becomes clear that only a minority are really satisfied with the "press x to teamplay" mechanics

[mortal raft]

Also again.
Battlefield isn't "other games".
Of course it's not Rainbow Six Siege or is a mainly teamplay game. I don't claim it is.
It's clearly still an element and comes into practice often.

[soft kayak]

"team play" implies players working as a team not individuals clicking on an ammo icon.

[arctic grove]

Well imma wait long to get the last MW game in the series.

Would be MW3:2025

if MW2 didn't make original 2 and 3 story shorter.

[silk belfry]

Honestly battlefield 2042 should have mobile AA, mobile AA shouldn't be as huge an issue in 2042 if the data I hear is correct, the out of bounds for planes will be much bigger, one issue I see with mobile AA was the maps were too small or certain maps like golmud really had no way to shield yourself although TBH the best way to counter mobile AA is to avoid em, unless your an attack jet pilot which is fine, but honestly a mobile AA on siege of shanghai is what makes that map bearable when you have good heli pilots

if I recall correctly Siege never had mobile AA on consle

Playing siege on the 360 was fucking cancer

[soft kayak]

mobile AA is important, as annoying as it is, to prevent a team with air superiority from ruining the game for the other team.

[silk belfry]

LMGs are like your "Light" anti air, Mobile AA would be your "medium" or "heavy" anti air

[arctic grove]

You mean a mobile game right.

I wanna play mobile since I can't afford a gaming laptop.

Just complicated BF4 is already my first and last pc BF game.

[silk belfry]

Your "Heavy" Anti air should serve the role of shooting at or taking out high altitude targets

[silk belfry]

Mobile Anti Aircraft

Vehicles with Auto cannons

that shred air vehicles

[soft kayak]

yeah, wish it was like squad where LMGs could light up helicopters. Was always fun to have the whole squad unload on an unlucky chopper that landed nearby.

[stiff peak]

The last MW, they should go of on the last one

[arctic grove]

Ohh yes

[silk belfry]

Thats why I fucking love hardline, in hardline the enforcer class with battle rifle+Incendiary ammunition) was like your dedicated AA, of course stingers existed but they were battle pickups and it only took 1-2 hits to destroy or immobilize a chopper in that game and you got 3 rockets, while helis did have countermeasures they often weren't as OP as they are in BF3 and 4

of course pistols and SMGs could still damage helis, but their damage was really piss poor

unless you had the entire squad light them up, even then rifles were your go to

[arctic grove]

MW2'22 should just compress original 2 and 3 story into one then revise it since its a reboot.

[silk belfry]

compared to Hardline, BF 4s shooting is like an abomination/spawn of satin

Like Hardline got the shooting controls/shooting right

Battle rifles hit hard but had heavy recoil and recoil was an actual problem

so you couldn't just unload mags all the time, sure you could but you would be gimping yourself

also SMGs while really good they also suck ass at range

[stiff peak]

Ye that would be very interesting but I just want NO ONE to die

In the end

[silk belfry]

the K10 which is the "best" smg in the game is only good inside 10 meters and without extendo mag it only has 15 shots

[soft kayak]

or it could do something original

[silk belfry]

the stock mechanic/engie weapon is the MP5K

and you only have 15 rounds

[mortal raft]

Team play doesn't have to mean ultra competitive sitting in VC talking through every strategy.
Though if you have a squad of mates you can actually do that, if not to the exact same seriousness as a tactical shooter.

Staying with your squad, using recon lock on gadgets, spotting enemies, healing, reviving, repairing vehicles, orders etc are all team play elements.
If you're looking for some sweaty tactical gameplay Battlefield isn't for you, but damn how can you seriously deny that Battlefield doesn't have it as clearly intended element.

Maybe you're on another platform or region where people work less together, idk.

[silk belfry]

But since all guns in hardline hit hard, 15 rounds isn't bad

it is short but itse useable

but you have the option between Extendo mag and the stock in hardline

you can chose 1 but not the other

[stiff peak]

But would it not be fun to twist
It up a bit

[silk belfry]

so you either get better accuracy/handling with the MP5K by attaching the stock, or you get 31 rounds instead of 15-16

But NOT both

As for pistols, sidearms in hardline were great

for mechanic you got the 410. jury a shotgun revolver, a 357snub nose(as your stock), a 44 magnum for the criminals and a 357 magnum that holds 8 shots for the cops

Enforcer got hard hitting auto pistols

[soft kayak]

sure, but some basic coordination is a pre requisite for teamplay. Players dont even talk to eachother in bf unless theyre a party.

Staying with your squad, using recon lock on gadgets, spotting enemies, healing, reviving, repairing vehicles, orders etc are all team play elements.
no, none of these are. Theyre all just "pressing x". There is no coordination in spotting, or healing, or orders, or any of that. Its shallow. You dont have to "sit down and discuss every strategy", not even squad does that, but at least interact with teammates on a basic, social level. The only one that requires some actual coordination is the lock on gadget, which is probably why I have seen 1 person use it in the last 3 weeks of playing.
The "intended element" is a shallow interaction between players that can give the illusion of teamplay to those who havent played other games. This isnt a regional thing, its just battlefield

[silk belfry]

the Professional(the scout) got Machine pistols like the G18, Mac 10

and Tec 9