battlefield-2042

[copper spindle]

Anyway, If 2042 gonna have special camos on soldiers, are they gonna be like to damn colorful or just enough for it to be seen with not much color with balance? Cuz I saw the trailer with a operator with a splinter type camo like forest green and it seemed to bright to me

[neat mist]

My city has shootings sometimes

[hardy kestrel]

Speaking of trolling I'm just looking forward to flying a helicopter and then using commo rose to tell a gliding Sundance to get in the choppa but then just keep kiting them until they give up in frustration

[simple linden]

popo be catching them in my city at nights xD

[exotic mica]

What if he flies thru the helicopter?

[worldly star]

i wish i lived in a city

stupid sub urban areas

theyre the worst

[simple linden]

ouff

[neat mist]

Mines suburban

[hardy kestrel]

I wouldn't be doing a very good job kiting if they can do that

[neat mist]

Theres just different kinds of cities

[simple linden]

i live in the most populated area xd

[neat mist]

Where might that be?

[simple linden]

Belgrade

[neat mist]

I live in Louisiana

[simple linden]

far far away from you

[neat mist]

North of the mason dixon line?

[simple linden]

but not Belgrade Montana XD

[arctic grove]

Who lives in Montana

[worldly star]

idc enough to read all that

but cool

[arctic grove]

I can tell you were laughing your ass off while writing this 😂

[neat mist]

I like the american dream too-

[worldly star]

lets not get political now

[neat mist]

Yeah i was bouta say

Not you

Me

[versed python]

This has nothing to do with this channel. Take the conversation to #general, thanks.

[jaunty owl]

I live right near a fort, i swear there is a cartel. I live right outside of Richmond

[edgy eagle]

holy shit POLITICS

[arctic grove]

WAIT POLITICS??????? OH NO NO

[simple linden]

ouff

[neat mist]

Yikes

[exotic mica]

2042 is about global warming

[worldly star]

literally rule 5

[stable iris]

Lets keep it civil and change conservation

[worldly star]

but okay

[edgy eagle]

WHERE IS MOZZY. RUN. DON'T LOOK BACk

[worldly star]

just not tryna get banned

[neat mist]

2 days til july 4th!

[versed python]

Should have typed it in the correct channel.

[edgy eagle]

true 🇺🇸

[worldly star]

my family is gone

no fireworks for me

[arctic grove]

you ain’t gonna get banned? 😴

[neat mist]

Sorry for your loss shibe

[worldly star]

they left for a week

theyll be back

[edgy eagle]

Jake you're so cool.

[neat mist]

I wish my beautiful countrys name would be spelled correctly tho

[arctic grove]

Jake is my idol.

[edgy eagle]

what are you talking bout merica is the land of teh free

ay yo jake where you from

[royal lark]

It's literally dropping a letter

[jaunty owl]

bud, i thought we were still owned by the british

[neat mist]

BUT ITS SPELLED MERCA

[royal lark]

Its not an accent it's slang

[edgy eagle]

hell of a state there

[neat mist]

Okay everybody, fav state go!

[simple linden]

i kinda expected more EU people, but then i remembered its almost 4am in the EU

[edgy eagle]

🇺🇸 🇺🇸

FLORIDA

[neat mist]

LOUISIANA

[jaunty owl]

Mississippi…i won’t go there

[edgy eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-scream-no-cry-mad-gif-11222953

[hardy kestrel]

All in all pretty good BF week. Some hints that there will be a Test Range. Some hints we will get rent a server or custom games at least and can turn off bots if we want.

[exotic mica]

So you guys think that 2042 is the prequel to 2142?

[neat mist]

Yep

True

[simple linden]

some say its a sequel to bf4

and prequel to 2142

[royal lark]

Oregon is bangersnmash

[neat mist]

So jake

[edgy eagle]

in the same way bf1 is a prequel

[hardy kestrel]

Technically all BF games taking place before 2142 are prequels

[jaunty owl]

Maine

[neat mist]

Mmmmm

[exotic mica]

Man, what a crazy world where we don't get a sequel to 2142, but a prequel

[jaunty owl]

Don’t worry about it, don’t want to get banned or cancelled

[arctic grove]

Drunken

[jaunty owl]

you’ve probably never been there

[simple linden]

2142 and 2042 being in the same universe

[neat mist]

Jake

Hold yer horses

[simple linden]

and bf4

[jaunty owl]

I already stated it, don’t want to go there

[exotic mica]

I have heard a lot of people saying 2142 isn't cannon

[neat mist]

Theyre baiting ya, my friend

[exotic mica]

And those people are just wrong

[neat mist]

Like a bass

JAKE

[jaunty owl]

no one lives there, just canada pretty much we got pine trees and mooses

[neat mist]

PLS

[jaunty owl]

i get pretty historical sometimes

[neat mist]

Theyre playing ya like a fiddle!

[arctic grove]

🎣

[jaunty owl]

if you can pick up

[exotic mica]

You forgot about the like 50 C weather

[simple linden]

jake from statefarm

I KNEW IT

[neat mist]

You're being baited

[simple linden]

LIKE A GOOD NEIGHBOUR, STATEFARM IS THERE

[neat mist]

I said nothing

[jaunty owl]

I’m from america i don’t understand c° but yes it can get hot and cold

[neat mist]

Thats like

[jaunty owl]

What are you wearing jake from state farm?

[neat mist]

90 right

[exotic mica]

120+ °f

[jaunty owl]

🤦‍♂️

[neat mist]

Celsius has degrees my friend

[simple linden]

did they guys not send you the scripts?

[neat mist]

Jake

Whats your opinion on them dang yankees

[jaunty owl]

guys our school system doesn’t teach is this

[simple linden]

Chris says, WOW I LOVE STATE FARM's SURPRISINGLY LOW RATES AND TURNS HIMSELF INTO A BASKETBALL

[royal lark]

No we do Fahrenheit

Wtf

[jaunty owl]

2042

he’ll be dead bro

[arctic grove]

Merica

[neat mist]

AHAHAH

[neat mist]

*merca

[arctic grove]

*murica

[neat mist]

The US of A

[exotic mica]

Thank god the US isn't in 2042

[jaunty owl]

ok well I got my flannel, bug spray, jeans, hiking boots, humpty dumpty chips bud.

[arctic grove]

Shtate side

[stable iris]

@arctic grove Lets not dive into politics

[arctic grove]

🧢

[stable iris]

Understandable but lets not include anything related to politics

[jaunty owl]

we have diverse people here

[neat mist]

Im wearing pants and a shirt

[jaunty owl]

i don’t have clothes on

[arctic grove]

Am wearing a Barney suit

[neat mist]

Yall arent wearing skin?

[jaunty owl]

nope just tissues, flesh, muscles

[neat mist]

I meant someone else's

[arctic grove]

I've my summer skin on

[flint jay]

I got covid 19 rn 😦

[simple linden]

OUFF

[arctic grove]

Aw fucj

[flint jay]

Had to cancel a holiday too

[arctic grove]

People still get that shit? Damn

[flint jay]

Double oof

[unkempt dawn]

is character customization going to be a thing in bf2042. i pointed out that the same operator was spotted wearing different outfits in the gameplay reveal

[neat mist]

People are firing guns in the neighborhood

Lol

[simple linden]

hopefully a lot more than in bf5

[arctic grove]

🧢

My country is going back into lockdown by the looks of it 🙄

[exotic mica]

Very likely

[neat mist]

No cap

[unkempt dawn]

eyy

[neat mist]

Its july

[arctic grove]

Chicago?

[arctic grove]

Those are fireworks

[jaunty owl]

@arctic grove Dmed saying take a picture of me, since I said i didn’t have clothes on. I’m 14

[unkempt dawn]

time to make an anime girl in bf lmao

[flint jay]

[arctic grove]

Report his ass to Mod Mail

[simple linden]

LOL

[arctic grove]

Another alt down

[jaunty owl]

how

oh

[unkempt dawn]

i will give the ceo of dice 1 quarter if he removes bipod from the game unless its a sniper

[arctic grove]

Wtf🤣

[neat mist]

Jake dwight gets cancelled 2021 colorized

[arctic grove]

Guess you gotta make a new account… again…

[neat mist]

Guys they aint fireworks

[stable iris]

@jaunty owl Modmail plz

[neat mist]

They're like

[neat mist]

Popping

[unkempt dawn]

lmao his bio is a proud american citizen

[simple linden]

dont worry, he has a 100 more at the ready xD

[neat mist]

Its like a crack noise

[arctic grove]

True

3am and this chat is popping 😂

[jaunty owl]

welcome to the FBI watchlist

[arctic grove]

😂

Haha got his ass in 4K

[jaunty owl]

he deleted the pictures too

or asking

[arctic grove]

Apparently he has a lot of accounts from what he DM’d me

[jaunty owl]

i’ll report them all lol

[simple linden]

in the 100's

[jaunty owl]

i have a lot of time

[arctic grove]

I can’t really do much with the picture

"Hi, I'm Chris Hansen from Dateline NBC. Why don't you have a seat over there?"

[neat mist]

Jake I cant believe you

I thought you were an American

Not a groomer

[arctic grove]

Literally has picture proof

Just go ahead and hop on your next account

Jake Dwight is over

[simple linden]

dont worry Chris, things are gonna go surprisingly well; like a good neighbor state farm is there

[neat mist]

I trust them over a spy intent on toppling the American government, i.e. Jake Dwight

[jaunty owl]

I reported you to Modmail

[flint jay]

Its a new account though...

Thu, 01 Jul 2021 17:20:24 UTC

Thats when you created it

[neat mist]

Mhmm

[flint jay]

Yeah for trolling

[jaunty owl]

I wonder why

[neat mist]

For dming minors asking for pics?

[flint jay]

Sure they did

[arctic grove]

I caught him lacking and got a picture of him saying he has hundreds of accounts to troll

[neat mist]

Dm me the picture

[flint jay]

I'm sure after raiding someone they'd be like "you can make another account"

[simple linden]

Jake Dwight is over

time for Mark Johnson

[flint jay]

Lemme see

[arctic grove]

John doe

[severe hill]

Don't end up like Edp445

[magic mesa]

John Johnston

[jaunty owl]

he just did

[flint jay]

Looool

Dude got caught lackin

[jaunty owl]

He didn’t get any cupcakes though

[simple linden]

but hey, look at it this way

[severe hill]

And was expose in 4k

[flint jay]

I don't know why mods don't just ban him when they see the same name

[severe hill]

He is off the hook for now

[simple linden]

its him who is wasting time making 100's of alt accounts

[jaunty owl]

I have like 3

[flint jay]

It's clear with proof he's making alt accounts

[jaunty owl]

they’re all for maintenance purposes

[simple linden]

they cant ban an "innocent" user

without concrete proof

[jaunty owl]

Yes, but the thing is

he deleted it

[stable iris]

Lets move on plz

[neat mist]

Running away is easy

[simple linden]

you know that he is a troll, i know that he is a troll, they know that he is a troll

but they need concrete proof so

[jaunty owl]

you can view deleted messages but i’m not on pc

so

how’s the new battlefield 2042 trailer?

[simple linden]

great

hyped af

[flint jay]

Yeah because coincidentally a user with the same name, similar profile picture, also saying statements specifically to troll with a new account came and is not him

[exotic mica]

So you guys think Snoop will be at EA play? Like they got him for BF1?

[simple linden]

been a while since a trailer hyped me that much

[jaunty owl]

he’ll get high before he plays

[simple linden]

i fucking hope xD

[royal lark]

Obviously

He's always high

Before everything

[simple linden]

imagine them making a sound pack with snoop

[royal lark]

It's snoop

[exotic mica]

That was fucking crazy how he lit up before he started playing BF1 at E3 2016

[simple linden]

im buying that immediately

[royal lark]

How is it crazy its snoop dog

[jaunty owl]

Smoke Weed Everyday - Snoop Dogg

[exotic mica]

was weed legal in cali at the time tho?

[royal lark]

He's like obligated to smoke every he goes I think it's the law of the universe

[simple linden]

he just doesnt give a fuck xD

[royal lark]

No one cares if it's legal if it's snoop dog

[exotic mica]

fair enough

[simple linden]

every game should have a snoop sound pack

aw man, i was hoping for Mark Johnson

instead we got Cooper Willis

[exotic mica]

They should make a specialist for snoop

[neat mist]

Hey cooper!

[arctic grove]

Seriously CooperWillis

That’s the best name you could come up with

[neat mist]

What state do you live in?

[arctic grove]

Probably Texas

[jaunty owl]

I don’t have any clothes on

[neat mist]

Cool!

[arctic grove]

Arkansas that’s new

[neat mist]

Harrison?

[simple linden]

i thought mississippi

[neat mist]

CAUGHT YOU

Smh

[jaunty owl]

this guy bro

[arctic grove]

Do you know Carlos Young by any chance?

[jaunty owl]

is literally

the dumbest person

[neat mist]

Hey

I have a request

[exotic mica]

So what class/specialist will everyone be?

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove are you related to David Willis?

Serious question

[simple linden]

oh well, maybe next time we'll get Mark Johnson

[neat mist]

Can your next name be maya normustick

[stable iris]

Lets not accuse users plz

[exotic mica]

Guys, can we please talk about 2042

[jaunty owl]

Hey cooper do you know who @arctic grove is?

[jaunty owl]

sure

[rustic nova]

idk can we

[arctic grove]

What's on your mind

We ain’t accusing, we know it’s an alt account

[exotic mica]

So what class/specialist will everyone be?

And explain your answer

[simple linden]

hard to say

[unkempt dawn]

ign made an article saying that bf2042 is trying to be politcally correct by adding global warming to the game

[jaunty owl]

I dunno

[simple linden]

we still have 4 more that we dont know

[arctic grove]

Probably the sniper guy because he’s got a bush on his head

Not too sure yet

[simple linden]

ah, good ol casper

[stable mango]

the world is gonna end from climate change so who cares

[exotic mica]

Who is the 6th specialist that we know about?

[arctic grove]

Maybe even the grappling hook person. I haven’t even decided yet

[unkempt dawn]

its not going to end for a good while

[simple linden]

he deploys a shield barrier

[peak gust]

I am still waiting for a new bad company and its never going to happen 😦

[arctic grove]

Hopefully they show them off the 22nd

[simple linden]

could be Delta?

[arctic grove]

They will

[jaunty owl]

then suddenly Ice age

[unkempt dawn]

but in a few million billion years the universe itself will end

[simple linden]

or that might be a gadget

[unkempt dawn]

thats actually a true fact

[exotic mica]

Do we know that is a specialist gadget and not a general one?

[arctic grove]

Beta announcement too 🤌

[arctic grove]

Hoping for one

[simple linden]

sadly no

so we know 5 specialists for sure

[exotic mica]

Cue BF2142 theme song

[arctic grove]

We know there’s a total of 10 at launch

[simple linden]

6 if Delta can deploy a barrier

7 is the EMP/spawn beacon guy

but i do think that the barrier is a specialist gadget

[exotic mica]

Well hopefully EA play will show off the other 6

[simple linden]

we already know about Sundance

[neat mist]

then suddenly Ice age

[simple linden]

so he isnt really a secret anymore

[exotic mica]

ok 5 :p

[jaunty owl]

did you just-

[simple linden]

i just really hope ill get a gpu before beta

[exotic mica]

I don't quite get why we know about Sundance, but they won't give us more information on him like they did for the 4 that were posted about

[simple linden]

or the very least before the launch

[jaunty owl]

the door is open man

[neat mist]

Yo mama

[arctic grove]

I think the door is partly open

[unkempt dawn]

god no

that would suck

[jaunty owl]

Battlefield Battle Royale are garage

[simple linden]

if they release them one at the time, Sundance will prob be next

[stable mango]

Aliens in 2042 when?

[neat mist]

Yo mama

[jaunty owl]

firestorm sucked, it died so quickly

boring as hell

[unkempt dawn]

yes and regret touching not only bf5 but the gameode itself

[jaunty owl]

no pun intended

[simple linden]

must be those new dice bots

[jaunty owl]

?? No way

Just get warzone

[stable mango]

wack

[exotic mica]

BF5 wasn't that bad

[jaunty owl]

it’s slightly better

in a way

[arctic grove]

How so

[simple linden]

well, 4.17 am

time to go

[jaunty owl]

the pacific mode sucked but yea it was over-hated a bit

[arctic grove]

damn I wanted to know how firestorm is better than Warzone

[jaunty owl]

I feel like I encountered more campers in firestorm than I did in warzone

[hardy kestrel]

Just got confirmation that there will be armor piercing slide in BF2042 - Will OHK light vehicles and takes 2 to knock out tanks

[arctic grove]

Well BFV has a ton of campers, so you’d assume that they would also camp in firestorm

[jaunty owl]

interesting

[exotic mica]

armor piercing slide? Or side?

[arctic grove]

Why shouldn’t they?

[exotic mica]

what the heck is slide?

[hardy kestrel]

Slide, infantry sliding

[arctic grove]

You don’t know what sliding is

[neat mist]

Source?

[royal lark]

[exotic mica]

That has to be trolling

[jaunty owl]

uh which guns specifically

[hardy kestrel]

Thomas Hendersen

[arctic grove]

Because guns don’t affect tanks

[jaunty owl]

Which gun specifically

[neat mist]

Alright

[hardy kestrel]

Wilde, if I am lying just speak up

[jaunty owl]

because 9mm calibers don’t penetrate 200mm of armor

[hardy kestrel]

see?

[jaunty owl]

that goes with any

5.56

7.47

[hardy kestrel]

It's a tactical slide using kinetic force

[north raven]

The thing you climb up to & then go down in a children's park.

[jaunty owl]

that’s BF4,

i haven’t played battlefield in a while

considering i’ve only been playing bf1

[hardy kestrel]

All the specialist are trained in Xfit and they can project their bodyweight in such a way as to dismantle armour regardless of the thickness

[royal lark]

This chat is fucked

[jaunty owl]

how so

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove you forgot to put America in your status

[jaunty owl]

@arctic grove learn about tanks and calibers before you complain

[neat mist]

Loh friended me too

[arctic grove]

He’s trolling buddy

[jaunty owl]

i figured

that’s an alt

[arctic grove]

It is indeed

[jaunty owl]

you have the iq of a toddler

[arctic grove]

That’s Jack Dwight’s cousin

[stable iris]

Lets be civil here final warning

[neat mist]

OOP

[jaunty owl]

oops

[north raven]

Who is suspicious of whom?

[neat mist]

Yo mama

[jaunty owl]

r-r-re

[jolly lark]

Y’all think EA will put ads in battlefield 2042?

[exotic mica]

They did for BF2142

[arctic grove]

wdym by Ads?

[jolly lark]

Yea but who tf wants to see ads

And here I thought that was only for mobile games

Why tho? Like actually why???

[arctic grove]

I doubt there will be Ads like what mobile games has

[north raven]

Ads sometimes can be good to learn new stuff.

[jaunty owl]

no one watches em except for those stupid state of survival ones. you watch them because their so stupid

you’re basically watching them ironically

[hardy kestrel]

I hope so. I don't like doing any thinking for myself so if EA could partner with some quality brands to tell me what to eat, wear and vote that would be super

[arctic grove]

We might see some ads advertising EA games but that’s it. Highly doubt that would happen either way.

[jolly lark]

These are some decent ideas

[jaunty owl]

i’m just hoping they advertise in every way and shape and form

[halcyon hatch]

Battlefield 2042 should have naval gameplay like bf1

With 2 large ship classes

[stable iris]

Titan warfare like 2142

[halcyon hatch]

Corvette and destroyer

[jaunty owl]

Super bowl - Youtube - orange youtube you get the point

[halcyon hatch]

No not like that

[jaunty owl]

i actually like this idea

[halcyon hatch]

Disagree respectfully

[jolly lark]

They gotta bring back siege of shanghigh

[arctic grove]

Just ignore him

[halcyon hatch]

BR is boring

And overdone

[neat mist]

Yo mama

[arctic grove]

Yo mama

[hardy kestrel]

Would be really cool if there were ad spots hidden around the map and I would get rewarded for watching ads with like 200% health and 200% bullet velocity

[red veldt]

will XSS have 1080p 60fps？

[arctic grove]

This ain’t a mobile game 😂

[halcyon hatch]

If I wanted a pretty good BR I’d simply play warzone, battlefield should instead divert resources to say the ship content

[severe hill]

Image all the leaks where confirmed

God

[jaunty owl]

ships were so fun in BF1 just like airships

[halcyon hatch]

Pretty meh since they abandoned it at launch

[halcyon hatch]

Yeah

[severe hill]

What's wrong with driving a Battlefieldship in bf2042 lmao

The game could handle it

[jaunty owl]

what

[halcyon hatch]

For corvettes i could see a driver, gunner, and person on missiles, and possibly someone on a smaller cannon

[arctic grove]

Being able to control a battleship would be fun ngl

[halcyon hatch]

BF1 had that

[slim quiver]

If BF 1942 could handle driving a battleship, I’m sure 2042 could

[halcyon hatch]

Dreadnoughts are battleships

[jaunty owl]

imagine a futuristic airship instead of those bad air, they use different resources and have cannons and machine guns

[severe hill]

And I found a snipped of what appears to be a glass building falling on a car

[hardy kestrel]

Only if you could plaster it with ads like a NASCAR

[halcyon hatch]

Slap a massive Xbox logo on the front of the ship

[severe hill]

Promotion babay

[slim quiver]

Im going to say it again. Add SPGs to BF again. It’s time. Especially with these massive maps

[sacred laurel]

Making MONEY

[halcyon hatch]

We had them in BFV (kinda)

[severe hill]

Massive destruction might be imminent

[slim quiver]

Ehhh not really

[arctic grove]

How many days left?

[sacred laurel]

To many

[severe hill]

I found a deleted dice message talking about it

[hardy kestrel]

Yeah and ad proximity chat and blare Xbox commercials that would be audible to anyone within range

[true wasp]

too much

[severe hill]

This was a month ago

[halcyon hatch]

Stug IV and valentine archer

[arctic grove]

[jaunty owl]

3 months, 20 days

[slim quiver]

1942 had actual Arty tanks and rocket trucks that were designed to be artillerally

[halcyon hatch]

That would make people rage quit ngl

[arctic grove]

[slim quiver]

Refrain from doing that please

[jaunty owl]

so 120 days

[arctic grove]

Oh long time Thx

[halcyon hatch]

Every single time a missile comes near you, the Xbox turn on noise occurs

[long kernel]

Advertising never improves a game. Product placements like Polaris are a huge disappointment. Instead of being connected to a game we are stuck with a sales pitch. Either marketing strategy degrades the experience. Who can feel respected or respect a community full of product pitches?

[hardy kestrel]

But it would be good for advertisers and that's what is important - gamers come in distant second

[arctic grove]

What about the beta

[sacred laurel]

True true

[slim quiver]

Nope just keep things civil is all Im asking

[halcyon hatch]

Fair

[hardy kestrel]

Gosh my tits are jacked for ads - SO excited to see what kind of experiences they will come up with

[jaunty owl]

120 days

[arctic grove]

It’s his 3rd alt of the day

[sacred laurel]

Bruhhhhh

[halcyon hatch]

But yeah there was even a frigate in the release picture for 2042

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[halcyon hatch]

At the bottom right

[sacred laurel]

Who invited this kid

[royal lark]

You spell lying wrong every time

Lmao

[halcyon hatch]

Naval combat would be fun and would work well if they add large maps but with islands like on BF4

[daring sage]

Walter White, is that you?

[sacred laurel]

YES

Oh god yes

And with the new way to call in vehicles

[royal lark]

Carrier assault was pog

[jaunty owl]

Warships are cool and al

all

but how about a full on naval battle with carriers, submarines and etc

[sacred laurel]

YES

[jaunty owl]

except the DLC will be 40$

[hardy kestrel]

Oh yeah that is a great ad opportunity - when you call in vehicles it could say like "This vehicle is brought to you by Honda"

[halcyon hatch]

I wish more people played it

[severe hill]

Image driving an aircraft carrier

[jaunty owl]

Middle Eastern Toyota Pick up trucks mounted with a PKM

[halcyon hatch]

I think they had that on 1942

“Jets”

[severe hill]

Planes

[jaunty owl]

he’s trolling

[simple linden]

JETS

[halcyon hatch]

Yeah clearly

[simple linden]

LOL

[jaunty owl]

he thinks a 5.56 could penetrate 200mm tank

i mean there was jets

[hardy kestrel]

What do you guys think about having an uninterruptable commercial play during the match if it meant you'd be learning about a great new product?

[jaunty owl]

like the Messerschmitt 262

[stable iris]

I mean in bf 1942 there was an expansion packs with jets

[royal lark]

I still get full games

[tame token]

See my phanny and cool my Jetts... < Favorite song here

[sacred laurel]

Oh bro I hope the vehicle customization is like bf4

[severe hill]

I know massive destruction is happening if that leaked trailer with rocket was confirmed by dice and ea

[simple linden]

Ye, but ME 262 wasn't in bf5 sadly

[halcyon hatch]

Damn on Xbox there isn’t

[royal lark]

I'm on Xbox

[jaunty owl]

too overpowered for aerial combat

[halcyon hatch]

Weird

[jaunty owl]

depending

[halcyon hatch]

What continent

[jaunty owl]

on which plane

[halcyon hatch]

Well it can’t turn at all but it outspeeds everything

[jaunty owl]

P-51 > Me. 262

[royal lark]

I keep region filters off at all times

[jaunty owl]

that’s the main problem

[royal lark]

It removes sooooo many

[halcyon hatch]

Maybe force most of its upgrades to be CAS to balance things out

[simple linden]

I reckon we would have seen it if they continued support

[jaunty owl]

but P-51 had to drop fuel tanks to actually fight the Messerschmitt 262

[simple linden]

In the final dlc

[halcyon hatch]

P-47 also had good speed against them in dives

[jaunty owl]

That was the point of the p-47

it had to heavily rely on diving

zeros, 106s, etc

because it was like a Stuka it was a dive bomber or a tank buster

not a fighter

[halcyon hatch]

They didn’t fight zeros usually

[royal lark]

@halcyon hatch the "tropic thunder" named servers are always super full this one only has one round of CA mixed in mostly conquest but all dlc maps too😎

[haughty rose]

This game is really good I’m having fun what about you guys

[jaunty owl]

right, p-47,51 were mostly european theater planes

[sacred laurel]

Hamburger 🍔

[halcyon hatch]

What server is it?

[royal lark]

Tropic thunder 2

[halcyon hatch]

Ok

[sacred laurel]

Electric boogaloo

[royal lark]

There's others as well with similar names

All banging dlc maps

Big queues 😳

[simple linden]

I was hoping they would add tiger IIs and panthers in bf5

So much potential for eastern front dlc

[sacred laurel]

Same 😢

[simple linden]

And fall of Berlin

[jaunty owl]

you can’t put 1 sherman against heavy german tanks

[royal lark]

Tropic thunder servers on Xbox are pogchampsupreme

[jaunty owl]

it’s too overpowered

[halcyon hatch]

Mfw we get a Stalingrad in bf1 but not BFV

[simple linden]

Fireflies could take out tigers

[jaunty owl]

by fireflies you mean 76mm sherman’s and the british replica

but at long range, you won’t do much

[simple linden]

Yes

[jaunty owl]

most 76, 78mm had to get up close

kinda

you could hit in the side

ass

turret

[simple linden]

I know, but towards the end they fought mostly in cities

[jaunty owl]

yea

tigers were designed for open country

[simple linden]

I really thought they got their groove going with pacific dlc

[jaunty owl]

so we’re panthers

[simple linden]

But then rip support

[jaunty owl]

Pacific is really annoying, too much camping snipers in the trees

it’s basically vietnam

but ww2

[simple linden]

It got the community hyped up a bit

Iwo jima, wake island

Historic maps

Instead of only no name ones

[jaunty owl]

that it did, but my favorite part about bf5 what it did that every other game didnt.Was let you play as the axis in the story mode

or “war stories”

[simple linden]

When pacific launched, I had a lot of fun

[severe hill]

https://youtu.be/EWANLy9TjRc

[simple linden]

The last tiger was really good

Story wise

[jaunty owl]

best war story out of bf5

[simple linden]

Ans voice acting was pristine

[jaunty owl]

it was pretty sad when the other crew died

[simple linden]

Coupled with amazing music

[jaunty owl]

and the loader i think betrayed them

[simple linden]

He was just a kid

[jaunty owl]

when he killed the commander

[simple linden]

Brainwashed pretty much

[jaunty owl]

he was-

yea

most germans were

[simple linden]

While the commander was a veteran

[jaunty owl]

especially young aryans

[simple linden]

He knew what was happening

A sad reality

[jaunty owl]

From literally every fallout - War never ends

[simple linden]

Poor tiger tank

You missed the name

Its Mark Johnson

Ah jeez xD

[jaunty owl]

“Hanz ze transmission broke. Back to ze factory”

here we go again

[simple linden]

I'm off xD

Cba really

These random generic pics are killing me tho

[jaunty owl]

I know

[simple linden]

You never know what you're gonna get

XD

[jaunty owl]

i can’t wait for henry davis

where he actually portrays him

[simple linden]

Xd

Well, cya

[jaunty owl]

cya, gn or gm

[simple linden]

5am, so your choice

XD

[jaunty owl]

morning

10:53 in eastern US

PM*

[royal lark]

[edgy eagle]

actually its 11:04 fix your clock

[jaunty owl]

[rapid scarab]

bf2042

wasnt that already released

way back

[night radish]

Nah

[rapid scarab]

with like a titans game mode

or what ever

[jovial dagger]

2142

[night radish]

Maybe you mean bf 1942

[rapid scarab]

no

OH

I ment 2142

my bad

[royal lark]

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
Time: <t:1626973200:R>

[livid tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

😦

[charred wedge]

Wasn't there some mentionings BF2042 will have some stuff in July 8th?

[stiff shore]

Yea more gameplay if I remember right

[pallid dock]

https://tenor.com/view/simp-egirl-dance-savings-gif-17239821

[last willow]

My first Battlefield and I can't wait to play it again 😉

I'm expecting BF2042's "live service narrative" to eventually reach the 2142 timeline a year after game is released. I can see it now.

[honest crag]

what site they will be streaming on?

[stiff shore]

I have to find the Tweet I seen. I think it's at some showcase for something.

[honest crag]

alright

[red veldt]

why the 2042 background is the United States and Russia instead of the United States and China

[reef arrow]

add me SPAD7-12, i want to actually squad up, coordinate

[hallow kelp]

who here is a fan of ChaboyyHD?

[spark acorn]

dont want the chinese market to ban ur game, smh

[edgy eagle]

sup bro

[soft kayak]

bf4 wasnt banned for showing the chinese army.
It was banned because it's plot is about China causing a false flag coup to start a war with the US over spite, and the multiplayer is almost exclusively set during a justified invasion of the country.

[edgy eagle]

oh right Oceania

makes ense

[spark acorn]

no shit duh

[fickle coral]

when game

[spark acorn]

i wasnt specifically talking about the chinese army @soft kayak

they could be depicting the chinese as the bad guys in the game as well

did u think about that too?

[arctic grove]

I'm sure china will not get battlefield 2042

Because of bf4

[spark acorn]

and hey

[edgy eagle]

😏

[upper abyss]

china doesnt offer much games anyway

[arctic grove]

Valorant is one they have

[upper abyss]

they just censor everything

[soft kayak]

well, 2042 is a pretty neutral game. Russia isnt really depicted as a bad guy here. I dont think China would have been either.

[upper abyss]

lol if riot ever releases a chinese looking character they will ban the game

[arctic grove]

Riot is owned by ten cent

And ten cent is owned by china

[upper abyss]

good to know then

[arctic grove]

Valorant is Chinese game

👌

[spark acorn]

true

[arctic grove]

Not exactly

But sure

[spark acorn]

but we haven't really seen the story tho?

we'll see

[arctic grove]

@arctic grove how so?

[spark acorn]

i wouldnt be surprised that the russians were the one to start the war

[upper abyss]

there isnt gonna be a story i think

[spark acorn]

no campaign, there will be a story.

the story is going to be told through the multiplayer

[upper abyss]

oh ok

[arctic grove]

Because Riot Games is an American company

[upper abyss]

ingenious

[main salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleepy-cat-sleeping-kitty-kitten-gif-18678404

[soft kayak]

We have seen the lore. The US and Russia go to war due to an incident that destroys 70% of earth's satellites. Both blame eachother and nobody knows the cause.

[neat mist]

My theory? Terrorists

[soft kayak]

China isnt mentioned in the lore snippets, but is implied to not be a world power any more, either weakened or balkanized.

[neat mist]

People who started a war to take them both out

[upper abyss]

fair

[spark acorn]

your not talking about the specifics here, who was the one to really be the aggressor? who started it?

[soft kayak]

they dont say.

[spark acorn]

game is probably not gonna explain that part because its gonna piss off the russian populace in real life, like COD:MW2019

[neat mist]

There doesn't need to be an aggressor

People who want an aggressor are people just looking for a villian

[soft kayak]

cod blamed a real US warcrime on the russians. That is a very different scenario.

[spark acorn]

Kinda weird they made russia a superpower again, but it's the battlefield franchise.

[spark acorn]

sad fact.

[soft kayak]

not too unlikely. China does have the capacity to fall apart in the next decades, and Russia could actually gain from climate change, mostly with access to more warm water ports and arctic oil.
Though I think Russia was just chosen cause theyre the second strongest army today

[upper abyss]

tru

[spark acorn]

Things could change pretty fast, yes. Still highly doubt that Russia becoming a secondary superpower within the next 20 years, eh.

[soft kayak]

very little of 2042's lore makes sense anyway.

its mostly an excuse for the gameplay and art

[spark acorn]

Yep.

[neat mist]

Isnt russia actually a superpower though?

[spark acorn]

I just want the game already, lolz.

[spark acorn]

Nope.

[neat mist]

Ah

[spark acorn]

As when it was the Soviet Union, yes.

[soft kayak]

currently the US is the only superpower with China being very close to being considered one

[neat mist]

Soviet union is wack

[upper abyss]

kinda

[spark acorn]

but they made cool military tanks and helos tho

[spark acorn]

no not really

[neat mist]

Doesn't matter, I still think theyre wack

[upper abyss]

they still have some power but not much anymore

[soft kayak]

Russia is a starving polar bear who is desperately trying to keep the EU at bay. While theyre the 2nd strongest military now, in total war they would be shit on by even Germany, much less the rest of Nato.

[upper abyss]

yeah like the biggest transport airplane and helicopter ever

[spark acorn]

yeah big influence in their region, but still bad at projecting a massive global influence like USA.

[soft kayak]

Maybe we could get China or India as factions eventually. In game theyd just be vehicle rosters but that would be enough honestly.

[spark acorn]

I don't think we're getting more than just the US and Russia really.

[soft kayak]

Assuming the US and Russian vehicles arent clones

[upper abyss]

yeah they lost their momentum gained during the second world war

[spark acorn]

I think you already know this, but we're seeing foreign vehicles in-games as well.

[spark acorn]

??

[strong tulip]

no campaign, no party... f*ck...

[upper abyss]

they gained lots of power and influence during ww2 but slowly lost it during the cold war

[soft kayak]

Interesting. Granted theyre all fictional variants so they may still be for their respective countries.

[spark acorn]

ye

[spark acorn]

They were still a force to be reckon with till the late 1980s.

yt

y/htg

[soft kayak]

their "power and influence" was just waving their big-dick military at their neighbors

Did they have any real allies? The Chinese didnt like them despite being communist, and Cuba went to them as a last resort.

[spark acorn]

Cuba was their real ally.

[neat mist]

Nobody really likes russia except for redditors

[spark acorn]

Their puppet states can be included too in the Eastern Bloc but you know, puppet states.

[neat mist]

Yeah I was bouta say

[soft kayak]

Not really. Castro specifically said during the revolution that they wanted to distance themselves from the USSR. They only went to the USSR after the US refused to deal with them and started cockblocking their deals with other countries.

The original plan was to sell sugar to the US

[spark acorn]

Their only real ally per see, a country they don't actually own as a puppet state is what I am saying.

[spark acorn]

Well that backfired hm?

[soft kayak]

yup.

Now its just loaning land to tourism companies.

[spark acorn]

Sad truth of the cuban economy.

[upper abyss]

yeah

[upper abyss]

lmao also tru

[spark acorn]

inappropriate

[neat mist]

My bad

Just a joke

[spark acorn]

yeah but this server doesn't take it too kindly

[neat mist]

Yeah

[dense robin]

I will not miss Fjell

[soft kayak]

What was it?

[dense robin]

I hope Fjell never gets a remake

[soft kayak]

128 player fjell

comedy gold

[dense robin]

Hell on earth

[arctic grove]

[upper abyss]

lol two times more fucking annoying planes

[arctic grove]

-gun dog
-the dog with the gun on him
-gun dog

[dense robin]

What dat dog doin

[neat mist]

From boston dynamics to boston ballistics

[arctic grove]

PFF

bussin boom-booms

[neat mist]

Darnit I got warned for the russia joke

[soft kayak]

Lmfao

[jaunty owl]

the true american dog

[neat mist]

I guess gold really does have a high price

[spark acorn]

the thing is a size of a gorilla ape

[arctic grove]

hell yeah

[hard cave]

Fuck I'm stoked for 2042

[arctic grove]

who isnt

[hard cave]

As someone who does mostly nothing but sniping, the fact that there are ranges like 1.7km is fucking awesome

[arctic grove]

the trailer is so dope

oh no

are you a 30x ballistic scope camper

[hard cave]

I am not

[arctic grove]

okay good

[hard cave]

Thankfully

I normally run 8x, and engage enemies between 100-200 feet, countersniping as necessary

[arctic grove]

bf5?

[hard cave]

BF4

[arctic grove]

aight

[hard cave]

BFV I'm keep those sorts of ranges, but can agrecon if need be

More like 50-100m

[arctic grove]

ooh alr alr

[hard cave]

I fucking love BFV Sniping

Feels so crisp

[pastel pilot]

cant wait

[hard cave]

And I hope they can recapture it in BF2042, with actual sniping ranges

Though I am not a hill camper, I kinda wish we had the chance to do some overwatch

[next onyx]

I personally hope suppression =/= spread won't come back

[spark acorn]

These maps are huge, so you're gonna find like really good sniping spots.

[hard cave]

HEAR HEAR!!!

[hard cave]

I'm already gunning for atop the stadium

[spark acorn]

And assuming all those urban maps with tall towers, you can pretty much access all their rooftops too @hard cave

[next onyx]

Or just in general, make your guns purely control based.a

If we get it. I'll be running down with the scar

If its good

[hard cave]

OFC, there's the fact that I'm a garbage sniper, so DW infy

I won't hit too too often

[spark acorn]

Heh.

[neat mist]

Here's to hoping they don't have ridiculous cosmetics

[spark acorn]

May want to ruin your comment, but they will definitely add some ridiculous cosmetics.

[hard cave]

Also; I am kinda concerned that the maps won't be that large... I'll need to see

[neat mist]

Consarnit.

[spark acorn]

4,9km is pretty big in my opinion.

[hard cave]

Kaleidoscope looks tiny, compared to Rotterdam

It's basically Rotterdam with 2x playercount

[spark acorn]

And yet, it's a bit bigger than Rotterdam.

[pastel pilot]

The thing I'm looking forward to the most is not just killing all you snipers by Knifing you and stealing your tags (that alone brings me great joy). The fact the maps being so big there wont be as many people hiding in their spawn like little girls sniping with not just snipers but tanks as well>>>> CAN I GET AN AMEN

[spark acorn]

no luffy

you will become pirate king

now thats an AMEN

[pastel pilot]

YES I LOVE YOU

[hard cave]

That is true... though you need to watch out for snipers watching the backs of snipers

Imagine going for the knoife

And getting a .50BMG in your skull from another sniper

Because they aren't just all in one spot now

I am fucking stoked for everything between Orbital and Irreversible

IDK how Discarded and Kaleidoscope will stack up, but they'll be fine

[neat mist]

Opinion: I dislike that primaries wont be class locked

[spark acorn]

I don't mind that.

[hard cave]

I don't know what to think about it'

I am terrified of the one-man army types; Rocket Launcher, Medkit, DMR and Shotgun secondary

[neat mist]

What I liked about the classes was that sniper had sniper, support had area denial, medic was basic, etc.

[hard cave]

But I also think the versatility is nice. If I want to do something with my character, I can do it now, instead of having to swap to a different class

[pastel pilot]

@neat mist watch your mouth

ok first think about this more people will be willing to play medic and do the job because they have a weapon they are fimiliar with rather than one they are stuck with

[neat mist]

Kinda coming off passive aggressive there buddy

[pastel pilot]

@neat mist sorry

lol

[neat mist]

Thats alright

[spark acorn]

I'm not happy to know that everyone will be using an RPG now lol.

[hard cave]

But, that will fix one of my gripes about BF4

[spark acorn]

I know they'll balance it out somehow.

[hard cave]

Good tank/plane/heli pilots being basically invincible

[soft kayak]

Mobile aa

[hard cave]

If you a homie, you say fuck the Mobile AA that is used to kill infantry only

[last willow]

Even with great balance, some players will master something and beat others all the time

Like me being a tank whore in BF4

[hard cave]

Not true; There is no BF4 soldier who is immortal

[pastel pilot]

@neat mist but it just makes people more comfortable with the class they choose because i personally dont play medic because i hate the guns i have to choose so im a great assault player. now i can play medic and enjoy assaulting as well.

[last willow]

But I always get beat out by Attack Jet pros

[hard cave]

Deaths come and go very, very quickly

[last willow]

I agree OldMan

No one is immortal but there are always enough noobs out there haha

[hard cave]

That is true, Goose

[last willow]

Especially now in BF4

It's NOOB HARVEST

[hard cave]

What I honestly think is that tanks should be about as hard to take out as the people within

[past pewter]

[neat mist]

But I liked how the differences in weapon choice made it so that a game of battlefield was a team effort, not a call of duty game

[pastel pilot]

@hard cave dont get me started lol i shot down like 5 to 10 choppers because they pop Counter AA to soon lol

super funny

[hard cave]

There is nothing that turns me off the BF franchise more then going into a game, and getting Requised repeatedly by tanks, who drive up with long range thermals and melt your ass, while you can do nada back

Your option against a tank is to stand there and perish

[pastel pilot]

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3v0xzk

BFF chopper video lol

i had to post this here its so nostalgic

[hard cave]

Yeah

[jade shadow]

any newws on a potential anticheat>>

[last willow]

Long range thermals? like zooming in?

Cause you can't zoom in on thermals

[pastel pilot]

@hard cave if you go to my post the third one i posted ^^^ up there i mention that

[last willow]

"thermals" is BF4's soft wall hack lmao

[hard cave]

In BF4, there were two thermal types

[last willow]

I never used the green/yellow one

Just FLIR and I also have ZERO kills with any other shell other than the stock AP

guided shells piss me off lmao

[pastel pilot]

@hard cave what i said was i was looking forward to the maps being so big because there will be no excuse for camping in spawns with not just snipers but tanks as well

[last willow]

Very true! I'm always a player that caps flags with my vehicles though

ALWAYS capping those flags mang

[neat mist]

I like vehicles

[last willow]

Even when I'm in AA

[neat mist]

I reallly liked hardlines cars

[thin rain]

I always use the heavy machine gun as secondary on tank cuz all the infantry and heli kills u get with that are so satisfying.... Even if u lose to other tanks sometimes due to the lack of it

[last willow]

https://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/GooseTheSecond/vehicles/247823626/pc/

Let's play soon guys

[hard cave]

Absolutely. As well, I hope it allows for the style of sniping I likr

[spice burrow]

If you need a good laugh just get an aa tank on panzerstorm and watch all the man children cry in the chat

[hard cave]

Just off objective

[last willow]

I miss BC2 sniping

[tardy olive]

Golmud is top 5 map

[nova idol]

I want something like the lunge mine in bf2042 ngl, ambushing a tank felt so good

[last willow]

I've only played less than 10 multiplayer rounds in both BF1 and V

[hard cave]

Aiding the team, just out of AR range

[last willow]

Had more fun watching streamers play those 1 and 5

[nova idol]

Coward

[hard cave]

Yeah.

[last willow]

BF finally back to where it should be

[hard cave]

I am kek

[nova idol]

I hope suppression isnt a mechanic in this game even tho I know it will be

Its just annoying

[tardy olive]

It's temporary bf4 hype

[last willow]

Right. I never left BF4.

BF4 IS ETERNAL

[tardy olive]

New players I mean

[pastel pilot]

@spice burrow hey but now we will have javelins and stingers and all those fun modern ways of dealing with those AAs, tanks, jets, and heli's 🙂

[last willow]

Oh I meant about the timeline being modern

[nova idol]

I really like bf1 wish it had more players

[pastel pilot]

@spice burrow so all those criers will actually not be crying they will be slapping that AA camper

[nova idol]

Until dice nerf AA because heli players complain

😤

[last willow]

But don't get me wrong I'm loving the new players. I like to call it The Great 2021 BF4 Noob Harvest

Just farming all night

[tardy olive]

People who for some reason stand still 80% of the match

[last willow]

Getting MVP like at least 7 out of every 10 rounds lol

[pastel pilot]

call in the clowns^^^

[spice burrow]

Bro i maxxed out my aa tanks from doing that, its almost impossible to kill an aa tank

[last willow]

You guys talking about AAs from 5?

[spice burrow]

Yea

[last willow]

Oh I'm out of the loop lol

[spice burrow]

I just like making man children rage cause they cant go 100-3

[last willow]

Yeah that is fun alright

[pastel pilot]

@spice burrow bro the maps will be so big and the modern Anti vehicle stuff so good I'd lay dimes on the dollar you get wrecked.

[last willow]

Can't wait for 2042 gameplay mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[spice burrow]

I honestly hate bfv pilots

If i ever wanna chill in a plane theres always a clan going 50 -1 in the server

Sure im a good pilot but i cant 1v3 maxxed out pro pilots like cmon

[pastel pilot]

@spice burrow I make it my personal mission to counter those girly AA's your forgetting. ITS MODERN I DONT HAVE TO SEE YOU. all it takes is a laser target and a good javelin and your toast. with extra butter 😉

[hard cave]

I hope there's a way to learn planes without someone screaming at me for trying

[pastel pilot]

@hard cave there will be a practice mode. they mentioned it

[hard cave]

Yeah, but even better is the 127 solo mode, with an all out war map

[pastel pilot]

that sounds fun

[neat mist]

Yo mama

[pastel pilot]

https://youtu.be/tifnfgeQB7k video of me practicing today

in the heli

[hard cave]

I suck in vehicles

Legit never take them

Because I feel bad when I get killed

[pastel pilot]

i was born to fly. i fly drones for a hobby any doing these things just makes me smile.

[hard cave]

When someone else on the team could go 50-0

And do better

[last willow]

Don't do that OldMan

Practice

Play the game

[pastel pilot]

wer all got to start somewhere

[last willow]

If people cry, screw them

[pastel pilot]

we**

[last willow]

Take any vehicle you want

At any time

Sometimes the tanks I wait for get taken by lower levels and well.. I don't care. I just get another vehicle or go infantry

[mellow tinsel]

also that could just be a to quote battlefield friends a shit bucket

[last willow]

The point is... ALWAYS cap those flags man

[mellow tinsel]

yeah ptfo

[last willow]

Sometimes I have to just get in a jeep and get to a flag as fast as I can haha

[pastel pilot]

lol i love you to @mellow tinsel they were talking about maybe continuing their series when this releases

[last willow]

I've had hundreds of games where I'm MVP with a negative K/D

It's all about the score baby

[mellow tinsel]

yeah heres to the guy who plays the recon he was diagnosed with a brain tumor hopefully he recovers

[hard cave]

It's the one aspect of the franchise that I don't engage with

[mellow tinsel]

the bois at BFF are awesome and neebs gaming need more cred

[last willow]

I used to be that way too but then I got in that tank and now I am the tank

And right now I'm practicing jets

[pastel pilot]

it was cancerous and he is recovering @mellow tinsel they are waiting for the test results though

[last willow]

And I'm getting pretty darn good with the Scout Heli and Attack Heli too

[mellow tinsel]

good to hear

[last willow]

But I still have a LONG way to go on the scout/attack heli

and especially jets

[pastel pilot]

@mellow tinsel Funny story... wel i guess that is if you take it that way. they have a discord and i noticed they had a suggestion spot. the day they posted that i suggested they give me a job. i posted before them though. i was mortified.

i was like you guys have the worst timing to post that or maybe i did...

[shy rapids]

Just waiting for BF news... it's insane

Really hope that the preorder wasn't a waste...

[terse temple]

@shy rapids

refund if its bad

problem solved

[hard cave]

I still ain't preordered

Waiting until actual people get diamond hands on it

[fresh girder]

I pre-ordered it to prove a point

[terse temple]

i pre ordered to prove that i am hyped and want a good bf

if it sucks, instant refund

[fickle coral]

i am super duper cereal

[sour ginkgo]

i preordered also the ultimate edition it was only 120 usd

[shrewd rivet]

only??

thats a lot of money 😭