battlefield-2042

[slim quiver]

they did that with WW1 and it sold the most out of any series

[hazy vector]

if it's not fair to judge a game by the trailer, than why are we even hyped for 2042

[spark acorn]

it still felt like a ww1 game than bfv did as a ww2 game

[arctic grove]

BF1 was 1000x more realistic than V

[upper abyss]

yeah

[tender wind]

WW1 is not the same, people didn't grow up on WW1 games

[slim quiver]

It did not feel anything like a WW1 game lmao

[spark acorn]

it didn't, ycorrect.

[slim quiver]

It was a ww1 skin and it played like a ww2 shooter

[spark acorn]

but to those who played it, it definitely did

[upper abyss]

like the game, looked and sounded messy, a bit like ww1

[spark acorn]

but still, people running machine guns in an urban area is lol xd

[slim quiver]

literally 90% of the weapons used in BF1 were not commonly and or ever used on any front

[spark acorn]

especially in ww1

[spark acorn]

correct again

but ur missing the point here

people FELT like the game was like ww1

in reality it wasn't even like that at all

most weapons were rifles the recons used

[tender wind]

I won't defend bf1 I think it was the worst game in the franchise by far

[upper abyss]

would you prefer only having bolt-action rifles in bf1 and bf5?

[slim quiver]

how did people not feel like the game was ww2 in BFV? you had the tanks, the weapons

[spark acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-dwarf-pissed-gif-5261161

[slim quiver]

thats what people are saying they would prefer if they complain about historical accuracy

why complain about historical accuracy and then only do it for 1 game?

[upper abyss]

measure your words carefully (jk)

[spark acorn]

fun, very fun game.

[slim quiver]

I like the fact that BFV did what it did

[dusk bronze]

bf has never been historically accurate lol 😂 😂 😂 😂

[slim quiver]

i like the fact BF1 did what it did

[spark acorn]

but yes, it felt very lacklustre after a while

[spark acorn]

[tender wind]

If your idea of fun is wanting to drown yourself in bleach yeah

[arctic grove]

forcing diversity into the game, calling fans who disagreed with their choice bigots, took actual war stories from real life and then removed the real heros in place of some more forced diversity, attempting to change history with their own version and then acting like it was what really happened, etc.

[upper abyss]

The game shouldn't stray too far from reality, just enouph for it to be fun

[spark acorn]

yes, thats fun.

i want to play bf1 again at the start when it came out

[dusk bronze]

bf is sandbox game not history simulator😂 😂 😂 😂

[spark acorn]

truly an amazing experience

[main patio]

I am Adamaxius.

[spark acorn]

yo yo, hook me up with an 'MRE'.

[spark acorn]

I am Terranical.

[slim quiver]

BF1 Had diversity in areas where there was none in the actual scheme of things of WW1. War stories are just like w/e not everyone even played them. As for everything else, its a video game.

[lavish shadow]

battleifeld has never been realistic in its gunplay or movement or anything
its only been realistic in its atmosphere in the sense that it makes u feel like ur really there and immerses u in it

[upper abyss]

it's part of the problem

[spark acorn]

this guy gets it ya ya

[upper abyss]

yeah

[arctic grove]

Actually no, historically every diverse character in BF1 had some real world presence

[slim quiver]

if you take away the "forced diversity" and the "women in war" argument, every single criticism that bfv has is found in every BF game pretty much

[arctic grove]

that's just not true

[slim quiver]

armies were not diverse the way BF1 portrayed them

[spark acorn]

yeah right, i don't think a german askari was fighting in the western front

[spark acorn]

that black german recon soldier was weird but i didn't care about his colour, just the gameplay.

[slim quiver]

entire units were segregated

[lavish shadow]

[lavish shadow]

[spark acorn]

aka, austrians

[arctic grove]

Germans did actually have middle eastern and African divisions

[slim quiver]

^

[lavish shadow]

[tender wind]

BFV failed miserably in marketing and the game itself was just meh, that plus making decisions the entire community disagreed with was a recipe for disaster

[spark acorn]

it didn't show hungarians eating

[slim quiver]

they had their own divisions yes

[spark acorn]

or romanians being romans

[slim quiver]

that were not fighting along side western front germans

[spark acorn]

or da croatians being angry being called serbians

[slim quiver]

they were fighting in their own campaign

[main patio]

I welcome thee and give thanks fort thine response. I look forward to clashing together and against. Farewell, friend! See you on the field of battle.

[spark acorn]

yeah but were their A MAJORITY OF IT?

you dont see german askaris in the western front AT ALL

they were used in the german african campaigns in german west and east africa

[upper abyss]

the gameplay's fine, honestly i liked the gunplay (especially the reload animations and the movement mecanics)

[slim quiver]

If someone actually can start naming reasons to really hate BFV without using the words Diversity, women, politics. I would love to hear it

[spark acorn]

Thy friend, I shall see you in the battlefront, thee battle will be LEGENDARY!!

[slim quiver]

Attrition was BFV's biggest flaw imo

[tender wind]

It's meh, not terrible but it's not fun either. They shouldn't have messed with the ttk so much when everyone told them not too regardless.

[arctic grove]

there is a difference between having a single colored recon character, and having a British soldier with blue smurf facepaint and a hook hand mow down a bald German soldier in a trench coat with a tommy gun right next to another black British soldier with a red beret and a katana

[spark acorn]

Attrition was actually enjoyable, is that wrong?

I actually liked resupplying my tanks.

[upper abyss]

yes, the ttk's messed up

[slim quiver]

why does it matter though if people have customization? @arctic grove its a video game

[slim quiver]

No not wrong, you just liked it

[upper abyss]

fair point

[quick linden]

people who care about that shit are so fucking cringe

[spark acorn]

They changed it like twice without the community saying "oh yeah change it, it is terrible".

TTK change in BFV was fucking stupid

[slim quiver]

listen if you care about historical accuracy in games, you must have not grown up playing ww2 shooters for the PS2

[arctic grove]

when you say "ww2 game" in the marketing, people are expecting a ww2 game, not a weird customization sim with out of place whacky looking cosmetics

[hazy vector]

they probably would play shooters on PC

[slim quiver]

because all of their campaigns were massively historically inaccurate ad they were cool as hell

[split parcel]

Which one of them?

[upper abyss]

or just play some games like verdun or tannenburg

[spark acorn]

all of em

[tender wind]

They've been nerfing the ttk in bf games ever since bf3, they tried to take a step back with bfv but then wanted to nerf it all over again

[spark acorn]

okay that was a joke

[slim quiver]

How does 1942 get a pass then

[upper abyss]

mostly bolt-action rifles and 1-hit kills

[slim quiver]

Is someone going to defend BF1942 for having stealth bombers, germans flying zeroes at the battle of britain and jet packs as a in game pick up?

[spark acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/neebs-gaming-hank-and-jed-neebs-animation-woohoo-gif-15640259

[hazy vector]

nobody will defend 1942 because to most it doesn't exist

[spark acorn]

bet

[slim quiver]

I love 1942

[dusk bronze]

😂

[spark acorn]

also its true cuz PC gaming back then isn't as popular as it is now

so nobody would really know wat bf1942 is at all

[hazy vector]

it was, just not as internet connected as it is now

[slim quiver]

and thats how i knew that anything inaccurate in BFV didnt matter because they have been doing inaccurate things 16 years before BFV's release

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver just stop coping and accept that not everyone has to be forced to like BFV and there are legit reasons why people dislike it

[upper junco]

But u havent stated any ffs -.-

[split parcel]

Some people here weren't even born when Battlefield 1942 was active

[quick linden]

yeah because it’s fun sitting in trenches for hours because it’s “immersive”

[spark acorn]

bet, majority of those that hated the game just joined in the hate bandwagon because of how the trailer looked

[slim quiver]

I can accept objective reasons to not like a video game. I will not accept "women or diversity in MY war game! rreeee" as a reason. It simply is just so trivial

[arctic grove]

I have stated plenty

As I beginner I decided to be the co-drive in tanks and a Engineer in BF4.

[dusk bronze]

[upper junco]

Its understandable people didnt like it.. But holy.. You are just reguitating bs i've heard before... "women" LMAO

[solid spear]

partaly not 100%

[hazy vector]

can you also accept being a good mod and not keeping a argument about apparently nothing alive

[spark acorn]

man its 100% true

[arctic grove]

I personally prefer more historically accurate games when they are set in time periods such as those, I get it if you are different, that was a more subjective point.

[slim quiver]

Being a mod doesn't mean I have to change my ideals

[arctic grove]

Pls just make the bots ai on 2042 based on the skills of the C100.

[upper junco]

Yeah u bet it was subjective

Historic huh bet u play a lot of historic games! 😎

[slim quiver]

Which is why im wondering how you could stand BF1

[solid spear]

the trailer did not justify the game but my experience with the game has been subpar compared to other games in the series, game was still good though. this is just my opinion, you can have yours.

[quick linden]

it’s literally a battlefield game, what do you expect. Play post scriptom if you’re so horny over immersion

[robust egret]

wow the salt

[slim quiver]

since the equipment used in BF1 most of it didnt leave prototype or beyond paper

[worn whale]

Robotic arm girl go brrr

[arctic grove]

because in my opinion it was a lot less out there than BFV

[spark acorn]

game was really enjoyable and yea hi agree with what u say

[slim quiver]

Okay so then it was the women and diversity

because as for the equipment most of those weapons were actually used in ww2

[worn whale]

BF1 and female soldiers too btw

in the Russian faction

[arctic grove]

no the weapons and other things were also a lot less out there in bf1

[slim quiver]

Im just trying to understand which part made BFV more out there than 1

What?

the weapons?

[worn whale]

but they didn't scream like dying raccoons every time they got shot

[crimson wasp]

Can't wait to do this in BF2042

[arctic grove]

no holo sights

[slim quiver]

BF1 had red dot sights tho

[arctic grove]

no it didn't

[tender wind]

Yeah it did

[slim quiver]

even the rsc optical had a dot sight

[arctic grove]

They also have tritium sights.

[dusk bronze]

it was a prosthesis not a robot arm

[slim quiver]

yea

[arctic grove]

which was accurate

[slim quiver]

like what, optics in ww1 were extremely rarely used

any gun that had an optical variant never existed besides recon, and the scopes weren't even always like that

[ember yarrow]

My God, how can you still defend this ??

[split parcel]

I feel like Battlefield V had a rocky launch (mostly due to the trailer and prosthetic arm). Then people were too stubborn to change their opinion.

It's like people still trash on Elder Scrolls Online today because if its state on launch.

[slim quiver]

to be fair the prosthetic was 1940's accurate

[slim quiver]

its funny because the arm was never in the game

it was just in a trailer

[ember yarrow]

Luckily

[arctic grove]

I played BFV for a long time and I still never really liked it, even pushing aside all the customization and other stuff a lot of their design choices were really stupid

[slim quiver]

even if it was in the game, it really wouldnt have mattered

[upper junco]

"Luckily" rofl

[split parcel]

That's what I mean. People got angy based on the trailer, and then never changed their minds

[upper junco]

NO DOTN U SEE?!?! IT woudl haVE RuIneD it

[tender wind]

My biggest issues with bfv were the awareness and the scaling/map design

[slim quiver]

I actually hope in BF2042 they come up with the wackiest customization we have ever seen. God that will be the very best

[upper junco]

Yep same

[arctic grove]

nobody wants that

[lean wolf]

big pass for me

[arctic grove]

nobody wants clowns running around like cod

[upper junco]

I do

So I can piss people off

❤️

[slim quiver]

I dont want a clown but I want themed customization skins and everything. Everyone will be so mad over nothing

[ember yarrow]

Then why not have Belle Delphine purple dildo packs ? (like BOCW)

[dusk bronze]

I not defend some people do not distinguish prosthesis from robot arm😂

[hazy vector]

excuse me what

[arctic grove]

CODm has cos characters but its pointless since there are kids wearing Park of Scarlett.

I just want a nameless soldier who irl time is a bro to teammates.

[quick linden]

I want to be fully pink with a pony helmet, so they see my glory when I skydive off a skyscraper

[slim quiver]

they dont have those

[split parcel]

Based on how many compare Battlefield to a realistic war simulator, I can't imagine the outcry if we'd have customization with kitty ears, colorful camouflage, or graffiti stickers

[slim quiver]

that would be cool as hell, and pink is a cute color

[tender wind]

I hope there's team based shaders regardless of what customisation you choose

[slim quiver]

kitty ears are cute, i have them on my headset rn

would love to have them on a helmet

[arctic grove]

wdym by themed skins

[split parcel]

I don't mind them either, but that's not my point

[spark acorn]

camper

[lean wolf]

ridiculous customisation is not good customisation

[ember yarrow]

yeah sure

[spark acorn]

or tank killer

[hazy vector]

turning the game into fortnut

[spark acorn]

or helicopter camper killer

[slim quiver]

You know skins that follow a theme. Post apocalyptic theme, maybe civilian private contractor themes

[arctic grove]

I just want BF to finally use camos like Multicam and Marpat.

[crimson wasp]

[tender wind]

We already know there's a south lord skin so it's gonna be wild anyway

[ember yarrow]

Ok you're actually a furry

[tender wind]

Sith*

[arctic grove]

I have never heard anyone seriously say they want fucking cat ears in battlefield

insanity

[hazy vector]

ofcourse they don't

[slim quiver]

Nope, just a girl

[upper junco]

bruh u over the top dude

[slim quiver]

i like cats, cats are cute

[hazy vector]

and soldiers aren't cats

[split parcel]

Mreow

[arctic grove]

I want a bipod knife and shbucket in the gold edition.

[tender wind]

You don't need cats, we have penguins already

[arctic grove]

no

[hazy vector]

battlefield is not a cute game and it will never be

[upper junco]

penguin outfit

[slim quiver]

putting cat ears on a helmet? how is that making them a cat, i dont mean the actual fur ears lmao

[slim quiver]

well they will probably do it anyways so it doesnt really matter

luckily we have the GM from CoD that was in charge of the live service now the GM for BF doing the same role

[arctic grove]

I will say BFV's actual skins did a good job at maintaining a somewhat consistent look while also looking cool

[split parcel]

We had themed skins in BFV, so chances are we'll have them in BF2042 as well

[slim quiver]

^

[tender wind]

COD's live service was not fun, the amount of grind in that game is ridiculous

[slim quiver]

oh the grind is dumb

[arctic grove]

none of the actual skins in bfv were that insane, most crazy one was the firestorm one

[slim quiver]

and yet everyone complained at how unrealistic they were

[arctic grove]

oh they were

but they looked cool

[spark acorn]

i want to kiss u

[tender wind]

To be fair, hearing the women scream in bfv was annoying/distracting, but I think I just hated the voices more than the fact they were women

[slim quiver]

which is why i want DICE to really hit it up a huge notch since its a modern fantasy war in the future that literally nobody can comment on realism about because we have not reached that stage in time yet nor has a war like this ever happened

[spark acorn]

yes really was annoying

[split parcel]

The cinder ones were the most out of place skins. The ones with ash and ember

[arctic grove]

still don't want cat ears in a gritty war shooter

stupid af

[spark acorn]

highly unliekly we will get ww3 very soon

[spice burrow]

As long as they are realistic and relatable to the game and not facepaint robot arm then its fine

[slim quiver]

its not a gritty war shooter tho

[spark acorn]

but ww3 is still a possibility in da future

[split parcel]

Kitty war shooter

[slim quiver]

its a sandbox shooter

[arctic grove]

trailer and lore disagree

[spark acorn]

mara kitty suit

[hazy vector]

Just because a guy came over from cod does not make it good

[spice burrow]

Have you played bf1?

[quick linden]

cringe

[slim quiver]

there is nothing gritty about BF, BF1 is the only game i'd find gritty out of the entire series

[split parcel]

Trailer and gameplay rarely represent each other

[robust egret]

gritty war shooter = squiad

[slim quiver]

yes, its the only one that did BF right in terms of atmosphere

[tender wind]

What about that trailer was gritty to you? It was mindless fun.

[slim quiver]

BF2042 was extremely sand boxy in the way they showed that trailer. it was just chaotic and fun

[glad surge]

BF aka who gives a fuck about the Geneva convention

[spice burrow]

I just got done with a 5 hour bf1 session actually my eyes fucking burn

[slim quiver]

nothing about the trailer was bloody or gruesome or anything

[hazy vector]

It was sandy alright

[upper junco]

Rendezook.. Gritty AF 😎

[arctic grove]

the entire game is literally about starving and poor mercs fighting over the remaining food and energy sources on the planet lol

[spice burrow]

*Geneva suggestion

[split parcel]

And the lore is close to non-existent so far

[quick linden]

cap, when I play squad people be screaming down the mic and playing house music

[slim quiver]

thing is, its just not gritty

[arctic grove]

The part where grapling hook

Then the guy stab.

Since the other guy have the sniper.

I imagine if he just steal the kill lol.

[slim quiver]

i 100% bet when we shoot people in that game there will not be blood decals that splatter on the ground and the walls

[quick linden]

bro you need the drip if you’re gonna kick ass

[arctic grove]

that's stupid as fuck

[slim quiver]

how?

you want gritty right

people bleed when they get shot btw

[spark acorn]

awesome!!!!!!!

[arctic grove]

bf has always had blood what are you even saying

cope harder

[slim quiver]

BF has not had blood the way i just described

[spark acorn]

y u care, it isn't even gonna happen irl

[spice burrow]

Its frostbite 4.0 so it most likely will have things like that

[tender wind]

So? That's just backstory, says nothing about the game

[dusk bronze]

I will never understand this bfv hate train....😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[spark acorn]

women robot with arm

[slim quiver]

i have never seen blood splatter all over the place from plugging 20 rounds in someone. Nor have i see legs and arms blow off in BF from grenades

[spice burrow]

Bad trailer and basically bf1 reskin somehow worse

[split parcel]

I actually saw a blood decal on the wall of an elevator after i blew him up with an RPG

[quick linden]

who cares , it was never in the game anyways

[slim quiver]

Oh really? thats interesting

[arctic grove]

story? lore? yeah says ABSOLUTELY nothing about the game

[spark acorn]

women with robot hands

[slim quiver]

The game doesnt have a campaign so i doubt anyone cares about the story

[coarse vortex]

yes

[split parcel]

I'd imagine it's rare though, because I reacted to it as well when I saw it

[tender wind]

It doesn't, that's nice if you like to read about it but when it comes to playing it means nothing

[slim quiver]

yeah exactly

[spice burrow]

Blood gets on guns in bf1 and V when you kill up close

[slim quiver]

Battlefield besides BF1 has just never got real good grit

[slim quiver]

this i know happens in bf1

never seen blood on a gun in V tho

again BF1 was a step in the right direction in terms of atmosphere

[upper junco]

U dont get close enough! 😎

[slim quiver]

the game had a perfect war atmosphere

[split parcel]

The Battlefield 1 campaign was pretty gritty, come to think of it

[spice burrow]

Ww1 is gritty by itself so yeah

[slim quiver]

and then they scrapped it for some reason

i mean both ww1 and ww2 were very brutal

[arctic grove]

Atleast they emphasize that when you "respawn" you just play as another soldier.

This argument is pointless, literally the only thing I'm gunna say is, I really don't want this to be the next rainbow 6 or warzone with the cosmetics, it ruined the entire tones of the game and also broke a lot of stuff like visibility and hit boxes, its just stupid.

[slim quiver]

its just not a gritty shooter imo. Its a sandbox war shooter.

[tender wind]

Never understood the love for the war stories, just poor quality cutscens and mindnumbing gameplay

[split parcel]

That was a nice touch

[slim quiver]

I just want a fun shooter with cool customization

without it being boring

[upper junco]

Alright

[hazy vector]

Go play fortnite then

[arctic grove]

Unlike COD where you just change loadout and play as Mara with another 5 Maras.

[spice burrow]

I just want a nameless soldier all i need

[slim quiver]

the fact that some people only wanted different camos for military fatigues was exactly why i get scared for BF customization

[slim quiver]

not an argument

[hazy vector]

Not everything is an argument woman

[upper junco]

Freaking yikes

[tender wind]

Don't understand the obsession with soldier customisation either, it's an fps you don't even get to see it for the most part

[split parcel]

Stop trying to gatekeep Battlefield lmao

[spice burrow]

Based

[slim quiver]

Im going to ask you to not try and not be sexist @hazy vector

[hard breach]

What did I walk in on again?

[slim quiver]

me being a girl has absolutely nothing to do with anything

[hard breach]

Every time I come back here some new spicy drama is going on.

[quick linden]

looks cool in customisable screen

[arctic grove]

I agree with you on this, I just dont want it to be too over the top, it has to maintain somewhat of a consistent style with just a slight tad of setting awareness like BFV

[split parcel]

Poor mods

[tender wind]

Give me better weapon customisation over that any day

[slim quiver]

Im okay with that, i just dont want only camos

[quick linden]

true

[slim quiver]

I think only camos is severely outdated

[spice burrow]

There is no point in cosmetics either if its first person

[hard breach]

I am all for customization

[arctic grove]

Camos I like is Multicam and Flectarn.

[slim quiver]

well for guns it is, people just like cosmetics even in first person tho

[hard breach]

Thing is, others will get to see you as well. I personally find it cool for everyone to look somewhat unique rather than gunning down the same 3-4 guys

[split parcel]

Even if I don't see my character, customization is still a way for me to feel immersed in the game.

[hard breach]

its not that big of a deal, but it is nice to have it

[arctic grove]

again I agree, I just dont wanna see people in clown armor sets and bright pink pony gear, not only does it affect visibility, but it ruins the tone of the game, you can still have cool customization without making things super super outlandish

[arctic grove]

Yup like you can see it on the loadout screen.

[spice burrow]

Ah yes my purple glowing led M16 immersion 100%

[slim quiver]

Oh i dont care about the pink armor stuff, i wouldnt equip it anyways

[hard breach]

When I think of FPS skins I think of garry's mod where you change your model to whatever you can make or find. While it does not affect you that much, it makes you look different than others

[spice burrow]

Oh hell yea pink armor

[quick linden]

have they said anything about the specialists, in regard if they are gonna be the same character model or will they all be customisable through ethnicity and shit

[hard breach]

rather than everyone being the standard model

[arctic grove]

Multicam P90 with Yellow M21 Meprolight and Canted See All Nite Sight.

[upper junco]

I would gib pink pls

[slim quiver]

i do think gun skins should be outlandish tho in some regard. Because you wont ever really be looking at someones gun, i just dont want skins that glow or have some lightning effect

[arctic grove]

People do, thats the problem

[crimson wasp]

I'd prefer if my enemies used pink armor :) would be easy to see them :)

[tender wind]

I think the generic soldier look is more enjoyable then everyone running the same meta skins like warzone/fortnite

[spice burrow]

Pink is for da boys

[arctic grove]

to be fair, in gmod it has a huge effect on hitboxes and hitreg

[hazy vector]

It changes your hit box as well actually, some models even are so broken they don't have a designated head

[slim quiver]

yeah but everyone likes their own thing

[hard breach]

oh, I forgot bout that.

[slim quiver]

Im not against having people enjoy different types of customization, its a video game after all

[hard breach]

I mostly just use random humanoids rather than super-unique PMs

[spice burrow]

I want a full pink suit like filthy frank for 2042 pls

[slim quiver]

I like the idea of the weapon charms, those are really cute

[hard breach]

Yeah

[arctic grove]

in my mind, seeing a guy in a fully decked out clown armor set would make it go from a war game to a nerf battle

[tender wind]

One thing I would like is a stat tracker like csgo

[spice burrow]

Hopefully custom emblems come back

[slim quiver]

well with battlefields lack of grit yes

[hard breach]

Ngl I kinda want to have random interior decos like in HAWKEN. Just random smol additions to your first person view for shits and giggles

[split parcel]

Ooh, i hope we get nerf gun skins

[arctic grove]

Nope not only unrealistic cosmetic.

Increase of gun weight.

[arctic grove]

[quick linden]

charms are cool, they’re good in pubg and cod

[arctic grove]

Sure, but the military game get ruined by this. If you want as a player skins like that, there are games like Valorant allowed for all that colors

[spice burrow]

Whats with you and grit lol

[robust egret]

realism

[slim quiver]

lmao because it was called gritty haha, i was just kidding

[tender wind]

A return of emblems on your soldier/vehicle like bf4 would be nice too but it seems they're just going with that "N" instead

[hard breach]

2042 isnt the type of game most go for realism of appearance

[slim quiver]

but the tone of BF hasn't been somber since 1

[hard breach]

i mean theres a giant ass tornado around the map with futuristic vehicles all round

[arctic grove]

Lol all fortniteish games, br games and games where you can't aim all banished in the dark multiverse.

[hazy vector]

I wouldn't call a regular tracked vehicle futuristic

[arctic grove]

from the trailers 2042 looks to be maintaining a cool looking, but grounded somewhat in reality cosmetics system, I just hope it can stay like that

[hard breach]

Well to me they looked a bit futuristic

[slim quiver]

but the problem is people think military games get ruined by a million things. The game is set in 2042, 21 years into the future. Nobody can say whats military suitable or not in that era, thats the whole point. Its not a milsim, its a sandbox military shooter

[spice burrow]

The trailer wont even look like the final product you guys seem to forget this

[arctic grove]

no shit

[arctic grove]

Milsim would be like

To fix your vector suit you need s t r i n g s

[bleak nebula]

I want purple skins for my jets 🤔

[split parcel]

The gameplay trailer?

[arctic grove]

Right but... I hope the army dont take pink guns in future singing Barbie girl

[quick linden]

if cosmetics are militarised, it should look good

[slim quiver]

If people want realism in customization because its Military, why don't they want realism in the projectiles? like a sniper not lobbing their bullets like a tennis ball past 150 meters

[pale pasture]

Battlefield 2042

[spice burrow]

That was made in pre alpha so by the tike we play it at launch it will look much better

[hard breach]

I personally do not see a problem with more extensive customization, as long as it is not just flat out clown costumes

[arctic grove]

I want a multicam bipod knife then.

[split parcel]

Or worse. We don't know

[tender wind]

They already have the sith lord, there's gonna be some wacky skins

[arctic grove]

as if gunplay has anything in the slightest to do with customization

[quick linden]

clown costume strikes fear into the enemies

[slim quiver]

well technically since you're a PMC, you own your own equipment, and people even in todays time have anime decals on their guns as civilians. So who knows

[quick linden]

did that in pubg

[hard breach]

To be honest Id be scared shitless if ronald mcdonald came over with a tank

[arctic grove]

Even anime sights lol.

[slim quiver]

it fits into the whole "i want the game to feel realistic and military simulated"

[spice burrow]

Nah it will look better if you look at every BF gameplay trailer they always look worse than the final product

[slim quiver]

more and more people want BF to basically become squad

which for whatever reason i dont really get

[hazy vector]

More people want it to not be 1 and 5

[hard breach]

Whats "squad"?

Some other game I have not heard about?

[spice burrow]

Realistic military shooter

[hard breach]

Oh

[quick linden]

realistic boring military game

[hazy vector]

They want to be any of the modern ones

[arctic grove]

Cmon BF is BF.

Atleast milsimmers appreciate it.

And CODsofters hate it.

B a l a n c e.

[slim quiver]

Why would people not want BF to be more like BF1 when it sold 11 million more copies than BF4? @hazy vector

[hard breach]

When I think of anything """realistic""" I think of arma III

[tender wind]

I would rather it was like any other BF than BF1

[hazy vector]

Squad is a evolution of the project reality mod for battlefield 2

[quick linden]

port from arma I think

[arctic grove]

dude holy shit can you not comprehend a basic line between reality and full on implausible madness without immediately jumping to "OH THIS PERSON MUST WANT SQUAD!!!!"

[slim quiver]

But thats what people have been saying actually these past few weeks here

[hard breach]

I personally loved BF1 and V, both are pretty fun games

[arctic grove]

Or GTA SA with super wet water

[spice burrow]

Its all about the trailers and marketing, bf1 was realesed when cod was a shit show so it sold like wild fire

[arctic grove]

Atleast BFV better than COD:WW2

[hard breach]

While EA sorta dropped V early, it still is entertaining. And BF1 is just great

[arctic grove]

okay I am not one of those idiots, literally all I am saying is that I don't want fucking clown outfits and cat boy cosmetics

[slim quiver]

Infinite warfare still sold more than BF1 sadly

[hazy vector]

Sales copies mean nothing if the game doesn't hold up

[slim quiver]

well im not a boy so i dont share the same interest in your cosmetic taste tbh

[spice burrow]

Most cod sales are to people who play the game for a month then stop

[arctic grove]

That downvote is the metal armed girl that got banned by the Server Admins.

[spice burrow]

But we all know bf1 was better

[slim quiver]

BF1 is the highest rated battlefield game i believe

got an 88 critic wise

[hard breach]

Wat...

[arctic grove]

don't care, point still stands

[slim quiver]

pretty sure a lot of people loved BF1

[tender wind]

BF1 was one of the worst fps games I've ever played, it was an abhorrent experience

[slim quiver]

Yeah but thats my point. My point still stands as well, all cosmetic stuff is subjective

[robust egret]

?

[hard breach]

What do you think it did wrong? I personally liked it

[robust egret]

bf1 was pretty fun

[tender wind]

Pretty much everything, it would take me hours to list everything I think is wrong with it

[quick linden]

it’s the best FPS game if you’re good at it 😈

[hard breach]

Can you at least just list a few more major things? I am honestly curious.

[proven torrent]

I never played bf1 personally but from what I see its definitely not a mess...

[tender wind]

I was better at it than any other bf I play, still hated it

[slim quiver]

The only difference is, Im okay with seeing any type of customization whether its realistic or not, but other people are not okay with seeing customization that is beyond what they want. if that makes sense

[spice burrow]

You're missing out just picked it up last week and I've been having a blast

[arctic grove]

cope harder

[quick linden]

all experienced based at the end of the day. If you don’t like it fair enough

[slim quiver]

Im not coping though

[arctic grove]

I have a low kdr in BF4 but its what makes it fun. Since war is about survival not run around and 360 kids.

In Silk Road all I did was be a co-driver on a tank. Very fun.

[arctic grove]

cope

[tender wind]

Suppression, behemoths, elite soldiers, cavalry, headshot multiplier, damage drop off etc

[slim quiver]

How is it out of this entire conversation ive gone without resorting to what you're doing

[arctic grove]

seethe

[slim quiver]

Tbh you seethed more than me colonel

[hard breach]

Hmm I see. I personally dont really like the elite soldiars

[arctic grove]

cope?

[hard breach]

Behemoths are cool but at the end kinda pointless since 99% they dont turn shit around for the losing team

[slim quiver]

I mean you couldnt cope with BFV @arctic grove

[tender wind]

They just made the game very easy to be good at and removed pretty much all depth from bf

[hazy vector]

and here we go again with promoting arguments

[proven torrent]

I was thinking of buying it since it's like $5 bucks on origin on sale right now... (worth it? if I start from zero now?)

[slim quiver]

Im not promoting an argument

[arctic grove]

Id rather have a nameless default soldier that is a loyal teammate in the game.

Than a skin that has a heroic lore but is a toxic gamer doing trickshots.

[stark mason]

BF1 was one of the worst fps games I've ever played, it was an abhorrent experience
@tender wind Hello i play since BF2 and BF1 is my favorite :)

[slim quiver]

I have not tried to sway him into any possible line of thinking, he has his opinion and I have mine

[hard breach]

Hmm.. I am not really experienced in shooters and I suck hard at anything infantry, so I cannot really speak on that. Vehicles can kick ass doe

[arctic grove]

yeah I couldn't so I stopped playing it, at least I can learn to let things go

[slim quiver]

Not really tho because you still had a very passionate explanation of why you didnt like it

[tender wind]

The vehicles were even worse offenders of removing the depth, they were dumbed down so much

[spice burrow]

I bought the revolution for $8 it has all the dlc plus premium pass which gives you 27 care packages i started from zero and got good guns already plus 2x xp is on always

[hard breach]

I was personally fine with them not being too hard to control. I mean often I end up driving a multi-person vehicle with nobody in

so I just pick the small solo tank

[arctic grove]

yes explaining the many objective flaws it has was very "passionate" people explain what they don't like about shitty games all the time, doesn't mean they haven't moved on

[proven torrent]

noice... imma buy revolution then too

[slim quiver]

The diversity part wasnt really objective, thats just a subjective take

if you talked about game mechanics, lack of content, thats objective

[tender wind]

Not about control, just about what they can do, they were far more stationary and everything has mad splash damage, you just sit back and spam

[slim quiver]

attrition, bugs, lack of content thats all very much objective

[arctic grove]

other stuff was objective but yet you continually ignore it so you can act like BFV is actually really good 👍

[quick linden]

the real question is, is gold edition worth the £80 or should I buy standard

[slim quiver]

BFV being good or bad is up to the player

not just 1 person on discord

[arctic grove]

it's objectively bad

[tender wind]

If you really need to play a week early then yeah, otherwise no

[slim quiver]

Idk about that one

[hard breach]

Yeah, I get that. Tho infantry has a lot of ways to deal with vehicles, so them being stationary would make them a lot less desireable

too stationary I mean

not completely, poor wording

[slim quiver]

If thats the case, BF1 is the best BF game ever made

[lapis eagle]

4 battlepasses for £20 is a bargain too

[tender wind]

Plus with the removal of an engineer class you basically killed any coordination/teamplay that was there

[arctic grove]

well it definitely had the smoothest launch, so the official critic reviews make sense

[hard breach]

I heard BF2042 gonna make vehicles harder to control and stuff

[slim quiver]

Smoothest launch, Highest critic score, Most sales

[quick linden]

what about in terms of battle passes, cause I’ll probably play long enough to see year 1, so it might be worth the extra £20 for all year 1 content, surely it would add up to the prices of all battle passes

[slim quiver]

you name it, it topped em all

[arctic grove]

yep

it deserved it

[tender wind]

You mean £30 kind of average for BP's but I don't care about that stuff, just got it for the week early access

[hard breach]

I have never experienced said engineer class, so can you shed me some light on what exactly it did that is different from support?

[arctic grove]

1 had amazing marketing and a ton of content

[slim quiver]

okay then we can agree, BF1 is the greatest BF game ever

[quick linden]

I thought standard was £60

[lapis eagle]

Base game is £60 gold is £80 so its only £20 more

[arctic grove]

according to the objective review score, yeah

[robust egret]

nah greatest bf is between3 and 4

[tender wind]

Was £50 when I checked

[robust egret]

tf did that reply for

[slim quiver]

And just the sheer volume of sales

[robust egret]

my b

[slim quiver]

and that also means BF3 is better than BF4

[lapis eagle]

I would agree with this map wise

[arctic grove]

4 at launch was horrible yeah

[robust egret]

if bf3 had 4's tech itd be hands down 3

[hazy vector]

i wouldn't call a 88% metacritic score for BF1 that masively better as BF4's 81%

[lapis eagle]

Every battlefield game has majorly improved upon something

[bleak nebula]

battlefield 3 has better score tho

[hazy vector]

knowing metacritic is a mess

[slim quiver]

BF3 and BF1942 both had 89% on metacritic

making them the highest rated BF games i believe in the series

[hard breach]

I personally dont trust metacritic that much

[charred bloom]

What did V improve on?

[slim quiver]

critically that is

[hazy vector]

nobody takes metacritic seriously

[tender wind]

In theory not much, in practice you would be hard pressed to succeed without running engineer yourself and your gunner, quickly jumping out to rep or get an extra rocket off on an enemy vehicle added a lot

[arctic grove]

but I thought that was 1? twisting the narrative I see..

[bleak nebula]

also user score

[hazy vector]

aside from the sales people in the dev studios handing out bonuses

[slim quiver]

omni directional movement, better animations and smoother movement, recoil patterns that you can learn

[slim quiver]

Well BF1 had the most sales

[hard breach]

I personally never jump out of a vehicle im driving to repair since it always gets stolen

like whats the point of me getting out if I am gonna lose it

[slim quiver]

so statistically its the greatest as people enjoyed it more overall in larger quantity

[arctic grove]

tbh random recoil was better

[slim quiver]

BF1942 sales only received a couple million

[tender wind]

That's why you have a gunner in previous bf games

[slim quiver]

I like spray patterns, im used to play CS and it fit me better than RNG bloom

[hazy vector]

do those sales include people buying it for cheap "because why not try it"

[still vault]

There were way less gamers back when 1942 released. Games just didn't sell that much back then.

[hard breach]

Im talking stealing by allies. Someone just walks and gets in, and drives off with my tank

[lapis eagle]

In my opinion the vehicle combat was the greatest with a greater damage model but in terms of mechanics such as the ammo and aircraft being able to repair on the fly was a bit oofy

[slim quiver]

If they do they would also count towards every BF game that goes on sale

[arctic grove]

yeah but that's the problem, it doesn't fit BF's casual style of gameplay, random recoil makes the game a lot more fair to more people

[tender wind]

Yeah that can't happen if you're still in it, which you can do with a gunner

[slim quiver]

True but then you had like games like diablo and such that sold like 20 million in 1998

[hazy vector]

and it wouldn't show you the people that bought it for 3 dollars, and then played it for 10 hours

[slim quiver]

it was also on PC only so its even harder to get millions and millions of sales

if 1942 was on PS2 maybe it would have sold differently

[tender wind]

Sales are such a poor way to judge popularity when you don't take into account all the factors of the time periods and marketing

[hard breach]

yeah having allies that actually can listen and help is absolutely amazing, even if in something like that. In V a few days ago my tank got stuck in a poorly placed ditch, and an ally drove in a small car to make a ramp for me to leave. It worked

[hard breach]

Remember Cyberpunk

[slim quiver]

It makes it more fair but creating a skill ceiling for the gunplay makes it feel better in terms of the player realizing theyre improving with something

[tender wind]

Yeah that stuff is enjoyable

[hazy vector]

cyberpunk is still a mess

just less of it

[still vault]

Can't really compare the 2 games. Very few had computers able to run Battlefield and had to go to netcafes, Diablo ran on everything.

[slim quiver]

good point

[hazy vector]

also, the PS2 did have a network connection but it was a addon. so you'd need to buy hardware to play 1942 properly

untill you bought the slim years later

[slim quiver]

also grand theft auto vice city basically seized most of the attention in 2002

[bleak nebula]

bf1 sales had also more to do with it being shooter set in the past when demand for it was high and supply low, and the trailer being phenomenal (plus cod being disappointing), not that it wasn't a great game, but the it didn't have necessarily more sales because it was best battlefield...

[slim quiver]

it was the biggest game of the year at that time i believe

[next isle]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
EA Play Live time is an estimate.

[arctic grove]

owwwwwwww

[bleak nebula]

hype

[arctic grove]

yeah

gg

[slim quiver]

yeah but the whole cod not being as good. It still ended up selling more than bf1 that year

[arctic grove]

29 days

[hazy vector]

also no the biggest game was elder scrolls

[slim quiver]

because like any cod

[bleak nebula]

ofcourse it did, because it's cod

[arctic grove]

proving that shit games can still sell well

despite shit marketing

[bleak nebula]

cod doing terrible still means outselling battlefield

[arctic grove]

bf1 was ahead for a bit

[slim quiver]

False actually

Grand theft auto vice city made 1.4 million copieswithin 2 days of releasing and became the highest selling game in 2002 and the fastest selling game in history at the time of 2002

morrowind only sold 4 million copies in its lifetime

[hazy vector]

oh and now we're suddenly switching to price

can't compare revenue and sales numbers

[slim quiver]

sorry i used the wrong word

it was 1.4 million copies in 2 days

morrowind sold 4 million by 2005

GTA sold 6 million by 2004

[arctic grove]

vice city is based

unlike gta 5

which sucks

[slim quiver]

So no morrowind was not that big of a game comparatively to its competitor

Oblivion is when elder scrolls took off

[slim quiver]

facts

[peak hill]

Lucifer: What do you desire?

Me: I... I want... I want a 128 player Base jump in one of the new maps

[arctic grove]

finally something agreeable

does any one know when is open beta testing ?

[errant cobalt]

yayayayayayayayy i want see new destruction tech on Ea play

[worn whale]

I just want to play

[slim quiver]

lmao its easier to agree with me than it looks

just not about BF games

[arctic grove]

what's ur favorite gta game then?

[slim quiver]

San andreas or Vice city

[errant cobalt]

gta 2

[slim quiver]

i'd even allow IV because i loved niko's character

[errant cobalt]

gta 1

gta china

[arctic grove]

4 was the best by far imo, almost everything it had was better than 5

[slim quiver]

4 had the best story imo

[hazy vector]

San andreas but only because i could replay it on PC. the PS2 version made me want to die after i realised what a drawing distance of more than 3 femtometers looked like

[arctic grove]

If I cant commit warcrimes in 2042 Im not getting it

[quick linden]

wtf gta 5 online best game ever made

[slim quiver]

Idk

GTA 5 was really bad imo

[quick linden]

I’ve had loads of fun on it

[arctic grove]

sure bud

[quick linden]

what’s wrong with online

[arctic grove]

totally not bioshock, or half life 2, or Mafia 2

no

gta online

Online is fun for like 5 minutes

then you get 12 year old child soldiers flying around on super bikes blowing everything up

[hazy vector]

online is fun for anything but freeroam

[arctic grove]

freeroam used to be the shit

[quick linden]

lmao, I knew someone was gonna insert oppressor crying

[arctic grove]

but now its full of trigger happy kids

[hazy vector]

getting flattened by the armored kuruma or whatever it was

[quick linden]

just play solo pub not hard

[arctic grove]

then its boring

[hazy vector]

or you get banned for pinking up money bags from hackers

[quick linden]

yeah if you’re solo

[arctic grove]

free roam was fun back when you and your mates got on an explored the map with the cool updates and had fair fights

now its whoever has the most autistic bike

[quick linden]

leave session

[quick linden]

I see where you’re coming from, but there’s more to online then free roam

racing was the best shit with friends

[hazy vector]

GTA online is just SA:MP but modern

[arctic grove]

yes

racing 100%

[quick linden]

Use to stay up till 7am playing with mates

best fun I had on games

[slim quiver]

Please refrain from using that emote here

Not the smiley one lol

The other one

[timid ember]

i am really curious as to what the death animation will be for 2042 👀

[hard breach]

First we need to confirm guns will be in the game

[hazy vector]

presumebly just falling over or ragdolling

[slim quiver]

yeah prob some sort of ragdoll

im sure they will enhance the animation for it though

[hazy vector]

unless it's the "medic" shouting again

[slim quiver]

i dont like how i can revive at range

thats going to be so awkward

[hazy vector]

you already could. now even more with the syrette

[slim quiver]

i just want a close revive instead of shooting with a syringe pistol

[hazy vector]

well don't use it if you don't like it

[slim quiver]

Im a medic main so ill probably use it regardless of whether or not i like it

i can only hope that maybe another medic specialist will be in the game

[quick linden]

I wonder if the bf5 revive mechanic will be 2042, that was pretty cool

[slim quiver]

so i can revive at a close range

[slim quiver]

im hoping. We know squad revives are bad

and if squad revives are back we can bet theres an animation to revive people

[quick linden]

I didn’t mind squad revives, provided better teamwork

[slim quiver]

i liked them

[upper junco]

Pretty sure i saw in the Gameplay that Sundance(Wingsuit) could revive a squad mate

[slim quiver]

yeah we still dont know what sort of specialist sundance is

im guessing assault

[upper junco]

Yeah assault am like 99%

[quick linden]

will the specialist all have the same character model

[hazy vector]

as you can see on the site, no

[slim quiver]

does it have sundance's info?

[hazy vector]

still not, only the first 3 afaik

[arctic grove]

Every squad member can revive another

That was confirmed right?

[night radish]

I think so

[hazy vector]

not that i know off. just that you happened to see icons on downed squad mates in the trailer

[cosmic swallow]

Not directly iirc

[arctic grove]

I mean, the medic specialist has a ranged revive tool, I think everyone can because of that

[hazy vector]

being able to be revived with a injection never sat well with me

[arctic grove]

@slim quiver why

[hazy vector]

worse as the not realistic defibs

[cosmic swallow]

Battlefield isn't a very realistic game series

It certainly has a level of realism tho

[lavish shadow]

No not officially said but probs looking true

[slim quiver]

Because we do not allow anything homophobic or just inappropriate language

[arctic grove]

immersion you mean

battlefield is not realistic

it is immersive

well most of them are anyway

[lavish shadow]

Sundance is gonna be my main fs 😂

[arctic grove]

cough v cough

[lavish shadow]

I think bfv can be immersive too

Like in uwu jima

[arctic grove]

what if the penguins in that one map attack you

oh yeah the dlc is nice

[bleak nebula]

[arctic grove]

Its not homophobic but alr

like those things in OG battlefront 2

[upper junco]

I just want dinos man. Since bf3.. 😦

[arctic grove]

geonosians

[upper junco]

Penguindinos

[arctic grove]

what if they give penguins sonic guns

i'm just hyped for the penguins man

[arctic grove]

hopefully there's a t rex easter egg this time

[upper junco]

YAS

[arctic grove]

imagine if it lets you release a t rex into the stadium

holy shit

I will crap my pants

[lofty tiger]

[arctic grove]

[lofty tiger]

that would be really cool

[arctic grove]

I'd love a wacky DLC like that

I'd unironically pay $30 for a dino dlc ngl

if it looks good

fr

especially in 4

[near fiber]

Which class y’all using on day one

[arctic grove]

Imma main sundance

[arctic grove]

the one that looks the coolest

[near fiber]

Lmao same

But I suck at sniping so imma try sniping

[arctic grove]

if they made the medic specialist look cool then more people would play it, but no it's like the most generic looking one

literally just a plain shirt

and pants

[arctic grove]

less people playing medic the better

lol

[arctic grove]

0 iq

no

medic is the backbone of teams

i hate medics

reviving everyone

if you care more about KD in conquest you are dumb

[lapis eagle]

I wonder if the ka-52 will work like a normal attack heli with pilot obviously piloting and second seater being designated gunner

I absolutely love the blackshark because pilot does everything but ka-52 is also very cool

[near fiber]

Being a medic is good and you get xp no matter what

Question do they have double xp in bf games ? Or is that only cod

[arctic grove]

Medic is the backbone of a winning team straight up

[arctic grove]

yes

[near fiber]

Oooooo nice

[arctic grove]

bf4, 1, and v had double xp

[near fiber]

Me who only had a few hours on bf4 on the PS3 back in 2014 unu

Tbh I wish I played it more

[arctic grove]

BF4 is more alive than ever tbh

now is a great time to pick it up on modern hardware

if you want

[near fiber]

True but imma save up for some more ps+ and bf4 with Pokémon Diamond remake for my switch

[slim quiver]

this

[near fiber]

I play on the ps6 I don’t have a pc anymore

Ps4*

Whoops my bad

Ah yes I am from the future it’s the year 2121 and gta 6 still ain’t out yet and battlefield 2042 killed cod

[boreal widget]

'sup my smelly brothers

[night vessel]

Police tuk tuk gang

[north raven]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-starving-feed-me-gif-12251780

[boreal widget]

[north raven]

[near fiber]

Am I cool yet

Even I have no idea what y’all talking about

[boreal widget]

maybe we will have a combat tuk tuk variant

like the tuk tuk boom boom from Just Cause

[near fiber]

A tuk tuk with a c4 in the tornado 😩👌

[boreal widget]

you are the mount lmg my brother

get up there

[near fiber]

We can use ducktape to hold him up there

[boreal widget]

why do I feel like they are gonna add in bicycles just for shit and giggles

[near fiber]

Cause it’s battlefield

[quiet willow]

thatd be great as long as you can launch them with c4

[near fiber]

They added a couch to drive in the hardline beta

[boreal widget]

lol

[quiet willow]

couldnt you drive that when it released too?

[brisk pendant]

Quick question: does anyone know, when the first beta will happen?

[azure crescent]

When can we play the beta?

[boreal widget]

ok another thing, you boys think we will be able to command some large scale vehicles say an aircraft carrier or a submarine?

[near fiber]

I’m not sure I only saw it in Vanoss video

[boreal widget]

or just a destroyer is a good enough

[azure crescent]

prob not

[boreal widget]

sth similar to behemoths in BF1

[azure crescent]

not expecting sea side maps but maybe it will happen

[boreal widget]

for such a large scale battlefield, would be a shame if we don't have some big stuff to accommodate it

[azure crescent]

the big stuff is 128 players

[boreal widget]

and we need even bigger vehicles

[azure crescent]

or more!

[hard breach]

I kinda wish I was able to create the 2042 cover art lens flare-ish effect for an image

it looks really pog

[azure crescent]

Well if they could do it you can!

there is probably so much stuff on the internet you can find out on how to do the lens flare

[desert ridge]

No we dont

[hard breach]

Only problem is I dont have a team of artists and a multi thousand dollar budget

[azure crescent]

We just need more

fancier vehicles

and more vehicles

[boreal widget]

@desert ridge ok...?

[azure crescent]

What would a big vehicle even be?

[boreal widget]

like I said, sea destroyers are pretty big

[hard breach]

y know those orange translucent lines on the cover art?

[azure crescent]

ye

[near fiber]

Is there a specific level I can send pictures ?

[hard breach]

I wish I could create such an effect

[boreal widget]

and they are practical in real combat so no doubt they can be a part of battlefield with such a large scale

[desert ridge]

Boost the server i think

[azure crescent]

those are pretty norm for a sea side war, we need BIGGER if you want bigger.

[boreal widget]

an aircraft carrier might be too big

[azure crescent]

air craft carrier might be near the sea for planes to go off of it for like the breakaway and manifest map.

[hard breach]

imagine some noob takes the aircraft carrier and crashes it in 5 mins

[boreal widget]

they would be good for a "titan" mode if it's gonna return

[hard breach]

if it is a vehicle and not a map prop

[desert ridge]

Yeah mate put a destroyer class military ship and an aircraft carrier on the tiny lake on the map kalaeidoscope

[boreal widget]

dude, it's not like they can't add a sea focus map

[desert ridge]

Yeah maybe in season 2 but season 1 its already confirmed to be no sea maps

[boreal widget]

for city map, they can have other big scale vehicles

[azure crescent]

I wanna see a glitch of an aircraft carrier just flipping out like the zepplin-nado in Battlefield 1

[azure crescent]

likkkee what

[boreal widget]

@desert ridge see? we are communicatung

[desert ridge]

Nah

[boreal widget]

@azure crescent maybe a B2 Spirit but they fly very high irl so idk if they would be balanced

[azure crescent]

Suez canal map? You could get boats and infantry at the same time

[hard breach]

well in bf1 a corpse of a sunk ship flew into the air a few times

[near fiber]

A sea map with a huge tsunami event

[hard breach]

like those beeg ships

[boreal widget]

@desert ridge

@near fiber yeah that's what I was thinking of also

maybe typhoon also

I was thinking maybe they would even have a map in Japan that would have volcano

[azure crescent]

I was thinking hurricane.

[near fiber]

I think the sunny map was in Korean

[azure crescent]

Godzilla easter egg?!?!

[near fiber]

Where it had the tornado

[boreal widget]

@azure crescent Ayyy... We are onto sth

@near fiber Yeah it was Kaleidoscope in Korea

it's a real location also iirc

someone post a picture of the city on twitter

[near fiber]

That idk

[azure crescent]

The Korean map is sunny and has green grass and tall structures and is called kaleidescope. I think.

[boreal widget]

yeah it is Kalei

[quick linden]

any idea on how many days you get on early beta access

[azure crescent]

Pre order the game

wait no

wrong question

[quick linden]

yeah i know that

[boreal widget]

maybe 2 weeks I suppose

maybe 3

[azure crescent]

probably a month

[boreal widget]

yeah a month would be the best

[azure crescent]

seems kinda rigged to only get a few weeks

[near fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield2042-2042-battlefield-battlefield-tornado-tornado-gif-21887629

[quick linden]

a month? i was expecting like 4 days at most

[boreal widget]

the game is massive, man

[near fiber]

Watching my bros getting sucked up

[boreal widget]

we are gonna need a lot of testing

[azure crescent]

[boreal widget]

@near fiber heh... sucked...

[near fiber]

Let us play the beta until the game comes out

[near fiber]

Heh you said sucked

[azure crescent]

that's how it works

[boreal widget]

on second thought, the AC130 we had in 4 was already pretty massive

it can make a comeback

[near fiber]

I’m from the future it will ;)

[boreal widget]

[worn whale]

BF3 AC-130 is SO OP

it can counter jets

[azure crescent]

Remember they said you could call in tanks? I think it would work the same way as in bf5 where you had the call in system. So now imagine you can call in A-10 warthog strikes?

[near fiber]

Btw how tf did a fish get a phone and discord 🤔 @boreal widget

[bleak nebula]

it's pretty weak

[near fiber]

Kinda sus

[worn whale]

like literally the only way you could've killed AC-130 in bf3 was either get in a heli and plant C4 and destroy, or ram a jeep on it

[boreal widget]

@near fiber Shhhhhh....

[azure crescent]

brrrrrt

[worn whale]

how was it weak?

[azure crescent]

because it had no muscles

[near fiber]

[boreal widget]

I think he mistook it for the 4 version but even in 4, it can be pretty devastating

[worn whale]

3X flares for each seat, AA guns on top of the plane, TANK busters on the left side

hell if you got a good team its literally un-kill-able

[night vessel]

not really OP it can be taken down by jets easy if you are a good jet piloit

[bleak nebula]

attack from below or behind, almost never got killed by ac 130 in jet

[worn whale]

you can't even get close to it with the AA guns shredding you

[near fiber]

What console ?

[azure crescent]

unless you kill it 😎

[near fiber]

You play on

[versed python]

Agreed.

[night vessel]

you are not meant to get close shoot from the far

[worn whale]

I tried coming from below, got a 105mm to the face lmao

[boreal widget]

the AC130 weakness is concentrate Jet attack, just like irl

[night vessel]

your 20mm do alot of damage if you burst fire

[boreal widget]

@near fiber I play on PC

[near fiber]

UnU

[night vessel]

without your guns being over heated

[worn whale]

are you talking about BF4 or BF3?

[night vessel]

both

[worn whale]

the BF4 one got nerfed

[bleak nebula]

fly low and far behind it and just strafe kill it, ez

[worn whale]

doesn't have AA guns

[azure crescent]

@azure crescent

[boreal widget]

you... just mention yourself

[azure crescent]

but what if you get shot?

then it isn't so EZ

[worn whale]

thats a good idea

gotta watch out from enemy jets though

since you're making yourself a slow moving target

[bleak nebula]

yeah, but it's like doing strafing runs on the ground anyway

[boreal widget]

a gunship should be vulnerable to other jets for balancing reason. It's virtually untouchable from ground infantry and vehicles

well a good AA can fuck it up tho

[fiery solar]

oh my god the MP40 is so satisfying to hipfire with

[bleak nebula]

gunship was always free kills and points for me as a jet player

[azure crescent]

The way you counter the Ac-130 in real life is probably how you do it in game.

[boreal widget]

@bleak nebula as it should be without good support

[bleak nebula]

exactly

[boreal widget]

an AC130 convoy irl would always have support jets and stuff

on its own, it's just a big ass flying target for jets

[worn whale]

if all 3 seats focus on a AA tank then its over

and ofc you got jets killing other jets

makes you feel protected lol

[boreal widget]

well yeah, the ac130 still have superiority over AA tanks

it's much more mobile

[slim quiver]

As im playing BF4 again i really dont understand what the devs fascination with sun being in peoples eyes in this game

[azure crescent]

lol

[boreal widget]

god ray sun

[bleak nebula]

lol

sun OP, please nerf

[slim quiver]

they were like "lol you know what would make graphics look good, the sun being in your eyes in every direction"

[worn whale]

yeah I hate the sun

[slim quiver]

why wouldnt the soldiers just have sunglasses on?

[boreal widget]

trust me, as a division player, having you attack a base with the sun on top of it is a death sentence

it's like having a flashbang on you 24/7

@slim quiver I'm surprised that more games haven't done it like in GTA Online where sunglasses would actually block sunlight in FPS mode

[arctic grove]

"We need more lens flare"

[azure crescent]

😎

[arctic grove]

"It's critical that you are visually impaired by the excellent lens flare"

[azure crescent]

Anyone have any future map ideas for the game?

[boreal widget]

volcano

lots of magma

[azure crescent]

lava

avavava

avav

a

[urban garden]

yes it's a good idea

[boreal widget]

earth smoothie

[slim quiver]

yeah its insane lmao

[azure crescent]

no more lens flare

[boreal widget]

if BF2042 central idea is catastrophe events, might as well include all of it

[arctic grove]

I hate when games add camera effects

like no I dont want motion blur, dof, lens flare, or film grain

fuck off

[azure crescent]

A map in san diego?

then you get earth quakes mid battle

[arctic grove]

that breaks the current lore of the game though

Im sure once the battle pass progresses they will probably have an invasion of america event or something

too many locations to pass up on

[boreal widget]

they have full creativity over the locations with current setting

they can have a map anywhere and it would make sense

[arctic grove]

well yeah if they made an explanation for it

[boreal widget]

definitely need a sea map for tsunami or typhoon

[plucky plaza]

Imagine tho

That could be cool

[arctic grove]

holy fuck I just realized im in a sweats server on bf4 rn lol

[slim quiver]

im so glad there wont be any movement glitching

[arctic grove]

only 10 v 10 and everyone is 100+

sweaty

[arctic grove]

yeah

hopefully

I hope they kept crouch running

[slim quiver]

yeah

im just glad the movement isnt floaty anymore

[arctic grove]

and I hope suppression isn't like BF4 where you go half blind and deaf from getting shot at by a tiny 9mm

[boreal widget]

lol yeah

[slim quiver]

like i actually cant play bf4 pretty much

[modern sequoia]

Will battlefield 6 be avalible with ea play

[slim quiver]

im too used to BF1 and V

the gunplay in 4 with the movement just doesnt feel right to me

[arctic grove]

I used to be the same way until I realized how much more content 4 had to offer

with better destruction and maps

[slim quiver]

theres no climb on my assault rifles its just me aiming down the sights and holding down the trigger at any range. I just cant get used to that

[plucky plaza]

Ive only played bf4 the past month

Very fun

[arctic grove]

same

[slim quiver]

i played bf4 years ago

but i thought id be able to get back into it but nah

[arctic grove]

I tried logging back onto BFV and I got randomly banned for no reason, so y'know, that's epic

[slim quiver]

too used to the new movement systems

[plucky plaza]

Bf4 is really crowded rn on pc coz of the amazon prime thing and coz ppl want to prepare for bf2042

[slim quiver]

i feel like bf3 will probably be better prep than 4

[arctic grove]

yeah

[slim quiver]

the movement is even more grounded it feels like in 3

4 has people literally leaping in the air and slither sliding all over the place

[arctic grove]

2042 looks like 4 with 5's gunplay, at least that's what my expectations are

and I am always ready for a horrible launch

as tradition

[slim quiver]

i want the movement to be grounded

i didnt realize just how fast you sprint in bf4

you are literally running at like 30+ mph

[arctic grove]

Besides the floaty bit I think 4 had good movement

I just don't like the people who legit dodge bullets

[slim quiver]

if it didnt have the vault cancelling the movement would have been good imo

[arctic grove]

yeah