battlefield-2042

[opal compass]

Germany has the most servers running

[somber nebula]

That someone else is gonna host

Makes no sense to not pay

[brittle canyon]

And less server

[opal compass]

[brittle canyon]

Something is wrong with my brain

[somber nebula]

Some eu players play on russian servers

[brittle canyon]

Battlefield V and battlefield 4
Which have more player ?

[frail sparrow]

They're both good player wise atm

[brittle canyon]

Cool

[frail sparrow]

Get the one you prefer ze setting of

[brittle canyon]

Im thinking about buying bf 5

[somber nebula]

Bf4 has become like bf5 lately since more players are coming

Like some conquest servers

[opal compass]

Bf4 is 8 years old, and still has a lot of players. I like that

[somber nebula]

It took some guy 21 deaths and his first kill was ruining my 21ks on zavod

With c4

[frail sparrow]

Bf4 went free on prime so had a but if a boost. Bfv is higher pop due newer etc and what people tend to install with ea play/game pass

[prime ember]

doe sbf5 still has players ?

[opal compass]

Sure

[prime ember]

more or less than bf4

[frail sparrow]

15k last time I checked, bf4 has 8k

[prime ember]

thanks

[frail sparrow]

And that was only steam numbers alone

[slim quiver]

is that how many people are currently on bf4

[arctic grove]

bro AUs is 3rd lol

Because steam?

[slim quiver]

wow BFV really does have more players than BF4 lol

[arctic grove]

probably because its newer?

and more people find "newer" more interesting than older?

[slim quiver]

Doesnt matter tho because people were here saying that BF4 had more yesterday

[hazy vector]

BF5 probably has more players because it's newer yeah

[slim quiver]

when I used the BFV is newer point, they just said "more people bought and like bf4"

[arctic grove]

its also timezones btw

[hazy vector]

BF4 is deffinitly still busy tho

[slim quiver]

timezones dont mean much considering even tho its 5 am in EST, USA still has the most players in BF4

[hazy vector]

even with a lot of filters (including not empty and no more tha 5 open spots) i get 100+ results

[arctic grove]

oh and rapid fairfight bans recently, like 1 per minute

[slim quiver]

BF4 has been free for about a month with twitch prime so

[hazy vector]

a lot of people might still have BF4 and are just comming back

[arctic grove]

bf4 is still going to be liked by people, bf5 and 1 removed things from bf4

helicopters

[slim quiver]

Yeah it did

[hazy vector]

like a whole era of war tech?

[slim quiver]

well yeah its a different setting

[arctic grove]

yea but they changed the settings when more people like war and military than campaigns and battles

bf4 had been alive for so long and because dice release like every 2-5 years

not sure tho

[slim quiver]

Thing is

[devout meadow]

Experiencing missing weapon during adjusting loadouts in cod mw and skins takes insane amounts of time to load makes Me worried about battlefield 2042 loadout menu Battlefield 2042 can offer, I hope for the best

[slim quiver]

Battlefields biggest problem is the community is way way way too divided when it comes to games

[raw relic]

Why can’t bc2 still be alive

[arctic grove]

people like using jets and modern guns and helicopters and more customisation than a downgrade and change of setting/theme

[slim quiver]

downgrade to theme is subjective tho

[arctic grove]

more people enjoy bf4 tho?

[raw relic]

Idk

[devout meadow]

Im also worried that in Battlefield V. the skins sometimes didnt appear as expected, i hope the dev somehow didnt let that happe in 2042

[slim quiver]

there are people that hate 3D spotting and hate how overbearing air vehicles can be etc. The reliance on gadgets, grenade launchers, more explosives on hand os sto;;something people feel

[arctic grove]

downgrade "and" change in theme

[hazy vector]

it's not to devided. it's just old era (BF2 and 1942 and the like) modern era like BF4 and bad company, and old era like BF1 and 5

oh, and console

[slim quiver]

if anything the recent BF games have only been upgrades

mainly mechanically and how the game actually plays and looks

which means more than the theme and setting since thats all subjective

[devout meadow]

I want to see better UI systems

[hazy vector]

graphics that people in the olden days turned down to minimal so they could spot your sniping ass in the grass that had then disapeared

[opal compass]

bf4db.com shows you the current online players

[lofty relic]

BF2 old era?

[slim quiver]

Yeah

[arctic grove]

air vehicles are already outmatched by lock-on and instakilling rocket launchers, 3d spotting was all about spotting, idk why people are mad.

[opal compass]

dunno. Bf1 for sure. Bf5... dont think so

[hazy vector]

wrong mention

[devout meadow]

bruh

[lofty relic]

I saw anyway

[raw relic]

Definitely more excited for this than I was for bf5

[lofty relic]

I thought you meant setting rather than how old the game is

[slim quiver]

Mainly because 3D spotting in BF4 rendered smokes useless

[hazy vector]

no, more like generation of battlefield

[lofty relic]

Yeah I get it now

[hazy vector]

although in the case of the recent generation it's also setting

[devout meadow]

Im a man of culture, I hear Battefield anthem, I pre order

[arctic grove]

people say bf4 is unrealistic, wherewas bf5 had a fucking anti-tank mine on a stick and only got launched a few feet away because it didnt kill you

[slim quiver]

people throw a smoke down, and then i just see doritos through the smoke and i hold down a button and they drop without me ever being seen

[hazy vector]

because the recent generation of BF1/5 and 4 has the setting split

[slim quiver]

All BF games are unrealistic

[raw relic]

Hopefully it’s not gonna be like hardline where the beta was better than the game

[arctic grove]

smoke was already useless

[hazy vector]

3d spotting didn't render it useless, flirs did

[short falcon]

mine on a stick was a thing

[devout meadow]

wait what? really?

[slim quiver]

smoke is useful in BFV tho

[brittle canyon]

Battlefield are chaos war

[slim quiver]

and it wasnt useless in BF1

[devout meadow]

Happy Medic Noises

[arctic grove]

a thing that wasnt used at all in ww1/2 because it was japans way of producing cheap guns before they lost

[raw relic]

Yea beta was better than launch and after

[arctic grove]

or won idk

[slim quiver]

BF4 it was literally useless because of how spotting worked

[lofty relic]

Dorito warfare is the most realistic experience

[slim quiver]

dorito spotting was one of BF4's biggest complaints

[lofty relic]

Also BF3

[slim quiver]

it seemed like we were shooting more people by aiming at a dorito than we saw them

[lofty relic]

For sure

[raw relic]

Does anyone remember 2142?

[arctic grove]

besides america didnt even invent it yet they can use it, they can even use german guns even though only germany produced them pretty much

[lofty relic]

Reminds me of this classic video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG3W7jNA8Zg

[slim quiver]

whereas bf1 and bfv you actually see the person you're shooting at

[opal compass]

if you are a good pilot, something like heat seeker wont get you

[lofty relic]

BF3 and BF4 spot on

[brittle canyon]

Bf 1: no complaint
Bf v: woman and holo sight
Bf 2042: specialist

[hazy vector]

unless you have a smart person shooting at you that waits untill you release flares

[slim quiver]

honestly BF games have never been realistic and its just a bunch of milsim players and hardcore shooter players that want battlefield to become a triple AAA military sim

[short falcon]

yeah. most of bfv wasn't used at all though. some of it not existing. some of it literally just being one drawing from a soldier in some trench

[pearl prairie]

Smoke Can use in Offensive and Defensive even Tactical Retreat

[arctic grove]

no? there are like 32 players and half have like rocket launchers, besides rpgs instakill

[slim quiver]

that shows you how big of a biased the BF community has lmao

[arctic grove]

lockons are garbage because they deal like 25 damage

[raw relic]

Have y’all heard about hell let loose

[opal compass]

just use cover to not get hit by it then

[pearl prairie]

Use Igla

[hazy vector]

hide behind what? a shrubbery?

[next onyx]

Lock ons are good long range alternatives

[slim quiver]

Yeah i played it

[opal compass]

if a pilot gets hit by an rpg, he is not good at all

[pearl prairie]

Use Igla For Dominate sky

[raw relic]

An actual kinda realistic shooter

[pearl prairie]

Use Fim-92 for Air defense

[spark acorn]

kaboom dead

[arctic grove]

its like if the netherlands got all of americas drones

[arctic grove]

and so is the lockonss?

[devout meadow]

I WANT TO SEE FLYING HORSES lol

[arctic grove]

yet you dont die from it instantly?

[pearl prairie]

yes They just out from Early Access

[next onyx]

To be fair. If you get hit by a dumbfire rocket it's just because you got too greedy and low

[raw relic]

They’re also adding it to consoles

Gonna be interesting

[short falcon]

or if you replaced an entire army with two norweigan women on skis

[arctic grove]

most helicopters do that? most of the birdies fly low to pick of small targets

[pearl prairie]

Didn't RPG and SMAW Op in CQB Area ?

[hazy vector]

or one methed up polish dude

[opal compass]

smart pilots use the ground or buildings as cover from lockons. if you are with a buddy in like the attack heli, just swap seats mid air. one has flares or the ir smoke thingy, the other has the flame extinguisher. if you get hit, just swap so the fire is out and escape

[raw relic]

Why did they add women in bf1

[brittle canyon]

There is woman in bf1 !?

[hazy vector]

because woman also fought in wars? and it's not real life

[arctic grove]

yo the battle story was fun but i didnt feel sad from her sister dying, it felt too weird and felt weird

[raw relic]

Yes

[raw relic]

Not in ww1

[pearl prairie]

Russian Empire Recruit Woman

[slim quiver]

yes they did lol

[short falcon]

yeah the campaigns were fun.

[lofty relic]

The Russian sniper in BF1 is a woman, that's pretty much it. Why does it matter?

[raw relic]

Idk

I was curious

[slim quiver]

why do people actually care about history in a Battlefield game

[raw relic]

Idk

[brittle canyon]

So every russian sniper is a woman ?

[hazy vector]

they didn't before BF1 and 5 came allong

[raw relic]

I just like to think deep into games sometimes

[slim quiver]

in that game yes

[lofty relic]

It's funny seeing people complain about how Specialists "doesn't allow me to project myself onto the soldier, I don't want to play as somebody else" and then at the same time they don't understand that female players have had endure decades of not being able to play as female soldiers

[slim quiver]

thats how you can tell their first BF game was 3 or 4

[arctic grove]

the last was better than the others literally, i love shooting other allied tanks in a god damn panzer, yet dice focust entirely about the allies which got me annoyed

[short falcon]

I just don't want specialists because i don't like the idea of being some stupid

named hero

I want to be a soldier

not Mr Pibb the epic cool hunterman

[hazy vector]

the only other historic game was 1942, vietnam, or the bad company 2 vietnam expansion

[brittle canyon]

Idk
Bcs is weird to see something that not supposed to be there make you feel uncomfortable and doesn't feel like you are in a real war ?

[slim quiver]

This is such a mood

[pearl prairie]

Pretend it just a Equipment Selection

[short falcon]

pretending doesn't change it

[brittle canyon]

Well it doesn't matter to me
I don't care about woman in bf

[raw relic]

Why are we talking about every battlefield besides 2042 in 2042 chat

[arctic grove]

bf vietnam had a good theme, and i really wanna find a copy because it looks cool

[pearl prairie]

What Choice Do we have?

[slim quiver]

You already dont feel like you're in a real war playing the games. Theres a million things other than women that shouldnt be there, why is it only women that make you feel uncomfortable

[raw relic]

We need another Vietnam game

[short falcon]

I cared about it in bfV because they openly said they were trying to rewrite history and that we were supposed to not buy it if we didn't agree

so i didnt

[lofty relic]

No, but that's how they chose to do it in BF1, which is no different than every other soldier class having a set appearance in each faction

[hazy vector]

they said that?

[arctic grove]

women werent even drafted at the fonmt lines except russia

[brittle canyon]

I feel normal but some ppl dont

[slim quiver]

They never said they were going to rewrite history lol, they just basically made it alternative history

[arctic grove]

they were either medics or not

[slim quiver]

But it doesnt really matter because its a video game

[pearl prairie]

Sniper they can be seen

[hazy vector]

if they were drafted, a lot were bullied untill they left

[arctic grove]

women were only medics behind the battlelines, only men were drafted in combat

russia allowed women to fight in oversized men cloths

[hazy vector]

"Though it would be years before many other countries allowed female soldiers, in Russia, Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia women did serve as combat troops. The best known of these soldiers was Maria Bochkareva, the founder of the Russian “Women's Battalion of Death.” The first woman to lead a Russian military unit, Bochkareva went as far as to petition the Czar for permission to enlist in the Imperial Russian army in 1914 and was granted permission to join."

[arctic grove]

even if it was a "video game" they shouldve sticked with history instead of ruining it

[lofty relic]

It's not a "video game" it's a video game

[arctic grove]

oh sorry did i make you mad?

[brittle canyon]

Combat medic

I see woman in hero of company 2

[lofty relic]

I feel bad for people who desperately need Battlefield games to be 100% historically accurate, then go on to focus on women being part of the game

[lofty relic]

Haha nah. It would be impossible for you to upset me, as I feel sorry for you

[next onyx]

Woman's battalion of death

[pearl prairie]

How about this Lyudmila Pavlichenko

WW2 Sniper

[hazy vector]

there's only been like 4 of them, and the 1942 was just a mess of trying everything in one game

[arctic grove]

i dont want them 100% accurate, they just made another game about ww2 instead of ww1 for what? history?

[hazy vector]

money

[next onyx]

Money makes the world go round

[hazy vector]

and just because they can add different weapons

[lofty relic]

You can't have much happiness in your life if it bothers you that women (or anyone) get to play as women in a game

[iron saddle]

History is too dark if you go in detail to make 100% accurate game

[lofty relic]

Huh?

[next onyx]

Its difficult to put everything into a game

[pearl prairie]

WW2 are more Iconic

[hazy vector]

yeah, lets not gave a game mode where you're fighting the zulu's for example

[slim quiver]

My biggest problem is just that, its the one thing that people say ruins history in video games, but the fact that equipment and gadgets and how the war was actually waged and fought is completely changed somehow does not ruin history

[brittle canyon]

Aw

[arctic grove]

no one asked for ww2 pretty much, we just wanted another game

[hazy vector]

afrrican mass murder wars are probaly not a good thing to make a game about

[pearl prairie]

Go read Real History that way to respected Them

[slim quiver]

They werent going to make another modern game

[next onyx]

Maaaybe

[arctic grove]

why add battle stories about history

[slim quiver]

they had just made hardline

[lofty relic]

DICE are also allowed to make games that they want to make. They hadn't done WW2 since BF1942, and they wanted to re-explore that setting and experiment with the gameplay

[slim quiver]

and then BF1

naturally they were going to do ww2 next

[next onyx]

Money on the side

It made massive sense to

[lofty relic]

I didn't ask for Hardline to be made, for me it was an Anti-BF. Did I complain, or did I just not buy it and movee on?

[pearl prairie]

and don't forget about "Just A Video games" it 1st purpose is Entertainment

[slim quiver]

BFV turned out to be a huge success gameplay wise and mechanically. The gunplay alone was just magical with how they finally stepped away from bloom and went into mastering weapon spray patterns

[brittle canyon]

I thought is a failure

[arctic grove]

hardline was just like bf1, different setting and timeline

[hazy vector]

i didn't like it either

[lofty relic]

Nah

[soft kayak]

I think the thing that bugs people about specialists, which they may not be expressing well, is that the specialist system is in direct contradiction to the narrative 2042 sets out. Where in previous games each face was a general representation of soldiers, only given names in bfv for the sake of letting you chose, specialists each represent a specific person in the 2042 world. In 2042, there is only one Sundance, only one Mackay, so more of them can take some people out of the experience. The easiest solution, that few people have brought up, is simply rewriting the lore. Instead of a specific character, have Mackay be a general representation of Canadian no-pats, and same with the rest.

[arctic grove]

how not, it was never like the previous games

[hazy vector]

i'm opposed to specialists because being able to yeet a grapplinghook is not specialist

[frozen adder]

hello,
i have a question, can we fly this high like the pilot did in the trailer doing rendezook or it's just a trailer?

[slim quiver]

the only thing i dont like about specialists in terms of narrative is if we are specialists being hired by governments then it makes more sense for me to make my own specialist in my own image

[lofty relic]

For one, it was made by DICE LA, not DICE. They had a completely different vision for the game

[pearl prairie]

Yes ? if you can do it

[arctic grove]

no info

[brittle canyon]

Like from star war battlefront 2 ?

[pearl prairie]

They might put Eject seat Back

[slim quiver]

like if im the specialist i should be able to create my specialist

[arctic grove]

Dice LA is just Dice

[lofty relic]

From what I've heard, you can fly high and instead of bumping into the sky, your plane will shut off its engines when you get too high

[soft kayak]

?

[lofty relic]

Incorrect

[arctic grove]

reminds me of far cry

[brittle canyon]

Nameless specialist > specialist with specific name and personality

[arctic grove]

well whats different, their look on bf?

[slim quiver]

But the problem with that is, they added rugged player customization in BFV and people still complained so I dont blame them for essentially doing something else

[brittle canyon]

Well battlefront 2 have some specialist that doesn't have name and just jetpack guy

[soft kayak]

Yeah, I do wish we could pick our face. I think part of the reason they did it is just so they can fit cosmetics onto a specific body, and so they can put a face to each season for advertising.

[arctic grove]

bf5s player customisation felt similar to cod ww2

[slim quiver]

yeah which was pretty good for its time

[soft kayak]

Oh yeah. Yeah, this is what Im talking about. Same applies to every bf game since 2

[slim quiver]

yeah probably

[arctic grove]

i liked cod ww2 because i got a skin for a icepick twice

[lofty relic]

If you've played Hardline you should know. DICE LA were making a smaller scale experience. They're good at what they do, they designed the Close Quarters DLC maps for BF3 which were superb

[hazy vector]

people want to play the sims when they're playing battlefield? why on earth would you want to spend time in a character creator

[slim quiver]

i just think what people complain about in BF games saying they want something removed, when it gets removed people say they suddenly want it back

[brittle canyon]

All we need is camo

[hazy vector]

they're not the same people tho

[slim quiver]

i mean i like customization

[lofty relic]

Which is why I have high hopes for their BF2042 content

[arctic grove]

so its just dice but close quarters

[hazy vector]

i want a working game, not customisation fluff

[slim quiver]

Not really, just camo is a very old basic customization trait

[lofty relic]

lol, it's a different team

[slim quiver]

Its battlefield, you already know the game will work lol

[soft kayak]

Regardless, with a simple rewrite they could make specialists about the same as seeing the same faces in previous games from an immersion perspective. Its not really the repeated faces themselves, but the context behind said faces thats the issue

[arctic grove]

camo was trashy, like it served no purpose

[hazy vector]

it does a bit, but very basic

[brittle canyon]

So you want aliens and dragon looking gun from cod mw warzone ?

[arctic grove]

i already know

[hazy vector]

like not wearing olive drab on snow

[slim quiver]

idk why people would be against customization when literally every shooter in 2021 even indie games have levels of customization because its a huge deal

[hazy vector]

because it's not

[slim quiver]

It wouldnt bother me in the slighest, i wouldnt personally buy it, but if someone else likes it, who cares

[hazy vector]

many people hit randomise 5 times and call it a day

[soft kayak]

halo infinite's customization looks insane. Didnt think theyd top halo reach

[arctic grove]

yet players wearing snow on snow didnt work, i can see players for a distance away even wearing camo for snow maps

[soft kayak]

there is value in preserving a games art style and tone

[lofty relic]

And many sit for hours, customizing

[hazy vector]

that's because of the dumb glow wasn't it?

[slim quiver]

How can people actually be upset over a skin that fantasy when we just watched a trailer where a man ejected out of a jet, shot a rocket at a moving jet and landed SAFELY back into the jet. Be reasonable, you cant just decide where you want realism and throw everything else out

[arctic grove]

no it was because they wore black on white still

[slim quiver]

yeah halo infinite customization looks greak

[soft kayak]

tf2, a game that's a literal cartoon, has managed to break its art style with cosmetics. Its not an issue of realism

[arctic grove]

he wouldnt even be able to fly it properly still since he EJECTED

[slim quiver]

Customization is one the largest selling points to any game franchise. It is a huge deal and the fact is, nobody is going to go back 9 years ago in the past to downgrade rewards and replay ability features for multiplayer games

Simple camo and simple weapon skins is a 2011 idea

[arctic grove]

tf2 was unrealistic but no one says it needed realism

[soft kayak]

im talking about team fortress

[arctic grove]

and ive played team fortress?

[hazy vector]

but did you play richochet, it's predesessor

[arctic grove]

210 hours

[slim quiver]

Battlefield is and will never be a military simulation. People need to get that image out of their head. They keep thinking BF is meant to be like a milsim game where all the customization is authentic military equipment and gadgets etc. Fact is that some people find the same themed customization boring. Im not saying its not okay to have it, im saying that customization is all about variety, in theme and in spectacle

[hazy vector]

BF is a sandbox, but i don't want it to become a fortnite meme

where everything is a joke

[slim quiver]

it will never be a fortnite meme

you dont see dancing in battlefield games

[soft kayak]

rookie numbers.
Regardless, its not about realism. The game has over the last decade destroyed much of its aesthetic through cosmetics. Realism is not and was never an issue. Its the destruction of a game's artistic integrity due to the need to make flashier and flashier cosmetics that is the real issue

[slim quiver]

having cool wacky skins does not make the game fortnite

[opal compass]

don't say that yet

[slim quiver]

Modern warfare and cold war are not fortnite memes and they have wacky skins

[soft kayak]

said in short: I dont dislike flashy cosmetics cause of "muh realism"
I dislike flashy cosmetics cause they make the game fucking ugly

[slim quiver]

I can see flashy skins being like gaudy

like i wouldnt want glowing skins

but i dont care what the decal is

[arctic grove]

im pretty sure all players looking at valve games did not get pissed over some unrealistic bs

[slim quiver]

if theres like barbed wire around the weapon or an anime girl on it, i dont care. I just dont want like glowing electrical lighting and stuff

[arctic grove]

and more people focuse that miliatry games should be realistic

[arctic grove]

phantom forces am i right?

anime sight

[slim quiver]

even Modern warfare has anime girl skins

[soft kayak]

it was a very slow process and a lot of the players do feel that the arty style of the game has gone to hell. However given the current state of the game its a very minor issue, and one that cant really be fixed.

[lofty relic]

Like 50% of the BF4 player base had anime emblems

[slim quiver]

people should only care about the gameplay and the mechanics, not if a person has an anime girl on their weapon. That is totally irrelevant and its just a subjective taste of a player who enjoys having those themed skins

[arctic grove]

i mean csgo had a bunch of glitches, sometimes guns didnt look right, sometimes building lead to nowhere or even dont even have a door to enter

[soft kayak]

Given that this is a world DICE wrote, they dont need to worry about realism. They can write lore to explain whatever they want. What they need to do is maintain the aesthetic of the 2042 world

[peak hill]

there are 2 sides of the coin
some like out of control animated art
and others like to stick to realistic

[slim quiver]

yes which is why having both is fine

[opal compass]

https://images.mein-mmo.de/medien/2020/09/cod-kawaii-pack-titel-01.jpg

those

....

[slim quiver]

advocating to having only anime skins is dumb and advocating for only realism is dumb

[opal compass]

i never want to see this kind of skins in a bf game

[hazy vector]

makes it look like a fucking joke of a game

[soft kayak]

csgo also hasnt broken art style. Its not a realistic art style but its at least consistent

[languid forge]

femboy battlefield skin when

[royal blaze]

I never felt any relistic about BF

[arctic grove]

that world probably exisst irl, some military guy or some gun guy would probably put anime all over

[slim quiver]

Oh yeah these skins are fine

[opal compass]

...

[hazy vector]

some people paint girls on planes. but nobody will see that when you're 15km in the sky

[soft kayak]

god thats just fucking ugly. I dont want to see that shit in my game

[royal blaze]

that's true

[slim quiver]

there are people that actually put anime skins on their guns IRL

[peak hill]

for me the problem lies into how its acquired

can you grind for it or is it paid? because all the good stuff is generally behind paid walls and its annoying cause I just wanna look cool without having to spend more than I already did for the base game.

[lofty relic]

my game

[royal blaze]

nobody care if u have a skin or not, it's bf

not CS GO

[opal compass]

y working for dice? or why its it "your" game

[slim quiver]

cosmetics will most likely be behind a battlepass and skin packs will be paid for

but yes cosmetics will be in a paid portion of the battlepass

[hazy vector]

isn't a skin a cosmetic?

[slim quiver]

as it should be. Thats where they make their money to provide the players with free weapons, maps and specialists

[royal blaze]

I think hes referring to his gameplay

[arctic grove]

this is kinda going towards the warzone side

[soft kayak]

I dislike it when a game I own becomes ugly

[opal compass]

well

[slim quiver]

it is, but thats just how a live service works

[hazy vector]

so it'll just be battlefront 2 messy. where you can grind. oooorrr pay 5 bucks for the look you want

[peak hill]

thats why I got ultimate since I know I should have enough to last me a while before I start looking for more

[slim quiver]

No

[arctic grove]

and fortnite, and probably apex

[slim quiver]

battlepasses wont be the same as a battlefront grind

[lofty relic]

I cringe every time someone says "my game". It's also naive to think that you own games like this these days

[soft kayak]

bold to assume theyre earnable and that theyre only $5

[slim quiver]

they wont make the battlepass impossible to complete without like 400 hours

[languid forge]

they should have some free cosmetics that you earn through leveling up like in bf4 and others that are paid only

[slim quiver]

nobody does that

[royal blaze]

technically speaking, they did buy the game......

[soft kayak]

"well technically you own a license"
I dont fucking care. I payed for a game and I dislike it when the game gets worse

[arctic grove]

hi

[slim quiver]

thats what it will most likely be like

[lofty relic]

I know they bought the game. I still think it's naive

[slim quiver]

the simplistic customization will be probably free and unlockable as you level

the cool skins and wacky skins will be paid for

as they require more work and will probably be put into a theme pack of some kind

weapon charms are also in BF2042 so thats a whole new cosmetic

[royal blaze]

think of this as ppl buying ikea funiture

[arctic grove]

Ikea furniture

[soft kayak]

vehicle skins as well. Not new but expanded and returning

[lofty relic]

I won't do that, no. Since it's not the same

[royal blaze]

there will always be complains all around

thats why we have custom servicew

[hazy vector]

plz no animu tanks

[arctic grove]

yes anime tanks

[lofty relic]

So people whining about petty stuff means it's the same? Confooz

[slim quiver]

im hoping for anime tanks

[arctic grove]

When is beta?

[lofty relic]

No confirmed date

[arctic grove]

Sadge

[soft kayak]

take a truck, paint it like optimus prime, boom. Easy $20 skin

[arctic grove]

i want hulk skin for tank

[royal blaze]

lollolol

[arctic grove]

I wont jebac pis skin for tanks

[royal blaze]

I will appreciate if they put a few titanfall skin in there

[arctic grove]

Who wont it too

[slim quiver]

the general manager of modern warfare, who was responsible for the battlepasses and live services now works for BF so we can probably expect the good skins

[royal blaze]

nice

[arctic grove]

[royal blaze]

someone probably would make an comparsion vid if bf have another anime skin lol

[still vault]

Whatever you do, just remember the important steps:

1. Complain
2. Make sure step 1 is complete.
3. Figure out how it really is.

[spark acorn]

Like a boss

[royal blaze]

lmao

[slim quiver]

any anime skin in bf2042 you can bet ill have my eyes on. Ill equip it just so nobody picks up my weapon

No emote spam pls

[soft kayak]

looking through the modern warfare skins: yeah most of those arent bad. They kept it mostly consistent. Im surprised
Cold war on the other hand looks like an artistic trainwreck.

[slim quiver]

some cold war skins are really good and others are bad

[arctic grove]

I'm hoping for skins that look pretty milsim

[slim quiver]

im sure they will have those too

as MW has them

[arctic grove]

Awesome

[slim quiver]

they should have a mixture of both military style and wacky style

[arctic grove]

I liked MW's skins before the ridiculous ones came in

[spice burrow]

Sometimes i forget cold war has a multiplayer

I only play zombies

[arctic grove]

Cold war's campaign was alright

[royal blaze]

same here

[languid forge]

same

[slim quiver]

it was too short imo but yea

[soft kayak]

Id rather they just keep it military style. Wacky style would be a real eye sore

[hazy vector]

people only seem to buy CoD 50/50 for the zombies now

[arctic grove]

never experience cold war, i bought warzone on xbox and thought it would be very good, proved me wrong

[languid forge]

the split screen on multiplayer still doesnt work, after all this time

[arctic grove]

wtf uses spiltscreen really, i dont like accidentally looking at the wrong screen

[arctic grove]

Ye same

Hope they keep it more towards the grounded military part

[hazy vector]

console players? how else do you do local multiplayer?

[arctic grove]

buy another one

[royal blaze]

well that depends, I didn't quite enjoy the warzone cuz it's filter is not really my type

[spice burrow]

When you sign up for a game set in the past you gotta stick to it or else people will get mad .with modern near future you can do whatever tf you want and no one will care

[lofty relic]

What does this even mean? lol

[royal blaze]

I like it's campaign tho

[arctic grove]

Then again I'm never gonna pay for those skins so eh

[hazy vector]

you're not going to buy another console for the 3 times a week a friend comes over to play

[arctic grove]

Whatever lol

[arctic grove]

i was playing terraria and kept looking at my friends screen and thinking that was mine

[arctic grove]

some people do

there arnt no one

[lofty relic]

Think he's too young to know what split screen fun is from our generation

[arctic grove]

I never played split screen

[soft kayak]

I dont care about realism. Wacky skins are just really ugly in a game with an otherwise militaristic art style.
Skyrim can do whatever it wants but you have to admit putting Ronald McDonald in a dungeon would look out of place

[arctic grove]

so your calling me a kid?

Didn't have the friends to do so

[hazy vector]

4 player split screen in a Wii is....special. because if you remember that was in Standard definition

[royal blaze]

nah, it's just a favor difference

[lofty relic]

Not in an insulting way. I'm just assuming you're younger than us and might not know what it was like back then

[arctic grove]

89i have played so many games on my xbox 360, i played so many split screen games on my wii

[hazy vector]

and he might just be one of those rich people who "just" buys another console

[languid forge]

just buy another $300 console you shouldnt have to expect a game feature that was promised work

smh

[spice burrow]

Split screen was so ass

[arctic grove]

i mean i didnt experienc the original xbox

[spice burrow]

"I swear im not looking at your screen!!!!"

Knows exactly where i am

[lofty relic]

Golden Eye split screen on N64

[spice burrow]

Damn u old

[arctic grove]

business

[lofty relic]

Pfft, I still consider myself young

[hazy vector]

flipside of that coin: "fuck that wasn't my screen"

[lofty relic]

Rob is 1 year older than me, like some kind of caveman

[hazy vector]

yeah i feel like i'll die any minute now

[lofty relic]

Classic

[arctic grove]

i wished i experienced that, my parents didnt own old tech really, i mean they had windows xp and i have some floppy disks/disks for the windows 95 so

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
EA Play Live time is an estimate.

[hazy vector]

30 is the end for me

[lofty relic]

I just want to live to see BF2042

[spice burrow]

Im 18 but i feel like a 90 year old man

[lofty relic]

For us it wasn't old tech, it was current haha. But I get what you mean

[hazy vector]

i used windows 95 for waaay to long

not quite old enough for the 3.1 days

[spice burrow]

I had a ps2 until the xbox one came out lol

[lofty relic]

Yeah I remember that feeling at 18. Looking back, 18 is just so young. I can imagine 35 year olds looking at me the same way

[spice burrow]

Didnt game until my parents got me bf5 for Christmas with an xbox

[random tendon]

bf5?

[mighty smelt]

I played with sticks and stones until the ps5 was released.

[arctic grove]

i mean i was gaming since black ops 1 and 2

[lofty relic]

That's quite recent

[spice burrow]

Do you not know that V means 5?

[hazy vector]

when you get out of college/ uni at like 23-22 and realise "wait, wtf happened to 25 years of my life. why am i stil lstressed, why do i still own nothing and why does the world hate me"

[languid forge]

you didnt even say bfv?

[random tendon]

i do

[lofty relic]

Haha yes pretty much

[spice burrow]

People actually say V?

[arctic grove]

roman numerals are just weird

[languid forge]

no?

[hazy vector]

they more so read V and say 5

[spice burrow]

Ive always said 5 lol

[hazy vector]

it's a subconcious thing

[arctic grove]

bfv confuses people, i prefer saying 5\

[lofty relic]

Not even DICE knows what to call that game. When it was rumored to be called Battlefield V I just said "no way that's true" and was proven wrong... sadly. Worst name for marketing ever

[spice burrow]

Still don't get why it wasn't called battlefield 2

Oh

Nevermind

Lol

[hazy vector]

because that exists?

[languid forge]

lol

[hazy vector]

they could've pulled a battlefront and called it that anyway

and then add a fucking timestamp to the old game

[arctic grove]

battlefield 1 didnt even have a roman numeral except 5

[hazy vector]

like call the first one battlefield 2(2004)

[lofty relic]

At least BF2042 makes sense, BF6 would've worked as well. For a while I thought they'd just reboot the series and call it "Battlefield"

[arctic grove]

i mean you can say "I" as 1 but still

[random tendon]

bit weird to have one game with roman numerals when the rest are numbered

[crude pecan]

We all know numbers go 1942, 2, 3, 4, 1, 5, 2042

[lofty relic]

Yeah the went weird with the naming after BF4

[hazy vector]

you forgot 2142

[arctic grove]

where does vietnam exist still

[hazy vector]

it doesn't

[crude pecan]

Vietnam is not a number 😉

[spice burrow]

No they go 1942, 2, 3, 4,HARDLINE, 1, 5, 2042

[crude pecan]

I can't even remember when 2142 was

[arctic grove]

vietnam has a v in it so i guess it can be a roman numeral

[random tendon]

that's cause it's in the future

[hazy vector]

it was after bf2

[arctic grove]

but bfv already exist

s

[languid forge]

there better be some cool easter eggs is 2042

[arctic grove]

not some stupid shark

[lofty relic]

If you're gonna include Hardline you might as well include all the other games like Battlefield Heroes, Bad Company 1/2 and BF1943

[random tendon]

who cares about 2042 where's battlefield 7 already

[crude pecan]

I feel like we're losing track of what numbers are

[spice burrow]

HEY i love that shark ;-;

[languid forge]

that shark gives good camo though

[lofty relic]

I was referring to the person who included Hardline

[arctic grove]

i loved hardline but people disagree, it felt fun because taser was op and c4ing vehicles was very common

oh and a random harpoon gun for some other reason

[random tendon]

is hardline the game where you raise those chickens on a farm

[lofty relic]

Yeah it was just different, not necessarily bad because of that

[spice burrow]

They should remaster hardline

[royal blaze]

yeah

[random tendon]

i loved that game

[spice burrow]

I wanna play it but old battlefield games feel slow

[lofty relic]

It was unclear to me why they chose to call it Battlefield Hardline, they could've made a new IP out of it

Like a Pay Day competitor

[royal blaze]

can't agree more

[proven torrent]

I still enjoy bf4 a lot.... much more than bfv

[arctic grove]

well its barely unplayable, and its not even older as it was made after 4

[random tendon]

Hardline still uses essential battlefield mechanics

[hazy vector]

i don't remember BF2 being that slow. but i also last played it a decade ago

[lofty relic]

I still think it was different enough to be its own thing

[arctic grove]

but like, the taser was a 1shot and free way to find everyone location

[rotund mortar]

Battlefield heroes will always live in my heart

[hazy vector]

pubg would've probably tried to sue them for the looks

[spice burrow]

Battlefield heros > 2042

[arctic grove]

literally a zeus from csgo but without the locations

[royal blaze]

I think one of relatively fast pace old BF would probably be 2142

[spark acorn]

[royal blaze]

luv that one

[arctic grove]

iu just searched it up and oh god, it looks 90% fortnite

wait

[hazy vector]

2142 was neat

[arctic grove]

i think i did play the older battlefields i think, i forgot

[hazy vector]

the community is still making maps for it

[slim quiver]

2142 is a hidden gem

[random tendon]

are you guys hyped for the cave update

[hazy vector]

it's not hidden, it's still alive

just not officially

[spice burrow]

Hell yea

[slim quiver]

its not officially alive tho

[arctic grove]

i think i played bf1942\

[slim quiver]

and not many people actually played 2142

[rotund mortar]

Cave update for battlefield let's go

[slim quiver]

remember the mass majority of the community showed up in BF3 and 4

[royal blaze]

I think 2142 was a hype the year it came out

[arctic grove]

bro i swear kids are getting shorter each year

[spark acorn]

Servers have been shutdown for ages now.

[random tendon]

operation locker but mining cave

[hazy vector]

the people maintaining 2142 now got tipped of there was a sirette gun scrapped in it, so they're toying with the idea of adding it back in

[royal blaze]

saddly times change

[hazy vector]

still alive via openspy

[arctic grove]

in hishschool the lowest grades look like primary school students

[slim quiver]

yeah theres unofficial servers

[spark acorn]

Still, only a dedicated amount of people would be playing that game.

[slim quiver]

theres still people playing 1942

[spark acorn]

And thats like a little amount of players.

[hazy vector]

about 60 that i know of on the revival project

[random tendon]

@CeoOfBattlefield

[arctic grove]

bf2142 is just battlefornt but in the military

even mechs included

the snow maps in bf4 are probably a dlc for 2142 players

[spice burrow]

2042 looks great but its being realesed at a horrible time

[slim quiver]

theres more players playing 1942 than BC2 and in fact theres more players daily on BF2 than there are on BF3 steam charts

[spice burrow]

No one has a new gen console

[hazy vector]

last time i checked 1942 had like 4 servers with players

[spark acorn]

Yeah it really fucking sucks, same with people who are buying GPUs as well for PC parts.

[royal blaze]

what time is it u guys got there? 6:06pm here

[slim quiver]

i was playing 1942 the other day and there was at least 400 people on

[arctic grove]

ps5 looks bad, xbox series x looks like a fridge and they actually made a april fools video about it as a minifridge

[random tendon]

damn you laggin

[spice burrow]

6:07 am

[slim quiver]

on the weekends its really big

[royal blaze]

lol it's fine

[hazy vector]

shove it in a shelf out of sight like most consoles lived and play without caring

[spark acorn]

Actual fridge.

[lofty relic]

12:07 here, time for lunch

[arctic grove]

8:08 rn

[royal blaze]

time for dinner rn lol

[rotund mortar]

We need a console that instead of heating up, actually cools down

[spice burrow]

Xbox on top rn with that new gamepass stuff plus you can buy a series s which is just a series x without a disk holder so its digital only for $300

[hazy vector]

isn't the GPU also weaker?

[arctic grove]

xbox are smort

[royal blaze]

anyone remember the KFC console?

[languid forge]

they are making a xbox mini fridge

[royal blaze]

lmao it's coming out

[arctic grove]

dont consoles have intergrated gpus?

[spice burrow]

Series s and x get 120 frames

[spark acorn]

For these consoles? No, they're great.

[hazy vector]

it's still a GPU eitehr way

[arctic grove]

bro i should use my xbox one s gpu for my windows xp

[arctic grove]

yes but its connected directly to the motherboard

[spice burrow]

My friend has a one x how do you think that will run 2042

[wraith needle]

They made a bad move releasing the game on ps4 and xbox one

[arctic grove]

it would probably still run

[spice burrow]

Not really cause no one would buy it lol

[arctic grove]

more for the ps4 seeing its weaker

[wraith needle]

Yeah prob not

[arctic grove]

xbox was already made for gaming entirely

[wraith needle]

Its going to run like black ops 3 on old gen

[spice burrow]

Bf4 came out when xbox one came out so it has a 360 port too

[wraith needle]

The map is going to feel empty too if there is only half of the players

[distant helm]

Mine wasnt that dusty still worth opening it its really silent now

[arctic grove]

xbox one brought in conpatable players for 360 games

[spice burrow]

Maps will be smaller for them

[wraith needle]

Are they still charging full price too?

[spice burrow]

What do you think

[distant helm]

We got ai to fill

So its all good

[hazy vector]

wasn't the xbone marketed as a set top box replacement. i recall something like that from an ancient E3

[wraith needle]

I dont think thats how its going to work, max players is 64 i believe

[tame narwhal]

Hey everyone

[arctic grove]

@tame narwhal stop

[distant helm]

128

[spice burrow]

Hopefully theie will be crossplay cause my friend might get a series x for Christmas

[wraith needle]

So there wont be 64 players and 64 bots

[distant helm]

64 old gen

[tame narwhal]

Just testing something my dude.

[arctic grove]

do it in your own server

[royal blaze]

and hopefully there would be an option to turn it off

[arctic grove]

it should be already off

[distant helm]

Yea dont think there will be alot of hackers

[arctic grove]

adn toggleable on

[distant helm]

Since the game is paid

[tame narwhal]

It gets deleted instantly anyways. Jack ass.

[spice burrow]

Crossplay is the thing all new games have

[distant helm]

Ok do it in your own server

[arctic grove]

jack ass?

[spice burrow]

Its a great selling point

[royal blaze]

only if u know wo_tm_call

lmao

[wraith needle]

You have to pay for cross play

[hazy vector]

it's a sign you expect to not be able to fill servers on the respective platforms

[wraith needle]

In standard you do not get cross play

[distant helm]

source

[wraith needle]

Hang on

[hazy vector]

you pay extra for cross generation

ie, you get it on PS4 first and get it for "free" on PS5 as well

[spice burrow]

So if you buy it on xbox one you get it free when you switch to series x

[royal blaze]

don't know how it works on xbox, ps for sure

[spice burrow]

Its the same shit

[arctic grove]

you should not get a ps5, xbox are made for games entirely

[spice burrow]

Or just get a pc if you can

[hazy vector]

and a PS5 isn't?

[spice burrow]

Worth it in the end

[slim quiver]

a ps5 is worth it if you are planning on waiting until 2022-2023

[royal blaze]

dude, but sPiDErMan🤣

[spice burrow]

More demands for ps5 than xbox

[slim quiver]

i got a ps5 last year and i also used it last year to beat demon souls. Theres really been no need for it since nothing has really come out

[spice burrow]

Thatll change i bet tho

[arctic grove]

spiderman is bad

[slim quiver]

yeah thats why i said 2022-2023

[tame narwhal]

Pc is still better race..

[distant helm]

Its good

[slim quiver]

if you're getting a ps5 you're basically waiting for its intended use

[arctic grove]

for what? slinging webs?

[slim quiver]

everyone knows the playstations are an exclusive machine now

[distant helm]

If you can get one*

[tribal wyvern]

do not get a ps5 yet guys

[distant helm]

You havent even played the game have u

[deep sable]

I wouldn't buy anything with the prices atm

[tribal wyvern]

stocks will be normal in summer 2022 and revisions of it are already being made

[royal blaze]

personal preference I suppose

[tribal wyvern]

wait it out, it's not worth buying atm

[royal blaze]

it's alright

[arctic grove]

because i dont like it?

[tribal wyvern]

don't call spiderman trash tho, i played it myself

[feral sleet]

Literally everyone is in here bruuh

[tribal wyvern]

oen of the best games ps has touched

[distant helm]

Not even gonna argue with u dawg

[royal blaze]

I shared the same feeling after doing it for several hrs

[tribal wyvern]

unfortunately the ps5 remaster ruined it and miles morales felt more like a standalone dlc than a sequel

[slim quiver]

yeah i got one like november 24th last year

[royal blaze]

it's a repetitive gameplay for SPider man

[tribal wyvern]

spider man is only good on ps4

[royal blaze]

still, it feels good playing it

[tribal wyvern]

the ps5 remaster's a copy paste but ruined peter's face

[arctic grove]

just buy pf4/3 if you wanted it good

[slim quiver]

i liked spiderman for the ps4, but i did not buy miles morales because the price isnt worth what you get

[feral sleet]

Spiderman isn't trash. But The Last of Us is better(Part 1, Part 2 is dogshit)

[tribal wyvern]

what is pf4 and pf3

[tribal wyvern]

i found part 2 to be great

[arctic grove]

ps4 and ps3

[tribal wyvern]

and some youtuebrs who trashed the game went back and foudn it a masterpiece too

but i mean opinions

[tribal wyvern]

spiderman's not on ps3

[arctic grove]

well make it then

[tribal wyvern]

and ps3 has discontinued basically everything

there's next to nothing on ps3 now

[slim quiver]

I really really hated TLOU2

[tribal wyvern]

every online service's been discontinued and every game's mp servers are slowly shutting down one by one

[arctic grove]

wait spiderman is on the ps3 im pretty sure

[royal blaze]

[tribal wyvern]

not the spiderman that's on ps4

[royal blaze]

yeah the old spiderman

[tribal wyvern]

that's for sure

the old spiderman's garbage

[royal blaze]

wait what

[slim quiver]

wym

[arctic grove]

spiderman 3

[slim quiver]

spiderman 2 was freaking amazing for the ps2

[royal blaze]

I like the old spider man lol

[tribal wyvern]

not the ps2 one

the ps3 one

[arctic grove]

and? more people like old games

[tribal wyvern]

the amazing spiderman ones

[royal blaze]

yeah still

[arctic grove]

Anyone has ordered the game ?

[royal blaze]

I

I hate the plot but swing feels fine to me

[arctic grove]

uh yea

[slim quiver]

yes

[arctic grove]

me too

[bleak nebula]

I wonder if bf2042 will have sbmm considering Dice tested something similar on bfv few months ago on breakthrough (hinting dice is looking into something similar to sbmm for bf2042?)

[royal blaze]

kinda wanna wait for three more months

[slim quiver]

it will not be SBMM the way it is known

[royal blaze]

to see how it goes

[arctic grove]

yo spiderman is kinda lame, like you literally fight crimeand thats it, besides the secondary missions werent even that good

[slim quiver]

SBMM is skilled based match making

Battlefield will have team balancing

not the same thing

[arctic grove]

team balancing exists in bf4 servers

[royal blaze]

I get it, it's repettitive fighting

[feral sleet]

What's SBMM though

[slim quiver]

SBMM is auto matmaking down to the invidiual player

[slim quiver]

yes

[bleak nebula]

no not that, few months ago they put people into other servers after one game depending on stats/skill

[royal blaze]

but it's so unique

[bleak nebula]

not like in bf4

[slim quiver]

but they mean like team balancing based off of skill

[royal blaze]

the fighting style

[bleak nebula]

in breakthrough

[arctic grove]

its not had bad as tf2 for sure

[feral sleet]

Why doesnt skill based matchmaking exist in BF4

[arctic grove]

as

[royal blaze]

that u could ignore the rest

[hazy vector]

because people manaually join servers?

[slim quiver]

i never heard of that, when did they do that? ive been playing bfv for months pretty regularly

[bleak nebula]

https://twitter.com/PartWelsh/status/1331641591333851138

from dice

[arctic grove]

doesnt that happen in some bf4 servers where it chooses your team on skill

[sour echo]

pro hype on battlefield 2042

[bleak nebula]

"If its in balance, the round continues onto the next map. If its not, we start mixing up teams, and in some cases, start moving squads and players out to other servers."

[feral sleet]

Yes

[royal blaze]

That never happened in battlefront tho lol, My ass got kicked so many times

[arctic grove]

battlefront?

[royal blaze]

yeah lmao

[arctic grove]

battlefront was the worst game pretty much, 90% are tryhards with god-tier weaponry

[royal blaze]

the 2 I meant

[arctic grove]

people spam special characters

[arctic grove]

im also talking about 2

[hazy vector]

which one, OG 2 or new 2

[royal blaze]

that's kinda gig about it I guess? since the micro tran is gone by now, and the modding communities is proliferating

[royal blaze]

the new 2, I like the OG 2 too

[slim quiver]

oh thats interesting

[bleak nebula]

it's like sbmm lite lmao

but at the end of the round

[slim quiver]

yeah i mean if they allow team switching

and also since they allow progression even killing bots

then idk how sbmm going to work

you could get like a massive K/D from killing bots

[royal blaze]

I kinda wonder how smart these bots can be

heard bout the little experiment Dice did with them

[cunning totem]

If they adjust bot difficulty according to your skill level, it should be fine

[bleak nebula]

I am not sure anymore, but wasn't team switching disabled in bfv

[hazy vector]

can't do that with 128 players

[cunning totem]

I was thinking bots are going to be like in coop only lobbies

[hazy vector]

you can't adjust like 15-20 bots on some random less payed gamemode to work with 108 real players

[arctic grove]

no

[hazy vector]

nah, they're supposed to fill up servers i think to always be 128 players

[cunning totem]

Ah shit

[hazy vector]

otherwise their hard work on the maps will look like a ghost town

[arctic grove]

imagine controllable bots like in csgo 😎

[royal blaze]

hahaha damn right

[azure stratus]

Do you guys think 2042 will have a ranked system?

[hazy vector]

ofcourse, how else would you unlock things

[arctic grove]

not known yet no info

[azure stratus]

Hopefully they do, i really want this to thrive and i feel like thats needed :/

[arctic grove]

it would probably be like bf4 or bf5

[hazy vector]

or like basically any bf game since bad company?

[arctic grove]

yea

[twin hemlock]

i can't believe that in the next game bots being smarter than humans is gonna be a fact

[hazy vector]

or no, even 2142 wher you unlocked things

[royal blaze]

I like ur profile pics, refreshing

[hazy vector]

bf2 also had unlocks, but it was like 2 guns per class

[azure stratus]

LMFAO ty

[twin hemlock]

All bf before 2042 : member of a squad don't stay together

2042 : all member of the squad stay together

thanks to bots

[arctic grove]

i belive havig both radio and surround voice chat options should exist

[azure stratus]

Hopefully battlefield will start to do better on twitch/youtube too

[arctic grove]

like ArmA

[twin hemlock]

lots of people don't use/have mic anyway so that's not the issue

[hazy vector]

i believe i will never turn on voice in any game and greatly dislike it if the squad would demand i did

[arctic grove]

im not saying its an issue, i just wished it was existing

[arctic grove]

i mean it should be used since yknow, maybe spotting wouldnt exist?

[royal blaze]

imagine how much fun it would if the surrounding is allow to be heard

[arctic grove]

theres little to no info on bf2042

[royal blaze]

with 128 players

on one huge piece of map

[twin hemlock]

too many strange people to turn mic in bf

[hazy vector]

yeah no, fuck voice

spotting is where it's at. just maybe not as shit where looking at someone will spot them

[arctic grove]

hmm, have you experienced Arma at all>

?

[twin hemlock]

hearing crazy people, kids is a nope for me

[twin hemlock]

BF is not a milsim so it's a different audience

[arctic grove]

im not talking about a milsim stfu

[hazy vector]

i'm still used to having to press Q to radio in a spot, so i don't even know if it auto spots

[royal blaze]

kid buy bf nowadays? oh I forgot, EA play

[hazy vector]

several people in here are between 13 and 16

[twin hemlock]

You see, you're insulting that's why i don't want mic on

[arctic grove]

there is a targetor in bf4 which autospots but if not use q

[hazy vector]

and then you also don't need a mic

[royal blaze]

oh my perception to kids are usually those in primary school lmao

[arctic grove]

do i look like i care about different genres?

[hazy vector]

don't primairy schools go to grade 8-9 in some places. which is age 15 or so?

[opal compass]

btw, spotting looks almost like bf4 :>

[arctic grove]

not for me

[arctic grove]

not even out but ok

[opal compass]

you can see it in the trailer for a second

[royal blaze]

13 ~ 16 sounds like a age for gaming anyway, their problem if they can't control themselves which technically speaking they should be already

[arctic grove]

a second

[royal blaze]

I went into console gaming around that age

[hazy vector]

xbox kids

[royal blaze]

didn't swear like a honkey all the time backthen

[hazy vector]

the ones that started (or popularised) the screaming during cod matched memes

mixed up with "mom go away, no one more match"

[arctic grove]

black ops 2 am i right

[hazy vector]

no idea, never played cod

black ops 2 is to new

[royal blaze]

god, prob they have adhd or smth shit🤣

[arctic grove]

bro you have never

playes

[hazy vector]

i remember it before black ops even existed

[arctic grove]

a single cod game

[hazy vector]

like the first one

that's the newest i played, 1 and 2

[arctic grove]

wtf

[hazy vector]

why the fuck would i play cod if i play battlefield

[arctic grove]

cod is more

[hazy vector]

i'm not gonna play cod if my life is already Battlefield 2

[arctic grove]

close combat than bf?

[hazy vector]

and?

[arctic grove]

and?

[hazy vector]

jets don't work in close combat

[arctic grove]

it has a series of not idiotic numbering like battlefield

[hazy vector]

oh no numbers, so scary

[royal blaze]

speaking of close combats

I dig the one they did on tf2

[hazy vector]

titanfall or team fortress?

[arctic grove]

you would rather have dice star from bf4 to bf 1 and then bv

[arctic grove]

team fortress

[royal blaze]

titanfall of course

[arctic grove]

i think

bruh my discord keeps freezing

[hazy vector]

yeah that's the issue with the TF acronym

same for AC

could be assassins creed or ace combat, or several others

[arctic grove]

we all can agree that acronyms are not good for talking about a single game

[spark acorn]

Yep.

[royal blaze]

but I m talking about close combats man, how team fortress gonna relate lol🤣

[hazy vector]

and considering battlefield never was good with numbers and also not chronological. it doesn't matter

[arctic grove]

i mean team fortress and tf2 had similar sizes

not large but not small

[spark acorn]

no

[arctic grove]

why no?

[arctic grove]

yea

[royal blaze]

anyway, back to topic. how do u guys feel about the close combats in Titanfall2

[spark acorn]

shit

[arctic grove]

i mean they were good with great movement mechanics

[next onyx]

1942, Vietnam, bf2, 2142, bad co 1, 2. Bf3, 4, h 1, v and 2042

[arctic grove]

cod kinda took some i think or am i just thinking about another game

[slim quiver]

the one thing i kinda dont like

[arctic grove]

literally the creaters of doom in a nutshell

[slim quiver]

is that executions in BF2042 arent first person

theyre like the third person executions from cod

[hazy vector]

heroes and play4free are also in there somewhere, but play4free was just bf2

[spark acorn]

correct

[next onyx]

I hope they reconsider how they're approaching takedowns

[slim quiver]

Exactly

[hazy vector]

didn't we see only one execution done by someone else

[next onyx]

They've always been cool as hell

[slim quiver]

Takedowns have always been good in BF

[opal compass]

i hope i can do a race with the buggy on hourglass

[arctic grove]

honestly bf4s were the same animation with lack of difference

[next onyx]

If it takes a couple patches to iron the first person animations then that's fine

[arctic grove]

bf1 had like a couple of animations

[slim quiver]

BF1 had very good melee animations

[hazy vector]

BF2142 had no animation that i recall. you just stabbed people and got their dogtag

[slim quiver]

Yeah but that’s old BF

[hazy vector]

BF2 had no dogtags i think

[arctic grove]

bf5 kinda copied bf1's animations

[next onyx]

3, 4 and h have the most animations

[slim quiver]

Take downs weren’t a thing until like 3,4

[hazy vector]

so a recent addition

[slim quiver]

Yeah kinda

I mean 10 years is more like halfway through BF series

[next onyx]

My favourite from hardline is when you're on their right so you just take them straight to the ground

[slim quiver]

It’s not super old but it’s fairly old

[next onyx]

The head stab is noticeable too

[arctic grove]

not sure about 4

did 4 have different animations other than the directional ones?

[arctic grove]

yeh that was whati also likes about bfh

[next onyx]

In 4 there's a different animation for every stance

[royal blaze]

when do u guys think 2042 started on developing

[arctic grove]

a year ago maybe?\

[hazy vector]

probably when development for 4 fully stopped

[royal blaze]

but pre-alpha footage looks like they did that in 2019?

[hazy vector]

but considering we're getting pre-alpha footage currently, BF5 took up most of their time

it's why i'm worried that EA is rushing them to make something

[arctic grove]

i mean those were just cgi really, not really actual content for some parts

[hazy vector]

which is why the "exiting" things are some weather effects, bigger maps and some specialists

[arctic grove]

the only real one are when your in first person

[royal blaze]

considering ea is pulling not dice, but a few other studio together on 2042

[spark acorn]

a total of 5 studios I think

[royal blaze]

I would say they might don't a issue with rushing

[hazy vector]

DICE LA isn't even dice, it's a different dev house renamed to DICE LA

[royal blaze]

beside, the pre-alpha was from 2019

[arctic grove]

dide the original dice die?

[hazy vector]

no still there afaik

[royal blaze]

they prob started alongside the bfv devlopment

[hazy vector]

but we don't know what the load distribution is between the studios

and how much EA is demanding to do to their bidding

[slim quiver]

There’s a lot of studios on BF for a reason

[hazy vector]

crunch?

[slim quiver]

They have a lot of people on post launch content

Nah

They’ve been ahead of development

The thing is they probably want to keep a healthy amount of post content

They plan for 4 seasons of battlepass stuff as well

So that’s every 3 months

[silent jungle]

Have they confirmed if it will have crossplay?

[bleak flare]

No

[hazy vector]

they have not

[slim quiver]

No

[spark acorn]

No confirmation yet, wait for info at EA Play Live 22nd of July.

[hazy vector]

cross generation yes (so between PS4 and PS5 for example), cross platform no

[silent jungle]

U think it will have crossplay?

[spark acorn]

Yes definitely.

[slim quiver]

I hope they do it but only keep crossplay between new gen and Pc and then old gen between eachother

[spark acorn]

Yeah, like this.

[hazy vector]

i hope is a toggle you can enforce

[jagged gulch]

I think pc should go against pc and Xbox can play with PlayStation

[arctic grove]

can someone ping this that crossplay isnt shown to exist yet

[slim quiver]

Crossplay options are always there

[opal compass]

Now in english

[arctic grove]

pin

[hazy vector]

that is english

[slim quiver]

Honestly if we pinned that there would be like a bunch

[silent jungle]

Nah I hope they do everyone can play together expect maybe the old gen

[arctic grove]

there are always people who talk about crossplay like why, no one has said it would exist

[hazy vector]

because they expect it these days

[arctic grove]

the devs hasnt said anything

[hazy vector]

because all games have to be the same apparently

which is fucking annoying

[arctic grove]

probably because these people probablycome from cod

[hazy vector]

"but [x] has it to!" good for them!

[silent jungle]

Why would u not want crossplay?

[slim quiver]

Cod took a lot of things as well

[arctic grove]

because it would be beneficial not to include it?

you dont want xbox to deal with pc players

[hazy vector]

or just aim assisted players in general

[arctic grove]

and that takes no skill to

[tender dove]

!when

[azure lodge]

Battlefield 2042 Reveal Trailer: https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E
Battlefield 2042 Gameplay Trailer: https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss
EA Play Live time is an estimate.

[hazy vector]

it's always funny to see games that got ported to PC and that still have the aim assist either enabled or as a setting you can adjust

[slim quiver]

Crossplay just makes it so that the player base survives forever

If it dies on one medium it still stays standing

[hazy vector]

BF4 isn't crossplay, and it's alive 🤷‍♂️

[slim quiver]

That’s one example

And that’s also because bf4 has a following that only likes modern BF games

[arctic grove]

so all of these people preordering this game dont fill up a single server and keep it alive

[slim quiver]

So they skipped 1 and 5

[random tendon]

1 month til news on battlefield???

[slim quiver]

1. I mean in the future 2. Remember those pre orders can be cancelled

[arctic grove]

pre orders can be refunded or cancelled, what happens after its out?

[slim quiver]

Crossplay isn’t necessarily needed day 1. It’s just needed for the future

[random tendon]

how much does it cost to preorder bf2042

[hazy vector]

it gets played and then the next best thing comes allong in a year or two

[arctic grove]

there are going to be a bunch of people buying and playing 2042 because its new and it has a tornado

[hazy vector]

it's not needed in the future, some games just die

[slim quiver]

BF won’t have another hame in 1-2 years

[arctic grove]

yea, it should be included after