battlefield-2042

[mellow rover]

A BF2 remaster or remake would be also pretty fucking cool if they ever do it.

[void carbon]

maybe like in Hunt showdown?

[simple linden]

just because they earned more than spent, it doesnt mean a certain game is profitable or not

[valid onyx]

Grenade launcher only servers

[spark acorn]

Yes, like Hunt Showdown.

[soft kayak]

yup. Really hope they return. Flamethrowers, AMRs, auto shotguns, grenade launchers

[spark acorn]

But from iirc from Jackfrags recent BF2042 videos, it'll be like Escape from Tarkov.

[simple linden]

EA had the money to continue bf5 support, but the game itself wasnt generating enough income to warrant that support

[void carbon]

ah yes M82 goes brrrrr

[wheat yew]

Yeah that's literally what it means. EA made $4.8bn in 2017 and spent about $3.8bn.

[dusk bronze]

something else but not BR

[simple linden]

you gotta look at it from game to game basis

[soft kayak]

the rail gun

[wheat yew]

Yeah because EA is greedy, lmao. They don't NEED monetisation. They WANT it.

[void carbon]

Don't have Last Stand DLC :<

[gray sequoia]

EA is still not as bad as Rockstar tho

[valid onyx]

Rockstar is horrible

[simple linden]

but why is that surprising, every company looks to have a profit

[mellow rover]

Tru dat

[valid onyx]

Especially with Red Dead Online

[wheat yew]

I'm not saying it's surprising at all

[void carbon]

Rockstar is milking that GTA V hard, to the point of RDonline dying

[soft kayak]

bfv was an unsalvageable disaster

[valid onyx]

Nobody even knows about it cause of a content drought

[spark acorn]

Rockstar doesn't have a bad rep lik EA though, so yeh.

[simple linden]

and as a good and successful company, you will find ways to earn profit

[grand kelp]

So, lose all gears upon death?

[spark acorn]

Probably.

[valid onyx]

And they are still holding onto a dumb 2013 game that can barely handle a lobby of 30 people

[wheat yew]

I'm just saying that BF2042 could very easily be completely without any microtransactions and it would not put EA in the red

[grand kelp]

That sounds fun as heck

[kind thicket]

their rep isnt great but their single player is top notch

i dont strust R* with multiplayer

[simple linden]

it woudlnt put EA, but you need to look at it from project to project

[soft kayak]

yeah but theyre not gonna give up all that money from suckers who think a single asset is worth 1/3 of the game

[simple linden]

if 2042 isnt generating income, then support for 2042 stops

[wheat yew]

Absolutely

[mellow rover]

Max payne series was insane..

[kind thicket]

ea and rockstar both have a knack for milking franchises

[mellow rover]

One of the best

[kind thicket]

max payne was years ago

excellent series

[void carbon]

Well EA got roasted in BFV and Battlefront so i dont think they will make same mistakes

[simple linden]

its just smart business decision

[soft kayak]

it amazes me that people think skins are worth the money. "well in the other game theyre just as expensive"
As if theyre not all overpriced garbage

[kind thicket]

ea will find ways to make new mistakes

[mellow rover]

hopefully, seems they listened and there is good stuff coming

[wheat yew]

Yes, I know, we already established that the second EA reckons they can't milk more money off a product, is the second that they pull a plug on it.

[kind thicket]

rocket league 25$ skins lmao

[spark acorn]

Yes, they should have learned their mistakes by now... well DICE actually not EA.

[simple linden]

bf5 didnt generate enough income with their trash skins, hence why support stopped

[gray sequoia]

I heard all new maps that will be added to 2042 will be free and the only micro transactions will be the battle pass

[kind thicket]

i bought the game for 15

[dusk bronze]

he thinks

[void carbon]

well if u can sell it later to someone and they became legacy content pixels, they're indeed worth smth

[simple linden]

but thats what every company does, not just EA

[soft kayak]

theyre probably gonna have expensive skins

[simple linden]

every company looks at profit first

[spark acorn]

still, hazard zone will probably not be a true BR, but have some BR elements in it.

[grand kelp]

Well, how long till they’re gonna say the pre-order sales?

[mellow rover]

I

[wheat yew]

But I never said it's just EA. But EA is 100% one of the pioneers of microtransactions.

[mellow rover]

I will pay for content not skins

[dusk bronze]

yep

[old egret]

Hell yeah no premium pass well for maps atleast

[void carbon]

i believe till day before release

[simple linden]

and that was a smart business decision

[void carbon]

and guns 2 i hope

[simple linden]

it earned them billions

[wheat yew]

Honestly I wonder why that wasn't the policy with BF3/4/1 Premium, I guess they just didn't think of how that splits the fanbase

[old egret]

Yeah hope for good snipers

[pliant mauve]

kaiz plating btf4😏

[simple linden]

from a business perspective, you need to give EA some props

[void carbon]

im actually frightened of ammount of RPG's flying around since anyone can equip them :<

[old egret]

Yeah it kinda did split it up

[grand kelp]

I just like skins with any half mask or gas mask

[simple linden]

however, they did some predatory business decisions in the past

[wheat yew]

My biggest issue is that if there is 1 cosmetic that is SUPER MEGA COOL, everyone will be running it

[grand kelp]

Premium pass was the norm back in the day, I think

[old egret]

Same I buyed the burnt pack in BFV

[wheat yew]

Yeah what I meant is, why did Premium pass include restricted map access

[arctic grove]

What if frostbite married cod 😳

[polar cradle]

super mega cool

[mighty holly]

What is cod’s engine called again

[void carbon]

I really think that balance may be broken by peps using rpgs on people not vehicles

[simple linden]

premium pass was just a different way to monetize the game and give them monetary support to release new content

[simple linden]

IW

[old egret]

BF4 premium pass was the worst

[arctic grove]

Treyarch and infinity ward and sledgehammer

[void carbon]

CoD IW smth from 2019

[grand kelp]

IW Engine

[wheat yew]

The longer the game goes on, the more likely we'll see a lot of fanservice/desparation to get more money, and I'm sure that one day there'll be a skin that becomes a fan favourite to the point that everyone and their mother is running it

Like everyone's a Japanese chick in Battlefield V

[mighty holly]

a

[simple linden]

but premium pass had a side effect of splitting the playerbase

[void carbon]

U dont even know how wrong u are my friend

[gray sequoia]

EA used to be the worst about micro transactions but have luckilly actually listened to the people who play their games and have been doing much better

[spark acorn]

sounds crazy, hope its like that

[arctic grove]

I want bf2042 single player

[void carbon]

okay cya around, im goin 2 sleep o7 gn lads

[old egret]

Yeah and I'm not ashamed

🤣 🤣

[wheat yew]

Sounds kinda cool, like a mixture of CoD Headquarters mode and Conquest

[simple linden]

the battle pass system is much more consumer friendly

it doesnt split the playerbase, and it gives them secondary income to support the game

[grand kelp]

What would the objective be on Hazard Zone if it’s like Tarkov?

[spark acorn]

Yeah, sounds about right. They don't wanna go that BR trend, since their Firestorm sucks.

[dusk bronze]

will be battlepass with free skins and premium

[grand kelp]

Premium is only cosmetic, everything gameplay wise is free

[arctic grove]

[wheat yew]

Yeah but the notion that "if you don't play every day, or play regularly, you're going to miss out on things you won't have access to when you get back", definitely sucks

[livid falcon]

ready for that premium queue

[old egret]

All I wish for of this game is AMAZING SNIPERS

[dusk bronze]

💩

[wheat yew]

Like

[arctic grove]

[spark acorn]

yeah true

[wheat yew]

People get burnt out with games, I get burnt out with games all the time

[livid falcon]

that do full damage in normal mode

[wheat yew]

I play a game religiously for a few months and then get sick of it, take a break, and return to it after a few months

[old egret]

Body shot 100% damage yeah I hope

[old egret]

Atleast in the chest

[wheat yew]

So the idea that during my absence I'm gonna miss out on gear that I think it's cool, and won't have access to it later (without shilling out real monies), really really sucks

[arctic grove]

Armour plates like warzone hm

[simple linden]

well we dont know how the progression will work

[soft kayak]

^^^
Halo has the right idea

no.

[wheat yew]

That's not healthy

[simple linden]

if you buy a battle pass

will it stay forever or not

[dusk bronze]

will be with bots😂

[soft kayak]

playing bf is not a chore its a way to unwind.

[simple linden]

halo infinite will go with that approach

[keen jay]

i sure hope high rpm guns can outgun everything

[wheat yew]

I'm glad you're proud of doing something unhealthy, but that's not a norm

[grand kelp]

I mean, even after the season ended, you can still get the weapons

[soft kayak]

^^^^
No excuses anymore

[simple linden]

the battle pass stays with you forever, so you arent pressured to play every day

[gray sequoia]

after work i always get on BF4 and just need to kill shit

[old egret]

Omg your pfp i love that game

[gray sequoia]

great stress reliever

[soft kayak]

the issue is that there is 0 reason for EA to make this a choice. Just let me earn my shit later

[simple linden]

haha, yea, i loved crysis 2

[wheat yew]

Yeah of course, the 'core' stuff like weapons and gadgets probably will always be available, but the idea that I bought a full-price game, and then there are things in that game unavailable to me because I wasn't there at the right time, seems really sucky to me

[old egret]

Probably best game in that year

[soft kayak]

Im not spending money on a bunch of crap I may not even earn on time

[simple linden]

we dont know if thats gonna be the case

[simple linden]

loved playing c2 mp, my favorite mp of all time

[arctic grove]

bf4 camouflage skins are garbo and unneeded

[soft kayak]

Halo isnt

Halo lets you keep your pass

[wheat yew]

I mean I've worked a summer job in 2018 and 2019 and for three months I've had barely any internet connection and no access to my PC (or any consoles)

[soft kayak]

forever

[old egret]

Yeah better than most cod games

[simple linden]

infinite will let you own it forever, and unlock shit at your own pace

[soft kayak]

and you can buy a halo battle pass after the season ends

[simple linden]

it really annoys me that it gets compared to cod, and its nothing like cod

[arctic grove]

I have a subscription on ea desktop but not steam, ea are dumb enough to not link subscriptions

[grand kelp]

And choose what season you want to progress on

[soft kayak]

It means they have no excuse.

[arctic grove]

I dont even get 10% off on steam because of it

[wheat yew]

So again, when I paid a full price for a video game, I think that it's kinda scummy for the game to go around and say "you must play me regularly, and you must be here at the right time, or I will make certain content unavailable to you"

[old egret]

Nah I'm just saying its better than it and yes its nothing like cod

[dusk bronze]

Dice La working on other secret mode

[simple linden]

ye, but just saying, those who never played, dont know its different than cod gameplay wise

[arctic grove]

You mean redacted?

[old egret]

Yeah

[soft kayak]

i dont care

[old egret]

Well I gtg guys have a good one

[dusk bronze]

yep

[wheat yew]

Goodnight Bee

[old egret]

Gn

[simple linden]

the only similarity are the kill streaks and perks, nothing else, cod didnt even have verticality in their gameplay until advanced warfare and that released in 2014

[arctic grove]

Add more anti air/tank weapons to counter players using tanks 24/7

[simple linden]

see ya

[wheat yew]

Yeah, absolutely. It's devilish. Good old EA.

[dusk bronze]

EA care only money

[simple linden]

i hope 2042 goes for the same approach as infinite

[wheat yew]

Correct

[simple linden]

which lets you earn shit in the battle pass even if it "expired"

[wheat yew]

Sounds pretty good.

[simple linden]

its hardly a surprise that EA cares about money

not the first and certainly not the last company thats gonna have money at #1 spot

[dusk bronze]

EA said battlepasss include only cosmetic, but I dont believe it

[arctic grove]

battlepacks are really annoying, cant they get new tiers and looks?

[wheat yew]

Water is wet, grass is green

[soft kayak]

How many people do you think are still buying these things? Most people arent completing them, theyre just not dedicated to the game enough, so why buy them in the first place? I dont think Halo did it purely out of good faith. Letting them last forever, and more importantly letting people buy them after the season, may make them more money

[simple linden]

probably

[arctic grove]

i mean fortnite has used battlepasses for many things that are bad, who need graffiti or skins?

[simple linden]

but at least i wont be pressured to play it on a daily basis for 6 hours

[soft kayak]

not related to my comment at all

[fresh river]

So will we see a BF 2042 Showdown (Europe vs. US)?

[wheat yew]

Again, you're implying that grinding should be the only way to get gear

[soft kayak]

I may want one of those items but think "eh, im never gonna get that far in the pass on time" and skip the offer entirely

[arctic grove]

Can grenade launchers actually kill infantry, i mean it tanks so many shots to lill one

[tribal ruin]

bf 2042 is so unrealistic, america's gdp is like 20x of Russias

[grand kelp]

Oh, I would love to see that again. It was amazing on BF 4

[simple linden]

its gonna be only cosmetics, otherwise thats gonna be a huge PR disaster

[arctic grove]

Its the f u t u r e

[fresh river]

I'm watching the BF4 one right now.

[gray sequoia]

I think the battlepass will be cosmetic only but there is a chance they might put in new "operators" into the battlepass

[tribal ruin]

russia is a shit country, china is a bigger and REALISTIC threat

[fresh river]

From 2013.

[soft kayak]

yes but Russia is populated by Russians so its an even match

[simple linden]

its an alternate universe

far all we know, north korea can be the most fearsome country

[soft kayak]

But I try to be as okay with the system I have to play with.
Sounds like conformity

[simple linden]

it makes zero sense to compare our world to an alternate world in 2042

[wheat yew]

Grinding isn't fun, generally speaking. That's why it's called grinding. Do you really not see that there are more options than just "grind" or "microtransactions"?

[arctic grove]

Russia is more if a threat than china, usa and russia both are the largest weapon filled counties, look at nukes and missiles for example

[gray sequoia]

as a Russian, i can tell you and my family in Russia can tell you that "Russians don't give no fucks"

[dusk bronze]

selling premium specslists😂

[arctic grove]

Bf4 had china as an enemy btw

[simple linden]

there wont be premium specialists

[rich agate]

I think Hotwired should have be in this game, I loved that

[tribal ruin]

u must be stupid if u dotn think china is the main threat of the usa rn

[arctic grove]

Yet they ruined BfH playability?

[soft kayak]

smells like a bitch in here

[rich agate]

How?

[tribal ruin]

its gdp is like 15x russias and has more military gear than russia and more advanced

[fresh river]

So what is up with the politics in here.

[gusty jasper]

Hotwired was so fucking good

[arctic grove]

Ooh wow, north korea

[wheat yew]

If the game is fun, it's not grinding. Grinding essentially means doing something over and over and over again in order to obtain something.

[tribal ruin]

russia is a 2nd world country

[rich agate]

Ikr and with all these civilian vehicles in game, I’m thinking it could make a comeback

[wheat yew]

I.e. in World of Warcraft you 'grind' dungeons - do them repeatedly - to get the best gear

[simple linden]

but dont you guys get that its an alternate universe, fucking lithuania can be the most powerful country if they wish to make it

[soft kayak]

if a game requires grinding to retain players its probably shit

[gusty jasper]

Or imagine like some moving objective gamemode with an airplane you contest under

and it goes around the map creating chokepoints in various areas

[simple linden]

its pointless to compare our world to the world of 2042

[wheat yew]

Grinding specifically refers to actions which are not necessarily fun.

[arctic grove]

They remove the main menu

[rich agate]

So pretty much air superiority

[grand kelp]

^

[soft kayak]

if youre grinding then youre not playing cause you find it intrinsically enjoyable, youre playing cause it will give you a shiny. A shiny that youll only use to chase the next shiny. Its a skinner box/

[gusty jasper]

I worded that wrong

[wheat yew]

E.g.

• Going through this dungeon in WOW is going to be fun
• In order to go through this dungeon I need better gear
• In order to get better gear I need a higher level and a lot of, I dunno, mining materials
• I spend hours killing the same creatures and running around mining iron to make the gear I want (this is the not fun part) so that I can get better gear and do that dungeon (fun part)

[arctic grove]

You probably dont know about competing countires, you realise america and russia had had a crisis ages ago involving nuke transportation?

[gusty jasper]

I hope the progression system is hardline style

[wheat yew]

^

[simple linden]

its hard to quantify how fun is grinding

[gusty jasper]

you unlock what you want

not playing for 36 levels just to get a magnum

[simple linden]

some people like grinding

[rich agate]

It was pretty neat

[simple linden]

its like grinding in a gym

[arctic grove]

Its not the “media” it was a real threat

[wheat yew]

A game should be fun through and through, and demanding you subject yourself to things which are annoying and repetitive just for the sake of having fun at a later date is, in my personal opinion, completely antithetical to good game design

[simple linden]

you want to be faster and stronger, even though you suffer in a gym

[dusk bronze]

you are sure 😂

[simple linden]

why would there be

[arctic grove]

Russia targeted the government but not the people, would you want some competing country transport nukes next to yours? Would you defend yourself?

[glossy yacht]

[wheat yew]

Respectfully I think that comparing improving yourself IRL to trying to have fun and unwind with video games is not really comparable

[soft kayak]

if you need the goal to play then you dont really enjoy it. I can play bf4 or tf2 or csgo or halo 3 without any goals cause theyre fun on their own. They dont need to rely on this shit to keep me engaged.

[gusty jasper]

wait i just realized, if the game has bots... that means gamemode/map specific gun unlocks wont be impossible to get if those modes become unpopular

[soft kayak]

and the funny thing is that, in a progression based game, once you unlock anything your work becomes useless. Why use the items for no reward right?

[simple linden]

everyone has their own way of looking at fun, if a person A enjoys grinding in a game, then thats fun for them

[dusk bronze]

what treat ?😂 😂 😂

[arctic grove]

Bots are smart seeing that most servers die, it replaces campaign too which is good

[wheat yew]

To be fair I kinda see his point, like vaguely. Like... if his version of fun is "get 1000 kills with this weapon", for example, that's his choice right

[gusty jasper]

exactly plus a co-op mode was confirmed

[arctic grove]

Nuclear crisis

[wheat yew]

Even if the process of getting 1000 kills with that weapon is annoying and time consuming

[soft kayak]

he is being tricked.

[rich agate]

hopefully it’s nothing similar to MW 19 co-op

[wheat yew]

I mean, Dark Souls is a game that's not necessarily fun, and the fun comes from overcoming the challenges it throws at you

[gusty jasper]

what was MW19 coop like?

[wheat yew]

But I personally agree

[glacial lance]

idk what you are talking about
i live in russia, i know it from the inside and it sounds unreal for me

[rich agate]

you personally may like those grindy sessions, but it’s not good for longevity

[wheat yew]

I definitely feel like people who enjoy grinding should be able to enjoy a game

[arctic grove]

Theres a game that simulates this, you grow your military and nukes, and the last stage is when you nuke everything and the most casualties win

[wheat yew]

But I don't want that to come at a cost that people who don't enjoy grinding lose access to things

[rich agate]

buggy as fuck, took an hour and if all four died you restarted from the beginning, was just never ending

[gusty jasper]

unfortunate

i hope they add one genius gamemode from COD into Battlefield...

[simple linden]

thats why i hope its a similar system to infinite

[gusty jasper]

infected

[wheat yew]

From what you said that system sounds reasonable

[rich agate]

Eh it seems more of a cod thing tbh

[soft kayak]

dark souls sorta blurs the line between whats progression based cause thats a game where you play multiple times for different builds. the progression is much more intertwined with the games depth, unlike a collectathon

[simple linden]

sometimes i dont want to play 2042, sometimes i want to play other games

[soft kayak]

theyre tricking you into wasting your time kid

[wheat yew]

But it could NOT be behind a paywall, and be accessible to people who don't enjoy grinding

[gusty jasper]

I'm confident they could do something really cool with a zombie style gamemode with 128 players

[wheat yew]

I like how Insurgency Sandstorm did its customisation

[simple linden]

the best way would be to just always earn progression towards a battle pass season

[bleak lagoon]

its the money maker. thats what gon make people buy

[wheat yew]

There is a frickton of items and it only takes a few rounds to save up enough money to get the most expensive gear

[simple linden]

no matter if it expired or not

[signal basin]

Not every game needs zombies.

[arctic grove]

Search “which country has the most nukes”

[gusty jasper]

*zombie style, not necessarily adding zombies

[signal basin]

Still not needed.

[simple linden]

you played a lot during season 1 and unlocked everything, and then you stopped playing a bit for season 2, you return for season 3, and you still have a way to earn shit from season 2 even tho S3 is ongoing

[arctic grove]

Cod franchise implemented zombies first

[spark acorn]

Not exactly a zombie mode.

[soft kayak]

the US had overestimated the amount of nukes Russia had by a factor of 10.

[wheat yew]

Battlefield Hardline - and Battlefield 1 and V to an extent - were very good with letting you decide the order in which you unlock things

[dusk bronze]

what government?you mean US?

[simple linden]

cant think of a better system than that

[wheat yew]

Y'all probably wanna move this to general

[spark acorn]

He's talking about a cold war type of shit.

[glacial lance]

are you scared of nukes? it's just a red button that may cause the end of the world, nothing more

[gusty jasper]

Politic andies

[soft kayak]

progression can be useful as a way to slowly introduce game mechanics to new players but if its the sole reason to play your game then your game is shit

[gusty jasper]

depends, rust does pretty well with this style

[soft kayak]

u play destiny?

[arctic grove]

Yea

[edgy eagle]

Sheesh

[arctic grove]

Im not scared of nukes, we already know humans are causing our extinction

[wheat yew]

I understand the fun in 'progression', wanting to 100% something or whatever. E.g. in Battlefield 4, whenever I pick it up, I try to 100% every weapon in every class

[arctic grove]

And im proving my point on why russia was an actual threat

[wheat yew]

It prevents me from using the same weapon every time, every day, every game

[soft kayak]

mmm
Survival games are a bit of a grey zone with this cause the progression effectively is the gameplay. Instead of the rewards being external like a destiny drop/

[wheat yew]

Which I think is fun

I mean, to this day there are people in BF4 who have tried every gun for 3 mins, and then settled on Famas/ACE23/AEK-971 and never use anything else ever

[soft kayak]

titanfall 2's progression was genius cause it rewarded the player for switching weapons. One of the only good examples I can think of.

[gusty jasper]

BF4 balance is pretty dogshit

[wheat yew]

Haven't played it, how did that work?

[wheat yew]

Yeah when I was younger I would get hella tilted. "Oh wow, you noob you use ACE23". But now I'm like 'whatever'.

[gusty jasper]

AEK literally outgunning every weapon in the game

but the FAMAS was OP

okay

[wheat yew]

I feel like every gun should have its niche

[soft kayak]

you level up your character by leveling up titans, classes, and weapons.
Since each level takes more xp then the last, the most efficient way to level up is to vary your playstyle as much as possible.

[wheat yew]

Some should be longer distance, some should be shorter distance, some should be medium

Big magazine? Sorry, slow reload speed. Great accuracy? Low ammo count. Etc etc.

[gusty jasper]

yeah

[simple linden]

thats why im concerned that people will only use meta weapons in 2042

[gusty jasper]

tell that to the AWS

in the LMG class

[wheat yew]

Yeah, I'm concerned about the plus system

[gusty jasper]

[simple linden]

since every class can take every weapon

the plus system worked well in crysis

[wheat yew]

But crysis was singleplayer, right?

[simple linden]

well in crysis 3, you could change attachments on the fly

[soft kayak]

it had multiplayer

[simple linden]

in mp

[gusty jasper]

The plus system makes sense in BF2042 because the maps are so large, it will be almost impossible to predict what scenarios you encounter

otherwise, it wouldn't be necessary

[simple linden]

even tho crysis 3 had shit balance, that on the fly system didnt make gun A outperform

[wheat yew]

All I'm saying is that, if I am playing on a long distance map and pick up a long distance loadout, I should excel against targets at long distance, but should not be able to kick ass at short distance

And if the plus system allows me to change my gun from a long range to short range powerhouse at will, that defeats the purpose of foresight

[soft kayak]

its not like you can turn a sniper rifle into an smg

[gusty jasper]

^

its just an attachment

[simple linden]

2042 isnt the first game that lets you customize weapons on the fly, that was crysis

[gusty jasper]

we know

[wheat yew]

I'm sceptical but I guess we'll see how it goes

[simple linden]

even the background art of 2042 is an exact replica of crysis 2 background XD

[wheat yew]

I really hope that

Unlike all the previous games, we get a reason to run our weapons without attachements

[gusty jasper]

does an AR with a 1x sight make it an SMG?

[soft kayak]

no. You can change the barrel attachment, sight, ammo, and grip

its not like the gunsmith

[arctic grove]

The anti tanks and air were shit but also limited, a rpg instantly kills air vehicles yet ground gets slightly damaged, the one for anti air do worse

[gusty jasper]

Yep, my biggest gripe

[simple linden]

the + system lets you react to whats happening

[gusty jasper]

Tanks were broken in BF4

same with LAVs

literally unkillable

[wheat yew]

In BF4 once you've unlocked underbarrel attachements, there was no reason NOT to have it. Same with sights and other gadgets

[simple linden]

an AR will still be an AR

SMG will still be an SMG

[wheat yew]

I hope that there's a reason to use 'bare' weapons in BF2042 even after you unlock attachements

[simple linden]

it will just have a bit wider purpose for a given situation

[soft kayak]

maybe? We dont know how drastic that would be tho

[arctic grove]

Which couldve started nuclear warfare?

[soft kayak]

changing ammo may just be a shotgun thing

[gusty jasper]

I hope they never bring back the fullchoke

no one talks about how broken that attachment is

[soft kayak]

the model 10 trench 2036 var

[simple linden]

all we got was that changing the ammo will have an effect on rate of fire and damage

[still vault]

No politics in chat.

[arctic grove]

Shotguns are overpowered, the AEK is overused

[wheat yew]

Of course but if I'm running a long-range assault rifle set up, and you get the drop on me, there shouldn't be a situation where I duck behind cover, change my sight and grip, and suddenly have a gun that excels at short-range. You should be able to have advantage over me.

[simple linden]

to what extent, its unknown

[dusk bronze]

ok

[simple linden]

i can tell you that it wasnt an issue in crysis 3, so i doubt it will be an issue in 2042

of course they are vastly different games

[wide salmon]

May I ask where was this article or video that mentioned that Battlefield claimed to say good bye to lag/delay especially when rocketing vehicles?

[simple linden]

but using an acog isnt unusable at closer ranges

[gusty jasper]

ACOG in BF3

that shit was awful

[simple linden]

i doubt you will be able to put beyond x4 on an AR

[soft kayak]

x40 on meres leg

[simple linden]

and beyond x2 or x3 on SMG's

[gusty jasper]

they should let us put a rifle scope on an SMG

fuck it

[wheat yew]

Honestly my main concerns are:

• Predatory microtransactions
• 'Operators' with backstories/personality will get really repetitive really quick
• Plus system will better help you excel at everything
• Any character having any gadget means everyone is running with rocket launchers (RIP armour)

[simple linden]

who knows, they might lol

[gusty jasper]

I want a Scorpion EVO with 40x hunter

[simple linden]

well they already confirmed that micros will be cosmetic only

[gusty jasper]

thank you very much

[simple linden]

and since its an alternate universe, the operator stories can be whatever they want

[wheat yew]

Replace micros with in-game currency that you acquire at reasonable pace

[solemn latch]

The fact that rocket launchers are available to any class "operator" means that they are just old school cod perks now lol

[soft kayak]

Any character having any gadget means everyone is running with rocket launchers (RIP armour)
Maybe. I could see a lot of people taking health or ammo in favor of an rpg. Or an anti infantry gadget, or maybe a spawn beacon

[wheat yew]

Á la BF:Hardline / Insurgency Sandstorm

[potent folio]

why battlefield 2042 its 2042?

[arctic grove]

Because why not

[potent folio]

xd

[arctic grove]

🙂

[dusk bronze]

Learn first history before blame other country...

[soft kayak]

take it to dms

[wheat yew]

Something I hated about BFV is how incredibly powerful medics were; infinite heals and SMG = dominate

[solar plover]

hi

[solemn latch]

One man armys are going to be op in this game

[arctic grove]

Kinda bummed there’s no attack jet shown

[soft kayak]

the rpg should only be useful against tanks.

[wheat yew]

You get 2 free gadget slots I think, aside from your 'operator' gadget

[soft kayak]

only 1 free gadget.

[wheat yew]

My mistake then

[vivid matrix]

Alright guys so there is ammo.l crates and medic pouches, I’m actually keen for these specialists now !!

These Specialties and Traits are unique to their respective Specialist, which for your Loadout means you can now fully customize it to your liking:

Primary Weapon
Equipment (items anyone can use such as a Medical Crate or Supply Crate)
Secondary Weapon
Throwable (such as Frag or Incendiary Grenade)

[frail sparrow]

medics do be stronk in bfv. now everyone has access to same tools in so that's nice

[soft kayak]

c4 is considered a grenade

probably caused the confusion

[frail sparrow]

where'd you get this from?

[simple linden]

from the official site i presume

[soft kayak]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-Announcements/Battlefield-Briefing-Welcome-to-2042/td-p/10415599

just dont explain it.

[vivid matrix]

Have a read everyone, map scales and how new conquest works

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-Announcements/Battlefield-Briefing-Welcome-to-2042/m-p/10415599/highlight/true#M1

[frail sparrow]

thanks my dude!

[soft kayak]

or have it be a future rpg with shit splash damage

[vivid matrix]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Battlefield-Announcements/Battlefield-Briefing-Welcome-to-2042/m-p/10415599/highlight/true#M1

[wheat yew]

But see, that's kinda the point, if everyone has access to the same tools and e.g. everyone has AT capabilities, that kinda sucks

[simple linden]

rpg's can be armor piercing only

armor piercing tank shells do fuck all splash damage

[soft kayak]

yes but this is the future and I dont care.
Also that depends on what round the rpg is firing

[green breach]

they should add the Zip 22 as a gag weapon

[wheat yew]

Maybe it's just me but I don't feel like Battlefield franchise will benefit from losing the identity of its classes.

[simple linden]

hard to tell at this point

without playing

[frail sparrow]

but note, that everyone can spawn in their own vehicle (though with prolly a limit). so vehicles will be much more prominent than that we are used to in previous bfs.

[wheat yew]

It went from I think 5 in BF1942, through 7 later on, to 4 in the later titles

[soft kayak]

id rather some redditors bitch online then have the item be broken

[hardy kestrel]

I think one the obvious problems with the way the specialist system is implemented is that if you are joining and trying figure out how best to help the team it sounds like it will be hard to tell where they are deficient. Like if you see that your team only has two medics in BF4 then it might be a good idea to pick that.

[wheat yew]

The medic operator Maria Falck has a trait that says she "revives people at full health", and I think that implies every operator will have access to some rudimentary revive system

But she will excel at it

[simple linden]

you also gotta consider, its gonna be 64v64, your individual skill level and class will matter less

[hardy kestrel]

It sounds like there will be hybrid where you will have vehicles on map and then supplementary ones you can call in.

[simple linden]

it will balance itself out

[soft kayak]

a support in bf4 may have a mortar and claymores. A recon may be running shotguns. An engineer may be spamming the eod bot and ignoring vehicles entirely

[wheat yew]

The gameplay trailer also showed that you can revive people within your squad, like in BFV

[green breach]

She revives people at full health everyone else can revive but only at partial health

[frail sparrow]

si

[soft kayak]

squad rez, squad rez

[green breach]

she can also revive from a distance

[simple linden]

theres gonna be squad revives

[hardy kestrel]

True and good point but it least gave you a rough approximation.

[frail sparrow]

yeah squad rez can't revive people with full health

only that operator can

[simple linden]

i dont think you can revive other people that arent in your squad, if you arent playing falck

[wheat yew]

But that's kinda the point, if everyone can revive then you're not 'really' rewarded for your team having a good balance of medics

[arctic grove]

Oh boohoo, apparently you didnt read my “ontopic”, by ontopic i mean talking about battlefield

[frail sparrow]

i think only the specialists in the medic category can revive everyone

the rest just have to do with squad only

[simple linden]

the medic category is a support class category

[soft kayak]

I think if you have a pre made squad, the new system will deepen the options for a squad set up. Because there is only one classic gadget per member, choices may be more interesting.
However, solo players may see much less teamplay, due to other solo players not caring or defaulting to the rpg.

[simple linden]

falck is a specialist that has a medic focus

[fossil trench]

You guys see the BF2042 loadouts? 👀

[wheat yew]

I think it was good for Battlefield to have classes that can't excel at everything, again, it rewards foresight

[frail sparrow]

depends. if tickets are important and deaths matter towards the tickets, there will always be support people

[snow sandal]

I really don't get it, the EA Questionnaire from a few months ago was asking about BF and how much squad play/teamwork was valued etc (basically hinting a teamwork being a big deal). Having Specialist's that can use any weapon and any gadget seems to remove a lot of that

[soft kayak]

I dont think any loadout will excel at everything in 2042

[fossil trench]

Sniper, SMG, Health kit, RPG, C4 in a single loadout

This is gonna be fun

[soft kayak]

you cant. Its either the rpg or the health kit. You pick 1

[wheat yew]

If any operator can have any gun and and any gadget, it's absolutely the case that they could create a pretty decent jack-of-all-trades

[simple linden]

and its a sniper or SMG

[snow sandal]

Oh, there most certainly will

[simple linden]

not both

[arctic grove]

wtf

[fossil trench]

Not from what I saw

[green breach]

Well each operator has a locked gadget.

[soft kayak]

how? What weapon works at every range? What gadget is both combative and supportive?

[soft kayak]

what did you see?

[hardy kestrel]

Maybe we just get rid of death altogether. It would be so much easier to balance if we didn't have to worry about calculating damage output for weapons and who can and can't revive.

[fossil trench]

A screenshot of a loadout

[simple linden]

there will be a meta

[fossil trench]

It had all of those

[soft kayak]

send me it

[simple linden]

its just impossible to guess what that meta will be at this point when nobody played the game

[fossil trench]

I don’t have it

[snow sandal]

Where?

[green breach]

And with testers they can still fine tune it

[fossil trench]

Just saw it scrolling through social media

[soft kayak]

you cant have 2 primaries. There is no "sniper and smg" and you can only have 1 open gadget

[arctic grove]

screw this im going back to cod

[soft kayak]

source: I made it up

[green breach]

said no one ever

[wheat yew]

Maria Falck:

• Assault rifle (can do good work on all ranges, think ACE23 from BF4)
• Machine pistol (think G18 from BF4, melts at close range)
• Syringe pistol (can heal allies and yourself I assume, keeping you in combat and supporting)
• Rocket launcher (AT)
• C4 (AT and anti-infantry capabilities)

[fossil trench]

Lol okay

[arctic grove]

I was joking

[fossil trench]

You clown

[snow sandal]

The launchers being universal is just beyond stupid. How are tanks going to ever survive?

[soft kayak]

-cant heal yourself with the pistol
-Machine pistol isnt really an smg.

[fossil trench]

No it isn’t

[wheat yew]

The downside to this of course is that you can't resupply yourself, unless there is a way to do that.

[fossil trench]

Don’t be a jackass

[simple linden]

the syringe pistol is only for reviving

[wheat yew]

I never said a machine pistol is an SMG

[arctic grove]

Moderators cant read i swear

[wheat yew]

Well, technically it is, but that's just technically.

[arctic grove]

Maybe tanks have flares or something like that

[fossil trench]

I don’t have a source. That doesn’t mean I made it up 🤡🤡🤡

[median hemlock]

Do the EA/Dice people In here ever say anything??

[simple linden]

AR can be decent at all ranges, but it wont be better at close range than an SMG, or long range than a DMR or a sniper

[soft kayak]

also, why assume ARs would be as good as previous titles? surely the new class system would cause massive balance changes

[green breach]

This is why they are having closed testing. So they can fine tune the game

[simple linden]

AR's were always the jack of all trades kind of weapons

[arctic grove]

not much

[slender gyro]

I doubt we'll have a medic "class" that can't heal themselves, it's a battlefield staple

[snow sandal]

Bruh. They don't have lock ons ahahah

Flares won't do anything to any rpg

[soft kayak]

medic crate is an open gadget. So you can, but not without sacrificing an rpg

[glossy fractal]

has anyone here already pre ordered the game

[keen heath]

hello, my name is lossy...

[wheat yew]

On the contrary, why assume the ARs won't be as good as in previous titles? I'm just working off of the game design we know DICE for.

[fossil trench]

Stop bullshitting people, man

I’m tired of it

[simple linden]

but AR's cant replace every single weapon class

[green breach]

Smoke grenades would effect your rpg. They take less damage I believe

[wheat yew]

Tell that to AEK-971

[arctic grove]

something tells me DICE listened to ROZE/KHT

[soft kayak]

cause the base design has clearly changed. Without the class system you cant have a "best weapon" like ARs, they need to be on par with the rest

[simple linden]

well thats BF4

[snow sandal]

Don't get mad for people not believing you when you can't back it up

[arctic grove]

and decided to just throw away alot of the tactical game design choices lmfao

[median hemlock]

I think we’re over thinking this. I think a lot of people will default to the gadgets they use the most in previous games. There are in fact people who like to heal and who like to have ammo crates with them

[arctic grove]

otherwise I don't think it would be bad

[keen heath]

exactly

[arctic grove]

We peacefully sleep in bed in night cause Emma has 2 mothers
-Sun Tzu

[soft kayak]

well we cant cause we can only pick one classic gadget

[simple linden]

its literally pissing in the wind what we are doing right now

[wheat yew]

I think I understand what you mean. Like for example, since there is no engineers, PDWs/SMGs can't be worse than other guns just because the engineer is the only class with AT

[simple linden]

just blind guessing the meta without actually playing the game

[fossil trench]

I don’t think I need to back it up. People need to stop freaking out every time anyone says anything

[valid onyx]

Open wide

I mean what

[fossil trench]

It’s fucking annoying

[soft kayak]

exactly
and there are ups and downs to that.

[simple linden]

LOL XD

[snow sandal]

Yes you do. That is the most naive thing I have ever seen.

[wheat yew]

I'll reserve my final judgement for when I play the beta but

I think it's okay to have concerns

[green breach]

All this what ifs, but will we see the Zip 22 in 2042?

[soft kayak]

Source: I dont need one

[fossil trench]

You don’t need to trust me lmfao

[slender gyro]

I can't wait for the beta, Give it to me already DICE!

[bold bridge]

yo any of u guys know the requirements to get invitation for alpha test?

[soft kayak]

yeah. After all it is dice. They could always fuck it up

[wheat yew]

Yes, yes, we get it, you watched a 'Forgotten Guns' videos

[arctic grove]

weren't clases already flexible as shit in BF4 tbh

[green breach]

you know it

[fossil trench]

I say something and now I need an essay? Gtfo

[arctic grove]

like you could do alot with your weapons for every class

[soft kayak]

yeah but not nearly as much as they are now

[arctic grove]

true

[wheat yew]

Go back to BF2

Seven classes baby

[fossil trench]

It’s just what I saw

[arctic grove]

Also some guns are essential towards a class style

i.e sniper rifles and LMGs

[soft kayak]

have you submitted your claim for peer review?

[fossil trench]

It’s just what I saw. Stop freaking out over every little thing anyone says

[wheat yew]

I wonder what role LMGs will play

[arctic grove]

meh LMGs in older BF games save BFV were just high-mag ARs

[snow sandal]

No. If you want people to believe you, you're going to need a source/evidence. If no one believes you because you can't back it up, it's on you, don't get mad at others lol.

[simple linden]

i am also concerned about weapon balance and meta, but we are just overthinking it at this point

[soft kayak]

defensive and suppressive weapons probably.

[arctic grove]

people cried at you if you used them like an actual LMG

[simple linden]

especially when we never played the game

[soft kayak]

well in ww2 many of them were high mag ARs

[median hemlock]

They say the closed beta is for battlefield veterans. What’s the requirement for that

[wheat yew]

The problem with video games is that 'suppressive' doesn't translate that much in low-consequence settings

[arctic grove]

ye but you can't run around and shoot them like in battlefield, the recoil capabilities and whatnot aren't tied to how they work irl

[soft kayak]

true.

[fossil trench]

I’m not making a argument. I said I saw something. Stop freaking out. Holy shit

[simple linden]

i.e. youtubers such as jack frags

[snow sandal]

No

[median hemlock]

No. There’s an open beta and a closed beta

[wheat yew]

It works in e.g. Insurgency Sandstorm because the gunfire is super deadly and there's no reviving, and suppression blurs you more than BF3 did

[snow sandal]

You're the one who freaked out at people not believing you..

[arctic grove]

speaking of insurgency

[median hemlock]

Open beta is pre orders. Closed they have written I believe in their site for “select battlefield veterans”

[green breach]

I played battlefield since 1942 and I still wont get the closed invite. Probably youtubers gonna get that

[snow sandal]

No, not true at all.

[arctic grove]

LMGs are made in that game so that you recoil like crazy

[fossil trench]

🤡🤡🤡

[soft kayak]

other option is trading firepower for mobility i.e they shred but kick like hell unless deployed

[simple linden]

the closed beta will be under NDA

for youtubers and other influencers

[arctic grove]

They did this in BFV didint they

[median hemlock]

Makes sense

[arctic grove]

in BF1 and 4 you could just stand and easily use them

[soft kayak]

kinda. They went to far with mmgs.

[median hemlock]

Damn need to start a YouTube channel. Make some BF content. And get big fast

[hardy kestrel]

All I'm saying is that if my M1A5 Abrams doesn't have a grappling hook I'm cancelling my intention to preorder

[grim nacelle]

Do you have any sources to this?

[green breach]

[wheat yew]

I like the bipods in BF games, actually, but you don't get many shots off before getting sniped

[tulip flicker]

hi folks, im kinda new in this game, kinda played awhile back in BF3, can yall give me advice in which package should i order, is it worth getting the ultimate edition for those extra contents

[snow sandal]

🤡🤡🤡

[simple linden]

im pretty sure jack frags mentioned that in a recent video

[wheat yew]

Don't preorder.

[arctic grove]

BF4 bipoding felt like an actual bipod system

with it's own movement, physics

[median hemlock]

Absolutely pre order. Simply for the open beta as part of that

[fossil trench]

Mate piss off with your BS please

[wheat yew]

I actually prefer BF1/V system, much less finnicky

[grim nacelle]

he prob mentioned it for the closed alpha. no way they will make an nda for the closed beta

[soft kayak]

bf4 felt annoying cause theres many places where I should be able to bipod but cant

[grim nacelle]

as closed alpha they were under NDA

[wheat yew]

No preorders.

[arctic grove]

Theres never been anything that mentions that

[simple linden]

right, closed alpha, not beta

[tulip flicker]

can u explain why, sorry im super new in this series

[hardy kestrel]

Preorder? More like Pre odor!

[arctic grove]

yeah but they did do a good job at making the bipod system feel very distinct

[median hemlock]

I haven’t pre ordered a game in YEARS. But for access to the open beta you can bet I am

[arctic grove]

but then yeah bf1/v was more simplified for the better

[soft kayak]

shh! He doesnt need a source

[frail sparrow]

i'd say go gold if you want cosmetics, or standard if you only care about gameplay stuff. all the new gameplay additions etc will be free. gold only lets you prepurchase the cosmetics tier of battlepasses and gives you a few skins. ultimate gives you an additional skin bundle, artbook and soundtrack

[green breach]

🍅

[snow bramble]

It's your choice to preorder. But I would suggest waiting for more gameplay before doing so.

[soft kayak]

DICE are notorious for shit launches
4 and 5 come to mind

[green breach]

steam can refund no questions asked

[wheat yew]

Pre-ordering games reduces the pressure that companies feel in the initial presentation. If you pre-order a game, and on launch it's a buggy mess, the companies don't care cause they already got your money. Some people will refund but not all.

You can get the game much cheaper, and much more polished, after a few weeks/months

[still grail]

Can we use mortar gadget??

[median hemlock]

Does anyone know what that midnight bundle entails?

[still grail]

I want it

[soft kayak]

pre order for the beta then cancel after the beta

[hardy kestrel]

Blasphemy! They have been pristine examples of coding excellent!

[tulip flicker]

i see, that is so good to know

[green breach]

wait 5 had a bad launch? I know 4 was horrid but I didn't know 5 was bad too

[grim nacelle]

it is up to you, i pre-ordered this game already and so far, it still looks extremely promising

[hardy kestrel]

Also today is opposite day

[arctic grove]

will they finally fucking add proximity voice

[wheat yew]

V was REALLY bad.

[soft kayak]

not confirmed. It would be an open gadget if tis in.
I hope mortars stay in hell

[arctic grove]

which every other game has

[wheat yew]

No offence at all but no.

[median hemlock]

I personally enjoyed V

[soft kayak]

[simple linden]

it just depends how forgiving you are, and how much you mind if the launch is a mess or not

[wheat yew]

At launch I meant. It was very buggy and barren.

[soft kayak]

y not?

[grim nacelle]

same

[wide shore]

Same

[simple linden]

i preordered bf5, enjoyed it

[green breach]

Was V launch worse than 4?

[median hemlock]

Ahhh gotcha. Luckily I was underway the first month after launch

[soft kayak]

Id love proxy chat in bf

[grim nacelle]

eghh they are about even

[mighty gyro]

battleifeld 2042: anmogus edition

[arctic grove]

battlefield V feels arcadey, thats why i dont like it as much as other games but its still a good game

[wheat yew]

You want one reason? RUST proximity voice chat

[tulip flicker]

can we get the midnight bundle later in the game without getting the ultimate edition

[green breach]

Damn that worries me for 2042

[arctic grove]

didin't 4 have extreme netcode issues

[hardy kestrel]

Tanks were pretty awful for like the first 3 months and the whole ground game was broken because of a glitch where you could circumvent the entire ammo limitation system

[simple linden]

i will preorder 2042, no matter how the launch goes, and i will play it

[soft kayak]

Squad has so many fun moments due to proxy chat and I cant imagine what would happen in bf
whats up with rust?

[arctic grove]

like BFV didin't have many when it launched

[tulip flicker]

tysm for ur info

[grim nacelle]

lol i did not hear anything racist in proxy chat

xD

[grim nacelle]

anytime brotha

[mighty gyro]

what? if u preorder bf2042 u get free amogus imposter dlc specialist?

[green breach]

Play squad i you want something more simulation like

Or Arma

[wheat yew]

People running around blaring absolutely messed up things on voice chat just to tilt you.

[soft kayak]

better then no proxy chat at all.
Sounds like fun!

[wheat yew]

No.

[grim nacelle]

must be an EU thing, i never heard such a thing with my proxy chat

[wheat yew]

Actually

Fine, add proximity voice chat, but I'm disabling it straight away

[wheat yew]

You should watch Stimpee's RUST gameplay

(Aussie)

[grim nacelle]

i never got into rust

[soft kayak]

I think it would add a lot to the only in bf moments.

[grim nacelle]

agh my bad

[violet robin]

Yep :)

[grim nacelle]

indeed

[wheat yew]

No, not me

Stimpee is an Aussie

[mighty gyro]

voice chat with all team must be a thing in new bf... or at least divide the team in 5-6 big groups (not squads) and let them use voice chat freely IMHO

[wheat yew]

Lmao

[grim nacelle]

agh

[wheat yew]

Squad/Team voice chat was borderline useless in BF4 and 3

[median hemlock]

Nah squad voice must be priority

[soft kayak]

64 people in a voice channel would cause my ears to bleed

[wheat yew]

What makes y'all think that proximity voice chat would be any better

[median hemlock]

Can you imagine 64 people trying to communicate? I’d rather jump out my window

[mighty gyro]

Make it easy as hell to mute

[wheat yew]

If you care about situational awareness, the ping system is better

[grim nacelle]

it won't but it would be funny for the memes

[soft kayak]

its not useful but its extremely fun.

[mighty gyro]

YEah i said to divide it in groups. Maybe like 18 ppl

[soft kayak]

also call outs are more relevant to people around you

[mighty gyro]

Or at least proximity chat

[wheat yew]

Having a bunch of squeakers and ragers shouting my ear off as I'm trying to play the game doesn't sound very fun at all

[soft kayak]

then mute them

[simple linden]

thats why a mute button exists

[median hemlock]

How does that work then. You want to talk to someone near you with the proximity chat. But just divided into big groups would cause mass confusion and be more annoying

[mighty gyro]

You can just mute them if u dont want to teamplay

[soft kayak]

most people arent like that

[mighty gyro]

I see them as two separate things but maybe the proximity chat is better

[simple linden]

i laugh my ass off when i hear people raging like that

[nova ice]

id id manage to unwrap them like that earlier but i forgot how, at least filling the texture sheet. but theyre all at different rottaions

[soft kayak]

The best part of squad are the funny moments where you dick around with a few other people in proxy chat.

[median hemlock]

I would say proximity chat isn’t a terrible thing. But could be bad. Positives and negatives really

[arctic grove]

It'd be cool to see like walkie talkies to communicate

[wheat yew]

What? C'mon dude this is battlefield. Not DayZ or EFT

[mighty gyro]

bro u ok?

[snow bramble]

This is so true, especially when you are having a wholesome conversation, and then suddenly you get ambushed

[median hemlock]

Or. Idea. Squad leaders can swap chats for communication to each other and then switch back to relay info to squad members

[tropic minnow]

haha is BF not ARMA 3 , of curse arma 3 and SQUAD are batter shotters ever

[nova ice]

@mighty gyro yeah why

[simple linden]

thats way too hardcore

[arctic atlas]

Way too confusing @median hemlock

[soft kayak]

or when everyone is either singing in the transport truck, drunk AF, or larping as whatever country youre playing as
Sometimes all 3

[arctic grove]

[simple linden]

bf is arcadey

[median hemlock]

I mean if it’s the simple push of a D Pad is it really hard core or confusing….

[arctic grove]

Release date?

[simple linden]

thats impossible to manage for casuals

[wheat yew]

Will see pretty much no use, to the point where I doubt DICE would care to program such a thing

[tropic minnow]

yeap

[snow bramble]

yep, but proxi chat doesnt fit in battlefield, at least imo

[median hemlock]

Well I tried

[nova ice]

oh

im in the wrong channel

ffsa

[median hemlock]

Like someone said earlier

[pliant mauve]

dice vs Activision

[median hemlock]

We’re just pissing in the wind

[tropic minnow]

i want to SEE allllll destroying. llike in BF3

[nova ice]

:S

[mighty gyro]

it could be a nice implementation tho. they should jsut experiment with that

[mighty gyro]

lol

[topaz field]

Anything new?

[simple linden]

squad leaders having a separate voice chat has no place in bf

[snow bramble]

true

[nova ice]

i clicked it, i swear i did

[wheat yew]

I feel like

It's good to have content but

I don't think making things too complicated for the sake of complexity is good

[bleak nebula]

I wonder what secret game mode dice la made

[mighty gyro]

and anyway i always missed a better way to communicate since bf3 i dont know u guys..

[simple linden]

bf isnt like squad to be that hardcore

[arctic atlas]

@median hemlock no, finn. You have commited a serious crime. The only appropriate punishment isnthe death sentence

[arctic grove]

proximity chat would help

but no not squad only chat

wait what

[soft kayak]

I think some way to interact with randoms beyond the pre set callouts would take much better advantage of the large team sizes and all out warfare. It could lead to funny moments or even more teamplay.

[median hemlock]

[arctic grove]

like I want to be able to talk to the blueberry tanker and go "hey bro you suck ass"

in proximity chat

[wheat yew]

Toxicity

[snow bramble]

toxic

[simple linden]

the ping system from apex would be nice

[nova ice]

not enough duns

[median hemlock]

[mighty gyro]

amag us 2 toxic kids

[tropic minnow]

why they still using bullllets in 2042?

[nova ice]

still not enough

[wheat yew]

The ping system would be nice, but I feel like it might get overwhelming if 20 people are pinging at once

[green breach]

DUN DUN DUN

[simple linden]

when you ping wherever, your character just shouts the area or point of interest where you pinged

[wheat yew]

Unless it's squad only

[median hemlock]

Not trying to get booted by a mod for spamming

[snow bramble]

what kind of question is that?

[soft kayak]

"psst, you, hey you, you want some slams? I got the slams!"

[median hemlock]

5 is my DUN limit

[grim nacelle]

why do we use bullets in 2021?

[wheat yew]

So BFV ping system

[simple linden]

i mean only for your squad

[thorn grove]

hamburger cheeseburger big mac whopper

[nova ice]

done at 5 duns?

[tropic minnow]

lasers maybe

FUTURE they tollld

[soft kayak]

Did we forget that spotting exists?

[median hemlock]

5 subs

Duns

[simple linden]

yes, bf 5 ping system, but a bit more advanced like in apex

[nova ice]

not a true bf fan

[wheat yew]

We used bullets 20 years ago, we used bullets 100 years ago, why are we not going to use bullets in the next 20 years?

[median hemlock]

[grim nacelle]

no one knows what the future can hold. we still use bullets just like we did 20+ years ago

[snow bramble]

plus, 2142 uses bullets i believe

[green breach]

Bullets will be used for quite some time. The big change though is going to be green bullets. Doesn't contain lead

[tropic minnow]

i just want to see the ping system OF MY SQUAD not ALLLL THE TEAM

[soft kayak]

cause we'll all be dead due to climate change

[arctic grove]

we used bullets 500 years ago

lol

[nova ice]

well the pentagon has revealed "ufos" so it could go pew pew lasers at any moment

[arctic grove]

literally the first muskets

[wheat yew]

Thank goodness that the bullets used to massacre civilians won't be so environmentally damning, I couldn't stand that

[grim nacelle]

lmao it will be spam city

[arctic grove]

bf1700 where we use muskets and play as UK or ottomans

[simple linden]

what i meant to say is to have a ping system like it was in bf5, but more interactive like in apex, and not like in 5 where your char just shouts "HE IS RIGHT THERE"

[grim nacelle]

i am talking abt like 9 mm, 5.56, etc

[nova ice]

i just hope bf2042 has tic tac ufos

[soft kayak]

theyre not biodegradable. Theyre just painted green

[bleak nebula]

Lol

[tropic minnow]

my bad i fyou are in ssquad of 4 i just want to see the 3 fuking pings

[wheat yew]

The US army experimented with bullets that spew flower seeds after they're shot

[green breach]

They just call them green. Its to avoid lead poisining or something.

[wheat yew]

"Sir, do you think lead poisoning killed him?"
"No private, the bullets we riddled him with were green"

[nova ice]

the cia also put monet into mind control and remote viewing

can we trust a government like that?

yeah i know

but still

it was black magic even then

yet they funded it

pretty sure it was longer than 30 years ago though

more like the 60s and 70s

[arctic grove]

Tbh 2142 is better than infinite warfare

[nova ice]

maybe 80s at a push

[tropic minnow]

RUSIA , Chiina , México and Chille. They have 3 unique rare chemical weapons that other nations fear will use against them.

[nova ice]

i wish it was still the 90s

best music was in the 90s

[wheat yew]

So hey how about that game

Battlefield 2042

[mighty gyro]

we are all expecting some type of nuke in new bf right?

[tropic minnow]

maybe something llike that in BF 2042 would be awesome to ssee

[nova ice]

and the best games

[simple linden]

a lot of it is nostalgia

[nova ice]

nope

[green breach]

wonder what biologicle warfare china would use

[simple linden]

i mean it is

when i hear a song from 10 years ago, im like oh yea

[nova ice]

im replaying a lot of those games right now on my "retro handheld" i bought

[simple linden]

this shit was the best

[nova ice]

and having lots of fun

[tropic minnow]

i want another SUBWAY HYPER FRENETIC BATTLE like BF4

[green breach]

well russia an usa still exist as countries

[nova ice]

nostalgia holds up to a point, but when you can go back and appreciate those games and have fun with them again

[simple linden]

of course

[nova ice]

it just shows how bad gaming has become

[wheat yew]

I hope that we're going to get a large fully urban map at some point

[arctic grove]

[tropic minnow]

THAT IS WHY FASHION OF PRE ORDER PRE ORDER PRE ORDER PRE ORDER PRE ORDER . stremers who ssolld their opiniiion to the companiiies

[nova ice]

you didnt need skins, microtransactions, epic movie like storylines and cgi....you enjoyed being pulled into an adventure

[green breach]

I wonder when EU gets reformed around 2142

[simple linden]

isnt kaleidooscope mostly urban?

[arctic grove]

[nova ice]

last time i preordered a game, it was ocarina of time.....

and it was to make sure i got a copy

nothing else

[green breach]

it collapsed in 2042

[arctic grove]

its gonna be on ea play and its included with xbox game pass pc

[green breach]

not 2042

[dusk bronze]

https://zone-skins.com/2021/06/10/comparison-of-battlefield-2042-map-sizes-to-past-games-in-the-series/

[nova ice]

its never gonna go out of stock...so WHY PREORDER!!!!!!!

[arctic grove]

i read on a forum that it was confirmed but idk

[wheat yew]

In parts but I meant 'entirely' urban. Think Close Quarters from BF3 but on a huge scale; Grand Bazaar from BF3; the bazaar map from BF4

[nova ice]

and dont tell me cos early access

[green breach]

beta

[nova ice]

no

dont

it shouldnt even be a selling point

[dusk bronze]

hype😂

[green breach]

and steam does refunds no questions asked

[nova ice]

they want you rmoney early, so they can predict their income better

and youre stupid enough to fall for it

[simple linden]

ah you mean like full sweaty no room to breathe close quarters

[nova ice]

sorry, but thats true

[arctic grove]

What are the biggest takeaways from the dev stream?

[nova ice]

bf3 was the best bf

[wheat yew]

Preordering games from companies that repeatedly showed a lack of commitment to releasing products polished at launch is just bad practice

[nova ice]

yeah

[arctic grove]

bf3 singleplayer bad

[wheat yew]

E.g. I didn't preorder CP2077 but after that fiasco, I will definitely not preorder anything from CD Projekt Red

[nova ice]

but yay pretty trailer, take my money

[arctic grove]

haha invade desert country LAUGH we must LIBERATE THEM

[dusk bronze]

those people never learn...

[wheat yew]

Maybe it's just me though, I just don't preorder

I wait until sales

[nova ice]

no its me too

i dont wiat until sales

but im not gonna preorder

[wheat yew]

The last time I bought a game full price was Crusader Kings 3 because it got stellar reviews

[nova ice]

just out of principle

[green breach]

Preorder consoles not games Im guessing. Not removing my preorder though

[arctic grove]

For me it was Doom 2016

[nova ice]

preordering a digital product MAKES NO SENSE

[arctic grove]

I rarely get games full price, always get em off steam cheap

[wheat yew]

Not bad

[simple linden]

unless you plan on buying the game anyways

[wheat yew]

I use isthereanydeal dot com

[arctic grove]

got my moneys worth and it was a great game

[green breach]

well with switch games might as well preordder thye dont' go on sale often

[brittle canyon]

[nova ice]

people just fall into the trap of "OHHH I CAN PLAY IT EARLY IF I PREORDER, EARLY BETA"

[wheat yew]

I don't mind what site I get the game off of, as long as it enables on Steam and it's not a stolen key

[nova ice]

its not a beta

its a demo

[burnt swan]

lmao and it works everytime

[nova ice]

youre paying for a demo, a beta should ALWAYS BE FREE

[burnt swan]

sad

[simple linden]

i see it as a bonus, cuz i would buy the game at launch anyways

[brittle canyon]

Well i can play demo with my fren !!

[tropic minnow]

heheh siimple just x box gamepass for PC subs. 1 month and before end the subs cancel, and waiit 3 days and do the same hahah ALWAYS , YOUR WELCOME

[wheat yew]

I think it's totally in the interest of the welfare of the game for Betas to be free to everyone

[nova ice]

if you preorder youre literally paying to test the game for them

[brittle canyon]

[simple linden]

i only preorder games that im gonna play 100% at launch

[green breach]

Its my money i can do what i wish with it

[wheat yew]

Public betas are good for:

[arctic grove]

I mean playing the open beta is a fun moment of joy you get only once

I remember the BF4 public beta

[nova ice]

hahahha

[arctic grove]

it was amazing to play that after years of planetside 2

[nova ice]

"i only preorder games that im gonna play 100% at launch"

[wheat yew]

-Stress testing

• Introducing new players without demanding they put money up front
• Balance testing
• Mechanics testing

[arctic grove]

such a refreshing breath

[nova ice]

what is this logic

[burnt swan]

Plus dice hasnt shown any destruction gameplay yet just stuff getting blown up and disasters

[arctic grove]

then I never got it during launch and just remember that moment

[burnt swan]

we dont even know for sure if there is gonna be bf3/4 type of destruction yet

[green breach]

Pre alpha?

[nova ice]

you cant know youre gonna play it, you might not like it....there is literally no way of knowing

[mighty gyro]

there will be almost no distruction

[wheat yew]

I guess we shouldn't be surprised that EA monetises 'betas'

[green breach]

source?

[burnt swan]

like bfv smh

[simple linden]

whats the difference if i preorder or buy it at launch

[nova ice]

and also, what you said suggests people preorder games they arnt gonna play at launch

[dusk bronze]

instang gaming standart edition only 41 euro👍

[simple linden]

i know what im gonna play it

[mighty gyro]

amog use 2 snoppte

[tropic minnow]

LETS MAKE A BIG CAMPAING do not PRE ORDER .

[simple linden]

but those games come very rarely

[tropic minnow]

people have the POWER

[nova ice]

but they dont know @arctic grove

[mighty gyro]

.

[tropic minnow]

not companies

[nova ice]

there is no way of knowing

[nova idol]

Bro every fucking game does

[wheat yew]

Video games in general would be better off if preorders were frowned upon and demos were plentiful

[nova ice]

look how many people preordered bf4

and bf5

[nova idol]

Besides its open except for the few days of preorder early access

[simple linden]

i can tell you with all certainty that whenever the next GTA game comes out, i will play it on launch 100000%

[arctic grove]

will there be amongus in bf2042

sussy!

[mighty gyro]

because gta never had a bad title

[tropic minnow]

they are not smart people .

[simple linden]

GTA

[nova ice]

bf4 was unplayable for at least a year until they did the CTE and used it as a beta for future products

[wheat yew]

I'd assume I have ~2,000 in total for Battlefield franchise and I'm never preordering, especially not an EA game

[nova ice]

then bf5 just stank

[burnt swan]

oh yeah that game is an instant pre order

[brittle canyon]

Rockstar could been working on it without telling us

[green breach]

I havent been burnt by a Battleield game yet. And I avoided the bad ones

[wheat yew]

GTA 6

[burnt swan]

rockstar cant mess up single player games

[mighty gyro]

amogu us 2 is confirmed as bf2042 dlc: "Be The Imposter" dlc whereh u play as imposter specialist ability: team kill

[wheat yew]

Shh.

[arctic grove]

sus

[nova ice]

bf4, for most of its lifecycle, was a beta test

[simple linden]

but thanks for telling me how to spend my money Fraz

[bitter quartz]

[brittle canyon]

Cant wait for gta 2042

[simple linden]

im certain that i know myself a bit better than you knowing me

[wheat yew]

Battlefield 2042: Hardline

[dusk bronze]

https://www.instant-gaming.com/en/6690-buy-game-origin-battlefield-2042/

[green breach]

gta online heavy mtx left a sour taste in my mouth. Why im not as excited for the next one if we ever get one

[nova ice]

hardline was just filling a gap i think lol

[wheat yew]

Hardline was underappreciated

[brittle canyon]

Link

[wheat yew]

Even if it wasn't totally a 'Battlefield' game

[simple linden]

doesnt matter if they never made a bad GTA game, i will always be a fan of GTA

[nova ice]

seemed like a good idea...but it shouldnt have been a bf game

[brittle canyon]

Gta online getting lame

[green breach]

Hardline im guessing was like assasins creed odossy. good game but bad ac game

[wheat yew]

I think calling it a BF game created unrealistic expectations

[mighty gyro]

cuz rockstar did literally nothing for the players since 2013 but i still trust them. rdr2 was EPIC as well but players already forgot about it. they only made shitty gta online dlcs tho..

[nova ice]

if it wasnt a bf game, lets say, treyarch did that game

[wheat yew]

But I'd be totally up for another large-scale Cops Vs Robbers game

[nova ice]

people would praise it

[simple linden]

i can barely count on two hands how many games i preordered, and i played every single one of them at launch and enjoyed them

[wheat yew]

Between GTA and Payday 2, I feel like the 'criminal heist' genre doesn't see enough love

[green breach]

as long as its not sledghammer

[dusk bronze]

gta+payday=hardline😂

[worn whale]

I can’t wait for hardline 2

[brittle canyon]

Battlefield bad company 3

[wheat yew]

I would definitely enjoy Hardline 2, I think