#battlefield-2042

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idle lion
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if you play CoD or GTAV or CS your fine

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god forbid you try playing a BF game in any non-conquest mode

crystal basin
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Are people still playing this game because I have trouble to find new lobbies

naive ember
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Game died just like this server

crystal basin
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Is there a server list like in battlefield five?

crystal basin
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crazy because it’s older

naive ember
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Battlefield is dead in general

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Especially when you compare battlefield to how it was years ago

remote kiln
crystal basin
remote kiln
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crossplay on?

crystal basin
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Nope

remote kiln
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that's why you're not finding lobbies then

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with it off you'll only ever match with those who have it off

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everyone else won't be included

crystal basin
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That’s disappointing. PC gamers have obviously better aiming opportunity

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Or am I wrong?

remote kiln
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well you're not exactly correct because you can use controller on pc aswell

crystal basin
crystal basin
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Looks like I don’t have much choice

remote kiln
crystal basin
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OK, I will give it a try. Thank you

remote kiln
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no worries

obsidian tide
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Later messages expressing disdain may have been censored.

obsidian tide
# crystal basin Nope

Therein lies the issue. With Crossplay Off, it does not just restrict lobbies to platform-only, It may also restrict them to anyone who also only has Crossplay Off set.

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And all populated lobbies are mixed-platform Crossplay On ones.

gilded lava
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I also whining about it for a few days so it shouldn't be the case

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But also I didn't cuss to them

obsidian tide
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Profane phrasing, even if used to intensify and more directly express strong senses in speaking, is still censorable in this place due to being profane.

gilded lava
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Good thing that base [CENSORED] doesn't trigger it

remote kiln
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they left the server, nothing of value lost

vocal tusk
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They probably have profile set to private. Strikes me as the type

remote kiln
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ah yeah nvm discord caching shenanigans

vocal tusk
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Private profile > feels like they can say whatever they want, with no consequences > any action against them is outrageous.

the type in question

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This is not the place to talk about it

low cloud
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sry dude I totally forgot to switch channels

pine roost
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There isn’t a channel in this server to discuss it either

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That labs channel isn’t about the actual tests

gloomy wyvern
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Why am I being punished EA?

obsidian tide
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Have you encountered the Secure Boot check?

gloomy wyvern
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Why do I get put with people or in lobbies that are plagued with aimbot when I myself don't use aimbot. Just cuz I get 40 some kills or 30 or more revives doesn't mean I need to be placed in lobbies with people that use literal aimbot.

I'm down to prove headshots in this game do not work in the same degree for me as they do others

gloomy wyvern
obsidian tide
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That was typed as a presumption before the rest was posted.

gloomy wyvern
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Looks like I got a step away from the game for another 12 months or so so that I can go back to not being queued with aimbot

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Again I'm down to prove that headshots in this game do not work for me as they do others

vocal tusk
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Are you still playing on Xbox under the username MyTightyWhiteys

gloomy wyvern
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No, I changed my name

pearl mesa
vocal tusk
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Cos your stats there looked pretty bad, which could explain why others seem so good

gloomy wyvern
vocal tusk
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Im good

gloomy wyvern
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No you're saying my stats are shit yet I have maintained top 1% for medic

pearl mesa
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I often encounter the same people in lobbies, and if not, it’d because i just got put into a lobby full of AI and ten other humans.

gloomy wyvern
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And just last night I was up there with harm getting 40 plus kills

vocal tusk
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40 kills with no other context is not all that impressive.

pearl mesa
vocal tusk
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Post your updated name and stats in #stats if you want to share tho. then message link

gloomy wyvern
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I don't even remember my stats

vocal tusk
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Whats your new name?

gloomy wyvern
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It's a private profile

naive ember
tame patrol
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"theyre just better"

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"they have better gaming chairs"

chilly jacinth
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There's no SBMM anyways

rain violet
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Plus this late in the majority playing probably are into 1k hours or more

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Makes sense you'd see more competent players late into a game's life.

leaden temple
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80% of my lobbies of late have been level 20-40, guessing from steam sale + gamepass

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which is even worse than a lobby of sweats when it comes to bf

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just endless javelin tones

rain violet
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I fear the low levels more because eventually one of them is just going to beam me with a 60% HS accuracy PKP.

chilly jacinth
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Feels like the servers have been real ass recently tbh

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like desync and insta deaths

olive stag
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yea

gilded lava
gloomy wyvern
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There should be awareness made about these HIDs — which, if you didn’t know, were the reason back then you started noticing your inputs weren’t being recognized or ignored. It wasn’t you. It wasn’t lag. It wasn't even your controller, keyboard or mouse. It was developers attempting to push back against them until too many people were complaining about it.

It's crazy people are willing to spend, as my name says, over $100 for some shit like this

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These HIDs seem to have conveniently been forgotten by the community and I honestly don't know how or why

gloomy wyvern
# gilded lava What do you mean

I can't speak of them specifically because then I would be violating the rules regarding cheats and such however I will go as far as say that these devices, are advertised as modding devices. Conveniently in the same listings for them the manufacturers, boast the capability of aimbot while announcing that the devices are mods and not cheats despite the list of capabilities that regardless of relation or how you paint the picture are cheats

gilded lava
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Oh those devices

gloomy wyvern
rain violet
smoky dew
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Hi! I hope you're doing well.
Would it be possible to consider bringing back the 64x64 Chaos Breakthrough mode as a permanent playlist? It offers a much more dynamic and intense experience compared to the current Control mode, which many players (myself included) find a bit dull.

Thanks in advance for considering the feedback!

ancient hemlock
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I’ve been playing this game pretty much exclusively for the last 2-3 months and have yet to run into anybody I think is hacking.

As a cherry on top, this isn’t a competitive game with a lot of attention, so the odds of someone cheating on it compared to games like Apex or Warzone is tiny.

I think some of you just need to realize there’s better players than you out there in 99% of circumstances.

tepid niche
random path
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so no friends list update for ppc?

abstract night
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I mean I’m pretty sure that whole safe boot controversy has a lot to do with trying to stop cheaters but alright

idle lion
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you are effectively hurting only the normal customer base as cheaters that want to buy stuff can always buy an additional tool that fakes the PID/VID to be that off another recognized device

pulsar lagoon
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meine fresse, dachte dass die cheats endlich ein ende haben aber ne ist sogar schlimmer geworden

brittle wind
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2042 servers down?

lavish verge
orchid tusk
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i mean really. a 5 button mouse is all we can use now? gtfoh. what year is this?

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i mean they are soooooooo expensive 🙄

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hey, why is the deploy screen all of a sudden running like burning trash (but not the rest of the game)? lol.,

mighty sonnet
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Looking for people to run conquest with on us servers. Anyone down?

sharp musk
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WHY did BF3 Mon Ami portal playlist go away? 😭 absolutely goated

ionic shuttle
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🇺🇸😡 vs 😡🇷🇺

abstract night
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mohammed amine21

red viper
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mohammed amine21

vital quail
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im surprised he hasnt been muted with all the nonsense he repeatedly posts in the fnb channel

gilded lava
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Makes the people like BIOS is evil shouldn't be affected by it

misty pewter
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the point was that it renders secureboot completely ineffective

gilded lava
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Like any other security measures in the feature

fresh grail
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Worked on my machine

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Even 3 new mobos

swift matrix
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Anybody on 2042 with a mic want to group up?

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PS5

gilded lava
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"Why are they enforcing a thing that also vulnerable"

idle lion
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👏

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amazing, cant farjing play 2042 because its freezing every 5 seconds for 5 seconds after installing new gpu drivers

idle lion
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AMD

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and this isnt the first time this has happened

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every single new driver update the stupid ass game deletes ios entire shader cache(assumption) making the PC rhave to re render/compile everything

obsidian tide
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Here is the compiled guide so far, @chrome fern .

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Use only if you cannot pass the Secure Boot check by default.

idle lion
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but i cant find th 2042 folder

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i only have
Battlefield V
BattlefieldGameData.CH1-qol.Win32
BattlefieldGameData.kin-live.Win32
BattlefieldGameData.kin-release.Win32

vital quail
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casper in my squad set up his beacon but there isn't even any room to spawn on it

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smartest recon player fr

wooden wharf
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any squads need one in bf 2042??

idle lion
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my experience with 2042 after every driver update^

gilded lava
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I would say time to switch Nvidia but then I remember they're greedy af

idle lion
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its not even an AMD problem, if it was it wouldnt only be happening ONLY in 2042, its a 2042 problem cause they can not be bothered to upgrade a part of their shader pipeline.

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i havent had this issue happen not even in a single other game.

gilded lava
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I would also suggest not updating your driver's but then I remember windows update also updates the drivers and those are worse

obsidian tide
vocal tusk
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The stutters are far less of an issue on Nvidia tho, as those cards have better async caching.

obsidian tide
# idle lion its not even an AMD problem, if it was it wouldnt only be happening ONLY in 2042...

AMD originally marked that multiple Frostbite engine and Battlefield games suffered from stutters and rendering artifact issues as of 25.4.1-25.5.1's Known Issues sections. However, it would also not be surprising if the most recent game update added even more internal brokenness to this which is interfering.

Also, DirectX12 games will always JIT compile shaders. Whether set to do it up-front, or actively doing it as an asset is streamed in. That is part of the selling point of the API version. However, it also invites things like developers managing to write the pipeline manually and in a bad way more than DirectX 11.

vocal tusk
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Reason number 468 why I avoid AMD Radeon

obsidian tide
vocal tusk
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Mostly hyberbole, but too many issues like these, average drivers, rushed features, poor software suite, ETC

obsidian tide
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(Tried to be a global NVIDIA Reflex ULL setting. Infamously tripped anti-cheat if enabled. May have been retired in favor of reimplementing parts of what it did well into FSR4.)

elder monolith
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since its impossible to disable dxnavi on newer cards I do not upgrade my 6800 xt

gilded lava
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so I'm not sure but I think eac doesn't like GoodbyeDPI

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yup

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I have to boot the game first then open GoodbyeDPI

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so all this time

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I just have to not use the thing till I open the game

bright forum
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Lol^

obsidian tide
gilded lava
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but also not telling anything about it

remote kiln
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it is in effect a proxy so yeah not surprising

gilded lava
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but why don't you warn the player about it

remote kiln
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the anticheat doesnt warn users about banned programs like rewasd etc

misty ether
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Remember Mantle?

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AMD remembers Mantle

obsidian tide
gilded lava
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why not for eac

vocal tusk
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Realistically, as a piece of software intended for end users, it should fail to launch the game, and pop a warning displaying the name of anything it has detected as the reason for that.

misty ether
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Succeeded by Javelin AntiCheat.

gilded lava
quick mountain
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Can't find a match for hazard zone on ps4 edition.

chilly jacinth
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It's a dead mode

vital quail
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With it being added to ps plus im sure there will be a boost in people to play it

inner ether
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How do so many people get into a Wildcat and then ignore air?

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I see so many Wildcats having helicopters literally fly over them back and forth without a reaction

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I see air freely destroying vehicles and farming infantry, and Wildcats are just sitting there going durrrrrrrrr

vital quail
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Because people suck

inner ether
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I get not being good at stuff but this goes so far beyond that

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You literally just have to aim and shoot, the helicopter is passing over you, this is why you are in a Wildcat

vital quail
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Along with recons, I kick every squadmate that spawns into a wildcat

inner ether
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It's like going into your shower to do the dishes

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This is why I rack up so many kills when I'm in a Wildcat

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People don't seem to be prepared for it

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Lately I've been topping teams repeatedly on the scoreboard and I've no idea how I manage it. I'm not THAT good of a player

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They lack basic awareness. It's like they aren't even paying attention to the game at all

olive holly
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how come in hour glass with 128 players the stadium isnt included

obsidian tide
obsidian tide
rain violet
abstract lagoon
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Any updates on fixing Lis rocket launcher in solo breakthrough and conquer? Since we got the fixes in multiplayer then why not sync the changes?

vocal tusk
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It probably won't ever be fixed

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It's an avoidable issue by just using portal instead of solo and coop

abstract night
vocal tusk
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Good to see how effective this new EA Mod bot is. 😅

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Mod bot be like: Thinking... DM message "Thank you for your report, but no action was taken."

vital quail
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Mods sleeping

karmic oasis
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i always hate when my bipod has to reset everytime i die :/

visual mantle
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all this commotion and chaos thanks to loser low life hackers who hack the game and we are foced to pay the price

pine roost
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They’ll sit there, engage with lock ons and complain about the wildlcar doing no damage

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And to think it used to not be a dedicated AA and people could choose not to use its AA guns

inner ether
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Yeah all they seem to do is wait for lock-ons all the time even if air is hovering above them in plain sight

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Unless more than one air vehicle coordinates against me, I will not die to them

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That said, when do coordinate it's frustrating...

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But then I have 1300 hours in this game

pine roost
inner ether
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Just gotta wait until they are in range enough that they will not have time to flee

vocal tusk
inner ether
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Too many people are much too passive in this game

vocal tusk
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The maps are garbage for vehicles and 75% of the specialists are able to solo tanks. So it's to be expected

inner ether
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Know the maps, know the strengths and weaknesses of your vehicle, be mobile

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Have a care about what's going on around you

vocal tusk
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What's your username?

gaunt cliff
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ok i am new to the game so can some one please explain to me dudes that jump 360 out of the winidow and head shot you with SMG from 40 - 50 m like they were waiting with for you... while you cant hit shit with AR on that same distance...

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like on last Capture there was xXx999xXx dude who solo all 24 of us... he was hitting from insane distance with some small like handgun shit and murdered us through smoke... we didnt have a chance?

terse wind
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social and party system is down?

blissful isle
gaunt cliff
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i would just like to understand if this game is worth investing time or its full of crap like that... good thing i got it on sales for 5e

blissful isle
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i do like the game but i am sure people with aim bot and shit like cod but i will say i have hit some interesting shots my self lol

solemn girder
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If anyone needs 1 for some games add me. PSN is same as name on here

thorny bluff
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Friends still broken.....

solemn girder
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Add in game with EA?

blissful isle
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THEFOOTLONG254 is mine

trim glacier
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Is maybe someone on right now ?

blissful isle
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i will be here in a few \

ruby sluice
thorny bluff
ruby sluice
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works normal. just invited a friend to party and joined a game

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restart ea app

solemn girder
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Im on get at me

blissful isle
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jumping on

idle lion
gleaming rapids
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Anyone else not receiving the EA Play Battlefield 2042 cosmetic rewards? I have Steam which launches BF2042 and then opens the EA app. I never receive the cosmetic rewards.

indigo ruin
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Give it some time

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And you’ll enjoy it urself

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I also recommend u find a good portal server with bots…and practice with them along with other players

trim glacier
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Or just play ko op

obsidian tide
rocky gust
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Yeah 2042 is really good game if you’ve never played a game before or have zero standards

red viper
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it's a solid 5 or 6 out of 10 video game

leaden temple
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I do enjoy 1 out of 10 games, true

rocky gust
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5 is being generous enough lol

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It loses at least 5 points alone for having broken engine level issues

leaden temple
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I do appreciate little things like 4 of 5 aim sensitivies being integers and the 5th being decimal, for absoutely no reason, 5 years in

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and the three times in one game alone today that I exited my LTAV and the C5 switched to primary gun before I could jihad

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which is 100% because of no toggle to disable autoswitch on no ammo.. 5 years in

leaden temple
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not to mention the CTD every 5-10 games with a random directx error

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finally I do love getting lag comp punished for having good internet, nothing like getting shot behind cover 50% of the time by VPNing people from halfway across the globe because I have 5ms ping

rocky gust
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Oh also, some of the worst hit reg i have ever seen

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40 shots hit and 9 does not register

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Amazing game truly

abstract night
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“It’s a good game” like according to what exactly

leaden temple
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addendum: now that it's 3.99, finding random level 10 blueberries laying down with an LMG in the WEIRDEST PLACES that then aim assist your face

abstract night
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This channel is basically constantly a bug fixing channel or people are talking about the balance or a cheater

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“It’s good now” yeah okay lol

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I really don’t know why people feel the need to defend this type of quality coming from multi billion dollar publishers

leaden temple
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I get that it sucked at launch, but 5 years in you should fix fundamental problems

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I have zero apps, zero games, nothing that crashes.. I've updated/downgraded drivers, BIOS, timings, etc. 2042 just crashed again while I wrote this

rocky gust
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You should not have issues launching the game, or playing in general

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The design is something else to shit on entirely

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An FPS game where I cannot RELIABLY know that my shots hit will kill an enemy, broken mouse input and bugged recoil

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Like are you fucking kidding me? Good game?

leaden temple
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(mind you, a 7950X3D and 4090, it's not capability related)

vague torrent
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i have a question if someone could help me plz

leaden temple
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I have 10gbit internet and the best rig possible, which means I get penalized for little billy ten thumbs to aim assist my face while he eats hot pockets

vague torrent
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i want a new game to play with my friends. something other than rivals and fortnite. i’ve never played battlefield 4 but i love watching videos of the random fun craziness. sending 4 wheelers flying. smashing jets into the ground. just doing wild fun shit with your friends. can you still experience this wonder on 2042. like i saw you can starch c5 to casper’s drone and smash it into a tank to kill it. thats funny to do with your friends

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*attach

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things like this though. is that still possible?i know it used to be a buggy game

abstract night
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They nerfed the c5 method so no you can’t

rocky gust
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It is still a mess of a game

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Buy the game if you want some shitty fun

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Only on sale

abstract night
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Most of 2042s “silliness” is just the specialists

rocky gust
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Never buy this garbage at full price

abstract night
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There’s no way it’s anything else

indigo ruin
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why are u even here if this game is garbage

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🤣

rocky gust
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Because i want the franchise to do better?

indigo ruin
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i see i see

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bf 6 looking dope though

abstract night
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It’s already looking miles ahead of 2042 at least as far as not having specialists goes

rocky gust
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If you enjoy the game thats fine. But i just want to make sure you guys dont lower your standards because you as a player deserve way more for your money

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If i just didn’t give a fuck about this game id never even complain

indigo ruin
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i bought the game on sale for 30 bucks on epic games store around 2022. but i didnt play it until a few months ago.

rocky gust
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Its a franchise i grew up with in every sense of the word and I hate watching it go down to all hell

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The magic of what BC2 gave me introduced me to this franchise

indigo ruin
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I LOVE BC2

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so much teamwork

leaden temple
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even just spawning into the stupid game is difficult because all the boxes overlay each other

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who the f designed this game

abstract night
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For some reason people assume that every battlefield game is good exactly 2 years after launch because it was observed 1 time with BFV

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And even BFV didn’t end up being that great

indigo ruin
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but seriously

leaden temple
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can't repair a vehicle or switch weapons because a blueberry will steal it and drive straight onto the obj and bail

indigo ruin
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im really enjoying this game

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im like 300+ hours in

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🤣

abstract night
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I racked up like 400 hours into 2042 so I’m not just blindly hating the game myself either

indigo ruin
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it does have its flaws though

abstract night
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I actually preordered the game and was here all throughout 2021 to this point debating and discussing all types of stuff

leaden temple
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engineers laying on your 20% health vehicle sniping

abstract night
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I personally think it would’ve been miles better if it just didn’t have specialists alone. My standards aren’t very high, I just want a game that looks immersive

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I would’ve loved a game without specialists but with 128 and dynamic weather events like bro hell yeah

leaden temple
indigo ruin
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some people spam that shit

leaden temple
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yeah, you can tell the COD kiddies that are slide cancelling around everywhere at warp speed

indigo ruin
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ya LOL

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lol warp speed

leaden temple
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just addyed out of their minds with modded controllers and macro configs to control recoil

indigo ruin
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it kills me EVERY single time.

rocky gust
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Its not that hard to counter with a but of tracking practice

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Only problem is theres no pre animation that helps me determine whether theyll move like it

abstract night
leaden temple
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with bf I'm not expecting a jump 360 off a three story building to be able to hit smg headshots from 50m+

abstract night
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I hate “skill gap movement” and that needs to die altogether in FPS

leaden temple
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but that is how 2042 works

rocky gust
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Movement is another part of fps that creates depth

leaden temple
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I loved movement in apex, until aim assist greed to sell skins also ruined it

indigo ruin
leaden temple
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but bf I play not for movement but mixed mode war

indigo ruin
rocky gust
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Theres a lot to consider but

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If this game had clunky ass bot movement like bf1

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It would have been 20X worse

abstract night
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BF1 movement good

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If BF1 just got rid of the slide (because it was useless anyways) and fixed the vaulting bug, 10/10 movement

leaden temple
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even bf4 had some movement tech, but 2042 is just rewarding children to deathball straight at every red dot they see as long as they run configs and spam their modded controllers with RAA

abstract night
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And MAYBE then I’d consider conceding on bunny hopping or something

indigo ruin
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i set mine to 12 i think

rocky gust
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For 2042 24 at 1600dpi

indigo ruin
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oh ok

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gotcha

rocky gust
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Not exactly a low sens player lol

abstract night
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I would prefer FPS have depth in mechanics like balancing or gunplay or whatever. All ‘movement’ is doing is creating an environment where you spam slide to win and it’s making gameplay exhausting

leaden temple
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the only gunplay in 2042 is superbullets killing you in 10ms from a lag enhanced weirdo

indigo ruin
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im gonna be honest here, i actually care about my k/d ratio. and facing people that are running arouund in warp speed just tanks my k/d lol

abstract night
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Yeah 2042 gun play is garbage

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That’s why I’m unironically a supporter of gunsmith in BF. We need depth in the mechanics and customization and it’s always been subpar to CoD in recent times

leaden temple
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(don't get me started on the Wall of Snipers and "tank hunters", that's just a bf thing)

acoustic seal
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at least not bf "players"

indigo ruin
abstract night
acoustic seal
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we had bursting, to a bit of an extreme degree in bf4

abstract night
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I feel like they could technically keep the plus system but only allow you to change attachments on the fly at like objectives or something

rocky gust
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Plus menu was a good idea at heart but terrible execution

abstract night
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That way you can’t just instantly adapt your gun for 95% of combat ranges

indigo ruin
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thats a good idea

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like a resupply station or something

acoustic seal
abstract night
rocky gust
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Kit switching got nerfed so much over the years

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OGs remember bad company2 kit switch killing montages filmed on a nokia

indigo ruin
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EPIC

rocky gust
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Another level of depth removed from the game

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Do you see this weird issue where cod needs to start innovating, and for battlefield to stop “innovating”

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We need to change the dev team just a bit

abstract night
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I feel like CoD realizes that “innovation” is overrated

indigo ruin
abstract night
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I mean they occasionally do something new, like with war zone, but they’ve stuck to their formula well for a long time

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BF is the one that needs to stop trying to change every games core design ‘just cuz’

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CoD continues to succeed because it doesn’t switch up too much. It kinda mastered its own formula. What does innovation matter for BF when the last 2 games were dog water

leaden temple
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they made WZ insanely complex, then backed off it (and brought back verdansk, lol)

rocky gust
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All i can say is unless they put in about 3x the effort rn than they place into bf labs

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The game wont be all that

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For an alpha playtest, it was good but…

indigo ruin
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oh u played the alpha?

abstract night
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If you did you didn’t

leaden temple
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I heard that some people said that the alpha was visually stunning but almost too chaotic

acoustic seal
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they kinda made their bed with bf1 and have to appeal to an entire gen of people who are allergic to any game complexity beyond pointing and spraying within your weapon's designated (heavily compressed) range

rocky gust
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I wanted to test the “survey” and see what kind of things really affect the pickrate if any

rain violet
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From what I've seen of the alpha leaks I'm currently less optimistic unless they make sweeping changes. Movement looks scuffed and not only heavily reduced but also far more penalized, and the TTK looks so fast you'll run into significant issues. Just seems like they want BF for boomers.

abstract night
#

That’s all a man asks for in life

leaden temple
#

yup! I definintely would agree with those people if I saw what they said they saw

rocky gust
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I applied one with honest facts

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And another with bogus crap

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The bogus crap account

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Got accepted

indigo ruin
#

is ur name a kdrama?

rocky gust
#

They definitely have preferences for a certain group of players

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I would fucking hope not

abstract night
indigo ruin
#

nvm lol

abstract night
#

I mean I certainly prefer BF sticks to its traditional gameplay

indigo ruin
#

i was shocked when i heard bf 2042 didnt come with classes when it was first released

rocky gust
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The whole overkill perk being an assault kit is

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Really concerning though

rocky gust
#

Way too strong

red viper
#

it's the most skib battlefield game

ocean arrow
#

you guys want to get in a game?

abstract night
#

No but I’ve seen zoozoo

ocean arrow
#

join general

rocky gust
#

Zouzou mouzou vouzou

abstract night
#

In reality zoozoo isn’t that common, or well maybe it is idk. They prolly bled out everyone that didn’t “adapt bro”

red viper
#

even basic jumping and airstrafing is like

indigo ruin
#

🤣

abstract night
#

I must admit I’m definitely that guy when it comes to the movement topic, but only because I think BF works best when it focuses on being a military themed sandbox instead of trying to appeal to comp and CoD players

indigo ruin
#

also my human k/d is garbage. its like 0.65

rocky gust
#

Also take into account that having a skill gap is important for longevity of a game

leaden temple
#

and no prox chat in vehicles! that would have been a game changer

rocky gust
#

Movement is a key factor

abstract night
#

I think it’s the opposite

acoustic seal
abstract night
#

BF4 has bled out everyone that isn’t “adapting” to flying around the map

indigo ruin
rocky gust
#

If people cant kill someone that is strafing left right or crouch bouncing

leaden temple
#

nah, movement is a shortcut to making people feel like they mastered a map, or flow, or strat

rocky gust
#

Ofc it shouldn’t be outlandish

indigo ruin
abstract night
#

BF4 air vehicles are pretty much exclusively played by the dude who ends up going 125-2 because the ‘skill gap’ is so ridiculously large that no regular player can reasonably learn it at this point so nobody even tries to

rocky gust
#

But there needs to be an effective way for skilled players to express themselves or outmaneuver

leaden temple
#

yeah, learn the map and use cover 🙂

abstract night
#

That’s basically me lol but not in a way where I throw the game for the team

rocky gust
abstract night
#

Like I’ll still play objectives but I like to larp with tactical loadouts n stuff

rocky gust
#

Movement is a secondary form of expression. Good players dont just run around aimlessly into shit without a course in mind

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Good positioning and awareness gets you far

abstract night
#

I feel like that can compensate for a lack of movement though is just learning positioning and stuff which is bound to happen the more you play a game

rocky gust
#

Ive seen plenty of good players that outperform “movement players” through map positioning and awareness

acoustic seal
#

imo bf needs to cut and run from the "real battlefield" combined arms thing and just drill down on the infantry fps part to have any future, combined arms has been done to death and was unlikeable in pretty much every iteration

leaden temple
#

apex, for a long time, had movement, but good strategic players would ALWAYS outplay the crackhead kids.. until a season or two ago when they nerfed the ttk to oblivion to "fix" that

rocky gust
#

Hence why apex is shit

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Good game ruined by shit decisions

indigo ruin
abstract night
leaden temple
#

yeah, I finally quit then.. I even have some heirloom shards sitting around unspent and idgaf

leaden temple
abstract night
#

BF can just make more infantry only maps they don’t have to structure the entire game around just infantry

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Problem is DICE doesn’t know how to make infantry maps anymore

rocky gust
#

Funny thing about cod is

rocky gust
#

The game plays way better after a year, with the sbmm loosened

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But you know, people can cope that sbmm helps games

abstract night
#

It’s a necessary evil in my opinion

leaden temple
#

COD is pretty clearly a controller game at this point, I didn't bother with BO6

rocky gust
#

Didnt need sbmm to play bfbc2 to 2042 for literally thousands of hours

abstract night
#

This isn’t the 2000s anymore where most players are on average kinda bad. Most FPS players have been playing FPS for at least a decade or longer so how do you onboard new players

rocky gust
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Random engagements are what makes the game fun

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you stomp games, you get stomped games

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Variations

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Different levels of players

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Learning from better players with positioning and awareness

abstract night
#

And btw I totally agree that SBMM sucks but at the same time I do think the process for onboarding new players is in question if we just say “delete sbmm”

leaden temple
#

my fundmental issue with 2042 is no server browser. if I could pick a server or two that I knew had good players with fun attitudes, none of the bugs would really truly be an issue

ancient hemlock
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Skill issue

leaden temple
#

no casual SBMM

red viper
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especially the nu-CoDs

leaden temple
#

you onboard by dying a lot

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sucks

rocky gust
#

In a proper ranked game SBMM is fine

acoustic seal
#

who are we even trying to attract with sbmm bubbles? people who don't like shooters and will leave at the first sign of resistance?

leaden temple
#

but you learn

acoustic seal
#

fuck em honestly

rocky gust
#

Not every game needs to cater to everyone

red viper
#

getting rinsed is the only way you'll learn

rocky gust
#

Its the fucking dumbest idea

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I got my shit rocked in cod lobbies and bf lobbies as a kid

abstract night
#

I mean CoD has always boasted about how it’s “the best selling game on Playstation” even long before SBMM so I think the issue is just about money

rocky gust
#

So you learn shit

abstract night
#

Like unfortunately SBMM creates a bubble of literally millions of cash cows who enjoy the experience catering to their (lack of) skill

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So it’s never going away

rocky gust
#

Instead of the game artificially fucking with my gameplay experience

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Like delta force

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Had such a good opportunity to succeed

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Yet riddled with horrible decisions

leaden temple
#

even with SBMM the best outcome would be everyone having a 1KD, which is asnine and doesn't achieve the goal of little timmy ten thumbs rocking a lobby and buying more skins with his mom's credit card on first launch

ancient hemlock
#

2042 just has match leveling. Tried to equal the skill base between the two teams so ones not completely stacked. It works most of the time .lol

rocky gust
#

Definitely less “lopsided” games for sure

leaden temple
#

unless you get even a single squad with comms which then will ROLL the lobby

rocky gust
#

In cod its either i get stomped or stomp on just some poor dude who worked overnight, trying to relax and have a beer while gaming

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It just doesn’t feel fun

ancient hemlock
#

I never get put on the same team as the other sweats. Makes me sad but it's understandable.

abstract night
#

Like that’s another component of it

rocky gust
#

Basement creatures or hard working dads

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Thats my opponent

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No inbetween

abstract night
#

People who wanna just relax and game honestly can’t do it with the state of modern gaming

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Which is obsessed with minmaxing damn near everything

rocky gust
#

Hence why battle passes and tier skips in cod are a thing

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To milk every bit of money or playtime

red viper
abstract night
#

I agree that it kinda is as simple as “git gud” for most players and I’m not even that old myself but even I sometimes just wanna chill after work and I can’t because some dude is clipping breaking my camera for his TikTok video that’s going to get like 200 views

abstract night
rocky gust
#

lmao like those shittok edits with like maybe 10 kills and shitty music?

abstract night
#

Tbhfamyeah

leaden temple
#

yeah, social media is also a huge part of FPS gaming being awful in 2025

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just give me my unreal tournament and a dialup, man

#

vertical crop clip "compliations" make me irrationally angry

rocky gust
#

idk these tiktok edits are p bad but

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We forgot about loot box opening edits huh

leaden temple
#

I hate you (edit: /s)

ocean arrow
#

/)*

ionic prismBOT
# ocean arrow /)*
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)\* is not a valid command.

Use the help command to see the list of all commands.

placid echo
obsidian tide
obsidian tide
obsidian tide
obsidian tide
obsidian tide
obsidian tide
obsidian tide
#

SBMM was Server Ban Matchmaking then.

idle lion
#

best way to play 2042 Breakthrough as attacker is to just outflank the defending snipers and perform devious bshots point blank on them

vocal tusk
#

Id like a ranked mode/matchmaking for a ranked system like seen in Overwatch 1. But I think "Ranking" would only work for specific modes (Like Squad Rush)

  • Each "season" your rank resets, or returns to a median rank you held for the previous season
  • Play 15 rounds to attain your "tier rank" (Tier rank is based on wins, losses, captures, SPM, K/D, ETC)
  • Your rank is always visible to you (Giving you something to "work" towards)
  • Your next 15 "ranked" games are played against players in the same rank as you (Ranked modes would have matchmaking pools consisting players assigned to these different ranks)
  • Every 15 games your rank changes (To a higher, lower rank or stays the same) depending on your performance
  • Repeat
tulip grove
#

@tacit bison lol blackout

vocal tusk
#

Post your player name

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Yeah

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Cool. Decent stats, lower than expected win/loss ratio

hearty yarrow
#

Does anyone play 2042 on a steamdeck or pc with controller

vocal tusk
#

2042 doesnt work native on the steamdeck

remote kiln
#

work at all* without installing windows

gilded lava
remote kiln
hearty yarrow
#

Streaming from pc to steamdeck

abstract lagoon
dusty flare
#

Hey! I'm looking for a teammate to fly together in the AH-64GX (Attack Helicopter) on Battlefield 2042.

I can be either the pilot or the gunner – up to you.

Platform: PC
Mic: Yes
Experience: Medium/High
Availability: Evenings (CET)

I'm looking for someone chill but coordinated, to grind mastery and have fun.
Add me on EA: [your EA ID]

gleaming rapids
obsidian tide
gilded lava
remote kiln
gilded lava
#

Also way plausible than installing windows on the steam deck

gilded lava
#

is it only me that BF 2042 plays the older era end musics on normal 2042 matches

grave silo
#

are you a spam bot ? you posted that same message in nearly every channel you could

abstract night
#

Its just a meme at this point

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Like how is it this bad

#

Do that many people still click on sus links lol

obsidian tide
obsidian tide
#

In other news, there is willingness to deal with Secure Boot Mandate cases if it helps successfully enable it for a few more users.

gilded lava
#

if it's bf 3 map it plays solomons theme if its bf2 it plays that theme etc

obsidian tide
pale kindle
#

good very good ea 👏 secure boot to play a game !!!! discussing decisions

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many my friends cannot play now

obsidian tide
pale kindle
#

all of people who cannot play anymore in bf2042

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no everyone had new pc

obsidian tide
#

What languages do I need to translate this into?

pale kindle
#

on in bios but system shows off sad this is sad

obsidian tide
pale kindle
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question is why ? this update add this option

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sad 😔

quasi elbow
#

👋

remote kiln
vital quail
#

We’re regularly looking at item popularity, equip rates, and feedback on what you’d like to see return

Can't wait to see boris and casper skins everywhere

obsidian tide
# pale kindle sad 😔

Official statement claimed it was to reduce cheating.

The more likely reason is to limit OS support to Late Windows 10 and Windows 11, as well as to make it harder for Linux users who deal in cheat development to test them.

obsidian tide
gilded lava
#

is uninstalling the game necessary

obsidian tide
gilded lava
#

I think reinstalling EAC can deal with that actually

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not sure tho

obsidian tide
fast lotus
#

Is anyone looking for a teammate rn

pulsar lagoon
#

EA ihr seid soooooo extrem scheisse

sharp torrent
#

salut des francais pour jouer a bf v ?

rocky gust
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Heil hi

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Relax angry german boy

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Please use english here as that is the main language used for communication

obsidian tide
#

Are you also affected?

heady ridge
#

I'm avoiding the game 😅

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I'll wait for the dust to settle

obsidian tide
#

What, in case the check is not passed, or out of spite and hoping it is undone?

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Presumably the latter.

solemn girder
#

If anyone needs 1 add me on EA or PS. Same tag as on here

heady ridge
#

No spite, just not going down that rabbit hole to play a game

bright swallow
#

if i missed the last beta am i cooked?

torpid sky
#

Is it possible to find matches with cross play off? Asking for a friend

vital quail
#

full matches? probably not

blissful isle
#

were do i find the update sorry stupid to ask still new to pc and this

meager shell
#

lol that reddit thread is hilarious. this isnt too hard to fix unless you formatted your windows hard drive the wrong way. took me about 15 seconds

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so many people afraid of their bios when you should at least know how to do basic things like this

indigo ruin
indigo ruin
#

easy peezy

meager shell
#

had to find the delete key on your 60% keyboard?

past haven
#

Anyone want to squad up?

obsidian tide
#

The guide, @icy bough .

magic echo
#

do we have a code for the zombies mode they did event on a few weeks back?

sage drift
#

youre not him lil bro

obsidian tide
#

EA isn't going to be, and it will not stop efforts to try.

#

Also, checking Steam Reviews for Battlefield 2042 reveals that the Recent Reviews ratio has spiked from Mixed to Mostly Negative status. Out of 2,387 reviews marked as Recent, 38% or about 907 of them were Recommended. 1,479 of those reviews are Not Recommended.

fickle wharf
#

Might be due to the secure boot

obsidian tide
#

Likely.

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Also, Steam Client Beta build seems to be more stable than the Stable version at this time, compounding a few things.

brittle wind
#

Or S7

full burrow
#

wahst secure boot?

sleek verge
outer eagle
#

good morning

#

any ideas on the social issue were having

arctic owl
#

Cross play on

heady ridge
#

The game just crashes constantly after having zero issues in previous patches. I gave it a try to check it out

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This is in game and at the menu

#

Seems to be completely random sometimes after a while and other times almost immediately

#

It was a fresh install 🫠

dusk falcon
#

DICE IF YOU CAN HEAR ME GIVE US A HINT FOR THE PHANTOM PROGRAM EASTER EGG

#

WERE STUCK SO HARD

#

WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO

#

HELP US

young jewel
#

Player removed from game error's strike yet again

#

Gotta love wasting 30 second's of your life loading for that thang

obsidian tide
# full burrow wahst secure boot?

Hello. Secure Boot is a Windows/motherboard firmware feature intended to lock the bootloader down a little. Make it harder to penetrate things in the kernel, e.g. EA Anticheat, or generally.

EA presumed most users would have it enabled already. However, custom builds and older prebuilds had it turned off as a convenience.

EA also did not give any guidance on what things the mandate specifically assumed to be true in an end user's system for it to throw the exception. This led to users trying any tutorial on the subject in the hopes it would make the problem go away. Even ones with steps that were unnecessary, and could induce severe problems if tried.

obsidian tide
heady ridge
#

Yes

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And repair

obsidian tide
#

Repair of what?

heady ridge
#

The game option to repair install

obsidian tide
#

Oh, that. The EA App thing.

heady ridge
#

That's the one

obsidian tide
#

Hmm. Has the EA App Recovery also failed you?

full burrow
gilded lava
obsidian tide
# full burrow hey thanks for the detailed explo, thats pretty fucked up on their side and a de...

Unfortunately, EA has still justified it under the guise of combating cheating, in spite of it being a significant compatibility break as well.

It is not likely to budge on this unless either its favorite prior influencers start turning on it, or unless BF6/BFLabs's final product is also negatively affected. 2042 simply exists as the newest Gold Release product, and therefore, as a convenient test bench for this.

#

The only thing one can do is at least make one's own PC able to operate within the new mandate, and also reserve the hatred towards it to be in the name of those who were unable to restore game compatibility, should you manage to resolve it for yourself.

#

Some effort has been made to compile community information on it into a guide format, at least.

heady ridge
heady ridge
gilded lava
#

if you own it on steam try verifying there

heady ridge
#

It's purchased on the EA platform and when you load via Steam it still defers to EA platform to load so it's the same thing but more likely to have a hiccup

obsidian tide
obsidian tide
obsidian tide
gilded lava
uneven ibexBOT
trim crown
#

Where can I demand a refund for B 2042? Can no longer play due to secure boot and I am not going to attempt to fix something EA fucked up. They broke it, they can fix it or give us our money back.

pine roost
#

If they are going through the ea owned brands I’d better see a titanfall one in there

naive ember
#

Should've played the game when it was actually good, do your research before deciding to purchase something

trim crown
#

I have steam, but B2042 is not there. Tried using the game product key to enable but didn't take

gilded lava
pine roost
#

The lie has been exposed

What

gilded lava
#

-# (I have no clue)

obsidian tide
lyric snow
#

damnnn

#

peak

obsidian tide
ebon imp
#

dleo s

pine roost
chilly oak
#

bruh i thought the game news was bf announcement 😭

lyric snow
#

anyone reckon who the skins are for

obsidian tide
solid plume
#

is it just me or are these skin partner bundles with other games super homo and take away from the independence of the game.

obsidian tide
solid plume
#

last I checked militaries don't randomly come out with new fortnite skins for units

gilded lava
solid plume
obsidian tide
pine roost
#

If people don’t like the skins they won’t buy them anyway

solid plume
#

is battlefield not a war simulator-esque?

solid plume
pine roost
#

But I know however bad and corporate it is, I’d buy a titanfall skin in a heartbeat

obsidian tide
pine roost
#

If I could play as the cloak pilot I’d be very happy. Wouldn’t be too far from the setting if you look at the armour in isolation

solid plume
#

supporting this corporation sppecifically is super cringe

gilded lava
lyric snow
solid plume
solid plume
#

too woke for me

pine roost
#

Don’t see how that relates but okay

#

But yeah, since the start of bfV the narrative took more of a hero type approach if you can call it that

solid plume
#

focus on the pew pew not the who who

obsidian tide
pine roost
#

I guess bfv’s named soldiers annoyed you too then

solid plume
obsidian tide
solid plume
#

after bf3 & bf4 I skipped hardline, 5, and 1

#

not gettin muh money

pine roost
#

Damn you’ve been waiting a while then

solid plume
#

2042-I caved and surprise they got me again

nova thistle
#

Ahh yes a ping for a game no one wants to play.

dire hawk
#

biggest W update in a long time

obsidian tide
solid plume
#

deep down I just dont want to accept that this game cant be saved and my memories from bad company 2 days can't be renewed.

obsidian tide
#

Also, whoever develops the BattlefieldComms Discord bot, the X.com Article format never embeds in it. Only Status posts do, if at all.

narrow shadow
#

I will preorder this like all others except hardline

slender sentinel
#

Wtf does "the lie has been exposed" mean in the most recent patch notice?

obsidian tide
pine roost
#

Not a clue

obsidian tide
shell mural
#

I hope the next battlefield look more like BF3 and BF4.

pine roost
#

Some phantom program thing maybe

narrow shadow
#

🤜 🤛 @Buddy

solid plume
slender sentinel
#

It is under the progression bullet point. That's all it says

remote quail
remote quail
solid plume
quartz tartan
#

What the fuck is up with all these crossovers in 2042 is it fortnite now?

obsidian tide
narrow shadow
#

2042 is dead game anyway after BF6

#

Now its just spitting content for the content

quartz tartan
solid plume
narrow shadow
#

Trying to stay alive

remote quail
shell mural
solid plume
pine roost
#

Well yeah, it stopped seasons a year ago

solid plume
#

little thing called D. E. I.

#

if you're an adult, and work for a large company, you know forced diversity is absolutely a thing

gilded lava
swift bramble
#

We can move on from the diversity discussion, thanks.

solid plume
#

OOp word police is here

narrow shadow
#

If they can give us decent maps BF6 should do good

solid plume
#

oo wow

#

edgy

shell mural
gilded lava
pine roost
#

Amazing

swift bramble
#

Because y'all can't behave. Thanks for moving on.

narrow shadow
#

Hey don't put me in the box with those that can't behave plse

quartz tartan
gilded lava
#

He'll delete the messages guys don't bother

true widget
#

Let's hug it out gents

next onyx
#

Ok that's funny in a good way, The mass effect bundles.

shell mural
pine roost
scarlet jasper
gilded lava
nocturne valve
#

sooo, they still haven't fixed the AN-94's hit sound ? CursedCat

scarlet jasper
next onyx
#

There's some cool stuff from there.

pine roost
#

The suits would fit the setting

narrow shadow
#

Have a great weekend people

pine roost
#

Still praying for a helldivers titanfall collab

#

But doing so has me feeling like a hypocrite

next onyx
#

The undermagged attachments will be interesting.

#

They're switching things up.

#

Probably be good to just play for a day and then just not touch the game for a while hah.

#

I'm sad the m16a3 will no longer be an all kit weapon.

scarlet jasper
#

I wish the Mass Effect Event would come with a small Battle Pass like the one before the last one did.

#

I still love the robot skin for Liz I got from that one and I would love to get some of the Mass effect ones, but the Bundles for 20 or 30 bucks are far too expensive for me.

pine roost
#

Reminded me of the phase shift pilot model

scarlet jasper
#

Which was an awesome model.

pine roost
#

Giving a scarf to a robot is just cool

scarlet jasper
#

True.
Well, now I want TF3. Thanks 😅

next onyx
#

Scarfs are cool in general.

#

Scarves and goggles go so hard.

pine roost
#

And we’ll never get one!
RIP

scarlet jasper
#

😭

pine roost
#

Diesel knights will have to suffice

shell mural
gilded lava
shell mural
brittle wind
indigo ruin
#

Hi

shell mural
#

It weird to see your twin killing you in the other team. They need to bring the BFV soldier customisation.

real zinc
#

anyone know how to fix the crashing when you die?

#

i crash every time i die,

#

i cba with hardmode bf lmao

dusky harbor
#

Too bad after their 'enable secure boot' my screen keeps black and I need to pull both GPUs to get back into BIOS to disable it again. So it was fun while it lasted.

sharp terrace
#

Hey Battlefield, can you just release the teaser for the next game please?

brisk cobalt
real zinc
#

alright ill try rolling back a couple driver versions see if it fixes it

brisk cobalt
#

Rolling back drivers fixes it but caused me more issues with other games so I didnt bother in the end and just gave up

real zinc
#

i sadly cant go without my bf fix

real zinc
#

awesome ty

brisk cobalt
#

Same tbf so I just play it on the laptop lol

#

Np

real zinc
#

i wish it would run on my steam deck, i would never put the game down

brisk cobalt
#

Lol, never owned one tbf does look cool

dark path
#

Are bf2042 servers down?

#

It’s not letting me in

real zinc
#

mines working

dark path
#

Hmmm

gaunt cliff
#

any up to play in a squad?

pearl ridge
#

Ah fuck they're going to make me actually buy something in this game huh

ocean parrot
#

I haven't played since launch lol

dusk gulch
serene vault
#

Really quick what is new this patch or update. Im at work rn can't read. Like weapons gadgets maps anything??

ocean parrot
#

It's 7 dollars!? Maybe I'll buy it again then I thought it was full price

ocean parrot
dusk gulch
ocean parrot
#

still full price on Steam rn

dusk gulch
halcyon bear
#

I hope "a few tweaks and fixes" means there are more changes to the vault guns than what is stated. If it's only the listed changes then I don't see anything changing.

vital quail
upper ravine
#

Where do I check to see if I got alpha code

chilly jacinth
#

Your email

obsidian tide
#

How did you enable it?

dapper river
#

The lie has been exposed. The lie has been exposed. The lie has been exposed. The lie has been exposed. WideAngel1WideAngel2

acoustic seal
#

i wish it was, people keep saying the game is fixed

dusky harbor
# obsidian tide How did you enable it?

As it you are supposed to do following their steps. Go to boot menu in BIOS > Secure Boot - Enable etc. And I'm lucky I've a CPU with iGPU else you're simply screwed. But at their forum there are a lot of people with the same issue and EA doesn't give a f. Looking further back you find the same threads when they did the same with Valorant. Their simple step-by-step simply doesn't work with every configuration and telling people 'changing things in the BIOS is at your own risk' is a pretty simplistic way to avoid any responsibility. If they care they could at least mention you could render your PC useless by simply enabling secure boot for a bloody game. Makes no sense whatsoever. And it's not that I don't know anything about PCs, building my own for 35 years.

obsidian tide
thorny bluff
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still cant see/join when people are in game in social tab. been like weeks now. Everyone i know has this problem.

vital quail
thorny bluff
high lintel
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Hey anyone wanna play

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Stats are in stats room

zealous loom
indigo ruin
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Just had an epic match on ORBITAL. We had zero tickets left and we were on overtime, but we still managed to cap those flags. Then we rushed the last objective with only like 60 something tickets and managed to win.

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CRAZY

karmic oasis
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nice lol

indigo ruin
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I thought we were gonna lose for sure

indigo ruin
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I have zero experience in bios and I managed to enable secure bootleo

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I’m jk. I’m pretty sure ur not lying

obsidian tide
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Let's see what is wrong with them.

indigo ruin
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Ya buddy, let’s see what’s wrong with those steps

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🫃

obsidian tide
prime hollow
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Progression:
The lie has been exposed.

Erm what

vital quail
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easter egg

fresh grail
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What are these changes to vault weps

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Absolutely nothing

fickle wharf
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yeah
nothing burgers

obsidian tide
vital quail
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and some muzzle and grips added

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still no good red dot for the m16

obsidian tide
vital quail
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it has the bf3 kobra but its not that good

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and every other portal AR has the 2042 basic red dot sight except an94 and aek

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it also doesn't have the bf3 reflex but it does in portal gamemodes

vivid rune
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Servers need a reboot or reset or whatever it takes ages to find a game.

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Ping is also very high

obsidian tide
dire ingot
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There should have been bf4 in portal

obsidian tide
dusky harbor
gilded lava
dire ingot
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Maps

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And

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Guns

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And the class skins from bf4

abstract night
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Only real differences would be class skins and maps

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But honestly I always preferred BF3s characters models over 4 anyways

gilded lava
dire ingot
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We need operation locker

chilly jacinth
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No

gilded lava
obsidian tide
rocky gust
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And the 428/bsvm

dusky harbor
# obsidian tide After looking at the EA Instructions, I can see why. Did you reset the OEM facto...

I've a Gigabyte Designare mb and it said I had to enable PK key before being able to enable secure boot.

So I did and didn't think much of it. It said it had 0 keys stored and just enabled that PK key.

And this step might be why it's not working. I can try again once when I've the energy but since there were no stores keys I don't expect issues enabling that PK key and afterwards secure boot.

On the BF forum someone said I also might have to do with the GPUs since I've two. Don't really feel like trying again since I'm already happy the two GPUs fit in the case and removing them is annoying.

Appreciate your thinking along, it's odd but as said, there are really a lot of people who have black screen issues. And that's a bit much trouble imo for EAs way to do something about cheaters.

While I enjoy a game now and then my PC is mainly used for work stuff and I think EA should make it more clear how and what you can do if your screen goes black and you can't get into BIOS anymore. Well, you will be in BIOS you just don't see it.

It's also not that secure boot is kind of default since it doesn't add much for a normal desktop. While TMP2.0 is a thing needed for Win11 secure boot is needed because EA thinks so. And to just introduce it with a patch and render the game unusable for some and pc's as well I see as a bad decision. Especially as they don't take responsibility.

It's like Nvidia blaming users their connector goes up in flames while it's just bad engineering.

I might try to get it to work again as I now know how I got my screen back but for now RoadCraft is more relaxing 😁

lusty timber
obsidian tide
# dusky harbor I've a Gigabyte Designare mb and it said I had to enable PK key before being abl...

Found a forum post on the subject.
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/cant-enable-secure-boot-in-bios-without-a-platform-key.3371198/#post-20660087

For GIGABYTE motherboards, if no PK or Platform Keys are present, Provision Factory Defaults must be set to Enabled, among other things like Set New Platform Key under Key Management, to get the default platform keys reinstalled. Only then is one able to attempt to set up Secure Boot and Pure UEFI Mode, as well as other typical UEFI parameters.

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Another one for the knowledge base.

dusky harbor
obsidian tide
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Right. No promises on if it may work, but it is a start for dealing with custom GIGABYTE and other motherboards being bricked or failing to do Secure Boot because not all was in order.

indigo ruin
misty pewter
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if you enable secure boot and get black screen it means your gpus VBIOS is not compatible with secure boot @dusky harbor

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it sounds like you are running a older sli setup or duel cards for some reason

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so no 2042 for you sadly unless you can find Vbioses that are signed uefi gop @dusky harbor

obsidian tide
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Could be some now-weird 3-way SLI.

misty pewter
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the 3090 probly needs a reflash if possible

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I have no idea what a system might do if a 3090 without the display id capablity AND A 4090 where present in the same system

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it could very well hang

dusky harbor
# misty pewter if you enable secure boot and get black screen it means your gpus VBIOS is not c...

Well a 3090 and the 4090 are not really antique I would say but someone in the BF forum mentioned it as well. It's not a weird SLI config, just two dedicated GPU's in one PC. I render a lot and the 3090 provides me an extra 10k CUDA cores. To render with both you don't need SLI, all GPU render plugins just recognize the cards and you select the ones you want to work hard.

BF2042 also doesn't want to start if my 3090 is enabled in the device manager but that's also a typical BF2042 problem. Well it starts but it refuse to go full screen. All other software and games don't care about the two GPUs. They just pick the GPU where my monitors are connected to. I don't really care I need to disable the 3090 since it's often disabled anyway since I don't render all the time.

I'm not sure how much it means but if I look at GPU-Z both cards have UEFI checked and the tooltip says it should to allow fast boot and secure boot. I don't really feel like flashing the VBIOS just to play a game so will try later without. I can't really imagine it's the cards preventing the boot but I suspect more that it doesn't get pass BIOS and hangs in BIOS with an error. Just without outputting any video signal at all. And while that would make sense since I normally have the iGPU disabled it's still odd since I just reset the BIOS shorting the pins. I would say that normally would be enough to just get the default settings with iGPU enabled. Although I can imagine it would put the output to dedicated GPUs anyway if it sees them.

When I removed my GPUs the messsage I got was just 'BIOS has been reset to defaulr values' which is normal, just having no video output ain't. I think the secure boot options are just not simply reversed back to default with a BIOS reset since I had to reverse them back manually.

misty pewter
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it should work you are correct but nvidia had issues with select varients not supporting displayID

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the typical behavior is a blackscreen untill windows loads the gpu driver how ever I have no idea what would happen in a dual gpu setup

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with csm on the displayID support isn't a issue

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but its also possible that your board is not happy about trying to load two uefi signd vbioses at once

dusky harbor
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Makes sense what you are saying. Maybe I can check for a VRAM update once I remove for example the 4090 first since I can imagine running an update tool with two GPUs is not tested by Nvidia yet ;)

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VBIOS* would love VRAM updates ;)

misty pewter
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I agree the entire thing is quiet idiotic and i hope he cheaters absolutely run roughshod over javelin as a lesson about ticbox programing

dusky harbor
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Yeah if I was the only person with issues, well, happens. But there are many who are completely stressed out since they don't have a integrated GPU so need to actually repair their computer by a shop.

misty pewter
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igpu is not likely to matter anything old enough to be on the minium requirements is likely to have some kind of issue

dusky harbor
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I meant that they just can't see anything anymore to get back in BIOS and revert the changes. Is there an easy way to identify your actual make/model of GPU? Can't see my 3090 since it's behind the 4090 :) was checking the bios versions on TechPowerUp

misty pewter
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you know the clear cmos button/jumper exists right

dusky harbor
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Yeah that's what I mentioned in that long story above.. that doesn't clear the secure boot section

misty pewter
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if it defaults to on you are correct

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that isn't typical unless you are running a prebuilt

dusky harbor
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Well all was reset but that PK thing was still like I changed it and the secure boot settings as well

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Nah, build my own :)

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And there's also dual flash but well, without seeing anything that's a hard thing to do as well

dusky harbor
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Well started to rain and my inside nerd wanted to test. Now it's booted in secure mode with it's iGPU. Let's now add a card one by one 😁

dusky harbor
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Few boots later and it seems to work.

@obsidian tide seems enabling Provision Factory Defaults did the trick in the end.

@misty pewter since my 3090 is in the primary slot I added that one first and also ran the Nvidia tool you mentioned. The 3090 didn't need an update. I vaguely recall I updated once I got it since support for re-BAR was added.

Thanks both and I hope it will help other people as well.

remote kiln
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unless you need the vram explicitly it seems massive on costs

dusky harbor
# remote kiln what is your power bill for this type of config? it seems very expensive for wha...

VRAM wise it doesn't make a different, you just have 24GB since there is no NVLink anymore. With 2x3090 you would still do it and V-Ray is actually trying to make it work again on the 50xx since it has some shared memory feature outside NVLink.

Nvidia was smart to kill NVLink since current game cards are much more interesting to use than their pro-series of cards looking at money/speed ratio.

I'm always surprised about the power usage, it's not by far the max TDP while it does run 100%. BF2042 uses more looking at the single 4090. I think that's actually because it uses all CUDA cores and some RT-cores I guess but other than that it's not busy with any VRAM related things since your entire scene needs to fit in VRAM.

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And I don't render the entire day, GPU renders are incredibly fast compared to CPU renders. For that matter I think rendering over CPU is far more expensive.

remote kiln
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Nvidia have made the driver toggle explicitly for a single GPU only unless the game has explicit SLI support due to incompatibility issues (and since they stopped supporting it in the driver), you can override it in the driver but 95% of games will present a form of instability

misty pewter
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DX12 has had its own multi gpu path for ages but nobody uses it

remote kiln
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that wasn't what you're thinking

misty pewter
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not very useful for game but for rendering

remote kiln
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multi GPU support with DX12 requires explicit implementation to be supported, and it can't be retrofitted in a way that's possible without rebuilding a game more or less, you'd need to make a entirely new game for it to work

misty pewter
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because you can use it to created a unified GraphicsMemory Instance across both cards and its gpu agnostic

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so for llm and some rendering tasks you can expand your pool of usable memory

remote kiln
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LLM frameworks don't use DX, DX is a GPU accelerated graphics pipeline, they all use their own proprietary frameworks of some variety

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pytorch or something else

misty pewter
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it would be a nightmare for a game engine that needs to support real time multiplayer but you could use it to acclerate other things

remote kiln
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it's just not practical, similar to DirectStorage it's a new paradigm for frameworks which can't be retrofitted (at all) without rebuilding it, which is why any new DX feature takes years to appear in games

misty pewter
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but you COULD- id aruge should

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just use the api microsoft gives you and stop trying todo your own thing which 70% of the time is utter shit

remote kiln
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you cant

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directx just provides access to features, it doesn't mean you can interlope it into what you're using

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if you're using any sort of custom engine like unreal or frostbite you're at the mercy of what those engines provide, which won't have those calls (at all) at least for 6 months to a year after

glass sequoia
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Does anyone know if there is a solution to not being able to launch the game because of the secure boot thing? I have tried messing around in bios but didnt work

remote kiln
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and migration to a new engine is not practical without breaking half of what already exists

misty pewter
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explict multi gpu has been around forever it was part of the inital DX12 spec

remote kiln
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yes, but it was optional

misty pewter
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as I said nobody uses it

remote kiln
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nobody cares about optional features

misty pewter
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it requires no hardware support beyond whats required for basic feature level 12.0

remote kiln
misty pewter
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**disable bitlocker if enabled

remote kiln
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just update your bios and it should do the job

misty pewter
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**do not attempt to convert your drive to gpt if it isn't unless you understand what you are doing

remote kiln
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bit locker is enabled by default on windows 11 home editions, it doesn't cause incompatibility issues unless you're on a local account

misty pewter
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if you change the secure boot state

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it will ask for the recovery key

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which the user probly didn't write down

remote kiln
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you can't install 11 without SB being on anyways, so it doesn't matter for this situation

misty pewter
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yes you can lol

remote kiln
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you can through non validated means

misty pewter
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well not offically but many people do

remote kiln
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and if you do that you're on your own to begin with

misty pewter
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iv gotten systems from flyby night intergrators with it off

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user can't be expected to know or understand anything about it thats the point

remote kiln
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windows updates will stop working eventually for platforms which don't have TPM/secure boot, so as soon as you go into Rufus etc territory you're explicitly on your own (and shouldn't be expecting things to work)

misty pewter
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rule one of software support assume the user is a brainded muppet with a IQ the same or equal tempture of the south pole

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that is YEARS out

remote kiln
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no, it's already here

misty pewter
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Nope its not enforced

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not even in enterprise skus

remote kiln
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you can't boot valorant and haven't been able to for a while if you force windows 11 and have tpm/secure boot off

misty pewter
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*windows update

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whats that got todo with valorant ?

remote kiln
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enterprise skus is a specific windows version lol, this is about home editions only

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nobody is installing an enterprise product version

misty pewter
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No windows edition will block or suspend updates if secure boot / tpm is disabled

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to many production machines are already deployed with it disabled

remote kiln
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yes, they will, Microsoft have said this for years lol

misty pewter
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and they have not done it

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not once

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they can't rock + hardplace

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it would break shit worse then crowdstrike and undermine everybodys security but refusing to deliver critical updates because secureboot / tpm isn't enabled

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that would be idiotic

remote kiln
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Microsoft said years ago they'd do this, maybe you missed it

dusky harbor
# remote kiln I was meaning for rendering specifically with power costs, 2042 etc will never u...

GPU renders don't need SLI. The render plug loads the scene into the VRAM of both cards (so the entire scene resides in both cards) and it gets rendered.

I'm not talking about real time renderers like Unreal which won't support multiple GPU's anyway.

So it has nothing to do with SLI. There's no physical link between the cards. And yes, GPU rendering needs less power than running BF2042. Won't be fair to actually look at both cards since BF2024 won't even run full screen if I've both enabled.

remote kiln
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Nope, that's the good thing. It makes less sense to do if you've a 2080 + 4090 for example since you will only be able to use 11GB of VRAM. But since the VRAM on both my cards is 24GB you have 10.xxx CUDA cores extra for the 16xxx of the 4090 so it does help a lot in render speed

misty pewter
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read that entire thread specifically he has a windows release update pending