battlefield-2042

[orchid tusk]

i showed you the video with the netgraph

[simple reef]

We need 128 Rush back.

[orchid tusk]

although that was for a different symptom (slowdown, not freezing)

[keen remnant]

is servers down?

i cant connect

[orchid tusk]

i'm not looking for a perfect connection. although it has improved quite a bit over the years, this is something different (the freezes)

[simple reef]

Seem so. Keep loading into empty lobbies.

[keen remnant]

it just keep ssaying connection error

look. one sec

"error unable to connect to EA servers"

[orchid tusk]

my ping averages in the 80s nowadays, actually its mostly in the 60s i'd say but occasionally in some locations ill get 100-120ish

[late nacelle]

This happen for me before one week, if you trying to connect from steam?

[orchid tusk]

bandwidth is plenty for gaming and even hd streaming

im not even seeing any similar complaints in r/ so I will continue gathering info and report back to the log here

[misty pewter]

ping 8.8.8.8 -t and post it

[zealous loom]

What response curve do you guys like most

[misty pewter]

what you talking about wilis

[zealous loom]

Controller response curve

[misty pewter]

0 because I am not a filthy peasant

-1 if possible

[zealous loom]

Dice too lazy to add MnK to Xbox

[midnight fossil]

Decided to hop in the game tonight. Got met with the "need to have secure boot enabled"... WTF? Go into the bios, just switch the setting to "standard" (basically just making a change, but not really changing it) and go back into windows. "EA Anti Cheat needs to be updated" .... WTF?!?! ok, download the installer, run, update.. etc. etc.. Launch game, "need to have secure boot enabled". Ah, the endless loop of a bad patch. Can I ask if the devs actually did testing with this patch, or was this just a YOLO patch? I understand the need to combat cheaters, but this is just frustrating. Anyone have any suggestions, or do we have to wait for another patch?

[gilded lava]

Something might disabling secure boot

[obsidian tide]

Is UEFI Capsule Updates also enabled?

Possible things that need to be set for this thing to work:

1. Secure Boot Status: Enabled.
2. Secure Boot Type: Standard.
3. Firmware TPM: Enabled.
4. UEFI Capsule Updates: Enabled.
5. OS Type, if configurable: Windows UEFI.

[gilded lava]

And make sure you don't have any ancient hardware on your system

[obsidian tide]

Or at least, not too ancient.

[gilded lava]

Like a GPU from 2011

[rain violet]

Also depends on user vs setup mode. In my case I had to change mine for secure boot to actually work (it displayed as enabled but didn't actually work)

[gilded lava]

imagine dealing all of this just because you want to play a game that you own

[quiet sonnet]

Reducing the amount of cheaters by annoying absolutely evergone ❤️ 🥰

[obsidian tide]

The game requires AMD drivers from 2022 or 2023 minimum.

[strange sentinel]

how would u even run 2042 on a gpu from 2011 lmao

[acoustic seal]

the game is playable on a 1050ti, i've done it

it doesn't feel any worse than it normally does, you're just stuck at 25-35 fps forever because of directx12

[wise heath]

Console wins again

[gilded lava]

it's the neat part
You don't

[strange sentinel]

exactly

[gilded lava]

I had my old GPU installed temporarily to my new PC and I tried to play valorant with it

But couldn't because that also requires secure boot

[lavish verge]

Did you get this figured out? I can walk you through it

[rich summit]

Any tips for unlocking draugr’s weapon? I only have 20mm, NNEMP, and ground radar

[glass trellis]

Anyone know of any OCE / Aus communities that are around? cant seem to find any in 2042

[outer epoch]

having trouble launching game, launched it, said i wasnt connected tp server tried restarting game on steam and crashed, fixed crash but now geting a red message popup about restarting javelin anticheat?
ea javelin anticheat encountered a error. please restart your pc.: c/program files/ea/ac/eaanticheat. game service.exe (7) (3)
trying to launch 2042

tried multiple vids trying to fix it but never worked

[little helm]

Hello there. I am new to BF2042. I usually play BO6 or Warzone. Could you suggest some tips or important things I should know that could help me?

[brittle wind]

Change FOV to 89, enable ADS FOV

[chilly jacinth]

Change your FOV to something you like

[little helm]

I'll most prob change to around 110ish maybe. That's my normal FOV on most FPS games

[remote kiln]

what is your resolution

[little helm]

4k tv 🤣

I play xbox

[remote kiln]

aspect ratio?

[little helm]

not sure tbh

[chilly jacinth]

16:9 definitely

[vocal tusk]

99% chance its 16:9

[little helm]

That makes sense 🤣

[little helm]

naaa its 9:16

playing on a mobile 😄

[remote kiln]

since youre on xbox youll want to configure your AA settings, theyre different to black ops 6/cod in that its much weaker with magnetism, so youll find it hard to adjust to

your coefficient will probably need changed aswell

[little helm]

Are there any online tools that could help convert my sensitivity?

Also, I played my first match yesterday, and I didn't notice any aim assist. Does this game have it? Or is it off by default?

[remote kiln]

for controller spec i dont think so

[remote kiln]

yes it does

you wont notice it because its not an aimbot like in cod

if you want to see it being used ADS onto a target and youll see it automatically trailing someone when theyre moving

[little helm]

So it doesn't rely on how much you apply on the left stick, then? like cod

[remote kiln]

it doesnt yeah, youll actually need to lead (aim) your shots in this game

[spring meadow]

Hey guys not trying to disrupt your conversation but can i (from europe) play Bo42 with someone from NA?

[remote kiln]

the magnetism will deliberately aim behind where a player is, so it doesnt stick and follow them like in cod

[vocal tusk]

There is slowdown and sticky aim assist that triggers in a similar way, but you still need to track a target for it to remain active. It doesnt aim for you

[little helm]

Ok thx

[remote kiln]

if you want some advice lower your deadzone triggers and youll be able to use magnetism aiming behind geometry at times, but if youre not used to low DL triggers, itll be a different experience

[chilly jacinth]

It basically triggers on ADS

[little helm]

yea definitely

DId the same in bo6

[remote kiln]

id advise anywhere from 0-5% to abuse most of the time

anything higher and it doesnt work all that well

[little helm]

2-3 works for me. Lower and then it just shoots on its own 🤣

[remote kiln]

yeahh so unfortunately not in this game lmao

youll get the magnetism but not the shooting bit

[brittle wind]

110 isn't that good in BF imo, around 90 is better for better FOV and allows you to see enemies further away still, FOV is important for visual recoil though, lower FOV = more visual recoil

[remote kiln]

95-105 is what id advise generally

too wide and you wont be able to acquire targets due to fish eye, etc

[chilly jacinth]

Fisheye at 120 is crazy

[spring meadow]

Is it possible to play on the NA Server from Europe?

[remote kiln]

yes

you need to join someone whos in NA

[vocal tusk]

Or use a VPN

[spring meadow]

Did you guys try already? Is it even playable with 100ms ping

[remote kiln]

@little helm also just as a fyi if you begin watching guides on youtube etc and their recoil looks different, be aware that controller has a flat 30% reduction in recoil patterns over keyboard and mouse, so it wont be a 1:1 direct conversion if youre watching pc content creators

[remote kiln]

yes but ofc its 100 ping so dying behind walls happens

[little helm]

thanks for the info

[remote kiln]

no worries

[little helm]

Relatively the same in bo6

I use controller myself so yea

[remote kiln]

i use hybrid for this game personally

controller 90% of the time on any cod game

[spring meadow]

ty

[little helm]

You use KAM for navigating UI, or sometimes even to play?

[remote kiln]

im on pc so kbm is my main input, but i came from controller on console going back over a decade ago, so i just interswitch when i feel like it

high sens roller really all that not much diff from h/s kbm

[pearl ridge]

Okay so conquest assault is a piece of shit for a new reason now

Turns out that if the match runs out of time the defenders are likely to lose despite holding the entire map the whole time because the attacker tickets still haven’t depleted below the amount the defenders started with

[misty ether]

88FOV is probably most people’s best bet.

[rocky geyser]

What response curve do players recommend on PC with controller?

[misty ether]

That is 120 FOV in most other titles.

[misty ether]

Blasphemy.

[rocky geyser]

Because im on PC and not using M&K? 😆

[red viper]

tbh I find the fisheye effect a bit too much

[misty ether]

Yeah. You’re better off asking the caveman PC console players that question.

[misty ether]

At 88? I don’t notice a fish eye at this FOV.

I do also play on a curved monitor, so that probably contributes to less of the feeling.

[rocky geyser]

Honestly I've tried M&K a few times. Maybe it's because I come from console and been playing console since I was a kid. I can shred on controller in COD and BF. But the moment I go to M&K, I'm absolutely garbage. 😆

[red viper]

yeah I'm on a flat monitor rn

[misty ether]

Well… that’s because the game… just aims for you.

[vocal tusk]

It takes time to learn any input device, as with anything

[red viper]

I find 100 horizontal FOV to be the most comfortable

[rocky geyser]

In 2042, absolutely. COD aim assist isnt nearly as strong though.

[misty ether]

:susge: That’s rage bait.

[red viper]

I never got used to using controller when I played on console

[rocky geyser]

In terms of FOV, I think 75 is good without getting the fisheye affect.

[red viper]

instantly got better when I switched to m&k

funny how stuff works

[misty ether]

88 VFOV is 119.55965 HFOV.

I used to play at 105 VFOV.

[rocky geyser]

Thats crazy 😂 105 HFOV is my go to everytime.

[misty ether]

105V is like… 135H

[rocky geyser]

105H is 73V. So 75 is my sweetspot.

[misty ether]

Yeah, that’s too narrow, too much information sacrificed.

85-90 is prime FOV.

[ebon belfry]

Imo 105V doesn't feel like 135H

[red viper]

what's funny is the people who play on stretched res

[misty ether]

Stretched is placebo.

[red viper]

yeah

[misty ether]

IMO

[red viper]

if you want bigger targets just lower the fov

otherwise you're just making the game look bad

[misty ether]

Or just disable ADS FOV.

[misty ether]

Well, some people are out here to compete.

[rocky geyser]

This is what I was gonna say. Higher FOV surely gives you more awareness around you, but lessen's what's directly in front of you.

[red viper]

well it makes more sense for games with less fov customization

[rocky geyser]

Dude the lobbies are dead this morning. I cant find a match 😆

[ebon belfry]

I play 1920x1440 stretched xD

[red viper]

I dislike the fisheye effect

[misty ether]

2042 itself is pretty dead already.

[rocky geyser]

So do i. Which is why 75 FOV in 2042 is my sweetspot. You can see enough around you without it looking ridiculous.

[misty ether]

So, the other benefit to higher FOV is the fact that you get less horizontal recoil the higher you go.

[red viper]

I think I use the same settings in 2042 as well

[misty ether]

There is no stat change, but because your FOV is wider, the horizontal recoil is just less visible.

[rocky geyser]

So aim assist aims for me but lets raise FOV to decrease recoil? 😂

[misty ether]

I mean, this isn’t necessary in BF. This game doesn’t have a lot of recoil.

And it doesn’t change any stats, it just lessens the visual effect of side to side recoil.

This only applies to players that have ADS FOV scaling enabled.

Additionally, in 2042, controller already has 75% less recoil than MKB.

[rocky geyser]

I'll keep practicing M&K.

[remote kiln]

its 30%, not 75 lol

[rocky geyser]

Its one thing to say I use controller for the aim assist and lessened recoil. But thats not the case, just simply what I've always used growing up, so switching to M&K just doesnt feel right, depending on the game.

[misty ether]

TIL.

[misty ether]

Controller is only good for RPGs.

IMO

There are reasons why they need “assists” in games where thumbs are suboptimal.

[remote kiln]

its fine for shooters

youve also got games like RL where KBM is totally uncompetitive

[misty ether]

I say pack in a GPX with every copy of BF6, only way Logitech is going to keep sales going. /s

The skates are fucking dogshit, but it’s a serviceable mouse overall.

[ebon belfry]

I had the original G Pro and it was trash

[misty ether]

Logitech is just dogshit anymore. The Chinesium mice are unironically on par, if not better.

Logitech is pretty much in the Glorious Arc right now.

And if you know anything about Glorious…

[ebon belfry]

Yup.... I had 3 G-pro's and they all had double clicking issues within 6 months of normal use.

[misty ether]

Their products are dogshit.

[ebon belfry]

I just didn;t bother returning it after the 3rd and got a op1 8k instead.

[misty ether]

Except the Series One Pro, IMO.

[misty ether]

I have both the OP1 8k and OP1w 4k.

[ebon belfry]

How's the op1w 4k?

[misty ether]

I think it’s worth the $120. If you got a Purple Frost 8k, you can do a top shell swap.

Gives a nice look, IMO.

Battery life is good.

It is like… 6g heavier, so if that’s an issue….

[ebon belfry]

I don't really care about weight

[misty ether]

So long as its not over 70g, I’m fine.

I’ve settled on 50-60g as my sweet spot.

The only reason I can justify the w 4k if you have the 8k right now is really if the cord is THAT big of an issue for you.

[ebon belfry]

Cord is fine with a bungee, but if I had to choose then I would go wireless again.

Because I find myself adjusting the cord quite often

[misty ether]

I just set my 8k at the furthest edge of my pad and remove the unneeded slack and I haven’t had any issues with the cable getting in my way.

Or, you can go full schizo and strip the cable of its shrouding and braid the wires for less drag.

[misty pewter]

or just buy the hyperx pulsefire and save 40 bucks

or kone pro

or sensei 10

[misty ether]

You mean a Steelseries Sensei 110?

[misty pewter]

I like the og sensei 10 but sure

[misty ether]

Steelseries was clowned out of making mice.

Literally most of the Chinesium that has been reviewed on any reputable channel; AimAdapt, DiamondLobby, mel0nFPS.

[misty pewter]

its all chinesium lol

[misty ether]

Well, the difference is that formerly big name players are just jokes now.

Save for Razer, and I don’t really care for Razer.

[misty pewter]

no the differents is youtubers think they are gods gift to fps

[misty ether]

I mean, if you consider good value a bad thing, then I have no idea what you’re on about.

[misty pewter]

???????

the haste 2 is what less then 60 bucks everyware

if you want to see chinsium garbage redragon

thats about as aweful as you can get

or logictech if you hate money

[misty ether]

Nah, HyperX has a mixed reputation. And my Haste 2 has some quality issues with creaking.

Never used a Redragon mouse, so if you have experience please post a review.

[misty pewter]

experience: I went to the doctor to have my hand amputated

[misty ether]

Schizo Moment

[next onyx]

The hyper x cloud did me super well.

Not sure about their mice though

[safe jetty]

guys, i have amd gpu and the game keep random crash. Someone have te same issue ? plz help

[young jewel]

iObit 12 Driver Booster for the win 🏆

[waxen heath]

I feel like the bipods need a buff, an 25lbs bipodded machine gun should have no recoil

[young jewel]

agreed I guess

I mean it's literally sitting on it pinned by gravity and your hand's

[waxen heath]

yeah

[chilly jacinth]

If you can't controll an lmg that's bippoded im sorry to say

use something else

[waxen heath]

plus im very sure the m60 weighs more with the exendened mag

[waxen heath]

its not if i can control it, its that it shouldn't have any in the first place :P

[safe jetty]

It will fix ?

[young jewel]

Not sure I don't have AMD but I've used yesterday to update a few and my game working far better even on Ultra setting's

[young jewel]

just find iObit 12 Driver Booster online install the free one and I'll slide you the pro key to get all the driver's benefit's

when I get home from work that is

it will auto scan on first run just don't press update because it's less convenient with the free version

[chilly jacinth]

You don't need bloatware to update drivers

[young jewel]

your opinion I guess

[vocal tusk]

Its a fact.

[young jewel]

ok

[vocal tusk]

those driver installers will just look for the latest driver for the piece of hardware...ignoring the vendor, or specific IDs the hardware may have. 8/10 this wont cause issues...but its those 2/10 that can completely fuck your system.

I used to do a lot of tech support for a YT channel, and a user used "Driver booster" to update all their drivers.

It installed a BT and Ethernet driver that was for their device, but not the board they had. But the device still didnt work, and windows didnt see the driver as installed (Cos it wasnt the correct driver)

Long story short, they ended up havign to do a complete windows re-install to get their BT and Ethernet working after having used such a software. This is obviously a worst case scenario, and wont happen 8/10...but im not willing to use those programs when there is any chance of failure

[young jewel]

so generally speaking anything unofficial than window's update or whatever you're using is bloatware okay 👍

it's just freedom of speech we're giving our opinions

[vocal tusk]

If anyone is ever stuck and cant find the correct drivers, they should first check their motherboards support page. And if you still cant find a driver, you can always look for a driver for the exact part you need.

Find it in Device manager > right click the device (Stuff missing drivers will usually have an exclamation mark) > In properties, select details > in the properties dropdown, choose Device IDs. These IDs are the exact part you need drivers for.

[obsidian tide]

Which AMD GPU?

[obsidian tide]

Some versions of that are flagged as malware.

[chilly jacinth]

nice

[young jewel]

I'm confused as what window's defender or anti-virus you have because ESET Smart Security Premium antivirus does not get triggered

[safe jetty]

6600

[obsidian tide]

The AMD RX 6000 Series GPUs will have a habit of crashing on current driver versions. Roll back to version 25.3.1 or earlier.

Alternatively, see if disabling the FPS Tracking category in the Performance tab helps, but if not, roll back anyway.

[safe jetty]

oh ill try

[bold bane]

i have already Secure Boot Enabled & Standard Mode and started game BF2042 it 😉

PC Specs: https://imgur.com/a/v4aaw8E

• AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
• Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER
• Zotac Gaming RTX 4080 AMP Extreme AIRO
• 32GB DDR5 RAM
• Windows 11 Pro 64-bit (Version 24H2)

[obsidian tide]

What about Firmware TPM and UEFI Capsule Updates?

[remote kiln]

what is the OS type set to? it to be explicitly windows for secure boot

also, update your bios and chipset drivers, you're missing out on scheduling improvements which benefit you

[still forge]

bro win11 iss not a good idear by ey support use win10 pro you can buy a key. its cost 3-5$

[dreamy mason]

w10 going oct 23 ,no more update for you.

[still forge]

ok but i csn use its better then win 11 you now when its time then i use my own win10 and a dati server system for then internet and then i dont need a new win11 system its a real window not a system

[remote kiln]

..?

[obsidian tide]

"OK but I can use it, it's better than Windows 11 you know. When it's time, then I use my own Win10 and a data server system for the Internet (Personal web server middleman?), and then I don't need a new Win11 system. It (Win10) is a real Windows, not a (inferior) system."

[dreamy mason]

lol

that Funny man

[pearl swallow]

lol

[obsidian tide]

It was an attempt.

[dreamy mason]

ji will give you a beeer for that

https://tenor.com/view/beer-chug-drinking-drink-thirsty-gif-4362970331505802377

[pearl swallow]

Why does my Battlefield not work something about a secure boot or something

[dreamy mason]

Dont start,them off..(EA secure boot)...lol

[pearl swallow]

lol

[dreamy mason]

What is CMS ,,ON or OFF

[pearl swallow]

if you dont have the secure boot the one way do the oposite

[obsidian tide]

It wants it enabled in a certain way for EA Anticheat to be happy.

[remote kiln]

csm means compatibility support module, it has to be disabled explicitly for secure boot requirements

[dreamy mason]

🙂

[pearl swallow]

lol that it does

[dreamy mason]

jNext TPM 2.0

[remote kiln]

enabled

[dreamy mason]

[obsidian tide]

Turning it off is part of making a system UEFI, GPT Partition Table, and Secure Boot Only.

No MBR (Master Boot Record) and traditional BIOS anymore.

[remote kiln]

yes.. that's why I said it has to be off

[dreamy mason]

Nice ,,Well said...EA need to be told 🙂

[remote kiln]

CSM is to do with legacy usb handoff mechanisms specifically

in that some garbage tier usb devices don't boot without xusb legacy

[obsidian tide]

I know. I only exist to supplement right now. I have other plans and projects in mind for EA Forum posts.

[pearl swallow]

[dreamy mason]

So when its said INsert DISK one ,,Does that mean i fucked it up

[obsidian tide]

I found a way to make 128 player mode, no matter how explosive, feel smooth.

[dreamy mason]

I only got USB sticks

[pearl swallow]

What is a disk?

[dreamy mason]

lol

[remote kiln]

what do you mean you only have usb sticks?

[dreamy mason]

jJokeing

[remote kiln]

just update your bios my guy

secure boot and TPM will auto enable themselves

you should be doing that regardless so you're not vulnerable to some nasty vectors of security exploits

[dreamy mason]

Oh god ,5 mins

[pearl swallow]

later

lol

[midnight fossil]

I am open to hear suggestions. 1. Runing latest Mobo firmware. 2. Running latest drivers. 3. Running up to date windows 11 updates. TMP and Secure Boot have ALWAYS been enabled, I made changes to "change it" just to see if that will work. After several reboots, I have relaunched the game, it it randomly will either give me a "secure boot not enabled" or "Latest Anti Cheat" error message. If you have any suggestions outside of that, I am all ears.

[lavish verge]

So when you go to msconfig, it says that secure boot is enabled?

Because in your earlier message, you said that you had set it to "standard" which isn't the right setting in UEFI

[waxen heath]

I can't get consisntant fps, sometimes im at a solid 100 fps, other times i sit at 60 with lag spikes any time i fight someone

i got 144fps and then randomly drops to like 30

nvm 13

wait nvm, forgot that havign a flight stick plugged in caused this

[midnight fossil]

Ok, your comment had me going down a rabbit hole, but I was able to figure it out. Thanks for that. So, windows was reporting that Secure Boot was not enabled... So, I went back into the BIOS to double check. Instead of using the bios search function, I navigated to where the Secure Boot setting was. Found out that the other option to select OS was set to "other OS" instead of "Windows UEFI". Changed setting from Other to Win UEFI and it is working now. As for your comment, There are two options for Secure Boot in the BIOS "Standard" or "Custom". It was set to Custom originally, but I switched it to standard previously, and is still set to "Standard" currently.

[lavish verge]

Yes, that's exactly what I had to do, enter bios 2x because I didn't get it right the first time. Glad you got it sorted homie!

It's kind of crazy that their only indication of any change was this nondescript error message with no details. As if the average computer user has one single clue as to what secure boot is, where to find it, how to get to bios, how to navigate bios. I consider myself an experienced PC user and still had to Google what that meant and follow EAs instructions

Like OHH secure boot isn't enabled :()

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

That's a great embed thanks discord

[obsidian tide]

Okay, so for some users with Secure Boot set and other UEFI settings in order, but EA Anticheat not detecting it as such in launching, it will explicitly expect Windows UEFI for OS Type if that parameter is configurable in your firmware. That is another layer to the issue.

[obsidian tide]

The shorthand checklist has been updated to account for this.

[lavish verge]

I found this to be helpful, or probably any AI model can walk you thru it https://help.ea.com/en/help/pc/secure-boot/#enable-secure-boot

[hardy niche]

OK , keep your secrets then.

[oblique vigil]

Where can I use the Condor and Hind now

[dense dawn]

Can SOMEONE explain why everytime I get killed my game crashes?

[dense dawn]

Everything is updated, I have reinstalled multiple times, I have everything on default settings

[azure basalt]

Renewal Layout on CQ ASSAULT is better than CQ 64 why its not in CQ 64 ???

[dense dawn]

Is there anyone that can help with this? Its soooo annoying

[azure basalt]

sorry man i don't know tbh

its weird

[dense dawn]

Its like finding a neddle in the haystack to find ANY kind of support on the website

[azure basalt]

try to ask ea support maybe?

[dense dawn]

I couldnt find it ANYWHERE lol I finally found something representing a help desk on their website

[azure basalt]

i tried to delete all the profile_save data in documents but it will reset every setting you have

i used to get those "gpu hang error detected" stuff

crash every 2-3 minute

it fixed for me idk if it also work for you

[dense dawn]

I’ve done that already. It’s some read from or write to a virtual address which doesn’t have appropriate access. Even tho I’ve ran in admin mode too

[azure basalt]

im sorry man, cannot help i try to do those it worked for me

[rain violet]

Bro is playing hardcore 2x mode, dies in game and his game dies too

[hollow spear]

conquest 64 broken? Crashing for me

[dense dawn]

Tell me about it!

[autumn igloo]

i got this game for 5 dollars and the absolute sysyphean challenge trying to get this game to start ain’t even worth it bro

i’m stuck on Game Stats screen for five minutes perma loading

[lavish verge]

I don't know of anyone else with that problem so it might not be the game

[autumn igloo]

makes no sense brk

go through all the bs

enable security boot on my pc three times before it works

then get stuck on some stupid satellite

now can’t get past game stats agreement screen

[lavish verge]

What screen? Post pic

[autumn igloo]

won’t let me post a photo

[lavish verge]

Oh yeah. Not in this channel

#screenshots-and-clips

Oh sorry also 99% chance I say "oh idk bro". I'm not great at troubleshooting

[autumn igloo]

won’t let me type in that chat

[lavish verge]

Oh ya huh. Me neither

Well I'm stumped

[autumn igloo]

i’m stuck in the screen that says Game Stats

When you play Battlefield 2042 your game stats…

and then it says right click to continue but it perma loads

this is the single worst experience i have ever had trying to launch a game

[autumn igloo]

bro twenty minutes stuck on the same screen like ???????

[fallow belfry]

Anyone wanna boost hazard zone trophy on ps5

[ashen harbor]

I saw something like this earlier with an AMD driver update.

https://forums.ea.com/discussions/battlefield-2042-technical-issues-en/game-crash-issue-with-amd-adrenaline-25-5-1-drivers-on-battlefield-2042/12168627

[lavish verge]

Have you quit and restarted your computer and then the game?

[autumn igloo]

eventually it worked

3 resets later

didnt even wanna play atp

[zealous loom]

Stranded 3x in a row, oh my god

I hope we at least have map voting in BF6

[misty pewter]

how about just not have modes on maps that don't work

[obsidian tide]

Conquest Assault?

[zealous loom]

Nah 128, was taking a break from BT and literally got it 3x in a row

[obsidian tide]

Understandable.

[zealous loom]

In progress matches too

[small kindle]

games just not fun at all anymore

[feral hemlock]

Yesterday, it was feeling like playing in lobby with so many hackers... Shot thru walls, in buildings, with snipers... I thought bf has no hackers, sad :/

[azure basalt]

cq assault also ... lol

[naive ember]

You thought wrong

That's why I moved to cod cause there's no hackers there

[vital quail]

[chilly jacinth]

Atleast try to not lie once

[delicate onyx]

Hey so not sure if anyone is awake ATM but why does it say I need secure boot for 2042?

[red viper]

new anti cheat

[obsidian tide]

New EA Anticheat update mandates it.

[obsidian tide]

Here is the shorthand checklist of things to set in your UEFI Firmware/BIOS settings to make EA Anticheat happy.

1. Secure Boot Status: Enabled.
2. Secure Boot Type: Standard. Not Custom.
3. Firmware TPM: Enabled.
4. UEFI Capsule Updates: Enabled.
5. OS Type, if configurable: Windows UEFI. Not Other OS.

[slow canyon]

Have they reverted the secureboot yet ffs

Any anti-cheat or game should not ask their players to change their bios setting this is so stupid

[chilly jacinth]

It's not gonna get reverted now or in the future

Their new games will also require it

[obsidian tide]

No.

[obsidian tide]

This decision probably operated on the basis that any PC model released within the timeframe of EA Anticheat's time period of use (2022+) already had it enabled as it expected to be.

Except. FairFight-era PCs from the late 2010s did not unless migrating to certain Windows 10 release versions.

[severe matrix]

[obsidian tide]

And the UEFI settings may not fully target what it is checking for, even with Secure Boot enabled, unless the user configures additional settings in it.

[remote kiln]

just wait till you hear about valorant lol

[acoustic seal]

the thing about vanguard is that it works

2042 could have no anticheat and the game experience wouldn't be significantly different

[remote kiln]

?

[modest hearth]

how often does the event for battlefield 2042 change modes?

is it weekly?

[slow canyon]

yea i have vanguard installed so?

[remote kiln]

vanguard requires secure boot, tpm, and HVCI to be enabled lol

[slow canyon]

then how come the same didnt work for ea's?

[remote kiln]

because you probably had it off unnoticed

[slow canyon]

wdym, the vanguard is literally running rn

had what off

and i dont recall changing any setting on my pc when installing vanguard

especially uefi/bios

[remote kiln]

well you can't run valorant without those, and they required changing bios settings, javelins requirements aren't anything new

they even have a guide on their website

[slow canyon]

for some reasons valorant works fine and my secure boot is off

[prime trail]

So this is my first battle field game I’ve changed my sense about 7 times already and can’t get it to feel smooth is that just the way this game is ?

2042 *

[chilly jacinth]

Legal action will get you nowhere

It will still get you nowhere

[slow canyon]

you have all my support

[teal tusk]

sily law suit... if you cant enable it then its time to upgrade so you can. its that simple. keep up to date and the game will be better overall. Too many hackers in the industry not to have it enabled anymore

Easy fix surely to just load the other OS onto another SSD? and boot from either OS as and when needed? pretty sure if secure boot is enabled on both OS's it should work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcZFNqWqqUk

give this a watch

[rocky gust]

that's a tough nut to swallow man. Fuck EA

let's not get started on the EA app too

i didn't think anything is gonna top Origin but dear EA is just amazing at anything that ruins player expectations

[teal tusk]

cant imagine they will revert it and im kind of glad as the hackers have been suppressed majority so far with it. unfortunately for some like yourself it just wont work and would be worth building a separate small rig the other OS you need?

unless they can come up with a work around

id love to see this evidence because ive not seen cheating like that in this game in 500 hours so far. I've see aimbot and thats about it.

[chilly jacinth]

Secure Boot doesn't solve the cheating issue, just limits a different way of making/booting cheating software

[acoustic seal]

yeah cheaters were already either running signed code on disk or DMA, and it wouldnt have mattered even if they werent because the secure boot check is so half assed

it's the typical caliber of work we expect from EA

i'm just tired man

people don't even really bother cheating in this game unless it's an asia/china specific thing i'm not aware of

[elder monolith]

guys what is it and when "aim downs sigh accuracy" works? I actually does not know that term

[clever mulch]

Wanting to sue a game that just went on sale for 3 USD over secure boot is wild

[rugged citrus]

oh yeah china has a really big cheater culture

Cheats for battlefield are sold on the market like candy bars

I wish I was kidding a Chinese friend of mine sent me a photo of one

[haughty crest]

this game is literally unplayable on PC

works fine for a freaking day and then stutters next day again

sigh

I miss the days BF games were made for PC 😦

[rugged citrus]

It was like 2 years ago

[haughty crest]

likely due to stuttering again

possibly

but unlikely, I think it's just a resource issue, likely all hands on deck for BF6

so issues with BF2042 take a back seat

[kindred flint]

It's a test platform for the next game

[zealous loom]

Try turning off uniform solider aiming and see if it feels better

[kindred flint]

They don't care about that part

[crude niche]

It's not just cheaters. Their patch is faulty. Some like myself can't play despite having secure boot on

[autumn igloo]

that is wild but ima be so fr tryna get that first launch to work was the worst experience i’ve ever had with a game in my life

no clue

i bought this one for 4 bucks cus i wanted to try it lmao

bf4 used to be my favorite game as a kid

[wheat shuttle]

What is up with this Secure Boot BS?

[vocal tusk]

Yup, is not an appropriate answer to the question they asked

[wheat shuttle]

Basically, the game is unable to run now on my PC. Many others have this issue and the suggested fix isn't the option.

[vocal tusk]

Secure boot being enabled is EAs attempt to reduce cheaters ability to cheat in their games. This is likely a testing ground for an implementation of AC methods for the next game

[wheat shuttle]

So any solutions?

[vocal tusk]

I dont know what your issue is, so cant provide solutions

Step 1 is figuring out what their hardware is

[wheat shuttle]

There is a secure boot error when starting the game, and then it closes. I read through, went to the BIOS and enabled it, but it still doesn't load up. Does anyone here have any insight? Whether I pay for BF6 depends on the game after launch. I wont preorder a BF game until they fully unfk themselves.

[vocal tusk]

What is your CPU and motherboard

Is this person a bot?

[wheat shuttle]

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D and Asus B650-E

[vocal tusk]

Hmm...doesnt windows require fTPM to be enabled for secure boot to work on AMD platforms

[wheat shuttle]

I'm not sure, this is the first time I've had an issue like this

[vocal tusk]

Im not the most knowledgeable on this subject TBH. Maybe @remote kiln or @obsidian tide are around and know more about Secureboot and AMD

Let me reboot and see what I have, or have not enabled. (I also had to enabled secure boot for 2042 to work last week)

[remote kiln]

update your bios, secure boot will have itself turned on by default along with TPM

[wheat shuttle]

I haven't played since the pre-Alpha weekend when I jumped on today, and can't, so Ill jump to OW2 for a bit

[chilly jacinth]

Make sure you've also updated the anticheat

[haughty crest]

doesnt it auto update the anti cheat

[arctic grove]

Hi

[haughty crest]

Hi RenaX

[arctic grove]

Hello Achilles

[rain violet]

I had to manually run the updater in the folder

[chilly jacinth]

It's supposed to auto update but sometimes it just doesn't

[crude niche]

I'd like to, but we'll see

Why did you ask me that?

[arctic grove]

Btw is it just me or are battlefield 2042 lobbies this dry?

[crude niche]

Yeah it depends largely on if they fix their implementation of this anti hacker stuff. For me it broke my game. Can't play even with secure boot on.

if BF6 does the same thing, I'll be immediately refunding

[agile raptor]

oh my god , today update removed all game mode that was fun and playable .... game is broken and nothing is fun now 😦 , was my best week ever on bf2042 .... so sad game is trash today ....

[arctic grove]

Damn..

So we are mostly the only playerbase left? Lmao

[prime trail]

Thank you I did do that and it feels better but still nothing close to what I expected, just feels clunky and unresponsive

[chilly jacinth]

That's 2%

Thought we were talking about when they changed the secure boot requirement

[arctic grove]

So um

You guys playing rn?

[chilly jacinth]

I did 10min ago

[arctic grove]

@chilly jacinth you down to play next time?

[chilly jacinth]

looks like the normal roller coaster to me

pretty damn similar to other dates on the chart

[leaden temple]

if playing means 2/64 in a lobby, yes

[chilly jacinth]

Maybe

[arctic grove]

Lmao

It’s kinda getting sad ngl

[chilly jacinth]

I had full 128p lobbies

[desert plover]

BF NEXT BIG GAMEMODE

Strategic conquest is arguably battlefields most popular game mode.

PS5 Live server counts as per 20:15 UK time.

Conquest strategic : 24
Conquest Tactical : 10
Breakthrough : 13

What does this say about what’s the games popular diverse game modes. also, what type of game mode would be a ‘Franchise’ refreshing idea.

What does the community suggest.??

[chilly jacinth]

March and April had similar dips

[remote kiln]

so be aware there is an inherit issue with this game in regards to an artificial input delay, with that being said what you can do is turn off future frame rendering and tune in your coefficient value correctly which should "alleviate" it, somewhat, but if it feels delayed that is a problem you can't fix

[chilly jacinth]

If you're playing at 60 fps it's gonna feel terrible regardless

[remote kiln]

ah he's console

well rip didn't read the label

[rain violet]

All the frames in the world doesn't stop it from feeling terrible

[zealous loom]

To be fair controller feels like ass on console and PC with 2042

[thorny steeple]

Anybody wanna squad up? Got the game yesterday and out of the like 15 games I've played only 2 of them I was placed in had just 1 other person micd up. Super boring playing alone

Watched a video on best controller sensitivity settings for the game, that made it feel a lot better.

[haughty crest]

ill try that

testing in game after updating anti cheat

still getting lag, even in menus

yep game still bricked

thank you EA 😄

[obsidian tide]

Hello, @wheat shuttle . Did you go over this?

[rain violet]

Try M&K it's even worse.

[slow burrow]

Even with rolled back drivers this piece of shit game still black screens.

Only EA could fuck up this badly and still try to justify it somehow

[zealous loom]

Oh I know, both inputs are pretty bad. Hopefully BF6 improves on that

[slender marsh]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[oblique vigil]

Where can I play the Condor and Hind now.

[obsidian tide]

Unfortunate, but very well, then.

[obsidian tide]

Wait, I have an idea.

Just one.

Probably not going to fix anything, but worth a shot.

[obsidian tide]

If it is blackscreening on startup, I would presume that maybe some codec extension from the Microsoft Store is being checked for and not found on the system, or is corrupted.

For some reason, my RX 7600 (Older board; 8GB VRAM Only) has managed to get away with launching the game even on the latest, issue-having drivers. I wonder if one could isolate it to specific codec extensions.

Relevant ones for 2042 could be:

1. Web Media Extensions. (Ogg Vorbis, Ogg Theora, WebM VP8)
2. VP9 Video Extension. (WebM VP9)
3. WebP Image Extension. (WebP)
4. HEVC Video Extensions. (H.265. If not provided by OEM, Requires paying for Microsoft's version.)
5. HEIF Image Extension. (Related to HEVC, but for images.)

I will look into selectively uninstalling these and retesting to see if one of them throws an issue like what has been described, but no promises.
———
What I do know is that, for older games, the MPEG-2 Video Extension is required for AMD RX 7000 and RX 9000 Series GPUs, or else some .BIK (Bink) video format movies will refuse to play, and games using them may not launch. This is because hardware support for that codec was dropped as of RDNA 3 and RDNA 4 architnctures and VCN versions. Prior AMD GPUs and NVIDIA GPUs still have hardware MPEG-2 support.

[gilded lava]

is ea really don't want people to play bf2042

[meager shell]

the game works fine for me

[vital quail]

The pc people I play with haven't had any issues that they've talked about

[gilded lava]

when it works it works

but usually it doesn't

[meager shell]

pc gamers should know how to use a pc and be able to fix issues. if you dont wanna learn that stuff stick to console

[gilded lava]

and game companies should know how to make a game that can launch without troubleshooting

it's not giving me anything to work with either but I assume it's anticheat failing to run because I don't see the splash screen

[meager shell]

have you googled it?

[gilded lava]

yes

I even asked here and that day it solved

but next day same thing happened

[meager shell]

try repairing the game files. it might work

[gilded lava]

I'm trying something else right now

I'm running EAAntiCheat.GameServiceLauncher.exe manually right now

[meager shell]

that might work. is your c drive full, you should have like 10% of your drive free or things can get corrupted

[gilded lava]

Less than %10 for sure

But I always low on space

[meager shell]

well just make sure the bar isnt red in the file explorer

if that bar is red you need to delete stuff or your whole windows install can get corrupted

[gilded lava]

That never happened to me

[meager shell]

well it can happen. windows needs space to do things

[gilded lava]

9 years of luck

I know it's bad for SSD but what am I supposed to when all games takes up a lot of space

[meager shell]

get a second one

it's actually bad for hdd's and sdds can be full as long as windows insnt installed on it

[gilded lava]

I will but I need money

[meager shell]

hdd's need space to defrag and ssds dont need to defrag

[gilded lava]

it wasn't for defragment

Also please don't talk to me like I'm tech illeterate

Or rich

Lol

[meager shell]

seems they fixed the windows corruption stuff in recent years. i'm old

[gilded lava]

How old

[meager shell]

yeah sorry i'm used to dealing with tech noobs

38

[gilded lava]

You're not old but definitely not young either

[obsidian tide]

Unfortunately, most users only bought a PC for the destination/work/social/whatever, not the journey of troubleshooting.

[obsidian tide]

Or it is dependent on a few things.

[gilded lava]

I'm 27 and it's close to not young

[meager shell]

the hard drive space thing. it looks like it will give you an error instead of messing up your install

[gilded lava]

in my case these days I don't have enough time for myself and troubleshooting eats my own time

[meager shell]

i used windows xp for too many years i guess

[obsidian tide]

I see. A little more graceful, then.

[obsidian tide]

When did you move to Windows 10?

[gilded lava]

My record is few MB left on the drive

Not intentional

But you definitely feel it

[obsidian tide]

At least get an external drive to move videos, photos, and other things off of that if need be.

At some point.

[gilded lava]

I already done that

[obsidian tide]

How big is that drive?

[gilded lava]

6 TB external drive

[obsidian tide]

Okay then.

[meager shell]

im on 11 now. i used xp for like 10 years though

maybe try installing the game on a faster ssd. extermal ones are not very fast usually

[gilded lava]

480 GB

[gilded lava]

No it's on the SSD

[obsidian tide]

Very well. My bread and butter was XP MCE, Some of 7, Some of 8/8.1, and mostly 10/11 after that.

[gilded lava]

My external drive is unplugged

[obsidian tide]

The internal one? Okay then.

[gilded lava]

Yes

[obsidian tide]

Last time we checked, it was on the external one.

[meager shell]

a slow hard drive can make games like bf not launch. my friend was doing that and had taht problem like a year ago actually

[gilded lava]

Did I ever mentioned about installation location before

[meager shell]

or he would get stuck in an infinite loading screen

[gilded lava]

it'll took ages to load the game

[upbeat arrow]

Someone tell the Devs to please do locked classes for BF6

[meager shell]

no i want to snipe and rpg choppers at the same time

[gilded lava]

BF 4 had nice approach for that

[robust ether]

They've been locked

[bright arrow]

literally no modes in BF2042 will fill lobbies....ridiculous

[zealous loom]

Ngl I would like to do AR + Medic because people love not to revive

[bright arrow]

I tried quick joining conquest 3 times and sat in the lobby 1/64

[zealous loom]

Last 3 on BT were full, full of tryhards, rare sight

[bright arrow]

then tried weekly game mode....1/128 lol

[gilded lava]

People doesn't even know that you can revive people regardless of class

in BF 2042

[zealous loom]

No I just want to be able to myself in BF6 but I do prefer locked classes if people didn’t suck so bad

[gilded lava]

Or semi locked

[zealous loom]

Yeah I think that’d work tbh

[gilded lava]

Some stuff definitely locked but others unlocked different progression levels

Please lock sniper rifles to recon

Or make them so bad that they'll useless outside of recon class

[vital quail]

Snipers are useless in general

[gilded lava]

What about counter snipers

[vital quail]

Anything to do with sniping is useless

[gilded lava]

Better than mortars

[abstract night]

Dice invented a problem not locking weapons to certain classes just undo the entire thing with the next game

Snipers and mortars good

[gilded lava]

But it's funny to remind people that you can use mortars in all weapons server

[vital quail]

Its not an issue in 2042

[abstract night]

Not having weapons locked to classes?

[gilded lava]

Yeah I was kinda referring to BF3/4

[vital quail]

Yes

[abstract night]

That’s true but that’s cause there’s worst problems

It’s just better for the class system if they get their stuff together with the next game and (maybe) backtrack the decision to not lock weapons to classes (again)

[gilded lava]

I'm curious
is it only me that BF 2042 feels like cod

[vital quail]

Gadgets being unlocked for everyone was a far bigger issue because gadgets actually make the classes

[abstract night]

Not just you

[gilded lava]

Good to know

[abstract night]

Facts idk what they were smoking with that

But still with weapon locks, classes just feel that much more redundant if recon isn’t forced to actually play snipers/DMRs as like the most obvious example

We don’t need more cringe like BF4 recons with M4s and passive/gadget spotting abilities

Which is more of a problem with how bf4 implemented the shared weapons category as a compromise but still

[gilded lava]

Using drone and getting spotting ribbons kinda fun

[gilded lava]

I think dmr being available to all classes is fine

[abstract night]

Just make pdws universal weapons

[gilded lava]

Yeah I can agree to that

Or at least give to assault class too

[abstract night]

It also depends on if medic is folded into assault like it was in bf4 or if it’s like 1 and V and it is its own thing

[gilded lava]

isn't that also the case for BF 3

[abstract night]

Yep I was just giving examples off the top of my head

[gilded lava]

When you think about it support having medic abilities makes more sense but idk

I also prefer assault being the medic

[abstract night]

I wanna say same

Engineer could take shotguns and smgs

[obsidian tide]

They were not locked. 2042's weapons for all, but class weapons get perks system from later versions of the game was retained.

[azure basalt]

wheres CQ assault

they took my CQ ASSAULT from me

[brittle wind]

Why would you want to make soon to be meta class universal?

[slow burrow]

I've been working with PCs for nearly 19 years. I think it's time I get a break and let someone else take the wheel and do shit to make a game that works properly and is enjoyable

[red viper]

just nerf SMG damage ranges into the ground

[abstract night]

Yeah PDWs weren’t too strong in 4 so they could just make them kinda mid

The point should be that shared weapons are playable but choose another class if you want a specific type of gun

[brittle wind]

They will release PP29/ZK383/Automatico of this game then everyone will use it anyways

[red viper]

I don't know why DICE can't balance SMGs right

[kindred flint]

reducing HS multiplier on SMGs years ago is still hilarious

like... just dont reward accuracy go center mass

[waxen heath]

why the hell does c5 dissapear after 30s????

[uneven valley]

Is anyone else as frustrated as I am with this secure boot nonsense? I havent been able to play for quite some time and im really not trying update that for BF2042.

After 3 months of positive steam reviews maybe. Lol

[brittle wind]

No good player aims for head too tbh, everyone aims for center mass

HS only matters for DMRs and snipers

For automatics it's coincidence most of the time

[loud warren]

https://x.com/SpartanWarGames/status/1930060372813259109 - Would apprecaite any reposts regarding the secure boot fiasco. This needs to be aired more for change. There is no way they can get away with this legally.

[vital quail]

[waxen heath]

why are weakspots so inconsistant

hitting anywhere on a heli does 9 damage, including the engine and tail rotor, which imo both should do a ton more damage

[loud warren]

I happen to know someone in the legal team for the UK team of EA as he is a fellow Halo player I met at an event. I'm reaching out to him tomorrow.

I need to see if he can find anything.

It's all groovy, I'll see what I can find out of him and let you know here. Or feel free to DM me and if there are details I can share then I will.

It's a shame because I'm a streamer, on Mondays I play variety games with my chat and since we're all PC players we was greeted with this.

I normally only play Halo in the week.

Good luck

It really sucks for those who not only purchased the game but also can't no longer player single player.

I have just DM'd the person I know who works at EA on Twitter.

I've included my tweet as well as a breakdown of asking if there is anything in the EULA that states they can lock the game out of users; especially single player campaign users.

[vital quail]

2042 doesn't have single player...

[obsidian tide]

Probably a reinterpretation of the System Requirements Obligation clause, where EA is not responsible for issues you experience if your system hardware does not meet whatever system requirements EA declares. Certainly as a Minimum. It is the player's responsibility to be on target and bring its system up to being on target, or else.

[obsidian tide]

Battlefield V does, and it is affected.

[loud warren]

I suppose the thing we need to ask. Is this against regulations for countries law's about selling a product and hindering it obsolete after release. Yet a user has payed for the product.

Does the single player campaign reqiuire online connection?

Does it also state online connections must always be made to the game when sold?

[obsidian tide]

If it has achievements and stat tracking tied to it, purely through technicality...

[loud warren]

Sure, does that also stop users from playing single player which normally/typically doesn't require?

I know I'm pushing a grey area here, but that's why there are laws/regulations and things like this for a reason.

You have to ask

[obsidian tide]

Dunno, haven't tried it yet. There is currently a presumption that if the initial EA account login fails, the game can't be played, as all things are tied to the EA account login to the game and associated EA App. All EA games on PC, post-Battlefield 3, require the EA App and EA account as a component, or the EA Account login itself on consoles.

[loud warren]

I use Destiny 2 as an example. That game states on the box it always requires an online connection.

[slow burrow]

You wanna also address the issue with AMD drivers?

[loud warren]

Could you tell me whats happening with that? I'll also research that and include in my tweet. Thank you.

[slow burrow]

Black screen on startup + a chance of BSOD

[loud warren]

Is that after checking the display on integrated graphics?

[slow burrow]

My CPU doesn't have integrated graphics to my knowledge

[loud warren]

If you have any photo grabs or any errors from your BSOD?

More detail the better and I'll include

[slow burrow]

It only mentioned something about the anticheat itself and the second time around it was caused by the AMD driver completely shitting itself and causing the whole system to BSOD

Its not just Battlefield that does this either

[obsidian tide]

Ever since AMD driver versions 25.4.1 through to 25.5.1, all Frostbite Engine and especially Battlefield games have been marked by AMD as having stuttering and rendering artifacts.

On RDNA 2 cards (RX 6000 Series), affected driver versions will also cause game crashes. This user specifically has tried to roll back, but even then, black screens on launch on top of EA Anticheat throwing something.

Please note that EA Anticheat is also liable to hang on launch under the right conditions. This presents itself as The Infinite Startup Movie bug, where certain elements related to Connecting To Online Services do not load.

[slow burrow]

Its every title that interacts with the EA app, including Mass Effect Andromeda on my end

[obsidian tide]

Mass Effect Andromeda is also a Frostbite Engine game.

[loud warren]

I mean I can add, but is this something happening outside of the secure boot issue?

[slow burrow]

Both in Secure and out of it

[loud warren]

I gusss I just want to tackle the main issue that's been brought up as of recent.

Rather not muddle the waters up

[obsidian tide]

All Frostbite Engine games are affected by these driver versions. It is external, but since you want to press getting locked out of games as a legal issue, the user is presenting it as a supplement to your case as a general Inability to Play Purchased Game issue.

[gloomy wyvern]

Let me run you through a hypothetical real quick...
HARM says they'll run my score, proceeds to leave in the second sector during breakthrough

Oh wait it's not a hypothetical

My bad I tend to get those mixed up a few times

[loud warren]

How long has this happened for?

[obsidian tide]

Affected Driver versions date back to February or March 2025.

At least months.

[loud warren]

Thanks

I'll see where my tweet and message to my friend who works at UK EA.

I'll let you know as soon as I can. It's 2:15am right now 😄

[uneven valley]

except a loss of good players

[obsidian tide]

Other ways the game and GPU driver can crash include the following message if ever the display's power saving mode triggers:

"DirectX function "Dx12Renderer::waitOnSwapChain Gpu timeout detected" failed with DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG ("The GPU will not respond to more commands").

If not simply a driver-induced bug, one theory is that there is invalid code here that was passed as valid HLSL and compiled anyway, left uncaught for ages and written off as purely driver issues/GPU manufacturer's fault/Player's fault.

Few hundred to 1,000 players minimum can't launch 2042, BFV, presumably also Apex Legends, and other titles due to EA Anticheat throwing exceptions about not detecting Secure Boot enablement in the exact ways it wants to see that enabled on a client system.

[obsidian tide]

Here is a compiled checklist of known things EA Anticheat wants a client system to have set in UEFI Firmware/BIOS settings in order for the anticheat to pass its Secure Boot checks.

Yeah, but a Spring Sale happened then.

That metric is influenced in part by players leaving after the sale.

I would rather compare May 2025 versus June 2025 metrics.

[loud warren]

So going to say this on a public forum.

My biggest gripe is in a few weeks/months this will blow over and users will reluctantly go ahead and give in.

Something like this needs strong will from the community to say hang on, this is a real issue here. This needs sorting.

It wouldn't be much of a blow if its a requirement for future games. But since this is an active product and has been for some time its treated differently.

[azure basalt]

guys is the friendlist still broken ? i can't see what game my friendlist playin

[obsidian tide]

I know it is also affected by EA Anticheat serving bans for Service Disruption when it caused by a default Antivirus setting or other things a user would not expect, but that muddies the data further.

[loud warren]

I just urge anyone here reading to please do not give into these demands yet until we figure out what we can do about it.

[obsidian tide]

EA is all-powerful. It took resorting to EA Forums posts to even prove that a default BitDefender Antivirus setting was conflicting with EA Anticheat and leading to it serving bans for Service Disruption. That was after exhausting the official Ban Dispute appeal limit of 2 Tries before the case gets dismissed with prejudice, going through stages of grief over $1500+ spent on 2042 over two prior years (Complete Game Content Ownership moment) being in vain, refusing to accept it, and just so happening to be able to isolate and troubleshoot what caused/contributed to it while still being banned.

It took relentless troubleshooting in spite of everything to get a ban for typical antivirus software with not so typical security features (Deep Packet Inspection/certificate checks) lifted.

[azure basalt]

i want to join up my overseas friend match because my region is dead can't find any

[loud warren]

Probably locked out of the game due to Secure Boot 😅😭

[obsidian tide]

This varies by user. I can see it, at least. No amount of EA App uninstalling and reinstalling did anything?

[azure basalt]

nah.. i don't want reinstall my ea app

i think its not the software issue its the game issue

[dusk gulch]

Which is generally better for straight vertical recoil reduction - the Warhawk or the Champion?

Warhawk seems to increase the handling stat more but it also improves Horizontal Recoil (which is not what I’m looking for)

[vital quail]

??? It sounds like you know the answer then. Choose the one that reduces vertical recoil

[obsidian tide]

The setting causing the conflict in question was BitDefender's Online Threat Protection's Encrypted Web Scan subfeature. Not required to use its Online Threat Prevention feature, but definitely enabled by default or by software recommendation as part of the feature's suite of tools.

Any user with BitDefender's Free or Paid Subscription versions will have that feature set as On, and require manual toggling of it to Off to stop the conflict.

It affects other games and Vivox in subtler ways, like losing/stalling packets and Vivox VOIP service cutting out more than it is usually known to, but...It affects EA Anticheat most obviously, for once EA Anticheat has enough of the hangs on launch caused by it, after enough time passes where that happens on a recurring basis, it bans for that.

It is not directly related to Secure Boot mandate hell. It is something completely different that is another layer to its potential woes. This service disruption issue is stated as another issue with EA Anticheat itself, that is still present now, and was present even before Secure Boot was mandated.

It is stated as an example of a systemic issue that software has with EA Anticheat and vice-versa, that an end user will never know about or write off as purely being the affected EA or Other Game's fault until it is too late, and the user gets cut out as a result of it. As well as as part of just how much time and psychological strain may be spent by a user trying to undo this on its own in spite of EA, which most end users never will. They will just move on and despise EA even more for that, voting as if their prior consumption was an investment.

Not really, no. Other than how it installs and launches, net much is known other than that it will operate in a similar vein as Easy Anti-Cheat, but also not.

[loud warren]

Ive recieved a message from my friend at EA. However he is unable to comment.

Him and the team are aware and have seen it across a few platforms.

Let's hope something is done about it.

So unfortunately I can't share anything further at this moment. But we press on and make sure accountability is made and a change implemented.

[zealous loom]

Hardline is better than 2042

Please save us BF6

[indigo ruin]

i never played hardline, but bf2042 is pretty fun

ive played for like 200+ hrs so far

[obsidian tide]

BF4 but cops, robbers, and driveable cars as Objectives.

[chrome current]

CODfield

[chrome current]

I miss BO2

They should do a remaster

[zealous loom]

Sounds good until they add in their new EOMM and disbanding lobbies

and unicorn fart executions

among other things

[chrome current]

Yeah, I haven't touched COD since 2019

Which was a great campaign, imo

Very boring multiplayer

[zealous loom]

I pulled a stupid and mained CoD after BFV from 2020 till BO6 and noped out

I thought 2042 would be the savior

[chrome current]

I can't recapture the magic of playing splitscreen next to my high school friend

Which is all I really want

[obsidian tide]

Which COD?

[chrome current]

What happened to Battlebit, anyway

Was hot sh*t for a while

[zealous loom]

MW19, CW, VG, MWII, MWIII then BO6 and quit

Played since BO1 tho

[obsidian tide]

Destroyed by its own devs and controversy around them.

[chrome current]

What's EOMM

[obsidian tide]

Supposedly.

[obsidian tide]

Engagement-Optimized Matchmaking. Exists to keep a player playing, but in an unsatisfied way.

[zealous loom]

Engagement Optimized MatchMaking

It is essentially like a slot machine. It has SBMM but favors retention time so if you are a Gold or Diamond player and do above average for yourself for a few games, you face Iridescent players (the best under top 250) for example

[chrome current]

Sounds like hell

[obsidian tide]

Its downside is the sheer amount of rebounding effect depending on how well you did. You can't have a satisfying match streak.

[chrome current]

I prefer the chaos of running against casual dads who play once a week and clans that kill my while filming their ladder stall whatever the hell videos

[zealous loom]

They have even said themselves that the top players lose retention time. So essentially the better you get the more punishing matches you get. So no point in "getting good" as they say

[chrome current]

It's like Oblivion

[obsidian tide]

For all will be made to lose out in time.

[zealous loom]

I remember playing in matches in old CoDs seeing people way better then me and thinking how I can get better. Now in CoD if you get better you just have less fun

[chrome current]

Yeah. Hopefully none of that comes to battlefield

[obsidian tide]

Now everyone is forced to be a sleeper sweat.

[chrome current]

But really, whats the point of a system like that

[zealous loom]

I would block the word battlefield in my browsers and social media permanently

[obsidian tide]

Addiction to the matches that were fleeting highs in performance.

[chrome current]

You can just doooo that

[zealous loom]

The lesser skilled players get less pissed in matches so they spend more money on skins

[chrome current]

You're a cyborg already. Altering your own reality with software

[chrome current]

I miss games catering to the best

[zealous loom]

There are plenty of games out there for casuals, nothing wrong with that. PvP games do not need a system rigging your experience in any way unless it is ranked play

[chrome current]

Also, can we get an AS VAL or other 9x39 caliber weapon

Excellent and beautiful looking guns

[chrome current]

I agree, I agree.

[obsidian tide]

BSV-M was in 2042, but it is part VAL, part VSS.

The 9A-91 was Portal exclusive if it at all appeared in 2042.

[chrome current]

Yeah. I wouldn't mind seeing something similar in 6 or whatever they call it

Also, what is up with Battlefield adopting the COD side grip

I think that is ugly form. Idk if its effective, but it looks awful.

[obsidian tide]

Oh, wait, and the AM-40 is based on the AM-17, and its AMB-17 suppressed variant (integral silencer and subsonic ammo) uses 9x39.

[obsidian tide]

OpErAtOr claw grip.

2042's weapons can be best described as 2020s pattern weapons made into 2030s and 2040s pattern ones in-setting.

[chrome current]

Hmm

EA shoukd give permission to do a Cyberpunk corporate war spinoff battlefield

[obsidian tide]

Whether already produced, or existing as prototypes.

[obsidian tide]

Battlefield Edge: Conquest Catalyst.

[chrome current]

How do we implement Adam Smasher

Personally kind of prefer that he's Cyberpunk's Darth Vader now and not a mediocre merc

[chrome current]

Tell me the unicorn fart execution exists

[zealous loom]

100% does exist

[chrome current]

Tasteless

[zealous loom]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r3iSQZDq2PY

[chrome current]

"Just like back in 'Nam"

The universe has sense of humor

[azure basalt]

does BF have a name Tag ??

really cool if we have one

[grand socket]

so secure boot is a must now to play the game ?

[obsidian tide]

Correct.

And it must be passed in a way EA Anticheat accepts.

[obsidian tide]

The compiled UEFI Firmware and BIOS settings checklist so far.

1. Secure Boot Status: Enabled.
2. Secure Boot Type: Standard. Not Custom.
3. Firmware TPM: Enabled.
4. UEFI Capsule Updates: Enabled. (Used in case UEFI shows Invalid Public Key or ESRT Firmware Status on boot with it Disabled. Assume you need to set it as Enabled anyway.)
5. OS Type, if configurable: Windows UEFI. Not Other OS. (If set to Other OS, EA Anticheat flags Secure Boot as not being enabled, even if Windows Security or otherwise reports that it is.)

[real zinc]

the game crashing when i get killed by anything withint 20m is fun

i sure do love this game

[near cloud]

What happens if you start BF2042 without secure boot on with a secure boot compatible PC?

[obsidian tide]

EA Anticheat throws an exception and refuses to fully launch the game.

[near cloud]

Nice, I saw a post saying a guys PC broke down by starting 2042 without Safe Boot

[obsidian tide]

It is possible that it failed to properly install, mount, and embed itself into the kernel correctly.

Or, the user tried doing a MBR2GPT conversion of drive partition handling as part of enabling it, and managed to brick it that way.

Or, the user set something in the UEFI/BIOS settings wrong, or saving settings and booting failed anyway.

The experience with attempting to account for the new mandate varies by user.

[remote kiln]

if you have an extremely old harddrive in MBR or pc (that's unsupported), yes it may not work, but if it's anything within the last 7/8 years, it will be fine

[obsidian tide]

It may be a false memory, but prebuilds as late as from 2016 may have had MBR partitioning by default, but were convertible to GPT and UEFI.

[graceful stirrup]

238isback and s666_JRodiguez vehicle rage hacking

[warm steppe]

Free money dm me

[naive ember]

[remote kiln]

I was more implying had a hard drive but not touched it in forever

[obsidian tide]

Very well, then.

[obsidian tide]

Did this user claim to have recent enough hardware by model in said PC?

[minor garnet]

broke down? how so?

hardware specific? or OS based corruption?

[radiant pendant]

lmao implementing anti cheat to game that is almost dead you only play with closed amount of players and now whole "playerbase" need to tinker with their windows

[chilly jacinth]

Anticheat has been in place for awhile

[misty pewter]

muches popcorn

[crude juniper]

so is there no word from the devs letting us play their game again?

[leaden temple]

is that why I'm not getting even a single other person queuing into my lobbies?

[crude juniper]

100%, not all people who play game know what bios is

game is bricked for real

[misty pewter]

its the lack of clear understanding evident by this silly idea that gets me

its like if some kid copying homework wrote ac and just decided to check all the boxes

rather then understand the assignment

[indigo ruin]

[crude juniper]

especially if your game is the least desirable game to play out of the franchise

[misty pewter]

sb doesn't block vuneral drivers from being tampered with at run time doesn't prevent user from getting access to unsigned code because tpm ins't enforced and VBS/core isolation / driver blocklists are still optional/not enforced

good job microsoft

so all they did was provide reasons for people to go play something else while the cheaters laugh all the way to the bank lol

Nothing is faulty just incrediably stupid lol

[remote kiln]

a lot of armchair experts here today apparently

[crude juniper]

was much better when the cheater problem was left to the dedicated server admins

[misty pewter]

there instructions are faulty tho no mention of checking if bitlocker is enabled or that mbr2gpt can render a system unbootable / data loss

No arm chairs here I got the full lazyboy with heated/cooled seats

why is legal even sticking there nose in ? what

lol they are in a pissing match with rewasd of all people lol

is this bizzaro world ?

macros lol

wow

[remote kiln]

there is no legal team there lol what are you talking about

[misty pewter]

I didn't think this saga could get any stupider but this is pretty good

[fickle wharf]

dude trust me tier

[misty pewter]

heres a thought drop controller aimassist if that doesn't exist nobody would bother lol

that post from the ac guy clearly was not read by pr before being publish it reads as "im mad that this software vendor won't police the internet for me"

[remote kiln]

you believe some random guy? dude seriously?

[misty pewter]

the TrustMeBro Guarantee

that post accually needs to comedown because its just gonna drive people to use rewasd

that was a pretty brainlet post to air that in public

good way to ensure the internet does something tell them NOT Todo it

the situtation brought on by overzelious ac blocking rewasd to begin with

they started a war they can't commit to fight lol

dont want people macroing and spoofing controllers stop enabling it to be so effective

Remove RAA/sticky aim for the pc port entirely stop relieing on user input to calculate your recoil

write good gameplay code remove incentives for people to abuse the systemss you put in place the problem will self correct

"game devlopers heres a aimbot to use with your silly control pad" but please don't use it ...

[remote kiln]

[misty pewter]

frogconcern all you like but once again causals ruin everything

a controller is not a acceptable input method to play a fps game and thus should receive the absolute minimum level of support

[remote kiln]

right

[chrome current]

I agree

Casuals bad

But the executives love casuals, so we need to remove the casuals ourselves

Like barnacles

[misty pewter]

sharpens putty knife lets get to scrapeing then

"causals waaa mommy this guy is cheating" also causuls teeeheeeee ima cheat im so 1337

???? you don't publicly give callouts to people cheating ?

thats universially bad

goes back to playing battlfield 2

[vocal tusk]

Source: Trust me bro

[arctic owl]

sourse: i made it up

[vocal tusk]

EAC is also dogshit

¯_(ツ)_/¯

AC software also doesnt just become good overnight

Making fake claims of law suits and contact with legal teams is cringe AF. If you want to make reports on issues, and try to actually help thing, make detailed posts on the forums

You do, youre all talk

Anyone taking actual legal action would be told to shut up on public forums

OK Erin Brockovich

[rain violet]

Your lawyer would be the one looking for additional people through a class action suit if one was filed, not you.

The anticheat is awful and the latest addition has probably prevented more legitimate players from accessing the game than the cheaters but that isn't probably even grounds for a suit anyway.

[vocal tusk]

If you have info that may help others diagnose/fix issues, its still best to add it to the forums.

even if its "I had this issue, I have no way to fix it" its valuable info

[misty pewter]

MMMMmmm hard no on that

been there done that wasted 3 years of my life trying Nope

[fickle wharf]

[misty pewter]

I still don't know what hes on about

howd we get from forum post to lawsuits?

great so stfu about it

instend

download battlfield 2 and play that

https://playbf2.tilda.ws/en#about lets goo

[arctic grove]

he said in other words be helpful. here is my help for eu players that where denied for not getting refunds Article 19 : Article 19
Modification of the digital content or digital service

1. Where the contract provides that the digital content or digital service is to be supplied or made accessible to the
   consumer over a period of time, the trader may modify the digital content or digital service beyond what is necessary to
   maintain the digital content or digital service in conformity in accordance with Articles 7 and 8, if the following condi
   tions are met:
   (a) the contract allows, and provides a valid reason for, such a modification;
   (b) such a modification is made without additional cost to the consumer;
   (c) the consumer is informed in a clear and comprehensible manner of the modification; and
   (d) in the cases referred to in paragraph 2, the consumer is informed reasonably in advance on a durable medium of
   the features and time of the modification and of the right to terminate the contract in accordance with paragraph 2,
   or of the possibility to maintain the digital content or digital service without such a modification in accordance with
   paragraph 4.
2. The consumer shall be entitled to terminate the contract if the modification negatively impacts the consumer's
   access to or use of the digital content or digital service, unless such negative impact is only minor. In that case, the
   consumer shall be entitled to terminate the contract free of charge within 30 days of the receipt of the information or
   of the time when the digital content or digital service has been modified by the trader, whichever is later

[vocal tusk]

I meant in regards to solving anti-cheat/secure boot issues. I dont care about EULA contents

Would need to be solved on a case by case basis

I cant give you a one answer solves all.

[misty pewter]

sure you can don't retroactively add requirements that break the title for people that paid for it

thats litterally what most people are mad bout they bought the thing ea broke the thing they rightuflly want the thing back

[fickle vector]

@arctic grove has some valid points, not everyone can enable Secure Boot and that screws those for no good reason other than lazy anti-cheat implementation

and it still doesn't solve cheats, there are cheaters that snipe across maps

been in a few games where the snipers are in uncap, blatant cheats on with headshots across map and you can't do a daym thang

[remote kiln]

sure you can, they did it for battlefield 1 and 5, made driver revisions a certain minimum, etc, they can do what they want

[misty pewter]

Can != should

espescially for no tangable gain

[vocal tusk]

A dead/dying game is good a place as any to start testing more in depth anti-cheat measures

[remote kiln]

yeah they absolutely should enforce standards to limit the ability for hackers at the expense of people on 10 year old systems, nothing of value is lost

[misty pewter]

no it isn't lol

[fickle vector]

I mean yea, it could be used as a test bed but it shouldn't, it breaks the games for lots of folks through no fault of their own

[vocal tusk]

Hey, everyone wanted to test the next BF right, now you get to test the new games anti-cheat

[misty pewter]

if your definition of good place is lets not nuke the launch of our old title because we know this is going to cause issues is 'a good place'

[remote kiln]

ea enforcing user security, is the problem lol

that is users not doing it themselves at all

[fickle vector]

their forced user security doesn't work though

cheaters are still in the game

[remote kiln]

yeah cause it doesnt go far enough yet

secure boot, is a small minimum floor lol

[vocal tusk]

*yet

lol

[remote kiln]

you have no right to refund the game, EU law in software interopability doesnt give a person on 15 year old hardware a right to support for forever

which is why nobody is entitled to refunds when a server's game shuts down

[misty pewter]

god dam you are gonna make me stop playing bf2 to correct you kids again .

[fickle vector]

BF2 > *

[misty pewter]

fine here we go again things secure boot does NOT Do: prevent cheating - in any capacity period you can map kmode drivers from user space enforcing driver signatures at boot does not apply to a running os. it does not force vbs or tpm on both of which you need to help mitigate those aforementioned vunerable drivers

the ONLY thing it does it prevent you from loading a unsigned unverifed untrusted driver AT BOOT, after the system is up you may do as you please

[remote kiln]

yeah as I've said for weeks HVCI enforcement is required, that has far more implications than this does though, and they won't do that so long as it runs on windows 10

you're not correcting anyone

the minimum requirements for this game are hardware that have secure boot, if you don't meet that requirement, that's your fault

[misty pewter]

that is incorrect

https://www.ea.com/en/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/system-requirements

[remote kiln]

do none of you read? those processors have secure boot support

[misty pewter]

no ware does it mention secure boot just because the hardware required will likely also support secureboot thats not the same thing

[fickle vector]

they need to do hardware bans on known cheaters, their account bans get mitigated like side steppin a pebble

[remote kiln]

??

[misty pewter]

processors dont have secureboot

thats not a processor technology

[remote kiln]

dude, SB, is tied to the processor, thats where the root of trust exists

[misty pewter]

its like saying yes I own a car yes the car is capable of double the speed limit should I be required to drive double the current speed limit because they increased the speed limit

[remote kiln]

it doesnt just magically make a keychain lol

that doesnt particularly matter

[misty pewter]

but its OPTIONAL

you are confusing option with requirement

[remote kiln]

if you need to turn it off, then youre outside the remit of the current requirements, about it

[misty pewter]

by your logic all games should use avx because the cpu happens to support avx

[vocal tusk]

I mean, there are many games that crash/wont work if your CPU doesnt have AVX

[misty pewter]

windows 10 did not/ does not require secureboot and unless you wipe your drive and do a full reload you will not have secure boot

windows 10 is still listed under mins

ok we done here ?

[remote kiln]

why would windows 10 requirements have anything to do with this game?

lol

[vocal tusk]

Bro desperate to get the last word, despite having half answers to everything

[misty pewter]

you just said the hardware has secureboot ? the os doesn't not by default unless it was installed and partitioned as gpt-efi

[fickle vector]

no, I wanna solo helo you outta your F35!

[remote kiln]

no i said the processor contains the key for the RoT, root of trust, is, secure boot

as i said 5 minutes ago thats why the processor matters because thats where the RoT begins

[misty pewter]

you are trying to make the implication that supported features and required features the same this is utterly incorrect

[remote kiln]

incorrect for what?

lol

[misty pewter]

my car supports going 113mph does that mean I should be required to drive everyware at 113mph ?

No it does not that would be insane

[remote kiln]

all i said was its literally on the minimum requirements, which it is, theres nothing to dispute here

[misty pewter]

ITS NOT

[fickle vector]

YES!

[misty pewter]

You keep missing the point

[vocal tusk]

CPUs and an OS that supports SB are tho

[fickle vector]

MOAR SPED!

[remote kiln]

actual crazy arguments rn lol

[misty pewter]

if it was that "motherboard with secure boot enabled required would be asterisked in the requirements

Is is NOT ok end of debate

it is not explicitely defined in the min requirements

you can't retroactively change that and declare a new reality

[vocal tusk]

The big..."Secure boot is now required" when you boot the game without it might point to it being a requirement bro

[misty pewter]

well you can but you are a shitbird if you do it

[remote kiln]

the 6600k, supports, secure boot, its a hardware requirements sheet, they list the minimum requirements, theres nothing to argue about here

[vocal tusk]

"ITS NOT A REQUIREMENT!!!!!!!!"

[misty pewter]

its going in circles with this guy he doesn't get it

[vocal tusk]

lol

[remote kiln]

youre the only one who doesnt get it because you said its not a "processor thing", when it absolutely is

the same goes for TPM

[leaden temple]

what is the goal of this discussion

[misty pewter]

tpm is not a processor thing either

[remote kiln]

lol

dude

[misty pewter]

some cpus support tpm

[arctic grove]

Secure boot is here to stay. they want it in next BF game

[remote kiln]

pls do basic research on these technologies

[vocal tusk]

Bro just said he wanted to "school us" then posted a load of nonsense

[misty pewter]

stand alone tpm chips exist and are fully supported

[loud warren]

Would you like the screenshot of the DM?

I will hide user as I am not prepared to release names.

[remote kiln]

here is a diagram on the root of trust

[misty pewter]

No I just happen to know more then this kids and they are grasping trying to aruge with somebody that knows better

[remote kiln]

right sure go on then

[fickle vector]

and it'll still be a fail like it currently is in BF2142

FAIL

[misty pewter]

maby more people might be tempted to try and get it working for a NEW title vs a old dead one

[remote kiln]

sure, doesnt matter to me in particular

[loud warren]

Ill dm

[vocal tusk]

1000% its just gonna be a discord DM from a friend saying that something happened, with no legit info or proof

thats not their concern

[remote kiln]

^