#battlefield-2042

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vital quail
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Crossplay off will always result in harder to find matches

prisma meteor
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he meant easier or harder matches

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on i guess is easier, since console players are kinda less sweaty and more casual

vital quail
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Depends on the player

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I find that people that complain more about crossplay are not the best at the game, but since he is on PC I don't know what it would look like

naive ember
acoustic mirage
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Lis is really not as good against ground vehicles as crawford with rpgs

prisma meteor
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i believe next battlefield will have crossplay automatically on. Consoles dominating again, it doesn't make sense to limit and divide the matchmaking

acoustic mirage
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the only thing she got it c4/mines and unlimited ammo

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4 rpgs with crawford and ap launcher + at grenade take out ground vehicles way faster

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she is better into air vehicles

prisma meteor
naive ember
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No proof of that dude

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Only the cheating part is correct

arctic grove
naive ember
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Now I'm not coming

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It's mine now

arctic grove
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WTF!

naive ember
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Just finished a redacted and the best squad had 3 console players and 1 pc

brittle wind
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Cringe

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They should've went with BF6

merry heart
next onyx
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It's a placeholder name.

prisma meteor
acoustic mirage
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top players are around 5 k/d 3 kpm

brittle wind
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I would rather want them to name it BF 2043 than BF™

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Reboots are cringe and confusing

glass imp
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Why BF2043? We’re already in 2049 🤔

brittle wind
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Reminds me of a ryan gosling meme leo

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I can't post it tho

glass imp
brittle wind
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We will most likely get a banger trailer as usual BF trailer team delivers since 2016

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Only exception is BFV reveal but even then later trailers are pretty good

cosmic pond
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recoiless m5 doesnt blow up vulcan turret?

kindred flint
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man the dm7 2.5 thermal is fucked up

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half the time i try and ADS with it, its 1x zoom or something leo

frozen loom
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Thermal DXR-1 rolls.

cosmic pond
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champion or arcom muzzle for vhx

low coral
kindred flint
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mistakes were made CursedCatPointing

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i picked it during a battle of the bulge match i joined and it was working surprisingly well despite me not using it for a while.. then in the next match, 128p... it was absolute dog shit HUHDOG

low coral
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its worse than almost every other DMR

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the vcar and bsvm are different but yea

kindred flint
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its like the mk11 in bf4...i wanted to like it but it just wasnt the best

low coral
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svk is def the best for sniping, I see a lot of people using the m39 emr for mid-close range, and bsvm would be one of the best guns in the game if it had a larger mag

kindred flint
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nah it doesnt need to be more broken leo

low coral
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lol

kindred flint
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g428 implementation was still the funniest shit

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i mean redacted is a small af map... but the drop off range on that gun was waaay too high

low coral
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ok i get bf6 is coming so support for 2042 is gonna end but pls add more vehicles dice

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one jet is absolutely insane after three years

quiet shell
low coral
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lol revolutionary war era battlefield would be interesting

eager spire
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it'd be really boring.

kindred flint
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eh when ARs were shit at launch the svk was the king..2 shot any range leo

low coral
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obv not for rlly long range

kindred flint
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idk id just use the bsvm or g428 tbh leo more ammo

low coral
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yeah maybe the g428

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it takes more than 3 shots with the bsvm in my experience

kindred flint
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iirc the 248s range was nerfed to be worse than the bsvm?

faint oxide
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Is this game dead?

acoustic mirage
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starting to get the hang of lis

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shes gross, best overall anti tank specialist with at mines, at grenade, and ap launcher plus her lissile

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crawford is better against ground vehicles with rpgs and the same loadout less mines

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using mines like c5 is a blast and very effective

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shooting down air vehicles and at mine kills are super satisfying

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but 4 rpgs and the wombo combo can solo tanks and armor much easier than lis assuming you can't kamikaze mine em

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crawford can solo 2 tanks with a single resupply

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ultimate squad based is angel, two crawfords with rpgs and a rao with soflam

low coral
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rao doesnt need a soflam because hacking already does that

acoustic mirage
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hacking is range limited

low coral
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I would use blasco with soflam or rao with c5

acoustic mirage
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soflam can tag way further

low coral
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exactly

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blasco is still more helpful to the squad

acoustic mirage
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best anti ground is prob 4 crawfords with rpgs

low coral
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3 crawfords and rao or blasco

acoustic mirage
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a single lis with AT mines suicide mission is just as effective

low coral
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no lis is the best AA

acoustic mirage
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if you can throw a mine onto a tank it two shots it

low coral
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not when paired with a soflam tho

acoustic mirage
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but yes also lissiles king of aa

low coral
acoustic mirage
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its 50/50

low coral
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might as well just use crawford and not die

acoustic mirage
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parachute at mines too

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kamikaze them from another vehicle or from cover and just jump throw mines at the vehicle works

low coral
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best squad in general is angel, crawford, rao, and either blasco or falck in my opinion

acoustic mirage
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for conquest maybe

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breakthrough imo is zain, mackay, falck and paik

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assuming infantry only

low coral
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hacking someone spots nearby enemies

acoustic mirage
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paik sweats can do like 4-8 kpm with pp-29 smokes and wallhacks

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and c5

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its just as good if not better than assault kit

low coral
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yeah if your squad isnt doing anything

acoustic mirage
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idk about that at aarp our squads all go 3kpm for 8 peeps doouble stack, guava goes off for 100 kills

low coral
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i would say zain, falck, paik, and rao

acoustic mirage
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everyone else at 40-60

low coral
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mackay is good for certain maps

acoustic mirage
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zain is my main

low coral
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same

acoustic mirage
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good with the airburst, flushes rats from cover

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and perserverence real good if you high kpm

low coral
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zain, crawford, falck, and rao

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best for each class in general

acoustic mirage
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i play zain, crawlord, falck and paik

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paik is hyper aggro assaulter in disguise with c5

low coral
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i only use rao because enemies that damage u become spotted

acoustic mirage
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i get way more spots with paik

low coral
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maybe for close range

acoustic mirage
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like go 100+ kills with shotgun and have like 150 assists spots

low coral
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not on conquest

acoustic mirage
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redacted conquest

low coral
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i mean maybe ur just that good

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yeah on redacted it's hard to beat paik and a 12m auto with thermal

acoustic mirage
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i stopped using thermal due to the skin and the special k9 holo

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shotguns really dont need thermal imo, might as well get that ads speed

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i use thermal on 880mcs tho

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12m i think the average kill is 10m

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and ur smoking and scanning pushing as paik the thermal doesnt help that build for me

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ive heard good things about rao but i never tried him

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i dont really play conquest a ton tho

low coral
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yeah on qonquest rao or blasco is way better

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blasco for camping unfortunately

acoustic mirage
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i'd rather just assault 24/7 with occasional flexes into crawford, falck and paik

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assault main since bf2

low coral
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medic main since bfv

acoustic mirage
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medics real allstar

low coral
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i started playing with falck

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the self heal is good

acoustic mirage
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yea i have bad habit of assaulting with falck

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go for ez rezzes

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but falck with pp-29 is killstreak machine

low coral
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just flick down and shoot her pistol on the ground and it heals u

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a falck and paik crossover would be broken

acoustic mirage
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honestly zain with med pen and armor self healing is close to falck just cant heal others or rez

low coral
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the med pen doesnt regen fast enough to compare

acoustic mirage
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perserverence tho

low coral
fringe steeple
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Good day! I'm looking for a teammate for a comfortable game in battlefield 5.
I played for 33 hours at level 22, mostly playing as a medic or as a sniper (razvetchik)
I play almost every day.
I WARN YOU, I'm from Russia and I don't know much English. It's advisable that you speak Russian.
На русском языке:
Доброго времени суток! Ищу тиммейта для комфортной игры в battlefied 5.
Наиграл 33 часа 22 уровень, в основном играю за медика либо же за снайпера (разветчика)
Играю практически каждый день.

brittle wind
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Rao is the best spotter in the game

summer birch
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Meh

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No

brittle wind
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Hack one person, all his friends are also spotted

frozen loom
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Casper is. His drone spotting is OP.

summer birch
brittle wind
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You can't use casper on redacted though

frozen loom
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Not really. I just spam Q in the drone. It goes on for miles.

summer birch
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What’s ur favorite gun

naive ember
frozen loom
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VCAR and BSV-M.

summer birch
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Really

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The vcar

frozen loom
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Yeah, I love DMRs.

summer birch
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So do I

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The first gun I got mastery for was the dm7

frozen loom
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DM7 is mid, imo.

summer birch
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They need to add more dmrs

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It’s good

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I like the pp29

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And the mp9

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Same

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Im getting into rush tho

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It’s fun

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It’s pretty much 6 am for me

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Should I go to sleep and wake up late or stay up and be really tired later in the day

naive ember
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Real 2042 players don't sleep

proper relic
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LFG | bf2042 | Frontlines XL | EU | DM me

merry heart
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I'm just kidding

prisma meteor
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hello, are bf3 conquest and tdm of ages permanent ?

prisma meteor
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1942 battlefield tdm feels fun

vital quail
prisma meteor
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btw, breakthrough is attack/defence stuff (instead of payload we have zones) and frontlines is like rush (going back and forth) ?

naive ember
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BT is for big boys and Frontline is for toddlers

frozen loom
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What about conquest?

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I only started playing conquest starting BF 2042.

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I only did TDM in BF4.

frozen loom
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Nah. Redacted is.

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I like Bulge. Its snowy contrast is nice.

vocal tusk
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Bulge is a nice map, but they need to make it conquest classic.

fickle fossil
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Any one wanna farm xp with me ?

past jacinth
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I rebought this on pc a week ago and have been obsessed. Battlefield is much more fun on pc for me.

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Dropped about 25 hours over the past week and a half, happy to say the experience has been smooth and fun

frozen loom
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Bulge is a good map for Lis rockets.

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And sniping.

patent pivot
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Rush for me

brittle wind
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I prefer breakthrough/rush too but maps play better when they are designed for conquest

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If a map plays better in conquest then it's most likely good for rush/breakthrough too

arctic wedge
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Is it weird i play mainly hardcore servers? 😂

patent pivot
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Yes

arctic wedge
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Man i freaking like hardcore servers, makes us pay more attention everywhere instead of relying on the map

blissful osprey
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do you guys get suspicious if you can't see someones stats on battlefield tracker or am I overthinking things?

blissful osprey
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why not

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personally i just don't like tanks who sit behind our base camping doing nothing but trying to snipe people

prisma meteor
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so breakthrough is attack/ defence (actually i thinking this kind of mode is the "default" one in Delta force), while frontlines is closer to rush (back and forth, like conquest but linear).
To be honest Conquest is THE battlefield game mode. Bought bf 2042 just because i had that itch. Some other mp games (df, battlefront ii etc) have also conquest modes but it's not like battlefield

naive ember
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Then comes rush XL giving most of us a break from BT

low coral
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even in cod technically

naive ember
merry heart
naive ember
violet badger
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Do you guys prefer conquest or breakthrough

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WHO LET HIM COOK

placid echo
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Technically already done anyways with gadgets

merry heart
kindred flint
merry heart
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I haven't played Pokemon since Silver/gold

frozen loom
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It's Amoonguss.

merry heart
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Amoogus

frozen loom
brittle wind
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Especially in 2042

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Maps are too big

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For older games depends on the map

hushed lark
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how do I change where the damage indicator is?

naive ember
merry heart
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Porkymon

frozen loom
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Can a Lis rocket turn off the boost?

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Or, is it that once it's boosted, it's boosted for life.

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How useful is the concussion grenade? I never see anyone use it.

merry heart
frozen loom
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Yep.

merry heart
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It's pretty shit.

frozen loom
merry heart
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Almost all engagements I use smoke.

frozen loom
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Seems useful for Dozer.

vital quail
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The only person I've seen use it is tk

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And didn't even realize it also blinds himself

eager spire
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He probably thinks that the concussion grenade shouldn't effect the person that throws it

merry heart
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Have you ever played counter strike

frozen loom
mental delta
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That's the best part about it Yankee boy

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You just gotta enjoy it

naive ember
kindred flint
frozen loom
kindred flint
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you reply to a post from 2 months ago HUHDOG

mental delta
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I thought you said that a few hours ago

kindred flint
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frenchie smoking something fierce frogconcern

mental delta
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It's just my discord app

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It probably bugged or something

kindred flint
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HUHDOG suuure

naive ember
cosmic pond
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the frontlines XL gamemode ALWAYS goes to 45 minutes it gets so fking old during every match lol

obtuse pewter
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you got like 15 smokes to lay down with that loadout 😂

merry heart
kindred flint
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leo yeah the svk is definitely more fun than the dm7

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but what was embarrassing was the squad that couldnt kill me even after i ran out of ammo 💀 guess that pistol didnt win back to back world wars for nothing

echo yew
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dice make 2025 have a dmr meta

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i will jitterclick everyone to oblivion

naive ember
fickle fossil
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Any one able to help me out real quick ? I need one more to test something

kindred flint
echo yew
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Those two were an assault rifle and a battle rifle in the wrong category

brittle wind
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ASVAL has 2 variants, one of them is a DMR(VSS Vintorez), other one is an assault rifle(AS VAL)

kindred flint
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look at this nerd knowing gun names n shit

merry heart
naive ember
merry heart
simple portal
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Hate me but 2042 is overhated

vital quail
simple portal
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Alr

eager spire
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no it's not x2

fickle fossil
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Any one wanna farm weapon mastery with me ?

kindred flint
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how long ago did the svd get put in? frogconcern

echo flicker
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how do i invert my heli controls on pc?

kindred flint
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because apparently in that amount of time it took till now for me to get 100 kills with the svk leo

merry heart
brittle wind
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Weapons are doable in whatever mode you want to play

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Wdym?

fickle fossil
low coral
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yes

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its better for progression

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the game would be really boring if there wasnt goals outside of just winning

vital quail
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It's a video game

eager spire
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i mean, suddenly being able to have a grenade launcher or underbarrel shotgun mid-life is a balancing issue

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if we're gonna talk about this being a video game

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also if we're gonna talk about this being a video game, let's talk about how this one sucks

low coral
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yoo ghost recon

brittle wind
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It's the same as BF4, BF4 didn't had different mags though so you could equip a grip and a laser or a grip and a flashlight

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I think they should go back to that

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I don't like how every weapon can have 50 round drum mags

eager spire
low coral
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quaking in my boots rn

eager spire
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I know that.

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tarrerist

brittle wind
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I think + system will stay if battle royale rumors are true, it might even positively effect other games to simplify attachments in order to copy + system

eager spire
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tarrerist

low coral
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just a question

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not trying to be rude here

patent path
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who's this moron

eager spire
low coral
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no seriously im just wondering

eager spire
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not only are you stupid but you also can't spell. that's hilarious.

patent path
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he can't spell because he's stupid

rapid moon
low coral
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arguing in a discord is beyond me

rapid moon
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Especially about stuff like this

eager spire
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i'm gonna go get food, brb

naive ember
obtuse pewter
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what an unbearable conversation I just had the displeasure of reading

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😂

naive ember
vital quail
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Mods shouldn't have deleted the messages tbh, saved from more embarrassment

low coral
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he probably deleted them himself

rapid moon
low coral
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no need to continue

naive ember
eager spire
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Oh wow

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he left the server actually.

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That's hilarious.

rapid moon
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Or got banned

low coral
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probably got banned

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or kicked

eager spire
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nah, i didn't make a ticket, no way he got banned

low coral
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someone else could have

eager spire
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mods don't care unless it's in a ticket.

vital quail
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I think they sometimes do delete stuff

tardy tree
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if theres one thing i cant stand its a fucking dickhead

vital quail
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Whether it's a real person or automated is the question

rapid moon
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Scott consider me your rival

eager spire
vital quail
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key words may trigger something to happen or something

low coral
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deleting is pointless

rapid moon
eager spire
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uh, Zula, I don't think you understand what rival means

low coral
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I depise caspers

eager spire
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because that just puts you and Scott on the same side

brittle wind
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Most annoying recons are Blasco or Rao imo

low coral
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at least rao and blasco users are decent at the game

brittle wind
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Blasco messes with your hud, Rao tags you when you shoot him

low coral
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casper is for noobs

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if ur sniping on my squad and have less than 10 kills your getting a hovercraft on ur head

brittle wind
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I carried my team to first place with Rao in my last match lol

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With 0 kills

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I did lots of spotting though

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Guy was asking me to get some kills

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I said ''Im a pacifist''

low coral
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lol

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im talking abt the kids who sit in the back with casper and get like 3 kills and dont do anything for the team

brittle wind
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Best way to play with Casper is in 128 modes imo

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Sit back, relax and just spot everyone with no worries

low coral
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yeah

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t1 grinding casper is pretty fun

brittle wind
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He's the only recon I haven't grinded yet

low coral
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I used to

brittle wind
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Other 3 were generally easy

low coral
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got like half way

brittle wind
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I see

low coral
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you have to get 8k spots

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its insane

brittle wind
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Imma try to grind Falck and Lis first instead or Dozer and Mackay

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You can get like 500 spots per match in 128 modes though

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So it takes like 20 games

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Give or take

low coral
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boring

brittle wind
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It takes 10 games if you can spot 800 players per match

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It will consist of spotting same people over and over again though

naive ember
low coral
frozen loom
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Sniping on the cliffslide on Exposure is cringe.

limpid pond
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Anyone got any good audio mixer setting for bf 2042?

brittle wind
limpid pond
brittle wind
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Yeah

limpid pond
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i have a mixer sadlt so in game audio is fine. its my settings on my mixer

brittle wind
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Oh okay

limpid pond
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sounds heavily bass boosted and i hate that

low coral
brittle wind
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Sounds closer to a BF game with war tapes

low coral
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i mean for footsteps

brittle wind
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Yeah

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People say that but can't confirm

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You can try it

quartz acorn
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are snipers any fun to use?

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just downloaded bf42

eager spire
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run

frozen loom
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DXR-1.

low coral
frozen loom
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SWS-10 is overrated.

low coral
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rorsch is the best sniper

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if you know how to use it

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gol and ntw are 2nd

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dxr is 3rd

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sws is 4th

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although it is the best all-around

frozen loom
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Master Roshi takes too long to execute.

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NTW's range is absurdly low.

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It's basically a close combat gun.

low coral
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does the most damage

frozen loom
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I like it, but it's not really a sniper rifle.

low coral
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yeah its an anti armour rifle

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still good tho

frozen loom
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It's the nicest looking sniper rifle.

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Very intimidating.

low coral
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gol has the fastest time to look down scope

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which is why i use it

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with a 6x anyway

frozen loom
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My team was in the lead by 2x the points.

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Then they rested on their laurels.

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We lost.

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How'd we go from 600-300 to 0-200?

granite nova
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has anyone else had any problems with 2042 crashing there whole computer ? i have a ryzen 7 5800x and a 2080 super

low coral
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nope

low coral
frozen loom
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Do you know the saying?

low coral
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oh yeah

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i thought u were talking abt the enemy team

frozen loom
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Talking about my team.

low coral
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yea ik

remote birch
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anyone on?

small forge
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Anyone want to play

remote birch
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yessir

limpid pond
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Anyone know the most common used clip or video recording software for 2042?

frozen loom
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OBS.

limpid pond
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Is obs the best one?

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How's the sound quality

small forge
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@remote birch how we do this

dusty elm
limpid pond
dusty elm
pliant acorn
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Was there once a Battlefield-V channel

visual cradle
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I haven’t been active in a while on this server but for my next idea: next season bring back the Chinese team

arctic grove
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Does anyone know how to lvl up fast in this game. I just been playing holiday protocol

visual cradle
jagged nova
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Anyone else thinking that proximity based chat would be great in vehicles?

remote birch
cosmic pond
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can i change the air vehicle controls? the air rolling and such feels all wrong

cosmic pond
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i dont understand how people pilot air vehicles. are they just all console players that do it? because my mind literally cant wrap around how it works

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and ive tried a whole bunch of times lol

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on mouse n keyboard

low coral
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i cant fly jets very well

cosmic pond
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its just super awkward, i would like to try rebinding A+D to air roll instead of my mouse going left and right

low coral
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honestly controller is so much better for vehicles i know people who have a controller on standby to switch to

cosmic pond
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yeah i bet it is haha

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oh theres an idea

low coral
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I would have that setup if you could use m&k on xbox

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praying that delta force comes with m&k support

eager spire
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because 2042 is not a good game.

low coral
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oh my god

eager spire
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and also people hate it when those players show up in a lobby anyway, because the battlefield community hates players that are good.

low coral
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thats true

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nightbird sweats are the most annoying

eager spire
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yeah how dare people be good at the video game.

small forge
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Anyone looking to teach a noob

low coral
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some of us just want to chill

low coral
jagged nova
eager spire
# low coral whats ur problem 😭

i'm sure you can figure out that I am not a fan, of how the Battlefield community generally treats players that are good at the game. Like, I do not believe that being good at the game justifies any of the shit these people get for doing so.

"some of us just want to chill" they are probably chilling as well, it's a public lobby, they just happen to be better, they're not going to deliberately play worse just to placate random people they don't know.

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so, that's my problem

spare quest
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Or have a god complex

jagged nova
eager spire
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and besides, regardless of all this, it doesn't justify harassment of these people specifically.

low coral
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everyone gets harassed in gaming

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get over it

eager spire
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okay but i would never say it's justified.

spare quest
eager spire
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like, obviously an extreme case, but seriously.

spare quest
cosmic pond
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what button the xbox controller does countermeasures on a jet?

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it didnt pop up with a button, its like its not bound

low coral
eager spire
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yes. I am aware.

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That still doesn't make most of the shit people in the BF community say about anyone who's even half decent at the game okay.

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like the way most of these people talk you'd think you're not allowed to be good at the game.

low coral
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it's only people who make the game not even fun to play that get hate

eager spire
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okay but you have to consider that they're doing nothing but just playing the game. if them being good at the game makes the game less fun, then that's a problem with the game, not the player.

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don't hate the player, hate the game.

quartz acorn
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HOLD STILL

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IVE PLAYED THESE GAMES BEFORE

low coral
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what

cosmic pond
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its an extremely tired squid games meme

eager spire
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i've never seen squid game.

hard jay
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I saw squid game one with the fam

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The sex scene traumatized me

quiet shell
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Which you guys rather have for the next battlefields gunplay? An emulation of CoD's or it's own style?

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Yeah weapons that require skill to use with a realism bend would be nice

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Hell I'd take the next battlefield having a full blown magazine system instead of a bullet count

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Along with a tap to regular reload and keep a mag with a double tap to fast reload and keep a mag

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Yeah precisely like that

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I wonder if going for a stronger realism angle is the goal since Tom Henderson said we'll be able to drag downed teammates

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Though I also expect Enders to have an aneurism about this lmao

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I expect it to be similar to squads dragging

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Or it might even be like Arma's with a preset animation

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Given the Tom Henderson info states this game is expected to be set in the late 2020's, early 2030s, I doubt our characters are wearing proto-plate carriers

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You can drag someone by the shoulder straps or even the carry strap of their plate carrier

fickle wharf
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the drag is a meme like in bfv it never came to be

quiet shell
quiet shell
fickle wharf
vital quail
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Bruh my brain cannot comprehend this boris i just saw

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T1 boris at s14

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But he just got his career high in damage to vehicles with 378 damage

fickle wharf
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any damage counts to t1 boris

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not just vehicles

vital quail
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I know but it just seems wild to play boris that much and that be the highest against vehicles so far

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I guess if they have only played tdm or something it makes sense

fickle wharf
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dont think the career best tracked anything from before it

pine roost
pine roost
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oh please no

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dont do the current gunplay its totally garbage

pine roost
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you've got spread for distance control, random horizontal for some randomness added to recoil but fixed vertical for constency

mossy badge
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they must improve on gunplay

pine roost
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aside from v

mossy badge
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gunplay , gun customization both and animations they must improve on it

pine roost
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animations sure, but don't just be boring and replicate what cod does

brittle wind
pine roost
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it gets old when everything just has the same animation style

mossy badge
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i am not saying that do what cod does i am saying improving on it

pine roost
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the number of times i've seen games do the 'turn to the side, look, turn again, turn around, pause, rotate more, turn back' for its inspect animation is insane post mw2019

mossy badge
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make guns feels and sound good

pine roost
mossy badge
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what people love others will do it

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but they can be unique by adding something of their own

brittle wind
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What BF SHOULDN'T have: Gunsmith

mossy badge
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but yes i dont want to see the current 2042 gunplay it is just so cheap and awful

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guns feels so bad

brittle wind
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That's 90% sound

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416 feels amazing

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Because it uses BF3 sounds

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2042's weapons sounds like nerf guns

pine roost
# brittle wind What BF SHOULDN'T have: Gunsmith

I don't care much about attachments as I always just run the same thing all the time but I hate it to no end when somebody's take on 'weapon customisation' is to just slap on huge negatives on everything to try and give them more personality or something

brittle wind
pine roost
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as in the ghost recon expansion?

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desert storm

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oh wait no that's desert siege

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my bad

brittle wind
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I mean gameplay, I want to have BFV's movement, gunplay(with more spread but less recoil), class system, commander system etc.

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Yeah

pine roost
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i'd mostly be down for that but I still don't like v's spread system

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I know why you like it but i'm just not the biggest fan

brittle wind
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That's why I think they should reduce recoil but increase spread

pine roost
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yeah I can get by that, if they keep the crosshair tied to screen centre

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it confused me slightly when 2042 went from insane spread to next to none and people went from 'hose spread' to 'laser beams' in discussions. There is a middle ground there

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but of course the map design has a huge influence on how we percieve spread due to engagement distances so that'll have a big part in it too

brittle wind
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Spread should kick in depending on the range imo

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Below 50 meters on ARs for example, no spread just recoil

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Above 50 meters, spread should kick in after 5-6 shots

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So you have to either get close to the enemy or learn to burst

pine roost
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that sounds like a rather conviluted method that the angular nature of recoil and spread solves itself

brittle wind
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Spread created a nice skill floor in BF3-4 which isn't available on BFV

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Recoil is far easier to control

vocal tusk
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Its technically identical to control, unless you mean set recoil patterms

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Spread is insanely easy to control tho

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Easier than mastering each weapons recoil in something like CS

brittle wind
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Most people still can't shoot people in front of them with spread though

vocal tusk
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How would extra recoil help in this instance?

brittle wind
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People are used to recoil so when they go full auto they expect to shoot anything they see as long as they control the recoil

vocal tusk
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For extra recoil to work at range and in CQC, it would need to be substantial

brittle wind
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With spread you can't do that, you need to tap fire or go for short bursts

pine roost
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2x pubg's recoil

vocal tusk
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lol

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So TLDR, you want 2042 to be like Delta force. Where RPM is king haha

brittle wind
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DF doesn't have spread though

chilly jacinth
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DF doesn't even have recoil

brittle wind
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That's why people laser beam everyone as long as they can see them

pine roost
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it has a system that basically acts the same way

vocal tusk
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Recoil so as soon as a player master recoil, they can beam others across the map.

pine roost
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it's visual recoil induces the same effect

brittle wind
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Yeah

chilly jacinth
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You can build any gun to literally not even move

vocal tusk
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DF has recoil, but you can remove it and control the upwards recoil that weapons are lasers

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thats why DF also NEEDs spread

brittle wind
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I'm defending spread though not recoil I think you misunderstood me

chilly jacinth
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Probably the worst of all worlds in terms of gunplay and customisation

vocal tusk
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the customization in DF is great. Progress actually leads to better weapons and different behavior for those weapons. They just become too accurate

frozen loom
pine roost
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speaking of delta force, how do I disable chromatic aberration

vocal tusk
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the gunsmithing is probably the only good thing about that game

pine roost
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nobody in their official discord seems to know how

brittle wind
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I dislike gunsmithing

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Exactly because you can create no recoil weapons

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Weapons should have natural advantages and disadvantages

vocal tusk
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But spread that only kicks in past X range sounds weird. It would be very hard judge moment to moment

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Spread solves 90% of the weapon accuracy issues DF has TBH

brittle wind
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Spread shouldn't kick in when you are shooting to an enemy 20 meters in front of you though

vocal tusk
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Spread doesnt kick in tho, the bullets deviate once you auto fire past X threshold

brittle wind
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Yeah

vocal tusk
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Making it distance based sounds terrible

brittle wind
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Not really

pine roost
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also why bother making it spread past a certain distance when up close they'll all land anyway

vocal tusk
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It absolutely does

pine roost
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like, what's the point

vocal tusk
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Exactly

brittle wind
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They won't all land though

vocal tusk
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Like inside 20m, you basically have no spread anyway as is

brittle wind
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That's why people don't like spread

pine roost
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then you aren't close enough CursedCat

vocal tusk
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I dont think most people even understand what spread does for them tho

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If there wasnt spread, sure YOU would land shots easier, but so do all other players, regardless of range

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And making it distance based sounds terrible, because say you start it at 50m...how does it work exactly. Past 50m your bullets start to deviate, even if you burst? How do you control your long range fire fights?

chilly jacinth
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Sounds wack to even try to implement

vocal tusk
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This annoyingly sounds like something DICE would try to do tho, like the terrible sweetspot mechanics from BF1

devout socket
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just got the ak5c...finally!

chilly jacinth
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Enjoy

vocal tusk
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My ideal system would be patern based recoil, with a bit of spread on mag dump.

vocal tusk
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How is their gunplay set up?

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2042 doesnt have patterns of recoil

devout socket
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@brittle wind what build were you using for the ak5c?

vocal tusk
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It has max and min horizontal recoil, but the bullets dont shoot in a defined patern. BF3 had a pretty nice system. It wasnt full patern, but it had readable and counterable recoil directions

chilly jacinth
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It's not completely random

vocal tusk
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Like m16A3 in BF3 was up and to the left, so you could learn to use that weapon better

chilly jacinth
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Anyways hopefully they actually improve on the current gunplay we have instead of trying something else again

pine roost
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I do really like the system in place now to be frank. Good balance of reliability and randomness to keep distances in check

vocal tusk
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I like the current gunplay TBH. It doesnt need much changed

pine roost
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it's just that when you bring up gunplay 70% of the community will start talking about visuals and sounds over actual mechanics

vocal tusk
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I like the plus system from a gameplay perspective, but I think it kinda ruins weapon crafting and balance a bit

brittle wind
vocal tusk
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If plus system returns, I think it should only allow adding a supressor and a different sight...if at all

brittle wind
vocal tusk
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Sounds awful

pine roost
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I’ll say it was nice having about 3 backpacks of ammo though

chilly jacinth
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Just a squads worth of ammo up your ass

brittle wind
pine roost
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It just hyper’s extended banana mags all over again

brittle wind
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But mags shouldn't be interchangable

vocal tusk
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2042s is worse than generic tho

brittle wind
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Nah

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Mags are the issue

vocal tusk
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Its a system made to make you actively not engage with building weapons

brittle wind
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Instead of mags there should be accessory segment

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Like in BF4

vocal tusk
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Because you get all attachments > add the 12 best ones to the weapon, > never have to customizze that weapon again

brittle wind
pine roost
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I’d be hunky-dory if the whole plus system got removed to be honest

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Unless maps are crazy big again in which case maybe I’d be alright with swapping between 1 other scope

vocal tusk
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There is zero risk/reward with 2042s system, cos you never have to risk not using a supressor, or a different mag, or a longer range scope...cos you can instantly just swap to gain the advantage in any given situation.

brittle wind
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2042's weapons are still balanced, everyone uses same 3 weapons on gunsmith games

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Because you don't need to deviate from meta

vocal tusk
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Its a system built off min/max instead of risk/reward.

pine roost
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I can sort of understand the notion that if you take that away people will try to make the build that covers all bases, steering towards one more unified build, but it’s a pick your poison type situation

vocal tusk
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the plus system is a symptom of the games design at launch, and the games hope that the extraction part would be the main focus. It makes total sense to have the plus system in Hazard Zone, where its single elimination. But in a mode where its respawn based...it just dilutes the actual gun building

pine roost
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I still give them the benefit of the doubt that it wasn’t based initially on a br / extraction type mode, but it still slots in with their agency over restriction mantra

brittle wind
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I think plus system will return if they make another BR or extraction mode

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Issue with plus system isn't the lack of attachments, it's issue is specifically mag swap

vocal tusk
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I would be fine with plus system returning tho if it was just changing barrel/scope. there is such a thing as too much freedom, which we also saw at launch with no class locked weapons/gadgets

brittle wind
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If you limit all weapons to have fixed mags then plus system won't have an issue

pine roost
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just scope would achieve a similar goal without going too far

brittle wind
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In BO6 or DF or in Tarkov there is no reason to use high mag weapons, you can just slap on a drum mag to any SMG

vocal tusk
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But then you have players able to swap to grenade launchers/underbarrel shotguns

brittle wind
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That's not an issue imo

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Grenade launchers gives you like 2 grenades per launcher

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1 for incendiary

chilly jacinth
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It kinda is when you don't know if they can oneshot you or not

brittle wind
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You won't be able to solo a tank with 3 grenade launchers

devout socket
vocal tusk
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What 2042 tried to do with high capacity mags was so dumb in hindsight haha

devout socket
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I'm not that great of a cqb guy... I think I'll use that with something else for range instead of the masterkey. thanks!

brittle wind
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If you aren't going for CQB you don't need suppressor

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Or subsonic

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Just make it a high power build

chilly jacinth
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Those still help at range

vocal tusk
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Like all they need to do is double or 1.5x the reload time on higher cap mags...that way its risk reward. Not make them have slower ADS hahga

brittle wind
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Not really

chilly jacinth
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Cause folk won't know where you're shooting em from

brittle wind
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Stealth is still more important in CQC

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I use that build to flank

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Behind enemy lines

vocal tusk
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If you need to rely on players not seeing your directional markers, then youre probably dead already

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Subsonic is an example of an ammo type done right tho

brittle wind
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Ammo types are the issue with plus system like I said not the 4 attachments limit

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BF4 had the same system but with accessories instead of ammo types

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It worked wonders

vocal tusk
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They could have ruined it by adding extended subsonic ammo mags, but instead its the risk of having a small standard damage mag, for the reward of having minimap and tracer stealth

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But there is legit zero actual downside to running drum or extended versions of mags on any weapon

brittle wind
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Yeah

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That's why mags should be fixed

vocal tusk
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Just use whatever has more bullets when it comes to standard and high power ammo

brittle wind
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There would be a reason to use P90 instead of drum mag K30

chilly jacinth
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The biggest downside for em isn't even the ads speed penalty

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it's the reload

vocal tusk
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That was removed also

brittle wind
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Speed is based on ammo type to

vocal tusk
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Reload difference is so small it doesnt matter, just always use the extendeds

brittle wind
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AM40 has an insane reload speed for subsonic for example

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But when you use extended standard then it's a lot slower

next onyx
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Recoil should worsen over time.

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I'm on baord with that idea.

white forge
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boy

pine roost
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would be interested in seeing how that feels

white forge
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does battlefield still make u pay for custom servers?

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like in BF4

vocal tusk
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No, you can make a server and host it for free

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Not sure how persistent server hosting is handled ATM, with there being no premium season pass

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There are no third party servers tho

white forge
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was just thinking about the state of battlefield and things they could do to fix it in their next game

pine roost
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oh they didn't keep server passes going?

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I figured they'd keep a repeated server pass after they dropped the actual passes

devout socket
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when you play assault, do y'all mainly use a holo?

chilly jacinth
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Always red dot

white forge
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Everyone loved battlefield 4 so I think they should see what worked in that game and base their next game off that , while eliminating the things people hate about the battlefields after it

devout socket
chilly jacinth
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With my eyes

white forge
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another suggestion would be to create a competitve battlefield mode, fps gamers are ranked addicts

vocal tusk
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they tried, players didnt want it

devout socket
vocal tusk
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IMO the last thing they should do is try to make BF a competitive eSports game

white forge
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I dont think ranked would be the issue, more players like ranked in an FPS game than not

white forge
vocal tusk
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People dont even play the ranked modes in COD

white forge
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Its the only mode I like in cod now

vocal tusk
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What would ranked even bring...adding SBMM?

white forge
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thats what ranked is

vocal tusk
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No thanks

white forge
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they dont need to put it in the non ranked mode...lmao

vocal tusk
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SO that will confirm that noone will play it in a BF game

white forge
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No because sbmm is only ranked

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which you can choose not to play

vocal tusk
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So no one wil play it

white forge
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No because thats what ranked is in every game

limpid pond
# vocal tusk What would ranked even bring...adding SBMM?

Ranked adds a competitive aspect that you can only obtain through ranked. What I mean by that is it cuts out alot of the cheese from multi-player and puts everyone on a level playground with same weapons and attachments so essentially you rely on skill instead of cheese

white forge
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climbing ranks

limpid pond
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Issue is in cod past diamond there's cheaters out the rear now

vocal tusk
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Like..."hmm...what will I play for fun...a mode where im placed with players on a similar level, where I need to sweat my ass off to win...or the casual mode where its players oif different skill levels"

limpid pond
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It's already hard enough being a mnk player in cod but when I hit crim almost every game I played had cheaters in it.

vocal tusk
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99% of players will chose the non ranked mode

white forge
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CSGO ?

chilly jacinth
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The casual modes are still popular even in cs

vocal tusk
chilly jacinth
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even though it's centered around comp

white forge
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it would give players the option

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Have something for every type of player

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if you want more players

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otherwise the shit will stay dead

chilly jacinth
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It's not dead though

vocal tusk
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BF doesnt need competitive modes or ranked to be a success

chilly jacinth
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capturing the competetive audience that is none existent shouldn't be the goal

vocal tusk
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It needs to not be a fucking mess at launch

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and not need to spend 2 years remaking the core and maps lol

white forge
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Just do everything battlefield 4 did and add ranked simple

pine roost
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I play games with the intent to improve as best I can, self critiquing and being competitive with myself, and even I don't want ranked

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I want to get better at battlefield, not at a 5v5 battlefield

white forge
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you need to give players a reason to stick around

white forge
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Ranked, skins, are some of the main reasons

brittle wind
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Ranked BF is essentially Finals

white forge
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players stick around, they spend money so they stick around since they paid for skins

limpid pond
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Ranked battlefield would be interesting because at that point it's not battlefield. You'd have to use a separate formula instead of big map bf

chilly jacinth
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If you've seen any comp gameplay from bf3 or 4

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you know that it ain't good

white forge
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Why would I play battlefield over GTA 6 ?

vocal tusk
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You dont need ranked to have players stick around. You need a game built around server persistence, meeting, friending and playing with other players consistently, and community/social and platoons systems integrated into the game.

brittle wind
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I don't like GTA so I will play BF instead

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RDR2 was a disappointment for me

vocal tusk
white forge
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if you dont play ranked obviously you wouldnt

limpid pond
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Yeah I feel Like bf ranked would have to be more along the lines of a search and destroy mode like csgo or how fortnite just did that ballistic mode. Or you would have to have a Frontlines comp mode only but on a smaller narrow map with longer respawn times so you can't spam it and certain weapons cheesed off.

brittle wind
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Ranked wouldn't even work with current BF maps

vocal tusk
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How do you define a ranking, wins or performance?

white forge
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They would design ranked a bit differently

chilly jacinth
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The small scale event modes in 2042 are essentially them experimenting with comp tbh

limpid pond
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They would need to add a new Statline feature that the computer can read and distribute points from a pool to the whole team

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That way if your on the enemy team and you're carrying super hard bit still lose you're not being punished to the point where you feel it's useless

vocal tusk
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BF core modes wouldnt even work in ranked as others said already. There are too many actions that help your team/squad, but might not actually win you the game, or gain you rank/score. BF by design is pretty open, chaotic and random. Trying to shoehorn a ranked mode in would be an uber waste of their time for the next game, and would almost make battlefield not feel like battlefield.

brittle wind
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Ranked BF would play like a worse version of Finals

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They should instead improve Portal imo

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I want 2142

chilly jacinth
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I honestly feel like they will abandon portal for the next game

vocal tusk
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Keep the bones of what portal is for this game...but abandon the "Different eras" part

pine roost
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the editor is super cool

chilly jacinth
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An amalgamation of all bf games would be a cool concept

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as just an entire game

pine roost
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but that language processing development tool they showed could be an addition to it, if it doesn't end up just being a purely internal tool

vocal tusk
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Yeah, keep that, and the easy to host/start a server part, but polish it. the different eras thing made little sense, when you consider that aportal stuff had to be ported over to even work inside 2042s era arsenal

brittle wind
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Mechs and titan mode would just take lots of time

vocal tusk
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It wouldnt work TBH. In the same way 1942 vs 2042 doesnt work

pine roost
#

i will completely break character and say something completely unique, titanfall battlefield when?

brittle wind
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BF2143

white forge
#

that would save it

brittle wind
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In 2030

white forge
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Giant robots and skyscrapers, with weather, and destructible battlfields enhanced by new tech

pine roost
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it's not something i'm seriously asking for but i'm just starved for titanfall stuff

brittle wind
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I actually want to see 2143

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With jetpacks

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They shouldn't copy titanfall's entire movement though

white forge
#

starwars

brittle wind
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Make it more grounded

brittle wind
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It would play like battlefront

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Without heros

white forge
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starwars battlefront was good but didnt have ranked so I went to csgo

vital quail
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Did you expect it to have a ranked mode lol

vocal tusk
pine roost
white forge
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at the time

vocal tusk
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Roblox squid game just wasnt for me, so I went with starcraft 2!!

white forge
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I was a kid when I played battlefield 4 and didnt care about ranked

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now I probably wouldnt play it

vital quail
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You know video games are supposed to be fun right

brittle wind
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Fun doesn't matter, emblem on the left of your playertag matters

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Best classic BF theme btw

pine roost
white forge
#

I still like non ranked stuff just not as much. Skyrim, Borderlands, Fallout

pine roost
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I've just sort of chosen to avoid team based comp games because the nature of random teammates just makes it unfun

white forge
#

I think battlefields problem is the gaming audience changed too much

naive ember
white forge
#

same with halo

pine roost
#

battlefield's problem is that the last game launched rubbish

white forge
#

eh

pine roost
white forge
#

Battlefield hasnt hit the same since 4

pine roost
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I don't like it cause relying on the competancy of teammates is just not a fun time

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would rather play a casual mode with a competitive mindset than an actual comp mode

white forge
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battlefield isnt bad just other games id play before it

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not my 1st choice

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I mean cod had bad launches too and its still thriving

brittle wind
pine roost
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tbf though fps games as a whole haven't been too hot either

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it's gotten to the point where i'm back playing overwatch

vocal tusk
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COD never released a game so bad all its release maps had to be remade

white forge
pine roost
#

kinda bummed infinite didn't do well, it was super fun

chilly jacinth
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Surely next game is good copium

vocal tusk
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Infinite wasnt even bad...it just got no content for so long

white forge
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also its an xbox exclusive and Playstation is a bit more popular

chilly jacinth
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It's on pc too

pine roost
#

had a tonne of fun with that one

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splitgate too, absolute blast

chilly jacinth
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Gameplay good, content bad and terrible hit detection

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and mid campaign

white forge
#

yes

brittle wind
#

Main mode is warzone

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Without warzone CoD would've declined too

white forge
#

maybe

brittle wind
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People buy CoD to level up their weapons for warzone

white forge
#

I dont like battle royales tbh

brittle wind
white forge
#

just couldn't keep up with the times

vocal tusk
#

Ive been enjoying DayZ community servers a lot recently

white forge
#

probably too difficult too, I dont like halo too much because it just feel weird

pine roost
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I’ve been enjoying suffering with two uni assignments due on the same day ohyes

brittle wind
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But wanting to make it faster would just make it not-Halo

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That's why Halo fans hates sprint

naive ember
#

Halo is dead

brittle wind
#

Yeah

naive ember
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Apex too eventually

brittle wind
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CoD might die too

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BO6 already lost half it's players since launch

chilly jacinth
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Console players still play that shit religiously

naive ember
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It's always fun camping the wz buy stations

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Hear them get angry

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1 guy even threatened me

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you may see decline in playerbase

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Call of duty 24 hour peak - 111,784

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it aint dying

brittle wind
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Activision was considering pulling the plug on wz back in wz 2.0 era

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Due to decrease in players

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According to anonymous sources

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BO6's drop is 2.5 times more than that

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I don't think CoD will die but it will become smaller than it is

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More people were playing WZ2.0 too. 300K concurrent players or something, not 100K among 4 games.

chilly jacinth
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You're talking to the biggest cod shill to ever walk this earth fyi

brittle wind
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Oh okay lol

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brittle wind
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Next year it might lol

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If BF BR rumors are true

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It would add to Zampella's KD ratio alongside Apex CursedCat

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brittle wind
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You can't make a P2P BR and expect it to be success in post Fortnite era

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Breakout was a failure too but Warzone was a success

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Extraction shooters can be P2P but only because Tarkov is P2P

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If someone else makes a good F2P Tarkov then extraction shooters also has to be F2P

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na you thinking that if battlefield will have a br it will kill cod

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as if it didnt have with firestorm

brittle wind
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If it's a F2P BR then there is a chance

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and firestorm failed

brittle wind
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If it's a P2P then there is no chance

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Firestorm was P2P

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Blackout was also P2P and it was also a failure

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we will see

abstract night
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Honestly if battlefield didn’t die with 2042 CoD certainly isn’t going anywhere as a much bigger and in many ways better or at least more renowned franchise

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BF really does not need a BR considering both attempts failed. I know they were paid but a F2P BR would also take time and resources away from the core gamemodes of BF. The last thing the franchise needs is to keep trying to copy the success of others at the cost of its own core design

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And bring back better voice acting

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That's an important factor

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It’s probably a generational thing I guess

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I grew up with the og cod and battlefield games where that was clearly a priority with good visuals and sound design/voice acting

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Newer kids are used to whatever Fortnite irreparably did to fps as a whole

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og Mw2 was before bo1

abstract night
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Treyarch over blops games, sledge was over waw, IW over og mw trilogy

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I’d respect sledge if they made interesting alt ww2 games or AW2 as opposed to whatever they did with mw23

mental delta
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To me there's definitely something to play with serious aspect as well

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A lot of people are figuring out COD is cringe and are seeking a more grounded game

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BF can be that to me

abstract night
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I will give bf this: it has always been more grounded. But the differences are narrowing with how 2042 went with “specialists”

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So I’m pretty concerned for the future

brittle wind
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They already confirmed BF6 won't have specialists

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But I fear it might have unicorn skins

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Community had to give huge backlash to leaked skins in order for them to not release stuff like santa boris lol

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brittle wind
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I'm fine with elite skins

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Ilse looks cool af

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2042's current state is pretty good imo in terms of skins

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Most outlandish one is cyborg Irish but even that fits

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Into the setting

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Depends on the campaign

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If campaign is good and people find likable characters

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They might sell them as skins later on

devout socket
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I swear that wrecking snipers again and again in a "sniper duel" has got to be one of the most satisfying things to do in this game

gentle kernel
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I have taken up the noble role of jump shotting.

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frozen loom
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Buff the concussion grenades by pairing it with a launcher.

inland bolt
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Can you guys fix the sprint bug before you fully stop paying any attention to this game?

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Sprinting constantly bugs out and my character is just walking and nothing will fix it until my character just randomly starts sprinting again 1-2 minutes later or I have to redeploy/die.

vital quail
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I'll get to work on it ASAP

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next onyx
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Don't be an ass.

ionic shuttle
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Battlefield 2042 2025

brittle wind
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Finally got Falck T1

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Started playing as Dozer for the rest of the match and he's extremely fun lol

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Swapping to a shield in front of the enemy 5 meters in front of me makes them run away

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What's a good AR for CQC besides AM40?

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Sfar is mediocre in CQC

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Good in mid-long ranges

rocky gust
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If anything, i always do a reinstallation to fix it, and 9/10 it works

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brittle wind
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Looked at Sorrow's spreadsheet and answer seems to be GEW or ACWR

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ACWR has the best TTK up to 20 meters

rocky gust
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GEW, well, if you hit all your shots theoretically it does do well

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But if you miss a few rounds, given its rpm, can be more punishing

brittle wind
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I will try a subsonic GEW build

rocky gust
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Everyone got their taste though so puck what you like

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I prefer the gew or m5

echo yew
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Frontlines is peak

frozen loom
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My only squadmate decided to try to snipe from the back of our spawn across the map the entire game.

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On Orbital.

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So, I brought out a MAV and parked it in his line of sight.

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The entire match.

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And deploying smokes.

kindred flint
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holy shit the svd is sooo fucking trash stock

brittle wind
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I dislike SVD and M39 due to insane visual recoil they have

kindred flint
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fucking piece of shit vehicles on a discarded 64p match

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just getting shot up by a ram camping the edge of the map, or an apache because our AA is camping too leo

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and the svd cant fight its say out of a wet paper bag compared to the svk right now

wispy rampart
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@viscid trout @gilded atlas @dire stirrup need a fourth? Thinking of hopping on

viscid trout
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im taking a break after this one but welcome to join us