battlefield-2042

[summer birch]

I remember when the bolte was op

[vocal tusk]

There are so many air counters also

[summer birch]

It almost feels like there’s too many now

[vocal tusk]

Lis just broke it all. It's insanely easy to get good with her TGM and one shot Nightbird.

It's fun, but it breaks more than it fixes, balance wise imo

[cosmic pond]

wait so if RAO uses his hacker thing on an enemy soldier, it spots him and nearby enemies?

for my team to see?

[vocal tusk]

It also works through smoke

[cosmic pond]

no i mean when i activate it. I was using it through smoke and I would lock onto an enemy and "hack" then like 6 enemies nearby would all be revealed in red. is that just for me? or also my team?

I have a clip of what im talking about

[low coral]

are the nearby enemies marked in the standard way like on the minimap or are they completely red

[vital quail]

It's just for you

[merry heart]

I think the easiest was SOFLAM + Rao + rocket, right?

Thing is, there's rarely people who use SOFLAM and Rao.

[rocky gust]

don't i fucking know it lmao

been stuck so close to hitting marshal for the longest time

[merry heart]

Only for you when the enemies are highlighted in red in the main screen. For the teammates, they're highlighted in the minimap if I recall.

[woeful rivet]

Yet another person who hates on SBMM because they can’t farm Noobs to push their KD

[rocky gust]

oh look, another person who loves sbmm because they're dogshit and hates to be farmed so they love staying in their little kiddy pool and let the game babysit them

[woeful rivet]

Nah

I got Damascus and Atomic on cod

[merry heart]

[woeful rivet]

And T1 for 2042

[merry heart]

Delta force more like sweat force

[rocky gust]

yeah nah it is sweaty rn, gun balance is terrible as fuck rn

[woeful rivet]

Digital combat simulator? More like Digital PTSD simulator

[rocky gust]

one assault rifle beats DMRs at their intended range

and it happens to be a chinese assault rifle

[woeful rivet]

Cope

[merry heart]

Communist party assault rifle

[rocky gust]

lmao you haven't played the game enough kelsey if you don't know

[woeful rivet]

Why would i play DF?

I got DCS and Arma

[rocky gust]

frfr

[low coral]

which one

[vocal tusk]

Rao hacking a vehicle already soflam it. So no need for the extra part.

[merry heart]

I ask because I watch this Nightbird player suggest this so 👀

[abstract night]

Sbmm is certainly necessary, eomm is not

You can send emote reactions all you want, it’s an industry standard for a reason

But I agree that, for example, purposefully rigging someone’s connection to the server to hurt their performance is ridiculous

[naive ember]

It doesn't matter bud

[abstract night]

There is a difference between the two that a lot of people don’t understand

[snow crag]

anyone lookin to chill with a casual?

[spare quest]

#lfg-pc

[glass cove]

hi

i like men

[brittle wind]

SBMM makes every game unplayable because every match is essentially ranked, without an actual rank to brag about. It's extremely tiring to play. I can play BF3 to 2042 just fine for 5 hours straight, I can't stand more than 4 matches of CoD due to SBMM despite CoD matches lasting 10 minutes and not 20-30 minutes.

[brittle wind]

It's an industry standard in losing 40% of players in a single month

[woeful rivet]

What cod did you start with

[brittle wind]

I barely played them besides some MW19, some MWIII and lots of BO6, I also played OG MW3 in LAN long ago, I played their singleplayer campaigns though

I started with 1 but I haven't played their MP until MW19

[obsidian lotus]

i prefer to not have to play every match like a championship match

[woeful rivet]

And what battlefield did you play first

[brittle wind]

1942(bots), then 2(bots), then 2142(bots and LAN), BC2(SP), BF3(MP and SP), 4(SP and MP although haven't played MP much, felt like a downgrade compared to 3 when I played it), never played Hardline, played some BF1(didn't liked it so I never bothered with it), lots of BFV and currently 2042

[uneven ibex]

Posted

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[abstract night]

How can this be true when MW3 2023 tested no sbmm and saw drastic player base decreases?

It’s not necessarily the SBMM doing that. There’s numbers to show sbmm has helped the player base increase. It’s EOMM that’s starting to irritate people

[naive ember]

SBMM is broken

[woeful rivet]

It‘s not

It puts you in Skill Based lobbies

[naive ember]

Not on WZ

[woeful rivet]

Casual players get to play Casual

Sweats get to play sweats

[woeful rivet]

Too damn bad?

[naive ember]

It was the same thing on MP

[woeful rivet]

Too damn bad, again.

[naive ember]

That's all you can say kid?

[woeful rivet]

No

Then again

You could just get better

Adapt and overcome after all

[naive ember]

What are you talking about?

[woeful rivet]

Get, Better. Adapt and overcome

[naive ember]

Just stating facts, you can even Google that sbmm is broken

[woeful rivet]

I‘m doin just fine

[naive ember]

Nobody asked bud

Also nobody is complaining

SBMM is broken that's pretty much it

[woeful rivet]

Lolz

[eager spire]

Here's a question for you: Say, hypothetically, you're an above average player. You generally score high in the matches you're placed in, you know how to play the game, and then SBMM/EOMM shows up, and is like, "hey, I notice you're above average, and I've got a match for you. It will be statistically even with you in it." And then you get in the match, and you are matched with 5 other teammates that are nowhere near as good as you, they don't know what's going on, and they're just generally not great. Meanwhile, on the other team, they are just average. They are nothing special at all, they are likely rocking whatever is the current meta. In this situation, you are effectively playing 1v6 against players who might not be as good as you, but are still very capable of beating you anyway, because there are 6 of them, and one of you. This is also not a Ranked lobby, this is a regular casual matchmaking lobby.

Would you find this fun or enjoyable in any single way?

@woeful rivet

[woeful rivet]

What?

[eager spire]

Sorry, forgot to ping you, but the above question is for you.

[woeful rivet]

And what am i supposed to do with that information?

Or question rather,

[eager spire]

well, answer the question.

[woeful rivet]

I would fight?

Fuck you expect me to do?

[eager spire]

The question is about if you would find this experience enjoyable.

[woeful rivet]

Call in a Damn Ghostrider and flatten the damn Map?

[eager spire]

I could not make this any clearer, please.

[woeful rivet]

Sure

It gives me a challenge to get better

[brittle wind]

It wasn't ''no SBMM'', it was ''lax SBMM'', big difference. In an ideal match with no SBMM there would be only 20% chance to see good players(80% of the players are 0.85 KD, I'm talking about people with above 0.85 KD). With ''lax SBMM'' you will get stomped harder as an average 0.85 KD player because instead of 1 KD guys you will have to compete with 1.2 KD people. In an average CoD game with no SBMM you would encounter 2 good players per lobby, good players could compete among themselves while average players can play among themselves. Also there would be only 1.6% chance to see a really good top 10% player in a match due to how small that group is compared to Average (40% of the players), bottom 20%(25% of the players) or bottom 10%(12.5% of the players). SBMM exists to protect bottom 20% and no one else. Because even average players are fed up with constant competitiveness.

[woeful rivet]

Adapt and overcome

[eager spire]

Okay, but you realize that the odds are heavily stacked against you here. May I remind you, you are playing effectively 1v6 because your 5 teammates are below average, and don't know what's going on, so they're not going to be of much help.

[brittle wind]

@woeful rivet https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/17zmjfs/max_hoberman_former_mponlineux_design_lead_for/

[woeful rivet]

Adapt and overcome.

[arctic grove]

i believe our ancestors used to tell warriors before battle against insurmountable odds, "Git gud, scrub"

[woeful rivet]

Swing or get swung

[eager spire]

let's be realistic here, because this wouldn't be an isolated incident. if you're an above average player in CoD, this is the experience they have most of the time, unless they are partied up with other players that are about as good or better than them.

[arctic grove]

Last night, I got placed against 3 "clans" (with at least 4 sweats) 3 games in a row. My team lost each time and I was the only one who went positive, but it was still fun

[brittle wind]

Tl;Dr: When Max Hoberman designed Halo's ranked play he wanted to have a variety of situations, even teams, your team stomping opponents, opponents stomping you, Hoberman specifically wanted to have this variety because he says evenly matched teams constantly playing among themselves would lead to most stressful situations, good for watching on a competition or twitch but not pleasant to play

He also says he specifically didn't wanted SBMM to effect casual play

Casual play was without SBMM, only ping factored in

[abstract night]

That just sounds like the same thing that happens in CoD to me really

[brittle wind]

Ex Bungie was also known for having constant LAN parties after a day of work, they were gamers themselves, they were making games they wanted to play themselves, that's why I would rather trust them in their decision making than a corporate data guy

[abstract night]

Some matches intentionally putting you against better or worst players. Seems rigged. Do you think you can reconcile that for me because I’m genuinely curious

[brittle wind]

It's exactly like CS GO's ranked honestly

The way he describes

This is ranked play he's talking about not casual play

In CS you sometimes get tougher opponents and sometimes weaker so when you beat tougher opponents you get a bigger boost to your rank

When you are beaten by weaker opponents you get a bigger penalty to your rank

[eager spire]

And that is the problem with SBMM/EOMM.

[brittle wind]

Yeah

Constantly playing in ranked mode with no rank to brag about

[woeful rivet]

Lalalala

[brittle wind]

There is a ranked play in CoD, casual mode shouldn't have SBMM, plain and simple

[eager spire]

It's easy to be like "oh well it's only a problem if you're bad, just adapt and overcome bro" but realistically, the people that this happens to are already good players. They are just heavily outnumbered because the game decided their stats need to be lowered a bit.

[brittle wind]

DF also had a ranked mode but they changed the name once people figured out casual and ranked lobbies are the same

They said it's ackshually points mode but I don't trust that

[eager spire]

it's not fun for the above average players because they're effectively having to carry a lobby by themselves, and likely having to do so multiple times till they decide to stop playing, it's not fun for the players on the above average player's team because they're not doing anything, they're just there to die, and it's not fun for the enemy team because they're really only playing against one guy.

[brittle wind]

They claim there are 2 brackets but it seems like there are 10 brackets

[abstract night]

I see
Thanks for the correction

[eager spire]

Not that I expect any of this to really mean anything to you, since you seem so deadset on this "adapt and overcome" angle. I'd really like to see you try to deal with this, honestly.

Like, just you try to deal with having to carry entire lobbies constantly.

[brittle wind]

SBMM doesn't make people better at the game either honestly

[eager spire]

no it doesn't

[brittle wind]

CoD youtubers are saying 1.5KD was the average while games had no SBMM, nowadays 1.5KD is top 12.5%

[eager spire]

it just annoys people that are already good and protects players that are not

[brittle wind]

2-3 KD meant you were good, 4 meant you were top 10%

Nowadays if you have 2KD you are cheating or two boxing lol

[woeful rivet]

Cope

Lmao

[abstract night]

So basically CoD eomm/sbmm is only really bringing in and keeping uber casuals

[brittle wind]

Yeah

I stopped playing after getting dark matter for like 2 weapons

It wasn't enjoyable once SBMM kicked in and decided I should suffer for playing good(I had 1.3 KD)

[abstract night]

I’m at 1.4 kd and can’t get into any matches that aren’t just constantly rubber banding

[brittle wind]

Yeah

Ping is also a huge issue with SBMM

[abstract night]

Decided to just delete mw23 at that point

[brittle wind]

It wants you to connect to other side of the planet

[eager spire]

that's it? you're just not gonna offer up any counter-arguments or anything, you're just gonna be like "cope lmao"?

[brittle wind]

Don't bother, she won't change her mind unless she suffers the SBMM hell herself lol

I used to think SBMM was good too because I like competitive play, I used to main CS GO and Siege before CS became unplayable with cheaters and Siege became boring, but playing CoD MPs changed my mind

CS and Siege are games designed with competitive play in mind from infrastructure to gameplay, CoD was always a casual game. When you try to make it competitive it breaks apart.

[eager spire]

You only make CoD competitive when it's organized.

And when it's Organized, it's not matchmaking anymore.

[brittle wind]

Yeah

[eager spire]

CoD can be competitive but it has to be heavily wrangled into that kind of thing.

[abstract night]

What sucks is nothing will really change when the class eomm is protecting are the ones spending all this money on those skins

[eager spire]

CoD4 had an entire modification on PC dedicated to that.

That is the reason Promod exists.

[brittle wind]

It can change if they start to lose them too

SBMM relies on huge number of players to work

[eager spire]

yeah but good luck convincing people to stop playing the video game

[brittle wind]

Matchmaking will be extremely long and when bottom 20% starts to fill out the gaps left by average and good players they will become the new top 20%

So variety in matchmaking will be even more noticable

Due to them spreading people thin among less variety of players

[abstract night]

Now I’m not sure where to stand cause sbmm has become an industry standard thing, so it must have its pros, and I can’t argue with the statistics showing playerbase and retention increases. This is why I usually point to EOMM being the problem which, as far as I’m aware, is really just CoD doing that

[eager spire]

I mean, the distinction is there but really, explaining it to the vast majority of people is a lot of wasted effort on shit they don't care about

[brittle wind]

Let's talk about this topic in 3 months when DF starts to lose players lol

[abstract night]

I’m not sure how DF sbmm works but to be fair it’s just going to die like defiant and what not cause people complain about CoD and battlefield being the way they are yet when someone else does something they ignore it

[brittle wind]

BF doesn't have SBMM though

[abstract night]

Or they blast those games for the same problems they make an excuse to acti/dice for

[brittle wind]

DF has SBMM and that's why I think it will die

[eager spire]

I mean, the reason xDefiant died was because it absolutely failed to provide a better alternative to CoD, instead being a mediocre hero shooter with a couple standout features.

[abstract night]

Fair enough cause I was bout to mention them as a game with no SBMM that died

[eager spire]

They expected to coast by on having input based matchmaking and no SBMM alone, but that alone does not make a popular game if the game isn't good.

and the game was not good

[brittle wind]

Or at least be relegated to extraction mode, I don't think people will keep up with SBMM in it

Funny thing is that extraction mode doesn't have SBMM

It matches players based on loot values

And not skill

They got it backwards lol

[odd garden]

Hello everyone

[brittle wind]

Hello

[merry heart]

guize how good is the AK-5C?

[brittle wind]

It's mid

[merry heart]

damn,

[brittle wind]

But some people say it's a stealth master

Like a stealthy version of SFAR

If you are good with flanks you can find success with it I guess

I don't think stealth plays an important role in 2042 honestly since you can be spotted by anything from TUGS to random Paik

Unless you are playing as Blasco because her passive makes you immune to spotting by gadgets

[spare quest]

AK5C gives you 100% stealth

[merry heart]

damn

was on a team with 3 boris players

and they all base camped with the sentry gun

[worldly jackal]

It's a new year.

[spare quest]

Where

[bitter mulch]

Happy New Year 😄

im ready for a new BF game

[naive ember]

[bitter mulch]

Sooo, are we getting some teasers in the next two months. What do you guys think?

[remote kiln]

no probably not

[brittle wind]

We will most likely see trailer in an Xbox or PS Showcase

[frozen loom]

The new gun?

[tawny lotus]

Let's play

[arctic grove]

HI I HAVE A QUESTION

is battlefield 2042 worth it

its 4 dollars now

[limpid pond]

Yes

[arctic grove]

ok

wanna be my battlefield buddy

it will be my first battlefield game

but last time i bought battlefield four or five i think

but the servers are so buggy i had to refund

[devout socket]

Any suggestions for some setups for someone who likes to play more long range/marksman style?

[noble tartan]

Should I main battlefield 2042 in 2025

[limpid pond]

I would say best bet would be Rao due to his ability to hack. Use soflam as your little upgrade. Any sniper really goes to be honest but a good one in general is the sws

[limpid pond]

It's all up to you man. Depends on your skill level and what you like to play. Fps games can get stale real quickly if you get destroyed every game. They can also get repetitive if they are no longer supported and 2042 isn't exactly a update proned game

[brittle wind]

Yeah

[noble tartan]

I mean I just wanna main a fps game for 2025

specially on my console

I bought bf4 and still havent tried it yet but bf2042 has more player counts

So I guess i just wanna feel some fps in my console

[limpid pond]

Well 2042 is good but I imagine battlefield 6 will drop this year so if you plan on staying battlefield then that's not a bad idea.what console are you on

Prom my personal experience xbox is the best console for 2042 due to the responsiveness of the joysticks but Playstation is workable with. If you have a slightly slow playerstayle ps would be fine. Just look up a video on some good settings because the controller has massive input delay on ps

[noble tartan]

I am on a ps4

[limpid pond]

Ohh yeah 2042 may not be the wave my friend

Probably better off sticking to cod due to major lag issues on old Gen. Graphics are scaled down really bad too

[devout socket]

And as a dmr build? I kind of like semi automatics in any game tbh, but I've heard that in this game you should just use an assault on semi instead of any of the default dmrs?

[limpid pond]

I mean the svk is honestly godlike. I can send a ss of the build I have

[limpid pond]

So the SVK is a great choice and the loadout would be

SVK Build
-Ghost hybrid 1.5-4x scope
-Stand issues/extended or Hightower mag
-LWG underal barrel grip
-Warhawk compensator muzzle

Sidearm - G57 because burst mode

Gadget - SoFlam so you can lock on vehicles for missile users and spot enemies

Throwable - smoke for quick cover and reposition or even cutting lines of sight by enemies looking at you

[noble tartan]

Really ? Cause I heard they fixed the bugs on old gens

[hollow lodge]

@limpid pond can i ask you? What exactly made you push the lady?

[limpid pond]

Definitely try It for yourself and be the ultimate judge. I'm going based off prior experience before I upgraded

[limpid pond]

She asked me to check her balance. I pushed her and her balance was bad because she fell

[noble tartan]

When exactly was you playing

[limpid pond]

I played on ps4 like almost 3 years ago lol

[hollow lodge]

hahaha thats funnny 😅😂

[limpid pond]

Went to xbox series x then swapped to ps5 then went to pc

[hollow lodge]

Rarely when I see a console player switch to pc

[limpid pond]

I have early signs of arthritis in my hands because I played claw on controller for so long. Was always a mnk player so I decided to buy a pc and play on mnk

[hollow lodge]

good for you 👍 i never played claw on controller when i used to play on console when i was young..but looks like it cause serious issue as u mentioned.. hope u dont feel any pain in your hands.

[limpid pond]

I have slight pains in my wrist when playing controller and the under palm of my hand. Some people never have issues with claw. I just got unlucky is all. But I've always been a mnk player. Back in middle school I use to play r6 on mnk on PC hit champion every season. I'm better on mnk but only switched to controller because of cod. Then I stopped playing cod and went to bf

[brittle wind]

Use G248, it's SVK but balanced

• 4.25-iron sight hybrid
• Arcom
• LWG or recoil laser because hipfire is viable
• Standard issue extended/standard issue/high power

[limpid pond]

G248 is pretty good too.

[hollow lodge]

i see, try to visit a doctor he will give you a prescription for your hand pain, like a cream or something.
I see i thought you mainly a controller player.

[limpid pond]

Any clips I have stock piled are old clips. Use to play controller then swapped back to mnk hence the 9 month break from battlefield. I stepped away and when I did play games I was playing stuff like helldivers 2

I play on a arbiter studio polar 65 magnetic keyboard and a glorious model o2 wireless gaming mouse

[balmy solar]

what is the best sniper with the attachments

[brittle wind]

SWS or railgun

SWS is good due to masterkey

Railgun is hitscan no bullet drop weapon

I also like XCE though, very fast

[balmy solar]

so what is the best?

[limpid pond]

I'd say sws. You can make it a 1 shot at close range through attachments. Allows you to put a underbarrel launcher on it. You can shoot it fast if you have the faster rate of fire mags too

[balmy solar]

so what is the best attacments for sws i don t play close range i play like 80-150 meters

[limpid pond]

When I get on later I'll be able to tell you. If you don't wanna wait there's so yt videos for the sws

[balmy solar]

im gonna wait you

[naive ember]

Wait what?

[tawny lotus]

Let's play

Squad up

[brittle wind]

• 6x/8x/12x scopes
• Bipod, LWG or ADS grip, masterkey
• Long barrel
• Hi power/standard issue

[dull path]

what was the first mag attachment you had on the PKP BP before unlocking others?

[brittle wind]

Hi power I think

[dull path]

oh okay

[hollow lodge]

i see.. good shit bro 💯😊

[frozen loom]

Battle of the Bulge just sounds wrong.

[hard jay]

Only if you make it weird

[frozen loom]

It was already weird before I called it out.

[frozen loom]

I was just in a squad filled with engineers.

I was taking down ground vehicles while the rest were capping objectives.

[naive ember]

Should've went with them

Squads gotta stick together

[frozen loom]

We ended up winning.

They advanced onto enemy objectives while I defended contested ones.

[naive ember]

Best squad?

[frozen loom]

Yes.

And, I was the MVP of the squad.

With 1400 damage inflicted on vehicles.

While each of my squadmates had 11 objective caps.

On Discarded.

[devout socket]

Thanks! I think I just got it (the svk I mean)

[devout socket]

I'll try that too, thanks

[devout socket]

Isn't casper's movement sensor and drone more useful?

or am I just not understanding Rao right...

[frozen loom]

Casper's smart suit is probably the handiest passive, imo.

[vocal tusk]

Its pretty annoying in CQC tho

[frozen loom]

For Casper or the opponents?

[vocal tusk]

Casper

A constant flashing red light at the bottom of your screen

[frozen loom]

It never bothered me. I just ignore it.

[vocal tusk]

It is probably one of the better active passives tho. If that makes sense 😄

[frozen loom]

I'd say the next best passive is Sundance's wingsuit.

No upkeep just like Casper.

Or setup.

Useful in any map with skyscrapers or open air for helicopters.

[arctic grove]

HI all, I am new to the community. Hope everyone had a great holiday

are there any squads to join?

[agile latch]

Looking for someone to play with

[devout socket]

I'm new, but I'd be down to play for half an hour now

[arctic grove]

yeah, I just started playing BF last week lol.

the squads I have been getting stuck with are usually every man for himself lol

[devout socket]

been playing only for about 2 days, but yeah that's been my experience as well

[arctic grove]

my PSN gamertag MaddMatt1810

[devout socket]

ok sent you a friend request

mine is a jumble of letters lol

lk81Ifpq6xnt or something liket hat

[arctic grove]

lol, okay

[devout socket]

Idk why it's like that tbh... probably because I'm using Nvidia Geforce Now

[torn mountain]

dawg my game is in slow mow

idk how to fix it since ive tried every possible way

[arctic grove]

not really sure, might look at EA sports account or something.

[devout socket]

sent you a party invite Matt

[arctic grove]

what platform are you using?

[arctic grove]

okay, gimme a second

[torn mountain]

u asking me or the other guy

[devout socket]

You I think

[arctic grove]

asking you

[torn mountain]

pc

help me fix this problem is possible pls ;-;

[arctic grove]

might have unistall and reinstall

[torn mountain]

oh hell nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

my wifi is trash that it took me 2 days to install it💀

screw this imma play bf1

[arctic grove]

well it might be your wifi then making it slow.

dang that was a rough one. that map is hard for me anyway

[devout socket]

gg @arctic grove @agile latch

I honestly like that map

very open

[arctic grove]

sorry, I tried to stay with you all

[devout socket]

Sorry for my performance lol...

at first I was all over the place with assault

[arctic grove]

obviously I am recon lol.

[devout socket]

I honestly like recon best as well

gotta get a better scope though

so what gamemode should we play next?

[arctic grove]

you are good, I sucked too lol

[devout socket]

This squad was better than the matchmaking ones for me at least, and that's what matters imo

[arctic grove]

doesn't matter to me

[arctic grove]

absolutely

some maps I do better on though. This one is just one of my foes lol.

[devout socket]

what are some of your favorites?

I haven't even played on this one lol

reclaimed or whatever its called

ok wow this map is hard...

[arctic grove]

go back to base

[devout socket]

uff

this was confusing

[arctic grove]

ikr dang

do you all speak english?

[devout socket]

yup

me at least

can't use a mic rn though

[agile latch]

yes

[devout socket]

we should probably use the ingame chat more

[arctic grove]

oh dang, okay. a party chat would be awesome

yeah for sure

[devout socket]

party chat as in?

not sure what you mean by party chat sorry

[arctic grove]

voice chat

[devout socket]

ah

yeah that'd be cool... maybe another time though

[arctic grove]

okay

[devout socket]

ohh shit

this map looks 100% cqc

do you wanna leave or should we play?

[arctic grove]

you can join my dicord too if you want. MaddMatt1810 gaming

which map is it?

[gaunt wind]

@arctic grove y’all playing 2042?

[arctic grove]

yes

[gaunt wind]

need a 3rd? i’m new to bf2024, but played hella anything prior to bf4

[arctic grove]

oh I hate this map, more so than the first

How do they keep flanking us? Dang

[frozen loom]

There's always someone sniping up on the cranes in Manifest.

Brought out my Lis rocket for them to see a slow impending doom rocket headed their way while they're hardscoped.

[devout socket]

Sorry I left at the start of the game guys: my power died for some reason...

[arctic grove]

It’s all good.

I’m going to need a little break after this one lol

I need to eat.

Sorry I have to leave this one. I gotta get some food.

[arctic grove]

Sorry we were in a game already. You can join me anytime, as anyone can if they want.

[arctic grove]

I can’t think of the names of all of them lol. But Stranded is one of them. I like the one with the skyscrapers as well.

[severe hill]

Spearhead

Bring back the cruise missiles event

[indigo storm]

BFV is like $5 in playstation store. Tempting to go back and see if it’s any better

[abstract night]

It was not my favorite game but your experience of course may differ from mine

[bitter mulch]

when did you last play it?

[indigo storm]

When it came out. I remember hating it compared to BF1 but Iwo Jima looked incredible

[frozen loom]

I outsniped 4 snipers after me.

Get rekt.

1v4.

Get dumpstered.

Lis rockets make them panic.

[arctic grove]

I think you sniped me earlier 😂 I can’t remember if today or yesterday but I remember the tag.

[frozen loom]

It just happened in Manifest Conquest.

Ever since I switched from the SWS-10 to the DXR-1, my sniping kills went up.

[arctic grove]

Yeah that’s a nice rifle. I run the XCE BAR

[frozen loom]

I was held back by the SWS-10.

Because it was the Mario of sniper rifles.

When I needed the Donkey Kong which is the DXR-1.

[naive ember]

It's free with ps plus I think

[arctic grove]

lol, I’m not a big fan of it either. DXR-1 or XCE-BAR so far the best ones in my opinion.

[frozen loom]

The bullet velocity of the XCE is too low, imo.

[abstract night]

It was but that was like 4 yrs ago

[merry heart]

man the GEW gun is suggestively offensive

[brittle wind]

Rao is the best long range sniper due to his passive, when you are shot you can go prone and see where the enemy is, then you can readjust your scope and shoot them instantly

[low coral]

i always get sniped by the rorsch

[vital quail]

I mean you can see it anyway with the giant fucking glint

[brittle wind]

Best passives are Zain's hp regen, Mackay's nimbleness and Blasco's stealth imo

[low coral]

Sundance's wingsuit is technically a passive

[frozen loom]

What does MacKay's nimbleness do?

[low coral]

faster on ziplines

[brittle wind]

Faster movement while ADSing

[frozen loom]

Sounds not as good.

[brittle wind]

Mackay will be harder to shoot than others

[merry heart]

all glints are equal, no matter the strength of the scope zoom, starting from 4x for sniper classes

[vital quail]

It's 6x

[frozen loom]

I usually don't shoot those on ziplines anyways.

[brittle wind]

Not ziplines

[low coral]

it is helpfull if your on controller because movement is already difficult

[brittle wind]

All ADS movement is faster with Mackay

[vital quail]

And yes I know, it's still a large glare that is easy to notice

[flint arrow]

Evening lads, just started playing a few days ago and have been playing breakthrough. I’ve noticed that when on the attacking team, there’s a UH-60 floating about and I’m wondering where/how it spawns? On the vehicle menu I’ve only got access to the light transports or a tank.
Have tried googling and scouring reddit but haven’t found an answer, either I’m not wording the question correctly or it’s that daft a question that no one else has felt the need to ask it. Cheers.

[frozen loom]

I'd rather take the wingsuit.

[brittle wind]

Sure

But it's highly situational compared to Mackay or Zain's abilities imo

[low coral]

you have to unlock it

[brittle wind]

Those 2 are always useful

[vital quail]

There's probably a challenge to unlock it in the vehicles section in the collection menu

[arctic grove]

Yeah I’m just getting used to the game and everything. I’m love it so far. Way better than COD and less hacks.

[low coral]

yea

I've been noticing more cheaters recently idk why

[arctic grove]

God I hope they don’t start 🙄.

[low coral]

its not that bad lol

[arctic grove]

Maybe not on Battlefield, I hate them on COD

[flint arrow]

Ahh okay perfect cheers. Still fumbling my way through the progression system. Seems to have had a massive overhaul when compared to BF5

[low coral]

yeah the progression was pretty lame in bf5

[woeful rivet]

Unpopular opinion but i enjoyed 2042 without classes more than i do now

[flint arrow]

I actually really enjoyed BF5 but I am a sucker for WW2

It is definitely a culture shock jumping into 2042 3 years after release date though

I played the 2042 beta and hated it but I’m enjoying the game so far

[woeful rivet]

May i ask why you hated the Beta

[flint arrow]

Can’t even remember hahaha

I just know I didn’t enjoy it enough to put me off the game entirely

[brittle wind]

Clone wars and performance imo lol

[indigo storm]

I prayed for a WW2 game the same way they did BF1. A Normandy grand operation would have been incredible. But EA /Dice

[flint arrow]

I think it was dead buggy

[woeful rivet]

I mean it was a Beta to be fair

[merry heart]

i think i can explain a bit:

• boris can deploy 2 sentry guns, and those sentry guns hit like a truck
• hovercraft can climb walls
• maps were extremely large and had very little cover

ive played beta so i can recall some

[woeful rivet]

Sentry guns do look like 20 mils

So would explain why they hit like that

[merry heart]

before the sentry gun nerf, they hit way harder lol

[woeful rivet]

Hovercraft was a funny bug with literally 0 affect on the game play

[flint arrow]

Yeah I couldn’t believe they skipped a Normandy beach landing but then gave us Pacific ones?

[woeful rivet]

And the Maps were big to i guess encourage Combined arms warfare

[merry heart]

nah, even then the extreme size mad it miseraible to play in

[woeful rivet]

What map are we talking about

[merry heart]

all of the launc maps

[woeful rivet]

They.. weren’t that big lmao

They all had plenty of cover

[merry heart]

ive played beta. they had very little cover.

[woeful rivet]

That‘s why its a Beta

To receive feedback

And change some maps

[merry heart]

that doesn't change the fact that the beta was terrible tho

[woeful rivet]

It‘s a Beta…

[arctic grove]

@frozen loom can I add you on the game? I sent a friend request on here too.

[woeful rivet]

Also

The Hovercraft glitch was such a Nonissue they had it in the game for 3 season after Release iirc

It was funny

[indigo storm]

Especially on the 75th anniversary

[woeful rivet]

It wasn’t game breaking

[flint arrow]

I’d played the beta’s for all the battlefields I can remember and I the only games I’ve skipped were hardline and 2042 (until now)

Hardline beta wasn’t even that bad just wasn’t my vibe

[woeful rivet]

I hope you do realize what the Normandy Beach was like on Omaha

[flint arrow]

But I distinctly remember just not enjoying the 2042 beta

[flint arrow]

What do you mean sorry

[woeful rivet]

The Defenses

[brittle wind]

Falck used to look like a grandma during beta but they changed her design to be younger, she looks 40-50 now instead of 65 lol

[woeful rivet]

On Omaha Beach

6th june 1944

[abstract night]

Dice intentionally avoided stuff like Normandy to show ‘unknown battles’

Big blunder

[woeful rivet]

Do you know the scale of those Defenses?

[woeful rivet]

A good decision imo

[flint arrow]

I’m not sure what the point you’re trying to make is?

[abstract night]

I need my Normandy and battle of the bulge

[woeful rivet]

You‘d be landing on Omaha in Higgins boats

While being fired at by 105mm guns

And MG-42‘s

With no cover…

Oh and let‘s not forget the Paks and Anti air weaponry too

[flint arrow]

I’m sure they’d be able to take some artistic liberties given it’s a video game

[woeful rivet]

And Sector artillery

[abstract night]

There were some aerial and naval bombardments before the landings

[woeful rivet]

Not if you wanna make it realistic

[woeful rivet]

Yes

[flint arrow]

It’s battlefield we’re talking about

[woeful rivet]

But how would you Implement The USS Texas

Firing onto Omaha

Or where ever it was at

[abstract night]

Same way they did dreadnoughts in BF1

[woeful rivet]

So you‘d give a Battleship with 6 300mm guns

To one side

[abstract night]

Yes

[woeful rivet]

💀

[abstract night]

Nah it should probably work like the cruise missiles from bf4 cause yeah that’d be broken lol

[woeful rivet]

Did you ever use the Mountain gun on Monte grappa?

In BF1?

[abstract night]

Yes

[woeful rivet]

Multiply that by 4

And put it on eye level with the enemy

Meaning it can reach all objects

[frozen loom]

I play solo 99% of the time.

[woeful rivet]

And add like 20 100mm canons

[merry heart]

same

[woeful rivet]

And 10 Anti air

[abstract night]

Same

Video games are where I escape people at

[woeful rivet]

Same

[abstract night]

Unless I’m shooting them in game

[merry heart]

GEW or AK-5C guize

[woeful rivet]

Ak5

[merry heart]

hum

[woeful rivet]

Mo

[merry heart]

ok ill try both

[woeful rivet]

Or…

M240 Bravo from the Portale section

[abstract night]

Kelsey

M240 or M249?

Just based on looks alone

[woeful rivet]

240

249 kinda fat

Too squished
Together

[abstract night]

Yeah I always felt the same way the m249 looks like the m240s buff brother lol

[woeful rivet]

Besides

240 has a sleeker look

[abstract night]

Sleek guns are best guns

[woeful rivet]

Although..

The M60 exists

Best of both worlds

[abstract night]

Agreed

Too bad the m60 has largely been phased out except for some units in the marines

[woeful rivet]

E4 or 5

Iirc

Is the latest variant

[abstract night]

Yes I believe it’s the e4 as well

[woeful rivet]

Fitted with Picatini rails

[abstract night]

I loved the m60 in bf4

[woeful rivet]

Loved the M60 in Portal

It‘s so slick

so powerful

[frozen loom]

[woeful rivet]

Sometimes you don’t even realize you carry a MG

[woeful rivet]

M60E6

[merry heart]

idk if its just me but the TTK on the GEW seems faster than the AK-5C

[devout socket]

Kaleidoscope?

Yeah that's decent

[brittle wind]

GEW

[brittle wind]

GEW is high risk high reward

Fast TTK with low mag size

What should I use for muzzle and underbarrel on K30?

[arctic grove]

Yes, that’s it. I like most all the big wide open maps.

[arctic grove]

Understood. Well, may your bullets fly true and you remain strong.

[frozen loom]

As to you.

You should get into Friday Night Battlefield.

It's in 2 days.

Discord people arrange matches.

[merry heart]

AK-5C is nice and stable but idk if it's just me but it falls short somewhere

[frozen loom]

It's too sporadiac for me.

And the magazine is too short.

[merry heart]

wym sporadic

[frozen loom]

As in recoil.

[merry heart]

idk i find it to be very stable in terms of recoil

[frozen loom]

I'm a AC-42 enjoyer.

Most accurate AR in the game.

[merry heart]

yes

[frozen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-gif-9581117406674041116

[grand cove]

did they remove the battle pass

_

?

[kindred flint]

joined a frontline xl match on arica harbor ...team cant even push the 2nd objective after they were pushed back all the way to the spawn zone when i got in

im hiding on the freaking bridge beam farming kills with the p90 trying to clear space for them to push and 3/4 of the team is camping in the back, i really do wonder what goes through these NPCs minds

[dusty elm]

you get to play frontline xl with the Arica harbour map. I keep getting the same flashpoint map on repeat. I couldn't bare playing any longer than 2 games

[indigo storm]

Ok the campaign for Bf5 is dope

[arctic grove]

Cool, I’ll check it out.

[quiet phoenix]

do yall think 42 population dies out for good after the new one? thinking of picking it up on the steam sale but I'm still like, what will the game even feel like? A hot mess that got put together years after ppl paid for it and no teamplay? Is it even worth picking up n prob not playing with friends?

[vital quail]

As with each other previous games, people will stay and play it

It's $5, not that big of a decision

[quiet phoenix]

keep saying its just 5 long enough it adds up, alm forgot, fk EA

[abstract night]

Doubt it’ll have a lot of players if the next game is decent ngl

2042 is only dragging along cause people say “there’s nothing else to play” and it’s like 5 dollars, but it’s not really memorable for much

[abstract night]

“It’s just 5 dollars” even then, why not put 5 dollars towards a coffee or even just a better video game to begin with? If the only reason to buy a video game is cause it’s 5 dollars, but not because it’s actually interesting or good, it’s still a waste of money

[brittle wind]

2042 is the least bad modern arcade military shooter on the market 🤷

[abstract night]

I’d rather play an older battlefield game tbh

[brittle wind]

BF4 is practically dead

I haven't played it in recent times but people say it's unplayable due to admins

[abstract night]

The way I see it is it’s about standards. I simply refuse to play a newer game if it’s not better than its own predecessors. Either that or I’ll play new games entirely. “It’s just 5 dollars” is not a very good or convincing argument

[merry heart]

LEB admins?

[woeful rivet]

There‘s 2 servers online

At least i saw 2

One had 39 players

The other 15

Both were… decent

[brittle wind]

2042 isn't better than BF1 or V but those games are WW games

For people who wants a modern shooter 2042 is the best on the market right now

[abstract night]

I know I’m a big proponent of theme but even I have to use a dissenting argument to my own beliefs here: I would not care if it’s a WW theme game if it’s a better game

[brittle wind]

Many people just don't want to play WW games lol

[abstract night]

I think that’s part of the problem as much as I generally understand and agree. People buying and supporting bad products cause of something like that alone makes me concerned about if DICE will ever learn anything going forward

[low coral]

2042 is not a bad product dude

not anymore at least

[abstract night]

I do not agree for a mix of objective and subjective reasons

[woeful rivet]

One of the saddest things that happened with 2042 was the reintroduction of Classes and removal of Movement from BF5

[low coral]

bf5 movement was peak

[brittle wind]

2042 never had BF5 movement I think

[abstract night]

It never had any bf5 movement, which is funny cause that’s actually a big reason why I think the game isn’t good. They completely regressed on the movement V created

[woeful rivet]

That‘s what i said..?

[abstract night]

Why not continue what was good from previous games

[brittle wind]

Cringe

[woeful rivet]

That‘s what i fucking said

[abstract night]

Oh dammit my bad

[brittle wind]

Classes are the core of BF games

[abstract night]

I thought by removed you meant it was in the game then got taken out

[woeful rivet]

No

[woeful rivet]

Maybe

But it was refreshing being able to do whatever you wanted

[abstract night]

I never mentioned the Chinese,

[woeful rivet]

I don’t wanna say the words out loud…but…

[brittle wind]

BF shouldn't be a hero shooter, current state of the 2042 is good imo in terms of balance, in fact one of the best aspects compared to V or 1

If you want to see hero shooter BF just look at Delta Force

[abstract night]

Balance is pretty wack, it took a while for planes to be useless against anything but planes and tanks and other armored vehicles aren’t even that capable cause Sundance

Armor controls are really clunky meanwhile a squirrel can cross the map in 10 seconds and c4 you while you’re still trying to figure out why you press reverse and the tank starts turning sideways

[brittle wind]

In BFV it takes 20 rockets to destroy a single tank

You can solo tanks in 2042

As an infantry

BFVs tanks are slower though

[woeful rivet]

Wich is realistic

[brittle wind]

So I'll give it that

[low coral]

no it is not dude

[woeful rivet]

Sherman is as fast as a Jeep

[vocal tusk]

Not sure what is clunky about moving forward, back and rotating, then aiming a turret lol

[quiet phoenix]

this is another reason I never bought it way back, almost every vehicle looks like a peashooter

[brittle wind]

Realism =/= fun

[woeful rivet]

Don‘t dude me

[woeful rivet]

It‘s fun because you‘re a glass canon

[low coral]

its a general expression bro

[abstract night]

I don’t really think good balance is being able to solo a tank because of the average match having 2x the amount of enemies

[woeful rivet]

Idgas

Don‘t dude or bro or anything me

[low coral]

lmfao

[quiet phoenix]

sorry bro

[brittle wind]

Calm down girl

[low coral]

mb dude

[vocal tusk]

A single soldier should not be able to 1 shot a tank tho, speaking mainly of C5 which can be used and detonated within 4 seconds.

[abstract night]

It’s hard to explain. But it’s in the way tracked vehicles control compared to wheeled

[woeful rivet]

As in BF4

[brittle wind]

It's hard to C5 tanks due to third person view though

[woeful rivet]

And BF3

[brittle wind]

Tanks are also fast in 2042

So it's harder to oneshot them

[low coral]

it is set in the future

[vocal tusk]

Yes, I also wished it wasnt the case there. But soldier movement speed was not all that fast compared to vehicle sin those games.

[woeful rivet]

You could always take on a Tank solo in any game except BFV

[abstract night]

Tanks pretty much always snipe in 2042 because of how wack the balance against them is

[low coral]

yeah and thats what bfv did good among a few other things

[woeful rivet]

Wich is what tanks are supposed to do

[abstract night]

They are supposed to support infantry

[low coral]

what

[woeful rivet]

Tanks are Supposed to be Vulnerable without Infantry

[abstract night]

SPGs are technically the snipers

[brittle wind]

Sniping tanks are a bigger issue in V compared to 2042 though

[abstract night]

but those aren’t in 2042 so eh

[vocal tusk]

2042 is also mainly worse, because of how good C5 is, and how many specialists have it (All but 3)

[low coral]

infantry is supposed to be vulnerable without tanks

i think u got it mixed up

[abstract night]

True it’s really bad there as well cause tanks aren’t punished for sitting next to supply stations

[woeful rivet]

How old are you?

[low coral]

why does that matter

[woeful rivet]

Because i wanna know

[abstract night]

In 1 and 4 they could be much more aggressive

[vocal tusk]

And tank 2nd seat guns are weak, turret splash damage to infantry is low.

[woeful rivet]

Ah yes, The APS system blocking all damage for 10 seconds

So 2 tanks stare at eachother

[vocal tusk]

It was better

[abstract night]

I also think it was better that way tbh

[brittle wind]

BF3 had the best tank play

[quiet phoenix]

vehicles dont do enough dmg to players from what ive seen, do yall feel like the t2k is fine or arbetrary?

[brittle wind]

Bring back reactive armor

[vocal tusk]

Tank combat was about positioning and where you hit. APS gave you time to manoever

[abstract night]

I played tanks a lot in bf4 on golmud railway so I got used to the nuance of em

[woeful rivet]

Maneuver

[flint arrow]

Manoeuvre

[abstract night]

Br*tish

[low coral]

nobody cares

[quiet phoenix]

manmoveover

[low coral]

monaever

[flint arrow]

It’s French I’d of guessed

[abstract night]

Ah

Fr**ch

[woeful rivet]

A main battle tank (MBT), also known as a battle tank or universal tank or simply tank,[1] is a tank that fills the role of armour-protected direct fire and maneuver in many modern armies. Cold War-era development of more powerful engines, better suspension systems and lighter composite armour allowed for the design of a tank that had the firepower of a super-heavy tank, the armour protection of a heavy tank, and the mobility of a light tank, in a package with the weight of a medium tank. The first designated MBT was the British Chieftain tank, which during its development in the 1950s was re-designed as an MBT.[a] Throughout the 1960s and 1970s, the MBT replaced almost all other types of tanks, leaving only some specialist roles to be filled by lighter designs or other types of armoured fighting vehicles.

[abstract night]

Dayum

[woeful rivet]

The role of a Tank Post 1945

[vocal tusk]

They reduced MBT cannon splash damage at the same time as other explosive cannons, when really they shouldnt have. Those HE cannons now feel terrible against infantry. Unless you direct hit, or it within 2m of infantry, its not a kill.

"The role of tanks" bro go away, this is a casual video game

[abstract night]

2042 certainly favored infantry

[quiet phoenix]

not reading all that, tanks support infantry by taking out buildings and other armored targets/vehicles and are supported by infantry, because anyone with a nice rocket can disable a tank

[woeful rivet]

And Infantry supports tanks by not letting AT squads get close

It‘s a Ying and Yang

[vocal tusk]

By what, standing beside it and dying lol

[low coral]

it is not that deep

[vocal tusk]

Bro thinks this is real life where team work works

[brittle wind]

Best part of modern BF games honestly

[low coral]

A tank is an armoured fighting vehicle intended as a primary offensive weapon in front-line ground combat. Tank designs are a balance of heavy firepower, strong armour, and battlefield mobility provided by tracks and a powerful engine; their main armament is often mounted within a turret. They are a mainstay of modern 20th and 21st century ground forces and a key part of combined arms combat.

from wikipedia

[woeful rivet]

Mfw ppl complain about Tanks being vulnerable them say „go away bro this is a casual game“

[quiet phoenix]

was it? swear 1 was the best for infantry imo

[low coral]

and offensive vehicle

not for sniping

[vital quail]

Yap session fr

[vocal tusk]

Let me get out my shoulder mounted TV missile and shoot you from behind cover from 475m away IRL

[low coral]

fr

[brittle wind]

V's launch maps and 2042's seasonal maps are great for infantry play

[woeful rivet]

Offensive includes Long range, close quarters, air offensive, and Indirect fire

[low coral]

😐

[brittle wind]

BF1 doesn't have it's own meat grinder map too

[woeful rivet]

MBT‘s are used for 3 of those roles

[low coral]

I do not care

[low coral]

meat grinders are stupid

id rather go play cod

[vocal tusk]

How else does one make mince?

[quiet phoenix]

anyone else downloading sum on steam? are servers just taking a sht rn? I went form 60mbs a few mins ago to not even 1....

[brittle wind]

Operation Metro 7/24 > Any COD

[quiet phoenix]

and its only steam that cant download anything... I can get 50 if I try n download sum else

[low coral]

operation metro in bf5 was terrible

[woeful rivet]

There is no such thing as a Shoulder mounted TV missile

Only IR guided

Wich is The Javelin

With a max range of 1 km

[low coral]

we arent even talking abt that anymore

[vocal tusk]

Sir, you are in the chat for a video game

[woeful rivet]

Ma‘am*

[low coral]

💀

[quiet phoenix]

AHHHH A FEMALE

[vocal tusk]

thats not the meme, so its off template

[low coral]

misclick lol

[vocal tusk]

"ma'am, this is a dennys" doesnt quite work

[quiet phoenix]

cya I dont converse w those when its dark...

[woeful rivet]

It kinda does

You just did it didn’t you

[low coral]

I think you can let go of your pronouns rn woman

[vocal tusk]

Regardless, realworld tactics go out the window in a casual, infinite respawn based video game.

[woeful rivet]

If you can let go of your Edginess

[woeful rivet]

Then don‘t complain about Glass canons

[low coral]

how was that edgy

[woeful rivet]

Or rather MBT‘s

[vocal tusk]

I didnt?

[low coral]

lmfao

[vocal tusk]

I said tanks in 2042 are shit, cos they are

[woeful rivet]

They are realistic

[merry heart]

huh, the GEW really is fun. unfortunate name of the gun tho.

[vocal tusk]

They are shit

[woeful rivet]

Realistic

[vocal tusk]

Cant do any damage, except to other tanks

[low coral]

nope

[woeful rivet]

You are firing metal darts

[merry heart]

why use a tank when helis just decimate them

[low coral]

not realistic in the slightest

[merry heart]

[woeful rivet]

Not HE

[woeful rivet]

Then use HE

[brittle wind]

It was great, fun fact, I didn't knew BFV had a metro remake so when I was playing casually I soifaced when I saw operation underground for the first time on loading screen

[low coral]

iwo jima is the best map

[flint arrow]

Operation Locker 🔛🔝

[low coral]

or aerodrome or wtvr

[brittle wind]

Iwo Jima is terrible for infantry play

[low coral]

thats not in bfv

[woeful rivet]

Depends

[low coral]

not really

[woeful rivet]

How you play Infantry

[low coral]

you just gotta do it right

[brittle wind]

It's terrible for conquest

And breakthrough

[flint arrow]

I was talking about meat grinders

[low coral]

iwo jima isnt a meat grinder in the slightest lol

[brittle wind]

First 2 sectors of Iwo Jima is terrible

Then it becomes decent

[flint arrow]

Panzer Storm I think it was called was probs my favourite BFV map

[brittle wind]

Great for spectacle not so much for gameplay

[low coral]

which one was that

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Well it's great for tank players

Terrible for infantry again lol

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Y‘all are sleeping on Broken steel and Solomon islands

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I just know on breakthrough there was about 30 tanks that spawned

[low coral]

oh that one

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7

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panzer storm was terrible

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Broken Steel is good, Solomon Islands is decent too

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For each side

[low coral]

cant go anywhere

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With 4 planes

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God forbid we use a bit of hyperbole

[low coral]

wake island is my favorite recurring map

idk why they didnt put it in 2042

stupid

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Someones angy

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They wasted BF theme on Haven

Haven is mid

[low coral]

haven is terrible

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Haven?

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2042 map

its stupid

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Haven is only playable as Mackay

[low coral]

or as a sniper but I'm not gonna do that

boring af

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The Mexican city?

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Best map for Mackay grind though

Yeah

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With only 1 Little bird

[low coral]

yeah something like that

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Yeah that shit is ass

Literally Fallujah

[low coral]

nah I'd say thats the one with the docks

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Running around with MGs and seeing Gun fire that rips across the town square

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i dont remeber what its called

[brittle wind]

Manifest is good too

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The Korea one?

[low coral]

yeah manifest

if you stay around the ship and container area

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I usually grind Lis on manifest

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I really like Manifest, I just wish the hill top objective wasnt so boring to get to.

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I do would want Fallujah As a map in 2042

Would be quite interesting

[merry heart]

it's like G objective in Sinai

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Or Kuwait City

[brittle wind]

Concept art for one of the maps on BF6 resembles that

[low coral]

might happen in the new bf

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, just this thing off on its own haha

[vital quail]

I can't remember the last time I bothered to even go to the hill on manifest

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Most likely like BF3

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Yeah

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1 sector is not worth all that time

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fr I just sit around the ships and kill the snipers that go on the cranes

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First picture i saw was some soldier in MARPAT 2 and a BDU IBA

With a seeming Blackhawk

[low coral]

im lwk excited for bf6 hope they dont screw it up

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But it could have been DCU and a Black IBU

Wich would then make it be the Blackhawk down Scenario

[brittle wind]

Entire fate of casual multiplayer shooters depends on BF6 💀

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Other than that most likely the first battle of Fallujah

[vital quail]

I'm sure everyone will have something they will cry about when the next game is revealed

[vocal tusk]

I have more confidence in the next BF game than I had in 4, V or 2042. But they still have a lot to prove.

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So 2004

[low coral]

yeah

[brittle wind]

They said it's going to be set in a modern setting

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i want them to add a milsim mode with different gunplay and stuff

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In a fictional war

I don't think it will take place in 2004

[vocal tusk]

Modern setting, 64 player, dense urban maps, class system, no specialists. thats all we actually know

[low coral]

yeah one of the possible names is bf2025

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Modern…

Modern is always so Vague

[low coral]

128 isnt that bad

they should just wait

[brittle wind]

We are closer to 2042 than to 2004

[vocal tusk]

It is for making maps in less than 6 months

[low coral]

too much for a game that just launched

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Modern is everything from 2000 to 2280

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https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4422967

[vocal tusk]

2280 is future haha

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Fallujah 2004

Basically

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bro they litterally said 2025

[vocal tusk]

Id imagine it will be present day, or near future. Like 2035

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"Bro“

In the big 2025

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I think it's going to be set in 2027 or 2030

[low coral]

no way your dicussing slang on discord

[brittle wind]

2030 would be funny though

[vital quail]

Does the year make a difference really

[vocal tusk]

Nato vs PMC gives them a lot of room to add a lot of different countries arsenals

[vital quail]

If it's still modern

[brittle wind]

BO7 is supposed to take place in same year

[low coral]

no

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Nato?

Seriously?

[topaz vine]

honestly present times could get political in the wrong direction

[low coral]

thats what they said

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I will NOT

Buy the new bf them

[low coral]

lol why

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Because there’s no way in fucking hell i‘m not gonna Play as a female Marine

[vocal tusk]

So play as a male

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[low coral]

thats why theyre doing the PMC thing

[brittle wind]

I would want to see the return of country flags for player cards

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No chance in hell

Brah

[vocal tusk]

Or female, whatever you want

[brittle wind]

BF4 had them I think

Or even add them for uniforms

[vocal tusk]

Hopefully they just have classes, and then skined models like BFV did

[low coral]

NO

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Hear me our

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Yeah

[low coral]

skins were the end of battlefield

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Have classes

And have two female and two male Models

One black

[vocal tusk]

they are going to have different skinned models for classes, cos its the best way for them to be able to sell skins

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One white

And have different Clothing objects fitting for each class

[low coral]

unfortunately

[brittle wind]

It's going to be a live service again

Skins are here to stay

I would rather want V's system though

[low coral]

ik

[vocal tusk]

Live service isnt the issue, SHITTY live service is.

[brittle wind]

With mixing and matching different parts

Yeah

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I just want a White female with Brown hair as my Character model with pink lips

In MARPAT

Of course

[low coral]

bfv still had theme-fitting outfits so that wouldnt be too bad

but some of them were just stupid ngl

[brittle wind]

I want to see my country represented in NATO

[flint arrow]

I quite liked the skins in BFV

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USNATO or NATO?

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NATO

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Fr

[low coral]

my germany skin is sick

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I want USNATO

[vocal tusk]

The US is part of nato tho

[low coral]

they cant make a game without the US

[brittle wind]

Yeah

[low coral]

just for marketing

[brittle wind]

US is also in NATO lol

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Technically

NATO

Is just Europe

[vocal tusk]

Not technically, they are part of NATO

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USNATO is US and europe

[vocal tusk]

No, it isnt

[brittle wind]

NATO wouldn't exist without US

Literally founders

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So USNATO

[low coral]

https://www.nato.int/cps/su/natohq/topics_52044.htm

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United States North Atlantic Treaty Organisation?

[low coral]

us is part of nato

USNATO is like the same as saying UKNATO

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United States Mission North Atlantic Treaty Organization

[brittle wind]

Girl knows the names of fighter jets and WW2 tanks yet doesn't know US founded NATO 💀

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I kinda feel like you’ve just made that up

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I did

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Look it up cuh

[vocal tusk]

Its their mission name, they are just being annoying about it tho

"Lets make it about the US"

lol

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Man

Just being Factual

[vocal tusk]

Just put US at the start and call it about us

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So if NATO is just Europe and USNATO is United States + Europe, which one does Canada belong to?

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idk

[low coral]

lol

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Idc about Canada

[low coral]

its nato bruh

[vocal tusk]

USNATO isnt the united states + Nato, USNATO is the USAs name for their mission to NATO

[low coral]

did you not see the list

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I care about the Star Pangled Banner

[low coral]

star pandled banned

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Pangle

[low coral]

you missed one s

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The Star-Spangled Banner

Damn

Inreally did

Anyway

They should add the F-15C MSIP II

The F-15C‘s 2000‘s Upgrade

To AESA radars and 120C

As well as HMD‘s

And IFF

As well as the TUSK kit for the A5

[low coral]

if they do nato they would be able to do regional conflicts like they did with pacific war in bfv

which means more maps

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I want to have an Abrams and MARPAT all the time tho?

I dont want flecktarn

Or MC

[low coral]

lol too bad