battlefield-2042

[spare quest]

having 1 recon with soflam is also nice

[frozen loom]

That's me.

I get pretty petty if an enemy vehicle or infantry kills me in a cheese way.

I get back at them by SOFLAMing them all match or droning them all match.

[spare quest]

pilot mains love getting soflam´ed the entire round

[frozen loom]

Most pilots will run away and half of them will release flares.

[spiral stratus]

Yeah, sometimes we go all in on vehicles. Soflam, soflam and some more soflam

[frozen loom]

They need to fix the SOFLAM so everyone regardless of what they are holding at the moment can see it.

The lock-on I mean.

It'd make people want to redeploy immediately into an engineer role if necessary.

[spare quest]

that would improve teamwork, the devs dont want that in 2042

the tracer dart gun nerf was already crazy

[frozen loom]

I never use the dart gun.

[spiral stratus]

Would be nice if we could get back the deep ammo pockets the engineers had

Sad that they keep nerfing and changing stuff most of the community never asked for

[spare quest]

casper drone emp

[spiral stratus]

That was actually helpful. Now he is nerfed down to be a paparazzi

[spare quest]

the casper drone nerf was good for roof and vehicle campers

[spiral stratus]

Same with angels armour plates and Sundance emp and anti vehicle grenade

[frozen loom]

I saw some enemy campers on top of the Hourglass roofs who kept killing me, so I droned them for 10 minutes.

My teammates killed them all.

Exterminated their entire squad.

Having a casper on your squad is so useful. The ones that help the team. Not the ones who just pick them to use the proximity suit.

I rarely encounter them, so I usually play as one.

The good ones I mean.

[vital quail]

No comment

[frozen loom]

I was on that ship map and got irritated at how campy the top of ship was getting, so I droned up top from the bottom of the ship.

They hated having the yellow spotted tag on constantly.

I wish Lis rockets could be auto-guided if a lock-on is placed.

[spiral stratus]

To ptfo you need one or two assault, one or two medics and one engineer or an extra assault or medic. Nearly impossible otherwise. The squad needs to be tight and very agressive pushing forward.

[vocal tusk]

Or 4 supports.

Ability to fast revive to full HP, heal and resupply as falck is better than most things for team play.

[frozen loom]

I play solo 99% of the time.

All the heals in the world can't counter an enemy heli.

[vocal tusk]

I play Lis most of the time now.

[kindred flint]

did i miss an update note where they reduced the total amount of reserve ammo for like all LMGs?

[mental delta]

GG everyone

It was a good game

[frozen loom]

[obtuse ingot]

Does anyone have recommendations on the easiest vehicle to get this achievement? Preferably I don't want to sit in a vehicle and spam motion sensors

[severe hill]

Ram

75 howitzer

[obtuse ingot]

the ram seems super daunting

6000 kills/assists/respawns

[vital quail]

I got the t1 achievement on the pondhawk by a glitch. I just had to get the first mastery level, so like 30 assits/kills. I have suggested a few times but have not got feedback on if it still works.

[kindred flint]

aod member ironically with a name epicmeltdown... losing his shit with his bad attackers in rush xl

[rugged blaze]

Should I buy 2042?

Is it worth it

[obtuse ingot]

It's $5 just try it

It's fun if you like infantry combat and runs well

[rugged blaze]

mmm

I see

Alr

Wouldn't hurt i guess

Tyyy

[frozen loom]

No one likes using the hovercraft.

[patent pivot]

IF THERE'S A GODAMN OCEAN

[frozen loom]

True.

[kindred flint]

my brother in christ it hovers over more things than just water

[patent pivot]

Bring back naval combat

[frozen loom]

Vespero has the shore. Close enough, but no cigar because I never see anyone using it.

[patent pivot]

Shits cool AF

[frozen loom]

Give us Paracel Storm map.

[patent pivot]

Give us a better assault mode

[kindred flint]

its so weird when you play a rush match on it...and all that area is flooded again

[patent pivot]

Let's storm enemy base

Whilst defending our own

Pls

[frozen loom]

We need warships.

[kindred flint]

no way

[frozen loom]

To fire from deep in the ocean.

Submarines too.

[kindred flint]

the average gamer in BF these days cant use a ship, compared to 1942

[frozen loom]

I can't even use an aircraft.

[kindred flint]

ground only troop is the real way to play

because dice cant balance vehicles worth a damn

what part of illegal is too hard to comprehend

[vital quail]

Why can't the mods be more proactive

[kindred flint]

because we have to do the job their paid to do for them

well the first part of it

[arctic grove]

Are you broke? Sounds like a personal problem

[naive ember]

Old mods >

[vital quail]

Shutup bum

[naive ember]

Get it bro

[kindred flint]

meanwhile a bunch of unpaid interns (fans) of an EA game were superior at moderating a more active server, than the dead space we are in waiting for the next title to be released

[naive ember]

It's been dead cause of them

Remember how active this server used to be

[kindred flint]

it died down between bfv and 2042 too

[still vault]

"Battlefield community veterans" would be the nice way to fraise that

but oh well

[pine roost]

Based ultrakill enjoyers is another

[merry heart]

Didn't 1942 have subs?

[merry heart]

Nice way to strawberry that?

[merry heart]

Get Deez nutz

[naive ember]

[zealous loom]

[merry heart]

Forever Young.

I want to be forever dumb.

[zealous loom]

Being dumb is underrated

[merry heart]

The question now is

How did I get a cut on my back just now?

[kindred flint]

too much starch in your shirt?

[limpid pond]

Any ps5 2042 players in here that are good?

I switched to ps5 not to long ago and the sensitivity and controller just feels delayed. I play 60 sense 0 aim assist with claw and my dead zones are 3 -0 for left and 3-0 for right but it feels like there's a massive delay when looking left and right

So I need possible controller help. I wanna play on PC but don't have one ATM because im.better on mnk than roller but will do for now

[kindred flint]

lmao rush xl on stranded is sooo shit

the fucking 2nd sector... defenders just getting on that 2nd floor is beyond annoying

[eager spire]

i feel like you could say Rush XL is shit in general and you'd still be correct

[atomic geode]

Yall how do i know if the shaders are loaded cuz when i play any mod the game get crash and no render and low fps

[wispy rampart]

is there a consensus on whether or not to get the elite edition? How essential are those specialists, weapons, and vehicles for someone who might be invested long term?

(less interested in the cosmetics)

If these are things I can unlock reasonably, I'll get the regular version and grind out the stuff

[kindred flint]

you can unlock all the guns and specialists by doing their unlock challenges, theyre not locked behind a paywall outside the base game

and since you can do it vs bots a lot of that stuff can be done rather quickly

[wispy rampart]

ok then I'll get the regular version, thank you!

[dusty elm]

these pistols are making me sick

what is the worst 2042 pistol?

[barren cloud]

anyone else coming from call of duty and becoming a battlefield person.. my only issue is im not use to huge map and different ranges, i cant see anyone while they hitting me a mile away i dont have the eyes to notice ppl so far away but sniping is my favorite by far

just bought 2042 downloading it now

my bro got me 1,4,5 for b-day and now im loving em im trying the others out

5 was my fav so far

we shall see after i finish download 2042

[dusty elm]

just put in hours & you'll get good

[merry heart]

NVK i think?

[frozen loom]

A fellow Gabriel Dropout enjoyer.

[merry heart]

[frozen loom]

[merry heart]

dear dice pls dont make a map like exposure again

thanks

[frozen loom]

The cliffside one?

[merry heart]

yea

[frozen loom]

Dear EA, make all the out of bounds area completely flat. Thx.

[sullen violet]

Sounds like this is turning into one of these please remove anything that can kill me

[patent pivot]

Dear dice

Bring back naval

[merry heart]

nah its a poorly executed map honestly

[sullen violet]

That map was actually pretty good in the begining with only 128p. Basically the only place you could get some close quarter action. Exposure on cliffside helipad

Also actually hour glass stadium too, funny enough that turned into it's own map 😛

[patent pivot]

Bring back assault

[merry heart]

i perseonally preferred the entirety of hourglass imo

[sullen violet]

As for 64p was it really that bad and what made it soo bad in your eyes?

Or 128p for that matter

[merry heart]

its the way battles flowed overall imo

[spare quest]

pf51

[frozen loom]

Is that the multi-shot pistol?

[spare quest]

pf51 is the full auto one

pea shooter

[frozen loom]

Oh, it's alright. Just that it reloads as long as a LMG and its recoil is wild.

I'm stuck between the Deagle and the G18.

Enemies get scared when they hear the deagle.

[vital quail]

Those are really the only 2 anyone should use

[frozen loom]

I like the NVK pistol too.

[dusty elm]

nope incorrect the M93R has a effective range of about 100+ meters & it has less damage with almost the same recoil as the pf51. The pf51 has a effective range of 160+ meters with way more ammo than the M93R

[vital quail]

If you are using any sidearm at 100+ meters something is seriously wrong with you

[dusty elm]

you can tell that to the bots which are way more accurate at shooting than me & you

[dusty elm]

kids

[vocal tusk]

Exposure was one of my favorite season maps. It did suffer from having 2 map layouts for 64/128P tho...and its spawns on CQ 64 dont make sense.

[frozen loom]

I got used to keep redeploying after I run out of AA missiles just to get more again so I can take out aircrafts fast.

In that map.

[vocal tusk]

The CQ64 version of Exposure should have vehicle spawns in the lower valley part of the map. IMO that would make it much better, and keep a more infantry combat focus on the upper section.

[chilly jacinth]

Personally would like them to either remove the top or bottom section

It just plays awfully with both those areas active on 64p

[vocal tusk]

the top area plays badly cos youre constantly defending from vehicles, then the bottom plays bad cos there are none there.

Top would have been nicer if it used the flag area to the north, and made it a 2 flag sector tho.

Realistically, it could have been any number of flag combinations.

[vital quail]

I honestly always hate when a ram drives into the inside area

[vocal tusk]

Levelution events to destory vehicle access to the tunnel when?

[vital quail]

Even like some bollards or something

[vocal tusk]

RAM can just drive over them haha

[vital quail]

Tall ones

[vocal tusk]

That vehicle was not made to work within the existing blockers on levels.

[vital quail]

Would have to have them on the helipad area too tho because you can just call it in there

[vocal tusk]

Remove RAM APS! 😛

[vital quail]

Or like lower the ceiling at points where it would be possible to enter inside just enough to block it

[vocal tusk]

Realistically, they should be able to place blocker zones, which disallow vehicles to be called in inside that radius. Places like that helipad, rooftops, ETC

[tame frost]

Just played battlefield 2042 for the first time and dang game is slept on and better then cod pvp fils like old bf but in future. It's great 👍 👌

Why is this game Hated its better then cod pvp

Are they gonna add anything else to game or is there new game in the works

[naive ember]

EA come say thank you to the guy

[vocal tusk]

The game was terrible on launch, buggy mess, unoptimized and missing core elements of BF game (Class system, scoreboard, VOIP) and the maps were all terrible. This is why it was hated.

It took about 18 months post release for it to get to a state it should have released in, but by that time the damage to the games reputation had been done.

[tame frost]

Ahhh so people who played when launch they never got to see how good it became 😒 that sucks game is great best war pvp I played since old cod and old bf

[vocal tusk]

Many did through free trials, heavy discounts, ETC. But its much harder to get people to leave positive reviews, versus negative reviews.

2042 is also far from perfect...mainly the issues (For me) being its over reliance on matchmaking for core modes, lack of persistent servers and map rotations and its lack of a server browser for those modes.

[tame frost]

Fills good to me hope for the new bf game I hear it comes out in October but just rumor

But I'm old school don't take much for me to like something

[naive ember]

Unfortunately most of the devs and other staff are kids that haven't been around 20+ years ago and experienced the golden age of fps

[tame frost]

I kinda want next bf to be in modern time like this time we are In

Maybe have campaign this time but yeah I'm hype for bf next game

[naive ember]

I'm not, they keep making horrible decisions and on purpose

Also seen some deleted content in here that is frightening

They're gonna fuck up the next game just like they did with this entire discord server

[waxen turret]

I hope it's good but i won't preorder lol

[vocal tusk]

No need to pre-order. Just buy the cheapest EA play sub and you'll likely get early beta access. Best way to test a game before making a purchase.

[brittle wind]

They should make a BF game that consists of maps like Operation Metro

[brittle wind]

I don't like 128 player maps because I'm in constant slow mo.

Glad they added 64 option

[brittle wind]

Baretta

[vivid rune]

Will there be double XP for the holidays?

[fiery tendon]

they better do that

[vivid rune]

I hope so to

[brittle wind]

Only thing I want from next BF is the continuation of their ''no SBMM'' mentality. BF is the only mainstream shooter with no SBMM or EOMM in it and I hope this continues, I don't want every match to turn into a tournament with no reward at the end. They should give us a server browser and persistent servers too tbh. 2042 doesn't have SBMM but it still disperses lobby after a match which makes no sense.

[frozen loom]

SBMM only really makes sense if your game has a ranked mode.

[naive ember]

Why no tournament? You like playing against trashy players?

[noble flicker]

naber gençlik

[vagrant patrol]

Im looking for a gunship crew 2042

[naive ember]

Gunship for noobs

[frozen loom]

Spaceship pls.

[naive ember]

[crimson zealot]

did smth changed with the infinite loading screen

ofc bf 2042

[naive ember]

What're you talking about bud?

[crimson zealot]

satelite loading screen is infinite

[naive ember]

That's only your problem

[crimson zealot]

no

its been for 3 years now for many people

[brittle wind]

I'm fine with sweating sometimes but I mostly play shooters as a way to relax. I don't want my every match to be ranked, that's why I don't play Siege or CS GO anymore. Too sweaty for me. Also BF as a game is designed to have a variety of skill levels. Good players can pick up assault/medic or vehicles and become the top fraggers for the team while bad players can pick up engineer or recon to play a support role. If they are going to implement SBMM then remove everything but medic lmao because no one will use anything but medic in higher levels.

[crimson zealot]

?

i need mental help rn

[naive ember]

Dude many of the top players play recon you have the wrong idea

[vital quail]

Your bait has been underwhelming lately ngl

Kinda washed

[naive ember]

Thought I heard something 🤔, must be a ghost or something

[uneven ibex]

Posted

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Santa's just showing off at this point... 🎅

🎬 u/PrincessSativa65

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Dec 23, 2024, 4:30 PM

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[naive ember]

Nobody cares

[brittle wind]

You can find good players maining all those classes, sweaty lobbies will gravitate towards medic, that's the point. Why wouldn't sweats use the class that can heal themselves? Every other class is weaker compared to medic for people who purely play for KD ratio.

[naive ember]

Most of them don't use medic that's what I'm trying to tell you

[merry heart]

You heard Deez nutz doe

Eeehhh I'm just kidding

[merry heart]

KD ratio is the most toxic detail ever added to the FPS genre.

And that's coming from someone whose been playing FPS for 30+ years now.

[spare quest]

ok boomer

[merry heart]

No u

[spare quest]

[merry heart]

[verbal meteor]

is the G428 good?

[merry heart]

Yes

[verbal meteor]

i saw ppl using it and it seemed prety good

[merry heart]

If you're not playing the G428 at full auto you're playing it wrong.

[spare quest]

m39 > g428

[vital quail]

All worse than the svk

[spare quest]

m39 has a lower ttk

[merry heart]

My go to is the VCAR

[spare quest]

underrated af

ppl are just too lazy to spam their fire button

[merry heart]

If you ain't tapping fast enough with the VCAR, you ain't fapping fast enough.

[fickle wharf]

finger hurt 😦

[spare quest]

no pain no gain

[warped pulsar]

I hope for some battlefield 2025 news next month

[still vault]

I hope for Battlefield news all months

[kindred flint]

wdym you dont have to tap at all with it

[spare quest]

[kindred flint]

bro trust, ive seen the experts using it

funniest shit though was people macroing the ac42 like..really

[spare quest]

But thats allowed

[kindred flint]

[spare quest]

I found a french youtuber once who uploaded videos of him using the ac42 full auto macro reported him with YT links as evidence but he‘s still playing

[kindred flint]

least shocking thing ive heard

meanwhile i got warned for laughing in chat

[spare quest]

[kindred flint]

the only way you get people punished for cheating, is making it blow up on reddit then a dev is like "oh my ive reported this one internally!"

because apparently there cant exist a system to check for like 95% hs rating or something stupid like that

[spare quest]

The world is not ready for this kind of tech yet

[merry heart]

[kindred flint]

just ask around

there are cool programs you press a mouse button once i hear, and then your single fire gun, is suddenly an MG

super cool tech, really good for gameplay

[merry heart]

[naive ember]

[naive ember]

Hey @ you wanna play some cod with me tonight then 2042 for a few afterwards?

[fiery stump]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-snowman-trees-merry-dance-gif-24260925

[brittle wind]

Yeah

[brittle wind]

M39 has some of the worst visual recoil in the game, it's a short range DMR, G428 is also a short range DMR(2 body shot in 10 meter range) but it's also good in long and mid range. G428 is better. My favorite DMR is BSVM though. It's just so versatile.

[mental delta]

I hope next BF game is real

I hope the 15th of February 2025 incident won't impact game's development too hard either

[merry heart]

What if they don't want to

[merry heart]

Are you talking about Ass-ass-in's Creed Shadows?

[merry heart]

"experts"

[mental delta]

Maybe...

It all depends

[naive ember]

Pretty sure you're upset that I invited them instead of you

[wispy rampart]

Am I able to just open up a map alone (no players, no AI) to just explore it?

[dusty elm]

Yes in Portal you can do that

[remote kiln]

find a empty portal server

[wispy rampart]

I'm looking at the options to host portal servers and I see lots of game modes, but nothing vanilla. And selecting a game mode seems to auto-select a map

could i maybe select free for all, but then select a map? Not sure why its auto selecting one for me

[dusty elm]

what do you mean by nothing vanilla?

[wispy rampart]

I guess free for all is fine, just something to explore a specific map in

[dusty elm]

as far as I know custom free for all or custom TDM

[dusty elm]

if your a begginer then free for all is a good start

[wispy rampart]

thanks, and is there any way to select a specific map?

[dusty elm]

yes under Core>Map Rotations

[wispy rampart]

Where would I find core?

[dusty elm]

on the upper left side

[wispy rampart]

Of which window, sorry? I'm not seeing core on the upper left side at any point of creating a portal lobby

Browse, Host

And then when selecting a game mode there's nothing in the top left

When I launch a game, I still don't see core either

[dusty elm]

you need to create a new custom game from this website https://portal.battlefield.com/

[wispy rampart]

ahh I see, not what I'm used to for creating lobbies for a game

[dusty elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ytylvOXOE

[wispy rampart]

Thank you!

[merry heart]

Who said I wanted to in the first place?

[naive ember]

Even if you wanted to you wouldn't be able to keep up

Likely scenario is you getting kicked off the squad

[tame crow]

you wouldnt make my squad

you not used to the weather at the top of leaderboard

[naive ember]

Best squad with just 3 of us in rush xl bud

[tame crow]

stop harassing me with pings

[analog escarp]

Anyone wanna play

[kindred flint]

and there it is, the ultimate BFD cringe post 👏

[tame crow]

how is the weather at the bottom?

must be chilly down there, heat rises you know

[kindred flint]

bros trying to trash talk when I take a week off playing, come back first game and im at the top of the scoreboard this game isnt hard bro, stop trying to flex you might pull a muscle

[tame crow]

blud is playing ai in portal ay lmao

[zealous loom]

I'm ngl, I tried Delta Force and i think 2042 is better

[tame crow]

older bf games are better than both

[zealous loom]

Easily

[tame crow]

2042 clears Hardline and that is about it

[zealous loom]

Accurate

[tame crow]

dont get hopes up for next bf game but just hope a miracle happens lol

[zealous loom]

Yeah I'm being cautiously optimistic, I feel like me and many others are giving them one more chance and hopefully they realize that and don't fuck it up

Hopefully the extended play test helps

[kindred flint]

fucking impossible to play rush xl renewal last sector because the server is fucking dying

amazing game mode dice, actual genius move

[ivory merlin]

Why has EA/DICE completely abandonded reviewing cheat reports? People are blatantly rage hacking and being reported and I'm just watching them level up brand new accounts with 90% headshot percentage on every gun.

[kindred flint]

nah, just good gaming chair and headsets bro, all in your mind

[neon igloo]

Why does the player report not work? has EA just given up on this game?

[vital quail]

It's not going to be instant

[merry heart]

guize

how do i use Lis

[fickle wharf]

intercept not chase for air

[merry heart]

i see. how come when i watch some 2042 lis guides they miss the vehicle but are able to explode the missile?

[vital quail]

Hold the reload button

[merry heart]

are you trolling me

[vital quail]

Or the switch weapon button, one of the 2. I don't play lis

That's what it is on controller at least

[tame crow]

yea i am probably giving one more chance until i ignore future releases

[patent pivot]

Wot??

I'm the opposite

[tame crow]

wait you think Hardline was better than 2042? ..... what you smokin? lol

[patent pivot]

Hardline had BF elements

2042 barely retains any

[tame crow]

Hardline was one of the worst games i played the year it came out. I hated it.

[patent pivot]

Because it's not military theme?

[tame crow]

i think i had it as my worst game that year

[patent pivot]

Yes. Or no

[tame crow]

the cops and robbers schtick was cringe

[patent pivot]

Ignore the theme for one moment

Gameplay is still the same

[tame crow]

i didnt like the rest either

not a fan of the gunplay in that game

[patent pivot]

Shits almost the same as 4

[tame crow]

the visuals not a fans of, the maps didnt really interest me

[patent pivot]

2042 gunplay is a downgrade

All the details gone

Basic as shit

[severe hill]

Feels like your shooting a airsoft gun.

[patent pivot]

Told you

Gunshot don't sound good in 2042

[severe hill]

Sound for the weapons including the portal weapons are abysmal

Lack of fully costumization.

[patent pivot]

Portal gun sounds are either reusable or downgraded bit rate

[severe hill]

The plus system is just cheese play because instead of challenging the player to perform better in customizing their weapons for certain scenarios, they can easily just change it on the fly. Unless they are doing that for a Br, don't make it an element in the base game.

[patent pivot]

The tac sprint and sliding

Really a cod staple

[severe hill]

And micro destruction effects using standard weapons is bad.

[patent pivot]

Ye

[merry heart]

im still not understanding her Lissile. i see in some Lis guides that they're not directly hitting the vehicle with it but a near miss to be close enough to completely obliterate it.

whenever i do a near miss it misses completely

[merry heart]

if i recall, someone did a video comparing tactical sprint vs regular sprint. he concluded that tactical sprint was worse in this game because of the time to draw your weapon was slightly slower compared to regular sprint. and that's crucial in sudden fire fights.

[abstract night]

Guns felt and sounded amazing in bf4/1

[tame crow]

bf1 was goated

[oak crest]

Nice.

[vestal tinsel]

Hello i have a question please. How muxh size does it take the battlefield 2042 on ps4? Thank you

[neon igloo]

I agree with you.

[pine roost]

It’s sitting at around 95 on pc. So I’d assume roughly the same

[vestal tinsel]

Ok deal thank you. Is it a good game and worth to buy? I play always battlefield 5. I liked this game so will i enjoy 2042 or the 5 is better?

[pine roost]

What is it you enjoy about 5

[chilly jacinth]

It's not worth buying for ps4

[naive ember]

Better off playing cod

[vestal tinsel]

Cod is amazing for the campaign but for the online battlefield is amazing specially battlefield 1

[vestal tinsel]

Very smooth, good transitions, good weapons and amazing maps

[naive ember]

2042 MP is the best BUT the devs keep making poor decisions and turning players off

[vestal tinsel]

What do you mean about the devs is making poor decisions?

[naive ember]

in general keeps making poor decisions

Taking away good game modes and replacing them with shitty ones

[vestal tinsel]

Yeah you have a point

[naive ember]

Rush XL is on the front page but it's going to be gone soon and replaced with something bad

Back and forth with trash

[vestal tinsel]

Specially that when battlefield 2042 was released there was no campaign+ poor transitions and graphics. The game keep lagging and glitching. Did they fix these?

[naive ember]

I had enough of it and moved on the cod for the most part

Still lag

Not to mention they got rid of redacted only

[vestal tinsel]

Cod is the best for the campaign stories.

Black.ops and modern warfare uff amazing

[vestal tinsel]

Uff. Then i think i might buy the new black ops game😂 but I'm hesitated since i only care for the story and not for the online

[naive ember]

B06 MP is bad

[remote kiln]

1: theres still no campaign
2: the graphics are fine now
3: this was resolved a few years ago

lagging/glitching is unavoidable in any modern shooter, the issues you are describing specifically at launch were resolved however

[vocal tusk]

The graphics were fine at launch, the maps were bad.

2042s engine is a big visual upgrade over bfv. BFV has so much visual pop in when moving around.

[verbal meteor]

how do you enter boot maps on Portal?

[vocal tusk]

Boot maps?

You mean bot? If yes, you'll need to configure a bot only mode yourself in the portal builder, then host it. Or find an already hosted server listed as AI/bot only.

[verbal meteor]

i saw on youtube that are ppl that are traying guns on a map with boots as targets and it count as a kill

[vocal tusk]

You can play solo and coop to okay against bots.

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

Sleigh your way through the battlefield in Breakthrough Chaos! Attack and defend each sector with festive fury this week in #Battlefield2042 - Holiday Protocol! 🎅❄️

𝕏 | 📷1 · Dec 24, 2024, 1:30 PM

[hard jay]

So quirky! Please buy our shit!

[naive ember]

I told you guys they keep fucking up

Too much c word upstairs apparently

[kindred flint]

coffee?

[still vault]

What's quirky about it?

[hard jay]

Sleigh your way through the battlefield in Breakthrough Chaos! Attack and defend each sector with festive fury this week in #battlefield-legacy-titles2042 - Holiday Protocol!

[still vault]

A festive description was to be expected I think

[placid echo]

It's just talking about the weekly Playlist update for Christmas week

Which is something that like... every single multiplayer game does, so...

[vestal tinsel]

Thank you for answering me

[naive ember]

They do it better though

[waxen turret]

Delta Force vs Battlefield2042 steam charts xDDD

[verbal meteor]

is the AK5C good?

[vital quail]

Yes

[naive ember]

No it's not

Junk gun

[still vault]

The comparison doesnt make sense. Plain silly.

[waxen turret]

It says a lot xD

Second day after bf2042 release playercount was way below 100k

😂

[vocal tusk]

Free game > 70 dollar game

Free game that will be as dead in 2 months

That copy pasted 2042

Lol

[still vault]

Says nothing. 2042 was released on several platforms, not just steam. Also you are comparing a free, but pay to win title, to a paid game with cross play which was also on game pass

[waxen turret]

bf2042 just sucks

deltaforce is better then 2024

2042

[vital quail]

Honeymoon phase

[vocal tusk]

Enjoy those 5 maps for the next 4 months. Then one map every 4 months after that.

[waxen turret]

i dont really play DF, i enjoy bf4 more 😄

[vocal tusk]

So you praise a game you don't even play. Troll alert.

[waxen turret]

i play DF this morning

and tbh its better dan 2042 😄

[vital quail]

Ok

[naive ember]

IGN gave it a 7

[brittle wind]

Marvel Rivals beating both CoD and DF combined Remove SBMM then I might play DF or CoD too

[bitter mulch]

Merry Christmass Battlefield family

[brittle wind]

It’s good if you want a stealth SFAR, otherwise don’t bother, I mostly use SMGs for stealth so I have no use for it

[hearty kiln]

More portal vehicles in AOW for Christmas 🙏

[brittle wind]

2042's maps aren't good, weapons are meh compared to V too. It's still fun but play it only after you are done with V, that's why I'm playing

Hopefully keeps me going until BF6

[placid echo]

To be fair a free to play multiplayer game using Marvel's ip is destined to do well

[brittle wind]

Avengers game says hi

Oh it wasn't F2P but still

[placid echo]

It was also basically single player

Basically because the co op wasn't... great

[patent pivot]

That guy is simping for 2042

No need to reason

[placid echo]

I feel like the word simp should only really apply from human to human relationships

Especially since it's mostly used with parasocial relationships but that's just me lol

[hearty kiln]

Rivals is fun to play with my son

The ranked isn't as fun imo as the casual

[brittle wind]

Casuals who hasn't played any non SBMM game were glazing over matchmaking times in Marvel Rivals It's diabolical how it's a luxury nowadays to have organic matchmaking, Rivals doesn't have SBMM in casual which is why it takes 2 seconds to find a match

[hearty kiln]

Watched my buddies get eviscerated by a 45-2 hela though in ranked so that was funny 😅

[merry heart]

[placid echo]

Also I'm sure a lot of df players are there for that extraction mode instead

Especially given the state of EFT

[silent perch]

merry christmas everyone!
does anyone know how to fix the no friends showing online on ea app or in game? was fine until about a week ago, no i cant see any friends when they are online 😦

all on pc, not cross platform or steam etc

[chilly jacinth]

You can't fix it

[remote kiln]

verify the game files, should fix the issue

[silent perch]

thanks ill try it. have already deleted and re-downloaded but didnt verify. fingers crossed

[chilly jacinth]

That has never worked for me

[silent perch]

i dont see an option to do that. repair yes, verify no

[silent perch]

i couldnt even find the verify game option lol any ideas?

[chilly jacinth]

Are you playing through steam?

[silent perch]

no ea app

[chilly jacinth]

Dunno how you do it on the ea app

You could google it

[silent perch]

tried but all the suggestions are for steam 😕 dont fancy complicating things with steam but sounds like it might actually be a solution at this point.

[pine roost]

Should be on the game’s page on your library under the three dots or something

[silent perch]

nah i cant see it, all the solutions appear to be through steam. might just try linking it, although i try to avoid using steam in honesty. i dont like the idea of everything linked like that.

[pine roost]

Well I know for a fact it has a verify option

But I don’t know specifically what your issue is

But my all means go ahead

[brittle wind]

2042's maps wouldn't be that bad if the game had spread honestly

I wonder how will they fix the gunplay in BF6

Spread(BF3,4,1) or spread to recoil conversion(V)?

[silent perch]

the issue is non of my friends show as online in game or on the ea app. and same for my friends so we cannot matchmake and squad up. any chance you could screen shot where the verify files option is please?

[silent perch]

i like the maps and the game idk why it got hate tbh.. i like the gunplay also. i wouldnt want it to be the same as another bf title or i would just play that game instead lol

[chilly jacinth]

Moving back to the older gunplay would be a massive downgrade

[brittle wind]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-gif-18674679

I dislike the maps because they are too flat. Like flat minecraft map. They also have verticality to great extent.

90 degree verticality though not a gradual increase(for example Iwo Jima)

I dislike gunplay because you can beam people from 200 meters with assault rifles

It's not bad in small maps though

Redacted is pretty good

I also like Spearhead because it's nowhere near as flat as other maps, there are hills and rocks to use as cover

[chilly jacinth]

Your average player definitely can't hit shit beyond 100m

[brittle wind]

I dunno man I think even PC has aim assist to an extent, at least that's how it feels like to me, I got many lucky headshots in 10 meters range

[chilly jacinth]

It doesn't

[brittle wind]

Well I just got lucky then lol

[naive ember]

[remote kiln]

yes it does

[abstract night]

So many reasons

It’s not about it being a clone of older games. It’s just about being so different than what the franchise had and was expanding on and just doing a 180

[silent perch]

call of duty just left the chat lol

[abstract night]

Cap

[abstract night]

As much hate as CoD sometimes understandably gets it sticks to its formula

[hollow raven]

no it doesnt

[silent perch]

do you think so? i dont think they have a clue what people want worse now than ever. sbmm ebmm active aim assist and damage dependant on how much money you spend on skins n shit? so out of touch what a good game should be imo

[hollow raven]

giv us another stupid statement to laugh at

keep typing lol

[abstract night]

To be fair acti has (said)confirmed that how many skin bundles a player owns does not factor into the sbmm system. But I agree that eomm is predatory and needs to die

But as for the actual 6v6 gameplay it has been the same for a very long time. Ofc there’s gonna be different features and mechanics to make it somewhat different here and there

[naive ember]

It's all about warzone

[silent perch]

suffer the same problems.. never mind the cheater issue

[naive ember]

It's still fun

[abstract night]

Definitely war zone as of the last almost 6 yrs but I’m a MP guy and hate WZ personally

[brittle wind]

It does factor though, people who ''uses'' skins gets easier lobbies

[silent perch]

they literally have patents for that shit its def a thing

[brittle wind]

I've been killed by so many of the green dragon skin users in BO6

[abstract night]

Sometimes owning a patent is about preventing your competition from getting ahold of it

[silent perch]

it was for a while but i always seemed to get put with the same bunch of players. gave up on that mess in 2022

[naive ember]

It's a new warzone now

It's called Warzone 2

[silent perch]

perhaps, but nah they def using it.

[silent perch]

based on that hot mess that is bo6? ill pass lol played the free weekend but the rubber banding and clipping was horrific, id hate to think what thats like in a 120 player lobby

[abstract night]

Btw there is a difference between sbmm and eomm, it’s an interesting discussion we had before in another channel. SBMM is definitely necessary for onboarding new players and keeping them retained. It’s an industry standard for a good reason, EOMM is the boogeyman everyone is really talking about

[silent perch]

neither is needed for a good experience, in the old days thats how you improved at a game.. to many bitchin snow flakes these days. 'oh no he killed me' then complains like a pussy rather than just getting good, the devs cater to the bottom tier noobs

[pine roost]

Eomm is a plague, SBMM works for me if the skill differential in a match is still fairly wide. I want to feel like I’m making progress but also challenged by some opponents

But seeing how people react to good players in bf, people seem to be allergic to anyone who wants to actually improve

[vocal tusk]

Battlefield games use a form of EOMM to balance games pre round AFAIK.

[silent perch]

and thank god they dont use anything as stern as cod..

[vocal tusk]

All it does it try to balance teams so games aren't as insanely one sided as they could be. But there is no pre game SBMM

[silent perch]

tbh, i feel like they turned it off some time ago or dont factor in ping whatsoever which is the deal breaker in most lobbies imo

[brittle wind]

Max Hoberman explains it pretty good, he explains when he was designing Halo 2 and 3's ranked mode he tried to have different sets of skills in every SBMM match. Sometimes you stomp noobs, sometimes you get stomped, sometimes it's an evenly competitive match. He explains he tried to avoid having evenly competitive matches all the time because it's even more exhausting than getting stomped. He also says he deliberately avoided using SBMM algorithms in casual play. Casual play is based on ping and connection and not level or skill.

[brittle wind]

Yeah team balancer isn't SBMM. I'm fine with team balancer because it doesn't try to mess up with my connection unlike SBMM, also it wouldn't be fun if one team got all the good players and other team got all the bad players.

[spare quest]

what

[vocal tusk]

SBMM matches players of equal skill together and against one another. It doesn't place good players on one team, bad on another.

[zealous loom]

Yeah SBMM is fine with me, it's the EOMM that rigs your chances is what I hate more than anything in gaming

If CoD had regular SBMM I would probably be playing it, but it doesn't

[frozen loom]

Put all the vehicle lovers in one match and let them fight it out for the seats.

"Boots on the ground? Not on my watch."

[vital quail]

Whoever has the fastest autoclicker gets the heli

[placid echo]

Good thing I can click 9.6 times a second

[frozen loom]

Select button assigned to wheel scroll.

Wheel scroll to oblivion.

[merry heart]

I click 28.4 times a second without an auto clicker no cap

[frozen loom]

[merry heart]

Scroll wheel doesn't work in this game I tried no cap

[frozen loom]

I once assigned my consumable to a wheel scroll in a MMO. I tanked an entire guild's advancements alone.

[merry heart]

[frozen loom]

Ate like 100 enhanced carrots a second.

[hardy zinc]

rtx 4060 ryzen 5 5600x in game 70-90 fps on min setting its normal?

[pine roost]

Sounds perfect. That’s exactly what I want.

[brittle wind]

You can find his tweet about it, good read imo. I personally don't want SBMM in casual. If there is going to be SBMM it should be in ranked.

[frozen loom]

My teammates are clueless.

Play the objectives.

[silent perch]

unless you go in with a squad you can be 99% certain you will get no team players. and seeing as i cant squad up before i play anymore ive just given up even trying. its shit like this that diminishes the player base 😦

[merry heart]

any actual Lis players here? i just have a few questions about her TGM.

[kindred flint]

crank the vehicle sense bar all the way up so you can 360 no scope with it

[merry heart]

ok but seriously

im watching this fucking Lis guides and they never go directly into the target but near miss the target but still able to destroy the vehicle. like wtf is this and how do i do that

[kindred flint]

probably shitty netcode

i know i near miss nightbird/stealths constantly and it doesnt register

i was literally dying behind cover last night in a dying rush xl renewal server... it got so fucking bad

[spare quest]

If im like 1mm off my rocket ain´t gonna hit any vehicle

[merry heart]

https://youtu.be/IQJCQNVQmoA?si=CW6LUTGjFqNPm1LJ&t=426

im watching this btw

[kindred flint]

7:46 was straight bullshit

the camera was already flying past where the tail section was, then the games wait wait, no you hit that actually!

[spare quest]

i wish my rockets could do that

[merry heart]

how the FUCK does this guy do that

[kindred flint]

3c4
but uses rocket to detonate them?????

bro ps5 players are weird

[merry heart]

[kindred flint]

oh ok if youre farming the t1 i guess

jesus... dude hip fires an LMG with a moderate zoom scope on it, and it has literally no recoil

[vocal tusk]

You predict the vehicles movement and intercept.

Unsure if you are trolling, but that's a pretty basic concept haha

[merry heart]

easier said than done honestly

[vocal tusk]

How else do you use the Lis missile? Wait for them to fly in a straight line?

Or stop moving?

[merry heart]

yes i know but i was talking about how in some videos a Lissile misses the target but still gets the kill?

[vocal tusk]

Can happen I guess if the client and server are off. Like if the Lis users had really high ping.

[merry heart]

makes sense i guess

[vocal tusk]

But it is weird. It basically never happens to me. Maybe these people use a VPN to exploit such an issue for clips

If I miss, it's cos I actually missed. I never miss visually and get a hit.

Tho I have dodged missiles and seen them miss in 3rd person and had them hit me. It's basically why I never use helis anymore. Way too annoying

[stone wigeon]

Anyone wanna team up with mic?

[pseudo glade]

Hello sounds fun. im game if your online. 😁

[stone wigeon]

I’ll be on in like 10 mins

[pseudo glade]

epic!

gives me a sec to get the game up and runnin. throwing a lil error atm. delightful

[naive ember]

One day that will be us

[stone wigeon]

Anyone need a teammate with a mic . I’m on

[merry heart]

nah

[naive ember]

I said not you bud

[merry heart]

they said ea no you do

so

[placid pike]

What else?

[merry heart]

huh

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-roblox-huh-cat-huh-cat-saying-huh-gif-27625167

[strange tiger]

Merry Christmas boys

[zealous loom]

Merry Christmas

[naive ember]

[naive ember]

Morning I forgot to get presents for you

[bitter mulch]

Merry Christmas Battlefield family 😄

[arctic grove]

guys why is this game dying

[naive ember]

keeps making bad decisions that's why,

The BT chaos is a 5/10 experience

Why we didn't get BT XL instead is beyond me man

[still vault]

People going into discords saying stuff like x is "dying" or similar just needs to stop. Its just silly and makes gaming as a whole worse

[pine roost]

Can understand it in a way if you want to make sure that there are enough people active to get into lobbies

[gloomy arrow]

is there a aim training portal code still?

[mental delta]

Leafs on trees are dying

Because it's Winter

[warm glacier]

Hey im tryna play on controller on my PC

But the audio keeps cutting from my headphones

How to fix it

[naive ember]

Call geek squad

[junior lion]

Can someone help It been 5 month and it seems this is even common 😛 and somehow no one seems to have answered the problem

My mouse wont move. Well it move if I swing my Mouse is rough but it just looks down or up or spin 😛

So far what I found out is

A type of Razer Keyboard seems to confuse the game

Making it think it a Controller

by that the mouse do not work

T^T

[naive ember]

You gotta use a controller then

[junior lion]

D:

T^T

man I think it time for me to retire from this game T^T and I only got to play it for 7 hours T^T

I mean I tried T^T 5 month

Pls Anyone know help T^T

[naive ember]

T^T Controller >

[merry heart]

Call scam squad

[frozen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/frogs-anime-sad-frog-gif-25356025

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

Kick back, turn up your holiday tunes, and enjoy the festive action on the #Battlefield.

Happy Holidays! ❄️🎄🎅

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Dec 25, 2024, 5:02 PM

▻

[placid echo]

A Christmas Miracle happened. A close game of Redacted

[merry heart]

HAPPY ROBONNUKAH EVERYONE

[fiery tendon]

why half the servs are empty? could it be due xmas 😮

[thorny oracle]

nahh

[limpid pond]

Is it possible to be chat banned from all chat?

Also what's up with 80% of people still being bad at this game. I'm not on mnk so.unfortunatky I have to play controller but I still went 40 and 9 first game on in like 7 months. Also controller on ps5 feels so gross

[brittle wind]

Blasco T1 has to be the easiest operator T1 man

Close quarters conquest just makes it even easier

100 assists per match

[naive ember]

Not really it's strict here though

[kindred flint]

it seems its possible to have your EA account temp banned for chat infractions.. ask me how i know

or even straight up banned entirely

[naive ember]

Doesn't effect housepoor

[kindred flint]

with the dumb rush xl mode, casper is probably the easiest to t1 by far

[limpid pond]

Yeah I don't know why but I can't access all chat and haven't been able to for the past year or whenever season 6 ended

Easiest t1 was Casper during prime bf 2042

[kindred flint]

did you check your settings?

maybe the option is ticked off for being able to use all chat

[alpine vector]

Did Santa Boris get released or no?

[brittle wind]

Nah

[vital quail]

Do you have the setting turned on?

[limpid pond]

Yeah I believe I do. I only see 2 settings for it

[limpid pond]

Ignore me bruh. My dumbass was looking at the voice chat settings

[glacial finch]

does EA even ban people anymore ?

[still vault]

Sure they do. You listen to too many people on Reddit or wannabe Youtubers to even ask

[glacial finch]

Starting by glitchers using a glitch on redacted map

[plush solstice]

What's the fastest way to obtain XCE?

[vital quail]

What are they doing that would be a bannable offense

[plush solstice]

Specifically those 50 200m headshots

[vital quail]

Load up a match against bots on like kaleidoscope and snipe from the top of the middle building

Or any building

[plush solstice]

How to do that

[spare quest]

[vital quail]

Solo/co-op conquest when choosing a game mode

[plush solstice]

ahj

thanks

[plush solstice]

How do I get atop that building lmao

[vital quail]

Just spawn in a heli or jet and jump out

It's all bots

Or there's elevators for the skyscrapers

Set a ping to know the distance to stuff so you know where to shoot

[rose sail]

Why cant i find a game? I have been trying to play battlefield but it doesn't let me enter a game i can only enter costume games with terrible ping

[limpid pond]

So have they confirmed if they're adding any actual more content to 2042 or is it now a test ground for the new game

[vital quail]

Nothing new, just stuff from portal to normal modes mainly

[wise heath]

I’m back

After being muted

All I have to say is

Baltimore Orioles number one

Baltimore Orioles number one

[dusty elm]

The new battlefield game is nowhere near finished & someone decided it's a good idea to halt any new content on battlefield 2042

careless & lazyness

[limpid pond]

Yeah but typical ea will release it then spend the whole life cycle fixing it then when everyone thinks it's good they'll abandon it and make a new game

[dusty elm]

exactly never ending cycle

[limpid pond]

And we're the issue cause we still buy it. SMH. Wish they lowkey just kept updating 2042. Turn hazard zone into a more productive looter extraction shooter and honestly add newer maps to 2042 along with guns. I see they keep adding skins but not legit content.

[dusty elm]

That's right, If they kept on working on battlefield 2042 there is no new game that could ever replace it

at the end of the day they just want a quick buck

[limpid pond]

Yeah. I'm one of the few that really enjoyed 2042. Been with it since launch but took breaks from it. Games fun and a faster paced style I like to play fits it well. They could do alot but I'm just 1 out of 30 million or so people so all I have is hopes and dreams

[dusty elm]

I bought the game on pre-relase full of bugs so I decided to put the game aside for a year or 2 until its been fixed, got back & it feels like not much has been done it's like they abanded the game in the few months of release

[limpid pond]

From beta till now it does feel like a new game to me. Only issue I have is controller feels very delayed for inputs. I heard the same thing from mnk players with mouse input delay. When I get a PC I look forward to playing it on their for I am a better mnk player than I am on controller

[glacial finch]

Starting by using the Glitch in redacted map to farm ?

[dusty elm]

tiny bit better but not much progress

They had 3 years & they couldn't lift a finger on releasing new guns & balancing

Now I have to try & figure out in Portal how to balance the weapons

[static furnace]

RUSH XL please

the breakout XL is really stupid 😦

[abstract night]

It was a very good idea. Hopefully they put time, effort and resources into something more people actually want to play

[dusty elm]

and what do people want to play?

[dusty elm]

what is so bad about 2042 that they can't fix or update & have to go make a new game?

[brittle wind]

DICE always does that, BFV’s support was cut early too we should’ve gotten eastern front before 2042

[brittle wind]

Maps

[severe hill]

Battle of Kursk, Stalingrad, Leningrad, Barbarossa would have been lit.

[hard jay]

Game would've been lit if they focused on immersion like they did in bf1

[dusty elm]

To fix & update the maps would have been so much quicker & easier than creating a whole new game

[severe hill]

If my 4000lb does actual destruction instead of giving me a hit marker on a direct hit.

[abstract night]

The game has a lot of conceptual faults like 128s effects on map design, performance, optimization and destruction, specialists and all their quirks, and the exclusion of fan favorite ‘legacy features’ for who knows why

[kindred flint]

broooooo tell me about it, rounding that street corner in a hellriegel respawning then right into another hellriegel really put me in the ww1 mindset

[dusty elm]

They could have fixed & updated all of that starting from day one

[severe hill]

Literally world of war ships going on that map.

[abstract night]

The first 2 couldn’t be fixed or updated, it was far too late to do anything by launch

[severe hill]

2 Dreadnought doing a shock and awe on map

[abstract night]

I mean yeah they updated the launch maps but still only 3 of em are good

[brittle wind]

I mean yeah, but 2042 isn't attracting new players, so no reason to work on an old game with a stagnant playerbase than to make a new one

[vital quail]

Battlefield is not that type of game bro

[abstract night]

2042s impression was made on launch week and when everyone watched the games player base virtually disappear within the first 3 months of launch

[severe hill]

Battlefield is a semi realistic mix with arcade.

[dusty elm]

So how difficult is it to delete/remove the map that cannot be fixed & replace it with a new map that works & fits the game?

[abstract night]

Very

Since all of the launch maps were technically promotional material, they weren’t going anywhere

[dusty elm]

rubbish

[severe hill]

There are assets counts. Some buildings might not be a whole asset.

[vital quail]

They are not going to add war thunder mechanics to a fps

[abstract night]

A 4000lb bomb should definitely kill any tonk war thunder or not let’s be fair

[arctic grove]

Woah

[brittle wind]

Making new maps from scratch would be a waste of time and effort for a game with stagnant playerbase, 2042 isn't attracting new players, that's why I think they would rather try to make a new game

[abstract night]

Also what would be so wrong with adding some mechanics inspired by war thunder? I’m of the belief BF could definitely take notes from CoDs infantry gameplay and war thunders vehicle gameplay. Why not do something to snag some of the players from those two communities over

[dusty elm]

They can also remove & add new assets on the maps without any problems

[abstract night]

Not to steal them entirely but make BF more appealing to them while still being its own thing too

[severe hill]

Thats why they making a br

[dusty elm]

they can also reduce the size of the map without any limits

[brittle wind]

BF6 is going to have a BR mode too tbh and servers dies whenever I play on 128 player mode, they need to fix that I don't think it's fixable on 2042's engine

My CPU is old but not that old (Ryzen 7 3700X)

[abstract night]

They mostly did what they could to somewhat fix the biggest design issues with 2042, but again, why should devs even have to go in for a year of the games life just to rework launch content which got in the way of original content? This is why them cutting their losses and moving onto what should be a better project is better financially and PR wise for them. 2042 was conceptually flawed

[dusty elm]

don't forget in BR modes you only have 1 or 2 lives considering if there is 2nd chance in the gulag, Br modes reduces the player count real quick

[arctic grove]

Keep in mind Devs are humans too they are working on multiple projects at once and all because you all cry for change doesn’t mean it will happen right away lol

[severe hill]

Battlefield having BR ain't that bad. Firestorm had potiental with a fully destructible map, but you have to buy BFV to access it.

[arctic grove]

‘The customer is never right’

[abstract night]

Is this a general comment or is it directed at someone?

[brittle wind]

Yeah, paid BRs fails to be mainstream ever since Fortnite

[dusty elm]

Then why give the devs multiple projects they can't handle?

[arctic grove]

General lol

[severe hill]

Ceo want money.

Investors money

[brittle wind]

Some people say Blackout was better than Warzone too but Blackout was a flop due to it being behind a paywall

[arctic grove]

Part of the job

[severe hill]

I think cruise missiles should not be the main killstreak instead they should add gbu43-s and the Russian fab 3000 glide bombs as the new killstreak for the next Battlefield.

[abstract night]

I always felt kill streaks were too restrictive, they work for cods pace and design but I’d like those things to be actual vehicles/gadgets/weapons

[arctic grove]

Devs aren’t just sitting back and relaxing they work effortlessly to provide ideas and premium gaming content some devs don’t even get a holiday off

[severe hill]

Cruise missiles can be a cheaper alternative to the call in or commander

[arctic grove]

Be grateful 👍

[abstract night]

Commander was pretty cool

[brittle wind]

I think they should improve on BFV's subclasses

For the next game

[abstract night]

That is true. But I don’t like being charged 60 dollars for a product that doesn’t work on launch and is in a state by the time it’s life ends that it should’ve been in when it came out to begin with

[severe hill]

Bring back JDAM'S and incendiary bombs

[eager spire]

I have one big problem with Commander. I don't think someone who is not actively playing the game and not even present on the map should be allowed to fuck with anything.

[arctic grove]

Understandable but not the devs fault it’s the poor leadership that is rushing and pushing these devs to release a game early

[eager spire]

Not the devs fault

The devs can make their own poor choices, they are not blameless, please stop acting like they are.

they may not be the sole reason the game released poorly, but they definitely had bad decisions that did not help matters.

[arctic grove]

I remember when games took 2 -3 years to be released when they knew the game was actually finished

[eager spire]

be serious about this.

[abstract night]

People rightfully denounce publishers but yeah the actual studios are why you get weird balancing and design anomalies

[severe hill]

6 days until new years, hopefully we get fresh new info on the next Battlefield

[eager spire]

EA does not give a fuck about gameplay choices.

That is DICE's thing.

DICE makes all the choices there.

[arctic grove]

That is what happens when you have snowflakes with half their heads shaved developing games and supposedly they are “woke” 😂 what a circus

[brittle wind]

They should bring back BFV's movement

[eager spire]

Oh, how classy.

[abstract night]

I agree except for the slide and back prone

Those two things can kindly delete themselves

[eager spire]

What's brought this line of thinking up, genius?

[abstract night]

[severe hill]

Yes, but remove the back prone

[brittle wind]

Slide is great in BFV

It's not fast and controllable

[severe hill]

Slide is more controlled.

[abstract night]

I think BF is fine without a slide in general

[brittle wind]

2042's slide is fast and linear

[abstract night]

It’s either a spam button or it’s denounced as useless

[brittle wind]

Nah

[severe hill]

Basement bandit ah spam movement

[brittle wind]

What's wrong with back prone?

[arctic grove]

Think about it games now are kinda censored nowadays

[eager spire]

i like sliding.

[abstract night]

This focus on breakneck speed movement in triple A FPS is incredibly exhausting. I’m fine with some fast movement but if I need to rely on it to be able to play and compete that’s a problem

[eager spire]

I like games where you can move around quickly and that's an advantage and something you have to play around.

[brittle wind]

Lack of movement leads to no skill ceiling

[abstract night]

Which is why I don’t think there shouldn’t be some opportunities like bunny hopping, but yeah nah slide is just cringe

[eager spire]

What's brought this line of thinking up, i thought we were talking about gameplay decisions.

why is sliding cringe

i'd say having no kind of fast movement at all is even more cringe.

[abstract night]

I’m fine with a movement opportunity that allows you to get the drop on a player especially if they’re camping or something, but sliding again is either a spam button or people call it useless

[wispy rampart]

dont you know? battlefield was never a political game, and now woke people are bringing politics into it /s

[abstract night]

So you can’t really win with it unless it completely caters to sweats

[brittle wind]

BF isn't that fast + you don't need slide to compete, BFV's slide is completely balanced

[abstract night]

And again if I have to rely on movement to win gunfights all of the time that game is going to be exhausting to play and I’d actually argue it’s harmful for player retention

[eager spire]

I wanna hear it from that guy because they started being like that the second i started talking.

[brittle wind]

It doesn't even give you a speed boost

Over running

[arctic grove]

That is part of the decisions 😂

I remember when games had real blood and gore

[eager spire]

That's an aesthetic decision.

Not a gameplay one.

[arctic grove]

lol

[wispy rampart]

lots of games still do

[eager spire]

also, "real blood and gore" what do you mean, exactly?

[latent jasper]

this game so goofy bruh

tell me why i got tailgated by 3 f35s

[wispy rampart]

that too, too real can sometimes be a boring design choice

[eager spire]

it's all a simulation my guy

[arctic grove]

Yeah true but still 50/50

[latent jasper]

YOU CAN ONLY HAVE 2 AT A TIME

[abstract night]

I do not think players should be able to slide up hills or stairs. It only works the way it does because DICE wanted to avoid what happened with BF1

[wispy rampart]

when was it not 50/50?

[eager spire]

"real blood and gore" we're talking about a video game.

[brittle wind]

BFV's slide has momentum if I remember correctly, you can't slide uphill even if you wanted to at least not as effectively as sliding downhill

[wispy rampart]

battlefield never had real blood and gore

[brittle wind]

2042 is already a movement shooter anyways, that's why everyone jumps all the time, it's not sliding but jumpshotting is important in 1v1, people always use slidejumps to cover distances too

[latent jasper]

realistic blood and gore ig

[abstract night]

I’m fine with jump shotting

[eager spire]

Considering the scale of this game, what would having that bring? what would this accomplish?

[abstract night]

I just generally believe there needs to be balance between positioning/flanking and movement

[next onyx]

Bf5's was frictionless with no speed lost or added.

[wispy rampart]

frame drops

lol

[latent jasper]

ever heard of hll

[eager spire]

well yes

[vital quail]

The no hud weirdos would love that

[eager spire]

but don't tell these people about performance specs, they don't wanna hear about it.

they'd play this game at 12 FPS and claim that's realistic.

[latent jasper]

would def add sum intense factor to the game if ur going for a realistic approach

[eager spire]

because they have several strokes.

[latent jasper]

not sure how bf plans on going

[abstract night]

Immersive design elements are fine

It doesn’t have to be all about padding a K/D. I still want a war game I can immerse myself into

[eager spire]

I don't think BF is a game that needs to be entirely realistic/"immersive". It was never about that in the past.

[latent jasper]

yall ever played bf1 without the hud

[vital quail]

Fr

[eager spire]

Not even back in BF2. Dolphin diving was a movement mechanic back then.

[latent jasper]

depends on the path bf devs wanna take

[wispy rampart]

there are other recent BF games for that as well, and they're great. I don't think it's inherently a bad thing that they wanted to make one game that's more lighthearted

[latent jasper]

if they wanna keep it arcadey, then dont add it

[abstract night]

Well I agree, and fortunately I don’t necessarily think anyone is saying that to begin with. There’s maybe some people like that but they’re far and few between

[abstract night]

What game are you referring to?

[latent jasper]

bf1 def felt like it was meant to be immersive

[wispy rampart]

BF1

[eager spire]

There are two paths the devs could take:
-Fucking themselves up and alienating most of their playerbase
-Annoying realism randos on the internet

[abstract night]

Sorry I meant the lighthearted part

[wispy rampart]

2042

relatively lighthearted

[brittle wind]

Not really

[latent jasper]

2042 is light made bruh this game so goofy

[brittle wind]

2042's lore is extremely bleak

[abstract night]

I find that funny you say that cause 2042 degraded its design and atmospheric elements cause they introduced a mechanic that gimped several other features and design elements. Not because it was intentional

[eager spire]

I guarantee if they just decided to make a full realistic milsim game, most people would not like that, because most people do not like those kind of games. They are a niche for a reason.

[latent jasper]

my controllers finna experience terminal velocity

[abstract night]

It was because they literally could not focus as much on fidelity

[brittle wind]

2042's maps are very silent besides gunshots and round end/begin music

That's why people say it's not immersive

[wispy rampart]

I know, but the gameplay is intended to simply be an arcadey shooter, with less emphasis on horrors of war.

[eager spire]

Because games about the horrors of war can be interesting, but it's harder to take that shit seriously when it's multiplayer.

[brittle wind]

Compare that to BFV and BF1 maps, you can hear fire, gunshots etc. even in empty maps, sound design plays a huge role

[eager spire]

Plus doing multiplayer limits what you can do with portrayal via mechanics if you wanna keep the game active and somewhat fun

[abstract night]

• clone wars

[brittle wind]

Oh yeah lol

[eager spire]

You think i give a fuck about the horrors of war when playing BF1? No, i'm playing Antonymph by Vylet Pony in the background while trying to get a decent K/D with the Lebel, I don't give a shit.

[wispy rampart]

I'm a sound designer, trust me I know. That's part of the design decision, to have a cleaner and more recognizable soundscape to make it easier to hear threats, or to really exaggerate everything to provide the feelings of horror. The latter works better in BF1, the former works better in 2042. Though I still have opinions on how it could have been improved, as many people do.

[brittle wind]

Clone wars wouldn't be bad if more operators looked like zain or blasco tbh, but most of them don't look like soldiers

[abstract night]

Footsteps weren’t exactly difficult to hear pre 2042

[wispy rampart]

I agree, that's something I've noticed too

[next onyx]

Bf5 they were big there too

[wispy rampart]

vehicles also were weird in 2042

[next onyx]

Vivid reminder they buffed footsteps at one point and I sounded like people were in the room next to you.

[abstract night]

BF1 definitely focused more on set pieces, voice acting, map and sound design for that immersive feeling but a game was also still there

[next onyx]

When they would be much further away

[eager spire]

A worse game than the ones that came before it, regardless.

because the mechanics that were changed for the sake of being immersive were dumb, slow, and stupid.

[abstract night]

BF4 wasn’t much faster unless we’re talking about that zoo zoo stuff

[eager spire]

BF4 has airstrafing and being able to slide on the floor is not a zouzou.

[abstract night]

They definitely gimped sliding but that’s why as I said earlier I think BF can work fine avoiding it entirely. It’s just annoying

Like I agree that the BF1 slide is functionally useless for gunfights but meh

[eager spire]

it's functionally useless in general

you get stuck on the ground with it constantly.

[abstract night]

I don’t think you should be able to slide on the floor, I can’t comment on air strafing I don’t really know how that works

[brittle wind]

You need offensive movement options otherwise it turns into a game of camping

MW19 is best example of that

[abstract night]

I use it for getting into cover

[abstract night]

MW19 was decently fast, it’s just the map design and footsteps in that game that made it campy

[brittle wind]

It went from camper's sweet dream to movement god game once people figured out they can slide cancel

[eager spire]

I just run up into cover, it's more reliable, i get there a bit faster, and i don't deal with the issue of being stuck in the floor not able to aim my gun properly

[eager spire]

it is really not that hard, you just move your mouse mid-air while holding forward and you change directions mid-air.

[severe hill]

I just dodge and weeve

[abstract night]

I mean idk, I’d have to see a video about its readability but it doesn’t sound like it’s that awful. Probably not intentional though and I dunno if it’s even commonly used by players

[eager spire]

it is definitely commonly used by players who still play BF4.

[abstract night]

That’s why I say BF1 and 4 play pretty similarly gameplay wise, so when people poop on BF1 gameplay for anything but gas nades, behemoths and horses but love BF4 I’m a bit confused

[eager spire]

it's probably not intentional, but it's fine. it's fun.

much like the ability to slide on the floor that BF4 has.

It is also not intentional. But it's fun, and it's not like it requires that much effort to use.

[eager spire]

Okay but do you actually look at why people like BF4 over BF1? There are significant reasons for why that's the case.

[severe hill]

Bf3 is better

[eager spire]

old as fuck.

[abstract night]

I suppose it depends on who you ask because I understand why movement players like it more

[severe hill]

Less clunky and exploitable

[eager spire]

15hz servers.

[next onyx]

Bf4's literal busted movement options yeah no. I like varying degrees of movement but it's one of the more annoying ones.

[brittle wind]

BF3 is clunky though

[eager spire]

"less clunky"

be so fucking for real dude

[severe hill]

But not ass clunky as bf4

[brittle wind]

Yeah

They should bring back reactive armor

[eager spire]

BF4 isn't clunky, the fuck are you talking about

[brittle wind]

For tanks

[abstract night]

“Movement tech” is a mechanical arms race that is killing casual play and pushing players away from franchises who don’t ‘compete’ with someone flying across their screen

[severe hill]

That's why ranked existed to separate the unemployed

[next onyx]

I like fun movement but I get really annoyed when shit like adad spam exists.

[brittle wind]

You can ctrl+ad+ctrl+ad in BF4, you can't in BF1, BF1 is generally slower honestly

[next onyx]

Oh yeah bf1 and 5 soldiers are literally the slowest in the franchise.

Yet bf5 has amazing pacing.

[eager spire]

and worse gunplay

[next onyx]

Quit being a downer.

[brittle wind]

BFV has best gunplay

In the series

[next onyx]

Ehhh it's ok

[brittle wind]

Spread to recoil is better than spread imo

[next onyx]

I would prefer a system where recoil would increase the longer you fired your gun.

[eager spire]

I am now reminded of why i have you blocked

[abstract night]

I don’t necessarily understand the BFV gunplay hate besides for weird inconsistencies like SMGs with no recoil that you can run around and laser people with while there’s LMGs that you cannot use without being proned

Aka asking to get headshotted

[eager spire]

man you'd hate quake.

[abstract night]

I’ve never played quake but I have heard of it and yes you are correct

[eager spire]

or actually just arena shooters in general

[next onyx]

Quake is radically different.

[next onyx]

It's more round there being no spread encouraging mag dumps without thought.

Random recoil trying to come in and reduce that by a tiny bit which resulted in annoying more people.

[abstract night]

Oh right it was because you couldn’t actually control recoil right

[next onyx]

Well. No spread properly affecting guns to the point where you need to reset.

[eager spire]

yeah

[next onyx]

It was 95% control and 5% random.

It affected guns worse out the longer out you used them.

I think you could definitely limit guns range in a way like that but not like that.

If that makes sense.

[eager spire]

kind of like how the previous BF games did that

by having spread

it's like this was a good idea or something.

[next onyx]

I think you could definitely limit guns range in a way like that but not like that.

[abstract night]

MW19 caused a lot of people to hate spread but it was pretty good

[brittle wind]

Spread is annoying

[next onyx]

They could add more recoil the longer you fire.

[brittle wind]

That's why I prefer spread to recoil conversion