battlefield-2042

[worthy schooner]

i fucking suck at this game :/

[bronze basalt]

sorry for that bro.

[worthy schooner]

i got some hella peak moments tho

i was running base sniper and sundance

two dudes were coming up through the hallway and i was about to peek

i see bro and headshot him

and then headshot the other guy

[bronze basalt]

ow

[worthy schooner]

and then i thought i was good until i got executed by the third guy flanking 😭

[bronze basalt]

haha damn, i know how was felt

[worthy schooner]

8 kills / assists that round

27 deaths

maybe more

[bronze basalt]

Yo but in my case a cant found my bro in other platform, cuz him are playing in xbox and other homie and i we´re playing on steam, but we cant found him

[bronze basalt]

Maybe a little more

[worthy schooner]

do you have cross play enabled

i think that might fix it

[bronze basalt]

Yeah, we all have that enabled

but we can´t found him

idk why

[rocky gust]

try check the list again, and check for EA friends list

he might be there

for me at least, all the console friends are located in that section

[bronze basalt]

we already checked it but we didn´t find it, we´ve been trying for 3 hours haha.

whether it´s EA friends or platform quest

[vital quail]

If they are last gen, they are separated from current gen and pc

[bronze basalt]

Really?

[vital quail]

Yes

[cloud fox]

hellow looking for a group to play with or at least 1 more, anyone game?

[fringe eagle]

LF 3 BF Players 2042

[cloud fox]

im down

[fringe eagle]

https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/909508209381892107

LF 2 BF Players 2042

[mighty holly]

I got more but then again I do got a playlist

[kindred flint]

lore accurate

[frozen loom]

I should figure out the best sniper rifle configuration to get the best bullet velocity. That's the weak point of them, imo.

[mighty holly]

should definitely be in the next bf ww2 game

[royal trail]

angra the kamikaze lad

classic

[frozen loom]

The M1 garand is kind of bad.

Hipfireable though.

And has a nice empty clip sound.

[eager spire]

it's a BF portal gun, it's not surprising that it's kind of bad.

[frozen loom]

It is satisfying to kill with, but hard to use.

Hard to kill with too.

[vital quail]

Yeah the svk is still superior in every way possible

[frozen loom]

I unlocked all the stuff for the M1 garand and DFR Strike. Time to do AK 5C.

[robust vapor]

Slow equi

[frozen loom]

https://tenor.com/view/final-flash-gif-20054492

[rocky gust]

lol the recoil is bugged

it feels really bad rn

only merit is the 1 hit headshot

[frozen loom]

Yeah, I noticed that.

The AK 5C would feel better if it had a larger mag.

[rocky gust]

eh, i used subsonic and flank

so i don't usually end up running out middle of gunfight

wouldn't mind extra 5 rounds though

[frozen loom]

I always feel like I'm 2 bullets short of a kill.

[hollow raven]

use ammo that fires fast

i had to

[rocky gust]

at that point id just use an m5 or rm68

[hollow raven]

wat the hell does your name mean

lol

[rocky gust]

FiveMenK_issing

[eager spire]

i mean, do they have to spell it out for you

[hollow raven]

i asked its meaning

[eager spire]

it explains itself.

[rocky gust]

five men kissing

[hollow raven]

i am starting to think that i should not chat with strangers on here LOL

already met 2 weirdos

[vital quail]

I don't think anyone here will complain

[hollow raven]

me either lol

my subject content would not interest "them"

[vital quail]

Ok

[eager spire]

ok

[hollow raven]

ok

[eager spire]

so how've you been

[vital quail]

I've been wonderful

[eager spire]

That's good.

[rocky gust]

just avoid the redditors

like the ones that like 128 player modes and the ones that says killing enemies isn't ptfo

[frozen loom]

Finished unlocking all the newer weapon attachments.

[arctic grove]

bought the game on PC and PS5

somehow game graphically looks better on PS5

why?

[frozen loom]

I didnt unlock everything for the SCZ-3. Oops.

[naive ember]

Everything looks better on PS5

Good morning

[robust vapor]

no more garand

[arctic grove]

Good morning

[arctic grove]

got 4080 with 7900x3d everything maxed but it's doesn't look the way it looks on PS5

[arctic grove]

morning kitten

also it somehow runs smoother

even the motion blur looks good too

[eager spire]

Implying motion blur looks good at all

[robust vapor]

@untold flower W gunner af

[stoic aspen]

thats a whole lotta red

[robust vapor]

gotta play with all weapons available to me

[stoic aspen]

true also, iyo what do you think is the best lmg and the setup for it for small map & 64 conquest

[robust vapor]

M60 Avancys

[short radish]

Agreed

[rocky gust]

avancys tac comp, lwg= goat

[robust vapor]

RPK underrated

M60 underrated

👀

[mental delta]

Yes

I've tried playing again those last days and M60 is crazy good

Especially when using bipod lol

[stoic aspen]

🤔 interesting

[robust vapor]

meanwhile me:

[hollow raven]

haha i see u best squad

[ripe basin]

i dont understand. The game's auto settings set my graphics at high

and im lagging as hell

when i turned it down to low i still lagged

[chrome radish]

pc specs?

[ripe basin]

amd radeon vega 64
intel i5 9th gen
16gb ddr4

[robust vapor]

this game is CPU based

you need a stronger CPU

[ripe basin]

i see

well im upgrading soon anyway

[robust vapor]

i7-12700 series is good enough tbh

12th gen

13th gen heard there's some issues

[ripe basin]

13th gen had issues since the thing that holds the cpu in the socket

the metal

melted

because of high temperatures

its fixed now though

[next onyx]

Oh yeah if you're gonna get intel I cannot recommend you get it.

Get a 7800x3d and you're set.

[real gyro]

is that why my pc's running it so well

[remote kiln]

vega 64?

[real gyro]

my pc runs pretty mild on other games, but bf42 seems to be running pretty smooth

[remote kiln]

no that dude needs a new GPU lol

probably both anyways but that is horrid

[ripe basin]

yes thats why im upgrading soon

i built this pc when the vega 64 came out

didnt do anything to it since then

[remote kiln]

yeah figures your GPU doesn't even have driver support anymore, going to need a new one

[ripe basin]

im pretty sure it does

i still get updates

every few months

[remote kiln]

vega 64 is discontinued

your adrenaline version doesn't mean your card is supported

[ripe basin]

oh so thats why it says unsupported OP

[remote kiln]

yes

[ripe basin]

i thought something was wrong with my actual OP

well the last update then was in februrary

[remote kiln]

your cards just ancient and probably will stop working altogether with new games soon enough

[ripe dagger]

How can i play as a Fighter Jet or a Tank? (Im new to this Game)

[ripe basin]

you right click on ur spawn when ur ingame

and then a menu will come up

[ripe basin]

I play R6 and its doing fine, so I'm doing fine

just kinda sad that i cant play this anymore

[remote kiln]

siege is a decade old game lol

it's not new

[ripe basin]

I know it is

as long as i can play siege

I'm happy

[remote kiln]

assuming it keeps getting updated that won't be forever

[ripe basin]

its still making them a lot of money

so i think there will be a year 10

[remote kiln]

vega doesn't support dx12 ultimate and if siege continues getting support it's inevitable that older APIs are removed for that

[ripe basin]

imagine this then

my other gpu is a nvidia mx150

[remote kiln]

I feel bad for you

[ripe basin]

with i5 8250U

yes

it can barely open google

[ripe dagger]

I select but still spawn on foot?

[ripe basin]

I'll send a video in a sec

[rocky gust]

just had an amazing 4 man mackay squadplay

great way to end the day before sleepge

[ripe basin]

i gave up on video

On the spawn screen --> Hover over the Team's Icon (Russia, US) --> right click on the RU / US and then the spawn menu comes up

look for avaliable vehicles

and click on them with left click

[ripe dagger]

Thanks

[untold flower]

[robust vapor]

[dreamy ridge]

How do i choose older weapons in the game? Like, i mean BF3, BFBC2 Or BF1942

[worthy schooner]

i think you have to unlock them first

or pick them up from someone who dropped them

[dreamy ridge]

I have been unlocked all the weapons

[worthy schooner]

oh then click on the weapon no?

you should be able to freely select it

[dreamy ridge]

I cant choose them in the game

There are no button "era"

[patent pivot]

Weird

[boreal quail]

when will battle pass

[spare quest]

Never

[boreal quail]

whyy

[spare quest]

No more seasons

[boreal quail]

really

[spare quest]

[boreal quail]

okey thank you

[naive ember]

[dreamy ridge]

I am on PS4

Is this fake or real about season 7 will be last season for BF2042?

[acoustic seal]

yes, support ended months ago

[dreamy ridge]

:(

[chrome radish]

are there active players on 2042?

[dreamy ridge]

yup

[chrome radish]

nice

[mental delta]

Just BATTLEFIELD

Even 2048

Who reported that ?

[quiet shell]

Tom Henderson

[mighty holly]

Kek

[mental delta]

I report you for reporting Tom Henderson reportedingly giving infos on BF6

[arctic grove]

everytime i want to start a game i end up squad leader and nobody join its impossible to start a game , am i the only one?

[slate loom]

I played BF1, BFV And BF2042
And i can proudly say that BF2042 is fuck**ing ass

the performance, the audio, the UI and even the MAPS are terrible!

I have around 250 hours on BF2042 And i finally uninstalled! greates decision of my recent life

[quiet shell]

I personally like the map Orbital

[arctic grove]

any body able to help with battlefield 5?i need two more trophies to get the platinum

[frozen loom]

Check #battlefield-legacy-titles and #lfg-playstation.

This channel is only for BF2042.

[frozen loom]

Same. I haven't seen that map in forever. I am forever stuck on Manifest, Exposure, and Redacted.

[acoustic seal]

orbital is the essential 2042 map, like 2-3 playable areas connected by vast swaths of Fucking Nothing

and too much verticality in the designated play spaces

[quiet shell]

I felt it's a map best optimized for 2042's best vision. Which was further improved by it's rework by cutting down the open ground and making more routes.

[acoustic seal]

they did not cut it down nearly enough to make a playable map, the 300m run from the first breakthrough sector to the second is ridiculous

[frozen loom]

For conquest, it's a nice map.

[lofty spindle]

is there any assualt rifle that is objectivly the best or should i just run what feels good?

[acoustic seal]

m5/scar/vhx/acw-r are all pretty good, m416/m16/aek are meh, everything i forgot is either hard to use or some flavor of bad

[lofty spindle]

Alright appreciate it, thanks

[ivory canopy]

I have had a lot of problems with M416 unless I use irons

Same thing with AC9 (but that's an SMG)

If you ask me, the AM40 with regular ammo is excellent

[lofty spindle]

just bought the game, any tips or guides i should check out before i play?

[ivory canopy]

TTK is really low on it, and it's surprisingly accurate to longer ranges

[ivory canopy]

Find a specialist you're good with

Casper and Falck are really good beginners' specialists

[lofty spindle]

alright thanks man, do i have all specialist from teh beginning or do i need to unlock some?

[ivory canopy]

iirc there are a couple you're locked out of

Two of them are rank-based lockouts

[lofty spindle]

oh okay

[sullen lily]

Why is the game so dead

[acoustic seal]

it launched bad and lost all its players in the first 3 months, and then largely stayed bad due to gameplay design even after some bugs were fixed

the vast majority of the peple still playing are in EU as it has been with previous battlefield games

[sullen lily]

No wonder NA servers are empty

[spare quest]

skill issue

[limpid ether]

why does my game keep crashing

it gets to loading screen

and then it crashes

why?

no error nothing

just turns off

[void gorge]

I think the Developers Should nerf That tank called Thor Because One shot from that tank against your vehicle Depending on the vehicle you're in If it's a transport vehicle It's usually certain death But if it's a vehicle that has heavy armor Then it practically takes away all the life And I also say that They should nerf For the fact that Liz's missile was nerfed

[vital quail]

Not gonna happen

[vocal tusk]

Wait until he realizes APS also doesn't work against the TOR tank.

[kindred flint]

you mean thor tank

[pseudo belfry]

Casper and Falck are just good in general.

[spare quest]

casper used to be good until they took his emp

[pseudo belfry]

Casper had an EMP?

[spare quest]

yes

his drone

[pseudo belfry]

Ah

[vital quail]

Casper and good should never belong together in a sentence

[kindred flint]

wtf.....one of those dumb historical matches, but a s999 xbox player killed me

[limpid ether]

guy

s

can someone please help me

my battlefield 2042 it just starts and when its loading it just crashes and idk what to do

[spare quest]

i would look up your problem on the 2042 subreddit

its a better place to find fixes than ea support

[limpid ether]

i looked everywhere

it literallyy just doesnt work

i tried everything

[still vault]

"everything"

[limpid ether]

most of it

idk what i havent tried

[spare quest]

name everything you tried so far

[limpid ether]

everything what google and reddit said

[spare quest]

[limpid ether]

i dont remember everything lol

but i reinstalled the game

i updated the anticheat through the app if yk what i mean

[still vault]

I've answered a ton of threads with technical issues. 19/20 of people saying they've tried "everything" they have barely touched the surface.

tried rebooting the computer?

[limpid ether]

i did that

like 5x already

i just wanna play

[still vault]

spec nicely above minimum specs?

[limpid ether]

i have a 4060

i dont think thats a issue

[still vault]

That's 1 piece of hardware sure

[limpid ether]

i5 12th gen

16gb ddr4 3200mhz

[still vault]

Used DDU to cleanly reinstall gfx driver?

[limpid ether]

i updated drivers

[spare quest]

but did you do a clean install

[kindred flint]

i fucking hate roof top campers in hourglass losing the game in the last minute because we cant capture shit is just the best

[limpid ether]

no

i doubt that would help tho

[vestal kraken]

Try loading a portal game and see if that loads, then exit and do a regular join match.

[kindred flint]

also fuck the ram, annoying little shits on that map that never seem to die unless you get lucky with mines

[still vault]

Helped me a bunch of times when games have trouble loading. Nvidia drivers do weird things over time.

[limpid ether]

it loads till the blue loading thing

ane turns off

[vestal kraken]

Maybe something with the preload graphics cache?

This used to happen to me on a fresh install, there's is a fix, just can't remember exactly what it was...

[limpid ether]

maybe ill finish all bfs before 2042

[somber robin]

hey yall i was wondering where i can go to look for some technical advice
im getting the corrupted save issue and i want to clear the problem file from my EA cloud but i cant find any information online on how to do that is there like a support thread that i can find or something?

[void gorge]

Exactly And If there was a decrease in the damage that this tank causes then the developers could compensate for this by increasing the physics speed When you are going to change direction with this tank because it is slow Which is even annoying

[somber robin]

the only advice i can find is that the cloud is automated and i was just wondering is there like a person at EA i can contact or something

cause i hate the constant booting from 2042

any help is much appreciated

[void gorge]

Have you tried repairing the game from the store you downloaded it from? Have you tried checking if your drivers are up to date? Or if you play on the console See if the system is up to date Not just the game? Because there are a number of factors why problems can happen And if it still doesn't resolve it Then you can go to the EA website And scroll down to help And select The game and search for the option to talk to an attendant via live chat

[merry ocean]

how can i improve flying a plane because its hard

because in most games

all u gotta do is turn right

but in battlefield u roll

so its kinda hard

and i want to adjust so can anyone help me?

[jovial carbon]

yo anybody wanna play 2042 with me?

[vestal kraken]

Just change the key mapping?

[merry ocean]

no like

turning right and left

you have to roll for that

and i am not used to it

[somber robin]

update i have reinstalled 2042 and the corrupted save file issue persists

please someone help me i need to figure this out

and now its crashing whenever i join a game

[arctic stump]

What’s better RM68 or bsvm?

[kindred flint]

2 different things

overall id say rm is better

[vital quail]

Ultimately comes down to user skill

[kindred flint]

i have to be close the end of my suffering using this strife

but god these teammates make it difficult

[orchid tusk]

strife is good i heard

[kindred flint]

absolute lie and slander

[kindred flint]

apparently every lobby i join today i get a fluctuating ping ..really annoying trying to deal with that

[arctic grove]

i cant even play waiting time is over 15 minutes

[void gorge]

The physics of 2042 are so impressive that when a tree falls in front of you you can drag it with your soldier's body

[latent jasper]

they gotta nerf the wildcat eventually

i hit this dude w all 5 rockets from an m5

and he js walks it off

oh and an at grenade

i have to literally deweld his vehicle with a torch

[orchid tusk]

gonna need to see that video

[orchid tusk]

see above ^

[pseudo belfry]

I am pretty bummed by the sound of the MCOM in Rush XL.

1. I can’t even hear it very well.
2. Its not the original MCOM alarm.

[unique grotto]

How many Black Friday sale sets are there gonna be

[kindred flint]

what the fuck haven team...over 5 minutes and no one can make any progress capturing a third base..yeeah no more time wasting in that match for me

[acoustic seal]

rush xl is just 128 tdm with extra steps, don't worry about it

if you want to play rush just wait until actual rush gets rotated back in

[late creek]

so no more hardcore games? rip

[gloomy arrow]

any good changes?

[acoustic seal]

you can shoot through dozer shield with ap, if you happen to be using ap for some reason

hc getting removed is a good change too

[gloomy arrow]

Ah anything else?

[vital quail]

When did you play last

[pastel carbon]

do people just play portal servers for fun? it doesnt give any progression even if it says full xp

[hard jay]

Sup noobs

[hollow raven]

Jesus is white. Prove me wrong.

[frozen loom]

That SCZ SMG isn't so bad.

[hard jay]

Hes not

I mean i guess he is white but how white are you talking about

[vital quail]

Weird as hell

[frozen loom]

He's just trolling for attention. I don't know why you guys are getting baited.

[hollow raven]

Stupidity is in the air.

And I found one over there.

[frozen loom]

In about 2 years.

[hollow raven]

imo those trailers never reflect the actual gameplay

hardly

ok not at all

i was bein nice lol

those trailers are always terrible

bf2 trailers being the exception

[hollow raven]

ditto lol

i got a product key for 2042 with a SSD i purchased for a customer

[worthy schooner]

dude the 2042 trailer looked so cool though

and especially the rendezook scene

im kinda sad that the wingsuit isnt available to all characters though

[hard jay]

????

Im serious

[hard jay]

He's not white.

[frozen loom]

I mean Jigga.

[hard jay]

Oh

My bad

We had the conversation yesterday

Someone else said it which is weird

[hollow raven]

I will wait for your proof that he wasn't white.

take another day

[hard jay]

How white do you think he is

Show me an example

[hollow raven]

burden is on you fool.. u the one saying he isn't white..

[hard jay]

I mean arabs can be white

So i guess he's white

[hollow raven]

prove it or stfu

[hard jay]

I'll touch you

[hollow raven]

u wish

[hard jay]

I promise

[mighty holly]

[hard jay]

Sup

[mighty holly]

Howdy

[hard jay]

How're you vro

[mighty holly]

despair I’m just waiting for my shift to end

[hard jay]

I just came back home

Time to play some underground

[naive ember]

Redacted

[hard jay]

Whar

[light tide]

What’s with the 2042 Update?

[naive ember]

^

Fixed the lag?

[lofty spindle]

im having a hard time on redacted, any specialists that are recommended on maps like this?

[remote kiln]

zain/other assault generally are king for redacted

blasco's also very good

[lofty spindle]

dang i dont have either of em

[remote kiln]

best get grinding

[lofty spindle]

Guesss so

[chrome radish]

is the game worth buying in a long term

will the player base reduce?

[remote kiln]

almost inevitably yes, within a year, hard to say

[chrome radish]

damn

wht bout BFV?

[remote kiln]

the games been out for 3 years, just how things go

all the older battlefield games follow the same fate

[chrome radish]

ohh

will it still be playable tho

like atleast a few matches evry now and then

[remote kiln]

yeah they all will be

[chrome radish]

ahh icic

thats nice

coz i got it for around 3 bucks but dont know if i did the right thing buying it

[remote kiln]

it's $3.., literally less than a coffee

[chrome radish]

yeahh ive seen ppl say its not worht playing for fre

so idk

[vocal tusk]

2042 will age less gracefully, since it relies almost entirely on matchmaking for official modes.

[chrome radish]

yeah

[viscid fulcrum]

who wants to play 2042 right now?

[frozen loom]

I want to play, but solo.

[hollow raven]

the lag on rush xl yesterday was excellent

[naive ember]

Yesterday someone said in game chat that the lag is worse than tomorrow being Monday

[hollow raven]

it made the last mcom impossible to reach.. was good farmin

[chilly stag]

Hello! I wonder are there any battlefield giveaways since its on discount? absolutely adorable game, unfortunately i cant afford it im a student and theres no global price in my country

[hollow raven]

adorable!

[naive ember]

[ripe basin]

i dont like redacted

its small, and i know thats the point but i still dont like it because of that

[karmic egret]

E

[short radish]

Yea same

[untold flower]

mine so little

[robust vapor]

don't worry you getting there

trust d0k

[somber robin]

so im playing bf2042 and i keep dying to people flanking me and stuff is there like a basic tip on how to avoid that

cause it seems like the enemy is always behind me no matter what

like ill be trying to hold the under the bridge area on breakaway and there will be a guy

behind me on one of the cliffs ready to dump a mag into my head

ik part of it is my shit perception and skill issue but is there like an easy to remember way of checking for enemies

[hollow raven]

dont let them touch your butt

[somber robin]

that

doesnt help

[hollow raven]

sounds like that already happened

[naive ember]

[fickle wharf]

[chrome radish]

[hollow raven]

[thin vapor]

Yo guys I just bought Battlefield 2042 and I want some nice settings to rock it, mind if you help me with some ideas?

[hollow raven]

https://youtu.be/u6ctUOdkI90?si=AeW3EV_ppGmADLU_

BrokenMachine does a decent breakdown

[thin vapor]

Thank you!

[hollow raven]

no problemo

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-epic-embed-fail-funny-embed-fail-goose-goose-embed-fail-gif-25175587

[untold flower]

@robust vapor that last match bruh

[robust vapor]

[untold flower]

that guy bruh

he is either fxaa or atk heli but with aa missiles only

[robust vapor]

bro lost to an attack chopper with big body

[untold flower]

or nb

lmfao

[robust vapor]

imagine me in the nb

bro will report me

[untold flower]

[vocal tusk]

This is actually huge for community servers

https://x.com/oliverCAndersen/status/1863592416332111984?t=rb6cSFiIJNoonIVsCmJScg&s=19

Oliver Andersen (@oliverCAndersen) on X

In update 8.3 we're adding a new modifier to portal that will enable admins to opt-in for team switching on their server and by doing so, take over ownership of team balance. That means players on that server can swap team from the pause menu. I hope you will like that! #BF2042

Twitter · Dec 2, 2024, 2:33 PM

[remote kiln]

yeah very obviously testing for the next game

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, or some final QoL for this game. But it's essential to have it for next game, limited by time.

[chilly jacinth]

Hope they don't opt to add team switching to DICE servers in the next game

[vocal tusk]

They should, but limit it

Same as past games, either only allow 2 swaps per game, with a minimum of 180 seconds between swaps. And disallow swapping when tickets are at a certain threshold.

[robust vapor]

@untold flower

[untold flower]

the fact that he went all the way to the cliff just to try and fxaa us is so funny

i totally wont be able to see the big red icon when you fire the fxaa at me

[robust vapor]

Bro tryna lock in

And still lost

We took down his goofy aaah CAV camping the mcoms

[untold flower]

that was his wtf

[robust vapor]

Bro lost the game

[untold flower]

biggest crime is only firing aa missiles with his attack heli

and still lost

[robust vapor]

[somber robin]

shotguns are so fun

[chilly jacinth]

Don't the AA missiles do less damage?

[fickle wharf]

yeah

[frozen loom]

That's my go-to gadget.

[hasty ingot]

battlefield 4 to play

?

[royal swan]

Dozer is getting fucked

[frozen loom]

How?

[vital quail]

I really doubt people will now use AP ammo just for the rare chance they will see a dozer

[spare quest]

it was a dozer buff tbh

nobody uses ap ammo

[royal swan]

Well now we have a reason to

We have 3 slots for ammo

[vital quail]

Every dozer encounter is extremely close range and switching to AP is opening yourself up to getting rushed by a dozer

[royal swan]

And we mainly use one

[royal swan]

Skill issue. You run faster than dozer

[vital quail]

I mean dozer can still switch weapons when they see you reloading

[opaque gyro]

anyone else getting dizzy with CoD but totally fine with Battlefield?

[royal swan]

If a dozer is rushing you from a distance and you get killed by him that's all on you

[royal swan]

Bait him with the pistol then

Shoot the feet when he's running

Us a rocket to disable the shield and kill him there

[vital quail]

Like if i enter one of the halls on stranded and see a dozer in it, my first thought would never be to switch to ap ammo and unload all my ammo just to do 50% damage

[royal swan]

Your first thought is running then ap then wait. Or just run off to never engage with the guy ever

If you have rockets then it's a free kill

[vital quail]

I mean yeah, that's what I do lol. Using the example on stranded, it's easy to just run away and bait them into a much more open area where I could just let a teammate deal with it

[royal swan]

Hell put c5 on the path in front of you

[vital quail]

I just don't see dozer frequently enough to justify ap ammo currently. I only play conquest so it's probably different in breakthrough

[royal swan]

We have three slots. Who uses all of the slots

I just use 2

Like that third one is just a waste of space

[vital quail]

I mean as engineer I usually run out with the ak5c

[royal swan]

You should have the extended mag and the high power mag

[eager spire]

why buff the shield guy anyway.

[vocal tusk]

They nerfed them

[vital quail]

In the patch notes they also use the corridors on exposure as an example of when you meet dozer

Feel like redacted would make so much more sense lol

[eager spire]

how'd they nerf them, someone was saying it was a buff.

[vital quail]

They just said that because of how nobody uses ap ammo

[eager spire]

I'm assuming AP ammo will go through the shield now

[vital quail]

Yes, that is what the update is mostly about

[magic vector]

Question I can’t find ANYWHERE online:

How the hell do I unlock the Sundance operator?

I just wanna use the wingsuit man 😂

[eager spire]

3 years later and they're making this change.

[vital quail]

I feel like Sundance is a level unlock that is pretty low

[magic vector]

I can just find that through my progression chart?

[royal swan]

I honestly forgot specialist were level locked

[vital quail]

Looking up more stuff it seems like Sundance is the default unlock

[vital quail]

So you should already have access

[magic vector]

I checked my operators, I don’t have her

I’m like level 28

[vital quail]

Yeah it's just Mackey and Paik though

[magic vector]

huh

she shouldnt be locked since shes assault class right?

[spare quest]

bruh

[magic vector]

bro im so confused, the BF2042 wiki says shes unlocked by default 💀

i dont see her in my roster

[vital quail]

She's the left most specialist on the list of them

Should be unlocked

[magic vector]

ill take a look after work ig

thats wierd how ive never seen her

[vital quail]

I don't remember what happens when you play for the first time but from everything I've seen, it looks like it would be the default for assault

[magic vector]

cuz i have MacKay

where do i find specialists in the main home screen?

can someone give me a breadcrumbs trail to follow

[spare quest]

Collection

[magic vector]

^

[vital quail]

On main lobby screen go to classes > assault > left click the specialist (in this case you said Mackay) and the available options should come up

[magic vector]

kk thanks

[vestal kraken]

Ughh this conquest forever is still going...

[naive ember]

It's forever for a reason bud

[somber robin]

i love playing dozer

in shotguns we trust

the shield protects and the buckshot judges

[naive ember]

[rigid atlas]

people still say this game is trash. Im genuinely curious why it got better

[somber robin]

eh i dont like the spawm mechanics honestly

wanna spawn on an objective thats being attacked so you can immediately help out?

sorry your getting dropped into a group of enemies

i mean i get why they dont spawn you in directly on the flag

[pastel tree]

What do you guys think about weapons not being class restricted in 2042 compared to older titles

[somber robin]

but surely it wouldnt be hard to have a way to disable spawns if enemy players are nearby

i wanna drop into the action but i dont want to BE directly in it yknow

[somber robin]

why is this suprising

[naive ember]

Sounds like you get rekt a alot

Hope you never end up on my team

[acoustic mirage]

Dozer is easy to deal with

the amount of bunny hopping tricks to get around him

[naive ember]

[somber robin]

eh its a learning experience

cant blame me for learning can you

[mental delta]

Ok this game is fucking dead

I've finished a match, stayed in the same lobby as it was booting up another match, and as the server was waiting for more players I left because it was ficking Discarded map

10 times

10 FUCKING TIMES I tried to find another lobby by coming back to main menu

Guess what ?

It just sent me to same server 10 times in a row

Fuck that crap I'm waiting for next game

This one was crap at launch and apparently still doesn't deserve attention

Fuck it

[pastel tree]

To try and unwind from the bad match, what are your thoughts on 2042 classes not having weapon restrictions

[mental delta]

Complete bullshit tbh

It should have minimum gun restriction

But as game didn't have classes nor many guns at launch they couldn't

You can't set up gun restriction with 22 guns

[vocal tusk]

I prefer locked weapons. But I think for THIS game, they made the correct decision to keep them unlocked after having dont the class rework. (Because they likely knew they didnt have the capacity to both remake the class system and all of the weapons before having to move onto the next game)

[pastel tree]

Interesting

[vocal tusk]

Plus they advertised this game as having all weapons on all classes, so changing that would have caused some issues.

The biggest thing they needed to do was lock the gadgets, which they did.

[pastel tree]

Recon class had nice utility like soflam or insertion beacons, but I cannot snipe to save my life so I use other guns lol

[mental delta]

Yes it gun restriction had no sense with specialists and game didn't feature enough guns anyway

[vocal tusk]

Ive played a few Portal servers where they unlock gadgets to all classes, and it just reverts back to all players using zain or falck and rockets/C5 like pre class system remake

Its utter crap IMO. Was the worst idea that came from the launch of this game haha

[mental delta]

At least you didn't get Lis double rocket launchers like it was Fortnite double pump

[pastel tree]

Are insertion beacons in other battlefield games?

[vocal tusk]

Yes

Recon/sniper class usually has them.

[eager spire]

That is hilarious, I am only sad it took them 3 years to do this

[pastel tree]

So if I suck with snipers am I just screwed if I want to do things like use the beacon

Outside of 2042

[vocal tusk]

It looks to mainly make them situationally less tanky, and makes it less easy to have the shield as an instant "I win" in gunfights when the Dozer player finds themselves outmatched

Recon in other games get other weapons outside of bolt action rifles. For example in BF4, you can use DMRs, Carbines and Shotguns also

I hope next game goes back to that system. Locked weapons to classes. but a decent selection of carbines, rifles and shotguns as all class weapons.

[pastel tree]

Interesting

[pastel tree]

Is ap ammo worth using nowadays?

[vital quail]

No lol

[vocal tusk]

Not really TBH. I dont see these changes doing anything for its use either.

[pastel tree]

Dang

[vocal tusk]

the main change I see happening is some players adding an AP underbarrel to a few weapons, in the event they come across a Dozer.

[pastel tree]

Is the ap grenade launcher useless on vehicles

[vocal tusk]

If the AP nade impact adds a similar flinch to Dozers shield as a rocket launcher, that will be a pretty decent counter.

[vital quail]

No the AP grenade launcher is pretty useful

It's like 20ish damage

[vocal tusk]

AP launcher is good on vehicles, the issue with it ATM is you only get 1 round. It used to be 3, but they nerfed it for some stupid reason at the same time as nerfing the amount of HE nades you could carry.

[pastel tree]

Ooh good to know thank you

[vital quail]

Ap gets 2 i think...

[pastel tree]

Anyone know what other AR get ap ammo besides ak24?

[vital quail]

Ammo or grenade launcher?

[vocal tusk]

Ive always believed they accidentally nerfed the AP rounds...cos they did the same for smokes, but reverted that change. I think just not enough players use the AP launher for it to be widely reported, complained about...and as a result cared about in the order of things needing fixing/changing

[pastel tree]

Ammo, sorry. Or either or tbh

[vocal tusk]

All of them get AP rounds AFAIK...maybe some of the portal era weapons didnt get it tho

[vital quail]

I think almost every AR has AP ammo. The scar and ak5c have the AP underbarrel

[vocal tusk]

Actually no, quite a few of them dont have AP rounds haha

[pastel tree]

Yeah that's why I asked lol, hard to see if not in game since the wiki isn't filled out

I'm gonna have to try ap rounds more and see how it goes

[vocal tusk]

These dont have it:

• AM40
• AC-42
• RM-68
• GEW-46
• VHX
• m16A3
• ACW-R
• M416
• MTAR
• AEK-971

AP ammo is mostly useful on LMGs tho TBH.

[vital quail]

I mean they are worse than standard in every situation

AP has reduced ammo pool and same reload time as HP and usually lower damage/range than standard

[vocal tusk]

Well they do a lot o damage to tanks, especially the high RPM LMGs like the PKP

[vital quail]

For ARs at least

[vocal tusk]

If they wanted to make AP actually used, they would give them similar characteristics to standard ammo, but keep the reduced mag/belt ammo counts

PKP 100 round mag does 36 damage to heavy armor. A bit higher than an RPG

[eager spire]

honestly i donno why AP is an ammo option and not a standard thing

like, everyone that's fighting is a major military power. They're all gonna have armor.

nobody's going for fucking limb shots.

[vital quail]

Even with a high rate of fire, I don't see someone being able to get 100 rounds off before being shot by the vehicle or someone else tbh

[vocal tusk]

Most body armor doesnt stop even the most common weapon calibres (Like 5.56 and armor definitely wont stop 7.62)

And soldiers generally dont wear body armor anywhere other than the chest. Even then, most body armor is there to stop shrapnel, not bullets

[vital quail]

Getting a squad of 3/4 people with it though would be funny to watch a tank be destroyed in like 8 seconds

[vocal tusk]

in combination with other gadgets and weapons is count be good solo. Liek drop a boris turret, fire an RPG and start blasting

To the rear of a tank, all 100 rounds do 45 damage, and disable the vehicle

[vital quail]

There's at least one player I know that would die to someone doing this

Then they would come to this server and type an essay saying how they think it's overpowered and should be nerfed

[vocal tusk]

28 damage to the front

So a single RPG and 100 rounds to the rear of a tank would do 89 damage

[eager spire]

I feel like actually doing that in a match would be impossible

like eventually the tank player is gonna notice and blow the guy shooting him to pieces. Or run 'em over.

[vocal tusk]

It all depends. Cos normally, tanks have more to worry about than just 1 players. ITs more about the rounds being effective as part of a whole. Cos sure youre probably not gonna get 100 rounds off, but even 25 and youre going 11 damage

[somber robin]

hm so whats some actually good assualt operatives

i like dozer but tbh he is kinda limited outside of close quarters

[vocal tusk]

Zain

[somber robin]

okay?

is sundance any fun

i think she could be good on very vertical maps

[vocal tusk]

The XM is very strong when you learn how and when to use it, plus regenning health on every kill is really usefull when fighting at any range

[somber robin]

i ug dont have him unlocked

im like

a few hours in and i was wondering if theres any way i can optomise my play a little

tbf tho i like dozer+shotgun

[vocal tusk]

Sundance is fine, they are mostly a gimmick character, but can be useful on maps with long distances and verticality

[vital quail]

That's why I alluded to this one person who we all know

[eager spire]

oh yeah

he'd probably die to that

[vocal tusk]

Does this person like to TeamKill?

[vital quail]

Yes

[vital quail]

.

Reminds me of something about a tank yesterday

[eager spire]

Try playing Mackay.

[vital quail]

Thinking more about the AP ammo changes, it doesn't even effect the lmgs

[hard jay]

Sup noobs

[vital quail]

AP ammo on ARs only has 21 shots as well with 10% per bullet is ~40 damage with every shot hitting

[vocal tusk]

Well AP ammo currently does nothing to Dozer. So it does affect them

[vital quail]

Guess I'll play some dozer and see if anything changes

[vocal tusk]

But in the grand scheme of things, an AR and definitely an LMG isnt going to have time to reload a mag/belt on seeing dozer.

[somber robin]

idk i dont like his weak ass grapple

actually im just spoiled

played too much DRG

[eager spire]

yeah, but he also moves really quickly while ADS.

[somber robin]

aight fair

i like getting up close and personal so mackays toolkit does look like a good alternative

[pastel tree]

It'll do 40 damage to vehicles?

[vital quail]

No it will do 40 damage to dozer

Through his shield

[pastel tree]

Ohh

[eager spire]

honestly if they're not gonna remove the shield, making it so you can shoot through it is at least funny.

[rocky gust]

Shes really good on chokepointy maps as well

[pastel tree]

I rarely see enough dozer where it's a problem, is he a problem lol

[rocky gust]

The scatter nades have a cd of 8-9 sec iirc and you can spam that shit

Dozers become a problem when your teammates dont know how to deal with it

[eager spire]

i mean it's a character with a riot shield. it's annoying at least.

[rocky gust]

Which is 99 percent of the scenario

[eager spire]

it shouldn't be in any decent game.

[rocky gust]

Many of them end up running to you hoping for a easy kill

So i just remove their shin

Or you can bait them in for a bash, then slide hop to the side and blast them

[eager spire]

Shields in a shooter like this are basically advertising that you don't know how to play the game and you don't care to learn, so you're just going to be obnoxious.

[rocky gust]

I had this one game where 4 dozers were running at me in a straight line

[pastel tree]

That just sounds hilarious

[eager spire]

"I am literally only here to be annoying" type beat.

[rocky gust]

Yeah it was funny

Since rhey ran their feet were exposed

So i just went prone and turned them into criplles

[pastel tree]

I disagree with that but I can see why it annoys people

[rocky gust]

Whenever i pick dozer

I just go in front of the door and tbag

[peak ferry]

I want help solving the mystery of the French map in Battlefield One

[rocky gust]

Verdun?

[eager spire]

I mean, I do not see why you would pick the guy with the shield when you could pick another character and do much better if you can actually play the game. Why would you play the shield guy if you can play the game.

[pastel tree]

Doesn't that expose you to getting leg shotted

[rocky gust]

Yeah but when i tbag they get disoriented or something

They dont even hit the shield

Avg bf2042 player

[peak ferry]

I want help solving the mystery of the French map in Battlefield One

[rocky gust]

I almost always carry c5 as assault so

[pastel tree]

Did you want to discuss it? Tldr reason is team or objective play, something that it has seen applications for besides simply being annoying. Similar deal (and similar annoying problems) with cod

[rocky gust]

C5 makes quick work too

[pastel tree]

Lol nice

[eager spire]

I would argue there's more significant teamplay/objective play options that you could be utilizing if you can actually play the game.

The shield alone does not provide much in terms of team play or objective play.

[pastel tree]

And you are welcome to argue that, I'm not going to change your opinion

I leveled that yeah it's disruptive af

[eager spire]

You did ask if I wanted to discuss it, I am discussing it.

[pastel tree]

Kk

[somber robin]

fair ig uess

[pastel tree]

That is a bit arbitrary to claim playing one way is 'actually playing the game'

There's more to it than simply being a shield. The engineer guy with the mounted mini gun also comes to mind with a similar design

[eager spire]

I'm not claiming one way is "actually playing the game". I am claiming that there are multiple ways to play the game, and that the shield indicates a desire to not be useful in any single way even slightly.

I am saying playing Dozer is not actually playing the game.

[rocky gust]

Ive never perceived dozer as a skillful player choice

90 percent are trollera

[vocal tusk]

Shield is useful for elevator and corridor pushes.

[pastel tree]

I'm not surprised lmao

[rocky gust]

And will tbag after shield bashing

Just imagine if it worked like cod

And it blocked shots from the back

THEN it would have been an issue

Its just an annoyance at 2042

Not really an issue

[eager spire]

Being good at the game and shooting enemies is useful for that too. Scale is generally large enough on most maps that pushes like that are relatively uncommon anyway.

[rocky gust]

The reduced explosive dmg trait needs a nerf though

As someone who has used it

Holy fuck

Im like immune to explosives

[pastel tree]

Then it gets into anecdotal territory of if I point out games where the shield has been used or coordinated with players / a squad productively. Whether or not that's the norm and instead people use it to troll is a different matter

[vocal tusk]

It's situationally useful, but so are lots of gadgets.

[rocky gust]

I’ve met one good dozer squas

[vocal tusk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rocky gust]

And it was enders and his friends

[pastel tree]

Yeah that was awful idk what they were thinking, the new mw1 and 2 had this issue as well

[rocky gust]

That is how dozer is meant to be played

[pastel tree]

Pretty much my thoughts

[rocky gust]

To draw fire, and push tight objectives

Imo

The design intention was good;the execution wasn’t

[pastel tree]

Aren't there multiple design problems with 2042 allegedly

[rocky gust]

Oh yeah i mean dice is a

Very small indie game dev company

[vocal tusk]

Dozer is good for rush. Pop smokes, push forward and use shield. Arm objective then defend for your life. Having explosive damage defence also helps for this.

[rocky gust]

So they have small issues

[pastel tree]

Ikr

[rocky gust]

Like recoil bugs, broken input, input lag

Very minor issues

[pastel tree]

Pretty much one of the main uses I see, besides cqc indoor pushes

[eager spire]

I would argue most gadgets in the game are more consistently useful than the guy with a riot shield. It's a consequence of the scale of the game. Riot shields work in small maps like SWAT or RoN or R6S, but they don't work on 2042 scale maps that are mostly wide open fields or buildings with open design plans and 64-128 players on them.

The shield is a participation trophy, it's there so you can waste a little bit of someone's time by existing near them. It's not useful for anything else.

[pastel tree]

Whether or not one gadget is more useful than another doesn't inherently mean the guy running the less effective gadget is only there to 'not be useful in any single way'

[eager spire]

It's advertising that you're not willing to play the game and you're not even gonna try to shoot the enemies.

[rocky gust]

One of my biggest gripes in terms of visual is

Every fucking reload looks the same

Its so boring

[pastel tree]

Also they tap the magazines twice

Lol

[rocky gust]

I dont want like my guy juggling his gun or anything but

They could have made different animations

Also every time i reload my gew45

[vocal tusk]

Not really. Stinger, javelin, sraw, TGM, mines, and so on are largely useless a lot of the time. Dozer and their shield can be useful in any situation where another player is involved.

I dont think it's good either, it's just as situationally useful as many other gadgets.

[rocky gust]

The guns grip freaks out

Idk if its only with lwg or certain ammo

But my lwg grip freaks out everytime i reload gew46

[pastel tree]

That and the original point was 'I disagree that people who use the shield are not playing the game', not about its effectiveness

[rocky gust]

I mean heres the thing right

Just

[pastel tree]

If you still can't see why after what bsod and I pointed out then that's fine

[acoustic seal]

checking under the lmg feed tray just to make sure the elves didn't slip a live bomb under there

[eager spire]

I mean they basically aren't, they're just walking around hoping people forget they can shoot legs.

[rocky gust]

Next time you join a lobby and see dozer

Just follow them

And see their behavior

Sometimes its more astounding than watching AI

Half of them go in objectives and find a corner and shield

[pastel tree]

New 2042 lore, elves reveal

[vocal tusk]

As dozer, If you start taking damage from the front and don't instantly crouch, then that's on you. Lol

99% of players just panic and don't shoot for the feet. Even when you do, it's not all that effective

[pastel tree]

Well you wanted to discuss it so I did + made points as to why , so you're welcome to still think that (not trying to be sarcastic since text intonation is difficult)

[vital quail]

Maybe I'm just dumb but does this actually nerf dozer more than anything

Dozer shield deploy time has been lowered by 80%

[eager spire]

lol

[pastel tree]

I imagine most of them are clowns lmao

Same way certain hero types gather a particular player types in games

[rocky gust]

Classic DICE. I would think they meant increasing the deploy time too

Idk if the lowered means an actual time decrease or like

[vocal tusk]

Not really. It just makes swapping to the shield less of a get out of jail free card.

[rocky gust]

Lowered as in slowed

They are terrible at wording things

[vital quail]

Yeah idk the wording of it

[rocky gust]

I would think its slowed

Deploy time rn is p fast enough

[pastel tree]

Man how much has changed in batch notes or balance since launch lol

[vocal tusk]

Yes

[vital quail]

A lot

[pastel tree]

I feel like there's a whole library for the 2042 patch notes

[eager spire]

yeah, the game's been out for 3 years

[vital quail]

I first played when it was free on ps+ tho

[pastel tree]

Yeah I got it during the $5 sale

Apparently classes didn't exist at launch? Only the specialists?

[vital quail]

Yeah if you just watch a video from near launch, a lot of the menus are unrecognizable

[pastel tree]

[vital quail]

And some of the maps

[pastel tree]

Were the maps worse back then

[rocky gust]

You have no idea

[acoustic seal]

they're still bad but they have a few playable areas in them now

[rocky gust]

Kaleidoscope BT, obj on roof, with boltes and tanks defending it

Only way up? Elevators and parachutes

[eager spire]

they were worse, but the current versions aren't good either

like

now 2042's maps are like, D tier. They used to be F tier.

which is an improvement, but not really.

[pastel tree]

That sounds scary

[eager spire]

playing 2042 is a scary experience. Especially on PC where the mouse input doesn't work properly.

Because of an engine level issue that DICE aren't gonna fix.

[kindred flint]

being able to call in vehicles on roofs was a mistake glad dice didnt think to not allow that though /s

[pastel tree]

The true horror gaming of 2024

[pastel tree]

You know, I had seen the tank call ins and I wondered to myself if those were ever deployed on roofs lmao

[fresh lintel]

Delta force devs laughing in the background

[acoustic seal]

delta force should keep their vehicles terrible, i think it would be really funny

[kindred flint]

so really copy paste BF?

[vocal tusk]

You say that like they are that way deliberately lol

[fresh lintel]

Also keep screen shake high so snipers have to actually fucking reposition

[vocal tusk]

That's the best they can do

[pastel tree]

How is delta force looking anyway, release in a few days

[eager spire]

looks okay.

[vocal tusk]

Delta Force combined arms is not going to be good. It will be worse than 2042, and 2042 is the worst in any Battlefield game.

It's the same in the early access Chinese version as it was in the alpba/beta. RC vehicle's with terrible balance

[pastel tree]

I haven't touched bf1, 4, or V, what has made 2042 the worst for combined arms?

Im out of the loop

[fresh lintel]

Yeah i keep watching Ravic play it and it genuinely doesn't look interesting. And this is coming from a 2042 fan.

Like the ONLY thing it has going for it, and its the bare fucking minimum: Its not a buggy mess on release.

[eager spire]

I mean, if the infantry gameplay's decent, it'll be fine.

[pastel tree]

They got an extraction and raid mode

Actually 2042 tried extraction for some reason

[fresh lintel]

The infantry gunplay looks kinda mid.

[vocal tusk]

The maps are not designed for combined arms, at launch all specialists could take a launcher so vehicle players were just screwed. All vehicles has 30 or 50mm explosive cannons. Infantry and vehicle interplay is next to non exist ant I. 2942,outside of the odd engineer repair.

Past games had vehicles play a core part in pushing and capturing objectives. This game has them as a secondary element.

[acoustic seal]

vehicle cameras are incredibly floaty and hard to aim with, infantry can pick lis and get regenerating TV missiles to kill you with, MBT acceleration is *fucking awful*

[pastel tree]

Ahh thank you, I was not aware of these old balance changes

All specialists had launchers wat

[vocal tusk]

The gunplay in DF gets pretty boring for me. Everything is just a laser and the gunsmith just let's you make things an extra laser, with a 90 round mag.

It desperately needs spread on auto fire

[kindred flint]

when soldiers would get shot with those explosive cannons, you would basically be staggered too.... such a fun gameplay loop

base DF guns, hilarious recoil everywhere- upgraded literal hit scan weapon

[fresh lintel]

Sounds like the CoD gunsmith.

And the CoD Gunsmith has ALL the capability to be fun but it alway ends up being "Laser beam with LMG mag" or "Hipfire laserbeam with LMG mag"

[void gorge]

Can someone please explain to me why such a bizarre thing happens? I'm playing 2042 now And I have a weapon that is a sniper With armor-piercing ammunition And I aimed at the enemy vehicle with the zoom and after shooting consequently the vehicle suffered damage but when I aimed in the direction of the vehicle and shot without zooming I saw that the vehicle was not damaged

[vocal tusk]

Pretty much. It's a game people think will take the Battlefield crowd, but it's just cod weapons with slower movement and shitty vehicles.

Ill play it, but it's not this next level Battlefield game people make it out to be.

[kindred flint]

people will get burned out faster than the latest blops

[vocal tusk]

It has way less maps, and only new stuff every 3 months post launch. Time will tell tbh.

[fresh lintel]

It'll certainly be a CoD players game actually. Especially since the only movement is ADAD strafing lmao

[vocal tusk]

It can be fun with a few friends, but like I've said in the past...what game isnt?

[fresh lintel]

Monopoly.

[eager spire]

any more movement and people will complain, I think. People complain about 2042's movement.

[acoustic seal]

call of duty is when gun has mechanics

[vocal tusk]

I'll play it 100% tho, especially as it's FTP. But mainly because this game gets no new content and I'm waiting g for the next one.

[fresh lintel]

I mean the game could have sliding for all I care. Everything looks slower. Which caters to the older gen CoD players.

Hell its not hard playing as a crack addict in the new CoD but its also not hard to simply shotgun the fucking creatures lmao

[pastel tree]

There was a stagger? Wew

[vocal tusk]

It has sliding, but it's a specialist perk lol

[fresh lintel]

Oh yeah if its F2P its going to have a relatively strong start. I can only assume how quickly things start getting power crept.

[vocal tusk]

There was stagger on heavy explosives. Soldiers would get knocked back. It was extremely toned down post launch

[pastel tree]

That sounds hilarious hearing about it, sounds awful to actually experience

[fresh lintel]

Cant be any worse than R6 shields right now.

[eager spire]

I mean, playing like a "crack addict" is fun.

[kindred flint]

and like every vehicle would have that ability

the fucking boltes at launch were stupidly broken

[fresh lintel]

Its fun until you realize how unfun it is for other people.

[pastel tree]

How has that been, I heard 2024 had a big shield rework

[acoustic seal]

yeah, the fast firing cannons would basically stunlock you until you died

[kindred flint]

attack choppers could eat you alive

[eager spire]

The last thing i'm gonna be concerned about are the opinions of someone that can't aim at a player that's moving fast.

[pastel tree]

Wats the third thing you're gonna be concerned about

[fresh lintel]

Shields dont do damage anymore. But they knockdown players.

Yes. You can stun lock someone with enough shields.

Yes, the only counter to this is to melee shields. You can melee faster than the shields.

No, you cant escape once two shields have you.

[pastel tree]

[fresh lintel]

I dont play R6 and already knew it was a bad idea. Lmao

[patent pivot]

Siege is already a shit turd

it used to be okay

now its turd

[fresh lintel]

Until someone starts doing it to you then it becomes a "Who can out cancer who" and it quite frankly fucking bores me.

Its not CoD to me.

[pastel tree]

Man siege has changed so much

[acoustic seal]

every time i see a siege changelog it's some of the most miserable shit i could possibly come up with for a shooter, idk how ubisoft does it

[fresh lintel]

If I wanted high octane stupid fast movement i'd go play Unreal tournament. Or Quake.

[patent pivot]

from a dark, CQC shooter

to a freaking colorful shitfest

[vital quail]

Holy fuck i predicted a tk message

[vocal tusk]

I used to love siege. Played it so much when it launched and had a lot of fun. It's been years since I played it tho, over 6 years.

[pastel tree]

Rip

[patent pivot]

siege back then was like oppheniemer

now its barbie

thats a comparison

[fresh lintel]

Welcome to a post Fortnite world.

[eager spire]

I mean, I want that. But players don't play arena shooters anymore because they can't handle aiming at people that are moving fast.

[pastel tree]

I was actually wondering if there's any active modern arena shooters

Law breakers tried and then died

[fresh lintel]

Which is a wild take considering how much people love the high speed movement in the new CoD.

[patent pivot]

they really downgraded the story of the game

[acoustic seal]

"yeah uhhhh we took this operator's gun and nerfed it 20 times because people were picking them for their gadget"

they literally look at a pick rate vs win rate chart and invent nerfs solely based on that info

[fresh lintel]

I wouldnt even say its the story. Its just the constant need to turn a game into a live service because Fortnite did it. And then adding skins and paases.

[pastel tree]

I remember that's how sledge got nerf

[patent pivot]

you rmemeber in the early days

the game opened up a lore FMV

then further explains it in the tutorial missions

now its all gone

fucking gone

[fresh lintel]

Wasnt that the one with the hazmat team going into the university?

[patent pivot]

Her name was Six

now its dumb generic dude

who replaced her

disgrace

[fresh lintel]

The one who got shot by edgy revolver boy who only survived fisher because of a mirror?

[pastel tree]

What the hell even happened that people burned out on blops 6

[fresh lintel]

Theyre probably playing MW3.

[pastel tree]

Wat caused it

[fresh lintel]

It looks like they put all their money into the "Omni movement" sham.

[kindred flint]

uhh its the same thing that happens every time a new CoD comes out?

1 week hype, then people get all depressed at how shitty the game is

[fresh lintel]

And I had some idiots argue with me that "You could always shoot through the buses and walls in Nuke town"

LIKE YOU CLEARLY HAVENT PLAYED BLACK OPS 2 THEN?

Yes by the way in BO6 you basically have infinite penetration.

Theres also skill based damage.

[acoustic seal]

new gimmick feature made irrelevant by series staple aim assist and SBMM, rinse and repeat

[fresh lintel]

Yup

[kindred flint]

oh right the omni movement shit..how could i forget

[fresh lintel]

Its the same fucking shit with a new coat of paint. But now sometimes you do zero damage while some shitter can kill you in two hits with the same gun through a wall.

It doesnt help that people did the camo grind asap which burnt alot of people out.

[pastel tree]

Yeah that is just a good way to ruin enjoying the game quickly

Omni movement is nice for zombies but I'm guessing it's nominal for multiplayer

[fresh lintel]

I just think the camo grind is stupid considering A: Little to no one is going to use the camos once a Paid one comes out and B: I aint using fucking LMGs.

[eager spire]

See, what makes Quake different from CoD is that Quake has generally less cheese.

You can't run a sniper rifle and one shot people across the map.

[fresh lintel]

Its also objectively better.

[eager spire]

You can't oneshot someone with a shotgun.

[fresh lintel]

I mean

[eager spire]

it's objectively better because it has less cheese.

[fresh lintel]

Okay yeah nah not in Quake nevermind.

In Unreal tournament you can one shot with a Flak Cannon though. :3

[acoustic seal]

i wish quake champions didn't shit the bed

[fresh lintel]

I just want to play as Strogg.

Fuck using abilities I just wanna be a Strogg.

[acoustic seal]

i could've lived with the hero shit but when they released it to the public, the netcode was dogshit and your rockets would fire at random angles

[eager spire]

the game's generally fine now tho.

[fresh lintel]

Maybe i'll reinstall it on my alienware when I get that fixed.

I know Gianni plays it alot now a days

[acoustic seal]

too little too late

[fresh lintel]

Yeah maybe. But it is still running.

Unlike UT4.

Fuck you, EPIC.

[eager spire]

speaking of still running, It's also going to transition to a server browser/player hosted servers system in the future as the matchmaking is going to go down eventually.

[fresh lintel]

Makes sense if the playerbase is a bit low

[pastel tree]

Do we panic

[eager spire]

uh, i'm talking about Quake Champions, and personally, I don't think so, because at least the game is still going to be playable.