battlefield-2042

[vocal tusk]

Bf1 iirc had score count up based on the flags you owned.

Not down

[eager spire]

Yeah, but BF1 made it so you didn't have to have the majority of flags to score points

[vocal tusk]

Yes, but that's not the issue. The issue is losing 10 tickets each time the enemy team caps a flag.

[abstract night]

All these paragraphs

[ivory canopy]

I think them walking back on some of the concepts they experimented with actually hurt, more than helped. It resulted in a half-assed concept. Controversial as the decisions may have been, they should have been all-in on them, adding polish using feedback as opposed to completely scrapping the ideas after two years.

[eager spire]

I think they should experiment with new concepts after establishing a solid foundation with concepts people generally like, instead of removing things people like to make room for new concepts.

[ivory canopy]

Yeah, well said

[eager spire]

They suffer from a habit of trying to fix what's not broken, and forgetting good ideas.

[ivory canopy]

Yup.

[abstract night]

For some reason that’s literally everyone too

[ivory canopy]

That's why I would lament a sequel to BC2.

[vocal tusk]

Conquest scoring was just fine in games like bf3/4. It seems like the same story of change for the sake of change.

[abstract night]

Activision, apple, dice, EA, every big tech/gaming corporation just ends up doing something nobody wanted. So frustrating

[mortal horizon]

Every BF game has its own degree of flair. BF4 introduced levolution. BFV it was fortifications. Didn't play much of BF1 but it had the blimps/trains. BF2042 took a risk with specialists and larger player counts.

If they didn't attempt to innovate at least a little they'd be no different than Call of Duty with its rehashed sequels year after year.

[abstract night]

Larger player counts and plus menu were the only interesting thing to come out of 2042

The maps, specialists, and literally everything else can go

[eager spire]

Every time they attempt to "innovate", they fuck something else up, or they scrap good ideas they had in the past, Levolution was not one of those good ideas, by the way.

[abstract night]

Also I knew someone was gonna make that argument that if they don’t change things they’ll end up like CoD but let’s be real here, CoD pulls in millions of players annually. What they do works good enough

[mortal horizon]

It's subjective. Personally I really enjoyed the specialists but didn't like the larger player count. You can't please everybody.

[mortal horizon]

Please don't encourage them 🤮

[eager spire]

Behemoths in BF1 are fucking annoying, as are Elite Classes. They should've been exclusive to Operations rather than shitting up basic gamemodes, and even then they fucked up Conquest.

[abstract night]

Like if they just did BF4 but with different themes that’d be fine, and then ofc they can add new mechanical things to spice it up in between launches

[abstract night]

I definitely don’t want the exact same game every 2 years but let’s be real: CoD sticks to its formula and that’s why it’s successful

[eager spire]

BFV fucked up gunplay by adding spread to recoil conversion, a "feature" that nobody asked for.

[ivory canopy]

I didn't mind specialists, nor the 128p modes. I wish they implemented it better, especially from the start.

[mortal horizon]

Here's a hot take. BFV was my least favorite BF game (due to settings and map design), 2042 was probably my favorite due to specialists.

[eager spire]

I think more players =/= better.

[vocal tusk]

Flair and changing things like how popular mode scoring works are different things.

I'm totally fine with the addition of things like levelution, behemoths, battle pickups and elite soldiers.

[ivory canopy]

I had a couple good ideas for specialists.

[abstract night]

BF1 was my last favorite game in the franchise, for me it went downhill rapidly after that

[eager spire]

The only idea I have regarding specialists is to not have them in the game anymore.

[mortal horizon]

Map design was definitely lacking at launch. They were great maps but just felt under developed in many areas. Glad they took the time to revamp all of them.

[ivory canopy]

While that is true, I wish they didn't have to lose time doing that to begin with.

[abstract night]

I’ll just put it like this: if 2042 just had playable maps at launch imagine where it could’ve been 2 years down the road without having to go in and fix literal launch content

That’s why that game just pisses me off

[dusty elm]

the M44 revolver should have been dipped into chrome to make it look more realistic right now it looks boring like a fake toy

[vocal tusk]

Maps at 2042 launch were just purely terrible and not fit for release if we are being honest.

[eager spire]

2042 had bigger problems than just the maps.

[ivory canopy]

This

[latent jasper]

2042 anti air is literally the most excruciating thing known to man

youll be airborne 2 minutes max then get shot down

[abstract night]

There really were not many good maps in that game besides orbital cuz space rocket is cool

[eager spire]

it had mouse input that was literally not functioning correctly, and still isn't.

[abstract night]

[dusty elm]

Better guns create better movement

[latent jasper]

i never get orbital

im stuck w uh

i forgot the name

half desert half grass

border

[ivory canopy]

and TDM has some really crappy maps in rotation

They're either way too big for the normal 16v16 mode or too open.

[latent jasper]

"movement" and "battlefield' in the same sentence 💔

[mortal horizon]

It was much worse at launch when everybody had access to the same tools. Glad they went back and shaped the game into classes, that made a world of difference. Everybody was rocking the recoiless back then.

[abstract night]

Also I agree that the issues were bigger than just maps, the same concept applies: imagine if the game was at a decent state with design we wanted at launch, could’ve easily been this franchises MW19 2 years down the road. That’s the standard that the community needs to have as a whole

Like none of this “it’s good now” BS

[latent jasper]

the recoiless sucks

[ivory canopy]

dat Angel one-man missile silo

[latent jasper]

i hit sum dude point blank and got a hitmarker

and it only does quarter dmg on light armor

[mortal horizon]

Also not having access to dedicated TDM at launch was a huge letdown.

[eager spire]

i'm not gonna waste time imagining a better game, because clearly DICE have no interest in making one.

[ivory canopy]

I've noticed that recoilless M5 seems to not get instas on near-direct infantry.

[ivory canopy]

I don't blame you for that

[latent jasper]

humans clearly adapted to rockets in 2042

[abstract night]

Which is true, I like to talk about and put the idea in people’s head regardless cause I’m totally fine with just ditching Battlefield if the next game isn’t decent

[ivory canopy]

I, myself, am kinda faithless regarding the next BF.

[eager spire]

I ditched Battlefield after BF1.

I saw the downward trend.

[abstract night]

I’m still complacent with BF1 which is almost 10 yrs old

[ivory canopy]

I actually quite like BF1. Wasn't a fan of BFV.

[eager spire]

BF1 was the start of DICE making really bad gameplay decisions. BFV was doubling down.

BF2042 was tripling down.

[abstract night]

Same

[latent jasper]

still room to make it worse!!

[abstract night]

It is a very inconsistent game in its design IMO

[ivory canopy]

I know Deco brought this up that there's really no shot at making the next BF title (nor any of them) playable on a Linux based OS like Debian or Arch.

[normal heart]

Im doing latv4 mastery anyone wanna join?

[abstract night]

The problem is masses still rely too much on the newest CoD and Battlefield which honestly ain’t gonna change, but there’s way better games out there that I stick to when I have free time and I’m not out in the real world living and working. Like if most of the BF/COD community could do that we’d probably get somewhere, but until then I’ll just focus on indie/milsims and other gaming genres entirely

[ivory canopy]

The Battlefield games are the only reason I have Windows anymore, if I may be honest. Otherwise I'd go all-in for Arch Linux.

[mortal horizon]

No other game scratches the same itch for me as the Battlefield/Battlefront games. Anytime I come back to them they're still fun and exciting. I've sworn off COD entirely since MW2.

[normal heart]

Im doing latv4 mastery farm anyone wanna join?

[latent jasper]

we heard u the first time gng

[ivory canopy]

BO2 was the end of COD for me.

[eager spire]

raise your standards a bit.

[vocal tusk]

I have a decent amount of faith for the next game (call it hopium if you want, I'm fine with it) mainly due to how well I think the team did at making the best out of the mess that was launch 2042, and the leadership that is now in place over the franchise. Lots of green flags so far in the info we have for it also.

[abstract night]

I agree although at the same time it’s a mix of a protest and also my preferences that keeps me on the older Battlefield games as opposed to anything new out of the franchise

[mortal horizon]

My standards and preferences are perfectly fine, lol.

[eager spire]

nah.

[ivory canopy]

The sad thing is, I paid $96 for my copy of BF2042.

[latent jasper]

i use gamepass and get it free

20 a month tho💔

[ivory canopy]

That money could have instead gone to buying the newest five or six Touhou games, and I might have gotten more my money's worth.

[vocal tusk]

So you dont get it for free then, you pay for gamepass.

[mortal horizon]

Very few games I can say I've put in over 700 hours and still have fun playing. So many broader games get boring around the 20-30 hours mark.

[latent jasper]

i also get most other bf games w it

[vocal tusk]

I get all these TV shows and movies for free, I just have to pay 20 bucks a month for Netflix to access them. 😜

[latent jasper]

i made the brutal mistake of getting bfv

[abstract night]

Well bfv is certainly better than 2042 but it’s not without its own issues

[latent jasper]

pay 50 for a game or pay 20 for 100 games

[ivory canopy]

I know it's a pipe dream, EA making their anti-cheat Linux compatible.

[vocal tusk]

20 forever if you want to retain access.

[mortal horizon]

BFV used to aggravate me. Too many snipers and wide open spaces made it a frustrating experience.

[latent jasper]

im better of not keeping permanent access if i plan to no longer play

[abstract night]

Relying on digital copies/gamepass/ps now is a really dangerous thing cause like, all it takes is your account getting banned

100s/1000s of dollars worth of games gone and you gotta rebuy them

[copper acorn]

[eager spire]

I mean, not getting your account banned is pretty easy.

[latent jasper]

not really

u could get false banned without appeal

[abstract night]

It’s also about preservation or say if you wanted to take the game to another place and play it

[eager spire]

you say that like that's a constant thing that happens.

[abstract night]

Your account getting banned is just 1 thing to worry about when it comes to buying digital only

[white field]

but disc can get broken or lost

[mental gate]

ight this is wild, 43 minutes into a breakthrough match and the enemy team isnt pushing do i leave the game or stay because i need the challenges for Battlepass

[mortal horizon]

How common do you really think it is for people to get their accounts falsly banned?!?

[latent jasper]

not if ur responsible

not directed btw

[white field]

ik but you wont get banned if ur responsible too

[eager spire]

Not very.

[latent jasper]

happened to me a few times

[mortal horizon]

Were you tampering with your files?

[latent jasper]

no

[abstract night]

The biggest reason, again, is always just preservation

[mortal horizon]

x_doubt.gif

[abstract night]

But if something were to happen to your account or console it’d help to have physical copies of your games

[latent jasper]

dawg asked a question and expected only one answer

[latent jasper]

then its a pain swapping them

[acoustic seal]

getting false banned isnt really common, getting banned for incredibly petty reasons has never been more common

[vocal tusk]

Context or proof?

[acoustic seal]

for example, dice/EA's stance on 2042 moderation is that doxing other players in game chat is okay, but shit talking specific dev decisions on youtube is off limits

[vocal tusk]

So the ashe thing, which was handled

[acoustic seal]

the ashe thing was not even remotely handled, and it happened to enders too

[vocal tusk]

Do people expect EA/DICE to be their personal minders tho, and sit around all day taking care of people who interact with one random player?

[acoustic seal]

i'm talking about some of the most cut + dry harassment cases possible lmfao

[vocal tusk]

I'm not even gonna get into this lmao

Enders deserved a ban, should have been longer. People harassing ashe also should have been.

People making it some kind of competition is plain weird.

[acoustic seal]

yeah i'd run away too if i had nothing

other than "i don't like the guy it happened to so they deserved it"

deranged opinion btw

[void gorge]

And to think that unfortunately unnecessary bans are what happen most and I say this because that's what happened to me and also talking about appeals when I turned to the team that theoretically should have given you support they simply didn't provide support and so sometimes the only solution is you pay a lawyer especially if the banned account is important to you and you are willing

[vocal tusk]

Yes, I don't like them. Doesn't detract from the point that they deserved a ban.

Enders won't bang you mate.

[acoustic seal]

me when i get criticized for something i say publicly in my official capacity as a dev 💢

[void gorge]

One thing that irritated me about this game is that, for example, sometimes during the game in the game chat some type of system keeps spamming and consequently disrupts the chat if you want to talk to other people and also the most frustrating thing is that the developers don't do nothing to solve this since for the love of God they were the ones who made the game

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, calling someone a loser moron repeatedly in streams and videos is constructive criticism. 100%

You can mute and Block that player.

[acoustic seal]

"i don't like his tone so he deserved it" is getting a little bit closer to sanity

i think

[void gorge]

That's it, without a doubt, this game is magnificent in terms of graphics and optimization because even though it's a 2018 game, it's still a heavy game and my PC, which is, let's say, weak, still managed to run bF 5 with high graphics without crashing. The 2042 with medium graphics is practically impossible

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, the tone being...."x person is a moron, like really, this guy is an idiot. They don't deserve to work on videos games, let alone Battlefield" Then numerous variations on that with harsher language.

[acoustic seal]

you are very lucky to have never met someone who's incompetent in their role

[vocal tusk]

I used to watch their streams, but when that behavior started... I completely stopped and dislike them as a creator.

[acoustic seal]

i mean now you're just lying lol, enders was not any easier on them when bf5 was current

[vocal tusk]

Yes but he never called out specific people by their names and social tags. Resulting in those devs and CMs getting harassed by his community.

Which is why any action was noticed or taken in the first place.

[acoustic seal]

specific people had not gone on official podcasts to be stupid in public prior to 2042, and no evidence of harassment was shown beyond the youtube video

[vocal tusk]

You 100% do or did not watch this person's streams

[acoustic seal]

in fact the twitter post went up almost immediately after the youtube video

this is the same thin-skinned community team that tried to justify not adding squad kick as "avoiding toxicity"

it's a pattern

[tropic berry]

[acoustic seal]

remember, ghostgaming got kicked out of the ea cn for exposing them to criticism on that one

[vocal tusk]

Don't know why you are saying harrassment is bad when it's a streamer or YouTuber getting it on one hand, then saying harassment is fine, or that the dev team is thin skinned on the other.

Seems hypocritical to me. But whatever.

Was waiting for ghost to be brought up, when that was even more justified a removal. Literally posted info from a server you aren't allowed post info from.

Harsh for sure, but totally fair given what happened

[acoustic seal]

read between the lines even a little bit and you find the same egocentric dev shit that killed planetside 2

[naive ember]

Ps2 was trash

[vocal tusk]

No much reading between the lines is needed. It's a classic case of "fuck around and find out"

[acoustic seal]

be real, the ghostgaming thing would've been a slap on the wrist if it didnt create a point of criticism

but it hurt an ego so he had to go lol

[vocal tusk]

It would have been if it didn't start a shit storm of unnecessary hate toward an ex CM. I agree. But it did, so the punishment fit the effect of the crime.

Like if I knock over a shelf in a warehouse, destroying 5 tvs. I'd have to pay for those tvs. But if I knock a shelf and someone dies, I go to prison.

Tldr; actions have consequences

[acoustic seal]

ah yeah i forgot, getting a couple mean messages (at most, game was already dead lol) gives you full justification to flip the table and take your ball and go home

[vocal tusk]

I now know the kind of person you are now tho. So something good came of this conversation

[acoustic seal]

i wish i could have a CM job with zero composure like that

[vocal tusk]

Have a good evening

[acoustic seal]

you talk about proportional response until someone invokes "harassment" and then they get a get-out-of-jail-free card

unless its someone you explicitly don't like

[vocal tusk]

That's what you have been saying tho. I have no skin in the game when it relates to the ashe situation. I don't watch them, never have and Probably don't know half of the facts so I didn't comment on it that much.

You on the other hand said it's basically fine to harass devs, post their names and show their faces and social tags on your streams and videos and have nothing happen to you.

Make it make sense. You can have it both ways,and two wrongs dont make a right.

[acoustic seal]

they went on the official podcast under their real name and spoke in an official capacity, do we just ignore that?

[vocal tusk]

So you're doubling down on the whole..."its fine to harass devs if they appear on public podcasts" angle. Wow, didn't see that one coming 😅

I'm just gonna drop this, cos I've said my piece now.

[acoustic seal]

are we not supposed to touch official communications with any form of criticism?

[tropic berry]

Criticism and harassment is quite different i'd say

[acoustic seal]

where is the harassment

there was an enders yt video and that's about it

[vocal tusk]

Literally pointed it out multiple times above my guy

You're not paying attention.

[acoustic seal]

there was a bf twitter vaguepost with suspiciously close timing to the yt video and a single game ban handed out

[orchid tusk]

🍿

[vocal tusk]

Maybe you don't attribute harrassment as pulling someone's face up, having their social tag visible, then spending multiple minutes calling that person an idiot, moron and other words I'll get muted for here, etc. But I do.

So to each their own. Justified ban for me. That's my opinion.

[latent jasper]

we should lowk ban the wildcat

[acoustic seal]

are you talking about the straatford screenshot with his public discord profile?

are you serious?

[vocal tusk]

No, the now ex dev who will remain nameless. The weapon designer for which they got the ban.

[latent jasper]

AMOTHER WILDCAT

lowk js remove aircraft atp

[vocal tusk]

I can't remember where the wildcat sits at the moment. Was it's range made infinite again, or does it have a max range for max damage per hit?

[latent jasper]

range is everywhere, 2 taps most aircraft

high armor

a wildcat js shot me w 3 rockets

[vocal tusk]

I mean, as it should, no?

Or you mean it shot you with a pod weapon or something?

[latent jasper]

it only has 2 rockets till it needs to reload

he shot 3 within a few seconds

[vocal tusk]

I don't think it has infinite range tho. I thought that was reduced

For the main cannon I think it's something like 450m then falls off, then another value for lock on range.

[latent jasper]

theyre locking on from the opposite side of the map on exposure

and him hiding in his spawn makes it impossible to actually destroy it

[vocal tusk]

I generally dont fly air vehicles tho tbh. So the woes of air players are foreign to me. I play mostly infantry

The most annoying thing for me as a pilot was always the TGM tho. As at least when I play in air vehicles, I rarely came against a competent AA player.

[latent jasper]

nvm the games js bad

i js shot sum dude 3 times in the head w the aek and we walked it off

[vocal tusk]

Damn, one more and you had him!

[latent jasper]

3 shots usually does it for the aek

matter of fact, 2 does aswell

[vital quail]

Do you have damage numbers on

[latent jasper]

why would i

[kindred flint]

i only had 38 kills...but i still had more than my 3 squadmates combined wtf is with these teammates sometimes

[latent jasper]

nah imma get this tank and blow this goofy

[vital quail]

So you know if you actually shot someone in the head

[latent jasper]

and my teammates stole it

[latent jasper]

the hitmarker changes, and he was 2 feet infront of me

[vital quail]

Damage numbers would confirm it

[latent jasper]

guess whats even better

i finally get my own wildcat

and my enemy hops in a stealth heli and bombs me

how exactly is he stealth with his bomb bay doors open

[vital quail]

Because in stealth mode they drop the bombs

???

[latent jasper]

radar should notice aircraft w bomb bay doors open

[vocal tusk]

Can't you still shoot and kill in 2 seconds even when they are in stealth. They are still incredibly visible.

[vital quail]

And slow

[vocal tusk]

Stealth heli is probably the worse air vehicle right now actually. Even counting the pondhawk haha

[latent jasper]

w the 30mm?

i tried, it barely does enough dmg

[vocal tusk]

It's such a glass cannon, in a Battlefield full of other cannons.

[latent jasper]

by the time theyre almost done they alr dropped the bombs and i gotta move

[vocal tusk]

About 3 seconds of direct hits should fully kill a stealth HELI at 400m. It has very low HP.

And even then, a full bomb run hit shouldn't kill a Wildcat from 100 to 0

It's 4 bombs doing 22 damage a hit

[vital quail]

The nice thing about the wildcat too is it can move

[vocal tusk]

Lol

Doesn't it also have APS now, which totally negates stealth bombs?

[vital quail]

Takes a while to unlock i think

I don't use wildcat so idk

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, but 15 mins in a bot match hahah

[latent jasper]

GOT HIM LACKIN

RAHH

[vocal tusk]

This feels like a baby vs nuclear bomb moment.

😜

[latent jasper]

im getting my javelin back

[vocal tusk]

Get a recon to dart or soflam them for a 2 hit kill on any armor. 🤌

[latent jasper]

i wish the javelin went higher

now this goofy hiding in the hills

[vocal tusk]

TGM time.

[dusty elm]

no more season updates?

[vocal tusk]

Yes, no more seasons. Ended with season 7. All 2042 gets now is small content patches in the form of vault weapons/vehicles, QoL, event and bug fixing update support.

[ivory canopy]

You mean one vault weapon since LOL

[latent jasper]

f35 so broken bruh

i aint even know this dude fired a rocket till it was coming at me

or even locked onto me at all

no lock warning, just straight rocket

[vital quail]

Both jets have passive radar missles

[orchid tusk]

did you chuck some flares at him?

[vital quail]

Or active radar missles

Whatever they are called

[dusty elm]

We need more guns in BF6 that are way more better than 2042

more shiny & animated, better polished

[calm crescent]

I just want a good old M4A1

[dusty elm]

The guns should dictate most of the players movement

for example the heavy the weapon the slower the player moves

[vital quail]

Ok

[gloomy lance]

You ever accidently forget you left southpark on with your mic on?

[naive ember]

[void gorge]

Players with their microphone on is one of the funniest and most annoying situations in the game because you are paying attention to the sound of the environment but someone in your squad leaves the microphone open and then you go there and politely ask him to close it but he doesn't answer you and Then you don't know if he doesn't answer you because he doesn't want to or because he isn't listening to you

[void gorge]

Is there a difference? Because recently I discussed a similar situation in a WhatsApp group because in the conversation I told people that when you run with your soldier across the map with the weapon raised, that is the tactical run and then apparently your soldier runs faster than when you have the weapon lying down, but one person answered me saying that there is no difference at all

[gloomy lance]

It is even better when you realize you were just yelling at a random person in the house and the mic is on

[orchid tusk]

i would be delighted if open mic were not an available option. or maybe a fart sound button.

[glass imp]

Tactical sprint is faster than normal sprint

[tropic berry]

real

[dusty elm]

I can't tell the difference between running with a knife & running with a lmg

[tropic berry]

When i run, it feels like i walk 😔

[dusty elm]

the lmg is slow when it comes to aiming down sight & steping left to right which is ok

[eager spire]

Alex, wasn't it?

Doesn't even take that long to find, a twitter post with his actual name from his own twitter when he was announcing he works for "TTK Games" as a "Senior Game Designer" exists on the subreddit.

[dusty elm]

The next battlefield game needs to sh*t on COD

[naive ember]

That's never going to happen

[eager spire]

They simply are not held to the same standards.

which is impressive

because the standards both franchises are held to are not that high.

like, people do not hold CoD or Battlefield to high standards at all.

2042 gets a pass despite not having mouse input that does not function correctly.

for over 3 years.

[dusty elm]

[dusty elm]

I can confirm when i comes to weapons, most of the cod weapons are way more better than bf2042 weapons put together

[naive ember]

Go play cod then bud

[dusty elm]

I can't it's completely broken with sbmm/cheats

[naive ember]

Their weapons don't matter then

2042 >

[eager spire]

i mean at least bo6 has mouse input that works properly

that's a point it has over 2042.

[dusty elm]

what do you mean all the weapons got different ttk's & they look way more polished/animated

[eager spire]

like, if CoD had mouse input that didn't function correctly for years, you people wouldn't let 'em hear the end of it, people would still be talking about it. But Battlefield, nah, it's fine if 2042 has mouse input that doesn't work for over 3 years.

Anyone else fucks up like that, they're done. but no, Battlefield is just held to different standards.

Which don't include "does input in this game work properly"

[dusty elm]

I think COD killed K&M players when they buffed aim assist on controller. You can't tell the difference from a cheater using aim bot

[eager spire]

well yeah, but aim assist being overtuned is not the same issue as mouse input not functioning correctly.

[vapid monolith]

How’s the game holding up?

[void gorge]

To be sure, then there would have to be some kind of feature that calculates your soldier's speed when he is running with the weapon up and with the weapon lying down.

[void gorge]

I don't really understand what you meant, but I think that the Call of Duty that was recently released is better than Battlefield because I heard that in Call of Duty the game options are not mandatory in this case the mechanics and I say This is because in 2042 there is the mechanic of sliding with the soldier and this mechanic is generally more of a hindrance than a help and in the settings there is no specific option for you to deactivate this mechanic, that is a setback

[flint verge]

BF2042 ASIA anyone

[dusty elm]

Depending on the size/weight of the gun the player should slow down in every possible way

[dusty elm]

Just look at the player count is there more people playing cod or bf2042?

[vital quail]

Dumb comparison

[dusty elm]

No it's not the more players the more revenue for the company

[latent jasper]

cod drops more frequently, thats why their content gets more bland and reused

[glass imp]

No, you don’t need to test this, it’s a known fact. But here’s a fun thought experiment: do you have a reason for the developers including tactical sprint in the game when you claim it might not be faster than regular sprint?

[latent jasper]

prolly to try to resatisfy players before they get bored, and it obv backfired

[latent jasper]

funny thing

tactical sprint literally doesnt exist

[vital quail]

Add it to the long list of things he doesn't understand

[latent jasper]

youll always sprint the same speed

irl of course

[tropic berry]

It is very easy to source Mister TK.

Get yourself a recording of you running normal from A to B, time it. Then A to B with timer again.

[vital quail]

Incoming paragraph saying he doesn't know how to do that

[dusty elm]

No I think there should be only walk & sprint

[latent jasper]

??

thats sum insane thinking

[dusty elm]

sprint should have a timer

[vital quail]

Play hell let loose then

[latent jasper]

you can still run

[dusty elm]

it should not be made to sprint forever without getting puffed out

[glass imp]

Ok and I agree but we’re simply talking about 2042 in this instance.

[latent jasper]

youd be surprised how long you can run without getting tired

[dusty elm]

yes

[latent jasper]

sprinting is completely different

[dusty elm]

thats right

[latent jasper]

i really dont get 2042s movement

am i trippin or could we dive in bfv

[void gorge]

It depends on the time and also depends on the region

[dusty elm]

I haven't played bfv for years, I would need to re-install it

[eager spire]

it's too much effort for that guy. He probably doesn't even know how to run a timer.

[latent jasper]

bfv so goofy bruh who gave ww2 weapons red dots💔

[dusty elm]

lol

[void gorge]

But at least did you read the entire message? Because it's easy for you to judge if you don't do the minimum and then I think you're the idiot

[latent jasper]

wait what did u say

[dusty elm]

I'm in OCE & I can't find any matches during the day I have to play in Portal

[void gorge]

I will confess that your answer left me confused and I will ask you to simplify it

[latent jasper]

they lowk gotta remaster bf3

[glass imp]

oh dear tad

[vital quail]

Bruh

[latent jasper]

say what yall want but like

[tropic berry]

Remasters are cool in theory, but then have a ton of resources put into it, to only be played for a couple months and then gone.

[eager spire]

no.

[latent jasper]

not a single reason given is wild

[eager spire]

Don't need to.

[latent jasper]

then dont say nun rt

[eager spire]

How do you plan on stopping me.

:I

[void gorge]

you suggested something simple and efficient, but I suggested using more complex features to get more details

[tropic berry]

DICE needs to make a functional Battlefield, that is grounded and actually good without nonsense stuff. 😂
None of this is as simple as ''just make good'' of course, but one can have some copium and hopium.

[latent jasper]

how u plan on stoppin me bruh

[eager spire]

i don't.

[tropic berry]

No need for that Mister TK.

[latent jasper]

like imma have my opinions

[eager spire]

like i'm going to have mine.

[latent jasper]

if u gon be negative without reason js dont reply

aint hard bruh

[eager spire]

oh there are reasons

[tropic berry]

Which is great, and i respect your opinion 🙂 Which is why i shared mine ^^

[eager spire]

i just don't feel like elaborating.

[latent jasper]

nah u fine

[void gorge]

I asked if he at least read my entire message in which I compared the 2 games

[latent jasper]

like if u donf agree and got reasoning i respect that

but if u js hatin

thats different

[eager spire]

i got reasoning

i'm just not sharing it.

[tropic berry]

Put them in bullet points, ezpz

[latent jasper]

u js said you didnt

[eager spire]

no i didn't.

read what i said again

i didn't say i didn't have reasons.

[latent jasper]

"dont need to" that translates to "i dont have any"

[eager spire]

no it doesn't, that's a whole ass new statement my guy

[latent jasper]

cause aint no way u cant summarize a single sentence

[glass imp]

Why do you think tactical sprint isn’t faster than regular sprint? If it isn’t (which it is) then why did the developers include it into the game?

[eager spire]

it would require more than one sentence to go over why I don't think a BF3 remaster is necessary or even something you really want

[latent jasper]

not really nah, if you summarize

like uh

tobia

tobis

[tropic berry]

i feel violated for that

[glass imp]

it’s ok

[latent jasper]

what

[tropic berry]

Bro couldnt get my name right 😭

I will go into my corner now

[latent jasper]

whoops

anyways

[tropic berry]

I say they remaster BF3 and add lightsabers.

[eager spire]

consider this: i don't want to. that doesn't mean I don't have reasons for why I think a BF3 remaster isn't needed. All that means that I don't feel like explaining them to someone who is most likely not going to listen anyway.

[void gorge]

I'm not sure if there is a difference but by logic there should be because in a real life war if you are carrying a relatively light rifle the tendency is for you to be able to have flexibility and when you carry a heavier weapon like a bazooka then you should have more difficulty moving

[latent jasper]

so what u sayin is u gon disagree and refuse to elaborate

[eager spire]

yes i am.

[latent jasper]

i wanna see how bro does on argumentative essays

[eager spire]

I don't do argumentative essays.

[latent jasper]

"youre wrong im right end of essay"

[tropic berry]

https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Sprint source.

[glass imp]

I can tell you for certain there is a difference

[eager spire]

you've already demonstrated that you're willing to just not read what i'm saying and insert your own shit into it.

why would i waste my time.

[latent jasper]

they need to add a new movement where you absolutely hurl yourself at your enemy

[tropic berry]

I say there needs to be gravitational jumping where you literally superman yourself into the enemy like homelander.

[latent jasper]

dawg who are u

u talkin like u know what imma do

like u gon know how imma respond

[eager spire]

I literally just replied to a post of you doing that, what the fuck do you mean

[latent jasper]

what

u the only person ive had this problem with bruh

[tropic berry]

Yall i think we need to change this into:

Does Battlefield need Homelander level Jumping?
Playable Horseshoe crabs

[latent jasper]

put it together bro

[latent jasper]

yeah but when you land it js has the force of a 2000 pound bomb

land on a tank, destroyed instantly

[tropic berry]

No no, more like the MOP.

30,000-pounds of pure awesomeness

[latent jasper]

nah i was playin warzone a bit back during halloween

and sum dude skydived directly into me and knocked me

[tropic berry]

Yes but he could've MOP'd you

[latent jasper]

i aint even know u could do that

[tropic berry]

Instead he just 2PND you

[tropic berry]

There are ways for everything..

https://tenor.com/view/changeling-warhammer-fantasy-enemy-within-heinz-gif-10328647871044336275

[void gorge]

I just read it in summary and I don't know if there will be this tactical race in the next game in the franchise but I hope so because in games before 2042 when you have a weapon other than a pistol for example and you can't run with the weapon raised to have better flexibility And in these cases it would be interesting for developers to do a poll with the community to find out what players want or don't want in the next game because if developers don't listen to players the game simply won't happen

[vital quail]

Definitely shouldn't listen to the players here

[void gorge]

You said they need to add a mechanic where you launch yourself towards your enemies and then I remembered the game Max Payne which, if I'm not mistaken, is developed by Rockstar

[void gorge]

And why not? Since this server is the biggest when it comes to matters related to the game apparently and also in some community about Battlefield on reddit And I say reddit because a while ago in a game community someone made a post criticizing a situation and the company itself replied in the comments

[latent jasper]

i js watched a wildcat shove another wildcat off a cliff and kill it lmfao

[vital quail]

0 self awareness from tk

[glass imp]

fr

[eager spire]

As is usual.

[latent jasper]

2042 air support is literally non existent

[gloomy lance]

If you have a teammate with half a brain it is

[fresh lintel]

2042 Air support consists of the AH/Stealth farming infantry all game and a Jet occasionally shoving two lock ons into the back of a tank if they're feeling extra cunty.

Then the Wildcat just ends up being a stationary AA turret or glorified "Draugr isnt allowed" device.

[latent jasper]

yeah i dont get those

[gloomy lance]

Well I dont get teammates who repair my condor's

[weak vector]

oh there is a 3rd anniversary bundle that's free. Didn't know this game was already 3 years old

[sweet beacon]

wait really? dang

[acoustic seal]

here's to three years of misery and at least one more before the next game 🍻

[gloomy lance]

They should add an option for MSAA in the new BAttlefield game

[rugged citrus]

2042 air support consists of driving tanks off of skyscrapers and gunships that crash every 3 minutes

[dusty elm]

Javelin is useless takes way too long to fire

[acoustic seal]

lockons are noob traps in every game

[chilly jacinth]

They're good for noobs to put pressure on helis

[naive ember]

Speaking of noobs there was a in game regular on the enemy team last night who always spams the chat and got rekt

If I still had perm I would've posted the chat in here but I don't think EA will like what's said

[latent jasper]

they deal decent dmg and work well if u use them right

and most people dont know how to counter them

[void gorge]

I want to ask you a question: Do you have something against me? It's because sometimes when I send a message here I see that you directly or indirectly respond to me rudely but with other members you sometimes treat them well

[chilly jacinth]

You care too much about what others say

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

The final week of #BF2042 Circle of Hell is here!

🎮 Hardcore: Conquest, Rush, and Breakthrough.
🗺️ Battle of the Bulge, El Alamein, and Orbital. 🚀

Have you completed the Event Pass yet? 👀

𝕏 | 📷1 · Nov 19, 2024, 2:22 PM

[void gorge]

The point isn't even to worry too much but the point is that there is a clear prejudice against me and it doesn't happen today because this guy isn't the only one who acts like this and it's an unpleasant thing because do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to start acting like this with them too and then we'll see if they'll like it too

[shut cedar]

I think it might be any type of overlay like steam, discord or nvidia. EA anticheat may not play well with it. Going to test it by turning them all off right now.

[chilly jacinth]

You still care too much

You let everything bother you in some way

[naive ember]

Hammer is coming bud sooner or later

[reef cedar]

how many t1s u got

[naive ember]

10+

[reef cedar]

aye hell yeah, same

[void gorge]

Since you're criticizing me, I want to know if you're going to be fair and criticize the other guy too because he keeps sending provocative messages to generate stress

[glass imp]

don't worry, I am a very fair person

[chilly jacinth]

You're too sensitive, just ignore those "provocative" messages

[naive ember]

I don't consider him a fps player at all

[void gorge]

I bet there won't be any punishment if that's what you meant because yesterday I received a warning for alleged harassment that I committed and in the message they accused the harassment has nothing to do with it in this case the accusation and so I opened it a ticket to question the moderation if the other member who treated me with ignorance when I didn't treat him like that will also be notified and they responded saying they will investigate this situation

[void gorge]

You didn't answer my question and so I won't translate your answers anymore either.

[naive ember]

I'm sure that's just gonna stick pal it's a done deal

You gotta be one of those negative kd that spams the chat in game

[kindred flint]

Arc has finally won

[chilly jacinth]

Finally free from this guys messages

[naive ember]

tk is stressed out again

[rustic roost]

I can't buy battlepass after upgrading to the 30 battlepass level, the purchase button is not available. Does anyone encounter the same problem? Does the devs know about this situation?

[arctic grove]

I'm pretty sure 30 is the highest for this battlepass no?

[chilly jacinth]

Should be

[void gorge]

You talk about spam so much that you end up doing it yourself

[naive ember]

I'm on topic and you aren't

[hearty kiln]

Man I'm having trouble making the uh60 feel relevant in breakthrough or conquest

It's so weird too because Blackhawks can come equipped with a few different types of front mounted weaponry, weird they didn't add some for aow version

[naive ember]

They're irrelevant in BT

[hearty kiln]

Yeah it's sad

The most kills i saw any of my passengers get was a dude who was just shooting lis missiles and killing ppl while we were flying lol

[chilly jacinth]

It's meant more for purely transport

with the ability to defend itself

Instead of the flying fortresses we used to have

[pliant mortar]

is there anyone free to help me with the circle of hell easter egg reward?

[reef cedar]

a better strategy than some think lmao

[subtle sleet]

Hey, ive created a hardcore experience but im unable to post it to bfportal.gg as i keep getting "Internal server error". I suspect this is due to the image url, which i cant quite figure out how to create/paste properly. Any help?

[hearty kiln]

Yeah that part is fun, ducking in and out of high traffic zones has always been fun in transports especially with a repair guy or 2

[subtle sleet]

anyone wanna join conquest large to farm some xp?

[mental delta]

https://x.com/BFBulletin/status/1858926066397577352?t=I8rp2clhEvzbjU8j-DvMSw&s=33

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin) on X

REPORT: According to @InsiderGamingIG, EA and its #Battlefield teams are playtesting the next game with external players "on a more frequent basis than in past installments" to prevent another disastrous launch.

"The amount of data and feedback collected is the most the

Twitter · Nov 19, 2024, 5:31 PM

We're so fucking back lads

(Disastrous launch incoming)

[reef cedar]

so battlefields back

[eager spire]

so we're gonna hold 'em to higher standards when it comes to bugs that are in the game, right.

[mental delta]

I hope so

[mental delta]

I don't get it

[eager spire]

i mean, people seemed to just be willing to accept 2042 not having functional mouse input for years.

[mental delta]

Idk about that I don't play on PC lol

[eager spire]

Just saying, if they are apparently playtesting the game externally more frequently, then we should rightfully point that out if the next game comes out and is a shitshow on launch.

[reef cedar]

dude that's just battlefield

and most games that are ever created

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

#Battlefield 2042 launched globally 3 years ago 🎆 Log into the game to receive:

🎴 "3rd Anniversary" Player Card
🏷️ "Three Years Strong" Tag

Thank you for your continued support, No-Pats. 🫡

𝕏 | 📷1 · Nov 19, 2024, 7:03 PM

[naive ember]

2042 had a great launch

3 years strong

[fervent rose]

so in your world view most games that are ever created launch like 2042? that's fucking wild

objectively wrong too

[reef cedar]

ok

[reef cedar]

most of the issues happened to pc and multi-player
i still LOVED 2042 launch haha
xbox and coop

[fervent rose]

when you have zero standards 2042 launch is a fantastical event

[naive ember]

2042 launch is the greatest thing to happen

History won't repeat itself

[orchid tusk]

i waited til january (about 2 months). got a sweet deal for 34.99 from Epic. lol. Anyway, I was mostly fine with it. (obviously) Could it be better to me? Oh yeah!

[scenic junco]

what are the good weapons and classes?

[vocal tusk]

1. It was a very bad launch
2. I had a lot of fun, even with the many issues it had
3. 1 and 2 are able to co-exist
4. I hope the next game is a LOT better

[scenic junco]

I barely unlocked 1/3 of the weapons so idk what to go towards since most are challenge locked

[eager spire]

so you're telling me that launching badly and barely fucking functioning is just a part of Battlefield's identity and we should be fine with that?

[vocal tusk]

If you play infantry and want to kill other players - Assault or support (Falck is my favorite)

If you like to play vehicles, or kill vehicles - Engineer (Lis and Crawford are my favorites)

If you like to snipe, or use random abilities related to recon/spotting - Recon (Rao/Paik are my favorites)

Some of the best weapons include the PP29 (SMG), CZ-3 (SMG), the AK5C (AR), the M5A3(AR) or the BSV-M(DMR, but make sure to set to auto fire).

Best weapons aside, you're best served to unlock all attachments, and especially get extended mags for any weapon you use.

[orchid tusk]

maybe badly is simply an opinion

and barely functioning is not correct

[eager spire]

...nah that's a fact my guy, most of the guns literally did not work on launch.

literally only one gun was usable on launch.

Mouse input was broken, and it still is.

[orchid tusk]

my guy is not cool

please refrain

lol youre not right

[scenic junco]

svk is not the best dmr? saw a couple videos saying it was, I haven't used the bsv because of that statement

[eager spire]

bruh do you not remember the PP-29 meta that showed up because it was the only gun on launch that seemed to actually shoot where you were aiming?

[vocal tusk]

2042 wasnt ready to launch. There is simply no denying that fact. They basically remade the entire game, including ALL base game maps.

And the above comment is mostly true. There is a reason almost every player you encountered used the PKP or PP29 at launch. Those were the only weapons with non insane amounts of spread.

Its Ok to have liked or had a fun time at launch, but the game was in a pretty dire state.

[fervent rose]

yeah it was wildly fucked up how bad the guns were

anyone that excuses that shit just wants slop

[vocal tusk]

SVK is not a great all round weapon. Its mostly good if you play passive IMHO. But thats just my ipinion.

[reef cedar]

hey, i had tons of fun at launch :)!
and yeah. expect a low bar and be surprised when they achieve much higher, that's how it's been for about 15 or so years. could be 20

[maiden maple]

Just started but experienced anything I should know 💯?

[reef cedar]

have fun :)!

[vocal tusk]

You can unlock all weapon attachments and vehicle unlocks, as well as learn modes/maps against bots in the solo/co-op modes. Doing that is probably the best advise I could give a new player.

[fervent rose]

turn on "ads fov on" and see if you like the difference

[maiden maple]

Nice nice 💯

[scenic junco]

yeah, tends to suck when your actively moving and they trying to shit, not forgiving

[fervent rose]

and ya unlocking things vs bots is the way

theres A TON of grinding

[maiden maple]

The basics I know that but like is there skill base match making in this ?

[scenic junco]

the amount of times I saw them with 4-8 hp and living infuriates me

[eager spire]

nah, we're talking about industry professionals backed by more money than any of us will ever see in our lives, and they're charging full price, i think we need to start expecting better, otherwise things are never going to get better.

[maiden maple]

Did that it’s good

[vocal tusk]

Its just good to play against easy to kill bots while leveling and learnign the weapons. As well as learnign the map layouts/spawns, ETC

[fervent rose]

you're already like +10 over a regular bf player then

you're golden

[maiden maple]

Wats the best way to level up weapons

[fervent rose]

coop breakthrough

[scenic junco]

but for snipers is the first snipers really the best to use and the others are worse?

[reef cedar]

of course, everything requires balance. you can have a high bar, ill just have a low one, thats all, and that's fine

[scenic junco]

all the videos I saw said yep, best sniper

[fervent rose]

no

[vocal tusk]

There is no SBMM in Battlefield. The only think BF has is a start of round team ballancer.

[fervent rose]

i personally like the gol the most, its personal preference

dxr is the "easiest" because it has the highest velocity

[maiden maple]

Okay okay nice !🪂

[scenic junco]

well it just superised me all the videos I watched sait it was the best

[fervent rose]

and arguably the railgun sniper is the best sniper

[maiden maple]

I’m level 14 im vibing so far playin it a lil to much like cod though feel like I need to slow down 😂

[scenic junco]

going to try more weapons now, then try to figure out which to unlock attachments

[vocal tusk]

The best map for unlocking weapon attachments is Solo & Co-op Breakthrough on Redacted also. Or if you dont like redacted, do stranded. Both of those are infantry only.

[fervent rose]

you can get away with really fast playstyles once you learn the maps

2042's movement is fast

learn the slide bunny hop

[maiden maple]

Bet bet ! And yeah I need to get used to the movement and I should be fine ⭐️

[vocal tusk]

If you play fast and are semi-decent at getting kills, try Zain (Assault). Getting a kill with them instantly restarts HP regen

[fervent rose]

you can land any jump into a slide too. meaning omnidirectional sliding

[scenic junco]

funny thing happened in a match, a squad died to a team out the elevator, then one of our squads went up after them then wiped them the same way, enemy team did it to them and then we did it to them, but the difference is I planted bombs to cover our rear, well held that area wining the match, we were doing everything to survive

it was fun

we won by 11 points

[naive ember]

Ban elevators

[scenic junco]

got a team kill as soon as they left the elevator, one of them really wanted revenge, he want for a air bike and crashed through the glass roof to kill me, but I survived because a teamate is a medic and a damn good one

[vocal tusk]

Some "Battlefield" things that the game doesnt tell you about, is vehicles take different damage depending on where you hit them also. The least on the front, more damage on the sides and top, and the most damage for hits on the rear. This applies to all vehicles. For example, it takes 3 C5 charges to destroy a tank/AA from the top, front or sides, but only 2 on the rear.

Helicopters similarly take more damage when shooting them in the cockpit also

[hushed lark]

doesn't the TOR take the same on the front as on the sides?

[mental delta]

That's crazy

[fervent rose]

@maiden maple also imo play mackay or falck to learn the maps. either mackay for the grappling hook or falck for infinite heals + infinite ammo + infinite smoke

[vocal tusk]

They are a satire account

TLDR; dont mind them too much

[fervent rose]

dasher speaks ironically 95% of the time

when dealing with tk he seems genuine

[scenic junco]

question on the helicopter, can regular bullets do anything? I haven't tried shooting any vehicles because waste of bullets in my mind

[orchid tusk]

a supposedly "bad" BF is still imho, so much better than any other online fps available that therein lies the difference. maybe that changes next iteration, what with bbit, df, and whatever i find comparable. do you know any others? i'd like to try thats for sure. and again, I wasn't there day one, but about day 60. and lots of people have complained the whole entire time

[hushed lark]

it's usually not worth it. Maybe if it is really low and very close. I'm also pretty sure that the attack choppers don't take damage from regular bullets

[fervent rose]

you can kill the driver. but otherwise no. unless it's a vehicle 50 cal or something its a waste of time

[vocal tusk]

Yes, but not to all parts of helicopters, and not to all helicopters. I believe regular bullets only do damage to the Nightbird, stealth heli and pondkawk. Someone else can confirm this...or add more info it this is not correct

[scenic junco]

falk, no I know who constantly smokes the enitire buildings

[mental delta]

That's funny because when I told him to shut it many dudes in this exact same saloon played the moderators and tried giving moral lessons on how I should leave him alone and stop telling him to shut up while he's always here spamming some shitty troll

[hushed lark]

but vehicle guns (even the lmg or minigun in 7.62) can deal decent damage to helicopters

[mental delta]

Like dude just spams troll daily but In the bad dude for telling him to stfu lol

[vocal tusk]

He isnt really harming anyone TBH. So I dont really care about it haha

[fervent rose]

ya hes harmless

[orchid tusk]

yeah just block and move on

[mental delta]

Yes but at the same time it's really bothering to hear some idiot in denial telling this game had the best launch for years and shit

[vocal tusk]

Its not denial, its irony/satire

[mental delta]

Like trolling a few times is ok but spamming daily like he does...

[fervent rose]

i think dasher likes 2042 but he memes about it being the best

[orchid tusk]

is it though? is it denial or are you denying anothers opinion?

[mental delta]

Idk if he's being satiric tbh

I'm more confident about the mental thing

[vocal tusk]

We are all a bit mental here. 😛

[maiden maple]

I Hurd about that grabbing hook I need that !💯

[mental delta]

Saying BF2042 launch was good isn't an opinion it's being extremely dumb as shit

[fervent rose]

therefore the most likely situation is that he's being sarcastic

[gleaming oriole]

All I know is when the new battlefield comes out there better be one of these 3 things.

Remove PC/Console cross play entirely.

Give console Keyboard and mouse support to have a even playing field against PC players.

Or give an actual server browser back and allow servers to have input based matching so we can have keyboard only, controller only or mixed input servers.

[naive ember]

Whatever you say Mr smarty pants

[agile perch]

Haahha

[mental delta]

Not claiming I'm smart but I ain't mental to the point I claim BF2042 launch was good

[orchid tusk]

i seriously doubt any one of those will happen

[latent jasper]

"bf2042" and "good" in the same sentence 💔

[mental delta]

Why remove crossplay entirely ?

[mental delta]

That's the whole problem

[orchid tusk]

good is by defintion an adjective of opinion. it's not a debate.

and its not a vote

[eager spire]

It's a bad opinion that's misinformed.

[acoustic seal]

there is a point of comparison: the last two games in the same setting, bf3/4, which 2042 does not even touch in terms of content, mechanics, or polish

i would call that "objectively worse"

[latent jasper]

the futuristic route was lowk buns

i liked the modern setting

like

Afghan war setting

[mental delta]

It's most likely going to be some kind of BF2 or BF4 in terms of settings

[orchid tusk]

i don't agree on mechanics and i believe many would disagree on 4 being polished at launch. content i think i'd agree. although it's not that that easy because a main feature of 2042 is 128p for the first time

so the maps are larger. plus you have to consider the level of detail in the models (what a decade+ later) which takes more time, generally speaking, although ai will play a big role in that henceforth

[eager spire]

I think 2042 served as a good lesson.

More players does not make a better game.

now if they'll actually learn that lesson is another question entirely

[naive ember]

Yes it does, the devs did a bad job with 128p and seem to not care how bad it was

[eager spire]

ya'll hear somethin

[orchid tusk]

maybe they just disagree. i do.

[naive ember]

It was well done during s6 but after that everything went downhill

[hoary sentinel]

what about everything before that?

[eager spire]

everything before what

[hoary sentinel]

everything before s6

[eager spire]

everything before S6 was garbage

much like everything after S6 was garbage

[gleaming oriole]

Mouse and keyboard already has incredibly steep advantages over controller for one.

Two PC has a greater level of customization for settings than Console will ever have such as the ability to lower certain graphics settings to an extent so that visual cover such as bushes and high grass doesn't render in. Giving you a distinct advantage over console players that can't do that.

Cheaters. Console players pay for online and cheating will quite literally lose us far too much. PC players do not pay for online and there aren't and real penalties for cheating... Anytime PC gets added to any playerbase cheating always comes with that.

There isn't one answer. But overall PC has far too many unfair advantages over console players and the playerbases should be split.

[eager spire]

2042 literally has less recoil for controller players

what the fuck are you talking about

[acoustic seal]

mouse input is bugged to shit and a lot of the older dev console options dont do anything in this game lol

I LOVE FORCED TAA

[eager spire]

WOOO FORCED TAA

[still vault]

I won't disagree that PCs can have advantages. Consoles also have a few. But all of that doesn't really matter to me when I can play with my friends and have lobbies for more gamemodes prolonging the longevity of the game.

[orchid tusk]

crossplay being optional would be cool with me

[eager spire]

i mean

[orchid tusk]

but keyboard and mouse on console is just a weird one. dreamcast did it back in the day no problem but since then, no ones did it. why? tfik

[eager spire]

it is optional

[gleaming oriole]

And? Mouse and keyboard is still superior for recoil control and accuracy plus has absolutely not drift at all unlike controllers. The devs themselves refused the give console players keyboard support because it would be unfair if we turned off cross play.... So if it's unfair for me to use keyboard and mouse against controller users, why is it fair for PC players?

[eager spire]

but realistically if you turn it off you're not gonna find anything

because most people are not going to bother

[vital quail]

And the lobbies you find are going to be with some of the worst players tbh

[acoustic seal]

recoil control doesnt work in this game either, due to the recoil bug

[eager spire]

The devs themselves refused the give console players keyboard support because it would be unfair

source?

Also isn't keyboard support more of a job for the console makers

[vital quail]

I would like keyboard support for so many other games before shooters tbh

[gleaming oriole]

Yeah you're blocked. Lol anyone who asks for proof when you could Google this in 5 seconds isn't worth the time or effort of speaking to.

[mental delta]

I kinda agree but a game without cross-play would make it more difficult for everyone to find a match

They should definitely drop previous consoles though

[acoustic seal]

it wasn't an issue back when the games were good and/or when we had a server browser

[gleaming oriole]

This just flat out isnt true.

[gleaming oriole]

This. This is quite literally the first battlefield with console PC cross play. None of the other games had issues finding matches at all

[mental delta]

Sure then let's just turn off cross-play on BF2042 and see what happens

[eager spire]

I mean i did google that, I can't find where you got them saying they're not doing it because it would be unfair. I just got posts from around launch saying that they're not going to be supporting it on launch, but were looking into supporting it in the future. I am just asking for where you got that particular statement, since you seemed so sure about it.

[gleaming oriole]

That's because cross play is forced and Xbox one/PS4 and Series X/S and PS5 and PC have two completely different games that can't interact with each other at all. So yeah if you turn off cross play on current gen you can't find matches however the PS4/XB1 version is fully populated with no issues

[eager spire]

https://www.gamesradar.com/battlefield-2042-wont-have-keyboard-and-mouse-support-on-consoles-at-least-at-launch/ - October 1st, 2021
https://x.com/bravoINTEL/status/1443602569654374411 - September 30th, 2021
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/268695/20211129/battlefield-2042-mouse-and-keyboard.htm - November 29th, 2021

I literally cannot find any statement from the developer where they claimed that they would not be adding support for Keyboard/Mouse on console because it would be "unfair"

[mental delta]

Yes so they shouldn't get rid off cross-play

[eager spire]

All I can find is statements from around launch saying that they weren't able to add that on launch, and that they would be looking into putting it in in the future.

[gleaming oriole]

Yeah because that would add in the other console player base to new gens playerbase so the matching thing wouldn't be a problem... I don't understand why this is even an argument. You know how many battlefield games have had seperate player pools for PC and console that all thrived? Yet now the game will die if PC has to match with only PC players? Come on dude you don't even believe that

[eager spire]

it's crazy that this guy said that the devs said they wouldn't add keyboard/mouse support on consoles because it's "unfair", but won't actually provide a source for that statement when asked

instead he chooses to block me for asking

you'd think if it was findable within 5 seconds of googling, that he could just do that and then provide a link to the statement

but no

he won't do that

[gleaming oriole]

I would counter that cross play is actually hurting the game more than helping. Especially considering that old gen version without PC cross play has a higher playerbase.

[eager spire]

for some reason

Old gen version without PC crossplay has a higher playerbase

source?

do you have any proof to back up that statement at all

like that doesn't sound accurate at all but I wanna know where you're getting that information

@mental delta Does that seem realistic to you?

what is it with xbox players and being the biggest fucking weirdos

[gleaming oriole]

No you were blocked because you're clearly just a typical brainrot redditard.

You know how many people have asked for a source and when they were provided with one and proved wrong they literally still sat here arguing til they were blue in the face that they were still somehow right and judging by how angry you are that you were blocked only proves me right that you had no interest in a conversation and you were just looking for a fight so you were blocked.

[eager spire]

you didn't provide one.

That's the issue here.

in fact, you blocked me for even asking.

[still vault]

Or those older console just don't get new games that people can switch to

[acoustic seal]

consolium is known to the state of california to cause cancer

[eager spire]

ahh, true..

[fervent rose]

Attention: If you or a loved one has been diagnosed with Rolleritis you may to be entitled to financial compensation.

[eager spire]

like, I tried googling it, I found nothing like what you said, I couldn't find any proof of a developer statement saying that. I just found statements from before launch saying that it wouldn't be included in the game and that the developers would look into adding it in the future, which didn't end up happening.

But I didn't see any statements saying that they didn't do so because it would be "unfair".

But you seemed fairly certain that they did say that and you said it could be found within 5 seconds of googling

so i figured that you could provide a source for that claim if it's so easy to get

but you got pissed at me for even asking

so

[gleaming oriole]

Idk there's not a single answer or fix. All I know it that being absolutely beamed full auto by an SMG at 200 meters by a PC player isn't fun. Having a squad of PC players drop 150 kills each with zero deaths each is not fun. Dealing with cheaters is not fun. And the easiest fix to that is remove cross play

[fervent rose]

smg 200 meters lets see the footage

[eager spire]

You don't even have a source for your claim that old-gen BF2042 has a higher playerbase either.

Like you just say shit

and then get mad when people ask you for proof or any kind of elaboration.

[fervent rose]

ive also never had a squad of pc players that drop 100+ kills the avg player can barely hit 50+

[gleaming oriole]

Bro loves talking to himself doesn't he? He's been blocked for over 30 minutes and he's still trying to fight and argue with me. Lol

[dusty elm]

Imagine the game being so good on pc that every console player goes out & purchases a new pc just to play the game 🙂

[eager spire]

I mean I'm just trying to set the record straight on what's happening here

just for the sake of everyone else here.

[gleaming oriole]

That's not going to happen

[eager spire]

because you've made two completely unsubstantiated claims and then blocked me for having the audacity to ask for a source.

[dusty elm]

beleive me it can happen 🙂 I seen gamers lined up in stores itching

[gleaming oriole]

I don't think so. Even if you could get most unbiased gamers to switch there will always be the fanboys that will never switch. Not everyone plays console because of money. Some play because of convenience. Others play because they like chilling on the couch playing on a big ass TV. Other are like me that just don't wanna deal with hackers and cheaters and no amount of performance and graphics increases are going to make dealing with that worth it.

[dusty elm]

Casual gamers not the real gamers

[fervent rose]

when a breakthrough title on pc releases, people buy PCs

but its a rare case because now everything is multiplatform

but like, WoW absolutely drove pc sales

[gleaming oriole]

So you have to be a casual to not wanna deal with hackers and cheaters?

[mental delta]

What seems realistic I don't get it ?

[dusty elm]

Casual gamer that likes to hang out with friends on the couch

[gleaming oriole]

That's not what makes a casual gamer bro... Lol

[vital quail]

I mean how many people are going to buy a console to exclusively play gta 6...

[fervent rose]

a lot.

[eager spire]

does old-gen BF2042 having a higher playerbase than current gen 2042 seem realistic to you?

[dusty elm]

Not me because pc is way better than console

[mental delta]

Nope

It 200% doesn't

[dusty elm]

its like going from riding a horse to a donkey

[gleaming oriole]

I know people that do couch coop and stuff that have tourney wins under their belt. Sitting at a computer chair and desk giving yourself carpal tunnel doesn't make you hardcore.

[eager spire]

Doesn't to me either. Yet, they won't provide a source for that claim.

[vital quail]

Superiority complex type shit

[gleaming oriole]

Bro you can stop arguing with yourself lol. I'm not going to engage with you. You want a fight so damn bad lol that's why you're blocked.

[fervent rose]

its possible given how the install base for the older consoles is massive. but i'd need some numbers before i believed it

[mental delta]

I hope next game gets tank superiority

Like vroom vroom boom

[eager spire]

yeah but they won't provide any numbers.

[gleaming oriole]

Current gen consoles can download the old gen version and play with that playerbase. I know a lot of New gen players playing on old gen because of the PC cross play

[fervent rose]

those numbers simply arent public

[eager spire]

I mean all I wanted was a source, but you're not willing to give it.

[gleaming oriole]

That I do miss.. Tank and air superiority were great modes.

[gleaming oriole]

Because you just wanna fight and argue. So yeah. I'm not engaging with someone that's going to go out of their way to argue and be toxic.

[eager spire]

i mean i asked for a source for a claim that you made.

[vocal tusk]

There is no source, just drop it. This argument is making chat literally unusable 🤣

[eager spire]

Because what they said isn't true.

They're basing their argument around shit they made up.

[mental delta]

Yeah I hope next game got maps with tanks only as vehicles

[vocal tusk]

Yes, we all know that. Trying to make a random on the internet admit they lied or misinterpreted something is like getting blood from a stone. It won't happen

[gleaming oriole]

Right? Lol like the platform you play on doesn't make you better than anyone. Sure PC has better tools. It's common knowledge and has been since I was a kid that mouse and keyboard is the superior input device for shooters. I thought that was common sense.

[gleaming oriole]

There isn't any argument. They're the one going on and on about it

[eager spire]

you were trying to make an argument for removing crossplay entirely.

[gleaming oriole]

I can get behind that. On BF4 I used tanks nonstop

[vocal tusk]

PC has the advantage of allowing higher framerates. Higher framerates/screen hz = less latency. Which is an inherent advantage.

An amazing player on console would be a better player with higher fps and lower latency on pc

[gleaming oriole]

I don't really use vehicles much on 2042 because of how different they perform on PC than they do console. It's hard to compete against a jet that can turn on a dime or against a tank that can 180 it's turret in an instant when we as console players have to deal with the turret delay etc ...

[fervent rose]

lol you think pc players can move their hand fast when using tanks?

[latent jasper]

3 years of doom and suffering 💔

[fervent rose]

WRONG we get penalized

negative mouse accel in first person view is how it actually works, buddy

[gleaming oriole]

I know that. I was referring to what you play on making you better than someone as in you're more of a person than they are like looking down on someone else because they don't play on what you think they should

[vocal tusk]

Mouse has an advantage tho, especially with how fast turrets turn with recent updates. Even at max turn speed, you still turn pretty slow with a controller compared to mouse.

[latent jasper]

thats how tanks work

bro thinks he can flick shot w a 2 ton top

[fervent rose]

the game punishes you for flicking more than the "turning rate of the turret"

[latent jasper]

then.. turn the rate of the turret

thats what i do

[vital quail]

Mouse seems like it definitely has an advantage on gun turrets for vehicles

[fervent rose]

right, you have to move your hand slowly and smoothly

if you flick, your turret literally slows down

[latent jasper]

your turret always rotates the same speed. its gonna seem slow cause your cameras moving faster

[gleaming oriole]

They do. There's no delay or turret speed cap on PC. On console even with sensitivity turned all the way up our turret speed is capped at a certain point.

[fervent rose]

you dont understand. the camera slows down

you clearly dont get it

[eager spire]

there's no delay or turret speed cap on PC

yes there is

[latent jasper]

why u keep changing the story

first its the turret speed then its the camera speed

[fervent rose]

i didnt change the story, you dont understand the game mechanics

[latent jasper]

you literally changed from turret speed to camera speed

[gleaming oriole]

Bro we aren't arguing this when it's true. I have a friend on PC I play with every single day and his turret turning speed is night and day faster than mine with my sensitivity at max. The difference is 100% a thing.

[fervent rose]

i'm talking about the MOUSE WHICH CONTROLS THE CAMERA. The camera is slowed down when you try to exceed the speed of the turret turn rate and it depends on how fast or slow you move your hand. If you flick, your camera becomes stuck in the mud. If you cannot understand at this point, fuck off

[gleaming oriole]

I literally see him 180 his tank turret three to four times faster than I can turn 90 degrees with max sensitivity on a controller.

[latent jasper]

then state that at first you clown

[gleaming oriole]

Bros are still arguing down here that this isn't a thing lol

[latent jasper]

stop changing your wording just to confuse everyone

[fervent rose]

elaborating isnt changing the story

you're not intelligent, dont call other people clowns

[latent jasper]

oh u certainly aint either

[fervent rose]

funny how he acknowledged that hes dumb

👍

[gleaming oriole]

His point is still irrelevant. yeah the camera slows down in first person if you try to flick but they point they aren't talking about is that it doesn't happen in third person. You can switch to third flick a 180 and switch back to first with little to no extra effort. So yes keyboard and mouse has massive advantage over controller users in vehicles. This isn't even a debate

[latent jasper]

theres a distinct difference between intellegent and dumb

[fervent rose]

lmao, we have to do multiple steps with multiple inputs, but it is no extra effort

[latent jasper]

seeing you dont know that different says a lot abt u

also why so aggressive

is bro mad

[fervent rose]

"theres a distinct difference between intellegent and dumb" i want this framed

[gleaming oriole]

Clicking a single key twice to switch to third then back to first takes zero effort bro.

[fervent rose]

lil bro doesnt understand that we had a major black screen bug for the majority of 2042's life cycle

[gleaming oriole]

I'm absolutely garbage on M&K and I can do that effortlessly. You must be hot trash if double tapping a key is too much work for you.

[latent jasper]

literally irrelevant

[orchid tusk]

back in the day.....i thought there was no way i could get good on q3arena with a controller, but i did. never tried railing anyone but i could melee the snot out of more than many

[fervent rose]

its entirely relevant because it only happened when you switch your tank perspective quickly, the thing he was talking about

[orchid tusk]

which is why i've yearned for a left hand controller to go with a mouse for so long. lol

[latent jasper]

is it currently happening?

[orchid tusk]

but my 16 button mouse is helpful

[fervent rose]

yeah, they fixed it after like 2 and a half years, im very proud of them

its still in bfv

[latent jasper]

i was playing bfv not long ago and never had that issue

[gleaming oriole]

No it was patched in the very first season. He's using bugs that haven't been an issue for literal years the defend keyboard and mouse PC players against console players

[fervent rose]

that's a fucking lie

it was not fixed in season 1

[gleaming oriole]

Lol ok bro. Cry harder. Again I play with a friend on PC. I know what has and hasn't been an issue. This is exactly why I've stayed away from this discord. So many angry and salty PC players that don't want their unfair advantages taken away from them.

[fervent rose]

It was happening to me on spearhead, a season 3 map

stop lying

"cry harder" you're a liar

[eager spire]

"unfair advantages" yeah okay dude

[latent jasper]

whar pos in an f35 js shoved 105s in their 30mm

[gleaming oriole]

This alone is why cross play should be removed. Let all these PC players with a superiority complex stew in their own private little cesspool

[eager spire]

bro you are literally just saying shit that isn't true what do you mean

[fervent rose]

i literally want pc only lobbies. i have said this many times that crossplay has made my experience worse. you are delusional though and reality doesnt matter

[gleaming oriole]

If you think Keyboard and mouse doesn't have an advantage over controller you're in straight up denial and you're probably absolute trash. You're probably one of those crybabies that acts like the most menial amount of aim assist is the equivalent of an aimbot.

[gleaming oriole]

Then why are you arguing against it now? Lol

[fervent rose]

i took issue with you making up shit

[latent jasper]

GOD i hate the f35

[fervent rose]

which you did

[latent jasper]

i literally cant even see it

[fervent rose]

you said we could flick in tanks and we cannot

[latent jasper]

tailed bro for 3 seconds and he vanished

[fervent rose]

dont lie about shit and i wont argue with you

[eager spire]

Maybe that's true in Battlefield. CoD aim assist is stupid though and I won't defend it. My main issues with you are you making claims and then getting upset when people ask for a source.

However, I will still say that mouse input does not function correctly in 2042.

So whatever advantage it has is lessened by that fact alone.

Controller literally has less recoil in 2042, that is a proven mechanic of the game.

[fervent rose]

it's not an even playing field and it leads to things like that, 33% less recoil by plugging in a controller

[gleaming oriole]

You can tho...lol I literally see PC players do it EVERY SINGLE TIME I PLAY

[fervent rose]

i have 33% more recoil on dmrs compared to a roller player

its annoying i just want an even game

[fervent rose]

i explained in detail why that literally cannot happen. they are not bf3/bf4 tank mechanics anymore.

you could do what you're talking about in the older games

[gleaming oriole]

We aren't talking about CoD. We are talking about Battlefield. Battlefield has always had very very minimal aim assist. CoD aim assist is borderline cheating... But again it wouldn't be needed if PC/Console cross play wasn't a thing. I'm all for PC/Console cross play for any and every MMO or PvE game. Any PvP shooter should be Console Vs Console and PC vs PC

[eager spire]

I donno. I just wanna know where you got the whole "they're not putting KBM support on consoles cause it would be unfair" bit. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gleaming oriole]

Exactly why I want sperate player pools for PC and console players. Different input devices require different balance for weapons. What makes a weapon good or bad on PC won't be the same on console a vast majority of the time

[latent jasper]

i hate tanks now

MY SHOT RICHOCHET

never once has my enemies shot richochet

[gleaming oriole]

It wasn't said in some interview. It was said on one of their streams when people were asking why we didn't get native keyboard and mouse support. They responded it wasn't given to us do to us being able to turn off cross play and would give us an unfair advantage against console players that couldn't afford a good mouse and keyboard. That's why I'm so against PC console cross play.... Because if it's not fair for me to use it then why is it fair for no life basement dwelling PC players to absolutely farm us with the same input device you refused to give us?

[vital quail]

Pretty sure the only thing that can ricochet in 2042 is off of dozer lol

[eager spire]

So, you lied to me, you said it would take like 5 seconds of googling to find, but you can't even tell me what interview that's from?

[latent jasper]

the blue hitmarker bs

same thimg happened when i domed a wildcat w an rpg

[vital quail]

That is the trophy system

Aps

[gleaming oriole]

It wasn't from an interview. I just said that lol. And again you proved my point. You're just trying to fight. Piss off and go argue with yourself.

[latent jasper]

what clown thought it was a good idea to give a wildcat a trophy system

[eager spire]

You can't even tell me what stream this was said in, and you're gonna be mad at me for asking for a source on that?

You fucking kidding me?

[fervent rose]

yeah why would an anti air vehicle have any defenses, crazy

[gleaming oriole]

I called it. If I gave any kind of elaboration or proof they would just continue to argue.... Thank you for proving you're the dumb redditard I initially thought you were. Lol

[latent jasper]

FINALLY GOT THE BRAT

w a tank

counter this 105

[orchid tusk]

what vehicle is the wildcat based on?

[latent jasper]

are u aware what the wildcat is capable of

[latent jasper]

ebrc jaguar

[eager spire]

you didn't give any proof! You just said it was said on "one of their streams"! You can't even tell me which stream it was, or provide a clip of them saying that!

[naive ember]

There's only a handful of them tbf, they can get outsmarted

[mental gate]

anyone else not get the vector skin for Irish when signing up for new letter?

[young junco]

Did they removed the tornadoes and sandstorm in hourglass?

[orchid tusk]

sandstorm is still there for sure. i cant remember on the twisters

[void gorge]

I've been playing this game since it was released and as far as I remember there's never been a tornado on the hourglass map, but there is a Sandstorm which, when it happens, is something that really immerses the game.

[lilac pecan]

Im finding guys in my clan -MIND-
Need for join:
3+ Human Kd
2+ Kpm

[orchid tusk]

it doesn't immerse the game. it makes the game immersive. or it immerses the player in the game.

[glass imp]

No, there are tornadoes on Hourglass. Heck, the gameplay trailer released in June 2021 shows a tornado on Hourglass.

[orchid tusk]

im taking it upon my self to help try and help you understand English a bit. lol

[naive ember]

What's your kd?

[lilac pecan]

6.9

[naive ember]

[lilac pecan]

My mate 5.5

[young junco]

Yeah not just in hourglass, orbital and manifest too I don’t see tornadoes anymore and in orbital it’s always sunny

[naive ember]

Conquest stat padding?

[tropic berry]

My dear TKlingo, man moth the legend, there is indeed a tornado on the glass of the hour.

[orchid tusk]

yeah my clan needs people that only stay on the boats in manifest. come join now

[lilac pecan]

We play more breakthrough

@naive ember

[naive ember]

If someone plays mostly BT kd requirements should be lower, here in NA the best players play BT all day

[lilac pecan]

Im eu

[naive ember]

Yeah

[lilac pecan]

Why lower bro

Its not high requirements

[naive ember]

3 kd isn't high?

[lilac pecan]

No

[naive ember]

Someone can play conquest all day and stat pad vs new players

[lilac pecan]

I play vs all

Idc

[naive ember]

That's the 1st game mode most new players go to

[lilac pecan]

I play other mode

I said before

[naive ember]

Other game mode player should have 2 kd requirement

Conquest player 5+ kd

[lilac pecan]

I have a lot 2kd guys

[naive ember]

So why was kd requirement 3?

[lilac pecan]

So if i have in my mode 6.9 its 15 in conquest?

999iq

[naive ember]

[lilac pecan]

Need the best guys

For destroying

[naive ember]

The best guys are NA only

[lilac pecan]

Why na

[naive ember]

Why not

[lilac pecan]

In all games Eu on top

Why na

[naive ember]

We have the highest kd

[lilac pecan]

So maybe in na play bad players

And you farm kd

[naive ember]

Bad players in EU

[lilac pecan]

Nono

[naive ember]

Good players NA

[lilac pecan]

Fly to eu

I will show duo destroy

[naive ember]

Ok tomorrow

[lilac pecan]

[void gorge]

That's what I meant but the translator probably translated it wrong and there's also that effect on the Orbital map when the rocket explodes, it's one of the best effects they've ever put in the game because you can even see the shock wave running across the map

[void gorge]

It's because of all the times I've played on this map I've never seen a tornado because it already has the Sandstorm effect and if there is a tornado it makes the game very heavy.

[glass imp]

Well, I can assure you there is a tornado on Hourglass, but it’s random whether you get it or not.

[void gorge]

You who like to belittle others because of kd Then apparently someone who is bigger than you appeared

[orchid tusk]

what translator are you using and what is the language you are translating from?

[naive ember]

Yeah that's what we call a stat padder here in NA

[void gorge]

Please explain to me what "tklingo" means, "Mothman" and what you mean by "there is indeed a tornado in the window"

[void gorge]

Google's own and from Portuguese to English

[naive ember]

English? Are you sure about that?

[void gorge]

In fact, you were surpassed and I want to see you making fun of this person who, if I'm not bad at math, has more than twice your kd

[glass imp]

woah woah there tad

[naive ember]

Always a possibility of lying about it but you never think outside the box

[tropic berry]

I am confused, can you rephrase?

[obsidian elk]

To those of you who have tried it: How does Delta Force compare to BF2042? Better? Worse? Equal?

[fervent rose]

it's hard to say because there were loads of bots in the test, which they have promised to remove. i need to play the maps with 100% real players before i'd say its better or worse

It plays a lot like BF3 with cod gunplay

[eager spire]

It has functional mouse input so that's a benefit over 2042

[fervent rose]

yes, the mouse does indeed work

major props to DF

[obsidian elk]

Never had issues with my high precision gaming mouse in BF2042

[naive ember]

2042 is goated

[fervent rose]

but as a general answer DF has a ton of potential. it's a lot of fun.

and at the high cost of 0 dollars i will be playing it

[naive ember]

[naive ember]

My clan requires a 10+ human kd

[fresh lintel]

The only time I consider a KD/KPM padded is when they have a 12m as their #1 weapon

And even then KD is kinda not as relevant as KPM anyways.

KD alone with no KPM screams "I just snipe/Tank/Have Medics revive me 24/7"

A decent KD (i'll say 2) + a 1.5+ KPM tells me they're actually competent at the game, assuming they don't have a 12m as number 1

[naive ember]

Someone can always follow you around and steal your kills

[eager spire]

ToxicDasher, PSN, 486 hours playtime over 1,477 matches, KPM of 0.89, human K/D of 2.19, with a 2.27 K/D overall.

You wouldn't be accepted into your own clan, buddy.

[fresh lintel]

.089? Yikes.

[naive ember]

What's wrong with that?

[fresh lintel]

No wonder he didn't bring up his stats when they were both after me the other day 🤭

[naive ember]

Most of my matches are against good players, I don't play losers like you guys

[fresh lintel]

0.89 KPM is.. Bad. You're BARELY killing 1 person per minute.

[naive ember]

Kpm means nothing dude

[eager spire]

You play breakthrough pubs exclusively.

[fresh lintel]

You would think that playing against the best players you'd learn to adapt against them.

[eager spire]

you're not playing good players.

[naive ember]

BT is competitive unlike the other game modes

[fresh lintel]

KPM means alot to people who are actually good at Battlefield.

[eager spire]

you're barely competing.

[orchid tusk]

they should make a robust system for clan matches. full on 32x32 and 64x64 etc. man that would be sweet. clans teaming up etc. ahhh the good ol days

[fresh lintel]

Like dude i'm killing 2 people per minute with a 3KD.

3+ KD even.

[orchid tusk]

cant do very easily nowadays but I guess it wouldn't be impossible. just not as good as the good ol days

[naive ember]

Keep telling yourself that, you think highly of stats that mean absolutely nothing it's actually pathetic

[eager spire]

Even me with 3.8 hours of playtime on 2042 on a shit laptop during a free weekend can manage a 1.11 KPM.

[naive ember]

Cool want a trophy?

[orchid tusk]

i was #1 in the world at one time on csports.net

[fresh lintel]

Like on Planetside 2 I managed a 0.8 KPM with sub 30 FPS.

[orchid tusk]

lol

[eager spire]

yes, i want a trophy for having a higher KPM than you.

[orchid tusk]

but true

[fresh lintel]

So theres SOME excuse for my bad stats.

But in 2042? Lookie I got a solid 2 KPM.

[naive ember]

I played fps for decades, kpm never mattered

[sullen violet]

K/D isn't important in battlefield, idk how many of my deaths is example redeploy and for fun 🤷

[eager spire]

you played FPS for decades and you can only manage a 2 K/D?

[orchid tusk]

i only play redacted with heavy armor on