#battlefield-2042

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arctic grove
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im srry

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cant be funny today without having a hate mob going after u

hoary sentinel
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cant be funny because of the woke smh my head

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also im really only suggesting not taking tk's advice cause he has a history with getting in trouble via @'ing moderators needlessly, don't want it to be your problem too

void gorge
# arctic grove im srry

In fact, I don't think you need to "blame" yourself so much because freedom of expression is something that everyone should have and if there isn't even a minimum of that, then the problem is in the place and not in you

hoary sentinel
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he just said srry he didnt blame himself frogconcern

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but a good thing to keep in mind is that freedom of expression is not freedom of consequence

vital quail
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Being the one to say they need to keep the server organized is hilarious

hoary sentinel
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afaik they didnt even change anything

vital quail
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Just that it's coming from HIM

chilly jacinth
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mod mail got replaced with support desk

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same thing basically

hoary sentinel
void gorge
void gorge
naive ember
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Why does it matter bud?

teal trench
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Any groups with mics I can join

minor stream
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Am I tripping or is that a Drake profile pic

orchid tusk
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uh, i'm saying yes it is

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cheeseburger cheeseburger cheeseburger

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maybe doesn't pass the smell test

wooden mica
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Planes seem so fragile

orchid tusk
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thats one way of looking at it

minor stream
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I’ve never seen him say anything in chat, after that pic he proceeded to sit in his tank in the the very back edge of attacking team sector not playing the game so I had no chance to blow him up. One of the most ridiculous behaviors I have ever seen in my entire life.

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I proceeded to tell his team to report him for gameplay sabotage since he was sitting in their only tank in the back of the sector not playing the game, and then he left. I’d encourage anyone who plays Breakthrough to report LA_BaLLr if you see him sabotaging his team by not playing the tank so he can do his zero deaths challenge B.s. ~ in addition, he somehow has like 4,000 hours in this game

orchid tusk
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yeah good luck with that

minor stream
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EA doesn’t have a moderation problem it’s very difficult to hire someone to monitor like 4 servers on Battlefield V for cheaters

orchid tusk
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just sayin' holmes...but i'll keep an eye out for la-ballr

minor stream
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I was always amazed they could not get a 2 person moderation team to just occasionally peek at BF V servers and stop the crazy hacking and doxxing

orchid tusk
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2 person? yeah thats about the truth eh?

minor stream
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1 person could take peeks and solve that or just even monitor the incoming reports a bit faster than 48 hours lmao

weak vector
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Oh gosh, after playing Delta Force, I sadly gotta admit that 2042 has some good things as an advantage over it lol

minor stream
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I think they should have done Unreal 5 but they want to do Delta Force on the PS4 and old Xbox which is kinda yeesh

weak vector
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2042 allows you to customize your outfit and loadout in-game, the animations are SO MUCH BETTER, movement is significantly better, and at least 2042 has more destruction, even though it's really not a lot to begin with

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Moving around and vaulting over simple shit in 2042 feels so much more satisfying, that it makes Delta Force's animators look like they're a bunch of interns

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sure I still get stuck on things in 2042, but not nearly to the extent that I experienced in Delta Force

minor stream
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Honestly I’m expecting them to at least partially hit the nail on the head for Battlefield 2025 so I don’t have to try Delta Force

weak vector
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I doubt it. All trust has been lost. They have to regain so much of it back that I don't think the DICE team can achieve that. Not trying to be rude

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But at the very least it might be better than Delta Force lol

minor stream
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I understand that but we’ll see in about 12 months it could be mostly fine release

weak vector
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I hope so. I want to enjoy Battlefield again. I haven't felt satisfied with the BF series since BF1, and that's almost a 10 year old game at this point. 10 years is too long to wait for an amazing game

minor stream
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I’m almost on same page as you but maps and variety like more vehicles or boat stuff like BF1 would honestly “fix” 2042 for me at this point I like it a lot

weak vector
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I hope some of the devs try out Delta Force for good ideas to implement in-game. For example, Delta Force allows you to see IN-GAME WEAPON STATS

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Want to see what a bullet pattern would be if you stick an attachment? Delta force! Want to see handling such as ADS, sway, sprint out time, etc? Delta Force

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the next BF game would be elevated simply just having this REALLY cool feature

acoustic seal
minor stream
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True

weak vector
acoustic seal
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and now you know what delta force potentially has

weak vector
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that implication didn't make sense but okay lol

acoustic seal
fervent rose
acoustic seal
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more content treadmill stuff does not fix the fundamental gameplay problems like the gunplay, explosive spam, etc

weak vector
fervent rose
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DF also has working mouse input

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a wild technical achievement

weak vector
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the customization is basically COD's gunsmith but on steroids

fervent rose
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it's better than that garbage

weak vector
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My friend spent hours on it because he enjoyed it so much in the DF demo

fervent rose
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it's a tarkov gunbuilder turned casual and its great

weak vector
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If battlefield devs implemented that as well, that would be great. They won't, though

fervent rose
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the extraction mode is what dice wishes HZ could have been

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hz is so barebones its crazy

vital quail
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Seems like there needs to be a gun build simulator game like the pc building simulator

weak vector
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I'd actually like that. Then have the ability to share builds and let people copy them with a code, just like Delta Force

fervent rose
orchid tusk
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sounds alright. not my cup of tea really but wouldnt necessarily be a bad addition

vital quail
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Or just those phone games that were popular in 2010 that let you shoot guns

weak vector
next onyx
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Recon is pretty busted.

weak vector
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usually when I see people dislike recons, it's because recons in this game just camp, rather than using their kit effectively

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I am a very aggressive recon and I push like crazy MikaXD

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I main medic, but it's unenjoyable for me because people can't seem to FUCKING WAIT when I approach them

vital quail
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Bruh 90% of me crying in this server is because of how recons are useless

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I enjoy this game (yeah crazy!!!111) but the players are way too stupid

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I lose all motivation to play when I join a match and any squad member is recon

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Automatic 3 person squad

orchid tusk
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the whole squad thing is kinda bad in reality

vital quail
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If I'm running in between flags and I see a recon join my squad, I'm immediately stopping and removing them

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Idc if I die

orchid tusk
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ive said this over and over..it needs to be optional

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but i digress

vital quail
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And as I've also stated, I would add boris to my name but probably won't fit

orchid tusk
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i like all the specialists and all the classes but the players are way to full of themselves

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on average in my exp

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but its a stress reliever i guess so whatever

weak vector
orchid tusk
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i mean i cant imagine the stress

weak vector
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then if I see that I'm near an objective, I stay still so people can spawn on me

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I also play Blasco way too damn much

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because fuck your minimaps

orchid tusk
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im really gonna miss the specialists and their unique gadgets

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it was a cool changeup to me

weak vector
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I'm not. GOOD RIDDANCE. At least they were brave enough to try something new and fail it

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not a lot of studios take risks these days

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it was a stupid, calculated risk though xD

vital quail
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I mean i have like 1k hours on bo4 and 500 on bo3 so I've never really cared about them

orchid tusk
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critical failure sure, but overall? not so entirely sure. if they just made bf 2,3,4 over and over that might be what 'the people" most deserve

weak vector
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it's just one of many things they failed

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I'm gonna miss the memes of people climbing up walls with vehicles though

orchid tusk
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they could always do 2042 type experiments on the side if the mainline 2,3,4 ones did well enough to fund such i guess

weak vector
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This is probably going to be their last battlefield if they fail. By last, I mean the one that's coming out soon. Series is gonna die if they repeat what they did

orchid tusk
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it was one of the best selling games of the year it came out, no?

weak vector
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Lol

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It failed so badly that they did not want to disclose sales numbers during their earnings call

pliant bluff
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ඞ

orchid tusk
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i think maybe you're confusing expectations with the reality that it was one of the best selling games of the year when it was released according to independent sources

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the accuracy of which of course can be debated

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how many people subscribe to gamepass?

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look friend, they may indeed choose to kill it off, or more likely, give it a rest, if they so desire, but I think the player counts are more than enough to justify continuing development of the franchise

pliant bluff
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I think bf2042 was worth the 6 or so dollars I paid for it leo

weak vector
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I think you missed my point. I meant if they failed the NEXT one by repeating the mistakes of THIS battlefield, they won't be able to continue the series

orchid tusk
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because the servers will be dead? that would indeed, be surprising

weak vector
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you're twisting it quite a bit, buddy. If they flop on sales, they wouldn't make back the development costs. Try to think a little

orchid tusk
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so you think they didn't make back development costs in their calculations?

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with this entry

weak vector
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Nope, unless they show me their sales numbers

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this conversation is probably getting no where at this rate. You don't seem to be understanding where I'm getting at.
As angry as I am, I want the next game to succeed, but I'm just hoping they do not repeat mistakes that screw the game over to the point where it's deja vu again

naive ember
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Battlefield won't die they will just make another one

orchid tusk
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well, i think gamepass is driving the boat mostly for one, so player count and gameplay hours is gonna increasingly be what matters. that and microtransactions in addition. i think actual steam sales and physical sales are going to continue to decrease in the middle term run

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And you don't come across as angry at all. You just have strong opinions on Battlefield. Nothing wrong with that.

weak vector
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physical yes, but steam sales probably not. Most people who are already invested in the Origin / EA ecosystem are less likely to swap to another platform

weak vector
orchid tusk
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is eaplay included in gamepass only on pc? or is that on xbox too?

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i mean eaplay plus or whatever its called. the subscriber version where you get to play all the ea games (basic versions)

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for no addt'l. cost

weak vector
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I'm not sure what it's called on other platforms D:

robust ether
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Is it still called Origin or did they change that 😭 i forgot

orchid tusk
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ok so it looks like you only get it on console if you get the gamepass ultimate

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yeah Origin is legacy. I don't think it even starts up now. At least on Windows 11.

weak vector
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or just EA for short for the app

acoustic seal
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bf players are fucking clueless

robust ether
orchid tusk
minor stream
vagrant saffron
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My apologies.

I may have been AFK.
I intent and usually notify when going Away From Keyboard.
When I mention I will be listening I often forget my headset gets disconnects/disrupted in the kitchen on when connected to some devices.

I intent to keep making myself aware of my *upcoming headset listening interruptions.
Also more often will I take the dare and ask if folks with in a channel mind to join squad 11/12 for double squad space among other.
*Memory and mental processing limitations related.

I also join squad 11/12 due to planning to stream and record nearly everything I do to TTV, YT, FcBk, BF Dscrd and many more,.. Thus intent to use the two larger channels for streaming while playing with 4(up to 7) and have 4(down to 1) Discord Listeners while I stream.

Also I have A***** a**** o***** so a direct one to one question including the words directly asking to make room for others(... Pls leave!) is the most effective with me, suggestive comms very often result in no response due to not being processed by my brain.
*Info to be placed here and * obfusicated info is available in DM.

My apoligies for the inconviences, I will keep working on myself and conduct.
I hope I did not completely ruin your experience on BF Dscrd and that of the participants of the time.

I noticed it today and feld the urge to answer despite the long time since it has occurred.

Feel free to record and report, in most cases that is the most effective strategy.
With nVidia one can save the last 15Sec to 20Min with nothing more then a key combination @GeforceNow.
If I remember correctly it only takes a load on GPU.
All one requires is audio and visuals of Discord so they got the required proof and can deal with user/player in question (and archive afterwards).

lavish patrol
naive ember
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What? We are talking EA here man

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Madden has been trash and failed for over a decade

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Still under EA

acoustic seal
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there are still a massive swath of people who think dice can do no wrong because they made bf3 13 years ago

lavish patrol
acoustic seal
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and now we also have the bf1 simps who will buy and play a game based on graphics alone

vital quail
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Bro responded almost 3 years later wtf

lavish patrol
tawny carbon
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Just like Ubisoft. The only own like 10% of the company. Mainly for mobile games and sum other game related stuff.

vocal tusk
vital quail
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Weird stuff

wise heath
wise heath
weak vector
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I thought of using SMGs but they suck in this game

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feels like I'm shooting nerf darts at people

wise heath
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If you get gamepass ultimate

wise heath
wise heath
wise heath
arctic grove
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Anyone else got the issue of their guns vanishing and cars

weak vector
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really useless items

wise heath
wise heath
weak vector
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Oh. I forgot them anyway lol

wise heath
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Glad they don’t one shot headshot tho

vital quail
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Svk is better than the other dmrs lol

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2 shot to 100m

weak vector
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I guess I only don't like it because it's at lvl 1 and therefore didn't feel good

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I do pretty well with the AS Val, anyway

wise heath
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As val very good

weak vector
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But now, maybe I should consider SVK..unless you have a good reason for me not to lol

lavish patrol
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As val can be cracked at times

arctic grove
# wise heath Am sorry, no

I see, it happens rarely,all i gotta do is restart the game but idk why it was happening to begin with-

lavish patrol
weak vector
vital quail
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The only downside of the svk is the ammo, pretty much need a medic around always or play one

lavish patrol
weak vector
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I wish I could see it that way. I hate it, so I don't want to even see it lol

fervent rose
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rm68 is unique looking for sure

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its a cool suppressor

lavish patrol
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Have you seen Garand Thumb's video on it? Thing has no recoil.

weak vector
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oh he made a video on it? I didn't see it yet

lavish patrol
weak vector
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the suppressor is...actually the reason why I hate it

lavish patrol
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Look up Garand Thumb RM277

weak vector
fervent rose
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but i see why the us military chose the sig over it lol

lavish patrol
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Biggest reason why they didn't choose it because they never wanted a bullpup in the first place

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You want a weapon that your soldiers will feel familiar with

fervent rose
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definitely, it didnt bring enough to the table to change to bullpups

lavish patrol
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It's a pragmatic decision that even I have to agree with

fervent rose
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lots of the countries with bullpups are switching to hk416 too

lavish patrol
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Because the 416 just checks off so many boxes

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It's also the gun that killed Bin Laden so that's a plus

weak vector
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My friend says the 416 is just a super over engineered M4, which is why they like it

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I donno much about guns though, don't quote me

fervent rose
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i'm no expert either, but HK makes solid guns

lavish patrol
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It's an AR with a different action system, that's all.

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Nothing over engineered about that.

fervent rose
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of the pistols ive shot HK are top tier

lavish patrol
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HK is hellishly pricey but solid in quality

weak vector
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I like it in Battlefield so I guess that's enough for now lol

lavish patrol
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The one gun that breaks my heart is the ACR... it had so much potential but the company that made it went under.

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And as for the MCX Spear... AKA the M5A3... I'd choose the Scar because it's cheaper.

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That is so weird to say

weak vector
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I kinda don't like how it comes with a nade launcher I can't swap out

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Plus the nade launcher is really useless in game...

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Direct hits are rather tricky to land, and indirect hits just barely scrape an enemy

lavish patrol
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Yeah the nade launcher is uh... I can't remember the last time I used it. I probably will because I wanna unlock the AK5C.

weak vector
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I don't remember where I got this, but I think on one of the events, I got the "Grave Reminder" skin that looks kinda neat

lavish patrol
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I actually got to hold the MCX Spear/M5A3 IRL... It's fucking heavy.

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Like 9-10 pounds... heavier than the SCAR 17

weak vector
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you can use it as a replacement for lifting weights at the gym

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Also am I just imagining things, or is the RPT-31 pretty good? I'm getting so many kills with it compared to every other LMG

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Oh apparently it's called the RPL-20 irl. I hate these fake gun names

lavish patrol
fervent rose
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its like rm68 vs scar, both are excellent in 2042

weak vector
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I hope they get licensing to have real gun names in the next battlefield

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poor multi billion dollar company can't get licensing these days?

lavish patrol
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Licensing has been a bitch to do these days

wise heath
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sad

lavish patrol
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That and California laws

wise heath
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Sounds awful over there

lavish patrol
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Naming them by their real designations can be seen as "advertising" for the guns

fervent rose
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i dont really care as long as they still model real guns

lavish patrol
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RM68 is technically not an incorrect name

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Because it fires a 6.8mm round

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Which is also .277 caliber

indigo patio
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it fires a packet prioritized by input device, platform, and rank

wise heath
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heh

weak vector
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Is the MK-4 a good gun or nah?

wise heath
weak vector
weak vector
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I've never seen a single player use it in-game

pine roost
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It’s a niche gun, definitely fun

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I’d rather use any other sniper but it’s worth having a play around with

wise heath
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Heard people it’s a hitscan sniper but idk

weak vector
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what's everyone favorite gun and why? I kinda want to try something different

wise heath
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I’ve maybe seen it once since season 3

wise heath
fervent rose
wise heath
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for pistols? mp28

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I like using it as a mini dmr

weak vector
wise heath
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Oh definitely

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most guns outmatch it close range but I like getting ranged kills with it

fervent rose
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ak's damage scaling is dumb next to the scar

wise heath
fervent rose
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dunno why it never got a tiny buff

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mine was mp9 but dice triple nerfed it to mediocre status

wise heath
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sad

weak vector
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I like the AS Val a lot, but I'm at a pretty big disadvantage medium range on that thing

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Unless it's against a camper who stays still

wise heath
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As val was one of the few guns where I actively changed my barrels and ammo

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I got some kills extended barrel and some ammo type

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medium ranged

weak vector
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hmm I didn't do that. I should

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what did you use for the grip?

fervent rose
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yeah it depends how far away they are, short barrel is generally good but if you are trying to contest a sniper you might want a barrel swap

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long barrel increases velocity

weak vector
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I'll try that. I had issues with projectile speed so med range was tough. People were dodging my bullets

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I use the subsonic ammo too

wise heath
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I think that small grip for the longer ranges

wise heath
weak vector
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sadly yeah D:

fervent rose
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use the highpower for bsvm unless you're doing an smg build

wise heath
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I don’t really bother with the ammo types..

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just whichever has an extended version

weak vector
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but what about my minimap? I'm gonna be revealed if I use regular high power lol

fervent rose
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it's subsonic highpower

wise heath
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The asval is always suppressed

fervent rose
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they're all subsonic ammo bsvm is a bs gun lol

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it's been nerfed a lot thankfully it was a top 3 most busted gun of all bf history on launch

weak vector
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well one of them does not say it's subsonic in the menu

frozen loom
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Do subsonic rounds do anything anymore?

fervent rose
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idk.

wise heath
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And match it with a wrapped suppressor, it’s like a heavy suppressor

frozen loom
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Didn't they remove mini-map buff subsonics had?

wise heath
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It was the only reason to use them

fervent rose
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they made multiple changes to them

frozen loom
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Well, that and the hit direction indicator that it had they removed too I think.

weak vector
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the fuck

frozen loom
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Which was the reason I used it in the first place.

weak vector
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why not just remove the ammo completely from the game, if they're going to make it that useless

wise heath
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Watching video

frozen loom
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All it does now is dampen the sound I think.

fervent rose
frozen loom
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And weaken your damage.

fervent rose
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its very curious

weak vector
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if it dampens the sound then I think that's still useful

wise heath
frozen loom
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I think it dampens the sound like the suppressor, doesn't it?

fervent rose
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it might also have no "flash"

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i cant remember

fervent rose
weak vector
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yeah it says in-game that it reduces tracer visibility

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or does it eliminate it? I don't know. all it says is "+ Tracer Visibility"

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I need more descriptions damn it

fervent rose
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i basically never use subsonic. only on bsvm because it's automatic for all the ammos

wise heath
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The video says if you use suppressor and subsonic you will only show up in 15m

weak vector
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oh wow that's not too bad

frozen loom
wise heath
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And video was made 3 weeks ago

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There’s one problem

frozen loom
wise heath
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The video says

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Depending on the gun, subsonic buffs in some areas, or nerfs

fervent rose
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yeah, theres a couple very specific guns where its decent

wise heath
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OH

fervent rose
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like 75% are awful

wise heath
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Video says if you use with a heavy suppressor

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You are completely invisible on the map

fervent rose
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which is also really bad on most guns

frozen loom
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I never used the map to find enemies.

fervent rose
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except for like the scar

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which gets to use the h suppressor for like 0 downsides

frozen loom
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That's why I liked using the BSV-M. Built-in suppressor.

weak vector
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heavy suppressor? hmmm

fervent rose
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it's normally a really bad choice

wise heath
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I only switch to suppressors when flanking

fervent rose
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ya but you should be running wrapped on most guns, is my point

wise heath
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Never to subsonic because it usually has less bullets than just regular standard issue

fervent rose
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the h suppressor makes most guns shitty

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just really bad numbers wise

wise heath
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sad

weak vector
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I wish suppressors were good

fervent rose
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wrapped is good

wise heath
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I normally play medium range so wrapped is good

fervent rose
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if gun doesnt have short barrel, run wrapped imo

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except for Scar

wise heath
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Oh?

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I mainly use the thing that lowers horizontal or the thing that lowers recoil and muzzle flash

fervent rose
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there's probably a gun or two where theres a specific reason why not, but ya in general

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short barrel is king

wise heath
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Ah now I know

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Yeah the video I watched, I watched his other vids about best gun setups, usually recommends short barrel and high power if possible

fervent rose
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it doesnt really have any accuracy downsides

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like it would in most games

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its just an ROF increase

wise heath
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Battlefield has always been a fire rate game no?

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It’s why AEK and m16a3 reign inbf3

fervent rose
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i mean i guess

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i certainly dont only use high rof guns in 2042 or bfv

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i think the rof mattered a lot in bf3 because of the shitty 15hz netcode

wise heath
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Ah

weak vector
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I'll try wrapped then ty

wise heath
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mhm

fervent rose
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like i think the chauchat is just as good as pretty much any other automatic in bfv

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and its the slowest firing auto

wise heath
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I liked it in bf1

fervent rose
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its essentially a full auto g1-5

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and the g1-5 is very good

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but i can definitely see how a high rof spraygun is easier

wise heath
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I like slow firing rate guns

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or semi auto

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make it easier to lead shots instead of just spraying and hopping

tawny carbon
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That’s why you burst or tap fire weapons for distance

weak vector
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wow the lighting in this game sucks

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so all the walls are broken down in a building, and a vehicle is camped inside and you can't even see it

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where is the lighting?

tawny carbon
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Turn down shadows and turn off ray tracing

weak vector
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I don't have an nvidia card. I don't have ray tracing

tawny carbon
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Turn down shadows then

fervent rose
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bump up brightness

tawny carbon
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That to

fervent rose
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default brightness sucks

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like it looks ok but not for playability

tawny carbon
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HDR also affects lighting abit to. If you have it enabled

weak vector
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oh it apparently is on, yes...

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also random question, is the EMKV90 tank any good or no?

tawny carbon
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Turn it off. Not a need tbh for shooters

wise heath
fervent rose
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not very good vs infantry

weak vector
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I haven't seen people use it often

tawny carbon
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I enjoy Abrams abit more tbh. But it’s a good overall tank

fervent rose
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it's only fun in conquest shooting down aircraft imo

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people that use the tor in breakthrough are lame

wise heath
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I think ive been killed more by the gunners than the main gun

tawny carbon
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Great for long distance anti vehicle tbh.

weak vector
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how about the infantry vehicle stuff? any good ones?

wise heath
#

Tanks feel useless in this game

fervent rose
tawny carbon
#

Vehicles is the best in a squad. Compared to solo in general

weak vector
#

got it

fervent rose
tawny carbon
#

Duo is great for vehicles in general. Second person can help spotting and repairs abit more than soloing

fervent rose
#

playing defender tank sucks because you get parachuted on, and in conquest tanks are free kills for a good air player

wise heath
fervent rose
#

its the 4 wheeler with the beacon

tawny carbon
#

As defender I use it from a distance abit. Not to far but far enough with some cover

wise heath
#

Oh

tawny carbon
#

Ram is hella deadly in a full squad.

wise heath
#

Wish people knew how to use the MAV effectively

#

but it’s just like hardline, they drive it to the nearest obj from base and just stays there the entire match

fervent rose
tawny carbon
#

Tru tru. But 4man squad. Makes ram the best ground vehicle tbh

#

Can do anything at once in one go. Anti anything in the game xD

fervent rose
#

and it has two good weapons

#

the main one and the rockets

tawny carbon
#

Tru tru

#

Anti ground and anti air

fervent rose
#

the howitzer kinda sucks

#

it cant do it all

tawny carbon
#

That’s because lil bird meta when it was more op than now with the changes overtime to it

#

They nerfed it and took it away from it later on

weak vector
#

damn, I guess they've never fixed the bug where just a TINY BIT of space above rocks would block projectiles, even though I'm VERY CLEARLY aiming at their head

naive ember
#

2042 bugs? No way bud

weak vector
#

well this one should have been fixed

naive ember
#

Nobody is worried about rocks

lavish patrol
#

We should really ask ourselves. What are rocks?

hoary sentinel
vital quail
#

Recon squad leader sitting at b flag on spearhead while we have all but E flags

weak vector
#

you know what?

vital quail
#

Man sure is weird I run into these every game

weak vector
#

the g57 should be deleted

#

it really should

#

I got outgunned cqb by a g57 user

brisk turret
#

What's a good weapon to use to have fun with

uneven ibexBOT
vital quail
#

2 squad mates started as lis and falck and were doing fine

#

Both switched to recon and 3 kills combined the next 5 minutes

#

Certified bums

wise heath
#

reason why I had this name for years

weak vector
#

nerf that shit to oblivion

#

I had someone snipe me with the g57

#

whoever balanced that weapon was pretty high or drunk that day

eager spire
#

oh where is that really funny bit that DICE posted about weapon balancing

#

hold on

#

i have it screenshotted somewhere

weak vector
#

they don't know how to balance shit

dire reef
#

i eat illegal substances

eager spire
#

DICE during Season 2 when they nerfed the headshot multipliers on SMG's: "We feel that SMG's should not reward accuracy versus other weapon types"
DICE buffing the G57 by giving it a 2x headshot multiplier: >:)

weak vector
#

wow that's beyond stupid

eager spire
#

yeah pistols have a higher headshot multiplier than SMG's.

weak vector
#

yeah less drinking parties for them, please

eager spire
#

As far as I can tell, why this was done was never properly explained

#

I do not buy the "We feel that SMG's should not reward accuracy versus other weapon types" explanation, I think that is bullshit.

weak vector
#

they also unfairly nerfed rocket projectile speed, and they removed recon drone's EMP without explaining why

eager spire
#

I stand by what I said back then.

#

I believe they nerfed the headshot multiplier on the SMG's because they could not balance the K30 in any way that mattered

#

So they just hit SMG's with a blanket change that was stupid as fuck.

tawny carbon
#

They buffed them not to long ago CursedCat

#

K30 is deadly if you beam headshots

weak vector
#

ah just like in battlebit

eager spire
#

what'd they buff them to?

tawny carbon
#

They buffed their hsd multi

eager spire
#

I think it was like 1.25x after the S2 nerf, so what did they buff it up to?

#

1.5x?

tawny carbon
minor stream
tawny carbon
fervent rose
eager spire
#

which was a problem that DICE made for themselves

minor stream
#

20 rounds a second lol

eager spire
#

they could've just not had it in the game.

tawny carbon
#

They upped it so it’s better CQB for smgs

fervent rose
#

or just made it so the k30 had a lower multiplier

#

why change all guns when its really just a k30 problem

eager spire
#

Anyway, 1.55x is fine. it took 'em like 2 years to figure that out

tawny carbon
#

The blanket changed was mainly for VHX when it dropped.

eager spire
tawny carbon
#

VHX was the main reason why blanket TTK got nerfed a slight bit.

#

Not K30

eager spire
#

K30 was the reason headshot multipliers got nerfed for all SMG's back in Season 2 tho

fervent rose
#

vhx came out like 1.5 years after the smg headshot change

tawny carbon
eager spire
#

literally the only possible explanation for that.

tawny carbon
eager spire
#

yes.

#

that's what i was talking about.

tawny carbon
#

But recently no

eager spire
#

i did not say recently.

tawny carbon
#

I’m just pointing it out because smg multiplier got buffed for Smgs. When the latest blanket change happened

#

Kinda all to weapon categories tbh

eager spire
#

glad they finally did what people said they should do back in like 2022

#

guess it takes that long for feedback to get up the chain of command at DICE.

tawny carbon
#

Yea. All they essentially did is make it where no weapon can exceed 2 headshots to kill. But now 3 at max from full health. Honestly a great blanket change on their end. Very well thought out.

#

All they did is nerfed base dmg a tab bit but increase hsd multiplier abit more but never can past 3 headshots to kill.

naive ember
pliant bluff
#

I am finally off work, it is time to head home and play bf2042

naive ember
#

NA is crazy atm

#

BT that is

hushed lark
#

I'll be sad when control goes away again tomorrow

minor stream
#

Imma hop on to show fools what’s up

#

There’s enough people playing where there could be two breakthrough servers potentially

#

If not more

lavish patrol
#

I like Control. Control is fun.

wise heath
#

TAKE THE AEK OUT OF THE GAME

wise heath
#

I swear if they have aek

lavish patrol
#

Bruh... I'm done with CoD

wise heath
#

If bf6 has aek

#

I think I’m done with battlefield

#

AEK made in 1990

#

Oh god one fucking year is enough to justify aek being in bo6

lavish patrol
#

Dude... you have a disturbing hatred for that gun

#

Be thankful the MG3 wasn't added in 2042

wise heath
#

I heard that was op in bc2

lavish patrol
#

Yes... yes it was

#

It's basically an MG42... but modern... well not modern... just rechambered.

#

And still service to this day because there just isn't anything better than it.

wise heath
#

Game over man

#

Game over

lavish patrol
#

So god forbid it gets added to Bo6 in a future update

minor stream
#

Who is Avohr? Bro acts like a loser

#

Called me a “pc nerd” and kept telling me to update my PC

#

I’m just shaking my head like alright loser turn cross play off

pearl ridge
#

Most of the actually interesting Russian guns were produced (primarily as prototypes) in a brief window in the 90s where their arms manufacturers were trying to justify their own existences and get some export deals going

#

After that they just went back to fucking AKs again

abstract mountain
#

yo is portal any fun? Haven't tried it yet but I wanna unlock the P90 and I don't want to wait until I hit level 50 something to get the k30 to unlock it

pearl ridge
#

Also the weapons nearly always proved to be too complicated for Russian manufacturing capabilities, especially with that hyperburst fixation they had for a bit

#

Like, the G-11 was almost too complex for Germany, and was so much of a clockwork nightmare that the recommendation for maintenance was to send the damn thing back to the manufacturer because they couldn't trust any ol' grunt to get his head around it

wise heath
abstract mountain
#

ah rip

#

that's alright then I'm only like 10 levels off anyway

minor stream
#

We got LA_BaLLr to rage quit 2 days in a row!!! 🎉🥳

minor stream
#

We had like 6 people on the team targeting him shout out to SirFlyingPenguin and the Capn people and stuff ahahaha

#

Cremefraichery

wise heath
#

Why isn’t your video feed working

abstract mountain
#

bro I am so sick of the troglodytes I get on my team every single match. How are you gonna have over 10 people on an objective and still fucking lose it to 3 people while I've defended 2 objectives from their team by myself for an entire match with zero problems

tame crow
#

there are just too many bad kid randys

abstract mountain
lavish patrol
tame crow
#

you will rage every match if you focus on the randys, for your mental stability you just have to ignore or lock in to hard carry a bit.

abstract mountain
#

or like the one time I squad up with randoms then I'm the one playing like shit lmao I've had that happen too

tame crow
#

like these folks are still not potty trained but playing bf it is wild lol

wise heath
#

insert funny bffs reference

tame crow
#

folks playing with a helmet on their head and a muzzle to stop them from licking the window next to them

abstract mountain
#

like it's insane the amount of times I've made it into an enemy objective and wiped like 7 people off it and capped it myself while my teammates can't kill a single person they've ganged up on. And I don't consider myself to be all that good, considering how little I actually play

tame crow
#

that is the bf randy fr

wise heath
#

one thing about bf2042

#

I feel like the average player is dumber than in any other battlefield

tame crow
#

bf2042 randys are the worst, always the newest games are harder.

abstract mountain
#

funny thing is it's almost always my squadmates sitting at the bottom of the leaderboard the whole match lmao

wise heath
#

so true

abstract mountain
#

like I'm thrown on there to balance it out or something

#

which I should not be lmao

wise heath
#

Yeah I’m usually top 5

tame crow
#

i know that feeling there you are top leaderboard and all your squadmates who have been with you from the start of match are in the bottom 10 lol

wise heath
#

That should never be the case

#

I’m so bad

lavish patrol
#

It's weird being top scorer in2042

abstract mountain
#

I'm very rarely ever that high up tbh but I'm always within the top 20 at least even on my worse matches

lavish patrol
#

Most of the time I am not top scorer is if I enter a late game

tame crow
#

worst is when you get behind enemy and you wait a bit hoping for a squad spawn but they never spawn

abstract mountain
#

but I also don't ever use vehicles or anything either so I don't get a lot of score from that

#

I literally had a teammate insta lock a tank just to sit in spawn and try and shoot a stealth jet down from the other side of the map for over 10 minutes

tame crow
wise heath
#

Only in bf1 did I ever bother with vehicles

abstract mountain
#

like brooooooo do something with the single brain cell bouncing around your head how tf do you manage to waste the 0 potential you have as a human being??

wise heath
#

But the seat warmers on the other team are the most annoying

abstract mountain
#

I like flying the jets when I get the chance but I'm pretty ass with them lmao

wise heath
#

Especially in bfv

tame crow
#

bruh i am terrible at jets and helis lmao

abstract mountain
#

like I just wanna run with a squad honestly that's what makes battlefield fun for me is the coordination and tactics you wouldn't have in other games

tame crow
#

i got the kamikaze move down tho

#

lol

wise heath
#

You usually win but enemy seat warmers have like 60kills and 4 deaths

abstract mountain
#

it's hard to get better with them when you have the virgins who instalock them as soon as they're available and never let anyone else use them

#

but ig I'd rather have good pilots than use them myself so

abstract mountain
wise heath
#

I understood bf1 planes

#

But other aircraft? Not at all

abstract mountain
#

I used to be decent with the helis on bf4

#

on a casual level anyway not compared to the people that played 24/7

tame crow
#

bruh the no lifer air people are a nightmare lol

wise heath
#

I think the most I ever got in bf1 on plane was 30 kills on Sinai desert using trench fighter

pliant bluff
#

I like bf2042

abstract mountain
#

as long as they're on my team keeping the helis off me I'm fine with it

wise heath
#

I’m not as pathetic to use that one attack plane with splash damage

#

Genuine losers

abstract mountain
#

I get targeted by aircraft so damn often it's not even funny

wise heath
#

That’s what I miss about 2042

#

old 2042

eager spire
#

I do respect people who are good at flying helis/jets. Playing against them is a nightmare though.

wise heath
#

Can play Angel and have rockets equipped

abstract mountain
#

like I practically have an attack chopper following me around the map some games lmao

wise heath
#

Be both support and anti vehicle

abstract mountain
#

I was never a fan of the operators tbh

#

makes it feel too gimmicky

wise heath
#

I don’t like the characters

#

But I like most of the gadgets

tame crow
#

operators suck

pliant bluff
#

I just use the operator with the wing suit most of the time

abstract mountain
#

I like being restricted to a specific role, though it sucks sometimes when I'm the only one in my squad not having to breathe manually

eager spire
#

I think some of the operator abilities don't need to be in the video game.

wise heath
#

Only gadgets I wouldn’t bring back are Rao hacking thing, Paik thing, Sundance thing, and Boris thing

#

Rest have either been in battlefield before or can be a neat addition

abstract mountain
#

I like the wingsuit cause it's fun but yeah it feels a bit out of place in a battlefield game

fervent rose
#

any grappling hook should be teamwork oriented rather than how mackay works imo

tame crow
#

the hero shooter lite operators need to go. hopefully next bf they are gone just back to traditional classes. however they may just go all out with more garish operators next time and even put their pronouns on select screen for us lol.

fervent rose
#

i hate what mackay does to the overall game

wise heath
#

Wingsuit would be cool if everyone had access

#

But give it downsides and the parachute upsides

abstract mountain
#

being able to set ziplines for your team instead of barely grappling above your jump height would have been way better

eager spire
#

I think Mackay's grapple hook is a bit much in terms of mobility for a game like this, because it creates situations where someone can instantly gain high ground.

fervent rose
#

they at least took away respawn beacon mackay

wise heath
#

Yeah

abstract mountain
#

not to mention an actual thing that is used for squad operations

fervent rose
#

that shit was stupid

wise heath
#

Bfh did it better

wise heath
#

I forgot that one map with the containers, but I feel like that map was the worst with dealing spawn beacon Mackey

#

Mackay

fervent rose
#

many angles that you just cannot get to as any other

eager spire
abstract mountain
#

also the lack of aquatic maps in this game is crazy. The maps in the ocean with a bunch of islands were always some of the more fun maps to me

eager spire
#

to be fair

tame crow
#

2042 has the worst maps in bf history easily

eager spire
#

we are talking about a future setting ravaged by climate change.

wise heath
#

I prefer urban maps/cqc maps

eager spire
#

i think the lack of aquatic maps is justified.

fervent rose
#

finally q says something i agree with holy shit

#

they are the worst maps of bf history

eager spire
#

but yeah BF2042's maps are ass.

wise heath
#

Dry

abstract mountain
#

climate change includes ice caps melting and causing increased water levels no?

wise heath
#

Other places flooded

tame crow
#

2042's maps might be the worst of any major fps game of all time. they are stinkers.

fervent rose
#

yeah ive never seen a game redo their entire list of launch maps ever

#

and they are still dogshit.

abstract mountain
#

like imagine a map with some flooded buildings or something, and maybe a scuba based gadget for infiltrating underwater

eager spire
abstract mountain
#

could have made for some cool mechanics honestly

eager spire
wise heath
eager spire
#

You ever play Flood Zone in BF4?

abstract mountain
#

guess that makes sense then

#

but like

tame crow
#

i never played the bf2042 campaign does it have the climate apocalyspe agenda in it?

wise heath
abstract mountain
#

who tf actually likes having a bunch of dry, open desert maps?

wise heath
tame crow
#

desert maps ooof

wise heath
#

It just means bunch of snipers

eager spire
tame crow
abstract mountain
#

like there's barely any variation in the maps on this game, I can't even tell like 3 of them apart half the time.

wise heath
#

Fao Fortress isn’t that bad except that extra space around the D flag iirc

fervent rose
abstract mountain
#

not to mention the lack of levolution and in game events compared to previous games

eager spire
wise heath
#

Sinai is just kill me

fervent rose
#

sinai sinai sinai sinai always

tame crow
fervent rose
#

its so fucking annoying

#

they always vote fucking sinai

eager spire
abstract mountain
#

which, arguably was one of the parts that made battlefield so good in comparison to other shooters

abstract mountain
wise heath
#

Levolution is meh

eager spire
tame crow
#

NA crazy voting for Sinai.....

abstract mountain
#

being able to level buildings in a battle to drastically change the map layout was always one of my favorite parts

eager spire
abstract mountain
fervent rose
#

the NA players are obsessed with sniping badly

eager spire
pliant bluff
tame crow
# eager spire NA is not smart.

like i have buddies of mine who snipe who love it but never vote for it because they go "oh i know other people don't like it and i get why" lol

abstract mountain
#

if I wanted another generic shooter I'd just be playing CoD tbh I like the games having some originality and personality to them

eager spire
wise heath
#

Cod ghosts map strikezone has more levolution than all of Battlefield

fervent rose
#

i'd play cod if it wasnt an algorithm based experience, like the old days

tame crow
#

in OCE Sinai vote potentially empties server as well haha

fervent rose
#

but now you basically have to play bf for a simple random experience

abstract mountain
#

I don't really find battlefield's gunplay to be all that good tbh, at the very least not this one

wise heath
#

all fps feel the same

#

just point and clicks

eager spire
#

oh no not this one

abstract mountain
#

it's been a long time since I played bf4 and I played that on console so

eager spire
#

like BF4.

#

BF4's gunplay is fine.

#

Infantry gameplay on BF4 is actually very fun compared to CoD.

fervent rose
#

bf4's gunplay is too "microburst = win"

abstract mountain
#

yeah I enjoyed it but I didn't really play it on keyboard cause that was before I got my first PC

wise heath
#

Bf4 guns feel like airsoft

abstract mountain
#

But it does feel like it's straying from what made the games actually interesting to me and more towards, "oh look other games did this thing lets do the same", like 2042 just feels so soulless

lavish patrol
#

Most AAA games are soulless... just look at CoD

abstract mountain
#

I'm hoping that changes with the next game, but I haven't really enjoyed any of the games since bf4 honestly

tame crow
#

bruh cod is a circus game

eager spire
abstract mountain
#

though the bo6 beta was actually pretty fun

fervent rose
#

i'm not trying to say 2042's gunplay is god tier or anything

#

but if you couldnt shoot long range the game wouldnt work

#

the maps just be like that

abstract mountain
#

it's nothing about the range for me

#

it just

#

feels like shit

tame crow
# abstract mountain this is true

bruh i played a lobby the other week and you got Rhea Ripleys all over scurring around, Starlight from the Boyz...... like what a garish monstrosity of a game

abstract mountain
#

it's very floaty, hit detection and damage are inconsistent at best

tame crow
#

yea it is horrible to play

fervent rose
#

bfv felt better, more consistent with the 60hz servers

tame crow
#

the hit detection is garbo

abstract mountain
eager spire
pliant bluff
#

I'll probably play bo6 alongside this game, I plan to snipe in bo6 too

#

I'll probably use the SVD

tame crow
abstract mountain
#

the snipers in bo6 beta felt amazing actually ngl

wise heath
tame crow
#

i dont get everyones obsession with Rhea Ripley too. she beneath mid fr

wise heath
#

Plus Snoop Dogg in ww2

lavish patrol
#

Still never getting another CoD... why should I buy an entire SSD for it?

tame crow
abstract mountain
#

having snoop as the announcer in ghosts was awesome

eager spire
#

Snoop Dogg being in CoD is funny.

tame crow
eager spire
#

I think that's my opinion on most of the skins in CoD. It's funny.

abstract mountain
#

keep in mind the whole point of games is to be fun, having some stupid skins in a game is not a big deal

tame crow
#

Snoop Dogg is funny i will grant that

wise heath
#

I’m mixed on the celebrity skins

tame crow
#

plus you could see Snoop shootin a gun ez

abstract mountain
#

I mean Snoop is/was a big CoD fan so it makes sense for him to be involved

wise heath
#

On one hand, it’s super funny and I want to see my fav celebs and characters, on the other, has the Fortnite effect of something very successful in your game now has every other franchise copying

lavish patrol
#

Remember when CoD used to be an adventure?

fervent rose
#

wasnt there a snoop announcer pack before

tame crow
#

yea

wise heath
eager spire
wise heath
#

And Lee Ermey

#

Ice Cube was in bo1

abstract mountain
#

either way though the skins are kinda funny and that's the point of video games, especially multiplayer, so I don't mind it

lavish patrol
eager spire
fervent rose
#

do you mean like cod 1 and cod 2?

lavish patrol
#

Yes

fervent rose
#

great campaigns

abstract mountain
lavish patrol
#

Those were amazing games

fervent rose
#

i do love cod 1

tame crow
#

my favorite cod is probs COD4 or BO1, I played those the most back in the day

fervent rose
#

but cod4 is when they hit their peak mp

pliant bluff
wise heath
#

That was cool

eager spire
#

I've never bothered with CoD2's campaign. I own it.

wise heath
#

It’s okay

eager spire
#

I would not say I have a favorite CoD game at this point.

abstract mountain
#

bo2, 3, AW, and Ghosts are probably my top 4 favorite CoD games, not in any particular order

eager spire
#

I would not play any of them these days.

wise heath
#

Most of the 2000s ww2 games are okay

#

They are serviceable

tame crow
wise heath
#

Nothing outlandish

eager spire
#

My most played CoD is Bo2.

wise heath
eager spire
#

I hit Master Prestige Level 420 in Bo3.

abstract mountain
#

AW had so much personality

wise heath
#

Yeah

#

I like Exo zombies

abstract mountain
wise heath
#

But god I wish they never added those poison and emp zombies

wise heath
eager spire
#

The only CoD game i'd maybe wanna play again is Bo1, but nobody runs anything on that game other than fucking nuketown.

#

so to hell with it.

abstract mountain
wise heath
#

Balsack 27 obsidian steel

fervent rose
abstract mountain
# wise heath They were ptw?

bo3 absolutely, they were so rare to get if you didn't actively spend money on drops. And some of those weapons were broken af. Entire lifecycle of that game and I got 2 drop weapons that weren't melee

eager spire
#

CoD4, I wouldn't even bother unless there's an active Promod server.

pliant bluff
#

I think I'm going to just play bo6 until the black ops game after that comes out, I'm really kinda past the modern warfare aesthetic now

eager spire
#

Bo1 is dead unless you like Nuketown.

abstract mountain
wise heath
lavish patrol
#

Black Ops 2 had... probably still has... a hacker problem on PC

abstract mountain
pliant bluff
eager spire
wise heath
fervent rose
wise heath
abstract mountain
# wise heath Both were ptw

I never spent a cent on AW and I had a ton of good variants, plus none of them were really broken for them to be considered ptw like bo3 was

wise heath
#

Followed by waw and probably mw2

lavish patrol
#

World At War had those dumb crouch only servers

wise heath
#

Bo1 and mw3 never seen hackers there before

abstract mountain
#

there were maybe a couple though

wise heath
#

Haven’t touched ghosts since 2018

#

And AW

eager spire
wise heath
#

Oh was obsidian steed

eager spire
#

those three were the meta.

wise heath
#

FUCK THE SPEAKEASY

abstract mountain
abstract mountain
# eager spire BAL-27 Obsidian Steed AK-12 RIP AS-M1 Speakeasy

I mean those were good, but I was fairly consistently able to win fights against them with stuff like pistols so I wouldn't consider them really broken per se, but yeah 3 variants out of like 70 isn't really enough to consider it pay to win, especially when you didn't even need to spend money to get a ton of packs, you'd get them every couple games

eager spire
#

they were the meta.

abstract mountain
#

meta does not mean they were broken

eager spire
#

the BAL and ASM1 were a primary topic of complaints while AW was relevant.

abstract mountain
#

I mean CoD players complain about literally anything that they die to so that doesn't really say a whole lot. Easily one of the whiniest player bases out there

eager spire
#

yeah sure.

wise heath
#

As if Battlefield is any better

lavish patrol
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CoD players tend to be more vocal though

abstract mountain
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I can't really speak on that with how little battlefield I've been involved with since before like 2019

wise heath
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Because there’s more of them

tame crow
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bf3 frag rounds era was lolz

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m27 dart too

lavish patrol
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Oh those were fun times

wise heath
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Even using discord servers

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Bf server 160k

abstract mountain
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I've always been more upset with the sweats on battlefield than the balance of any of the games

wise heath
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Cod 588k

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Yeah

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I agree with that

tame crow
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bf4 airburst

wise heath
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If I just saw less aek bunny hoppers I would enjoy bf3 and bf4 more

tame crow
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lvgs lol

wise heath
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Less smg08

eager spire
abstract mountain
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I feel like bf is a series you can kind of do something with anything, and with the vehicles there's a bit less of a focus on balance needing to be perfect considering the variation of play styles

lavish patrol
fervent rose
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me personally i blame the balance of the game when the bf4 thermal abusing nolife tanker makes my life painful

abstract mountain
wise heath
eager spire
wise heath
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They are only good at the game because of bad balancing

abstract mountain
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I enjoy running high rof guns but I've always had a preference for smgs so it has nothing to do with the meta or how good they are in my case

fervent rose
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and like in 2042, i'm gonna get irritated with the nightbird itself, not the players abusing it

abstract mountain
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I'll run a p90 even if it's the worst gun in the game

fervent rose
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the devs made it that imbalanced

wise heath
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sure give the gun with high rof no recoil, best accuracy and damage

tame crow
abstract mountain
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I run one in airsoft too

lavish patrol
tame crow
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pilots whine a lot. they literally believe they should remain in the sky unopposed the whole game

wise heath
fervent rose
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yeah theres nothing louder than pilots whining when theres actually anti air that works

abstract mountain
fervent rose
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the fliegerfaust release was crazy

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the pilot butthurt was astounding

tame crow
lavish patrol
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Fliegerfaust release was happy days... clear skies made me feel all tingly

wise heath
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just go to F2P war Thunder ffs

eager spire
tame crow
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yOo nOt aLLouD 2 kILL Mii iN Da aIR coZ yoO r oN dA gROunD

fervent rose
abstract mountain
fervent rose
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but i am by definition a sweat

eager spire
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i mean, there's the fundamental misunderstanding that people who are good at the video game are also playing it to have fun.

fervent rose
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my stats are omega sweatlord levels

eager spire
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it's just that them having fun is different than how you would have fun.

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in essence you are just mad at people for having fun in a different manner than you.

tame crow
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if you sweating just turn the AC on

wise heath
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going in circles flying above targets that can barely hurt you

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wow so fun and fair

fervent rose
abstract mountain
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being a "sweat" to me does not mean being good at the game, there are plenty of wannabe pros that only play a game because they are good and don't enjoy it in the slightest. Look at some random lower view count CoD streamers and you see that difference, these people are absolutely miserable, but they go around shitting on people. that's what I consider a sweat

fervent rose
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but going ham in the ram?

eager spire
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they wouldn't get good at a game if they didn't enjoy it though.

abstract mountain
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or just run exclusively meta loadouts and find the cheesiest things in the game to use and do nothing else

wise heath
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I’ve never minded tanks, I’ve had fun fighting them or running away from them

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But planes?

fervent rose
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and i am the bunny hopper

eager spire
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you don't play a game for ages and get really good at it if you hate it.

wise heath
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Take them out

abstract mountain
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I think you vastly underestimate people's ability to be completely unreasonably spiteful in their actions

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there are plenty of CoD players who hate-play the games at this point

eager spire
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CoD players who are good at the game are in a unique position though, because SBMM exists.

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Those players are actively punished for being good at the game.

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but they can't not be good at the game.

abstract mountain
eager spire
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because they just are, they've likely been playing the games for years.

wise heath
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They regularly bomb any AA cannons, AA vehicles are taken by some blueberry that is always getting c4ed, and your AA launcher either doesn’t have enough range or they use pussy ass ecm jammer

fervent rose
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helicopters cool, planes remove em

tame crow
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take out the chairforce

abstract mountain
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but there's also players who loved older games and got very good at those, just to end up hating the new games, but continuing to play because they've sunk so much time into the series and don't have anything else to do with their time at that point, and that's a thing in a good portion of major game franchises

wise heath
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I didn’t mind helis in hardline

eager spire
wise heath
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That player sucks then

fervent rose
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cod is vile software

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a virus

wise heath
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Playing SND likes it’s tdm

abstract mountain
fervent rose
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but.. thats how it works.

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it doesnt make balanced lobbies with equal players of equal skill

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it's not an ELO matchmaker, it's actually "eomm" engagement optimization matchmaking

abstract mountain
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that's how it's supposed to work, that's the entire point of having SBMM, to balance out the matchmaking by skill level

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which it doesn't do well

wise heath
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sbmm? more like your enemies are better than you and your teammates are worse than you, good luck btw

fervent rose
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it does not have "skill based matchmaking" like a proper ELO ranked matchmaking game would have

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thats just a straight up lie

tame crow
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cod matchmaker rigs games

fervent rose
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dont believe them lol

abstract mountain
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I don't like having it at all tbh I like having varying skill levels, that's how you get better at a game is by playing against people who are better than you

tame crow
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cod is rigged

eager spire
# abstract mountain that just means that it's not functional though, if it was functional all player...

it is functional, you're just not understanding how it works.

In the scenario i mentioned, the really good player is placed on a team of people that have below average stats. This makes the team balanced in the eyes of the algorithm because as far as it's concerned, the one guy with the really good stats combined with the below average stats of his teammates averages out to being just average, and the other team is full of people that are just average, maybe a bit above average. This is what counts as a balanced match to CoD's SBMM system.

fervent rose
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cod's matchmaker is nothing like playing dota 2 ranked, or Halo 2 ranked

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totally and completely different

abstract mountain
eager spire
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But this creates a scenario where the really good player is expected to backpack 4-5 other players that are not good at all, and if the really good player dies for any reason, they've effectively lost rounds, and there's not much the really good player can do about that.

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and this is why people that are really good at CoD are generally unhappy.

lavish patrol
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CoD is just playing ranked all the time

abstract mountain
wise heath
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But one problem

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Even with countless losses

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Why don’t you start going against bad enemies

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Or start getting good teammates

fervent rose
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keanu you think you're getting help after the game has decided you're in the good player pool

eager spire
abstract mountain
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it's just a shit matchmaking system regardless of how it's supposed to function, and shouldn't be in the game to begin with

eager spire
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though people that reverse boost generally have dedicated accounts for that.

wise heath
abstract mountain
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casual matchmaking should not be treated like a ranked game mode

fervent rose
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I'll just play a franchise without that garbage

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they basically cant ruin bf with it because 64 players is too much for matchmaking shenanigans

abstract mountain
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Like you're more likely to get a good mix of skill levels having it be completely random than you are with sbmm

wise heath
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Tried playing the finals and Halo Infinite and MCC, first match of the day, game is easy, every other match is impossible

abstract mountain
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which seems extremely counterproductive

eager spire
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But yeah, this is why good CoD players are generally unhappy. Because they are actively punished by the video game for daring to be good at it.

wise heath
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That’s just mental that such a thing exists

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Like a crack addiction

lavish patrol
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CoD is an addictive drug and an abusive relationship

eager spire
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At least in Battlefield, you're not punished for being good by the video game.

abstract mountain
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and people like that ruin every match they're in

eager spire
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you're mostly just yelled at by people on reddit or in the game chat.

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or at worst, actively harassed.

wise heath
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Game chat?

pliant bluff
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What are the worst assault rifles in bf2042?

wise heath
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I know what you’re saying

fervent rose
wise heath
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But I’ve maybe heard 4 people use gamechat in 2042

fervent rose
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yeah the spicy in game chat went way downhill with dice making it default off

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very depressing compared to bfv i'd get lots of fun comments

wise heath
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Or when games started banning you from saying swear words

eager spire
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I've seen people call me the hard r in BF4 gamechat before getting kicked out

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i actually have a bit on my profile where i list the funniest comments i've gotten from randos while playing BF4.

abstract mountain
# eager spire At least in Battlefield, you're not punished for being good *by the video game.*

yeah that was more or less what I was trying to portray with my inital point; people who take the game too seriously and actively berate their teammates for not playing absolutely flawlessly would fall under the category of sweats for me personally. They're the people that go and ruin the fun for people just trying to relax and enjoy themselves. That said there's a difference between not playing perfectly and not being able to functionally breathe through your nose without having to think about it

vital quail
eager spire
fervent rose
eager spire
lavish patrol
abstract mountain
vital quail
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The actual bots would be more useful than what I currently get

eager spire
abstract mountain
vital quail
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Pretty sure every recon bot uses the svk so that's already better than a sniper

lavish patrol
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You know what's funny? Not being allowed to swear in a rated M game.

fervent rose
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yeah its pretty pathetic

wise heath
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saddest thing ever

abstract mountain
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ratings don't mean shit any more when half your matches are flooded by children below the games age rating anyway

fervent rose
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not like the age rating ever did anything ever lol

vital quail
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Funny, they literally just changed game chat filter and more stuff has been allowed

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Not sure if intentionally or not tho

abstract mountain
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I barely ever get people using game or voice chat

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which sucks because there might be a bit more coordination if they did

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or just

fervent rose
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the people that do that stuff do it in discord

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in game mic players are so few and far between

abstract mountain
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had brain cells free that weren't being taken up focusing on remembering their own name

eager spire
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yeah, nobody coordinates in game chat, you join a discord if you want that.

wise heath
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Only team coordination I’ve seen in 2042 is on redacted

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“C tunnel”

vital quail
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There are a lot of regulars that i see on 128 and it's pretty obvious to coordinate without even having to type or speak

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Pings go a long way

fervent rose
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coordination is asking a lot from the battledads

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as long as they move out of spawn thats good enough for me

wise heath
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Idk about that

lavish patrol
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You want coordination, just squad up with friends.

primal field
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Is bf2042 server down? I can't launch the game

wise heath
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The only other thing that pisses me off in battlefield besides op weapons is clueless squadmates which seems to be every squad member

primal field
fervent rose
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its actually quite freeing knowing how unreliable they are

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never expect them to do anything and you play better

lavish patrol
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Expecting randos to do something smart in BF... yeah...

fervent rose
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i take the mortar off of my tank loadout just so squadmates exit my tank and leave me alone

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and the random that wants to switch between tow+rocket pod? that guy is actually good