battlefield-2042

[fringe spire]

sus or not ?

[chilly jacinth]

Not even remotely sus

[fringe spire]

???

[chilly jacinth]

What?

[fringe spire]

I can't take you seriously

there's no way you t1 a jet in such little time

[chilly jacinth]

If all you use is jets it's not hard to do

[fringe spire]

especially as a console player in crossplay lobbies

[chilly jacinth]

Just check his stats

[fringe spire]

how

[chilly jacinth]

battlefield tracker

[fringe spire]

what's that

[chilly jacinth]

#stats has it

[fringe spire]

well the guy left the lobby so

I don't have his name anymore

could it be the guy just snipes jets on game start

and leaves when he gets shot down

just to repeat

and spam jet gameplay ?

[chilly jacinth]

That's very common for vehicle mains

[fringe spire]

XD

that's awful

so people who wanna play a bit of everything just get locked out of vehicles then

[topaz wigeon]

is anyone having trouble seeing any friends online? I see zero

[stoic oriole]

same

[naive ember]

Other languages aren't relevant

[void gorge]

Maybe yes or maybe no although I have several mastery achievements with different weapons but if you could tell me how to use it "properly" I would appreciate it

[chilly jacinth]

Figure it out im not your personal coach

[void gorge]

They are not relevant because at the moment you don't need them and I say this because here in Brazil, for example, many people from other countries come to visit and when they want to buy something from someone they have to learn to speak Portuguese "on the spot"

[void gorge]

Of course my friend because I don't need a "babysitter"

[spare quest]

Yeah we can tell

[topaz breach]

Any of y’all have trouble joining in on friends on 2042?

I’ve got 3 friends online but none show they’re playing

[fringe spire]

can the trees on exposure be like

not made of reinforced concrete

if you remotely touch one branche with the edge of your plane's wing

you blow up XD

[naive ember]

No they don't, I have seen irl twitch streamers go there

[void gorge]

Speaking of trees, there are times in the game when a collision happens during the game and if the collision happens near some trees they are thrown.
across the map like paper and at the same time this scene is funny but it is also interesting to see because it shows how EA cared about the game's physics down to the smallest details

[void gorge]

who doesn't want it? Recently I saw a video on Tik Tok of a Chinese woman on a beach in Rio de Janeiro having to "improvise" in Portuguese to be able to buy food from a seller

[naive ember]

Many people don't speak Chinese bud

[wise heath]

I wish they kept hovercraft driving up walls

Gross

Ruined bf4 even more

Just give bf3 specializations of having one boost that you won’t lose by getting killed by some random sniper

[acoustic seal]

DMRs existing ruined bf4 tbh

can we have a moratorium on putting spammable, braindead, easy to use "long range" (every range) weapons in games?

[fringe spire]

Anyone else have noticed that when pinging people that you're on your way to revive them, as medic

They time out themselves even more

It happens so often it really feels like they're doing it as reaction to me pinging them

I don't get it

if you cba about revives, they would just spam spacebar from the start

and if you wanna let people revive, then why are they doing that

[wise heath]

To troll

People do that a lot

[acoustic seal]

people check out when they die, the ping brings their brain back online and they cancel upon seeing that they're in a shitty spot for a rez

[wise heath]

The sniper class should never have access to other guns

[naive ember]

Not in NA

[wise heath]

You do it a lot

was annoying in bf3 seeing recons bhopping around with shotgun or p90 and constantly moving their tugs around too

[naive ember]

I'm not a medic

[wise heath]

You said two weeks ago

[naive ember]

No I didn't

I'm a recon

[wise heath]

Does not akee sense

[naive ember]

Akee?

[wise heath]

make*

Sorry autocorrect

[naive ember]

Yeah sure bud that's what they all say

[wise heath]

Like you said you were a medic

[naive ember]

Never said that

[wise heath]

You’re making that up

[naive ember]

Blasco says hi

[fringe spire]

I still fail to understand how you can simultaneously be dominated by enemy vehicles and have 30+ engineers in your team

[fringe spire]

most of the time they're not in shitty revive spots at all ...

[fringe spire]

really ? just let yourself timeout to troll medics ?

[wise heath]

Angel says get teamkilled

[wise heath]

I play medic mostly and the only reason I can think of why is trolling

[fringe spire]

me too

[acoustic seal]

"i want to go back to the spawn screen" isn't enough of a reason?

[wise heath]

those people are okay

The problem are the people who call for a medic and as soon you’re halfway there, they skip revive

[spare quest]

Those are the same people who drive away from engineers while getting repaired in a safe spot

[wise heath]

or ask for ammo and still keep running away from you

[spare quest]

battlefield players are kinda dumb ngl

[void gorge]

boy.. now I didn't understand what you meant

[naive ember]

No? You said Chinese lady right? Most in Brazil aren't going to know how to speak Chinese. I get you have a disability but your trolling skills need work

I mean half the dudes in here blocked you already

[spare quest]

[void gorge]

and you think I care if someone blocked me? This just shows that they are probably people who are prejudiced against people from other countries and I say this not because it is a statement that I took from "beyond", but because for example a while ago there was a discussion between me and other people here on the server in which we all broke rules and didn't "notice" but then, curiously, an administrator came to "reprimand" just me, even though I wasn't the only one arguing there

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[wet whale]

anybone wanna run squads

for pc

[spare quest]

#lfg-pc

[void gorge]

I was playing with Liz, I fired her missile and there was literally no one in front of me and as soon as I fired the missile exploded.. I asked in the chat of the 2 teams if this happens to anyone else and a guy from the enemy team said yes and see you today developers didn't fix this?? what a shame

[vital quail]

People can shoot the missle

You have 1500 hours in game and you feel the need to ask questions regarding every minute of gameplay you experience here

Most of it just being stuff you do not understand

[spare quest]

i had the same problem yesterday

[lone solstice]

hey guys, i just came back to bf 2042 i cant find the current battle pass

[chilly jacinth]

Cause battlepasses have stopped

[mental delta]

You're 1 year too early dude lol

BF6 isn't out yet

[naive ember]

They should delay it 5 years cause I'm still enjoying 2042

[lone solstice]

lmfaoo yeaa i was just asking cuz i came back to the game and saw no BP

thought it was like hidden somewhere💀

they aint making more from what i was told so yee im caught up now

[naive ember]

BP overrated

[mental delta]

Yeah no all seasons are done like they won't bring any more content

Good news though BF6 is closer than ever

[lone solstice]

yeaa im excited

[mental delta]

There's already been some talk about it

Me too

[lone solstice]

still love 2042 atleast my wallets gonna be relieved lol

[mental delta]

The things they announced for now are promising

Yes lol

[lone solstice]

im vibing in 2042 tho so no rush

[lone solstice]

ugh i just hope its good

[mental delta]

Yeah but playercount is slowly going to decrease in the next months with all the games coming out

[lone solstice]

mhmm ofc yea

[mental delta]

I hope too but I'm confident this time they seem to j ow what the fuck is going on in their studios

[lone solstice]

u never know in gaming nowdays💀

[naive ember]

Should definitely preorder, what can go wrong?

[robust ether]

Very cautiously optimistic for the next BF

Emphasis on the cautious because I was incredibly hyped for 2042 and then it released and I was less than excited

[hoary sentinel]

forever and always cautiously optimistic for any next game

[tawny carbon]

I’m pre ordering next BF game. Cuz it’s my money

[void gorge]

You probably didn't even read the entire message I sent, or if you did, you probably didn't even try to understand my question. What disappoints me is that generally your only argument against me is wanting to say that I have more than 1k hours of play, but actually giving a minimally intelligent argument is lacking.

[void gorge]

So EA practically abandoned the game? I hope not because depending on the answer abandoning a big game like 2042 will be a huge disregard for the community

[chilly jacinth]

Battlepassess stopped because seasonal content stopped

[pliant bluff]

I'll buy it later when it's 6 bucks

[minor stream]

When you blow up LA_Ballr’s tank 👍🏼

[lavish patrol]

Does short barrel just universally make a gun better?

[acoustic seal]

pretty much

[minor stream]

I just put 3 C5 on LA_Ballr’s tank and it lived

I want to die.

[proud kindle]

what is the S on level???

[wet beacon]

driving a c5 loaded jeep into his tank is always fun

[minor stream]

You know him?

[wet beacon]

ya

[minor stream]

In a way, how could you not know that buffoon

Shoots from 2 kilometers away like it’s a real NATO tank and he is a straight whore always in it

[wet beacon]

if u happen to get a tank before his macros do he'll put c5 on u xd

[minor stream]

For real? My hatred grows.

[wet beacon]

ya hes rly weird like that hes been the same since like lvl s100

[minor stream]

I legit hate his guts

Just blew him up xd

[wet beacon]

W

[minor stream]

He’s not spawning hahaha

[lavish patrol]

You know what I still despise? Littlebird bastards.

[minor stream]

He legit is not spawning

They lost

[acoustic seal]

average vehicle player behavior

[wet beacon]

hey dont lump me in with him !

[acoustic seal]

i think it would be funny if there were no vehicles in the next game at launch and tank shitters were forced to play the game

[minor stream]

HE SAID SOMETHING IN TRXT CHAT

HE FUDGIN SAID SOMETHING

I TOOK A PIC

[pine roost]

No way someone typed in all chat

[minor stream]

Bro LA_Ballr is a mute

Well he responded once on his YouTube channel comments

[wet beacon]

if u run over his aps sentis a few times he'll start chatting

[pine roost]

Oh does he literally just sit there with sentinels the whole time

[minor stream]

No

He only plays tank

Sits in the very back of the last sector behind their spawn

Lobbing tank shells like artillery

[wet beacon]

he does the same with apaches in reclaimed

[pine roost]

Incredible

Truly a very skilled player

[wet beacon]

think he floats like 600m away so no1 can get locks/lissiles on him and spams the 30mm gunner cannons lol

[minor stream]

He’s messing with me now

He is hiding in tank not shooting

This has gone a whole nother level of Hell

Wow he is such a douche

He is not playing the game. He is mad I got him a couple times, so now he is sitting in the tank in the very back doing NOTHING. Literally on the border of the very back of their spawn sector as attack

[wet beacon]

thats pretty average for him

sometimes i hop on his gunner seats and he does that

[minor stream]

I consistently advocate the lobby to report him for gameplay sabotage

He left the match! Ahahaha!

I MADE HIM LEAVE

[eager spire]

ok

[naive ember]

Did he come back?

[minor stream]

You seem unimpressed

[minor stream]

He’s gone.

[eager spire]

that is because i am

[minor stream]

Are you LA_Ballr cause you seem to have beef

[eager spire]

nope.

[minor stream]

ok.

[eager spire]

never heard of 'em in my life.

[minor stream]

Now im unimpressed by you

[eager spire]

ok

[minor stream]

A normal person might cheer on somebody beating a tank hog who sits in the back

Are you a tank hog in the closet?

[eager spire]

I don't even play vehicles at all, i'm mostly an infantry player.

[naive ember]

[minor stream]

This is a historic day that requires adequate appreciation and respect just saying

[eager spire]

well now that you say that i'm even less motivated to give that to you.

:I

[minor stream]

You are my personal Vietnam

[eager spire]

That would mean something to me if i cared

[minor stream]

But you cared enough to send ok so I’ll take that at least. Jesus man.

[eager spire]

ok

[minor stream]

Mr. Too Cool for School

[eager spire]

not really, but whatever man.

[pliant bluff]

Hello

[naive ember]

[vital quail]

Weirdo behavior fr

[mental delta]

He just hacked the whole server we're all cooked

[vital quail]

Bros yapping

[pliant bluff]

I was trying to spell Hi but it didn't work

[pine roost]

[pliant bluff]

Fietle

[mental delta]

FIETLE ?

[pine roost]

[pliant bluff]

Short for fire beetle

Trying to decide if I want to obtain the AKS-74U or the M416 first

[clear widget]

Anyone wanna squad up. And take. Down some tanks - must have mic & speak English and isn't do do

[naive ember]

[lavish patrol]

Why does it feel like this game is easy to do well in compared to previous BF titles? For example, in BFV, there will be times I will really struggle. That is never the case for 2042.

[eager spire]

because 2042 is a really easy game.

while also being really bad

so there are not a lot of really good players that are on it

[ruby thicket]

Can anyone confirm that my Portal is live? Been dead for hours T . T

[vocal tusk]

No one uses the portal browser, if your experience is dead...its for this reason

[ruby thicket]

Dang....I was wondering what was going on

Thank you

[karmic egret]

portal had so much potential

[ruby thicket]

It seriously did, it's unfortunate.

[vocal tusk]

It was a few steps short of being amazing!

[eager spire]

Portal is a case study of why BF players should not be given that much control

[vocal tusk]

Na, the player control was not the issue.

[eager spire]

because all you get is XP farms and hardcore milsim realism ukraine war servers

it was.

because the amount of control people had is what lead to the creation of those kind of servers.

[vocal tusk]

Disagree. The issue was in the UX, onboarding to portal, lack of persistent servers, and lack of DICE official servers

Outside of that it also suffered from piss poor filtering

[eager spire]

i mean DICE added persistent servers if you had premium, didn't help because most of the servers are the shit i mentioned earlier

[vocal tusk]

In an ideal world this is how it would work.

Players would simply have two options in the interface

• Browse Games
• Host a game

Host would have two options. Host an official mode from a premade DICE preset, or host a Custom mode, made or shared via the portal builder site.

Browsing would allow you to see all active servers for all modes. There would not be a separate "Portal" server browser, simply one browser for all modes with different tabs. For example:

• Official Modes
• Custom Modes

Official modes tab would be populated by all DICE official servers and community hosted servers using DICE official presets with no tweaks to the experience (These official presets already exists in portal)

Custom Modes would be populated by modes which have been made using the portal builder, with tweaks to the experience that takes them away from the base modes feeling. For example lower health, higher damage, ETC.

[tawny carbon]

Could help a bit

That’s if dice wants to open couple more servers up. But that’s money on their end

[vocal tusk]

Like also, and obviously so, you should be able to congifure an experience you want to host from in game, without needing to use an external browser. Even if this just allowed setting the map rotation, it would make hosting modes accessible to players on console and PC.

Portal felt like a great idea in concept, which was largely built...but then the UX side of it was added very late in the development cycle

[tawny carbon]

Tru tru

One thing would make 2042 even better. Map editor for PC

[vocal tusk]

AKA...it was built and then they went "OK, so how is a player gong to interact with this system" and that part was not fleshed out as much as it needed to be as the game released with so many issues

Map editor will never return

[tawny carbon]

One day

[eager spire]

map editor for PC

either nobody would use it or a lot of people would use it and just make mostly garbage with a few standout examples from people that actually give a shit

[tawny carbon]

Have you seen fanmade concepts of 2042 maps

[eager spire]

those are the only two outcomes.

you can only pick one.

[tawny carbon]

They look awesome asf

[vocal tusk]

Concepts of maps and building a functional map are FAR from the same thing

[acoustic seal]

they're all really really really bad yes, as bad as the dice launch maps

giving portal players a map editor would just lead to a single bot farm map and then 20 maps ported from counter-strike

[tawny carbon]

Even the BF6 fanmade concept maps with 2042 UI. Looks awesome asf

[vocal tusk]

And 99% of it is AI made slop

[glad rivet]

is there 2x xp

[tawny carbon]

They already nerf AI farms in portal ages ago.

[eager spire]

AI made slop. They must be trying to appeal to EA, trying to get a job.

[vocal tusk]

2042 concept art looked awesome also, but the maps themselves were largely terrible

[eager spire]

AI generated maps.

[tawny carbon]

Is it actually AI or they made it

Who knows tbh

[eager spire]

bros are like "i can use midjourney or whatever, please hire me to make concepts EA"

"i know you wanna use AI more"

[acoustic seal]

whatever the farm is, 20 cq capture points in a circle

i was thinking about kf2's early farm map where all the bots dropped from the ceiling into a pen with windows and you just killed them

[tawny carbon]

Bro. I’m just talking about map editor. Not farms in the first place.

[vocal tusk]

Hourglass in concept, and the reality we got shows you that concepts mean next to nothing.

[tawny carbon]

Many things got cut before launch

[eager spire]

bro he is talking about maps made for farming XP that would be made using a theoretical map editor

[acoustic seal]

and i'm telling you that giving people a map editor would lead to the same degenerate behaviors that killed portal

[eager spire]

it is not hard to comphrend that concept

[tawny carbon]

Remember the first trailer they showed us. Compared to launch. Many things got cut. Prob got cut and toned down due to last gen

[eager spire]

like what

what got cut exactly

[naive ember]

Grass

[tawny carbon]

How are you gonna farm xp now when they nerfed heavily ages ago after people abused AI farms for T1

[vocal tusk]

Everything they showed in the first gameplay trailer was in the game...the maps were just terrible

[eager spire]

killing bots is not the only way to farm xp

[tawny carbon]

They tune a lot of things down and cut a lot of it. Now it’s very bland compared to trailer

[eager spire]

that's what they were talking about, they even pinged you with an example

the trailer was not gameplay, that was cinematics animated for the purposes of being a trailer

[vocal tusk]

Example of such a thing? Cos it REALLY seems like you are making things up

First trailer was on hourglass, everythign shown there was in the game at launch

[eager spire]

The game was never going to look like the cinematic trailers, even if it was next gen exclusive.

[tawny carbon]

All the things you saw before compared to now. Compare it side by side

[eager spire]

okay but i need you to understand

what you saw in the trailers

was not gameplay

it was never gameplay

it was cinematics that were animated for the purposes of being a trailer for the game.

[vocal tusk]

Literally everything shown here was in the game as its shown at launch

https://youtu.be/WomAGoEh-Ss?si=c3remYKjSwse4rMT

[eager spire]

please understand that

Literally what was in the trailers that ended up getting cut from the game, actually. can you name anything.

[lavish patrol]

Now that you mention that part, I have lost count how many players I killed who have ZERO spatial awareness.

[eager spire]

yeah, because there are not a lot of good players that are on the game.

[lavish patrol]

Added with a darn good gun like the RM68, and I was going to town

Most good players I had trouble facing were mostly littlebird pilots

[tawny carbon]

The realistic sandstorm, the fire out of the heli engine. The detailed lighting, reflections, weather feels more real compared to now. The atmosphere.

[fringe spire]

players who spawn a vehicle then abandon it

[tawny carbon]

Is all the same that we have now?

[fringe spire]

I don't like those people

[eager spire]

THAT IS ALL BECAUSE IT WAS ANIMATED, NONE OF THAT WOULD HAVE EVER RUN WELL IN GAMEPLAY

[vocal tusk]

It was exactly the same at launch and mostly is the same now, yes

[eager spire]

EVEN IF IT WAS NEXT GEN EXCLUSIVE.

[tawny carbon]

So we have fire shooting out of the heli right now as we speak when it’s damaged

[vocal tusk]

Yes?

[tawny carbon]

The weather have more effects to it. Compared rn. That is bland asf

[eager spire]

You're pointing out shit that doesn't even matter as far as gameplay is concerned.

[eager spire]

because it was rendered using industry leading animation software with no expectations of it actually being playable, it was an elaborate 3d animation.

If they had tried to put that level of detail into the gameplay, it would run a lot worse.

[lavish patrol]

I remember there was one sniper I struggled to face... and then I realized when I saw his nametag... GrndpaGamingTV

The old man is terrifying to go up against

[eager spire]

Cinematics =/= Gameplay, you cannot expect everything you see in cinematic trailers to show up in gameplay, that is the entire reason the distinction exists.

[vocal tusk]

No it wasnt lol.

that tornado sandstorm looks like that in game.

[tawny carbon]

So this is clearly in live game as we speak

[eager spire]

I'm going off the assumption that he is not talking about the gameplay trailer, since he's going on about aesthetics.

[eager spire]

We also have to take into consideration that people for the most part are not running this game on All Ultra settings.

[tawny carbon]

I played the game in 4k everything maxed out. The game play reveal trailer looks better than the live game

[eager spire]

ALSO ALSO, we are talking about aesthetic details that don't really matter that much to gameplay.

[vocal tusk]

Yes, you can see it in any attack heli gameplay video, or in game. I spent about 30 seconds googling to find this

https://youtu.be/sOUfAO_Vr1Q?si=ittjF7RiRMr8hlIu&t=181

[eager spire]

You cannot name a single thing that matters to gameplay that was cut.

[tawny carbon]

A lot of people were upset it looks completely different form reveal compared to live game when it dropped.

[eager spire]

it was never going to look the same, even if it was next gen exclusive. it probably is for the best that it didn't, because the game ran like ass on launch anyway.

[tawny carbon]

On launch. That was a lot of people main issues. Alot of people called it a downgrade version of the game

[eager spire]

If it had looked a bit more like pre-release footage, it probably would've ran worse. For all we know it ran a lot worse, but it was never an issue because they were just filming cinematic shots for the trailer, not really playing the game.

[tawny carbon]

That’s why I said. Alot of things either got cut or tuned down compared to live game

[vocal tusk]

https://youtu.be/JJL84PBCt4I?si=ONV03bpFC-SVvkPZ

[tawny carbon]

Did I or did I not say that

[eager spire]

Nothing that mattered.

[vocal tusk]

Youve yet to state a single thing that was cut

[eager spire]

Tuned down, maybe. Cut, no.

[tawny carbon]

What about the slide after zip line they did in gameplay trailer. It looks smoother

[vocal tusk]

This is next level nitpicking lmao

[eager spire]

you're nitpicking, yeah.

[tawny carbon]

Nitpicking?

I’m not picking a nit

[eager spire]

If i had to guess, the gameplay footage was recorded on LAN by the developers.

[tawny carbon]

So your saying im being fussy?

[eager spire]

you're being pedantic.

[tawny carbon]

What about tank roller over the car. Looks more realistic

Gameplay right?

[eager spire]

Likely tuned down for server and client performance reasons, i assume tanks can still roll over cars.

[tawny carbon]

So I point out stuff. And i get called nitpicking

Love it

[eager spire]

because everything you've pointed out is the tiniest shit imaginable and you've not even mentioned a single thing that was actually cut despite claiming that that is the case

[vocal tusk]

Youre reaching for things to point out, to the point that its nipicking, or incorrect, so yes

[tawny carbon]

I don’t get it

[vocal tusk]

"That slide after using a zipline looks less smooth" being an example

[eager spire]

Are you deliberately being dense, is this a joke to you?

[tawny carbon]

I’m just comparing it to the live aka current build of the game

[tawny carbon]

This?

[eager spire]

yes

[tawny carbon]

[vocal tusk]

The one single thing youve poibnted out thats maybe different, but probably isnt

[tawny carbon]

Because I said it looks smoother

[vocal tusk]

Yes, that is by definition a nitpick...and its probably not event true

[eager spire]

you're nitpicking really hard.

[tawny carbon]

All because I said that. Means I’m that. WOW that’s wild asf to me

[eager spire]

yes.

that is not a difficult concept to understand, you say things that are nitpicks, you are nitpicking.

congratulations.

[vocal tusk]

Considering this was your OG statement

"They tune a lot of things down and cut a lot of it. Now it’s very bland compared to trailer"

They tuned a lot - Nothing mentioned that really looks all that different

They cut a lot - yet to state a single thing they cut

[tawny carbon]

So I can’t give any feedback towards the slide after zip line. Got it

Thanks. I understand now

[vocal tusk]

Since when were you asked for feedback?

[eager spire]

if that were the only thing you said and you weren't on a tirade about how they downgraded the game from the trailers then it wouldn't be an issue

but that is not the case.

[vocal tusk]

You are the one saying they cut stuff

[eager spire]

you are deliberately removing the zipline thing from it's context to make it seem like you're being less ridiculous than you are.

Is this a bit? Are you fucking around right now, is this a joke?

[vocal tusk]

They are acting like us calling that statement ridiculous ss us attacking them, or invalidating an opinion. Im not asking for an opinion, im asking for a tangeable thing that can show as having been cut

[eager spire]

We called it a nitpick

I called them ridiculous.

[tawny carbon]

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/battlefield-2042-xbox-ps5-ps4-pc-destruction/

2042 was supposed to have massive levels of destruction

[vocal tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[eager spire]

was any of this in the trailers?

Because there is zero chance you knew about that before you frantically googled "things cut from battlefield 2042"

@vocal tusk i don't remember any destruction being explicitly showcased in the trailers, do you?

[vocal tusk]

Nothing in trailers, just some BS marketting stuff before launch...and players expectation from tech demos of Frostbite (That one large building collapse is always brought up as "Cut content")

[eager spire]

ah right, that frostbite tech demo thing where they showed a building crumbling

[vocal tusk]

Yes, this one

[tawny carbon]

https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/matthew-wilson/battlefield-2042-cut-content-includes-expanded-environmental-hazards-and-weather-effects/

[eager spire]

yeah people were thinking that was gonna be in the game, even though it had no chance of being in the game because it would probably make things a nightmare to run on a game that even when things got toned down ran like ass.

[eager spire]

was any of this in the trailers?

again, you're just scrolling down that google search of "battlefield 2042 cut content"

[tawny carbon]

Tryna go back in my history in my web browser

[vocal tusk]

Tom Henderson said tho

Must be true

[eager spire]

damn what if tom henderson was wrong

[orchid tusk]

about what?

[vocal tusk]

Like when he leaked that 2042 would have a FTP BR?

[eager spire]

kinda remember that

Anyway, kinda crazy that we went from a conversation about how the game got downgraded from the trailers and you refusing to specify things that were cut from the trailers to this, where you're just frantically digging up any leak articles you can find to try to justify a part of the point you were making, even if it wasn't a part of it really because you were going on about things being removed that were in the trailers

while also pulling out the most nitpicky things i've ever heard of in my life

really out here doing the most to avoid saying that you were in fact incorrect

[vocal tusk]

Like come on... this statement on different weather, map events, ETC may not even be false. When a game is being concepted and designed, of course they probably thought of having more weather effects, map changes ETC. Not all thing concepted make it into a product.

People posting stuff like this, with their aim being "X game is bad because it didnt add Y thing" just makes me know they dont know how games are made (Which is fine, but maybe stop acting like you do)

[eager spire]

Yeah, but that's not even relevant to the initial conversation

which was that the game was downgraded from the trailers, and things got cut from them.

[vocal tusk]

Its not, they just moved the goalposts of the discussion as they couldnt find anything based on what I asked

[tawny carbon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tom-henderson-talks-about-the-development-and-future-of-battlefield-2042.524289/

[eager spire]

again

was any of this in the trailers

because that was what you were originally on about

[tawny carbon]

That’s what is last bit in my history for 2042

[eager spire]

was that the game got downgraded from the trailers and that things were cut that were shown in those trailers

also, resetera, lmao.

[vocal tusk]

The future:
The next BF shooter is being scoped as a hero shooter.
Most interestingly it may be bands of specialists/heroes fighting against each other and not armies, even further away from BF 2042.
The "connected unvierse" is basically adding depth to the specialists.
A BR will come in the near future, not next 6 months but vague timeframe.

I know its an old article and almost all of this info is out of date. This is still funny tho

[eager spire]

it wasn't like that, clearly the game was downgraded.

[tawny carbon]

Yea. Thats one of the websites I found. But saw it interesting when I saw it first time tho

[eager spire]

okay but you are still wrong

[tawny carbon]

Aye. Tom essentially isn’t wrong tbh

But HZ flopped on release.

[eager spire]

except he was because none of that was in the game, nor was it in any of the trailers

therefore you can't say it was downgraded from the trailers because nothing that was shown in them was cut.

[tawny carbon]

Did you not see the 2 links above that one?

[vocal tusk]

Everything he said there could very easily be pieced to gether and not entirely true. Im not saying it not true...but lots fo it is educated guesswork

[tawny carbon]

Clearly not

[eager spire]

Ouija. You are moving the goal posts.

[tawny carbon]

He is a insider

He knows more details. Compared to us

[eager spire]

this you

[tawny carbon]

Not all have to be true. But true enough

[eager spire]

i know you forgot, this was like 50 or so minutes ago

but come on

[tawny carbon]

You clearly didn’t read the 2 links above that I posted

Before the latest link

[eager spire]

I did read them, but I don't care because you were claiming that things were cut from the trailers.

[vocal tusk]

Those links dont explain anythign of relevance to stuff shown in trailers not appearing in game

[eager spire]

You have failed to show anything that was in the trailers that was cut.

So, you are wrong.

you posted those links in an attempt to distract from that fact.

[tawny carbon]

I was talking about this. Not the trailer

[eager spire]

damn that's crazy because you also said this

which was heavily disputed

and you did not actually counter any rebuttals to this claim at all, instead you just posted a bunch of links to leaks as if that proves the point

[tawny carbon]

Yes. I was still saying cut as in before launch

Not trailer

[eager spire]

I am reading the entire statement.

You don't get to pick and choose what you're on about.

[tawny carbon]

Clearly my first statement is more earlier than that one.

[eager spire]

You were on about how the game was downgraded from the trailers, you acted like there were things in the trailers that got cut, and when asked about this, you produced nothing, and then you started pulling out pre-release leaks that may or may not be even true.

[tawny carbon]

I clearly never said “trailer” in my earlier statement

Idk where your getting trailer from

[eager spire]

But you did say trailer in a later statement, which is when questions started coming up.

Because we were asking you what was cut from the first trailers they showed us

and you did not give anything.

[tawny carbon]

I never said cut content from trailer.

[eager spire]

are you deliberately being this dense

Did you not say this?

Was this not you?

[naive ember]

[tawny carbon]

Yes and I was talking about 2 different things. Not cut content from trailer.

[naive ember]

[tawny carbon]

But many things did get toned down. Compared to launch build of the game.

[eager spire]

my guy the statement implies that you think many things got cut from the first trailer they showed us, compared to launch. At best things got toned down, but you were never actually able to produce an example of something that was straight cut from the game after the first trailer.

[vocal tusk]

Such as...

[tawny carbon]

I went back. And gave you the 2 links I found ages ago in my history. About cut and toned down

[eager spire]

because not a single thing from the trailers was cut.

[eager spire]

trailer

[eager spire]

trailer

[eager spire]

trailer

[tawny carbon]

I was comparing to live game

[vocal tusk]

Irrespective of trailers...nothing in those links states anything regarding cut content or features that were ever actually developed and in the game

[eager spire]

TRAILER.

[eager spire]

you were comparing trailers to live game

[tawny carbon]

It still got cut before launch

[vocal tusk]

How do you know

[eager spire]

You're taking leaks as definitive proof

you're lost.

you got nothing.

[tawny carbon]

They on had the idea in hand. But can’t accomplish it due to deadline basically and hardware limitations

[vocal tusk]

So the same as every video game ever

[eager spire]

How do you know the building crumbling thing from the tech demo was planned for 2042?

You don't. People guessed it was, but nobody outside of DICE knows for sure, and none of them are gonna say.

[fervent rose]

it was an engine showcase

this convo is silly

[tawny carbon]

Basically. But. I wonder if they cut last gen out of its development. It could happen

[eager spire]

no it wouldn't because it ran like ass even on next gen on launch

[tawny carbon]

Dosent mean they have to show in 2042 literally

[fervent rose]

there's no chance they could have had 128 + high levels of destruction on a PS5

[eager spire]

2042 was before the PS5 right

so it would've been late PS4?

[fervent rose]

ps5 came out in 2020

2042 was 2021, right?

[eager spire]

okay nvm

[vocal tusk]

Would have been designed before PS5 released, but they would have ad dev machines all that time

[tawny carbon]

A year after

[eager spire]

was mistaken, i forgot when the PS5 came out.

[fervent rose]

but either way, i dont believe its even that the ps4 held it back. the 128 number is insane and could never have worked with the destruction stuff they showed

ps5 couldnt do that.

[eager spire]

PS5 could barely run the game.

Like, the game ran like ass on launch.

[tawny carbon]

For 128p ye. Unless they end up cutting 128p and make it 64p only for release

[vocal tusk]

We know this because BFV was just fine on the PS4, same with BF1 and most people here would tell you that those were better looking/playing games

[eager spire]

I'll say they looked better, but better playing? nah.

[fervent rose]

they both have working mouse so yeah they do play better

[tawny carbon]

BF1 looks really good compared to BFV and 2042 in general

[fervent rose]

design wise i like 2042's core gameplay but the technical side is a joke

[eager spire]

okay true, but that's a low bar to clear

it shouldn't have even been an issue in the first place

[fervent rose]

it's the worst bf game they ever made as far as technical stuff goes, its such a shit product

[vocal tusk]

Feeling (Movement) and era wise I prefer 2042. But experience wise (What you do in a game of conquest to achieve victory) BF1 and V are far better than 2042 IMO

[eager spire]

BFV movement is fine.

BF1 movement is ass but it could've not been ass if they didn't nerf the slide like 3 times.

[fervent rose]

i probably prefer bfv movement but i also like the bunny hopping stuff in 2042

bf1 movement today is pure torture

[tawny carbon]

I like 2042 overall since it’s modern setting with some futuristic tech. Enjoy the movement as well. But BF1 felt great especially with operations. Looks beautiful asf also

[eager spire]

BF1 movement is BF4 movement but worse

[vocal tusk]

I dont like most of the specialsts, the ones I like are basically what classes of past games would be.

I also find that 2042 has a pretty bland gameplay loop. Every round you play as an engineer for example mostly plays out the same

[fervent rose]

bf4 movement with all fun taken out

[eager spire]

because they removed everything that made BF4 fun

[fervent rose]

bf3 without any ability to make a play = bf1 movement

[tawny carbon]

If they restricted weapon categories to set classes. To more like BF4 style. It prob play abit better overall. Especially with the class rework

[fervent rose]

yeah specialists suck. im talking core shooting / moving stuff

[eager spire]

BF1 is also BF4 but worse in terms of shooting

[vocal tusk]

Its fine, but nothing terribly special

[eager spire]

because DICE had a grand revelation while making BF4

They removed visual recoil.

[tawny carbon]

I don’t mind the specialist in 2042. It plays well. Puts the said classes in depth abit more to roles

[eager spire]

Best decision they ever made.

10/10.

No notes.

Then they made BF1 and forgot about that.

[tawny carbon]

Visual recoil is the best. Glad they added it in 2042

[fervent rose]

I think it'd play out so much better with real classes and limitations instead of the excessive freedom of choice we have in 2042

[eager spire]

ah yes, i love not being sure where my shots are going and having my gun bounce around randomly while i'm in a fight.

very fun

i love not being able to aim properly.

because my character is too afraid to tightly hold onto his gun

[tawny carbon]

You rather have a weapon feel fake compared to more realistic feeling like in irl

[eager spire]

I DO NOT PLAY A VIDEO GAME TO HAVE A REALISTIC FEELING.

[tawny carbon]

Have you ever shot a weapon irl?

[fervent rose]

bullets going widespread at the ranges they do in bf isnt realistic

[eager spire]

Yes. I don't care if that's not represented in a video game, especailly not an arcade shooter like Battlefield.

[fervent rose]

guns actually have lower recoil/spread irl compared to bf

they do have MoA but bf spread is like MoA x5

[eager spire]

well yeah, but they do that for a reason

so there's more to gunplay than just holding M1 and recoil control, especially at distance. 2042's launch is a perfect example of why they do it like that.

[vocal tusk]

It's more than just this. It stretches to maps, map layouts, spawns, vehicles, vehicle loadout and spawn timers too.

There are loads of little annoying things about 2042,but I'll not go into them now. Haha

[tawny carbon]

Still feels amazing to have that feeling to the weapon. But I played 2042 enough to the point. Visual recoil dosent bother me anymore. It’s second nature. But still brings me into the game more than having it bland asf

[eager spire]

with BF1's sound design it'd be fine to not have visual recoil.

and it'd make for a less annoying gameplay experience.

[fervent rose]

well yeah, basically everything is wrong in 2042 in an either huge way or small way

[vocal tusk]

I'd still prefer actual recoil over visual recoil always tho.

[tawny carbon]

BF1 have random recoil. Or spread from 2042

[eager spire]

the guns do have actual recoil, the actual recoil is just exaggerated by the visual recoil.

[tawny carbon]

True but 2042 still have that recoil you can predict compared to unpredictable recoil

[fervent rose]

guns dont have "uncontrollable recoil"

why is this your desire

[vocal tusk]

Yes, I just mean that instead of adding visual recoil, I'd prefer them add more actual recoil.

[fervent rose]

they design guns so that they actually shoot where you aim, ya know

[eager spire]

I mean, most people are not gonna like if BF had like, PUBG levels of recoil.

[fervent rose]

pubg wasnt even bad. just vertical recoil

you could spray with scopes

[pliant bluff]

I could probably swing it if the atmosphere was right

[eager spire]

yeah but a lot of it.

[fervent rose]

but the hrec was no big deal at all

[eager spire]

like, 2042 makes it so controllers have less recoil.

[fervent rose]

bfv had more hrec than pubg

[eager spire]

We're not talking about a playerbase that appreciates high recoiling weapons.

[vocal tusk]

No, but still I'd prefer recoil I can learn and counter myself. Which is not governed by fake visuals to make my recoil seem worse than it is, or make my weapon appear to have more recoil than it does.

[fervent rose]

i'd be down for a PUBG style battlefield but idk if it would go over

it might suck

[eager spire]

firestorm

[fervent rose]

no i mean the gunplay of pubg (which was much harder than bfv gunplay)

[vocal tusk]

I just want BF4 2.0 haha

[tawny carbon]

Tbh. All what visual recoil does is adds punch to the weapon and bridge a skill gap abit more for players. It also helps teach players. Not to full auto and know how to semi/burst weapons at range

[tawny carbon]

Same. BF4 2.0 or remastered

Fuck. I’ll take a remake for the game at this point

[vocal tusk]

Not specifically the game, but take everything that game had in a systematic level...and give me a modern version, expanded upon.

[tawny carbon]

Tru tru

Copy and paste it. And add more to it.

Hopefully it don’t have the worst launch and get sued like it did.

[fervent rose]

you can still play bf4 just fine. and imo leave those maps in the past

they can do better

[tawny carbon]

BF4 maps is good. Just need a lil touch up to them

[vocal tusk]

Combined arms from ground, to land, to air, to sea. I miss naval combat in BF 2042 so much haha

[tawny carbon]

2042 have naval combat?

[vocal tusk]

Hook me up to Paracel Storm 24/7

[lavish patrol]

I really like BFV but it's hard in NA because there's barely any servers up in this region

[fervent rose]

yeah, it's been killed off by cheaters over the years

[tawny carbon]

I see servers up all the time on PC. I just never play BFV. Cuz I don’t like it personally

[lavish patrol]

And too many tryhards who think their family's honor is on the line

[fervent rose]

whatever chance bfv had to grow naturally was decimated by cheating

[tawny carbon]

^ that’s any game in the world

[lavish patrol]

Yeah BFV's cheating scene was bad

[tawny carbon]

Very bad in general

[lavish patrol]

Funnily enough. My personal experience is I rarely see, if at all, any cheaters in 2042.

[tawny carbon]

Fax

[fervent rose]

they do exist, but they are quite rare

[tawny carbon]

New game compared to an old game. Big difference tbh

[lavish patrol]

Why cheat in 2042 when you can do that in CoD?

I suppose

[fervent rose]

i think i only ran into 2 cheaters on the same day one time in 2042

whereas in bfv that was normal

2 cheaters a day would be a small number for bfv lol

[lavish patrol]

I got sniped once from long distance in 2042... I thought it was a cheater... it was GrndpaGaming

[vocal tusk]

I've seen 3 obvious hackers in 2042. All were banned after being reported.

Probably there are lots of safe hackers, who just play like a normal dude and use hacks to assist. The 3 mentioned above were obvious rage hackers.

[tawny carbon]

I only seen one. Invis cheater my whole time playing since beta for 2042

[lavish patrol]

Sniped by GrndpaGaming... I'm not even mad... I sadly didn't make the youtube clip.

[tawny carbon]

Get sniped by him instead

Just for the clip

[lavish patrol]

Never underestimate the old man

[vocal tusk]

Anyways, I'm cautiously optimistic for the next BF game. Everything said publicly so far ticks many of the boxes I want from a modern BF game.

[tawny carbon]

I just want another BF4

[fervent rose]

it is funny how much of a course correction it is. but they are saying the right things

[lavish patrol]

Dice better deliver... because I keep hearing praise for Delta Force... despite having glaring similarities to 2042.

[tawny carbon]

But imma pre order next game anyways

[tawny carbon]

It’s a Chinese copy pasta of 2042 tbh

[vocal tusk]

Delta force is more competion for COD

[lavish patrol]

And people didn't seem to care about that one bit

[fervent rose]

eh

DF is trying to carve out its own niche

the bf mode isnt their main focus

[tawny carbon]

Also steam fest is upsetting tbh compared to last beta they had

[fervent rose]

the extraction mode is their main game

[lavish patrol]

Yeah it's their tarkov mode

[tawny carbon]

Tru

[fervent rose]

which is very fun. and i hate tarkov.

i put 100+ hours in the old playtest of DF playing both modes. its a lot of fun

[vocal tusk]

It is a pretty bland game when put up against past BF games.

It only seems good compared to 2042, and even then it lacks a lot of polish, and seems like it will only have 4/5 "Battlefield mode" maps at launch.

[lavish patrol]

Well DF got my attention... because CAR-15

[eager spire]

i mean it's the same build as the last test

[tawny carbon]

And it’s more buggier than the beta

[fervent rose]

idk why people were expecting content

[eager spire]

no, it's literally the same build

[fervent rose]

the "early access" is in like a month

[tawny carbon]

That’s why I said it’s upsetting

[eager spire]

the devs even confirmed it is the same build.

[fervent rose]

they just wanted to open the playtest to everyone that didnt get a chance to try it

[vocal tusk]

People expected it because they said there would be new maps and modes in the beta/demo for next fest.

[eager spire]

i don't believe they actually said that

[fervent rose]

i dont recall ever reading that being confirmed but i dont know for sure

could also be lost in translation

[tawny carbon]

For many past beta testers. Is upset for steam fest due to nothing changed and updated

[lavish patrol]

Didn't they just say they are just opening the game up for Steam fest?

[eager spire]

yeah

[vocal tusk]

There should have been a giant asterix next to that statement tho, saying only in China

[tawny carbon]

Yes only for Steam fest

[fervent rose]

but those people are going to play the game in December either way

it's such a non issue

[lavish patrol]

Well... I'm more excited for the paid campaign they're making.

Black Hawk Down was my childhood

[tawny carbon]

Still. They say all the changes snd show nothing for it. Thats the issue

[vocal tusk]

But it's free, so will be something to play while I wait for the next BF game.

[eager spire]

yeah cause all of that is on the chinese early access build, and that stuff hasn't been optimized or localized yet.

[fervent rose]

you'll get to see all the stuff in a ~month its not a big deal

[lavish patrol]

And sadly, the next BF will be done without Michael K Williams. God rest his soul.

[tawny carbon]

They also said themselves. All attachments and weapons will be unlocked. Yet it’s only weapons unlocked

[fervent rose]

that one definitely annoyed me

but imo another lost in translation moment

[tawny carbon]

The community is very vocal about the steamfest compared to past beta

[fervent rose]

i expected having everything unlocked in the BF mode and then nope

just gun unlocks, not attachments

[tawny carbon]

The community is very vocal about that towards devs

[fervent rose]

kinda made no sense to have a week long test and still have attachment grind

[vocal tusk]

They need to stop the social media hyping and just make a good game tbh. They keep saying things and the more they say, the more pressure to deliver. Like all these dev blogs where they promise the world, but they aren't going to deliver this perfect game like they are hyping.

[fervent rose]

the game is good

[tawny carbon]

Couple people actually talked to them. They stayed silent. For not unlocking attachments like they said, nothing new. But have a polished build ready to go before steamfest

[eager spire]

inb4 no updates game dead

[fervent rose]

it's going to do just fine on release

might not be another Apex but it'll do fine

[vocal tusk]

It's honesty fine. A solid 7.5/10

[fervent rose]

the tarkov mode is at least an 8/10 for me

the map design is really good

[tawny carbon]

Yet. They didn’t unlock any attachments and gave us the same exact build but buggier than beta release

[vocal tusk]

I cant stand it cos the ttk is insanely fast.

[lavish patrol]

I gave it a try. Honestly surprised at how smooth the game is.

[vocal tusk]

Maps and all are good, but PVP gunfights just end immediately.

[lavish patrol]

Few stutters here and there, but nothing to cry about.

[tawny carbon]

It’s smooth. But community is upset for no changes. But no ALL attachments unlocked like they said in their official posts for steamfest.

[vocal tusk]

The armor and ammo systems are unnecessarily complicated.

[fervent rose]

i wouldnt call it complex tbh

[tawny carbon]

To much balancing for them to deal with

[vocal tusk]

It's not, but the complexity they have is not needed.

Like what's the point in purple armor if I can be 4 shot regardless of wearing that armor or not?

[fervent rose]

i think the "complexity" is fine but the balance was a bit off on the high end ammos

[lavish patrol]

I do agree that the ammo system is unnecessary

[tawny carbon]

You come in as a noob and get one shot instantly

[fervent rose]

i dont really expect perfect balance from a first playtest though

[tawny carbon]

Perfect balance to them

[fervent rose]

and it might never get better, but we'll see

[vocal tusk]

Well this game is 3/4 years in dev already, with probably 1000+ people working on it haha. I expect some things to make sense.

[tawny carbon]

It won’t get better unless community complains about it.

[lavish patrol]

That in itself is tough because Asian devs in general have a tendency to tunnel vision in what they plan for the game

[fervent rose]

you also have infinite down pickups and 1 full revive, i think thats part of the math on fast ttk

[vocal tusk]

I just dislike that type of gameplay.

[fervent rose]

it's better than DMZ imo

or warzone

[lavish patrol]

Oh way better than Warzone

[fervent rose]

it plays so much better, its a lot more fun

[vocal tusk]

Make gunfights actual fights. Not first to see and shoot wins. There is currently no room for skilled countering atm.

If I wanted that, I'd play tarkov

[fervent rose]

tarkov has way more "insta kill" gameplay than DF

[vocal tusk]

It does, but it's not all that different

[tawny carbon]

DF can insta kill people

[lavish patrol]

I just could not get into Tarkov

[fervent rose]

nah, 1 tap random headshots like in tarkov dont exist in DF

[tawny carbon]

Yea you can

Just run a high dmg weapon and highest ammo.

Or go around and knife people

Knife is deadly asf

[fervent rose]

cant act like gold ammo of DF is going to be the standard gameplay experience

[lavish patrol]

Knife in any shooter is deadly asf

[fervent rose]

the auction house was faked in the test so you can buy an infinite amount

[tawny carbon]

It will be. Highest ammo puts out more dmg to highest quality armor than weak starter ammo

You can one shot anyone. Or knife them. Knife works through highest quality arm

[fervent rose]

so i played a lot

[tawny carbon]

Go in with nothing on. Ez loot of you make it out alive

[fervent rose]

i never once got 1 tapped by a random headshot spray

not a single time did that happen

[tawny carbon]

I played abit

[fervent rose]

the only time i was 1 tapped was gold sniper ammo

[tawny carbon]

I did one taps and got one tapped

One day. I spawned in. Not even 5 mins later. I got one tapped for 4 lives in a row.

No one was near me. The 4th time. I ran up to fight boss. Noticed there was 2 people. Killed one and one tapped by another person. As I put couple bullets into him.

He looked back and tapped my ass dead. I was gone and killed my squad mate with me instantly

My squad mate called out him being one tapped also

[lavish patrol]

I like DF's tarkov mode simply because it is so accessible

[fervent rose]

tarkov, without the masochism!

[lavish patrol]

Indeed

[tawny carbon]

I enjoy it. But don’t like ammo quality in it

[fervent rose]

also you get into matches quick which is much better

[tawny carbon]

Ammo quality. Makes it very unfair

Not balanced one bit

[fervent rose]

i made the same complaint in the DF suggestion box about high end ammo, but I also think the auction house being faked made the gold ammo very plentiful and it might not be in the real game

[lavish patrol]

Agreed. I think playtest just made gold ammo too plentiful.

[tawny carbon]

Still is an issue in general even if it’s hard to buy or make them

Quality ammo will be a ongoing issue no matter what they do

[silent perch]

can anyone help me pls, playing on pc but recently started getting in game latency spikes. everything looks and feels fine then bam it lag spikes or something.. struggling to pinpoint the issue. any tips?
500mbps down/80mbps up internet,
12700k + z690 asus
sapphire 7900xtx
32gb 6000 ddr5
1tb gen4 nvme for boot
2tb gen4 nvme for games
bios, drivers, software all up to date.
thanks

[wooden moth]

conquest 128 https://discord.com/channels/140933721929940992/909508268114735144

[valid orchid]

Anyone getting on in the next 20 minutes??? I'm a medic ❤️

[winter citrus]

Can anybody help me with portal?

[near silo]

I can help with hazard zone

[arctic grove]

2042 is ass

[eager spire]

what else is new, Anonymous.

[lavish patrol]

We know

[pliant bluff]

Finally I am home from work, it is now time for bf2042

[rich bone]

anyone on 2042 and wanna squad up? 18+

[silent perch]

is there a dedicated help page for pc setup does anyone know?

[vital quail]

Could try in #general or #technology

[silent perch]

i got moaned at for asking in technology lol

i thought this group would be the best place to look for help but just get pms telling me 2042 is rubbish lol

and i cheat cuz im on pc haha. kids will be kids

[next onyx]

That's really weird to get random dms from users since there are many pc players in regards to that.

[naive ember]

Havnt had a dm in years

[fickle wharf]

i have dms blocked from none friends lol

[naive ember]

[wise heath]

that’s sad

[pearl ridge]

God I fucking hate Orbital

It’s especially bad with actual objective based modes like Control because half your guys are guaranteed to be sitting on the tower doing sweet fuck all

Seriously did they ever consider the implications of their map design when they made it

[sleek thorn]

You’d be surprised that 90% of the maps are actually 1:1 recreations of Google satellite imagery

No map design at all

[naive ember]

There's nothing wrong with orbital

[mental delta]

Sorry what ?

Manifest is kinda crap

Rest is ok

I don't really like the season 1 map

Can't recall its name

[sleek thorn]

Spearhead?

[mental delta]

No the one in Canada

Spearhead is the best seasonal map to me alongside the season 4 one in South Africa

[sleek thorn]

It’s okayish feels like a grassy Silk Road

[mental delta]

Idk I didn't like it

I hope BF6 has more remakes

I'd like Operation Firestorm

[pearl ridge]

And that’s an awful idea.

Funny thing about war, it isn’t actually fun. Trying to completely replicate any aspect of it will just make the whole experience suck.

[sleek thorn]

I’d like Propaganda

[sleek thorn]

That goes against this whole series’ existence

I like your artwork btw

[mental delta]

Ho yeah really fun map

A bit sad we never got it ever again

Not many people played it anyway I think

Because it was in a DLC

[void gorge]

And to think that this map has one of the best effects in the franchise in my opinion, which is when that rocket explodes and it's a sight to see so much that there's a moment of the explosion where you can even see the shock wave of the explosion across the map

[pearl ridge]

The rocket blowing up actually improves the map because it scatters debris around to provide some much needed cover

[naive ember]

Every map should have rockets

A mini one in redacted

[robust ether]

Exposure

Personally it's one of my favorites, the verticality makes it unique

Redacted, Haven, Exposure, Orbital, and Reclaimed are my favorites

[naive ember]

[void gorge]

but the point is that most of the pieces of the rocket after it explodes simply disappear from the map for obvious reasons of not weighing as much during the game or until someone who understands programming comes here and tells me that I'm wrong and presents sources that I'm wrong

[pearl ridge]

The pieces that stay land in scripted locations.

[void gorge]

but then it would be a "boring" situation because on most maps there are tornadoes and people complain, of course the pieces of the rocket on the map consequently generate "shelter" as our friend said earlier in the chat but I think the rocket has to be in a map that makes sense to him

[wise heath]

It’s fun but the people that just have to snipe for whatever reason ruins it

[naive ember]

Sniping is part of the game bud

[void gorge]

and on what basis do you say this? Even because, for example, the directions in which the tornado goes on the map, there really is a defined schedule there but definitions of where the pieces will fall? I think you are wrong friend

[pearl ridge]

Because the debris isn’t physics enabled

Otherwise you would just push it around with whatever was handy

[chilly jacinth]

It's exactly like levolution

Scripted events that happen the same way every time

[void gorge]

one of the worst maps in my opinion, EA tried to "recreate" some map from bf 4, probably and the design is horrible and that's why before making any changes to the game, it depends on what the change is, EA should do, for example, a vote with the community

[robust ether]

huh

When the rocket explodes while there's a tornado happening is genuinely one of the better levolution events in the series

probably cause it doesn't actively make the map worse

[warm nebula]

Guys I have a question. I haven’t bought battlefield yet but it is on sale on Xbox for -90% so I probably will buy it and there are 3 versions: battlefield for Xbox one(€6.99), battlefield elite upgrade + Xbox one and series x(€9.99) and battlefield for Xbox one and series x(€7.99). Is there a big difference between Xbox one and series x?

[robust ether]

Xbox One is basically a version with worse graphics and you can't play 128 player modes

[warm nebula]

Okay thanks 🙏

[robust ether]

Ofc lol

[chilly jacinth]

Smaller player pool too

[warm nebula]

So I should probably buy a version with series x

[robust ether]

Mhm

[warm nebula]

Thank you for your quick response 🫡

[robust ether]

Absolutely!

[naive ember]

Get the old gen version

[robust ether]

😭

[naive ember]

[mental delta]

It's not bad but lower part of the map isn't exploited much

[void gorge]

It may be a "silly" question but... when we are a driver in a vehicle and turn on the radio, does everyone in the vehicle hear the sound of the radio or just the person who called? And when I'm down and a guy who's not from the platoon comes to help me and I thank him, can he hear the soldier's voice even though he's not from the platoon?

[chilly jacinth]

Yes everyone hears it unless they've turned off music sounds

[arctic grove]

Cry more lmao

L game anyway

Can't believe they dropped support for battlefront 2 for this dog shit game

[wise heath]

Says one crying right now

[mossy wolf]

hey what do i need to do to unlock the AK5C it says i need like x amount of underbarrel shotgun kills or assists

[wise heath]

Lole keep crying about soy wars

go have your soylent somewhere else

[arctic grove]

dOnT sNiPe On ThIs ShOoTeR bCz Im ShIt hahahahaah

[acoustic seal]

i'm tired of mechanics that make shitters relevant and sniping is one of them

can't position? can't track? just sit in spawn and play a point-and-click instead

[arctic grove]

Seems like a skill issue

Ever heard of bullet drop

I guarantee u wouldn't be able to sit in spawn and effectively snipe

Do u expect them to quick scope u like its cod?

[sleek thorn]

You really gotta call us out huh?

[arctic grove]

128 lobby's are dogshit anyway like who actually likes them? The maps aren't made for them

[wise heath]

mr anon is crying he’s flustered

[arctic grove]

Lol

[tawny carbon]

Nobody said you have to play 128p anyways

The game don’t force you to play it

[sleek thorn]

Maps

[acoustic seal]

bullet drop is not relevant within like 150m which is spawn-to-flag distance on every gamemode except maybe cq

[tawny carbon]

They reworked all the maps. So it works fluently 64 and 128p

With more stuff to them

[acoustic seal]

this is flat out wrong lol, they WERE made for 128 which is why everything is so spread out and empty and miserable to play on

[sleek thorn]

Back in 2021 it was open season for Snipers

[tawny carbon]

Ehh. Not really. Unless you are sniping from a far distance. Then sure

But you can say that for any battlefield game tbh

[sleek thorn]

Casper and MacKay players with the NTW-20 were mind numbing

[tawny carbon]

How so?

[acoustic seal]

the "reworks" made specific points easier to play on, they did nothing for overall map flow

like that discarded flag with the car junkyard

[tawny carbon]

They changed a few map points for flow

[sleek thorn]

On Xbox One, your render distance is very limited due to the size of the maps

[tawny carbon]

That’s last gen compared to new gen

Last gen have skill issues due to hardware limitations

[sleek thorn]

Since the updates post S4, it’s practically unplayable

Literally ruined the experience

[wise heath]

yeah stay quiet kid

[tawny carbon]

How did it “ruin” the experience?

Is it because the game is demanding in general or what?

[sleek thorn]

Models are “invisible” as the game is very bloated with polygons and other assets that the console can’t handle it

[tawny carbon]

That’s last gen consoles

If you have a new gen console. New gen or last gen version of the game. Runs way smoother and faster than last gen

[wise heath]

Is it possible for a game to do like 360/ps triple era of graphics but just add a ton of content? Idk how to explain

[sleek thorn]

Still sad they never balanced the jet gameplay… like the SU-57 still bullies the f out of the F-35

Like… why no F-22 and SU-75?

[wicked marsh]

Ngl if u now how to play the vtol right I usually kill most su's in a dogfight

Unless u got some real sweats

[acoustic seal]

for all the things planetside 2 did wrong, vtol vs vtol fights were amazing

[pine roost]

I can’t believe how long they had imbalanced turn rates, it’s incredible

And even now their roll speeds still aren’t quite equal

[wicked marsh]

oh yeah that was insane lmao

jets still feel like bricks compared to old battlefields tho

[fickle wharf]

the fuck are you smoking
f35 bullies the russian wunderwaffe

[pine roost]

The drift just does not feel good at all

Even bfV did that better

They aught to make it feel just as tight and responsive as bf1 or 4’s. Having to counter drift by angling your lift vector for a few seconds out of a turn just to move straight feels so much worse than simply being able to exit the turn and fire

[wicked marsh]

Yeah

Atleast it isnt as bad as it used to be

jets legit felt like flying a house

[pine roost]

The changes during the flashpoint season were the first time they felt at all bearable lol. Took them so long

[wicked marsh]

god bless the fact they atleast go rocketpods

before we had the su70 we had like no infantry attack options

other than the 25mm

[sleek thorn]

Not on Console

[fickle wharf]

??????

[sleek thorn]

We can’t turn 180 degrees in a flash

[fickle wharf]

last gen?

[sleek thorn]

Xbox

[fickle wharf]

so on controller

[sleek thorn]

Yeah

[fickle wharf]

no room to tilt the joystick more 😄

[sleek thorn]

No mouse or War Thunder flight chair

Just straight Spain without the S

[robust ether]

Trust I'm speaking from experience 😭

[naive ember]

Wait a sec.. old gen has access to Discord?!

[sleek thorn]

Ever since MS bought Discord sadly… Yes

[paper storm]

anybody have any Idea on how to fix the lovely unable to load persistence data error message whenever I load into a match?

[sleek thorn]

PC players, help this fellow ^

[acoustic seal]

with what? dice decided you can't play the game today, go outside

[paper storm]

good one mate, very helpfull

[acoustic seal]

there's no fix lol idk what you want me to say

wait 5-30 minutes and pray

restart the game/console a few times, log out and log back in

[paper storm]

so it's a common issue then?

bit of a joke

[acoustic seal]

it's something that happens occasionally and there's no obvious cause or fix

[void gorge]

Oh, thanks for the explanation, but on what basis do you say that?

[chilly jacinth]

On the basis of reality

[hoary sentinel]

thats a pretty strong basis

[void gorge]

How do I upload video here? I ask this because I usually record while playing and there was a moment when I exploded several enemy mines but I saw that I didn't gain xp and then I was asking myself "EA where is my reward???? ????"

[fickle wharf]

u sure you those where enemy mines? u get 20xp for destroying them

[chilly jacinth]

You can destroy friendly mines which is probably what you did

[hoary sentinel]

mfw i blow up friendly mines and dont get xp for sabotaging my teams defense

[void gorge]

The point is that the game simulates a real war and I also say this because for example when you are down and someone from the squad comes to help you and you use those communication options in the game to say thanks even if you have other allies nearby who are not from the squad, they can't hear their soldier talking

[void gorge]

Yes, you can even differentiate between friendly and enemy mines because there is a kind of colored indicator on top of it, blinking and when the color is blue it is because it is friendly and when it is red, then you can destroy it

[glass imp]

cool

[void gorge]

If you want, I can send a video of me blowing up an enemy mine and not getting any fucking rewards and that's really discouraging because if it turns out that the rewards system is bugged and until today they haven't fixed it, then I think the franchise should go into the hands of any company that actually values ​​the game

[hoary sentinel]

no

cause we've been over this previously in the other server

[glass imp]

he really missed out on that 120 xp

[vital quail]

1400 hours btw

I mean with a 0.39 kd, he ain't getting xp from anywhere else

Needs that 5 xp per mine or whatever

[chilly jacinth]

Crazy stats

[naive ember]

0.39 kd

[vital quail]

Been trying to think of a situation so dumb to post but can't think of anything remotely close to what he posts

I guess there is a lot of downtime to think about insanely miniscule things when you average less than 7 kills a match

[chilly jacinth]

Lots of sightseeing

[wise heath]

Jesus Christ just how

[arctic grove]

how do i talk to mods

from this server

[wise heath]

I can only think the guy just has very bad ping and continues to play multiplayer games for whatever reason

[hoary sentinel]

🤷‍♂️

[hoary sentinel]

he's said a few times that he connects to eu servers via vpn

but his internet is very fast, trust

[wise heath]

Probably better than mine

I’m usually 60-70

Though get 30 in Siege for whatever reason

[vital quail]

Is the bad ping a metaphor for the slow connections that occur in their brain

[naive ember]

Too scared of NA apparently

He would get rekt even harder

[hoary sentinel]

also because no one plays 2042 in south america i guess

[naive ember]

They all play fifa

And F1

[hoary sentinel]

shhhh dont mention fifa, its a trigger word for him

[vital quail]

3k hours and winless online I bet too

[minor stream]

Honestly I think the map quality and quantity is a bit off this game, I enjoy 2042 myself but compared to BF1 maps, the quality and quantity is way off. EA clearly said save our efforts for the next round because adding Haven, Redacted, Reclaimed was surprisingly unimpressive but I understand they save all their efforts for new game in 12 months

I say that because in the last month or two Breakthrough servers will have times where less than 16 people playing now in the last couple months especially, and that’s on NA with cross play on

[hoary sentinel]

i see

they did spend the better part of its lifecycle revamping some of the maps though tbf

[minor stream]

I’ll be fair when I see 20+ solid maps on BF 2025 lol

Portal was also abandoned, they just whiffed massively is all - new team and pandemic part way through and then not wanting to do further investment into a whiff - I get it

[fickle wharf]

2042 map desings were cucked by last gen and thats a fact

[hoary sentinel]

fr

last gen absolutely holding the next gen ambitions of these games back

[fickle wharf]

If piss 4 n sex box one were left behind the maps could hold more shit in them

[minor stream]

Good point, I hate including prev gen in development and the costs

When they update for newest maps like Haven do they get added to PS4 / Old Xbox

[fickle wharf]

Yes

[minor stream]

Disgusting

No wonder they don’t want to further invest

[fickle wharf]

The content is the same on all platforms

[minor stream]

Nightmare-ish

[vital quail]

I mean haven is a small map

Why not include it for previous gen

[minor stream]

It constantly slips my mind they did PS4 & Old Xbox so when I remember they have to push updates for 5 systems I feel gross and bad for the developers

[void gorge]

A while ago there was a bot where you would send him a message in DM and then you would receive support, but now that EA has apparently taken control of the server I think they "ruined" things and I say that because there on the side where it shows the positions in which members are the bot appeared all the time and now

[fringe spire]

eod bot is the goat

I just made it crawl up to an enemy tank

started cooking the tank

pilot came out, I killed him while he tried to kill me

[arctic grove]

@hybrid ginkgo fix the fucking servers

[fringe spire]

and my bro came to the tank and stole it

[hoary sentinel]

me when i immediately open up a request with aggression

good job Mario

[void gorge]

Quality, mainly, is something that greatly affected the success of 2042 because when it was released you had to run and run around the map until you found some action or called a vehicle (and you had to wait to be able to call) and this horrible design was undoubtedly a shot at EA's own feet

[hoary sentinel]

anyway if theres an issue its better to open a ticket with support and report the issue rather than just @'ing random employees like tk suggested

[arctic grove]

ok i was just joking

[hoary sentinel]

hard to tell these days

[void gorge]

I just hope you don't get punished for having the audacity to talk to an administrator like that? and tell him to do the least which is to keep the server organized

[arctic grove]

i joke