battlefield-2042

[tawny carbon]

The game was built on console and ported over to PC.

[eager spire]

is that really an excuse when every other BF game has mouse input that works

[fervent rose]

yeah and since bf1 they all feel like console ports

[tawny carbon]

They never fully fixed pc side of the optimization. It took them a hot min

[eager spire]

even then they all had functional mouse input.

[severe hill]

Even consoles can feel jittery at times

[tawny carbon]

Many battlefield games are console ports to pc. I know BF3 is if not the only one that is a PC port to console.

[eager spire]

.

[tawny carbon]

I mean. 2042 was rushed dawg

It was in the works for 3 yrs

a lot of the features that were "removed" simply weren't re-implemented after the engine upgrade, and a number of features didn't make it for launch because of the crunch

[severe hill]

Well the game was made with a half baked engine

[tawny carbon]

Essentially, yes

[severe hill]

To be honest it's not all of Dice fault but the leader ship was gone

[clever cargo]

Hello there, do Reckless's epic rush portal crashed ? see 0/120 players 😦

[eager spire]

I donno, I'm just not in the mood to be cheritable to the multi-million dollar company when they rush something and release a product with BROKEN CONTROL INPUT.

[tawny carbon]

If they had more time to work on the game. It would’ve of been better overall.

[eager spire]

Anyone else does that shit, they get torn to shreds.

You never hear the end of it.

DICE does it, it's not that big of a deal?

[tawny carbon]

Dice knows how to recover games compared to many other games

[severe hill]

To be honest what's yall opinion on this new AI tech for Frostbite, I think it would be good to help simply hard code for some complicated feature implementations but to building a whole game just by telling a bot to do it is really risky.

[eager spire]

I can't wait for AI generated maps that are terrible

[tawny carbon]

They been testing AI tech since BFV but it’s not bad overall

[eager spire]

nah they've been testing it since BF1, they were working on the bot AI, that's why there's a bunch of weirdo players on BF1/BFV.

:V

[tawny carbon]

BF1/V don’t have AI in MP

[eager spire]

you ever seen someone who just has a bunch of numbers for a name

[frozen loom]

Can the nightbird repair itself?

[eager spire]

who's to say that isn't AI

[tawny carbon]

That’s because EA changed their name. The player prob have sum bad in the name. It’s normal to see that

[sullen mulch]

I'd rather have a team of AI in 2042 then to deal with ho bad players are these days in this game

[tawny carbon]

It’s like destiny, they name you Guardian#### (#= random numbers)

[severe hill]

"Hey AI, make the cursie missile shake a building apart!"

[fervent rose]

i think the server population problems would have been less apparent if they were doing the delta force hidden player meme

[eager spire]

they didn't want people knowing they were testing it

obviously

didn't wanna make it too obvious

[tawny carbon]

AI were never implemented into live game. Only dev sessions for testing purposes for the engine. It first and only got implemented into 2042

[eager spire]

as far as you know

[tawny carbon]

The number as player’s gamertag dosent mean they are a bot.

[fervent rose]

yeah i genuinely dont believe they're in bfv. if they are, they are so much more advanced than delta force's, and that's what, 6 years ago?

[tawny carbon]

Bro believing in conspiracy theories

[fervent rose]

from the map alone you could tell delta force has bots

[tawny carbon]

Same with any other game with bots

[eager spire]

yeah i'm not talking shit at all. :V

[wise heath]

TAKE OUT THE AEK

WHY IS IT IN EVERY GAME

[tawny carbon]

Bots also don’t move like a real player. Don’t shoot or do things like a real player would do. Even controlling a vehicle or aircraft

[fervent rose]

the one thing im sus about in bfv is the 1 hp memes

i figure theres some bullshit at play

[severe hill]

Until you fly a heli and they becoming Israel iron dome and shoot you out.

[eager spire]

What the fuck are you talking about

[wise heath]

So true

[fervent rose]

the bots are godlike at RPG'ing slow moving helis in 2042

i think thats the joke

[vital quail]

99% sure they don't have aircraft takeoff from the ground because they couldn't get the AI to do it without dying most of the time

[wise heath]

AEK is op

remove it please

[vital quail]

Every time I see a bot in a jet on the ground they just sit there

[pseudo quarry]

aek is the greatest ar

[severe hill]

Then abuse it

[wise heath]

No honor in using a glitched gun

[severe hill]

That's how skill play works

Find the meta or broken exploit

[wise heath]

one time I saw a bot got a fat choppi stuck sideways against a wall

[wise heath]

No morals

[pseudo quarry]

i been having a blast w the ak24

its satisfying to use

[severe hill]

Is it me or do I always like to realiisticly use weapons that are dedicated to the faction I play

[acoustic seal]

there are many problem guns in the game and the shitty ported aek isnt in the top 20

maybe its way better with console reduced recoil or something

[wise heath]

Bf1 and cod WAW, every now and then I use the standard issue rifle of the faction im playing

[wise heath]

take out the aek

op in every single game

[severe hill]

Shit even players still think the BFv bombers are still op even thought they nerf the shit out of them.

[wise heath]

aek = ruined game

[eager spire]

oh yeah i forgot controllers get less recoil

[vital quail]

None of they vault weapons are even very good

[wise heath]

please no aek in bfvi

[pseudo quarry]

always thought bf was more of a keyboard game ngl

[eager spire]

M16 is apparently good

[severe hill]

UCAv = happy Zelenskyy

[fervent rose]

acwr is the good vault AR

[vital quail]

Dogshit sights

[eager spire]

it is. when the mouse input works.

[wise heath]

svd is pretty good

[fervent rose]

the rest of the vault ARs were meh

[wise heath]

but has no attachments

[severe hill]

I like the m4

[fervent rose]

m16 WAS good for a few months but then they rebalanced everything

when reclaimed came out i think. since then acwr is the only good vault AR

[severe hill]

For the next Battlefield should they make weapon restrictions for factions. For example the USa can use NATO only weapons while the Brics use their weapons?

[wise heath]

Like bf3

[eager spire]

nah that's dumb

[wise heath]

It’s better like that

just make them equal footing or contradictory

[eager spire]

they tried that with Hardline, factions were initially limited to specific weapons till you got enough kills with a gun, then you got a "license" to use it on both factions

[fervent rose]

but then you have half the content

[wise heath]

bf3

[vital quail]

Dumb idea

[eager spire]

it was stupid and didn't benefit the game at all, not even a little bit

[wise heath]

it’s for larp purposes

[fervent rose]

faction based guns was removed for a reason

[wise heath]

the whole point for games is to be someone you’re not

might as well faction restrictions

[vital quail]

Let me friendly fire my teammates that wish for that then

[fervent rose]

some faction restrictions are great. like vehicles.

[wise heath]

nothing better than teamkilling

[pseudo quarry]

a self revive would be cool if no medic is around

[fervent rose]

no, it wouldnt

its called respawning

[pseudo quarry]

no way yoyo ur a genius

[wise heath]

short respawns please

[eager spire]

nah.

[wise heath]

like two seconds

no more than 5

[fervent rose]

cant have that and squad spawn in the game

[wise heath]

hate bf1, 10s respawn and still spawn so far away from the flag

[pseudo quarry]

that zoom out animation you get when you die pisses me off

[severe hill]

Nope if you die you either get revived or die

I hate how far you spawn from an objective when 1 enemy is contesting it

[pseudo quarry]

i hate it too but its reasonable

[wise heath]

it’s not

especially in bf1

basically spawns you at another flag

[pseudo quarry]

oh damn that sucks

i never played bf1

[severe hill]

Or spawns you near an enemy who happens to be their running around map or get hit by a vehcile coming out of the backrooms.

[pseudo quarry]

operation locker fourwheeler

[wise heath]

yeah or the line of sight of some hill sniper

[severe hill]

Cqc never worked in Battlefield.

It just a way to xp farm and unlock weapons

Faster

[wise heath]

meh prefer it over large conquest

[pseudo quarry]

ik but its fun as fuck

until its you getting spawn trapped

[wise heath]

Other than bf2042

[severe hill]

That's when you have to go full Ukraine and use UCAV'S to bomb the offensive

[wise heath]

All I do now in the other battlefields I only play tdm or CQC maps

[pseudo quarry]

bf3 tdm was so fun

i dont think ive ever played tdm on 2042

[wise heath]

I can’t stand running for two minutes, get killed by an AEK, wait 10 seconds and still spawn far away from a flag

[wise heath]

It’s kinda bad, has the spawn issues of tdm Hardline

[pseudo quarry]

aek be living rent free in your head lmaoooo

[weak vector]

I hate frontlines

my teammates always stay in the back

[wise heath]

For more than a decade

[severe hill]

I just watch our spawn gimme flag because once your team is distracted on the center objectives, the flags behind them is not a priority .

[weak vector]

I always get the fucking idiots who never push

[fervent rose]

its really bad. they picked bad spots and the spawns are awful

[weak vector]

Typical DICE. When have they done anything good for this game

[severe hill]

The specialist ruins it too

Tdm never fits a Battlefield, it was just their to snatch some cod kids.

[wise heath]

It’s more mindless fun than anything from cod

[fervent rose]

it's an fps game tdm is fun unless the game is bad

[wise heath]

Yeah that too

[fervent rose]

it has fuck all to do with cod

its a fps game

[pseudo quarry]

is xdefiant doing well i forgot ab that game

[eager spire]

no

[severe hill]

Until Sbmm or shitty matchmaking pull up

[wise heath]

apparently hacker problems

[pseudo quarry]

typical

[wise heath]

or lack of server browser and you get queued to empty lobbies but after 3 tries you find an almost full lobby

[severe hill]

I'm glad to be a console player, they better add cross console play for the next Battlefield.

[pseudo quarry]

they needa start handing out life sentences to hackers atp

[wise heath]

yeah

[severe hill]

Deliver them unlimited supply of treadmills to their front door steps and some slim fast.

[eager spire]

xDefiant is just not a great game. More hero shooter than anything else.

[fervent rose]

xd is just about the least inspired game ever

[severe hill]

Bodycam is the go to game

[pseudo quarry]

xdefiant feels like overwatch and cod to me

[severe hill]

Go pro shootouts

[severe hill]

Because it is

[fervent rose]

it has nothing to do with overwatch

its just cod with dumb abilities

[severe hill]

More like R6

[eager spire]

Bodycam is R6 Siege for people that like GMod Realism videos.

[wise heath]

seems lame

[severe hill]

Imagine a go pro mode for Battlefield.

[pseudo quarry]

sounds cool

[fervent rose]

bodycam looks cool, but its probably ass

[eager spire]

the amount of sight sway on that? No thanks.

[pseudo quarry]

VR battlefield

do not let a vet get their hands on it

[wise heath]

it’s just another hey this game looks aesthetically different from the rest

[eager spire]

It's cool but I would not consider it a serious FPS. It's one of those "realistic" type games, whch basically means it'll be terrible for actually taking seriously.

[wise heath]

then be mediocre at everything else

[severe hill]

They inspire realism, but trying not to be fully realistic

[fervent rose]

yeah its a spectacle game

[eager spire]

it's realistic enough to be annoying.

[pseudo quarry]

arma 3 is as real as it gets

hell let loose is fun sometimes

[severe hill]

Squads too

[wise heath]

how

[fervent rose]

go join the military

[wise heath]

I don’t like games where I get instant killed by getting shot at the toe

just to wait 2 minutes to respawn

[severe hill]

Bridgades, promxity chat, calling in your teamates who are flying jets to drop bombs.

[wise heath]

another 4 minutes to walk somewhere and then just to get killed in less than .0001 seconds

[pseudo quarry]

running for 5 mins straight just to die by someone hiding in the bushes

[wise heath]

Idk about squad but hell let loose is gross

[fervent rose]

playing an MMG in HLL has gotta be the least skillful thing ive ever done in an fps. spray at moving target, dead. sorry dude you'll have to walk another 7 minutes after respawning

[weak vector]

damn, AK-24 sucks

[wise heath]

very accurate but slow fire rate is never good

[severe hill]

The TTk is annoying too and the healing process.

The aim down sight too

[weak vector]

yeah the ttk is so bad on this gun

even my pistol kills faster

[eager spire]

milsim/realistic shooters are just not great for people that wanna like, get better at playing a game.

[wise heath]

better to use it as a fully automatic dmr

at long ranges

[severe hill]

Battlefield is more of an in-between of milsim games and arcade games.

[wise heath]

yeah their idea of getting better is to have more patience

[weak vector]

it's funny how "long range" in this game means something entirely different to me, as someone who enjoys Squad more

[pseudo quarry]

the vhx is still good

[severe hill]

The explosions in Squad are phenomenal

[eager spire]

it's barely realistic. It's an arcade shooter with big maps and vehicles.

[weak vector]

I think 50m is long range for battlefield, but that's close to me

[fervent rose]

it hasnt been "simulation" in a very very long time

[weak vector]

I usually engage people at the same distances I engage in Squad

[wise heath]

id say 100m

[severe hill]

I love seeing the cruise missiles glide across the map when my squad is trying navigate towards a town in Arma.

[pseudo quarry]

thats dmr range

[weak vector]

same, but gun "balance" in this shitty ass game dictates otherwise. G428 was nerfed down to a close range "dmr"

[pseudo quarry]

dude that fucking g428 made me delete the game

[wise heath]

me with AEK in bc2, bf3 n bf4

[weak vector]

g428 is balanced imo

[fervent rose]

aek in bc2 was just another gun

[severe hill]

When i used it after the nerf, I thought i was drunk when I shot it

[wise heath]

no

[fervent rose]

m60 reigned supreme

[pseudo quarry]

i never used that gun thats how much hatred i have towards it

i lied i have 2 kills with it

still fuck that gun

[wise heath]

also I feel like all the Russian vault sights are off sighted, if that makes any sense, it’s like they shoot a little bit off to the left

[weak vector]

it does yeah

I like to feel "immersive" and use Russian sights on Russian guns, but they really suck

[eager spire]

no they don't

[severe hill]

2042 guns in general look cool visually, but their execution is devastating towards their real lifr counterpart.

[wise heath]

they feel so inaccurate

[fervent rose]

vault stuff is so jank

[wise heath]

I remember when mtar had the most recoil I’ve ever seen in a game

[severe hill]

Portal weapons felt hollow at best.

[fervent rose]

like it's a separate game in terms of quality on the vault sights

[pseudo quarry]

i wish all vault weapons had the mastery camo

[severe hill]

Feels like holding an airsolf gun

[wise heath]

Bf4

even paintball guns feels more powerful than anything from bf4

[pseudo quarry]

bf4 had a good ttk

[weak vector]

yeah ttk in bf4 is pretty long imo

[eager spire]

it's fine

[pseudo quarry]

it felt just right imo

[eager spire]

I don't think TTK in BF4 is that long unless you're just missing shots

[pseudo quarry]

the ar-15 is god tier

[wise heath]

I can’t stand bf4 cause how the guns feel

[pseudo quarry]

best bf game oat

[severe hill]

The net code is still bad

[weak vector]

I typically engage past 100m so bf4's ttk probably felt like to me for that reason lol

[eager spire]

yeah nah damage drop off means that guns are doing the least damage they can possibly do at that range.

[weak vector]

at some damage models I think it was 12.5hp, and I was trying to hit people across the other side of wake island

[eager spire]

You gotta be closer.

[eager spire]

why

[fervent rose]

why wake islanders, why

[hard jay]

Bf4 sucks

[eager spire]

also nah it's like 18 HP at least

that's the least damage an AR can do

[severe hill]

Bullet spread too

[weak vector]

they were out in the open and I couldn't resist shooting them 150m away lol

[hard jay]

Bf1/5 better

[eager spire]

that's not the game's fault.

[wise heath]

Bf4 really sucks

[pseudo quarry]

bf4 guns played their role so perfectly

[weak vector]

k

[hard jay]

Their role of not working past 50m

[severe hill]

So you want laser ahh weapons.

[fervent rose]

bf4 maps suck

[hard jay]

I want weapons to ahhhh work properly

[weak vector]

I would have liked it if bullet velocity was faster

[hard jay]

Weapons don't have magical spread like in bf3/4

[fervent rose]

there isnt a single bf4 map i ever want remade

[severe hill]

You expect all weapons shoot above long distance

[fervent rose]

even lockers would need a heavy redesign

[pseudo quarry]

0/10 rage bait

[fervent rose]

its not ragebait

you can get mad but i fucking hate bf4 maps

[hard jay]

Yeah everyone that disagrees with you is ragebaiting

Bf4 maps are the worst in the series if you don't count 2042

[eager spire]

Maps are one of BF4's weak points yeah

[severe hill]

Hardline had the best cqc maps in my opinion

[wise heath]

yeah I liked hardline maps except that forest one

[severe hill]

I got Bad Boy vibe from the street shootouts.

[hard jay]

I mean it's urban focused so it makes sense

[eager spire]

Well yeah cause Hardline had more of a focus on infantry gameplay while having basically the same gameplay as BF4.

which was good

[wise heath]

The only thing I hated about the hardline maps was the cheeky out of bounds spots

[severe hill]

Downtown where you can zipline to either the US bank tower or the Plaza towers

[hard jay]

I like hardline due to it's setting

Rarely do we ever get games set in the US

[wise heath]

yeah cops and robbers

In the US

was cool

[wise heath]

I can only think of og MW2 n MW3

and Far Cry 5

[eager spire]

towers suck ass though.

[severe hill]

Levolution was actually beneficial rather than a gimmick like bf4

Tower crane block off the major intersection and provided infranty with a better traversal around the main sksycapers.

[wise heath]

Other than the Shanghai tower, the levolution events were meh

in bf4

I don’t remember any of the dlc ones tho

[pseudo quarry]

me neither

[eager spire]

ehhhhhh i donno it was still mostly a gimmick

[severe hill]

Landslide,

[wise heath]

I think there was an avalanche one?

[severe hill]

Blow up an already destoryed plane.

[weak vector]

some of it felt beneficial like that dam in that one map, and I liked the ship crashing into beaches

[severe hill]

The Dam did not do shit

[wise heath]

never got to play bfh dlc maps sadly

[severe hill]

It blcoked off a raod nobody used

[weak vector]

really, I felt like it worked well a few times

[wise heath]

yeah all that did was add some cover in a spot where no one even goes

[weak vector]

I guess I was the only one who used those roads lol

[fervent rose]

yeah because why have games set where we are instead of awesome exotic locations

[wise heath]

The ship was an annoyance to get to that flag

just a massive obstacle in the way

[severe hill]

I like the secret levolution with the Haini Resort cargo ship explosion.

[wise heath]

there was a radar dish that fell right? I don’t remember that doing anything either

[weak vector]

well hopefully they bring levolution back but make it good

[severe hill]

Rogue transmission

[fervent rose]

i'm sure they'll have more maps like Orbital with some spectacle shit

[wise heath]

the rocket ship feels boring

[fervent rose]

yeah i dont really find it compelling but ship go fly

[acoustic seal]

it was always a gimmick

[wise heath]

yeah it’s cool I guess just doesn’t do much

[acoustic seal]

people get so hung up on destruction like its not a fucking marketing gimmick from 15 years ago

[fervent rose]

it makes the battle dads get erections

[wise heath]

I prefer just outright weather changes over levolution

[severe hill]

Imagine your fighting at a sea port and if a rocket hits a war house full of nitrate, the port blows up, the levelutions is the nearby buildings getting destoryed, shatter windows, vehicles flip, and dust kicked up the air. The aftermath shows a large crater of where the warehouse once stood with smoke covering the map and car alarms going off.

[wise heath]

it might be cool to have day n night transitions

[eager spire]

like I said I think DICE just does that to feel something

[pseudo quarry]

boy do i got a game for you

[wise heath]

hmm pardon..?

[fervent rose]

only if the night is fake night. real night maps are so bad

[eager spire]

You see that in The Finals, which was Ex-DICE.

[pseudo quarry]

i hate that desert map on 2042

[fervent rose]

battlebit night modes are a perfect example of hell

[pseudo quarry]

you are asking to get shot

[eager spire]

I love mandatory night vision

[severe hill]

I forgot about Battlebit

[wise heath]

All the redesigns for that map was terrible

[severe hill]

Containers

[eager spire]

I also love 256 players stuffed in a map that's WAY TOO GOD DAMN THIN

FUCKING NAMAK

[weak vector]

everyone did

[acoustic seal]

destruction is miserable in the finals because it means you can't ever hold a position if the other squads have explosives

[eager spire]

why would you ever wanna hold a position just get better lmao

[wise heath]

the finals has meh destruction

[eager spire]

OH WAIT

[wise heath]

idk why people praise the destruction of that game so much

[severe hill]

The destruction doesn't look good compare to Battlefield.

[eager spire]

MOST OF THE MAIN GAME MODE IS WAITING

[fervent rose]

finals game modes are ass

pure ass

[acoustic seal]

yeah i complaiend about this shit in the beta and people just called me a whiner

now nobody plays it lmao

[wise heath]

Everything breaks the same way every same time

[eager spire]

I LOVE HAVING TO SIT AND WAIT FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN

[severe hill]

But the scale with the combined realistic graphics due to the cloud computing helped make that type of destruction possible.

[wise heath]

so true

[eager spire]

AND THEN SOME RANDOM TEAM CAN JUST BLOW THE THING I'M WAITING ON THROUGH THE FLOOR

[wise heath]

I’ve been playing it lately

really terrible

I hate wave respawns

Cash out is literally whoever third parties wins

[fervent rose]

thats every game with more than 2 teams

[severe hill]

The game lost its spark because of the meta's and the unbalanced light, medium, and Heavy.

[wise heath]

Guess so yeah

power shift is which side can most spam the most equipment

[wise heath]

Light does too much imo

yet they nerf the fuck out of heavy

[severe hill]

I hate the TTk but it has it's reasons.

[eager spire]

i don't mind long TTK.

visual recoil is horrendous tho

[severe hill]

Unless aim assist.

[wise heath]

lights can turn invisible, can emp, highest dps, move fast asf

[weak vector]

I prefer a good medium ground for ttk

[eager spire]

unfortunately i am on keyboard and mouse, i don't get that privilege.

[weak vector]

not too fast like squad, not too slow like halo

[fervent rose]

depends on the pace of the game too. i was just going to mention halo too

[eager spire]

Halo's TTK is fine.

[fervent rose]

right, halo's is perfect for halo

[weak vector]

still wasn't the game for me

and even if it's fine for halo, I implied it for battlefield. Guess I gotta be more specific

[eager spire]

BF4's TTK is fine.

[weak vector]

you don't get what I was trying to say, but okay

[eager spire]

in fact, for the most part TTK in BF is fine. The only real issue with Battlefield at times is aiming.

[fervent rose]

bf3's was also fine

[wise heath]

suppression was the problem in bf3

[fervent rose]

honestly every bf game has fine ttk outside of the BFV dogshit patches

[wise heath]

I like suppression, miss it, but was too much in bf3

[eager spire]

and also spread to recoil conversion.

[weak vector]

I just hated the spread and visual recoil in most battlefield games

[eager spire]

the main problems with BF gunplay are usually things like suppression or visual recoil

or spread to recoil conversion

[severe hill]

I like the visual side of suppession, but how it effects your way of shooting your enemy.

Nnaaaaaaaaa

[eager spire]

BF4 removed visual recoil entirely. and it was the best idea they made.

they then forgot about it when making BF1.

[wise heath]

Yeah same here

[fervent rose]

which didnt affect half the guns, and you could still laser beam people with 3x LMGs at far ranges

[wise heath]

Even made you deaf in bf3, was cool

[fervent rose]

bfv guns arent inaccurate

[weak vector]

yeah I'll admit bf4 did some pretty good stuff there

[eager spire]

still, having any form of recoil be random is a terrible idea

[fervent rose]

spread leads to the same random outcomes

[eager spire]

Spread doesn't impact my ability to see the enemy.

[severe hill]

Spread impacts how you engage the enemy.

[wise heath]

Bf1 had random recoil climb right?

[severe hill]

I think so

[eager spire]

yeah, basically in if you burst or not

[fervent rose]

i dont see how the reticle bouncing around a little bit makes you unable to see the enemy

[wise heath]

it depends how

[fervent rose]

bf1 has worse visual problems than bfv

[wise heath]

If it’s like modern the finals or the newer cods it’s awful

[eager spire]

oh yeah i know, BF1 has some horrible fucking lighting.

[fervent rose]

no i mean when ADS using sights

[eager spire]

looking out of windows is basically impossible.

[wise heath]

but like the older cods or fields it’s okay

[fervent rose]

like using any sight in bf1 is ass

[wise heath]

There was a setting for that

[eager spire]

that's visual recoil, which is ass.

[wise heath]

I forgot what it was called tho

[fervent rose]

i want to uninstall every time i use anything besides a trench variant

[wise heath]

Dannyonpc made a vid for it

Genuinely useful vid

[eager spire]

like i said, DICE removed visual recoil in BF4, and that was the best idea they ever had. I don't know why they didn't do that for BF1.

[fervent rose]

but regardless i'll take some reticle bounce over bf1

[eager spire]

the reticle bounce actually effects where your shots go though.

[fervent rose]

bf1 is the worst of all choices

[eager spire]

because you shoot from the center of your reticle, rather than the center of your screen.

which means if your reticle is off center, you're shooting off center.

[fervent rose]

yes. and with knowledge of gun ranges, i can play around this

[wise heath]

Fuck can’t find video, sorry

[fervent rose]

like if somebody was at 100m and I have a 3x STG, I'm not just full spraying. but I can tap a few time and then hose them

[eager spire]

it's like how technically visual recoil can be played around as well by just knowing where the center of your screen is. Like yeah, you can do that. but it's annoying that the game actively forces you to have to do that.

and people often just sidestep that by having a marker on the center of their screen anyway.

[fervent rose]

but like a Lewis Gun 3x? you could easily contest snipers

easily.

full auto, counter sniping without issue

is it more noticeable on highest rof guns? yeah no shit. play around it.

[eager spire]

like, I think BF4 was just the best iteration of BF gunplay. Spread, but with no visual recoil. If it had no suppression, then it would've been peak, but it did, so.

[weak vector]

I heard rumors that the next dice is trying to go back to bf4 days

[fervent rose]

i think bf4 has too much spread and the hipfire leaves a lot to be desired.

[eager spire]

that's what they're saying.

[fervent rose]

bf4 could also do with some more recoil

[eager spire]

I think the spread is fine, you're just spraying too much.

[weak vector]

Yeah I saw some of the updates, but I'll believe it when I experience it. DICE lost all of my trust

they can claim what ever they want. Players have to play the beta to see if they are lying, again

[eager spire]

also hipfire is fine just run a laser, again, you shoot from screen center.

[fervent rose]

yes, I do want my full auto gun to not turn into a joke after 5 bullets are shot

[wise heath]

Bf4 feels awful

cant hit a thing

[eager spire]

burst you fool.

[fervent rose]

yes, no kidding

[wise heath]

even bursting nothing

[fervent rose]

everything is bursting, bursting over and over until the end of time

[eager spire]

well, close range isn't.

[fervent rose]

but bf4 maps are huge

[wise heath]

I don’t mind bursting but bf4 just feels like my bullets don’t exist

[eager spire]

Max damage range on most BF4 AR's is like, 15 meters or so.

[wise heath]

15?

[fervent rose]

bf3 felt better

if bf3 had modern netcode, it'd be more fun to play than bf4

[wise heath]

That feels very short

[eager spire]

Venice Unleashed exists. guess how popular that is.

[wise heath]

Like I can see that in siege but battlefield? I’m surprised

[fervent rose]

i wasnt trying to say people in 2024 are actually going to play bf3 again

i mean if it was as easy as booting up bf4... maybe

[eager spire]

I mean it is exactly what you want, BF3 but it supports 60/144 hz servers.

[fervent rose]

but VU? hell no

too many steps and there's nobody playing it

[eager spire]

it's just that most people don't really want it that bad.

[fervent rose]

if nobody's playing it, why download the program

[eager spire]

last time i tried playing it was a couple months after launch. No NA servers.

[fervent rose]

i downloaded it a few months ago, same deal

i wanted to see their bots. they were awful lol

[eager spire]

I never bothered with the bots because I knew they were gonna be terrible.

[fervent rose]

i just wanted to see how they worked

[eager spire]

Same shit's gonna happen with Warsaw Revamped.

Bots are gonna be ass.

[fervent rose]

they're so much worse than even 2042's though its laughable

like some shit from 15 years ago from a bad game

[eager spire]

well you have to consider, they're made by people who are not professionals.

[fervent rose]

it's also just that trying to have good bots in a bf style game is almost impossible

[eager spire]

yeah. maps are too large, there's different vehicles to consider.

[fervent rose]

there are REALLY cool mods for single player modded tarkov though.

like the most impressive ai stuff ive seen so far

[eager spire]

yeah but Tarkov is not trying to be a massive combined arms shooter

[spiral flare]

Any games better than battlefield 2042 maybe?

[fervent rose]

no but its got these giant maps that are pretty free form

and the ai actually uses cover intelligently, its wild

[eager spire]

you ever play Balatro

[spiral flare]

I dont play any games similar to battlefield 2042

[eager spire]

it's not even a little bit similar to 2042

[spiral flare]

But i play MOBA alot

[fervent rose]

many games better than 2042 yes

arguably all of them

[eager spire]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379780/Balatro/

[weak vector]

I wonder if the next bf game will let us carry over our Battlefield Coins

[spiral flare]

I meant who is similar to bf 2042

[fervent rose]

if you play moba go get a deadlock invite

probably 1000% better than 2042

[eager spire]

In fairness, you did ask about games that were better than 2042.

[weak vector]

for a card game, that has a surprisingly high amount of positive reviews

[eager spire]

yes because it's fun as hell

[wise heath]

no aek in bfvi pleases

[fervent rose]

fine. A-545 instead.

[hard jay]

Why do you want the gun remoced

It only matters how they balance it

[vital quail]

Skill issue sounds like

[wise heath]

the only skill issue is people who say skill issue having no good comebacks

[wise heath]

take it out the game treyarxh

[eager spire]

what's the issue?

[next onyx]

Saying skill issue just isn't constructive.

[wise heath]

Dice

[eager spire]

oh it's the AEK guy. uh, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about in any respect, he doesn't even know what company is behind the BF games, and to be frank his viewpoint is ridiculous and not worth giving constructive feedback to.

[wise heath]

oh it's the EOD guy. uh, this guy doesn't know what they talking about in any respect, they doesn't even know what company is behind the BF games, and to be frank they viewpoint is ridiculous and not worth giving constructive feedback to.

all of this becasue I don’t circle jerk bf4

[acoustic seal]

the aek isnt even good in 2042, i dont know what kind of crack you're smoking

unless its some weird console-only gun like the avancys for whatever reason

[eager spire]

smoking that shit that turns you into the average reddit user complaining about BF4 sweats

[patent pivot]

Whatever pal

Don't get on my nerves

[eager spire]

or what. say I do so anyway. what're you gonna do about it.

[patent pivot]

So be it

Don't interfere

[wise heath]

average experience with @eager spire

[hard jay]

worst bf game

[hard jay]

theres a reason why he got banned

[wise heath]

oh? lole

[acoustic seal]

the 2042 aek's soft stats are dogshit in a game where most of the guns have no recoil or spread, on maps where you need no recoil or spread

and i wouldnt be surprised if something like cc/short barrel m5a3 fires faster anyway

[eager spire]

could probably look that up

nvm sym.gg still hasn't updated their 2042 weapon stats.

I would say that's annoying but i think that's just funny at this point

[acoustic seal]

there's some guy with this info in a hidden google spreadsheet

let me see if i can find it

[timid inlet]

Is okay to lose to opponent,

must not lose to fear.

[eager spire]

...yeah

[acoustic seal]

yeah aek shoots at 900rpm while short/cc m5 shoots at 980 lol

[eager spire]

incredible, not even the fastest firing AR in 2042

[wise heath]

take it out

[eager spire]

why

okay good talk i guess

[eager spire]

botherbotherbotherbotherbotherbother

[acoustic seal]

the stats spreadsheet is in the automod filter

incredible

amazing

[eager spire]

i'd test to see if it just blocks anything from google docs

but i don't have anything on me to test that

yeah they block google docs links in general

i'm glad i had to wait 10 minutes to say that.

[vital quail]

3 hours later still yapping about the aek

[eager spire]

he's been at that bit for like a few days at this point

[lime fractal]

question I cant launch the 2042 on PC after downl;oading it, it sends me to EA launcher and then turns off

?

@cold bluff

I CAN'T JOIN VC CAUSE OF MAX AMMOUNT OF PEOPLE

[pearl ridge]

I really wish they’d fix the visual recoil on the SVD and M14. Too damn hard compared to other DMRs of similar power

[vital quail]

Isn't there also a bug when being shot at by the m14 it makes the same sound as an actual sniper shot

Get spammed by the loud ass noise

[hard jay]

terminal has audio issues

when shooting a gun

[void gorge]

I would like to know what some soldiers are saying during the game and I say this because I configured my game in a language, but sometimes during the game an allied soldier says something in a language that I don't know if it's Russian or what.

[sterile turtle]

When is Battle Pass coming out?

[vital quail]

There isn't going to be any more

[sterile turtle]

what???

That's sad news..

[reef cedar]

do you get anything with leveling online rank?

[vital quail]

? What do you mean

[pearl ridge]

I think there are level requirements to unlock certain weapons

Class rank has a couple of skins (one at mastery four, one at T1)

Vehicles unlock equipment based on level

But player level means nothing after a certain point. There’s a guy in my region with a stupidly high rank somewhere in the nine hundreds and he really isn’t all that good

I suspect he farmed the experience in portal

[grand arch]

Hey did you figure out what the problem is?

I formatted my windows,
reinstalled latest nvidia drivers
my CPU is 100% usage
gpu is 30-35% usage
Frames are between 20-25

I've an RTX3080 and I7 10870H. Wtf is this optimization? I've permanently quit my game unless someone knows any way to fix this issue. I remember the issue didn't exist 2 - 3 weeks ago, it all crashed only recently.

[still vault]

Shitty other games not utilizing your CPUs properly. Just be happy you finally get a game now that actually utilizes your hardware

[vocal tusk]

Would make sure other drivers, like chipset are installed and updated.

[pearl ridge]

Frostbite games have always been cpu heavy but 2042’s lack of proper optimisation really ramps it up

[tawny carbon]

Fr tho. Honestly. Pre cpu usage compared to optimized cpu usage. Made the game abit better and smoother overall.

[acoustic seal]

its not fixable, its just a thing dice did to the game and now we have to live with it

+50% time spent spinning the cpu for +0.1% performance gain

[robust vapor]

@next onyx aim better bro. you miss the shot you lose

[next onyx]

Haha

[timid inlet]

If we don't come down hard on these clowns,

we are gonna be up to our balls in jugglers

[gentle hinge]

what could be the ebst way to farm draugr unlicks

[naive ember]

[vital quail]

Solo matches against bots

[vital quail]

Load up spearhead solo

Don't even bother with going after other vehicles and just use HE on infantry

[gentle hinge]

Okay thanks

I felt likr air superiority is good too

All the assists and that

[pearl ridge]

I struggle to even get those guns to kill anybody at all

Even when they’re standing still it takes an awful lot

[uneven ibex]

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🎬 u/Lukesaint84

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[gentle hinge]

bro I spawn as RU on spearhead

@vital quail

I can’t spawn as US or what

3 times in a row RU

[arctic grove]

gonna need everyone to write me a 1000 word essay on whether I should use high power or close combat in the .50 pistol

oops, sorry. please

I'm kidding. seriously though. anyone prefer the slightly higher rate of fire with a little less oomph? I am teetering

[vital quail]

The range benefit from high power is so small

Cc has 1 more shot and higher rof

Still 1 shot headshot

[arctic grove]

thank you, @vital quail . Kinda where I was at, but I'm always scared to make a change.

2042 L game

So shit

They dropped battlefront 2 to work on 2042 hahahaha

And it had its highest player count at the time

I'm so glad my life hasn't devolved to the point where I waste my time going to places I hate to talk about how much I hate it. The clinical term for that is rumination.

It doesn't even rile me anymore when I see people do it. I just have this profound sadness.

I hope you get some help, weird guy.

[gentle hinge]

what’s the best loadout for draugr

like the grind is so hard just for that jdam im guessing?

or is napalm better

[vital quail]

Napalm is going to be more useful unless you are literally only going after vehicles

Jdam is good with hydra rockets but you are useless like 90% of the time while flying

Jdam has the blast radius of like a mini grenade

[orchid bobcat]

@gentle hinge did you manage to get over to US on spearhead?

[gentle hinge]

no clue how to

i left home

didn’t work tho

[orchid bobcat]

im pretty sure you can only play as RU ive launched it 5 times now and havent gotten US

[gentle hinge]

rip

[terse ember]

Anyone else is getting weird lag in north America?

[wise heath]

Not just NA

[wise heath]

Colonel 100s in battlefield tend to hit more often but miss sometimes

especially if they are vehicle only

get them out of their vehicle and you see they have god awful aim

[terse ember]

I see

[reef cedar]

based

[reef cedar]

i like using napalm on it, and thats basically all i use on it, but jdams are also extremely fun

[timid inlet]

Try or try, there is no do or do not

[last willow]

Luckily I spread my skills across every play type

[gentle hinge]

what are tbats

[last willow]

Vehicles, infantry, objective

[gentle hinge]

also which cannon is the best on it?

[eager spire]

implying infantry and objective skills aren't the same thing

[reef cedar]

sorry, thats*

i can't type

[gentle hinge]

Yo

what cannons are best on it? the main one?

[reef cedar]

yeah, main ones

[gentle hinge]

I watched people on youtube, their Draugr first person zoom in shows people in white white while my zoom shows them kinda grayish

isn’t it supposed to be thermal?

I can barely see the gray since the whole image turns gray

[reef cedar]

thermal for some reason only works within a certain range

[gentle hinge]

ah that’s why maybe

idk

[reef cedar]

but it's still a large range

get closer, see if they turn up white white

[gentle hinge]

It’s thermal by default tho right?

Like I’m not missing an unlovk or smth

[reef cedar]

should be default for the draugr yeah

[gentle hinge]

alright thanks

[vital quail]

Smoke grenades

[remote kiln]

there's no utility like that in this game

[tawny carbon]

That’s not a thing in battlefield set for BF4 with Dice LA Skin

[remote kiln]

if there was it'd be the most powerful thing in the game so thankfully

[wise heath]

WTF TREYARCH

CANT ACQUIRE A TARGET

Wasn’t there a thing called thermal camo for tanks?

In bf3 I think

[sullen violet]

Oh wait, thought you guys talking about bf4

[sullen violet]

Yeah

Think soo actually

[wise heath]

I checked

It’s in both

[sullen violet]

Yeah i am in 4 now

[wise heath]

I don’t really use vehicles tbh

[wise heath]

I assume it blocks javelins and that one recon gadget from locking on?

[sullen violet]

In 2042 i don't use them much, all the wierd cooldown etc... In like 4 i use sometimes/often

[sullen violet]

I really don't remember tbh

[wise heath]

They’re pretty weak in 2042

Doesn’t help that bots have aimbot for vehicles

[sullen violet]

I haven't had too much problems with AI vs my vehicle at least

[wise heath]

Not even with helicopters?

[sullen violet]

Not that i can remember 🤔 Only problem i have with helicopter is they are soo arcade like in 2042 hehe

[wise heath]

oh lole

lucky

like if I check my phone for a second I get blasted out from sky from a bot

😞

[sullen violet]

Rip

In solo or mp?

[next onyx]

It reduces the range they can be locked on.

[wise heath]

Both

[wise heath]

Ah

[weak vector]

Legit question, why is the overwhelming majority of the community literally (yes, I am using the word right) super bad at this game?

I'm on frontlines and EVERY. SINGLE. MATCH is a snowballed, imbalanced, steamrolling session

EVERY team I'm on cannot either attack or defend

and the matchmaking CONSTANTLY matches me with matches where the team is losing by a significant amount

I have to quit and re-queue many many times to get a team with a functioning brain

[light flax]

Sounds like a You problem...

[weak vector]

not my problem that matchmaking puts me on losing teams

[upbeat iris]

maybe the others think the same of you

yours is a relative concept

you end up in losing teams mostly because people usually quit the game when they're losing so they open slots for you

and guess what that free slot is on the losing side

[weak vector]

ah so that's how the matchmaking works

well thankfully this round is great. My team actually revives and supplies and covers each other

[upbeat iris]

no that's how it works when you join a match that has already started

that's why some games rebalance the teams mid-game

[weak vector]

by rebalance you mean shuffle around or something?

[upbeat iris]

yep

[light flax]

Your the type to rear end someone and say it was their fault, arn't you?

[weak vector]

?

[young panther]

give new bf right now i will pay $2 for it

[pearl ridge]

Frontlines only really worked in BF1 because of how its map design worked

They had trench lines to give approaching forces cover so they didn't have to run across the many flat fields of 2042

This is an issue that a lot of these modern setting games run into actually: they forget that we still build trenches

Because, big surprise, they're actually kind of useful.

[weak vector]

Whoa, someone with an actual good take here for once

There was a map in Squad where the attackers had to go through quite a decent network of trenches. Felt pretty intense and really fun

[mild crystal]

Battlefront 2 is wayyyy better than this game & ther dropped it for this

LOL

[rich bone]

Hey im having trouble with a error code, i just bought the game and ea help isn't helping at all, its anti cheat 67, ive installed the ea anti cheat so many times and uninstalled it from 2042 and it still won't work.

[lucid pendant]

what do you guys think the best asult weapon is?

[pearl ridge]

Oh please even at its worst this game is still better than Battlefront

You know, when it was first announced that DICE was handling the Battlefront project, there were some people complaining that it'd just be a Battlefield clone

That is exactly what it should be.

Because what we got instead is this horribly designed mess that only has one thing going for it: visual quality.

[arctic grove]

Ur crazy, have u even played the game.

They done so much to it and added so much, the game had the highest player count they ever had and then they dropped support to work on 2042.

2042 doesn't touch battlefront 2, battlefront 2 is actually a fun game and has a variety of game modes

It's basically battlefield in star wars

[pearl ridge]

If it was Battlefield in Star Wars I'd still be playing it

[arctic grove]

It is

So many developers left because they cut support for it when it was at its best, they had alot planned for bf2

And they cut it to work on this shit game

[pearl ridge]

The gunplay is mediocre at best, the movement is abysmal, the heroes are fucking annoying

[arctic grove]

Which has nothing on bf2

U just don't know how to play the game

[pearl ridge]

The star card system is always terrible

The most fun I ever had in the game is when they disabled heroes for a weekend

[wise heath]

That’s every fps game, always losing team yet you can do good, at this point I just team switch

[oblique vigil]

All for one and one for all

[safe skiff]

yss it is

[foggy hazel]

Hm the bf 2042 sws-10 weapon name in real world Sako TRG 42 nice copy:)

[pearl ridge]

They really should just use actual names again

It's not like they ever actually got in trouble for it

At least they're modelling them correctly I guess...

COD's weapon and vehicle models are atrocious.

[next onyx]

There's a lot behind it I don't believe you properly realise.

I believe Activision got in trouble for using the ACR's real name with full endorsement.

Gun copy right is a super obvious one.

But those costs can amount.

As a player I find it a little annoying but I don't believe it's ultimately detrimental.

"BFP.50" is the best name I've ever seen for a game in recent memory and I thought "Fennec" was a good name for the vector.

[pearl ridge]

Another reason why I like historical settings. Ain't nobody around to hold copyrights now.

[vital quail]

Might start playing angel just so I can drop crates on recon squadmates

[floral ivy]

why are ballistic shields in game it's a fucking joke

[fickle wharf]

skill issue

i stopped malding about dozers shield long time ago

[floral ivy]

it's literally garbage mechanic added for no reason

it's cringe af

[fickle wharf]

[floral ivy]

I like how the players don't have any skill and their only option is to use ballistic shields what else can I expect from bf2042 players literally npcs

dropping bf5 to produce this garbage must be really embarrassing

they even added maps where u can spawn kill enemies how nice

[fickle wharf]

will you go mald in the payday 3 server next about that game?

[floral ivy]

I did already

[fickle wharf]

[floral ivy]

ain't as bad as bf2042 tho payday3 is actually decent

[hard jay]

"jeez dude stop complaining about shit game design in shit games!!"

[floral ivy]

decent 30h of gameplay

[hard jay]

You're giving these poor billion dollar companies a hard time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[naive ember]

Alot are still playing payday 2 bud

2042 goat

Thank EA for this masterpiece

[floral ivy]

payday 2 was alright but there were lot of issues like dlcs u had to buy for normal game experience, and u never had enough supplies to tie up hostages. also PvE was garbage police officers survived so many hits to head or body I felt like shooting with nerf gun

[fickle wharf]

[hard jay]

Lower the difficulty blud

[floral ivy]

lower difficulties feel weird I get hit like billion times and my health is always full

[floral ivy]

I preferred stealth so it wasn't really something I cared about a lot

[gentle hinge]

what setting should I change to start seeing mfs from a longer distance?

Eith the draugr thermal

I was about to kiss the ground when they appeared

bro wtf is this shit going behind a building and the lock on still follows?

[vital quail]

Just shoot at anything white on the ground

Open the map and look to see where your team is focused and fly that direction

[weak vector]

wait, how do you team switch? I thought they disabled that option

[vocal tusk]

They never had it in 2042 in the first place

[tawny carbon]

Ngl, the whole team switching idea is broken and dumb. I never liked it. Be on the team that you joined in on

If you’re losing. Don’t be a low IQ player and swap to the winning team.

I’m glad it’s not available in 2042. I hope it’s not available in the next battlefield

On older BFs. I even seen full clan swap to one single team. Max I seen was like 8 people from one single clan. All lined up.

[fickle wharf]

in bfv you could swap teams on xbox if the enemy team squad was open and not full

dont think that works in 2042

[next onyx]

Kinda?

I think as long you're connecting to an xbox player.

[cyan ingot]

Does anybody else's EA anticheat have a second one that uses like 40% CPU?

even with the lowest settings its 95% CPU

it seems like the game wats my PC to be at 100% CPU all the time

[fringe spire]

having trouble seeing people in my friend list rn

anyone else

[cyan ingot]

CPU

AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 8-Core Processor 

GPU 0

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER

And 32GB of RAM

[waxen turret]

When do we get the first trailer from the new BF?

that would be cool 😄

[naive ember]

[next onyx]

Video settings don't mean cpu

[gentle hinge]

do I use repair system ir DRFM Jammer on draugr

I still haven’t unlocked CIX Valravn

[pine roost]

My guess would be June next year

[pine roost]

Why do you think it’s specifically early 2025

Was it officially stated anywhere?

And where’d he get that info

Maybe, but always question your sources ;)

[somber vigil]

does anyone know any working farming methods?

[spare quest]

bruh

[pine roost]

I’ve heard carrots grow pretty well in these conditions, just need some good land and some tools to grow em

[wise heath]

Maybe it’s a console thing, but basically you look for a profile that isn’t in a full squad and just join game, you join that persons squad and team

[wise heath]

If you’re losing, don’t be low iq by not switching team because being in a losing team just gives you anger

[tawny carbon]

It’s a video game, why get mad over a video game

[wise heath]

these ‘its just a game’ mfers, if it’s just a game then why shouldn’t I get mad

[weak vector]

I get pretty mad, but I'm trying to be less mad

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/why-mad-hockey-gif-13247833

[acoustic seal]

remington settled a lawsuit claiming their appearance in call of duty influenced the sandy hook shooting... somehow

that's why you don't see real manufacturer names anymore

[pearl ridge]

I'm fine with just accurate model numbers

[acoustic seal]

that still counts as advertising/placement i believe

[wise heath]

AI Overview
In a lawsuit against Remington Arms, the gun manufacturer that produced the rifle used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, the company was accused of marketing its firearms in video games to appeal to younger audiences:

so fucking lame

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thank you for taking what i said and checking it against a word puke machine

[wise heath]

shut up brony get the broom out

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Holy fuck the draugr sucks ass

Stock draugr

Snd they expect me to grind 500 kills with it

Fuck off

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Lmao
You can swap teams on 2042 xbox

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I wonder why other games can still use real gun names then lol

[wise heath]

It’s either the lawsuit specifically targeted activision due to cod being the biggest fps or Activision being cheap

[weak vector]

I think it's just Activision being cheap

[chilly jacinth]

It's Californian laws

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Not only that but it's the GTA situation of having like a seperate 'world'/'universe'... or some shit

[pearl ridge]

Problem is they don't even hire competent mechanical designers

So you've got stuff that visibly would not function

[echo yew]

californian laws + copyright

mfw HK copyrighted the MP5's silhouette

[pearl ridge]

Bloody gunsmith system does no favours

[echo yew]

but to california, a gun being in a videogame = advertising

which i mean... mw19 was basically a big HK ad making the mp5 the best gun by a mile

[pearl ridge]

Because now they're jamming incompatible components into completely wrong guns and cutting bits off that are core to their operation

[echo yew]

that's just SHG being goofy

[pearl ridge]

MWIII has a 'modernised' STG-44. Why on earth would I want this thing modernised?

[echo yew]

i think it's also comical how SHG just blatantly makes the advanced warfare/vanguard ww2 guns the best ones in their MW title

[pearl ridge]

Did the same with the Kar98. Why's it always the Kar98 in these games, anyway? You never see the Lee-Enfield or something, no.

[echo yew]

the one exception being the checks notes .... F2000 and an AR-15 chambered in 4.6

mw3 making the f2000 meta and having a 9mm conversion that was also meta will never not be hysterical to me

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delta force's is a lot more sensible. cod's gone off the deep end with the wacky guns

[pearl ridge]

Frankly I dislike the whole concept, period.

If it doesn't go on the rails it can go and get stuffed for all I care.

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right, thats how it works

its like Tarkov lite

[echo yew]

idk add gunsmith to bf25 just make it make sense

not a hard thing to do just dont do what SHG and 3arc do

...and infinity ward either tbh we dont need 25 supressors

3 at best

[fervent rose]

its simplified a tiny bit like you cant take apart receivers / uppers / lowers but the rest is pretty much tarkov gun building

[pearl ridge]

I think someone should make a system where the more heavily you modify your gun, the more likely it is to start failing on you

Because all those bits do not in fact magically go together

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what do you mean

[pearl ridge]

So you have to weigh up your performance bonuses with avoiding jams

[fervent rose]

it's all tacticool gear meant to make the gun perform better in combat

i mean maybe in some weird game where you can have 25 attachment slots sure

i'd prefer less of a clown show, just make some good looking guns and a system that doesnt turn them into ugly guns

[echo yew]

just do this

simpler attatchments

so no XFK-4500 Mk2 Sigma Barrel

just "long barrel" "heavy long barrel" "Collapsible stock" "Light stock"

you can have a bunch of them

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or do realistic attachments. like you can turn the mp5 into an mp5sd in Delta Force.

[echo yew]

yeah that

[fervent rose]

it's very simple and it is nice

[echo yew]

also i really dgaf about realistic gun names unless they go for stupid names

"lachmann sub"

hello i'd like to get a lachmann sub with extra cheese and no mayo

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i dislike them most of the time

sfar is wack, ill call it scar everytime

[echo yew]

SFAR at least is one letter off

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yeah but saying it out loud is awful

[echo yew]

TAQ V

i also hope the gun roster is interesting

hk433 my beloved

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the 437 is cool too. all of HK's modern guns should be there

[echo yew]

im gonna take a wild guess and say many 2042 guns will be in 25

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at least half yea

[echo yew]

remodeled likely

but they'll likely be there

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i mean if its 2042 assets lol

[echo yew]

except for the weird fictional ones and the AC42

i'd love the PBX being back

LWRC-45 is more aesthetically pleasing than the UMP i said what i said

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yeah its nice looking.

it's a monster in DF, smg45 i think it was called

[echo yew]

im guessing AK24, M5. SFAR, VHX will all likely be in the next battlefield

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rm68 too probably

[echo yew]

RM68, AK5 and AM40 maybe, AC42 no

[fervent rose]

rm68 is the coolest modern bullpup

[echo yew]

for smgs imma be honest its most likely that all of them

[fervent rose]

i could do without the bizon for a few years

[echo yew]

oh yeah the bizon is not gonna be there

but the rest

i would not be surprised if the BF25 smg lineup was just the 2042 SMGs with maybe 1 or 2 new ones

likely the MPX and a P90 or MP7

[pearl ridge]

2042 has very few actually fictional weapons

Technically that tube-fed auto-shotgun is an actual design that they just slapped a digital display on

But the bullpup pistol is straight up the Alternator from Titanfall 2

And the railgun speaks for itself

[copper fulcrum]

I don't think the AC-42 exists

[pearl ridge]

It’s based on a current prototype system from Thales I think

[fervent rose]

yeah, add a few more modern stuff like pmx, QCQ-171

[pearl ridge]

Though it’s not burst fire and I’m pretty sure it’s for 6.8mm

[echo yew]

the AC42 is a tavor mixed with an F90 MBR

[copper fulcrum]

afaik the only gun that doesn't 100% make sense is the RM68 since you can change the barrel

But I guess that doesn't exactly count since it's a fictional version of the RM277

[pearl ridge]

The M5 is supposed to have an integrated suppressor too

Also it’s the most ridiculous gun in the game because it can use 5.56, 6.8, and 9mm pistol rounds on the fly

[fickle wharf]

I only run high power n 6ku on the m5 lol

[pearl ridge]

At least with most guns the high power rounds would just be the same calibre but overcharged

Funny thing, if they actually had the AUG in the game it would be by far the most realistic weapon to change to long and short barrels with

You can just twist and pull it out

Why they decided they needed a quick-change barrel on an assault rifle is beyond me but it’s there

[copper fulcrum]

It's a selling point

[pearl ridge]

The long barrel’s intended for both marksman and SAW roles

Though that latter one would need cumbersome extended mags and all that, but it’s still something that can be set up with just two quick changes

Lovely bit of kit, the AUG.

Should’ve had the F90 model in the game

[wise heath]

I think it’s called MCBS, gun was also in cod ghosts

MSBS

[reef cedar]

ai breakthrough

[fervent rose]

if you want gun unlocks as fast as humanly possible, play bots in breakthrough

[woven knoll]

Anyone looking for someone to play with?

[wise heath]

yeah it’s that 360 era of ai, they need like two seconds to start shooting at you but once they do.. aimbot

[fervent rose]

fun fact the ai difficulty buttons change nothing

[wise heath]

sad

[gentle hinge]

yo do I use defm jammer on draugr

if i don’t have invis

[wise heath]

I usually go for close quarters

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redacted

[vital quail]

Absolutely blows my mind someone will join a 128 match and have literally 0 kills after 5 minutes

I get a squad full of these people every game

[naive ember]

Probably always running into a 110-3 sweat

There's been a surge lately with sweats

[steel kernel]

Is anyone else having problems installing the anti-cheats from EA? mf wont let me play🤭

keeps going on a loop

[sullen violet]

Probably Portal kill farm servers

But in regular game, Redacted like Clef_went away says, probably your best bet tbh

[naive ember]

Redacted is the best map in battlefield history

[harsh estuary]

Me share missile vs jet clip

When?? Some how i can’t upload it here

[river gale]

False, operation metro

[tough wolf]

gamers,
what game modes have Arica Harbor and/or Valparaiso in their map pool?

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Conquest

[tough wolf]

cool thanks

[zealous loom]

[naive ember]

Good thing those trash maps aren't on BT

128p Valparaiso was awful as well

[tough wolf]

bad opinions!

128 is mega dooodoo

however, I agree that they're bad on BT

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With great power comes great responsibility

[frozen loom]

"When you take on the responsibility, great power will come." - Madam Webb

[severe hill]

With great responsibilities comes great power.

[pearl ridge]

Okay I'm even more dissappointed in 2042's third person takedowns now

Like I've always disliked them conceptually but the big sticking point for me is that they always play out the same way no matter which way the enemy is positioned

So you politely help them to their feet before throwing them to the ground again if they're prone

Well it turns out that bloody COD of all things does this better

Which is actually surprising to me

There are actually separate animations for prone targets

But the BF1-V style is always going to be superior

[reef cedar]

is the high power ammo worse than the normal ap ammo in the .50?

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That cdc guy who plays the RAM in Breakthrough makes me want to kms