battlefield-2042

[tepid agate]

Does this game still have live service ?

[karmic egret]

Live service ended

[tepid agate]

When?

[karmic egret]

Either they are confident or they are trying to build hype

[spare quest]

Months ago

[tepid agate]

Re downloading it for the first time in over a year so I haven't been following

[cold stirrup]

so that might explain the weird ass camera glitch i’ve been dealing with

it either shows me what is under the map or from a camera angle based on passenger view when i switch back to a non passenger seat

[pearl ridge]

Does it happen in single player bots?

Because that's when it happened to me

[lilac dust]

Not entirely. We still have a halloween event coming up and some other updates. But after that it's full speed ahead on Battlefield 7

[vital quail]

Boris ✅️
Roof camping ✅️
Sniper ✅️
The trifecta of straight ass is the squad leader of course

[royal trail]

has the bonus exp you gain from completing a squad leaders order been removed from the game? played some games and i never got any

[naive ember]

2042 = Best Battlefield

[next fern]

You know, repeating the same lie over and over again doesn't make it any more true.

If 2042 was the Best Battlefield, DICE wouldn't be taking such a massive course correction with the next Battlefield, as evidenced by the recent Vince Zampella interview, and the details revealed from the investors call.

Translation: You're wrong.

[pine roost]

Dasher just does this

Don’t mind him

[naive ember]

Too late, this guy is worked up now

[next fern]

I know. It's just him living up to his name (being toxic AF)

[naive ember]

This really is the best battlefield

[pine roost]

This is what no new battlefield does to someone

[vital quail]

Squads broken rn with regards to orders

[lone void]

2042 is the battlefield of the last decade

[mental delta]

It's crazy everyone says the same shit on Twitter about BF6

Like they're just resuming what has been said by Vince Zampella

It's fucking clone wars out there

[mental delta]

Idk how you humanely and logically think BF2042 is the best BF out there

[next fern]

I dont think so. Dasher does.

[mental delta]

Making that sentence was even painful

[next fern]

Certainly lives up to his name.

[mental delta]

BF6 concept art with a burning city near sea represents Gibraltar apparently

It's fun because some dude made a concept art about this location 1 or 2 years ago I think

[naive ember]

Have more hours now on 2042 than my 600+ with BF3 and at that time was widely known as the best BF. Most of the hate towards this game comes from zoomers who have 0 experience with fps from the 90s, 2000s, and early 10s

This is the best fps ever made and this is coming from someone who's been fp shooting since the 90s

[rose fiber]

Ok

[fervent rose]

what gig economy does to a mf

[rose fiber]

The only reason I spent 380h on this title was to complete dumbass battlepasses cuz I hate limited time unlocks. I want that time back

[naive ember]

Stay on topic bud

[mental delta]

Yeah sure the hate towards this game comes from "zoomers" bro, it absolutely doesn't come from the fact game got a small quantity of content at launch with 22 guns in main mode and 7 unfinished maps, the hate isn't due to the fact game didn't have voice chat, scoreboard and map rotation at launch either, or that it was bugged af with hovercrafts sliding on walls

[fervent rose]

i am on topic it was a joke about you being warped

[naive ember]

380 hours, there you go it's the best game

[rose fiber]

380 miserable hours

[mental delta]

"I'm older than you so I know everything, did everything and my opinion is more important than yours"

[rose fiber]

I was basically forcing myself to play to not miss unlocks in case game got good

[naive ember]

You enjoyed every second

[rose fiber]

I have more hours in BF4 without forcing myself to play it

[mental delta]

Me too because I had bought that shit 100€ to get the 4 battlepasses

[naive ember]

Totally worth it

[mental delta]

I got 600 hours on it and not only I consider it to be one of the worst BF games ever made but I also consider it to be some extremely bad FPS game

[rose fiber]

BF4 is 10+ years old and you can still unlock everything there is to unlock. In 2042 you can't go back to unlock seasonal content

[next fern]

Anyone can make up stats on the Internet. While you might've had 600+ hours in BF3, it doesn't require many brain cells to sit on the edge of the map at idle, round after round after round, and accumulate hundreds of hours. Doesn't mean the game is any good. Just means you're a d**k who contributes nothing to the success of your team.

2042 is not the best Battlefield game, and it's certainly not the best FPS game. Even DICE themselves admits that 2042 fell far short of the mark, which is why people like Vince Zampella is now doing damage control, saying the next game needs to "win back the trust from their players". Actual players, not the ones with thier heads shoved so far up their rectum, they can't see daylight.

[naive ember]

[fervent rose]

😴

[rose fiber]

And you're a troll that noone takes seriously

[fervent rose]

boring troll is boring

[next fern]

Who said anything about hating the game? People are disappointed in some of their decisions for the game, certainly. Doesn't mean they hate it.

[mental delta]

We play it because even though it sucks it's one of the only decent recent FPS games out there rn, you play it because no matter how shit it is you'll be playing all the shit you get fed without complaining

You're literally the type of dude to complain about COD being the same on Twitter every year but you buy it nonetheless every year

[next fern]

Dude probably can't even say 1 thing about 2042 that makes it the "Best FPS game ever!!!" -- just regurgitating the same asinine "opinion". If it were the best, it would be top of the player charts everywhere (it isn't)

[fervent rose]

i cant even put together a list of 3 things 2042 added that i want them to keep for next game

lots of people say they like plus system but i think thats a negative overall

[near silo]

Is there a large group that would want to play against the ECO crew Saturday?

[next fern]

The + menu thing was kinda nice I suppose. But it also removed the list of weapon selections, since you could easily just re-mod the gun on the fly for most situations (without respawn)

[fervent rose]

if it was just changing scopes it'd be less poorly designed

the ammo types and barrels were very poorly balanced

[rose fiber]

The only thing I can think off is more weapon choices for secondary gunner on vehicles

Tho I think some secondary seats on tanks should be merged together

[chilly jacinth]

Daily game is shit convo

[fervent rose]

it's not that it's full on shit

[chilly jacinth]

See

And he has to keep going with it

Lmao

[fervent rose]

you could have said nothing and then i wouldnt reply

wild how conversation works!!!!

[next fern]

Think of it this way... If it were a great game (as some people might claim), you wouldn't have a daily game is shit convo 😛

[chilly jacinth]

[naive ember]

Great maps like Redacted where we have best matches full of competitive players from most platforms

[next fern]

Redacted is great? GTFO! Doesn't even rank in the Top 10 overall of all Battlefield maps.

[rose fiber]

Redacted has it's issues, vertical ziplines should be replaced with stairs or other diagonal pathways cuz of campers

[naive ember]

Redacted is the best map in the game even BT Redacted is great

[rose fiber]

lol

[fervent rose]

ziplines and elevators are awful unless they're kinda off out of the ways

if its near core areas, the camping is obnoxious

[naive ember]

Dark creations was the best thing to happen in video gaming history

[next fern]

😄

[rose fiber]

I think elevators will have camping issues no matter where they are on map. Like Kaledioscope that has them on edge of the map

[mental delta]

At this point it just gotta be bait...

Dude how can you claim a seasonal drop of content with 1 decent map and 3 guns was the best thing which happened in video game history

[fervent rose]

ive used elevators as my go to strategy to win breakthrough on that last point. i go in from above and then control the bottom back hallway. it pretty much always works and theres rarely somebody watching the elevators

[mental delta]

That's just mental illness

[vital quail]

This is one of the yap sessions of all time. Bravo to all involved

[naive ember]

1 map is all it takes bud

[fervent rose]

it just depends on the map design and placement

[mental delta]

1 map isn't even enough for a season lol WTF ?

Minimum should be 2

3 would be perfection

But 2 is ok

[naive ember]

No need to be greedy

1 is enough

[mental delta]

1 map no matter how good it is just isn't enough

[rose fiber]

He's right though. 1 map per season was sole advertisement for people wanting premium back

[mental delta]

Yeah sure having minimal expectations for a game you paid more than 80€ is being greedy

Ok dude

[rose fiber]

BF4 released 20 premium maps in the time BF2042 released 3 lol

[fervent rose]

premium would never fly, asking a full price is already kind of a relic

[mental delta]

Really I think it's cool that content is free now but 1 map just isn't it

2 would be the bare minimum

[naive ember]

Go through the whole map rotation then when you see redacted on the screen you're like oh shit it's about to go down time to get ready for some serious action

[rose fiber]

Yeah

[fervent rose]

delta force which is genuinely good is going to be free

premium isnt gonna work

[rose fiber]

I think premium could work with 2 free, 2 paid. That was the only problem with BF4 standard edition that it didn't get more free maps

[mental delta]

I agree a system with half the content free and the other half being purchasable could be a decent idea

But it should be made like maps are all free but guns aren't

So it doesn't split the playerbase

I wouldn't mind having to pay for guns

While not having maps available for everyone makes the playerbase split

[next fern]

As long as the paid guns, aren't OP compared to the free guns. Then you end up in P2W territory.

[fervent rose]

tbh the low amount of dlc content wouldnt have been as painful if the base maps werent so fucking bad

post rework they all still mostly suck

[mental delta]

Yeah that's the thing lol, it should be some 10 guns package which contains balanced guns otherwise it would just be a pay-to-win thing

Next game is going to keep it on with the battlepass system and free content nonetheless

[mental delta]

I kinda agree the reworks made maps playable and decently ok but it didn't make those fun

[fervent rose]

none of the reworks are on the same quality as Spearhead or Redacted

if the launch maps were that good we would have been much happier

[rose fiber]

I think BF title needs at least 10 maps at launch and reach at least 20 maps within year or year and a half. And if maps take long to make then the post launch maps should be at least half made before launching the game

[next fern]

I don't mind the "live service" model. If they can pull it off. Which DICE thus far, has not been able to. Needs to be regular updates and new content. A new event, on a pre-existing map, is not new content. A new skin for a weapon you already have, is not new content.

[mental delta]

Orbital is the best of launch maps now imo and others are just either decently playable or still bad lol

[fervent rose]

it's still miserable in breakthrough

its half decent in conq though now

[mental delta]

It makes me so pissed off how people got comfortable with calling free skins and 3 weeks long events "new content"

Like no it's not

It's just temporary stuff

[next fern]

One thing I'd like for next Battlefield, is to replace Conquest as the default game mode, with Control. Basically the same mode, except you can choose yourself, when to call in new vehicles (based on personal performance). Since Zampella mentioned 1942 in his interview, I'd love to see the return of vehicles spawning when you capture points.

[fervent rose]

my favorite is the people that take the lore blurbs they write to sell those skins seriously

[rose fiber]

Unfortunately after AAA companies releasing crap after crap it was normalised to be ok with it

[fervent rose]

omg such good storytelling let me buy all skins

its such schlock

[next fern]

Exactly. Live Service might involve running new events constantly, but... it's not really content. New content, is actual playable things: maps, guns, vehicles.

[mental delta]

Vehicles spawning when you capture points was here in BF4 I think

[mental delta]

Lol BF2042 doesn't have a campaign but it suddenly got lore for some skins and shit

[fervent rose]

🙄 you clearly just didnt understand the Moravian Guard, it's too complex for you

[mental delta]

Ho the Moravian crap...

I can't just keep up with this game

[rose fiber]

Best part about lore? Military somehow thought it's good to equip no pats with 5th gen fighters and stealth helicopters instead of actual military using it

[fervent rose]

is it chatgpt, is it a person writing the worst thing they can think of on purpose, who knows!

[mental delta]

"But bro you don't understand it's a proxy war the enemy has to ingore who you're fighting for"

Meanwhile there's USMC written on the side of Condor and both teams are marked as the country they're fighting for

[rose fiber]

I do hope next BF is different story universe than 2042 cuz I feel like 2042 killed story of BF3 and 4 by being in same universe

Lmao

[fervent rose]

yep its time for a clean slate

or it's Bad Company 3

either way works

[mental delta]

Me too BF2042 "lore" was just bad af

[rose fiber]

If it's BC 3 they better rehired some people who worked on story of previous BC titles

[fervent rose]

ya i am leaning more on reboot

[next fern]

Been a while since I played BF4, but it's possible. I still miss having that feature, since you felt a bit of a "reward" for capturing the point. Now, anyone can spawn a new vehicle anywhere (including on rooftops, which is ridiculous AF). So I'd prefer they either remove that system from 2042 in the next game, or in the very least tweak it so that vehicles can't be spawned at stupid places. A hovercraft or a chopper on a rooftop, fine. Not an AA or MBT though.

[fervent rose]

especially cause vince didnt stress bad company when talking about the best bf's

@next fern it was in bfv too in the pacific maps

[next fern]

That I remember. I never said the "vehicle spawn at capture" feature was limited to 1942. Just that I missed having it 😛

[fervent rose]

yeah, it's a good classic feature

can lead to snowballing though. iwo jima conquest was like that

[mental delta]

I recall Rogue Transmission having attack helicopter to offer you if you captured some point idk where

[next fern]

I only mentioned 1942, since Vince mentioned it in the interview. I'd like to think, he may have been hinting at bringing back sort-of the "best of" from 1942, 3 and 4. The concept art hinted at naval warfare making a return for example (which debuted in 1942)

[mental delta]

I agree

The vehicles call-in system is just bad

[rose fiber]

I want to go back to vehicles being prespawned but make it so that enemies can't steal jets from your base lol

[mental delta]

Actual call-ins like in BFV would be cool

[fervent rose]

everybody hates vehicle drops

air dropping should only be ATVs

[next fern]

You mean, where squads who performed well, could have their squad leaders call in certain reinforcements, like... an airstrike?

Absolutely, this should be brought back. Reward players for working as a team.

[fervent rose]

2042 never having call in atvs pisses me off

[pine roost]

Can appreciate being able to drop small transports anywhere, but not any kind of assault vehicles

[mental delta]

Yes exactly like let us call smoke barrage or a dreadnought in reinforcement

Mix BF1 and BFV systems

[tawny carbon]

Tbh I enjoy vehicle call ins

[next fern]

This I think would be the best...

1. Call in small transports (max 2 people), use the Control system by having the spawn-in time based off of your personal performance (not tied to a team-wide pool of when vehicles might be available)
2. Larger vehicles that spawn at your HQ, and at Capture.
3. Vehicles that you personally spawn in, should be limited to you as the driver

[pine roost]

Mostly agree. I just don’t like the control points system. But locking the driver to the person who called in said vehicle for a short duration sounds fine

[fervent rose]

they could just give "admin" controls to whoever spawns in the tank, like being able to select exactly what position you want no matter what

[next fern]

The dreadnoughts (especially the blimp) from BF1, added a nice layer of changing things up during a match. A crashed blimp, could end up anywhere, and effect the map pathing (closing some paths, opening new ones). Bring back things like that, and BF4's Levolution events. Hell, I don't mind if they bring back 2042's tornadoes, as long as they bring in NEW random events as well.

[fervent rose]

treat em like ai

[rose fiber]

Anyone played BF3 End game dlc? Where transport plane would airdrop tanks? That could work instead of just spawning vehicle in air out of nowhere

[fervent rose]

stuff like that is always welcome but we know 2042 was stretched to the limits haha

[tawny carbon]

That will add flavor to it but it’s a lot of work since multiple vehicles drops in a short period of time. Not all at once

[next fern]

Doesn't have to be the Control system, but transports that are personally called in, should not be limited to "Oh these guys already called in their transports, so I can't...". Transports should be mostly readily available when you need it. Driver + Passenger, max. Passenger can use their own guns to defend them, while driving.

[fervent rose]

yeah the system which is supposed to be free form is very limited

im guessing due to memory constraints

[next fern]

One gimmick I rather liked from the original Battlefield Vietnam, was having transport choppers (the chinook) able to airlift tanks from one place to another. Worked both offensively (lifting an enemy tank to somewhere random), and defensively helping your teammate 😛

[rose fiber]

Never played it but I've seen it, I do want that feature

[fervent rose]

the avg player would fly you into out of bounds these days

cant have shit

[next fern]

True. But they still do that if you're sitting in a tank, temporarily in the 2nd seat, and then some random jumps in the driver seat, and drives the vehicle off and gets both blown up.

[rose fiber]

Halo players would love that

[fervent rose]

they definitely need a driver priority system, its so annoying not being able to repair your vehicle due to dumbass teammates stealing it

i purposefully dont equip the mortar on 2042's tank just so they dont stay in my vehicle

get out and stay out

[mental delta]

Yeah BF2042 "events" were just tornadoes and only that lol it was a pure scam they advertised as game changing events, I hope next game got big ass boat dreadnoughts as well as Levolution events as you said

Even if it's just a building or a little barrage collapsing here and there I think it's way better than whatever we got with BF2042

[next fern]

Concept Art suggests possible wildfires, which I hope they do include. But not ONLY that. Don't want a repeat of 2042's "only tornadoes".

[tawny carbon]

Weather system kinda did change up the game abit. But sometimes it’s frequent and other times it’s rare that it happens

[fervent rose]

the tornado was a massive waste of man hours and money

[mental delta]

Fire tornado ?

[rose fiber]

Problem with loveolutions and tornadoes is that it gets boring after 1st couple of times. Like so many people hate when tower collapses in Siege of Shanghai now. I think regular destruction is just fine

[tawny carbon]

It’s not a waste. They can do better with the weather tech for sure

[mental delta]

It was rarely game changing imo but it was a fun weather event, it just shouldn't have been the only one in the game

[next fern]

I forget the name of the map, but I remember in BF4 there was a map with a lot of ocean. During a storm, you had a friggin battleship come crashing into the landmass! Bring that sort of events.

[fervent rose]

the only time i ever considered it "game changing" was when i got flung into out of bounds

[mental delta]

Paracel Storm

[tawny carbon]

That’s why I want both levo and weather

[mental delta]

This map had some destroyed aircraft carrier as a point to capture as well

[next fern]

Thank you! First time I experienced that event, scared the crap out of me 😄

[tawny carbon]

That was a good map for levo

[mental delta]

Me too, but if we're talking about weather I'd prefer intense rain like on BF4 map Flooded Zone causing... well... floodings, over BF2042 tornadoes

[rose fiber]

Imo Flood Zone had good levolution by rising water level

[mental delta]

Np lol I really like this map a lot as well

[tawny carbon]

Why not both

[next fern]

Here's one feature I'd LOVE to see, which no Battlefield game has previously had: A Day/Night cycle! Maps that either take place at night, or can become night (due to day/night cycle), making gadgets like Nightvision, Thermal Scopes, Flashlights etc, all the more useful (for that particular scenario). Even if you only have 10 maps, it could play very different depending on Day or Night.

[tawny carbon]

I hated night on BF4

[next fern]

Oh yes...! Events which change the overall feel of the map, should be a definite thing. The flooding for example.

[fervent rose]

true night maps are more fun in theory than in practice

[next fern]

Night maps could also be limited to a certain type of game mode.

[fervent rose]

but if its like nivelle nights im all for it

[rose fiber]

Night maps are great but you'd have to force flashlight on everyone cuz if flaslight is optional, noone's gonna use it to give away his position and everyone will use thermal

[mental delta]

I mean I'm ok with both as long as it's not of those being the only major event on most maps lol

[tawny carbon]

Tbh. BF3 did night maps well

[mental delta]

Yeah I think flooding is like the simplest one but you can also level up a map with destruction or stuff like this

[tawny carbon]

I want both to happen. Idk how new gen console can handle it

[fervent rose]

it just turns your interesting map into whatever the nightvision color is, too

[mental delta]

Night maps are underrated as well yes

[next fern]

Everyone's main weapon would be auto-equipped with a flashlight, that can be toggled on/off, but if it's off makes it damn near impossible to see anyone. That I'd like 😄

[mental delta]

There's so much to do with it

[mental delta]

I hope it handles bridges destruction at least

I mean BF2042 runs pretty well on consoles so idk

[tawny carbon]

Can it handle BF6 tho last gen consoles need to be cut from the project frfr

It better be a new gen only

[fervent rose]

if ps4 is supported for next title

[next fern]

Besides blowing up buildings, I'd love to see them finally make use of TERRAIN destruction as well. Need a foxhole for your soldier? Have a friendly tank driver, blast a few holes in the ground 😛

[rose fiber]

Here's thing, let's say both players on opposing sides have flaslight on, then one realizes he doesn't need flashlight cuz he sees the enemies using flaslight so he turns it off, then the other guy sees what enemy is doing so he also turns flashlight off, then noone turns on flaslight to not get spotted

[tawny carbon]

Last gen consoles restricts devs on their projects

[fervent rose]

bf1 had that, it was cool

[next fern]

Next Battlefield is almost certainly gonna be PS5/Xbox Series and above. PS4/Xbox One is far too ancient these days.

[tawny carbon]

Unless they separate the servers like they did for 2042

[chilly jacinth]

They still limit the scope of the game

if they do that

[mental delta]

I don't think it's gonna come out on PS4 and XBOX One lol

[rose fiber]

Yea Imo last gen console will be left behind

[next fern]

Taken a step further... On Orbital, one of the favorite places to fight, is in the tunnels. If you expanded on terrain destruction, you could have tanks making their own tunnels 😄

[fervent rose]

I hope so too but there's still an incredible amount of people on ps4/xbox one

[tawny carbon]

You know how many people is still on PS4. People is already complaining that. If last gen console won’t get the game. Like they are rn with gta6

[fervent rose]

publishers still want that money

[naive ember]

Ps4 is fine, they can leave xbox behind

[mental delta]

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-3d-couch-explosion-gif-25176966

"Hey lads is BF6 going to come out on PS4 and XBOX One please"

[mental delta]

I know it's still a really important part of the sales if not the most important

[next fern]

Tough cookies! If you're still on PS4 or Xbox One, and want to play a modern game... get a newer console! Just like PC players need to constantly upgrade to newer hardware, to handle the newer games.

[naive ember]

They should still support old gen

Especially ps4

[next fern]

Yes, let's have Battlefield run on a NES! Absolutely 😄

[naive ember]

[mental delta]

Saying "especially PS4" is nonsense because if they support one they'll support both

[rose fiber]

I'm on GTX1060 since 2017 and will stay on it until I can't play the game I want on at least medium graphics and 60 fps

[next fern]

Mr Toxic is a PS console gamer. Of course, PS is his focus (doesn't make him less toxic)

[swift edge]

my 2042 keeps crashing, something with my AMD GPU video driver but I checked and is latest... anyone having same issues?

[rose fiber]

Unfortunately I'm Nvidia sucker

[next fern]

I recently upgraded, but I ran 1060 successfully for a long time as well. Sooner or later though, a hardware upgrade is needed. And if PC players have to upgrade their systems to play the newest things, console gamers should be forced to as well imho.

[mental delta]

I'm a PS player too but I avoid shitting on people playing XBOX lol

[chilly jacinth]

He's just a troll

wouldn't take anything he says seriously

[mental delta]

Idk if he is tbh

[next fern]

I hope the next Battlefield skips out on PS4/XBox One support, but if they're building it on the same "rebuilt" Frostbite engine, they'll probably keep supporting and knee capping themselves, because of older hardware.

[mental delta]

He just looks to be extremely annoying

[mental delta]

I guess if they keep supporting those they'll probably make 2 different games like COD with BO3 in 2015 which was the most stupid decision ever lol

[next fern]

PS4/Xbox One came out 11 years ago...! Ancient by modern standards. (soon 12 years)

[swift edge]

does anyone know why I cannot share my game screen in the VC?

[rose fiber]

Tbf, it's not just console hardware, pc hardware is also keeping them back since most players don't have RTX gpus. Like I'm sure they have the power to create BF that requires RTX 3000 series at least. Depends on how many players they want to cover

[fervent rose]

yeah i think we would like to see the game do stuff a ps4 cannot do

that generation has held games back

[next fern]

Graphically, a 1060 or 1660 would still make the game look nice and pretty. You just wouldn't have raytracing. RTX cards wasn't really a thing with BF1 or BFV, yet both games look far superior to 2042 graphically.

[lilac dust]

I find it hilarious people are saying "naval combat confirmed" because the first concept art shows boats attacking each other...... May I remind you that 2042 had the most INSANE amount of boat and water teasing any video game on planet earth has ever had and It never got naval combat

[fervent rose]

unless some really incredible tech comes out to change it, rt will be a waste of fps in multiplayer games for years to come

[mental delta]

Naval warfare has 99% chances of coming back as everyone complained about BF2042 not having it but yes it won't be because you can see boats in the concept art lol

[next fern]

I wouldn't say it's confirmed, but Vince Zampella did hint at going a "back to basics" route for the next Battlefield, and mentioned both BF3/BF4 and 1942, all of which had a certain level of naval combat. And then there's the concept art, which further hints at its inclusion.

[rose fiber]

We even expected flooded London from their marketing before launch

[lilac dust]

Oh yeah I'm 100% sure it's coming, but I know from 2042 to never take concept art as meaning literally anything for the actual game lol

[fervent rose]

i hope it doesnt, but i wouldnt mind a few maps starting on carriers like bf3 did

[mental delta]

Ho yes definitely lol I also recall how serious and dirty specialists looked in concept arts to just look like childish af when game released

[lilac dust]

I'm at least glad he said natural disasters. Hopefully we'll see all the cancelled natural disasters that this game was initally planned to have like earthquakes, tsunamis e.c.t

[mental delta]

You don't want naval warfare ? You gotta be kidding me

[fervent rose]

its for a simple reason, you cant infantry on water

[lilac dust]

Infantry deez nuts

[fervent rose]

attack boats in bf4 are really obnoxious in the design

[rose fiber]

BF 4 naval maps were great even for infantry

[next fern]

"Don't be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes."

I've never considered Battlefield to be a serious game series (it's always leaned more towards arcade), but shit like that I hated 😄

[rose fiber]

Or BF1 naval maps

BF1 had attack boats and a ship + dreadnought

[mental delta]

I mean it used to be more serious even though it was indeed not a completely serious game franchise but BF2042 killed it all tbh

[lilac dust]

Water never gets enough love in video games. BF4 had amazing naval combat with water physics on par with GTA 5's

[next fern]

Sure you can. If you allow players to swim in the water, and fight each other using their handguns/knives while in the water 😄

[rose fiber]

I do hope we get 4 player warships like they did in BF1 naval dlc

[mental delta]

I hope next game features a naval carrier map where you can fight over it

[lilac dust]

CARRIER ASSAULT 🙏

Best gamemode

[mental delta]

What's your guess about number of maps when BF6 releases ?

[next fern]

I do not disagree. 2042's "lore" (charitable) seemed to imply we'd be fighting in mostly destroyed warzones, where everything is super serious. Only to have the game released with all maps in pretty much pristine quality, and idiot specialists making quips like the above.

[mental delta]

I'd say 10 or 12

[lilac dust]

10

10 because it's going back to 64p

[mental delta]

It was good mode not many liked apparently

[lilac dust]

7 made sense for 2042 because they were massive

[rose fiber]

Maybe controversial opinion but I found CA better than conquest since CA is basically conquest with different endgame objective

[fervent rose]

i think they should take a break since 2042 had two big boat maps, but maybe eventually ya

[lilac dust]

BF4 had 10 at launch. I expect 10 for new game

[next fern]

Loved Carrier Assault (and it's original, Titan Mode from 2142). This I'd love to see brought back. Could even have it run in Breakthrough mode, moving from one area of the ship to the next.

[lilac dust]

Probably just the people who hate naval combat in general tho

[fervent rose]

realistically i expect 8

[mental delta]

Lol that was the funniest shit "so yeah basically whole countries are collapsing and conflicts take place everywhere but you'll be fighting over the cleanest docks you've ever seen near Singapore"

[fervent rose]

10-12 would be them seriously attempting to get some goodwill back

[mental delta]

BF2042 had 2 big boat maps on land though lol

[mental delta]

I guess but it's a bit sad because game combined Domination and Rush perfectly imo

[fervent rose]

i mean sure but you still fight in and on top of them

dont get me wrong i love Stranded

[next fern]

Massive empty maps...! Then yes. I don't mind larger maps, or even larger player numbers, but the maps have to actually be designed for that purpose. 2042's launch maps, had most of the structures/design located at the centers of the map, with everything outside the center being largely devoid of anything (including cover)

[rose fiber]

I think the 2 ships stuck on land in BF2042 had vertical combat done wrong. Since flag was at the bottom, you couldn't watch all around you horizontally and all around you vertically at same time

It was basically luck play

[fervent rose]

I enjoyed breakthrough meatgrinder stranded a lot

[lilac dust]

I think they started improving with seasons 1-4, but the community already made up their mind and it was too late for them to continue improving on layouts for 128 which makes me sad. We'll probably never see a higher playercount ever again

[next fern]

That's what happens. First impressions are always the most important.

I wouldn't say higher player numbers is impossible in the future, they just have to make it work within the designs of the maps. Support the # of players, different playstyles, cover tactics etc.

[rose fiber]

If they are gonna make BR or extraction mode in next BF, they could at least use that large map for big ass conquest with bunch of players like Planetside lol

[next fern]

I don't think it has to be 128 players though. 50 vs 50 would be more than enough for example.

[mental delta]

Except Orbital which had all points of interests on the extremities but nothing at the center

Same for Breakaway

[next fern]

True. They did the same mistake, only in reverse 😄

[mental delta]

Well guess what...

[lilac dust]

Rework fixed that IMO

[fervent rose]

what is the purpose and point of 128 other than big number if you have to make massive maps to spread people out

they can make far better maps faster in 64

[mental delta]

No seriously we don't know shit about the presence of BR mode or not but apparently there might be one with a special mode called Gauntlet which features at least 2 teams 👀

[rose fiber]

As much as Breakaway rework was good, they shouldn't have cut tower out of the map

[next fern]

Reworked maps fixed a lot of things, but the overall damage was done.

Most laughable, is the one with the Stadium which they cut out from the map, only to bring it back later as a "new" map.

[mental delta]

Lol yes that's crazy how they couldn't get anything right

[mental delta]

Yeah Orbital and Breakaway are the best base game maps after being reworked

[lilac dust]

Well 1. it's cool as fuck.... 2. It feels more like a real battle..... 3. I mean why not just have 12 v 12 as the limit, if you don't see a reason for 128, then why do you see a reason for 64?

[rose fiber]

I would like to see Planetside like mode in BF but it would need a lot of active players to support it

[mental delta]

That's the dumbest shit because the Stadium could have actually been put on the center of the map which is actually empty

[fervent rose]

so we have arrived at the breaking point where you want spectacle over gameplay

[lilac dust]

Blame PS4 and XB1

[fervent rose]

i want a good game

[mental delta]

I don't think it's what people really want but there's definitely something to do by combining a BR mode with some classic BF gameplay

[next fern]

Agreed. I personally lean more towards smaller numbers (48-64 player servers tends to be the "sweet" spot, of not having too many/too few players around). I'd love to have 10-20 people fighting around a single control point, but I also want to be able to travel from Point A to Point B knowing I actually meet someone along the way. Not like Launch era 2042-Hourglass, where you travel halfways across the map, not seeing a single person (at 128 players)

[fervent rose]

i want GOOD maps

not big dumb ones

[mental delta]

I guess so lol but they could have made a different version for us

[lilac dust]

They already confirmed it was a technical limitation with last gen that made it impossible to just move the stadium around

and sand gemoetry presents a big challenge too

[full burrow]

nothing wrong with BRs as a whole, nothing wrong with trying to make one in battlefield. What will really matter is the execution

[fervent rose]

I think something like 48 player frontlines could be the flagship mode of battlefield, but DICE for whatever reason almost never explores in between 64 or 32

[next fern]

Make the Stadium a central point of interest on a map, with tons of vertical gameplay, corridor fighting, and tank battles at ground level. Supports several playstyles. With control points on the outside of the Stadium, you'd be able to support Air combat as well.

[rose fiber]

I don't mind if they make BR as long as it doesn't reduce main content

[lilac dust]

At least this next game will TRULY be next gen. It should only be releasing on PS5, X S X, XSS and PC

[mental delta]

That would have been cool but it's joeover lol

[full burrow]

a concept that COULD result in 100% but executed to 50% is 50% of maximum potential. A concept that has a maximum for 80% efficiency executed to 100% is 80% of maximum potential

[mental delta]

Now we gotta wait for next game

[full burrow]

so they can do whatever they want really, its all about how it happens and who is capable of what

[pine roost]

Basically the way I see it too. I won’t play the br even if it’s free so as long as the main game doesn’t suffer all’s good

[next fern]

Sad but true. But it's always nice to speculate "what if", or what could've been.

Bottomline is, I want well designed maps, that is designed for the intended player count, and supports most/all playstyles (whether it be ground/air/vehicular). Far more important to me, than if we have 128+ players, on maps that are multiple squarekilometers in size, with nothing in them.

[mental delta]

What's the most important gameplay feature you want to see in next game (not like VOIP or scoreboard but some actual gameplay thing) ?

[full burrow]

having said that, I would like a scoreboard on launch pretty please xD

[fervent rose]

proper physics for vehicles would be lovely

[next fern]

Bring back wide-scale massive destruction events. Something to shake up the status quo on any given map.

[mental delta]

I'd have liked them to stick to a higher playercount like 80 players but we're going back to 64 players which is really good as well

[mental delta]

Our expectations as a community are so fucking low tbh

[full burrow]

I agree with your sentiment but I am actually scared to ask for nice things because its just more for them to fuck up

[next fern]

This absolutely!

I drive a 2 ton tank, and can run over a tree. But if I hit a small pebble in the road, my tank bounces around like paper 😄

[mental delta]

Yeah I agree BF4 and BF1 left evleryone amazed by game-changing events and it shouldn't have been gone

[fervent rose]

it'd also help with dealing with helicopters, if they behaved like real helicopters you could track them better

[mental delta]

Criterion might be exclusively working on vehicles apparently to make the gameplay the more detailed possible

[full burrow]

again, vehicle physics are not needed, Basic not bouncing off rocks like a balloon yes, anything more is just wasted effort for minimal result

like some physics yeah, but dont go asking for it to be really really good cos they will spend all the time and effort and neglect something else

[next fern]

Also, I love flying the Nightbird (or whever its called in 2042), but that one is FAR too maneuvrable. Probably been toned down a bit now, but at launch it didn't really feel like the "weight" of the vehicle when flying it.

[fervent rose]

all of the old good battlefield games had extensive, fantastic physics

skimping on physics is always the wrong decision in bf games

[next fern]

Ironically, some of the best helicopter physics to me, wasn't from any of the official games. It was a 1942 era mod called Desert Combat. Those devs ended up assisting in the development of BF2.

[full burrow]

if your talkiing about old games, i doubt it was extensive and fantastic. It was probably minimal to do the job done and it worked

asking for extensive fantastic with modern day posibilities is begging for them to bite of more than they can chew

[fervent rose]

you can go play the old games right now

they are fantastic physics

[chilly jacinth]

Such fantastic physics such as launching to orbit when touching water

[full burrow]

fantastic doesnt mean extenstive

[chilly jacinth]

[full burrow]

fantastic means it gets the job done well

you dont need to go super complicated for that

[next fern]

Let's not delve into hyperbole. Good physics yes. Fantastic...? Mmm, not so much.

[full burrow]

Im not saying they arnt good physics in old games, im saying they are not super advanced or anything

I dont imagine they did anything super special back in the day, more that they didnt bother to consider basics now

[fervent rose]

see, this is you admitting you're ignorant

its ok

[full burrow]

ok

[fervent rose]

👍

[full burrow]

educate me north american

[naive ember]

You wish your server is great like NA

[fervent rose]

educate yourself

[full burrow]

cant im ignorant

I need help

[fervent rose]

tough

very tough situation

[near silo]

I see BF is going back the the old ways on the next BF. Uhhhhhh let me just say, that was like 10 plus years ago. Shits changed. I want boujee uniforms and insane gun paints with the fast pace combat. 😦

[naive ember]

Play cod

[near silo]

COD is trash

[naive ember]

It has what you want

[near silo]

I have 2800 hours in BF

[naive ember]

This one?

[near silo]

Yep

[naive ember]

Nice

[full burrow]

and youve paid for skins and such?

[near silo]

Only if it’s a Blasco Skin. That is all

All other specialists are dog shit

[full burrow]

well I cant be too mad but you are still part of the reason we have a shit game and they can get away with it

[near silo]

Why because I support this game? It’s a good game. Everybody has their own opinions. All I do is play it.

Not like I’ve invested millions into it.

[full burrow]

no because YOU have shown them that they can continue to make money by essensially doing nothing

[near silo]

I’ve also had countless hours of entertainment with my all my friends playing.

[full burrow]

yes from a product you paid for

[near silo]

Mmhmm, could be monthly like many other games

[full burrow]

and instead of improving the product further in exchange for money, they called it live service and made more money from skins

[fervent rose]

you're doing nothing wrong, you're good

not everything is an axe to grind..

[near silo]

If they mad Liz a skin that showed some skin, I’d prolly dump $20 in that too

[still vault]

There is nothing wrong with disliking how skins are handled in games these days. But, perhaps instead of going after individual people, you could, you know, just explain the thing you don't like while still being respectful 🙂

[full burrow]

I dont think I discrespected them in any way, I emphasised the you to show that each invidual and action no matter how big or small still contibutes to the problem. Reffering directly to someone to put things into a perspective is not my definition of not being respectful

[near silo]

I don’t see anything wrong with the game, my good friend wonder is at 4000 hours level 999 along with money other members l still playing everyday to support the game. I don’t know about all of you but out of all the games I’ve bought, I’ve always came back you 2042. It’s SIMPLE

[near silo]

I wasn’t offended AT ALL, it’s the internet

[full burrow]

Very good to hear 🙂

[near silo]

3/4 of the server here don’t even play the game

🤗

[fervent rose]

thats true you can tell they dont know details

[still vault]

Most probably play some Battlefield game, or did

[full burrow]

ngl, I dont have 2042 installed rn, I just come in to talk every now and then

obviously I have/do at times

during those times im quite active here, otherwise I just read/talk every now and then

[near silo]

Well, battlefield 5 and 1 were garbage in my own opinion though I’m not at all a fan of old war genre

[full burrow]

I thought 1 was amazing, although I have a friend like you who couldnt even refer to it as a battlefield game, cos it wasnt another bf3/4

I will say I didnt like 5 however that based on VERY limited data, I couldnt play it at the time and only tried it a little after

[near silo]

I went back to bf4 to try it out and WOW. Slow as fuck!!

[full burrow]

but it felt like a step down for me when I did try it

[fervent rose]

yeah it takes an hour for your hp to regen

[patent pivot]

??

[full burrow]

skill issue

[near silo]

lol right!!

[fervent rose]

the movement is still absurdly fast in bf4 but the other systems are slow as hell

[full burrow]

at least the medic wasnt the complete revive spamfest of bf3

[near silo]

The only other bf I put real time in was Battlefield 2: Modern Combat. The battlefield 4

[full burrow]

while yet that is probably the best memory for nostalgia whores of bf3, and it is hella fun, but still

[fervent rose]

every bf is a revive spamfest 🤷‍♂️

[spare quest]

nah

[full burrow]

yh but in bf3 I think it was instant and with 0 restrictions

[spare quest]

Just on some maps

[near silo]

This game is for old people

🙂

[full burrow]

so like 2 medics sat on top of each other just 1 tap revive non stop the milisecond one is dead

not even a charge/delay

or nowear near the one we are used too

[fervent rose]

yeah, bf3 is not without its flaws.

the grenade spam would not be accepted

[near silo]

Unfortunately this discord isn’t owned by EA Staff anymore and will go to ban hammer discord UwU mod try hards eventually

[full burrow]

??

[fervent rose]

i'd take it as a badge of honor if i got banned for talking badly about 2042

[near silo]

lol right

[full burrow]

for 7.5 developers they did really well with 2042 tbf

[near silo]

Well also. We have Gen Z making games now so this might be the only good bf now

Liz in a bikini Skin? I’ll wait

[chilly lichen]

be ready for the next battlefield to have pronouns 🤦‍♂️

[near silo]

So true

[full burrow]

maybe we could use rubber bullets instead, and instead of killing people we are "temporarilly subduing them"

[near silo]

I’ve always had one issue with Battlefield 202 and that’s every time I get out of a vehicle it’s like my gun doesn’t register shots as if I’m shooting blanks. For me to fix that I have to change weapons and then switch back to primary.

[pearl ridge]

I never felt that BF4’s movement was particularly quick, at least not by today’s standards

The game’s problems mostly stem from poor vehicle balance and some really crap maps

[fervent rose]

i meant it as like a total potential thing, most people play bf4 slow but top 1% players go crazy with air strafing in bf4

[lone void]

People who sweat battlefield like that are just silly

BF is not a highly competitive game like that

Your K/D is shit and nobody cares

[pearl ridge]

I despise vehicle mains more.

At least the ones on foot will go down if you shoot them

[lone void]

Some types of people just make games unfun

[chilly lichen]

why are the battlefields devs unable to give rus and usa balanced transport helis bruh

hind stomps the uh60 lmao

[naive ember]

Balancing is overrated

[lone void]

The UH60 is not the counterpart to the Hind tho

The Condor is

Everyone can use the UH60

Unless this is a different BF game

[chilly lichen]

the condor is ass

[lone void]

Condor funi

Hind has been broken since launch, just the way things are

Should have less armour imo but here we are

[chilly lichen]

i dont think the hind is too good i just think the condor is too bad

[lone void]

Apparently the big flying steel box is stronger than the big tanky steel box that needs dual jet propulsion to lift off

Ionno man I don't make the rules

[quiet shell]

I suspect the mi-24 Hind from BC2 Portal will be getting added soon to replace the super hind

[pine roost]

But if there’s nothing to really learn or push gameplay it gets a little old

Just a little something is all we need

If air strafe existed with 2042’s mechanics that might just be too much I’ll admit

But just not bf1 again

[lone void]

I hate sliding

I'd take some strafing over sliding easily

Sliding is stupid.

[pine roost]

How is strafing better than sliding in your books

It’s significantly more potent

[lone void]

I just don't like sliding I think it's silly

[pine roost]

But air strafing is fine?

[lone void]

Sillier than jumping, at least strafing has a skill level of some kind

[pine roost]

Ah okay I see where you’re coming from

Sort of

[fervent rose]

shooting the guy who is air strafing isnt really a learnable skill though, you cant predict it

[lone void]

I might not like sweaty plebs but I can at least appreciate that they've got the skill and experience to get where they are

[pine roost]

Reminds me a bit of slide cancelling in cod in a sense, how that’s just something you spam because you have to. Air strafing has a little more behind it but I can understand interpreting the slide a bit like that. But I just view the slide as the start of a movement chain rather than an isolated move

[fervent rose]

air strafing in bf4 just lead to a ton of movement spam among the top players. and you cant deny that it works but its so annoying to play against

[pine roost]

I honestly enjoy playing against it

A short burst of an aim challenge that keeps me on my toes

After spending hours tracking to the base movement and strafe speeds, coming across someone at the very least using it kind of makes me more aware and engaged

[fervent rose]

I much prefer games without hitbox jank

[pine roost]

The stuff that bf4 does in regards to the disconnect between the visual and physical hitbox is definitely a nono

But simply being able to move in interesting ways, exploits aside, is fun

[lone void]

Battlefield net code could never

[fervent rose]

exactly

[mental delta]

Then don't try to turn BF into some trash as well waht kind of logic is that ?

"Yeah so I want some videogame license to look like another one but the other said license is shit so it'll inevitably turn the franchise I love into some crap as well"

[naive ember]

You're speaking to someone with 2,800 hours in the best ever fps

I bet all the sweats run as soon as they see him

[indigo owl]

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[fickle flax]

How am I getting locked on by stingers when I'm at max height/stalling out

I thought their max lock on range was well below that

[sullen violet]

Are you sure you arent getting locked on by something else?

[fickle flax]

Nope kill feed says stinger

[sullen violet]

Probably close enough somehow then 🤷

[fickle flax]

I was able to do the same exact thing to another jet pilot, dude was 800m+ in the air and I could easily lock on

[sullen violet]

🤔

[fickle flax]

im just as confused

this was in a match of 32v32 on caspian border

doubt that makes a difference

[sullen violet]

If i remember correctly and from what i expect it's not supposed to go that far

[fickle flax]

no way its supposed to go that far

was thinking solflam but that doesnt increase range

oh well skill issue ig

[sullen violet]

Could be though 🤔

🤷

[pine roost]

Not long ago the range on the stinger was a cylinder that was an infinite distance vertically, they said they'd changed it but perhaps it got accidentally rolled back

[fickle flax]

If only my bomber had flares 😭

[tall jackal]

Like the recoil bug lol

[pine roost]

oh god don't remind me of that

[tall jackal]

Got rolled back

[pine roost]

those were bad times

[fickle flax]

omg that would be hilarious if that was the case, cause the person who fired the stinger was directly below me

[pine roost]

[fickle flax]

welp, guess I have to be careful not to be directly above someone with a stinger at all times 💀

[pine roost]

try and get a clip of it next time, send it to ArmouredKill or post a thing on the forums so they can double check

[fickle flax]

If it happens again during my bombing runs Ill def snag a clip and send it their way

[mental delta]

It's not the best FPS ever...

[naive ember]

It is cause it actually feels like a battlefield game unlike the others

Dudes with nearly 3k hours come on man

[mental delta]

It's actually one of the only BF game which doesn't feel like a BF game

That's so dumb lol

Yeah he has 3k hours so he has to be right about everything

[full burrow]

realistically I dont hate any individual new "concept" that 2042 tried to do, its the half assed result/execution that fucks me

[full burrow]

other than 128 of course, that was a braindead decision full stop

[quiet shell]

I personally liked the plus system and wouldn't mind it's return if like, they dialed it back so it was just optics and maybe lasers and grips to give more value to the customization menu for like changing barrels, receivers, ammunition type, etc

[amber kelp]

128 was easily one of the most requested features before 2042 dropped, it made sense to try it.

and BBR shows its not necessarily impossible to pull off.

[dapper night]

Was Specialist also the requested feature? Cuz I didn't anyone asking for that

[amber kelp]

obviously not

specialists were a stupid idea

[dapper night]

Highly agree

[full burrow]

wtf requested by who, and no it is very widely known that people are idiots and absolutely do not need to be listened to at all times

[amber kelp]

most people, I remember this being a hope that was pretty common since the end of BFV.
Remember, you are looking at the idea with hindsight. For most people back in 2019, 128 just seemed to be "battlefield but bigger", and the recent rise of BR games and milsims with 100 players made people think that Battlefield was no longer "the large scale game"

[full burrow]

nah I never considred it a good thing or neccesary, no hindsight for me. 64 > 80 seems a very logical jump, 10 4 man squads ect

But I can believe that people though about it

[naive ember]

Battlefield is the only large scale game, 100 players dropping down at random parts of a large map to loot and shoot doesn't count at all

There's nothing like Rush XL at all

[amber kelp]

At the end of the day, people saw games with 100 players becoming more popular and asked "why cant we do that".

It didnt matter that BRs were spread out or that Milsim games tend to run like hot shit

[naive ember]

Those "people" aren't real gamers man

Part of why the gaming industry is bad

[quiet shell]

If they were to increase the player count

I would max it out at like 100 players MAYBE

80 or 90 at best

[full burrow]

also br games dont/didnt tend to be that graphics heavy

[pearl ridge]

The problem with the large scale was always that there simply was just too much shit going on all at once

[tall jackal]

And the maps in 2042 were just horribly designed

[vocal tusk]

One of the problems, but FAR from the worst one

[tawny carbon]

Ngl I enjoy 128p multiplayer alot. I enjoy chaotic that it have over 64p. After playing 128p. 64p feels to slow imo

[vocal tusk]

I enjoy it sometimes, but when I usually find that even with a full squad of good players, you dont have all that much impact on round outcome.

Which is not true in 64P Conquest, a single good squad can lead a team to a win

[zealous loom]

I don't care if 64 or 128 just want good player density in maps

[rain elbow]

It's just that the maps don't suit the player numbers. 128p could be fun but it currently just devolves into 80+ players playing COD in the middle objective.

I've had good moments in the game that occasionally scratched the battlefield itch, but they were typically along the outside objectives of a given map.

[zealous loom]

Fresh from Tom https://insider-gaming.com/exclusive-new-details-on-the-next-battlefield-game/

[remote kiln]

if they're wise they'll call it just battlefield

battlefield 6 is a terrible name because 5 exists

[echo yew]

Battlefield 0

[rain elbow]

They should call it Betterfield

[echo yew]

battlefield revenge of the fallen

[tall jackal]

Transformers, nice 😏

[dapper night]

45 Weapons and 10 maps at launch?! That's what I wanted if true

[vocal tusk]

*10 Good maps, all available in the same map rotations

Remembers that 2042 had 13 maps at launch

[zealous loom]

Agree

[rain elbow]

Battlefield: Escape 2 Africa

[amber kelp]

Nah Battlefield 6 goes hard

[dapper night]

Well technically I am specifically talking about AoW maps at launch 🤓

[amber kelp]

Plus just "battlefield" makes the game harder to search online

Thinking on the "USA" map, Henderson said it was tropical right? I wonder if its the Florida Keys. Given the story we're told, I could see a PMC having a foothold in the Carribean or something.

[fervent rose]

a battle royale in florida kinda goes hard

dice is cooking

[amber kelp]

I feel like if it was in an oversea territory like Puerto Rico or Guam, or in Hawaii, then he would just say that place. The Florida Keys is the only tropical place in the US I'd call mainland

[fervent rose]

hawaii probably makes more sense

[dapper night]

It better feature Florida Man and Crocodiles

[fervent rose]

better geography

[dapper night]

I wonder how will they incorporate the Ring since Firestorm uses the Walls of Fire

[amber kelp]

though story wise I cant really see Hawaii being under attack.
I really hope the PMC in question isnt just cartoonishly powerful.

(ah fuck it, its a battlefield plot they probably are)

[fervent rose]

its a force strong enough to take on NATO so its gonna be something silly

i just hope we get some cool maps and cool vehicles out of it

[dapper night]

https://tenor.com/view/essp-galahad-slumber-party-advanced-warfare-cod-gif-25200193

[amber kelp]

this is my fear

[dapper night]

Kevin Spacey did a good job tbh

[amber kelp]

I mean, smaller forces can be a thorn in the side of large ones by simply being rat bastards in hard to reach spots. See: afghanistan

[dapper night]

Especially with the PMC stuffs

[amber kelp]

plus I suspect the PMC is probably russian backed

[tall jackal]

Bear PMC from tarkov

[dapper night]

Or is a long time Military Industry that used to provide arms for NATO and got to the point that were big

[amber kelp]

also kinda cartoonish ngl.
"yes lets go to war with our customers"

[fervent rose]

battlefield rogue turkey

[vocal tusk]

NATO vs a multi-national PMC is probably the best thing to do. So it make sense TBH.

[amber kelp]

this could be a really plausible scenario, a map in the US just makes me question if it will be

[hard jay]

They should make it the Americans vs the big bad arabs

Back to roots

[dapper night]

Yeah but it all boils down to the Leader seeing how the world is messed up and end up being a "morally grey" again like Kevin Spacey

[hard jay]

Advanced warfare mentioned

[fervent rose]

ha. they already said they wont be doing that again

[amber kelp]

middle eastern coalition time
*badass music plays again

[fervent rose]

but the music tho..

[hard jay]

Yeah baby

[fervent rose]

god it was good

[amber kelp]

best part is that they fucking win

[hard jay]

As long as its not "team vs enemy team"

Thats corny asf

[tall jackal]

What do y'all think the music/main theme is going to be closest to?

[dapper night]

Whooo Yeah Baby!!! That's what I'm talking about

[tall jackal]

Or hope for

[mortal iron]

[dapper night]

BF3/BF4

If they can do another Battlefield 2

Much better

[hard jay]

I hope we get a metal version of the bf theme

[mortal iron]

Upcoming one looks good so far.

[amber kelp]

If they had balls they would bring back the MEC and make them a justified faction.

[tall jackal]

Yeah or elektronic/BF4 style

[fervent rose]

i'd like some trent reznor style theme

[tall jackal]

It has to be epic and memorable anywys

[fervent rose]

of course

[hard jay]

Erm electronic/dubstep revival?

[tall jackal]

Unlike the farting broken 2042 trumpets

2042's music is literally the worst I've ever listened to

[dapper night]

You mean broken whale sounds

[mortal iron]

[vocal tusk]

A blend of orchestral and metal. (Apocalyptica style)

[fervent rose]

2042's "music" would be really cool in an art house film maybe

[tall jackal]

No thats what we had with 2042

[trim nexus]

New info dropped by tom

[tall jackal]

The post?

[fervent rose]

the composer knocked it out of the park with chernobyl but god 2042 missed the mark

[hard jay]

They should start coming up with fictional teams again

It was cool in bf2

[tall jackal]

They should bring back the Bf4 composer

[dapper night]

[trim nexus]

different calibres will do different environmental damage
twice as many weapons as BF2042
map count closer to launch of BF4
dragging downed teammates

[dapper night]

Well for starters they can't go with China cuz money and they can't go Middle East specifically but a Coalition could work same goes for China combines something like the PAC again

[fervent rose]

3 legacy features and one new thing

[civic mason]

"make a rule that gives my character a big gun that holds a lot of bullets"

[hard jay]

Dragging downed teammates makes me think they took inspiration from project reality...or battlebit

[trim nexus]

Calibre destruction wasn’t a thing iirc

[fervent rose]

Or delta force, you can fireman carry in that

[trim nexus]

Not as detailed as R6 as the way he’s reporting it to be

[fervent rose]

and it works well

[dapper night]

I can see tons of content especially with the Dragging downed teammates especially a guy named Doom49

[tall jackal]

Dragging teammates is good because reviving in one spot is dumb

[rose fiber]

"2042 is best BF" lmao
This title literary made people apologize for shitting on BF V

[trim nexus]

I hope crash landings will be a thing

It was supposed to be in BFV

[dapper night]

It is especially on Hot areas/spots especially infantry only maps or meatgrinder maps

Reviving someone on Metro is a death sentence

[amber kelp]

or it lets you help someone whos downed when youre not a medic

[vocal tusk]

If they do have dragging, I wonder if squad revive is out

[hard jay]

Why can't they go middle east?

[rose fiber]

I think BF is way to fast paced for dragging feature

[dapper night]

Controversy plus Money

[amber kelp]

BF pacing varies and I hope this one is a bit slower

[trim nexus]

Also does the US have a tropical location??

[amber kelp]

Florida Keys, Hawaii

[trim nexus]

Tom says the battle royal will take place in the US in a tropical location

[fervent rose]

the dragging feature should just be tight and fast, but i assume the pacing of the game will be a little slower than 2042 anyway

[dapper night]

Although they can if it's a combined group like MEC again

[trim nexus]

Sounds perfect for Hawaii lol

[vital quail]

Probably like Montana

[amber kelp]

mmm yes very tropical

[rose fiber]

Even for older titles, BF3/4/1. Revive is quick. ANd if you would die because of that time you spent reviving, you'd die dragging teammate that takes longer

[dapper night]

I feel it will be a little slower than 2042 since the next game's inspiration is BF3 and 4

[trim nexus]

My bet is Hawaii

The circle will be lava

From a volcano

[rose fiber]

Dragging would only make sense if revive would last 10+ seconds imo

[amber kelp]

how exactly would that work?

[amber kelp]

only if you are a medic, but it could be useful to get someone to a medic

[trim nexus]

I mean same way firestorm did

But instead of fire it’s lava

[amber kelp]

goofy

[vital quail]

That would mean there would be like 10 volcanos around the map edges

[trim nexus]

It makes sense for the setting

[vocal tusk]

*Drags teammate to water > throws them in

[trim nexus]

Didint Hawaii literally have instances of running lava through populated areas

[vital quail]

Oh my god please let me throw my recon squadmates in the water

[amber kelp]

real talk let me drag enemies away.
take queues from battle bit

[rose fiber]

On that note yea possible, but would people really bother? There's bunch of medics that ignore downed players. I think it'd be worse with people caring to drag

[fervent rose]

its a feature they're developing for the battle royale primarily

[dapper night]

Make it sure that they have proximity chat first

[amber kelp]

please god

[trim nexus]

Maybe revives could be limited to when you’re not in combat

[vital quail]

Lol

[trim nexus]

So you will be incentivized to drag your teammates away from direct fire

Would stop people from reviving you for you to only get shot in the face

[tame crow]

this is garbage

[amber kelp]

really depends on how the game is designed as a whole.

[dapper night]

Away or towards

[trim nexus]

Well you know how the whole (can’t spawn on squad mate because they’re on combat) thing

Maybe that but for res

[vocal tusk]

Can I drag enemy players away so they cant be revived 😛

[amber kelp]

Plenty of people dragged teammates in BBR for one reason or another

[vital quail]

If someone shoots 10 feet away from you it still counts as in combat lol

[tame crow]

medics already not doing their job and you want to add a drag out of combat.... seriously? come on lad lmao.

[dapper night]

It's already being tested in the next game wdym?

[trim nexus]

We need a grading system lol

Give people ranks

[tame crow]

yea and it should never make the cut

it is trash

[rose fiber]

As I see it now, revive time would have to be longer than time you spend time dragging wounded teammate to cover, otherwise you're more exposed to dying with dragging.

[dapper night]

Based on the extra info that was given by Tom

[trim nexus]

“It is trash”

Bro you haven’t played it yet

You literally can’t make that statement

[tame crow]

coz i know this player base

[dapper night]

So you wanted to revive someone in the middle of a crossfire instead of dragging them to safety?

[amber kelp]

Id say dragging is the first true green flag, cause it suggests the game design is focusing on players interacting with eachother.

[fervent rose]

i assume youll be able to yoink people around from behind cover

[vocal tusk]

Dragging players, even if not used for anything like reviving or pulling players out of hot areas...is still an objectively fun thing.

[tame crow]

i just want medics to revive. adding a drag is going to make things worse.

[mental delta]

Some people seem to think BF6 could release early next year lol

[trim nexus]

Oh also

The name

[vital quail]

Using a smoke grenade would be much more effective than dragging

[tall jackal]

Bro stop trolling

[mental delta]

Community testing should begin early next year

[fervent rose]

the fireman carry feature in Delta Force works great

[mental delta]

Not actual release

[trim nexus]

They’re considering calling it either just Battlefield or Battlefield 6

Which one would you guys prefer

[amber kelp]

BF6

[fervent rose]

a drag button would be fine

[tall jackal]

I think Bf5 or just BF

[fervent rose]

bf5 already exists

[dapper night]

Not really cuz even they will revive even if they throw smoke they will get killed regardless since I have killed alot of medics that did that in BF4 and BFV

[tall jackal]

Makes no sense for BF6 since there were no 5

[tame crow]

how am i trolling? do medics leave people down all the time in this game or not? seriously you lot are the ones trolling and deluding yourselves with fancy mechanics that the room temp iq players on this game will not be able to comprehend.

[tall jackal]

Except V

[mental delta]

I'd prefer Battlefield : Modern Urban Combat Warfare Operation 6

[trim nexus]

Bro

[mental delta]

But that's just me

[trim nexus]

Do you know what V stands for

Lmao

[fervent rose]

i think just Battlefield because it's probably not going to continue the story of 3/4

[amber kelp]

really a shame that they havent released anything since bf1 in 2016

[trim nexus]

[mental delta]

Technically no lol BFV is BF well V not 5

[trim nexus]

Both are good

Battlefield implies a clean slate

[vital quail]

Everyone will also just complain about the animation that comes with dragging someone because it takes too much time, just like the bf5 revive animation

[tawny carbon]

I will be surprised if they just call it “battlefield” and make it run for years.

[amber kelp]

3 didnt continue the story of 2 and 5 didnt continue the story of 4.
the storyline just isnt relevant

[trim nexus]

Battlefield 6 implies the continuation of the main series

[fervent rose]

but v is 5

[trim nexus]

And moving away from 2042 era

[dapper night]

Unless they make the revive mechanic like BF3/4 again but then again you have a small window to escape which is pretty much a easy kill if you ask me

[vocal tusk]

Dragging would work if squad revives took WAY longer.

Like if dragging is a 1 second action, squad revive is a 10 second action. A player would, in many situations, be better off to not do a "hot" revive, and instead drag another player to cover, then revive

[thick relic]

yo new battlefied on the way ?

[trim nexus]

Reviving mini game

[mental delta]

If it's a reboot yeah definite-fucking-ly

[trim nexus]

Cut the gauze

[amber kelp]

yeah but squad revive only works on squadmates

[mental delta]

If they're making a whole new time-line just name it Battlefield

[tall jackal]

True

Soft reboot

[tame crow]

idk know why they would even worry about changing revives. worrying signs they are focusing on the wrong things.

[dapper night]

Hard reboot or a Soft Reboot?

[thick relic]

get rid of the rainbow crew in EA and it will be a great battlfield

[tall jackal]

Hard

[mental delta]

10 seconds would be too much but like 6 or 7 why not

[hard jay]

Middle easterns (such as i) never had a problem with how arabs were conveyed in video games,we were just happy to get mentioned whether it be in a bad or good way

[dapper night]

It's not like that's the important thing they're focusing on tbf

[mental delta]

Could be a complete reboot if they begin a whole new timeline with a whole new lore

[fervent rose]

6 second revives?

[vocal tusk]

If they REALLY want to slow down gameplay, they should make reviving take longer

[vital quail]

Didn't take long to get a bum to join in the convo

[vocal tusk]

Especially squad reviving

[rose fiber]

Revive time has to fit the pace of the game, if it's too long people will jsut refuse to be revived even if it's safe

[mental delta]

I disagree people rarely revive why would it be if you made it slightly longer therefore discourage them to revive even more

[tame crow]

it would be a large detrimental change. see people like me would adapt however you have to think of all the current state of reviving rn, medics running around not doing it. how do you lot think a drag will help that? it will make it worse.

[fervent rose]

and it makes medics less likely to revive

[trim nexus]

lol projecting much

[vocal tusk]

True, but it also depends on the maps.

[rose fiber]

There's BF revive time adn there's Arma revive time

[tame crow]

welcome

[tall jackal]

Bro focusing on the wrong things!? They have had more time, devs and skills than ever to make the next game

Why would 1 mechanic make the whole game trash

[vocal tusk]

If it were up to me, squad reviving wouldnt even be a thing.

[hard jay]

I just hope the dev team has people with a vision,and not care about offending people that don't even play the games in the first place.

[trim nexus]

I know it might be controversial but maybe I do think that a new game should have new features

[tame crow]

are you actually going to engage with my criticism of it or just ignore because you cannot comprehend what i type? lol

[trim nexus]

Shocker I know

[rose fiber]

Same, I think it made medics more useless

[mental delta]

Me neither lol only Medics should have the ability to revive

[tall jackal]

You're changing the argument each time

[dapper night]

Drag will make sure that good medics will able to help you get to safety before reviving instead of risking themselves getting killed sure there will be always bad medics running around but a mechanic that will help them changes alot

[hard jay]

"make it like bf3/4!!!!" Or maybe just... go play these games?

[fervent rose]

but medics in bfv and bf2042 are among the best kits

how is squad revive making them useless

[hard jay]

Medics and engineers were always the best

[tame crow]

no i am on point this whole time. your beloved change will make the current medic situation worse.

you stay on point

[dapper night]

Yeah which is why I used Medics alot for BFV at least

[vital quail]

Dragging will put medics in much more danger lol

[trim nexus]

Stop saying it will make it worse

You don’t have the game

You have no clue

[tall jackal]

Makes no sense... in what way makes it worse?

[fervent rose]

yeah bfv especially, full medic stacks were so powerful

[hard jay]

If they're gonna add dragging then does that mean they're gonna increase the revive time?

[dapper night]

I can kill alot of enemies and revive some players at the same time especially with Suomi and Type 2A

[hard jay]

It'd be funny if they just let us carry the weightless ragdoll around

[tame crow]

it will. do you not know this player base? i am not talking about me, i will adapt i play medic. however what you lot seem to forget is not everyone is a sweat like folks here, casuals exist.

[trim nexus]

Also talk to fixated

Dragging will probably be optional

[fervent rose]

yeah its literally just an extra button

[trim nexus]

Again for those times in tight space where it’s best to res not under direct fire

[tame crow]

if it is optional i have no problem with it

[fervent rose]

thats how its going to work, yes

theres no way you are forced to drag

[trim nexus]

Well then stop making assertions that it will be bad

lol

[tall jackal]

So still waiting for the argument against it

[trim nexus]

It might not even make it to launch

No one knows

[tame crow]

no because they might change the times to revive to be longer

[vital quail]

All of this may be pointless anyway if it's br only

[dapper night]

Well you answered it this mechanic is optional and just add layers

[tame crow]

that is the issue

longer revive time

forcing a drag

[tall jackal]

I know they wont

[dapper night]

It's not like you are forced to dragged them

[tame crow]

come on keep up

[fervent rose]

yeah the drag might not even be in regular mp

[trim nexus]

Ur just making stuff up to get upset about

They could just keep the times the same

And dragging be optional to again, res behind cover

[dapper night]

We still don't even know the revive system that they're using

[hard jay]

I don't see the point of dragging unless its in like in a very specific situation where you're trying to drag your teammate that was peaking back into cover, instead of reviving them out in the open

[trim nexus]

And not get insta domed when you get revived

[fervent rose]

you throw smoke on body, grab body and move to cover

[dapper night]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-this-guy-gets-it-got-it-gif-16228296

[trim nexus]

I’m more excited about the varied gun calibre destruction

I hope that means anti material rifles will actually knock down walls

[vital quail]

If you throw a smoke, you shouldn't need to move away lol

[tame crow]

if they add drag and keep times the same fine. if they increase revive time therefore forcing a drag then it will be a disaster.

[tall jackal]

I am equally hyped for all things

[tame crow]

the pace of the drag would be vital too

[fervent rose]

its pretty easy to shoot where the dead guy was to just kill him again

i do it all the time to people that revive like that

[tame crow]

sorry to be critical but someone has to think about things properly here.

[dapper night]

Yeah but if they're using the BFV and 2042's revive system they're still doomed since you can fire them if you the exact location of the downed player

[vital quail]

You can also do it still to shoot the medic that will be dragging

[tall jackal]

Oh cry. Its not like they arr going to add a CTE thing next year for us to actaully give FEEDBACK

[vocal tusk]

People basing all their logic on the fast pace of BFV and 2042 😄

[fervent rose]

not if its a fast and fluid move

[hard jay]

Yeah thats what im thinking, dragging can also imply slow and tedious reviving,but not always the case

[dapper night]

Ooh nvm you added the dragged mechanic

[fervent rose]

we havent seen how it works

[hard jay]

I mean project reality has both dragging and instant revives

Doesn't make dragging obsolete

[tame crow]

stop simping for devs and a company who have failed many times over. look at the state of this franchise lmao.

it is all talk

[trim nexus]

[fervent rose]

i promise you that in delta force's extraction mode their "body drag" is a great feature

[tame crow]

we will see if they gonna have action

[fervent rose]

its a fireman carry in that game

[trim nexus]

We are talking about leaks

[dapper night]

It's okay to be critical but lets not all get doomed for a sec

[next onyx]

You'd be surprised the amount of people that don't shoot through smoke.

[trim nexus]

It’s not that serious

[civic mason]

Was told by a mod not to talk about leaks

[vital quail]

I pretty much never get killed when throwing smoke lol

[trim nexus]

[dapper night]

We're just speculating while being cautious since we don't know how this all works

[dapper night]

Really? I always do since it's a free kill

[trim nexus]

Okay then, official info

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, lets not wait and see...and immediately hate the devs work (Before we even see anything). Thats 100% the best, most healthy way to be as a community...and anyone thinking the opposite is s simp!!!!! /s

[tame crow]

it is all talk.....

[rose fiber]

In the end I don't think dragging feature will cost lots of resources compared to rest of the game. Worst case scenario, it won't be used as intended but will be fun to troll

[hard jay]

Also,do headshots prevent revives?

[trim nexus]

I hope the CTE is like feb - march

[next onyx]

No.

[fervent rose]

no why should they? being direct hit by a tank shell doesnt prevent revive either

[dapper night]

It's all talk but we're currently talking about a mechanic that was shared by Tom not by DICE themselves

[hard jay]

Weird imo

[tame crow]

anyone who is buying this talk and hype is a problem. we need to see action. because we get this flowery language all the time from this company across many franchises and they let folks down again and again.

[fervent rose]

reviving in bf has always been "weird" but fun

[tall jackal]

True but his sources are very legit most of the time

[hard jay]

Headshots shouldn't allow you to be revivable,that way it makes headshots actually rewarding

[rose fiber]

Might be wrong, but I think in Hardline certain deaths prevented you from being revived

[vocal tusk]

You are also a problem, stop trying to shit in our collective cornflakes, let people make up their own minds/have their own opinions

[fervent rose]

you have this intense crazy gritty warfare

[next onyx]

In bf5 you were prevented from being revived if you took more than 200 damage in a single instance.

So if you got headshotted by a tank you couldn't be. Or of course, be the victim of a take down.

[fervent rose]

and then you go BOOP and revive

[amber kelp]

who is a very consistent journalist that has reliably leaked these things year after year

[fervent rose]

its funny

[dapper night]

No one is buying the talk but at the same time it's not bad being "cautiously optimistic"

[hard jay]

I mean what if you manage to headshot a dude from a long distance with a sniper and then he just gets revived

I think that shouldn't be the case

[dapper night]

They messed up twice yeah but I wanted to see it first and at the same time speculate

[vital quail]

The only things that prevent revive in 2042 is roadkill and fall damage I think

[tame crow]

this is cope

[civic mason]

What I find weird is jack frags' video covering the investor day stuff... Apparently after reading what ripple effect is contributing to the new BF game, he says that it "confirms a battle Royale" and I was like... What

[fervent rose]

when you get "terminated" or whatever too ya

those odd cases

[civic mason]

Trying to be positive is cope... Alright

[amber kelp]

there is little reason to be hyped atm

[vital quail]

Environment effects yeah

[vocal tusk]

Ah yes, the approach of "Wait and see" is cope. go back to being a miserable bastard on the internet mate

[tame crow]

we are dealing with EA here

[hard jay]

What they NEED to do is not make another bf2042

[tame crow]

folks a little naive. you guys new to gaming?

[trim nexus]

Bro then why tf are you here

[hard jay]

Unless they really want to see bf flop and have it be a money laundering scheme

[trim nexus]

I don’t understand you doomers

If it’s all over and dice and ea suck

Then fucking stop coming back

[tame crow]

coz i want this franchise to revive

[tame crow]

seethe

[trim nexus]

And it helps being a downer?

It doesn’t sound like you do

[hard jay]

It helps being cautious

[trim nexus]

It sounds like you want to complain

[vocal tusk]

Lets all sit around for the next year and be a miserable, unbearable lot. Not hopeful for a better game and future to the franchise. Best way to be!! 100%

[trim nexus]

Just don’t buy the game

It’s that easy

[hard jay]

You shouldn't get too excited or too pessimistic

[hard jay]

?? I smell bait

[tame crow]

yes. it helps telling folks to calm the hell down as it is all talk. talk this company engages in all the time and fails to deliver.

[fervent rose]

it is actually genius advice

[trim nexus]

Hold on, you realize that you can be excited for a new release, and just wait for reviews right

[fervent rose]

its a dice product

[trim nexus]

How is that complicated

[fervent rose]

you probably shouldnt buy it

[vocal tusk]

We are literally just talking about how features could work in theory, there is no need to be so miserable

[fervent rose]

maybe 2 years after launch

[civic mason]

Yeah but as well idk if making a BR is the play... I hope Jack is wrong here

[dapper night]

If so then speculating isn't a bad thing but at the same be cautious it's not like it's impossible to be interested and being cautious at the same time

[tame crow]

it is not misery or doom. it is realism folks lmao.

[vocal tusk]

You are miserable

[tame crow]

be realisitic

[trim nexus]

They are launching a CTE before the games launch anyway

[hard jay]

You can be excited and cautious at the same time?

[trim nexus]

So just shut the fuck up and wait

[tame crow]

personal attack time now huh? lmao

[tame crow]

lol mald

[trim nexus]

Saying “it’s EA product and it will be bad” is not cautious

[vocal tusk]

Personal attack to be completely honest about how someone acts.

[tall jackal]

Jeez you really are miserable

[tame crow]

hahaha

[quiet shell]

So some thoughts based on the Henderson news

1. Just how much slower paced is this battlefield if we can now drag our teammates? Cause previously There was no need to drag a downed teammate because the revive was so fast that it wasn't worth dragging them into cover. So now the balance has to deter reviving on the spot to promote dragging

2. How are DICE going to prevent murder holes with the caliber based destruction? Cause if it does work like Siege then people are going to shoot tiny holes into walls and use those to kill players who can't see the hole and rooting them out might be annoying if they're in a hard to reach space. Siege ultimately had to get rid of caliber based destruction to rectify that issue.

3. The two factions are PMC and NATO, does this imply in-depth cutomisation or are we getting different NATO factions on different maps with appropriately dressed PMC's on the other side?

[hard jay]

I don't blame him tbh

[trim nexus]

I do

[hard jay]

Okay

[trim nexus]

If you are like that why do you keep coming back to these spaces