battlefield-2042

[peak zodiac]

big scam ain gon lie

[remote kiln]

yes

iirc

[peak zodiac]

now i gotta find a new server to boost ngl ngl

why do i keep getting a pop up that looks like it comes out 2010 when i try to launch a battlefield game

asking me for my login

[oblique vigil]

So that's why I win so many fights in hazard zone

[naive ember]

[vocal tusk]

Many of us boosters should be regulars anyway, but the old bot for adding regulars was useless

16,000 messages and counting for me, what more do you need to do to be considered a regular lol

[full burrow]

im guessing there was a 3 hour period or something in the last few years where you didnt send a message

[vocal tusk]

Understandable hehe

[spark gale]

Its nice with a 2xp weekend when the servers are having major issues lol

[spare quest]

2 of my friends had a game crash to desktop without any errors an hour ago fun stuff

the last update messed something up

[spark gale]

im just having connection issues, dropping games and just refuses to connect again

[low timber]

No. That was removed in v7.0 with the suppressor overhaul.

[spark gale]

seems the servers died completely now.. good stuff

[remote kiln]

ah kk nvm

[pearl ridge]

Only with heavy suppressors. Usually it just removes tracers and lowers detection distance on the map, with its effect being amplified with regular suppressors

Actually I’m not sure on the distance part without suppressors

[oblique vigil]

So not with the wrapped suppressor?

[spare quest]

no

[echo yew]

They should buff the NTW 50 methinks it would be funny

[weak vector]

some of these invisible walls piss me off

I clearly shot someone's head but it clipped on some boundary outside of the box he was very much exposed out of

[weak vector]

what's the point of using Rao on enemy aircraft? I disable stuff but the pilots just shrug it off like it's insignificant

enemy tanks and light armor seem to be annoyed, but aircraft just don't really get anything worth messing up

[eager spire]

i mean if the pilot is decent they're gonna know to not hang around an area if their shit's getting disabled.

it's still annoying because they can't really do anything and also it's really hard to determine where this is coming from.

[weak vector]

funny thing: I disabled the same heli at least 3-4 times in a row while defending objectives in BT

I just don't know WHAT parts get disabled on those things

so because he just didn't try to avoid the area and kept sticking around, I thought Rao just didn't really do anything to it

[eager spire]

i don't remember either

i don't play 2042, you'd have to ask someone that did.

because i don't like playing video games that don't have functional mouse input.

[vital quail]

There just aren't any engineers trying to take out the disabled vehicle

Or there are boris players using javelins or something dumb

[vital quail]

There is some kind of bug that disconnects you from the match when you switch squads

Has happened too many times to not just be a coincidence

[unique geyser]

Honestly

I get real pissed from this AA stuff

Can’t even fly a fucking UH-60 in Conquest without it getting shot down within 2 minutes

[brittle ruin]

why does this game have to use 2 launchers and even after that , i just get the satellite cinematic without actually connecting to the server

why can t i use the desktop shortcut

why is the bf4 bug of sounds and graphics not loading in still in this game

hardline dind't have it

[still vault]

If you have the same bugs across games perhaps it's' time to look away from the games for a reason

[craggy void]

To anyone still struggling to launch bf through steam and the other ea fixes haven’t worked; try clearing your steam cache in the settings and change your download region on steam, worked for me

[brittle ruin]

what do you mean

the textures and sound taking a while to load after entering the match only happen in 4 and 2042

it never happened to me in 1 or hardline

[still vault]

So you might have an issue that only affects those 2 games.

Works fine in 4 and 2042 here.

[brittle ruin]

still doesnt explain why i have to use 2 launchers

ubisoft is guilty of this too

why do they need an additional data tracker

[still vault]

You could turn it around. Just because you buy the game on Steam why does Steam need to run? Why can't the game just boot and only use the launcher that is used to handle the social aspects?

But other than that I agree, 2 launchers are annoying

[brittle ruin]

you can boot games without steam

[still vault]

And just adds to any potential things that can go wrong

[brittle ruin]

i think gog does that too

[still vault]

GOG doesn't lock its games down to the launcher, Steam does

[brittle ruin]

yeh , that s a good thing about gog

why do games need launchers anyway

ive just remembered bf4's browser server menu

which wouldnt work on opera and some other browsers

[still vault]

Battlelog was brilliant and ahead of its time.

[brittle ruin]

why

[still vault]

But should probably have come with its own browser instance too so people could have avoided some of the bugs that appeared.

[brittle ruin]

wasn't it just a server browser

[still vault]

Platoon management, forum, social feed, weapon and loadout config etc. etc.

Also added the option for the in-game map so you could have it on a secondary monitor.

Overall just brilliant for multimonitor setups.

[brittle ruin]

given it worked

[still vault]

Never had big issues, but then we are back to it probably should have had it's own browser included.

[robust vapor]

d0kzigs

[brittle ruin]

do you have any expectations for the next bf game

given all the 'return to form' bs

[still vault]

I dare not expect anything 😄

[brittle ruin]

i hope they ditch the specialists

their voices are so annoying

[still vault]

I don't mind their gadgets, but should be more regular soldiers for my taste

[brittle ruin]

the gadgets are alright

i wish the recon ones were more 'active'

the most interactive one is casper's drone when it's full of c4 lol

c5*

[still vault]

The anti-spotting gadget is pretty nifty

Flying drone was ok until they removed it's emp gadget

[brittle ruin]

it had an emp?

i saw clips of it disabling gadgets and what not

[still vault]

You could target vehicles and gadgets and zap them

[brittle ruin]

the mav could do that from a huge distance

minus the vehicle part

[still vault]

Great for destroying spawnpoints and annoying camping tanks

[brittle ruin]

yeh

my wishlist for the next bf goes like this

ditch the operators

1st person melee kills

the fortification mechanic and movement from bf5

more distraction

and expand the control gamemode

have more tanks but make them more fragile

so the game can go from infantry battles to mixed to vehicle vs vehicle , all while the map is destroyed but you can still rebuild

it s shocking how static the maps are in 2042

[mossy badge]

First they should work on gunplay that feels and sounds good with some recoil

[pine roost]

Mostly cause if they ramped up destruction there’d be no cover at all

[brittle ruin]

that s the point of the fortification mechanic

[pine roost]

And I’d rather actually have some part of the map left to fight in

[brittle ruin]

enter bf hardline

[pine roost]

Yeah fortifications remedied that a bit and I liked that

[mossy badge]

I never played hardline

Hardline didn’t have destruction?

[brittle ruin]

it had a milder levelution

[spare quest]

it was amazing

[brittle ruin]

and as much as bf4

but yeah , bfh was awesome

[mossy badge]

Levolution is gimmick mostly

[spare quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5l17nnVMp4 good stuff

[mossy badge]

How can people trash about 2042 destruction and say hardline was better when it didn’t have destruction

[brittle ruin]

i feel 2042 has 0 destruction

[mossy badge]

I have like very few hours in 2042 and it has decent destruction

Hardline didn’t have any

[spare quest]

it literally had

[brittle ruin]

yeh

plus hardline wouldnt have benefitted from that much destruction

[mossy badge]

But than how 2042 has zero destruction

[brittle ruin]

stuff like hotwire and blood money didnt need it

[spare quest]

i never said that

[mossy badge]

People play 2042 with eyes closed?

[next onyx]

Everytime I see an oil tanker in real life I feel the urge to do a battlefield hardline moment.

[brittle ruin]

i am playing breakthrough on the swedish map

[spare quest]

spearhead

[brittle ruin]

and apart from the walls of a few houses , the map is very static

[mossy badge]

I don’t know I hope it’s not the flattest map

[next onyx]

Spearhead is pretty good.

[pine roost]

The first map that actually felt like a map

[next onyx]

It'd be nice if there was a game build around destruction. But thankfully it's not the basis for everything.

[brittle ruin]

it s has a lot of terrain

[pine roost]

For me it’s like a secondary priority.

[brittle ruin]

but even so

in bf1 you d get plenty of holes to hide in

also , i dont like the melee killcam

[mossy badge]

I tbh hate all the 2042 maps

[brittle ruin]

they are not all that bad

[mossy badge]

They look good tho

[brittle ruin]

they have interesting settings

like the antartica one

and the egypt one

[spare quest]

you said you have very few hours in 2042, did you even play all maps

[pine roost]

Renewal still feels like such a travesty

[spare quest]

huh

[mossy badge]

All of them

[pine roost]

It just feels like a superflat with like 4 somewhat fun areas to fight in

[next onyx]

Renewal.

[mossy badge]

There was one decent map it is a remake

I don’t know its name

[next onyx]

Breakaway I find fun in weirdly.

[mossy badge]

It’s set in Middle East

[next onyx]

It's not the best map in the game but it's probably one of the better ones on 128p with orbital.

[mossy badge]

Africa Harbour

[brittle ruin]

i feel like most of the maps have a pretty cool theme but they play like ass

[mossy badge]

It has good aesthetic

Arica harbor

[next onyx]

Issue initially was how they had to rush the game.

And the idea that the maps have to cater to everything.

They eventually broke that off starting with reclaimed.

[pine roost]

It sucks how there are only a small handful of maps I actually enjoy, but I can’t play any of them consistently due to no map filter of any kind

[next onyx]

Which I will say is one of the best maps in the game.

[next onyx]

Unfortunately.

[brittle ruin]

why the melee killcam

for me it works half the time

[pine roost]

We know why

[brittle ruin]

cod?

[pine roost]

Sell those fancy animations

[brittle ruin]

i ve never played any cod besides waw

[brittle ruin]

they suck

[pine roost]

Titanfall 2 did it better

Both stylistically and mechanically

[brittle ruin]

the titan executions were awesome

[spare quest]

bf1 had nice melee takedowns

we need 1st person back for them

[brittle ruin]

bf1 had the best melee takedowns

[pine roost]

I don’t necessarily mind third person ones, but they absolutely should not be forced if you melee in the back, and shouldn’t take 5 seconds to complete

[next onyx]

Bf5s were the same but they had animations for people laying down on their backs.

Third person animations is cringe anyways.

[spare quest]

feels more personal in 1st person

[next onyx]

Variety is cool and all but they broke a system that never needed fixing.

[mossy badge]

First person melee looks mid to me

I enjoyed mw19 melee takedowns

[pine roost]

Let’s just be glad we don’t have counter knifing still lol

[brittle ruin]

booo

[brittle ruin]

yeh lol

[spare quest]

he's a cod shill that explains alot

[brittle ruin]

we will never get a battlefield game with such as good presentation as bf1

[next onyx]

Bf1 was when dice got to enjoy a consistent vision.

[pine roost]

And the folks behind it had to pitch it several times, shows they really wanted to try their hardest with it

[brittle ruin]

i hope they reconsider the player models , i hated the circus that was bf5

[mossy badge]

Using bolt actions were fun in bf1
its the only battlefield 1 enjoyed can do banzai charge which is fun but when missed feels sad

[next onyx]

Bf5 was fine with that.

[brittle ruin]

johnny america fighting against the pahntom of the opera and his japanese waifu in greece

[brittle ruin]

yeh , i wish back to basics was more popular

[mossy badge]

Battlefield 5 character models are highly detailed

[brittle ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDvlO9-dxnE

[spare quest]

still better than cod skins

[next onyx]

Not wrong there.

[brittle ruin]

a few years ago , they game away the full game for like 3 euros or something

and half the team was johnny america

[mossy badge]

Yeah I bought it and played 5 hours

[brittle ruin]

of course the enemy team couldnt do anything against the tom cruise cosplayers

[mossy badge]

5 maps are also boring

[brittle ruin]

they are huge

lots of dead space

but the running mechanic , the fortification and the squad leader abilities were cool

[mossy badge]

I liked bf1 maps the most

[pine roost]

Will admit the requisition points and call ins did a good job in pushing more squad play in my eyes

[mossy badge]

Only thing i disliked in bf1 is the automatic weapons feels so bad but bolt actions balanced that out for me

[brittle ruin]

the lmgs are op as shit in bf1

trust me lol

[mossy badge]

Yeah all you need is a Lewis

[brittle ruin]

screw the lewis

the m108 or whatever with the optical variant

[mossy badge]

But it’s ok there is always a gun like that in every game

[brittle ruin]

u can snipe whoever u wanted

[brittle ruin]

yeh , for me rn in 2042 is the svk

2 shot dmr lol

[mossy badge]

Aek

What was it in bf4

[brittle ruin]

yeh the aek

the sweaty assault weapon

[mossy badge]

As I said there is always a weapon like that in every fps

You got ak in csii
mp5 in mw19

[brittle ruin]

the ak is balanced in cs2

because the ct's have the defender adavantage

and then it can be picked up by the enemy

[mossy badge]

That’s true

Insurgency sandstorm is a nice game I see people playing different weapons

Most of the weapons do the job in few bullets maybe that’s why

[spare quest]

people playing different weapons? no way

[brittle ruin]

if u like insurgency , u should try out rising storm 2

[mossy badge]

I enjoy modern warfare that’s why I enjoyed modern warfare 2019 a lot

[brittle ruin]

modern warfare as in actual warfare

or the game

[spare quest]

the game

[brittle ruin]

never played it

[mossy badge]

Like ww2, modern warfare and futuristic warfare

So I am choosing modern warfare that is close to present day

I hope I explained it well

[brittle ruin]

ah i see

[burnt mango]

Hi guys, imma make this as simple as possible:
battlefield 2042 error code 1 8600 1s 66003S 1057125876O:0
Apparently my battlefield 2042 had received this error just on day one I download it, and all my other ea games (battlefield 5 and nfs heat) can't connect to their server either. I apologise if this is not the topic suitable for this channel, but I really need some help for this as I had already tried any convention ways I can think of but still can't get my games working

[remote kiln]

#direct-communication

[burnt mango]

i not sure if this gonna help (since its all my games from ea origin cant connect to the server) but ye imma wait first

[remote kiln]

origin isn't supported anymore, it has been deprecated for over a year

[burnt mango]

huh? i didnt know that lmao

[minor herald]

Hi. How can i connect to europa servers? Always i connect to middle east servers and no one players there

[burnt mango]

i got the game from xbox gamepass

[naive ember]

There's middle east servers? lmao

[remote kiln]

yeah hasn't been supported for over a year my guy need to use ea play

[dawn wraith]

I get kicked always after match started 😦

https://help.ea.com/en/help/faq/are-ea-servers-down/

Is there any eta if it's working again?

[burnt mango]

so is it means that the original ea launcher no longer supported?

[burnt mango]

my games still unable to went online unfortunately, imma try to ask ea answer hq for further help

[frank stratus]

happy realization day, we exist.

[waxen ivy]

fire

[misty birch]

hated that change

[pearl ridge]

Sigh. I fucking hate how the BSV, a dmr, can be modified to become an outright assault rifle while still retaining dmr power

Like that is such a stupid oversight

[chilly jacinth]

It's not even an oversight

It's intentional

[fringe spire]

anyone else get that weird bug where the game sometimes spawns you as a different class than you wanted

like my previous life was engineer, I respawn, I come back as medic

[pearl ridge]

At least get rid of the shortened suppressor

It should only have an extended option

[fringe spire]

its classification as a DMR is dumb if you ask me

[naive ember]

Thought it was a bug too but accidentally pressed L2 that switches class

[brittle ruin]

download the ea app and try to log in

[burnt mango]

i already tried that unfortunately

at this point my 1 hours and 17 minutes of gameplay in bf 2042 are purely seeing those bs error code lmao

[fringe spire]

I'm on keyboard

never plugged a controller in that computer ever

[vital quail]

A few times I've chosen a class at the start of a match but went into the collection screen to look at something on a different specialist. Doing that switched you to that specialist without you intentionally choosing them in the usual screen

On the next respawn of course

[naive ember]

Try controller it gives thumbs a work out

[fringe spire]

I never went in collection either

okay what the fuck

W and C can change your class left and right

you legit

cant unbind them

it's nowhere in the settings

[chilly jacinth]

Why would you even unbind them

[fringe spire]

because I don't want to change classes in the spawn menu with the keyboard ?

I use C to open the map (which opens the scoreboard instead in the spawn menu)

but if I view scoreboard in the spawn menu it changes my class selection

I just use my mouse to do it

[chilly jacinth]

If you're in the spawn menu you're already looking at the map

[fringe spire]

yes

I understand that they swap the "view map" key to view scoreboard

... though they could just make the key do nothing

however it SHOULD NOT change your character selection

I guess I'm the first person to notice it because I'm the only guy degenerate enough to bind C

and no one binds anything to Z (W on my french layout)

[opal salmon]

anything set to France is an L

[fringe spire]

still 100% success rate for getting made fun of the moment people find out I'm french

[pearl ridge]

It kind of says something about Haven and Stadium that trying to spawn on a point under attack will drop you in basically on top of a completely different point

One that might very well be enemy

[echo yew]

Dude i swear im getting 1 shotted by the PP29

[naive ember]

That gun is on and off for me and only use it on 128p, rather stick with AM40

[echo yew]

The bizon is so weird

In games in general

Sometimes it takes 9 shots to kill

Then it just 1 shots

The M5 is so mid tbh

[amber kelp]

csgo moment

[echo yew]

mw3 moment

[bitter mulch]

next BF only next gen?

[eager spire]

probably

[bitter mulch]

would make sense, but with a free to play battle royale i highly doubt

[glass condor]

Don’t see why not they can make maps smaller for old gen

[full burrow]

please no live service bullshit for next game

and we dont care about your lore and blog posts

hire programmers not interns to write up stuff

[amber kelp]

ah but look how popular live service games are! Ignore any and all evidence otherwise, they make tons of money so they must be loved. (do not look into who spends the majority of that money)

[glass condor]

Trust bf1 and 5 had small story’s that’s better then nth

And to be honest battlefield can be better if they put there head down and done what they want and not follow everyone else

Loved firestorm but behind a paywall nah

[full burrow]

think they succumb to the same issues many companies do and thats the decision makers being very out of touch with reality

as well as decision makers being people who simply havent been sacked (ie have been there a long time) instead of people who are actually good

[tropic berry]

Lore is a good way to keep tone and consistency across the game. There is also people who do like the lore 🙂
Building out lore and posting blogposts is not going to take away from other parts of the game, and hiring more isnt just magically going to fix things.

[fiery solar]

Bro NEEDS that early playtest invitation

[calm bison]

Yeah god forbid DICE try to explain the conflicts they invent

[torpid wadi]

Yeah i actually spent a lot of time reading the lore, it’s neat

[naive ember]

It's like telling star wars not to have any lore in their next game

[glass imp]

lore is the new bogeyman

[full burrow]

Thats just it tho. I get your sentiment but based on what ive seen and experienced with 2042 it seems like it does take away from other parts of the game, and it further feeds their marketing war machine. Instead of focusing on actual game design, they appeal to those who like lore, use it for to get more sales, meaning they get there money for doing nothing, furthering their greed as they realise they can sell the game without even focusing on the game and make more money from doing less

[stone cradle]

I would rather they try to ground the lore to make sense

[full burrow]

Star wars started off as "lore" basically, a cool story, that later got turned into a game.

Battlefield started off as a game, and now they are trying to fill in the gaps with lore

[naive ember]

Don't matter how it started bud

[glass imp]

Lore is factored in later, its gameplay first. This was mentioned in the Narrative Q&A a while back.

[nocturne cairn]

Any idea how to get permissions to post video links in the community creators section? I'm a creator in the community with clips.

[tropic berry]

This is objectively wrong, lore does not come before game design.

[full burrow]

no but in the case of 2042 in came instead of it

instead of fixing things or improving the game, they released new lore posts to get people excited

[glass imp]

The people writing the lore are different than those working on the actual game.

[full burrow]

those poor unpaid interns

[nocturne cairn]

https://www.twitch.tv/skydrillpro/clip/AntsyGenerousStarlingBatChest-bYlVrdG3yb1zDkM6

https://www.twitch.tv/skydrillpro/clip/DeafCharmingHedgehogBigBrother-RsZD51ruqCzGsz9m

let me post some of these bad boys in the right place EA community team!

[glass imp]

So you resort to saying this when you clearly aren’t familiar with how game studios operate.

[full burrow]

y so silius

sorry if i didnt add enough smileys on an entertainment platform

[glass imp]

…

[tropic berry]

Unpaid interns?

[frigid cedar]

How do i get the green skin for the rm68, which makes my supressor squared?

[eager spire]

With how things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if EA lays off a bunch of writers and just uses generative AI for writing lore in the future.

I still think we might even get AI generated maps. EA CEO seemed keen on using it.

[rough cobalt]

That was a season 4 skin

[slate meadow]

When do you think the next bf game will be?

[frigid cedar]

what does it mean when my wholse screen goes green?

have i been blinded by laser?

[calm bison]

Eventually

[spare quest]

I just had a fun round on valapariso or whatever the map is called

Game must be broken

[frigid cedar]

Does anyone use DLDSR @ 1440p here?

[spare quest]

wtf is DLDSR

[frigid cedar]

lmao

shits way too demanding for me anyway

[spare quest]

[oblique vigil]

It is with great pleasure I announce that I have finally T1'd a Specialist

[spare quest]

i wonder which one

[naive ember]

All of them

[sinful sequoia]

anyone know how to fix the persistant data error

[solid plume]

anybody else consistently getting their gpu killed with this recent update?

getting green screen after 30min of play

[solid plume]

now the game wont even open, guess that problem fixed itself

[reef cedar]

ammo pack + angel + flashbangs

im telling you

[cold stirrup]

bro knows what’s up. med crate too

mackay+casper might be cookin too

C5 casper’s still decent ig

feels slower than infantry tho

[cold stirrup]

could try running the xb1 ver on it thru xbox app if you don’t mind sacrificing graphics

it’s def lower quality graphics, figured that one out through the tip of the spear dozer skin

normally you can clearly read the word espinoza on his chest

it’s blurry for the xb1 ver

[frank stratus]

played it 2 yrs ago, can confirm.

it also ran on like 30 fps unstable.

few lag spikes here and there

[cold stirrup]

adding the med crate as the gadget like i said does work

[solid plume]

I would never dare reenable that malware on my pc

I did get it working again, had to reinstall anticheat and change some app settings to start as admin.

[brittle ruin]

is there a way to always have the bipod deployed?>

[pearl ridge]

I hate how getting revived makes it fold up

Must be something to do with spawn states

Because getting revived is essentially a concentrated respawn, mechanically.

[vital quail]

There is fr something going on with squad leader not switching when they are inactive

[safe nova]

do alot of people still play 2042?

[honest epoch]

yes, i do

[safe nova]

i just wanna be sure before i decide to download it again

[honest epoch]

download and we can play

[naive ember]

More than you can imagine, this is the best ever fps. All the other devs are jealous

[placid pike]

Stopped playing.

Since there's no IRL players going on here.

[naive ember]

I'm sure there's in game players

[fleet badge]

U think it’s all Bots ?

[river shard]

algum br?

[silver latch]

Yes

Certain times of the day it's hard to find a full lobby for certain modes

But that's at like 3am lol

[safe nova]

lol i would never play at that time

[river sable]

report system is super broken, https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/origin/NFROZEEEEEEEEEEE/overview this guy low lvl with high k/d and 70% headshot of m5, still could play for 16 hrs

nice job !

[vital quail]

? It says 5 hours

[glass condor]

Ran it last night and at some point the conquest lobby’s were empty😭

[hazy viper]

😠
Still stuck with the "Please launch your game from your distribution platform" error.
None of the suggested fixes from all over the internet did help yet.

[river sable]

it's very buggy this week, repaired the game also didn't work

[median niche]

does someone wanna team up for a tank or heli squad? Im on PC, just dm me 😉

[severe hill]

Some one want to join me in making a UCAV squad

xbox players

[viscid bone]

Team is aware of this and are working to get it resolved ASAP this week. Sorry for the frustation it's causing you!

[upper gate]

im getting failed to connect to sservers but i have either net any options

[kindred flint]

joined a redacted game in progress and half way through i just started getting rubber banding issues

so not sure being able to connect to a server is a good thing

[naive ember]

Never heard of rubber banding issues at Redacted of all places

[amber kelp]

why would rubber banding be map specific?

[ebon pilot]

after not playing 2042 for a month i lost no skill

honestly i think i played better than before

[vital quail]

Isn't that long of a break

[kindred flint]

i went months

and still managed to get podium finishes (playing support for ez score)

[vocal tusk]

Smaller map = more player concentration in one area = more server strain = more potential issues (Including rubber banding)

If you put a 128P conquest or BT mode intro rotation, Maps like Redacted will have the most issues (As lots of us have seen with FNB modes in the past)

[chilly jacinth]

People don't remember how awful 128p BT was

[naive ember]

Why wouldn't it be?

[vital quail]

Actually think a lot of the squad order system got messed up in the update.. the 1 minute timer for defending doesn't show up and the current order doesn't show up on the left side of screen

[stone cradle]

You're right. There wasn't enough players

Should've been 256

[cold stirrup]

yeah, definitely might have been screwed

[olive juniper]

so many bots in breakthrough

20 k/d lol

[upper gate]

just reinstalled and im still failing to connect to sevrers

[amber kelp]

ah right, i forgot 2042 split its maps into two sizes

[amber kelp]

because rubber banding is an issue caused by your connection to the server rather than by your PC's strain running the map

[zealous loom]

128 in general 💀

[uneven ibex]

Posted

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Be sure to send us your epic gameplay moments from the #Battlefield for a chance to be featured next! 🏆

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Sep 16, 2024, 1:56 AM

▻

[echo yew]

512*

[pale creek]

on each side you mean

[echo yew]

One question

[cold stirrup]

nah, on each squad

[echo yew]

Why does haven have like 5 different angles at the same time

i mean

There is always someone looking at you no matter what

But the visibility is beyond awful?

[pale creek]

tad bit small

[echo yew]

It reminds me alot of azhir cave from mw19

[cold stirrup]

yeah

[echo yew]

BF7 needs proper map design man

stop designing maps for the trailers and start designing them for gameplay

[cold stirrup]

idk i don’t have this problem

i just get pelted by 9 recoilless M5s every time i get an air vehicle

[echo yew]

Personally i get quickscoped by snipers every 25 seconds on haven

…from like 100 meters away

[cold stirrup]

ig play like dozer, mackay, or irish

[echo yew]

No bro the problem is that haven comes up 8/10 times

[cold stirrup]

maybe sundance if you aren’t always getting hit with the recoilless m5’s like i am 😭

[tame crow]

blud is talking about bf7 when we not even had bf6 yet

[echo yew]

2042 is BF6

[cold stirrup]

sob-8 blocks snipers, same with irish’s cover

[tame crow]

no it isnt

it is Battlefield 2042. it is in the name.

[patent pivot]

BF being numbered is considered the military theme

At least

Set in modern time

I think....

[weak falcon]

can anyone help me with the game not launching? it says:
"Please launch the game from your distribution platform. If the issue persist, please repair your game and try again."

I am launching via steam?

[echo yew]

Play something else

Its a sign

[amber cypress]

click in play

[zealous loom]

Nothing better to play right now

[amber cypress]

deve ser

[echo yew]

Touch grass then

FPS Games suck

[zealous loom]

What’s that

[echo yew]

Idk

[zealous loom]

Grass?

Tf

Normally I’d play CoD but yikes

[amber cypress]

@zealous loom your is br?

[zealous loom]

What do you mean

[amber cypress]

vish

words

[tame crow]

not all of us are waiting for bf7

[zealous loom]

2042 ain’t bad

[echo yew]

Its not bad

its just a strange experience to play

[zealous loom]

I’m enjoying it

[zealous loom]

[dense nexus]

I am pretty sure 128v128 would work if maps had poi scattered around like that ac 130 trailer in bf3/bf4 or a levolution that halved the map so as so vehicles would have to go around the central point...

[echo yew]

I think what i feel while playing the game is an emotion that resembles enjoyment, thats what i can say

[pale creek]

but bf5 is ww2 and bf4 and 3 are modern

[tame crow]

2042 is not toliet water cope rn

[echo yew]

It’s better than mw3 for sure

Then again

[cold stirrup]

my camera is below the ground in vehicles looking at nothing, how tf i fix this aside from passenger seats, that also barely helps bruh 😭

[tame crow]

is that really a boast tho

[zealous loom]

Yes

Fact

[echo yew]

Worst game of all time vs the worst battlefield

[cold stirrup]

hardline mp

[echo yew]

cod is just objectively bad methinks

[tame crow]

mw3 worst game of all time.... i mean it is bad but i wont go that far

[patent pivot]

Kind of weird they used numeral

[tame crow]

there are worse games believe me

[zealous loom]

CoD matches being rigged

[echo yew]

idk man i uninstalled after losing 329 matches in a row against the very obviously rigged matchmaking

[amber cypress]

cod is ruim

[echo yew]

i did not get one win since season 1 back in….. december 2023

[amber cypress]

bf is melhor

[echo yew]

Cod has done one good thing since 2012 and its dmz

but anyway

[cold stirrup]

2015, BO3

[echo yew]

Are we calling the next game BF6 or BF7 im confused

[pale creek]

mw3 is a good game

[cold stirrup]

no

[echo yew]

the 2011 one? Yes

[pale creek]

the only bad part is the campaign and if we are comparing it to 2042 2042 doesnt even have one

[echo yew]

the 2023 one? I actually think launch day 2042 was better

[pale creek]

thats not true

how

[echo yew]

My brother in christ they’re charging 70 dollars for overtuned matchmaking and slide cancelling

[pale creek]

nto as bad as 2042 onlaunch

60 dollar for buggy game with like 20 weapons

and shitty maps

atleast mw3 got alot of content

[echo yew]

okay it’s true, launch 2042 was hysterical and im being theatrical

[echo yew]

Most of it is unusable though

there’s 3 viable guns and they’re the…. Advanced warfare ones kekw shg

anyway

Is it bf6 or bf7

[zealous loom]

Hard to enjoy any fun in MWIII when you face Iridescent players every match in pubs

[echo yew]

i went 7.0 one day in december 2023 and the matchmaking is still mad at me for that, i had to uninstall cause i was consistently playing against 2.5-3.0 kd players as a 1.35 kd

[cold stirrup]

jesus

[echo yew]

also they made the f2000 meta... lol, lmao

[zealous loom]

If you’re in any way above average, you’re royally fucked so the bots can have fun and spend more money on skins

[echo yew]

a 3d printed 9mm conversion of it...

be serious lmao

[cold stirrup]

playing mackay as a knife wielding lunatic rn this is chaos

[tame crow]

bro the last bf numbered that way was BFV..... we are not at BF7. why are you struggling to understand this? lmao

[echo yew]

why are you upset

[tame crow]

if they do go a numbered route like that it will be BF6

[echo yew]

you could have said bf6 and ended the conversation there

[tame crow]

not upset just laughing at how you can't work it out

[echo yew]

understandable

[tame crow]

BF6 or BFVI

or maybe they ditch that from now on. who knows.

[cold stirrup]

haven/discarded look like the 2 best maps for this tomfoolery, you can’t do it on redacted

you get gunned down like instantly

[weak falcon]

if we are unable to play the event because of this issue, are you guys going to help compensate us by giving us the helicopter or what? because this is like incredible frustrating -.-

[void lotus]

Is this game dead? I downloaded it on console and was the only one in a server for both 64 and 128 conquest

[patent pivot]

At the cost of overall quality

[cold stirrup]

you can play other gamemodes to get it

i ran like 15 solo/co-op (against the A.I.) matches of conquest and got it.

[pseudo gust]

First game, first clip https://medal.tv/games/battlefield-2042/clips/iGA6fcql1UzNwrj-E

[tender rock]

cooked

[tender rock]

you might be cooked

but

that was a good shot

[vocal tusk]

It didn't for the last 6 or so maps/seasons. The only post release map that has different sizes is exposure, and even hourglass remake is the same size on 64/128 modes now.

[uneven ibex]

Quoted @BattlefieldComm

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

Hotfix #8.1.0.1 is now live for PC platforms on #Battlefield2042 and comes in at around 500mb.

A restart of your game may be to pick up this latest update.

Stay tuned for any further updates regarding this issue. 🫡

𝕏 · Sep 16, 2024, 8:28 AM

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

A fix for the issue where a small number of PC players are experiencing an error when attempting to load #Battlefield2042 is on the way!

The team is working hard to get Hotfix #8.1.0.1 rolled out on Monday, 16th at 08:00 UTC for PC players.

Stay tuned for further updates.

𝕏 · Sep 12, 2024, 3:29 PM

[harsh birch]

Gg

[severe urchin]

Anyone on

[pearl ridge]

I think the length of flares should be based on how evasive the aircraft is

Nightbirds get the shortest amount, while big fat Condors get the longest

Stealth choppers also have it super short because they spend most of their time immune to missiles anyway

[tawny carbon]

Bro still angry against aircrafts

[pearl ridge]

I will be as long as they continue to get preferential treatment from the devs

[tawny carbon]

They nerfed lil bird so much. It barely do anything to the people

Having shorter flares means more hiding away from players

[vocal tusk]

Flares aren't really the issue.

Its a systematic issue with how the gameplay loop around.

• Lock-ons
• Target acquisition
• Flaring mechanics at, during and after lock-on
• Lock-on missile projectile velocity
• Damage and affect of lock-on missiles
• Poorly designed gadgets and specialists relating to spotting/lock-ons

Air vehicles in this game are pretty trash, cos there are dozens of combos of things that can take them out

That and most of the maps arent designed in a way that allows for a decent air to ground/Ground to air engagements, even if those mechanics were solid

[tawny carbon]

The insane amount of rss you have in game to combat aircraft is insane. Way more than every other past BF game

[vocal tusk]

rss, im not aware of this term

[tawny carbon]

Anything you can use, like lis, soflam, AA, wildcat post insane buff, ect…

They done more thing to buff AA overall compared to a heli got shafted to the ground.

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, not even counting the fact that a single Rao can keep most of the air in a map continuously locked on and targeteable buy any launcher. 😄

Why they even bothered adding the soflam or tracer dart, when that is a thing in the game ill never know

[chilly lichen]

anyone else hate the uh-60 update

it just feels lame and boring compared to the old transport helo

[vocal tusk]

Its an actual transport heli, so no, I like it

[tawny carbon]

Plus rao can counter the stealth heli. Unless you use lis to insta kill it, if not take it out of stealth by dmg it, same with wildcat. One bullet hit and it’s out of stealth.

As soon stealth heli is out of the stealth mechanic, it’s vulnerable asf

Everyone insta lock on and kill it. It’s wild to experience. Even from spawn, you just insta dead

[chilly jacinth]

No

[vocal tusk]

Yeah you have to be insanely good, or have an incredibly incompetent team against you to do well in a heli.

[tawny carbon]

One thing still upsets me to this day is the massive buff they did to wildcat

The range that it have aka 700m is still unbelievable

On portal maps. Is 80-100% map coverage. 2042 maps is almost 50% ish map coverage. Can’t do shit when it out in the field. Get locked on about a country away, universe away from you

AA bullets have almost to no dmg drop of is wild also for wildcat

Tried pre and post buffed wildcat. Post buff makes me feel like I’m handicapped

[pearl ridge]

If it was so fucking easy why doesn’t everyone do it

You’re out here claiming the soflam is overpowered but it actually relies on the single rarest commodity in this game: actual fucking teamwork

Oh and people who actually look up. Which is somehow rarer.

[tawny carbon]

People don’t always want to 24/7 main AA or anything. People mind their own business majority of the time

[pearl ridge]

The whole point of the soflam is that it turns every rocket into AA

And they won’t even do that

[tawny carbon]

The tools is there clearly. Not everyone wanna run a engineer

[pearl ridge]

Huge chunks of any team are engineers

[tawny carbon]

Speaking of soflam. Most people know the trick

[pearl ridge]

Half of them seem to only play for the goddamn stupid sentry gun that never works

[tawny carbon]

Of 2 hitting everything

[tawny carbon]

Cod bro. People is used to playing cod/warzone

[pearl ridge]

UH-60 pilots are. So bad.

The guns are amazing but oh my god none of them know how to stop crashing it

I’m not even a good heli pilot at all but I can keep the damn thing in the air at least.

[naive ember]

[mental delta]

https://tenor.com/view/cbt-helicopter-spin-helicopter-spin-gif-27236721

One of BF2042 biggest misses in terms of content at launch was the lack of light air transport vehicles

Modernized UH-60 or UH-1Y would have been way better than a 6 seats aircraft like Hind and Condor

[pearl ridge]

Thing is I actually do like the big ones

The problem is with the hind specifically and how it’s way too agile for its size while the condor lumbers about awkwardly

[vocal tusk]

Literally no one uses the soflam, how could it be overpowered, and who even said it was?

[pearl ridge]

You did.

[vocal tusk]

Why would anyone use it, when they can have it, and more with Rao

No I didnt, I said Rao is

[pearl ridge]

Because Rao’s hack doesn’t mark targets and has not done so in like a year

[vocal tusk]

What, yes he does?

[tawny carbon]

Soflam can be op if used correctly

People just don’t know the combo/trick

I just never done it because I need a second person. Solo gamer here

[chilly jacinth]

Ye the huge trick of actual teamwork

wild trick

[tawny carbon]

Ummm 🤔 yes

But there is a hidden combo that can delete any vehicle out there. But the sad part still requires team work

[dense stirrup]

Is there like a better and quicker way to delete vehicles? I just go the engi guy with 1+ rockets, rpg, anti tank grenade and underbarrel ap round so I can shoot at anything I find that moves other than planes and fast helis

[reef cedar]

landmines could work depending on the map

and mode

[reef cedar]

huh?

[dense stirrup]

I can never get a car/tank to go over them :(

[safe nova]

did an update come out?

[still vault]

yes

[reef cedar]

real

[naive ember]

Fake

[safe nova]

[tawny carbon]

Yes, 2 hit any vehicle in the game. But it requires teamwork with soflam

[dense stirrup]

you can 2 hit a tank?

[reef cedar]

does it include the javelin

[tawny carbon]

He gets it

[tawny carbon]

Anything

[dense stirrup]

so soflam a target then have someone javelin it?

[reef cedar]

mhm

thats pretty rad

[dense stirrup]

how much dmg does the javelin even do? It didn't do much when I was using it

I mean it did decent, but it wasn't giving me enough dmg to 2 shot things

[pearl ridge]

The javelin gets a huge damage boost when hitting marked targets

[dense stirrup]

lmao

[vocal tusk]

Do you still not get assists when using the soflam, other than that useless 10 points of XP?

[modest mortar]

Whats up with the Servers? cant play since yesterday its says unable to connect to server. Anyone else got this issue?

[pearl ridge]

Nope.

It's absolutely absurd. You get more for just clicking a button than you do for sacrificing your own time and safety to mark targets

[hearty kiln]

Soflam was crazy back when gadgets were universal, one recon w spawn beacon and soflam and then 1-3 angels with m5s lol

[tawny carbon]

About 80-90. But no matter what guarantees 2 hit

[tawny carbon]

Set for health pools above 140-180ish for vehicles which is condor and hind

But still wiping a lot of vehicles off the floor

[nimble arch]

All the uh-60 chaos servers are empty for me and theres no way for me to get the rewards

Any way to get it?

[pseudo gust]

Thx

[vocal tusk]

Yeah some of the scoring in this game is honestly weird. Like guide and assist a rocket for 10xp, but place down a blasco device and you get 15xp for every player in the radius, then also score and assist XP if one of those players gets killed. Bizarre

[modest mortar]

?

[chilly jacinth]

?

[naive ember]

?

[modest mortar]

cant connect to servers since yesterday, is anyone having the same issue?

[naive ember]

NA console is good

[safe nova]

i was able to connect im on PC (NA)

[cold stirrup]

normal modes work too

[pearl ridge]

Those servers are crap anyway. The UH-60 is in no way a suitable replacement for a proper gunship when trying to break an actual defence line

[cold stirrup]

i did 14 matches of AI conquest then a match of AI breakthrough to get it because I had that problem too

[cold stirrup]

yeah it’s pretty cheeks ngl

[cold stirrup]

You get 1 tapped by recoilless M5’s anywhere below half health, it’s big as shit, and unlike the MV-38 which also has that problem, it’s also slow and has no firepower

Even using it on haven I got shot down like 6 times with it

[nimble arch]

Does server browser count? 😭

[cold stirrup]

like portal?

last time I saw server browser in a battlefield game was BF4 😭

[cold stirrup]

it’s good for squad transport, but consider the following vehicles for that: LATV4, MD540, EBAA, LCAA, MAV, EBLC, CAV, and either side’s gunship or tank

all of which are better than the Blackhawk

[pearl ridge]

It's a good way to shit on rooftop campers. Those side guns are no joke.

[cold stirrup]

fair ass point.

if you’re playing recon, I don’t really about high up spawn beacons as long as you’re not being a boring ass sniper. You can do the classic C5 Casper drone tactic which is funny.

or run Blasco and help people/vehicles by objective

[next isle]

https://www.ign.com/articles/exclusive-first-battlefield-concept-art-revealed-vince-zampella

[cold stirrup]

even Rao is a lot better actually doing shit than just boring ass sniping.

[next isle]

Specialists are also out this time around. "So I wasn't there for 2042. I don't know what the rationale was, but for me, it's like the team tried something new. You have to applaud that effort. Not everybody liked it, but you got to try things. It didn't work. It didn't fit. Specialist will not be coming back. So classes are kind of at the core of Battlefield, and we're going back to that," Zampella says.

[vocal tusk]

Holy article full of W's

"Yeah, the 128 player, did it make it more fun? Like...doing the number for the sake of the number doesn't make any sense. We're testing everything around what's the most fun. So like you said, the maps, once they get to a certain scale, become different. It's a different play space, and I think you have to design around that. So we are designing something that is more akin to previous Battlefields,"

"I'd rather have nice, dense, really nice, well-designed play spaces. Some of them are really good. I can't wait for you to see some of them."

[remote kiln]

nothing surprising, thankfully

zampella actually understands this franchise

[vocal tusk]

Bring back the CTE! 😄

It's unclear when the next Battlefield will release, but there are signs that EA is ramping up for 2025, having entered full production earlier this year. According to Zampella, EA is "play testing the game every week" and plans to launch a community program next year, though it's unclear if it's a closed beta or something else.

"We have a program that we're going to announce next year around getting more community in, because that's kind of the core of what we have to do — get the community back on our side, get that trust back," he says. "So I think we're in a really good place. Is it challenging? Of course, but it wouldn't be fun if it wasn't."

[full burrow]

does that mean no 128 players or does that mean if they do 128 they just wont be dogshit?

[vocal tusk]

Hopefully the former, or do as they do in portal and make core modes 64, but allow custom games with more is probably the best case scenario

[remote kiln]

no 128

[calm bison]

They’re doing 64!

[remote kiln]

there's nothing really surprising in this article

128 was dead and we had unofficial confirmation for a while now

[full burrow]

nice

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, basically no maps made for 128 since Exposure

All the way back in S1

[next isle]

https://tenor.com/view/lfg-lets-goo-gif-25423985

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

Vince Zampella sat down with @​IGN to discuss the future of #Battlefield, confirms a modern setting, and teases a community testing program. Read the full interview. 👇

https://www.ign.com/articles/exclusive-first-battlefield-concept-art-revealed-vince-zampella

𝕏 · Sep 16, 2024, 7:15 PM

[vocal tusk]

Its good that interviews like this are bein done now, and setting some official expectations tho

[full burrow]

I mean I said from the start 128 was a pointless dicksize brag, brought on by panic cos they COD game that was coming out increased their ground warfore to 48 players and some shellfishIQ suit was worried about loosing some customers

[remote kiln]

it was always just a marketing gimmick

thankfully zampella has his head screwed on and ignored everyone trying to pretend it was good to do

[pine roost]

is that, battlefield news?

[cold stirrup]

yes

[pine roost]

really keen to see how this goes with vince at the helm

[somber storm]

battle royale confirmed

[remote kiln]

why are you surprised

[vocal tusk]

This article kinda answers a lot of questions and removes most worries I had about the next game. Its mostly what I/others expected to hear...but its good to actually hear it

[remote kiln]

they literally hired the creator of warzone

[vocal tusk]

Im not seeing anything about BR? Am I blind? 😄

[pine roost]

Appreciate what he had to say about 128 and specialists. just a no nonsense response

didn't see anything about a br either

this community involvement plan sounds good though. Always missed the testing environments

[remote kiln]

we'll have no confirmation but it's definitely happening Bryon beede is not hired as a GM unless they're doing a BR

[pine roost]

although I think we learned from 2042's tests that lots of people struggle with ndas lol

[pearl ridge]

Modern settings are so fucking boring

[pine roost]

Sure it's done a lot, but I do prefer them over historical settings

[pearl ridge]

Also is this like round three of the devs teasing 2143 just to go and do something completely different

[pine roost]

wait i've just noticed there's a separate role for ripple effect staff

[pearl ridge]

They're openly setting up the EU vs PAC conflict and everything

[vocal tusk]

Well hiring a GM from elsewhere can mean many things, not merely that they are doing a BR.

Dude was previously a lead/manager of the live service and road map for COD so may have been brought on board to assist on those fronts. The live service has not been amazing by any stretch on the last 2 games.

[quiet shell]

Modern setting
Classes
No 128
Smaller maps
We're so fucking BACK

[cold stirrup]

can’t argue that

[amber kelp]

In 2042 it is more likely a continuity thing than a teaser

[remote kiln]

he was the architect behind warzone, not just the lead manager, it wouldn't have existed without him

there is going to be a battle royale of some sort it's more or less inevitable

[pearl ridge]

Also I always see people going "oooh they should remake BF4" no go fuck yourselves why don't they remake 2142 huh

Something actually old enough to warrant such a thing

[remote kiln]

now that's probably not a you jump from a sky version

but it'll be an amalgamation

[vocal tusk]

I dunno, I have nothing against them doing a BR. I just don't see it as defitive proof of it happening.

[pearl ridge]

Every attempt they have made at including a BR has failed instantly

[cold stirrup]

like BF4 was my first battlefield game, and I think seeing their older games getting a good remaster first would be better because new people can experience it without retro consoles

[amber kelp]

where is this? This looks like Europe

[pine roost]

doing multiplayer remakes never really made sense to me. Doubt it would actually please anyone if it did happen

[vocal tusk]

Firestorm was great, 10x the mode hazard zone was, but got zero support. Was literally sent out to die

[next isle]

Could it be Rio?

[amber kelp]

if the game in question is super old then its a great way to boost a population and improve the tech involved. (or if you are activision, to shove mtx into an old game)

[vocal tusk]

It looks like northern Europe

[full burrow]

did they say anything about going to back to actuall expansions vs pathetic live service bullshit excuse to do nothing but make skins

[pearl ridge]

Do you want new maps to become unplayable within months

[amber kelp]

Idk.
I want to say its the balkans, everything has been pointing to that, but I cant pinpoint a city that looks like it.

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, it looks like it could be a city in Croatia or Romania 😁

[remote kiln]

if you mean premium it's definitely not returning

[full burrow]

kinda sucks, but im happy to hear alternatives

[remote kiln]

there isn't an alternative to the 2042 model

it is a matter of fact that premium is how you destine a game to die

[tawny carbon]

2042 model is really good imo

[amber kelp]

Northern Croatia might be it.

[full burrow]

not rly, could always just organise it differently, make the 1st xpac included for all as 3rd comes out ect, those who pay simply access it first ect

[amber kelp]

They were looking for Croat VAs right?

[full burrow]

nothing wrong with people paying for quality content

[remote kiln]

nobody's paying $60 for dlc expansions anymore

[amber kelp]

id do it.

[remote kiln]

it's a dead business model for a multiplayer shooter

[next isle]

copium?

[vocal tusk]

Markarska, Croatia for reference

[full burrow]

dlc is small, expansion is big hence why I use expansion not dlc

[stone cradle]

aka "I got dragged into this shit, I need to make the fans happy"

[full burrow]

if its worth the money its worth it

[tawny carbon]

Old days it was good. Not anymore

[remote kiln]

yeah you and everyone else here are core battlefield players, outside here, that falls flat

[full burrow]

its not just not worth it cos its "extra content" its the size and quality of the content that matters

[pearl ridge]

So are they going to include more factions than just fucking America and Russia this time

[remote kiln]

there is an echo chamber of people here who will tell you premium is better, it's just not the case

[pearl ridge]

Because I cannot take Russia seriously as an actual threat

[full burrow]

and again, paying to keep a game continually adding stuff for years to come makes sense

[tawny carbon]

Now you have live service as the business model. It also helps them rack up a lot of money. Plus the store

[remote kiln]

but that's not what happened

the premium maps were made before battlefield 3 and 4 launched

[full burrow]

so make it happen?

[stone cradle]

Russia is supposedly not even featuring in next game

[remote kiln]

make what happen?

[stone cradle]

But it might be a PMC instead

[full burrow]

your saying, they did it poorly before so dont try again

[severe hill]

So no kh101 missiles

[amber kelp]

people are sick and tired of the standard live service, even just premium is a breath of fresh air.
I dont think theyll do it, but I really doubt theyd be crucified for it

[full burrow]

do it in a better way then

[vocal tusk]

Bf1 had a good premium system. As long as one squad mate had it, all members could play the content.

[dawn cedar]

they wont do it because it segments the playerbase

[full burrow]

seee, now that is a solution

[remote kiln]

no I'm saying it's a ass business model, antiquated, and this franchise needs to attract players who aren't hardcore to every single thing game for the franchise to survive

[severe hill]

Premium with the rise in prices will not be good

[amber kelp]

I can still play DLC for battlefield 4, BF1 had a weekly free rotator and let it carry over with squadmates, this is a solved problem.

[zealous loom]

I’ve been out of the BF loop for a while, but that read sound very promising.

[amber kelp]

mmm yeah thats a good point actually

[vocal tusk]

I doubt premium will return, but the content amount (Maps and weapons) in the next game needs to be better

[full burrow]

its ass business model if you make it ass

[tawny carbon]

Player stand point is nice. Not business standpoint. You give people free access if they play with you. Not making much money for devs

[summer lake]

The content wouldn’t change, it would just mean it’s more hidden behind paywalls, look at payday 3

[amber kelp]

EA did not ditch premium "for the playerbase", they did it to make more money (or try to atleast)

[remote kiln]

you might want to pay $60/70 for dlcs, you're a minority

[full burrow]

if you dont want to pay then dont, problem solved, at least I would get real new content

[tawny carbon]

It’s making them a lot of bank

[vocal tusk]

I'd wager they made more money on skins sales in 2042 than premium sales from bf4

[stone cradle]

Why the hell are you guys arguing about the pricing model, it will obviously be live service again

[remote kiln]

pay what, the game isn't out lol

[tropic cliff]

COD HQ

[stone cradle]

they literally hired the Warzone creator, come on lol

[amber kelp]

for apex probably. I really doubt 2042 is making bank

[severe hill]

I rather the live service so that I can play the DlC's without praying that the 5 percent remaining player base 6 years after release has the premium.

[zealous loom]

Makes me want to cancel my BO6 preorder

[full burrow]

sorry I didnt specify hypothetically speaking when we are clearly talking about possibilities for the next itme that obviously isnt out yet

[remote kiln]

yeah good luck convincing a game that doesn't exist that they need to pay $70 to access the game and oh by the way premium is another $60 so $130 for the game effectively is a fantastic way for a game to die before it launches

[amber kelp]

Oh obviously. It more about the principle of it.
Theyll make it live service so the minority of whales with no self control can outpay the rest of the playerbase

[vocal tusk]

End of the day, I don't care too much what they do. I just want a good game we can all play for years.

[tawny carbon]

4-5 skins is about the price for all dlc map packs. I can tell an average person buys way more than that

[amber kelp]

I can tell an average person buys way more than that
lmao

[stone cradle]

I'd rather have nice, dense, really nice, well-designed play spaces.

[tawny carbon]

Also take in account the premium for the Battlepass

[stone cradle]

Please to dear God no emphasis on meatgrinders

if that's what he means then I won't buy it

[amber kelp]

he is saying this in comparison to 2042 maps.
I do hope there is a meatgrinder map at launch tho.

[full burrow]

live service just means copied and pasted containers again 3 times a year

[remote kiln]

also why are people pretending like you can still play dlc maps today you only decide what the servers want you lol

final stand, all those maps are dead

[amber kelp]

because I can play dlc maps today.

Final stand are you high?

[stone cradle]

If he means like BF3/BF4 urban maps then yes please, thank god they finally learnt that people actually love those kind of maps

[vocal tusk]

A meat grinder map is great to have, more important is the return of browser and server admin/player tools like map voting, team swapping, etc.

[amber kelp]

Maybe its platform specific but I have no issues with this on bf4.
hell i can still play dlc maps in battlefield 1942

[remote kiln]

(you) aren't going to get a game going, playing doesn't mean an actual server

[amber kelp]

I can play full dlc maps today

[remote kiln]

I didn't say you couldnt

[stone cradle]

persistent servers pleaseeee

[remote kiln]

I said you play what the server owners want you to

so the other dlc maps die

[full burrow]

what is server owners selected their maps based on what players like

[amber kelp]

yeah server owners dont rotate trash and the players dont vote it, thats true for base game maps as well.

[full burrow]

and maps that dont get used are simply less popular maps

[amber kelp]

^

[remote kiln]

no the main reason is probably half the players who want to play didn't pay for premium to begin with and can't play the damn content lol

[amber kelp]

projecting

[remote kiln]

it's not projection if dice said so themselves, so go figure

[amber kelp]

legit projecting. There are servers that have all map rotations and these ones dont get voted for

[amber kelp]

when justifying their new model?

[remote kiln]

no that's just what they said eons ago when 4 was still in development

yes surprise a game that's a decade old like 3 and 4 is played by it's loyal players, that doesn't change that a massive amount of players didn't get to play them for years to begin with cause they didn't buy premium and moved on

[amber kelp]

cause they didn't buy premium and moved on
they chose not to buy it. They didnt "not get to play it". Thats like saying I "didnt get to play bf4" cause it wasnt f2p

[remote kiln]

no, it's not lol

[amber kelp]

its exactly the same

[remote kiln]

"they chose not to buy it" is the damn problem

[amber kelp]

it isnt

people who want more bf4 bought more bf4, and there were plenty of times when the dlcs were ludicrously cheap if not free

[remote kiln]

yes because it was close to death, again, doesn't change anything

[amber kelp]

most bf4 servers at the moment are mixed servers. Same with bf1. We can play these right now, this isnt hypothetical

[remote kiln]

people who bought premium are not special and are not entitled to special treatment

[karmic egret]

Wooooo let's go next battlefield won't have specialists

[amber kelp]

they bought a product, deco.

[remote kiln]

ok? lol

[amber kelp]

thats not special treatment thats a transaction

[hoary hound]

Where tf can I squad/meet bf1 players

[amber kelp]

"oh people who bought bf4 dont deserve special treatment, why cant I play it for free"

[remote kiln]

they are literally nothing alike

[amber kelp]

it is identical rationale

[remote kiln]

don't pretend for a second that a game that launched, with staggered dlcs, is somehow equivalent to that

[amber kelp]

it is

[remote kiln]

right

[amber kelp]

it is perfectly equivalent

you are conflating buying a product to exclusion.

[zealous loom]

I wonder if the next BF will have AI

[remote kiln]

I'm sure battle packs were aswell then because "those guns were there earlier"

[amber kelp]

nah battlepacks suck.

[remote kiln]

don't justify bad arguments because you prefer the thing

[shell ermine]

Hope not, will not play if it does

[stone cradle]

AI? as in chatgpt? Great idea

[surreal portal]

Battle packs do suck

[amber kelp]

it is identical logic, deco.

[zealous loom]

Hopefully it’s popular enough to not need it

[remote kiln]

then so are battle packs

but you don't seem to like that

[shell ermine]

Wish it wasn't modern day though

Modern day is so boring

[amber kelp]

battlepacks suck because it is in game gambling and you cant pick what you want.

[remote kiln]

it's identical logic

remember

[shell ermine]

Alt history Cold War Gone Hot in the late 60s would've been cool

[surreal portal]

Make it Vietnam war so I can sit in a bush and it’s historically accurate

[amber kelp]

ah I see so youve double down to being obtuse. Broken man

[remote kiln]

the point is you don't get to pick and choose

[amber kelp]

...
wait youre conflating it with the server owners?

[remote kiln]

conflating what?

[amber kelp]

are you comparing the random nature of battlepacks to the server owners selecting specific maps?

[remote kiln]

no

[shell ermine]

Server browser and rentable servers back would be fantastic

[remote kiln]

I'm just using your line of reasoning that's all, which is valid in this context to highlight it's a bad argument

[granite island]

Concept arts looks fire ngl

[amber kelp]

then what does "you dont get to pick and choose" mean?
Like legit I think theres just been a breakdown in communication

[zealous loom]

[remote kiln]

see above

[amber kelp]

?????

[granite island]

Sacrifice the tornadoes

[dapper river]

Vince is da GOAT, he won't disappoint

[granite island]

For forest fires

Intresting

[surreal portal]

The man is speaking in riddles

[oblique vigil]

[remote kiln]

you don't get to pick and choose bad arguments, because it suits your particular narrative, "it's identical logic" if is the case also applies to battle packs, because it's the same context of argumentation, be neutral, is the point

because it's a bad argument from the beginning

[surreal portal]

The concept art looks like it’s depicting Europe. How I know this? The houses are close together.

[shell ermine]

I don't know why they stopped doing server rentals. $60 for 3 months, they were making bank for what had to be a negligible additional cost

[remote kiln]

ehh

well they were for a time but they never increased costs

whether they are today, who knows

[dapper night]

Heard the news, some are info made me relief like return to Classes (thank heavens) and return to 64 players

[amber kelp]

if is the case also applies to battle packs
but the issue with battlepacks is a different root problem. The issue with them is that it is in game gambling, which buying bf4 and bf4 premium are not.

so, no, your reversal doesn't work.

Deco, you are out of touch

[remote kiln]

different root problem
as are with launches, and the premium model, but you seem perfectly fine to tie them together, when they are nothing alike

[shell ermine]

The servers players could rent in BF3, BF4, and BF1 were just pulled off the line virtual servers.

[remote kiln]

I'm glad you're understanding the issue

[amber kelp]

explain how the root problem is different?

[echo yew]

Seems we’re good so far from what we’re reading?

[amber kelp]

illuminate me

[surreal portal]

BF1 had rentable servers?

Only Pc?

[amber kelp]

2042 also seemed good. Im not getting hyped till the beta is in my damn hands

[remote kiln]

because you're paying for access to a game that exists, premium was a pre purchase because the game content didn't exist, you were not buying a product, you were buying something in the promise of gaining access to content

[cold stirrup]

valid

[remote kiln]

they're not the same thing

[shell ermine]

BF3, BF4, BFH, and BF1 all had rentable virtual servers on all platforms

[amber kelp]

you can pre order bf4 as well.

[remote kiln]

and how is that at all affiliated with the premium discussion

[surreal portal]

I understand all the other titles but I have never seen it on Bf1, that’s wild

[remote kiln]

i swear if you continue this whataboutism again then there's no point continuing

[amber kelp]

because the difference, according to you is, and I quote

you were buying something in the promise of gaining access to content

which is what preordering a game is

theres no whataboutism youre just reaching

[remote kiln]

this about dlc lol

not about if a game exists

[surreal portal]

What about we all got along

[remote kiln]

nobody mentioned preordering

[amber kelp]

thats what premium is deco. You preorder 4-5 dlcs

you were buying something in the promise of gaining access to content

[remote kiln]

there's no discussion here, you are somehow correlating preordering a game, that's already out, to a discussion about the premium model

and no "they are alike because it's a promise" doesn't count either

you can refund a preorder, you cannot refund, buying premium

[dapper night]

There are still questions that they haven't answered yet (since it's reserved for the full reveal and gameplay reveal) like will the Vehicle Spawns/Gameplay/Physics works similar to BF3/4, where the vehicles are depended on what map are you playing meaning not all maps have all the vehicles that you can spawn and it's gameplay and physics will play similar to BF3/4 especially the Heli and Jets with the 313 turn rate mechanic?. Or the Vehicle Spawn will be similar to BF 2042 where every maps lets you spawn every vehicle that you wanted (I know some maps doesn't let you have jets but "most maps" let you spawn every vehicle) and it's physics and gameplay will be similar to BF 2042?

I hope the Vehicle Spawn will be similar to BF3/4 where it depends on the map you are playing and you gain extra vehicles for capping a certain flag on some maps

Same goes for the gameplay and physics especially the Heli and Jets

[amber kelp]

Fair. You should be able too, at least until the 1st dlc comes out.
That said, this detail does not derail the main point nor does it make the comparison invalid. At the end of the day you are still buying this promise of future stuff.

and, once that stuff is out, then its just a straight "i want this, I see everything here, Im going to buy it". Fairly straight forward.

[remote kiln]

yeah maybe 2 years after, that's easy to say in hindsight some 8 years on

[rose fiber]

Imo premium from BF3-BF1 gave you great value. 4 or 5 dlcs with 4 maps each. The only problem was that standard edition stayed at like 10 maps I think

[echo yew]

Ight, all along the hopium train

[stone cradle]

who else thinks they'll announce the BR with a small section at the end of a blogpost next year with the trailer?

[echo yew]

Yes

[stone cradle]

Probably want to retain as much as the goodwill as possible right now

[amber kelp]

standard edition got the extra french maps at one point

plus the free rotator

[echo yew]

I hope the BR goes well but i really dont care for it man

Warzone sucks

whats this going to bring

[stone cradle]

All we have going off is henderson's article.

[echo yew]

Is it 2025 or 2026

[amber kelp]

Ima be real, Im not booting up BF to play a battle royale. I have many much better options if I want to do that. A battlefield BR is not bringing any value to the customer

[rose fiber]

For which title? I only remember BF4 getting 3 free maps post premium dlcs

[desert condor]

@uk-deluxe

[amber kelp]

BF1 got the two extra french maps

[stone cradle]

25 is the most likely I feel

[rose fiber]

Ah

[amber kelp]

fuck we were feasting with bf1 dlc.

[echo yew]

CoD is kind of fucked for 2025 but GTA 6 is a bit of a concern no?

[rose fiber]

I think that standard edition BF game should have min of 10 maps at launch and min of 20 maps at the end

[amber kelp]

if it even comes out in 2025. But idk, GTA 6 probably isnt launching on PC and is a very different genre.

[zealous loom]

What do ya mean by concern

[echo yew]

people seem to imply that GTA 6 launching will make all other games flop

[amber kelp]

only if they are releasing the exact same weekend.

[echo yew]

cause “everyone” will be playing gta 6

For the record, not me

[vocal tusk]

Ill play the shit out of both GTA6 and a new BF game

[dapper night]

I also wonder about the Class structure whether they will go for BF3/4 classes: Medic, Support, Engineer and Recon or BF1/5/2042 with Assault, Support, Medic, Recon, and Pilot (BF1 only had this)

[rose fiber]

My guess, all time peak will be somewhere near the one of PUBG (3,2mil on Steam) and then it'll eventually drop to somewhere GTA V is now

[stone cradle]

that comes with the assumption that everyone will play exclusively only GTA 6 for months

when that's totally incorrect

[vocal tusk]

Even BF4 and GTA V released pretty close to each other, no?

[stone cradle]

not to mention it won't be f2p

[echo yew]

ikr but there’s a small group of annoying people which i hope EA and Dice don’t listen to who are claiming “GTA 6 will be the only thing people play”

[amber kelp]

theyll actually only play gta 6 for 3 years and the gaming market will crash and the economy will suffer and the peoples republic of china will collapse and

[echo yew]

gta also has alot of expectations, so its gonna underwhelm regardless

[stone cradle]

BFV and RDR2 too

[zealous loom]

Bought an Xbox just for GTA VI

[tender folio]

lmao

[rose fiber]

Wouldn't be surprised if it's Cyberpunk allover again

[dapper night]

Was RDR2 that huge compared to GTA? I still feel like GTA is still their top dog for me at least