battlefield-2042

[rare warren]

Is there anyone well-know about fixing black screen on launching BF2042 pls dm me

[manic mango]

Pc or console

Cause if pc u got a graphics card issue

[rare warren]

PC @manic mango

With steam

I already tired update my graphics card driver to newest one btw is not effect on black screen unfortunately

[manic mango]

Go to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\EA and run the EA Updater file as administrator. Wait for the update to complete at the command prompt. Done. This 100% fixes the black screen.

@rare warren also I see your a fan of Lucy from cyberpunk

[rare warren]

[rare warren]

I already tried that method yesterday the updater said that I have already newest AE app and don't need to update and closed automatically after 5 sec

[manic mango]

I plays mostly on xbox

[rare warren]

Oh aight mate

Ffs...dice

[manic mango]

But I have friends that plays on pc

[rare warren]

They has same issue before?

[manic mango]

Yes all the way back to 2023

[rare warren]

Pff...

[manic mango]

It has something to do with textures not fully loading in when you finish a match

[rare warren]

I can't even get in the game since I stuck on launch with black screen

[manic mango]

On Xbox if something like that happens I just un-install the game and re-install

Ull have to dm to show cause u can't upload pictures or videos unless your an admin

[rare warren]

Aight m8

Hold on

[rare warren]

Anyone have one other ideas?

[fair plume]

I'd adapt

[vital quail]

4 minute 64 conquest exposure match. Bruh

Already know the other team had a bunch of bum ass recons on their side

[rare warren]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Battlefield-2042-black-screen-after-launching-the-game/td-p/14001790/jump-to/first-unread-message

[naive ember]

I'm having problems too, just gonna reinstall

[sand violet]

how do i report a hacker?

[naive ember]

In game

[vestal swift]

I play om steam, so whwre do I see my origin if so I can look myself up on battlefield tracker?

[sand violet]

the ea app should be open in your tray

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

Take back Control in the Arkangel Directive event 📅 Aug 27 - Sep 10. Check out this week's featured #Battlefield 2042 modes 👇

📡 Control
🪖 BF1942 Rendezvous
💥 BF2042 Tank Superiority
🚩 #FNB - Seasonal Conquest

𝕏 | 📷1 · Aug 27, 2024, 12:05 PM

[orchid arrow]

Not gameplay related but I have good FPS but with random stutters, is there a setting specifically I should change to try and improve that?

[ruby shard]

Check ur CPU usage and ram usage make sure your not bottlenecking or its sucking the life out of your CPU

[patent pivot]

for me, my GPU utilized way more than CPU

[orchid arrow]

Found the issue, DLSS was the main problem

[rare warren]

Does no one well know about black screen on launch a BF 2042

[warped pulsar]

Those were the dark days

[oblique vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-battlefield2042-call-of-duty-activision-ea-gif-22679078

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

We're pleased to share that #Battlefield1 will receive EA Anticheat on September 24th.

Previously, we extended support to #BattlefieldV, which recently saw 28,000 wrongdoers removed from the game.

This support will ensure that we continue our efforts in protecting play.

Stay tuned for further updates.

Learn more: https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/eaac-and-battlefield

𝕏 · Aug 27, 2024, 5:44 PM

[calm bison]

“Wrongdoers”

[still vault]

What they do is wrong. Seems to fit.

Actually might be the best and most precise word to use.

[naive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[tawny carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/once-a-cheater-always-a-cheater-cheater-unfaithful-paige-hausburg-siesta-key-gif-11387285

[sharp verge]

Or they don't want to say cheaters because it isn't 28,000 cheaters, but a mix mash of other things that may include cheaters.

[still vault]

It's probably just good sentence writing. The word cheat had already been used in a sentence. The practice of avoiding repetition of words within a sentence to prevent sentences from becoming monotonous sentences helps to convey information in a more engaging way for the sentences.

[tawny carbon]

“Anticheat” and “cheat” don’t go together

Maybe 🤔 the wrongful means unlock tool, cheats ect. maybe it’s a versatile word to not specifically say the things.

[jade bay]

Now THIS is riding

wrongdoers is very vague

it could include anything from well cheaters to people that DICE didn’t like

also wrongdoers is a funny term to use

[vestal swift]

oh wow one should not look at ones battlefield tracker data, that was depressing

atleast not when yoyu a apparently fucking useless as i am

[hoary sentinel]

i know someone who might have worse stats, buuut...

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

ah, embed fail?

[vestal swift]

well, i started our like 40 hours ago and its not been a good time, but the other day i had a few games where I had a lot of fun and i also helped or my team was really bad since i was in the top 4 - then i looked at my stats and im in the bottom 8% of almost everything

except in losses, where I am in the top 20% or soemthing

[sharp verge]

well I mean... if you're new then your stats are going to suck.

[vital quail]

There are some people that have 1000+ hours who have stats that are probably worse than yours

[sharp verge]

And even if you suck... it is just a game.

[tawny carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-boys-gif-1023591671975917849

[arctic grove]

is the game great, no. Is it fun? It absolutely can be. That being said, I'm looking forward to the next Battlefield

[hoary sentinel]

again, i know someone who probably has far worse stats with way more hours than 40, but i won't say who

[sharp verge]

I love 2042. The only thing that dampens anything is the "mediocre" gun choices, especially the from I've noticed from the Portal guns.

Other than that... vehicles are fun to customize...

Oh, another gripe... limited destructibility.

[patent pivot]

you? love?

[mental delta]

Ain't we all mate ?

[sharp verge]

is 2042 going to get another season or is seaon 7 the last?

[patent pivot]

End

[narrow oak]

It’s gonna get a 4 week “event” with a free and premium battle pass, so it’s gonna be a shortened season it seems

[orchid tusk]

said who

[jade bay]

Man

Battlefield 2042 players are so bad sometimes

I have less than 70 hours of play and yet I can smoke many of these clowns

[tawny carbon]

People let their new born play the game

[jade bay]

I’m a bit of a glass cannon/kamikaze type player though

Great counting stats and weak kdr

I also run off to objectives with 12 other enemies on my own

Man if only my teammates had some balls

We could all be doing a siege

[tawny carbon]

Play R6S then

BF is a casual game, not a competitive/ranked game

[fiery shoal]

play time means absolutely nothing

[glossy glacier]

wsg

[fiery shoal]

especially for a boots to the ground shooter where 90% of skills/knowledge transfers over from other boots to the ground shooters

[jade bay]

I barely played any shooters besides a roblox shooter lol

which was in fairness possibly inspired by battlefield but in many ways simpler

[pine roost]

It’s not phantom forces is it

[jade bay]

it is

I was an elite phantom forces player bro

[pine roost]

Yehe

Figured

That game was fire

[jade bay]

Banned at rank 182

I cursed out the admins too much

[pine roost]

Got to 150 I believe

Back when I couldn’t afford or run any actual games :|

[jade bay]

sameeee

A great poor man’s shooter

poor man’s cod I guess

[fiery shoal]

eh, the general gist of "point and click while moving" is the basis of any shooter

get good at that and like i said, any other standard shooter is going to have transferable skills

[orchid tusk]

DUDE A BLIND PIZZA BOY CAN AFFORD THIS SHIT WTF YOU TALKIN BOUT

[jade bay]

it’s a shame that the battlefield 2042 fanbase seems to have ZERO transferred skills

[jade bay]

I had a weak computer

Affordable or not

[orchid tusk]

fair enough lol

[pine roost]

Same

[jade bay]

I got a 4070 and then my options skyrocketed

[fiery shoal]

i just think its the type of game bf is, youre just a single person out of a large scale battle and youre input is largely marginal, so just do what you think is fun

[jade bay]

not my gf options though, girls don’t like my hand assembled pc

[pine roost]

Gtx 750 until 2017

[orchid tusk]

well...they could do a better job of matchmaking squads i think

[jade bay]

Marginal unless you’re really good or an active team vehicle obliterator

[orchid tusk]

if they even need to have them

[jade bay]

In my opinion, battlefield players should have Wins Above Replacement stats

[fiery shoal]

ehhh, im WELL above average and i feel like i only influence my games towards a win every once in a while?

[jade bay]

like in baseball

[fiery shoal]

not much you can do as a single person out of 64/128

[jade bay]

basically how much winning percentage you add or take away

try and find a formula for it counting saves, revives, kills, assists etc.

and then we can finally see how actually bad the teammates are

I probably add a 2-4% chance of winning

actually that’s high

1.5-2.5% maybe

[fiery shoal]

if i had to guess find the average win ratio (which i would assume is 50%, but at the same time the average KDR is 1)

[jade bay]

average human kd is actually above 1 surprisingly

I think it’s cause bot deaths are added to your human kd

[tawny carbon]

You don’t add bots

[jade bay]

I meant

Deaths to bots

Not bot kills

[fiery shoal]

revives

[jade bay]

oh right

[tawny carbon]

The average KD people talk about day to day bases have nothing to do with bots

[jade bay]

revives

I’m silly

[fiery shoal]

revives dont take away a kill but save your death

[jade bay]

I thought deaths to bots get counted toward your human kd

But I could be wrong entirely

[fiery shoal]

human kd is human kd

overall kd includes human and bot

[tawny carbon]

^ this

[fiery shoal]

thats why human kd is always lower than overall kd

(At least ive never seen the opposite)

huh, i should log in and get 1 more kill just to get a flat 17k

[tawny carbon]

Human is always lower

[jade bay]

My K/D sucks cause I can’t use snipers and I’m a rush kinda guy

[fiery shoal]

meaningless stat anyways

unless youre playing tdm

[jade bay]

in the context of 2042 yeah

[tawny carbon]

Bruh, I use snipers in CQB

[jade bay]

imagine going to 2042 for tdm

[jade bay]

I also do occasionally

[fiery shoal]

in any game really

[jade bay]

But I can’t hit shit

[fiery shoal]

only game mode kdr matters is tdm

[jade bay]

My headshot percentage is terrible!!!!

[tawny carbon]

In every game set for extremely comp games like Csgo, Val, R6S ect

[fiery shoal]

comp games kdr matters less in a sense because youre playing similarly skilled opponents

like a good kdr for a pro csgo player playing against other pros is like 1.3

[jade bay]

I’m trying to farm melee kills

It looks fairly easy to get into the top 100 for it

Most players don’t go out of their way for melees but I do

[fiery shoal]

actually just googled this, 1.32 is the BEST kdr, followed by 1.28

[tawny carbon]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/origin/TheOuijaZozo/overview

[fiery dawn]

is there no channel for reporting scammers in this server

@fiery shoal you're still alive mate?

[fiery shoal]

somehow

[tawny carbon]

My stats is ass but I only play for fun, shits and giggles.

[fiery dawn]

it's almost our anniversary again

are you gonna forget it this time?

😭

[fiery shoal]

already did

[jade bay]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/origin/SilverWolfish/overview

I try my hardest per games cause killing is the best way to play

[fiery dawn]

anyways @graceful lion is a scammer or bot of some kind

[jade bay]

Another art scammer?

[fiery dawn]

yeah

[fiery shoal]

i just try to kill as many people as possible in the stupidest ways since thats fun to me

[sullen violet]

That's what matters most in the end. But it's also fun too sweat too a bit tbh

[fiery dawn]

what's the art scam anyways, I didn't even accept the friend request cause it's so obvious but the bio does have some quote about art in it

[jade bay]

Nobody knows what exhilaration is until they get a melee squad wipe

[tawny carbon]

I cuss out art scammers and tell them that they are broke asf, poor, steal other people art works because they can’t make their own

It’s funny when they just end up blocking me right away

[sullen violet]

[pine roost]

Can honestly say I’ve only ever gotten like 3 melee kills

[tawny carbon]

Fun is what matter at the end of the day. Can have the most shit stats and still have fun

[fiery dawn]

are they trying to sell digital art or something?

[tawny carbon]

Ye

[fiery dawn]

why would anyone be so stupid

[tawny carbon]

Or whatever they made, if they even made it

Or ask you to make you art of your choice or whatever

[fiery dawn]

that's so dumb lmao

[jade bay]

I got near 200

[fiery shoal]

same, i dont melee at all, rather shoot and move on

[jade bay]

Once I found out about melees I couldn’t stop myself from melee kill farming

[jade bay]

Lame

[sullen violet]

Make it go long enough time before you sue them so they will learn a hard lesson 😈

[jade bay]

and that doesn’t get you on the all time knife kill leaderboard

[unkempt birch]

Jews

[jade bay]

I’m top 9% in melee kills

[tawny carbon]

If I don’t know you like that. I say what I say to them and move on with my day

[jade bay]

I’m also an elite medic

[fiery shoal]

out of 17k kills, i have 2 melee kills lol

[jade bay]

I like to get up close and personal

[unkempt birch]

Deep in the enemy

[jade bay]

Nvm I only have 153 melees

[unkempt birch]

(lines)

[tawny carbon]

I have 64

[jade bay]

wow

[tawny carbon]

I feel like I have less

[jade bay]

So 3% of my kills are melee wtf

[tawny carbon]

I don’t even pay attention

[unkempt birch]

I have -2 cause i am too poor to afford the game

[tawny carbon]

[unkempt birch]

Hey at least i didnt buy the game

w me

[tawny carbon]

If the game goes on sale, I got chu

Just gotta have a good pc build tho

It’s heavy tbh

[unkempt birch]

Its like 16.39 on g2a

[fiery shoal]

you average 9 revives a game, thats pretty damn good afaik

i average 5 and though im not reviving EVERYONE, i do try to revive pretty often

[tawny carbon]

I get paid in couple days

I can spare a 20 at most

[pine roost]

What’s in rotation at the moment? Been a few weeks since I last played but this convo has me in the groove to get back to it

[jade bay]

How about you give that 20 to me and I’ll blow it on gambling

Except I won’t blow it cause I’m the best gambler EVERRR

[tawny carbon]

No

[jade bay]

I’ll get you your 20 back and then some

[tawny carbon]

No

[jade bay]

How about it

Invest in me

[tawny carbon]

Me no trust ya

[jade bay]

And I’ll even pay for his battlefield

[tawny carbon]

Cap

[jade bay]

I’ve won over 4000 in baseball bets all time

[unkempt birch]

If you buy me it ill be your e-nutdumpster

[jade bay]

That’s profit not revenue

[tawny carbon]

[tawny carbon]

Proof

Or cap

[jade bay]

I can’t post the proof homeboy

I have no media

[tawny carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-gif-19534315

[jade bay]

Besides, a lot of it is off the books with my boy Spence

That guy makes terrible bets but has the money to keep making them for 2000 years

I lost 100 to him once

[tawny carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/nitro-rick-roll-gif-24863685

[orchid tusk]

TI4200 for 140 and a 800 loan from your boy for a hp 540n off the shelf at CompUSA will set you right for bf42 (1942 that is, 20+ years ago)

good for murdering whores in gta3 too

you can do it so ez

dont even have to think about it

[vague nymph]

uhhh control is the main game mode rn rush got replaced next to TDM and in Portal theres Tank Superiority and 1942 Rendezvous

[vague nymph]

It was 9€ on summer sale

[fresh lintel]

I love when bots are 15 of my deaths in Stadium because they're literally hitting 100% of their shots in CQC

[tame crow]

ngl skill issue

[fresh lintel]

I went 88-17 with a Gew Dozer and literally 3 of my deaths were from actual humans 😭

[tame crow]

how many of your kills were bots

it is still skill issue. i dont find the bots at all challenging in any scenario.

[fiery shoal]

sometimes they do lazer and youre just like.. well that sucks

i always like when im just spearing through an entire front line and some bot kills me

[vital quail]

Ngl even tho they are easy kills I sometimes don't even bother wasting time shooting at them

[tame crow]

the only time i seem to die to a bot is when i am engaging a target and i am in the open then a bot or multiple nail me from other angle(s)

[tame crow]

fr especially if i see human player movement. they are priority

[fresh lintel]

Most players were ontop, i was farming like two squads of players at D constantly. Maybe pushing up for a flank.

The bots arent challenging. They do however aim better than the average player.

I die more to bots than actual players. Even if the match has 25+ Slots filled with players on the enemy team.

Enemies I can get away with zigzagging and sliding behind cover.

Bots will just one burst you with a PKP regardless.

[tame crow]

wait you play on old gen right?

[fresh lintel]

Yup

[tame crow]

oh that is why the players are crappers lol

[fresh lintel]

Yeah they're genuinely awful.

[tame crow]

yea i tried it recently

i mean you get some folks who are good but bro that is like super rare lol

[fresh lintel]

Then you got people from next gen occasionally coming to last gen to pad their stats.

CA needed 7 players

[tame crow]

seriously there are a lot of bad players in the playerbase all over the place across all platforms but old gen just hits diff lol

[fresh lintel]

Yeah there's seldom few good players on last gen. Like ACTUALLY good at the game and not just "Hey guys I have XIM :3"

If I had a MNK i'd be in the 4KPM's by now

[tame crow]

lol

[fresh lintel]

Thats how bad it is.

But I got a 13 year old xbox one and $30 controllers because I refuse to XIM

[tame crow]

one of my friends recently got a pc and moved on from old gen. he was struggling at first but now he good.

it was a big diff he said

[fresh lintel]

Yeah I don't know what "Input" issues MNK has but I doubt i'd have too much issue with it.

Not to mention I can switch from MNK to Controller pretty much seamlessly. My "Rusty" is still better than a 1.5 KD players aim lmao

But god the framerate.. I wonder how many fights ive lost due to the FPS difference.

[fresh lintel]

Okay if I get hunted down by like 5+ players or if some lagging shitlord is invisible until they start executing me again I am fucking uninstalling.

Too much bullshit happening after the battlepass ended.

[next onyx]

Weird delay plus a multitude of things.

[fresh lintel]

Yeah I was on Haven and I look up stairs, no one. I hear only shooting so whoevers up stairs is preoccupied.

I pull out my shield to be cheeky, I look up to where the corner is above the stairs as its a hidey spot

Instantly being executed.

Like the same thing happened in Manifest where I was on the scaffolding stuff and then suddenly i'm being executed.

No one was with me. No one was around me. No one was prone or hiding. He didnt land on me or near me.

This fucking boris LITERALLY just appeared and executed me lmao

[lament flint]

i really need someone to help me 😦

my game isnt opening

[fresh lintel]

Yeah the aim is just off no matter what so its either the controller or game.

[fresh lintel]

Yeah imma just uninstall until I get a series X.

If the only thing that can consistently kill me are bots and ximmers, and the bots are literally EVERYWHERE on a map then imma just not.

Not to mention the other issues currently.

[royal trail]

i feel like the hitreg is random at times, i sometimes can stand right behind a guy and empty my entire gun into him without him taking any damage, and sometimes its really snappy and works as intended

[rare warren]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Battlefield-2042-black-screen-after-launching-the-game/m-p/14001790/highlight/true#M61061

[proud rain]

Hey, i got a question, does 2024 run under linux with proton? i've been playing bf4 so far (i got it quite cheap on steam during a sale some time but i'm interested into playinh 2024 tbh)

[remote kiln]

it does not, EA anticheat isnt compatible with proton

[proud rain]

uhm ok sad, ive read mixed infos about that thats why i asked
some said it runs but those were mostly bit older, and more recent info i found says it doesnt
did they add the incompatble anticheat later? (just curious)

[remote kiln]

yes it did run before because the game used easy anticheat which is compatible with linux, EA anticheat was added later so it doesnt work with linux, bf5 and soon 1 wont work either for the same reason

[proud rain]

uhm wow, do you know if they've any plans in working on linux compat? I switched a year ago to linux as my main os and i'm quite happy with it, i wont just reboot into windows for playing bf (will 4 be affected too?)

[vague nymph]

Man

[vague nymph]

2042?

[remote kiln]

no idea, probably not, but i dont work for EA, just guessing, if they were to add compatibility it wouldnt be till the next game at a minimum mostly likely

[proud rain]

yh, thanks btw i was just curious if u may heard rumors or so

[remote kiln]

none thus far

[vague nymph]

Well the easiest way i can suggest @proud rain is a VM with high specs dedicated to it to run BF2042 in if thats what you want to do

[remote kiln]

a VM wont work

[vague nymph]

What why not

If it works for Valorant why the hell wouldnt it for EA

[proud rain]

i havent looked into that yet i dont know thaaat much about linux

[remote kiln]

you need secure boot and TPM to be enabled, unless you are virtualising 10 it wont work

[vague nymph]

Yeah thats the point though

a VM of win 10

[proud rain]

uhm so ea with their anticheat did the same stuff as valorant ?

[remote kiln]

similar yes not the same

[vague nymph]

a VM is a Virtual PC (Virtual Mashine) like a second OS in your main OS

[proud rain]

valorant is a big nono for privacy reasons tbh

[remote kiln]

vanguard is much more restrictive than ea anticheat

they are both kernel level though

[vague nymph]

Its not kernal level no but its still nasty and not compatible with linux

[vague nymph]

huh?

[remote kiln]

ea anticheat is kernel level

[vague nymph]

thats cancer than

regardless the same workarounds should work as getting valorant to run then since thats kernal level

[remote kiln]

they will, but not for long, timespan wise

[proud rain]

yah i know, like when i was 13 or so i played with i think it was virtualbox on windows
but i havent looked into creating a vm under linux
i read about it but for playing i would need another graphics card in the virutal pc and idk i dont have the money for that and it seemed really complex

[vague nymph]

Why not? Its not like BF2042 is getting any Major updates

[remote kiln]

updates to EA anticheat are independent of the game, that is support for it is outwith 2042, 5 and 1, its updated separately

[vague nymph]

Honestly i personally havent done it before either since i just run linux in my thinkpad and windows on the gaming PC

[proud rain]

idk i switched to linux to try it out, and it i liked that it is so customizable but i also spent a lot of time with troubleshooting / figuring out stuff (but it's also interesting to do os i dont mind)
i dont play that much anymore, i mostly focus on gym and school got demanding (time wise, i'm at 13th grade now, before 11th grade it was pretty chill haha)

[remote kiln]

you can just do the reverse

wsl is much easier to work with

[proud rain]

hm i dont like windows 11 tbh, and 10 is getting out of support soon (also in 10 annoying things started to happen) idk microsoft is somewhat greedy and privacy invading and ignorant

idk its so weird with some publishers working against linux basically and with steamos / getting more and more popular and linux in general (i know its still a minority but still)

[chilly jacinth]

Linux gamers are a minority of a minority

[jade bay]

not only that but linux is basically a waste of time

[jade bay]

y'all got a 13th grade wtf?

[proud rain]

yah but like on steam its already 2% of all users like in absolute numbers thats already a lot of players and its raising (slowwly)

[vague nymph]

You genuinely only post the stupidest takes ever dont you?

[proud rain]

yah but depends a bit on the state you live in, i'm from germany

[vague nymph]

Deutschland Deutschland üüüber alllessss

[proud rain]

haha

[vague nymph]

But yeah i mean probably your best bet is dual booting win 10 to play stuff like BF2042

[jade bay]

It is a waste of time bro

there's basically no reason for anyone but a coder to use linux

[proud rain]

most dont expect me to be german when they see me idk

[jade bay]

coders are also a supreme minority

[jade bay]

oh I see

wait so that german chick I dated who's three years older than me is still in school? damn

[proud rain]

yah i know but everything else i do works on linux and i havent bootet windows for like 2 months or 3 idk
i'm lazy

[vague nymph]

There really is though as its not invading your privacy its not that hard to use and it has a shit tonne of driver support nowadays even if some older stuff or Nvidia GPUs can be annoying

[jade bay]

you might be surprised to hear this but you almost certainly can still get tracked

[proud rain]

nah, maybe, school ends after 10th grade by default, but you can continue (if your grades allow), and get a better graduation which will allow you to study/go to university, thats 13 or in some states 12 years then

[jade bay]

also linux is clunky and nvidia gpus are literally best on the market

[vague nymph]

No shit sherlock but i dont enjoy when the OS directly sends what files i use for example or what i am to people for money

[proud rain]

uhhhm chill guys i didnt want to start war here haha

[vague nymph]

Its really not that clunky if you know where to start and what to do lol you keep posting these takes without actually knowing what you are saying

[vague nymph]

Not your fault Godzilla has been an idiot for a few days here alr whenever i come in atleast

[jade bay]

one time me and one of my boys from 4chan (he's a degen but we all love him) went on a terrific trolling spree where he hacked into linux users' stuff and I'd prank call them

good times

[vague nymph]

not funny didnt laugh

[jade bay]

you weren't there

ofc you didn;t

[vague nymph]

doxxing people isnt cool

[proud rain]

hm

[jade bay]

I didn't dox them lil boy

we didn't release their info

granted its stored

[vague nymph]

or harassing them idc

[jade bay]

linux ain't all its cracked up to be

[vague nymph]

@proud rain Das ist echt ein oberspast sry das der im chat ist grad

[jade bay]

hey guys

[vague nymph]

No

[jade bay]

what are your thoughts on that dude who stole a billion from germany

and went to russia

[proud rain]

dont worry its fine

[jade bay]

I have basic understanding of some stuff you know

[vague nymph]

My thoughts are: "I hope Godzilla leaves the server"

[jade bay]

lol why so mad?

[vague nymph]

Because you are annoying

get out

[jade bay]

I didn't do anything wrong

you wanna blame me for hacking, go blame my homie

[vague nymph]

You keep posting the most brain melting takes dude you do so much wrong that it hurts my brain

[jade bay]

he's the one who had the idea, I just did the calls

[vague nymph]

every morning lately when i check for europeans to play with i see you saying some extremely stupid shit

why cant you be normal

[jade bay]

I've proven you wrong several times brother

show me one instance where I was wrong

[vague nymph]

You genuinely havent or else id say that

[proud rain]

btw i'm gonna hop under the shower, back in a few minutes (when i asked about linux support i basically just woke up)

[jade bay]

Bye bye Manuel

[vague nymph]

Linux isnt clunky its actually extremely fast and customizable if you know what you are doing and can wager your options for stuff like a normal person like maybe using a fancy less dated window manager (Plasma instead of XFCE) for example thats just 1 stupid thing you said rn and NVIDIA GPUs might be decent but neither company makes a good price offering and atleast AMD has good linux support and that was my second point you completely ignored how dogshit nvidia support for linux is

Heres your paragraph of why i want you to shut the hell up since you asked

[vague nymph]

Fair enough

[jade bay]

first of all its clunky not in the sense that it's slow but the fact that it's got a ton of features that most people could not use or are already supplemented by Windows

and almost anyone will agree it's harder to use besides well coders

also using the reasoning that amd is better because it has linux compatibility is an extremely circular argument when linux should be trying if anything to work with nvidia

not nvidia trying to adjust for linux

also yeah nvidia is still a better gpu for all things gaming and it's still the best at the top of the market

of course though you don't know these things cause you're a hilarious fanboy

[vague nymph]

My guy its NVIDIA that has to make the drivers but keeping them closed source is the problem why linux users cant keep older cards supported for example as easily thats NVIDIAs fault but you dont know that cuz you are talking out your buttocks

[vague nymph]

Im genuinely not im one of the few people who advocate for linux support to get better that thinks using linux for dailying sucks but THATS BECAUSE I MOSTLY GAME

But i want to have better GAME SUPPORT so i can have the better FPS of Linux and less crap i dont need which you said would be there which isnt true as what you install on Arch is your choice

Its not like windows with 37 Phone games preinstalled like fuckin candy crush

Like i said you talk out your ass without being informed just try learning about linux a little before opening your mouth

[proud rain]

i'm back

[vague nymph]

Before you go "why so hostile" its exactly because you are attacking something i enjoy for no reason with stupid reason

[vague nymph]

sup

[proud rain]

breakfast :D

[vague nymph]

Ive been up all night tbh ima sleep soon lmao

[jade bay]

linux is simply more difficult to use with less practical applications besides coding

[jade bay]

I'm well aware of how linux works

I just don't use linux cause I'm not in the business of wasting my own time

[vague nymph]

Its a circle that you dont seem to understand i think: Less users = less support =less users and so on and so on but because of the steamdeck for example and tower PC and laptop linux users its getting recognized for gaming and ive been wanting the support to get way better for a while so more steamdeck likes are a great thing

[proud rain]

also chromebooks are basically linux (even if google is another problem)

[jade bay]

chromebooks are ass

[proud rain]

yah

[vague nymph]

They are android actually

but yes its a type of linux

omg guys did you know ur smasnug has the linux???

[proud rain]

hm??

[fringe oak]

Bomboclqt

[formal valley]

hi

[naive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/homem-aranha-tobey-maguire-bully-maguire-gif-24530055

[arctic grove]

😭

[topaz breach]

[upbeat gust]

umm, i just got a skin for the blackhawk after a normal round..

it's not showing in the vehicles section though

[mental delta]

Blackhawk ?

Wdym ?

[wheat iron]

Party?

[warped hearth]

Why is tank superiority in this game total ass

[dire loom]

Hello guys!

I have a question about how to get unbanned from a portal server? 😄

[upbeat gust]

like, the chopper

i straight up got a forest skin for it after a round in normal conquest

im guessing that's the first vehicle they're porting from portal

[naive ember]

Ask them very nicely to get unbanned, it works all the time

[dire loom]

i can't find them to ask 😄
it's one of those servers "FULL XP CONQUEST 128 ALL MAPS WITH PVP BOTS"

[jade bay]

Stop playing portal

That’s the easiest solution

Portal is for FARMERS anyway

[naive ember]

Facts

[quiet shell]

Just had a game where a dude kept wasting our tanks cause he kept sitting on a hill with the tanks ass facing the enemy

Do some people play these games and genuinely dont understand how armor works?

[slate meadow]

is it just me thats struggling to find full lobbies in BT

[oblique vigil]

It is with great pleasure I inform that I have finally T1’d something.

||The defibrillator||

[cloud kestrel]

Skill gap is always a good thing but as a player you gotta take the good with the bad

[jade bay]

that was my first t1 too

[oblique vigil]

Nice

[void gorge]

Good evening, when an ally revives your fallen soldier, as soon as the revive animation ends, another animation appears which is like a white "flare" on your screen and I wonder why the hell EA put this in the game when it is more of a hindrance than help

[glass imp]

I agree, what a decadence

[naive ember]

Why does little stuff like that bother you dude?

[tropic berry]

Perchance that is how it works.. what a decadence!

[vital quail]

Just yapping fr

[hoary sentinel]

it does seem that he gets bothered by the smallest of details, huh
now Idk who that guy is but going through the messages and all, its certainly looking that way

[glass imp]

reminds me of a person a tad familiar. I just can’t put my finger on it 🤔

[next onyx]

Oh God they're here

[tame crow]

bruh just be happy you got revived lad lol

[hoary sentinel]

Hiii

Oops forgor ping again my b

Also yeah just be happy you're back in the fight, not many people get to do that in 2042

[next onyx]

Hihi :)

[next onyx]

It's fine. It's helpful if I'm not online cause I can respond on my watch.

[hoary sentinel]

Like Dick Tracy, I get it

[arctic grove]

Acw is the best all rounder imo

[hoary sentinel]

I might get some flak but i like the aek
But only in cqc areas

[next onyx]

M16 supremacy.

[rotund ledge]

Can someone confirm they changed the helicopter physics and flight mechanics to make gravity actual affect aircraft?

because it feels different than i remember

[remote kiln]

yes they did

was a while ago now

[zealous zephyr]

why sometimes the game will drop few frames and mouse input are laggy for like half seconds

[rotund ledge]

was so needed

can't believe it took them so long to fix recoil on guns and flight mechanics

and they brought in the munitions point system in their new game mode which i suggested years ago

they really should do another modern bf game with bf2042 as the base

its at least tolerable

[pearl ridge]

What you mean that stupid system they have in Ascension or whatever it's called?

[last willow]

I think it's awesome cause it rewards good gameplay

As long as it stays in its respective game mode

[pearl ridge]

What it rewards is shitters who farm points and then hog vehicles the whole match

[last willow]

Well, do good = get points?

Why is that bad?

Do bad = no vehicles

too bad so sad lol

[pearl ridge]

Because due to the way the game is designed, good gameplay doesn't necessarily mean good score

[last willow]

Well right, so as long as it's not forced in the ENTIRE game

And only in a specific game mode

For those who want it

I highly enjoy Control cause of the chaos of moving objectives

And it's a highly PTFO style of game mode

Haven't played BF in a while though, been in Gray Zone and Delta Force

[strange tiger]

i need rush xl back, other mods are boring

[desert condor]

@kristof178

[naive ember]

I'm still waiting for 256p and in redacted

[pearl ridge]

The fact that designation assists don’t count as actual assists is some bullshit

I was putting in good work making sure their chopper could never go without taking rocket fire. Three shootdowns on the same guy thanks to my soflam.

[sand violet]

the hackers in this is rediculous

[upbeat gust]

wildcat players that camp in spawn literally make me want to stop playing this game

like let me fly for more than 30 seconds

[spare quest]

skill issue tbh

[tawny carbon]

Be the wildcat, I fucking dislike the wildcat even after its buffs. I gave up and be a lazy scummy noob that is a loser. By playing wildcat, bro they handicapped tf out of wildcat, it’s noob proof ez mode. Compared to it was couple years ago which takes actual skill

[sand violet]

if anyone is playing against OldMillJack can they report him please? so blatant about hacking

[tawny carbon]

Just report him in game

Dice/EA will take care of it when the ban wave comes

[sand violet]

How often do ban waves come?

[tawny carbon]

Idk 🤷‍♂️

They come in waves tho

[pearl ridge]

Dunking on some camping sniper with the GVT is always satisfying. I’m out here using zero magnification and they have to use a 6x scope minimum to hit me

And this thing isn’t exactly amazing at range

[tawny carbon]

gamer Tano here

[pearl ridge]

At these distances their stupid scope glint actually covers their entire body

So I just aim for that

Or above it.

[tawny carbon]

I love sniping with a 3-4x than a 6-8x+ tbh unless I’m far far away

[pearl ridge]

I’m kinda crap at leading targets from too far away so I never go above 5x at most if I can help it

Like the only time I bring out the high magnification is if I need to countersnipe some asshole so I can get back to actually important things

[pearl ridge]

God, lever actions and break actions fuck severely

I swear to god they better put a break action shotgun in the next one

They’re so fun to play with

[rotund ledge]

Yeah. Makes it so you can "main" a vehicle the whole game, and you have to balance PTFOing rather than sitting on spawn screen waiting for the next vehicle drop

One of the mechanics I suggested on Reddit

that or spawn timer delays

[chilly jacinth]

Except that shit always snowballs outta whack

Terrible mechanic

[rotund ledge]

also they fixed recoil on guns and flight mechanics

this is how the game should have released

what a disappointment

added weapon bloom

It's insane how many "large" changes they implemented to the core game that vastly changed how it plays

like 2 years after its release

[pine roost]

They fixed flight assist in the very last update, and broke it in the first. Poetic really

[rotund ledge]

It only makes sense that they supported 2042 for so long if they are using this game as the foundation for the next

[pine roost]

Well even then it’s not even fully fixed

[rotund ledge]

Another modern bf game would take advantage of the work they did on the franchise

instead of moving to a whole new era

similar to like bf3 -- > bf4

bf1 --> bf5

bf2042 --> bf2025

[pine roost]

Trouble is dice like to change so much between each title that it can often feel like feedback from the previous isn’t applied

But they’ve heard so much back from us and made so many sweeping changes that if the next one doesn’t feel like it takes in that feedback I’ll be surprised

So in a sense I have a little more confidence

[amber kelp]

I had this exact thought when 2042 was announced

It always seems like the live teams are the ones who take feedback while the main development teams just do whatever they want

[pine roost]

Honestly yeah, it really does feel that way

[amber kelp]

Like how the live team in BF4 had to patch out the visual recoil only for bf1 to have even worse visual recoil

[pine roost]

I’ve heard comments from the live team saying things like they were dealt a bad hand, and made the most of it. And the changes they’ve made have been great, but when the game only really got to a solid state a year back it seems impossible for the game currently in development to ever implement those design changes into the upcoming game given how long it takes to make

[pearl ridge]

I still subscribe to the theory that 2042 was originally supposed to be some kind of BR side project before EA decided that it was going to be an actual Battlefield entry

[pine roost]

I still don’t buy it

It sounds so stupid to me that they even considered to make a mainline title a br

[pearl ridge]

It's taken so long for this damn game to become actually playable. Now the real biggest problem is just the map design being shit.

[amber kelp]

EA is stupid

[pearl ridge]

Other way around. They had to make the BR into the mainline title

[pine roost]

So what happened to the mainline title

[pearl ridge]

Probably was supposed to be another year or two of BFV development

[amber kelp]

BFV having extra planned updates is mostly a myth. Nothing was datamined regarding Russia

[pearl ridge]

The Mosin-Nagant mortar launcher says otherwise

[amber kelp]

plenty of in game weapons are from non-playable countries

If there were actual russian weapons in the files (ppsh, dp27, an actual mosin which they could port from bf1), it would have been found

[pearl ridge]

There's also clear holes in the US's armour selection, as they're missing their own heavy tank (Pershing), light tank (Stuart or Chaffee) and AA vehicle (Skink, technically Canadian, but it's a quad-mount 20mm turret on a Sherman chassis)

[amber kelp]

None were leaked either, we have no evidence they were planned.

[pearl ridge]

The British air vehicle selection is also missing patching needed to get it up to speed with the power-crept Germans

[amber kelp]

(on a side note, I prefer that the US has mostly shermans. It makes the faction feel different and reflects their actual armor)

At best you could say that maybe they planned the Wolverine at some point since it appears in portal

[pearl ridge]

But it gets them absolutely fucked by the Tiger spam every time

[amber kelp]

If mediums cant compete with heavies then perhaps the issue is that heavy tanks arent properly balanced

[pearl ridge]

They're properly balanced by bringing your own heavy tanks to counter them, or at least something with a proper big gun.

[amber kelp]

Thats not balance.

Thats just an overpowered vehicle dominating the meta

Tank destroyers could have been a good option. Fast glass cannons that can fuck up a heavy

[pine roost]

Hopefully not that much.
If they had a mainline and a br offshoot, and chose to push the br one as the main game of the year, the main entry must have been in an abysmal state.

Which is why I just believe it was the mainline game that had elements from brs stuffed in it just because it was popular at the time

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

That tank didn’t know what hit 'em 💥💀

🎬 u/Padizzle1881

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Aug 29, 2024, 6:05 PM

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[patent pivot]

delete specialist and restore unnnamed soldier classes

[tawny carbon]

Make the game melee only

No guns or vehicles in a big BR size map with minor differences

[fiery shoal]

i really wonder if they go through with this next game, because selling skins to specific characters seems easier than unnamed soldiers

and like.. thats the way they fund the live service now

[pine roost]

We had named soldiers in V technically speaking and nobody batted an eye, the most egregious thing are the potentially overbearing personalities that scream ‘look at me’ rather than blending in. Can agree it’s going to be hard to sell skins for them but I’d rather have it regardless

Like, for me it's not necessarily the whole idea of being a completely blank slate character, there's personality in the soldiers of bf3, 4 and 1, but it's when there's that dissonance between what's happening in game and what the characters are saying that then has it feeling noticably out of place

[pearl ridge]

Well actually there was a fair few batted eyes, between the sometimes-garish designs and the lack of a faction lock for them

But at least they didn't have actual gameplay effects

[fiery shoal]

this could be a reason bfv "got cut short", because they were limited to some sort of authentic aesthetic and just generally releasing skins outside of a specific character

and like tano pointed out, there were still "muh history" nerds that took offense somehow

[pearl ridge]

Well I mean it is kinda annoying to see some German grandpa wearing vibrant blue on Iwo Jima

Sure makes it easy to shoot the dumb bastards though

[fiery shoal]

🤷 its a casual sandbox shooter loosely inspired by events, i think anyone letting a product titled like that have any sort of influence over your emotions is just ridiculous

[pearl ridge]

What we need is to actually make class locked cosmetics a thing again, so we can actually tell them apart in a fight

[fiery shoal]

why does that matter?

[pearl ridge]

In 2042, if I see some asshole with a skull mask, I have no idea what class they're playing as

Because they all have stupid skull masks now

[fiery shoal]

they still die the same way when you shoot them

[pearl ridge]

Target prioritisation is a thing.

Tanks gotta kill engies first.

[pine roost]

if they gave a support class a skull mask and an assault a skull mask skin that problem still stands

[fiery shoal]

ive always heard this perspective when talking about being able to identify characters in bf games and i just call bs on it

theres very, VERRRY few situations when it is ideal to prioritize a certain character

[pine roost]

Talking about the character presets over the special skins

[pearl ridge]

BF1's class design is fantastic, with every class sharing certain design elements while still looking distinct to every faction

[fiery shoal]

ironically i never learned those aspects and my bf1 stats were like top 1% across every per min/match stat

(because it really doesnt matter)

[vital quail]

Agreed

[pearl ridge]

I consider tactics to be slightly more important than fucking k/d

If I'm fighting at mid range, I'm not going to hit the assaults first, because they're less of a threat from that distance

[fiery shoal]

considering i said "per minute/match" kind of disregards kd...

[fiery shoal]

except this varies considering they have a variety of weapons that change their effective range

[pearl ridge]

Not by that much

Meanwhile, the medics who are easily identifiable with their crutches and medical bags are the real danger at that distance

[fiery shoal]

youre telling me youre taking time/processing power to look at characters to tell what class they are and what weapons they have to prioritize targets instead of just shooting them? mmmk

[pearl ridge]

And taking out medics first makes the enemy line collapse faster

Like fuck me for actually wanting to use my brain in a fight instead of sliding around with an smg all day like some shitter

[pine roost]

The only time I ever focus that much on class is if it's a sniper. Since if they are tied to snipers you can time dodges to bait out shots

[fiery shoal]

never said to not do that, but to try to suggest it really matters in a bf title is just silly

[pearl ridge]

Then 2042 comes along and gives every class every gun

[fiery shoal]

the only direct way to influence a match is to play smaller games modes or play in a squad

everything else is influencing a match by small percentages

and id say "taking time to identify enemies classes/weapons and prioritizing who to kill first" is VERY far down on that list of things to positively influence a match

is it a positive thing to do? sure, never said otherwise, but its not this aspect of the game that needs to prioritized in game development, let alone players moment to moment gameplay

[pearl ridge]

I'm sick of getting sniped at by dickhead assaults who used their mobility abilities to get into otherwise inaccessible spots

[fiery shoal]

eh im all for adding tools to the casual sandbox shooter

[pearl ridge]

The BF4 route worked okay in terms of weapons availability, with each class having an exclusive weapon type and then a set of universal generalist ones

[fiery shoal]

and the 2042 route works okay as well, you just have a preference which is fine, but none are objectively better

(theres a slight nod that weapons have been locked before so its an expected feature, but its not like changing it is against some law other than fans of the franchise getting pissy things change)

[amber kelp]

BF1's is great but IDK how well it maps to modern settings, mostly due to the support and assault.
The support doubles as the anti-aircraft/anti horse class due to the MG, which isnt going to play out in a modern day game
Meanwhile BF1's assault was balanced around either being close range or needing to deploy the rocket, which modern games cant do

Plus the general lack of assault rifles made each classes strengths and weaknessess more pronounced, there were only a few weapons that were "kinda good at everything"

[patent pivot]

Play your god damn roles

No more using any weapon

[fiery shoal]

i really dont think weapons influence if you play your role or not (other than recon, but thats always been the weakest class because of it imo)

[tacit crown]

I’m glad frontlines is back

[next onyx]

Delta force has balanced the classes real damn well I reckon.

[amber kelp]

Its good but I think each character has a bit too many abilities. It can feel really spammy due to that alone.

[next onyx]

I'm a bit sad engie gets all the battle rifles.

But I like that idea as a balance dynamic.

[amber kelp]

Medic can get a SCARH I think

[next onyx]

I'm right here stop with the reply pings every message.

[amber kelp]

k

[next onyx]

Also yeah medic has the scar h.

Engie with the g3 and m7.

G3 is amazing.

[amber kelp]

its kinda unclear why certain guns are limited to certain classes.
Like I get "Engie and Medic get battle rifles" but why does engie get more BR's specifically?

[next onyx]

Heavier gun maybe?

I was a bit weirded out initially.

But after a bit of thought I think I understand some of the cohesion.

[amber kelp]

yeah it being split by playstyle is my thought.
Heavier ARs for the defensive class and whatnot.

[next onyx]

Assault has high rof medium to close ranged guns

Engie has more ranged automatic weapons.

And medic has the m416.

But yeah absolutely.

The fact you can turn the m416 into an M27 IAR hilarious.

[amber kelp]

does it change the name?

[next onyx]

No.

But for intents and purposes.

It's a fucking IAR.

[amber kelp]

The extensive customization kinda has me concerned tbh. With the absurd number of options Im almost certain that not only with some dominant setup appear, but most people will just copy those setups due to choice paralysis.
Ive already made some guns that are so close to lazer beams that they become boring to use

[next onyx]

My biggest issue is how more powerful a fully upgraded gun is over base.

Most of the guns are shit at level 1.

[amber kelp]

Guns feel like theyre decent at lvl 1 and completely busted out the ass later, if that makes sense

[next onyx]

Ak12 is probably the better balanced gun cause you don't need Max levels to make it viable.

Yeah I understand.

I saw shady beam people across the map with assaults set up and it's crazy.

They need to add spread.

Oh I forgot engie even has the fucking ASH-12.

My bad. The shak 12.

The oden from mw19.

[amber kelp]

They seem to be trying something akin to spread with the sway mechanic but its just not effective at punishing spray

But I suspect that attempts to make the gunplay harder or deeper will be met with resistance

[next onyx]

Spread is a good mechanic when it's one completely under your own control.

Yeah

[amber kelp]

Im partial to suppression honestly.

[next onyx]

I'd probably do something where the first 16 rounds from your mag have really good accuracy but it gets exponentially worse beyond that point.

[amber kelp]

but I think suppression needs to either be MG exclusive or require a certain volume of fire

16 is a ton thats like half the mag

[next onyx]

Suppression fucking your accuracy up isn't a fun mechanic. I don't mind it giving "tunnel vision" but making gunfights more frustrating cause some dude missed their shots meaning you're more likely to miss your shots.

[fiery shoal]

thats good to hear, what i played a couple of weeks ago suucked in terms of balance

[next onyx]

Yeah no the idea I had was that it was an open spray but if you can't get the kill beyond that point you should be punished. And 16 rounds go quickly.

[next onyx]

It hasn't changed at all since they released the alpha.

[amber kelp]

thats why I think suppression should be in more restrictive circumstances. Cause yeah you dont want to reward someone for missing, but suppression is also a good way to push people in defensive positions and helps MGs stay relevant without becoming big ARs

[next onyx]

I'll be honest. A bipodded mg is already accurate enough and gives tonnes of natural suppression they don't need anything more.

To rid of counterplay makes it stale.

[fiery shoal]

yea but thats how you reward someone for missing

so just oust it, on top of it being an annoying mechanic for the person getting shot at

[amber kelp]

natural suppression isn't really a thing. People will just peak you. Its not like irl where someone is actually scared by an MG
Id argue suppression is counterplay to tunnel rats.

[fiery shoal]

tunnel rats?

[next onyx]

I do agree people will peak you however in the saying of that losing 90% of your health or even dying in a split second is enough of a detterance.

The longer the range the more difficult it is too.

This isn't ar accurate this is bipod accurate which is on another level.

[amber kelp]

I dont think MGs are good enough to do that.
I think so long as suppression is a deliberate choice a player makes, instead of something happening by accident, then it can be good.

[next onyx]

I don't think lmgs being big mag ar's is a bad thing in itself anyways.

[amber kelp]

its kinda boring

[next onyx]

M249 with a mag makes a super handy ranged option. The bipod added to the mix makes sure you make shots you wouldn't normally. In the downside of losing your head potentially.

[fiery shoal]

i would say bipoding and just suppressing is even more boring

[next onyx]

They're talking about more of the same which I understand.

The bren on bf5 was the perfect example of a hybrid lmg ar.

[fiery shoal]

yea still more boring to bipod with the intention of suppressing

[amber kelp]

Yeah I think theres a distinction to be drawn between stuff like a bren and, say, an M249.
Like a bren being this heavier AR I get, especially with the 30 round mag.

[next onyx]

Cod deals with lmgs pretty alright.

Handle slowly but they're amazing for holding your spot.

That's what I think when it comes to stuff like lmgs on 2042 except less mobility penalties.

[amber kelp]

How effective is that in cod, it never feels like theres good spots to hold in that game

[next onyx]

Well no there's a pretty bad mobility penalty because the sprint out penalty is really bad.

Offensive spot hold.

It sounds weird but in war you can easily excert pressure by positioning yourself forward and belt dumping.

[amber kelp]

personally my favorite LMGs have been BF1. I don't think they'd do it again cause the spread mechanic is fairly unintuitive but they are so satisfying to throw lead downrange with.

bf1 is one of the few games where its viable to just dump mags, even with the overheat mechanic, and I love it.

[tawny carbon]

I helped someone get 2042

[wheat iron]

Nice

[tawny carbon]

It’s a good game. I’m always down to get someone to play it and try out. Especially if they are on PS5/Series s|x/PC

Last gen. I’m sorry, I don’t recommend playing it
(Personally)

[naive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-9864414

[vital quail]

Seeing a boris use a stinger or javelin is so funny. Choosing to use a specialist that has less rockets than the other makes 0 sense

[patent pivot]

Then what would he be then

[gloomy wyvern]

I will never understand why people play a tactical shooter and absolutely refuse to use any logical tactic

[chilly jacinth]

Are you calling battlefield a tactical shooter?

I really hope you aren't

[vital quail]

Crawford ??? Lol

[patent pivot]

Might as well get rid of him

BF didn't have a single automated turret

[vital quail]

Get rid of boris? One can only hope

[fiery shoal]

its concerning this isnt obvious..

[patent pivot]

Maybe next game

[wicked marsh]

Why do so many people complain about how hard it is to level the draugr bruh

I made that thing t1 in like 3d

(Other than the fact it has no way to counter lock ons properly lol)

[gloomy wyvern]

No, but I do expect people to use logic in arcade shooters as you want to call it...

For example: Breakthrough isn't Call of Duty 🤯

[fiery shoal]

breakthrough is a game mode, not a game

[tawny carbon]

People don’t understand what the difference between a game mode and a game

[gloomy wyvern]

Imagine you're in a dune field where it's massive open air and have absolutely no overhead cover. Do you;

A) deploy Casper, Blasco, Falk & Mackay and utilize their abilities
B) sit 7x∞ yards back and shoot 9mm
C) refuse to engage in gameplay utilizing the operators abilities such as medical or providing munitions
D) deploy machines such as tanks and brawlers then decide to remain 8k meters away from the objective even after actively taking over the area
E ) all above excluding "A"

[gloomy wyvern]

It doesn't matter if it's breakthrough or if it's conquest... People don't use brains. It's almost as if they were surgically removed or never developed in the womb

[tawny carbon]

Your playing a game in this generation, you expect a lot

That’s sad 😞

[fiery shoal]

its weird you say that then correlate a game to a game mode, while trying to suggest cod is some uber casual game like bf isnt itself..

[gloomy wyvern]

A battlefield is not storage container

It never was. It never should be

[fiery shoal]

.. what are you talking about

[pine roost]

No no, they’ve got a point

If the next battlefield is a storage container then it won’t be a particularly good game

I mean, have you ever tried playing a storage container on a pc?

There’s nowhere to insert it

[gloomy wyvern]

Go to YouTube and look for your average experience in call of duty on the map "shipment"

[pine roost]

Oh that

[fiery shoal]

a 10mx10m tdm map for 12 people has what correlation to bf?

[gloomy wyvern]

This says it

No one plays logically like they used to

Now everybody treats it exactly as they do in call of duty

[fiery shoal]

lol i call bs

[pine roost]

Can’t change other players, just focus on your own work

[fiery shoal]

this arbitrary idea that gamers played better before compared to now is just weird

(and he is still making the reference that COD is more casual than bf..)

[gloomy wyvern]

How is cod not more casual

It's a pathetic laser beam

[fiery shoal]

ok, technically you can call it more casual, but by like.. 10%, but both are squarely casual shooters so to try to suggest they are drastically different from each other is insane

(cod has sbmm too, which i would argue is a more comp focus feature, which might even balance out the "casualness" of both)

[pine roost]

I’ll never understand how cod manages to have a comp scene

[fiery shoal]

the most popular games typically do regardless of how deep the mechanics are.

[pine roost]

Like how can you have comp in a game where the majority of gadgets and throwables are just instant advantage buttons

[sullen violet]

How is cod more casual than bf any cod game full of sweats and try hards, at least the few times i played cod

[pine roost]

I mean, I’m the kind of guy to make any game competitive, but you’ve got so many ways to get free kills it just doesn’t look like a competitively viable atmosphere

[fiery shoal]

theres different aspects of casual, a game can be casual from its mechanics but be competitive because of its players (or sbmm)

[gloomy wyvern]

All I'm asking for is the players that used to play battlefield 1 come back to battlefield 2042...

At least there players used tactics and brains for example

If somebody was taking their objective you would bet eight people got the mortar out and started thun thun thun

[fiery shoal]

bs

[gloomy wyvern]

Not

Every game I played it was constant mortars when somebody was taking the objective

[fiery shoal]

idk what bf1 you were playing, but its been all the same in all bf ive played since bf3

[fiery shoal]

only time ive ever seen a mortor being used was at edge of map on random points trying to get cheeky kills

[sullen violet]

I was thinking the way in like everyone has super aim and everyone moves faster than screen can pick up

[fiery shoal]

which yea, its definitely not casual in that aspect

[sullen violet]

Battlefield can be fast paced too but cod beyond fast My brain too slow for those games

[fiery shoal]

like id say cod is more comp than unreal tournament despite the mechanics for unreal make it a more comp game

[tame crow]

cod is for ritalin addicts

[fiery shoal]

i think bf just has more room to breath because of open maps

[tame crow]

the maps have been too open for awhile. map design has been in decline

[fiery shoal]

if you made a small infantry only map for any bf title it will play like cod

[pine roost]

The main metric I tend to use to discern whether something is casual or not is how many gadgets, mechanics, systems etc can earn you kills without requiring much skill to use. Quake having everyone start on the same footing and require aim and movement alone is a rather ‘raw’ shooter, I’d consider it more competitive. Something like cod that has killstreaks, those big gadgets, stun nades and an overall low ttk ends up as more casual on my little spectrum

[fiery shoal]

and i dont mean small relative to bf maps, but if you took nuketown and put it in any bf title itd play roughly the same

(obviously adjust player count and get rid of vehicles)

[sullen violet]

I would have to disagree with this though, can't compare battlefield/cod speed imo. Maybe with 2042, i dont remember havent played it in a while, maybe there speed is faster than other titles.

If battlefield had cod pace i wouldnt be playing bf most likley

[tame crow]

2042 is closest to cod speed

[fiery shoal]

id say outside of something like infinite warfare, most bf and cod titles had similar movement speeds at the time of their releases

so yea, they have both been getting faster over time

[pine roost]

2042 ironically has more movement options than modern cod

Bo6 might sway that, but before it was mostly just slide cancelling and dives

[sullen violet]

bf1 if i dont remember wrong was a bit slow down compared to bf4 tbh

[fiery shoal]

the only bf that i would say was noticeably slower than its cod counterpart would be bf1 to IW

[sullen violet]

5 speed up again cause sliding

[pine roost]

But of course the speed you see is relative to the size of the maps

[fiery shoal]

yea i cant say for sure, i dont recall going from 4 to 1 and thinking "this is slower" though

[pine roost]

There was a metric posted ages ago that showed the the unit differences in speed

Can probably find it for some factual proof

[fiery shoal]

like thank you alluded to though, some maps in bf1 were real fucking big and empty and i complained about that though

regardless, the general trend between the two titles have been faster movement speed

[sullen violet]

Mechanics made it a bit slower

[pine roost]

And more movement options

Which I dig

[fiery shoal]

bf1 had more movement options?

[pine roost]

No no just talking about trends in shooters moving forward

[fiery shoal]

oh gotcha

[pine roost]

I thought that’s what you were referring to

[sullen violet]

Sliding and climbing large walls 😛

[dull lion]

heyim new to bf got 2042 yesterday, why cant i get any lobbies??? it just infinitely says 1/64 16 needed to start

[pine roost]

I just kinda misread

[sullen violet]

I feel 2042 maybe was moving closer towards cod speeds tbh but still slower 🤔

[pine roost]

But yeah bf1 kinda just wasn’t as fun due to its limited movement

Honestly I’d be down for them sticking to what 2042 does. I understand a large part of the audience prefers less movement, and 2042 feels like it strikes a good balance

[sullen violet]

Wasn't too bad imo. Best was bf5 overall excluding the sliding, that was too op As for character movement etc...* Or you could say movement capabilites

[next onyx]

2042 you ran as fast as a bf3 soldier.

[pine roost]

Even though I’m a titanfall shill I’ll agree that movement of that degree in bf’s scale would just not work

[next onyx]

Sliding was really helpful for a distance.

[pine roost]

Sliding never really felt like a decision, just something to do as it was basically just running but you shorten your hitbox

Granted in 2042 I only ever slide to start a slide hop, but still

[next onyx]

The limited angle in which you could turn.

[pine roost]

But im not against it or anything

[next onyx]

Making offensive angles a bit awkward.

There was also bueno sliding.

[sullen violet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177094649473794049/829406321468112896/393n33n.mp4?ex=66d20054&is=66d0aed4&hm=b5ae80c6460f685d8a42f57b1fee4000b97a9d4d479083848d1582a9f006bb8c&

Broken sliding, smh

[pine roost]

Honestly might play some bfV tomorrow

[hoary sentinel]

decadence fr fr

[pine roost]

Got the evening off finally

And I desperately miss sniping in it

[sullen violet]

Wooop woooop

Sliding tooooooooooo much in 5

[pine roost]

Even if someone spams it, it never felt inoffensive

[sullen violet]

Sniping felt nice in 2042, same with 5. But i found myself being more satisfied with 2042 tbh

[pine roost]

Solid agree

Mostly due to the movement

If you ignore the differences in visuals, audio and general feel

[sullen violet]

Like for sniping, but movement too. Sad they removed crouch sprint though

Battlefield 5 they went all out on animations, but revive animation was nice in 5. You slide press e then animation, if you cancle you still crouched

[next onyx]

As someone who adapted to the animations most of them made sense.

[sullen violet]

In 2042 you crouch and slightest touch on shift you stand and its soo clumsy to revive in 2042 i feel

Too much focus on animation in 5 tbh, all though they was cool and what not. But not all of them was nice gameplay wise

Exit vehicle animations and slow parachute was pretty bad. If you exit plane you travel half map before actually jumping out. If i dont remember wrong 1 and 5 had forced kits for vehicles which i think was bad. Remember 1 had that for sure

[tawny carbon]

I’m am the one with the DOk

[sullen violet]

Seem like imposter

[tawny carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/cxyduck-cxydck-cexiy-cxy-devil-gif-19436081

[fiery shoal]

bfv locked you into the animation, 2042 youre not locked in so you could break it by moving too far

but you could jiggle revive in 2042

[sullen violet]

Liked 5 revive better at least

Also crouch sprint itself was pretty neat

[tawny carbon]

I do miss the crouch sprint

[fiery shoal]

i much prefer 2042 revive, i always hated just sitting there hoping i dont get shot, in 2042 i could at least make it a little unpredictable

[sullen violet]

You shoudl be able to cancel it if i dont remember wrong

Well, you cant look around ofc

[fiery shoal]

you can but the problem is youre just stuck in the animation, which means easy headshots from anyone watching

i swear 50% of my sniper headshot death are from reviving in bfv

[tawny carbon]

Only on steam tho. I wonder what’s the 24hr peak all platforms together tbh

[fiery shoal]

yea whenever anyone asks whats most popular and they dont say 2042 they are just bullshitting

[sullen violet]

If you dont smoke you probably gonna get shot easy

[fiery shoal]

i smoke a ton, would literally run all the smoke slots i could as a medic (which i think meant 3-4 smokes per life without restocking), and i used them a ton so i would commonly run out

[fresh lintel]

The only person that doesn't really need to smoke is Irish. Mans can just plop a wall

[fiery shoal]

i would use smoke nades and smoke launchers, for revives and traversing the map since if i was med i went CQC guns so i used smoke to get in close, on top of blocking LOS against vehicles so i could at least avoid them

i have almost 2k "shots fired" between the smoke nade and smoke launcher

[tame crow]

bfv a better revive than 2042

[fiery shoal]

how?

[tame crow]

2042 is clunky

[fiery shoal]

it takes same time to revive, the only different is being able to move while reviving in 2042, which is insanely better for the person reviving

its only clunky if you dont know the revive distance and you break it

[pine roost]

Much prefer it

[tame crow]

it is also more buggy at time when people find themselves in interesting places

in 2042

[fiery shoal]

cant say ive ever had problems with the revive myself but wont question if it has happened to people before

[vital quail]

On like redacted or valparaiso it can get bugged when you die under a bunch of leaves/bushes

[tame crow]

yea it can get real annoying

[fiery shoal]

well unintended bugs aside, i dont see how anyone can like bfv revives more than 2042

[vital quail]

But you can also revive people even when you are under them, I don't remember if you can do that in 5

[fiery shoal]

better chance of reviving 100% goes to 2042 and thats what matters

i have more revives in 2042 than bfv with less play time as well

(likely for the reasons i stated above)

[tame crow]

i only play support in both games

[fiery shoal]

medic main in just about any game i play

even if i shouldnt

[tame crow]

i prefer any other bf over 2042. as i have a fair amount of deaths from not being able to revive someone coz their body is in a interesting spot. it is just clunky and buggy.

[fiery shoal]

i prefer any other bf over 2042 in terms of reviving* ?

[tame crow]

i also dont like squad revives. they need to go.

[tame crow]

yes it is called a preference

[fiery shoal]

yea not questioning a preference, i was just confused if you were suddenly ranking the games

[tame crow]

i mean 2042 if we talking about rankings is way down my list

[fiery shoal]

same, just not in terms of reviving

[tame crow]

it is better than hardline and that is about it

as a whole game that is

[tawny carbon]

2042 revive is like BF3/4 is

Defib and go

[sullen violet]

Far from 3/4 tbh

[tawny carbon]

The pick up animation. I don’t mind it at all.

It can be better, yes for sure

[fresh lintel]

I don't like the pickup animation or even the "IVE FALLEN AND I CANT GET UP" animations from 5 and 2042.

I know its unrealistic that a defib or needle can revive someone who has a tank shell and half their body riddled with .50cal bullets but like?

I'd rather be a necromancer bringing a corpse to life rather than holding hands with someone and pulling them up.

After a tank shot them.

In the head.

[tawny carbon]

The pick up animation gets up killed a lot tbh. But the last part, it’s a casual shooter. You shouldn’t expect much as terms of logic. Also some certain deaths don’t let you be revived, which should be a standard thing imo

[sullen violet]

Like gameplay wise and feel, bf5 was kind of nice

[sullen violet]

You still just press E right?

On 2042 i mean

[fresh lintel]

Oh I know its a casual shooter, my issue is that it takes away from the experience of me watching some guy getting domed and staying dead.

In 5 I watch a guy burn alive and hes just on his back going "OI CHAPS I NEED HELP" like bro no You DIED

[sullen violet]

in 3/4 you had actual defib item

[tawny carbon]

It’s good but I quit because it’s a historical theme, I always enjoy modern theme games

[sullen violet]

Sorry meant the revive

[tawny carbon]

I’m purely worn out from historical themes

[sullen violet]

Was a decent game

[tawny carbon]

Yes for the pickup on body. But charging up defib bypass that

That’s why I say revive is the same as BF3/4, defib bypass animations

[fresh lintel]

Holding E feels faster and is convenient. You're not locked into walking when holding a defib and can be Somewhat spammed like the old days.

[sullen violet]

I really hope next game will be a great battlefield experience, and not some game ea ceo use as bait for investors

[fresh lintel]

That goes with alot of games. Games need to stop catering to share holders.

[sullen violet]

Unprecedented gameplay, massive this and that

[tawny carbon]

Fax

[sullen violet]

Absolutelly

[tawny carbon]

Cater to the people more than share holders

[sullen violet]

I mean how can they sell if fans of the games dont buy them or like it 🤷

Not positive for shareholders anyway

[tawny carbon]

People buy your game and give you money. Not the share holders

[sullen violet]

I mean, they kind of do too haha

[fresh lintel]

Also game devs need to stop being like Gearbox.

Have any of y'all see what they did with RoR2?

[tawny carbon]

People can ruin rep of the game or people enjoy and like the game to promote it even further, also way more feedback

[sullen violet]

[tawny carbon]

Haven’t played gearbox games in a hot min

[fresh lintel]

Gearbox bought Risk of Rain 2 like a year ago from Hopoo

Im gonna pull out the tweet from Gearbox man

[tawny carbon]

[fresh lintel]

I know its off topic to battlefield but like-

"Tolerated jank" is something that I feel like Battlefield 4/2042's launches felt like*

They made new DLC for RoR2 and apparently its buggy as hell

[tawny carbon]

“this is some jank”

He even pointed it out. Polish it up enough before you drop it, even if it’s delayed by month at most

Quality over quantity

[sullen violet]

Banned 🔨

[fresh lintel]

Lmao

[sullen violet]

[tawny carbon]

[sullen violet]

Is fine. not many people talking and no problem conversation naturally goes off topic sometimes imo, specially if not many people talking

Thats me though

[tawny carbon]

Ik ik

[fresh lintel]

Yeah it does get off topic here and there 🤭

[sullen violet]

Will be kind of mess if many people talk and its just 10 different topic haha

[sullen violet]

[tawny carbon]

It’s the meta

[fresh lintel]

But yeah, I just hope devs can get the time and resources they need to make good games.

And good leadership.

[tawny carbon]

Anyways. That’s why I like Dice for their games. They fix up their shit before anything happens even further. Especially when content drops. If they release a DLC or content of some sort, they will delay it if they have to. Just like they did in 2042.

[sullen violet]

Dice seem to spend decent amount for next game 🤔 🤷

[tawny carbon]

How much time tho

[fresh lintel]

Yeah i'm glad they stayed around with 2042 but I really cannot blame them for just saying "Fuck it" and giving up briefly.

What was it? 6 months of nothing?

[tawny carbon]

I wonder when did they start during 2042 active season support

[tawny carbon]

Yea but it was worth it later on tbh. People didn’t give 2 fucks about 2042 till like S3/4

[sullen violet]

EA has lots of resources so could even have started short time after 2042 was released 🤷

[tawny carbon]

It sucks that it was a slow process tho

[fresh lintel]

Yeah and that's when I started. Season 3. And it was mainly out of curiosity since I havent heard much about it after the whole "This games launch is bad dont buy"

[tawny carbon]

Maybe 🤔

[fresh lintel]

Plus I didnt know it was on gamepass till S3

[tawny carbon]

I enjoy launch days way more than now. Now it’s almost a complete turn around.

[sullen violet]

They improved the game but i still don't feel it's that great overall still. I just play bf4 these days

[tawny carbon]

The chaos is way different when it was on launch

[tawny carbon]

BF4 is still superior

[sullen violet]

Bf3 had better vanilla maps though, but bf4 had great DLC maps

[fresh lintel]

I'm still finding myself only enjoying the Last Stand DLC for 4 tbh but after getting used to the gunplay again: Its fun. I still prefer 2042's gunplay simply due to the modernization

[sullen violet]

Earlier today i saw the tank from 2042, the lowrider one with kind of futuristic cannon. That thing sounds like a beast

[tawny carbon]

Despite BF4 being the most advanced BF game still.
The launch is still the worst in the entire franchise

[sullen violet]

Yeah 2042 is more what should i call it, imersive maybe is the word

Guns feels a bit more alive, kind of like 5

[fresh lintel]

When it comes to the gunplay, its worse technically but I can actually tell easily if i'm hitting targets versus 4's quiet, no visual impact ways

[sullen violet]

I dont remember, soo long ago and i have bad memory

[tawny carbon]

BF4 launch is so bad, they got sued for it. Game was unplayable for months. You join a game just to get insta kicked. It was so bad

[fresh lintel]

I wasn't even in highschool then I dont think

[sullen violet]

Strange i dont remember

[fresh lintel]

So I couldnt afford BF4 lmao

[tawny carbon]

2042 launch was bad but not bad enough to get sued

[tawny carbon]

I match make a game for weeks straight and get play a match more than 1-5 mins

[sullen violet]

rip

[fresh lintel]

Its turn around was nice at least.

Also I have not seen a single uh.. Whats the map with the super massive radar dish that actually got destroyed IRL?

[tawny carbon]

On BF4?

[fresh lintel]

Its the ONE map i have not been able to play in 4

[sullen violet]

Rouge transmission

[tame crow]

we need a full blown Vietnam BF game tho

[fresh lintel]

I wouldnt be surprised if its DLC again

[sullen violet]

Dlc