#battlefield-2042

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arctic grove
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I hate it too, honestly

royal swan
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It keeps giving me discarded

mental delta
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There's even a velociraptor skin now

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šŸ’€

arctic grove
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This is why I don’t understand why people think even two options for some tactibarbie players is just going to fundamentally destroy this operator shtick

fickle wharf
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muh barbie

arctic grove
mortal dove
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Hi guys

fickle wharf
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still the base models are fine and "milsimp"

mental delta
arctic grove
royal swan
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It's going to be a pain to find a good match after the game stops getting content, with the ignorant devs not adding a proper server browser (current one is pathetic and will stay that way) where you could pick and play official servers.

ivory canopy
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Paik maid skin, tier: legendary

mental delta
mortal dove
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I just started bf2042 two weeks ago

ivory canopy
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Where you goin' with that gun of yours?

arctic grove
mental delta
royal swan
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This fucking game is going to make me wait 10 minutes. Fuck discarded remove that map please

ivory canopy
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True, but you never know some goobers would love it.

royal swan
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Stop giving me discarded

arctic grove
fickle wharf
ivory canopy
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Dis Car Ded.

fickle wharf
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only played that map twice

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rest was redact n haven

ivory canopy
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I used the redux CQ map to farm Blasco T1

royal swan
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Redacted was fun

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Haven was ok

vocal tusk
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If 2042 hadnt been a failure on release...I have no doubt that we would have gotten very different skins tho.

royal swan
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Never played reclaimed because this fucking game keeps giving me discarded

arctic grove
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But yeah in general obviously the next bf should function and stuff, I’m just talking about my personal preferences n what not

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Must be able to larp or I ain’t buying

ivory canopy
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Oh, and also

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Faction specific starting weapons

royal swan
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Discarded is so ass on frontlines is not funny. The devs never play test the game I swear

ivory canopy
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Just like BF2/3

mental delta
royal swan
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It's giving me discarded for the fourth time

vocal tusk
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So I really hope that people arent delusional enough to think that the reason we didnt get santa skins is because of player pushback.

We didnt get them because the game was getting dogpiled so much that they couldnt afford to take more hits by going against the wishes of the few 1000 players that were left playing the game.

mental delta
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Factions based guns were cool af imo, do that with 3 guns for each class and then you have to get a certain number of kills with it to unlock it in both factions

royal swan
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Finally I got redacted

ivory canopy
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100 kills to unlock it for the other factions

mental delta
arctic grove
chilly jacinth
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100 kills is 2 games

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thats nothing

vocal tusk
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BF3 did it pretty well. For example the Assault class got M16 on US side, AK on the RU....but you unlocked the all class version at a specific assault class tier.

mental delta
ivory canopy
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Meet you in the middle and do 200

mental delta
mental delta
vocal tusk
chilly jacinth
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yet the ones we got are ass anyways

vocal tusk
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The ones we got are at least mostly on theme.

arctic grove
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I disagree but because similar things happened with V, and DICE actually listened to their players (for like 65-70% of the part)

mental delta
vocal tusk
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they likely account for a lot of the money made in gaming tho...

arctic grove
chilly jacinth
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cod is making billions on skins

patent pivot
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Back in the day, we customize camo skins on aks and M16

arctic grove
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I’ve fallen out with gun skins ngl. At best I might do solid color skins or some type of spray paint

mental delta
mental delta
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I just think one of laziest and most dishonest Dice's behavior with BF2042 is gun customization

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It's bad af imo

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Some skins got more impact o nthe way your gun looks than attachments lol

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No fucking sense

arctic grove
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I prefer actual gun customization so I love stuff like Gunsmith

mental delta
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Me too

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I'd totally prefer a real gunsmith

arctic grove
mental delta
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Maybe not a dense one like COD

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But a real customization thing would much appreciated

mental delta
chilly jacinth
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its so bad in cod

arctic grove
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The CoD one would be fine, no problem there

chilly jacinth
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cause theres only 1 viable build

mental delta
arctic grove
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Some people don’t like how many attachments there are but that’s just bigger visual customization (at least to me this is a plus)

mental delta
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Too many attachements for no fucking reason imo

chilly jacinth
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99% of the shit they have is useless

arctic grove
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There’s some things I’d never advocate for less of in a game, weapons/attachments are two of them

mental delta
arctic grove
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The problem IMO is the UI design

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It makes sorting through them terrible

mental delta
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While with BF2042 you were done with guns after 25 hours lol

arctic grove
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I gotta do some mk18 larping sometimes

arctic grove
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I always hated that ā€œquality over quantityā€ argument cause like, fuck meta load outs, gimmie obscure or lesser known guns I can goof around with lol

patent pivot
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Make them use wacky random guns and attachments

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Which is one positive thing for bots

arctic grove
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They’d end up putting an 8x scope on a shotgun or something ngl

patent pivot
arctic grove
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That gets so boring to me

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Like I get it if there’s that ONE particular player I wanna get revenge on but that’s it CursedCat CursedCat

patent pivot
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Fuck your UCAV mortar meta bs

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Use the APS

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And jamming device

arctic grove
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BF4 mortars were overhated ngl

patent pivot
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Simple change

bitter mulch
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One thing that could really change the gameplay in the next BF would be that you can crawl while downed

chilly jacinth
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you can enable that setting in portal

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and its shit

bitter mulch
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Why not

patent pivot
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Keep that shit in cod, apex, fortnite

bitter mulch
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But why

patent pivot
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It's fucking cringe

bitter mulch
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You could get to safety for medic

patent pivot
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Much more cringe than having tac sprint

bitter mulch
patent pivot
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But slide crouch is still cringe

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Give me back my dolphin dive

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Much better

wide hill
bitter mulch
patent pivot
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Never

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This is unacceptable to me

wide hill
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no chance

bitter mulch
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And what is acceptable for you?

patent pivot
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Remove remove slide croucu

arctic grove
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Only death, no respawns or revives. Gitgud. CursedCat

Nah I’m just playing around

patent pivot
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And maybe squad revive

bitter mulch
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Lets be honest here, BF needs to upgrade the movement, alot od People dont want to Play bf cuz of that

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Its wanky

patent pivot
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Ok

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Whatever

bitter mulch
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What a response wow really

patent pivot
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I only care about BF4 receiving WR project

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It'll be glorious

bitter mulch
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BF4 was not even better than bf3

patent pivot
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That's where WR comes in

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To fix bf4 problems

bitter mulch
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And what is that WR?

patent pivot
bitter mulch
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Mod?

patent pivot
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Yes

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A big one

bitter mulch
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Eh PC only

patent pivot
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You have time.

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If you plan on switching

bitter mulch
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I switched from PC to console and i like it more

patent pivot
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Now that's a new trick...

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Your lost ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

bitter mulch
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Nope

patent pivot
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You seriously don't game on PC anymore?

bitter mulch
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Yes

patent pivot
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You better have good reasons

bitter mulch
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Been on PC 15 years +

patent pivot
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And...?

bitter mulch
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Im more enjoying it playing with a controller than kbm

patent pivot
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... Then use controller for your PC?

bitter mulch
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Its not the same, its better optimised on console

patent pivot
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NEVER

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There are workarounds fixes to make it work on PC

bitter mulch
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it was not cuz of that

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when i made the switch i only played fifa, nothing else and fifa had much bigger playerbase on consoles and it was better

royal swan
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Haven frontlines is lame on the Russian side

spare quest
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True leo

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Never lost as US on haven so far

naive quiver
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Team skill issue

quaint vector
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Why is he sleepin' tho.? CursedCat

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Crawford, Wake up.!

naive quiver
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He means to tell you that it's time to go to bed.

royal swan
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Seriously can't stand these fucking morons

ivory canopy
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Crawford is tired of all this shit

royal swan
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Bro whoever thought discarded was a good frontlines map needs to be demoted from picking maps

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Never let that idiot cook again

fast dirge
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Try Paik with SVK on discarded, you'll make everyone hate you.

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Working strat.

ebon pilot
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I crush squads with the power of Rao hacks

torpid wadi
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I give squads morphine addictions with falck

winter sand
chilly jacinth
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thats the next map coming

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and will def be part of the next event

dense nexus
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servers down?

vocal tusk
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My issue with frontlines is that when you move from the MCOM phase, back to the sector phase...there isnt enough time for a fight so that the "Defending" team has a proper fighting chance of getting back to the sector.

ornate pecan
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Agreed.

vocal tusk
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Its especially bad on discarded because of how far apart the sectors are

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Plus the ship becomes an insane hurdle to fight towards if you get pushed back on either side.

chilly jacinth
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a few more tickets and no vehicles would help

vocal tusk
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I think just no vehicles would help TBH. But its probably hella hard to add and make game modes that are dependent on the current maps.

ebon pilot
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Honestly not sure if no vehicles would completely help since there's a map in the rotation without vehicles and it kinda has the same problem still

vocal tusk
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Redacted has the same problem cos its a mess on that layout. The flanking lanes should be available

royal swan
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Vehicles on the last point I'm ok with

chilly jacinth
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that has the opposite problem of being too cramped

vocal tusk
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You at times have 2 lanes to push through. Its less a factor of skill, and more a factor of chance.

ornate pecan
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Played five or six matches this morning. Got steamrolled by the same team every single time, in about six minutes. Mind you, at least one of them had a macro for continuously toggling crouch, and half my team was saying they were cheating in other ways, too. They were running inside our deployment and killing us more often than not. And then they got a tank. Just kept instantly dying to tank shells every time I spawned.

All the while, that was by far the most toxic lobby I've ever been in, in any game, period. The state of all chat in that lobby was something to behold. The other team was just entirely trolls, continuously taunting, feeding off each other, and even making ||rape jokes.|| That's not what I come to Battlefield for. Never seen that level of childish behavior in Battlefield before.

royal swan
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Pkp goes hard on frontlines

vocal tusk
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It actually annoys me more than it should that modes like TDM and frontlines have persistent servers/map rotations...but conquest doesnt haha. Please let me just sit in a conquest map rotation all evening. Thats all I want.

ornate pecan
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I would have given anything to be in a different lobby than that one. Or at least put me on a different team, once, in six matches?

ebon pilot
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disconnect from the server

vocal tusk
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Did you leave and rejoin?

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If you dont leave, you stay with/against the same teams

royal swan
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Are the rewards for this event switching tomorrow or will it stay the same

vocal tusk
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They probably change, I am not sure tho

ornate pecan
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Problem is, there usually only seems to be one server at any given time. If you don't queue up at the moment a match ends, you're stuck filling a server from scratch, which is a rarity.

vocal tusk
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Thats an educated guess

ornate pecan
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I don't think the rewards will change this time? The event still says 8 days left... In the past, when they've done two week-long stages of an event, I think they've implemented it in-game with two separate week-long countdowns, not a two-week countdown.

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What annoys me is that they've gone back to "earn ribbons in <special event mode>." For a while there, they just had "earn ribbons" and it was really nice.

vocal tusk
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that was only a thing for Redux

ornate pecan
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And of course, now it's earn 100 ribbons instead of 60, and this mode is just...awful.

ornate pecan
vocal tusk
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I did like it too, but I also understand why they choose to make earning them in the limited time mode. Its a double edged sword.

patent pivot
winged bramble
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You all

spare pasture
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Just realized

chilly jacinth
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no

ornate pecan
# drowsy shuttle Why?

Why do I think the mode is awful? Lots of reasons. Spawns are too exposed. Not enough time after defenders deplete the enemy's tickets and clear out the area around their MCOMs to actually push out into the next objective and capture it. The ability for vehicles to bombard spawns, which pairs with the exposed nature of spawns.

glacial quarry
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skill issue

ornate pecan
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Having a tank shell land at your feet within one second of spawning in deployment is not a "skill issue."

glacial quarry
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it is

drowsy shuttle
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Need some tweaks. Still the best battlefield game mode. Vehicles should be available in all sectors

glacial quarry
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its your teammate's skill issue for being in that situation

ornate pecan
chilly jacinth
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attackers dont get vehicles

ornate pecan
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Not sure what to tell you. They had a tank. More than once. Unless someone from our team gave it to them.

chilly jacinth
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probably

ornate pecan
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Figures.

drowsy shuttle
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Player base in general don't know how to play frontlines. No wonder they removed it from bfv

ornate pecan
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Yeah...teams don't understand the need to pile on an objective.

winter sand
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Woops. Not piling on an objective applies to all modes.

slate meadow
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It feels weird knowing this is the last season

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Knowing we will have basically no content after this season but no new game for like two years

acoustic seal
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oh hey it's bf5 all over again

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where they throw out some last minute gunplay updates to piss people off and then leave a huge gap of nothing until the next game

mossy creek
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people aren't ready to buy a new bf if the others are still fresh. generally speaking

drowsy shuttle
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Ac9 its pretty deadly. Might be the best smg

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At least in frontlines slaps damn hard

vocal tusk
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lol did all of these in one game of frontlines

slate meadow
mossy creek
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youtuber memes . meh

slate meadow
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You just don't know because you got like only 100hours played or something

slate meadow
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i cant believe that they havent had this all the time

glacial quarry
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frontlines is amazing

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better than BT imo just wish its 32v32 also

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it should replace BT

slate meadow
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yeah its like a mixture of BT and rush

glacial quarry
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i get so much more kills in FL

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even tho its only 20v20

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easily 50% more than BT

vocal tusk
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More players would ruin it. I hate when players ask for this enmasse

drowsy shuttle
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20 vs 20 is the perfect amount

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Frontlines was never 32vs32 (at least in bf5)

glacial quarry
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problem is in 20v20 one player makes a much larger impact

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or one good squad

drowsy shuttle
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Nope

acoustic seal
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we carry these Ws

glacial quarry
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its just annoying when the enemy team loses in 7 mins cuz we just steamroll them

drowsy shuttle
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Ah in a good squad.. if you team sucks you can go 200-20 score your team still gonna lose the game

glacial quarry
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right @next onyx @untold flower ?

next onyx
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Yep.

glacial quarry
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ig the vehicles defender has makes it better

drowsy shuttle
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But that's another thing.. if you are in a squad with friend and all are good players.. I mean even in BT you going to win most games

glacial quarry
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a lot less

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if i have a 3-4 man op squad i win like 80% of BT games

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but on FL its 100%

drowsy shuttle
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Well different game mode.. and well less people.. but that's the right amount.. not really the games fault if you go pub stomp

glacial quarry
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there was a match i had a few days ago

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enemy team had a sweat clan

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on discarded

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within 5 mins they were at our mcoms

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but i hopped on tank and it turned into a 45min game LOL

vocal tusk
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Average Frontline son Redacted moment

glacial quarry
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eventually half of their clan left

drowsy shuttle
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Game mode needs some tweaks but the player count is the right one.. even makes redacted somehow playable because there's less people

glacial quarry
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i actually 100% agree on the redacted part

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i think maybe a right amount would be 24v24

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redacted is actually so fun on FL

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on BT its a pain

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unless ur defense

drowsy shuttle
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In bf5 I only played frontlines, until they removed it, and the next best thing was breakthrough

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Frontlines in bf5 was fantastic

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But then again bf5, in general, is a superior game

glacial quarry
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since like 2 years ago i only ever play BT on 2042

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and i can say FL is a lot more enjoyable

drowsy shuttle
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Yes it is

glacial quarry
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my kill record on BT is like 160. on FL is 190 still trying to get 200 CursedCat

drowsy shuttle
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Mine is 105 or 110 around that

glacial quarry
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so far my ak5c has only been used on FL so im really curious what my kpm on it is

drowsy shuttle
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Try ac9

glacial quarry
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its prob even higher than vhx

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something with smgs just dont sing well with me

drowsy shuttle
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When I ago ac9 I always go 70-80 kills

glacial quarry
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im not always a close range player

drowsy shuttle
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And I'm not a pro lol

glacial quarry
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ak5c can sometimes 100 to 0 someone 130 meters away in less than a second its insane

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and its amazing in cqb for some reaosn

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my guess is the magazine size and really quiet firing sound with the cqb rounds

drowsy shuttle
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Also I kill a lot with throwing knifes.. the other day I got 38 kills with throwing knifes in a 87 kills match.. discarded.. we lost but was really fun

glacial quarry
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pp29 is superior to ac9 anyway

ebon pilot
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The AK 5C goes extremely well with Rao's hack

drowsy shuttle
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Well but pp29 is not an smg lol

glacial quarry
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reason i don't use smgs is because i play all ranges up to 100m so an AR is better

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but if i had to go cqb

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definitely pp29

drowsy shuttle
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Ak5c is pretty good but I got bored of it after t1 it weeks ago

glacial quarry
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its just so satisfying to use for some reason

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im actually doing better with it than vhx on release lol

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and if u get bored of it

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just slot the high power rounds and u got urself a more accurate and higher rpm scar but with 10 less rounds

ebon pilot
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I like using it as a scar but with subsonic rounds

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And I think the subsonic rounds are still broken so they have the stats of standard rounds or something

glacial quarry
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standard rounds are still like 5 hit no?

ebon pilot
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yeah but if you're shooting someone through smoke it doesn't matter

glacial quarry
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just up to like 100m instead of 75 like cqb

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personally i feel the cqb rounds for ak5c is already REALLY quiet

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it sounds like an smg

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you can empty the whole mag in a flank and no one turns around lol

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*im using wrapped suppressor

ebon pilot
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but not having tracers just makes it even easier to shoot people directly in front of other people and not have them notice

glacial quarry
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lol i didnt even realise rao worked like that

ebon pilot
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NOBODY DOES

glacial quarry
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ive never used rao before my entire life

lethal shuttle
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I can launch the game from the ea app but when I try and launch from steam (where i bought it) it says its launching and then just stops
any ideas?

glacial quarry
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like i know he can see through smoke

kindred flint
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nice no recoil CursedCatPointing

glacial quarry
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but i had the impression you needed to hold and scan for a few seconds

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not instant lol

ebon pilot
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Only for vehicles

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Infantry take half a second

glacial quarry
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lol

ebon pilot
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Gadgets are instant

glacial quarry
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thats kinda funny

ebon pilot
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There's a reason I'm mastery 368 on Rao

kindred flint
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where do you get your ammo doe?

glacial quarry
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i think my only mastery is mackay LOL

ebon pilot
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my ammo? the bodies of my enemies

glacial quarry
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ak5c is like the last rifle u should have ammo problems with

ebon pilot
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or i look if there's an ammo crate on the floor

glacial quarry
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u can literally bring 3 extended mag types

ebon pilot
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yea true

glacial quarry
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if my cqb runs out i just swap to extended HP

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if that also runs out (never happened before to me), then cqb standard 35 rounds

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lol just checked

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mastery 763 on mackay

slender lance
glacial quarry
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i have 11k kills on crawford

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but im at mastery 0 lol

ebon pilot
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im slowly getting there with the mini gun

glacial quarry
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i only use crawford to play tanks

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cuz back then it had the repair passive

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now they're all the same

ebon pilot
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now crawford has ROCKET

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boris is just boring

vocal tusk
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I dont even know what they would need to do to make Boris good. Auto turrets are just so shit to have in games like this. Maybe best solution is to tape him to the rocket on Orbital and fire him into the sun!

glacial quarry
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they just need to give him a better passive

ebon pilot
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change mastery to "enemies killed, spotted, and vehicle damage with turret"

glacial quarry
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boris has the laziest passive ever

vocal tusk
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Passive wont really do anything IMO. The issue is how weak and inconsistent with targetting. ITs why the manually aimed vulkan from Crawford is so superior.

glacial quarry
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maybe give him increased chance to damage vehicle parts or something idk

drowsy shuttle
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Discarded is stalemate.. teams just go from D to E then back to D then back to E.. I had a few games that teams were stuck between these 2 sectors

copper fulcrum
vocal tusk
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Best way to beak it is to deliberately fall back to Mcoms so you get vehicles. Then pull up in an MBT and Brawler. steam roll the other team then.

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I would have done as the devs joked about before. Make the turret a gause cannon, which only targets vehicles. Make it fire faster on target aquisition...and also have decent targetting of air vehicles.

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And get rid of the area of effect thing around the turret. Make is the same effectiveness regardless fo range. He is an engineer, any vehicle getting shot by thing thing is going to fire its cannon straight at it, resulting in your death. (If you play him as they currently expect you to)

junior galleon
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so like a portable c-ram? that shoots laser beams?

vocal tusk
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Na, like the Railgun primary.

junior galleon
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thats what i meant lol sorry

vocal tusk
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Obviously wouldnt have the range a normal railgun has, something like 250m

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But as it has V high velocity, it would be very effective in that rnge. Id also make its health the same as the ranger or higher. If you make it no longer target infantry, there are next to no issues with it having high health.

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Lots of cool things you could do with a turret gadget like this. Like do all of the above, but any infantry shooting it could get spotted like the passive the Brawler already has (As an idea to make there be a cat and mouse element to infantry deciding to shoot/kill it)

kindred flint
vocal tusk
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You see one placed by an enemy player, and know it wont shoot you, but it will shoot your teams vehicles. You can either decide to shoot it and be spotted by the player that placed it, or ignore and allow it to continue (potentially) dealing damage to your vehicles šŸ˜„

patent pivot
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What is this, concept idea time?

vocal tusk
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Its always that time!

patent pivot
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In that case

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gunship

vocal tusk
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*Runs away

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Gunship fix: Scrap both of them, replace with UH-60

patent pivot
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Gunship better

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The OG demon of BF

drowsy shuttle
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I'm always in squads with people that goes 4-20 gaddayum

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Such an easy game. No recoil. Just point and click and get on flags.

glacial quarry
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a lot of players are just casuals with little fps experience

naive ember
fringe spire
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so weird to see the ak5c in bf2042 ... should be a portal gun

arctic grove
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My fellow noobs it is zero hour

fringe spire
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it's a local variant of the FAL ffs

arctic grove
shy viper
acoustic seal
quiet shell
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Interesting way to break frontlines. If you bump a player on an overtimed objective with a casper drone you can break the server

royal swan
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8 more days until the very last map of this game

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Frontlines overall was ok

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The poorest I have seen of frontlines in a bf game but not terrible enough to make me mentally aggressive

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Bf1 is still the king of frontlines

arctic grove
next onyx
quiet shell
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The maps just suck to much to work for frontlines

slate meadow
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they need to fix the amount of vehicles teams get on the last push

green bridge
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Is there a new map coming?

slate meadow
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we just had a none stop back and forth because everytime we got back to there final bomb they had 2 more vehicles again

slate meadow
green bridge
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Frontlines is better then conquest. It should of been in the base game honestly. With 64 and 128 players. Would of been nuts

acoustic seal
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the "not enough to make me mentally aggressive" part

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head injury?

royal swan
acoustic seal
#

regular breakthrough is bad enough to make me monkey smash the desk on occasion, 2042 frontlines is appalling

zealous loom
#

Playing 2042 on Xbox for the first time and like 9/10 maps I’ve played so far have been only Flashpoint WomanYellingAtCat

acoustic seal
#

why does frontlines defense get two tanks? bf1 gave you one light tank and sometimes that was too much

tropic cliff
#

Wasn't there supposed to be a fixed map rotation?

last willow
#

Frontlines is meh

tropic cliff
#

How is Frontlines on Redacted?

#

the game never puts me on that map

green bridge
#

Front lines is better then conquest. I hate being shot in the back.

#

Conquest is always just a mess. You move forward get shot in the back. Theres zero flow.

#

Theres to much going on that no matter how many targets you drop you can’t do jack shit if your team isn’t pulling there own weight

last willow
#

That's.... a battlefield

#

Use your map and be aware lol

#

I find flow in CQ all the time, not EVERY match sure but that's why we love the BF formula

royal swan
#

And it can last the full timer

last willow
royal swan
#

No that would be discarded

last willow
#

Like all meat grinder maps in any BF especially 24/7 high ticket MeTrO servers

royal swan
#

Redacted is more healthy than discarded on frontlines

#

Discarded is just terrible for frontlines

last willow
#

I wouldn't know, I only played two Frontlines matches and lost too many brain cells so I stopped bothering

royal swan
#

Womp womp. It's better than conquest but anything is better than conquest

last willow
#

Well, to each their own! That's what makes BF great

#

In my opinion, BF can survive just fine with JUST Conquest like the old days but hey, been playing since 'Nam lol

#

Now they gotta appease to new players to be like other FPS, oh well, whatever at least we can all pick

winter sand
last willow
#

That was definitely a cool mode

winter sand
#

BF was all about being the largest battlefield areas and that mode really made it more like a realistic Operation theater type battle. Where a battle might drag on for weeks/months.

#

Really the idea came from BF1 and the linked maps and evolved into BF5's concept

next onyx
acoustic seal
#

flat open field ass maps with absolutely nothing for 200m between flags

last willow
#

NOT 2042 maps lol

#

We basically pretend 2042 isn't BF

#

Latest BF is still V for me lmao

acoustic seal
#

5 was... not quite as bad

#

i guess

#

map quality has been a slow downhill slide since bf1 tsar dlc

next onyx
#

2042 is under bf1 for me but it still has what makes a battlefield game play wise.

glacial quarry
#

but honestly i have a very great experience on discarded usually. farm fest for me esp on the last objective

#

The one where u have to plant bombs in the ship. get to the top of the side facing enemy spawn and just shoot them as they zipline up

#

turkey shoot spot

slate meadow
#

Out of the 700hours I've played I have fully enjoyed 90% of it but I wouldn't could 2042 a traditional bf game

#

If it launched as it's own brand new i.p I think it wouldn't get as much hate

next onyx
#

If the characters didn't have a name associated with them people wouldn't be calling the game a hero shooter.

slate meadow
#

But because they doped everyone with the " love letter to bf players"

next onyx
#

Love letter alright. Bf4 launch levels of instability.

next onyx
#

I don't wish to be disingenuous cause the game didn't intend to come out like this.

slate meadow
#

But unfortunately it did

#

And dice and ea new what it was going to be like

#

They should have said 6months more

next onyx
#

And it makes me all the sadder cause in the talks I've had. The devs pretty much give off "we wish we had more time working on this game"

slate meadow
#

Just typical modern day gaming issues

next onyx
#

I love games forced to be rushed.

#

I love it when the higher ups destroy credibility.

slate meadow
#

Same means you can get them really cheap from cdkeys and then wait until they get fixed

next onyx
#

I was being sarcastic.

slate meadow
#

It's the only thing f076 was good for

#

Teaching me never to ore order or pay full price ever again

next onyx
#

I don't wish for a game to come out like shit. I don't wish for higher ups to fuck with the game.

#

Nobody wants that.

slate meadow
#

I know

#

I mean tbh if dice have another bad bf game I don't know if the franchise can go on

next onyx
#

People dumped on bf5 and they still made another one.

#

Different circumstances but still.

slate meadow
#

Yeah but bf5 came after bf1

#

And bf1 was the last good game dice made

next onyx
#

Ehhh

#

I'll leave it at that.

slate meadow
#

Don't give me oh bf1 had weird game play mechanics

#

Yes it did but the game was goated

next onyx
#

It was a game full of frustrating cheese.

slate meadow
#

People bought bfv on the back of how good bf1 was

next onyx
#

Bf5 was more consistent gameplay wise than bf1 was to me.

slate meadow
#

Yeah but bfv was a dead start

next onyx
#

No sweet spots, no gas. The most annoying thing was some dude using an mmg.

slate meadow
#

That guy literally told people not to buy it 🤣

next onyx
#

It wasn't really that dead of a start.

slate meadow
#

Sunderland or whatever his name was

#

But it didn't hit the numbers they wanted it to

#

Same as bf2042

next onyx
#

Yeah he was right. If you don't like it. Don't buy it.

#

Sorry I'm dozing off trying to wait for me to be called.

slate meadow
#

Called for what?

next onyx
#

I don't agree with him insulting the player base though. He should have stopped at just don't like it don't buy it.

#

Just waiting to be called up.

slate meadow
#

Called up where?

next onyx
#

His idiocy was caught on by dumbass grifters.

#

I don't really have to say.

next onyx
slate meadow
#

A huge tease lol

next onyx
#

Uhuh.

slate meadow
#

And yeah he unfortunately gave them alot of tinder for the fire

#

He left after that though right?

#

Wasn't he the same guy who brought in the loot boxes for bf2?

next onyx
#

Bf5 and 76 were what really gave grifters in the gaming sphere a jump start to their careers.

#

No?

slate meadow
#

Oh thought he was

next onyx
#

I could be wrong.

slate meadow
#

Yeah I mean nms had a really bad launch

#

But as it wasn't a live service game it kind of got a pass

next onyx
#

It got free content that's pretty live servicey to me.

slate meadow
#

It feels like whenever dice get a game finally in a good playing state and somewhat good they end up pulling the plug on it

#

I love nms

next onyx
#

Well I guess live service is where they're in there every step of the way.

slate meadow
#

Are you in hospital?

#

That's why your waiting to be called up

next onyx
#

No.

slate meadow
#

It's the only rational thing I can think of

#

Do you think the next game they will stick with classes having special " abilities" ( tech stuff) ?

#

Hmm wait your Australia or something aren't you

#

What time is it there

ebon pilot
#

They've done class specific tech for a while

#

Specialist gadgets and traits didn't appear out of thin air

#

I'm thinking they'll continue to refine the specialist concept, but less in the direction of specific characters.

next onyx
#

Nobody acknowledges archetypes.

ebon pilot
#

probably because it's cut content

#

but combat roles in V are still reminiscent of specialists in 2042.

#

all you're missing is the gadget with the role

#

so if each role in V was given a specific gadget it'd basically be 2042 specialists but without the characters

next onyx
#

Archetypes were more related to specialists than combat roles.

acoustic seal
vital quail
patent pivot
#

I think?

vital quail
#

Crawfords trait is 1 extra rocket while in bf3 you could get 9 fucking smaw rockets

patent pivot
#

Bat shit insane

vital quail
#

And in bf4 it went up to 7 for all launchers

spare pasture
#

Were we supposed to get squad points for power weapons like in bfv

next onyx
#

Not really.

spare pasture
vital quail
#

Nothing like having a squad leader not get a single kill the last 10 minutes of a match but still give orders

patent path
#

just like real life then

chilly jacinth
#

#realism

naive quiver
#

just like real life then

azure zenith
#

So capdaddyhind was cheating to prove the EA Anticheat doesn't work or just because? Lol 🤣

spare pasture
#

1 week till stadiumSadHampter

supple eagle
#

anything new today?

quaint vector
#

New Weekly Missions

untold flower
#

@robust vapor @glacial quarry i scalded my hands

spare pasture
ancient peak
#

Honse

fringe spire
obsidian tide
#

For one can load certain tables in spite of it.

uneven ibexBOT
glacial quarry
#

@untold flower @robust vapor

untold flower
robust vapor
#

at school sir

spare pasture
#

nerd

ivory canopy
#

I'm going to be on a business trip when Stadium drops.

#

But I should be back late that Thursday to play it.

#

But if the DFR is 3 weeks from now out, I'm definitely going to have the other LMGs T1 by then

spare pasture
#

I just got the don’t die once in hazard zone trophy with a only one other personšŸ’ŖChefKiss

next isle
#

Report through EA instead. We can't help here

pearl ridge
#

Okay so there’s some level 60 dropkick running around on OCE now with a suspiciously good K/D and an attitude toxic enough to strip paint

#

Mackay main of course

#

Literally always Mackay with these shitters.

ancient peak
#

Mackay/sundance/falck

#

Metasweats

pearl ridge
#

He also called me out specifically despite my never having spoken a word to or about him?

#

Considering his relatively low level and gameplay behaviour, I have the sneaking feeling this guy’s ban evading.

#

I mean really, I have literally no idea who he is and he takes the time out of his fucking 100/12 kill streak to call me out specifically

#

So that means we have to have prior history

fickle wharf
#

literally WHO

pearl ridge
#

I mean I can’t really identify him directly because we have a rule against naming and shaming here

#

So I just stick with the (perplexed) shaming

spare pasture
#

I love it when I literally shoot an enemy for it to not work because the enemy had the mcs-880

next onyx
chilly jacinth
#

just noticed that GOL has a trigger delay

#

for some reason

next onyx
#

They killed persistent servers for frontlines.

#

They killed the one good fucking thing about it.

chilly jacinth
#

why though

next onyx
#

Cause whoever did it doesn't like fun.

bitter mulch
#

how is frontlines on flashpoint?

next onyx
#

It's alright.

#

Things would be better if the servers were player persistent instead of randomly fragmenting whatever is left of the previous match to random lobbies.

vocal tusk
# next onyx Nice.

Do you play in HDR, or is the end of round scoreboard always this washed out?

next onyx
#

It's the opacity.

#

Plus everyone's dead so they're all grayed out.

vocal tusk
#

Its an opacity you have set, or it just looks like this?

next onyx
#

It just looks like this.

pearl ridge
#

Why do they keep putting all these new modes on Discarded anyway

#

That map is never good with them

robust vapor
#

when you spawn in a helo on Reclaimed and everyone in the enemy team respawns as Lis

ivory canopy
#

I'm surprised that actually happens for you. I can't say I've ever seen that.

chilly jacinth
#

it happens

#

but not very often against air vehicles

untold flower
#

@glacial quarry epic last few games

glacial quarry
#

flashpoint and haven are like the worst maps for FL

#

full of camping spots

untold flower
glacial quarry
#

even discarded is unironically better

untold flower
#

bruh its just our team

glacial quarry
#

at least discarded is more open

untold flower
#

noot we spent so much time on the point @glacial quarry

#

just our squad

#

the no 1 spot was deserved

robust vapor
#

eh I think servers are screwed now

#

people getting DCed

next onyx
#

They aren't even persistent.

spare pasture
robust vapor
#

:C

remote kiln
quaint vector
#

Not important at all IMO

glacial quarry
#

lol no one will care

#

everyone still gonna play what they want

quaint vector
#

Yup

still vault
#

If it helps even a little it's a good change.

#

I could imagine it leading to further UI development. If nothing else, it can perhaps help test things out for future games.

#

Imagine if they combine it with small XP boosts for under-utilized classes

dusty sparrow
#

šŸ‘‹

still vault
#

Just like some MOBA games do where they give boosts to tanks / healers if too few people play them

tawny carbon
#

People complain about engineers. Yet you have a #20 in the bracketCursedCat

chilly jacinth
#

ive seen a massive uptick in engineers

#

and a massive decline in medics

uneven ibexBOT
naive ember
#

Medics don't exist anymore

robust vapor
naive ember
#

Need a scoreboard for dc to make clans think twice about rage quitting before a loss

spare pasture
#

512 hours

chilly jacinth
#

you can just look at their played matches i think

still vault
#

Play more 2042 duck šŸ™‚

robust vapor
# still vault

you just can't tell me that and I get disconnected from the game

#

:C

still vault
#

Omg, did I create The Duck of Disconnect

dire hawk
#

2nd place

chilly jacinth
#

1st place was really boring

spare quest
#

I wish i got into servers with blind enemies like those in the clips

slender lance
#

lol right everyone I’ve been in has been saving private sweatfest

drowsy shuttle
#

Frontlines is the same maps this week?

#

Or they changed it?

chilly jacinth
#

nothing has changed

#

except no persistent servers

#

for some reason

spare quest
drowsy shuttle
spare pasture
fading hawk
#

I don’t understand why we never got a water map. This new season would’ve been the perfect opportunity to release it.

molten tinsel
#

life = water

#

we are water

chilly jacinth
#

there are no vehicles for water

#

so you get one guess why

drowsy shuttle
#

"Water can crash or water can flow. Be water my friend"

patent pivot
spare pasture
#

My doctor just diagnosed me with stage 2 2042

willow sky
mental delta
willow sky
patent pivot
#

Bot is in the game, so that means they'll be brought over to the next game ...

mental delta
#

So it doesn't work

spare pasture
mental delta
#

They won't repeat the same error twice

#

Won't they ?

patent pivot
#

Bold of you to assume next game will have better voice acting

mental delta
patent pivot
#

Bold

spare quest
mental delta
patent pivot
#

Who the fuck

mental delta
mental delta
patent pivot
#

Idk

#

Who cares

spare quest
#

Taylor swift?

mental delta
#

I see her face on Twitter enough

mental delta
#

Seems like it ? Happy with it ? It's all your fault

spare quest
#

Joe Biden character CloseCat

mental delta
#

You should have bought more skins

mental delta
#

You got plenty of time to do so, it won't come out before 2025

#

Inshallah

patent pivot
#

Watch

#

Next BF game will recommend nvme SSD

#

At this point

#

Nvidia is now only for productivity

#

Aka AI

slender lance
#

I’m ready for a rig

violet otter
#

I am not ready

mental delta
#

Like elections are rigged ?

slender lance
#

Old computer slang šŸ˜‚

#

It means computer

mental delta
#

So it ain't about elections which are rigged ?

#

Sad Crabs ngl 🄲

slender lance
quaint vector
#

Forcing myself to play Frontlines again and once again I can't have team that take the flag even 1 time...

#

What a fun this is....

mental delta
quaint vector
#

I would rather play Rush XL instead of this.. NotLikeThis

naive quiver
#

Hmm 9/10 failed when I played frontlines

wispy oar
#

fixed ERROR 1:468882297O:-4685921B

unbelievable

after testing on latest windows build it works, after basically rebuilding whole new os app by app setting by setting ( i have dual boot ) i come back to current not working os and DISABLE firewall and it works ..... speechless i had to go out and take a walk

AND first thing i tried was to delete all game and AEAC entries from firewall and let them be reentered after repair/reinstall

apparently something is broken in windows firewall, but now that i know what it is i will fix it, HOWEVER it did happen right after 7.0 and later in BFV while other games still work, so under certain conditions defender+firewall+uefi EAAC can get bugged in FW, IF previously installed

mental delta
quaint vector
#

Game just started...

#

Noone can even get on the objective

#

New round... Flag got capped by enemy team instantly again

#

How are people supposed to play this then.?NotLikeThis

glacial quarry
#

flashpoint is dumb af

#

for FL. the points are so far apart

#

by the time your team gets there enemy secured it already

quaint vector
#

I just quit for today... its too much frustration for nothing

mental delta
fringe spire
#

Like I'd be solo engineer

quaint vector
#

All we could have is to collect ribbons on any game mode, not to tie it to Frontlines that like 80% of people don't enjoy

fringe spire
#

We blew up one of the 2 objectives, then we just kept bouncing back and forth

#

Everytime both vehicles never fell

quiet shell
robust vapor
lone void
#

Bro got the same achievement twice, gg

#

D0k moment

robust vapor
#

d0k moment

lone void
#

I agree with Crawford

#

"Ahh, yeess" šŸ—£ļø šŸ—£ļø

patent path
spare pasture
#

I’ve come to realize that the only way to guarantee enjoyment in a battlefield game is to play the meat grinder map

merry crypt
#

Fellas quick question

#

If a teammate steals your gun while you died and revives you, do you exchange guns?

#

Cause I went DM7 to Avancy

spare pasture
#

šŸ‘

merry crypt
#

Ah

vocal tusk
#

🤣

mental delta
#

It's just fun

#

Watching them get surprised because some prick stole their gun with a 10€ skin

merry crypt
#

It's so rare to see people steal guns anymore I forgot you could do that

#

Ever since classes didn't get swapped with the gun

plush echo
#

Evening no pats

vocal tusk
#

No need for it in this game, cos they give you 3 ammo types and easy ways to get ammo.

merry crypt
#

Yeah

#

Still saddening I can't swap to medic to revive someone then go back to playing something else

#

Unless Angel crate

vocal tusk
#

Can you even do that at an angel crate anymore?

#

I dont think you can change class/specialist

merry crypt
#

Want me to quickly test that?

mental delta
merry crypt
#

Damn

#

Changed it then

crude wave
merry crypt
#

Can't say that when your pfp is even more fire

crude wave
#

Your kenough bro

drowsy shuttle
#

What's the best buckshot for the mcs? Is still the #4?

crude wave
#

My pfp is literally you

merry crypt
ebon pilot
merry crypt
#

Prob was too much effort to change the specialist on the fly

next onyx
chilly jacinth
#

ive seen some absolute abominations

#

when picking up guns

outer saddle
#

the game literally makes my pc restart when i start does it do it to anyone else?

outer saddle
patent pivot
#

your PSU

chilly jacinth
#

your PSU trips its over power protection

outer saddle
#

it wasnt doing that before

chilly jacinth
#

ok and

outer saddle
#

nothing changed since yesterday

#

so idk why the f would it do that

vocal tusk
#

Oh yeah...frontlines is no longer persistent servers. Damn.

next onyx
outer saddle
#

thats really weird

next onyx
#

That was one of the biggest things for me considering OCE stuff.

vocal tusk
#

Boris skin is pretty cool. Pity they are an irrelivant specialist šŸ˜„

next onyx
#

If dice are so concerned over retention why are they screwing us like this.

outer saddle
patent pivot
#

something is pulling more power....

next onyx
#

Limit your power draw.

#

There should be logs.

outer saddle
#

i got it on steam

vocal tusk
next onyx
#

Yeah I've had dead lobbies there too.

#

But not as many times as this.

#

This auto ending system is so shit.

outer saddle
# next onyx There should be logs.

its weird because it started doing that do my friend to and it wasnt doint that yesterday and the only thing we installed was gold with ur friends so idk why NOW the game would take more power thats weird

vocal tusk
#

Its a real pity...cos having persistent lobbies is the one thing I want them to add before fully dropping suppoort for 2042. But with all the issues that still happen, its hard to see it happening

severe oyster
#

so when is daddyhind and luke gonna be banned? they are both cheaters and they been hacking all day long in 128 lobbies

vocal tusk
#

Doesnt concern this server

naive quiver
#

I feels like boris moves and aims much faster than before

vocal tusk
#

Players reports do not belong here

kindred flint
#

72-13 using g248 for 20 kills/assists then RPK as blasco on redacted leo and still we lost by 200 because my team was fucking garbage at not dying

vocal tusk
#

Having known cheats only helps the devs, cos they can know 100% for sure that they are hacking...look at logs from their games and identify the hacks in use, add them to detection systems to log other users.

kindred flint
#

legit 2-2 caps for 95% of the match and we just bleed tickets like mad...also no ammo for my rpk SadHampter

vocal tusk
#

Banning 2 users does little for the game at large...but using those 2 known cheaters to identify 100s of others will be a good thing.

#

That being said, they are sad losers lmao

#

Imagine being so bad you need to cheat šŸ˜„

kindred flint
#

i wish some of my team had cheats ..then we wouldnt have been fucking steamrolled CursedCatPointing

chilly jacinth
#

nice first game on

#

some asshole griefs me with c5 on our brawler

kindred flint
next onyx
#

My favourite hacker moment was when gemini was exposed someone in my region named themselves geminihacksoff and was at the bottom of the scoreboard.

serene crag
#

i cant seem to play bf2042 with a dual sense controller.. any fixes?

chilly jacinth
#

enable steam input

serene crag
#

@chilly jacinth does it work for u?

chilly jacinth
#

i dont use a controller

serene crag
#

DOESNT WORK

chilly jacinth
#

did you restart the game

patent pivot
vocal tusk
#

IIRC unless you want to go through with a tonne of hassle, it only works well with a wired connection

velvet sand
#

EA launcher busted for anyone else on PC and refusing to launch at all?

fading hawk
#

Can anyone help me as to how this guy has such fluid movement in the littlebird? Even with rifle aim and flight assist off my shit is delayed af

#

Feels like I’m flying a potato half the time

remote kiln
#

that is an old clip

fading hawk
#

The only way to rid that is to have like 80000m dpi and 100% sens in game but then you can’t aim

remote kiln
#

ashebf recorded that when magnetism for the Heli was pretty weak you can't really do it as freely as that anymore

fading hawk
#

Even with some of the newer vids my guy turns on a dime and my heli takes 4-5 business days to do anything.

#

I’m all for upping my sensivity but then you lose the ability to aim

#

Like a sudden development of Parkinson’s

remote kiln
#

he's got over 800h in it so its second nature for him, realistically if you wanted to attempt it you'd need to up the sensitivity, but you've never going to get the level of precision he's got with the control

fading hawk
#

The flying reminds me of how it was during Battlefield 4

remote kiln
#

he can do it because he knows by instinct where to land the high DPI to control for balance, but it's impossible for people who don't put in the work

fading hawk
chilly jacinth
#

Get a mouse where you can adjust the dpi on the fly

#

Problem solved

fading hawk
robust vapor
chilly jacinth
#

Doesn't do anything so doesn't matter

fading hawk
serene crag
#

okay so i got my ps5 controller to work on steam however its stuck using the xbox inputs, i disabled steam inputs but the inputs broke (clicking R2 is like pressing X & clicking L2 is like pressing O), only 2 that work are enable & default inputs... any fix to this?

chilly jacinth
serene crag
#

ive tried theres no clear answer.. i might just stick witht he xbox inputs for now

chilly jacinth
#

It's probably because you disabled steam input

remote kiln
acoustic seal
#

xinput: keeping pc controller support dogshit since the 2000s sadderfilly

chilly jacinth
#

Just get a superior xbox controller

acoustic seal
#

where is the gyro microsoft

chilly jacinth
#

In the garbage where it belongs

#

The food kind is good though

acoustic seal
#

wouldn't it be funny if they put an accelerometer in the new xbox controller refresh and only used it for the lift-to-wake gimmick? agony

#

we should've killed them in the antitrust suits

acoustic seal
#

it's not hard to improve past what splatoon did, you can screw around with steam input so it only toggles on when you ADS

ebon pilot
#

flick stick is the future

chilly jacinth
#

You think the average joe can handle gyro?

#

They barely handle sticks with assistance

acoustic seal
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we are in fucking trouble if a large portion of the population can't rotate an object in 3d space

acoustic seal
next onyx
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Oh yeah people were malding they finally improved aim assist during season 6.

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Still don't understand that.

chilly jacinth
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Wasn't it actually a nerf to the aimsnap

remote kiln
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not really

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people were annoyed cause DICE didn't explain it properly and implied they were just straight buffing it, when it was more akin to a side fix

plush echo
short hearth
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the worst part is they dont take you out but just damage you enough so that you lose a fire fight

plush echo
merry crypt
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Any servers you know that can help improve aiming?

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Like training

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Cause 100% if that was me I'd have used 11 shots and got 3 hitmarkers

plush echo
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I feel you but the key for me is knowing when to change the scope cuz I used to stubbornly only wanna use x10 scope but now I just adapt to situations and practice aiming for the head as quick as possible. With moving target it’s a bit harder

merry crypt
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For me I use x6 and x1.25 depending on how close people are

plush echo
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I never use below x6 lol

merry crypt
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Don't it's absolutely worthless

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Only reg rifles

plush echo
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Yeah ik, x6 on thermal is enough cuz even close enough you can see them

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Quite easier actually if they are close

merry crypt
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I'll try that then

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Even though I'm more of a short range guy, doesn't hurt to know how to countersnipe

plush echo
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Just remember only aim for the head if you miss take cover and fire again

merry crypt
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Yeah gotta break the habit of centermass shots

plush echo
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Hit markers only reveal your position

merry crypt
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That and being near teammates

plush echo
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Yep

merry crypt
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I'll try it out tmr then

plush echo
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I actually noticed that if I don’t hesdshot a lot of times target just gets away so it’s pointless aiming for the body

merry crypt
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Sometimes I just snipe the ground near enemies so they can waste time avoiding my shots instead of running straight to the objective

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It's not always a bad idea for centermass shots but the best deterant is a dead body

merry crypt
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Yeah people are always so scared to sac themselves so the mere presence of a sniper is enough to hault movement for a while

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Doesn't matter how good

robust vapor
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5 dumbasses

plush echo
robust vapor
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Tnx

merry crypt
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I understand the condor part cause some people can't drive but what the hell happened to the other two

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These the teammates you get when you play frontlines

robust vapor
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Easy way out

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First royal flush in a feed

merry crypt
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I've never seen so many suicides in one go

robust vapor
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You will see them more often on the next 2042 sale with influx of new players

merry crypt
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Lovely

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I can't wait to get rolled because I matched with them on my team

robust vapor
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Diverse playerbase

merry crypt
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Depends on your day

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If the game knows you had a bad day, it'll give you the worst team

plush echo
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I wonder why dice can’t bring back redux

merry crypt
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?

plush echo
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It’s an event

merry crypt
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They should add gambling in 2042

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Not lootcrate gambling

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I mean legit table gambling

plush echo
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Yall like the new map ?

kindred flint
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gambling has been in the game since the launch day?

merry crypt
remote kiln
kindred flint
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its called hitting find server leo

merry crypt
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... True

plush echo
remote kiln
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they'll probably bring it back in rotation between now and at least until the next game id guess, is over a year

plush echo
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Or maybe this summer I’m guessing it’s probable

ivory canopy
merry crypt
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Man I struggle with Paik

ivory canopy
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I have the T1 for Paik

merry crypt
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Damn I don't even have t5 for her

ivory canopy
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I have T1 for most specialists actually

plush echo
merry crypt
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A lot of specialists are easy on redacted

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I just use Paik ability before engaging just to get the extra paik points

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Never used it for walls since the range is very small now

sullen mulch
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idk why i'm always suprised by how bad players are in tdm on this game

merry crypt
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Tdm is always decisive

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Never a close match

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One always dominates over the other

sullen mulch
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has to do with the spawns

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then again its really just this gmae in general

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rather play with bots

merry crypt
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True as long as you know the approx locations of where the spawns are, you can just create a perimeter and always dominate

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Its almost impossible not to do it

arctic grove
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CursedCat hi

merry crypt
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Hello

fast dirge
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So what exactly changed on week 2 of crimson fronts.

next onyx
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Flashpoint & they got rid of player persistent servers.

hazy viper
hazy viper
next onyx
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If there was a proper team balancer things wouldn't be so scuffed.

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LMAO

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I just screwed over a tank.

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I'm trying to get vehicle distruptions done, So I emp'd this tank with little thought. The dude was on a incline DOWN into out of bounds so he literally rolled into there and couldn't get out as it messes with the engine.

cloud crag
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What's the price of discord nitro basic ?