battlefield-2042

[last oar]

Neat

[tidal trail]

The game is dead, bro

[vocal tusk]

there will be no new content (Maps, weapons or vehicles)

[last oar]

I see

[tidal trail]

Just QoL updates at best

[royal swan]

Not yet I'll wait until things actually end

[vocal tusk]

Season 7 has another 2.5 months...then whatever QoL stuff they add after.

[last oar]

Is Battlefield V still lit

[vocal tusk]

Its still OK...if you played it at its launch...it plays very differently now to then

I personally dont like it all that much after the last TTK changes they did.

But its still a good, fun and enjoyable game for the most part

[dire hawk]

I'll admit, the trailer looked pretty dope

[dire hawk]

why ?

[vocal tusk]

Too many weapons are crappy now if you want to be competitive.

[low timber]

Who else saw the Gol Magnum skin in the trailer?

[vocal tusk]

Most SMGs are terrible and/or not viable

[low timber]

It was extremely visible

[spare dust]

Event meme

90% paid skins

[chilly jacinth]

Looks like a generic skin that goes on all the guns

[quaint vector]

I see Sundance skin... So that's insta buy from me..

[mental delta]

All skins are purchasable except 1

Sad

[rose fiber]

Tbh, you only need T1 Sundance skin, the white one, green one which isn't that good tho and Idk if there's one for desert

Tho I rarely bother changing skin based on map

[bitter mulch]

with that kind of system they could really profit in the next game. Skins locked per map. For example a desert map you can only choose skins which are for desert, you cant have a winter skin on a desert map. Milion skins to sell haha

[crimson wasp]

Frontlines!

[rose fiber]

lul. I had similar idea that they could mark all maps with one of 4 biomes (urban, desert, green/jungle, winter) and you could set 1 skin per specialist for each of biome so that you don't have to manually change it

[vocal tusk]

But I want to wear my skin that is a bit on fire when in the snow.

[bitter mulch]

exactly, would be a perfect system tbh....fresh feeling every map

[lilac dust]

https://gyazo.com/0b5d77b13a17305cf085543aa60f037e In this image we see 2042 season 7 cancelled announcements and then a brand new event trailer right next to it all. So weird man. We are gonna be fighting so many damn bots in this event cos so many people won't realize that the game is still getting updates for a little longer thanks to DICE prematurely announcing support being cut

[bitter mulch]

no you dont

[rose fiber]

Keep quiet, they're gonna add cold system and that skin is gonna become p2w

[fervent zodiac]

Just started bf1, and holy fuck I'm in love with it

[rose fiber]

Tho I wonder what it would feel like if winter multiplayer maps would feel like the BFV mission where you have to walk from fire to fire lol

[bitter mulch]

Narvik mission

[rose fiber]

Yeah

[dire hawk]

time code ?

[mental delta]

I don't get why they announced it so early

[lilac dust]

Not to mention it's not doing EA any favours either because a lot less people are going to be buying skins during this event and the next one and just in general

[untold flower]

@robust vapor average match for me when i dont have tep sal pelican or you

[robust vapor]

likewise

each time i play conquest the rest of my squadmates are like somewhere else on the scoreboard

bring back attack helos for BT

[lilac dust]

Ok here's my theory. They wanted an opportunity to sneak the season 7 support being cut announcement in under as big of an announcement as humanly possible. So my guess is the new team (dead space guys) working on the next battlefield was probably going to be the biggest announcement they'd be making for the next year or 2 so they had to sneak it in with that announcement and that's why it was announced so strangely early because they were never going to just make a post specifically talking about support being cut.

It's pathetic, but they always do this shit. They're terrible at communicating and they don't understand that SNEAKING in these announcements result in bigger backlash than if you were just straight up and clear with the community at the perfect time.

[chilly jacinth]

What are you even talking about

[lilac dust]

Do you have any reading comprehension? Like at all?

[chilly jacinth]

Yes and you're living in fantasy land

[lilac dust]

Please elaborate then

[chilly jacinth]

No

[lilac dust]

Then you're an idiot then.

[chilly jacinth]

Feel free to continue

[hybrid totem]

I think it's funny that they're gonna get away with cutting support after a total release of 8 maps.

[patent path]

they are not getting away with anything?

[hybrid totem]

Remind me of that after the next bf release sells as well as it will

[low timber]

~0:33

[dire hawk]

dang you're right

[slate meadow]

so i presume there is no point in saving boins this season as there isnt going to be another pass

[stone cradle]

nah they'll have some cool flashy skins to sell in the events

[sour meadow]

found my next favorite playstyle

blasco + dmrs

post up in center of the map

become toxic

now if only more engineers tried firing at the aircraft that i'm designating, then it'd be heaven

[dire hawk]

yes

[last oar]

"We won't support the game anymore but we'll keep taking your money" is all I hear

[next isle]

Then don't give them your dollars

[chilly jacinth]

Need to keep designating em after they pop flares

[amber kelp]

Its a self fufilling cycle. Noone runs soflam, so noone checks for soflam, so soflam gets nothing done, so noone runs soflam

[sour meadow]

but I run soflam

I /

a forward slash and an italicized I are the same

the I is just slighter smaller

[full burrow]

exactly, people who pay for skins are the reasons devs can focus on fluff instead of content

[mental delta]

They stop supporting for the good cause but it was too early to announce it to me

I'll be honest

I've been waiting for this end of support announcement since season 4

And I'm fucking happy it finally dropped

I've just been asking for that since season 5 even released

BF2042 isn't really my cup of tea and I'm glad they're stopping to support it

However

I hope the announcement is gonna be followed by some infos on what's to come in the franchise next soon enough

[slate meadow]

this was my take aswell as they originally said atleast 4 seasons i thought it was gonna be 4 and done

[mental delta]

Yeah me too like a lot of people, unexpectedly they kept going on

But now the main focus has to be the main game

They have to deliver some fucking good game because it's probably last chance

[slate meadow]

i guess it was more of a lets do afew more so the next game people still might purchase

[mental delta]

I don't think a lot of people understand that we haven't had a critically acclaimed BF game since 2016

[slate meadow]

was that bf1?

[mental delta]

In 8 years only 3 games released and only 1 was majorly appreciated

[mental delta]

Yes

[slate meadow]

yeah tbh bf1 is goated

[mental delta]

It's a good game imo as well

I just think they should take it with BF4 as models

[slate meadow]

people say game play and that sweet spot mechanic is dogshit but tbh its a game that i will always say is worth your time

[mental delta]

Expectations of the community about the next game are high and low at the same time

[slate meadow]

they need to go back to the way they did the enviroments for bf1

[mental delta]

It's objectively a really good game, far from being my favourite for personnal reasons lol but it's really good

[slate meadow]

lets put it this way if i had to pick a game from the last 3 to recommend to somebody i think 1 would be it everytime

again though most people loved bf1 just for the environment and atmosphere

[mental delta]

I agree, it's the most immersive game which came out recently enough

One of the main reasons why BF2042 isn't really my thing is because it has no immersion at all

Setting could have been cool but they didn't make the good choices to make it look good

[ancient peak]

Subjectively immersion only gets me so far. I don’t like BF1s gunplay so I didn’t mesh with it very well. It’s a good game just not one I enjoyed subjectively.

[amber kelp]

1's aesthetics are clearly its best part, but the rest of the game is also very good. It has one of the best sanboxes in the franchise history and IMO its gunplay is underrated.

[amber kelp]

I think sweet spot only works for ww1 and 2. In practice its more of a buff to iron sniping which lets scopeless bolt actions compete against other weapons without being a 1 shot close range.

[patent path]

skinz

[ebon pilot]

Yeah, gameplay matters to me much more than aesthetics and immersion

2042 is fantastic at combining chaos with predictability. It never feels like anything really happens without something else signalling it first.

[vocal tusk]

I think the maps of BF1 make its gameplay a lot better than it would be in the maps of 2042. If that makes sense haha

[patent path]

Argonne Forest my beloved

[acoustic seal]

2042 maps

the only one that's kind of predictable is spearhead and the rest are a crapshoot

[slate meadow]

yeah running in those trenches can be insane

[hearty kiln]

Any news when the stealth bomber vehicle is getting released?

[vocal tusk]

Update 7.2 in May

[amber kelp]

I also think the weapon sandbox helps as well. Theres little to no ARs so everyone has strong strengths and weaknesses

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, that makes sense too.

[hearty kiln]

Not too long then cool

[vocal tusk]

ARs on all classes makes variety of weapons encountered pretty rubbish in 2042

Comapred to past games that is

[hearty kiln]

The last vehicles i have not t1 are the stealth helis and the jets. And ranger 😅

[amber kelp]

I wonder how it would play out if there was an AR class that just had no gadgets or only 1.
That way it bakes a weakness into the weapon without actually making ARs bad

[hearty kiln]

Gives me a month before new vehicle to hopefully t1 the stealth helis

[ebon pilot]

most people would play the class for ARs

[hearty kiln]

Theyre so squishy though you get prqctically no time to react to certain threats

[violet otter]

I’m pretty much always using an AR besides playing recon

[hearty kiln]

I use lmgs mostly, i just like prefiring people for 200 rounds lol

[amber kelp]

I think there could be a way to make the other options more appealing. I dont think "everyone will pick ARs" is completely set in stone

[ebon pilot]

that's what happened in most other games

people pick meta weapons

[amber kelp]

It is, yes. I just dont think its insurmountable. If the AR class cant heal, cant deal with armor, cant resupply, and cant spot it may do the trick.
Of course, thats assuming you dont want them to be too common. You may want one class to be more popular for one reason or another, so giving them an AR could be a good tool for that

[vocal tusk]

Other games also had a much more diverse combined arms gameplay loop. To the point that engineers (For example) didnt mind only having SMGs/carbines/shotguns in BF4, because their main role was killing vehicles, or being in/repairing their teams vehicles.

[violet otter]

I like having the weapons restricted to classes I think.

[vocal tusk]

If you locked 2042 to only have SMGs on engineers...you just wouldnt have any engineers cos the infantry > vehicle meta is so weak

[ebon pilot]

we don't have any engineers anyway!

[amber kelp]

I do to. I like restrictions, it makes decisions more interesting

[vocal tusk]

Same

[ebon pilot]

I don't like being told how I have to play the game

[vocal tusk]

Jesus this games loadout system was a mess at launch...any weapon, and gadget on any specialist haha

[hearty kiln]

Idk, i feel air vehicles>infantry, but infantry<ground vehicles

[vocal tusk]

WTF were they thinking, honestly

[ebon pilot]

it was awesome

unless you were a vehicle player

[amber kelp]

the cynic in me wants to say it was to make weapons skins sell more

[vocal tusk]

It was shit for everyone. You never knew what any other player was equipped with, or their capabilities at any time

[amber kelp]

my problem was that it made every specialist feel the same.

[hearty kiln]

Tanks etc get obliterated by a coordinated team of intfatnry. Air vehicles have maintained the same place where the skill gap of air vehicles prevents a lot of people from understanding the counters as infantry. If Rao and solamente were still common, it would be more eveb

Soflam

[violet otter]

Yeah I’m no good with the planes

I don’t mind doing repairs and blowing them up though

[full burrow]

balance on air vehicles is shite, its just to easy for them to get away and reset

lock on from launchers gets thrown off to easy (while aiming to get a lock), range is shit, air vehicles can get out of range very quickly, the sky ceiling is huge, they can go outside of the map from the sides too and hide

[hearty kiln]

Its always been that way, unfortunately. Thats why i decided in bf3 to git gud at flying lol

[chilly jacinth]

flares being a get out of jail free card is fair

[hearty kiln]

2042 has a problem w trees/little cover blocking lock ons too essily though, small branches of trees shouldnt interrupt soflam designation/other locks

[robust vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIVRzxg9z_c

DiscoField

[hearty kiln]

Looks normal to me

[robust vapor]

[fiery shoal]

needs a seizure warning fr

[robust vapor]

Oop :x

[patent path]

fried gpu

[vague horizon]

ngl this is actually cool

[patent kelp]

Where my LMGs at?

[full burrow]

well that was a first, just used an invisible zipline

[modest ivy]

eyy

[quaint vector]

More 139 Levels to go...

[patent path]

cool, now can we have more vault weapons

[quaint vector]

No more content = No more Vault Weapons

I wish we would see S8, but I don't wanted new Vault Weapons so its good that it would not be added

[patent path]

technically not new content

I just want the xm8 and the AUG in AOW

[ebon pilot]

i was wondering about that from the trailer. are they actually going to make vault weapon skins now?

[patent path]

just the one

[modest ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[daring mango]

hi~~

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-you-are-a-nerd-geek-dork-no-social-skills-gif-27276712

[waxen turret]

Who else thinks the next Battlefield will be called "Battlefield 7" because season 7 is the last season :)?

[full burrow]

more like Battleskins

[strong snow]

Deleted 2042, now I wait for the new one

[torpid wadi]

That’s certainly a theory

[next isle]

It will be called

[violet otter]

You might be waiting a while

[strong snow]

2025 rumored

[violet otter]

Yeah at least a year and a half waiting

[naive quiver]

Maybe delayed until 2026

[patent path]

nah it's out tomorrow haven't you heard

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-smirk-shrek-sus-shrek-smile-gif-4983018699107868283

[amber kelp]

Pre orders already have access. This is the best BF game ever made

I love BF6

[tiny imp]

I have no high hope for next bf tbh. It will be like battlefield 2042 verison 2.0 probably

with battle royal

[dusty sparrow]

Sup duckies

[arctic grove]

hello fellow duck

[stone cradle]

end of support so no

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/the-world-of-battlefield-2042/arkangel-reports

[patent path]

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

it's the bf3 lad

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield3-gif-5209717

[patent path]

[arctic grove]

battlefield shouldnt have a battlepass

[stone cradle]

I mean it's cosmetic only

No content is locked behind it

[full burrow]

well they did have a habit of putting OP weapons in the battlepass which owners unlock faster right, and then taking a very long time to patch those weapons

so there was a disting advantage for some time

[stone cradle]

Oh yeah, pretty bad with the VHX on launch with S6

[full burrow]

avancys was busted too if i remember correctly

also redacted is such a braindead map, its chaotic for sure but very braindead

[arctic grove]

invite jackfrags he will make a good battlefield game

[arctic grove]

if you play it on solo with a mg you can just farm kills

thats how i gained like 9 levels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7D_qSuQRSM go to 6:10

any weapon will work actually

[stone cradle]

That's every meatgrinder map

Locker and metro etc

[crisp pumice]

If they do have one it shouldn't expire

[stone cradle]

Halo approach would be cool

[arctic grove]

if they add battlepass in next battlefield game same thing will happen as 2042 cancelled

[crisp pumice]

True

I will say this tho

It's not as bad as loot boxes

[arctic grove]

battlefield is not a battlepass game

[crisp pumice]

I prefer season passes over the loot boxes any time

[rotund kite]

Majority of bf2042 development was making it a battle royal, that's why the outta place battlepass lol

[remote kiln]

dumb thing to say lol

[crisp pumice]

People won't care if there is one

They just gotta make a battlefield game,

[arctic grove]

every game make remastered

[full burrow]

to be fair a lot of people are sick of microtranasctions in any form, and while it is fully acceptable in free to play games it definitely feels out of place in a paid game

[arctic grove]

bf4 makes me very sexy

[crisp pumice]

Make a fun game = people play fun game and they don't care if there are season passes or not

[arctic grove]

yeah lmao

people gotta learn people play games cuz theyre fun

not cuz of battlepasses or microtransactions or anything

[full burrow]

imagine charging full price for a game and then every time you open it it asked you buy a battlepass

[rotund kite]

Yeah, but I still prefer battle packs like in bf4
But the weekly challenges of the battle pass are fun, but I think you should only unlock skins from them

[arctic grove]

i mean, its reall cool to see what is has to offer

we play to kill not to win smh

[rotund kite]

Not in game weapons, for a solid week after season begins it's pay to win game with whoever buys the battlepass can obliterate you with the op weapons lol

[full burrow]

yeah but they way 2042 did it is wrong imo, having it in the store or even a window in the main menu sure, but you cant do anything until you close the window that opens every time you launch and covers the whole screen

[crisp pumice]

Remember when riot had a bunch of drama about work conditions? No? Same...

[crisp pumice]

No one talks about it because they make good games

But blizzard....

[full burrow]

and I prefer to win than kill xD

[crisp pumice]

They don't make as good of games and people talk about everything bad

[shy viper]

I like it when a full game is released and then DLC packs are released quarterly and there is no other form of MTX

[cosmic dragon]

im done with the franchise lmao

[crisp pumice]

I prefer having fun over winning 🗿

[cosmic dragon]

i got bf3 rm and battlebit

[crisp pumice]

I gave up after Bf5 was cancelled

[cosmic dragon]

do you own 2042?

[crisp pumice]

Saw others play the beta and said nah

[arctic grove]

trailers? top notch
game? not too shabby but not good

[crisp pumice]

A triple a game company with no score board

[arctic grove]

I justify premium as a sort of service, you do pay full price for a game when it’s new, but you know what? You get a buncha shit to do for like 20 dollars over the next year, with each DLC spaced out about 3 months

People have just as much money to spend on way less in the form of skins, they can afford premium, let’s be real

[stone cradle]

That would be severely unprofitable

[cosmic dragon]

what they should do is actually have a decent plan adn shit already made for future seasons

but eh im not ea

[arctic grove]

Either premium or an actually decent live service model where it’s not an excuse to release a game broken then work on it to an acceptable state

[cosmic dragon]

this is how 2042 shouldve released

[arctic grove]

I don’t think so only because the best selling Battlefield game also used this system

[cosmic dragon]

but they just fixed the game and dipped

[arctic grove]

Also the battlefield games we all grew up with were using them tbh, live service is a newer industry thing

[cosmic dragon]

live service games are so ass

[shy viper]

I don't care about EA's profits, I care about whether the game is good or not, the model I prefer lends itself more to games being made good to begin with

[cosmic dragon]

or just the live service model

[stone cradle]

Maybe then, but not now with how expensive game dev has gotten

[arctic grove]

The only time premium really split player bases was when people picked up the game 3 years later to find out premium was still being sold full price, which definitely isn’t a great deal. Premium should be included in post support editions of the game and it’d be fine

[full burrow]

the old system of expansions or the premium expansion pass was the best - only most popular counter argument is that it splits the population but that only becomes a real factor YEARS later, at which point it can all be heavility discounted anyway

[arctic grove]

^ true

[stone cradle]

I don't care about EA profits
Well you can say bye bye to BF then, because the moment they don't deem it profitable at all, they'll scrap it.

[shy viper]

What a stupid reply

[shy viper]

Yup

[cosmic dragon]

basic solutions but ea doesnt see that because all they see is the green paper

[stone cradle]

not stupid, I'm being realistic

[arctic grove]

Corporations are very touchy with money anyway, vanguard failed to meet activations goals but sold 30 million copies

[cosmic dragon]

ea is like watching a gambling addict on a slot machine

[patent path]

gamers don't understand economics, don't even try

[cosmic dragon]

because its broken

[cosmic dragon]

i dont need to

[stone cradle]

That's still good

[full burrow]

if the base game is solid then thats plenty of enjoyment for people. I understand not every had money to keep spending but some things are worth paying for, at the end of the day you get what you pay for, and again if they base game is solid then people who cant afford the new content straight away still have plenty of enjoyment to be had and can pick it up later on sales

[stone cradle]

30 million potential people playing MP + Warzone

Many more people buying passes and other mtx

[arctic grove]

True, what I mean is it’s good but somehow not activisions goals, therefore EA could deem BF non profitable way sooner

[stone cradle]

If COD had no mtx and Warzone didn't exist, then yeah, I'd call it bad

[shy viper]

No, stupid, and also bootlickery

[stone cradle]

Gamers when I tell them how expensive games are getting these days (over 400mill) and why we can't have games with 'No mtx or battle passes' (I'm being stupid and a bootlicker)

[stone cradle]

Damn I predicted what you were going to say

[cosmic dragon]

im a pirate

arr

[stone cradle]

damn you can pirate 2042?

[cosmic dragon]

no

i pirate games i cant pay for

[shy viper]

The best post launch content drop was Diablo 1 Hellfire

[stone cradle]

Then why the response?

[cosmic dragon]

which is anything over 50 quid

[full burrow]

how much of that 400mil is to pay developers and how much is nothing but fancy marketing

[cosmic dragon]

im not broke

[cosmic dragon]

95%

[mental delta]

Not me lol, I won't let Dice get away with this crap ass game BF2042 (I got 500 hours on it), they won't be safe until I get a good game

[shy viper]

Damn I predicted you were going to say this

[mental delta]

[shy viper]

[cosmic dragon]

real

[stone cradle]

Not much probably.

[full burrow]

youre telling me nearly 400mil was paid to 2042 developers in salary?

[cosmic dragon]

i got 600 hours and im in an abusive relationship with it

[cosmic dragon]

advertising

[full burrow]

oooohhh ok

[cosmic dragon]

i dont like the game but i play it

[full burrow]

I thought you meant devs got it

[cosmic dragon]

nah

[arctic grove]

Had to drop it after 300 when stupid shit like the recoil bug kept popping up and persisting, and just how much is missing from it

[cosmic dragon]

fair

[shy viper]

AAA game btw

[crisp pumice]

Story of my life

[full burrow]

its the bigger problem of modern day gaming, why make a good product when you can just make a few graphically good areas and get a trailer out of it that makes the game LOOK really good so people buy

and once money has changed hands theres no fucks given

[shy viper]

I liked the game enough to buy the S6 season pass and one pack of BF coins to get a skin

Now S7 is dogshit so I don't want to play anymore, but I spent the money already

[cosmic dragon]

png

ong

[crisp pumice]

That's how Blizzard works, not EA,
Because at least EA knows that they lose trust

[cosmic dragon]

i bought the s7 battlepass because i liked the tier 100 skin

didnt know it was tier 100

im not playing the game

pixelmon is more important

[crisp pumice]

EA at least tries to fix stuff

[vocal tusk]

I have no real problem with an optional battle pass...as long as a seasons content is not 1 map to tide me over for 3/4 months.

[crisp pumice]

Blizzard doesn't

[stone cradle]

If gamers preorder it up, I can't blame them

[pine roost]

how did you not know it was the final tier skin, all the skins and where they are are visible from day 1

[stone cradle]

Crimson red or whatever is a joke

[full burrow]

what the fuck did they try to fix with 2042, had like 5.5 people working it dripfeeding us shitty maps and reused weapons

[stone cradle]

1 skin across 3 weeks

While the rest of the 'content' are paid bundles

[cosmic dragon]

i read the thing

log

thing

[vocal tusk]

I also have no real problem with the season events. As long as the modes are good. Frontlines is a really fun mode

[cosmic dragon]

devs writing stuff website

i dont remember the name

[pine roost]

well next time double check ;)

[shy viper]

If they didn't have a seasonal model with a battlepass they would instead have to release good paid DLC packs with multiple maps and just in general do better because copies and DLC is the only way the game makes money. Seasonal model sucks

[stone cradle]

Frontlines is fun but they're not giving us much for playing it

[crisp pumice]

I'm saying they at least try to do something about it
Unlike Bethesda and Blizzard

[cosmic dragon]

i didnt see no tier 100

[stone cradle]

I guess they really are scraping the most they can to give the game somewhat of a sendoff

[crisp pumice]

"you guys have phones right?"

[full burrow]

moving on and leaving a skeleton crew to keep making skins isnt trying very hard

[pine roost]

just scroll to the right on the pass screen

[vocal tusk]

The next game is going to have battle pass and skins. It just also needs to have actual content like maps and weapons every season...or just go back to premium.

[shy viper]

Paid game with quarterly DLC was so much better

[cosmic dragon]

im lazy

i forget to breathe sometimes

expecting me to scroll to the right is like asking a guy with broken legs to walk

[stone cradle]

Go back to premium and watch people cry that "EA is being greedy, CHARGING us to play on the new maps and use new guns when they should be free like COD and Fortnite! ?"

[cosmic dragon]

do a minecraft and pay for it once and not have to pay again

unless ea does an account migration

[shy viper]

They don't need to show up if a battlepass and paid skins are used unfortunately, next game will be just as incomplete as 2042

[patent path]

40 DOLLARS FOR MAPS ALREADY MADE? AAAAAA

[full burrow]

as long as dlcs add an amount of content clearly worth paying for then its not a problem

[stone cradle]

"40 DOLLARS FOR BF4 MAP PORTS??! LAZY DICE!!"

[shy viper]

The BF3 and 4 DLCs were awesome

[patent path]

ubisoft is basically doing a premium pass for starwars outlaws, 40$ for early access and like 2 more missions, people are seething with anger

[shy viper]

EA Shareholder insight:

[patent path]

they moved away from premium pass because it divided the community and people have different opinions on how it should cost

[stone cradle]

"singleplayer games should just have dlc, not mtx, I'd pay for it no matter how much it is"

Ubisoft does exactly this for Outlaws

"REEE, WHY CAN'T THEY JUST HAVE MTX, $40 FOR NEW MISSIONS?!"

[full burrow]

if the game is good, there there will be enough players to fill both dlc and non dlc servers

[mental delta]

It's like the whole Dead Space drama idk if you're aware of it but it kills me

[full burrow]

and after years the price can just be dropped significantly

[stone cradle]

That came from someone who's barely right. Who makes alot of 'predictions' on his podcast

EA shut down his rumour, and a few hours ago Schreier backed them up

[patent path]

to be fair, they have both a season pass and the mission dlc but still yeah

[pine roost]

and knowing how pre order missions have gone in the past, I can't imagine it'll be worth it

[stone cradle]

Ubi dlc missions are either incredible or atrocious. No in-between

[vocal tusk]

The team that made Dead Space are working on Iron man anyway. Any addition from Motive towards Battlefield will come from a new team they are building.

[pine roost]

I can be happy in the thought that I've never played any of them since i've never pre ordered them B)

[stone cradle]

I've played some of the AC ones. Some were better than the base story, and others felt like a waste of time

[patent path]

yeah, 2 different teams, internet already freaking out because durrr they cancelled dead space 2 remake, meanwhile dead space 2 remake wasn't even started

[stone cradle]

"guys, the evil EA executives forced them to work on Iron Man"

"the studio heads couldn't have preferred to make an iron man game first before heading back to dead space surely..."

[mental delta]

Wait there's another drama I ain't aware of lol ?

[patent path]

[patent path]

yeah the "dead space 2 remake dead" guy was pulling this statement out of his ass

dead space 2 remake is literally not a thing

[stone cradle]

Love how he doubled down on it too

[patent path]

they haven't even thought about it

[stone cradle]

And then Schreier came and said "lol no"

[patent path]

gaming journalists lmao

[vocal tusk]

And of course you have weirdos on the net saying things like "You want to tell me that after making a popular remake in Dead Space...they just decided no not even consider making a Dead Space 2 remake!!!"

Like of course they would have immediately considered it, but they likely looked at the sales of DS1 remake...weighed that profit vs the cost of making DS2 remake...and decided that right now, its not a good idea. DS remake didnt sell very well it seems

[mental delta]

I was talking about the fact everyone has been whinning since they pretty much confirmed Dead Space 2 remake wasn't in their current plans because Motive had been sent to BF development lol, people say EA is dumb for not making it because Dead Space 1 remake was critically acclaimed, though thing is : it apparently didn't sell well
So as much as I hate EA there's absolutely no point for them to make a game that didn't sell well

[stone cradle]

Or they probably didn't want to make another DS right after finishing the remake

[pine roost]

i'm angry they haven't done another mirror's edge

[vocal tusk]

If the first game didnt sell sell...the second will sell worse.

[stone cradle]

And DS remake actually did sell very well in the first 2 months of 2023

[mental delta]

Lol I didn't know someone claimed Dead Space 2 remake was a thing at some point, it can't have been cancelled if it never had been planned

[patent path]

yeah exactly

[mental delta]

Yes that's the whole thing, yet people think that just because they liked it there should be a second one

[vocal tusk]

Like most games, it likely had some concept art work done for it...but its normal for studios to concept things for potential future games.

[patent path]

dude just foamed at the mouth calling EA trash for forcing Motive to work on battlefield

[mental delta]

Personally game looks interesting but too expensive

[patent path]

games get cancelled or re-directed even after playable concept stage

watch dogs had 6 different playable concepts before they settled for the one we have today

ass creed also had multiple

[mental delta]

Lmao it's just normal to me, it's just one of their biggest franchises and one of the only they didn't kill yet lol, idk why they shouldn't do everything they can to make next game good

[stone cradle]

My favourite example is RE4 having gone through the dev cycle almost 6 times until they got something they liked

And then they took the scrapped ideas and we got devil may cry

[mental delta]

It's some intelligent move right there lol

Might as well used things you already created

They could reuse some BF2042 concepts for next game

[patent path]

if only valve would release half of their cancelled projects

they have no shareholders to please so they don't release shit

[stone cradle]

I mean even if they did why should they

Steam is an infinite money printer

Their existing live service like CS and dota also print money

[slow tulip]

They are banking on CS2 and steam

Valve is getting away with gambling

They don't care about TF2

[vocal tusk]

DellGPT is back

[slow tulip]

What happened to your YouTube channel?

[amber kelp]

40$ for early access and like 2 more missions
This is not a good deal at all

[slow tulip]

Ubisoft said get comfortable with not owning games

[patent path]

It's 40$ for early access, the missions, the season pass

Good deal or not depends on how you value 40$

[amber kelp]

oh 2 missions and the season pass

[mental delta]

Then they'll be comfortable with going bankrupt and being forced to sell their entire company to Tencent

[slow tulip]

I will be comfortable by not buying their games

[full burrow]

I think r6 what the last ubisoft game I bought unless im missing something

[mental delta]

Fr me to lol, there's absolutely no Ubisoft games I plan on buying rn, except if next Far Cry is good maybe

[full burrow]

have 0 fucking intrerest in assisins creed

[slow tulip]

Fc6 was a let down

[full burrow]

far cry generally isnt worth it, once youve done a few missions youve done them all

[slow tulip]

There are already leaks of AC red is out

[full burrow]

apart from that does ubi have anything popular?

[ashen siren]

Ubisoft can get in the bin tbh...scummy business practices deserved to be punished.

[mental delta]

It was one of the best open-world franchise and it went down progressively, imo it reached the lowest point with Valhalla

[quaint vector]

Can someone smart translate that for me..?

[mental delta]

Far Cry 6 is the worst Far Cry ever made but it's some incredibly fun open-world game imo, it's dense, relaxing and it has a lot of content

It's just not a Far Cry at all lol

[full burrow]

tell him if he was a real sensei he would be as at least as good as you

[mental delta]

You're about to get absolutely BANNED

[full burrow]

I think last one I played was the himalays one with the heroin making fake nepal country

[slow tulip]

Xdefient a f2p cod alternative is coming

[full burrow]

but I think ive seen reviews for newer ones that say the missions are still just copy and paste basocally

[quaint vector]

https://tenor.com/view/que-gif-27530657

[mental delta]

4th one then, well it's a really good game as well, I might have a preference for 5th one though over 4th one

[mental delta]

EA is coming for you bro

[full burrow]

yeah I did actually enjoy that one, but I was limited to console atm the time so not as much choice, and while I did enjoy it, the missions were repetive and as far as I know it never got any better

[next onyx]

P125?

[full burrow]

devs nowadays think imrpoving the graphics = new game

[quaint vector]

Oh noooo, I'm so scared now

[mental delta]

Yeah it got more repetitive over the new episodes, it's a bit more dense now though on many aspects

[mental delta]

Well I ain't the one you have to tell that to, tell that to user named "Pso-Sensei"

[full burrow]

yeah probably not for me then still, I struggle to finish games (even ones that I think are incredible) yet alone repetivie shit

[mental delta]

[mental delta]

Yeah I get that lol I do the same, there are games I like but I don't finish them

[full burrow]

I think the last game I finished was divinity original sin 2 and the previous pathfinder game

I didnt even finish BG3 xD

[karmic rover]

Hi there, what do you think about the pure infantry maps? I love playing them

[full burrow]

I hate redacted

maybe not hate actually, as it is fun to play on but its so one dimentional

I like CQ cos you feel like you can be responsible for turning the tide of battle based on strategy, going for X flag or defending one ect, but in those meatgrinders its just fight at choke x100

[mental delta]

Idk those games lol

Gn y'all

[full burrow]

gn

[mental delta]

Thanks

[novel zephyr]

BF2042: "was I good game?"

Death: "you weren't even half-baked"

[kindred flint]

youre so bold and brave

[full burrow]

its still a "good" battlefield game, we mostly all play it here, its just hard to overlook the bad points/decision making thats a part of it

and for 7.5 - 5.5 people it is an incredible success

[ebon pilot]

no obviously it's the spawn of satan with zero good qualities

[vital quail]

Most of my complaints come from the skill of most of the people that play the game

[kindred flint]

bf4 still bestest game ever

[full burrow]

you reserve the right to say that compared to battlefield

[modest ivy]

Ah, you also had a screacher in chat today

[full burrow]

but the best game there ever was, was darkfall

[next onyx]

The bunch of gameplay decisions just infuriate me to no end to be honest.

When the game plays well it's fun.

[ashen siren]

2042 will go down as a sub-par battlefield game...it brought nothing new, exciting, or fun, and was overall a poorly executed mess.

[next onyx]

Just the playerbase is ratty as fuck as well which exacerbates the bad game play decisions.

[ashen siren]

They tried to do too much, and did none of it well.

[ebon pilot]

nothing new
nothing
new

[vital quail]

I've recently had someone I can play with and rely on and I've had the most fun on any battlefield ever while with them

Without them it's a slog

[full burrow]

yeah I almost never play solo

[ebon pilot]

it's funny because 2042 is the one game i can tolerate playing solo

and I play solo most of the time

[novel zephyr]

Wait, when did it play well? I'm not being sarcastic, did they actually make a good change and I missed it?

[vital quail]

Even the smallest thing such as driving the latv4 with the flak cannon is pretty much night and day different when playing with someone

[ashen siren]

Because everybody is playing it solo, and not working together as a team/squad, it's the easiest title of the series to just lone-wolf.

[ebon pilot]

which is crazy because everyone else says it's a slog!

[novel zephyr]

From what I've seen, BF1, 4 and hell even V still has all the players that're good.

[vital quail]

I was defending a flag alone trying to drive it around last night while also shooting at the nightbird

Doing 2 jobs

[ashen siren]

BF1 has possibly the sweatiest players...that's a game where teamwork matters

[novel zephyr]

I'm just glad they're finally moving on to hopfully a rebirth of Battlefield with games that're good.

[ashen siren]

Just remember kiddies, do not pre-purchase the next game! 😉

[novel zephyr]

People give me crap for 'being upset and taking it so seriously' but BF1 needs that level of insane dedication or teamwork, otherwise you get gunned down by people who have no life.

No serously, there's people that've done nothing but waste an entire year of their lives playing BF1.

[ashen siren]

During all of the Melbourne lock-downs, I pretty much only played BF1. It was a very popular game at that time because it was only $11, and it's fair to say I got my money's worth, haha!

[novel zephyr]

got that early enlister's edition.

steelbook

[novel zephyr]

Also, how's Australia this time of year?

[ashen siren]

Depends where you are...it's a whole continent with different terrain and weather! It's cool, damp and miserable outside this morning where I am.

[novel zephyr]

East Coast moment

[ashen siren]

I've got to work this afternoon, so traffic will suck with all the rain we've had...people have a lobotomy with regards to driving skills in the wet! 😛

[full burrow]

I think thats the case with most games lol, and considering bf1 is now quite old it makes sense that only those most dedicated remain which would indeed make it difficult for any "new" players

[ashen siren]

When lockdowns started and I began playing BF1, it was clear there were a LOT of sweat-lords. I persisted and became really good, even being a mod for a server. It was sooooooo much more fun to play than 2042...a gaping chasm of fun to play

[tawny carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/no-more-questions-just-do-it-americas-got-talent-agt-no-more-inquiries-just-do-it-gif-22700325

[next onyx]

Plenty of rats in those games as well

[kindred flint]

man you think you can just play a simple round of haven....except half the team who has been looking at B for multiple minutes cant push into the fucking point to cap..and we lose C instead holding 2 caps is just too hard

[dawn cedar]

people always say this for the current release

[ebon pilot]

"i don't like it so it's objectively the worst game of all time"

[ashen siren]

The addition of Haven has pretty much put me off playing 2042. Every second game it gets put on rotation, and I can't stand how bad that map is. I wish we could select what maps to play

[full burrow]

I lowkey like haven, its poorly designed but it offers a challenge

[ashen siren]

It's a sniper-fest, with horrible flag locations, and has awful "flow" to the design

[kindred flint]

the flow is to just play mackay

[full burrow]

at least it offers possibilities

[ebon pilot]

it needs vehicles to break up spawn locks

just some simple transports to get people moving around

[kindred flint]

light transport cant exist sorry

[arctic grove]

i like redacted ngl, storytelling elements are top notch to explain what happened in the herbrides (and cuz its a meatgrinder)

gives me some scp vibes too

[full burrow]

infantry fights are fun, I just literally get bored of it before the match is even over, just the same fights at the same chokes

[ashen siren]

Redacted is fast-paced, which makes it more engaging than some of the yawn-fests of other maps

[novel zephyr]

Make it a free monthly

[ebon pilot]

If other maps are yawn fests you probably aren't playing to maximize engagement

essentially

skill issue

[ashen siren]

Nothing whatsoever to do with skill issue, the majority of maps in this game are pretty mediocre in design and gameplay.

[novel zephyr]

Not really, 2042 was more DOA than a decapitation call.

[kindred flint]

we needed shroud and the doc to make 2042 maps fr fr

[ebon pilot]

here's how you find people to fight:

1. Go to the objective you don't have
2. Done

In Redacted you're basically always standing on top of an objective

but that's boring and doesn't lead to very interesting gameplay

[ashen siren]

The point I'm trying to make is that Redacted is more fun and engaging than most other maps. There's some absolute snore-fest maps in this game.

In a game where there's nothing to really do other than Tier 1 weapons, the grind is more productive in Redacted

[dawn cedar]

no

[ashen siren]

Personally I'll be glad to see the end of this game and never return to it. Very sub-par release title.

[arctic grove]

and look ea, i get its the future, but that doesnt mean the sights need to have 6g wifi tethering with a hotspot and clash of clans bro 😭

like

its a good game, but i feel they focused too much on the smaller details

[ebon pilot]

sights with wifi connectivity exist today

[slim hound]

How come they do? What does the wifi connectivity do for a scope

[kindred flint]

keeps track of your epic kill streaks? duh

[ebon pilot]

WiFi for smartphone (iOS and Android) app connection. Use phone or tablet as a live viewfinder, adjust all settings, update software, initiate and share recordings and photographs.

Kinda

They also capture video as implied

[kindred flint]

thats gotta be an expensive unit

[ebon pilot]

It also has night vision

[arctic grove]

oh sick

i genuinely didnt know that lmao

[arctic grove]

hear me out..

night maps..

[ebon pilot]

Manifest

[arctic grove]

and working night vision goggle-

let me finsih

finsib

fnish

fisnsh

finish

[novel zephyr]

we had night operations in BF4

[arctic grove]

do we in 2042?

idrk

[novel zephyr]

No, because only effort that's gone into 2042 was the money leeching cosmetics

'game's broken'

'here's more cosmetics'

[arctic grove]

hey, atleast they give us something

it takes a bit for bug updates to actually be fixed lol

they gotta make sure it doesnt re-break the game

[novel zephyr]

misery and buyer's remorse?

[ashen siren]

Could not give a flying fuck about skins and all of that nonsense...providing a satisfactory product that people have paid for (ie the game) should have been their priority. Pure unadulterated greed.

[arctic grove]

didnt they just have a sale where you could get it for 9 bucks..?

ahem, sorry

THE ENTIRE AVALIABLE BATTIFIELD FRANCHISE ON STEAM

[novel zephyr]

wait you mean Bad Company 1, 2 and 2043?

[arctic grove]

i said avaliable

[novel zephyr]

We lost three amazing games' multiplayer functionality.

2042 cost us Battlefield's legacy.

[arctic grove]

not really

battlefield still has a legacy, albiet not a good one, but one

[novel zephyr]

Those great games were killed to peddle the shite Portal mode. Know how many of my friends or anyone else says brighteyed 'hey let's ahve some fun on portal mode in 2042'? Not a single one.

[ashen siren]

I bought a PS5 the other day, and had to laugh that 2042 was the cheapest new game on the shelf at $19AUD. Says it all about this game really.

[arctic grove]

do any of them own 2042?

[arctic grove]

i meant on steam

lol

[novel zephyr]

free monthly for PSN users.

[arctic grove]

what

[novel zephyr]

Got it for free and still paid to much.

Every month PS+ subscribers get three or four new games, 2042 was one of them.

It cost me storage space, and worse still time I'll never get back.

[arctic grove]

isnt the base game no charge at all..?

[arctic grove]

uninstalling:

[novel zephyr]

I did, I got storage space, but never time returned.

[arctic grove]

did you get the game or was it given to you?

[ashen siren]

I'll keep 2042 installed on my pc for those rare occasions I want to play it, but from here-on, I'm putting my time into Gran Turismo on the PS. I'm just fed up and bored with 2042.

[arctic grove]

ok but atleast its not cod 😭

2042 > mw3
bf5 > vanguard

[next onyx]

Yeah that's what I feel actually.

That alien like feel.

[arctic grove]

fr lmao

i like to think we're some mtf and we're fighting ci

[rare quest]

these game modes are always dead in every shooterbecause people just use flashlights and ruin the game mode

nothing worse than getting hyped up for nightvision game mode just to be completely blind in both eyes due to every other teammate and enemy

[arctic grove]

eh

yeah

[rare quest]

if they disable flashlights? absolutely

but for some reason, they never do

[arctic grove]

maybe ir lasers?

[rare quest]

and im just blind

[full burrow]

what if certain maps/flags had "chemical spill" type thing and when exposed you only see in black and white

[acoustic seal]

of all the gamemodes people could ask for, they keep asking for fucking 128 tdm ("rush xl")

i dont think i'm mentally prepared to see rush xl mains call frontlines bad

i might have an aneurysm

[arctic grove]

bro, just be happy with 128 conquest

smh

[lime nacelle]

can anyone help with this error unable to load persistence data

[reef cliff]

I wish we could give feed back about gun balancing before they actually stop supporting Bf2042 for good.

Like feedback here inside of the forums,etc

[next onyx]

That wouldn't be a bad idea to be honest.

But it just depends on the parties willing to open a thread.

[robust vapor]

Can't wait for stealth bomber

Wildcat mains will morb

That thermal smoke ain't helping you

[placid echo]

I'll be getting more things to Lis rocket then

[robust vapor]

You guys heard of Rendezook

But the POINT BLANK TANK takes the cake

[placid echo]

Oh that takes me back lol

[robust vapor]

We do a little trolling, Riptor

[quiet shell]

I remember when people tried so hard to recreate this at 2042's launch

[robust vapor]

Also Hokum melee > Apache melee

[quiet shell]

And it the physics just kept breaking

[ivory canopy]

Finally T1'd the LCMG

[karmic axle]

Hell yeah can't wait for the new Sundance outfit next week. 😔

[calm bison]

I think you guys might have missed something

They are adding an exclusive skin

For a vault weapon

Like holy shit

[karmic axle]

wym?

[next onyx]

I just went out to see if it was true.

Yeah. He is.

[karmic axle]

Oh does that come with the sundance skin?

that's all I care about

[next onyx]

As that's been stated yes.

The bundles with the Ak5c skin, P125 and SCAR skin I only care for.

[karmic axle]

I don't use skins.

I just started playing this season.

I just want a cool tactical looking sundance set.

[fresh lintel]

Oh boy ANOTHER Sundance ski

[karmic axle]

as someone who has 0 skins for her.

[fresh lintel]

Theyre like Lis. They both get too many skins (Boris too and angel/Rao)

Like wheres the Zain skins wheres Dozer who should have the Coalition skin

Also someone make this NTW death make sense to me

[karmic axle]

Oh I'm sure you're right.

[robust vapor]

Bro where my exclusive M16 skin

[karmic axle]

I just am glad to have a skin that I like the look of for Sundance now.

[robust vapor]

[karmic axle]

Also what's a person gotta do to get a screenshot channel around here? 😔

[chilly jacinth]

You got shot

Simple as

[karmic axle]

Is it ever bad to not run an underbarrel option?

Like using the default nothing balanced performance thing?

[fresh lintel]

The issue is I was shooting first

Like this isnt CoD 😭

[robust vapor]

Those are for when you're in a pinch

Or to simply finish off an unguarded target

[karmic axle]

perhaps you misunderstood the question.

[karmic axle]

This

nothing

[fresh lintel]

Also AK5C with CQC Ammo might actually be the best version of itself right now. It has no recoil. It fucking shreds. And its range is not bad too.

[robust vapor]

Ah so from your context without it is fine too

[fresh lintel]

Oh you mean like, running a gun with no underbarrel/grip/laser?

[robust vapor]

Certain guns are fine without it tbh

[karmic axle]

RM68?

[fresh lintel]

Eeeeh

[karmic axle]

I really don't like the underbarrel launchers, I dislike the lasers, I dislike the grips.

[robust vapor]

VHX

[fresh lintel]

I'd recommend the LWG for that.

VHX can get away with no underbarrel.

GEW.

M5.

[karmic axle]

I've tried LWG tbh didn't notice much difference between that and nothing..

[robust vapor]

Naked VHX performs astonishingly better

[karmic axle]

Talking about RM68

[robust vapor]

It's the same for RM68

[fresh lintel]

I prefer RM68 with the LWG since i'm always moving. But the difference in accuracy/recoil control isnt super different

Well from standing versus moving*

Like its probably better with the MGL or STNR, whatever it gets. The only downside that gives is the laser.

[robust vapor]

Install Lazer on your head @fresh lintel

[fresh lintel]

I'll install a bipod on yours 😤

[karmic axle]

I still can't get over how SHIT this game looks visually.

[fresh lintel]

New devs and a new engine i think?

Plus also Last gen probably holding the game back.

Also IMO: Despite being worse visually than BF3-BF4, graphics dont make a game and never will (even though good graphics are always welcome)

[chilly jacinth]

Game looks great on ultra

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, maps and aesthetic aside, 2042 looks a lot better than any past game...fidelity wise.

Do you guys think that the SRAW deliberately is being made dip down, then up when fired?

I find this very annoying as a rocket launcher, IMO it should be the other way around...even if thats not totally realistic

[patent path]

yup

to simulate its shitty behavior irl

[vocal tusk]

Its super jarring, especially paired with the high magnification. These are the cases where IRL performance should be ignored haha

[patent path]

it was so shit they stopped production after 1 year

[crisp scaffold]

What I hate is the fact you have the same operator on both teams which can create alot of confusion.

Like it should be that your character can be the operator but when you look at an enemy with the same one thier model shows up as a easily distinguishable model. Like in bf4 with established class models you knew who was friend and foe

In 2042 you can't tell none of em apart

[patent path]

you can definitely tell them apart, they look very different from each other, even with their varied cosmetics, also big red fucking name on top of their head

[vocal tusk]

I personally got past the whole clone wars thing almost immediately...but I can see how for some its a deal breaker.

[chilly jacinth]

It would definitely be better without clones

But it's not a massive issue

[crisp scaffold]

I still often get tricked by it when I see a player with the same model as me.

What I mean is when you look at them they should look like a mercenary soldier model instead of an operator so you definitely 100% don't mistake em for a team mates. That was a big problem in the games early days

[vocal tusk]

I would prefer a faction based system...even if each faction had (For example) Assault, recon, support and engineer...but each of those factions and classes had customize-able soldiers in the same way 2042 specialists do. Like having different body types/genders, ETC

[patent path]

yeah

tactical barbies are definitely better than what we have now

[crisp scaffold]

I stopped playing since all 2042 is is a cod clone at best. There's a reason why all previous titles had those factions. You knew even from a distant if that guy is backing you up or being added to your score.

[remote kiln]

there's a bright red marker lol

[vocal tusk]

2042 is very different to COD. I really dont see where people get that from if you have played a significant amount of both

[remote kiln]

^

[patent path]

hurrr because cosmetic

that's their entire argument

[vocal tusk]

Even cosmetics wise they are not alike. Yes both have skins...but 2042 did an (IMO) exceptional job in keeping the skins on theme

[crisp scaffold]

The ttk mathes what cod is. They definitely tried to copy them and it got them alot fo backlash as it does not feel like an actual battlefield game. Just another cosmetic fps

[vocal tusk]

No it doesnt

[patent path]

I have 1k hours with mw2/3, it's nothing like cod

[vocal tusk]

TTK in 2042 is WAY faster

[chilly jacinth]

Isn't the ttk similar to other bf games

[vocal tusk]

And weapon variance/balance is much better in 2042

[remote kiln]

faster than the median bf game

[vocal tusk]

Outside of the new seasonal guns...weapon balance is generally pretty good. Especially now that SMGs are usable again

You can do well with 90% of the weapons

[crisp scaffold]

I fully disagree. As someone whose played every game in the franchise since the very first title. 2042 is so far left field from what dice is good at that it's surreal they can even call it a battlefield game

[vocal tusk]

Again versus COD where only about 10% of the guns are competitively useful

[remote kiln]

dude missed hardline lmao

you think 2042 is bad you're 6 years late

[vocal tusk]

Agree...2042 is very different to past BF games, but unless you only play TDM, it is nothing like COD

[shy viper]

the players who compare 2042 to COD are the players you find on the aircraft carrier for a whole Rush match

[vocal tusk]

Like...if you choose to only play as run and gun assault and never try to play any other way...I can MAYBE see how a player would think 2042 is like COD.

[crisp scaffold]

I play hardline still since I'm one of the of old CTE volunteers I still have our clan tag and our logo. Likely the only one who still does. Same for bf4

[remote kiln]

you're not special for playing the cte

[vocal tusk]

But there are dozens of ways you can play this game, dozens of ways you can affect a round versus just "Getting kills", which is what COD is 95% about

[crisp scaffold]

When you put over 1000 hours into testing says otherwise

[chilly jacinth]

What did you help with

[remote kiln]

you think youre special? lol, dude I played the cte aswell and have countless hours on 3/4

[chilly jacinth]

Aside from just playing alot

[vocal tusk]

Experience doesnt magically make bad opinions better

[remote kiln]

funny he's not talking about the loot boxes in bf4

total non mention of it

[chilly jacinth]

Gambling is great

[crisp scaffold]

In bf4 aloft of weapon of map testing looking for glitches and potential items of concern like popping under the map due to code issues. Anything that would cause potential lag.

Same with bf1

[remote kiln]

cause the game was broken as shit dude at release

lmao

[vocal tusk]

I dont factor them as loot boxes...even tho they could be purchased. They were mostly a waste...and I only have issue with loot boxes if they deliberately make the things inside them harder to earn versus just buying them

[crisp scaffold]

Plus the battle packs were also earnable via game play

[chilly jacinth]

Doesn't make it better

[vocal tusk]

I do miss battle log...as jank as it was

[remote kiln]

they're as close to loot boxes as can be just reskinned, anything which has a luck based factor and a randomiser, DICE knew exactly what they were doing with it

[chilly jacinth]

In any way

[remote kiln]

they even went out their way to literally lock attachments for guns behind them entirely

[crisp scaffold]

The way battlepacks worked were that a paid pack was the same as an earned on and the rng was the same percentage.

Diffrence being you paid to get the packs quicker and bypass the game play part. But buying them didn't guarantee a good drop

[remote kiln]

you bought, the gold ones

the ones you "earned" the vast majority were bronze

don't pretend it wasn't designed as a predatory gambling system when that's exactly what it was

if you die on this hill that they're fine because they can be earned ingame you're no different to the people who defended gambling systems in overwatch

[crisp scaffold]

You earned a gold pack every 5 level ups in xp. Assuming your good at grinding you could easily earn a 5x pack in a day

[remote kiln]

and it changes, nothing

[chilly jacinth]

You should play some phone gacha games

[crisp scaffold]

Keep in mind these packs are cheap and entirely optional. Your not required to buy them to enjoy the game

[vocal tusk]

Battlepacks basically didnt affect the game at all tho. Most people never even bothered with them

[remote kiln]

yeah unless you want to use the attachments for weapons which you couldnt use lol

you know, that small thing

[patent path]

lol didn't they lock attachments behind the packs?

[remote kiln]

yes they did

[vocal tusk]

It was an attempt at loot boxes tho, thats correct. But it wasnt bad enough or affecting enough to care this much about it haha

[remote kiln]

not unlockable through kills or damage had to get them through the packs

the best ones, I wonder why

[chilly jacinth]

Camos, attachments and xp boosts

[patent path]

if you have the premium pass you get free packs all the time but if you don't then it's quite shitty

[chilly jacinth]

Probably some more things

[crisp scaffold]

The breaks and suppressors were all more of less the same. Just cosmetically diffrent. As for optics the ones locked behind packs weren't even very good ones

[remote kiln]

??

[vital quail]

Weren’t they just different names from the ones you could get from kills

[remote kiln]

you're pretending the coyote wasn't good?

[crisp scaffold]

Statistically more attachments in bf4 were about the same states. With very slight differences in them

[remote kiln]

man battlefield gamers really are the most powerful defenders of shitty systems sometimes because they have a nostalgic view about a certain game they liked in the franchise

[vital quail]

Like stubby grip and potato grip did the same but one was from battle packs

[remote kiln]

paid shortcuts and gambling are all fine because battlefield 4 is a good game

just ignore them something something

[vocal tusk]

But...werent weapons battlepack attachements unlocked by getting kills with that weapon. You didnt need to buy them

[crisp scaffold]

To prove how easy it is to bypass the battle packs in over 7 years off game play I've bought maybe 6 packs total. Plus with the addition of the shortcut packs the battle lacks became obsolete.

[remote kiln]

so you bought them

congrats, maybe that's the entire problem

[crisp scaffold]

Very few. And only brinze

[chilly jacinth]

You can buy bronze?

[remote kiln]

yes

[crisp scaffold]

I paid less then $8 in 7 years of playing. I don't see how that is a problem

[remote kiln]

you can buy bronze silver and gold

what?

you don't see how gambling systems in a triple a game are a problem?

[vocal tusk]

Again...didnt you unlock all the battlepacks for any weapon at like...450 kills or something?

So who cares

[remote kiln]

what's ironic is battlefield 4's system for unlocking attachments is closer, to modern warfare 3, than any game in the series

[crisp scaffold]

Deco is just trying to make a problem out of a nothing burger. If 8 bucks worth of bronze packs in 7 years is a big issue then it ain't the system that's the problem there.

Battle packs were never predatory at all

[remote kiln]

right lol nothing burger because you have red tinted glasses about one title in particular

DICE could add paying for ammo in battlefield 4 and you and others would defend it to the hilt if it existed

[vocal tusk]

Youre kinda making a mountain out of a molehill here tho.

[crisp scaffold]

2042 got such a bad rep for being the most lackluster title in battlefield history. It has collectively had less content then any previously title.

I see deco is one of THOSE people.

[remote kiln]

?

[vocal tusk]

It was very easy to unlock all battlepack attachments through gameplay

[remote kiln]

so is overwatch, modern warfare, etc

battlefield doesn't make it better

[crisp scaffold]

Dice has pit more effort into paid cosmetics then the actual game itself. The same thing call of duty does. They only focus on Clown costumes.

Think back to the trailer. Remember how all the soldiers on both sides had the same armor types? Where are those cosmetics as a default for both teams?

[vocal tusk]

On AI soldiers

Those are not specialists

[crisp scaffold]

Yeah but players should have that option as well. Or at least in setting to set enemy players as default

[vocal tusk]

Ideally yes, but its not the way this game went

[chilly jacinth]

It's not what any publisher wants

They want you to see the cosmetics

[crisp scaffold]

Operators was the worst thing they could ha e done. It broke battlefield tradition and it was not recieved well

[chilly jacinth]

So you buy them

[vocal tusk]

BFV basically had opperators also

[crisp scaffold]

Not really. Yeah some of the cosmetics were ugly looking but you could still tell one from the other.

For me personally playing a historically accurate game is more entertaining then anything else. Which is why I hate any cod past call of duty 3.

Bfv was supposed to be historically accurate and they botched that up so horribly

[vocal tusk]

I doubt most people would have cared all that much if this game released with the class system it has ATM...and instead of specialist, you had a choice of soldier appearance...with the existing specialists being those appearances...and of course had no specialist gadgets. Instead you were allowed to choose gadget 1 and 2 from a pool of gadgets. Also instead of specialist perks...you had the option to chose which perk your soldier took into battle.

BFV was absolutely NOT meant to be historically accurate. Where in hell are you pulling that from?

[chilly jacinth]

That sounds like a nightmare to balance

[vocal tusk]

No harder than past games.

Some perks and specialists would obviously need to be changed and balanced differently. Like dozers appearance and perk for example.

It makes sense on him ATM, as he essentially wears a bomb suit

[chilly jacinth]

Imagine Dozer shield with Zain regen

[vocal tusk]

Dozer shioeld is a specialist gadget. It wouldnt be in the game

At least not as it currently works.

[chilly jacinth]

Oh missed the part about no specialist gadgets

Then it doesn't sound that bad

[vocal tusk]

Same with Grapple hook/wingsuit.

Those IMO should not return to the franchise, at least not in their current form.

Wingsuit should at the least be a gadget that also requires the use of a parachute to not die on landing

[lilac dust]

Well here's hoping that the next Battlefield will be equally as immersive as BF1. A game that released 8 years ago. Before Battlefront 2 and before BFV.

2042 would have been better suited releasing in 2015

[vocal tusk]

the game we have now, yes. the game we got on release should not have seen the light of day

[patent path]

battlefront 2 was pretty immersive, all things considered

bf5 was a clown show

I hate the sliding spam so much

[lilac dust]

Battlefront 2 is mind blowingly beatiful to this day. The fact that 2042 wasnt even on the level of immersion as the game that came out 1 year before battlefront 2 is insane lol. 5 years apart and it isnt even as good looking

[shy viper]

I think BF4 Remastered would be awesome

[vocal tusk]

I think it would be unecessary

[lilac dust]

Imma be pissed if they just jump to 2142 for next game. We need a GREAT present day batlefield before we worry about future stuff

[vocal tusk]

Doubt they will move to the future

[stone cradle]

how are those operators

They're just skin presets, nothing more

or skin bundles

you can have elites be any class you want

https://www.rxddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/1c1qwzz/quality_and_quantity_still_wouldnt_have_changed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

finally someone says it

[patent path]

the only way premium pass could work nowadays is if it only time-locks content

but then people will complain about "hurr paid whales get early access to cool shits, pay2win reee"

[chilly jacinth]

battlepass already time locks stuff

[patent path]

I mean also including maps and other shit besides weapons

for people who don't care about money, premium pass like back in bf4 is probably the best choice, they pay extra for extra, regularly fed content

but gamers don't have jobs

we all know that

[mighty holly]

Make gamers have jobs

[patent path]

that would be impossible

[vocal tusk]

The premium thing was mostly solved in BF1. Play in squad with a player who has premium > you can play play all the maps.

I still think live service isnt the issue. Poorly planned live services, with not enough seasonal content is the problem. With enough time and planning, they should give at least 3 maps per season. Those maps can be new, or remakes of past maps.

[obsidian lotus]

makes call of duty players go outside

[vital quail]

At 40 health in the helicopter and land soft as fuck on the carrier on noshar.... instantly blew up from the collision

???

[patent path]

one massive improvement they could do instantly and would bring in even more profit is non-expiring battlepass

fomo is no longer hip

[stone cradle]

be like halo infinite

[patent path]

yeah imagine if halo infinite actually had good content for their battlepass

would be a perfect system

[stone cradle]

seriously just let everyone buy the previous passes now, might as well.

Except the ultimate pass only stuff or whatever if you really want to keep some of that 'exclusive 1 time only' skins I guess

[fickle wharf]

i have those lol

[patent path]

it's always dumb af to gatekeep content in a game you are ditching soon

[fickle wharf]

they gave them out for free during s5

[vocal tusk]

How would you make persistent battle passes work in relation to weekly missions? Missions would give you a form of soft currency, on which you can spend it to progress the pass of your choice? (Helldivers 2 basically does this)

[fickle wharf]

i have a feeling it goes to a system like bfv

[patent path]

or just exactly like how halo infinite does it

weekly and daily missions give exp toward the battlepass

[vocal tusk]

Which pass tho

[patent path]

how fast you progress them doesn't matter, since there's no longer fomo

the one you choose

you have to select which one you want to progress

[vocal tusk]

Currency based seems easier to do

[patent path]

and you can swap them around

yeah helldivers 2 system is also nice, too little currency tho, it's insanely grindy

[vocal tusk]

Its really not grindy at all. Playing one operation at a higher difficultly nets 32 warbonds

then you have 25/35 from a major order, which is community based and granted almost daily...then a daily mission that gives 15

[patent path]

one operation is like 3 hours isn't it, the randoms I play with are soooo slow

it drives me up the wall with how slow these people play the missions

[vocal tusk]

Na, you can choose to make an operation longer bu doing all things on a map...but even on suicide difficulty it takes no longer to do primary mission than difficulties below it

You can do most missions inside an operation in about 10 mins

With there being 3/4 per operation

[patent path]

that's how I would run it to farm medals, but the randoms I match with are out here collecting requisition slips..

[vocal tusk]

I play with my GF and friends, so I thankfully dont have that issue

haha

[patent path]

you get 5-7k per mission, why are you going around collecting slips of 250

lmao

it's insane

[vocal tusk]

People mainly complete a map to try get all the samples.

Noone really gives a crap about requisition points, as you get 5-8K on higher difficulties

But getting warbonds is only slow on lower difficulties.

IMO...having daily missions is nicer for retention than weekly missions.

[civic mantle]

hello i am looking for a small sqaud to play with for fun. If you are down hit me up. Dm's are open

[vocal tusk]

#lfg-crossplay

[lone void]

I complete the map for it is my duty to Democracy to ensure the planet is secured and all efforts towards liberation are undertaken fully.

[chilly jacinth]

a RAM just one tapped our gunship

[slim hound]

How
Gunships supposed to have a zillion health

[next onyx]

Missile launcher?

[full burrow]

I hit an enemy big helicpter with 3 AA rockets in a row yesterday and because they had passengers they just out repaired my dmg

[vocal tusk]

Sounds like squad play worked as intended

[full burrow]

still poor balance tho, on a tank youd have to be standing relatively still and thus a much easier target in order to achieve that

[vocal tusk]

How is it different to past games, where a UH60 with 2 repairing passengers could do exactly the same thing?

[full burrow]

I cant justify poor balance for air vehicles ok just because its always been bad?

[vocal tusk]

Its not bad tho. They survived because they applied team play. 3 players should not "just die" because you feel like they should

[next onyx]

Helicopters in older battlefields didn't have so much health versus these imbalanced ass transports.

That's the distinction between a venom and a super hind.

Nvm the weapon systems being completely different.

[full burrow]

I get that they did the right thing in that scenario in order to survive but I still think air balance is terrible and a lot more could be done to minimize that effectiveness

[vocal tusk]

Also seems like a bit of a skill issue, because if you are in an AA...and you have a transport heli in view for long enough that you landed 3 direct missile hits, how did you not kill it with AA cannons paired with AA missiles. If its the RAM, then the RAM is not an AA, its a suplimentary AA damage provider

[full burrow]

I used my handheld AA rocket launcher

[vocal tusk]

Then its even more balanced than you claim

¯_(ツ)_/¯

A single soldier shouldnt be able to kill a transport with 3 players squaded up

[full burrow]

ummmmm ok

[vocal tusk]

I get that as a soldier playing...its not the most gratifying outcome...but I really dont see an issue here

[next onyx]

A single smaw could snipe a helicopter.

Didn't see many people complaining about that.

[full burrow]

typically no one enjoys "turtling" mechanics, especially when its a highly mobile turtle that can also use flares and hide outside of the map

[next onyx]

Even if it didn't directly kill it would have sent the helicopter off balance and crashing into the ground.

[vocal tusk]

I do agree that this games transports are a bunch of BS...but inside this game in isolation, I have no real problem with this occurance.

There are multiple tools provided for dealing with them. I do hope we dont get transports in this design in future tho

Bring back the classic transports, like the aforementioned UH60

[full burrow]

Lots of things could be done to make it more challenging to the heli, just sitting and healing it thru dmg isnt fun gameplay. Max repair amount within a timeframe, reduced MAX health after being repaired X amount, reduced mobility during repairs

[vocal tusk]

A transport heli IMO should take 2 AA missiles, 2 dumbfire missiles...or 1 direct AT tank hit to kill.

[full burrow]

I recently unlocked the Smaw, havnt tried it tho, I heard people saying that its dmg is bugged?

[vocal tusk]

You mean SRAW?

[full burrow]

sure xD

[vocal tusk]

Its useless

dont even bother

[fickle wharf]

hind takes more damage than condor

[full burrow]

so what is the smaw

or did way misspell?

[vocal tusk]

Same damage as M5, less ammo...same reload speed...terrible zoom level

[full burrow]

oh eww

[vocal tusk]

SMAW is the hitscan launcher from BF3 era

Its insanely broken and hilariously fun in portal tho

[full burrow]

ah its only a portal modes weapons?

[vocal tusk]

Its not actually hitcscan, it just has such fast projectile velocity that it feels that way

[fickle wharf]

give me back the gustav velo before the nerf

[full burrow]

fair enough, although if its not available in normal game mode I dont really care

I only used to play a portal game mode when they kept taking CQ 64 out of rotation

[vocal tusk]

I like the M5 as it is now. I think they did a good job of balancing launchers...at least the dumbfire ones.

The SRAW is just awful tho. It needs its velocity to be faster, the zoom changed to 1x and its reload speed to be faster than any other

[full burrow]

I used to use the M5 a lot when I previously played like ageees ago, but now ive been maining liz

its nice to be able to keep the pressure on vehicles

like even if they break LoS

also quite funny how much of a grudge heli pilots keep

it is obviously wise for them to hunt down the guy trying to kill them

looking at my stats tho, ive only killed 155 vehicles which doesnt seem like a lot 😦

[vocal tusk]

I only have 945

[full burrow]

oh in game stats say 452 vehciles destroyed

nice, what lvl are you?

im S025

[chilly jacinth]

2386 for me

[arctic grove]

so how is it to discuss a dead game?

[vocal tusk]

S307

[azure zenith]

I stopped counting at S390 something. Lol

[vocal tusk]

Level means next to nothing to me TBH. Its just something that randomly pops up now haha

[ancient peak]

First use of the SRAW netted me a Little Bird kill, then I swapped back to the M5 because everything after that was uh… less than to be desired

[azure zenith]

True lol

[vocal tusk]

Not that it needs to be anything more either. But it would have been cool to get something at the end of it. Like some reason to get to S1000, other than the pretend prestige of doing so

[full burrow]

I mean its just an indicator of how long someones been playing

[drowsy iron]

can i ask question?

How to fix BF2042 Slow Motion?

i've been tried BF 3, 4, 1, V they run fine