battlefield-2042

[hybrid steppe]

Just embrace what smaller studios are doing at the moment like Helldivers 2 and Baldur's Gate 3. Mid level game studios are surging.

[shell ermine]

Instead we got a dumpster fire of a game that is 2042

[stone cradle]

I don't understand why we don't have Kyber yet for BFV

[azure schooner]

that was the only negative that stuck with me from that game

[stone cradle]

But I guess the demand is that low

[shell ermine]

Not a single redeeming thing about 2042

[azure schooner]

loved everything else, but felt the movement was off

[unique steeple]

Yeah dude

[ebon pilot]

plus menu

[stone cradle]

Vehicle call ins

[rose fiber]

Tbh it kinda sucks when you get used to vaulting over objects or when you jump across a gap just to fall down because you hit the edge with your toes

[unique steeple]

Battlefront 2 was fun too , i enjoyed it somehow , but it became harder to find servers after awhile

[vocal tusk]

Plus menu for tanks next!

[pine roost]

if you don't look at the actual mechanics behind movement, then sure. But it's got more complexity than 1 by far

[ebon pilot]

HELL YEA

[shell ermine]

Movement and gunplay were a huge downgrade from BFV, maps were so bad they had to redo them and that only raised them from bad to mediocre. Game started with no class system and they had to jerryrig one in after their experiment failed.

[kindred flint]

i too often enjoy the ability to completely unbalance my weapon

[pine roost]

can definitely agree that vaulting was great. All these games seem to excel in very specific areas when it comes to movement, not one has the complete package

[shell ermine]

2042 had rotten foundations and no amount of updates could fix that, clearly

[unique steeple]

Haven was also weird map , enemies kill u from trillion different angles its like they just put the buildings randomly here and there

[azure schooner]

Nah, only talking about the generic movement for casuals, cannot give an opinion about anything advanced since i mostly played on console when i played bf4

[shy forum]

[pine roost]

i get where you're coming from them

[shell ermine]

Vehicle combat is so bad in 2042

[vocal tusk]

While the maps are not great...I do think the engine in 2042 is a big visual improvement over the version used in V. Grass, trees and foliage pop in is so much better in 2042 versus past games. Even on Max settings, grass and bushes pop up 10 meters away from you in V

[pine roost]

though the changes to turret accel came in clutch

[shell ermine]

Sure in BFV planes were OP, just another in a long line of DICE being utterly unable to balance air vehicles. But tanks felt powerful without being unstoppable monsters. 2042 it's like driving a parade float

[hybrid steppe]

Honestly, I'd hope they'd throw out Frostbite already and move on to something better like Unreal 5.

[vocal tusk]

Planes were at least fun to fly in V tho

[pine roost]

2042's were only fun around the flashpoint season

[unique steeple]

Idk but i like battlefield 3 art style more it feels more realistic

[pine roost]

before then it was a slog

[vagrant trellis]

anyone want to play 2042 tdm?

[quaint vector]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[vocal tusk]

Why in the name of god would you throw out your perfectly fine engine...which you maintain and control...to use some stock version of UE5.

Like I know all the pros and cons of this...but for a company as large as EA, they shouldnt have issues with engine maintenance and upgrading.

[shell ermine]

Honestly, on console at least, BFV looks better than 2042. And that's the PS4 version of BFV vs the PS5 version of 2042

[vocal tusk]

If you encounter an engine issue in UE5, you are entirely reliant on Epic to fix it

[unique steeple]

I think bethesda needs to move on to new engine

[shell ermine]

Less people that give money to Epic the better

Fuck them

And fuck Tim Sweeney

[vocal tusk]

Tell us how you really feel 😄

[shell ermine]

Dude is the Elon Musk of video games

Destructively disruptive for his personal financial gain

[severe oyster]

dead game

[unique steeple]

what game should we play now

After battlefield 2042 being dead

Not dead but abandoned

[pine roost]

2042

game's still fun

[velvet sand]

whatever you want, 7.2 is still coming next month

[shell ermine]

Back to BFV

[pine roost]

7.1 might have some decent stuff in it

[shell ermine]

That's why they added EA Anti-Cheat

[unique steeple]

I just play battlefield 1 and 2042 on cycles

[shell ermine]

Knew people would flock back to the superior game

[pine roost]

of course I'm still looking out for some damn heli fixes, but I think I'm entering a delusional state at this point

[unique steeple]

what keybinding u use for heli

[pine roost]

default

[unique steeple]

For pitch up and pitch down

[pine roost]

still default

[unique steeple]

u pitch with arrows?

[pine roost]

mouse up to point nose up

[unique steeple]

damn thats possible?

[pine roost]

yeah?

[unique steeple]

I always found it slow

[pine roost]

that's what it is off the bat

[violet otter]

It is interesting timing they added anti cheat a few days before ending support for the current game

[pine roost]

turn up heli control sens, and vehicle sens

it's more than possible

[unique steeple]

wait thats possible?

[pine roost]

I know only one madman who uses keys to pitch

[unique steeple]

Can those senstivity controls make plane move like same in warthunder lol

[pine roost]

ah, war thunder player, I see

[unique steeple]

I was learning with keybindings and using mouse just to spin

[pine roost]

in that case, no

you can't replicate mouse aim in the same way

[ebon pilot]

it's me

[unique steeple]

i didnt even know u could change vehicle senstivity

[pine roost]

there are two separate sliders, one for helis specifically and another for all vehicles

[unique steeple]

all vehicles that means jets too?

[pine roost]

literally right next to the infantry sens slider

jets use the vehicle sens as their base, but there's an additional slider that multiplies that for jets specifically

[unique steeple]

So will it move the pitch of helicopter faster right

I will try it later then

[pine roost]

depends how you set up the multipliers, just find something that isn't detrimental and break into it

[full burrow]

I think tanks/vehicles in 2042 are fine but air vehicles are so busted, even if you make it your job to babysit their death they can just spend 3 seconds going out of range/hiding and waiting for flares

[unique steeple]

i have always crashed helicopter to ground lol after flying for 10 minutes

[pine roost]

that's just modern vehicles

[unique steeple]

Liz is Op to control those annoying heli users

[spare pasture]

3

Shotguns

Primaries

[unique steeple]

Other than that everything useless

[spare pasture]

In 2 years

[full burrow]

I use liz a lot, and the range on her rocket is pretty shit and only the smallest heli gets one shotted

meaning a good pilot will just run away and hide/repair

[unique steeple]

Unless ur some God and one shot with rpg or m5

[pine roost]

though that sraw.... really doesn't need such a high zoom

[spare pasture]

Battlefield 2042 discontinued at age 2 years and 4 months

[ancient sandal]

yeah

[ionic crater]

Any lfg ?? Ps5

[ancient sandal]

S7 last season

[quaint vector]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[ionic crater]

Add me bro , this my psn tag

[spare pasture]

No m1014

[pine roost]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007

[spare pasture]

This game had 0 big levolutions

[amber kelp]

levolutions are bad

[spare pasture]

But cool 😎

[bitter mulch]

even the big weather storms dissapeard with the first season

[spare pasture]

Bro the weather storms barely even threw things around

Crazy how the last new map was just an Arica harbor asset flip

[bitter mulch]

its still a top 3 map

[hybrid steppe]

Kinda poetic in a way

[amber kelp]

thats kinda sad

[spare pasture]

Haven is like a 6/10 on conquest

[naive quiver]

📌

[spare pasture]

Proud

🥶

[azure schooner]

Arica Harbor was one of my favorites. Tbf bc2 maps were all solid for their size.

[spare pasture]

I guess we have to wait till next year now

[naive quiver]

It's time to put an end to it ( battlefield 2042)

[ebon pilot]

they existed in S2 though

[bitter mulch]

i hope in the next game we will go back to open maps, in bf2042 alot of them are three lanes

[ebon pilot]

LOL

[spare pasture]

[pine roost]

0.0

[spare pasture]

Have you played on the prerework maps

[pine roost]

tell me that's sarcasm

[spare pasture]

Sure most of the post launch maps were 2-3 lanes in a horizontal pillar but

[slow tulip]

Is the next bf coming out at the end of 2025?

[shy grotto]

Gooodbye 2042~

[pine roost]

maybe

[naive quiver]

[spare pasture]

🤔probably

[bitter mulch]

spearhead, reclaimed, redacted the all have lines where you need to go, its not as open as in old games

[ebon pilot]

those are just the new maps

the originals are all open

2042 needed laned maps

[spare pasture]

3 of the new maps which 2 of them were 64 only and one of them was just metro but 2042

[bitter mulch]

flashpoint is the best in this game

[spare pasture]

For getting sniped in the middle

[bitter mulch]

naah

[naive quiver]

Next, everyone slowly leaves the game and lets the AIs continue to fight.

[full burrow]

people really shouldnt be bothered about seasons ending

[spare pasture]

Still crazy that this game had only 3 primary shotguns

[full burrow]

its not like they did much

[naive quiver]

they did a lot but never really got what people wants

[wide shore]

Not bothered and kinda expected

[spare pasture]

A lot is a way of putting things

[pine roost]

trouble is, some people require some kind of challenge / pass / grind to play for to find a reason to play the game. To them no new skins means no reason to play. Which is a rough mindset but I'd imagine those are the folks who are the loudest

[full burrow]

few guns, few maps, nothing crazy, game doesnt rly change

[bitter mulch]

next time they really need to put some work in for weapons, gunsmith...what really matters in a fps

[spare pasture]

I’m mildly bothered because this game only has 3 primary shotguns

[spare pasture]

Classes and maps

[pine roost]

movement

[spare pasture]

The gunsmith in this game is fine

[pine roost]

actually, everything

[full burrow]

weekly challenges still remain, there will be silly events for those people too

[bitter mulch]

that too

[pine roost]

just make everything good

[spare pasture]

Just don’t be 2042

That should be the plan

[pine roost]

tbf there are some things I'd like to see carried over

[bitter mulch]

noo, gunsmith in Battlefield Play 4 Free was better than this

[livid swift]

that message was CORPORATE af

[full burrow]

2042 could have been GREAT if only it was a complete game

not a combination of half asses ideas

[spare pasture]

Great if it was a good game

Well I guess this means we’re all gonna slowly fade away into the redacted 24/7 lobbies

And fuck hazard zone

[pine roost]

i'm all for that, redacted conquest is fun

[dusty sparrow]

with vehicles too though

[spare pasture]

Oh yeah the stadium is returning lmao last map

[livid swift]

ironic how the last map we will get was actually part of one launch map. DICE pls

[spare pasture]

I want to get mad at something else this game didn’t do

[slow tulip]

The next one must have naval combat

[spare pasture]

Oh yeah this game didn’t get naval combat

Even though the hovercraft exists and the mav

[slow tulip]

Bf4 had paracels storm

[spare pasture]

AND 0 DIVING

[slow tulip]

Add ac 130 gunship too

[dusty sparrow]

and the exodus as an part of the lore

[slow tulip]

Add a commander mode

[spare pasture]

2 factions

[pine roost]

i honestly don't care much for any of those things

nice to have, but not really a dealbreaker

[slow tulip]

Give us Heligoland Bight

[slow tulip]

But set in a modern time

[bitter mulch]

BF2 sequel and we are good to go

[spare pasture]

Well now we move onto the next phase

[slow tulip]

Battlefield cold war when?

[bitter mulch]

with different maps, factions...

[spare pasture]

The speculation and theorizing of a new battlefield

[pine roost]

would rather that than dwell on what 2042 didn't do

[spare pasture]

At least I got 500 hours squeezed out of 60 buckaroos

[slow tulip]

If the rumors are true then we are getting a battlefield that is NATO vs a PMC(Source Tom Henderson)

[pine roost]

the most reliable

[spare pasture]

Bro what pmc would be big enough to rival nato

[slow tulip]

Also a f2p battle royal is coming which shouldn't

[full burrow]

I told you guys, its NATO vs Disney (gone rogue), they get to sell the BEST skins that way

donuld duck ect

[bitter mulch]

was Nato ever in a BF game?

[slow tulip]

They can't compete with Warzone

[spare pasture]

I wonder how the seasonal “storyline” ends

[bitter mulch]

they can if they make it right

[slow tulip]

We sort of had it in bf2042. The us vs Russia

[kindred flint]

will we ever find out who Oz was?

[spare pasture]

Were they in bf2?

[slow tulip]

Firestorm died on arrival in bf5

[pine roost]

maybe Oz were the friends we made along the way

[slow tulip]

Hazard zone is also dead

[spare pasture]

DOA

[pine roost]

was never really alive to be honest

[bitter mulch]

US in not nato, i mean they are part of NATO but so are alot of other country

[kindred flint]

no friends have been made

[bitter mulch]

it was not free to play and supported

[slow tulip]

US is a big part of nato

[bitter mulch]

dont think so

[kindred flint]

us is nato* fixed that

[slow tulip]

Nato is created to stay safe from Russia

[bitter mulch]

yes, it is part of NATO, but its not just US

[spare pasture]

NATO was in bf2 modern combat

[bitter mulch]

didnt play modern combat

[slow tulip]

Give us bf1942 remake. BF1942 had submarines, aircraft carrier

[spare pasture]

Ps2 bf2

[bitter mulch]

only the original ''wellcome to duty''

[spare pasture]

They won’t

[slow tulip]

Portal doesn't count

[spare pasture]

So how many maps this game die with? 13?

14

And the 6 port maps

[slow tulip]

The problem with battlefield is they are trying to replicate what's making the most money

[slow tulip]

The old DICE left for one simple reason that is creative freedom

[spare pasture]

Funny how portal was also doa

[unique steeple]

Battlepass and skins

[spare pasture]

In content

[unique steeple]

Enlisted also died because of greed

[bitter mulch]

that could be made better then it was

[unique steeple]

It makes sense to put battlepass in free games only

[slow tulip]

That's why you have specialists. If they had characters similar to bf5 then it would be less of a problem

[unique steeple]

Whats the point of paying for game

[spare pasture]

I wonder how long or will 2042 dip to the point where you can’t find 128 servers anymore

[spare depot]

RIP BF2042 so glad i never spent a penny on it

🙏🏻

[unique steeple]

Case and key system is way better

[spare pasture]

5 euros🥶

[pine roost]

ah yes, gambling is so much better

[spare pasture]

I guess I won’t have to save my bfcoins anymore

[spare depot]

not even that i just played it for free with my free months of game pass

lol yes i have 1000 bf coins but idk what to use it on

[spare pasture]

I’ll just use it on whatever I need a milsim headgear or uniform for

[bitter mulch]

i pre ordered the ultimate edtion for 130€

[unique steeple]

I just bought gamepass

[spare pasture]

You’re faith in dice was your undoing

[unique steeple]

because poor

[bitter mulch]

it was my first BF that i pre ordered haha

[unique steeple]

I think only game i have actually bought in past 3 years is fallout new vegas

[amber kelp]

if you need this to play a game then the game is not worth your time.
More people need to realize this

[slow tulip]

People would preorder the next battlefield anyway even though how bad bf2042 was at launch

Wait at least a month after the release of the next bf

[pine roost]

i've gone on a massive classic game buying spree, feels good

fnv is a good pick

[slow tulip]

Support platforms like gog

[unique steeple]

But what does preorder do beside saving the user’s money if they are going to release it in unfinished state

[slow tulip]

Some Preorder comes with unique bonuses

[pine roost]

I got it for the early beta access, but I was unbelievably naive back then

[full burrow]

omg preorder exlusive skin wooow

[slow tulip]

Also they said a playable game at launch is a brutal expectation

[unique steeple]

so if no one preorders the battlefield 6 will it make any difference if the game will be good or bad

[pine roost]

no

[cosmic dragon]

aint no year 2 of content you got year 1.7

[slow tulip]

Cod is getting worse after every release but people keep buying it each year

[full burrow]

if anything preorder are a bad thing for the consumer

[pine roost]

I doubt the funds they gain 4 months before launch will allow for any signficant improvements in development

[cosmic dragon]

havent bought a cod game since cold war

[unique steeple]

Yeahh so preorder just saves money

[full burrow]

If the company gets most of its "expected" sales before the game even releases it gives them justification (to them) to stop working on it as much

[patent path]

you can ask for a refund if the game is shit

[unique steeple]

I think because people dont have much options left , valorant and csgo all are crap

[slow tulip]

People were saying they won't preorder again after BF4's bad launch but they do anyway

[pine roost]

still got plenty of good shooters besides those

[slow tulip]

There is also the delta force game is coming which is trying to be BF and COD

[cosmic dragon]

i wont tho

[unique steeple]

But playerbase is dominated by those games

[cosmic dragon]

i didnt preorder bf5, 1 or hardline

[naive quiver]

Not enough reason to get refund because the game is shit

[pine roost]

may have more players, doesn't really limit your options though

[full burrow]

anyone remember the csgo battle royal, it was so bad it was actually hilarious

[pine roost]

good times

[unique steeple]

I was playing battlefront 2 , 2 years back and only had to quit just because there were 5-10 players per server

[spare pasture]

Same lmao

[unique steeple]

Yea i remember it was 2019

[cosmic dragon]

that exists?

[pine roost]

does cs2 even have danger zone still?

[spare pasture]

Context

[full burrow]

just dont lol

[unique steeple]

i dont get it how people enjoy planting bomb and defusing bomb since 2000

[spare pasture]

Like Csgo had a BR

[pine roost]

same reason people still play chess after centuries

[slow tulip]

I pre-ordered cyberpunk and it's worth it.

[full burrow]

yeah I had never even played CSGO until the BR came out and they did a free weekend or w/e and wow was it awfulllll

[slow tulip]

Cdpr redeemed themselves

[spare pasture]

That game actually was a game

[cosmic dragon]

how do i play it

[spare pasture]

Although broken as hell and in need of many many updates

[pine roost]

don't think cs2 has it anymore

[unique steeple]

thats a good point damn cant argue with that

[full burrow]

I kinda grew up with CS like the old ones, then I played Counter Strike source, and by the time CSGO came out I really had 0 interest in playing it

get bored of playing the same game lol

[spare pasture]

Did counter strike global offensive have an actual battle royal mode

[pine roost]

yes

it did

[slow tulip]

There are also people who bought skull and bones at full prce

[unique steeple]

Still currently cs and valorant are the most popular games online

[full burrow]

ummm if its not in game then they probably removed it

[unique steeple]

Yel

Yep*

[spare pasture]

That’s crazy

[pine roost]

it was

[spare pasture]

I’ve never heard of that

[full burrow]

it was in the main game not a seperate one

[unique steeple]

It used to take 10 mins to find a match in that mod

[slow tulip]

Yes, it's called danger zone

[cosmic dragon]

damn

[full burrow]

dw you did not miss out

[pine roost]

it had a similar economy system, map contracts, loot caches, goofy gadgets like repulsion mines

[cosmic dragon]

i wanted to play half life 2 battle royale

[slow tulip]

The battle royal wasn't the same as other battle royal as apex, pubg

[unique steeple]

how is the finals

[slow tulip]

Why does Valve get exception for microtransactions, lootboxes

[pine roost]

don't know about it's playercounts but it's still hella fun

[slow tulip]

When other companies does the same, they get hate

[cosmic dragon]

pixel gun 3d

came out on steam recently and its literally pay to win

[pine roost]

valve still get hate, it's just been so long it's become normal for the most part. it's the whole 'you can technically get it for free' thing that means it's still around

[slow tulip]

You can actually profit with CS2's crates by selling on the steam market which is gambling

[cosmic dragon]

i love gambling

[naive quiver]

I’m quite excited what will Enders next video

[unique steeple]

Roblox’s phantom forces have better skin system lol just win games get crates unlock it

[naive quiver]

[pine roost]

best skin system definitely titanfall 2's

[unique steeple]

I never played that one

whole series

Even tho i have heard about it alot

[pine roost]

although I can't not have the word 'best' in the same sentence as 'titanfall' so I am very biased

[pine roost]

simply put, you level from 1 to 100, then raise you generation (mastery), and reset your level back to 1. So at certain levels at certain generation ranks you get skins

it's just gameplay to get skins

[unique steeple]

Damn

[pine roost]

and all the assassinations and whatnot are just challenges that stay around forever

[unique steeple]

Thats a good system

Sounds like atleast

[pine roost]

the only thing I recall being paid are the prime titans, but like.... i'd actually be willing to pay for those

game's too good

[unique steeple]

I have never really done any micro transaction

I maybe do it if i get time when i get some job after finishing university

it just feels immoral to spend ur parents money or hard earned side hustle money on some skins , there can be better investments

[remote kiln]

microtransactions are not investments lol

[unique steeple]

yes

I mean there are better way to spend money

[pine roost]

honestly i see no point in buying skins

would rather spend that money on some dlc that expands gameplay potential

[unique steeple]

Like u can save it slowly and invest it or just save some dollars for a upcoming game

[unique steeple]

I have a friend addicted to valorant he believes buying skin improves ur skills

They get some superior confident feel and some shit like that

[pine roost]

been there, people always talk about that in game

will admit those skins are rather pricey though

[unique steeple]

Yeah

I think thats why battlepass was invented

[pine roost]

no correlation

2042, fortnite, pubg, valorant all have fairly pricey skins but still have battle passes

[unique steeple]

like u get some currency through it save for ur fav skin

[pine roost]

i guess

[unique steeple]

will battlefield 6 include campaign though lol

We dont even know the title of game

[pine roost]

i believe criterion are working on that now

[unique steeple]

im asuming bf6

[pine roost]

used to be ridgeline, but they closed

[pine roost]

well we all thought 2042 would be called bf6, bf6 is what people will refer to it as until a name drop though

[unique steeple]

I feel like they might have already started working on battlefield 6 side by side since launch of 2042

[pine roost]

definitely

the next game would have started either a couple months before or directly after 2042's launch

[unique steeple]

Leaks say it will come on 2025 but it can be delayed

better delay than having a horrible launch

[robust vapor]

so many disgusting AA wildcats in conquest

[spare depot]

facts

[hybrid steppe]

I would even be fine with 2026, just as long they don't release the next one undercooked, that trend with Battlefield games needs to end.

[remote kiln]

its not a leak

its in their financial statements theyre expecting it in the second half of 2025

[unique steeple]

i hope they add the destruction like in bf4 atleast even improving it

[unique steeple]

Oh i thought it was some leak

[hybrid steppe]

Destruction is fine, all I care about is good and variety in maps.

Large, medium and small maps

[unique steeple]

thats our basic need

fundamental right

Lol

[hybrid steppe]

Infantry, infantry+some vehicles and full on vehicle maps

Just like it has been in the past, is that so hard?

[unique steeple]

I see battlefield 3 even today the graphics impress me

it was too good for 2011

Battlefield 2042 dont give same feels

[pine roost]

yes, it is. 2042 has those things, but getting them working together is another story

it's just that 2042's initial design direction steered those systems in a direction that didn't quite land

although, I do still have some hope given the feedback sessions from this game

[hybrid steppe]

Bit of an understatement there

[reef cliff]

Heli's too op. I don't see anything wrong with many AA wildcats.

[unique steeple]

if u wanna know about what went wrong with 2042 there is video on that by a guy named big boss

its quite detailed

i did not even know anything going on backend

[hybrid steppe]

The "BattleFailed 2042" video? It's alright but quite dated, it came out at the time of Season 1.

[unique steeple]

Since i dont follow news that much

[unique steeple]

Yep

[pine roost]

I feel I already know enough given I've been following along the whole way

[unique steeple]

What senstivity u use for helicopter

[vestal coyote]

Battlefield 2042 is not getting new seasons

seems like we are getting close to Battlefield's next game (which is releasing 2025)

[unique steeple]

i just put it on 100

[vestal coyote]

they are also putting more teams on the next Battlefield game

[pine roost]

100 for the heli slider, and I think 16 for the vehicle sens? 12 or 16, somewhere in that range i think

[vocal tusk]

No hope next game releases in 2025. Probably summer 2026.

[unique steeple]

i feel like i will have to practice daily to get good with heli

[remote kiln]

the official guidance as of now is 2025

if there's delays probably 2026

[vocal tusk]

Hard to see a competent single player and multiplayer being done in essentially 2.5 years.

[remote kiln]

that's all we have from EAs financial statements, there's no other source we can go off

[pine roost]

you will. took me several months to get the hang of it, but i've been flying since bf4 so that was way back then

[silent urchin]

Is no one playing portal? Player count seems so low. I have the largest search settings possible but only find servers with 8-10 players

[remote kiln]

are you on last gen?

[unique steeple]

did u practice on portal or solo ai

[azure schooner]

so bf2042 season 7 will last for like two years?

[dapper night]

And Classes don't forget "Actual Class System" idc if they copy BFV's Class System with its soldier customization again

[vocal tusk]

lol no, season 7 will end with the battle pass...then probably 4/5 bug fixing/balancing updates...then nothing more

[azure schooner]

Of course, how can we forget the seasonal cosmetic limited time skins that will come

[dapper night]

Also a server browser with RSP at launch

[azure schooner]

there may not be no more seasons, but HO HO HO SANTA CLAUS SKIN

[frozen hemlock]

Just loaded up the game, hopped into a match, 40-425

Aaaand it’s over. That was a fun loading screen.

[drowsy shuttle]

Glad they ended the content for bf 2042. Game is saturated. It's still fun to play it once in a while tho.

Now let's see what they will do with the next battlefield

[slim hound]

That sucks, especially when it's a good map. 😭
Love your username your username is the best username

[drowsy shuttle]

I dunno if his username is the best username but it's definitely a username

[frozen hemlock]

Oh thanks

[strong snow]

Long live bf4

[frozen hemlock]

My first and favorite

[patent pivot]

WR coming soon

[frozen hemlock]

Man, what’s it’s like to be on a team whose vehicles do their jobs?

[shell ermine]

Random deviation was awful in bf4

[quasi token]

Hi guys can someone help me how to fix the game starting from gamepass ultimate? Btf2042

[fervent zodiac]

Straight up pretty new to this franchise, I've played a bit of bf5 around when it first came out, and been trying to get more into bf2042. You all think it's a good game to get started with?

[unique steeple]

what is the issue

[frozen hemlock]

I really like 5, idk about 2042

My friend says 1 is the best, hands down

[stiff inlet]

Bf4 is peak Battlefield

[frozen hemlock]

But he also says Siege is a good game so idk if his opinion can be trusted.

[quasi token]

Game already running error

[unique steeple]

battlefield 2042 support is ending today and they moving on to next month , 2042 is fun ngl but in my timezone sometimse the servers are dead during morning time and i dont know how long will the game be alive even at active time ( in which most players play) but currently yeah its cool

[patent pivot]

4 was good with questionable balance

[full burrow]

1 is better than 5 imo

[patent pivot]

And no ai bots

[fervent zodiac]

Lmao I don't like siege at all.

[patent pivot]

Agree. Siege is fucking.shit now

Used to be cool back then

Now it's garbage

[fervent zodiac]

Fr tho

[elfin coral]

It fell off since 2020

[unique steeple]

i think closing game on task manager and closing ea then starting will fix

[patent pivot]

2018*

[unique steeple]

or just launching game from ea app

[fervent zodiac]

I've heard a lot about bf4, most of my older friends played it and loved it

[elfin coral]

BF4 was my first battlefield

[quasi token]

Is giving me the error before opening task manager 🤦🏻‍♂️

[patent pivot]

If you're on PC, I highly recommend waiting for WR to come out

[fervent zodiac]

Oh damn

[stiff inlet]

I used to play on my ps3 back then it was amazing. Tbf it's the only bf I played. Tried bf1 didn't like it cuz I like a modern setting with modern weapons.

[fervent zodiac]

I am sadly not on PC, I can't afford it because of college lol

[unique steeple]

when it gives error close it and then relaunch if its not working idk

[fervent zodiac]

Yeah

[unique steeple]

then direct launch from ea will help or just sign in sign out of xbox

[pine roost]

Custom portal mode with no vehicle respawn timers, with bots for aim

[patent pivot]

Rip

If you don't play modern games

You can get something okay

[fervent zodiac]

Earlier today I noticed that you could damn near drift the tanks in bf2042, haven't really been into vehicles much

Kinda surprised on those movement mechanics tho

[patent pivot]

Ok

[full burrow]

idk about tanks but getting roadkills with the transport jeep is fun

[fervent zodiac]

I'd have to try that out lol

Just to do a lil poll, what's your main go to weapon in 2042?

[patent pivot]

The legacy guns

None of that vanilla shit

[fervent zodiac]

Don't think I've used them yet

[patent pivot]

Well unlock them

They're way better than other guns

[slim hound]

I like the M5A3 because I'm a basic bitch
And the AK5C because I'm definitely a basic bitch

[fervent zodiac]

I usually change based off of the map and game mode I'm in, if that makes sense

But my go to mains are the SFAR, BSVM, K30, and the SWS, sometimes NTW-50 depending on if I wanna be a bitch lol

[pine roost]

Vhx at the moment

[patent pivot]

M39 stans

And type 88

And 412 rex

[fervent zodiac]

I really have to do more gun challenges lol

[patent pivot]

Ok

[ebon pilot]

:(

[fervent zodiac]

Oof

That sucks tho

[quasi token]

Non of them working

[unique steeple]

Sorry man idk

Searching the exact problem on google and adding reddit in front of it might give some solution

[fervent zodiac]

Reddit has some helpful answers, sometimes lol

[unique steeple]

I was having some mouse bug recently i didnt find on Reddit so just posted it and it helped

But most of times u get answers without trying

[fervent zodiac]

I agree

[patent pivot]

But anyways

[unique steeple]

M416. , pkp lmg and ak5c

[fervent zodiac]

The pkp is pretty good

[unique steeple]

Depending on server

[fervent zodiac]

Yeah, that's how I am too

Also, your pfp is legendary, Som

Fuckin love it lol

[unique steeple]

I made it through midjourney ai

Back then it was free

Just wrote red panda holding a gun

Since red panda is life

[fervent zodiac]

Red panda should be life

Man I'm bored as shit

[arctic grove]

Bf 2025 is bf’s last hurrah

[strange sentinel]

so basically season 7 is a reused asset map, 3 guns and another reused asset map with a jet that was in the game files for a while lol

thats the end

[strange sentinel]

do you think we could see the death of this franchise if the next fails?

[arctic grove]

Idk

I just got here

[strange sentinel]

cause honestly, i can kinda see it at this point

[ebon pilot]

most maps are reused asset maps

[strange sentinel]

2042 motto

[ebon pilot]

that's how maps are made

in most games

[strange sentinel]

shipping containers galore

and sand bags

then theres just stadium

it is what it is

hopefully dice and the other studios can pull through with a good game

cause i think the hype for battlefield has died down with the past 2 titles

[ebon pilot]

i think there's still plenty of excitement for the series

[strange sentinel]

if they get a good game out first

[ebon pilot]

you can tell because people won't shut the fuck up about how much they hate the previous ones

[strange sentinel]

2042 still has bugged input

[strange sentinel]

the previous battlefields? which ones

[ebon pilot]

$CurrentBattlefield

[strange sentinel]

the current one is awful yeah, compared to previous titles

[ebon pilot]

when it was V people complained all the time about V. now it's 2042 and people complain all the time about it

[strange sentinel]

V is also pretty bad, not as bad as 2042 tho

[kindred flint]

50-17 with m60 on arica finishing my shoulder fired missile damage mission jesus

[strange sentinel]

i hope the next battlefield could actually bring the series back, 2042 feels so far off from an actual battlefield game

[kindred flint]

oh apparently i unlocked the wrapped for the m60 now

[patent pivot]

Anyway

[strange sentinel]

???

[patent pivot]

Nothing

[arctic grove]

whelp, it's been a fun ride, i knew this was going to happen

[naive quiver]

https://youtu.be/tBF93FYNLJ4?si=QB5_rgYAUdMpJzYo

[sour root]

is there a help channel?

[patent pivot]

Fucking 7

[naive quiver]

Rude

[patent pivot]

No

Why not 6

[naive quiver]

2042 is 6

[kindred flint]

isnt it 7?

[patent pivot]

Explain 2142

That isn't mainline ?

[kindred flint]

1942-bf2-3-4-1-5-2042 im forgetting about 2142 because i never played it

[ebon pilot]

1942, 2, 2142, Bad Company, Bad Company 2, 3, 4, Hardline, 1, 5, 2042

[sour root]

?

[kindred flint]

oh right hardline was a thing

[patent pivot]

Side game

[ebon pilot]

forgot Bad Company

[kindred flint]

bad trash console game or bc2 which was ...midly annoying because it was a pc game that still had a hint of console game?

[full burrow]

woahwoahwoah

bc2 was amazing

[strange crag]

How do you guys think 2042's legacy will be remembered

[vestal coyote]

as garbage just like Hardline

[strange crag]

Thats what i was thinking

[vestal coyote]

Battlefield games typically dont change reception from launch that much, I mean Battlefield 4 did I guess but Battlefield Hardline did not

and I liked Hardline

but the community sentiment remains the same, its a trash game and that's how it is

[strange crag]

Although one could argue 2042 was left in a better state than hardline

[vestal coyote]

I just hope the final update adds some sort of offline mode

otherwise 2042 will be completely unplayable at some point

[drowsy rose]

where were you when 2042 was kill

[vestal coyote]

Battlefield 2042 is completely online compared to prior Battlefield games

[drowsy rose]

I was at home, sleeping

aussie friend hpone me

[strange crag]

Yo can you share some of that copium

[drowsy rose]

"2042 is kill."

"Wild."

[slim hound]

2042's legacy is Embark Studios first and only video game HAHA
2042's legacy is how not to production/market a video game

[strange crag]

"No."

[drowsy rose]

RIP my railgun

[vestal coyote]

Battlefield 7 will learn a lot from Battlefield 2042's mistakes

here's hoping they dont fuck it up

[drowsy rose]

because we know the lowest common dominator masses are gonna will into exsistence Modern Low Speed High Drag Operatorcore

Meanwhile we're this close to have a 2142 sequel at out grasp

[strange crag]

Man i am making sure my expectations are at the bottom. Like past the center of the earth and into hell low

[vestal coyote]

reasons I think BF7 will be different, I could still be wrong, is because they literally have every studio on this game which is insane, it seems like they arent joking this time

[ebon pilot]

4 is a mixed bag. there's still a lot of people that will tell you about how much it SUCKED at launch

[slim hound]

based on what they've said we're in for another squad-based, half-baked Battle Royale where every Operator has their own abilities and shit

[azure schooner]

BF2042 can hardly be called a battlefield if you ask me. Music is shit nothing in common with the BF Theme, OPERATORS?! core features missing, most uninteractive scoreboard/squad-system

[vestal coyote]

yea typically Battlefield games, their reception doesn't change much from launch

if it sucked

it will always be seen as that

DICE needs to ensure they launch their next game near perfect or they are fucked lmao

[strange crag]

Wasn't that literally the case for 2042? They pulled the plug on BFV, Battlefront 2, and Need For Speed for that

[vestal coyote]

no game is ever perfect of course (unless we are talking about GTA 6, yes it will be perfect)

but Battlefield needs to try as hard as it can

[ebon pilot]

(it will not be perfect)

[vestal coyote]

There wasn't as many studios working on 2042 as Battlefield 7, not to mention they had no idea what 2042 was going to be up until the last 18 months iirc, so it kept changing, where as from what we are hearing with Battlefield 7 is that they have a concrete vision this time

[drowsy rose]

Key gameplay mechanics THEY SHOULD actually have in the next One.

1. Weapon Plus System - this shit made playing the game way more fun since I didn't need to enter a loadout screen every time I wanted a new scope
2. BF5's general movement abilities
3. Maybe commander mode
4. Keep the current system of squad buddy revives those are groovy as well

[vestal coyote]

Class based system needs to return

no specialists

[ebon pilot]

it's funny how much specialists in their current form aren't actually that different from past games from a gameplay perspective

[elfin coral]

Ever again

[drowsy rose]

5. BF5's attrition mechanic for vehicles and damage models - frankly you should be able to literally shoot the tracks of a tank and track it.

[ebon pilot]

but people are adament that they're the downfall of civilization

[vestal coyote]

they arent part of the franchise

[drowsy rose]

Hero shoot mechanics are awful

[vestal coyote]

and they should never be part of it

BF is class based

[drowsy rose]

Nobody cares if they're elite skins

[vestal coyote]

and CoD was class based at one point too, look where operators got them

[ebon pilot]

and 2042 has classes have you played the game?

[drowsy rose]

But there's no reason a recon drone, wall hacks devicves, spot blocking,grappling hooks, and ballistic shields needed to be character locked

[vestal coyote]

specialists + classes, yes I have played the game lmfao

[strange crag]

2042 was not a case of "it's not perfect." It wasn't functional for MONTHS. Terrible specialist system, horrible balancing that ripples of can still be felt to this day, every map sucked that they had to rework them ALL, and let's not forget how piss poor the first 2 seasons were for content

[vestal coyote]

specialists are not needed

Battlefield and CoD are both class based shooters, this isnt overwatch mate, go play that if you want that stuff

CoD introducing operators fucked the franchise

[drowsy rose]

COD operators are also IIRC just costmetic things

[vestal coyote]

now its all about $30 dollar bundles lmao

[vestal coyote]

yea

but it ruins the game and the immersion it gives, if we talking battlefield in this instance

[ebon pilot]

from a gameplay perspective that's how the game is. "specialists" are an aesthetic. in 2042 a specialist is a gadget + a passive trait. that's it. there's nothing else a specialist does from a gameplay perspective

[vestal coyote]

no one wants to play Battlefield and see a Mickey Mouse specialist on the field, would be funny tho, but ruins the game

Same way CoD went way to far with Operators in their franchise

you have fucking cat operators in CoD what a joke lmao

[drowsy rose]

Kay so here's the thing - picture specialists are just skins. Now their abilities are class wide. Rao can use wall hacks, Casper can put down spot blockers, Blasco can have Casper motion tracker, and their drone is a all class ability much like the dog

Boom now you have various sub-classes of the main class.

You can mix and match to an immense degree and aren't locked to characters.

[full burrow]

thing is doesnt matter how "oraganised" the development of the new battlefield looks right now, its all owned by a greed a monster and there is nothing stopping someone from later down the line just going " yeah that will do, hype is good, release"

[ebon pilot]

that's just specialists again but you've made a different aesthetic choice

that's not a gameplay choice

[drowsy rose]

No you're wrong lol

[ebon pilot]

no you're not thinking

[drowsy rose]

Because ANYONE playing recon can use ANY of the specialists abilities

They're class gadgets

you're not forced into a play style by picking Rao

[ebon pilot]

Rao is his gadget and trait

that's all he is

[vestal coyote]

pretty sure you cant get the wing suit that sundance has for any other character because its TIED to Sundance, that's not an aesthetic thing, that's actually a gameplay difference because wing suits function differently to parachutes

[ebon pilot]

Sundance is her grenade gadget and wingsuit trait

[vestal coyote]

exactly

[drowsy rose]

model swapping will not ruin it

[vestal coyote]

thats a problem

[ebon pilot]

that's her gameplay mechanic

[vestal coyote]

thats the problem

its not Battlefield

it shouldnt be tied to a character

[drowsy rose]

BF5 did it right too with the class specializations you can chose

[vestal coyote]

please tell me you played any prior Battlefield before engaging in this discussion?

Battlefield 2?

Battlefield 4?

[drowsy rose]

You didn't even need those added abilities

[vestal coyote]

at least Battlefield Play4Free... lmao

[drowsy rose]

BF4 had the squad upgrade tree

[dapper river]

It's mostly just bad optics. I personally don't want to be forced to play as Overwatch/Apex-esque "unique" characters with backstories in a multiplayer game where there are only 12 different specialists for servers that can hold up to 128 players. Starts to feel like clone wars, and not in a good way! Tarnishes the appeal of Battlefield for me, where you're just a tiny cog in a massive machine of war. If the specialist system allowed you to mix and match heads/bodies while keeping the milsim aesthetic for the factions, while keeping the current gameplay for the specialists exactly the same, then I think it would have been much better recieved.

[vestal coyote]

nothing and I mean nothing should be tied to an operator/specialist/skin whatever it is

[drowsy rose]

2142 even had the original squad leader abilities like the beacon

[vestal coyote]

Exactly

if you want specialists

go to OVERWATCH

I aint playing Paladins, I am playing Battlefield

[ebon pilot]

And that's aesthetics! But it's not a problem with the gameplay of specialists as a concept

[vestal coyote]

I dont care about goofy customization or specialists, I want an immersive movie like experience with Battlefield as that's how it is

customization is less of an issue (as the umbrella is big here)

but specialists are the problem here

[drowsy rose]

There's NOTHING that stops Zayne from using a grappling hook

Or Sundance freebasing Zayne's super cocaine he gets on kills

*which I'd remove anyway that just would encourage a meta"

before they reverted to a class system you basically have a meta loadout.

[vestal coyote]

the aesthetics arguement doesnt work here, because we know what it devolves into

again, see: Call of Duty

the answer is no and remains no

specialists are not welcome

before it turns into mickey mouse and cat specialists like Call of Duty is turning into

no thanks

I would have not argued against it really, trust me, had I not seen what CoD turned into

(wanting to become Fortnite + Overwatch)

it's just proven that eventually it goes tooooo far

and then it becomes goofy as fuck

anything to make a quick buck out of a 30 dollar bundle, amirite Activision

[ebon pilot]

OK so in the next game, DICE introduces class tech gadgets. With tech gadgets, each class gets

• A choice of gadget + trait
• An open class gadget
• A class grenade
• A secondary
• Any primary but certain classes of primaries get certain buffs

[vestal coyote]

there's no reason to defend specialists other than wanting the franchise to devolve into Overwatch and/or Fortnite with how they operate with their skins / legends or how they call it

[ebon pilot]

how does that sound?

[full burrow]

some people want new content, some just want new skins - one is a lot less effort from devs in order to get money

[vestal coyote]

my whole point is, I dont want something that devolves into what CoD did with operators

trust me EA attempted that with specialists but 2042 flopped so hard they backed away from it

[full burrow]

who gives a fuck if theres specialists or if its classes or nothing or everything - actual gameplay is what matters

[vestal coyote]

really we just need new content

[vestal coyote]

specialists can ruin the gameplay, certain stuff is literally locked behind a specialists not even a class, I could understand locking it behind a class but not a specialist dude

[full burrow]

you cant say for sure that one way will work and one way wont because on its own that systems just does not matter, its how it all comes together that is important

[fresh lintel]

Specialists are a unique idea (for Battlefield) but i feel like they need to be in their own spin-off game or something.

Specialists are the result of Battlefront 1 (which was a DICE title) so I personally enjoyed specialists.

I love having that amount of customization for my characters/loadouts.

The issue is, its not Battlefield. Albeit Battlefield has changed so much over the years.

[drowsy rose]

I actually believe no class should get a weapon bonus

[ebon pilot]

i hate class specific weapons

i think it's stupid

[fresh lintel]

Yeah same

[drowsy rose]

BF4 had a good metric a lot of all class weapons

[full burrow]

battlefield is shooting guns while lots of other people are shooting guns, cod is small teams running on tiny closed maps, bf is bigger teams on more open maps

[vestal coyote]

in the case of Battlefront, specialists worked for me but that's because of the nature of what Battlefront is, its a Star Wars game, you wanna play based off of Star Wars characters

This just isn't the case for Battlefield, you arent playing to be Obi Wan or something, you are playing to conquer zones and have a good time

[fresh lintel]

If I wanted to be locked into 4 guns i'd go play the shittier Battlefront (Battlefront 2)

[elfin coral]

It does not fit battlefield at all

[drowsy rose]

Engineers - SMGs/PDW
Support - Machine Guns
Assault - ARS
Recon - Snippers

Carbines,DMRs, and shotguns all being all class was elite

[fresh lintel]

It was a game about Mercenaries.

[drowsy rose]

Carbines - enable recon players to fulfill rolls that aren't sniping. DMRs allows other roles medium to long range, shotguns are self explanatory

[fresh lintel]

Like 2042 might as well have been the Hardline for DICE. I remember Hardline having those RnG pick a perk things.

[ebon pilot]

but that's stupid. in real life there's nothing stopping you from using different kinds of weapons. it feels like pointless categorization and separation

[vestal coyote]

Hardline wasn't a bad game imo, just not a Battlefield game

that's the issue EA has sometimes

[full burrow]

actual gunplay is important, the ability to impact the outcome of the game, having objectives to go for, being able to use person skill to achieve something in game, having good balanced, maps that are well designed, technical improvemnts thats what matters - where you do all of that while using a generic soldier, or a class or a specialist doesnt matter apart from how that ties into the above

[vestal coyote]

they forget what Battlefield is lol

[fresh lintel]

Especially if you're a Merc. You're not following a basic combat doctrine.

If you want to use a XM8 as a Recon Specialist, you're going to use a fucking XM8. 😛

[vestal coyote]

like I dont deny having fun in Hardline and 2042 but they are by no means proper Battlefield games

[full burrow]

some people say battlefield 1 isnt a battlefield game - its all opinions

[dawn cedar]

"proper battlefield games" lol

[vestal coyote]

Battlefield 1 is a Battlefield game, I mean I dont care for it much (I know I know grill me on that) but it is

[full burrow]

battlefield is relatively large scale combat, combines arms, easily accesable game for the matter

[dawn cedar]

most vague and subjective statement ever

[dapper river]

But what I'm saying is, if the specialist system was kept exactly the same as it is right now: class restrictions on gadgets, class-specific gadgets and traits, etc., but you were able to completely change characters/customize your soldier to your liking, I think that would be the best possible outcome. Instead of saying "Oh I'm an Assault but I'm playing Sundance" it would be "Oh I'm an Assault, fast-attack specialist" or something. They would effectively be subclasses, I think BFV also tried something like this? Probably would've worked better in the long run for the "live service" as the dev team wouldn't need to author a bunch of new assets and a pointless backstory every time they wanted to add a new subclass

[full burrow]

whether that is achieved via classes or specialists or anything else really doesnt matter

[elfin coral]

Exactly save that shit for a campaign

Multiplayer is about just go out and shoot

Not give a shit about characters with a “story”

[vestal coyote]

Class-based
Focus on war
Tanks, choppers, jets
Destruction (to be fair they both had it but 2042 has been argued it has less destruction compared to prior games)

Hardline didn't have some of what I mentioned, 2042 tried to move towards being specialist based

[full burrow]

so go out and shoot then, why do you care if youre using a character or a class or a specialist

[ebon pilot]

subclasses
or as some might call it: "specialization". maybe we call them... "specialists" ah fuck

[drowsy rose]

BF5 did this but the abilities were minor

[dawn cedar]

so everything that 2042 has, gotcha

[elfin coral]

I cause I have to look at it in multiplayer

[fresh lintel]

Honestly yeah. I hope we do go with a more basic soldier route. I just want to be a nameless nobody.

However I want to be MY nameless nobody. Let me customize her as I see fit (Gimme Liz's new skin as an option and i wont scream in anguish)

[drowsy rose]

Considering BF4 had squad based upgrades that barely ever had an effect on the game

[vestal coyote]

I just dont think there is a need for specialists at all, you are a soldier in a Battlefield that is it

you customize your soldier how you want, its not tied to any character like its Overwatch

[ebon pilot]

overwatch is so different from a gameplay perspective. like not even in gamemodes or objectives, but just in loadouts

[elfin coral]

Save the characters for a campaign where it belongs

[full burrow]

any system can work for a battlefield game, its about doing it right and in coherance with everything else about that title

[fresh lintel]

Like if they want to expand on the Specialist system.. Like lets say you have the 4 classes again.

But instead of choosing a character, you just choose a kit. Maybe one has the Wingsuit. One has the grapple. The XM25 and so on

[dawn cedar]

then you come full circle

[full burrow]

look at "tradional" bf class system and people will still argue over which class should perform which roles and have which gadgets and bonuses ect

[vestal coyote]

Overwatch is based on what they call legends or something (characters), you select them before the match begins, cringe imo

Just let the player be their own character lmfao

Fortnite I can understand, I mean that's kinda their only way of making money, they are a free to play game after all

[full burrow]

actually a HUGE part of overwatch is changing heroes on the go

[fresh lintel]

Well Overwatch was born thanks to MOBAs.

[dawn cedar]

and ultimates

[fresh lintel]

And MOBA's you play as someone named. Like in SMITE you play as literal gods.

[full burrow]

"I wont switch yet I need to use my ult" boi if your pick didnt achieve any results in the last 5 mins, your ult isnt gonna help, just switch xD

[fresh lintel]

Being able to switch is a blessing and a curse

[ebon pilot]

again, aesthetics. you're picking a predefined loadout / ability set. everything else is set dressing

[vestal coyote]

right but in BF no wants to change "characters", we want to change loadouts depending on the scenario although tbf I dont really do that, usually I just pick the loadout I want for the match I am in and stick with it

that's just me tho

[dawn cedar]

you mean the gun attachment system nobody ever uses

[elfin coral]

A dressing which does not fit this franchise at all

[fresh lintel]

Yeah same. Unless someones teabagging me with a meta gun, or annoying me with them. I just pick a gun and use it until i max it out or get bored.

[ebon pilot]

good thing it's not overwatch then

[vestal coyote]

yep same here

[elfin coral]

But it’s in that vein

[ebon pilot]

maybe bad people don't use it

[full burrow]

nothing is stopping you from changing loudouts, but specialists have their own unique bonus on top of class restricted gadgets which is NORMAL in bf games, so you are literally getting the same plus more

[vestal coyote]

the aesthetics arguement doesnt work, you are just reinforcing my point even harder, if anything, you are arguing for me, CoD proves that operators (being aesthetics themselves) can RUIN the game

Look at all the goofy ass operators they made

[fresh lintel]

Honestly? The gun attachment system is nice. However given the choices you have for the system? Its kinda fucking useless.

Dont need thermals, smoke counters it. For some silly reason.

[ebon pilot]

that's how smoke works

[fresh lintel]

Dont need silencers, people are oblivious.

[full burrow]

unfortunately at launch and for many months after using the attachemnt changes actually caused some fps lag, so I imagine a lot of early players trained themselves not to use it

[dawn cedar]

? most guns can go from DMR to SMG with attachments

[fresh lintel]

Dont need grips/lasers because some guns are just that accurate or one laser beats every attachment.

[vestal coyote]

you see the second part, I dont care about allat, none of that, no unique bonus, no specific characters, just classes

you are either Recon, Assualt, Medic or Engineer

nothing more

nothing less

no need for characters

you are a soldier

you are not Mickey Mouse

[full burrow]

in which case you shouldnt care who you play as?

[dawn cedar]

why should you be able to customize your appearance at all then, you are just some nameless grunt afterall

[elfin coral]

We have camos

[vestal coyote]

yea of course I wouldnt, actually I play as Sundance all the time as that's the first character that it put me on when I started 2042

[fresh lintel]

Like the only time I really change attachments on the fly is to replenish my own ammo from the 3 choices I have.

Or to switch to a higher end scope to snipe someone. Thats it.

I dont change grips. I RARELY change barrel.

[vestal coyote]

never changed it really

[dawn cedar]

you wear what the armory gives you and be happy

[vestal coyote]

I just didnt care about it and I think its useless

[full burrow]

All this tells me detectiv is that the addition of another layer of things to consider is too much for your brain - having unique abilities adds MORE to the game, if its to much for you handle....

[elfin coral]

I got promoted for all the challenges I did

[vestal coyote]

customizing an appearance is different, its your own character, its not a specialist or something, nothing is tied to your character specifically

[dawn cedar]

you are a soldier, not micky mouse

[vestal coyote]

you would actually be correct

[fresh lintel]

At the same time, this isnt CoD.

[full burrow]

many specialists being shit is whole different story but having them is a good thing imo, I like things to be difficult and having to consider your enemies on multiple levels

[vestal coyote]

right so the customization would need to be on point with war aesthetics I agree and actually, I will be honest here, I applaud EA for not making the specialists ya know goofy like CoD did with operators

[fresh lintel]

Do I like the skins in this game? Yeah.

But its the times. Skins are bound to happen. And I actually enjoy colourful skins. Like that Scorpion skin in the shop right now.

[elfin coral]

I only like a few of them

[vestal coyote]

skins that match the aesthetics of the game are fine to me, seriously, if it was me years ago, completely fine, I am only against as we have all seen what CoD has devolved into because of it or as Doc likes to say lmfao "DEMISE OF THE FRANCHISE" I find it funny lmao

[fresh lintel]

I like alot, I admit. Lots of future ones, the ones with the screens on them and shit.

[full burrow]

paid skins in a paid game just shouts greed and lack of ability to actually deliver anything better but still wanting money

[elfin coral]

Abilities I have no issue with it’s having a whole ass character with a bio for someone I’m playing in multiplayer and not in campaign that I have an issue with

[fresh lintel]

However one thing I dont want to see though is Crossover skins or fucking Nikki Minaj type skins.

[full burrow]

I hate the fact that skins exist and shit but its what plebs want nowadays

[vestal coyote]

but seeing how CoD is just adding ridicioulous shit that makes no sense to CoD from an aesthetic stand point for CoD skins is what reinforces the NO to specialists in Battlefield for me

specifically because of CoD

hence why I keep mentioning them

[fresh lintel]

Skins have existed since like UT or before 🤷‍♀️

[vestal coyote]

the cat skins dude, the fucking nicki manaj skin lmaoooo

its meant to be CoD man

[dawn cedar]

you are far to invested in this shit, its a video game. play to have fun, who cares what the person looks like

[full burrow]

thats corporate greed nothing to do with gameplay, but some people can get sold on "lore", fancy blog posts about a characters background, cool trailers ect - its just a marketing tool but considering it has no real impact on gameplay I dont mind so much

[vestal coyote]

like crazy zombie skins sure, I mean Zombies and CoD goes way back

[fresh lintel]

Listen right? Its funny to me that you can be Snoop Dog or Nikki Manaj. I find those funny but keep them in Warzone or something

[elfin coral]

And that’s the problem: greed that detracts from what the game is about

[fresh lintel]

But that Cat girl skin? The purple one with the EVA helmet?

Gimme. Gimme gimme gimme gimme

[vestal coyote]

because this is a game about being a soldier on a Battlefield? maybe I want my war games to look like war games

not everything is Fortnite

if I wanna play Fortnite and have a cool goofy skin

I go play that

lmao

[fresh lintel]

I want Catear helmets 😤

[vestal coyote]

and I do play Fortnite btw, it is fun FOR Fortnite but they have no place in BF or CoD

[vestal coyote]

I'd be lying if I said some of those operators arent fucking cool but man I still want that normal CoD experience ya know

[fresh lintel]

Yeah same lmao

[full burrow]

2042 can be considered poor overall because they took ideas and just didnt want to think them thru properly or finish them. Specialist system not a bad thing if done correctly. Is a bad thing if you just throw them without considering overall game design

[dawn cedar]

how your character looks has nothing to do with it lol, maybe stop trying to larp via the game and just play it for enjoyment

[vestal coyote]

its not about larping lmao

its about the franchise being what it is

its about soldiers

on a battlefield, the mode is conquest

[dawn cedar]

are you 12, you are just arguing in a circle

[elfin coral]

Larping is part of the fun

[vestal coyote]

I can spin that arguement on you, you do realise this right?

are you 12?

you wanna larp as mickey mouse in a game?

[fresh lintel]

Some skins I can tolerate (Cat Girl skin, some of the future ones out right now.)

But shit like Zombies? Skeletor (i love skeletor), Hellsing and Lilith? They dont belong in my god damn TDM

[vestal coyote]

see how easy that is

[full burrow]

Thing is specialist and skins do not have be one and the same. It is possible to have specialists and not have skins, just like it would be possible to have basic class system but have a ton of skins

[vestal coyote]

also Nicki Manaj lmaooooooooo

why are celebrities in my CoD game

[fresh lintel]

Snoop Dog it makes sense. He plays CoD.

[vestal coyote]

True, I will admit, 2042 actually did it well

[dawn cedar]

i have 0 issue with how my character looks, i could not care less.

[elfin coral]

WW3’s way of skins is one of the right ways to do it

[vestal coyote]

but who knows what would have happened had 2042 succeeded

[full burrow]

but if im paying £40 or whatever for a game, I dont want to be greeted with "buy this fucking battlepass" every time I launch

[vestal coyote]

yea in all fairness

[next onyx]

If the game succeeded it would have ended on a better note.

[fresh lintel]

I wouldnt mind the pass if it was like Infinites.

[vestal coyote]

that's another issue itself

[fresh lintel]

But alas, its not. So its stupid.

[ebon pilot]

There's two sides to specialists and they're two completely separate distinct things:

1. Aesthetics - the characters each specialist is as well as their skins
2. Gameplay - what specialists are as an element that defines how you play the game

Some people can only see specialists as an aesthetic property. They're only characters, and characters are bad, because... idk look at all these other games there's no way they can do characters and not make them giant pink snowglobes or something. Games are entirely defined by aesthetics and gameplay doesn't matter at all in categorizing games.

Others see specialists as a gameplay element. I don't care too much about the aesthetics. I'm more interested in what specialists bring to the table as gameplay elements. And what specialists are as gameplay is extremely simple and well inline with past games.

I want to see specialists continue to exist in Battlefield simply as a gameplay element. Their aesthetics can change I don't really care.

[full burrow]

didnt play that but fair enough

[next onyx]

Specialists remind me of the scrapped archetypes system from bf5.

But you know. Weapons would be locked to that super specific sub class.

[full burrow]

Apex legends has cool skin system - you play, you get box, you open box, you get skin, wooghoo, same as OW1

[vestal coyote]

by the way, they are moving away from Specialists

pretty sure Tom Henderson said this

[next onyx]

Nonono more loot boxes.

[vestal coyote]

so that arguement is already done for

or that convo I mean

[fresh lintel]

Yeah sadly.

[elfin coral]

Good

[ebon pilot]

yeah that's what they say. it could be they're defining specialists as the aesthetic or the gameplay. and given how many people don't like the optics of it i'm hoping it's the aesthetics

[next onyx]

They can always rename it. And I'll be honest. I don't believe Tom Henderson. Leaker accounts just do it for clout.

[fresh lintel]

I'm gonna miss all my T1s and shit because I can see 2042 dying instantly when the next title releases.

[vestal coyote]

there are right ways to do skins and there are wrong ways, I aint disagreeing, but the problem is do you trust EA to do it the right way? I mean have you seen Activision lmfao

[full burrow]

I really couldnt care if they are doing specialists on roids, or if they are completely moving away from it, what matters is how whatever they do do actually turns out in line with the rest of game mechanics

[vestal coyote]

no, they know most of the community hated it, it was one of the main criticisms of the game at launch

its not coming back

[elfin coral]

Good

[vestal coyote]

the community said no and EA understood that

[fresh lintel]

Well

[next onyx]

More like dice.

[vestal coyote]

that's why again, lets be fair here, EA scaled specialists back a lot in 2042

[fresh lintel]

HOPEFULLY they understood it properly

[elfin coral]

Keep the abilities remove the characters

[vestal coyote]

True

[ebon pilot]

people complained about optics

and still do

like you eren

[full burrow]

umm its not exactly a bad thing to NOT listen yo people at times

[fresh lintel]

If its not the XDR its bad

[next onyx]

The micro t1 is GOOD.

Absolute slander.

[fresh lintel]

Vic, when majority of the community doesnt like a thing

[vestal coyote]

exactly

[full burrow]

people are stupid, and the dumbest are also the loudest, so be very careful to make sure you actually listening to everyone and not just the loud voices

[fresh lintel]

That logic only applies to Planetside. 😛

[vestal coyote]

specialists dont belong in Battlefield, the devs even agree to this, this is not a debate, they do not belong here period

if you want a specialist type of game

[ebon pilot]

people enjoying themselves generally don't say anything

[next onyx]

It's why when I relay feedback I try to be as objective as possible to be honest.

[vestal coyote]

I have some recommendations 🤣

Overwatch

[full burrow]

but skins and battlepasses do?

[vestal coyote]

Paladins

[dawn cedar]

except its the same community that screeched there were women in battlefield 5

[fresh lintel]

But no for real, loudest doesnt equal dumbest.

Unless you actually consider Enders dumb.

[vestal coyote]

you think I like Battle Passes

dont get me started

but I am being realistic

Battle Passes are not leaving

no matter what

[ebon pilot]

he could be smarter

[elfin coral]

The only reason they even exist is because of corporate

[vestal coyote]

they will gladly get rid of the specialists but you know damn well they aint getting rid of the Battle Pass

Fortnite proved that shit is profitable

[fresh lintel]

Hes certainly got some interesting takes but he is more informed than most redditors.

[vestal coyote]

Enders is really dumb, he literally said BF needs a BR game to remain relevant 🤦‍♂️

I wonder what BR got Call of Duty in all those years

oh wait

[next onyx]

I don't think enders is dumb but he gets lost in the moment and hurls abuse towards devs.

[fresh lintel]

Wait that was him?

[next onyx]

Wasn't that Dr disrespect.

[vestal coyote]

Doc has a problem of saying that too

I could link you enders video

[next onyx]

I'm fine.

[full burrow]

never watched him but, are you saying that a popular streamer dude is an accurate representation of the community?

[fresh lintel]

I know Dr would have said that for sure, since he has genuine CoD/BR Brainrot.

[vestal coyote]

he said people who dont agree with him whining about wanting a BR should "Grow up" in his own words

[full burrow]

someone who most likely just skims thru to the comments that agree with him and makes it look like everyone agrees?

[fresh lintel]

I'm saying that, being the most vocal about something doesnt make you dumb.

[next onyx]

Hasn't the br craze kinda died off.

[fresh lintel]

Kinda.

[vestal coyote]

everything needs to be a BR/Skin based game according to the new brainrot gamers that only play Fortnite and Overwatch these days

I mean I dont hate BR

but I dont want every game to become a BR

not everything needs to be a BR

[next onyx]

I feel like only Activision is aggressively pursuing it.

[vestal coyote]

yep

Fortnite is actually moving away from it

although

I disagree with Fortnite moving away from it

[fresh lintel]

I tried Warzone recently and I havent had that much anger flow through me so fast.

So BRs are and will always be a no no.

[stone cradle]

Fortnite popularised it but now Epic is trying to move as much as they can away from it

[next onyx]

I forgot fortnite was a br to be honest.

[vestal coyote]

I feel like Fortnite is actually good at BR, truly the only good BR game lol

[chilly jacinth]

their cosmetic sales is hard carrying warzone

[ebon pilot]

3/10ths of the top games on Steam are still BR games

[vestal coyote]

so Enders saying "you need a BR to stay relevant 🤓 " is the dumbest shit I have heard

[stone cradle]

He's not wrong

[ebon pilot]

though it's hard to tell if COD is warzone players or the other modes

[full burrow]

Probably more that BR came seemigly out of nowear and was a big hit, and everyone jumping on the bandwagon has produces medeocre results at best other than the still popular few. A GOOOD new BR will probably be a smash hit, but all we have is half assed approached of just getting A br out there to gain market share instead of getting the next big thing out there

[stone cradle]

casual gamers love BRs

[vestal coyote]

Helldivers 2 proves him wrong though

[stone cradle]

or maybe that's because they're f2p, probably.

[vestal coyote]

Helldivers 2 aint no BR

ant its relevant

[fresh lintel]

I mean in the grand scheme of things, I can see why someone would say that.

But at the same time, look at BRs now. Lmao

[vestal coyote]

yea that's the main reason

[stone cradle]

Firestorm would've done pretty good if it was f2p

[vestal coyote]

yea but not everything needs to be a BR ya know

[fresh lintel]

Mhm mhm

[vestal coyote]

not every franchise in existence needs it

[ebon pilot]

so what you're saying is

[full burrow]

not in the state it launched in

[ebon pilot]

battlefield needs a pve mode

[fresh lintel]

I sure as fuck wouldnt play 2042 if it went hard into the BR route.

[dawn cedar]

BR's print money, and console players, which are EA's biggest market share love BR's

[vestal coyote]

nah, I am just countering Enders' point that a shooter game like BF needs a BR mode because that's the only way to stay relevant

[vestal coyote]

you wouldn't be wrong in the case of Apex Legends

Apex is actually doing really well for EA

[elfin coral]

HZ is more fun than firestorm

[dawn cedar]

ik im not wrong, im literally looking at the financials rn for Q3 lol

[fresh lintel]

Eeeeeh

[drowsy shuttle]

That's not true. BR is more competitive and harder than a sandbox like battlefield..

[ebon pilot]

it's also not a BR

[dawn cedar]

Console - 423 million, PC - 29 million

[vestal coyote]

that's not shocking though, Apex makes millions

like its got a massive scene

[fresh lintel]

A BR is a BR, I aint touching that shit with a 40 meter stick.

[vestal coyote]

and I dont even play Apex

[elfin coral]

This too

[vestal coyote]

and I hear about it all the time

[stone cradle]

If it's not true then why do apex and warzone rake in a billion every year.

[dense pier]

thank god were finaly getting rid of this peice of garbage cant wait foor 6 dont fuck it up

[ebon pilot]

asia!

[vestal coyote]

remember when we all said that to BF5 🤣

[full burrow]

I love BRs, my problem is I dont have any friends and I like to be competitive so playing with randoms is a no no so basically I cant play BRs

[dense pier]

lmao

[fresh lintel]

Theres nothing competitive in my eyes about randomized weapons, with randomized tiers and attachments.

Fighting a random selection of enemies, who all have their own abilities.

[dawn cedar]

when 6 comes out its "omg this game sucks, 2042 was the best"

[dense pier]

fr

[vale barn]

i mean rip 2041