battlefield-2042

[solid imp]

ok either drop me off or take me with you into the ether... don't push me off the ramp somewhere in between those

[errant patio]

I fail to understand how you can screw up something as simple as trophies

[fading hawk]

“My people need me”

[cloud niche]

IS it hard or time consuming? Hope it's easy so you can do it a lot

[remote kiln]

lag at the beginning is funny

[errant patio]

Kind of time consuming but it doesn't even matter because they don't work properly

You do the thing the trophy tells you to do and it still doesn't unlock

[cloud niche]

Damn

[errant patio]

You get 20 headshots in a round and the trophy says "lol no"

[cloud niche]

Does all trophies bug or just some? Thankfully I'm not much of a trophie hunter

[errant patio]

They weren't bugged last year when I first got the game

Now they're all fucked

[cloud niche]

Damn

[errant patio]

I don't even know what happened lmfao

[fading hawk]

I think what’s needed is to bring back Locker and make it 128 players

[cloud niche]

I was sent by FSB to mess up BF2042

[tawny carbon]

wait for BF4 WR

[errant patio]

DICE already beat you to it

[cloud niche]

Damn they don't have 128 players anymore? Why?

[fading hawk]

lol.

[fading hawk]

Ofc they do but locker isn’t a map on 2042

[errant patio]

Redacted is close enough

[robust vapor]

Ah so you got affected by the ramp push too

[errant patio]

Best breakthrough map

[fading hawk]

128 players on redacted is a stalemate

In the middle of the map

[errant patio]

Until one human wave collapses the other

Because that's literally the only tactic

[cloud niche]

Lol ye it's the bf4 map. Would be crazy with 128 players

[errant patio]

Smoke spam and banzai charge

Best map in the game

So much strategy

[fading hawk]

Without smoke spam and the cluster grenades it would be a lot better

[errant patio]

Without smoke spam the attackers can't win lol

[cloud niche]

Lmao

[errant patio]

You just charge through and immediately get shot by 30 people

[fading hawk]

ATM on 128 players redacted is a CPU killer as you get 4 million grenades thrown at you at once every second and then your PC also has to keep up with the wallpaper of smoke.

[errant patio]

Never experienced it

But 64 player is bad enough

[cloud niche]

get a new pc that costs 1000 usd or more

[errant patio]

I was on the defenders and it was still absolutely insane

[tawny carbon]

128p bt redacted is my fav, now its gone in the wind

[spring shale]

what enginers do u guys use

[tawny carbon]

lis

[spring shale]

Im really

trying to make

[fading hawk]

Imagine an entire enemy team of cluster grenades thrown at you, in a small room, surrounded by 64 teammates in the middle of a one giant smoke grenade and machine gun fire. And then at 100 ping. That’s redacted on 128 players

[spring shale]

crawford work

[cloud niche]

In bf2042?

[spring shale]

but it is so frustrating

[spring shale]

yes lol

[tawny carbon]

crawford is really good

[spring shale]

I have just been using his turrent offensively

[errant patio]

Yeah I can

[spring shale]

now

[chilly jacinth]

crawford gets more rockets

[errant patio]

I played redacted on breakthrough

[cloud niche]

Dafuq they have 4 class system again?

[spring shale]

I just place it down kill some dudes

and leave

[chilly jacinth]

so hes simply better

[errant patio]

Tbf redacted on breakthrough is perfect for the quad kill defending objective trophy

[spring shale]

yeah I think they changed it? It is the classic 4 system but they assigned specialists to each class

so there are 3 specialists in the engineer class

etc

[cloud niche]

Hmm

Does specialist matter?

[spring shale]

yeah a lot

you get a unique passive

ability

and an overall class passive

[fading hawk]

Without the specialist class system, smoke spam and cluster grenade spam 2042 would be a million times better.

[spring shale]

I personally like it i wasnt here for launch so Im honestly suprised it wasnt this way

[tawny carbon]

meh, 2042 will be slower and not as strategic if they weren't a thing

[fading hawk]

It would be more like previous titles

[spring shale]

yeah but in previous titles u were restricted to weapons

and gadgets

[chilly jacinth]

i dont think youd be able to win on bt

without smokes

[tawny carbon]

smokes is op on any game xD

[spring shale]

Im so glad on Falck the ammo kit restores smokes

its really nice

[fading hawk]

Just bring back the 4 class system, get rid of cluster grenades, the grappling hook and the obsession with windows and there ya go. Fixed the game.

[cloud niche]

Yes a sniper class with a lmg wouldn't make much sense

[spring shale]

You can still do that

you just dont get the bonuses

[tawny carbon]

^

[spring shale]

I run Rao with an AR and smokes

I play him like an assault

[tawny carbon]

the acc bonus is very good

for lmgs

[cloud niche]

Sounds good

[fading hawk]

Sometimes simple is better

[spring shale]

whats wrong with the grappling hook?

[fading hawk]

It completely breaks Haven for example

[tawny carbon]

simple is boring

[fading hawk]

There’s no flow due to the fact that Mackay can float around the map like a bumble bee

[spring shale]

So can Sundance

[tawny carbon]

ngl, 2042 made me hate 64 more. 128 is superior

64p is way to slow like a sloth

[spring shale]

^ hard agree, but its more of the map design

Maps are too big to fit 64

128 is perfect

feels right

[fading hawk]

That’s why I said bring back the 4 class system which would get rid of these stupid map breaking specialists

[tawny carbon]

they are very useful in 2042

[flint kettle]

can you join the same squad as your friend on this game? I'm downloading it now

[cloud niche]

Ngl 128 seem pretty cool

[fading hawk]

Haven should’ve been designed with advanced movement in mind. You can’t throw a map that is designed like previous titles into 2042 and expect it to flow correctly.

[cloud niche]

I haben't gotten bf2042 downloaded yet. I'm on 30% 😦

[spring shale]

yeah done it loads of times

if you and your friend are in a party and queue

[flint kettle]

they fixed it? I heard it used to be a problem

[tawny carbon]

new gen with new gen yes, new gen with old gen no

[spring shale]

it will put you both in a squad

[flint kettle]

ahhh aight

[spring shale]

with liek 2 other randoms

[cloud niche]

How does squads work in bf2042?

[cloud niche]

PC and xbox?

[spring shale]

4 members per squad

1 squad leaders who can issue "orders"

[tawny carbon]

you dont know whats new gen?

[cloud niche]

Yes but can pc and xbox be in same squad?

[spring shale]

if you attack or defend the objective your squad leader orders you get an XP bonus

[spring shale]

yeah

I play on crossplay on pC all the time

lots of xbox and PS5 players

[tawny carbon]

series s and x, pc and ps5 is new gen.... ps4 and og xbox one is last gen

[cloud niche]

Yes and I asked if pc can be in same squad as a xbox or ps player? Wheter that be new or old gen`?

[tawny carbon]

only new gens can play with each other

[cloud niche]

Same squad tho? Like my friend plays on xbox series x and I play on pc

[tawny carbon]

new just cant play with old

[spring shale]

Im in a game rn

with

an xbox in my squad

[cloud niche]

Oh thanks

[tawny carbon]

yes you can because you are both new gen

[cloud niche]

Ah great

[spring shale]

This game is pretty fun I sunk a decent amount of time into BF1 so this is a nice change up.

I just wish the specialists were balanced a bit more evenly

and there was more incentives for squad play

[tawny carbon]

they are balanced

[spring shale]

No like for support why would I not play falck compared to the other two

[celest oar]

sound like a you problem? I play Falck everytime when it come to support medic

[spring shale]

No bro thats what i just said, "why would I not play falck"

[tawny carbon]

trophy system/deployable barrier or unlimited ammo packs//loadout crate

[errant bison]

falck is pretty strong just because you can instantly heal yourself after taking hits

[cloud niche]

Makes sense thanks!

[tawny carbon]

can do the same by using angel with the health paks

[spring shale]

Yeah Im not saying they are bad, but I think falck is just better, like unless you are camping an area how long are you going to be able to use those benefits?

[tawny carbon]

it can benefit greatly

[spring shale]

yeah but I think the value of being able to heal yourself (faster than other supports), others, resupply ammo, revive faster in one package is better in comparison to the other supports

like I said I dont think the others are bad, I just think that one is better

I dont see many people playing irish

[tawny carbon]

i see alot of Irish every game i play. i also see a ton of angel. and lately i been playing angel

[spring shale]

well maybe I havernt played the game enough to see I only have

20 hours in the game

[chilly jacinth]

Falck is better as a pure medic

[spring shale]

also so many people ignore the angel supply drops when I call them in

[chilly jacinth]

she can just heal more people faster

[spring shale]

i feel like people dont know

what it does

I place it next to engineers firing rockets

[chilly jacinth]

wouldnt surprise me

[spring shale]

and they never use it

[tawny carbon]

people like the ease of use

most players is very basic as well

most people dont even know what specialist does but run and gun like cod

[spring shale]

yeah

I think this game is really fun with a good squad, I had a good team of randoms like 2 days ago

was really fun

[tawny carbon]

just have fun playing

its a very casual game afterall

[dapper river]

[tawny carbon]

i wish they... what

[dapper river]

u gotta click the video

ooOOooOo ur being clickbaited bro!!

[tawny carbon]

tell me bro

[dapper river]

nah, I didn't click it

I think you and I already know what's in the video

[tawny carbon]

imma pull the lazy internet member and say that "im to lazy to click or type words"

[spring shale]

can you not resupply smokes with angel ammo packs?

[tawny carbon]

no just weapon ammo

[spring shale]

damn

[tawny carbon]

hes a pure ammo aupplier not gadgets. thats ammo box

or loadout crate

[noble turtle]

When will the cringey one-liners in the lobby be tuned off?

[spring shale]

im pretty sure it alr is

[noble turtle]

there's a setting for it somewhere now?

[spring shale]

idk i have never heard]

any of the voicelines

ever

[noble turtle]

congrats, it's crap

[chilly jacinth]

they removed most of em

[patent pivot]

I miss the GRENAAAAADE

Line

[noble turtle]

ah, ingame you mean?

[tawny carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-be-sad-this-is-just-how-it-works-out-sometimes-angel-bf2042-battlefield-angel-dont-be-sad-angel-gif-24855532

[patent pivot]

The old lines

[noble turtle]

I'm thinking of the ones they say when you just finished a round, or just started the game up, in the lobby

[chilly jacinth]

i finally unlocked the SRAW

time to slap some helis

[noble turtle]

congrats

[patent pivot]

What

Never played old BF?

[chilly jacinth]

What?

[tawny carbon]

thats wild asf

[noble turtle]

who are you asking?

[patent pivot]

You

[noble turtle]

ofc

still miss the glory days of bf4

[patent pivot]

You own the game on PC?
You can wait for WR to come out

[tawny carbon]

thats old battlefield

[dapper river]

bro the end of round lines have been gone for over 2 years now lol

[noble turtle]

no, not those ones...

kthe ones in lobby

[tawny carbon]

old battlefield is games before bf1

bf1 till now is new

[dapper river]

ah yes, such cringe annoying lines in the pregrame screen, such as..
"One team, one fight" and "Toe the line, people"
so terrible! wowza!

[noble turtle]

bf4 came out before bf1

[tawny carbon]

dis you not see this?

[spring gale]

Can someone help me out and drop the AC-42? I'm at wits end I just wanna try all the guns out lol

I also kinda wanna unlock the VHX but I'm so far off unlocking that AC42 haha

[chilly jacinth]

cant you just start a portal server with everything unlocked

[noble turtle]

have you tried going into a breakthourgh portal server?

[mint tree]

Unplayable shit after patch

[noble turtle]

if youre talking about the lag, its better now

[mint tree]

Hitreg is totally gone

We Are iMpRoVing viSuAl rEcOil and other bullshit

[chilly jacinth]

that doesnt affect hitreg

[spring gale]

I'll give it a try. I can't find a server that will let me use the AC/A-91/MTAR without it having the kills not count

Or it's just dead.

But bots don't spawn with the AC-42 for some reason. I can't figure out why.

[tawny carbon]

you have to unlock weapons through challenges

[patent pivot]

Because they're programmed that way

[spring gale]

I figured.

[patent pivot]

This isn't the game where customization is good

[spring gale]

Ya, just sucks cause I have to level up 10 times for the AC42 but I'm kinda bored of what I currently have tbh

[tawny carbon]

life of a video game

portal weapons have challenges also

[spring gale]

Ya but for some like the VHX I can't unlock it because I dont have the weapons required for the challenge which sucks

[tawny carbon]

level up

playing the game

[spring gale]

it's a skill issue

[tawny carbon]

time flies

[noble turtle]

I unlocked sights for my crossbow , so they should count

[tawny carbon]

boom you have it unlocked

[chilly jacinth]

man the SRAW rocket is really slow

[spring gale]

Big issue is that I don't have the gun unlocked, so can't actually do the challenges. When I manage to get that damn AC-42 or w/e then hopefully it'll all go smooth

[noble turtle]

Redacted is good on portal servers, many good "farming spots"

[spring gale]

Once I have the gun yea, unfortunately before that the only way I think I can do it would be by having someone drop the gun

Past three days I found it once but that didn't last long lmao

[tawny carbon]

dropping the weapon dont insta unlock it for you

you have to unlock it and do the challenge either way

its not cod

[spring gale]

No but you can unlock it by doing challenges with it even without having it unlocked

[tawny carbon]

o i thought you meant insta unloocking it, my b

[spring gale]

So if I use the AC-42 I picked up to get 100 kills in a bot lobby it unlocks the VHX. Did this will all the other guns but unfortunately I'm struggling to get it done with BF3 weapons or the AC-42

[spring gale]

You're good. I just figured if there's an easy way I'd rather do that hahaha

[tawny carbon]

just play the game. and grind it out

[patent pivot]

Is the 42 a vault or vanilla gun

[spring gale]

Vanilla

[tawny carbon]

AOW weapon

[patent pivot]

Ah ok

Well

I am an advocate for using vault only

[tawny carbon]

vault weapons is op in AOW

[patent pivot]

Btw, fix the emr recoil shake

[tawny carbon]

i have no issues with it kek

skill issue

[patent pivot]

You blind or something? It still shakes too much with bipod

[tawny carbon]

how am i blind??

cant play 2042 if im blind as a bat

[patent pivot]

Compare to other guns with bipod, their recoil shake aren't too vigorous

The 39 emr needs a fix

[pine roost]

You use the m39 with a bipod?

[patent pivot]

What else?

[tawny carbon]

i never use a bipod tbh. if so its only when crouching kek

[pine roost]

Well I’ve just never heard anyone use bipods outside of lmgs

[tawny carbon]

or snipers but not need tbh

[patent pivot]

Recon snipers be like

[tawny carbon]

dmrs to me is useles with bipods

[pine roost]

Unless you’re like 500+ m out I guess

[patent pivot]

I mostly camp

There's that

[tawny carbon]

farming kd bro?

[patent pivot]

No

I'd rather not engage

[tawny carbon]

dam i would expect you to be a 10kd stat player

atleast 5+

[chilly jacinth]

ive never willingly used bipods

[pine roost]

Neither

With a sniper it’s mostly a death wish

The ones I get the most are the ones who are still bipoded

[tawny carbon]

if your not constant moving in any shooter, its a death wish

[pine roost]

Indeed

[patent pivot]

I sometimes use mini grenade as a budget mortar

[pine roost]

Go for it

[patent pivot]

I got some hit on haven

[vocal tusk]

Bipods are mostly useless, cos a lot of the cover on 2042 maps is not designed with them in mind. Deploying them I'd also janky AF.

[patent pivot]

Auto bipod >

[pine roost]

I don’t even remember how it works in this

[vocal tusk]

I also play only conquest, so it's rarely useful to stand still and bip0d, cos you'll be sniped within 20 seconds.

[pine roost]

Genuinely haven’t used one since launch

[patent pivot]

It's manual deployment

[vocal tusk]

You press a button to activate the bipod. It's X on PC

[patent pivot]

Even I sometimes forgot to deploy it whenever I prone

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, it's not intuitive at all.

[patent pivot]

Just make it automatic

[vocal tusk]

They should auto deploy when you're prone and ads

[patent pivot]

EZ

[pine roost]

I’m used to manual deployment from other games but those games have a far slower pace, so it’s not as detrimental. Without auto it doesn’t sound worth it

[vocal tusk]

I'm pretty sure spread is still a thing even with a bipod, so it matters little to use or not.

[patent pivot]

Not ads with bipod can be effective on cqc

[wide shore]

Once bipod is opened it auto places. Problem is you gotta open it.

BFV/BF1 did the system so much better

[tawny carbon]

i like doing it manual more than automatic

if you dont open up. thats on you, not the game/weapons fault

and irl, bipod is manual, never automatic

in case if you wanna pull the realistic factor into shooter games

[spring gale]

I found a lobby finally. Dropped a 90k game and run away with my VHX lmao

BF3 weapons are actually really fun to use tho. Nice to have a reskinned version in 2042

[solid imp]

what throws me off is that half second it takes for the bipod to "latch" to a surface

[tawny carbon]

gotta get the weapon stable to the surface

[buoyant oyster]

Anyone wanna Play?

[tawny carbon]

!!LFG

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[solid imp]

I love getting shot as Rao because I know someone just got "Location Revealed"

[tawny carbon]

Rao gave you the handicap treatment

[full burrow]

I used to only use paik

then only mackay

now I only use lis

getting a bit better at hitting air target with her launcher too, gotta take more chances with the boost

[solid imp]

I wish it did more damage with faster impact speed

[solid imp]

just gotta use him right 🙂
smoke, hack, shoot, repeat
run into the thick of a fight, drop a tugs, clear retreat with smoke, spot everyone with hacks and by getting shot

and never speed up your bleed out if you have a tugs down; you're just leaving free spots on the table otherwise

[lone void]

Rao my beloved

[bitter mulch]

anyone wnat to play?

[quaint vector]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[tawny carbon]

ye

[bitter mulch]

sory

[sour meadow]

does 2042 not have a spectator mode for AOW?

i just wanna watch rounds, not play them

[spring gale]

Does anyone here actually prefer the A-91 to the VHX? A-91 is a beast 😮

[vocal tusk]

there is no spectator mode at all. The only thing that exists is a squad spectator camera, and that needs to be enabled on the portal editor for custom modes.

[full burrow]

I think the spawn delay needs to be reduced a bit

[sour meadow]

why are there emotes of RLM and raccoons in the battlefield server lol

[full burrow]

feels a bit shitty to destroy a insertion thing then watch someone pop in 2 seconds later

[north hull]

odd request but is there a way to get the Premium icon from BF2042

[cloud niche]

Is the AK5C any good?

And is it hard to unlock guns in bf2042 or how does it work?

[sacred idol]

is there a way to remove the end match battlepass and such pickle tickle?

[cloud niche]

Meh. Most likely not since they want to advertise it to get more dolla signs

[sacred idol]

i'm so excited for the growing "dark intentions" lawsuits and legislations and hope EA gets smacked hard.

[cloud niche]

Huh what is this? DM if the censor police won't let you say it in chat

Most companies don't like it when you talk bad about their companies

[sacred idol]

sorry, dark patterns

[cloud niche]

I'm still in the dark about what you're talking about

[sacred idol]

many countries are passing Dark Patterns legislation to make it illegal for predatory practices in "grinding" and FOMO type advertisements.

trying to counter the millions and millions spent in psycological addiction and manipulation practices they've been working on.

[cloud niche]

Ah based. But what counts? Battle passes, "slot machines", buyable skins, chests?

[sacred idol]

that is kinda what is happening now... trying to decide what counts... was it EA that has a patent for matchmaking algorithms that are designed to put you against people with paid stuff who are going to be better than you to try and make you think it was the stuff?

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/dark-patterns-in-games-gdc-2024/

trying to hide or obfuscate unsubscribe, repeated splash screens of "buy now"

[cloud niche]

Although some skins are pay to win. Example is the groot skin from cod MW2

[sacred idol]

most skin type stuff probably won't come under it, but there are a lot of mean grindy stuff. Like having a battlepass appear after everymatch that I am not interested in.

[cloud niche]

I'm not gonna get into it but this seem like one of the few good things about the DSA law.

[sacred idol]

The industry has been paying millions in studies to figure out how to hack our brains more efficiently to get to our wallets.

time we start fighting back

[cloud niche]

Yes game companies are basically legal casinos for kids

[sacred idol]

https://www.pcgamer.com/activision-wins-patent-that-uses-matchmaking-to-make-you-want-to-buy-stuff/

was activision I was thinking of but other companies are working on it as well.

[cloud niche]

Ngl pretty smart companies they found a loophole in which they use the same tactics as gambling companies but they can target kids and have legal commercials outside of the "casino"

[sacred idol]

it works on more than just kids.

[cloud niche]

Yes gambling works on adults aswell but getting them hooked on kids means longer time of profits

[sacred idol]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/ea-matchmaking-microtransactions-eomm-engagement-patent

yeah...

all these patents were filed and won over 5 years ago.

with most of the companies promising, on their honor, that they'd never do anything malicious with it.

[remote kiln]

there's no proof Activision uses that patent and there never has been

so it's pointless

[sacred idol]

so they spent all that money and time and legal proceedings to just lock it in a vault?

[remote kiln]

yes, patents are created and never used all the time

it's not about using it

it's about owning the right to before someone else does

[sacred idol]

it would be hard to find evidence for such a thing without having direct access to their code.

[remote kiln]

activision use skill based matchmaking it's not some secret, EOMM is testable for, no evidence has ever been found

[sacred idol]

anyway, my initial ask was if there is a way to remove the battlepass tracker from after matchs.

[remote kiln]

claiming otherwise is disinformation

[sacred idol]

I didn't say evidence has been found.

I said, which all articles will repeat, that proving it is/would be very difficult... and they have the patents and the tech.

[remote kiln]

the "anti dark pattern" laws do not apply to this

[sacred idol]

not yet... that is another unknown

[remote kiln]

no, they are not for and have never been for matchmaking system in games, they are for getting rid of psychological patterns which encourage/lure people into spending money in a predatory fashion for items

[sacred idol]

"Dark Patterns" stuff is pretty new in terms of legal action.

[remote kiln]

anything gameplay wise is irrelevant and not applicable to these laws

[sacred idol]

Ahh, I missed your law degee

[tawny carbon]

people just dont like cod because of the sbmm, eomm fucks you over if you do good

[remote kiln]

what do you think a dark pattern is? it's to encourage people to spend money lol, not to play a game more

nobody gives a shit about you playing a game

they care you buy things in it

[sacred idol]

encourage people to spend money or engage in unhealthy behaviors.

[shy viper]

[sacred idol]

ahh, direct to hostility and hostile language. Very nice of you Deco... so much for civility.

[remote kiln]

it's not hostility, you is not you, the individual, it's the player

[sacred idol]

of course it is... of course it is...

[ebon pilot]

i think it was pretty clear

[remote kiln]

that's what we all are lol numbers to companies, so yeah

[sacred idol]

Did you believe the tobacco companies that said smoking was good for you? Did you believe the plastic companies that citizen recycling was all that was needed?

[remote kiln]

believe? no, do I also think they care an ounce about a player spending thousands of hours in a game not spending anything, no they'd consider them a cost expense

[sacred idol]

https://www.deceptive.design/types

[remote kiln]

games exist to make money and that's all they exist for, nothing else lol

[dense bramble]

Does the game have dynamic response curve, or anything similar to it. I feel like I can do better feels like I'm struggling with my aim

[sacred idol]

Dang, I thought they were about having fun.

[remote kiln]

they're not, they're not made to be fun

theyre made for a profit

[sacred idol]

all those microtransaction in solitare are making me go broke.

[remote kiln]

I assume you are talking about the controller curve if so yes you can change this in the settings

[dense bramble]

yeah but which one is similar to a dynamic response curve

Because I can't tell

lol

[remote kiln]

idk what you mean by dynamic, if you are referring to responsive, then it's linear

[ebon pilot]

have you seen the modern solitaire implementations made by Microsoft?

[sacred idol]

I was referring to the original deck o cards... but I can understand the confusion.

[ebon pilot]

we're talking about video games

[dense bramble]

yeah there are different response curves and one I am used to is dynamic

[patent path]

gamers can't comprehend this

[remote kiln]

dynamic doesn't mean anything to me I'll assume you're referring to what one responds the most then it's linear, but you'll need to do your own research if not

[remote kiln]

yeah lol they think why they buy a game is at all related to why games are made

[dense bramble]

yeah, I feel like it's hard to aim. sometimes it's good other times it's just wack

[sacred idol]

I understand profit and greed, they don't have to be the same thing.

[remote kiln]

https://youtu.be/k92lVe5FVE4?si=6NxlsJ4euTU1RefX

[remote kiln]

well they are in terms of the production of games so

[ebon pilot]

very busy thumbnail lol

says Battlefield 2042 twice

[remote kiln]

fun is not why games are made, a game is fun so you buy the game so they make money

[dense bramble]

Alright I'll watch it

[sacred idol]

ConcernedApe might not agree, as well as many game developers.

[remote kiln]

sure they will, because they are a company resource, and it's not the priority for them

[sacred idol]

I've made several games.. haven't made any money off them, but I've made them, and some are fun.

[remote kiln]

a company's (goal) is to make as much profit as possible in the most efficient form, employees and anything else are a cost resource, production of goods don't exist for the enjoyment of consumers, it's an enticement for them to acquire it

that's why the economic system operates as it does

[sacred idol]

Ahh, company, you changed the goalpost there.

[remote kiln]

goalposts? who do you think makes the vast majority lol

[sacred idol]

Im talking about games and game developers and you are talking about companies and corporate profits and the need to make more and more.

[remote kiln]

game developers exist, the majority of them, for the company to make profit, they are paid money to make a (product) which will make money, that is the exchange of a employment contract in a market system

they're not paid for nothing

[sacred idol]

Again.. ConcernedApe, stardew Valley.

[remote kiln]

what server are you talking in?

because it's not the stardew one

[sacred idol]

you are making blanket statements about game makers.

[ruby citrus]

playing support heavy falck on breakthrough feels like an APM simulator lmfao jesus christ

reviving, resupplying, shooting, healing

[remote kiln]

I'm making blanket statements about the economic system as the majority, not about it as a whole

you cannot ignore reality because you don't like it lol

[sacred idol]

"fun is not why games are made, a game is fun so you buy the game so they make money"

[remote kiln]

yes they are

what's wrong about that?

[ruby citrus]

at the end of the day any form of creation is made to profit from it, as bad as that may be

[sacred idol]

You said several times that games aren't made to be fun or for fun.

[patent path]

yeah, games are made for profit

[remote kiln]

if they were made for free yeah they would be made for fun, but they're not, that's how things work

[sacred idol]

Not true... you can be a creater that just wants to create and give up money.

[ruby citrus]

the stardew valley guy is like a 1 in a million case where a single dev made such a popular game he can basically comfortably retire

[remote kiln]

your moral opinion doesn't change anything about the economic cost of production

[sacred idol]

you don't have to be financial successful to be fulfilled in life.

Terraria

[patent path]

he would have said otherwise if his game didn't blew up lol

[sacred idol]

Someone made something for fun, with passion, that happened to be successful.

there are numerous small indie developers that aren't chasing massive profits and are just making the games they love to make.

if they break even, they are happy.

[ruby citrus]

thing is, even current indie devs do not make games just for the sake of making games, it takes hundreds if not thousands of hours of effort to do, and that time needs to be rewarded somehow

[remote kiln]

you realise 90% of indie studios die yes?

[ruby citrus]

yeah this, survivorship bias

[sacred idol]

and you don't have to have that one company, that one job, be your whole life. Make a couple games, move on.

[remote kiln]

??

[ruby citrus]

they release their game at a weird time, it has a bad first batch of reviews, and it falls into the abyss of the steam marketplace never to be popular again

[remote kiln]

yeah people can just you know not make money to live and do they what they want

[sacred idol]

Again, Deco said. Games aren't made for Fun. Period.

[ruby citrus]

they're a form of entertainment, so like going to watch a movie, they are made so you have fun, in that sense yeah, made for fun

[remote kiln]

you're in a battlefield discord

you ought to do some introspection

[sacred idol]

And you are a fine representative of the toxicity of such an environment.

[ruby citrus]

but they aren't made for the strict purpose of entertaining others, they're also made to profit from their effort

[remote kiln]

?? lol

for saying something which is true? sure I suppose

[sacred idol]

No, you over generalize, and then when that Is pointed out you retreat to the location at which this discussion is taking place.

[ebon pilot]

uh oh mods is here

[solid imp]

What's up fellow gamers? We are all upset about something?

[sacred idol]

you dismiss all attempts at pointing out any flaw in your statements, which there are many.

[remote kiln]

nobody's upset except this person

[sacred idol]

Not upset, just disappointed.

[remote kiln]

apparently the concept that games are made for profit and not fun is controversial because they don't like it

tldr lol

[solid imp]

https://tenor.com/view/lurk-peek-sneak-george-clooney-gif-17585314

[remote kiln]

and that's toxic? or something

[solid imp]

I'm disappointed by something most days. Let's keep it all civil.

I'll wag my finger at the next person who name calls

[ebon pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-wag-no-no-no-gif-27552536

[remote kiln]

ty

[ebon pilot]

Use this one

[solid imp]

oh see... y'all got one of the big names watching, too

[sacred idol]

Let me guess... a Gordan Gecko fan?

[next isle]

just lurking watching the CS major

[remote kiln]

has anyone else crashed yet

[solid imp]

I haven't had a black screen or crash in a awhile.. of course it will now but my answer is 'no'

[tawny carbon]

i havent experienced anything yet

[chilly jacinth]

tabing out of the game crashes me very consistently

[remote kiln]

meant for the major specifically lmao, a pro player crashed the other day and it cost them the match

[solid imp]

oof meter real high

[remote kiln]

https://www.dexerto.com/counter-strike-2/devastating-cs2-crash-costs-pro-team-playoffs-spot-at-pgl-copenhagen-major-2608909/

[solid imp]

but also unsurprising... CS is a mess right now

[chilly jacinth]

dont they have rules when shit like that happens

sucks to just straight up lose

[patent path]

didn't the nvidia driver crash

[remote kiln]

yeah it was that

[patent path]

yeah the rule is that once you have dealt some damage in the round it cannot be restarted

[chilly jacinth]

novideo moment

[patent path]

[chilly jacinth]

thats a shit rule

[remote kiln]

wait seriously?

[patent path]

yupper

to prevent people from fake crashing so they restart a losing round

[remote kiln]

even if there's a hacker or something in the match?

[ebon pilot]

In that case wouldn't the entire match become null and the hacker disqualified?

[tender birch]

[remote kiln]

if it would be null you'd need to restart tho

[ebon pilot]

Yeah but you'd restart the whole match, not the round

There's at least 15 rounds in a comp game?

[sacred idol]

and tight scheduled competitions can't always allow such a time loss.

[full burrow]

that would be mega rough and could be abused

14 in 7 wins each one takes a bullet for team and turns a hack on

if they are loosing the last match

[gilded goblet]

Danm crazy mods and admins are out today.....

[tawny carbon]

the last assassination tho. i used the force on him xD

[full burrow]

wtf is that box in the top left

you have a detailed hit counter?

[tawny carbon]

the following game... i just spawned in xD

[tawny carbon]

top skinny bar along the top or the white red and green box one within the square?

[full burrow]

yeah the square box not the bar

bar looks like performance stuff right

[tawny carbon]

bar is performance yes

the box is the dmg log to and from the player

[gilded goblet]

His face lol

[full burrow]

didnt know that was a thing

probably a good thing tho il spend way to much time looking at it

[gilded goblet]

Yeah u can turn it on in settings

[full burrow]

fair enough

[gilded goblet]

i only look at it when my internet may be bad

[gilded goblet]

[proud sundial]

Just got my first game match! its actually kinda good, Is there no voice chat tho?

[sacred idol]

there is but without using discord or premades the likely hood of response is low.

[proud sundial]

Huh, i see

Its fun even when idk wtf should i do.

[sacred idol]

I get lost a lot

[proud sundial]

I thought the game's recoil gonna get me a hard time, but it was not bad

[chilly dove]

finishes scrolling When long time purple name blocked person has yet another argument with someone making a logical statement and brings to light their own toxicity whilst not understanding the flaw in their own argument, only to then retreat to ad hominem. Only in Battlefield Discord.

[sacred idol]

recoil isn't that bad... some guns, submachine guns, barely have any.

[proud sundial]

Fr

[sacred idol]

I tend to hold the trigger when I panic though, been working on it.

[ebon pilot]

it's ez you go shoot people and stand on the big red box that says "attack"

[proud sundial]

Im kinda disappointed with microtransaction and stuff but relieved when i realize its mainly for cosmetics

[proud sundial]

Understandable

[patent pivot]

Is this your first BF game

[sacred idol]

I still wish I could turn off the battlepass tracker after matches.

well, I'm looking to get shot at while I run screaming across a field. See ya in game.

[proud sundial]

Yes

[patent pivot]

Welp

[proud sundial]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[patent pivot]

Want to try old BF?

[proud sundial]

Maybe, if there's a discount hehe

[patent pivot]

You can go to kinguin for cheaper price

[proud sundial]

Whats kinguin

[patent pivot]

A different store for selling cheap game keys

[proud sundial]

Nahh... I'll stick to steam

[patent pivot]

Brother

[proud sundial]

I got a question, how to use/spawn a vehicle?

[patent pivot]

They offer different keys for steam and other launchers

Check it

[sacred idol]

they changed it on me... it is now right click on spawn icon

[proud sundial]

Ohhhh

[sacred idol]

I have microsoft game pass, which gives a EA game pass type thing, which gives me access to, I think, all the BF games.

[patent pivot]

Ok

[proud sundial]

Just finisged second game, full of a.i shi- gotta wait a couple of minute for real player to join

I thought i was good for a moment 😞

[patent pivot]

I see you hate PvE

[proud sundial]

Depend

[patent pivot]

What, not in a shooter game?

[proud sundial]

Not on mmo/rpg game for sure, just not in a game that supposed to offer pvp experience

[patent pivot]

Well buddy

I'm in devastation

I need good AI bots and solo mode in BF

[proud sundial]

I do play some pve shooter game back then, an old game

[proud sundial]

Some kind of campaign?

[patent pivot]

No not that

There's a difference between campaign and multiplayer

[proud sundial]

I see, why do you need it?

[patent pivot]

Because I prefer PvE

[proud sundial]

Welp personal preference, understandable

[patent pivot]

And that's why I'm excited for bf4 WR

[proud sundial]

Whats wr

[patent pivot]

Warsaw revamped

In nutshell, it enhance the game core

Free server, modding capability

And mass bug fixes for the game

[proud sundial]

I see, its not coming out yet?

[patent pivot]

Soon

There's another equivalent project for bf3

VU

Which is already out

[proud sundial]

Welp hope you met your expectation

[patent pivot]

Okay

[proud sundial]

Quick question, why it's so empty? Im on conquest haven now and it's 1/64

[patent pivot]

Depends on your region

[proud sundial]

Aight how to change region

[patent pivot]

You can't

[proud sundial]

Fck

[patent pivot]

Deal with it

[iron jackal]

cmon BF2042 needs to learn from on-going war...

[charred widget]

Whats the current opinion on Haven?

[proud sundial]

Im playing from SEA, its daym empty

[iron jackal]

when are we getting FPV Drones with Air-Burst Mortar Shells attached to them?

[patent pivot]

Karkand map

In nutshell

[iron jackal]

this shit looks mad cool

u can just bomb whole squads by flying over them

[proud sundial]

Smoll, camp haven but still manageable

[iron jackal]

drone warfare is advanced real fast

[patent pivot]

Because dice are dumb

[iron jackal]

its 2024 and we are using this, DICE please wake up and add it 🗣️

[charred widget]

I've played it a fair bit, I tend to blow up a whole lot of walls that are facing towards my team, don't know how much of a difference it makes though.

[remote kiln]

you need a vpn or join a friend whos in a different one

[proud sundial]

Hmm i can saw my ping goes 300++ by just imagining it

[sacred idol]

SEA is a tough region at times. I was in SEA for about 6 years.

[remote kiln]

yeah would happen

[proud sundial]

My condolences

[charred widget]

I find that I run out of ammo alot on haven and then I cant find anyone with ammo and have to run across the map shouting "I need ammo"

[sacred idol]

<has ammo

[sacred idol]

is there any built in matchmaking in 2042? like sign up for a role and a mission and find like mindeds?

[remote kiln]

there isnt, you can use #lfg-crossplay though

2042 doesnt use any sort of matchmaking except a team balancer

[vital quail]

Another match where some idiot decides to spawn in the transport heli and hover above spawn until they get shot down

[remote kiln]

theyre just winging it

[vocal tusk]

Does anyone else think that the deliberately long flag uncap actually hurts gameplay and benefits defends too much in conquest.

IMO its also one of the reasons its so hard to perform a comeback win on Haven. Flags are super close, easy for defenders to get there and defend an uncap

Id prefer if it were a fast uncap...but longer to cap for your team. that way at least youve taken away the defending teams ability to flag spawn

[obsidian lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cikdOQLpJGM

[proud sundial]

What is friday night battlefield?

[gilded goblet]

what is sound like

Just wait and see

[proud sundial]

O..okay

[ancient peak]

I forgot how bad breakthrough is on redacted

[kindred flint]

choke point simulator?

[ancient peak]

Yeah really fun to watch your team get spawn locked

And blown up by grenade spam

And locked down by turrets

10/10 gameplay would play again

Not to mention it seems the playerbase has gotten even worse

[arctic grove]

Does anyone know how to fix whenever i load into a match and try run around my game gets very stuttery and unplayable

The gun auto shoots and my mouse runs at like 2 FPS when my normal game is getting like 100-150

[naive ember]

Play on console problem solved

[remote kiln]

it's a event hosted weekly on the discord by FNB staff

[arctic grove]

i just payed £60 on the game

for it to run shit

[deft tinsel]

what's the tactic against the ram?

too fast to get locked on

too fast to get hit by a rocket

laying mines is just up to pure luck, praying the driver is blind as shit

[arctic grove]

anyone?

[kindred flint]

joined a match with 10 tickets left for the that finished my weekly mission

[ivory canopy]

Lucky

[placid echo]

Hmmmm

[gilded goblet]

tf

[kindred flint]

oh well cant play right now due to a bandaid so ill just leave the next match i got put in fuck it

[ivory canopy]

I am not overconfident. I'm just better than everyone else.

[gilded goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AaAnb0wCKc

[halcyon fiber]

I think there's more MacKay skins then any other op?

[ebon pilot]

Man that flare cooldown increase they added is barely noticable

[drowsy shuttle]

Most likely not working properly

[drowsy shuttle]

Are you guys sure the 5x scope doesn't have glint?

I'm not so sure of that

[shy viper]

If you are in a tank the strategy is to try to make it pop its APS then allow it to deplete about half of your health before its APS is over then fire two more shells to kill it. If you are infantry all you can do is hope it does not see you

Also as a vehicle or infantry player, complaining about the RAM until it receives nerfs is a good idea

[deft tinsel]

wow great infantry gameplay against the RAM

[shy viper]

!!!

[copper fulcrum]

The Ram doesn't have good defense but it has good attack and mobility.

Mines are a good tactic against it, attempt to flush them into it with someone who has rockets. Lis can try to do both roles there.

[shy viper]

The RAM has excellent defense, and excellent attack and excellent mobility
Placing mines and praying should not be classified as an effective strategy, that is just unacceptable, no other ground vehicle requires that, they can all be reasonably avoided because of low mobility or are large targets for rockets or have windows that small arms can shoot through. Lis rockets are easy to shoot down for the 2nd and 3rd gunners or just avoid because of the vehicles mobility so they do very little. The RAM does not have sufficient counterplay, it needs significant nerfing to be balanced

Good nerfs would be removing APS from it, reducing its health and giving it windows that can be shot through

[deft tinsel]

you've put it perfectly

[shy viper]

If I could only pick one of those nerfs though I would have APS removed, a vehicle with that mobility and armaments should NOT have access to APS

[glacial quarry]

@untold flower @robust vapor the flank i got at the start of our game ytd lol

[deft tinsel]

a heli kept following me around cuz i kept hacking and soflaming him lmao

tom and jerry ahh shit

somehow didn't kill me even once

nighbird simp

[hoary stirrup]

why I can’t launch the game

[shy viper]

What FOV do you play on?

Max?

[glacial quarry]

90

[sharp swift]

why are people playing HZ again

[gilded goblet]

noice

[ebon pilot]

not reviving squadmate
cring

[arctic grove]

Hello Iam a ex bf2042 player, not because I hate it but because I just can’t play it anymore. Let me explain probably why. So when bf was free for ps+ players, my brother had gotten it on his account, and as I usually do on my account, I share play with his account to get ps+ and to play bf2042. But recently he had canceled his subscription which made me lose bf2042. So I got ps plus on my account and I still can’t play

[arctic grove]

Like I still have the game but it only lets me play the trial, which is already over

[winged terrace]

redownload idk

[sour meadow]

was just playing Haven

we stole their helicopter, and both our pilots wrecked their ass

but we still lost

average RU moment

"what you mean we have to cap flag. i thought we just spam c5 and win"

[novel zephyr]

Why lay off shitty heads of development that force the hands of workers in a cuthroat and heavily cornered market that had no choice when they could just 'save face' by killing their workforce so they can leech off of once loved franchises.

[slow tulip]

Play the other battlefields

[severe oyster]

Uh actually, dude, this is iodized table salt. In addition to sodium chloride it contains anti-caking agents and potassium iodate which is added to prevent iodine deficiency. So not only are you being overly pretentious by insisting on using scientific terminology for everyday items; you are also factually wrong, dude

[final lintel]

the deagle aim got me fucked up lol. good clip

[glacial quarry]

i cant aim for shit with the deagle idk why

i love the gun but i suck at it i think im better off with glock

[torpid wadi]

Some guns just don’t work for a brother

[glacial quarry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1129570675863072858/i_hate_this_game.mp4?ex=661097ab&is=65fe22ab&hm=d96c8648b8b019d09b2e7f474358b46c833947cc5aba60ba2252cb6c5b66553a&

[torpid wadi]

Fuck do i feel that

[glacial quarry]

20% of the time i use the deagle i pop off with it, the other 80% ends in tragedy usually

[next onyx]

:(

Try the p125 on semi!

[gilded goblet]

L

PC player

PS5 player here has had no hit redge problems

[zinc raptor]

Anyone know the solution to eaanticheat crashing thing on PC? Swear I found a fix a while back but now that one of friends have it I just can't find anything online.

[pseudo pecan]

whats the benefit of the drum mag on the SCZ, it seems the extended has more ammo per clip

[zinc raptor]

extended > drum 100%

[tawny carbon]

I use drum because I always have ammo pack or box to replenish more.

[zinc raptor]

It gets super annoying tou, u get three clips, that's it

[tawny carbon]

10 rounds can make a difference

[torpid wadi]

That’s the truth

[zinc raptor]

The longer reload can also make a difference

Not a huge fan

[tawny carbon]

It’s slight longer. Not game changing to me tbh

[zinc raptor]

Maybe it's just me, I only run drum on guns like the vector (forgot the bf name)

[tawny carbon]

On other classes sure but ammo replenishment save lives

You also have different ammo types to swap to as well anyways

You aren’t limited to that one certain ammo type

[torpid wadi]

No longer is ammo racially segregated

They can all join together in harmony

[tawny carbon]

This guy

[zinc raptor]

I mean I do run Falck most times so I get what ur saying with the ammo box part

[torpid wadi]

Falck my beloved

[zinc raptor]

lmao

[torpid wadi]

Run that hoe with ammo and just go crack hoe mode

[tawny carbon]

I do the same with angel. I always run the opposite of what I don’t have. If falck I run ammo box/pouch, if angel I run health box/pouch

[torpid wadi]

If you’ve stopped then you aren’t going fast enough

[tawny carbon]

I love that comment. I always run around like a crackhead in general

[torpid wadi]

It’s the greatest feeling

[tawny carbon]

Fax

If you ain’t running, your camping

[torpid wadi]

You got bullets flying all around you while you heal yourself, others, and revive all within a matter of 3 seconds

[zinc raptor]

Or the one who just got camped by a super

[tawny carbon]

Super what?

[zinc raptor]

Every utility all at once

[zinc raptor]

The secondary one shot shotgun

[torpid wadi]

Yessir just as god intended

[tawny carbon]

O. I thought your about to say super hind or sum

[torpid wadi]

Ah that shotgun makes me want to hang myself with a spiked belt sometimes

The amount of point blank hit markers i’ve gotten with that thing is incredible

[tawny carbon]

I run the mini smg sidearm

Meh dmg but still my fav

[torpid wadi]

Honestly i find it doesn’t matter what i run, the enemies will somehow always be outside of the practical range anyways

[tawny carbon]

Fax

[torpid wadi]

Swap from the shotgun to the revolver? You bet your ass the enemy will be in my face all of a sudden

[zinc raptor]

I mean it's mostly when u run out of ammo and the enemies are whiffing like a mofo

[torpid wadi]

Annnnd vice versa

[tawny carbon]

Just do this and it’s light work

[zinc raptor]

In the mag I mean

[torpid wadi]

The secret tip support players don’t want you to know is that we just outrun the bullets

[tawny carbon]

Drum mag op

[zinc raptor]

lmao

I love reloading

So drum gets a little difficult

That's another reason

[tawny carbon]

And support player don’t run out of ammo

If you run out of ammo, your wrong

[torpid wadi]

I’ll be 6ft under before i see no more bullets in my reserve

Blessed be the ammo crate

[tawny carbon]

Every time I see I have one mag left. I always use ammo box/crate to get more. Or I run my other ammo types before I worry about more

I never run out

[zinc raptor]

Actually now I think of it, I think it's the smgs

I do like the drum on the sfar

[chilly jacinth]

I just throw the ammo box on cooldown

[tawny carbon]

^

[zinc raptor]

What if I run out b4 the ammo refreshes

[torpid wadi]

Half the time i’m throwing down the ammo crate for more morphine nano-bots

[chilly jacinth]

Impossible

Unless you're just holding m1

[torpid wadi]

That would be very impressive

[tawny carbon]

Swap to secondary or swap to different ammo type, EZ

[zinc raptor]

Maybe I'll give it another shot, runs with drum just makes me always worry about ammo. And I just don't like that feeling and spamming utilities on cd. Personal preference tbh

[tawny carbon]

Don’t worry about it. Just do it

Also don’t try to spray and pray everything. It’s not hard if you do

[tawny carbon]

Just do this

[zinc raptor]

Oh trust me I don't do that

[torpid wadi]

I’m a firm believer in suppressive fire

[zinc raptor]

[torpid wadi]

Hence the name

[chilly jacinth]

i personally dont use drums on most guns

[zinc raptor]

What's ur reason

[tawny carbon]

LMG main

[chilly jacinth]

i reload too much

and slow reloads is a killer

[zinc raptor]

God if only the sprint to fire was better

[zinc raptor]

That's what I saidddd hahaha

[tawny carbon]

It’s barely a difference between extendo tho

It’s slightly slower.

Barely game changing

Also if you run pp29, your hardstuck with drum anyways

[torpid wadi]

Mg4 was my baby in 4, the 42 in V, and i still ain’t quite certain what lmg i’m liking for 2042

The avancy is pretty damn nice

I like the use the m240b for the drip

[tawny carbon]

You love the “4”s huh

[torpid wadi]

What can i say

I don’t like it when i have to use more than one hand to count

[tawny carbon]

If it don’t have the “4” in the name, you don’t use it

[zinc raptor]

Well the reload on that drum is rather fast so that's not rly a problem

[tawny carbon]

It’s still a drum tho

[chilly jacinth]

its still a noticeable difference

[torpid wadi]

The pp29 does have a glaring issue that it’s ugly

[tawny carbon]

Bizon my beloved

[torpid wadi]

Function over usability

[torpid wadi]

It’s a comedically odd looking gun

The vityaz though goes hard as fuck irl

[tawny carbon]

Aye man, the drum mag is the grip

[torpid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[tawny carbon]

Accurate asf to. Sadly not in 2042

I wish it was

I mainly wish MPX is in 2042 more. Top fav smg of all time

[torpid wadi]

Same ere

Would have been cool to have it as a mag option or something

[torpid wadi]

Having something like the mpx would have been cool

[tawny carbon]

MPX with drum mag is wifey material

[torpid wadi]

Sadly with the m5a3 having a 9mm conversion i reckon we won’t see any ar style smgs

[tawny carbon]

High power mag for smgs, ez

[gilded goblet]

[torpid wadi]

I think they should have swapped the damage models between the ak24 and the m5a3

[tawny carbon]

AM40 tho

[torpid wadi]

The m5a3 is shooting an absolutely bitching round while the ak24 is just shooting 5.45

[tawny carbon]

AM40 will haunt you for saying that

[torpid wadi]

Lmao exactly eh

[zinc raptor]

Oh ur actually not wrong on the numbers scz extended/drum = 2.51/2.67s, I just checked

Lol idk why they feel so diff to me

[tawny carbon]

It look different but barely longer.

The animation isn’t what your used to

[zinc raptor]

Mayhaps

[torpid wadi]

A 10nth of a second sure feels like a long time when you need more bullets right here right now

[zinc raptor]

What underbarrel do u run btw

Laser or BCG?

[torpid wadi]

The gun don’t recoil too hard so I’m liking ye olde flashlight

Haven’t used the gun a whole lot though yet

[tawny carbon]

10 extra bullet for 10th of a second is a huge positive trade off

[torpid wadi]

Still got a lot of shit to unlock

[torpid wadi]

Exactly eh

[zinc raptor]

On what

[torpid wadi]

The new smg

What is it called ingame again?

[zinc raptor]

scz

[tawny carbon]

Scz is very stable and accurate asf. It’s actually insane but isn’t op

The dmg range is ass tho

[torpid wadi]

Ahhh yes yes

[zinc raptor]

I had SB say the 5c is mid, but trying it out lately it abs owns

[torpid wadi]

Ahhh good thing i’m a medic anyways

[quaint vector]

They love me, right..?

[zinc raptor]

That like, all SMGs

kekw

[tawny carbon]

5c is fairly balanced

[tawny carbon]

They have skill issues and don’t think of the amount of AA is available to them

[zinc raptor]

Oh so that was u in my last game

C'mon man

||Why is everything disabled here :(||

[torpid wadi]

Infantry getting pissed off at littlebird mains, a tale as old as time

[quaint vector]

Have we met in the game.?

[zinc raptor]

I hope not

[quaint vector]

I'm not Nightbird main tho, took it out after like 2 years. Only flied with it when it was on BT back in the day

[torpid wadi]

Ahh i see i see

[tawny carbon]

Bt128p with lil bird is beautiful

[quaint vector]

And its very different now

[quaint vector]

I wish

[tawny carbon]

Especially on defender side

The good ol days

[torpid wadi]

A tear comes to my eye when i get killed by a littlebird then see they have a username based around being a pilot main

[zinc raptor]

Is that on rtn?

[tawny carbon]

Rtn?

[zinc raptor]

I feel like I only saw bt64

[quaint vector]

Rtn = Right now.?

[chilly jacinth]

apparently the reload for the SCZ is 2,8 for standard and 3,11 for extended

[tawny carbon]

O. Dice killed 128bt

[chilly jacinth]

empty reload

[tawny carbon]

And attack heli died in bt anyways

[zinc raptor]

Did u check sorrows asw😂

[chilly jacinth]

ye

[tawny carbon]

.3 sec barely any difference

[chilly jacinth]

thats peoples reaction time

[tawny carbon]

In battlefield?

[chilly jacinth]

in general

[tawny carbon]

Mmm 🤔

[zinc raptor]

Tactical isn't as bad but yh

perhaps there's a breakpoint

[tawny carbon]

If the bullet still in the chamber or not

[zinc raptor]

The other thing is, if ur running squads and everyone is half decent, there rly aren't that many scenarios where bullet matters that much

[torpid wadi]

everyone is half decent

That’s where ya lost me

[chilly jacinth]

You're talking about a miracle happening

[torpid wadi]

Actually one of the squads i played with earlier revived me so that was pretty cool

[tawny carbon]

If I’m in a squad or not. I still do my own thing at the end of the day

[torpid wadi]

I’m just here to run around and revive

[zinc raptor]

The u gotta try bf with full comms and calling strats. It was like a whole diff game for me

[tawny carbon]

Same. While shooting foes

[torpid wadi]

It’s amusing to see people bitch over the message board

[tawny carbon]

That’s doing to much. I’m not in it for a milsim

[tawny carbon]

I just have fun playing the game

Calling coms and strats in a very casual game is wild asf tbh

[torpid wadi]

I’ll be cold and dead before i milsim in bf

[zinc raptor]

I mean even for milsim u would still have a cap calling out what to do rt, etc.

[torpid wadi]

I’ll cold and dead in the ground before i milsim in bf

[zinc raptor]

A team with full comms can literally carry a whole side no cap

It feels rewarding

[tawny carbon]

Only game I call coms and stats in is R6S. Every other game I do my own thing and have fun

[torpid wadi]

I have almost never seen anyone in 2042 use comms

[zinc raptor]

That's respectable

[torpid wadi]

Or bf in general honestly

[zinc raptor]

If ur queuing randoms, yh, ur never getting comms

I agree

[tawny carbon]

Cod is the same way to. Almost no coms needed

[torpid wadi]

I only used comms in cod to make fun of people raging

Except for dmz that is

[tawny carbon]

I joined many VCs in both games. We fail miserably if we use coms and stats like it’s a milsim game. Compared to us just playing for shits and giggles to have fun and always top of the leaderboard and win

It makes no sense but I just stop giving a fuck while playing and I do better overall.

That’s me tho

[torpid wadi]

Somehow my performance consistently hits the shitter whenever I’ve played with a friend in bf

[zinc raptor]

ig it might not fit everyone chuckle

[torpid wadi]

Not like i even play more or less tactically lol

Christ was that free weekend something else

[tawny carbon]

I remember one VC for battlefield. We were talking about life and other games, no where near close to being battlefield related like school, cod and jobs, ect. We were flying through dubs in conquest/breakthrough

[torpid wadi]

Really brought out the toxicity in some people

[torpid wadi]

Sounds pretty nice

[zinc raptor]

I mean yh it's always a mix of both. But call outs are rly super nice

[tawny carbon]

Just have fun

[torpid wadi]

At best i get the occasional person who has their mic on but doesn’t say anything

[zinc raptor]

That's true, very true

[torpid wadi]

Or if they do they just complain lol

[zinc raptor]

Only goal of gaming

[tawny carbon]

We weren’t doing any callouts or anything like that. No milsim or anything related

[zinc raptor]

If ur not having fun, take a break, doesn't matter what

[torpid wadi]

If you’re not having fun that’s where you double down and play even more

[zinc raptor]

Well obv I'm not ruling out the possibility of that. Good games and bad games, the probability is there. Way to many other things contributing.

[tawny carbon]

I personally don’t have fun if I take any game serious. I end up failing in life at that point

[torpid wadi]

Exactly lol

I can take moments seriously but i dont wanna play games competitively

[tawny carbon]

Fax

[torpid wadi]

Unless i’m 1v1ing a friend or something

[zinc raptor]

Too much competitiveness in my nature haha

[torpid wadi]

Then i pull out all the toxicity

[tawny carbon]

Not even that tbh. I still have fun in 1v1s

[zinc raptor]

I respect that

[chilly jacinth]

man this free play period really did bring in more cheaters

[torpid wadi]

Oh i just think it’s fun to absolutely shit on someone

[chilly jacinth]

bastards

[tawny carbon]

Competitiveness brings out more anger and lost of confidence.

So deep in the game to the point you don’t care about your life and the future

[full burrow]

see I hate playing battlefield solo cos I alwats seem to get shitty squads, even just playing in voice makes a huge difference for me

just playing with one person*

[zinc raptor]

Hahaha, let's not get to the generalizations too fast

[full burrow]

but I dont sweat in bf, however doing a backcap and having 0 squadies spawn on you can be a bit sad, as least I can say to my friend hey if you die spawn on me

[tawny carbon]

I’m a solo player. If I play with others, I have to joke around. If you start saying coms and get mad over small things because the game to deep deep for you. I leave right then and there without saying anything

[full burrow]

like I do try but im not doing sweatlord shit, il respawn at the exact same spot and run straight and die 10 times in a row if I really feel like it lol

[zinc raptor]

Well playing as a team doesn't mean you have to get mad

[full burrow]

oh yeah im down for fun and games and shit

[torpid wadi]

Uuuh this is bravo alpha breaching, over