battlefield-2042

[tawny carbon]

Sometimes you can’t even leave your spawn after you just spawn in a heli. It’s actually annoying asf

Jets is very annoying as well. Fuck jets.

[mental delta]

The worst case situation would be that MP doesn't succeed as much as BR does and they choose to only update shitty BR lol

[shadow scaffold]

can i ask ingame technical issue question?

[tawny carbon]

If that’s happens to be the case. I’ll rest out on battlefield by then

For me. It’s base multiplayer or nothing.

[mental delta]

If that happens there's gonna be consequences...

Yeah MP is much more important than shitty BR

[tawny carbon]

Idk. Depends how well the BR community treats it

Free game is gonna bring in so much cheaters in general.

BR is gonna have nightmares while it being a free game.

Unless they actually step up their anti cheat. It’s gonna be bad overall. I’m just gonna say it now

Kernel level or not.

[mental delta]

Well thing is : BF community never asked for a NR game in the first place

Sure if it's free and playable many people are gonna try it out

[tawny carbon]

They failed many times

[mental delta]

But it's far from what we expect from BF as a community

Yes

[tawny carbon]

Making it free. Won’t make it better.

[mental delta]

I just hope it's not attached to main game and it's a totally different launcher

[tawny carbon]

It will be like a CodHQ

[mental delta]

I agree lol, it's just gonna be unfinished and bugged as usual

[tawny carbon]

It will bring more players in, sure. But as a free game. It won’t be better as I stated.

When are they gonna give up on the trend for battlefield.

That’s the real question to be asked

WZ as a BR fucked cod up. BR for battlefield can be ok or it will fuck up battlefield alone.

[mental delta]

It's probably gonna be the most blank and empty BR mode ever lol

[tawny carbon]

Who knows because it’s free

MTX is gonna be on fleek

[patent path]

braindead take

[lone void]

We already have Hazard Zone

[mental delta]

Even more if both games are linked, I don't want to be forced to install BF mode if I don't want to play it

[shadow scaffold]

Hey guys, is there a way to fix input lag? where can i some threads on this issue. thank you

[lone void]

Real small brain hours

[mental delta]

Yeah sorry, can't really do worse but hey it's Dice

[lone void]

Bro doesn't actually play the game

[patent path]

yeah the ak5c is just a good weapon it's not broken in any sense lol

[tawny carbon]

Dude is so blind not to see Visual recoil

[lone void]

Literally everyone else complaining about recoil being broken and this guy says "there is no recoil" 🗣️

[tawny carbon]

Hopefully they don’t pull a MW19 launcher. Download 200+ GBs just to play multiplayer which is half of that or less.

[patent path]

the hottest post is the one where shroud is talking about some bullshit like he matters lmao

why the fuck would anyone listen to shroud

[tawny carbon]

I enjoy watching shroud. But shroud don’t play 2042

Atleast, not that I’m aware of

[lone void]

Is he Faze clan or smth?

I fogor

I hate video game celebrities

[tawny carbon]

He was in Cloud9 before

[lone void]

They've ruined the fun casual experience

[patent path]

he was a pro csgo player turned battle royale shill

[lone void]

CS and BR both shit anyway

[patent path]

he shilled some really shitty BR games before

[lone void]

Bet he never shilled Cuisine Royale

[tawny carbon]

He’s a fantastic player but he mainly just plays alone or with some friends and his girl here and there while he streams now.

[patent path]

you'd be wrong

[modern stirrup]

I remember how great he was at pubg back in the day

[tawny carbon]

Pubg and Csgo. That man was fire 🔥 same with summit. I like how summit barely changed tbh.

[modern stirrup]

They played halo together just recently, seemed like they were having fun

[tawny carbon]

Summit does the same thing as Shroud. They disappeared from the comp scene over time. But just stream games for fun.

They were having hella fun on infinite

[modern stirrup]

Absolutely dominating the lobbies

[tawny carbon]

Best duo ngl

In any game tbh

[modern stirrup]

Any idea how long they’ve been friends for? Feels like forever

I guess they got to know each other back in cs days

[tawny carbon]

I don’t remember. I know it’s a long time.

[lone void]

At least 1 day

[tawny carbon]

Most likely.

[modern stirrup]

Watching summit play Sea of Thieves is also pretty fun although it’s nothing like the fps games he usually plays

[tawny carbon]

Idk why but for some reason I thought they were like brothers at some point kek. Then I realized they are just really good friends. Years ago.

[modern stirrup]

I guess the fact they both have been in the gaming and streaming scene for so long helps with that

[tawny carbon]

True true.

[modern stirrup]

Didn’t shroud make a 2042 video a few days ago?

Ah it’s just him reacting to another video

[patent path]

watched the enders' vid on the ak5c, lol what a fucking tool

talking about non-existent bugs without showing the bugs

uhhhh amateur hour dice hehe

[next onyx]

The only legitimate thing relating to guns he had ever brought up was in regards to the broken kobra sight.

[lone void]

He has apparently reached the point where his dumbass fanbase will just believe him because they're all convinced 2042 is entirely unplayable or something

Or at least he seems to think that way

[patent path]

"I hope this video has been informative" LMAO

[lone void]

He is the guy who will refuse to elaborate and leave when asked his opinion to improve something

[naive ember]

Dude quits matches when it doesn't go his way

[cunning dock]

someone help when im in game my mouse wont look down only left to right

[deft tinsel]

how's the sraw?

[patent path]

it's the sraw

[mental delta]

That's what I was specifically referring to lol

[lone void]

Launchers like that are just an awful idea

Less menus please I'm begging you

I just want to play one game at a time

[deft tinsel]

next battlefield will be a dating sim

[lone void]

[naive ember]

A little bit more than just dating

[lone void]

C-cuddling too?

[mental delta]

I can't play MW2019 anymore, a game I bought 80€ back in the days because Activision sluts fucked up the whole launcher with their WZ shit and made the game umfunctionable on PS5

[stone cradle]

Clearly it's intentional

So you buy the newest game

[mental delta]

Yeah not impossible, I paid a game full price and can't even play it anymore 3 years later that's crazy to see what modern gaming is

Fuck Activision

COD is garbage

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/stalone-kotik-gif-27560501

[naive quiver]

Cod is all about scammed the fans

[mental delta]

I pee on that mf's face

[mental delta]

Yeah I still don't get why people continue to buy that crap

[naive quiver]

Because deeply loved

[stone cradle]

People bought Vanguard, they'll buy anything

Vanguard was 2021's best selling game

[naive quiver]

Especially that cat face

Horse face

Coe face too

Cow

[stone cradle]

King Kong and Homelander

That can shoot lasers

[mental delta]

That fucking game 💀💀💀

[naive quiver]

Godzilla camo

[lilac dust]

This week in #BF2042 PORTAL 👉 🔸 The same Boring Shit🔹 More Boring Shit gamemode 🔸 #FNB - Another 64p capped gamemode cos we ban fun

#battlefield-legacy-titles #battlefield-legacy-titles2042

[mental delta]

Don't forget TWD characters, Lara Croft and Nicky Minaj with 15cm long heels on a battlefield

[dusty sparrow]

Hey folks

[mental delta]

Hey

[naive quiver]

who’s real dok

[mental delta]

Not him

[naive quiver]

@robust vapor @dusty sparrow

[stone cradle]

They made a camo that makes your gun transparent

[mental delta]

Bruh WTF

[stone cradle]

So you can see more around you while ads

p2w camo

[mental delta]

Lol they're not even hiding their P2W techniques now

Fuck this shit

This garbage exists because people buy those games and are fine with getting scammed

[tawny carbon]

Average cod moment

[mental delta]

Hope next game is shit so people waste their cash again

[tawny carbon]

I hope the BR is more of a waste than the multiplayer tbh

Although the next cod is made by treyarch. And it been in development for 4 years. And it’s gulf war era

[mental delta]

For next COD ? You think they're not planning to make it like WZ and make WZ2 contain multiple games at once ?

[tawny carbon]

Prob. Who knows 🤷‍♂️

It’s cod.

[mental delta]

Isn't next game supposed to be Cold War 2 as well ?

[tawny carbon]

Let’s see how Activision deal with BO:Gulf war

[mental delta]

[mental delta]

The name itself doesn't make me want to play it

[ivory canopy]

I was hoping Treyarch would make a WWI game

Can you imagine them running around with Chauchats for killstreaks?

[pastel plover]

where are vehicle weak spots or something or how do you do dmg to them with the antimaterial rifle?

[tawny carbon]

Atleast phill cleaned up Activision as a whole and its leadership. hopefully cod will do better from now on. @mental delta

[novel zephyr]

given how rife everything is with censorship, 'our team' and 'enemy team' type crap.

[tawny carbon]

I mean with how last CEO was and how they are treating their games. It’s needed for a clean up. Someone had to do it.

Phill cares about quality over quantity. For the devs and games.

[novel zephyr]

Here's hoping we'd get a return to form.

Maybe we'll even get a full 'cod, cod UO, cod FH, 2, 2BRO, 3, WaW, BO1, BO2, and MW3 (2011) remaster package.

[tawny carbon]

Obviously it’s takes time, it’s not an instant change and boom 💥 it’s better again. Hopefully they get it right and back on track.

[mental delta]

What did he clean ? The devs team you mean ?

[tawny carbon]

The leaderships and the positions.

As Activision themselves did layoffs for the dev teams. Not phill.

Sorry. I wasn’t specific enough. My bad.

[novel zephyr]

hopefully the layoffs were for good reason and not to punish the employees for the shite decisions they had their hands forced into making.

[mental delta]

It's ok, I heard there had been many cases of moral harassement as well and sexual harassement, hoope he cleaned that up as well

[novel zephyr]

drain the swamp, it's all ogre for the bastards that pull that crap

the day of Shrekening is upon them

[mental delta]

Idk why they would have been punishing them for making a successful game lol, from what I understood MW3 sold really well

[mental delta]

Wdym ?

[novel zephyr]

no, the real MW3 from 2011, not that shitty 'reboot' that sucked harder than a Kardashian on a Clydesdale.

[novel zephyr]

shrek reference

[mental delta]

Yeah but he was talking about MW3 2023 which apparently sold kinda well

[mental delta]

Never seen the original version lol, only French one

[novel zephyr]

That was crap man, writing was horrid, multiplayer's copy/paste, I can go on.

[novel zephyr]

forshammmmmmeeeeee

:[

[vocal tusk]

Layoffs in these larger companies are to improve how the company looks in the eyes of investors. AKA if you fire 500 employees...their wages are no longer on the books when budgets are being set for the next quarter.

Many gaming companies over grew during covid times. It wasnt sustainable. In those times because the gaming sector grew (Because half the world was working from home/stuck in their homes) so investment in the gaming sector also grew...this extra investment allowed for this bloated hiring.

[mental delta]

Don't get me wrong, I know this is huge crap, but I think it sold well anyway lol

Campaign was just some MW2 DLC

[novel zephyr]

to hell with investors, the real money makers or the people who actually want to buy the games.

[mental delta]

MP is basically MW2 DLC as well

Fuck COD lol

[novel zephyr]

idiots with money to burn aren't in short supply.

[vocal tusk]

these companies are publicly traded, they cant just say "To hell with the investors"

[novel zephyr]

If you can see a trailer and think 'well this'll bomb harder than nagasaki' you know the game's going to succ

[vocal tusk]

And contrary to popular belief...people with money to burn are in short supply. Just look at the situation Embracer got themselves...and all the studios they acquired into.

[chilly jacinth]

embracer wouldve been fine if the oil prince or whatever didnt pull out of investing in them

[vocal tusk]

Not a perfect example...because IMO they were acquiring in bad faith. They seemed to only do so to bloat out their portfolio in order to sell to the highest bidder. Instead of healthily acquiring studios with the aim of making good games and building a powerhouse publisher.

[chilly jacinth]

they kinda made deals assuming they would get the $

[patent path]

yeah that was why

saudi prince promised big bag of cash

then didn't deliver

[stone cradle]

next cod will have an 'open combat' campaign like mw3

so turning warzone into campaign

[patent path]

gross

[mental delta]

You're lying bro right lol ?

https://tenor.com/view/staring-meme-gif-705829194042584208

[stone cradle]

https://insider-gaming.com/black-ops-gulf-war-campaign-open-world/

no more traditional campaigns

[mental delta]

You don't want to play 30 minutes long open combat missions with shitty lore and catastrophic logic ?

[stone cradle]

but the missiles! and the gas!!

[mental delta]

That's some of the dumbest shit I've seen in months

[patent path]

I don't think any of the open missions in mw3 lasted over 10 minutes

[mental delta]

They're not going back to traditional campaigns at all ?

[stone cradle]

someone was able to speedrun one in under a minute lmao

[quaint vector]

This is Battlefield tho...

[mental delta]

Lmao you're kidding right ? Wasn't the whole point of making those kind of missions to make those longer while having to work less on those ?

[stone cradle]

the engine wasn't even the same as the other campaign missions

they just reused warzone maps and tacked on a story lmao

[mental delta]

We're bots paid by Activision management team to takeover BF server with COD discussions, for any questions or requests please, refer to COD discord !

[mental delta]

[quaint vector]

Time to mute those BOTs first...

[mental delta]

Ok I stop my shit don't mute me please

[turbid drum]

I haven't played BF2042 for like 6 months. Shall I play today?

[mental delta]

Yes you should, it kinda changed, have you played Redacted ?

[arctic grove]

Redacted is ass

I hate that map, it’s so one sided

So miserable

[mental delta]

Idk I like it sometimes but it's not really my cup of tea either, I prefer urban maps like Siege of Shangai or Devastation but this game doesn't any maps of this kind unfortunately

[patent pivot]

Worst than metro and locker?

[arctic grove]

Haven is kinda fun for me, but my favorite map is the dual sided desert/ green map split by a wall, idk the name

[arctic grove]

Redacted is the only one I can remember, cause I hate it so much

[mental delta]

Nah, those maps aren't particularly bad though, it's just that it's very specific layouts with very specific gameplay that many people don't like

Which I understand

[patent pivot]

Maybe if redacted has destructible walls

And an elevator opened to another floor

Maybe not so bad

[arctic grove]

If it didn’t have only three small paths that can be easily held it could be fun

[mental delta]

Bruh fucking right, the only thing those maps need is 2 floors

[patent path]

nope, the whole game was under 2 hours without the cutscenes

[patent pivot]

I thought reductive has multiple floors on conquest?

[mental delta]

That's laughable

[mental delta]

Not really, there are just some corridors that are a little lower than main battle areas but it's not really multiple floors

[patent pivot]

Ah

[vocal tusk]

Replaces vertical ziplines with elevators > problem solved.

[patent pivot]

Maybe add an exterior portion of the map

[vocal tusk]

Kinda changes the whole point of that type of map

[patent pivot]

No like locker

[mental delta]

For real elevators are sometimes a better option than ziplines, sure there can be some pricks waiting for you upstairs but at least you don't get shot while getting on a roof

[patent pivot]

Not metro style of exterior

[vocal tusk]

Locker is functionally identical, just with a different theme

[naive ember]

We enjoyed our battles there during s6 no need to change anything

[patent pivot]

Now I'm continuing to master falck

[royal trail]

rtss just released a new final version and i had hoped that it would finally work on ea anticheat. but sadly not. i guess its up to ea to whitelist it tho

[patent path]

you can't use rtss in 2042?

[royal trail]

not since they changed to ea anticheat

[robust vapor]

@quaint vector AK-5D0k

[quaint vector]

[robust vapor]

stelth setup

with sh0tgun

HE is good against d0zers

[kindred flint]

Subsonic scz is also good against dozer...and everyone else

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

We're pleased to share that EA Anticheat will be extended to #BattlefieldV this Tuesday, April 2nd at 08:00 UTC.

You will need to restart your game to benefit from the changes of this Client Update.

Learn more via our updated EA Anticheat Blog:
https://go.ea.com/BFEAAC

𝕏 · Mar 27, 2024, 2:40 PM

[chilly jacinth]

cant wait for 99% of the bf5 playerbase to evaporate

[kindred flint]

Oce players are saved

[fading hawk]

I can never get a vehicle on spawn… I have a really fast SSD and gigabyte internet yet somehow when I join a game from the start it’s already gone. I really don’t understand it.

[exotic sparrow]

is the battlepass worth it

[solid imp]

Write the book- more people need to know. Average rao enjoyer here 🙂

[fading hawk]

I assume people still macro

[chilly jacinth]

battlepass is only skins

so no

[ebon pilot]

I already wrote the book
#battlefield-2042 message

[solid imp]

put it on a tshirt in really small font

someone behind on the subway or bus or whatever will have good reading

AI makes me mad sometimes though... humans never spot a tugs. AI always spots the tugs

[patent path]

hundreds of reddit posts "bf5 sucks now"

[fading hawk]

Does anyone know why the helis in 2042… you have absolutely no dead zone one minute m and then you move your stick 1 inch and it’s suddenly like I’ve released an elastic band

Makes it impossible to aim

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

We're pleased to share that EA Anticheat will be extended to #BattlefieldV this Tuesday, April 3rd at 08:00 UTC.

You will need to restart your game to benefit from the changes of this Client Update.

Learn more via our updated EA Anticheat Blog:
https://go.ea.com/BFEAAC

𝕏 · Mar 27, 2024, 2:56 PM

[chilly jacinth]

might be flight assist or whatever

that tries to keep your heli upright

[fading hawk]

• with the delay to shooting its an asshole to kill people

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

We're pleased to share that EA Anticheat will be extended to #BattlefieldV this Wednesday, April 3rd at 08:00 UTC.

You will need to restart your game to benefit from the changes of this Client Update.

Learn more via our updated EA Anticheat Blog:

http://go.ea.com/BFEAAC

𝕏 · Mar 27, 2024, 2:58 PM

[patent path]

lol, anticheat delayed by 1 day, cheaters get to play for 1 more day

then bf5 playerbase will plummet

[patent pivot]

It'll be in turmoil

[viscid bone]

Technology serious business

[torpid wadi]

It will be amusing to watch one way or another

[fading hawk]

I just wish the littlebird flew like BF4 not like GTA. I know you have aim curves and movement curves but there’s still that floaty feeling of the littlebird. In BF4 they had weight and mass and you knew your limits because they were delicate. But in this one it’s like flying a kite in heavy winds.

Aiming on controller is like I’ve suddenly gained Parkinson’s

[vocal tusk]

They are aware of it cos they mostly fixed these issues with the attack heli

[fading hawk]

Have they been aware of it for 2 years or is this recent?

[vocal tusk]

Just didn't transfer those changes to other helis.

[torpid wadi]

Man I tried flying for the first time in a jet last weekend and it felt so bad

[fading hawk]

I was literally in the top 10 on Xbox one and 360 for little birds on BF4 back in the day but I can’t manage more than 1 kill using a controller on this. I could switch to M&K but it’s just not as comfortable personally.

[ebon pilot]

I hear the tugs more often than I see the tugs

Or I accidentally hack it

[lilac dust]

Unlocked AK-5C. Feels goooooood

[fading hawk]

Changing the curves helped marginally.

Just want to know what design decision went into changing something that wasn’t broken in the first place.

Helicopters are heavy. It shouldn’t feel like a plastic bag in the wind.

Same with jets

[patent path]

not sure if sarcasm or actually stupid

[fading hawk]

What’s that regarding? lol

[patent path]

the EA anti cheat coming to bf5

[fading hawk]

lol

Oh dear

[fading hawk]

What did you mean by this

[royal trail]

if u go to the ea site where they explain it all in detail and just read the first part they claim that both bf2042 and bfv will be updated with ea anticheat

some might get confused

[fading hawk]

@viscid bone I know you aren’t a developer but can we have some butter on the littlebird? It feels impossible personally on a controller. Feels like a combination of buggy stick deadzone settings, the weirdly unnecessary delay when firing and the little circle crosshairs which I’d hope you could’ve changed to a cross as it gets in the way.

[glacial quarry]

punishment for even playing helis

shame on heli players

[clear radish]

I feel like they reduced the maneuvering ability and weapons power of the nightbird heli‘s after the season 7 update, which makes it not enjoyable anymore.

[untold flower]

@glacial quarry no play?

[chilly jacinth]

the delay is the turrets spinning up im pretty sure

[glacial quarry]

maybe tmr?

[untold flower]

ok

[glacial quarry]

see how. busy with uni and helldivers

[fading hawk]

The manoeuvring ability was already potato I’m not sure what game they are playing.

[robust vapor]

W

P0glican is back

[fading hawk]

But that wasn’t a thing in previous titles and it was never a raised issue. Why fix something that isn’t broken?

Trying to time a shot when someone is crisscrossing across the map with a delay, a weird circle crosshair and the dodgy Parkinson’s aim sensitivity is like trying to juggle with one arm.

It’s a lot easier on a mouse and keyboard so maybe they just neglected controllers because.

GTA 5 flight physics are horrendous idk why they thought they should replicate them over to Battlefield

Big brain time

[clear radish]

Input delay will definitely happen in the game if you pushed you cpu to it‘s limit. I had that issue before upgrading my pc

[fading hawk]

I have a pretty beefy pc

At 240hz

No issue in any other game with vehicles

Just this one

[tawny carbon]

Just keep in mind, Activision did the lay offs

[fading hawk]

There are layoffs all across the game development scene unfortunately

[tawny carbon]

He’s gone now and hopefully it don’t happen again.

[tawny carbon]

That’s right. Although the at release MW22 sold more overall compared to MW23. MW23 have more consecutive active players playing the game compared to MW22. MW23 is growing in player base as we speak especially each season as it passes by.

[fading hawk]

I swear Warzone has better flight physics at this point and that’s saying something.

[glacial quarry]

@untold flower how is this season so far

im guessing the meta is roughly unchanged?

[patent pivot]

And yet, those players are brainwashed

So sad

[tawny carbon]

How so?

[patent pivot]

Really? It's obvious mw3 is bat shit bad

[tawny carbon]

It’s not bad. It’s way better than MW22 ngl

[patent pivot]

Even 19??

[tawny carbon]

That’s old IW bro.

[patent pivot]

Ok??

[kindred flint]

Being better than 22 isn't an accomplishment though

[fading hawk]

Call of duty has been as popular as it for so long for a reason. It’s always been a pretty simple couch chill shootemup now with the BR aspect. Just about everyone I know has grown up with COD. It’s a core in gaming at this point. It’s always going to have more active players.

[patent path]

I would say it's better than mw19

[untold flower]

ive been losing more often on the defense side on the new map in bt

[patent path]

mw19's slide canceling is way too cancerous

[untold flower]

the ak5c is decent

[patent pivot]

Okay. Assuming somebody already played mw19. You expect that person to buy mw3? Even they already got mw2

[untold flower]

i would still use the vhx

[patent pivot]

Answer me

[fading hawk]

I just don’t understand the naming schemes lol

[glacial quarry]

ah ok

[untold flower]

everytime i get the def side i just leave and re q

[fading hawk]

Call of duty naming schemes used to make sense and now they don’t.

[glacial quarry]

cant wait to get meet my number one fan olgac4 again

[tawny carbon]

Sledgehammer actually fix their game. Movement is back to a certain extent. Sledgehammer actually listens to the community unlike IW.

[patent path]

I buy every modern and futuristic cod, so I don't see the issue here

[untold flower]

i havent seen him since new szn

[glacial quarry]

lol

[patent pivot]

So that's still okay and ethical?

[tawny carbon]

Same… kek

[fading hawk]

I’ve always rated sledgehammer. MW2 had a terrible release. I can’t remember if MW3 was any better.

[tawny carbon]

What did SHG do to you?

[glacial quarry]

@untold flower how is chinese hacker population

[untold flower]

at its worst

must be the holidays in china or some shit

[patent path]

sledgehammer isn't actually that good, but mw3 I will admit is the best cod in recent years

[fading hawk]

Limited to their own region. They have pretty strict rules.

[tawny carbon]

Set for them getting fucked all the time by Activision and IW

[glacial quarry]

hacker in every game?

[untold flower]

ive seen a massive uptick in chinese cheaters

almost

just ask dok and tep

[glacial quarry]

dam

oh yall still play with tep

[untold flower]

i just invite whoever is online

[glacial quarry]

i havent played since helldivers

[fading hawk]

I think seeing that infinity ward logo appear as a kid is where the magic started.

[tawny carbon]

SHG is better than IW. IW now is completely Garbo team

[patent pivot]

You are actually serious?

[glacial quarry]

but will come back soon

[patent pivot]

You can want to waste on MW3 game that was roughly the same as mw2

[patent path]

yeah now they are

[untold flower]

i keep getting thrown into the def side on BT

ive re q about 7 times now

[glacial quarry]

is it a vehicle map

[fading hawk]

I don’t think any of the OG devs work there anymore. Similar situation to Battlefield. Trying to create something based on past success with no knowledge on how it was done bar some graphs and mockups.

[untold flower]

yes

[kindred flint]

New cod games only exist to fuel mtx for wz

[glacial quarry]

what maps is it most similar to

[fading hawk]

Same with just about every other AAA title

[patent pivot]

I don't like wz br

[tawny carbon]

Ever since they changed to anti community for MW22. They aren’t good anymore. Think and listen to the community compared to what you want for your game. It’s simple and EZ.

[patent pivot]

Give me simple multiplayer

[untold flower]

atk side gets apc and tank and def gets 1 tank after first point

[fading hawk]

As soon as lootboxes were threatened is when this BP cancer sprung to light.

[untold flower]

idk tbh i think its pretty unique

[fading hawk]

And MTX is worse than ever

[glacial quarry]

oh nice

[tawny carbon]

Same exact situation for IW, yes

[kindred flint]

it be true

[glacial quarry]

as long as no attack helis im happy

[tawny carbon]

Heli isn’t that bad in battlefield

[robust vapor]

@glacial quarry @untold flower yo we 3 at it again tmr?

[glacial quarry]

i need see first

[robust vapor]

[glacial quarry]

i got a lot of projects

[patent path]

re. Shroud talking shit. I didn't recall asking these morons to be my "ambassador"

[kindred flint]

How easily can the nightbird take out the spawn aa on Haven?

[glacial quarry]

but prob yeah i should have time

[fading hawk]

Season 7 could’ve been so much more.. Metro, Redacted 24/7 playlist. A few older guns brought back, some much needed changes that the community has requested, a little transparency on the future of the title and a kiss at the end. is it really that difficult?

[ruby citrus]

15 vehicles destroyed in one conq 64 round wowee

new record

[vocal tusk]

5 months of redacted 24/7 wasnt enough?

[glacial quarry]

youre talking about dice of course it is that difficult for them

[tawny carbon]

Metro is ass

Don’t bring back that trash map

[kindred flint]

People think shroud is some BF goat or something...

[glacial quarry]

redacted is a trash ass map

at least on BT idk about cq

[kindred flint]

Dude streams the game when it's financially good for him..then it's right back to his usual bread and butter games

[fading hawk]

Just a map where you can switch off

[ruby citrus]

blew up one dude that was clearly a rookie in a nightbird 4 times in a row, sort of started to feel bad but I need to grnid my lis T1

[vocal tusk]

Its a meat grinder...and does that job just fine. Its just not the type of map I can play for 5 hours in a row.

[glacial quarry]

stranded BT best map fr

[tawny carbon]

I will never touch metro again.

[fading hawk]

Of course not but it’s a franchise favourite. There’s a reason why Metro 24/7 was essentially the only thing propping BF4 up at times.

[tawny carbon]

I don’t like that map with a passion

[vocal tusk]

More maps need more defined vehicle availability IMO tho. Imagine how much more shit haven would be if they just allowed the kinda of vehicle freedom that is there on most other maps.

[tawny carbon]

I rather take redacted and locked over metro anyday

[kindred flint]

You all are just too weak for the metro experience

[patent path]

what I'm pissed about is that these creators think they are our ambassador because they have the platform reach, that's fucking insane, that's self-appointing yourself a title you don't deserve

[fading hawk]

I remember looking for BF4 servers at one point and the only ones I’d get were 24/7 servers like golmud railway and metro/locker.

[ruby citrus]

redacted is by a mile the best meat grinder iteration battlefield has had yet

[patent path]

I don't need some dumbass streamer decide for me how I should like a game

[kindred flint]

Remember that scene in James bond with the wicker chair and rope? That's metro

[fading hawk]

Defo doesn’t give metro vibes tho but it’s unique

[tawny carbon]

Metro is all about spawn trapping the enemy team than having fun

[patent pivot]

Wait for wr to come out

It'll be much better

[kindred flint]

But cats...if enders has a hot take on the game wouldn't you want the devs to listen??

[fading hawk]

What is WR

[patent pivot]

Warsaw revamped

[glacial quarry]

redacted = free win for defense

[ruby citrus]

its still a meat grinder, but a much better designed one imo, the dome areas help keep the combat feel less claustrophobic grenade spammy

[patent path]

nobody should listen to gamers, that's my take, I'm willing to die on this hill

[fading hawk]

They asked like 60-100 content creators for feedback and they listened to absolutely none of it. They only care when it affects their bank balance.

[ruby citrus]

if the attackers grow a brain and bring EMPs its actually a steamroll for attack a lot of the time

[tawny carbon]

How did they not listen?

[kindred flint]

Maybe the feedback was dog shit?

[fading hawk]

Just watch the shroud vod he explains it

[patent path]

they asked for non-bf creators what could be done to attract non-bf players, and they didn't listen, so that should be a good thing right?

westie said he wasn't asked, flakfire wasn't asked

[kindred flint]

Streamer feedback doesn't have to mean it's what the majority of the actual player base would have as feedback

[ruby citrus]

yeah asking someone like shroud who plays every shooter under the sun what he thinks battlefield should be when his playtime in battlefield is so tiny is laughable

[tawny carbon]

Community clearly wanted infantry focus and metro alike maps. They brought that back and alike. Still within the feedbacks tho.

[untold flower]

@glacial quarry no luck with games tonight

teams are fucking garbage

[glacial quarry]

its also quite late

[patent path]

yeah it's fucking crazy when they think streamers represent the whole playerbase

[kindred flint]

Dude wants to be a lone wolf getting clips...that's not BF

[glacial quarry]

i usually stop before 10:30pm

[ruby citrus]

the guy is good, his aim is off the charts, but yeah, he isnt relevant in regards to input on balancing

[fading hawk]

People play battlefield for vehicular warfare but there’s a certain charm to meat grinder maps that is just pure chaos.

[kindred flint]

Being an aim god isn't going to win a conquest match

[tawny carbon]

Community shits on vehicles and still do. they nerfed them enough where it’s easy to encounter them.

[kindred flint]

Oh no this game can't let me play it like a twitch shooter after I od on some gfuel?? Devs change this immediately

[ruby citrus]

I prefer battlefield over cod and others because
a) its a lot less personal, if some dude is terrorizing your ass the odds of meeting him again in a sea of players is way less
b) vehicle combat, big maps
c) nice mix of milsim style vehicles and arcadey gameplay like cod

[untold flower]

@glacial quarry ak5c is so mid

i dont even wanna t1 it anymore

[fading hawk]

The downfall of the title was when they re-released Metro and the locker room wall was no longer destroyable lol.

[glacial quarry]

what gun is it most similar to

im guessling like m416?

[ruby citrus]

holy shit im not able to 1v1 solo this tank devs please nerf what the fuck is this it just blew me up

[patent path]

ak24 lol

[kindred flint]

Ngl I run into the same people a ton.. because we're both being aggressive

[glacial quarry]

oh

no wonder its mid

[patent path]

it's a good gun, just not vhx good

[mental delta]

Yeah I heard MW3 grew a huge playerbase, I tested it on free weekend it was ok on some points but overall it's just MW2 DLC with shitty skins as well

[fading hawk]

Remember Metro with vehicles that was fun af

[glacial quarry]

ak24 trash ass gun imo

[ruby citrus]

honestly, good, bring out more mid guns, not the FOMO best gun of the season

GEW46 is another good example

[patent path]

close combat round boosts its fire rate by quite a bit, feels pretty good to ues

[ruby citrus]

perfectly solid gun that isnt overshadowing anything else

[tawny carbon]

It’s a reskin because it’s the same engine? I’m confused 😕

[glacial quarry]

most balanced gun is m5a3

[ivory canopy]

Watch the S8 map be in the Bering Strait

[kindred flint]

Ak with standard extended is goat smh

[fading hawk]

They’ve always quoted it as a “new engine from scratch” lol

[mental delta]

It's like being better than BF2042, should become the norm and typical example of what absolutely you shouldn't do while making a AAA FPS game

[glacial quarry]

just use lmg at that point lo

[patent path]

can't even argue against this because you can turn that thing into anything you want lol

[glacial quarry]

the fire rate and ttk past 10m is so bad

[mental delta]

It's a reskin because it uses half the guns of MW2 and got the same assets

[untold flower]

yeah but its mid bc it doesnt excel at anything in particular

[ruby citrus]

yeah its by far the best abuser of the plus system imo

[tawny carbon]

That’s a big lie. I can see it as it being updated. Not brand new for sure

[mental delta]

The what ?

[ruby citrus]

RM68 is also really good at abusing plus system imo

[glacial quarry]

as long as vhx continues being a laser beam ima stick to it

[fading hawk]

They even ruined the EOD bot. People used to run away from it. Now it gets destroyed within 0.4 seconds.

[untold flower]

[patent path]

wouldn't call it an abuser, I would call the other guns fucking losers at using the plus system lol

[ruby citrus]

I tier 1'd vhx then immediately dropped it cuz it feels cheap to use

[tawny carbon]

So you’re saying MW22 guns make it a reskin?

[ivory canopy]

The area that separates Alaska from eastern Russia. Has islands.

[ruby citrus]

yeah true, most guns got their bis setup that they never swap off of

[tawny carbon]

BF2042 as a whole can be called as a reskin. But it’s not a reskin tho

[fading hawk]

Not uncommon to reuse assets especially if it’s the same engine. It’s lazy but it saves time.

[ivory canopy]

I doubt they'd do a water based map with that, however.

[glacial quarry]

meta abuser

[fading hawk]

Bruh

[ivory canopy]

You'll love the Ak 5C

[fading hawk]

Battlefield?

[glacial quarry]

ill def give it a try anyway

once i unlock it

[mental delta]

Kinda yes, it's just reusing the exact same guns with same performances, same models and same customization options

[glacial quarry]

but i prefer fast ttk guns

[fading hawk]

Is this like the first BF title without water warfare?

[untold flower]

no? i main the vhx and the ak5c is mid as fuck

[kindred flint]

how dare you...tbh I was also abusing the fuck out of the underbarrels during my ak t1 time lol

[glacial quarry]

theres no need to use accurate guns. recoil is almost non existent in bf2042

[mental delta]

Ho boy, that sure would be a good place to fight in BF games, just not now...

https://tenor.com/view/staring-meme-gif-705829194042584208

[kindred flint]

Setting dozers on fire or 1 shooting never got old

[tawny carbon]

Let’s be real here. If that’s the case. Every game in a franchise is technically a reskinned. So no matter what we play reskin games. How is it an issue now?

For Example… AC mirage is just a reskin of unity and brotherhood.

Let me guess, your response is no?

[mental delta]

Not really because even though many games from a same franchise share the same guns and vehicles for example, most of the time the engine changes between episodes, as well as guns and vehicles models
Thing is MW3 uses the exact same engine as his predecessor, same guns models, and overall same assets, it doesn't make it really different from it then

[glacial quarry]

@untold flower might try pp29 now that it is 1.5x hs

[mental delta]

For BF2042, even though this game has been a huge pile of shitty garbage for more than 1.5 year, it's absolutely not similar to any previous modern BF games

[cloud niche]

Just bought bf 2042 cause of the 85% off. Is Portal still active?

[untold flower]

im still gonna switch to the vhx

[vague horizon]

Just another cashgrab

[tawny carbon]

I mean. Almost every cod game have an M4 or very alike. So every game have the reused assets tbh

[glacial quarry]

ya the vhx still top for sure

if not then the acwr

[frigid kettle]

Bf is trash

[mental delta]

Because it doesn't play like it firstly, and secondly because the assets are absolutely not the same (except for Portal ones but it's a very specific case)

[mental delta]

Yeah that's what I'm trying to say

[fading hawk]

Bring back Golmud railway

[tawny carbon]

M4 is an all around weapon tho. M5a3 is the same exact thing. What’s the difference?

[frigid kettle]

The name

[glacial quarry]

damage drop offs

[tawny carbon]

They still perform the same tho

[frigid kettle]

Hint: Changing weapon skin colour makes you play better

[mental delta]

Nah because there a literally a decade and a half between those games, moreover the assets aren't the same, the engine is absolutely not the same and gameplay is incredibly different between those 3

[cloud niche]

Would be dope but isn't it in Portal?

[tawny carbon]

You put it side by side. You barely won’t notice the difference

[fading hawk]

No

[glacial quarry]

M5 feels more like a smg

[fading hawk]

I wish

[cloud niche]

Does bf 2042 still have the overwatch hereos?

[glacial quarry]

i use short barrel tho

the dmg drop off diff is huge

[tawny carbon]

So engine, gameplay, every small thing matters. Even tho it’s the same exact thing at the end of the day?

[mental delta]

Yes and no, I agree with that idea that many games reuse same guns over the iterations, but if you compare BF2 and BF4 M4 for example it's slightly different lol, especially on the customization side

[glacial quarry]

one is like <30m 5 shot

[kindred flint]

Short barrels shouldn't exist

[glacial quarry]

the other is like 50 or 75m

[fossil trench]

Specialists? Yes. But most voicelines were removed and each specialist was put into a class like the older games

[kindred flint]

Making everything turn into a bullet hose is one of the big problems in this game

[tawny carbon]

Customization is small. The game can have it or not. It don’t mean anything tbh.

[mental delta]

It's not to me, AC Brotherhood has nothing to do with AC Unity which doesn't have anything to di with AC Mirage, 3 different games with 3 different assets, with 3 different engines and 3 different gameplay

[glacial quarry]

lcmg short barrel

[mental delta]

If you compare AC Origins, AC Odyssey and AC Valhalla yeah I agree because those are definitely similar games

[tawny carbon]

They all do the same thing. You are in an open world story as an assassin. Only thing is different is the era/theme. And some gameplay additions. Story is different from each other.

[kindred flint]

I ran that with close quarters... but normal barrel I think.. Same with the rpt

[mental delta]

It does, I think we would all notice the difference in here if we had to play 2 different FPS games, 1 with no destruction and 0 customization and 1 with more destruction and a lot of customization options, like it would be clear for most people that second game is more permissive and therefore really different than the first game

[tawny carbon]

They all do the same exact thing at the end of the day tho either way. It’s just a reskinned from each other

[thick crescent]

Anyone ever try to play. But never gets a lobby with anyone

[mental delta]

Well those points itself are proving those games are different from each other, if you're taking MW2 and MW3 that's just the same game overall just with more content

[cloud niche]

Hmm but they still got "abilities" like grappler from apex legends?

[tawny carbon]

Same with MW19 and OG MW2. You do the same exact thing. It’s just MW19 have updated graphics and movement and gameplay. The base/core of the game never changes.

[mental delta]

Kinda agree, even though I really liked MW2019 it was overall really similar to MW2 because the engine probably isn't much upgraded between those titles

[tawny carbon]

It’s the same exact thing at the end of the day if you compare them. Same or different engine.

They are all reskinned cods

Only thing is different in from each game is story, theme/era, movement, gameplay. That’s all.

The core/base of cod never changes.

Same with AC franchise. Same with BF franchise. They are all reskins at the end of the day.

[untold flower]

mw3 is garbage

id pay $10 for it not $70

[mental delta]

Well not really, the fact those are all games from the same franchise doesn't make those the same, you couldn't compare original MW3 with MW3 from 2023 for example lol, same goes for BO3 and BO Cold War

[patent pivot]

I can agree

[tawny carbon]

Only these changes to make that one certain game iconic from the rest.

BO3 and Cold War is a reskinned. They are both fast pace. You still rank up and prestige, create your class, customize your weapon. You but the game to do the same exact thing over and over again.

[mental delta]

I understand what you mean but not for me, I mean imo those are all different iterations of the same franchises which are all different from each others, but in some cases, some of those games are way to similar to each other like AC Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla or MW2 and MW3

[patent pivot]

That, I like to call the era of modern syndrome

[tawny carbon]

I see every franchise is reskinning the same game. Just #battlefield-2042 message that only gets changed.

[cloud niche]

The double jump was alot more different though

[patent pivot]

I see no reskin between 2142 and bad company 1

[tawny carbon]

So you’re saying double jump makes it a non reskinned game? Compared to every other game in its franchise

O, I add a feature. To make it not “reskinned”

[cloud niche]

It's a sPeCtRuM and that is making it less reskinned

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[tawny carbon]

If you put every game next to each other. Double jump is the last thing to worry about. But still dosent change the fact that it’s still a reskinned game

[pastel plover]

well if they are reskins doesnt that save you money since you can only buy one of them :D

[robust vapor]

double jump on your head

[mental delta]

PEAK GAMING

[tawny carbon]

They all perform the same at the end of the day. It’s easier for the devs not to think of making TF3 copy pasta and slap cod on it.

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/running-duck-bird-funny-in-hand-gif-11866949352257941606

[robust vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/running-duck-bird-funny-in-hand-gif-11866949352257941606

[cloud niche]

💀

[tawny carbon]

Hence another reason why Respawn didn’t make TF3. Yet they decided to go with apex instead. Because it will end up being a reskin from the last one. It’s not much of an upgrade from the last one.

[reef cliff]

Trying to get 5 multi kills for the mission is too hard.

[pastel plover]

I have heard this could be called "skill issue"

[cloud niche]

It's a sPeCtRuM and double jump changes the gameplay more then mw1 and mw2

Excluding graphics

[robust vapor]

@tawny carbon nice scream bro 10/10 mvp

[ebon pilot]

because grappling hooks have never been done in any past battlefield game ever

except battlefield 2

and hardline (though it was really a zipline launcher)

and 1 (but it was a melee weapon)

[cloud niche]

Idk but it's an example I personally don't like having more abilities then we had in bf4 and bf1

[robust vapor]

@ebon pilot

[ebon pilot]

lol

[lusty sigil]

ccant believe i gave this game the benefiet of the doubt and bought it again
and it wont even launch

[cloud niche]

Damn is there "skins in portal

[lunar forge]

I have a question, is the elite edition of the annual pass?

[lusty sigil]

is that operator israeli? sounds like hebrew

[robust vapor]

my operator? Arabian

[robust vapor]

some of the stuffs in Portal does have skins

[cloud niche]

Milsim or....

[robust vapor]

no it's just other past BF titles featured in Official Portal modes

not Portal servers created by community

[chilly jacinth]

Zain is from Egypt

[robust vapor]

community created portal servers definitely have their own rules set aside

[cloud niche]

Thank god

[cloud niche]

Are they active?

[robust vapor]

not sure I don't visit Portal servers

[cloud niche]

hmm I'll see I have 1 hour to refund in case the biggest reason I bought the game doesn't exist

[mental delta]

You bought the game because you think there are skins in Portal ?

[amber kelp]

Portal is active. It is entirely populated by terribly designed hardcore servers and XP farms

[chilly jacinth]

if you want milsim

battlefield is the wrong franchise entirely

[amber kelp]

JoinSquad

[lusty sigil]

the game wont fucking launch anyone know why?

[mental delta]

El Alamein, 24/7, no HUD, no vehicles, no shotguns, no grenades, no DMRs

[pastel plover]

After start of the new season, I've had to make sure ea launcher is running as well, I had previously disabled it running on startup

[cloud niche]

I bought the game cause I want to play portal and I want a battlefield experience WITHOUT FORTNITE Skins

[cloud niche]

Hardcore might be good tho. But having both hardcore and core would be the best.

[pastel plover]

HC servers in portal are just fucking stupid 800% dmg so stubbing your toe oneshots type of shit

[amber kelp]

It might be good. The ones in portal are not. The ones in portal crank every stat to the max value without rhyme or reason

[mental delta]

I get you so bad bro lol, but unfortunately only Portal got no skins, if people are playing with teams of previous games then there are no skins no matter which map it is

[lusty sigil]

both steam and ea are running

[amber kelp]

If the portal match has 2042 characters, skins are on. Otherwise there is no customization.

[mental delta]

You don't like 300% health damage with 5% health and 0 seconds vehicle respawns ?

[cloud niche]

BF4 I can't play cause I would be lvl 1 on pc takes way to long time to get all the cool stuff and bf3 I have but I wanna try the new weapon mechanics and also on bf3 there is like only 3 maps that people play and I've played them to much. Bf1 is great but not the same as bf3 and bf4.

[amber kelp]

MM yes the 9mm has instantly killed me through kevlar 500m away very realism

[mental delta]

Then you can try BF2042, but main experience has skins and stuff like this, Portal is ok though but not many servers active

[cloud niche]

Lol

[mental delta]

It's for realism bro

But somehow you can still make tanks fly

[pastel plover]

whats the issue with a few skins here and there? lol shit has been the norm for decades

[amber kelp]

are the Afghan war sim servers good? thats the only one that seems commonly populated

[amber kelp]

"Decades" is a bit long.
Also dont care if its the norm. Theyre ugly

[mental delta]

I'm ok with a few skins as you say personnally but I don't like current BF2042 art direction, last season's skins are a no-go for me, as well as most limited time events skins

[amber kelp]

Uniforms are not uniforms if they are not uniform

[mental delta]

[cloud niche]

Ye the skins kinda seem like the worst part of the official game if I want a unrealistic game with FORTNITE skins I'd play FORTNITE or COD which I play sometimes

[amber kelp]

Portal used to have what you were looking for with the "2042 w/ bf3 classes" servers but those have died off

[cloud niche]

Damn why?

[pastel plover]

I dont think so, could be that my game selection makes it seem so but I swear CS:S has had almost every server doing stupid shit in like 2010 or even before

[amber kelp]

Portal was quickly flooded with XP farms and trash

[pastel plover]

Good game btw, sadly most servers are russian nowadays

[mental delta]

I agree, I just think BF is more interesting than other FPS games to play because it had this almost "serious" vibe, otherwise we might as well be playing COD lol, it got more content and is more active than BF2042

[pastel plover]

after all battlefields are very arcady and casual shooters so I dont think having some even non fitting skins "ruin the game" or so

[amber kelp]

it got more content and is more active than BF2042
every time I try a beta COD has worse gameplay

[cloud niche]

Yes it's a great middle ground between squad, arma and cod

[amber kelp]

a game can be casual and still have taste in its art style.

[robust vapor]

wym almost serious vibe

look at this

[mental delta]

I agree, but overall it can look more attractive than BF2042 to many people for a lot of reasons

[robust vapor]

when I play as @mental delta

[pastel plover]

I havent seen any excessive skins anyways in this game

[cloud niche]

Impossible

[mental delta]

I mean "immersive" but if I say it like this Arc user is gonna break my knees

[robust vapor]

Arc won't break your knees

I will

cause I'm d0k

[mental delta]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-kurt-angle-stare-stare-guy-meme-guy-staring-meme-bald-guy-meme-gif-15047706772155378501

[chilly jacinth]

i can break em if you want

[mental delta]

Don't please

[cloud niche]

When speaking of the trolls

[robust vapor]

I will break it cause I'm evil

[pastel plover]

Only shooter that has ever been "immersive" and actually felt rly good to play to me has been Tarkov, that one doesnt have skins or stuff either, good game :)

[amber kelp]

BF "takes itself seriously" in that it has not opted to add rick and morty to its game. The bar is that low

[robust vapor]

[cloud niche]

Middle ground between tarkov and cod with milsim "graphics "skins.

[mental delta]

I'd like you to not break my knees please

[pastel plover]

Squad

[mental delta]

Santa Boris was excessive af

[cloud niche]

Middle ground between tarkov, arma, squad, insurgency sandstorm and cod

[pastel plover]

whats that, prolly never seen any1 use that

[amber kelp]

It was scrapped.

Thats the problem: in both V and 42 we know that they planned to go even stupider. If the games were successful, they would not hesistate to flood it with fugly shit immediatley

[pastel plover]

middle grounds are for weak tho, tarkov is rly good, would be awesome with less cheaters :D

[mental delta]

A skin which was so bad they had to not implement it because players freaked out

[cloud niche]

Eid mubarek

[chilly jacinth]

it was supposed to be for a limited time mode afaik

[pine roost]

that only means it's on el almain. So no

[pastel plover]

sheesh

[cloud niche]

El alamain 24/7😭

[mental delta]

"Thats the problem: in both V and 42 we know that they planned to go even stupider. If the games were successful, they would not hesistate to flood it with fugly shit immediatley"
Time for some excessive dev harassement then

Joking btw

[amber kelp]

Insurgency sandstorm feels kinda basic. Yeah its got a low ttk but all the weapons feel weightless, especially compared to Insurgency 1

[pastel plover]

I mean, biggest problem with skins I have in games is that when they offer advantage or take away clarity, then they suck otherwise who cares

[pine roost]

Unless loads of people buy up skins that make them easier to see

then I don't mind :>

[amber kelp]

otherwise who cares
I like it when my games are not ugly. It makes the game more fun

[pine roost]

paints a huge target on them

[amber kelp]

people using winter camo in HLL:

[mental delta]

Exactly, BF should just find a middle ground between attractive enough skins and too childish skins, imo most BFV skins were ok

[pine roost]

well 2042's aren't half bad

aside from the santa one I've not heard a major complaint with the style they've adopted since

[amber kelp]

BFV skins leaned way too much into "tacticool" to the point where they niether fit nor looked good. The skins they released at the end of the games life were much better in every aspect

[cloud niche]

They can still sell milsim skins I don't have a problem with that atleast keep somewhat a milsim atmosphere

[mental delta]

In less than a decade COD went from delivering basic skins which offered no advantages to paywin skins (even though those are rare), don't want same shit to happen with every other franchise

[cloud niche]

I personally find that one to much but eh just me

[mental delta]

Yeah I'm talking about end of game skins, like the GI skins were good af imo

[amber kelp]

^
Slippery slope is not a fallacy when the slope has been observed to be slippery. Skins lead to more skins.

[kindred flint]

MW now has invisible skins

[cloud niche]

Ye they need to fit with WW2 hehe kinda obvious

[mental delta]

Me too, I'm absolutely not against skins, just don't turn it into some flashy blue/gold shit like last season skins

[mental delta]

Dude WTF ?

[amber kelp]

Am I wrong?

[mental delta]

Idk WTF that even means

[pastel plover]

Not sure what cod skins have been "paytowin" I havent been that big of COD fan, played cold war a bit and the new MW2 I Think idk which one it even was lol

[cloud niche]

Am I wrong for thinking out the box from where I stay, Am I wrong🎶

[amber kelp]

What Im saying is that allowing any skins is a "slippery slope" which will lead to COD like nonsense.
Many people say that "slippery slope" is a fallacy. While normally true, it stops being one when we have seen this exact thing happen to tons of games

[cloud niche]

The groot skin from MW2

[pastel plover]

that looks pretty annoying wtf is that lmao

[cloud niche]

Hehehe Invisible skin

Really hard to size the outlines on it

[amber kelp]

man people paid for that shit?

[cloud niche]

It's pay to win. I bought it when I played ranked. I don't care about atmosphere in cod since that train has left the station ages ago. Also it's MORE arcady then BF.

[mental delta]

Idk apparently they made some too dark skins that were lass visibe by other players

[mental delta]

I kinda agree, they could just find a balance problem is the community is gonna buy any crap you feed them and aren't gonna complain if you deliver shitty stuff

[amber kelp]

Real talk: why are people's fashion sense in videogames so bad? Outside of old source games people seem to love the ugliest, most out of place pre packaged crossover shit.

[cloud niche]

Groot skin is pay to win

[amber kelp]

aside from that though

[cloud niche]

Ye idk

[pastel plover]

I dont think so, there are a lot of ugly and "fun" skins in league, rarely see any

[cloud niche]

Atleast in FORTNITE the skins make sense since the game is already very goffy witout them

[amber kelp]

One would think, if youre going to pay the absurd price of $20 for a single asset, then they would pick one that actually looks good

[pine roost]

That's what confuses me, literally everyone I've ever spoken to has hated crossover skins or just generally cringe ones, yet they keep pumping them out. So either there is some quite sector of players who buy it all up that we never see, or they just want the partnership money alone.

[cloud niche]

People keep buying them

[pine roost]

but who

and why

[cloud niche]

Streamers and kids

Oh Niki minaj in cod that is so funny

[exotic sparrow]

i buy like all of cods crossover skins lmao

they funny

[amber kelp]

CONSOOOOOM

SKIIIIIIIIN

[pastel plover]

idk but 20 dollars for a skin, aint no1 paying that much for shit? wtf

[cloud niche]

Post modernism in a nutshell and I'm part of the problem

[cloud niche]

There is. Fortnite made it standard and accepted

[amber kelp]

BUY NEW SKIN -> NEVER USE OLD SKIN -> BUY NEW SKIN -> NEVER USE OLD SKIN -> BUY NEW SKIN -> NEVER USE OLD SKIN

[cloud niche]

What else is there then dopamine in world devoid of purpose?

[pastel plover]

i mean I guess if people buy them for sure, fucking hell, I wish i had that kinda money to throw around lmfao

[pine roost]

When i actually played and enjoyed fortnite I'd say I bought about £40 worth in total, because I actually liked the game. After quitting it, and realising I would never even use those again, is what made me realise that it's not really worth it

and I've not bought any skin since

[amber kelp]

I have bought one battlepass in my life. It was unfun to push through and the buyers remorse set in almost immediatley. I do not understand why people love those things

[pine roost]

same here

again it was with fortnite lol

[cloud niche]

Addiction to progressing and since the normal progression and lvl is unrewarding

[amber kelp]

At least when fortnite came out it was a new thing. You could think "ay thats neat lets see how it goes", then learn your lesson and never touch them again

[pine roost]

I don't care about skins, and i want to play at my own pace, with whatever game I want at the time, which is the antithesis of who a battlepass is for

[amber kelp]

since the normal progression and lvl is unrewarding
I wonder if there is a monetary reason to make them like that
hmmm

[mental delta]

I'd rather pay 5 more euros to get a proper DLC with a decent quantity of content

[pine roost]

indeed

[cloud niche]

Shush🤫

[pine roost]

some people end up treating skins as content which makes little sense

[amber kelp]

its fine theyre "just cosmetic"
"dont effect the game in any way"

[arctic grove]

[amber kelp]

😉

[pastel plover]

5 euros for DLC is a lot tho

[arctic grove]

The price of skins these days you can’t go wrong with premium returning

Though unfortunately it is an industry standard to have battlepasses and free stuff

[cloud niche]

Crazy to think a corporate culture dissregards everything but monetary gain this ain't the 90's and the early 2000's

[amber kelp]

not to mention that the biggest complaint about premium is just outright wrong.
Even BF3 premium maps are still alive and that game has like 4 servers left on PC. On BF1 there are more mixed servers then standard ones. Only DLC maps that die are ones nobody wants to play

[unborn timber]

'afternoon, folks

how's everyone doing?

[arctic grove]

💯

[amber kelp]

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human being to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.

[unborn timber]

based.

[pine roost]

cheese

[cloud niche]

Idk in some games premium dies and only vanilla lives

[amber kelp]

which ones? Cause 3, 4, and 1 have most of their premium maps online.

[unborn timber]

so, uh

would this channel be the best place to discuss BF2042 lore?

[arctic grove]

As far as battlefield goes 1 and 4 still have good player counts in NA and Europe, and I play bf1 dlc all the time

[mental delta]

I said 5 euros more so 15 euros

[cloud niche]

Some games idk enough about premium in bf off the top of my head

[mental delta]

You mean codex ?

[unborn timber]

?

[cloud niche]

Is there even lore?

[pastel plover]

lol, I wouldnt pay 5 euros for DLC when the game is 8 euros :D

[amber kelp]

well I listed 3/4 BF games with premium. The 4th one is Hardline which is completely dead

[unborn timber]

yeah

it's not explored much, but it's there

[amber kelp]

Yes, the problem is that noone cares

[unborn timber]

i.e. character lore, worldbuilding, timeline

[arctic grove]

People complain if premium is an extra 40 or so (unless you buy premium edition of the game) but fail to realize the community is 100% okay with throwing the price of a brand new triple A game at skins

[unborn timber]

... aight.

[vocal tusk]

I mean...even BF1 already solved the premium issue. As long as the player who invites/starts the party for play owns premium...all other players can play the DLC maps. Even if they dont own them

[amber kelp]

42 lore is just kinda mid. Its only surface level details of things to justify the newest skin
consooom skiiiiiiin

[vocal tusk]

S7 doesnt even have this

[amber kelp]

are the skins not PAC stuff?

[vocal tusk]

Or barely does. Its a very watered down version of it

[patent pivot]

Naval season: lochness monster skin

[vocal tusk]

I personally dont care about the narrative, so ill not even comment on it

[arctic grove]

IMO, skins are even less valuable in a game where both factions are using the exact same dude

[amber kelp]

welcome to the secret laboratory where they are using future technology to make PLAYER SKINS FOR $10 USD

[vocal tusk]

You can almost guarantee that skin sales are all that kept this game going tho.

[unborn timber]

I actually really like the lore

[amber kelp]

Kinda confused they didnt just use BFV's system. Maybe with a slight rework since leg cosmetics are kinda boring, and they could have made them class restricted.

[unborn timber]

it's not lore from, like, Halo

but it's pretty high up there for me in terms of interest

[shadow scaffold]

hey all

[unborn timber]

heyo

[shadow scaffold]

may i ask a technical question

[arctic grove]

It was interesting until specialists were involved tbh

[arctic grove]

True

[unborn timber]

I do really, really wish we could play as generic soldiers/Marines again

[amber kelp]

even if there werent specialists, the lore is extremely disconnected from what we see in game. Aside from the music, very little of the lore's tone or gravity is reflected in game.

[fickle wharf]

muh lore must be tied to gameplay

[amber kelp]

I mean, yeah. It should, flat out.

[mental delta]

Lore is linked to in-game codex

[arctic grove]

IMO that’s the fault of specialists being there and not other character models that actually feel like the lore is playing out

[patent pivot]

And bring back old voice lines

[unborn timber]

what I would give to deploy lookin' like the US Marine Rifleman (in this case, US AI*"Assault Class"*)

[unborn timber]

YES

[arctic grove]

Though I can’t comment on all specifics of the lore since I never kept up with it after like season 4

[patent pivot]

THEY'RE LIGHTING ME UP

[unborn timber]

I will gladly record voice lines for generic grunts so we can hear some real immersion again

[fickle wharf]

to story was originally tied to hazard zone so when that went to shit they turned into text dumps

[patent pivot]

AWW SHIT, MY NUT SACK IS TIGHTENED

[mental delta]

Lore is shitty af lol, they're just making some shit up every season to look invested in their connected BF lore

[unborn timber]

GET DOWN HE'S GONNA TAKE A DUMP ON US

[fickle wharf]

made up

[pine roost]

I loved it when the characters would comment on minor things like you getting a promotion

[amber kelp]

But also with the exception of Hourglass, the world seems fine. Even in Hourglass, buried in sand, the city lights are still running and the buildings in good condition. The world does not feel at all like there is even a war happening, much less like there is a worldwide ecological collapse

[fickle wharf]

all seasons are tied together from 1-4

[patent pivot]

I SMELL A SWEATY SNIPER IN YOUR AO

[fickle wharf]

5-7 seasons are a new story

[mental delta]

What ? They're not producing lore bullshit anymore ?

[unborn timber]

GET YER BALLS OUT OF YOUR MOMS PURSE AND GET BACK OUT THERE

[shadow scaffold]

lol

[fickle wharf]

they are ?

[patent pivot]

GRENAAAAAADE

[mental delta]

Idk bro I ask you

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah true I remember this being a talking point, I agree

[mental delta]

[unborn timber]

Bad Company 2/BF3/BF4 US voice lines were perfect

[shadow scaffold]

guys, can anyone assist me with fixing the input lag in game ?

[unborn timber]

and then we can't forget BF1's voice acting

never forget their voice acting effort

raised the bar hella high

[shadow scaffold]

pretty please

[amber kelp]

comparing to 1 is just unfair

[unborn timber]

?

[amber kelp]

nothing can top that.

[mental delta]

Best voiceacting is the game in which you can hear "get your dicks in the dirt"

[unborn timber]

ah okay

[mental delta]

Was really one of those BF moments

[unborn timber]

BF1 sits at the top for voice acting and immersion

BF Bad Company 2/BF3/BF4 sit right below it

[amber kelp]

I wonder if the Ruskies in bf3 are as vulgar. I have no idea what theyre saying

[fickle wharf]

had a funny moment with the generic voice over from a teammate

"IM GETTING SHOT, Hell yea" from the same player

[mental delta]

Game was still disturbing as well for people who documented themselves a little bit about WW1

[unborn timber]

ah, well, the voice actors for the Russians in BF4 weren't too great

[mental delta]

They're in all BF games prior to BFH I think

[amber kelp]

ah thats a shame. Is it kinda like Enlisted's Americans?

[unborn timber]

yeah

[amber kelp]

oh god

[mental delta]

In French versions it's just Russian and Chinese language

[unborn timber]

the accent is horrible

the chinese voice actors for BF4 did excellent

not gonna lie

they even managed to sprinkle in some variety of regional differences in dialect

[amber kelp]

you understand all 3 of these languages enough to judge that?

[unborn timber]

I've seen a number of reddit posts

[amber kelp]

[unborn timber]

chinese folks and those fluent in it praise it

[unborn timber]

not to mention in the comments of youtube, some chinese players praised the game for doing good work on it

[amber kelp]

the CCP, a few weeks later:

[unborn timber]

... sighs

yep.

[arctic grove]

+999 social credit score

[amber kelp]

TBF, idk what EA was expecting running that campaign plot through the CCP

[unborn timber]

I've been studying a little bit of Chinese recently tho

been getting more and more into Firefly

and if you've seen it, you'll find it obvious that they got away with swearing-- as long as it was in chinese

[patent pivot]

Can you identify bf4 Chinese lines

[amber kelp]

You can do China vs US and not get banned in China. Squad managed to do this. Theres even a map in China now
But in BF4 the CCP are outright cartoon villains who start ww3 for no reason.

[unborn timber]

there's a distinct difference between Chinese, Russian, and American-English

like

it's hard to explain since I'm not a fluent speaker

[amber kelp]

Russian is much closer to English/German/Spanish than you would expect. Not close but closer than youd think

[unborn timber]

like, uh
think of it this way. You know those sound effect words you make for stuff like unsheathing a sword, or if you say something that starts with the two letters "sh"

kinda like that

lots of it

that's my best way of trying to explain chinese

probably a horrible attempt

but it's the best I can do rn

[amber kelp]

Shī Shì shí shī shǐ"

Shíshì shīshì Shī Shì, shì shī, shì shí shí shī.

Shì shíshí shì shì shì shī.

Shí shí, shì shí shī shì shì.

Shì shí, shì Shī Shì shì shì.

Shì shì shì shí shī, shì shǐ shì, shǐ shì shí shī shìshì.

Shì shí shì shí shī shī, shì shíshì.

Shíshì shī, Shì shǐ shì shì shíshì.

Shíshì shì, Shì shǐ shì shí shì shí shī.

Shí shí, shǐ shí shì shí shī shī, shí shí shí shī shī.

Shì shì shì shì.

[unborn timber]

oh christ

[fickle wharf]

bing chilling

[unborn timber]

rn I'm busy trying to brainstorm a No-Part community on an Evergreen G-Class Cargo Ship

[unborn timber]

bing chilling.

[unborn timber]

I already brainstormed a USN/USMC Amphibious Assault Ship set in the story I have, now it's just a matter of the No-Pat community on the largest fucking cargo ship we have today

[fickle wharf]

what

[unborn timber]

working on a story idea that I had set in BF2042

[fickle wharf]

why the cargo ship tho

[pine roost]

Cause why not

[unborn timber]

it's big. can fit a lot of people. can be self sufficient using the expansive space on it

use modified shipping containers as homes

and house hydroponic gardens

[amber kelp]

I suspect this story could be much better if you set it in your own setting. Could be better thought out

[pine roost]

It’s basically just the exodus but bigger

[unborn timber]

yes

[fickle wharf]

[unborn timber]

hey man, people gotta eat

they can fish, so there's that, too

[fickle wharf]

so its not stranded or such ?

[unborn timber]

I was also thinking a handful of smaller boats would be part of the community-- as escorts and fishing vessels

[unborn timber]

no

[fickle wharf]

[unborn timber]

this one's still on the water

it's fucking massive

if you search up "evergreen g-class cargo ship"

you'll see what I mean

lots of space that can be used

and with the containers being modular...

homes, schools, gardens

[fickle wharf]

dont you think you could have gone with something smaller?

[unborn timber]

nah

[fickle wharf]

major ass pain to defend

[unborn timber]

hence the escorts

I was thinking maybe some rag-tag Navy/Coast Guard guys on a handful of ships from europe (like, Spain or The Netherlands, etc)

since those countries had collapsed and whatnot

[amber kelp]

So, question: what is this story about

[unborn timber]

won't say much about the storyline

[amber kelp]

not the plot. What is it really about? What are you trying to convey, or explore?

[unborn timber]

different timelines

[amber kelp]

thats just a sci-fi concept. I mean something deeper.

[fickle wharf]

[amber kelp]

themes, ideas, messages. What compels you to write it

[fickle wharf]

what

[unborn timber]

where it all starts is that a No-Pat scientist was working on some shit that he salvaged-- shit that the US Government was working on in secret during the cold war

[unborn timber]

I know, I know

[unborn timber]

look, it's complicated

[royal trail]

so ive been playing with a 120hz monitor instead of a 60 for a while now and i dont feel that much of a difference. what i do notice is the loss in fidelity tho as i had to decrease the resolution to reach a constant 120fps

[fickle wharf]

ive read fan stories based on the 2042 universe without timeline bs

you might wanna re consider that

[amber kelp]

I mean that depends. What is the story about?
If it is something that timelines explore, then it makes sense to add them.

[unborn timber]

ah shit, I gotta go guys

something came up

fuck

[amber kelp]

Entering a timeline where 2042 is a good game

[pastel plover]

youre lying : D

[royal trail]

no lol

[pastel plover]

its huge difference i swear

[royal trail]

well i cant feel it

[fickle wharf]

muh bigger hz

im still in 60hz

[pastel plover]

its such a big disadvantage to have tho

[chilly jacinth]

going back to 60 youll notice for sure

[royal trail]

maybe

[pastel plover]

144->300 wasnt as noticeable to me, when I tried my mates monitor but the jumps from 30->60->144 are huge

[royal trail]

below 60 i can feel it aswell. but ye. who knows

[pastel plover]

I mean I also made the mistake of jumping from 1080p to 1440 and cant go back on that either

I mean obviously depends on the game, I had to framelock AC odyssey and valhalla to 100 frames bc I cba make my GPU run at 100% it gets so loud lol

but any FPS or other esports type games or so, hell no, not playing under 144, rather lower graphics

[pine roost]

1680x1050 60Hz to 2560x1440 144hz was absolutely heavenly

[ebon pilot]

I've heard that voice line multiple times in 2042

[pine roost]

I didn’t even have a 1080p monitor…