battlefield-2042

[remote kiln]

they knew that anyways

[spare depot]

it's a nice feature for flag defenders, not so nice for attackers

[arctic grove]

its backwards to me because ive played war thunder a lot

[ebon pilot]

it's great for attackers since now you know how many you likely need to deal with

[tawny carbon]

ngl i dig the sector for flags

[remote kiln]

yes they still know if you're there lol regardless

[spare depot]

yes but can also be detrimental if playing more stealthily

[spare depot]

no? you could have dipped from teh flag in BF4 and they wouldnt have known

but in 2042 it will tell them if there's an attacker on the flag or not

[remote kiln]

and they just wait for the flag to begin ticking down again

it's not any different

[tawny carbon]

^

[spare depot]

it's very different

lol

[remote kiln]

no it's not lol

[spare depot]

yes it is

[remote kiln]

you don't just magically disappear when leaving a flag in 4

[spare depot]

that's not the point im making

i'm saying in 4 you could be on the point with 3 enemies and they wouldnt know you were there

in 2042 they will know youre there

[remote kiln]

they know, that you are on the point, because you begin counting down before any arrive

[spare depot]

it's not about the burn

im not talking about when there's no enemies on the flag...

[tawny carbon]

its just a bonus feature. it still does the same exact thing either way

[proper jungle]

Will they ever remake Battlefield Bad Company 2?

[remote kiln]

do you not get it didn't matter if they couldn't find you, they leave the flag and it begins ticking

[spare depot]

a bonus feature that has its pros and cons

[remote kiln]

so they know you're there lol

[spare depot]

lol? it's not about the flag ticking, it's about being able to move around the flag without them knowing you're there

[limber sedge]

hii @tawny carbon

[spare depot]

which you cant do in 2042

[remote kiln]

moving.. or staying still.. still ticks the flag..

[tawny carbon]

its just a pro for player count on flag. but flag still ticks if you override them or you leave either way

[spare depot]

not while enemies are on it

[pine roost]

that I can see why, but to me war thunder feels backwards cause I play bf

[spare depot]

LOL

[remote kiln]

then what are you saying?

because they leave like I said

[stone cradle]

what are you guys going on about

[remote kiln]

and it begins ticking

[spare depot]

im not talking about when they leave

[remote kiln]

..?

[spare depot]

im talking about fighting them while theyre still in teh flag

do you just crouch walk around waiting for people to leave a flag

sounds like it

lol

for us aggressive players, its a detriment

[ebon pilot]

why would they stay if they think they're holding it

[remote kiln]

fighting? you think they cant see muzzle flashes of your bullets and you lighting up on the minimap?

[frank tartan]

trophy systems are so cringe

[remote kiln]

you don't make any sense here

[spare depot]

you dont have simple comprehension skills

no worries

blocked

[remote kiln]

apparently me and the rest of the channel don't ig lol

[cedar spire]

doc dont know what is he talking about

delusional

[remote kiln]

no idea either good question

[spare depot]

nah bro, i think 2500 hours is plenty of time to know what i'm talking about

[remote kiln]

just more confused

[spare depot]

what's your EA id, pokerface?

[limber sedge]

does anyone play hazard zone its so fun

[remote kiln]

man's not happy lol

[patent pivot]

if you like BR sure

[cedar spire]

People have 5k hours in Dota2 or CS 2 and still dont know how to play

[limber sedge]

idk but when i play, its so dead

[spare depot]

origin ID?

[cedar spire]

Tell me more

[stone cradle]

ghost town these days

[remote kiln]

#hazard-zone

[limber sedge]

it reminds me of DMZ

[tawny carbon]

he said "pokerface" lmao

[patent pivot]

nobody likes BR / DMZ

[spare depot]

that's literally @cedar spire name

[cedar spire]

Dude want my origin ID because he want flex with his 2,5k hours

[spare depot]

that's right

[remote kiln]

doesn't like being wrong ig

[spare depot]

drop it, buddy

[tawny carbon]

he wanna compare useless stats

[ebon pilot]

it's funny how many people, in the face of people saying they don't understand what they're saying, will refuse to restate and clarify their argument with more detail and instead just say "ur stupid, blocked"

[spare depot]

want me to clarify?

[ebon pilot]

YEA

[spare depot]

all right

so here's the scenario. you (solo) are on a flag vs 3 enemies

you don't have the friendly:enemy ratio counter in BF4, but you do in 2042

which situation do you think will be more beneficial for you to 1v3 them?

it's double-edged

[remote kiln]

right I'm sure they totally aren't going to see you entering the flag to begin with

you just teleport there or something

this hypothetical scenario which never happens

[spare depot]

@ebon pilot

[cedar spire]

Shh, he is pro player with 2,5k Hours

[remote kiln]

[spare depot]

still waiting for your EA ID, lil man

i'll carry you in 2042 if you want

🙂

[frank tartan]

coming from a player with 2501 hours your wrong pal @spare depot

[remote kiln]

apparently battlefield 4 has teleportation perks none of us know except him

[cedar spire]

Carry? We have tournaments or rankeds in BF?

[spare depot]

🙇‍♂️ teach me, master

[cedar spire]

I playing BF for fun

[proper jungle]

howoften does 2024 have free weekend?

[tawny carbon]

either way your either fucked or enemies give up searching and leave. it will still be constant either way and they will know it by entering the flag capture radius or see it from a far

[spare depot]

about once a season

[proper jungle]

how many months is a season

[polar wharf]

too much talking,show tracker stats lil mans

[spare depot]

nope, my point is in BF4 you can enter a zone without them knowing, in BF2042 you can't

[frank tartan]

anytime u want ill do 1v1 or 4v4’s

[patent pivot]

which I HATE in 4 for that

[spare depot]

sure thing bud, drop the epic ID

[patent pivot]

at least 2042 restricts it

[spare depot]

see, i loved that in 4

[remote kiln]

I'm genuinely surprised he's convinced himself that a impossible thing happens in battlefield 4 lmao

[patent pivot]

hell no

[spare depot]

i rush flags like nobody's business in BF4

[tawny carbon]

you will still know either way

[spare depot]

much harder in 2042

[patent pivot]

I hate spawn killers at my base

fuck them

[spare depot]

not in BF4, not until you kill people

in 2042 you're at a disadvantage the second you ste[ into that zone

but not in BF4

that's my point

[patent pivot]

and if you think that's the best aspect of the game, youre fucking insane

[spare depot]

it's not the best aspect of that game

it's just an aspect i enjoyed

[remote kiln]

audio and gunfire muzzle flashes of bullets don't exist

[patent pivot]

well fuck that

and screw you

[remote kiln]

I suppose?

[spare depot]

the movement and gunplay was much better in bf4 too

as well as weapon balance

[remote kiln]

and you magically enter a flag with no one seeing you lol

[patent pivot]

that, gunplay was far better in 4

[spare depot]

agreed

[patent pivot]

but I dont agree with spawn kills

[spare depot]

spawns in 2042 are atrocious, mate

especially on the new map

bf4 they were predictable but fair for the most part

[tawny carbon]

spawns in any game is bad.

[patent pivot]

at least they cant enter our bases

[frank tartan]

i dont play on pc

[spare depot]

especially in conquest

[tawny carbon]

any mode spawns is bad

[ivory canopy]

I loved BF4

[spare depot]

i do, i can still add you though

[spare depot]

🤝

[ivory canopy]

ofc I played after all the glitchiness

[spare depot]

BF4 the best battlefield

[tawny carbon]

spawns is the wost thing to balance in any game and any mode

[spare depot]

@ebon pilot does that make sense now?

[frank tartan]

u probably cheat if u play on pc so im good

[spare depot]

i tried to explain it better

if that helps

[patent pivot]

its just missing AI bots.
which is why im waiting on WR to come out for the game

[spare depot]

BRUH

[polar wharf]

😂

this guy

[radiant rover]

i loved battlefield 4 but i'm thoroughly enjoying 2042

[spare depot]

they'll probs mod it only once EA shuts down the game 😭

[patent pivot]

and?

[tawny carbon]

controller is handicapped with Aim Assist, whats the difference

[cedar spire]

BF4 is BF peak in history but is outdated and i prefer 2042 movement and shooting

[patent pivot]

WR will have their own servers

that doesnt make the game useless

[patent pivot]

oudtated?? boy

[spare depot]

BF4 looks like a modern day shooter

[patent pivot]

I find 3 to be somewhat outdated

than 4 lmao

[cedar spire]

Modern XD nah

[spare depot]

also, isnt it set in 2021

[tawny carbon]

same'

[ivory canopy]

BF3 has too much blue

[spare depot]

BF3 is shutting down, isnt it?

[patent pivot]

VU does remove the filter

[patent pivot]

still up. BUt VU has its own servers

[ivory canopy]

The UI is blue, everything you look at has a blue tinge

[cedar spire]

i playing BF since BF 2 and for me BF 4 is outdated if we talking about shooting.

[ivory canopy]

It's hard on the eyes

[frank tartan]

aimbot on pc vs aim assist on xbox, aimbot is 1000x more powerful

[spare depot]

ah ok

[patent pivot]

I agree with the HUD not scaling to high resolution

[spare depot]

i had BF2, BF4, and Hardline

never played 3, 1, or V

[patent pivot]

that shit is wack

[tawny carbon]

console have xim. whats the difference

[spare depot]

i still get on BF4 from time to time

[cedar spire]

Overall BF4 still is the best but shooting is big mess

[radiant rover]

idc what anybody says hardline was good

[spare depot]

also it's nice playing against other keyboard/mouse players instead of cross-platform from time to time

[polar wharf]

u can use xim even on pc sadly

[patent pivot]

at least hardline felt like a BF game than 2042

[spare depot]

i feel bad beating up on console players in 2042

😦

[tawny carbon]

and whats the difference still?

[spare depot]

very true and the weapon customization was sweet in that game

[radiant rover]

2042 doesn't? are we talking about the same game here?

[patent pivot]

open your eyes again

[frank tartan]

xim lets u use keyboard and mouse on xbox it doesnt give u aimbot

[remote kiln]

hardline more a bf game?

lol

[patent pivot]

2042 aesthetic does not remotly feel like BF

[radiant rover]

theyre open mate

[remote kiln]

you are all on a revisionist history

[polar wharf]

in this game controller players are irrelevant asf cause this is all aim game but in other games people with xim on controller are op asf for example in cod or destiny 2

[patent pivot]

2042 is like 50% BF

hardline

like 75% least

[spare depot]

the gunplay in hardline was actually pretty good

other than the m16 being busted

[tawny carbon]

same with cronus. whats the difference?

[remote kiln]

hardline literally exists for gimmicky features it was never a "battlefield" game

[radiant rover]

and the rpg's

[spare depot]

also the game felt so smooth

[frank tartan]

cronus is cheats, xim is a keybosrd and mouse adapter they are completely different

[spare depot]

lol vehicles were just deathtraps

[remote kiln]

no battlefield is extract and steal cash from a bank

[radiant rover]

yeah lol

[tawny carbon]

they still both give you an unfair advantage either why.

[remote kiln]

it's so much a battlefield game, that DICE didn't even make hardline

like how do you all forget that

[cyan lake]

At least its fun to fight the bots on your own or with some friends ^-^

[remote kiln]

ignore what folk here say they don't have a clue what they're talking about more often than not

[frank tartan]

no cronus is straight up aimbot which is insanely powerful xim just gives u the advantage of keyboard and mouse precision but if u suck at keyboard and mouse then u will still suck using a xim but cronus requires no skill because it is literal aimbot

[spare depot]

bro is speaking a foreign language

[pine roost]

So

[spare depot]

oh boy

here we go again

[pine roost]

Very active chat tonight

[short forum]

how do you guys change the impact marker for helicopters from a O to an X?

[cyan lake]

I'm just wishing to spread how honestly fun the bots are in 2042. More multiplayer games need to have AI in them so we don't always have to play people all the time :3

[remote kiln]

it's not possible iirc

I'm pretty sure it's not anyways

[short forum]

it is

[spare depot]

i only play this game to be better than other people at it

aka competition

[remote kiln]

I've not seen it changed to an x if you mean the actual impact marker on helis

and not the crosshair

[spare depot]

any multiplayer shooter, really

[remote kiln]

if it's the crosshair it can be done

[frank tartan]

do you think thats fun

[patent pivot]

tbh with you mate

[pine roost]

I do recall when they changed the crosshair colour there being mention of changing it to an x

[patent pivot]

the bots and the flexibility in this game

is kind of trash

[pine roost]

Haven’t bothered to check myself but I’m 75% sure

[spare depot]

yes, in bf4 if i was on a team that was all-capping the other team, i would switch to make it more even

[tawny carbon]

they both have an unfair advantage either way. mnk on console in controller lobbies is considered cheating. cheats in general is still cheating using cronus or not. pc and console is on the same ground for cheating. pc is easier to cheat on than console. but yet a bigger % is still on console due to the ease of use and access and less likely to get banned. there is no difference of which one is better.

[spare depot]

cant do that in 2042 sadly

[remote kiln]

the impact marker isn't the crosshair remember they're distinct

[cyan lake]

I get that but I just don't wish to do it all the time ;P

[frank tartan]

then u only play the game for fun : )

[spare depot]

yes unless my friends were playing...theyve all quit now

[pine roost]

I’ll have a double check tomorrow to see which way round it is

[polar wharf]

because the skill gap in 2042 doesnt exist u can be 500 times better than anyone it doesnt matter ur gonna lose

[cyan lake]

They are but they make the game fun honestly :3
I've always waited for a BF game to do that eventually

[spare depot]

sure that's fine 🙂

[patent pivot]

just go try bf3 VU

[frank tartan]

yes there is u cant use aimbot in console on pc you can aimbot is 1000x more powerful than aim assist on console. u cant hack on console on pc you can

[patent pivot]

i think they are somewhat better than 2042

[remote kiln]

the bots in this game are self learning unlike other games which is why they probably feel better

[spare depot]

specialists make it weird too

[tawny carbon]

aim assist is legit aimbot. there is no difference

[cyan lake]

Nah. This game is fun to me. I like many of the characters too :3

[patent pivot]

well I hate specialiist

they dont belong in BF

[polar wharf]

yea but they are unbalanced asf legit 3 out of like what 12 are viable xd

[spare depot]

exactly

in thsi game it would be even better if you could switch to the losing team/assist

[pine roost]

Mouse new

[cyan lake]

Its why I wish to find people who would like to play against the bots and just play on all the different maps, modes and difficulties

[frank tartan]

lookup a youtube video of aim assist vs aimbot you clearly have no idea what your talking about aimbot goes through walls and insta finds your next target and insta locks onto the head while aim assist is just a pathfinding tool that gives console players a edge when aiming because they have less precision than pc

[spare depot]

the reason i do it is because playing against people better than me, or against multiple people around my level makes me better

[patent pivot]

2042 did it okay, not perfect

cant even switch team

[spare depot]

aim assist is necessary for controller players

i say this as a kbm player

totally not fair for them without it

we move around teh map so much better than them

[pine roost]

Tho I’d be interested in seeing what happens if gyro becomes more normalised

[spare depot]

did you see that clip on reddit of the gyro dude?

he has aim assist off

[pine roost]

Nope

[remote kiln]

there's a big con with bot servers and it's that they run on 20hz unlike 45 with the main game so it becomes laggy very often, you may able to find some on LFG though, I've seen a few folk in here say they prefer it

[tawny carbon]

i do know what im talking about. there is no legit difference between the both. one is legit and free to everyone on controller and another one is a tool. imma move on from this topic.

[spare depot]

he was hitting some nice shots on controller

[cyan lake]

Yeah, its okay. Not saying its '#1' but its one PvP focused game that is having an option to play against bots in it and slowly learn and earn stuff in the game 😛

[pine roost]

But if someone is using gyro I have no complaints

[patent pivot]

which is why im excited for WR BF4

and you can check it out

[pine roost]

Because that’s an actual physical skill rather than a 0ms response time bot

[spare depot]

aim assist doesnt snap onto targets in this game iirc, it just slows aim near them

[tawny carbon]

there is a person uses gyro on 2042

[spare depot]

COD has an extremely strong rotational aim assist for when you move your left stick while aiming

that does snap

[pine roost]

Tbf mouse works more consistently in that, and any other game, compared to 2042

[spare depot]

2042 doesnt have that afaik

[polar wharf]

thats legal aimbot there

[pine roost]

Unfortunately I am aware

[cyan lake]

Well I played with people earlier and we just played bots. They all loved it and enjoyed the challenge they brought to the game and we just had fun :3

[spare depot]

yup yup

[pine roost]

So I stay away from it. Alongside other reasons too

[polar wharf]

cod nowdays is the most unskilled game just hop on a controller and ur good lmao

delusional rly

[remote kiln]

there are portal servers which are exclusively bot servers I recommend you go to those to adjust to the higher tick rate in the base game

[spare depot]

only reason i play COD is because i enjoy ranked competitive play and the weapon customization available

[pine roost]

Weapon customisation seemed kinda pointless when everything just kills ads and strafe speed

[frank tartan]

jesus you have to be trolling there is a huge difference between aim assist and aimbot google is literally free u can see for yourself

[pine roost]

Sorry, I’ve been ignoring your messages for a few minutes, what are you on about now?

Bhops?

[cyan lake]

Nah, I just rather play games with people, play my single player games or just enjoy playing against the bots in many kinds of games ^-^

[polar wharf]

ur not getting his point aim assist is legalized aimbot cause it slowly tracks people for you lol but yes u cant compare it to real hacks like 1ms aimbot triggerbot lol

[remote kiln]

you can do that with portal servers, you can make them private with you and a few other folk if you want, it's just a lot more responsive than solo mode, not different from it though

[tawny carbon]

how am i trolling. they both perform the same either way. one is LEGAL another one is not legal due to it being a toll that is being ejected.

[frank tartan]

https://www.ncesc.com/gaming-pedia/what-is-the-difference-between-aim-assist-and-aimbot/

there u go^

[tawny carbon]

they are exactly the same

only difference is what i just told you

[frank tartan]

look at that article it explains it

jesus you are brain dead

nice troll

[remote kiln]

hostile chat tonight

[tawny carbon]

im not brain dead

[frank tartan]

what?

yes you are

[pine roost]

I’m enjoying it

Niki is just going with the flow

[polar wharf]

clueless people are funny

[frank tartan]

aimbot literally locks onto peoples heads and hops target to target it aims for u aim assist helps console players by SOFT locking and slowing down their sensitivity when they hover over a player

[tawny carbon]

hurb dont understand aim assist and aimbot is the same. one is legal due to help out controllers. other one is a toll that is illegal because it injects

[rustic pollen]

Aimbot moves towards the enemy when not looking at them but aim assist only works when looking at an enemy. But theres zoom snap so its very forgiving

[frank tartan]

alright your just trolling at this point

[polar wharf]

now we are talking

[tawny carbon]

how?

[polar wharf]

niki is him

[frank tartan]

because there is ethier a language barrier or you have the mental capacity of a rock

[tawny carbon]

you just cant wrap your head around it

[polar wharf]

funny how a console player is triyng to convince a pc player what aimbot is

[frank tartan]

i also have a pc

[polar wharf]

i knew this server was worth to join

[frank tartan]

i just only play cs in jt

[next onyx]

Console aim assist traditionally isn't aimbot.

I understand however how bad it can be.

[frank tartan]

ty anime pfp

[remote kiln]

@tawny carbon you are partially correct but you're wrong with this

[next onyx]

Cods and I believe apex's is horrid.

[tawny carbon]

explain

plz

[pine roost]

Apex is a bit too much at times

[frank tartan]

yeah cod is basically aimbot

[rustic pollen]

Apex is fine it has no zoom snap unlike cod

[next onyx]

That's when the game plays itself for you. Battlefields is much different due to how it's done.

God. Fuck zoom snap.

[pine roost]

It’s not the zoom that’s the issue with it

No way

[rustic pollen]

Damn

[pine roost]

Well there you have it

Conversation closed

[polar wharf]

niki speaking facts here

keep going bro

[pine roost]

What about ~aim

[spare depot]

@remote kiln hello

sorry for being mean earlier

[remote kiln]

AA values in games aren't the same across each other in regards to soft locking or using rotational aim assist, 2042's is much less severe than others like cod or apex which those are actual aimbot, apex has a 40% out of 100 tracking value for pc and 60% for console, 2042 only uses training on target though, not tracking the target, so if the user moves it will not continue tracking unless they realign the ADS trigger, it's a different form of mechanism for implementation

[spare depot]

it was a casual discussion i made too toxic

[remote kiln]

you're g

[next onyx]

You're good dude.

[spare depot]

🤝

[next onyx]

The best way I can describe battlefield aim assist is that it lends you a helping hand. It will push you in the right direction but it won't play the game for you.

Differing values with various intensities.

[pine roost]

Thankfully

[remote kiln]

you can definitely make it do that, just in the older games

[polar wharf]

ahahahaha

[remote kiln]

aim assist in 3 and 4 are actual wall hacks

[rustic pollen]

Sometimes the 2042 aim assist tracks enemies when they move behind walls

[next onyx]

I'm mostly speaking round bf5 which had the best aim assist.

[tawny carbon]

i understand but aim assist can be as strong as aimbot. battlefield aim assist i know isnt as strong compared other shooters like cod/apex

[polar wharf]

ill try bro

[pine roost]

Soar into the sunset

I feel so motivated

[remote kiln]

yes it can be, that's why xim is used because they get to use AA and use kbm aswell on console by spoofing inputs, you need to be specific with what you're using game wise though, the per game implementation is critical

[pine roost]

Almost makes me want to sleep so I’m awake enough for work tomorrow

[tawny carbon]

yes

[spare depot]

it's amazing how different the BF4 kbm vs console gameplay is, but in 2042 theyre together

[next onyx]

Sleep you fool.

I wouldn't dare play roller on bf4 considering how bad the deadzones are.

[polar wharf]

shh dont type

[remote kiln]

fun fact aim assist applies on vehicles for 3 on console

[spare depot]

i see clips from bf4 on console and the aiming/movement is wild

[remote kiln]

not many are aware

[polar wharf]

tell me more about the secret niki

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I believe vehicles in bf5 get aim assist?

Which is weird.

[rustic pollen]

I tried the old battlefield games on console but they look super blurry but on the pc gameplay I see on youtube they look very good

[next onyx]

Since I've never felt it.

[remote kiln]

not sure about 5 specifically

[next onyx]

Fun fact.

They added zoom snap in 5.2 bf5 and they even gave vehicles zoom snap.

[remote kiln]

you can just set the deadzones triggers to 0 in 3 on console and the vehicle target will begin snapping to targets behind walls etc it's obscene and hilarious

same for infantry

[rustic pollen]

Bf5 aim is super easy

[next onyx]

Zoom snap has no reason being that strong.

I wouldn't mind it if it was weak.

[remote kiln]

it's not zoom snap that's the worst part

it's just the crosshair trigger

(yes it works in third person)

[next onyx]

Angle of snap.

Yeah I'm aware.

[rustic pollen]

Cod zoom snap feels almost like gta5

[pine roost]

https://tenor.com/view/no-sonny-i-robot-gif-23790834

[rustic pollen]

Portal

[pine roost]

You can

[rustic pollen]

💀

[remote kiln]

they don't have a radius max in 3 either it's shown its age

[pine roost]

All those servers are made by players

[rustic pollen]

You can make a persistent server

[pine roost]

Make your own and start your dream server

Be the admin you’ve always wanted to be

[rustic pollen]

Nobody will play it but its possible

[next onyx]

Truly. I think if you wanted to complain about aa in battlefield. Complain about zoom snap. The recent improvements have gone a very long way though.

[remote kiln]

still wish you could glitch thermals to the third person camera like you could on 3

oh well

[pine roost]

Sh, don’t crush their dreams like that

[remote kiln]

the third person camera glitch was also funny

[pine roost]

https://portal.battlefield.com Have fun

[rustic pollen]

Lol I stopped tryna make experiences that require real players

[pine roost]

I tried a dogfighting one and it was so miserable

[remote kiln]

more people seem to have a problem with the word specialists than actual game mechanics in this franchise

[next onyx]

Does anyone understand what's being said.

[pine roost]

Got one person on the other side, someone else joined mine, it was fun for a while acting as a target dummy to let this other pilot learn

But then he left, leaving us two on the same side

[polar wharf]

let him be he's a free soul

[kindred flint]

lmao my game bugged and wouldnt let me heal..

[next onyx]

Proves how dumb the community is.

[tawny carbon]

tbh specialists in the current class system is really good ngl

[pine roost]

And since no team switch…. We were scuppered

[next onyx]

Oh no I'm letting them go I'm just questioning like wot.

[remote kiln]

did you see what they were saying 10 minutes ago? that hardline is more a battlefield game than 2042 lmao

[next onyx]

Also funky cockatoo.

[tawny carbon]

ewww team switch

[next onyx]

Eh more or less.

[pine roost]

True dat

Falck or Zain

[next onyx]

Hardlines issue was that it wasn't a military shooter in most of peoples eyes and that its gun balance was whack.

[rustic pollen]

The specialists would be better if they had progression and customisibility in the form of perks or somethimg

[pine roost]

Mackay if height

[polar wharf]

now i gotta give a point to niki

sundance op in 2 maps rest is garb

[remote kiln]

it wasn't even made by DICE either

they're literally saying the non DICE game is more a battlefield one than the one made by them

[polar wharf]

niki who tf dies to fall dmg in 2042

[pine roost]

And given how 2042 plays now I don’t see how you can not say it feels like a battlefield game

[junior galleon]

tbf, dice 10 years ago is also pretty different from dice today

[next onyx]

Finally the only thing you said making some semblance of sense.

But sundance isn't even that powerful.

[pine roost]

You’ve got people shouting, maps have all the debris and whatnot people ask for, there’s explosions everywhere, all the things people seem to say battlefield is all about

[next onyx]

Just lots of horizontal speed.

[torpid wadi]

The hoes just weren’t ready for it

[polar wharf]

honestly the real issues are the maps ngl

most of them are so bad

[kindred flint]

well thats enough of that match too many fucking cancerous mackays roof top jumping

[remote kiln]

yeah but it was visceral who made hardline and they said themselves it wasn't supposed to be taken as a "continuity game" in the franchise when it came out but apparently that's more a battlefield game than the 2020+ one

just pure cope argument

[next onyx]

I can get more with zain than with sundance.

[rustic pollen]

Theyre so boring

[next onyx]

Reclaimed orbital and breakaway are the only ones I've found consistently enjoyable.

[pine roost]

Either you have a chance of getting a kill with the nade, dependent on whether they run or not, or you guarantee a kill cause it’s it the damn XM

[polar wharf]

depends on the gamemode tbh i only play breaktrough

more frenetic

[remote kiln]

xm is buggy half the time tbh it's not guaranteed

[next onyx]

Ah fair.

Bt on those maps aren't bad either.

[ivory canopy]

XM is quite buggy

[rustic pollen]

And they reuse models everywhere every map looks the same with a different shade of grass

[ivory canopy]

Plus, Irish

[next onyx]

Conquest 128 on orbital and breakaway I love.

[polar wharf]

ye true but the kills per minute in that gamemode makes me want to sleep sometimes xd

[ivory canopy]

I'm leading my team in kills in TDM, using a gun I consider to be crap

[next onyx]

I dunno how I deal with conquest to be honest.

[polar wharf]

unless u play on vehicles

[remote kiln]

you think that wants to make you sleep wait till you play breakthrough redacted

[next onyx]

I guess I just learn to stick it out.

[patent pivot]

Zavod night

[pine roost]

The only annoyance I’ve experienced so far comes from it trying to latch on to objectives in the way of what I actually want to target, which sure is a positioning issue on my part but tiny stuff tends to get in the way

[polar wharf]

huh iv seen it once never bothered to play what was it about?

[remote kiln]

the worst breakthrough map in the game tldr

[next onyx]

Defenders bias sector 1.

[remote kiln]

you will understand on your first game

[rustic pollen]

redacted is the bf4 inspired snow map right

[pine roost]

That’s reclaimed

[remote kiln]

it disappears through objects half the time and it's velocity is miscalculated, doesn't happen often but is annoying

[next onyx]

Is it bad I've got 5000 kills with the xm370.

[rustic pollen]

I keep forgetting the names

[polar wharf]

aaa sorry im from italy so i couldnt translate the map name into english

[next onyx]

Ohhh

Season 6 map basically.

[polar wharf]

but yea i had to sweat a lot as an attacker to win some games there

[pine roost]

If you have to ask ‘is it bad’, it’s bad

[remote kiln]

reclaimed > redacted at least you can actually finish the match

[next onyx]

Hehe dom dom dom.

[polar wharf]

like defense sided map imagine having 32 people holding 3 angles

[patent pivot]

Redacted but it's without no second floor levels

[polar wharf]

balanced 🙂

[patent pivot]

No exterior

Nothing

Oh and no destructible walls

[remote kiln]

I will never forgive dice for that shit design of a sector implementation

[pine roost]

Where did the dom dom dom come from

[remote kiln]

just lazy and clearly wasn't given any attention

[ivory canopy]

Thank you!

[polar wharf]

i mean the latest map as well i dont want to be toxic but holy its real bad

[ivory canopy]

They gave up on sector based objectives pretty quick

[polar wharf]

spawns are shi and attack sided map

[remote kiln]

if I needed to guess it's cause BT won't be in the next game

but redacted is another level of moronic

[polar wharf]

sparhead my fav

[pine roost]

Conquest redacted is still rather fun at least

[remote kiln]

CQ redacted is excellent

[pine roost]

Gave up on breakthrough immediately

[remote kiln]

breakthrough, utterly horrible

it's so sad aswell it could be so easily fixed

[rustic pollen]

Redacted 128p 💀

[pine roost]

There’s a perfect balance of the choke point fights as well as more small squad fights in more dynamic spaces

[remote kiln]

like redacted is near perfect for a breakthrough design but they went with this sloth mess

[pine roost]

Hence why they’ve brought them down to 64 again

[remote kiln]

128 is dead it's not coming back

[ivory canopy]

Yeah tbh EA DICE pretty much gave up on 128p

[remote kiln]

they haven't since the game came out better to cut losses on a vanity feature which can't work well

[ivory canopy]

The S5-7 maps aren't in 128p form

[remote kiln]

it was always a marketing stunt it was stupid to do from when the game was announced

they done the right thing getting rid of it

[rustic pollen]

With so many players your personal performance doesnt mean shit you will barely make a difference in the match

[pine roost]

This right here

We weren’t going big enough

That’s the problem

[polar wharf]

i think that there is no comunication between comunity and devs after a lomg time they rly dont know what to go for

[remote kiln]

that's not the problem

it's that it's impossible to balance a map around

[pine roost]

There has been boat loads of player communication

[polar wharf]

did it really matter in the end?

[pine roost]

I know at first glance it may not look like it, but having been here since launch others can vouch that they have done A LOT with the community

[rustic pollen]

Yea the map design shows that

[remote kiln]

they're talking about when the game was announced

not now

[rustic pollen]

You bought the game and thats your own choice

[pine roost]

Ah, I see.
Well I can’t really imagine there’s room for much communication outside of closed playtests and alphas given ndas and all

[polar wharf]

no but like lets take for example the new visual recoil

please

tell me who asked for that

[remote kiln]

a lot have

[pine roost]

Lots of people at launch, and many here throughout the years

[polar wharf]

i swear iv been around for a long time and not even once iv heard streamers say that

[remote kiln]

people have been saying for ages the guns in 2042 all feel the same and there's nothing separating them

[pine roost]

It’s been a consistent complaint that guns lack ‘weight’, so 2 years later they try to amend that

[polar wharf]

at least above average people never mentioned tha

[remote kiln]

so they done this to address it

[remote kiln]

hi

I have

[rustic pollen]

I played the playtest and it was such a mess. So many geometry glitches that covered the screen.

[pine roost]

Although I’m glad they didn’t take it to cod levels

I honestly prefer the old version, I didn’t have much of a complaint with it, but still

[remote kiln]

Kalo has the good idea on what to do with it that's what matters

[polar wharf]

thats my opinion but on some of the guns its horrible

[remote kiln]

his archetype idea is a very good idea on execution

[atomic nymph]

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard

[remote kiln]

it's true lol idk what to tell you

[pine roost]

There are definitely some outliers being tweaked

Kat came here the other day to ask about how people felt

[deft tinsel]

my god man, bf players are the most thankless idiots i've ever seen - you spend a whole round fighting off helis and they call you shit for not having 69 kills

[remote kiln]

just hide the chat

[polar wharf]

i hope so pp 29 is my most used gun and its feels so ass beaming people from long distances

i get its an smg ofc but the overall feeling is bad

[pine roost]

Could just get a monitor crosshair on and ignore it entierly

[remote kiln]

^

the optimal path

[polar wharf]

why would i do that tho xd

[pine roost]

Well it fixes your issue

[remote kiln]

why would you not?

[polar wharf]

i just hate how the crosshair bounces up and down honestly

[remote kiln]

then use a monitor crosshair lol

[pine roost]

Problem solved

[remote kiln]

?

what

[rustic pollen]

What

[pine roost]

Don’t even

Just let them be

[polar wharf]

yes but if the crosshair is bouncing at that peace arent the bullets going to narnia at some points? like did they add a bloom variant to this visual recoil thingy?

[rustic pollen]

1 blocked message

[deft tinsel]

it's only visual zawg

[remote kiln]

no that is just visual

your bullets are still coming out the centre of the screen

[deft tinsel]

it's bouncing cuz dice decided why not, no one asked for it but there you go

[pine roost]

Bloom’s always been a thing, these changes did not come with any changes to the mechanics behind recoil. The sight shake has no bearing on where the bullet goes

[polar wharf]

ty for clarification

[pine roost]

It’s simply - vertical recoil is a set degree gain, horizontal recoil is random based on extreme left and right values, and guns gain spread as you shoot. So bursting is optimal for range

[remote kiln]

when the recoil bug is fixed

right now.. it's not so much

[deft tinsel]

just close your eyes and pray

with some of the weapons, not much else is needed

[pine roost]

One day…

One day we will be rid of recoil bugs for good

[deft tinsel]

maybe next battlefield

[pine roost]

The day flight assist gets fixed lol

[polar wharf]

at least hit reg in this update feels way nicer

not all of the time

but they did some work there

[rustic pollen]

After gta6 and ww3

[deft tinsel]

how is dice fumbling this franchise so hard, is it really that difficult to do what you've already done several times before

[pine roost]

Come listen to me,
I’ll sing you a song of the fish in the sea

[deft tinsel]

next one already seems like a dumpsterfire

[pine roost]

And it's windy weather, boys, stormy weather, boys
When the wind blows, we're all together, boys

Had to, I’m sorry

[polar wharf]

honestly idk its hard to mantain some balance between good players and less than average people ngl

[pine roost]

It’s in the game

[polar wharf]

gsync adds inpunt lage niki its ass

its just the mouse input in that feels ass

[remote kiln]

it doesnt

[polar wharf]

its been a problem since forever

[remote kiln]

gsync does not add input latency

[pine roost]

Much better than launch state though

It felt abhorrent back then

[polar wharf]

ye true its better but still

we are half way there

[pine roost]

Sometime around the spearhead season it started feeling better

[deft tinsel]

what's the meta for season 7 so i can be a sweatlord

peepee 29?

[polar wharf]

same meta as usual scorpion is busted af

[pine roost]

Today alone I had two moments where it just chose to snap to the side while making a slight incline, so yeah it’s still not ideal

[polar wharf]

dropped 130 kills on my 1st match with that lmao

[deft tinsel]

i heard the peepee is still better than scorpion

[pine roost]

And micro adjustments when firing with some guns still feel sticky

[polar wharf]

huh close range nah

mid to long yes pp better

[deft tinsel]

interesting

[rustic pollen]

Damn you wanna know what I usually get

15

[deft tinsel]

what's the non smg meta?

[pine roost]

Emotional damage

[polar wharf]

anything aside pp 29 scorpion and maybe pbx

[polar wharf]

huh yea im a sweatlord im not proud of that

[deft tinsel]

i heard they accidentally brought the old vhx back lmao

[remote kiln]

pbx is strictly better than the scorpion

[rustic pollen]

I cant even get that when sweating against bots

[polar wharf]

???????????

in what universe

[remote kiln]

it's ttk is higher it will always outgun the scorpion

[pine roost]

Robots

Oh yeah it’s all very advanced stuff

[polar wharf]

idk i feel pbx bullet travel time is slow asf

[rustic pollen]

They behave the same as call of duty bots

[polar wharf]

it rly doesnt feel good at least for me

[remote kiln]

yes it's slower but it deals 28 damage per bullet

so it's higher than the scorpion

it will outgun it at any distance

[polar wharf]

might be higher but scrorpion has way more fire rate

[ivory canopy]

Gonna be honest. I'm doing far better with the SVD than I have any right of doing

[remote kiln]

the fire rate doesn't matter it has too much drop-off at distance

[pine roost]

Btw deco you mentioned earlier how the bots here use active machine learning, is that in relation to them changing difficulty dynamically based on performance or does it use that old SEED tech they showcased back with bf1?

[polar wharf]

im talking about close range

[remote kiln]

unless you're <10m away it will lose

[polar wharf]

ye well nah not 10 but more like 15 to 20

[pine roost]

I know they use it now for playtesting games based on various articles theyve published, but I assumed they didn’t use it for this ai system

[remote kiln]

self learning = related to adapting their behaviour as and when player behaviour changes for maps

[pine roost]

Gotcha

[remote kiln]

the latter tldr

[rustic pollen]

The bots can aim as good as they want but they still run out in the open like dumbasses

[remote kiln]

the one in battlefield 1 is different in that they are learning from each others bots

the bots in 2042, are learning from players

[pine roost]

Yeah I was gonna say, I knew about them learning from players but I was under the impression initially from what you said that they’d learn from past lives or other bots dynamically too

[rustic pollen]

Who are you talking to

[polar wharf]

oh btw idk if any bf mods are here but there is a known cheater called acrhook

[spare quest]

[pine roost]

Can’t do much about that here

And name calling people is also against the rules

So just report them and hope for the best

[rustic pollen]

Do yall think season 7 is the last season

[pine roost]

Given how at one point we thought season 3 would be the last, who knows

[remote kiln]

yes they sort of, do that, it uses what's called reinforcement learning where the agent bot will attempt to guesstimate the highest probable action which will result in a reward, to bots and other players, the behaviour of the bots is driven by what players to do (what routes to take, where to engage etc), they adjust their actions to be efficient with the probable outcome (to win), so if they die or lose the agent tries to adjust accordingly, this is all highly variable though, so you won't see this behaviour in the bots themselves as there's a lot governing the inputs for the output

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-ok-good-alright-glasses-gif-12592499

[remote kiln]

what's secondary to that is they are continuously also adapting to how the player information updates

so it's essentially a highly sophisticated, self adapting bot in short

[pine roost]

In all honesty I just assumed they’d up the accuracy and awareness of bots based on kd

[remote kiln]

nah it's a lot, lot more in depth than that

[pine roost]

Coolio

Clef would love to hear all this

[remote kiln]

the heatmaps for maps are the primary data point they use to gauge where to go for objectives etc, and that's just one data point

you can see where this goes when you're factoring in how to govern bot actions with everything else

[rustic pollen]

Lol sure theyre advanced but they dumb as hell

[remote kiln]

I've read some of SEEDs releases in regards to neural network implementation its a very sophisticated piece of tech they made

ahead of its time for sure

[junior galleon]

season 8

[pine roost]

All I’ve done is read a few articles to see what they were up to a couple years back. Felt like they kind of vanished after that bf1 showcase

But that’s of course because I wasn’t looking in the right places

[rustic pollen]

Battlefield: Big Chaos

Bbc

[pine roost]

Then with bots here I thought maybe they took parts from it

[remote kiln]

nah far from it, the SEED stuff was and is always hidden when used in games, it's just never actively talked about a lot

most people aren't even aware SEED existed

[rustic pollen]

Games never show off all the technologies they use

[pine roost]

Yeah, last I heard I believe it’s mostly used now for efficient playtesting of map geometry and general map flow

[rustic pollen]

At most they show the engine

[remote kiln]

it was shown by dice

just wasn't talked about that's all

[rustic pollen]

I meant ingame

[pine roost]

Although we saw a fair bit in their recent GDC talk

[remote kiln]

yeah I mean, SEEDs work is done in multi year phases, there haven't been that much by EA that could be used realistically which is groundbreaking like say neural network bots

it was a co development by DICE and seed though so, depends on the studio wanting to use it

[polar wharf]

Im free

10min timeout 😦

[pine roost]

Oh did you succumb to the mute

[polar wharf]

Yea ahahaha

[pine roost]

Warned you too late

[polar wharf]

Cause i said the r word xd

[pine roost]

Oh that I wasn’t aware of

[rustic pollen]

Hopefully the next bf will have better music cuz 2042s music hurts my ears

[pine roost]

I thought it was about the other thing

But nvm

[spare quest]

you

[remote kiln]

you can change the music pack in the settings to older seasons if you want

[polar wharf]

No it was my fault i Just cringe go cheaters

[rustic pollen]

Only older seasons

[polar wharf]

To*

[remote kiln]

oh typo sry

[pine roost]

Alternatively, put the other game music on Spotify

Not the same pacing but still fun to listen to

[junior galleon]

stop dickriding bf1

[remote kiln]

battlefield 1 did have streaming textures..

lol

it did

[rustic pollen]

Bf1 has good aesthetics but I hate the gunplay. I am trying to like it but I can't

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-meme-reaction-emoji-nops-gif-15657180555152423963

[remote kiln]

streaming textures isn't a exclusive dx12 feature you know this yes

[spare quest]

skill issue

[remote kiln]

it is in dx11 too

..?

[spare quest]

what is even the difference between dx 11 and 12

[polar wharf]

They improved performance in the latest update btw?

[pine roost]

I sympathise. General infantry gameplay isn’t too engaging, but it looks good.

Which was really the whole reason it sold well

[spare quest]

in 2042? it got worse on pc afaik

[remote kiln]

??

you are making up stuff lol

[pine roost]

You’re treading uneven ground trying to argue with deco about technical stuff

[spare quest]

its still fine for me

[remote kiln]

it does not lock threads wtf are you talking about

[polar wharf]

Weird i feel my frames are way more stable somehow xd

[remote kiln]

yes that's not locking threads dude

you know what happens if it tries to lock threads?

the game crashes

[lusty cliff]

Can someone explain weapon accuracy vs recoil control pls

[remote kiln]

do you know what locking threads is?

..?

and?

[pine roost]

Accuracy = spread. Recoil = movement of screen centre vertically and horizontally

[spare quest]

the user.cfg doesn't work in 2042 right?

[lusty cliff]

So the recoil is strictly the guns visuals, accuracy is where the bullets land?

[remote kiln]

no lol

that's not what locking threads is

no..

you don't understand anything clearly

[midnight mesa]

Yup

[remote kiln]

the game does not schedule threads, infact it's not handled whatsoever by the game

[pine roost]

Higher accuracy values tightening the cone of how far a bullet can veer off of screen centre, recoil essentially just controls how much the camera rotates

[remote kiln]

it's done by the operating system

stop making up stuff you look silly

??

[midnight mesa]

Can still beam people across the map

[remote kiln]

windows doesn't schedule thread allocations?

they are dynamic dude

it scales

it's not static

you don't understand thread assignments stop making up stuff pls

furthermore, this is battlefield 1, using dynamic texture streaming

variable shaders, is a dynamic texture

[pine roost]

Is that from a GDC talk too?

[remote kiln]

yes

https://www.slideshare.net/DICEStudio/4k-checkerboard-in-battlefield-1-and-mass-effect-andromeda

[pine roost]

I’ll save that for later

Got an absolute boat load tucked away

[remote kiln]

DICE do a lot of presentations, the frostbite ones are very very technical

even I get overwhelmed sometimes

[spare quest]

not in 2042 afaik

[rustic pollen]

Frostbite is a pretty impressive engine

[remote kiln]

it doesn't work he's just making up stuff

ignore him

[spare quest]

where proof

[remote kiln]

I'm sure

[junior galleon]

lol what

[remote kiln]

man's on a speed run ban

[pine roost]

I’m just keen to see stuff that can offer some useful insights for the level I’m at now

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-wave-flight-airport-airplane-gif-15625882

[remote kiln]

id caution about looking at the frostbite presentations then you will get overwhelmed, the rest are relatively understandable though

[spare quest]

huh

[pine roost]

Yeah a lot of graphical stuff is beyond me

[junior galleon]

grafical

[pine roost]

But stuff like terrain gen in their recent one is more manageable

[rustic pollen]

What

[spare quest]

nah

[pine roost]

If only we could disable anti aliasing

[remote kiln]

it would be horrid

there's this myth that TAA is a bad thing it's not true

[spare quest]

imagine not playing 2042 on lowest graphics

[tawny carbon]

lucky for me DLSS replaces AA kek

[pine roost]

I know why it’s used, I still hate the blur though

[remote kiln]

you'd need a 4090 to be able to turn off T(S)AA without crashing the game

[crimson umbra]

my guy

[lusty cliff]

Is it worth playing each classes weapon proficiency? Lmg just feels bad and ar/smg so good

[junior galleon]

only if you want

[lusty cliff]

The extra mags for assault seem big

[crimson umbra]

I stio grinding agility in oldschool runescape and people cannot behave for like 5 minutes

this level 88 aint getting itself done

[remote kiln]

joker did you get rid of him

[crimson umbra]

yes

[remote kiln]

ye I thought that wasn't a coincidence lmao

[pine roost]

Nooo

[spare quest]

bruh

[crimson umbra]

gone, Iam tired and I can't bother with trolls

like low effort shit

[tawny carbon]

kek

[remote kiln]

ye it's just boring

[pine roost]

I didn’t understand half of what he was saying anyways

Was entertaining for a good hour though

[lusty cliff]

Oh okay 🙃

[remote kiln]

he got banned apparently and that's why he was angry

the gist of what I understood

[pine roost]

Banned on another account?

[spare quest]

was he bri'ish

[remote kiln]

unsure, I think yes

[rustic pollen]

It felt like he spoke a different language

[remote kiln]

I take it he means in-game

[pine roost]

Oh so his rantings about ‘big company’ was his way of saying he’s mad about being banned

[remote kiln]

yeah

[pine roost]

Watch it

[remote kiln]

that's why he said they "ruined his life" etc

[spare quest]

where link

[pine roost]

Envoirment

[remote kiln]

there's no link the messages got purged

[pine roost]

Was nice knowing him

Anyways

[next onyx]

Yeah you may as well.

[remote kiln]

haha ain't no way

he sent me a friend request

easy denial

[next onyx]

The LMG prof for Engie is super good.

[lusty cliff]

Ya think so?

[rustic pollen]

He wants you to help him get unbanned I know how that goes

[pine roost]

Nah, construct a carefully thought out essay on why he’s wrong about threads

[next onyx]

If you stack it with accuracy increasing attachments like the BCG stubby grip it goes a long way.

[junior galleon]

i wouldve added him

[remote kiln]

I've definitely got influence on that I'm certain

[spare quest]

the long wayyyyy

[next onyx]

Keep in mind.

These profs are meant to give you a helping hand.

Not a helping hand.

[pine roost]

Huh

[rustic pollen]

Lol

[remote kiln]

honestly you probably won't believe me but I find tech boring to talking about the majority of the time

[next onyx]

But think of it like something that assists you.

[rustic pollen]

Im not confused Im confused

[pine roost]

After having done it as a career I can understand why

[remote kiln]

it's pretty exhausting to keep up with as your job constantly tbh

[pine roost]

Understandable

I’m just a lowly uni student looking to learn about as much as possible, so it’s all interesting to me

[frank tartan]

whats a good loadout of attachments for the SCZ

[spare quest]

yes

[remote kiln]

I think it may be because I've been doing it since I was a kid tbh

[rustic pollen]

On god niki sent me a friend request

[pine roost]

You said like one thing to him

[remote kiln]

15 years of something would bore anyone out ig

[rustic pollen]

I kinda want to mess with him

[junior galleon]

do it

[spare quest]

ok

[remote kiln]

wait

oh I understand

it was a alt discord account

[next onyx]

Arcom muzzle brake, Standard Ext, BCG Stubby and a sight of your choice. @frank tartan

[frank tartan]

thanks

[next onyx]

I used it like an ADS SMG but hipfire it does well too.

[pine roost]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[remote kiln]

way that guy that got purged you'll need to ban the alt too

[next onyx]

I dunno who is who

[remote kiln]

nikisenpai

search the name you'll see it

[pine roost]

Niki something or other

[next onyx]

Oh I see.

[frank tartan]

what do people use alt accounts for on discord?

[pine roost]

Bruh it’s the same name just with an x

[next onyx]

To mess with people.

[remote kiln]

^

[frank tartan]

thats pretty cringe lmao

[pine roost]

Big brain play

[remote kiln]

thought I recognised the name vaguely

[pine roost]

That made my day

Or rather my morning

[next onyx]

Oh they left.

Wait no.

Oh fucking discord is shit.

[pine roost]

One of the accounts got purged

Dunno bout the rest

[remote kiln]

149190081263960064 there's the id way

[rustic pollen]

He evaded a ban with an alt but used the same username💀

[remote kiln]

not a bright individual

[next onyx]

I got them.

[remote kiln]

ty

[next onyx]

Yeah considering their kind of rant they're probably brain damaged due to drugs.

[pine roost]

I think what he said about aim though has changed me

Aimbot, aim assist, aim training, all same cause aim in name

[remote kiln]

never seen that sort of reaction to being banned before

guy is defo addicted to games 100%

[pine roost]

Or talking about ones he doesn’t play

[rustic pollen]

Isnt it a strange coincidence that all words with 'aim' in them are related to aim

Bro nikis alt sent me a friend request too

[pine roost]

I feel left out :(

[next onyx]

Don't worry they didn't send me one too.

[pine roost]

Well that was an eventful few hours

I love sales

Although I’ve now been on discord for 6 hours

With work in another 6

Yippee

[worldly wolf]

good morning oomfies

what happens?

[pine roost]

Someone came in ranting about some incoherent topics

There was espionage, betrayal, mental gymnastics and someone got purged

So uh, a regular Sunday morning!

[arctic grove]

i love the g428

[worldly wolf]

damm

[rustic pollen]

Its 4 am for me I gotta go sleep rq I gotta get up before 12

[worldly wolf]

either someone who keeps ranting on yt comment or someone who's addicted to having arguments on twitter

[pine roost]

Imaging being up at 4
This post was made by GMT gang

Just realised I’m over 35k messages B)

[arctic grove]

like in the server?

if you took one second on each message you sent, it would take you almost ten hours to right them all out

[spare depot]

lol wow

[tawny carbon]

im at 25.5k kek

[spare depot]

i have 60000 in the fortnite server

what a waste of time

[tawny carbon]

no life

ayo?

[spare depot]

i mean, ive had discord since 2016 ;)

[tawny carbon]

same kek

[spare depot]

but yes, spent more time there than i should have

[cosmic dragon]

how should i get people to join my meatgrinder in portal

pause

[turbid pelican]

All guns are checked and updated, as well as my tierlist (which does consider the new visual recoil in its rating by me [of course only with my favourite sights etc. couldn't check them all...for obvious fucking reasons]) and the Loadout page as well

SRAW stats and scope glint are the next things on my to do list

[paper sentinel]

servers go down?

or was it just the match i'm in

[full lichen]

Does anyone know what the "Season 5 GPU Pack" is?
im redownloading the game rn and i havent played since s4 so idk what this is or how i got it. i cant find any info on it online

[astral forge]

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SNOWY MAP WITH THE CHURCH

[gilded goblet]

BFV map i think

Look it up bro

[astral forge]

I couldn't find it 😭

[gilded goblet]

oof

hol up

[ivory canopy]

Battle of the Bulge

Someone said that the game has team balance between TDM matches. I refuse to believe it. If it does, it sure stacked one team to shit and back.

[normal fossil]

wheres the tierlist

[normal fossil]

did you get kicked randomally from a game onto the title screen

[fickle wharf]

check his discord bio for link to the stat sheet

[normal fossil]

if so thats fixable

[normal fossil]

ty

[astral forge]

Omggg tysmmm the end of round theme is really really good that's why I wanted to know lol

[paper sentinel]

It said match ended and yes I went to the title screen.

[normal fossil]

are you on steam

[paper sentinel]

Ye

[ivory canopy]

I was in a TDM match that was so imbalanced that the match ended in like a 200-60 rout.

I was on the losing team, and I led the team in kills, with only 12

[normal fossil]

right click on bf 2042 > properties > installed files > verify the integrity of installed files

[astral forge]

Damn

[ivory canopy]

I am going to relish in the completion of the T1 for the SVD. This is by far the worst DMR in the entire game. Its long range ability is so laughable there are SMGs that can outsnipe it. I'm dead serious.

I remember it being shit at long ranges when they first released it into AOW. That certainly hasn't changed.

That said, it's quasi-decent in CQB and good between 20-60m if you know how to use it that way. 100m+, don't even bother; close the gap

But you can't be aggressive with it. If you try rushing in with the SVD you will get flushed down the toilet.

I usually try to put myself in a position where I can shoot without needing to move much. In that regard it does quite well in punishing unsuspecting pushers who don't count on your aim being good.

Note that I can't really vouch that the M39 is better/worse since I T1'd that gun long before the visual recoil changes. Sorrow describes its new visual recoil as really bad, however...

[next onyx]

M39 was great.

[ivory canopy]

So the TL;DR is: either use the SVK, or use a DMR that has automatic fire.

[next onyx]

One of the fastest killing guns in the game. Felt dumb when I got it to tier 1.

[normal fossil]

also I think the acw-r is underrated

[ivory canopy]

ACW-R is a solid gun

[normal fossil]

what do you guys think abt it

[ivory canopy]

I got the T1 on it and it's quite nice to use

[next onyx]

I got the SVD to tier 1 during hardcore and generally being a cancer patient with a 7x.

Acwr is alright.

[ivory canopy]

Bear in mind, though, I haven't touched any ARs since 7.0.0

[normal fossil]

I used to main pp 19 but it doesnt do enough dmg for me

[ivory canopy]

PP29 has always been a solid option

[normal fossil]

yeah its a laser

[next onyx]

I hate the pp29. It's just boring.

[normal fossil]

its an all rounder but its not so good at winning gunfights

[ivory canopy]

Probably outsnipes the SVD

[next onyx]

Have you tried the scar?

[astral forge]

G428 is goated