#battlefield-2042

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arctic grove
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True

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Yep I definitely don’t mean outright better, just the more “meta” guns and stuff like that

karmic egret
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damn cuz my game is always deleting some of its own files

lusty cliff
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What can I do to get this "deal damage to vehicles with primary weapon" quest done? I don't own the sfar yet

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I have AP rounds for the ak24 but after doing nothing but emptying clips on a helicopter all round I'm like 30/500 lol

lusty cliff
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Or, what's a good way to get rank ups fast? Reviving and resupplying probably?

ebon pilot
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or put C5 on a vehicle and shoot it

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it counts towards the weapon you used to detonate them

kindred flint
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ah like a USB...shooting an AT mine will always take at least 2 shots even if youre aimed right on it leo

lusty cliff
# ebon pilot lmg

Does just default lmg ammo shred or something? I'll have to try that. And I'll try the c5 shooting idea! Tyty

ebon pilot
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lmgs just have a massive ammo pool, so you can just spam enemy vehicles with armor penetrating ammo for longer

lusty cliff
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Ahh okay, ty again!

glad oyster
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every time an online game launches i get a black screen with just a chat window where a bunch of other people are also confused why there is just a black screen :S

wide shore
arctic grove
ebon pilot
arctic grove
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who has experience in testing games? give me feedback please

deft flare
royal trail
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got to join a game just as it ended, free win of the day keanu

next onyx
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Wtf is this team balance.

modern stirrup
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Is there any active easter eggs/secret unlockables currently?

arctic grove
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dude idk they did they nerfed m16a3 weapon spread

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totally shit now

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m16a3

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for mid to long range ull just have to empty ur whole mag so that ui can hit 10 bullets

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that bad weapon spread

next onyx
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Just crouch fire and burst.

fading hawk
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Man s7 is supposed to last us 122 days

wicked shell
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Sorry mate, no nerfing has been done, it's about as accurate as the GEW46 so gotta git gud

fading hawk
wicked shell
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Try a slightly higher magnification or something :P

fading hawk
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I kinda miss how dominating it was on past titles. But I suppose now we have VHX which seems to play a similar role. Very nice weapon in the right hands.

wicked shell
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I get the nostalgia 😄 But it does have super good TTK/DPS and accuracy, it can be really good below 75m or so if you can tame the recoil. I recommend the warhawk comp, bipod when possible and maybe switching to burst over 60-70m. If you bipod it and use burst you can go ham at like 120m

next onyx
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I miss pre patch m16a3.

next onyx
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With a tac comp too.

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As you kinda don't want to sacrifice its hip fire accuracy.

teal shard
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12x scope turns into 1x scope

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Makes me feel like adam sandler

indigo bay
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does anyone know a fix to this? : i just bought 2042 a couple days ago and i launched the game but my keyboard always seems to have a 5-7 second delay, however when i plugged in a controller the controller worked fine with no delay. Any way to fix the keyboard delay?

teal shard
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Yeah that happened to me

indigo bay
gilded goblet
orchid tusk
obsidian lotus
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got to say battlefiled 5 is more enojyable than 2042

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at least on console

teal shard
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Al Sundan

minor dirge
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anyone tryna farm boris turrent with me?

odd pagoda
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vehicle controls in 3nd person is buged

winged tinsel
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Still have cheaters...

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Should not have spent the money on bp

silver flare
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I read the reviews on the cheat sites and they say that ea anticheatin is very weak and ineffective.

ionic gale
next onyx
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M16 underperform hello

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It literally competed against the rm277.

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Right now it's weaker because kobra is annoying and it's its only sight.

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And the spread changes.

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But it's still solid as hell.

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The spread changes don't mean much since everything else got cucked dispersion wise.

vocal tusk
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Games will always have cheaters. Anti-cheat is not ever going to totally stop cheaters. New cheats will appear, its anti cheats job to react to those new cheats, counter them and ban the using players.

bitter mulch
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Can they update the animations tho...they feel so outdated

vocal tusk
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Context?

bitter mulch
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when you go to tac sprint and so on

arctic grove
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okay so first time playing 2042, what do guns with "elite edition" mean? do i need to buy the elite edition to use them even if i complete their respective challenges?

vital quail
vocal tusk
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Doubt they will invest in stuff like that at this stage. (Animation changes for the soldier experience)

bitter mulch
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if they did invest in visual recoil, they could do that too

vocal tusk
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They already changed them, along with the camera movement, so I doubt they will revisit

patent path
vocal tusk
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This, just buy the cheapest version

patent path
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elite version unlocks some weapons for you without the need for grinding the challenges I think

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so get it if you don't want to grind

arctic grove
arctic grove
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yeah i don't think i will, i've been spending a bit too much money lately my allowance is running dry

vocal tusk
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EA help pages state this info:

arctic grove
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also also

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what does "welcome back, no-pat" tag on weapons mean?

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i'm sort of bummed by the fact that there are some really cool looking specialist skins i'd love to own but each package is close to 20 euros... for cosmetics nonetheless

vocal tusk
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You can buy the skins separate for cheaper

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Browse all skins from collection > specialists

arctic grove
vocal tusk
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It varies for me..some are less than that.

shy vine
vocal tusk
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Ive acrued about 7k currency across the last few seasons, so ive bought a few myself

arctic grove
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oh yeah i mean legend skins are 10, epics are like 7-8 but still

next onyx
arctic grove
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is this ez-exp 50k per match lobby legit

vocal tusk
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Just play the game and enjoy it...youll ruin it for yourself by boring yourself with XP farm lobbies

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My own personal experience.

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If youre trying to unlock weapon attachments, just use Solo and co-op bot games.

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Its infinitely faster

arctic grove
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okay but i actually like to have a variety of guns which i don't right now, i think i'll try this

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i'm lvl 1

next onyx
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Honestly.

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I'm not trying to exactly encourage but if you can't be fucked just go for the xp lobby. But take heed that you need to learn the actual game if you wish to improve.

arctic grove
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i want to use more weapons i don't want to be limited to 5 weapons dude

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and with my rig being dog shit i won't be exactly happy trying to farm to these high levels, unlike with bf3 & 4 which i can easily run

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what are these reactions @orchid tusk

orchid tusk
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in that order

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dude i started this game with a 1070 so i know how you feel

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really

arctic grove
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i'm running ryzen 3 3300g with rx 550

vocal tusk
arctic grove
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waiting for the summer in case my dad buys me a new pc which i doubt

vocal tusk
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My condolences.

arctic grove
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thanks

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mostly bought the game cause i can play whenever i go to internet cafès

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idk if they're a thing outside of greece but here they're very prevalent

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i know a ton of people who don't own pcs and play various pc games in internet cafès

vocal tusk
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I think that CPU and GPU are below the minimum requirements.

arctic grove
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it's fine it's kind of a struggle but not as much as running BFV or BF1

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BFV started lagging after no lag for 8 straight hours

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like that's crazy

vocal tusk
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4 core CPUs generally have a bad time in games like these

arctic grove
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man if i never went to an internet cafè ever i'd have enough to buy me a damn pc

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if i got 10 euros as a daily allowance and saved for the entire year like did not spend a single euro then i'd have 3.6k by the end of the year and i'd have a BEAST pc by next year

orchid tusk
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5080

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in usd anyway

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so what? about the same

arctic grove
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1 match in this lobby alr lv 4

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crazy

arctic grove
orchid tusk
arctic grove
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not 5080

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3650 euros in usd is 3949

orchid tusk
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oh no i meant 5080 will be out in a year

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on laptop anyway i assume

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earlier for desk right? ibe been seein lots of heat in the press lately but maybe fall of '25 for desk and spring '26 for lap? and amd stuff around then too i guess

arctic grove
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oh alright

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no clue

orchid tusk
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i played just as well on a the creeky old 1070 really score wise lmao

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sure was ugly though and crashes and missing gfx and everything

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played like that for over a year though

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til season 4 broke it entirely

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then i had to rush for a 3070 as the 40xx were coming out...saved my self a few bucks

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best of luck...have fun

arctic grove
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aight

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i'm lv 5 now

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lol

lilac dust
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New feeeback survey is up. Scan QR in game and do it on your phone or PC. PLEASE can everyone who hates sifting through so many awful 64p conquest layouts put in the feedback box that we need a dedicated season 5-7 maps playlist if you agree 🙏

lone void
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Maybe if they just made them for 128, we could all have nice things

vocal tusk
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My feedback was a recommendation of 7...but I stated that this game needs to allow players a wider selection of maps to choose from, instead of matchmaking into a random one you probably dont want to play. As well as again asked for a server browser for official servers. Nothing will probably come of that tho.

lone void
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Server browser won't happen

lilac dust
vocal tusk
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Of course, but its still feedback that needed to be echoed.

lilac dust
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Why is portal so boring. Always the same modes. Where are the fun modes like 128 conquest on ALL NEW MAPS

lone void
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128 BT on Redacted CursedCat

next onyx
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What makes me mad is that they could easily change things up.

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Do official dice servers on portal. Have people quick match into those.

vocal tusk
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IMO, a mix of core modes with quickplay matchmaking (As we have now in AOW) and official dice servers on portals browser for all core modes (Conquest, Rush, Breakthrough and TDM) across a few different player counts is an ideal situation.

next onyx
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I kinda wish fnb lasted a little longer to be honest.

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For the sake of game mode variation.

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Weekend night battlefield.

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But double xp on Friday

obsidian spindle
next onyx
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Can you stop.

quaint vector
vocal tusk
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WTF is this bot doing?

ionic gale
vocal tusk
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Are people deliberately ignoring that you said...3 seasons ago?

next onyx
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Must be a skill issue on everyone's end if the short barrel rm shitters consistently lost fights against me and my m16. CursedCat

reef timber
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Hello everyone, can I report a cheating player here?

obsidian spindle
next onyx
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Nah this isn't the place sorry.

vocal tusk
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No, use in game reporter

ionic gale
rare dragon
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What is this JP person trying to do ?

vocal tusk
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This account is clearly a bot

lilac dust
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I highly doubt that is a real person lol

tender pendantBOT
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Rule 4: Do not bypass the filter, harass other users, disrupt voice/text channels, impersonate users, abuse spoiler tags, discuss cheats, post cheat websites/exploits, name & shame & discuss lawsuits/legal action.

vocal tusk
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That rule REALLY should be separated into a few different rules lol

next onyx
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Wait do people use symptics stats or sorrows scribbles.

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Cause those ttk values are completely different.

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What I'm based off is from sym.gg

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I know that 800 rpm 5Hk Is not 290.

reef timber
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I think we should have a channel to report cheating players, I find reporting cheating in the game seems ineffective

next onyx
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I wouldn't also speak of how the m16 is without a proper basis.

ionic gale
next onyx
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I know for a fact the m16 was extremely consistent against the rm277 during season 4.

ionic gale
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as said, personal skill does not matter

next onyx
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I'm aware.

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I could use the scar and outskill and rm user during that period.

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Doesn't mean it was better.

obsidian spindle
ionic gale
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we all did well with shit guns and we all did bad with good guns

next onyx
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One thing I know for a fact. The m16 was not bad.

obsidian spindle
next onyx
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People just saw ew portal gun and didn't bother to touch it.

quaint vector
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M16A3 is still decent for Vault Weapon, but it has been better before.. WoahTea

next onyx
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Oh yeah for sure.

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The spread changes and reassignment made its kobra sight painful to use.

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And I'm keenly waiting for a fix.

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No. Spread changes were not painful.

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But they certainly changed the gun a lot.

quaint vector
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I'm sure there was reflex sight but was removed for some reason... Hmm

next onyx
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I do believe once kobra is fixed the m16 will become relevant again.

ionic gale
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if we take a 267ms as a baseline for a decent weapon it underperforms, by 10% from a pure damage POV, the A-91 I would rate higher, because of the far superior hipfire spread. In my book this is the main issue with most non-SMG vault weapons, their hipfire is just crap, giving them anoter disadvantage beyond the pure damage at the most relevant engagement range

next onyx
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Just run the ls1 laser sight with tac comp and you're set.

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A91 has much less range.

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M16 has 60 metres to boot at least.

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That's the trade off between them.

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I don't think the m16 ever had bad hipfire considering you don't really need to run underbarrel attachments.

ionic gale
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A-91 has 40m and hence covers most of the relevant engagement ranges.

untold flower
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@robust vapor bro is rage hacking with aimbot at least and hes s064

next onyx
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More range always does well.

untold flower
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laugh_cry anticheat works fine

next onyx
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Nvm velocity and dispersion.

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Considering how this game plays with how common long sightlines are I'd rather the m16.

ionic gale
next onyx
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2042's is completely different.

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I acknowledge the maps have changed.

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However the basis for a medium range in this game is much different.

quaint vector
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indeed

ionic gale
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I can give data points for 2042 as well, but that is more subjective. I T1ed Dozer in 2.5k kills. THe T1 requirement is 1600 kills within 15m. That makes this range sit at 60ish%

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I also have about a 33% hipfire kill ratio, showing how relevant the point blank range is

lilac dust
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Haven rush chaos NEW FNB MODE Out Now

lilac dust
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Haven rush chaos is 64p btw. Its nuts

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But holy fuck dice. If you can do 64p rush modes you can do 128 conquest for these maps

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FNB is allergic to 128 I swear

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Even though 64p rush is more chaotic than 128 conquest on the same map they just dont get it

vocal pollen
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No way, I have an AI in my match called K. Middleton lol

viscid bone
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How y'all doing?

pine roost
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working on some frustrating computing coursework unfortunately

arctic grove
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could anybody tell me who recon is and why he has stuff dedicated to him? did he die or something?

spare quest
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yes Sadge

arctic grove
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my condolences

dusky ibex
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guys pls join conquest 64 on oceania servers. theres like nearly no one

arctic grove
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i won't refund 2042 as per my personal policy but i gotta say it runs like shit, just like i expected, on my ass rig

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gonna have to play in an internet cafè or with bots i guess

remote kiln
arctic grove
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doesn't help

modern stirrup
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Any tips for getting the 3000 damage repaired in single game achievement?

quaint vector
patent path
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g36 does pretty well with long barrel and standard ammo

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not a ttk meta gun but it just feels nice to use

plucky chasm
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is it double xp atm

dusty sparrow
plucky chasm
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they should make it faster

quaint vector
plucky chasm
patent path
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it's always double xp if you play twice as much

quaint vector
dusty sparrow
plucky chasm
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stadium release date

dusty sparrow
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or grind weapoins

quaint vector
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3 weekends without Double XP.... OOF

dusty sparrow
plucky chasm
patent path
next onyx
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G36 is generally is really good cats.

plucky chasm
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its a paid game

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im not buying mtx

patent path
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now it's the free trial, next month it's doubl xp

plucky chasm
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are more noobs playing rn then

dusty sparrow
patent path
plucky chasm
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ok perfect

next onyx
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Are you not aware there's a free period right now.

plucky chasm
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it would make more sense if double xp was on free weekend

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to entince more to buy it

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?

patent path
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the free trial is to make people buy the game

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the double xp is to keep them playing it

plucky chasm
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i might have to do some portal farm xp servers again

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to level it up

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its just too slow

patent path
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getting hitmarkers with a deagle headshot feels bad man

plucky chasm
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dont have time to play all day

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the game needs proper server browser n more maps

patent path
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you have months to level up

plucky chasm
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yea 2 months apperantly

patent path
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I still haven't unlocked the ak5c yeshoney

plucky chasm
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i havent either im bp level 3 or something

patent path
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the current FNB rush mode is good for farming xp

plucky chasm
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hmm okay

patent path
plucky chasm
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is that u number 1

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oh yep it is

pearl ridge
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This revive delay fucking sucks

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I’m sitting here waiting for a canned third person animation while getting shot at

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If you’re going to delay me then do it like V or fuck off

obsidian spindle
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i have ti pu shi

untold flower
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laugh_cry 2 cheaters on the other team lets guess where theyre from @robust vapor

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fucking cancer people

patent path
pearl ridge
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I know I’ve said this with every update, but the new map is the worst one in the game

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Fucking Christ it’s always a total blowout

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Like that’s a pretty fucking severe balance problem if I haven’t seen a single vaguely even match yet

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It’s worse than Canals

plucky chasm
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why cant we get opertion metro ?

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or get firestorm back

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second assualt dlc for 2042

modern stirrup
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Lancang dam ❤️

plucky chasm
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good work

next onyx
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Should definitely try the fnb mode tomorrow.

plucky chasm
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i hate when people revive me when its not clear

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at least throw a smoke bomb

plucky chasm
spare quest
patent path
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Haven rush chaos

ancient peak
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Any highlight weapons this patch?

patent path
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both new weapons are very good

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smgs are generally better

patent pivot
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

remote kiln
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ak5c with close combat may need nerfed

ionic gale
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it really needs not, especially considering the extended has the wrong ROF

next onyx
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Close combat has tonnes of range.

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Which pretty much makes it superior to use. Though the velocity drop kinda hurts it.

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The gun generally kills slower than average.

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I might learn to use high powered on it since it's just the scar but with standard it's a lot of fun.

pearl ridge
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Why the FUCK does the close quarters urban map have sightlines a hundred metres wide

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Literally everywhere

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Like is this a joke or are they genuinely just incompetent

true nova
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just smoke everything up

ionic gale
# next onyx The gun generally kills slower than average.

Yep, we are then back at the former conversation. The AK5 with standard or CC is basically a slightly worse M16, A-91 or M416. The HP would be a decent choice, if it wasn't for the new HSM and the max damage of 25, which means headshots do not reduce bullets to kill

next onyx
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They do? (3hk vs base 4hk)

fossil trench
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Any planned patches soon?

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I know they’re “working” on it

dusty sparrow
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in may afaik

vocal tusk
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May is 7.2

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There will be updates before that...both major (7.1) and likely minor (Something like 7.0.5) one would imagine. Like past seasons had.

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the content of anything before 7.2 is unknown...probably fixes for recoil and or balance changes for new additions.

ionic gale
# next onyx They do? (3hk vs base 4hk)

The AK5 does 25 damage with HP. With a HSM of 1.9x this means 47.5 damage with a headshot. Two more body shots will net you a total of 97.5 damage, hence one more shot is required. If the AK5C did 26 damage, like the other ARs in it's niche, it would be 49,4+26+26=101,4 damage, so a 3HK.

vocal tusk
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Is this not a really weird way to calculate difference between bodyshot kill and headshots to kill?

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Its 4 shots to body, or 3 to head to kill.

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Why mix and match

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AK5C is in a weird place damage wise, but its just one of those weapons that FEELS good to use (to me)

fossil trench
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It’s good but feels average? Lol

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It’s weird

next onyx
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It's a below average assault rifle.

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Ttk wise.

vocal tusk
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Other way around for me. Its average, but feels good. In saying that..ive only used it for maybe 150 kills.

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And dont have all unlocks

next onyx
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Its niche is that it has low recoil and can work around high accuracy.

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So it works as a great ranged assault and should be kept to that.

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100m 5hk is crazy.

vocal tusk
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It works surprisingly well with single tap or burst tap fire also

next onyx
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You have to.

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In the longest ranges a burst of three to four shots works.

vocal tusk
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Longer range yeah, but medium range its pretty fine

next onyx
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If a person is in the open you can pump 6 to 7 rounds into them.

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I wouldn't really want to push it.

fossil trench
next onyx
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It's best to practice bursting to get into the habit of using it unless they're point blank.

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Crouching can also give you more leniency when firing.

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Due to innate bonuses.

vocal tusk
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Do you think that next game should keep plus system...and keep mag changing...or remove mag changes and just keep attachment swapping? (But give more ammo pool)

next onyx
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Eh it should come back but have ammo pools have relevance.

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For context.

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Say you're running the ak24 and you want to go all in with standard ammo mags. So you arm drums, extended and standard standard. You should be given a pool of 350 rounds.

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The 50 rounds is in account of the mag.

vocal tusk
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I feel like allowing n the fly ammo swap makes weapon loadouts feel a bit too flexible...and as a result less special.

Like once you get all the "Best" magazines...you just never touch or change the weapon again

next onyx
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So when you're out.

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You are out.

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I don't think ammo types really matter to be honest.

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*to swap between them on the fly.

ionic gale
# vocal tusk Is this not a really weird way to calculate difference between bodyshot kill and...

Just to illustrate a major drawback of the AK5C HP when compared to it's peers. Headshots are a relevant part of your DPS, but hard to account for, but I would argue that you get one headshot every twoish gunfights, so if a headshot does not reduce the BTK, it is a relevant nerf to your DPS. The AK5C HP is also a high Vrec gun, so headshots are more likely to occur. It is deliberate with the AK5C, too, Katilio said so yesterday.

next onyx
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You run one specific ammo type so it really doesn't matter. I literally have standard on the scar only for when I'm completely dry. It doesn't provide any real advantage using it.

solid imp
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For some guns it does matter though, esp when you figure in hot swapping a suppressor+subsonic vs anything else

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Fundamental game play difference

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I do that all the time with the m5

ionic gale
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Yeah the only reason to swap is, when you run out, especially with drums that usually only get you one spare

next onyx
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Suppressor and subsonic does make a difference yeah I do agree. Though I don't believe it's too significant of a difference to say it's a bad thing.

solid imp
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Definitely not game changing no, I agree there

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But if I'm going all sneaky sneaky it works just... better?

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lol

ionic gale
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subsonic is only worth it on very few guns, which are the AC and the M5, but the latter should not mount a suppressor, because it has a short barrel option

next onyx
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I usually swap to suppressors to lower my sound profile to at least catch inattentive players out. To stack velocity penalties hurts.

solid imp
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It does hurt... very noticable

next onyx
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Which is really why I'd do it on smgs.

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Maybe one of the guns I go out of my way for it is close combat as Val.

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But that's kinda with the gun so.

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They should encourage people to run the same ammo type by giving large quantities of it if they stack it.

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Not 500 rounds but enough that makes sense.

arctic grove
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So the new smg is crazy

next onyx
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Yeah the EVO is good.

ionic gale
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All the SMGs are decent now, I am actually pleasantly surprised, although I do not know why they couldn't just standardized on 1.9x HSM for all weapons including SMGs

vocal tusk
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Or just more ammo the less mags you equip.

next onyx
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Ehhh

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It goes either way.

robust vapor
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fuck team

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legit

vocal tusk
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I think the new SMG, PP29 and K30 would be too OP with a 1.9 HS

next onyx
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I would kill for an extra hundred rounds of high powered ammo for my scar.

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Keep in mind.

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245 rounds thank you but I require more.

next onyx
vocal tusk
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*Plays support

next onyx
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Support is boring.

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Infinite health.

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Challenging yes.

vocal tusk
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Sure, but its the solution to your issue. needing more ammo.

robust vapor
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I can't be the only one trying to PTFO in rush

next onyx
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No. I don't actually mind the ammo I have.

robust vapor
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in the new map

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I have freaking troglodytes for a team

next onyx
#

But what I mean is that it irks me when I have an additional mag of the same ammo type and it doesn't apply.

ionic gale
vocal tusk
#

Well it would at different ranges

#

So thats not true

next onyx
#

Truth be told assault rifles and lmgs don't have much of a problem ammo economically wise.

#

Smgs need a buff in that.

#

And this whole idea I had was way before assault got additional mags for assault rifles.

vocal tusk
#

Maybe a buff to dropped ammo would help SMGs, and others indirectly. EG...25 bullets instead of 15 per kill

next onyx
#

So now that my scar has more ammo I naturally don't care. But it would be cool for the average player to find out these things and build a class around it.

#

They could just simply give smgs an additional mag.

#

All across the board.

#

165+41 is massive.

next onyx
#

50+100 would go a long way.

ionic gale
# vocal tusk Well it would at different ranges

with 1.9x and 1.55x HSM is consequential (-1 BTK) for 26, 22, 18 and 15, if I calculated correctly, which covers all relevant engagement ranges for any automatic, hence it does not really matter for the SMGs other than the 28 damage ones. I am a stickler for standardizing the complex and convoluted game mechanics

next onyx
#

Man I remember when assault on bf5 could get I think 75% of the mag?

vocal tusk
#

Ive forgotten most things I knew about BFV TBH lol

#

I played it last weekend with mates...and was like...WTF is this?

frigid yoke
#

has bf2042's performance improved? it ran like shit a bit back, constant stuttering. very cpu intensive. I met the listed system requirements.

remote kiln
#

how far back?

vocal tusk
#

Since launch, yes. Shaders are handled pre round on the loading screen...while also being multi-threaded in compilation.

fickle wharf
#

why is the sraw zooming in so much????

#

its shit

vocal tusk
#

Performance through both game, and GPU driver updates has also been immproved quite a bit in my experience

frigid yoke
remote kiln
#

season?

frigid yoke
#

No sorry a year back

#

exactly a year back

remote kiln
#

if it was a year ago then the answer is yes there were performance changes through 4/5

vocal tusk
#

Possibly...but if you are only meeting minimum requirements, you probably wont have an amazing time.

remote kiln
#

^ keep your expectations in check*

frigid yoke
#

I'm well aware

remote kiln
#

you'll be able to run the game probably now at least

vocal tusk
#

an RX 560 or GPU of that caliber wont offer you much on this game.

frigid yoke
remote kiln
#

only way to know is to test yourself

frigid yoke
#

yea

plain meadow
#

what is happening to BF

#

i can't get into the game

vocal tusk
#

Also depends on mode and player count. 128P modes perform much worse than 64P or less modes.

plain meadow
#

am i permanently banned or some fucking shit

#

@brazen breach i know we aren't supposed to tag people, but at this point, idk what to do, but do u know what might be the cause of this? sadge

robust vapor
#

tonight is shit in haven

#

brain dead team

plain meadow
#

bruh

#

idk what to do

#

i can't even open this mf game since the new season

vocal tusk
#

I mean, you havent stated what happens or given any info other than "Game no work", So even if a team member were to see your message...how do they even help

plain meadow
#

ok, i launch > game goes through EA app as per usual > it closes

#

there u go

#

I've reinstalled the game twice

#

the app twice

#

i've repaired it twice

#

the game is beyond fucked

vocal tusk
#

launch from...steam, ea app, what does display...do you get the pre game splash, or nothing?

plain meadow
#

launch from steam > it goes to "launch the game" through the EA app and it automatically stops there

#

I played a couple of games this season (maybe 3) i slept, woke up and tried to get in

#

can't get in since

#

it's been what 3 days?

#

actually unplayable their support won't answer either

#

so either i'm permanently banned or they did something whilst i was asleep which is likely the case, only happens to this game, every other game works perfectly fine.

vocal tusk
#

Did your OS update?

#

This used to happen randomly to me, but it was caused by W11 update

plain meadow
#

did my what update?

vocal tusk
#

OS?

plain meadow
#

OS?

#

what

vocal tusk
#

Operating system>

plain meadow
#

no

#

that shouldn't be the case at all

#

i've had multiple OS updates and it would work

#

I bought the pass and can't get in since

#

so idk what dice did but they fucked me over and i want my fucking money back

#

this is the shit i get and it just stops

vocal tusk
plain meadow
#

aint no way it's a security reason

vocal tusk
#

K, will leave you to handle it with support

solid imp
#

losing the gunship on BT attack is a big change

#

exposure and breakaway play really differently now

kindred flint
#

We're finally getting closer to peak BF..no vehicles

pliant agate
#

why are the maps so terrible made? like literally one helicopter is spawn camping our entire team cause he can infinitely fly between buildings and spam flares

lusty cliff
#

Why is this channel strictly complaining

kindred flint
#

Map design has been bad for many generations now, just accept itSadHampter

vocal tusk
#

The most vocal people are always the complainers.

#

Happy people just get on with it

lusty cliff
#

Very true

pliant agate
#

at least in 2042

lusty cliff
#

Perspective

#

You just negative

ebon pilot
#

i tried voice chat once when it came out

#

someone in the squad had an open mic with what sounded like a fan pointed directly into it

#

i haven't turned on voice again

torpid wadi
#

Honestly I have almost never seen anyone use a mic in any battlefield game I’ve played

vocal tusk
#

Across every BF game ive played. I have never once deliberately used in game voice comms 😄

lusty cliff
#

^

torpid wadi
#

I think V is the bf I seen microphones used the most

#

And that was only a few times

pliant agate
torpid wadi
#

But it happened more than once so it wins

lusty cliff
#

People whine about crap nonstop then continue to put countless hours in, like man, shut up lol. You enjoy the game like the rest of us or you wouldn't be here

kindred flint
#

whining about whining
CursedCatPointing

pliant agate
# lusty cliff People whine about crap nonstop then continue to put countless hours in, like ma...

You really dont get it, the way studios get feedback is through people going into forums and communities like this and seeing how the people who play their game react to things. Thats the whole reason we have gotten the improvements we have, and it just sounds a lot like you're the one getting the most buthurt i just complained about a map and youre over here taking it like a personal attack on you cause its a game you enjoy.

royal swan
#

Ok this new smg does not feel like a smg, it's a straight up carbine. The fact they didn't add a carbine section was really stupid

ebon pilot
#

"the map is bad" isn't good feedback

pliant agate
ebon pilot
#

no that's intentional

pliant agate
ebon pilot
#

there's a lot of counters on this map, if nobody attempts to fight the helicopter it will destroy the team

lusty cliff
ebon pilot
#

you have Rao hacks, SOFLAM, TV missiles, an AA emplacement, stingers, dumbfire rockets, guns do damage just shoot it!

pliant agate
lusty cliff
#

Not trying to change your mind. Couldn't care less tbh. Just saying, if maps are terrible and game is bad why are you here stressing about it

royal swan
#

There is literally a fucking stationary AA in spawn

pliant agate
lusty cliff
#

12 hours and now you an expert on maps?

pliant agate
lusty cliff
#

Skill issue

#

Complain less

#

Learn game

#

Have fun

ebon pilot
pliant agate
royal swan
#

Whoa

lusty cliff
#

I thought we weren't taking things personal lol, are you doing okay

royal swan
#

Took things personal

#

That ain't good

lusty cliff
#

Right

pliant agate
#

? thats not personal?

solid imp
#

we can all cool off and take a step back I'm sure?

#

buy boins

pliant agate
#

its an expression?

kindred flint
#

Jesus that rao hack takes ages now

royal swan
lusty cliff
#

Calling me a "crazy toxic individual" isn't personal at all, you right. So true bestie

pliant agate
#

yall dont know basic english expressions?

lusty cliff
#

Love when my homies tell me to choke on my words as a figure of speech

pliant agate
pliant agate
ebon pilot
lusty cliff
#

Take a NAP dawg. What are you doing, I'm embarrassed for you

pliant agate
#

again the irony is palpable

#

like sure its cringe i got on here to complain into the void, its even cringier you got on here to defend a billion dollar game franchise as if they give a fuck what im saying lol

lusty cliff
#

Aren't you the one that just said they do care, and that's why you did it so you'd be heard lol

#

You're talking in circles and clearly not on the same page

#

I encourage you to play the game more and learn to make helis go boom.

pliant agate
lusty cliff
#

OR, if the game is terrible for you, feel free to play others

#

What do you mean, you're the one that said it...

pliant agate
lusty cliff
#

What...

solid imp
#

This stopped being productive long ago. Let's move on.

lusty cliff
#

Agreed lmao

royal swan
#

Alright are we done

uneven ibexBOT
pliant agate
lusty cliff
#

Aaanyway, I agree about the new smg it feels wild

#

Lol look at buddy go 🤣

solid imp
#

new smg... I am not connecting with it. Or I'm bad with smg's who knows

royal swan
#

The smg feels like a carbine

pliant agate
lusty cliff
#

xd

royal swan
#

Straight up doesn't deserve to be in smg category

kindred flint
royal swan
#

Like it makes me wish for a carbine category

pliant agate
#

feels like a single shot ar

solid imp
#

I can't make myself skip to the ak5c but I want to try that one out

kindred flint
#

I used it for a couple kills felt like the pbx

#

But went back to the 5c because I was playing assault for the nade kill still Hmm

stone cradle
#

New jackfrags video dropped leo

kindred flint
#

bruhhaHAA

lusty cliff
#

I saw that lol

#

Map shenanigans

junior galleon
stone cradle
#

have to change up the formula from time to time

vocal tusk
#

I watcxhed the first 10 mins...in which he didnt die, but lost the game...and didnt really understand the title. Havent watched the rest tho lol

lusty cliff
#

I don't wanna spoil it but yeah if you watch the whole thing you'll kinda see toward the end

vocal tusk
#

Its a YT vid, feel free to spoil 😛

lusty cliff
#

He repeats the phrase a few times so I think he just kinda slapped that title on there for the clicks

#

Well it's about the map

#

Being fairly one sided

#

And the one side always wins

#

So he lost 3 games in a row

ebon pilot
#

which side

lusty cliff
#

And got absolutely "ruined"

#

US I think, or maybe it was Russia I already forgot

vocal tusk
#

Lost on RU first game I saw

amber kelp
#

Russia seems to have a much easier time taking B and D, which leads to them surrounding C and keeping pressure on that till they win

lusty cliff
#

Yeah^

#

Something about high ground leans toward one side and makes it ez

ebon pilot
#

RU seemed to be really good the day 1. Then on day 2 I got 6 US matches and won every single one

#

I'm not sure tbh

amber kelp
#

I think its a case of US taking the path of least resistance which funnels them to C

lusty cliff
#

I'm sure it can be imbalanced by teams, but if they equal teams the one side has an advantage

amber kelp
#

Maybe its different if the teams are more conscious

lusty cliff
#

^

vocal tusk
#

Its far easier to get to C from E...than from C from A.

plucky chasm
amber kelp
vocal tusk
#

As far as I see...the team that holds C tends to win the game

pine roost
#

Going from a to d skipping b and c

#

Wait, wrong game

lusty cliff
#

All I know is that with enough explosives anything is possible

vocal tusk
#

And being able to get to C easier skews it in RU favor

#

There is a 300m straight road leading from US spawn to C...while from RU spawn they are totally covered from C flag defenders

amber kelp
lusty cliff
#

Almost got the railgun unlockeddd

vocal tusk
#

The map needs some transport vehicles IMO. Like 1/2 pondhawks per team.

#

Not only would it help with getting to the gimme flags...but also improve combat variety from ground to air

dire hawk
amber kelp
#

or hell even just an ATV

lusty cliff
#

Gimme a ford tough 4x4 I can strap c5 to

vocal tusk
#

LATV are too exposed and the ground travel lines arent clean enough for how fast they are IMO.

junior galleon
#

atv fits with the bc2 theme as well

vocal tusk
#

But ATV quads maybe, yeah. Perhaps I misunderstood

amber kelp
amber kelp
vocal tusk
#

TBH...I wish there were way more ways to get around to the flanks. Like they have the water body there...could have put rhib boats or something...but there is just no use of it

amber kelp
#

there are still no boats in this game

vocal tusk
#

They have Rhib boats in portal

kindred flint
#

Like redacted can the ru side just get to the middle point faster every single round?

junior galleon
amber kelp
vocal tusk
#

RU can get to E, D and C faster

ebon pilot
vocal tusk
#

Yes, Noshahr canals has rhib boats

#

I mean...basically no AOW maps have water lmao

kindred flint
#

Expecting water is being brutal

amber kelp
#

so theyve had Rhibs since launch, have made 14 or so maps, and have never decided to put even a river in them?

vocal tusk
#

Precisely

amber kelp
kindred flint
#

Map design again... not dices strong suit

amber kelp
#

thats not even map design its ahndhyrewhnwbd

#

AAAAAAAAA

vocal tusk
#

I also wish vehicle gunners weapons had a bit more projectile velocity, but balance with a bit reduced damage at extreme range

robust vapor
kindred flint
#

I still love how imbalanced getting out of the spawn/first cap was on redacted lol like no one tested that before launch..

robust vapor
#

been 3 days

#

yesterday i was too tired to play

ebon pilot
#

i'm only at mastery 10

#

i have employment holding me back

kindred flint
#

Money issue

robust vapor
#

Will have to wait to unlock AK5C and then T1 it

kindred flint
#

Impressive you didn't just get the 2.2k boin pass

robust vapor
#

my salary ain't out yet tbh

kindred flint
#

I just did it because what else will I use 4.5k 2042_Boin on keanu

quaint vector
#

TBH I didn't get the Utimate Pass like I did for S6 just because this S7 weapons are not that far in the Battle Pass

robust vapor
#

I'm only getting battle pass

#

for the skins

kindred flint
#

Can't wait to unlock all the exclusive BP skins for the new guns leo

robust vapor
#

FNB tonight is like

#

the fastest way to T1 the SCZ

#

gotta grab that opportunity

#

tho i dislike the amped up movement speed

wispy oar
#

anyone heard any news about fix eta for disconnects ? since S7 update PC

vocal tusk
#

Ive not even seen any report such disconnects, nor experienced any TBH

wispy oar
quaint vector
robust vapor
remote kiln
woven acorn
#

Have they removed the emp shot from the drones?

slow tulip
#

What's the possibility of season 8 before they sunset the game?

crude trellis
#

S8 is in the folder structure datamined a while ago

ancient sky
#

how do i join a game without AI

#

and where are the community servers

chilly jacinth
#

Portal

ancient sky
#

i joined portal and only 5 players are real

woven acorn
#

you could create your own server

#

and turn off Ai i believe

chilly jacinth
#

Sort by player count

wheat panther
#

haven has taught me about short barrels and close quarter ammo.. never even give it a try before lol

junior galleon
sullen turret
#

new smg is insane lol

slow tulip
junior galleon
pine roost
patent pivot
stone cradle
#

They'll go onto 10 and call it Season X like Epic games did with Fortnite

frigid yoke
uneven ibexBOT
solid imp
#

rao + smoke in close quarters is underappreciated

kindred flint
remote kiln
pine roost
#

16 minutes is rather short

#

Makes sense given the size I guess

chilly jacinth
#

literally not what i experienced ever

#

but data doesnt lie

pine roost
#

Data never lies

amber kelp
viscid bone
#

I too was surprised by it 🙂

#

It's something we are constantly working on though, hopefully the longer duration helps!

amber kelp
#

I wonder if matchmaking contributes in some way to impression that it is heavily Russia sided

stone cradle
#

But nice to see you guys increasing ticket limit

fickle wharf
#

team 1
team 2
??????????

solid imp
#

US and RU

stone cradle
#

why didn't they just state US and RU lol

#

much less confusing

patent pivot
#

What's the context

solid imp
#

Guessing it's team1 and team2 because that spans all gamemodes

#

US isn't always attacking on BT for example

#

In Portal it's all "team 1" and "team 2"

patent pivot
solid imp
#

discarded, exposure, kale, orbital, spearhead,...

#

those are all RU attackers

viscid bone
#

It's in context to Haven CQ, and US is Team 1.

rose bobcat
#

On ps5 got mic anyone trynna kill some fuckers?

patent pivot
#

Idk if I'm mistaken or not
Both sides dialogue are wrong

#

Us side- he said we're defending

patent path
#

he said it guys, he said the line

fiery shoal
# remote kiln

always love these insights into the data and train of thoughts on balance

#

though, just giving more tickets might not really be a solution either, but it could help, the way i see it is that it just gives more chances for a sort of random chance breakthrough
if the map layoud is completely unbalanced that would be the main problem wouldn it?

solid imp
#

"future is unfolding before"
before what? 🤔

remote kiln
#

season 8

amber kelp
#

Season 6: "welcome to the deep dark facility of inhuman experiments. What are they creating here? Player skins of course"
Season 7: "a new alliances has formed, and with this world power comes Player skins of course"
Season 8: "Welcome to the future. What does the future bring to the world? Player skins of course"

pine roost
#

And mechs

still vault
#

Makes no sense

patent path
#

would be funny if this game keeps going on forever

#

this IS the battlefield game from now on

patent pivot
pine roost
#

More portal stuff? Next to zero

copper hull
patent pivot
pine roost
#

Well the updates have been pretty good thus far

patent path
#

yeah

pine roost
#

The vehicle changes this patch are fantastic

patent pivot
pine roost
#

Sure, maybe the two maps claim is stretching it a bit, but I can enjoy existing content more now

patent path
pine roost
#

Firing by itself?

patent path
#

no I was firing it

#

trying to show the fart cloud it exudes whenever I shoot

pine roost
#

Would like to watch it but discord doesn’t want me to

kindred flint
patent path
#

I don't think he's coming

kindred flint
#

Taking the scenic route

slow tulip
patent path
#

yeah nah

#

delta force is dookie

slow tulip
#

It's also gonna be f2p. It's probably gonna stay for sometime just like the finals

kindred flint
#

But the gun animations???

slow tulip
#

Stolen from COD MW

patent path
#

1:1 copied from cod, since they have the rights to use those animation

slow tulip
#

Those devs even made COD Mobile

kindred flint
#

So not stolen keanu

patent path
#

techincally not

kindred flint
#

It's just reusing their own shit

patent path
#

actually yes

slow tulip
#

Gun models are different

patent path
#

nah, they were given rights by activision to work on codm

kindred flint
#

Game looks pretty uninspired though...

patent path
#

used a loophole to get those animations on their own game

slow tulip
patent path
#

they are just abusing the partnership

slow tulip
patent path
#

well, what you get for working with a chinese company

kindred flint
#

Copy paste yo

#

2042 destruction? So it has none?SadHampter

patent path
#

even the textures on some of the maps look identical to 2042's

slow tulip
slow tulip
vocal tusk
patent path
#

it's like 2042 specialists on steroid

slow tulip
#

The original games weren't hero shooters

#

The next battlefield won't have specialists

patent path
#

yeah they ruined the legacy of delta force with a hero shooter

slow tulip
#

DF Hawk Ops is a hero shooter

#

It even has a Extraction mode similar to COD's DMZ

toxic anvil
#

DF the good old days when you got a cardboard template for your keyboard.

slow tulip
#

The original games were good. Terrains felt like infinite

patent path
# pine roost How so?

in partnership with acti to make cod mobile, so they got the rights to use those animations

pine roost
#

Thats pretty funny

#

But fair play on their part

stone cradle
#

Wait so tencent is behind delta force

pine roost
#

b e e c o l o n y

patent path
#

yupper

cosmic dragon
#

i know i shouldnt be comparing mobile to pc but i think warzone mobile has released in a worse state than 2042

uneven ibexBOT
chilly jacinth
#

tip1

#

get good

stoic geyser
#

Can someone help me? I got a notification earlier today on my xbox one x saying battlefield 2042 is free for a limited time, but whenever I click on the notification or go in the store non of the options are free. I have played the game on a friend's console and wanted to see how well it ran on mine but can't figure this out😭

chilly jacinth
#

its console

#

its gonna run the same

stoic geyser
#

Alright, do you know a fix for it not showing up as free?

chilly jacinth
#

no clue

toxic anvil
#

alt f4

stoic geyser
#

Do you know of anywhere else I can ask for help?

chilly jacinth
#

try logging in to the xbox site and downloading it that way

stoic geyser
#

I'll try

coarse elbow
#

Next Hotfix
April 2nd

Excuse me what lol

kindred flint
#

new to modern gaming? leo

coarse elbow
#

When people say Hotfix it means maybe a few days

#

Not 2 weeks

toxic anvil
#

you tell um

kindred flint
#

these things take time to go through console approval CursedCatPointing

coarse elbow
#

DICE pushing the industry forward as usual

coarse elbow
#

They really are keeping gaming down

dapper river
prime hollow
#

Why are my grenades going Mach 2 into the sunset

patent path
#

rush chaos?

#

you move faster and throw things further

prime hollow
#

That would explain it

karmic egret
#

MY tip is uninstall your game

arctic grove
#

Apparently me having a 2.2kd means im a camper

bitter mulch
#

#GTA6 update

• Goal is to release Early 2025 but production is falling behind

• Fall 2025 release is more likely

• 2026 is on the table as an emergency option ... Maybe Battlefield wont have competition next year🤷

sullen violet
#

🤷

#

Any game companies should avoid releasing games close to when Rockstar will release gta 6 i'd say. Specially if they care about day one sales numbers etc...

deft tinsel
#

why are there so many vhx players again?

#

did iit get a buff?

ebon pilot
#

nope it's still just really good

junior galleon
ebon pilot
#

BKorth23 was very upset with me

#

can you imagine fighting someone standing in the middle of smoke with subsonic rounds with an EMP effect on your screen while they know exactly where you are

pine roost
#

very freightening

bitter mulch
thick tusk
#

Is the new map only a 64p map again?

bitter mulch
zealous loom
#

64 >

thick tusk
zealous loom
bitter mulch
sullen violet
bitter mulch
sullen violet
#

Player satisfaction is as important as initial sales. If player not satisfied will be less future sales anyway 🤷 we'll see and let's hope for the best even though my expectations is low

junior galleon
#

im honestly surprised they didnt already drop it like how bf4 dropped support halfway through the free dlc period

kindred flint
#

jesus christ i cant play right now

bitter mulch
kindred flint
#

fucking potato with the new smg and my RU side is losing everything but D SadHampter

bitter mulch
zealous loom
#

Which has more enemy interactions in 2042, 64 or 128? I've not tried the 64 much in 2042 and have not played in a while

arctic grove
#

It honestly doesn’t matter when EA drops a Battlefield when GTA 6 releases, but obviously it’s not like GTA is just gonna absolve all of the bf playerbase over to it

#

GTA is just too big of an IP tho so it’ll take up most of the gaming worlds attention for quite a while

bitter mulch
kindred flint
#

are people expecting gta 6 online to be revolutionary? haHAA

sullen violet
# bitter mulch Yeah thats true. Battlefield needs to deliver. Its now or never and i hope EA a...

Yeah i would agree with that statement. I'd say its not something they can just brush off. I feel they are on their final chance to being able to keep battlefield alive, and keep it relevant in fps games discussion. That's my thought at least, as for fan base they would be more happy and probably grow positivelly 🤷 I am somewhat confident they will perform better for the next title, but we'll see. Changed management, strange changes that got approved for 2042 reduces expectations for me really low

arctic grove
junior galleon
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it was "now or never" after bfv. now its "now or never" after 2042

bitter mulch
kindred flint
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MoH was so weird with it being made by 2 different studios lol

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the SP was like a classic nicely done experience then the MP gameplay was totally different ... and pretty poor

junior galleon
# bitter mulch Not really, specialy with EA history. Medal of honor was also a big ip and its g...

i suppose thats true, but medal of honor died because call of duty and battlefield existed. cod 1 was codenamed "medal of honor killer" and ea wouldnt put resources into it when battlefield was just doing better. until something that can replicate the battlefield feel and doesnt lean into milsim too much (squad) or die in 3 month (battlebit), or until ea can find a new semi-realistic shooter franchise that does better than battlefield, people are stuck with battlefield

pine roost
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I know I keep blabbering on about it, but I genuinelly cannot wait for the nightbird to get fixed. The tank turret changes feel like what it would meant to me to have those changes pushed

gray epoch
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is this game still in early access? because it feels like it

arctic grove
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I haven’t played bf2042 for a very long time

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My question is what guns are meta?

kindred flint
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the ones youre best with leo

arctic grove
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Im liking the aks-74u so far

gray epoch
# junior galleon no

is there an update log somewhere? i want to see what they fixes after all this time

lusty cliff
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What's the benefit to running fnb? Anything special compared to playing normally?

vagrant saffron
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Is the FNB Server tonight in EU?
Playing cloud gaming trough mobile device thus input lag can be higher I noticed.
Honestly up to the point it is less fun and very challenging to play thus I ask.
Overall I love to play with US as well.

arctic grove
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But its over

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Nvm its not over

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U can still join

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junior galleon
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check the steam news section on the game

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or game news in this server

vocal tusk
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Update notes for every update ever

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bitter mulch
arctic grove
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Can someone tell me what some of the best guns are that aren‘t hard to unlock?

lusty cliff
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M5a3 u start with is pretty good

bitter mulch
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And to be fair why is BF not looking at the bigger picture. Cod did go with a BF mode like conquest for the past games. Cod mp league it not in a good state right now. Why dont BF take advatange in that try a 6 vs 6 small maps destruction with fluid movement which can shake the competitive side of Fps games like cod, cs, valorant...

patent pivot
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As for bo2 and ghosts, no idea

full burrow
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whats the server tickrate here?

patent pivot
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Considering I had to install mods and server client for them

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Probably not good

bitter mulch
full burrow
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I thought I got killed by a shotgun until it said avancys

patent pivot
bitter mulch
patent pivot
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Well

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I'm enjoying them with custom client and mods

lusty cliff
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What's ur guys go to long range oneshot sniper?

frigid yoke
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battlefield 2042 doesn't start? When I launch it, it opens up ea launcher and then just closes itself?

lusty cliff
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Railgun is cool but feels far from optimal

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yeah ive had a lot of success with dxr too

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sws10 solid but for some reason dxr feels better

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I see a lot of people use GOL but i haven't tried it

ivory canopy
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I haven't touched the Gol in a LONG time

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lusty cliff
zealous loom
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I would love for BF to stay as far as possible away from anything CoD does

tawny carbon
zealous loom
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excuse my dyslexia pepeLaugh

arctic grove
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Can someone actually help me or am i just going to get ignored again

tawny carbon
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What you need help with?

lusty cliff
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I literally answered

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the next message

tawny carbon
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Oof

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O the M5a3 weapon message

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Best starter weapon, you right ngl Norgretor

oak trench
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Free to download but nobody wants it for free either 🤣

arctic grove
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And not the overall meta like Vhx d3 or sum shit

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Just a good weapon

remote kiln
arctic grove
remote kiln
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scz/scar/ac42 are all good options

arctic grove
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I don‘t like the burst of the 42

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arctic grove
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Scar is mediocre at best

arctic grove
gilded goblet
remote kiln
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no the scar is one of the best ARs in the game lol

gilded goblet
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use it

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then tell me how u go

arctic grove
remote kiln
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its not a meta weapon

arctic grove
remote kiln
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its just a good AR

gilded goblet
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if u don't like that try a bit of lever action and use the GTV-45 7p

arctic grove
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Sure💀

gilded goblet
remote kiln
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...

gilded goblet
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it's not meta never has been really

arctic grove
gilded goblet
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Or even go for a sidearm

arctic grove
remote kiln
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videos arent season 7..

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its not meta lol

gilded goblet
arctic grove
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Sureee

tawny carbon
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M5 and Am40 gets used more than the scar

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Ak is also good to use

arctic grove
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M5 is kinda repetitive

remote kiln
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?

arctic grove
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Ak is not something i like

remote kiln
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then what weapon do you like

arctic grove
remote kiln
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how can you know what ones you dont?

ivory canopy
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What do you prefer strategy-wise?

arctic grove
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Omfg

arctic grove
ivory canopy
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Use an SMG