battlefield-2042

[tawny carbon]

which is not tbh

[amber kelp]

we're saying its not a new map. That the core is the same, and the extra props do not fundamentally change it

[royal swan]

yeah it's filled with props that will block some line of sight and passages, but the foundation is the fucking same, also it did have an elevator area but it was unusable

in the old version

[velvet sand]

we are? who? literally everyone just been saying "it's not a new map" that it lol

[royal swan]

i bet it's been repurpose for a zip line shaft

[amber kelp]

implying Korea and Japan do not hate eachother

[tawny carbon]

last one is very tight and close quarters this one isnt its more wide and spread out for the modes

[drowsy rose]

They signed security treaty recently so

[gritty cypress]

hope they do something with the inside of the stadium (where the sports would happen) and its not just sand as before

[royal swan]

for the foundation, the blank model itself, yes, they didn't remake it from scratch

[amber kelp]

Ive worked with Koreans, the two are not on good terms. Theyre only united against china and nk

[next onyx]

Pac is ironic since they all hate each other.

[amber kelp]

Its the same stadium.

[velvet sand]

i doubt they're leaving that a big sandbox, will prob have lots of shipping containers spread around : 3

[tawny carbon]

how?

[next onyx]

Russia, Japan, etc

[amber kelp]

we have seen the outside of the stadium. The size is the same

[tawny carbon]

how is it the same exact stadium

[amber kelp]

Its in the trailer. We know it is not stretched out

[drowsy shuttle]

I think you are asking too much lol

[gritty cypress]

they 100% do not have the time to make another stadium, we're only getting a second map because it is basically unchanged

[royal swan]

they did not make the stadium from scratch

that's fucking dumb

[heady thunder]

n

[velvet sand]

i don't think we "know" that though, they didn't show off the full map yet

[royal swan]

they have the foundation readily available

[amber kelp]

we have direct view of the stadium exterior from the trailer

[tawny carbon]

they fully revamped it from the old one to make it better than the old one. its not exact same as the old one

[amber kelp]

they added boxes

[tawny carbon]

huh

[plain meadow]

bruh

[velvet sand]

from the front. we don't know how far back the interior playspaces extend because they mostly showed interior shots looking outwards towards the outer walls

[plain meadow]

i cant open the game

[royal swan]

it's much more than boxes but yes they added clutter

way more cover

[gritty cypress]

im jealous :p

[tawny carbon]

im not talking about boxes or any military war like assets

[royal swan]

but its the same piece that was used from old hourglass

[plain meadow]

[drowsy shuttle]

Need a special key

[plain meadow]

I NEED MA FIX

[velvet sand]

if this is your standard, than every one of the launch maps is also new as they also feature some terrain changes from their OG versions and not just boxes dropped in alone.

[tawny carbon]

the stadium itself is better than the last. its NOT a copy pasta

[amber kelp]

you actually can se briefly that the middle is still filled with sand

There are no new areas shown. So now, they didnt dig out the stadium

[gritty cypress]

classic 2042 rework... wonder if they chopped any of it off 😄

[tawny carbon]

yes they market wrong but why yall upset when yall complain of why its not in the playable area of hourglass rework anyways

[amber kelp]

these are the only known changes

[plain meadow]

hook yo boi up man

[tawny carbon]

and after the reworked of hourglass happened yall been begging for it to comeback

[royal swan]

https://youtu.be/hAuyD8OWAQg?si=CqDnFD3sVDX-nHAu

this is old stadium

[amber kelp]

you know the answer to this Ouija.

[royal swan]

I will so compare the reworked map with this video

[amber kelp]

Must you always yell in bad faith to farm discord pings?

[tawny carbon]

now its back as a fully revamped stadium to make the community happy

[gritty cypress]

y'know what sucks... the fact that they straight up REMOVED the previous maps rather than keeping both... I mean, wtf

[drowsy shuttle]

What

[amber kelp]

no.

Previous maps are too beyond unsalvagable to warrant keeping

[royal swan]

no, we were glad they were gone

[gritty cypress]

but what if I want to play vs bots on an old version

[tawny carbon]

blame lat gen consoles

[amber kelp]

theyre not even good post revamp, thats how bad the old ones were

[amber kelp]

I will blame the people who designed and lead the product they sold me thank you very much

[plain meadow]

Well, Haven in particular sucks on rush

[gritty cypress]

season 8: pre rework maps return!! we have 6 NEW maps everyone!!

[tawny carbon]

because the development was 16 months and their leadership is awful. yea shit happens but thats the past

[amber kelp]

lol.

[drowsy shuttle]

I don't think we will have season 8

[plain meadow]

they're gonna release the next bf before we get a season 8

[tawny carbon]

s8 will end it for support

[remote kiln]

it is not the pre version of hourglass

[ivory canopy]

Hourglass rework should have just been the stadium

[amber kelp]

theyll do a season 8, or a sendoff update. We got over a year before BF6, theyll want to gain some mtx money

[plain meadow]

Shoulda released stadium now and wait with haven

[tawny carbon]

its a fully revamped, am i right?

[remote kiln]

yes

[tawny carbon]

thank you

[amber kelp]

(he means more than adding cover and moving objectives)

[remote kiln]

no the stadium in this is quite a bit different to previously

[tawny carbon]

the stadium itself, the layout and all is better than the last one

[remote kiln]

it looks to be entirely redone in most of where it matters

[plain meadow]

you would hope that was the case

[royal swan]

we don't even know the layout yet

[plain meadow]

imagine they just shipped stadium as hourglass stadium

[remote kiln]

we have a vague inference of the layout from the trailer

[gritty cypress]

Im sure there will still be some spawnpoints that put you under the map or in a wall 😄

[plain meadow]

eh

[tacit sorrel]

1 new map and 1 revamp is all they do every season

[plain meadow]

that shit been fixed

[remote kiln]

that wasn't a thing on the old hourglass

[plain meadow]

just gotta make guns more consistent when it comes to damage ngl

and hit reg needs an overhaul

[gritty cypress]

yes, but they added spawns that spawn you under the map and in walls WITH some of the reworks 🙃

[royal swan]

haven't seen those in a long time. thats like beta/after launch

[amber kelp]

Im looking at footage rn, there nothing that seems to be fundamentally different. Lots of cover added on the interiors, but no new or replaced rooms or anything.

[plain meadow]

ngl sounds like a you problem my guy

[gritty cypress]

can regularly spawn under the map on manifest, thats probably the easiest

[remote kiln]

there were out of bound exploits, there was never a spawn point out of bounds glitch

[plain meadow]

i've NEVER had that happen to me

seems like a rare case

[remote kiln]

if it exists it's geometry related not objective related

[plain meadow]

Redacted when it got released, people was exploiting into walls and putting spawn beacons in there

took them awhile to "fix"

[drowsy shuttle]

Well, was fun. See you guys in 7.2

[remote kiln]

that's because there were multiple entry points to get out the map

[plain meadow]

i don't get how people even figure this shit out from day one ngl

[remote kiln]

players are crafty they'll do whatever they can to get an advantage

[amber kelp]

@remote kiln what changes are you referring to? Its decorated and has more cover but no room has a geometry change

[plain meadow]

true

[remote kiln]

they did it with metro locker they will definitely do it with this

[tawny carbon]

looks very well done compared to the old stadium

[plain meadow]

looks the same

etc for more destruction

[tawny carbon]

looks bigger and wider tbh

[charred stag]

So...thoughts on the new map?

[remote kiln]

the lower entry point has been widened up to 3 entry points instead of 2, there was no zip line access to inside the stadium on the old stadium, the 2 inner layout sections are widened up compared to the old layout (most likely where the new flag points are), and the outer section has been rechanged from outside the stadium, that's just what we know so far

[amber kelp]

its not
https://youtu.be/hAuyD8OWAQg?si=y-5jvcsoSSuqRefv&t=58

[plain meadow]

i was just joking around

[tawny carbon]

with more features also

[remote kiln]

but no this isn't just a copy and paste as people are making out

[plain meadow]

it's definitely different, can't say it ain't

[remote kiln]

we need to see the outer section of the stadium that hasn't been shown yet on the south side

[tawny carbon]

its fully revamped from the ground up to fit all modes at once. last one will be very tight close quarters and will be unbalanced.

[tawny carbon]

true true

[amber kelp]

you can see glimpses of it, its still full of sand. Doubt its changed.
You seem to mis understand. you came in the middle of the conversation. What oujia has been saying is that it was much more than the normal reworks we see, enough to warrant calling it a new map

[remote kiln]

new map no, shady marketing yes, but it's arbitrary regardless

people have been crying for the stadium to return since it got removed since the playerbase are morons, so they got exactly what they wanted

[tawny carbon]

id say bad marketing but its a new stadium either way

[amber kelp]

yeah the only gripe is what they promised it be.

[remote kiln]

there's no point arguing over it its dumb marketing but going over the ethics or what constitutes new doesn't produce anything

[amber kelp]

like if they just said "were bringing back the stadium" or put some asterisk on the new map claim, then great addition

[tawny carbon]

thats what i been saying, community got what they wanted back and still complain because its not in the reworked hourglass

[amber kelp]

it is outright lying. Im not letting that slide.

[remote kiln]

well you'll need to I'm afraid

[gritty cypress]

aw man, i spent all this time looking through my recordings for videos of me falling through the map at spawn... and I cant upload videos D:

[remote kiln]

because they're not going to change the trailer that's for sure

[amber kelp]

no I do not.

[remote kiln]

you need the booster or regular role

[tawny carbon]

people been wanting stadium in general, now we have stadium as a standalone

[remote kiln]

you can argue over futility if you want ig lol

[plain meadow]

don't try for regular role

people bought that shit

[remote kiln]

it just doesn't get anywhere

[amber kelp]

if someone tries to tell me that it was actually not a lie, Im going to say theyre full of shit. I will also site this whenever they imply any large boost in content without outright saying it.

[remote kiln]

you have a right to be angry, but you need to accept and move on eventually

when that is, is up to you

[plain meadow]

If stadium is going to be some sort of redacted close quarter combat, i'll be happy.

[remote kiln]

but you're not going to get anywhere larping on this forever

[amber kelp]

you imply im under emotional distress

[remote kiln]

you're not

[tawny carbon]

its 3 floors now?

https://x.com/BFBulletin/status/1769696027731263852?s=20

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin) on X

#Battlefield2042 Season 7
Stadium 🏟️

🔹 Standalone experience.
🔹 Multi-level, 3 floors.
🔹 Infantry only.
🔹 There's a new patch that has been opened up.
🔹 Lots of cover.
🔹 Lighting has been completely redone.
🔹 DICE is thinking of a crazy, vehicle mayhem exp for Portal.

Twitter · Mar 18, 2024, 12:03 PM

[plain meadow]

aww shit it is infantry

nice

[remote kiln]

there's obviously some sort of emotional reaction, not particularly distress, but it's enough to make you want to say something about it

the tldr is it's equivalent to talking about server browsers in 2024

it goes nowhere

[amber kelp]

to bad, its gonna get talked about

[remote kiln]

you do you as I said

[amber kelp]

I intend to do me

[remote kiln]

it was already technically 3 levels before

the "lower floor" was the entry into the stadium though

[tawny carbon]

i wonder if they are talking about not ground floor .... idk well see lol

[royal swan]

The argument that they got what they wanted why are they mad is not good or valid, yes we wanted a stadium but we also wanted a new map like Haven was. But that wasn't the case, we are mad because the stadium was advertised to be a new map like Haven but it wasn't it was a revamped section of the map from an existing map hourglass claimed to be "new"

[amber kelp]

if they added new rooms theyd probably show new rooms

[remote kiln]

stadium was shit to play in during hourglass and them bringing it back changes nothing

[tawny carbon]

new map as a standalone basically

[plain meadow]

at least it's close-quarter combat focused

[remote kiln]

just fake nostalgia from this playerbase like usual

[amber kelp]

cannot fathom being nostalgic for this game

[tawny carbon]

it was so bad in the old one

[gritty cypress]

remember when the trailer came out and the game looked good, but we hadnt actually played the game, im nostalgic for that 😄

[royal swan]

trailers lie

[remote kiln]

they never advertised the game in the trailer

[tawny carbon]

conquest 128 or 64p on the old one... sheesh it was a nightmare

[remote kiln]

it was a cinematic generated trailer

[gritty cypress]

it was the best the game ever was 😢

[plain meadow]

nah

[gritty cypress]

unreleased 😉

[plain meadow]

season 6 was the best it ever was

[amber kelp]

almost as good as titanfall 3

[remote kiln]

people don't know but it wasn't even intended to be the released trailer lol

[slow tulip]

Is season 7 gonna be the last?

[remote kiln]

they ran out of money and made that fan fueled nostalgia trailer in like 2 weeks

[plain meadow]

people gonna flip their shit when the new game is going to be released

inb4 comment section will be filled with "DoA"

[amber kelp]

they did a good job then

[slow tulip]

It's already not looking good

[remote kiln]

we don't know

nobody knows

[royal swan]

nothing was said, it's more likely s8 is a thing

[plain meadow]

yeah i know, firing all those guys, and the old dude, not looking good as is atm

[remote kiln]

lehto left by himself

he wasn't fired

[plain meadow]

i mean

[royal swan]

Lehto left on his own terms

[slow tulip]

They are also making a f2p battle royal. Probably wants to compete against warzone

[plain meadow]

there must have been a reason

[royal swan]

EA was the reason

[remote kiln]

he left on personal terms it's already been disclosed

[plain meadow]

f2p ba

[remote kiln]

whether that was conflict with EA or not is a separate question

that will never be answered though

[plain meadow]

bro left cus he knows game will flop like bf2042

no joke

[remote kiln]

he wasn't making the game

[royal swan]

he was making the campaign

[plain meadow]

if that's the case

oh

[slow tulip]

He left on bad terms. His entire team got laid off. Criterion is gonna continue what his team left

[plain meadow]

oh nvm

[amber kelp]

his tweet heavily implies its EA

[plain meadow]

fuck that

who tf cares about campaign

[amber kelp]

agreed

[remote kiln]

no the studio got shut down because lehto left, EA themselves said this, they handed it off to criterion to continue continuity

[royal swan]

Oh boy, that's spicy

[slow tulip]

Bf2042 is a great game without a single player?

[plain meadow]

lemme rephrase - who tf cares about BF since BF1< and older campaign

[amber kelp]

if they spent time and talent on a single player it would be even worse

[gritty cypress]

it would be bad even with single player 😄

[slow tulip]

You might reconsider after playing bad company 2

[plain meadow]

i've played them all

and didn't interest me the slighest

[slow tulip]

Bf5's campaign sucked

[plain meadow]

even mw19 had a better campaign

[remote kiln]

we don't know anything, he's angry rightfully because they axed the studio he built himself, but we don't know anything in regards to what came before

[slow tulip]

Bf1 had short but memorable campaigns

[royal swan]

that's because it was a good campaign, not really proving anything

[plain meadow]

it proves that battlefield can't make good campaign

[remote kiln]

lehto is exiting the game industry so the best guess is he is just getting tired of it in general

but that's speculation

[amber kelp]

as I said, heavily implied. That doesnt mean we know, just that its a likely guess

[slow tulip]

Players were saying they would have more time to work on the multiplayer on bf2042 if they don't make a single player. Everyone knows how is the multiplayer

[remote kiln]

well we had when dice built single players and they have all essentially been shit so

[plain meadow]

Not sure why they're trying to enter the BA franchise

[remote kiln]

better leave it to the people who actually know what they're doing

[plain meadow]

seems like BF isn't the right game for that

[amber kelp]

they were right. You seem to not understand how development works. If the MP is fucked without a campaign, then it is even more fucked with a campaign

[royal swan]

So, you all do know multiple studios are working on the game. Dice is not alone here

[slow tulip]

Warzone is banking even though it's not well liked. That's why we also have specialists in bf2042

[amber kelp]

this was true for 2042 as well

[tawny carbon]

i wish last gen didnt hold us back, we couldve gotten this version

[remote kiln]

no, it wasnt

[royal swan]

not as many

it was way less

[remote kiln]

the studios came in for 2042 at the end of the development cycle

they were not at the beginning

[plain meadow]

I mean, it's not well-liked cus of the cheaters infesting that game

[remote kiln]

these are very different circumstances for making a game

[amber kelp]

which we only discovered after launch. AFAIK we dont know the full extent of other studios involvement

[plain meadow]

tf is this

[remote kiln]

we do because? they're literally publicly talked about

[junior galleon]

it was a fine campaign but not top tier at all

[amber kelp]

to what detail?

[tawny carbon]

the original version of hourglass from the development

[plain meadow]

Why does that look better then what we got

[remote kiln]

EA told investors what studios were being brought in to support whatever component of the game we didn't find out post launch

[tawny carbon]

the concept art for it as well

[remote kiln]

this was disclosed months before the game came out

because, they legally need to do that lol

[plain meadow]

nah

they can do whatever

[tawny carbon]

last gen cant handle it lol, so they had to degrade it by alot

[plain meadow]

no need for a legal system

[velvet sand]

they like, bragged about it publicly too. how many studios were working on it and how the game was literally being worked on 24/7 lol. people have bad memories

[plain meadow]

[remote kiln]

they can't do whatever with investors money

[slow tulip]

It was well liked by the players. Overall performed better than bf2042

[tranquil turtle]

The result is an unfixable map

[plain meadow]

imagine a big map with hourglass, haven and stadium combined together into a big shit fest

[tawny carbon]

lol

[remote kiln]

yes because when a game gets scrapped and rebuilt multiple times effectively that's what they're talking about, not, a singular game

[plain meadow]

that would be dope (for 2 games)

[slow tulip]

Players are tired of battle royal but cod fanboys will play anything that carries the name cod

[ivory canopy]

How about TDM on CQ sized maps (oh wait they practically do that)

[plain meadow]

ngl i'd also play carl on duty if i could

[ivory canopy]

I'm not getting the SCZ3 today

[ivory canopy]

I'm burned out

[plain meadow]

would be a lit game

[tawny carbon]

the very first teaser trailer was using that version of the map. people were upset because it looked nothing like it at launch

[velvet sand]

play battlefield hardline and pretend your carl?

[plain meadow]

doesn't work the same man

[charred stag]

Man that original hourglass looked so much better. Why did we have to get silk road 2.0

[amber kelp]

"its ahead of schedule"

Ea has set a precedent of implying development is smoother and better than it really is. I cannot in good faith trust them to be telling the full truth when they discuss the # of studios

[junior galleon]

didnt a dev tweet the game only got delayed so they could fix minor terrain deformation issues and that the game was perfectly fine

[plain meadow]

might as well play R6 at that point

[amber kelp]

silk road is a good map, much better than hourglass

[royal swan]

we don't diss on silk road

[plain meadow]

I already told dice multiple times to get me in as map creator

i'll make a map for the people

[tawny carbon]

same thing tbh compared to reworked hourglass

[charred stag]

Yeah but it's too damn open. Hills are literally your cover from enemy snipers

[junior galleon]

keep telling yourself that

[amber kelp]

add cp_orange to bf6

[plain meadow]

[amber kelp]

its just a better version of Golmund

[remote kiln]

no lol it was the worst map in the game

[tawny carbon]

the night vsersoin of it

[slow tulip]

Firestorm was dead on arrival. Next battle royal might suck

[plain meadow]

wtf this looks sick

[slow tulip]

Hazard zone is dead on bf2042

[tawny carbon]

facts

[plain meadow]

might have been a bit too big

[royal swan]

because it was built in the game, it wasn't f2p at all

[plain meadow]

but it looks dope nonetheless

[remote kiln]

it's just concept art, the renditions always look way better than the maps themselves

[junior galleon]

only if you like jihad motorbiking

[amber kelp]

real talk: Why are all the lights on? Why is Doha still powered and not completely abandoned. It is drowned in sand, it is unlivable, why is it potrayed as an active city?

[slow tulip]

Now f2p battle royal is even a bad idea

The battle royal trend is dying

[tawny carbon]

f2p means more cheaters compared to paid games

[royal swan]

when

[amber kelp]

one of the many advantages of the map is the art of jihad yes

[slow tulip]

Extraction shooter and looter shooter are gaining popularity

[plain meadow]

but imagine it being an actual map (of course not fully perfected like the image) but close too the OG concept art

[royal swan]

last i check, the 3 big boys, apex, warzone, and fortnight are still alive and kicking

[amber kelp]

are they though?

[plain meadow]

i'd fuck with it ngl

[velvet sand]

alright, lets see how haven is on conquest as a non-conquest enjoyer (though conquest on redacted is better than breakthrough)

[slow tulip]

Pubg?

[remote kiln]

only problem is it becomes unplayable immediately on anything but 128 players

[plain meadow]

then shrink it to +64 players only

[remote kiln]

cool map design, far too big practically

[proven saffron]

the three big boys (Shatterline,Apex, CSGO)

[plain meadow]

32v32

[junior galleon]

pubg has been dead for like 5 years

[remote kiln]

no but 128, 64 isn't enough

[royal swan]

forgot about pubg, yes its alive, it's number 7 on most players currently on steam

[plain meadow]

[velvet sand]

bruv you ain't seen the bently crossover in pubg mobile? shit's fire fam, their drip is rizzed out

[plain meadow]

yeah, u might be right

[velvet sand]

all the kids love legacy luxury brands

[amber kelp]

7th on steam rn

[drowsy rose]

[plain meadow]

unless it's somehow handled like Haven is

[drowsy rose]

Ah yes a noted cheater I get to see again

Unpunioshed

[proven saffron]

snuck in forknight like we wouldn’t notice bro

[plain meadow]

would still feel a bit shite

[remote kiln]

people thought the original hourglass map was a walking simulator, that original map concept would be far, far worse

[plain meadow]

it would be fine

that's like 5 maps in 1 right there

[tawny carbon]

they had to degrade it also due to last gen consoles

[royal swan]

it's still alive like huh

[amber kelp]

it is 2x the size of hourglass

[plain meadow]

i have played dayz

i'll manage

[remote kiln]

yes that's more outside this though

[junior galleon]

thats true actually, still very very popular in eastern populations but seems nobody in the west is playing it much or is too ashamed to admit it

[tawny carbon]

tru

[junior galleon]

should have clarified

[plain meadow]

What if this was a BR map tho

thoughs?

[proven saffron]

Shatterline is underatted

[royal swan]

I belive it was originally

[junior galleon]

then its total shit

[slow tulip]

Escape from Tarkov?

[plain meadow]

how so?

[amber kelp]

reached its peak like a year ago

[remote kiln]

if it was a br map it would work well

HZ works best on.. hourglass as is

[slow tulip]

But seriously, they shouldn't make a battlefield battle royal. They already have apex legends for battle royal. Just make an exception for battlefield

[amber kelp]

and IDK how the fuck looter shooters are "trending" theyre pretty much all dying on arrival

[remote kiln]

they were never dying

[plain meadow]

I'd still imagine 64v64 would work perfectly, but how the servers handle it, it would be shite, making it into a BR map would make it big, you just need some sort of way to pressure players into combat with each other

[remote kiln]

the established titles just became saturated

[proven saffron]

Play Shatterline if you dislike BR

[junior galleon]

bad map variety

[plain meadow]

+64 players if not +100 wouldn't be too bad

[velvet sand]

oh look, a mackay grapling hooked to the top of a building that he'd otherwise have no access to the roof of and c5's us

[remote kiln]

a genre dying is different to not releasing new iterations

[velvet sand]

man, I really hate this map already

[slow tulip]

Arc Raiders an extraction shooter by former DICE is getting hate

[plain meadow]

not really an argument but okay

[proven saffron]

💀

[amber kelp]

the new ones are dying on arrival. In fact, most ones released that arent Borderlands or Destiny rarely last a month

[junior galleon]

BR map thats all sand and tall building sounds boring as hell

[proven saffron]

Arc Raider’s isn’t made by DICE

[plain meadow]

every BR map is boring as hell

what's ur point

[amber kelp]

it has many former dice devs but since when was it getting hate?

[plain meadow]

If BR maps wasn't boring as hell, why would people complain about only playing ONE map

[junior galleon]

that it feels like it would be boringer as heller

[plain meadow]

still not an argument bruh

[remote kiln]

the actual "looter shooter" which popularised the concept the division is thriving as ever, and is coming out with a new game even, genre dying =/= peak saturation, they're very different conceptually

[junior galleon]

if u say so

[remote kiln]

destiny aswell

though bungie shenanigans*

[plain meadow]

aint no way destiny is peaking atm

[slow tulip]

Did you see the word "former"

[remote kiln]

lightfall met financial expectations, so that's all that matters basically

[amber kelp]

destiny is currently fucking miserable and Im fairly sure the game will implode after TFS
Also the division? Since when was that a huge trend

[plain meadow]

only game i see as a looter shooter might be Warframe which does exceptionally well atm

[amber kelp]

it did not

[proven saffron]

Why are the good games soo unpopular

[remote kiln]

it did.. not preorder numbers

[tawny carbon]

i dont see EA or dice on arc raiders

its being made by embark

[slow tulip]

It's the devs before BF5.

[royal swan]

"former"

[remote kiln]

wdym when? dude it's been a juggernaut for years lol

[plain meadow]

mighta backed out

[royal swan]

like bruh

[slow tulip]

Patrick Solderlund founded the studio

[plain meadow]

The division was quite huge on release, it just died fast because of the lack of content

[remote kiln]

the original division sold 20 million copies yk that right

[amber kelp]

the division 2 has a peak player count of 14k on steam. I honestly dont know what youre talking about

[remote kiln]

yes it's not a singular game dude

it's a franchise

[amber kelp]

one that has not been a "juggernaut" for a long time

[plain meadow]

you can play it on console, their own client and steam bruh

[remote kiln]

2019? do you know how many copies of the the division 2 sold even lol

[tawny carbon]

the game itself isnt linked to ea or die at all

[tacit sorrel]

Haven is literally just 24/7 stomps

[amber kelp]

steam charts is still a usefull metric

[plain meadow]

just because it shows 14k peak all time on steam, that doesn't necessarily mean it's their highest peak of players

hmm

naah

[tawny carbon]

only for steam kek

[slow tulip]

There are many former bf devs ended up there

[amber kelp]

morons. You compare the steam player count to other games.

[royal swan]

which contains majority of the playerbase

[remote kiln]

??

[royal swan]

steam is still a monopoly and the most used launcher on PC

[remote kiln]

don't call others morons when the majority play on uplay

[plain meadow]

what is bro smoking

[remote kiln]

what are you smoking

[plain meadow]

@amber kelp you do know the majority plays on uplay, right?

if not console?

[tawny carbon]

xbox and ps is majority of any game player bases

[plain meadow]

Steam isn't the majority of their players, it's the minority

[amber kelp]

Division 2: 10 million worldwide, this is an average ubisoft title

[slow tulip]

Steam players have grudge against Epic Games store

[remote kiln]

10 million was in its first month dude

lmao

[tacit sorrel]

Ps is usually the biggest player base

[remote kiln]

you understand the division literally established the concept of the genre

[plain meadow]

I don't even know how popular The Division is nowadays, i know people play it, but without an actual estimate on the game, it's hard to say

[amber kelp]

Borderlands and Destiny established the concept

[slow tulip]

Payday 3 is dead

[proven saffron]

Is Jackfrags paid by DICE?

[tawny carbon]

i play div games all the time kek

[plain meadow]

no

[slow tulip]

No, but he is in the Creator network

[plain meadow]

Jackfrags ain't sponsored or paid by EA

[remote kiln]

I think you need to understand your history

[velvet sand]

yeah, mackay is absolute bullshit on the new map and fucking breaks it so badly what the fuck

[remote kiln]

the division launched in 2016

destiny, was 2017

[tawny carbon]

^

[amber kelp]

Destiny released in 2014. Destiny 2 released in 2017

[junior galleon]

isnt the original destiny 2014

[plain meadow]

Destiny 2?

wasn't that earlier

[remote kiln]

the original destiny nobody cares about now

[amber kelp]

Borderlands released in 2009

[plain meadow]

Wasn't the original destiny better

[amber kelp]

arguably

[slow tulip]

Destiny 2 is quite successful. Bungle is also making a title for sony

[remote kiln]

yes it was, that's why it doesn't matter

[tawny carbon]

destiny 2 is way better than the first

[plain meadow]

i heard a lot of people loved destiny over destiny 2, but i guess it's something that can be argued yeah

depends on players taste

[amber kelp]

one of the most successful new IP launches of all time

shit at launch too

[plain meadow]

ngl nutter is right there

[amber kelp]

But certainly holds more sway than the fucking division

[plain meadow]

Destiny 2 was pretty big on launch

[gritty cypress]

that wizard came from the moon

[remote kiln]

sway in regards to what lmao

[plain meadow]

just playerbase

[amber kelp]

kickstarting the genre.

[plain meadow]

ehh

[gritty cypress]

borderlands?

[remote kiln]

kick-starting the genre?

[plain meadow]

nah y'all choking on the good shit

Warframe made looter shooter a thing

[remote kiln]

warframe is a weird one

yes but not for years really

[plain meadow]

Warframe is a banger game bruh

[amber kelp]

Warframe and Borderlands are the starting point, Destiny is when the genre got really big and likely inspired both the division and anthem

[remote kiln]

no it's an amazing game but it was never as popular back then as it is now

[plain meadow]

oh god anthem

[plain meadow]

i mean, u can say that about a lot of games tbf

sometimes, a game is like a fine wine, you let it be for years to be ready and kicking

[remote kiln]

you can't because games don't last over a decade historically, and get record numbers after that time

[plain meadow]

uhhh

[amber kelp]

"games" or "live services". Cause games definitley last decades

[remote kiln]

they die out

[plain meadow]

WoW, FFXIV genre, Runescape (OG) OSRS, Minecraft, Warframe (came out since 2013) league of legends (nuff said)

[remote kiln]

they do not, become more popular

[amber kelp]

they do, but slower than you expect. I can still play BF2 and thats not even on the EA app anymore

[remote kiln]

the closest would be world of warcraft really, and it didn't do that behaviour

[plain meadow]

tbf

Wow is a hit or miss for the most part

[amber kelp]

If a game has a server browser then it can last a very long time

[plain meadow]

it's like cod fans

we eat that shit no matter what // addicted

[tawny carbon]

2010-2014 destiny 1 development time. division 1 is 2013-2016 development time

[remote kiln]

WoW over the last few years had regressed massively which is why Warframe is a one of a kind relative to essentially every other game

[plain meadow]

I'd agree on that

[amber kelp]

interesting

[remote kiln]

which is why we now have a.. wow br

[plain meadow]

don't speak of it

don't say it's name

[remote kiln]

its so funny how can you not

[plain meadow]

please don't deco

[tawny carbon]

almost 2 years they didnt even know about each other

[plain meadow]

don't ruin my childhood game

[remote kiln]

I thought the dlcs would have done that themselves nevermind the br

[plain meadow]

ehh

[amber kelp]

a... fucking what?

[plain meadow]

most recently yeah

DF is a crap expansion

i'd rather play legion again

[remote kiln]

all that copium hype too

the revival of wow

what a mess

[remote kiln]

yup you heard right

[plain meadow]

ok ok, DF isn't a bad expansion persay it's better then SL by a mile, but they're playing it too safe atm

[gritty cypress]

everyone talkin about WoW and im just sat here playing EVE online which also is 20 years old 😄

[amber kelp]

[plain meadow]

nobody cares about eve

[gritty cypress]

I care 😠

[plain meadow]

that game is for 70 year old people

shits been out since WW2

[amber kelp]

isnt EVE the one where players have actual warlords and countries?

[plain meadow]

I only know it's about ships n shit

starships*

[royal swan]

that people no longer give a shit about

[plain meadow]

pretty much

[remote kiln]

need to time gate the content for another 2 weeks on launch so you don't cancel that subscription fee

[amber kelp]

yeah thats the ones. People have gone crazy in that game there are actual dictators

[gritty cypress]

thats probably a different one, but there is certainyl territory control in this too, with massive guilds 1000s strong

[plain meadow]

please stop

[remote kiln]

[white geyser]

Has anyone tried using the stealth bomber they added in this game?

[plain meadow]

i canceled my sub like 5 months ago haven't played it at all

[remote kiln]

isn't out till may

[royal swan]

eve fell off, its either star citizen or no man sky

[tawny carbon]

mid season

[plain meadow]

i do feel the urge sometimes, but then i think about doing m+ / mythic raiding and i just die inside

[amber kelp]

stealth bombers are out you just cant see them

[remote kiln]

you do my raids then your gear is useless for the next expansion

the wow recipe

[plain meadow]

next patch//

[remote kiln]

next patch*

[tawny carbon]

its gonna be ass anyway

[plain meadow]

It works well for wow ngl

[gritty cypress]

seeing as they added bombs to the stealth heli, i wonder what inappropriate feature the actual stealth bomber will have 🤔
railguns?

[white geyser]

Is it out the stealth bomber or not? you guys having mixed up

[plain meadow]

M+ is fun if you play with people, but raiding with 19 other people in some of the hardest content can be a draught

[tawny carbon]

no

[ebon pilot]

yes

[royal swan]

just like my motivation for finishing my grade recommendation, exam, and final project due on the same day. IM SO FUCKED

[ebon pilot]

you just can't see it

[amber kelp]

you cant see them because they are stealthy

[remote kiln]

2 hours for someone to step in the wrong place and wipe the group

that's wow 101

[plain meadow]

Pretty much

that's why i want 10 man raiding back

only 9 tards i gotta train to become actual chads

[remote kiln]

you'd think the keys of domination would be enough for people to go I'm done with this game but they just keep coming back

[plain meadow]

as i said

addiction

[amber kelp]

given my experience with Destiny I assume this is some severe sunk cost fallacy at play

[remote kiln]

I feel bad for you

[plain meadow]

i ain't addicted else i'd still play

[remote kiln]

it's sunk cost but way way worse

[junior galleon]

no

[thick tusk]

So how are we getting the lmg later? Another battle pass or just a free unlock or something?

[pale wadi]

ngl the new visual recoil is ass

[amber kelp]

The stealth bomber is out Im in it right now.

[remote kiln]

sunk cost if you played for 10 years+ paid $10/m for access and quitting means you'd feel like you lost everything

that's the wow formula

[plain meadow]

isn't wow 15 bucks for u muricans?

[pale wadi]

[plain meadow]

(assuming you're american)

[remote kiln]

idk how much it is tbh not American

think it's 15

[amber kelp]

ah so just Destiny but worse

[remote kiln]

yeah

[plain meadow]

15$ just to get raw fucked by their RNG system

[remote kiln]

you just need more wow gold

[plain meadow]

for 15$ i will fuck you but with lube instead

make it pleasant

[gritty cypress]

just gamble better!

[pale wadi]

[plain meadow]

Not gamble, rng

there's a difference

[gritty cypress]

ah, my mistake

[remote kiln]

well

[gritty cypress]

just rng better!

[remote kiln]

I mean

[amber kelp]

I am serious though, Destiny 2 is going to implode. Regardless of LF sales theyre total revenue is way below prediction, the company is facing a takeover, and the playerbase has a new sense of apathy Ive never seen before. Meanwhile theyre next expansion is a finale which will kill a lot of their momentum

[plain meadow]

in perspective it's the same, but there's a tiny difference

[remote kiln]

it can be gamble tbf lmao

[plain meadow]

not necessarily

[remote kiln]

if your raid leader decides to kill you for your gear then it's a half gamble

[plain meadow]

i meant loot drops not my gm killing me for fuck all reason

[remote kiln]

that's why wow is just one big casino

[plain meadow]

also if he dares to kill me for that fuck all reason i will get him back, even it cost me my CE

[tawny carbon]

PS is gonna kill destiny 2 if they take over

imma say it now

[plain meadow]

I've done that in 3 raid tiers

[remote kiln]

what's the trick they do now gazump you for your raid gear iirc

[plain meadow]

made sure my guild didn't get CE

[remote kiln]

that's vanilla too

you better not have played hc

[plain meadow]

vanilla is worse

[amber kelp]

if so, then its dying either way. The dam will burst with TFS

[plain meadow]

If you ain't got pre bis gear from previous raids or dungeons (before raid release) you ain't getting in

Unless you're a streamer (asmongold) who gets carried in any game he plays

[tawny carbon]

im just hoping bungie can pull through.

[remote kiln]

wow classic will save the franchise they definitely won't add any microtransactions.. whoops this mount now costs $20

[plain meadow]

bruh classic is not even classic

.#nochanges

[white geyser]

I'm gonna need 40 dollars so I can unlocked the sraw in the battle pass, better get to it

[plain meadow]

and it changed within 2 weeks of release

[amber kelp]

I dont think they can. I think their fate was sealed years ago tbh.

[remote kiln]

need a classic 2.0 to correct the original classic now

[plain meadow]

truee

[remote kiln]

I feel bad for people wanting the game to be like it was during their childhood, I don't feel bad for the folk still playing

[plain meadow]

Nostalgic can make people do whatever it takes to feel that way again

[tawny carbon]

it depends how FS does for bungie. if not PS will do anything to takeover

[remote kiln]

there was a guy in this server a while ago playing wow and it was the typical reaction you'd expect

[plain meadow]

what kind of reaction?

been out the loop for sometime

[remote kiln]

he was one of those evangelical players you come across from time to time

wow can do no wrong

[amber kelp]

even if FS is good, and thats still very up in the air, they dont have the reputation for it to be a wild success and many players will use the "finale" as a jumping off point.

[plain meadow]

oh, so a simp

i see

[remote kiln]

something something final fantasy does it so wow is better

exactly

I asked him about RMT and then he said i played? final fantasy for hating wow lmao

[tawny carbon]

bungie have plans for destiny 2 years from now. i have hopes for bungie.

[plain meadow]

I get what hes tryna say, but when you've been in this industry for years (gaming wise) u know companies will fuck up here and there

[remote kiln]

oh no no he was a streamer

that's why it was funny

[plain meadow]

oh no

not one of those

[remote kiln]

exactly one of those

[plain meadow]

so bros delusional and a simp

[remote kiln]

I went to check his stream just out of curiosity he was sitting afk typing here

[plain meadow]

what a fucking combination

[plain meadow]

I'd love to be here when it happened

i'd fuck with him so much make him angry af

[remote kiln]

it was like 2y ago now lmao I can't even remember his name

playing world of warcraft for 9 hours on his discord status was how I raised an eyebrow

[plain meadow]

oh my god

mans depressed surely

[remote kiln]

I'm convinced if you reach that point you've given up on doing anything

you're paying for that privilege too

[plain meadow]

sure

if u don't wanna do anything about it, it just cost time

someone actually said this quote to me once "the precious thing we have on this planet, is time" which is quite a valuable quote ngl and true

[remote kiln]

I half felt bad for him it felt like such a soulless existence having to devote your identity to a single game

[tardy tree]

so stadium is midseason lol

[remote kiln]

yes it's in may

[kindred flint]

lmao steam rolled on the US side...next game i cant even keep 2 as the RU

fuck that team this game isnt worth playing that much to sit there and lose the entire time

[tardy tree]

horrific

[velvet sand]

god every team I've had today sure has a drool bib permanently attached to all their shirts. i've never encounterd so many useless, oblivious players in my life. just ask for revives with 3 snipers on them, or watch a few enemies flank and light up 3 players while doing absolutely nothing to stop them, and then getting killed too.

[plain meadow]

Why didn't you just kill them?

[remote kiln]

[plain meadow]

Sounds like a skill issue

[velvet sand]

i did, but can't carry 32 useless fucks on my back. i'm not a pro gamer : (

[plain meadow]

Sure u can

Just hack

[gritty cypress]

just spawn as Lis and fly missiles at the snipers

[kindred flint]

its really fun when your squadmate cant once ping an enemy that just killed them

[plain meadow]

One of those mfs

[velvet sand]

breakthrough, bro. i love the worst fucking mode in the game

[plain meadow]

get out

[plain meadow]

that's rush bruh

[gritty cypress]

its a legitimate strategy endorsed by the game design 😁

[velvet sand]

maybe, I don't play rush. but I'll meme on how consistently bad BT layouts are for days

and how literally not a single map reveal has been from a BT perspective, all CQ

[plain meadow]

Lis missiles was definitely not supposed to be used vs snipers

[kindred flint]

dont be a camping worthless sniper then

[plain meadow]

And if it was, i hope whoever though of that, burns in a river of warm water

pee water

WARM PEE WATER

[wide shore]

Fun fact. Even in an empty private server collapsing a building on haven will crash your series x

Flawless update Ty dice

[arctic grove]

Knife gameplay best gameplay

[wide shore]

All it would take to eliminate half a lobby in Haven is to just destroy a building

[kindred flint]

cool, now if only the sph didnt have to hit a specific little spot on a wall to take out part of a building

[coarse elbow]

Is that why the lobbies suddenly get full of AI? LMFAO

[sly crag]

Why do they feel the need to leave out accuracy changes to aton of weapons out of the patch notes

[thick spruce]

nice that my character now has parkinsons while shooting you really improved gunplay here thank you

[wide shore]

Could be

[amber kelp]

tighter spread or wider spread?

[sly crag]

Definitely wider on plenty of weapons

[pliant nexus]

Is the new map still crashing Xbox’s?

[remote kiln]

#direct-communication

[dapper halo]

did they nerf the vcar?

why it has soo much recoil?

[ebon pilot]

it's visual recoil

it doesn't actually change the recoil pattern

[kindred flint]

could also be a scope bug too

[ebon pilot]

true

[sly crag]

All guns have changed visual recoil, but some clearly seem to have reduced accuracy

[dapper halo]

it literally broke the gun

and it has too much spread not just visual recoil

[sly crag]

People that have read the patch notes dont understand that they have left out stuff in the patch notes since like BF4 s its likely they've left out changes to accuracy

[dapper halo]

Any good guns to use after the update?

[sterile canyon]

where the bomber plane?

[remote kiln]

isnt till may

[sterile canyon]

so it's not ready yet?

[remote kiln]

i have no idea lol, it is releasing in patch 7.2, it said on the trailer

stadium and it are releasing together

[naive magnet]

This new map is not very good

I heard you like camping in buildings, so I made a map so you can camp in all the buildings and made it only tanks and a helicopter so you can get sniped every time you’re not in a building

[sterile canyon]

cause they might be op so they delay releaseing bomber and new lmg to balance it for sure

[kindred flint]

they dont care if somethings OP

half of the BP weapons have been blatantly broken at release...and same with a majority of the vehicles

[gray epoch]

MY FIRST MATCH TODAY, I MET A HACKER ALREADY WTF MAN

cyberpunker0921 his name

[naive magnet]

What type of hacker

What were they doing

[gray epoch]

walling

no recoil

[naive magnet]

I’ve only seen one legit hacker in a few hundred hours

[gray epoch]

maybe because ur not recon

[naive magnet]

Guy had the railgun and would one shot you if you were exposed

[gray epoch]

i followed him with my recon drone

[next onyx]

The EVO is more accurate than it lets on JFC.

[junior galleon]

most likely mostly if not completely ready but being spread out to try and keep engagement up

but thats just speculation

[robust vapor]

Road to T1 Evo, Way

[gray epoch]

this is why i hate pc bf

i wish i still have my console

[ebon pilot]

sometimes I wonder if people watching me play rao think im using wall hacks

[gray epoch]

no he legit waiting for me

not like pro pro

i was about to overtake a site alone with him

hes not going and looking at my direction

i saw him thru the drone

im sure 100%

[ebon pilot]

i mean because i often try to shoot people through walls because i can literally see them

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1098543930045370429/skill_issue.mp4?ex=66053b42&is=65f2c642&hm=3830e1734a63ded25202c876d40c44d6512164d02cbe9fb72b80db1e2a4c9423&

[gray epoch]

no, he was waiting like i said

not predict crowded area

thats freaking crowded bro

im at the edge of a map

i admit im puspus

he left the game after i caught him

[robust vapor]

Reminds me of the time I got stalked by a zain

Back on season 6 in Redacted

[keen basin]

Should I buy bf2042?

[robust vapor]

Yes

[keen basin]

[keen basin]

Like... just 1 word? XD

Despite the hate on release

[robust vapor]

Release and now are like 2 years apart

Surely you can't tell me that it will retain in the release state for years man come on

[keen basin]

It's much better I know, but idk how much better

Since I didn't follow the patches after a few months

[keen basin]

I can't believe it was 2 years ago, time flies man

[robust vapor]

If you wanna buy it now's a good time before the sale is off

[keen basin]

[sleek remnant]

does ultimate pack cosmetic not active yet?

I've bough one, but there's no exclusive cosmetic

[keen basin]

U bought the whole package?

[sleek remnant]

yes

[upbeat sand]

Where stadium

[keen basin]

Dem

Maybe I should too

[sudden ember]

BF games always have a rough launch iirc

just started playing again on PC, feels good to play a bf game again lol

[remote kiln]

its coming in may

[queen vessel]

can we actually play the new map? buddy was playing all day and never hit the map lol

[remote kiln]

theres playlists exclusively for the new map..

[gilded goblet]

Wats' the point of roa, legit no point

if u needs hacks to be good danm

Blasco best recon operator

Very biased ik!

[thick robin]

For Season 8, they could add the M32 MGL from BF4 as a gadget

[gilded goblet]

hhhmmm maybe....

[thick robin]

Ammo carrying capacity like that of the RGL-80

[lapis pebble]

why is the default c4 ammo changed to 2 instead of 3? hell we can't destroy a tank alone now without additonal ammo

[upbeat sand]

They would need to massively nerf it

[upbeat sand]

Engineer has 3 recon and assault has 2

[queen vessel]

i see it now wasnt showing up

[upbeat sand]

It's cause engineer is the vehicle specialist

[lapis pebble]

ohh, I get it that makes sense

[upbeat sand]

They're the vehicle support

And tank buster

Others having that amount is uncessecary

[vague horizon]

Dice wants engineers to be the ones to deal with vehicles primarily than the other classes

[upbeat sand]

I'm glad

Cause

Having 3 classes of 4

Being able to destory a tank solo is why

So you'll have to teamwork more

[lapis pebble]

understand only a engineer with his trait can destroy tank alone rest needs teamwork, i thought it was changed to 2 for all classes

[upbeat sand]

And a;so with the amount of aggro tanks get they will probably be on half health if they rush in

So

2 c5 should be enough if they're playing very in front

[thick robin]

EMKV-90TOR Canister Shot:

[vague horizon]

Also tanks dont have to worry about mines being thrown at them

[upbeat sand]

Mines always sucked anyway

[thick robin]

Arming delay

[upbeat sand]

The only times mines worked is of the map did

[thick robin]

It matters how and where you place them

[upbeat sand]

Like bfv twisted steel

[next onyx]

Mines are crazy.

Two hit killing armour.

[upbeat sand]

They 2 kill

Dam

Also I like the gear effect for vehicle spawn ins

[drowsy hamlet]

Who’s playing

[gilded goblet]

#lfg-crossplay

#lfg-xbox

[pseudo pecan]

im not noticing a difference in the recoil thing, anyone else?

[gilded goblet]

Yeah well dah

Visual recoil?

keep up

[hazy frost]

Can somebody explain

where the bonmber plane is

[remote kiln]

need to wait till may

[misty echo]

Is the game dead or what cause I can barely find a match on conquest

[cerulean forge]

bro

the sounds for the deagle and nvk s22 are the EXACT SAME

[wide hill]

its very late for the NA people and very early for EU

[unborn herald]

fam I was finally able to play breakthrough

it isn’t dead

[pseudo pecan]

so whats the new test range code? ABGRNR is not working

[misty echo]

Oh I see, it's just I'm from South Africa

And confused about this

[royal swan]

Bruh there's another fucking recoil bug

[spare quest]

Confused about timezones?

[next onyx]

ARe you surprised.

Really.

There's even a footstep bug.

[misty echo]

Ye

[royal swan]

I'm more surprised it's the same one from the past

like mf returned from the grave

[arctic grove]

New SMG fucks

[royal swan]

sup let me desync your recoil again bitch

[arctic grove]

New map fucks

Some of these servers rubberbanding sucks however

[arctic grove]

its all about that breakthrough right now

no problem finding those lobbies, theyre packed

[pseudo pecan]

where do you guys go to test the guns

[unborn herald]

for me kinda the opposite lmao

[next onyx]

I'm almost done.

[spare pasture]

Is it just me or is bt sided for the US

In haven

[drowsy tide]

Just play matches rly, only real way to find out if i like something is using it in the field

Should be pretty easy to determine if you like a weapon or not within a match or 2, hell my first match got me so hooked that i unlocked all of the Rorsch attachments from 0 in a single play session

[next onyx]

Woot woot.

[spare pasture]

I think you should go outside

[paper maple]

guys i brought bf 2042 for 6 dollars is it bad purchase

[next onyx]

That's a steal.

[paper maple]

will i regret it ?

i have seen very mixed reaction

and only played bf5 which is considered bad too

[next onyx]

Eh

Thing is.

For 6 dollars, If you don't like it. It's not like you'll lose a whole lot.

[paper maple]

i mean i have seen things like its just ai no destruction pure buggy etc

[next onyx]

It's gotten better.

[paper maple]

recently i mean tbh i am pretty sure when the next game comes people will love this game i swear

[drowsy tide]

2042 has come a long way its genuinely a pretty solid shooter atm

[paper maple]

i heard a lot of negative comments didnt buy it plus ea you know but i love battlefield a lot more than cod who increase their price on games and reskin the same game again and again so i buyed it

[gilded goblet]

Nice

U willl have a mixed experince with the game

[gilded goblet]

Excuse the voca

GO THE FUCK OUTSIDE! IT'S A WONDERFUL 18 DEGREES HERE IN MELBOURNE! TOUCH GRASS!!!!!!!!!!

[patent path]

18? that's too hot

[next onyx]

I've had a 3 hour sleep, had to deal with my extreme melancholy during work and just did this. I think I'm done for now.

I will need burrito.

[drowsy tide]

Nachos > Burrito tbh

[lilac dust]

Skorpion smg feels gooood

[gilded goblet]

it does

[upbeat sand]

i wish they would release maps on a scale like exposure

since all of em are more being flat and long

[lilac dust]

DICE ngl. Ya messed up by asking so many streamers to play a day before. Just watched AnneMuntion and KingGothalion play it and theres so many bots. Not a good way to promote the season for outsiders who dont play the game which is what their audiences consist of.

If all these streamers played on launch day it would be filled with real people. I was cringing for these streamers facing so many bots

[vocal tusk]

The stream event was for those streamers to make their audiences aware that the game just got a big update, and is still active. So that when the free weekend rolls around, more players...especially newer players to the franchise will think about giving it a try.

[lilac dust]

The free period still hasnt started tho. Launch day wouldve been a perfect day for them all to promote it and not have to face bots everywhere which turns so many outsiders off

[orchid tusk]

well they could have invited the streamer's friends or at least enough of them to fill a server for them to get some footage and forge some early thoughts

[lilac dust]

But like why even go through so much stress to try and get 64 streamers to all play the same time

[karmic egret]

Fuck it - DICE

[lilac dust]

It clearly didnt work. So for season 8 just do it on launch day to minimize stupid shit like hoards of bots roaming around

[karmic egret]

Yeah it was a bit goofy

Apparently recoil is broken again

[queen violet]

Hows the one new map going

Is it everything. You expected. From the new devs 😂

[karmic egret]

Its Fine get a whole squad with c5

And watch them get squished

I do be making fat revives though

[karmic egret]

Do y'all hear something

[rare dragon]

It's funny how some type here just to troll

[robust vapor]

Bro played whole day

💀

I should've taken the day off

[karmic egret]

Mate please touch grass I beg you

No hate or anything

Pls don't ban me

[patent path]

no ban him

[arctic grove]

Guys

Did they remove weather affects for the new season?

[vocal tusk]

So is the recoil bug people are talking about the iissue where if youre looking down and shoot, you cant adjust the recoil at all sometimes?

[lilac dust]

Theyve abandoned weather events completely

[pastel surge]

guys does anyone know why I start loading into map then get returned to the main menu? (2042)

[arctic grove]

So just ruined the fukin game

😞

[chilly jacinth]

weather events still happen on the maps theyve always happened on

[arctic grove]

Oh good

[vocal tusk]

Eh, no...just the new map doesnt have a weather event

[arctic grove]

Oh oki I’m fine with that

Thought they removed them all together

[ancient peak]

New map seems Ight

[vocal tusk]

Can confirm thats not the case lmao

[lilac dust]

Well yeah I mean 128 conquest is still available on season 0-4 maps but they have abandoned that too. Thats all i meant. Abandon as in left the old there and not bothered creating any new ones

[chilly jacinth]

theyve shifted focus to 64p maps

since you know

people didnt like 128p

[modest ivy]

I like 128

[lilac dust]

Same

[arctic grove]

How the new season feeling?

[modest ivy]

If they made the newest map twice as wide and a little deeper I'd be very pleased

[vocal tusk]

The maps are fine...at least some of them. Infact some 128 layouts are far superior to their 64P counterparts (Breakaway, orbital, kaleidoscope...ETC). The reason I dont like 128 is worse hitreg, and in general too much "chaos"

[lilac dust]

The majority of people who asked for 128 to go away dont even play the game anymore. This is the problem. Sure plenty people in this server dont like it but I can assure you there are a fuck ton of people who only play 128 conquest and are gutted its not being supported anymore

[clever spear]

128 ftw.

[lilac dust]

I can literally get full lobbies ZERO bots on 128 conquest every day with CROSSPLAY TURNED OFF. If that doesnt indicate how many people love 128 conquest i dont know what would lol

[modest ivy]

I hate the 64p variants of the base maps. They feel tiny and forgotten. And if I want to have the chance of every playing Reclaimed on normal AOW I'll have to live with the fact that I may have to play conquest 64 on the base maps

[lilac dust]

Yes yes yes and yes

I never bother with the 64p playlist because i dont want to sift through so many terrible layouts

[pine roost]

Which is why we need to be able to SELECT MAPS TO PLAY

[modest ivy]

Reclaimed is fucking awesome, it's just accompanied with with terrible layouts

[vocal tusk]

Player numbers didnt lie tho...in those weeks where CQ64 wasnt available...you could literally see in steam player count that the players werent playing

[pine roost]

I like both, but if you just want to play the 64 specific maps, you have no chance

[lilac dust]

Steam is an absolutely tiny fraction of the overall player count of the game.

[vocal tusk]

Sucks for people who prefer 128 of course...but it is what it is

[lilac dust]

How many times do i have to say that to this day I can STILL play FULL lobbies with CROSSPLAY OFF on PS5

[vocal tusk]

Ok

[lilac dust]

Console playerbase is huge

[vocal tusk]

you only needed to say it once. Nothing you say is going to affect 128P maps, be it in this game or the next.

[lilac dust]

DICE ruined the game because a few thousand PC players dont like 128

[vocal tusk]

"Because making 128P maps took too much time, resources and money for an already dwindling playerbase post launch"

Exposure took 9 months to make, based on the interview they did

[half brook]

I can’t even load into a game on Xbox man what is this

[vocal tusk]

they already announced that the game needs a hotfix update to fix the xbox issues. #direct-communication

[half brook]

I saw them mention issues with crashing when trying to load up the new map but the issue I’m experiencing is different. I’m searching for normal Conquest and as soon as I start loading into the map I get kicked back to the main menu

[stone grove]

how i can contact mods on this server?

[arctic grove]

The issue with 128 isnt just people not liking it. Its the Frostbite engine having limits. How many assets (for cover and so forward) it can have while dealing with more players without it tanking. Shame because they could pull it of like Battlebit with 254 per sever but thats cus its not graphically intense. Shame they made this game for Lastgen when calling it the NEXT generation FPS could have been a lot different if they just focused on newgen and pc in terms of map limit (a lot could have been different in general but it is what it is)

[lilac dust]

Adding a few more objectives isnt that much to ask. They dont need to make the maps THAT much bigger. Redacted is incredibly rich in detail. It oozes not being held down by costs and dwindling playerbase worries. Just a few more objectives would suffice to make it 128 friendly

[upbeat sand]

Why do falk players who use the skull skin have brain rot

Like

[vocal tusk]

Redacted is also incredibly small

[modest ivy]

@clear spade is probably the best way to contact those weirdos

[upbeat sand]

I am in behind, In front, beside you 0m away

Revive

Stop self healing

[vocal tusk]

Same with Haven, thats the only reason why they are able to make them as detailed as they are

[stone grove]

im not a member how i can do this

[modest ivy]

Just dm the bot

[lilac dust]

And season 1-4 had some great maps. It was only going to get more and more refined as the seasons went on. Yes the engine cant handle pre rework hourglass or breakaway, but look at those maps now. They play amazingly

[stone grove]

You haven't been a member of the server for long enough to contact modmail yet

[pine roost]

‘Crouch walks away’

[upbeat sand]

Ok I was kinda joking but that's what literally just happened to me

[modest ivy]

Then you need to wait a few minutes

[upbeat sand]

Like 2 mins ago

[stone grove]

okey thank you

[slim hound]

the new map is so dank it's the most dank map in the whole game