battlefield-2042

[junior galleon]

im in the minority who thinks bf4 is just alright

[kindred flint]

hey i was happy the 2 times i spawned on a contested E flag as a US side player i put me more into the city lol..

[kindred flint]

it way over hyped lol

[arctic grove]

Most people think it’s good except for absolute elitists which unironically don’t tend to be anyone

[junior galleon]

for real... its a B tier battlefield with lots of past troubles everyone thinks is the best ever

[arctic grove]

Like as a game it’s completely fine so I mean i enjoyed it, obviously some people say it’s the absolute best but they do that with any game

[kindred flint]

i really love the "bf4 has so many guns!" argument from people as to why its amazing...

[ashen siren]

Haven's spawns are bloody awful. You're either miles away from any action and have to play a "walking sim", or you're put directly in amongst enemy hosing you down the second you appear.

[chilly jacinth]

99% reskins

epic variety

[arctic grove]

Just a fun military themed shooter really

[next onyx]

The only people that actually talk about bf4 all the time and constantly reference it are the ones unable to move on from it.

[drowsy shuttle]

Anybody having matchmaking error?

[kindred flint]

you mean the mg5 and m60 werent identical?

[arctic grove]

It’s crazy how the times are tho when people complain about “reskins” and now we play games in a time where you barely get content lmao

[drowsy shuttle]

Shots fired lol

[ashen siren]

I had that heaps lastnight. I'm not even bothering to play this game for a few days until they can get their shit together

[arctic grove]

I like it but i played it so much i got bored

And then there’s the locked fov that i deal with so…

[next onyx]

Oh man.

I tried bf4 on console again and I can't deal with the deadzones.

Fov is fine. Dead zones were not.

[drowsy shuttle]

I'm having that right.. happened twice so far..

[arctic grove]

Dead zones?

[drowsy shuttle]

Zones that died

[arctic grove]

[drowsy shuttle]

[woven lava]

Is there a new vehicle ?

[kindred flint]

mid season there will be

[queen violet]

get ya self on the game and see if the new vehicle is there lol

[ashen siren]

Literally months away, when they've already had 6months to do that...so 9months in reality

[queen violet]

i dowt it is there

[junior galleon]

to be fair, im unable to move on from things too...

[harsh sluice]

is it worth buying the 20 dollar ultimate pack or should i just stick with the normal 10 dollar BP?

[last willow]

This sure happened to me this morning but yeah it's map design, just urban and I thought "I'm just not used to this because we haven't had it in 2042 yet"

[kindred flint]

yes, this is how content gets stretched out

[queen violet]

so when is the stadium out may?

[last willow]

There's so many places people can be and it's not a huge map

[kindred flint]

dont think they said specifically when

[ashen siren]

Don't give them a cent dude...you're just encouraging this nonsense by doing that

[junior galleon]

classic battlefield gameplay

[kindred flint]

but trust, gotta give it a little bit more time to bake, stadium gunna be lit

[harsh sluice]

what XD

[next onyx]

@arctic grove deadzones is something like the input required to make an action.

So err

Say you want to move forward. Your stick will need to be half way to make the action.

[drowsy shuttle]

Let's be honest here.. nobody thought they would make more than 4 seasons.. everybody thought EA would pull the plug after the 4 planned seasons.. and yet here we are... yes the content is not that much or ground breaking.. but it's something.

[next onyx]

It's mostly for stick drift but at a higher level you become way more reactive.

[harsh sluice]

THANK YOU, thats exactly how i feel

[next onyx]

At least you acknowledge it.

[ashen siren]

Spending any money other than the base-game. It just encourages this bad practice to keep milking the cow, and is cancer for games in general

[kindred flint]

took basically all 4 seasons to fix the game

[queen violet]

seasons lmao.. trash bring back the oldskool DLC 4 maps every 3 months

[arctic grove]

But in general BF4 is a nice game, though something i noticed especially with newer BF players or at least people who wanna defend a particular specific game is they go back to try a particular praised game out, don’t have some spiritual revelation then turn around and pretend it’s “bad” or just shit on it

[fading hawk]

Currently playing redacted at 128 players and I think I’m either going to have PTSD, hearing damage or both lmao. Absolutely mental shenanigans.

[arctic grove]

Oh i see what you mean now

[strange sentinel]

then they made the gunplay shit again lol

[arctic grove]

Was there any options for you to maybe reduce them

[rotund kite]

I'm gonna be honest I'm having a hard time finding people to shoot at in the new map
it's an urban map, pretty cool but I can't get past 15 kills per match

[next onyx]

Nah. Bf1 was the first game that gave us that option.

[drowsy shuttle]

No thanks. 500 boins

[kindred flint]

thats been the BF cycle as of recently, make good-make shit again- then fix to good

[gritty cypress]

Hey guys... how do we play redacted now? 🤔
Like I don't really want to play any other map, have I got to go back to cancelling matchmaking every time it tries to put me in a map I don't want to play? in 2024? 🙃

[next onyx]

Oh WAIT

I just remembered levii.

[drowsy shuttle]

Play breakthrough

[arctic grove]

Here’s the thing though, if games released properly those 4 seasons could be used to give you way more, the idea is players should probably raise their standards

[next onyx]

There was a super old exploit on xbox you could actually extract your player settings and reduce your deadzones and computer and reapply it.

I think the reason why you can't do it anymore is because of encryption.

[ashen siren]

Unfortunately yes. Some fuckhead decided that we aren't allowed to choose what map we play...they know best for us

[chilly jacinth]

my standards for bf have been in the dump since bf4

[kindred flint]

imagine that...most people want to play a map with no vehicles

[chilly jacinth]

aka my first proper bf game

[queen violet]

redacted was my fav map shame they never doubled it in size and made it 128

[ashen siren]

BF1 was awesome

[arctic grove]

If your standards were in the dump BF4 post not broken and with BF1 then i mean

[tawny carbon]

12k boins gone, but T100 already

[arctic grove]

Damn i guess lol

[chilly jacinth]

i didnt enjoy bf1 at all

[arctic grove]

[chilly jacinth]

played the beta and had enough of it

[queen violet]

bf1 was great fun

[ashen siren]

I played BF1 for essentially 2yrs during the Melbourne lockdowns. 😛

[ashen siren]

That's the thing...it was actually FUN to play

[drowsy shuttle]

What the...? Lol

[queen violet]

what was that mode it had

[tawny carbon]

boins boins boins

[next onyx]

The bf5 beta made me realise how cringe bf1's balancing decisions were.

[chilly jacinth]

bro wtf

[ashen siren]

Yeah you really missed-out by not giving it a chance dude...probably the most fun bf to play

[arctic grove]

Is pretty fun

[rotund kite]

I tried but then the game is to quick lol
defending side is very weak, and there's always good players to push sector one after another

[chilly jacinth]

beta was enough

[arctic grove]

It’s my 2nd favorite game in the series

[queen violet]

Operations

[next onyx]

Bf5 despite all its issues gameplay wise I loved to bits because it was the first game I took seriously in a very long time.

[queen violet]

that was the shit

[chilly jacinth]

tried it years after again

[next onyx]

And I actually improved as a player

[chilly jacinth]

still not enjoyable

[arctic grove]

So probably around like 5 hours of playtime or so

What game is enjoyable if you barely learned how to actually play it lol

[chilly jacinth]

its bf not rocket science

[next onyx]

I feel like you'd enjoy the game purely for what it is.

[arctic grove]

I mean if you don’t like it that’s obviously fine but there’s that and barely even having played a game

[chilly jacinth]

i played the fuck out of the beta

[arctic grove]

That’s a beta tho, and we know the reputation of BF betas

[rotund kite]

btw, anyone who bought the gamepass are the SCZ and the 5C broken like the vhx was?

[junior galleon]

same for me ngl with bf5, played the beta and never bought it until like 2020 or 2021 when it was on a discount, played two matches and a firestorm game and then never touched it again

[next onyx]

Bf1 had its fair share of cringe mechanics.

[arctic grove]

Sure but there’s still balancing and flow to adjust to that tends to be different

[chilly jacinth]

i enjoyed hardlines beta more than bf1s

[arctic grove]

Also I’m just speaking in general i mean I don’t really care what you like tbh

[arctic grove]

I guess that’s every battlefield at least to me, there’s always something that’ll piss me off or make me roll my eyes

[queen violet]

bad comapany 2 alpha demo.. played 190 hours on that .. best demo of all bfs bc1 was great aswell

[fading hawk]

Brother redacted on 128 players is worse than metro.. max tickets. I swear I have tinnitus.

Like an actual warzone

[arctic grove]

BF1s more popular complaints tend to be things I can play with and not really be bothered by. Post bf1 battlefields balance and design decisions got a lot more in your face

Like one thing I didn’t personally like being in a battlefield game was attrition

[junior galleon]

i thouht bf1 was one of the best battlefields until i played other battlefields lol

[tawny carbon]

the true t100 skip to T1 badge

[fading hawk]

BF1 lived up to its hype

[next onyx]

I said it earlier but I remember. Straight from the bf5 beta I opened bf1, immediately got spawn killed by a villar perosa sentry and uninstalled the game.

[arctic grove]

[fading hawk]

The last good battlefield

[nocturne locust]

BF5 was great until hackers ruined it.

[next onyx]

I'd rather deal with bf5 mmg cringe cause at least they weren't protected.

[arctic grove]

I find BF1 elites tolerable since they tend to have very limited vision and movement

[fading hawk]

I feel 2042 will suffer a similar fate

[acoustic seal]

do you feel a sense of pride and/or accomplishment

[patent pivot]

At least we got bots

[fading hawk]

BF4 has only survived due to custom servers and punkbuster being quite rigorous

[tawny carbon]

yes

[next onyx]

I don't feel that's a downside to be honest.

[arctic grove]

I mean I’m guessing you prefer BF3 and older cause BFV and 2042 are pretty cursed as well

[next onyx]

U.S players aren't particularly hard.

[ashen siren]

I gave up on BF5 early on, and stopped playing games in general for ages. When I returned to play, hackers had ruined it, so haven't bothered playing ever since

[fading hawk]

Plus there’s a whole ban network thing where you can’t make a second account or custom server anti cheat will get ya.

[acoustic seal]

don't memory hole how bad player visibility was (and still is!)

[fading hawk]

Way ahead of its time

[arctic grove]

I get what you mean, they’re still armored so running into one makes you play a lot differently than with anyone else

[patent pivot]

WR will change bf4

[fading hawk]

WR?

[tawny carbon]

WR is the future for battlefield

[fading hawk]

I don’t know what it is

[arctic grove]

Visibility and attrition are why I personally stay away from bfv

[drowsy shuttle]

World Record

[arctic grove]

It’s weird cause you can get away with max or at least high fov in 2042 (when I played) and BF1. In V you won’t see shit

[tawny carbon]

https://warsaw-revamped.com

[fading hawk]

I play with max FOV if I did that on V it would be like looking through a fisheye lense.

[tawny carbon]

BF3 VU but better

[acoustic seal]

2042 would be just as bad as bf5 if they didn't give you auto-spotting or whatever

[fading hawk]

Warp speed

[acoustic seal]

the proximity dorito

[arctic grove]

I think BF1 and to a degree 2042 can be easier to see enemies in cause 3d spotting

[acoustic seal]

• the glowstick

[fading hawk]

Aye I hope this picks up steam that’s absolutely awesome.

[arctic grove]

Yeah the infamous Doritos

[fading hawk]

I miss the Doritos

Spotting in general

Shame it’s only limited to your squad

[tawny carbon]

wym steam?

[next onyx]

Unfortunately for me their health model isn't consistent. It's literally shoot them first you die anyways.

[fading hawk]

Momentum

Is BF1 still playable or has it succumb to cheaters?

[acoustic seal]

NA is on life support, EU should be fine

[tawny carbon]

o everything is customizable to your liking for the server or play standard offical servers. it also have 128p support with ai bots

[fading hawk]

Is it popular or is it like a brand new thing?

[arctic grove]

Yea I see what you mean. One of the more tolerable elites is probably the tank hunter

[ashen siren]

The key is finding good servers...there's a few out there that have mods who kick/ban cheaters straightaway, making it still very much playable.

[tawny carbon]

still in development we dont when release as of rn

still under NDA

[arctic grove]

I feel like elites were an interesting way to balance stuff you’d normally find as a pickup weapon

[patent pivot]

Been in development for at least... 5 years ago

[next onyx]

Console bf5 is superior over pc. I just wish they updated the graphics.

[fading hawk]

I don’t know why they did away with baked in custom servers and pushed portal.. really a shame that you can’t just use a server browser like BF4.

[next onyx]

They were alright. Certainly cool.

[ashen siren]

Yep, totally agree with you!

[arctic grove]

Rendering is really weird with that game on console, I’m assuming it has to do with the fact that bfv came out around the end of the last gen consoles lifespans so that’s how they optimized the game for them

[next onyx]

Yeah that's it really.

[fading hawk]

It’s like they tried to design a server browser but for some reason put it into its own menu item and category instead of into a “play now” button or something.

[next onyx]

It's a shame really with this cause the model for the EVO is amazing.

[fading hawk]

Hopefully the new one being released sometime in 2025 will mean that we will surpass the usual “support for last gen” model and it’ll only support PS6-Xbox and PC

[arctic grove]

I hope so as well

[junior galleon]

yeah pretty much. bf3, bc2, and ocassionally some bf2 and bf vietman bot matches (since i suck at them) are what i orefer

and i started with bf1 so take that as you will

[chilly jacinth]

its being developed for xbox s/x and ps5

[fading hawk]

Why tho

[ivory canopy]

I just looked

BF2042 takes up 145 GB of space on my SSD

[chilly jacinth]

do you really think ps6 and next xbox hardware is finalized?

[fading hawk]

Thats holding your development back for what will be 5 year old tech.

[ashen siren]

Hopefully! It's not reasonable to run old-gen hardware and expect to play next-gen games.

[chilly jacinth]

you cant develop for something that doesnt exist yet

[vocal tusk]

No, PS6 tech isnt even released yet. the hardware it will run

[next onyx]

The series x and ps5 aren't old consoles.

[arctic grove]

I see what you mean

[vocal tusk]

On PC?

[nocturne locust]

I don't think next gen console will be coming out anytime soon... I mean... PS5 is barely having any games released this year.

[ivory canopy]

Oh wait. It did that while installing the update.

I'm dumb

[arctic grove]

I honestly assumed he meant ps5 and Xbox s/x

[fading hawk]

4 years old at this point

[ivory canopy]

rn it's 86.8 GiB

[arctic grove]

But probably another 4-6 yrs till the next consoles

[junior galleon]

they are middle aged

[ashen siren]

There's an upgraded PS5 due to drop in the near future...aparently is slays the current one

[chilly jacinth]

there will be a hardware refresh between that

like the ps4 pro

was

[next onyx]

Again. They're not old.

[nocturne locust]

i bet ps6 will be around 2027 or 2028 lol

[fading hawk]

Middle aged as someone said above

lol

[next onyx]

Midgen ps5 is funny as hell.

[vocal tusk]

Series S will still hold back this generation.

[ivory canopy]

When will Nintendo just start devving for PC?

[next onyx]

Never.

[fading hawk]

Maybe they’ll wait on newer consoles for GTA 6 release and then it’ll probably be an exclusive of some sort.

[next onyx]

Unfortunately.

[queen violet]

the world might be ended by 2027 lol

[ivory canopy]

Sad reality

[vocal tusk]

GTA 6 releases next year tho

[arctic grove]

PS5 and Xbox xs still seem new to me if anything shit

[ivory canopy]

Hmm...

[ashen siren]

Timing-wise, it makes sense. If feel like that's exactly what they're doing.

[ivory canopy]

The S7 backdrop for the main menu looks suspiciously like that of S6

[vocal tusk]

From experience...never.

[next onyx]

There's a stigma I've overheard is that over in Japan they believe pc is piracy central or some dumb shit.

[fading hawk]

[chilly jacinth]

ps5 was basically unobtanium not long ago

[vocal tusk]

Well that was over 2 years ago now

[arctic grove]

That’s probably why the ps5 still feels “new” to me, considering the launch was so weird

[chilly jacinth]

thats like yesterday

[fading hawk]

I’m still rocking my RTX 2080 TI so hopefully the new GTA 6 and even Battlefield won’t be too taxing

[next onyx]

I still remember some ps5 scalper talking shit and then they got robbed.

[arctic grove]

[fading hawk]

For some reason I have a PS5 controller. I can’t remember where I got it from.

I play on PC

[arctic grove]

Your house was right over its spawn point

[vocal tusk]

I upgraded to 7900x/4090. So I'm probs good for the next 6 to 8 years.

[fading hawk]

Hell yeah. Like some sort of black hole for consoles.

[fading hawk]

Nice

I’m rocking an i9900k and an RTX 2080TI

I think redacted 128 players pushed it a little too far

[vocal tusk]

Nice. I used to have a 9900k a few years ago, swapped from it to 5900x

[gilded goblet]

I am rocking a PS5 with 4TB and a pro controller with a really big Oled moniter

[fading hawk]

Sounds very cosy

I’ve always wanted an OLED monitor

[patent pivot]

I just upgraded to r5 3600 and rtx 2070

I'm good for now

[arctic grove]

I got 2tb

[vocal tusk]

I've kinda been waiting for decent OLED screens without reports of burn in.

[arctic grove]

I can’t imagine what I’d have to play to fill up 4tb unless I just basically never deleted games as I got and played new ones

[fading hawk]

Phone companies have managed it so it shouldn’t be too long before others follow suit

[ashen siren]

I'm rocking a 7800X3D, 4070ti OC, and a 32" IPS monitor.

[vocal tusk]

I think phone panels would have burn in if left on a static image for hours tho

[ashen siren]

Will be upgrading GPU later and getting a bigass oled

[fading hawk]

I tried going higher than a 24 inch monitor but having to turn my head to look across my screen was jarring.

[gilded goblet]

trust it's great

[vocal tusk]

Which is my main worry on a windows machine. I don't want a task bar burnt in to my monitor lol

[gilded goblet]

cosy?

u mean costly?

[next onyx]

I could probably go 4k and get a better processor for the purposes of emulation.

[fading hawk]

Both

[junior galleon]

my "monitors" are a 10+ year old gateway monitor with an adapter to hdmi and some cheap ass tv in 1280 x 720 (it has nice colors tho)

[gilded goblet]

ok

[fading hawk]

Hey if it works

[vocal tusk]

I'm quite happy at 27" 1440p tbh.

[fading hawk]

I have some floppy disks sat on my desk

[ashen siren]

I have some hidden away in a box somewhere...heck I've even got a zip-drive!

[tawny carbon]

velocity but ads acc finna be lit

[fading hawk]

Multicoloured

[next onyx]

Don't think my dad still has the floppy discs for doom.

[junior galleon]

hell yeah

[next onyx]

My mum would know where they would be but what happened was so long ago

[fading hawk]

Mine are unused and mint so I’m sure they are worth about $1

[vocal tusk]

That ROF hit tho

[split ember]

Man you know, this new map could have easily been expanded for a 128 player version

[vocal tusk]

Na, it's messy as is even at 64. 128 would be unplayable

[dull hawk]

I agree.

[vocal tusk]

Sure they could have made it differently to accommodate 128,but the 128 experiment I think is over.

[split ember]

By expanding the map

Not at the same size

There's a lot of potential in there

[vocal tusk]

Sure, but they don't make 128 maps anymore.

[fading hawk]

It’s very open

[ashen siren]

128 was no good...nice idea but poorly executed, and it can rip and never come back

[split ember]

I know, which is crappy because one of the reasons I bought 2042 was because of 128 player maps 🤣

[patent pivot]

I bought the game for portal

Yet I was betrayed

[ashen siren]

The map is a sniper-fest...

[fading hawk]

I think it could’ve done with some polish before they released it

[split ember]

Nah I love 128 player map

[queen violet]

the game was advertised as 128 player

[ashen siren]

The usual half-arsed rush job

[vocal tusk]

64 is more than enough imo. Doubling the player count has some very bad effects on the games hit reg, performance and stability.

[drowsy shuttle]

They buffed the ac 42?

[fading hawk]

This new update has made the G428 absolutely insane.

[split ember]

Exactly. And then to backtrack over that. Not a good sign

[vocal tusk]

Nerfed and buffed it. Rebalanced would be the term I guess.

[queen violet]

if the game was advertised as 64 we should get 4 maps per season..

[dull hawk]

I think if they made more maps like Gulf of Oman or Dawnbreaker it would be cool and add more variety to urban combat

[queen violet]

they scammed us

[fading hawk]

Dawnbreaker would be nice

[dull hawk]

Those maps were great in BF4

[fading hawk]

Gulf of omen

[vocal tusk]

Scammed the 10 players who like 128 player messes of servers and maps. Agreed.

[fading hawk]

The whole back to karkand

[zealous sail]

Hello guys. Do you know maybe why if im playing with bots (for unlocking stuff, cause last time im played 1/1,5 year ago) game laging? When im unlock net_graph (perfoverlay.drawfps 1) on category "sim" im have this stats on 20 yellow. In online game, i dont have any issue, lags. This stats on "sim" is green, small number.

[split ember]

Meanwhile Planetside 2 could have 2000 players on one map

[fading hawk]

I assume because it was originally a BR and they changed it last minute

[vocal tusk]

Bot games run at half the server hz and tickrate

[split ember]

And here we have DICE getting scared of doing 128 players lmao

[fading hawk]

They trialed it in BF3 or something didn’t they? Or was that 64?

[patent pivot]

And they're scared of 64 rush

[vocal tusk]

Not scared, but they should just go back to what they know. Which is 64 player maps.

[split ember]

Nah that's BS

[patent pivot]

Why they scared of 64 rush

[queen violet]

its like going out for a 16oz steak dinner and them bringing you a bacon sandwich lol

[patent pivot]

They did 128 rush

Yet no 64

What's their logic

[dull hawk]

128 sounds cool but it leads to spawn traps and stalemates

[fading hawk]

There isn’t any

[vast wedge]

Hey! if im using the wrong channel for this my appologies but has anyone had any problems with their ingame friends list, PC list and EA list, showing 0 online and not being able to invite people to your party??

[split ember]

Cause DICE of today is definitely not the DICE of before.

[ashen siren]

Player count in Oceana is so bad, that games are consistently filled with bots...without them, no game-modes would be possible to play. That there is how dead this game is

[patent pivot]

I know that

[fading hawk]

The DICE of before have gone

[split ember]

Almost every crucial member has left

[vocal tusk]

"It sucks, so we don't want to do it." 128 rush is a meme mode.

[patent pivot]

Where the vehicle variety in rush

[fading hawk]

I don’t think they have a single previous dev now bar a few people that recently came back.

[patent pivot]

Huh

[vocal tusk]

Name 3

[patent pivot]

What about that

[queen violet]

i remeber once i went to a party mate said there was going to be a ton of birds there .. well.. one fat bird sat on a chair.. lol a ton of birds

[fading hawk]

EA-Steve

[vocal tusk]

Who?

[fading hawk]

Idk

lol

[split ember]

Half of them are on Embark

Like Just play The Finals

[vocal tusk]

There are 22 ex dice devs at embark

[fading hawk]

And the old BF lead has his own studio

Swedish dude

[vocal tusk]

The guy who was creative director of 2042 you mean?

[fading hawk]

Yes

[next onyx]

They're all fuckin Swedish.

[fading hawk]

He has a complicated name

[split ember]

And then The co-creator of Halo who was given the reigns also left and also badmouthed EA lol

[next onyx]

Sorry but dude that makes me laugh.

[vocal tusk]

So...you think the person who led 2042 into launch is the person the franchise needs to stay afloat?

[next onyx]

Ah yes. The one Swedish guy at DICE hahaha.

[fading hawk]

No I was saying he has his own studio now

[next onyx]

As long as Vince is the lead I don't care.

You mean Patrick soderlund.

[fading hawk]

He left after BF1

Yes

[woven sonnet]

new smg is niceeee

[vocal tusk]

And David Sirland is back, so those 2 still there and I'm happy enough.

[vast wedge]

is anyone having an issue with joining parties or have heard of people havimg this probelm in the past?

[kindred flint]

has there been literally any info from sirland?

[next onyx]

Patrick had his head screwed on as well.

Uh

[kindred flint]

or is he just...working on the next game to milk the player base?

[vocal tusk]

He is working on the next game

[split ember]

I just hope Criterion isn't going the same direction

[kindred flint]

ok thats what i thought

[split ember]

Another excellent studio

[next onyx]

Wait I registered that as Patrick sirland.

[fading hawk]

He was a multiplayer producer during BFV so my enthusiasm is little rn.

[next onyx]

As long as demize99 isn't on the dev team things are pretty hopeful anyways.

I forgot his actual name.

[fading hawk]

Who

[next onyx]

ALAN KURTZ.

[fading hawk]

Ah

[next onyx]

He pushed the 5.2 weapon patch on bf5.

[fading hawk]

Doesn’t sound Swedish

[drowsy shuttle]

Ac 42 feels weird

[fading hawk]

Embark is basically DICE now

[kindred flint]

then gets shit canned from his job..and says something cryptic about isnt it strange the mp director doesnt have control over the mp aspect of the game so anyways hes hired back 2 years later

[vocal tusk]

IMO, the team at dice have done a relatively good job with what they had to do with 2042. Sure content (Maps and weapons) has been WAY below what I wanted, but quality wise, and the way they changed the game bit by bit was pretty well done.

[ashen siren]

People don't leave bad jobs, they leave bad bosses.

[fading hawk]

Very true

[next onyx]

I don't he got canned he just left out of frustration bmac.

[fading hawk]

Game wasn’t exactly going through a grace period back then

[vocal tusk]

They leave bad environments. You can have a great direct boss and job...but a very stressful life because of the work environment/ethos.

[split ember]

It's funny to see that 'oasis' being shown in the spawn map while in the actual playable map we are only allowed to get a sliver of it

[next onyx]

5.2/.2 was the breaking point because he said shit like that wouldn't happen again.

[fading hawk]

I feel that’s the game industry as a whole though. It has been for many years and I admire anyone who can stick it out. Must be soul destroying at times.

[next onyx]

Implicating that wtf happened was beyond his control. I hope he has proper control next game.

[fading hawk]

I like that they’ve delayed it

Should give your devs time to cook instead of rushing them

[ashen siren]

Ultimately, they were forced by top-level to follow the path of profit over quality...and it absolutely shows

Insultingly bad

[vocal tusk]

I just hope next game has a solid game direction. The Yolo approach around 2042 specialist design at launch was so bad.

[patent pivot]

Name one publisher that is still innocent

[fading hawk]

Idk we can only see from an outside perspective.

[low timber]

Why does the AK5C in the Season 7 art have the GP-30 but has M203 in-game

[ashen siren]

They all do it, but when you're a publicly listed company, profit is the #1 thing that matters...everything else is irrelevant

[fading hawk]

Profit margins

[patent pivot]

You're saying not a single one is good

[ashen siren]

You're deliberately miscontruing what I'm saying dude

[fading hawk]

No not really. Even Embark has a pretty shady company behind it.

[vocal tusk]

Doesn't Nexon own Embark?

[zealous sail]

Hello guys. Do you know maybe why if im playing with bots (for unlocking stuff, cause last time im played 1/1,5 year ago) game laging? When im unlock net_graph (perfoverlay.drawfps 1) on category "sim" im have this stats on 20 yellow. In online game, i dont have any issue, lags. This stats on "sim" is green, small number.

[fading hawk]

I believe so. They recently purchased a larger share correct me if I’m wrong tho.

[vocal tusk]

I'm not 100% sure of the precise ownership. All I have to go off is articles on the net. But most of those say it owns 70%+ with options to buy the remaining shares.

[quaint vector]

That's it for me today... SCZ-3 Tier 1 tomorrow..

[tawny carbon]

[vocal tusk]

Sorry for your loss

[velvet sand]

mackay should be disabled on that map lol

[next onyx]

Bet.

Windows. I will catch up.

[fading hawk]

What if you are disabled and play McKay. Checkmate

[vocal tusk]

Mackay ruins most maps. It's just a bit more obvious on this one.

[pseudo pecan]

i 100% agree on mcay

[next onyx]

They should at least make the grappling hook not work on certain surfaces.

[quaint vector]

I'll play only tonight tomorrow, so there is plantly of time

[velvet sand]

a lot more obvious. his ability to zip around fundamentally breaks the entire flow of the map. he can just appear literally anywhere at any time basically

[next onyx]

Fair haha. It rips though.

[dull path]

opinions on the new visual recoil?

[fading hawk]

Shouldn’t of been in the game in the first place

Why do we need a grappling hook

[velvet sand]

mackay been hilarious busted since launch but DICE have just never wanted to acknowledge that fact or do the work of making his kit not fundamentally broken strong

[fading hawk]

We’ve survived 20 years of BF without one

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, thats my issue with Mackay also. Takes any other specialist a run up 2 flights if stairs and climbing a ladder to get to a roof. Mackay 3 seconds to grapple up there lol

[fading hawk]

It doesn’t work on any map

[velvet sand]

and gets up there faster anyways because he also has an inherent move speed advantage which is the most deadass dumb idea DICE had amonst all the bad ideas in 2042

[fading hawk]

That’s why no map has proper flow because you have multiple Mckays dancing around like spider man.

[dull sedge]

im curious: what do people think about air vehicles

[velvet sand]

delete them pls kkthxbai

[dull sedge]

lol

cos

[pine roost]

I like them

[dull sedge]

imo, if people think theyre op: they need to fly one themselves

[gilded goblet]

OMG!

U SWEAT LORD!

[dull sedge]

cos any new pilots that wanna fly, good luck

god be with you

[gilded goblet]

enders!

EW!

[velvet sand]

they've never been balanced in 2042 and they probably never will be. they're either too strong and farm ground, or they're too weak and are useless. in part, arguably, because DICE things effective rock-paper-scissors is when rock counters paper, paper counters rock, and scissors counters scissors

[dull sedge]

as you get railed by 8 tor tanks
9 liz rockets
4 tow missiles
3 jets
2 other choppers
10 railgun snipers

[dull sedge]

they were strong on launch

too strong

and ever since then

its just been

nerf

[pine roost]

and a partridge in a pear tree

[dull sedge]

nerf

nerf

nerf

[velvet sand]

because they were consistently too strong, see the introduction of the stealth heli rofl

[junior galleon]

Holy shitballs!

[shell ermine]

I feel like the game is like 70% PC players now.

[pine roost]

well, even then, jets have gotten signficant buffs since launch, the attack helis especially are far better

[dull sedge]

most of the console players turn cross platform off (and rightly so, its more casual)

[shell ermine]

Probably one of the biggest issues with the game left, PC-Console crossplay

[fading hawk]

Na you can see the console types in your squad. Most of mine are PS5-Xbox and a few PC players.

[dull sedge]

the jets got buffed until dice decided they wanted to add the stleath jet bomber thing
then they backed off and nerfed them again

[shell ermine]

Past few days I've been the only console player in my squads in every round

[dull sedge]

now the stealth heli gets sexually assaulted as soon as it goes up

the sheer annoyance of getting sniped by a railgun tank surrounded by 6 guys repairing
5 irish APS racks
and a wildcat

[velvet sand]

i've only played one round on the new map and really I don't see how air has a chance of surviving on it

[dull sedge]

its impossible lmao

the liz rocket defo got buffed

[velvet sand]

it feels like it was designed for a completely different battlefield, probably because it's designed with the next non-specialist BF in mind or something

[vocal tusk]

I hope not.

[velvet sand]

because if it was in another battlefield without specialists and with slightly better ground/air balance it'd be dope probably

[junior galleon]

wdym why would the 2042 team design a map not intended for how 2042 plays

[velvet sand]

wonder how it plays in portal with older BF classes

[velvet sand]

because they designed a map for urban fighting, and it's impossible to make a map for that that's actually balanced around and considers the specialist kits. so instead you pretend they don't exist, make a pretty decent map, and hope specialist kits don't completely break the thing too much

[kindred flint]

urban map should automatically ban mackay

[dull sedge]

this is facts

i wanna know what the ex dice devs that designed bf4 would have to say about a hitscan tank being added into a battlefield game tbh

more so, i wanna know if there is anyone that actually uses the tor in the "dice intended way"
instead of just using it as aa 💀

[gilded goblet]

Yes

[velvet sand]

rail weapons aren't a problem lol, they're actually pretty balanced

[lament plank]

So far it really feels like every weapon I use is broken…is that just me?

[dull sedge]

..

[velvet sand]

they updated the visual recoil on every weapon, that's probably what you're experiencing

[dull sedge]

across the map
getting sniped whilst im in a vehicle

not the railgun that infantry use

the tank

the goddamn tank

it gets you once but damn is it annoying

and it just adds to that list of threats that every vehicle suffers from

NOT just air vehicles

[velvet sand]

yes, the tank too, which is lightly armored and easily destroyed and needs to either expose itself while charging the round or time its peaking to actually fire the second the peak

[dull sedge]

easily destroyed if the person has 0 clue on how to use specialists

step 1: call in railgun tank on a skyscraper
step 2: irish aps
step 3: profit

nobody can touch you

[velvet sand]

shoot APS with machine guns before shooting missiles

sundance flies down and c5 faries it all boom

[dull sedge]

ah thats what i used to do

but then someone at dice decided to nerf that

💀

cant use mines either

apparantly that got nerfed

[lament plank]

Great so basically re learning every single gun…

[dull sedge]

just in general, having any hitscan weapon in a battlefield game never goes down well

even now, the old railgun that nobody uses anymore is severely underrated

(its because everyone tier 1 mastered it)

(and yes, technically its not hitscan by the definition, but with the size of the bf2042 maps compared to projectile velocity, IT BLOODY WELL IS hitscan)

[split ember]

I destroyed 2 helis with Lis on my first play through on the new map 🤣

[dull sedge]

its well easy

again, i wanna know who came up with the lis rocket

[jovial slate]

What do you guys think season 8 will be about when it comes out? in a couple months

[dull sedge]

there wont be a season 8 imo

its just gonna be recycled content

a lot of this season is recycled

[split ember]

At first I was like dayem. Then I realised there was just one Heli flying around in the whole map lol

[dull sedge]

one heli tbh is fine since its an infantry map

but you may as well make it 0 tbh

as a pilot
on that map, you either hide in the hills and get 2 kills

or try and fly like a normal player and die

theres literally nothing to fly around or dodge with

so they may as well just not have a heli on it

[split ember]

This map could have easily been expanded to accommodate air vehicles

[dull sedge]

too much effort

[split ember]

Exactly lol

[dull sedge]

gotta remember there's only like 5 people left on this crew

EA has the rest working elsewhere

or on the next game

this is purely just cashgrab

nothing more

my advice is to not buy into it

just save your money for the next game (if its good)

or better yet

[split ember]

We're all now scrounging for crumbs at this point.

[dull sedge]

just play an older game

[gritty cypress]

I would happily take 5 rushed maps rather than 1 map I absolutely hate

like why are they doing it this way

[gilded goblet]

Trust me the tralier is going to be sick as fuck like the hype will be crazy. And then maybe just a maybe they will give us a game with a mid story and an alr multi

[dull sedge]

the thing is, this map WAS rushed

[velvet sand]

not really. the guns all shoot the same, recoil wasn't actually changed mechanically. it's just the visual of it, and we're apparently beta testing it because there are a bunch of guns where it's either really bad or legit broken with certain scopes lol

[dull sedge]

theres no accountability for anything

do dice even play their own game? (ON REAL SERVERS)

[next onyx]

People are so over dramatic with this change holy fuck.

[gritty cypress]

I just wanna play redacted :/

[reef cliff]

Is anyone saying tanks are op? Well helicopter are very op because they can just spam flares.

[split ember]

Us to DICE: "Please may I have a crumb of a new map"?

[dull sedge]

what do you expect lol

[next onyx]

I do agree it's a little too extreme. Like a LITTLE. But it's not even a bad change.

[dull sedge]

OH you mean the visual recoil stuff?

tbh it wasnt asked for

[reef cliff]

The increased flare cooldown was a good change?

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[dull sedge]

but it doesnt change anything

[kindred flint]

hey now that holo sight RPT video on reddit with bipod down is hilarious

[dull sedge]

meh
it just pushes vehicles away EVEN longer now

for jets its fine

[next onyx]

It does make the guns feel like they have actual impact which I like.

[velvet sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/1biwyib/wtf_is_this_recoil/ this one actually seems super bugged and it's hilarious

[lament plank]

Well if it’s just visually it shouldn’t affect shots with ADS so…:yeah clearly broken on a lot

[next onyx]

It doesn't affect your shots.

Not directly anyways.

[dull sedge]

its sorta like older battlefield games now
the reason its annoying people is because everyone got used to the arcadey style shooter we had

[lament plank]

As is the 3rd person Abrams reticle. Gun is blatantly not shooting where aimed. Always a few feet below where it is. Be it stable movement or not.

[reef cliff]

Did they buff any of the underused and weak weapons?

[dull sedge]

the reticle is completely useless on pretty much all vehicles

[next onyx]

Smgs got a big buff.

So did the portal lmgs.

[velvet sand]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-7-0-0

[dull sedge]

all the new weapons are good

[next onyx]

M240 is much more usable.

[dull sedge]

basically

[lament plank]

I take it you mean now in this patch because I never had this problem before for the reticle

[kindred flint]

lmaoo thats a good one too

[dull sedge]

ohhh
well they have changed some of the reticle stuff

[velvet sand]

night at the roxberry recoil

[dull sedge]

but nah, personally I got used to just eyeballing it

and using my previous shot as a laser

this is because jets used to have no pre-calculated bullet drop crosshair

rendering the actual crosshair useless

just in general, the crosshairs of this game don't feel as nice as previous ones

bf5 had amazinggg gunplay

[next onyx]

Unfortunately kobra is still pretty broken.

[dull sedge]

and the best movement

[lament plank]

I used to be able to just eyeball as well with 3rd person reticle but now it’s completely off

[gritty cypress]

there would be a lot better sentiment in the community if they would just let us test & feedback beforehand 😩

[next onyx]

Unfortunately somebody higher up doesn't believe in a CTE.

[gritty cypress]

fire that person out of a cannon into the ocean

[dull sedge]

costs too much money for them to run

[next onyx]

If they did we would have gotten it on bf5.

It's not a matter of money.

[dull sedge]

it is to a greedy company like ea 💀

[next onyx]

Well I guess it is but I mean something like resources.

[dull sedge]

yeah

staff

[velvet sand]

CTE/PTR's jsut take time to spin up and come with certain expectations of actions taken between texting and shipping a build.

[dull sedge]

all links back to money

staff

[next onyx]

Dev time.

[dull sedge]

they have to have people sign up

that takes time

then feedback surveys

all takes time

[next onyx]

If it meant the patch could be delayed then sure.

[dull sedge]

and money

programming

plus for a game like 2042

they dont want one

they dont want you to know what's coming

they want blind hype

[velvet sand]

That's the kind of thing you'd build processes and plan for before shipping a game.

[dull sedge]

and false hope

[lament plank]

lol there was A LOT of time that this could have been tested…

[dull sedge]

i remember they talked about how they got around covid

but imo

[dull sedge]

they did fuckall during covid

[gilded goblet]

so did everyone

[zealous sail]

Hello guys. Do you know maybe why if im playing with bots (for unlocking stuff, cause last time im played 1/1,5 year ago) game laging? When im unlock net_graph (perfoverlay.drawfps 1) on category "sim" im have this stats on 20 yellow. In online game, i dont have any issue, lags. This stats on "sim" is green, small number.

[dull sedge]

and then someone high up asked about the progress

and bam

they shat themselves

[next onyx]

Almost as if a change in environment requires adjustment.

[dull sedge]

added 20 companies into the game

[velvet sand]

given that like 1/3 this seasons content isn't coming until May I doubt they've been sitting on the new map for a while lol

[velvet sand]

that sounds totally real and not like something you just made up in your head, lay off the doom and maybe touch some grass for a bit

[lament plank]

Has nothing to do with the map. The other gun changes etc could have been easily implemented and tested

[velvet sand]

I'm unconvinced those would have been ready in time for testing and hitting their target launch date, either.

[dull sedge]

..

i was exaggerating

[reef cliff]

you can still see scope glint in smoke for some reason.

[dull sedge]

but a lot of companies got added

[gritty cypress]

at this point they should just be outsourcing most of the work to the community, just release the map tools, and see what creations rise to the top, portal aint gonna cut it

[dull sedge]

towards the end of development

[velvet sand]

Again, if you want to have a PTR/CTE that's not something you just do. That requires a fair bit of planning ahead and setup time.

[next onyx]

I don't agree in using the playerbase as qa testers but I don't blame them when they don't have a cte.

[dull sedge]

they delayed need for speed until 2025 for it

[next onyx]

It would.

[dull sedge]

that HAS to be purely because they realised the game wasn't ready AT ALL to launch

[reef cliff]

PTR/CTE has uses for finding bugs still.

[velvet sand]

and they delayed bf2042 a few times in addition to throwing studios at them to help get them to the finish line. delays are finite though

[next onyx]

Same case with 2042 yet ea pushed it.

[next onyx]

Yeah!

[dull sedge]

yeah they have investors to please

they couldnt delay it any longer

but they added so MANY companies to the game

which was a red flag

[next onyx]

Development hell.

[dull sedge]

you don't add companies to a game unless its struggling

they worded it like as if it was something to hype about (obviously)

[velvet sand]

that's not a general truism at all, you really gotta enhance your calm bro

[vocal tusk]

If you mean them having 4 studios on 2042,it was the same for 1, V and 2042

[reef cliff]

Other companys be adding other companys in to the store...

[velvet sand]

more often than not you don't throw additional support studios at a game unless the game is generating the revenue to justify additional investment on it, for example

[gritty cypress]

look, i think we can all agree... whoever is steering the ship over there is absolutely mental and has no idea what theyre doing

[dull sedge]

the only revenue generated was from pre-orders

and the reason they added said companies

was to fufill the requirements

of said preorder

which was 4 seasons of content

[reef cliff]

On the EA app, Battlefield games are on big sale...

[velvet sand]

rofl dude no pls stop

holy crap you're making up so much stuff

[dull sedge]

stop what

[next onyx]

Where else do you think ea gets their money.

[dull sedge]

IT WAS LITERALLY IN THE PRE-ORDER PAGE

they had to fufill 4 seasons

minimum

[velvet sand]

they threw additional studios behind it because they weren't going to finish the game in time for its launch date. which they barely did anyways and it was deeply incomplete

[dull sedge]

before abandoning the game

[dull sedge]

yes

[velvet sand]

because DICE was begging for additoinal support

[dull sedge]

that as well

[vocal tusk]

Is that why we got 7 seasons? Lol

[dull sedge]

after season 4, it all suffered

slowly

[reef cliff]

EA needs to add a stat page so we can see every single change or at have updated gun stats.

[vocal tusk]

It's been the exact same content each season

[velvet sand]

the support for the seasons was a separate topic and I have no clue how you're connecting those two, that was a discussion post-launch as people wondered if BF2042 would even see a full year of support, much less more than 4 seasons.

[gritty cypress]

im not sure i would call these 'seasons' its some skins and a map lol

[dull sedge]

yes but the quality has gone down

yeah

• its just to milk the cow a bit

most AAA studios do this

extension strategies

and whatnot

[vocal tusk]

Lol no. The last 2/3 maps have been way bettwr than what we got in seasons 2,3 and 4

What is this dude smoking.

[gritty cypress]

"hey everyone the games not dead, please keep playing!!"

[dull sedge]

im not talking about the maps lol

the battlepass

all of it

[vocal tusk]

So what other content is there

[velvet sand]

dude if you thiink EA's making money off this you're wild. that's just limiting their losses, probably

[dull sedge]

they will squeeze what they can

[vocal tusk]

Bro who give a shit about the battle pass. Just go away

[dull sedge]

all the preoders is where most of the earnings came from

[reef cliff]

They making money with those big sales though.

[dull sedge]

idk how many refunds they gave out

[dull sedge]

this is just to get the rest of it

the boins section was the quickest page to have setup xd

[reef cliff]

Most of there earnings is from FIFA games tbh.

[vocal tusk]

You don't really seem to know anything. You're just wildly speculating

[velvet sand]

moving 10K units of a game at $10 isn't actually that much money. $100K becomes $70K after the storefront cut (unless sold through EA), then taxes after that. that's chump change

[dull sedge]

what part could be speculated

[gritty cypress]

dont forget Apex, F1 and all the other sports games lol

[dull sedge]

I read the pre-order conditions

I read their blog posts

[vocal tusk]

Search your messages, filter by text, select all

[reef cliff]

Also f for that apex tournament that got hacked.

[dull sedge]

so, combining business common sense, reading their posts and using braincells is speculation?

[gritty cypress]

was pretty funny ngl

[dull sedge]

im not sure what part of this is complicating

EA is a business

businesses want to make money

thats the way the world works

theyll do whatever they can

[robust vapor]

What's your scorpion setup @next onyx

[vocal tusk]

Yes, it is indeed speculating when you make statements based on a guess.

[dull sedge]

its extrapolation

you see the facts

they promised us 4 seasons

[reef cliff]

If EA was not making enough money. How come they put alot of games on sale in the EA app?

[dull sedge]

to make more money

people aren't gonna buy 2042 at the original sale price of like £60

[vocal tusk]

You are not making any statement of fact. You're 2 steps away from tinfoil hat territory

[dull sedge]

in local stores, 2042's price was going WELL cheap

[velvet sand]

here's an example of why. you think it's part of some grand plan that this was the only thing that worked well at launch and not because this is just a really simple system that uses a lot of existing code that works and hooks up to existing backend storefronts so of course this simple system wouldn't require a ton of dev time and balancing and would be one of the few functional things. it's a simple system not connected to gameplay lol.

[dull sedge]

dude thats just one part of my argument

I dont blame them for having that page setup

it makes sense for them to do that

[velvet sand]

that's an example of you making up shit or not understanding shit and complaining about it

[dull sedge]

...

[vocal tusk]

I CANT WAIT to hear the rest.

*leaves and goes to sleep

Lmao

[gritty cypress]

dont underestimate dev studios abilities to overengineer, reinvent the wheel and generally make stupid decisions

[dull sedge]

its a store page

there's not much too it

[stuck lava]

Who likes the new map?

[dull sedge]

the devs obviously gonna wanna make it

how else do they plan on making in app sales

through donations??? xd

dice patreon when

dice onlyfans when

[gritty cypress]

the store is probably where they spent most dev time 😂

[stuck lava]

Anyone?

[gritty cypress]

or at least there was a team as big as the gameplay one

[stuck lava]

Or you just gonna argue

[dull sedge]

its a bit

dodgy

[stuck lava]

SMGs seem fucked

[dull sedge]

i dont think they took into account about all the specialists being thrown into this

[gritty cypress]

I'm not a fan

[dull sedge]

there's loads of ways to exploit it

huhh

anticheat is pretty good imo

oh wait

they replaced it I remember

im not sure about the new one

the old one was pretty good

easy anticheat

I think it was

(its the same one fortnite use)

[stuck lava]

Map sucks and unbalanced

Would be better if it was balanced

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol

[dull sedge]

nah the old one i know had a good reputation

[gritty cypress]

they went from easy anticheat to EA anticheat a while back

[dull sedge]

the only thing the EA anticheat has done, was block me playing their game

that was a nightmare to fix

[drowsy shuttle]

I smell skill issue

[dull sedge]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

and how would you know

🔫

but nah ive not run into a proper PROPER hacker ever

on bf5 its a nightmare

people can just thanos snap the entire lobby

and speedhack

and have infinite ammo and stuff

bf5's anticheat is in the bin

[ebon pilot]

this new smg got no ammo

[robust vapor]

Nice but flash light ?

[ebon pilot]

im gonna have to farm bots just to get more ammo types

[robust vapor]

[next onyx]

Doesn't really matter anyways since you'll be maining standard for close range.

That's not the flash light that's the laser sight, Dok.

[robust vapor]

Oh

[dull sedge]

ewwwww

[robust vapor]

I thought man cant see shit in the new map thus flash light

[dull sedge]

not much anymore

[robust vapor]

[next onyx]

Wait did you just link to a cheat website.

[dull sedge]

lost interest in bf2042

[vocal tusk]

New map is skewed too hard towards the RU side. That's the first thing they need to fix balance wise.

[dull sedge]

oh yeah

[drowsy shuttle]

Hilarious

[dull sedge]

nono but dont punish that

[ivory canopy]

Ok I immediately regret that the randomizer chose the SVD.

This thing properly stinks

[dull sedge]

I played in both anticheats

i still have 1000 hours on the game

its just these past few weeks

naw naw i saw the link

obviously cheats exist

but compared to bf5

[ivory canopy]

The SVD sucks. The M93R isn't strong enough. I'm basically a cat fighting a lion's battle

[dull sedge]

the level of cheats has severely been punished

[kindred flint]

https://ol.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/1biiff5/this_is_a_level_of_irony_i_dont_think_mankind_has/ holy shit pilots are a special kind of dumb

[dull sedge]

why is bro complaining about soflams

theres so much worse to worry about

if hes focused on the soflams he aint a good pilot 💀

[kindred flint]

best part is...you soflam something then your team ignores it anyways

[dull sedge]

yes

they arent a threat

99% of the time nobody cares

and for the 1%, just go kill them

if you wanna take out a chopper

[kindred flint]

but 100% this had to be the new map which is just "how much farming can a nightbird do the entire match" and this guy must have gotten butthurt from a couple soflams on him

[dull sedge]

use lis

(or a tank)

[dull sedge]

farming doesn't work on the new map

its not designed for choppers at all

they need to remove it

as soon as you go near the battlefield, realistically EVERYONE on the map sees you

and when people see chopper, they see free kill

(unless thats just me)

[ivory canopy]

Aight so I tried something else and the SVD seems tolerable with irons, much like the M416

[pale wadi]

bruh the annoying visual recoil

is so ass

[ivory canopy]

Not even that, for me. A lot of these guns feel less accurate when using any optic

I can accept that with the M416, a gun that's reasonable to use with irons. The SVD? I'm like, "You gotta be joking me"

[velvet sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/1biz0e8/is_this_supposed_to_be_the_new_visual_recoil/ the videos of the weapon/sight combinations with bugged recoil are 10/10

[ivory canopy]

I had this issue since before the update, mind you

AC9 gave me hell and a half until I went irons only with it

[robust vapor]

LMAO

[next onyx]

DICE breaks movement yes.

[lament plank]

YIKES

Gunplay was not the problem that needed to be solved or worked on this season and now they’ll have to spend more dev time to fix it

New map is good though, kinda sad we had to wait till this season to get a map with destructible buildings…

[velvet sand]

mackay-less version of the map in the playlist when?

[ivory canopy]

(sigh) yet another irons-only gun to T1

and it's a DMR

go figure

SVD

I've found it painful to use with anything other than iron sights

Feels like I shit every shot I take using the ACOG

[digital fox]

Is the update up or what?

[dark peak]

guy why i can't buy battle pass coin???

[tacit sorrel]

Haven is mid

[junior galleon]

as somewhat expected

[ivory canopy]

Nobody can play Stadium rn

[lament plank]

Has anyone else had issues with 3rd person vehicle cam reticles? Can’t hit anything right now as it doesn’t match up where you’re actually aiming

[next onyx]

It's always been like that. They would be set for a distance and that is all.

[lament plank]

No it’s very off, I typically only drive my tanks in 3rd person and have never had issues like this

[stone cradle]

coming later

[median tusk]

truly a live service moment

[ivory canopy]

Then again I do recall the SVD being laughably bad at range so...

[junior galleon]

2 months from now

[vital mauve]

is season 7 even worth playing

[junior galleon]

if you like the game probably

otherwise probably not

[vague horizon]

man sadddd but also happy they took helis away from breakthrough

[junior galleon]

e621 plug in user...

[pine roost]

Tried it out earlier and the turret alignment has been shifted down a bit

[vague horizon]

kek

[hexed schooner]

Guys who speak Russian?

[tawdry cradle]

What do you guys rate the new season?

[gilded goblet]

hey

[next onyx]

I love sitting in a lobby for 10 minutes and then remembered oh yeah DICE doesn't want to add a server browser to All out warfare.

[gilded goblet]

a 4.5/10

[next onyx]

And if we find a game it'll disband.

[gilded goblet]

yes

[vital mauve]

need to organize a boycott so they can fix their shit

[vital mauve]

if no one plays they will be forced to stop releasing unfinished shit

[velvet sand]

i'm still mildly salty dice jebaited us over AOW server browser with their mini roadmap

[gilded goblet]

yep!

[next onyx]

Welcome to the industry.

[velvet sand]

that's a DICE special, mostly

[junior galleon]

they jebaited multiple times

[gilded goblet]

[heady thunder]

HI

[lament plank]

Right??? It is not lining up with the blue square or the reticle properly

[tawdry cradle]

Is the Stealth bomber in yet?

[gritty cypress]

see, someone should've said no to those merges on github, but they just kept merging, they just kept merging!

[gilded goblet]

no

[gilded goblet]

hi

[next onyx]

It'd be funny if the TOR could map the bomber.

[tawdry cradle]

This game so 💔

[gray epoch]

please lower the required number of player in asia
there's not much people playing bf2042 here, especially in south eastern region near singapore

[gilded goblet]

yep!

[velvet sand]

coming patch 7.2 sometime in may, alongside the new weapon and stadium map

[gritty cypress]

i dont think they have enough staff for anyone to read this discord

[velvet sand]

iirc this discord isn't operated by dice

[ivory canopy]

The sad thing is I'm more likely to get a kill in a CQB scenario with the SVD compared to the 93R

[next onyx]

Better yet. Actually give us a server browser.

[tacit sorrel]

Season 7 the last?

[gray epoch]

only 2 people on each lobby is crazy (bf 2042), its beyond impossible to play bf at all, i wish i still had my ps4 (before it was stolen) to play bf hardline

[lament plank]

Yeah they don’t pay much attention to this discord…or their forums… :/

[gritty cypress]

they're all too busy working on that wicked new sequel, right? RIGHT?!?!

[velvet sand]

the technology doesn't exist (dice still say no because that's expensive and a lot of work and they probably signed a multi-year on-demand server contract they don't want to back out of)

[next onyx]

I love it when you can't choose your games on all out warfare.

[velvet sand]

i unironically hope so. i hope this season is so content-thin because the content teams are cranking hard on a bunch of guns and maps for the next bf

[next onyx]

I wouldn't be so disappointed if they at least didn't make it so difficult.

[gritty cypress]

all hail the mighty matchmaker, knower of all, righter of wrongs

[tacit sorrel]

They should just cut support after season 7 ends tbh

[ivory canopy]

You mean they haven't already?

[gritty cypress]

I just wish for the option to choose which map you search for

[velvet sand]

thats a case where bots are almost prefereble lol, ouch. shame that connecting to other regions isn't really feasible with ping : (

[junior galleon]

they arent

[gritty cypress]

wonder how long it'll take for them to make redacted the featured map again 😂

like slapping flex seal on a rapidly leaking container

[velvet sand]

I'm choosing not to be uber cynnical before we know anything. Will wait for them to at least announce the game and reveal content, if not the game releasing itself, before jumping on the horse to shit all over it

[velvet sand]

only in cq, they really gotta do something about the breakthrough layout with that map because it's hot ass

[junior galleon]

fair enough, im being cynical because people said that about 2042 and we got... 2042

[ivory canopy]

Amen

[low timber]

Just yesterday I joked that if Dice just renamed the Portal tab as Server browser and did nothing else I’d bet most of the community wouldn’t even notice that they’d been bamboozled and would be ether praising or going “finally”

[royal swan]

no we would fucking notice, they tried to do this shit with the new maps, they aint getting away

[next onyx]

There's really no incentive to play portal.

God everything in this game works against it.

[mighty holly]

Has it completely died

[next onyx]

I hate to be so negative.

[gritty cypress]

oh portal, what it could have been

[next onyx]

But holy fuck.

I feel like Ayla towards the end of bf5 when she was getting more and more fed up and less interested in battlefield.

[tacit sorrel]

Do battle pass challenges count in portal?

[gritty cypress]

#1 the fact that it forces you to PC to make a custom mode... console players 🖕
#2 the fact that adding any type of AI to your mode means moderate XP makes it unappealing to most who want to unlock stuff
#3 good god the UI/UX... for gods sake its bad

[low timber]

So are you gonna explain what they tried to do with new maps or no?

[tawny carbon]

man was saying reported so many times in a row

[royal swan]

they tried to say the stadium map is new

it's not

the change from portal servers to server browser will be as noticeable as doing that new map shit

[tawny carbon]

its fully revamped tho

[restive depot]

What's motherboard recommend

[royal swan]

I know but it's still staduim, it's not entirely new

[gritty cypress]

their reworks are... lacklustre, and in places worse than the original

[royal swan]

they hyped a new map, like we never seen before

[tawny carbon]

it is new tho

[royal swan]

the only ones is kaleidoscope and manifest

[topaz crown]

But it's not

[next onyx]

The stadium is as "new" as a map remake.

[tawny carbon]

we cant play it currently

[heavy ice]

Quick Question, EA play pro getting S7 pass for free like the others or no?

[royal swan]

not a new map as "new map"

[tacit sorrel]

Stadium is just reused assets from hourglass

[velvet sand]

I still dislike calling it "new" even if it does have a good amount of work. "updated/reimagined" sounds much more accurate while still indicating it's new content coming. "new map" sounds like...new.

[gritty cypress]

the new spawnpoints on hourglass are godawful, as an example, very spawncampable

[royal swan]

it is the resued asset

[tawny carbon]

its not exactly copy pasta

its full reworked

[royal swan]

no way you said the old hourglass was better, I cant even enjoy that old map without walking 3 fucking boring minutes to the next objective

[topaz crown]

I thought I'd come back to to check the season out, what a waste of an install

[next onyx]

It isn't really that new.

[royal swan]

fuck old hourglass

[topaz crown]

Yeah, it's not new

[next onyx]

Fuck hourglass in general.

It's actual ass.

[tacit sorrel]

Old 64 breakaway was better imo

[gritty cypress]

It had its charm, the new one... has some better bits, but far from overall better

[topaz crown]

Vouch

[heavy ice]

anyone lol

[velvet sand]

we haven't seen it yet (just some snippets), so we can't confirm how "fully reworked" it is. all the same, updated/reimagined gets the point across without potentially misleading. it's not like people thinking it was going to be "brand-new" and not Stadium returning is isolated, a lota folks thought that so clearly that's a point of more general confusion.

[next onyx]

Would rather play battle of the bulge.

[tawny carbon]

stadium was in the old hourglass

[royal swan]

the good bits (only stadium) was empty as fuck, everyone as at either the town or the arch, sometimes the skyscrapers that are filled with rat snipers

fuck old arch

[gilded goblet]

i don't want to fuck the map thx

[gritty cypress]

There were way better ways of reworking the map, but what they did was basically, just make it smaller, but have the same problems

[amber kelp]

Regardless of a rework, "stadium" is not a new map

[gritty cypress]

personally I would've gone way harder on tunnels, link up the main features with obvious lanes, thick with cover

not just LOL DESERT

[royal swan]

hourglass is a unfixable map but the rework made it god damn playable, spawn camping is not an issue, that would be a team skill issue.

[tawny carbon]

old stadium dont look like that tho

[amber kelp]

LoL desert can work. Silk Road and Sinai Desert come to mind

[gritty cypress]

yes, a heli sweeping the people spawning out in the open desert before they even get control is a skill issue 😄

[royal swan]

unless you remove all of that clutter, the foundation will still be the same

[tawny carbon]

no

[velvet sand]

basic layout, yes. there's more cover, but that's like arguing the updated versions of the launch maps are all "new" then lol

[next onyx]

Yeah the foundation is still the same.

[amber kelp]

end of the day its still the stadium. Its still not a new map

[drowsy shuttle]

Kaleidoscope needs a re-rework

[tawny carbon]

they expand it to work in all modes, the old one is to small for it

[drowsy rose]

M1A5 skin is PAC coded
T28 skin is whatever coded

Interesting

[royal swan]

The ledge, the levels, the stairs, they were in the old stadium

[tawny carbon]

its a revamped

[gritty cypress]

how long does it take an intern to go put 30,000 more boxes in a map... apparantly this long 😄

[amber kelp]

and?

[drowsy rose]

Quite humor that PAC is still Pan Asia despite every nato other than Korean and Japan hating eachother

[tawny carbon]

its not the exact same as before

[velvet sand]

that's what we sayin, gamer

[amber kelp]

and?

[tawny carbon]

you all are saying its the exact copy pasta

[gritty cypress]

filled with boxes yes