battlefield-2042

[ocean moss]

J TO TEAM CHAT

[cold beacon]

I mean to be fair, the game itself looked like it was a beta 💀

[arctic grove]

wat

[toxic wigeon]

lol

Beta is just early access

[ocean moss]

OLD SCHOOL I HIT J TO TALK

[toxic wigeon]

That’s why they put it in deluxe packages

Where you get extra days

[ocean moss]

j and i keep caps on and shi

[toxic wigeon]

It’s not a beta

[cold beacon]

Yeah

[toxic wigeon]

They change like 3 things for release

[cold beacon]

well, just saying

I think majority of people aren't gonna pre-order next BF game 💀

[toxic wigeon]

Absolutely lol

[arctic grove]

Nah I’m not

[toxic wigeon]

I’m not either

[arctic grove]

I got burnt, I learned better

[toxic wigeon]

I get burnt out on all games so

[cold beacon]

they'll just wait for a month or so, so people can cool down with the hype and give an honest review of the game instead of: "YOOO THIS IS ACTUALLY INSANE, BF2025 IS SO GOOD" and you see JackFrags tapping ppl with laser guns that dont have any recoil

[toxic wigeon]

I got 2042 for like $20

I got my moneys worth

[mental delta]

Multiply it by 5

That's how much I bough it

Insult me please

[toxic wigeon]

Nah

It’s all good

[arctic grove]

There’s no judging here nah

[toxic wigeon]

Hype can do a lot to your mind hehe

[cold beacon]

yeh, we all make mistakes

[arctic grove]

I mean the problem with the devs and publishers persists all over gaming so

[cold beacon]

look at BF2042's devs

[cold beacon]

real

[cold beacon]

yeah, that's the problem overall rn

and also, I've seen that some EA/Dice manager or someone said they're gonna let AI create games (?) or smth like that

I was weirded out, I couldnt read it atm

but Ive seen smth like that

[toxic wigeon]

Meh it’s inevitable

For ai stuff

I know a dude who used it to clean up his code

He said sometimes it works

But sometimes it would break the code

He’s a newer game dev

[mental delta]

I had never preordered a game before that and as we hadn't gotten a BF game since 3 years prior to BF2042 launch I wanted to show my support lol

[toxic wigeon]

Another dev I talk to uses voice ai

Because he can’t afford voice acting rn

He’s really broke

[junior galleon]

i actually preordered after they released the portal trailer then i saw everything kind of going to shit, played the beta, said nah and backed out

[mental delta]

You were right lol, Portal was a wonderful promise which turned into a terribly wasted opporunity

[arctic grove]

I was thinking it was gonna be a map editor or smth

[junior galleon]

before launch i remember predicting we'd get 7 more aow maps and 7 more portal maps. so far i wasnt wrong about AOW (i dont REALLY count stadium) but i was REALLY wrong about portal lol. its a shame

[toxic wigeon]

I didn’t think portal would have a map editor

But I thought it would have more maps lol

[mental delta]

Yeah many people expected at least 3 maps each season, 2 maps for AOW and 1 for Portal and according to leaks it was their plan when the game released, then they fucked all of us and blamed players for shitty launch by not giving us any new content for 6 months and ending up releasing 1 map each season

[toxic wigeon]

3 maps was always too much

Per season at least

I thought like 2

One mid season

[royal swan]

I'ma main the hell out of haven

It's disappointing that people who call it not a new map because it reuses assets like every other bf maps live rent free in my head.

[mental delta]

It's a new map, Stadium isn't one though but Haven is

[royal swan]

I know but people call haven not a new map because they reuse assets. Like do they not play bf at all

[mental delta]

Most previous games reused assets over and over for most maps and it was ok

No I just think that 6 months was exaggerated for such a low quantity of content, but map looks good imo

And guns as well

Just sad we get so few new content

But I ain't surprised

[prime ember]

seeing how the games launch in the past years , since sw bf 2 2017 , i have no more faith in any release

it will never change

until they stop making profit

[mental delta]

Yes 90% of AAA titles release in terrible situations now

They just think we're cash machines idk

Then they'll be moaning and crying when their games don't work and players get upset

Not talking about EA or Dice only

Just the industry as a whole

[prime ember]

At this point i am not even surprised if GTA 6 will be the first major flop of rockstar , seeing how greedy take 2 is

And i refuse to believe that us , as players , we have too many expectations

[patent pivot]

And yet, they hype the battlefront games remaster too far

Oh they never learned anything

[prime ember]

how could they even possibly get that wrong

they just had to bring back the multiplayer , the new textures are welcome , but damn 62 GB 💀

[patent pivot]

What if I theorize the project took only less than 6 months to make

[prime ember]

very possible

[patent pivot]

Atm, we can make fun of their effort for only upscaling graphics

Very little fix to gameplay and old bugs

[prime ember]

For a moment i really thought it will be a good game and not only a cashgrab , for the first time from disney , damn i was wrong

[bitter mulch]

True but on the other side s6 could be the last and we wouldnt get what se are getting now

Also sam Brokens gameplay video and it really looks good

The map feels real

[mental delta]

Idk it would have been dumb to fix the game that much to abandon it after season 6

[bitter mulch]

Well they fixed bf5 too and then abandoned

[mental delta]

Yeah and it was dumb imo

[bitter mulch]

It was

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

Your Update Notes for #Battlefield2042 Season 7: Turning Point is on the way tomorrow!

But let's begin today, by sharing our Dev Notes from the Weapons & Vehicles Teams on where their areas of focus are for Update 7.0.0.

🧵Learn more details in the thread!

𝕏 · Mar 14, 2024, 7:09 PM

[spare pasture]

Cant We have the update tomorrow

[quaint vector]

No.

[ebon pilot]

YES

[bright canopy]

oh my fucking god YES THE HEADSHOT MULTIPLIER CHANGES

I've been BEGGING for this for almost two years aaaaaaaaaa

[glad quarry]

Guessing there aren't any ideas for when its gonna drop then

[next onyx]

SMG HEADSHOT FINALLY DECENT AGAIN.

[bright canopy]

assault rifles no longer the all compassing all range meta pick WOOOOOOOOOO

[spare pasture]

[next onyx]

I'm more concerned about SMG's just sitting in the gutter to be honest.

[bright canopy]

Butler, hand me the PBX, I have some VHX reprobates to clean up

Wonder what the other weapon tweaks will be

Guess we'll find out tomorrow

[next onyx]

You'l need to hit two headshots for SMG's to make a matter TTK wise but that's still a mawssive improvement.

That being said.

The am40 will probably need a look at too.

If they want to go along with this change.

Fuck I gotta get ready for work but Ill just say that the am40 due to its HS multiplier really did invalidate the entire SMG class.

[viscid bone]

And to think we're not even done yet

[spare pasture]

Does this confirm we are getting a gun

Like an smg or some ar

[viscid bone]

Vehicles Team have yet to post, right?!

[next onyx]

I've been told there are more. Someone that I know was apparently in the playtest and said the SCAR feels incredibly good.

[spare pasture]

Hasn’t it always felt good

[next onyx]

Which is weird to hear.

[chilly jacinth]

yes its always been good

and has only improved

[ivory canopy]

SFAR-M is very good. I T1'd it and can confirm

[ebon pilot]

total i have a question

[viscid bone]

maybe.

[brittle arch]

is season 7 the last one?

[spare quest]

https://x.com/T0TALfps/status/1765056888884879384?s=20 any news on this? or was that a lie

Kevin Johnson (@T0TALfps) on X

@mooselotte @RevDMQ @BattlefieldComm Stay tuned. :)

Twitter · Mar 5, 2024, 4:48 PM

[viscid bone]

That will be a couple of weeks. Again, stay tuned.

[spare quest]

It just sounds too good to be true

[spare pasture]

[chilly jacinth]

explain what it is

[viscid bone]

Confess your stance on pineapple on pizza, and we can chat.

[chilly jacinth]

cant be bothered to use twitter

[spare quest]

would you use X?

[next onyx]

It's a site infested with pieces of shit.

More so than before.

[spare quest]

BFV/1 might become fun again soon

[chilly jacinth]

oh

that

then i dont care

[ebon pilot]

to be honest i like pineapple and i like pineapple on pizza, especially when it's loaded with meats.

[spare pasture]

PINAPPLE ON TOP #1 PINAPPLE ON PIZZAAA

[viscid bone]

Ehhhhhh..........

[next onyx]

Fight fight fight.

I won't intervene.

[viscid bone]

https://tenor.com/view/jimchi-jim-chi-asmr-jimちasmr-roman-centurion-gif-18632589

[ivory canopy]

Will we see more vault weapons?

[next onyx]

Users against community managerr, Pineapple and pizza fight.

[ebon pilot]

why can't we just enjoy our own personal pizzas in peace

[next onyx]

Go go go go!

[spare pasture]

The legion has marked you for death

[ivory canopy]

I'd like to see things such as the M95, M1 Garand, AN-94...

[next onyx]

I wonder if they will do the AN94.

[spare pasture]

Are we the real monsters

[spare quest]

Same

[viscid bone]

I am currently eating margherita pizza. nod

[chilly jacinth]

worst pizza

[next onyx]

Actually in seriousness. Pineapple and Ham is pretty damn nice.

[chilly jacinth]

its just bread

[next onyx]

You're just bread.

[viscid bone]

Maybe pizzacat will ask their question before im done.

[chilly jacinth]

i wish i was bread

[ebon pilot]

oh yeah the question

[spare quest]

[next onyx]

I will make you into bread.

I will not elaborate further.

[spare pasture]

Will the haven map have buildings

[ebon pilot]

does the twitter team watch this chat for clips? i post lots of clips here but i don't use twitter. it'd be cool if clips here could be featured on those only in battlefield montages

[chilly jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-get-this-bread-praise-the-loaf-funny-get-that-breat-get-it-gif-12897456

[viscid bone]

If you ping @frosty patio on a good clip, im sure he'll pick it up. He's always on the lookout for cool clips.

[ebon pilot]

awesome i will do that

[spare pasture]

What if my clips have background music from YouTube

[viscid bone]

And if he goes QQ, tell him i said to ping

[next onyx]

Oh man.

[viscid bone]

Probably not

[dull needle]

my game keeps crashing

[next onyx]

I'll make sure to hit a nasty EVO clip and see if that can get pushed through.

[dull needle]

wothout error

anybody please help

[next onyx]

We aren't tech help so I don't believe we can help you unfortunately.

[ivory canopy]

The SCZ-3 will give me an excuse to finally finish the T1 for Irish

[next onyx]

SMG's will finally be a bit better now.

[ivory canopy]

I got T1 on every SMG before I could T1 Irish

[dull needle]

is there a server for it or channel

[spare pasture]

Luck o the Irish ☘️

[next onyx]

Nothing here unfort.

[ivory canopy]

Now I'll T1 Sundance and have at least 7 ARs left to T1.

[spare pasture]

How much have you t1d

[ivory canopy]

I have 26 guns T1 iirc

I have only five specialists that I didn't T1

[spare pasture]

Anyone notice how you kill people in this game

Isn’t that like illegal

[ivory canopy]

Also you play as mercenaries

Isn't that also dubious?

[ebon pilot]

also the US caused a massive global blackout that killed at least 100,000 isn't that bad?

hmmmm

[spare pasture]

Yeah that sounds kind of silly to happen in real life

The US having a war with China and Russia that seems kind of hard

[late needle]

Silly

[ebon pilot]

i only have like one "only in battlefield" type clip but i'm hoping @frosty patio likes it

[spare pasture]

I saw this on Reddit

[ebon pilot]

did you now?

where?

[spare pasture]

Battlefield2042 if i even remember correctly

[ebon pilot]

that really narrows it down

[spare pasture]

[late needle]

Anyone wanna play bf2042 LFG is dead

[quaint vector]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[gilded goblet]

@quaint vector

[queen violet]

Have you watched the season 7 gameplay/interview.

[gilded goblet]

could i get the thingos please

[queen violet]

Shocking. Lol

[bitter mulch]

Now that all maps are 64p they could add ps4 crossplay with ps5🤷

[queen violet]

6 months For this one map

Look on youtube - battlefield 2042 season 7 haven.

[ebon pilot]

are you sure you saw it on reddit or did you see it when i posted it here 5 days ago?

[arctic grove]

[spare pasture]

I don’t remember

Who plays 2042 on a ps4

[bitter mulch]

I do, cuz i have ps5 at home and ps4 in my college dorm

[spare pasture]

[unborn herald]

so when does season 7 get here

[royal swan]

19th

[arctic grove]

when I use my ass to take down a plane

[arctic grove]

Also the jet with blue is my teammate people asked for more team clips but he bailed out later on in the clip

[granite island]

No 128p for haven

It's so over

Portal too laggy

[royal swan]

Credit Danny for this

They are changing the headshot multipliers again

Also vault SMGs are getting a faster bullet velocity

We will see more in the patch notes tomorrow

Smgs are finally getting justice for their god awful nerf they got at the beginning of the games launch

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield (@Battlefield) ✧

#Battlefield 2042 - Season 7 is right around the corner ⏰

Play on Haven and Stadium, master new weapons and knock down 100 Battle Pass tiers on the way.

Hold nothing back on March 19 📅

𝕏 | 🎬1 · Mar 14, 2024, 9:03 PM

▻

[queen violet]

Right around the corner. 😂 1 map 6 months looks basic copy and paste 😂

[royal swan]

Bro didn't pay attention

[tidal trail]

Spent all their time making cosmetics

[pine roost]

that tweet mentions that they'd share some notes on weapons and vehicles, but only covered weapons. Did they not mention any vehicle changes?

[tidal trail]

Maps don't make them money

DLC days are over

[royal swan]

Yep dlcs are a thing of the past for bigger companies

[queen violet]

Good games are over. Unskilled mofo took over

Half the devs. I bet. Never even seen a pc. Untill last year 😂😂😂

[royal swan]

You could just play some good indie games, they haven't stopped being good

Like no one is forcing you to not play any game on the market

[pine roost]

also please don't make this be another ttk 2.0 moment

[queen violet]

I only play battlefield. Have done since they first came out

[karmic egret]

Great dice is fucking with the ttk again

[royal swan]

It's headshot multipliers

[karmic egret]

Is BFV all over again

[royal swan]

They buffed SMGs and nerfed ars and lmgs

[next onyx]

Stop being dramatic. @karmic egret

[royal swan]

Not really that bad

[next onyx]

Funny enough.

[upbeat sand]

I think it’s cause locking the player base out of content would not have the best outcome

[royal swan]

Y'all are being dramatic like what way said

[next onyx]

Ars aren't really being nerfed.

28 damage ars will still 2hk to the head.

[royal swan]

Need is a nerf but it's not that noticable

[karmic egret]

It's so fucking over the game is ruined I want refund gib naval combat

[next onyx]

But I know specific values are changing.

[queen violet]

Sho cares about guns

[pine roost]

oh at least it's just headshot multipliers

[queen violet]

You got one map. Does that not sink in ?

Cant you people think any more

[karmic egret]

TWO MAPS

[next onyx]

Smgs will need 2 headshots to make a difference ttk wise.

[queen violet]

AI. Comes to mind

[karmic egret]

So smgs are 2 hs

[junior galleon]

one and 1/12th of a map

[queen violet]

2 maps. How?

We already had that 128 player

[royal swan]

I do but I like to think other things other than you who is still on maps for some reason

[karmic egret]

Stadium which is new.....ish

[queen violet]

They deleted it.

Now they gave us it back

[karmic egret]

It's back

[junior galleon]

and have to wait another 2 months for that

[karmic egret]

Yey

[queen violet]

Lol

[tidal trail]

It is a "New map" to LAST gen players. PS4 and Xbox One didn't have stadium at all

[royal swan]

True

[queen violet]

Half of you think like the new devs. Lmao

[next onyx]

Hey that's still cool and all.

[junior galleon]

surprised last gen still gets updates at all

[royal swan]

Plus it's new to those who haven't played it against multiple people

[queen violet]

Your more happy about a pink gun skin

[royal swan]

I played it when it's empty

[next onyx]

The devs I've talked to are absolute sweethearts.

[royal swan]

You're

[junior galleon]

its stillnot new

[queen violet]

Look. You even correct. A word

[royal swan]

New experience, new to last gen

[queen violet]

Thats how. Box ticker you are

[royal swan]

What are you even saying

Box ticker you are. HUH

Is that even a correct sentence

[queen violet]

Tick it. Lol

[next onyx]

Dudes actually incoherent as fuck lmao.

[karmic egret]

Yeah they are so nice, they actually take criticism very well

[royal swan]

Is English your second language or something

Because it's shit

[next onyx]

By the way. When katilio appears say hi to him.

[karmic egret]

Will do

[next onyx]

He's actually super cool.

[queen violet]

I am english. Don’t tell a english man. How to speak his own shit

[royal swan]

Nice

[karmic egret]

Speak english

Your speaking engrish

[queen violet]

Lmao

[royal swan]

Actually gibberish at this point

[queen violet]

Its because. You love the one map

[royal swan]

Still confused bro

[spare pasture]

🥶

[queen violet]

Stfu

[still vault]

• "I am English. Don't tell an Englishman how to speak his own language." Capital E's, Englishman is one word

[spare pasture]

John Englishman

[junior galleon]

new experience for some, hardly a new asset. this should have no extended development at all and it should not take an extra 2 months to get

[queen violet]

Your all box tickers. I can tell. How you talk in here

What do you go by ?

[next onyx]

I know people who has English as their second language and speak more sense than you.

[royal swan]

If you put more thought, the player count will increase in that area, have you ever played the stadium area with 64 players

More players is a new experience

[spare pasture]

Me fail English? That’s unpossible

[royal swan]

Over the 10 that you would get before

[still vault]

I prefer to think of myself as a murderous penguin connoisseur. But you do you.

[queen violet]

You all sounds like kids. Just learning words in school

[junior galleon]

this is not about "fun level" or a new "experience" for us this is about how much time it took and should take the DEVELOPERS to make, which is nothing, its an asset flip

[next onyx]

It would really be nice if they kept the stadium, the area around it and just called it hourglass.

[queen violet]

Bed time soon. School in the morning

You would know

[spare pasture]

1984

[junior galleon]

why you going after me

[queen violet]

Lol

Yes. 1984. Here we are

[still vault]

Here ya go, take a penguin

[next onyx]

Dude has no idea that people from other parts of the world exist.

[royal swan]

You do know that every bf map uses old assets from their maps and older bf games. This is more of a rework map into a newish experience for old gen players and people who played it but not to the extent as it will be

[spare pasture]

I like that the stadium is back I hope it plays well 🤞

[queen violet]

Amazing

[junior galleon]

bro, this is more that reusing assets this is literally just that part of the map with some slight improvements that took a few weeks at MOST.

[next onyx]

I'll be honest. I was disappointed they were re using the stadium and labelled that as a new map which gave us the idea of hey something original original.

However.

I'm not against the idea of a dedicated map around the stadium.

[queen violet]

Around. What you. Hoping for. Hahahaha

It will be the same.

[spare pasture]

English please

[royal swan]

The improvements are not slight, the stadium was straight up baren as the rest of hourglass, the reworked has put much more improvements.

[junior galleon]

im not either, but they mislabeled it. 2 maps and almost twice as long between seasons should mean a new full map. instead we get asset flip of arica harbor and the same stadium with some improvements

[queen violet]

What a idiot you are

[spare pasture]

An*

[junior galleon]

shipping crates?

[karmic egret]

How could they label it tho? Like it wasn't its own separate map but yet it's not a new map

[next onyx]

Their more recent maps like reclaimed proves dice doesn't need 128p to make decently paced maps.

[spare pasture]

New but not new map

[royal swan]

I actually don't see any, the more reoccurring is the sandbags and sand boxes

[karmic egret]

128p is good on breakaway

[next onyx]

Repurposed.

LMAO

[karmic egret]

I'd say newish

[royal swan]

Unless I missed one or two

They haven't been appearing in the newer maps

[junior galleon]

equally effortless to place. they have the sandbag model and they paste it everywhere. should not be taking as long as it is

[queen violet]

Cant take it. Lol. Admins delete lol

Poor

[spare pasture]

First map to have no containers

[still vault]

@queen violet A friendly reminder for you and everyone else to read the #500058972234055710

[royal swan]

There were much more than just props they have added areas to it as well

[next onyx]

Go be a freak somewhere else.

[spare pasture]

[royal swan]

We will see it when it releases

[queen violet]

Calling me. Freak. Read the rules. Admin

[junior galleon]

when you tell me something that should add extra 4 months ill agree with you

[royal swan]

The map will definitely play different than what it was before

[spare pasture]

The main thing is how they said 2 new maps and never specified if it’s an entirely new map

[queen violet]

Your a bunch of girls

And you know it

[spare pasture]

😱

[still vault]

Such a comeback

now back to 2042

[spare pasture]

Gadzooks how could he say that

[weak pilot]

hi all, i just installed battlefiled 2042 and when i click play on steam, it shows like the "starting game" thing but then my game doesn't launch, can someone please help?

[royal swan]

You could deal with him as he's harassing people now. It's against server rules, we won't miss him.

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that's just an issue with the launcher in general mono.

[strong snow]

No you’re wrong I identify as an Apache helicopter

[weak pilot]

is there a fix?

[spare pasture]

Atleast not a littlebird

[next onyx]

Task manager end ea app.

[strong snow]

[next onyx]

Best case scenario keep on doing that. If not I would advise a full on computer restart.

[vocal tusk]

If you're on w11 it's caused by its anti tamper protection

[weak pilot]

would there be a problem if im not signed into EA?

[next onyx]

Only time I remember windows 11 exists is when they ask me to "upgrade" to it.

That shouldn't be an issue.

[weak pilot]

what do i do on the task manager an ea app?

[next onyx]

End.

[weak pilot]

end what?

[next onyx]

Basically forcefully close the app through task manager since it's a back ground process.

This allows it to restart.

Properly.

[weak pilot]

the game or the EA app?

[next onyx]

I thought I made it clear. End ea app if the game isn't launching.

[royal swan]

Lol

[vocal tusk]

This is the fix if your issue is EA app trying to start, but the game not launching (If you are on W11, unsure if this is still an issue on W10)

[void gorge]

People are saying that this season will be the last but I hope that isn't true because the next game will only be released at the end of next year and imagine spending all this time without content in the most recent game

[royal swan]

I'm confident 8 is last season

Season 9 would start year 3

[vocal tusk]

If they need to move onto the next game, so be it.

[timber swallow]

[next onyx]

I very rarely hit it thankfully.

[royal swan]

Honestly I never had any issues with w11

Or w10

Zero issue

[next onyx]

And yeah observer I was thinking. It's clear most of the devs are on the next game.

The actual delays between the seasons are getting bad.

I wouldn't mind the delays if we had mini seasons?

I dunno.

[royal swan]

S8 will not be big by any means

If it's confirmed

[next onyx]

Yea.

[uneven ibex]

Posted

Battlefield Comms (@BattlefieldComm) ✧

In our final Dev Notes ahead of our Update Notes going live tomorrow for #Battlefield2042 Season 7: Turning Point

It's now time to hand things over to the Vehicles Team to relay what they're doing for 7.0.0.

🧵Get a glimpse in the thread below!

𝕏 · Mar 14, 2024, 9:55 PM

[bitter mulch]

Do you think that is possible? I like how NFS did it. The calendar for the whole year what and when it comes

[royal swan]

I believe they can at least make one map

A few guns

A gadget

Or a vehicle

[bitter mulch]

Depends how succesfull s7 is gonna be i guess

[vocal tusk]

Finally, c5 reduced to 2 for assault and recon classes.

Engineers still get 3

[dusk falcon]

https://twitter.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1768395512930001165?t=apIdkt8qROrTHknB9RqAwQ&s=19

YEAAA BOYS

c5 reduced for assault and recon

[sturdy socket]

just make C5 exclusive to recon... lol

engineers have launchers

[dusk falcon]

what about lis

anyway horrible take

leave the server

[sturdy socket]

she's still got that dumbass TV launcher

lol

[royal swan]

Oh shit what

That's big

[dusk falcon]

i still think assault and recon shouldnt have them at all

but its a start

[sturdy socket]

why not recon? lmfao

[royal swan]

Bro that kills the meta for anti tank

[sturdy socket]

support and recon had them in 3/4

[royal swan]

THAT'S HUGE FOR SUCH A SMALL CHANGE

[vocal tusk]

At least now they wont just use Sundance and Mackay to get easy, almost unstoppable kills on armor.

[dusk falcon]

yea but there were many more vehicles back in that game

thats why more c4 was needed

[sturdy socket]

did something change

[royal swan]

It takes three c5s to kill a tank, and assault being the most mobile class it was the meta for anti tank

Now it's gone

[dusk falcon]

2 c5 still do big damage

idk they should just remove them completely

[vocal tusk]

2 on the back kills most tanks.

[sturdy socket]

i agree, assault shouldn't have it period

engineer already has loads of shit, and Lis should have never been implemented

etc etc

[pine roost]

wait so that's a buff to engie c5 right?

[vocal tusk]

Still possible but you need to skillfully place, not just rush in place 3 and get a cheap kill

[sturdy socket]

now where is the fix that makes javelins able to lock on to fucking soflam through terrain again

because it's been about a year now since that change was silently added

[vocal tusk]

Engineer c5 stays the same, so an indirect buff

[pine roost]

ayo?

no accel on tank turrets?

[sturdy socket]

is flight assist STILL in the game? lmao

[vocal tusk]

But mines no longer proc on immediate impact.

[pine roost]

if so, that's going to feel so much nicer

[pine roost]

unfortunately, yes

still not fixed

[sturdy socket]

lol

[pine roost]

but we persevere

[sturdy socket]

not me

[pine roost]

these turret changes look good

[vocal tusk]

Wildcat 40mm gone, main turret damage nerfed a bit, the lock on change isn't totally clear to me tho.

[pine roost]

and the increased ammo count on engies seems fair given the reduced c4 on assaults

me likey

[vocal tusk]

Would love to see all helis updated to match the attack helis this season.

Flight model wise

[pine roost]

it would be the perfect time to do so

given these changes

and 3 years is long enough

[remote kiln]

ok these changes have my attention, curious to see the patch notes now

[vocal tusk]

Wildcat nerf is well overdue

And now it's dedicated AA with no 40mm hopefully people will use it as it's expected to be used.

It's a good direction

[sturdy socket]

they're giving ANOTHER rocket to engineers?

[remote kiln]

yes

not sure why they left these changes to be mentioned till now but, interesting to see nonetheless

[vocal tusk]

Makes sense to do so, when they are removing anti armor capabilities from 2 other classes.

Lis might get more stock TV missiles then also?

[remote kiln]

not sure if that counts, isn't clarified

[vocal tusk]

And maybe slightly slower recharge rate

Aka, spawn with 3,but recharge 25% slower new rounds.

[remote kiln]

still very bizarre pacing with these information drops they're doing especially from armoured kill but eh it's w/e

[vocal tusk]

So Crawford will be able to carry 6 M5 rockets haha

[tawny carbon]

I wanna see notes

[royal swan]

So fucking glad assault can no longer come out of no where and fuck my tank in a instant

[safe bramble]

is 2042 like the culmination of decades worth of coping from infantry users or what lmao

[tawny carbon]

I hear skill issue of self awareness

[safe bramble]

who thought bringing back active missiles in a worse format was a good idea

[royal swan]

Eat shit, now you gotta skillfully come to my tank to kill me

[tawny carbon]

Bet

[safe bramble]

if you want good tanks play bf4

[tawny carbon]

It be gone

[royal swan]

No I would play bfv

Bfv tanks were the best

[tawny carbon]

Ewww V is bad

[safe bramble]

im sure your tank would matter against the instakill cheats

[royal swan]

Best tank mechanics and best tank variety

[viscid bone]

Now stop hiding behind those APS systems and get onto the objective! No more excuses!

[tawny carbon]

BF4 have the best tank mechanics

[safe bramble]

true

[royal swan]

Lmao, yeah they are the reason for holding me back

[tawny carbon]

BF1 also

[safe bramble]

and best mechanics, hands down

[next onyx]

I just hope Irish aps no longers touches rockets.

[royal swan]

Now they can eat shit and dirt

[next onyx]

I'm at work and I don't have twitter on this phone. Can someone give me a full summery.

[remote kiln]

not really

too many changes

[next onyx]

I'll be honest. The only problematic assault with c4 that needed a change was sundance. I hope the overall capacity won't be cucked though.

[viscid bone]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/1bex89z/dev_note_state_of_vehicles_for_season_7/

[next onyx]

You know. You can pick up a third c4 through a random crate.

[royal swan]

Recent everyone except engineers lost one c5, they could only hold 2

[next onyx]

Oh thank you.

[remote kiln]

tldr engineers get +1 rockets, assault is only getting 2 C4, turret camera acceleration is being removed and the wildcat is getting stripped of its anti land utilities

[tawny carbon]

They can make it where if Irish enters a vehicle, his gadget gets destroyed instantly

[remote kiln]

still curious about the mentioned before thermals for drivers for tanks but no mention of it here ig

[safe bramble]

considering soflam still hasn't gotten fixed in years i doubt that will ever happen

would be good game design

[remote kiln]

it was explicitly mentioned so not sure why you say that lol

[next onyx]

The question is. Can assault pick up a c4 to round it out to three or is that it's Max capacity.

[tawny carbon]

So… is S7 a big change to 2042?

[vocal tusk]

Hopefully it's max

[remote kiln]

idk why they left these changes till after the trailer still but

we'll see

[tawny carbon]

Full revamped and balancing ?

[next onyx]

It should just be the same with med pens. Set spawn amount and Max inventory amount.

[royal swan]

HOLY SHIT CASPER GOT FUCKED

[remote kiln]

the drone emp removal seems a bit? too far

[next onyx]

It was super useful for sniping gadgets.

[remote kiln]

just make it not able to lock onto vehicles

[tawny carbon]

Drone emp barely gets used in general, why remove it

[royal swan]

I hella abused it

[vocal tusk]

It's crap anyway

[tawny carbon]

I did to. But overall. It barely gets used tho

[vocal tusk]

The range is too low for it to be useful, better to remove and just make it a spot gadget only

[next onyx]

To destroy gadgets it's invaluable.

Namely the aps and random shit.

[royal swan]

We are removing the lock-on that exists on the Y-axis, as well as removing the 40MM Cannon on the Wildcat in order to fully commit this vehicle towards ground to air duty.

[vocal tusk]

Fair enough, but I doubt this change will affect how 99% of players use that gadget

[royal swan]

and there goes the anti tank wildcat

[remote kiln]

it does not "fully commit" it to ground to air

makes it much more geared towards yes but not fully

[royal swan]

rip 40mm

you will not be missed that shit sucked

[vocal tusk]

What are you gonna do, pepper ground targets with AA cannon?

[remote kiln]

wildcat still has anti tank instead of anti air

as long as that's an option it's possible

[vocal tusk]

Anti tank what?

[royal swan]

its the missle that was left

[remote kiln]

^

it still has AT missiles lol

[vocal tusk]

Maybe missed, but also removed.

Patch notes will tell fully

[remote kiln]

unless there's an explicit mention of that I'm not convinced it's gone because that's changing the vehicle more than it has been since it came out

consider me pleasantly surprised if so though

[tawny carbon]

Where do you see these changes?

[viscid bone]

Have y'all enjoyed the unpacks today?

[pine roost]

they sound gorgeous

music to my ears

[viscid bone]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[pine roost]

that turret change is going to feel so nice

[royal swan]

As part of the necessary balance changes that are taking place with this season, we are now in a position to provide further emphasis on the Engineer class as being the main anti-vehicle role. As such, in an upcoming update we’ll be increasing the available RPG, Recoilless and all other era-equivalents by 1. As well as in a later update, revisiting the System Repair balance and Irish APS changes. Crawfords trait will also benefit from these changes in a future update.

[remote kiln]

Kevin is the AT missiles gone from the wildcat or?

I assume that's not the case

[royal swan]

crawford bout to go insane with the launcher amount

[viscid bone]

No more today 😅 that's enough info dropping!

[next onyx]

They've been really good yeah. Though I have a question about c4 if you're able to answer.

Is assault having its spawn c4 reduced or is it its inventory?

[royal swan]

to bad stationary AA is not being added on the other maps

that would've helped

[tawny carbon]

System repair balance? Again for vehicles

[remote kiln]

it's not really feasible to add stationary AA to the maps tbh

[next onyx]

For example. Like how you can have one med pen at spawn but carry 2 at any time.

[royal swan]

on the big maps yeah add them

like hourglass

or breakaway

[remote kiln]

hourglass yes, the others not so much

it definitely can't exist on kal or half the others

[tawny carbon]

Why more AA. There is already a shit ton of AA anyways

[vocal tusk]

I mainly hate vehicles that are half one use, half another. EG, I hate the AA cannon on the LATV4. Leave it be an armored transport...it doesnt need to have mixed uses.

[royal swan]

stranded, nah
spearhead, Maybe
exposure, yes
orbital, nah
kalidoscope, nah
manifest, yeah
flashpoint, nah
renewal, maybe

[remote kiln]

spearhead is a definite no it's way too flat, you would be able to see half of the map from the spawn with it

[royal swan]

unless it's placed near the cubes

[tawny carbon]

Add AA to stadium

[remote kiln]

if it's behind the buildings then it's functionally useless

[royal swan]

remember that the AA in reclaimed were mostly blocked by the sandboxes

[tawny carbon]

Soflam tho

[vocal tusk]

Exposure 64 needs to have new vehicle spawns added to the lower part of the map. That version would be so much better if the top spawns we infy only, the bottm infy and vehicles.

[granite island]

They done killed my man casper

He's just spot man now

[remote kiln]

stationary AA has always had the firestorm problem and it's never really went away, even 10 years on

[tawny carbon]

I wanna know what they are doing to system repair again.

[remote kiln]

that's not in this patch it's after

"we'll address repair in a future update"

[vocal tusk]

Delete it from the game, make tool repair stronger

[tawny carbon]

If they nerf it again. Rip my heli

Repair is already Garbo rn for helis

Takes decades to repair alone

[granite island]

Pocket Crawford needed for heli

[ruby citrus]

got a new processor, god consistent 60fps on 128 never felt so good

[vocal tusk]

Pity hit reg is in the dirt on 128 tho

[royal swan]

Crawford is going to be the next demon for vehicle mains

[vocal tusk]

Always has been

[tawny carbon]

Try 120 fps on 128 its more smoother

[ruby citrus]

yeah he already has been lmao

[ruby citrus]

60hz monitor so yea lmao

[tawny carbon]

Oof 😥

[ruby citrus]

but im hilariously bottlenecked by my gpu now

[vocal tusk]

Able to carry 5 M5s, and has the turret.

[royal swan]

no that was mackay and sundance. he was more of an annoyance

[tawny carbon]

Bring back Sundance emp nades

[fluid torrent]

I would like a 2042 mini series on netflix of HBOMAX

[ruby citrus]

when his passive got originally reworked he was a MENACE, especially in transport choppers

[fluid torrent]

*or

[ruby citrus]

two crawfords sitting and just repairing the chopper made it quite literally immortal in 99% of circumstances

[remote kiln]

?

[ruby citrus]

given how live action halo is going

that sounds like it would be a shitshow

[tawny carbon]

I never had a team for my helis

[vocal tusk]

I kinda wish they made Boris turret more effective if ANY friendly player were near to it.

[granite island]

I hope the stadium has less sand in it

[vocal tusk]

We will see sometime in May

[granite island]

Or no sand

[ruby citrus]

that sounds a bit too strong tbh, enhanced boris turret is really effective now, I wish it had a bigger passive range though

[tawny carbon]

It’s the old hourglass map of stadium, pre reworked

[remote kiln]

it's not

this stadium layout isn't the same

[vocal tusk]

Or just remove infy targetting from the turret, make it more effective when any friendly is near it

[tawny carbon]

The bridge?

[ruby citrus]

still stand by the opinon that original hourglass is the worst designed map I experienced in a shooter period

[remote kiln]

the bridge is the same yes but the center area and inside stadium are different

[ruby citrus]

panzerstorm is maybe 2nd place

[tawny carbon]

Yea. But the outside is exactly like pre reworked

[fluid torrent]

Like a series telling the background about the war in 2042 peace

[vocal tusk]

OG Hourglass was pretty bad, yeah. So many dead areas, long trips between flags, even with a vehicle. One of the most obvious cases of "This map was not made for a core Battlefield game"

[tawny carbon]

My bad I didn’t specify

[ruby citrus]

its also a map with almost 0 cover in between those areas

so its like wow I ran for 3 minutes and got sniped 80% of the way there

[bitter mulch]

But its the prettiest💅

[vocal tusk]

It was a map made for the extraction mode

[ruby citrus]

like, the map is pretty as fuck

the storm and the lights are really damn good looking

but god is it badly designed for gameplay

[remote kiln]

the outside area isn't, this one has a lot more cover, the center point outside is restructured etc, the only thing that is the same is the general conceptual layout and the bridge

[tawny carbon]

i see

[remote kiln]

that's not a bad thing because that was never the issue with it anyways

[ruby citrus]

i really wish we get a standard urban map at some point in the game

the maps are either like super wide open areas or meat grinders, with only a handful of exceptions

[vocal tusk]

I love that old stadium flagg thats just in the center of a bowl with no cover...the area they highlight in the reveal trailer

[ruby citrus]

my fav thing about the stadium is that the seats looked like they were made for ants

[vocal tusk]

Or the old hourglass town flag thats just a big rectangle with literally no cover.

The the south of the monument

[frozen geode]

The second half of the season starts in May. So my guess is we'll have season 8 for summer and DICE will call it

[ruby citrus]

like idk about anyone else but I don't really enjoy meat grinder maps

granted redacted has been sort of okay

[remote kiln]

from what I understand vaguely from the trailer about the layout of stadium there is a elevator shaft directly inside from the outside area on the bottom floor, the stadium outer segment has been expanded for broader cover coverage and it seems to be a lot wider, interesting overall

[vocal tusk]

I get bored of redacted like maps very fast. I love maps like Exposure

[royal swan]

oh I just found the increase flare time

damn helis bout to go mental

[ruby citrus]

exposure feels like the other end of the extreme, its so vertical

theres a reason D is a wasteland, cuz everyone knows that if they go and cap it they're gonna run and zipline for the next 3 minutes to get anywhere

or whatever the point is in 128 thats like bottom of the slope

[vocal tusk]

Arica harbor is probs my favorite map in this game tho.

[ruby citrus]

exposure is sundance heaven though

[vocal tusk]

I wish they made battle of the Bulge not conquest assault tho. that map is really great, but its not in any official rotations

[ruby citrus]

manifest is low key great, if only mackay and sundance werent a thing camping the top of the containers

[frozen geode]

Remove special abilities and some of the maps INSTANTLY play better

[tawny carbon]

I wish we have better urban maps like from BF4

[ruby citrus]

mackay and sundance ruin a bunch of maps just by existing

they're balancing nightmares

[remote kiln]

forget them ever adding actual urban maps to 2042 this late in the game lol

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, just delete wingsuits and grapple hooks from the lore.

[remote kiln]

if they refused for bf4

they are never doing it for this

[frozen geode]

I mean literally. These two are at the top of ruining 2042 experience

[ruby citrus]

the one thing that battlebit did soo much better than battlefield is map design

every other map is urban and like really well designed urban

provence in BFV was so good

[frozen geode]

Can't play redacted without the scatter nade spam.

[royal swan]

so crawford can have 6 rockets

[ruby citrus]

tanks get their open field playground, infantry get their urban combat heaven

[royal swan]

i forgot how many he can hold

[remote kiln]

then don't play redacted

[royal swan]

5 or 6

[ruby citrus]

redacted is my go-to mastery farming map

[remote kiln]

6 in total after this yeah

[royal swan]

may be better than lis

6 rockets go hard

[ruby citrus]

debatable

lis is still disgustingly good

[frozen geode]

The map is fun. Ruined by cheese

[remote kiln]

that's why the map exists

[ruby citrus]

but like

[remote kiln]

it's locker 2.0

[ruby citrus]

multiple 6 AA crawfords would be a menace

[remote kiln]

you're not supposed to think it's a strategy focused map

[ruby citrus]

no fly zone

[frozen geode]

It's better than locker. But that's just my opinion

[ruby citrus]

way better than locker

[frozen geode]

The best map in this category is OP underground imo

[remote kiln]

yes it's much better than locker but it still has it's traits, by it's design

[ruby citrus]

has actual flank spots and doesnt have a map spanning hallway

[remote kiln]

cheese and other stuff is a attribute of a map

[ruby citrus]

meat grinder map
looks inside
meat grinder

[remote kiln]

technically, it does

it's just split up

[ruby citrus]

i mean yeah but it aint remotely as bad as locker/metro

[remote kiln]

locker and metro are bad because their choke points are the issue, not the layouts of the halls themselves

[frozen geode]

I once saw a McKay in the vent fences in the ceiling of the tunnels in redacted

[remote kiln]

well with metro it has a secondary issue in that you can glitch out the map still to this day but

that's secondary

[ruby citrus]

when the vents start talking

[remote kiln]

locker too*

[frozen geode]

I just shot him knowing it IS possible lmao

[ruby citrus]

but yeah the domes split up the action quite well on redacted

and the flank routes are actl rly good

[frozen geode]

That's my point, then there are Sundance and her scatter nades and dozer shields ruining it

SPH launcher 🤦🏻‍♂️

[remote kiln]

replace scatter grenades with actual grenades, and dozer shields with Irish fortification, same thing

[frozen geode]

But actual nades don't refill without an ammo box

Scatters are her ability

[remote kiln]

they still have a faster refill time than scatter grenades do

you can equip 2 of them aswell

[tawny carbon]

^

ammo box ftw

[ruby citrus]

Easiest T1 irish ever is just going into redacted breakthrough and slapping down an ads near a choke

[remote kiln]

emp says hello

[ruby citrus]

Almost no one runs them though, but yeah they hard counter it

[remote kiln]

unfortunately true

[next onyx]

I finished getting Irish done in bt 128. That was fun.

The ultimate irony out of all of this is that I have no engineers tier 1'd.

[remote kiln]

I still don't think most folk know the trophy system doesn't stop smoke or emp

[frozen geode]

But they need to rely on their teammates. And a nade doesn't explode into sub nades that cover a wider area

[ruby citrus]

Also seeing that onslaught of “projectile destroyed” popups really pumps those happy hormones lmao

[next onyx]

They used to now they do its really annoying.

[ruby citrus]

Yeah but emp usually still goes through

[next onyx]

When you get 8 projectiles destroy in a row.

[frozen geode]

I never played Irish. How does it get destroyed without anyone shooting it down?

Because I see it happen

[remote kiln]

it's still generally more powerful than scatter grenades, the trophy system is the main issue with scatter, and it's everywhere on redacted

[ruby citrus]

EMPs probably

They can be shot down by an irish but it cant react fast enough usually and gets oneshot by the emp

[tawny carbon]

i want Sundance EMP back again

[next onyx]

Oh no I'm saying is that it's weird. It didn't block c4, then it did now it doesn't its the back and forth which gets oh shit.

[frozen geode]

Yeah I know APS😁

[remote kiln]

fuck that

[tawny carbon]

y?

[frozen geode]

That's why I see them fall apart without anyone touching them

[ruby citrus]

Having a buddy emp their ads and then going to town with zain is literally a golden strat on breakthrough, esp redacted

[remote kiln]

Sundance would be the best specialist by a country mile on redacted with emp lmao

it would be that bad they'd need to allow the trophy system to intercept it

[tawny carbon]

they took it out because it was underperforming

[ruby citrus]

No one wants to run emp because everyone wants to get the kills so they run frags lmao

[remote kiln]

ye but if you give it to Sundance you have a literal, one man army

infinite reloading* not stoppable one in this case

[frozen geode]

I hated that APS intercepted smoke nades

[ruby citrus]

I wish sundance got her anti vehicle grenade back

It was like negligible damage you tossed when you had nothing to cluster

Why did they remove it

[tawny carbon]

i mean, Sundance needs buff

[next onyx]

They removed sundances grenades cause they counted as additional gadgets for them.

That's the only logic that makes sense.

[remote kiln]

the anti air mine was removed because for pilots it was seen as a missile lock on

[tawny carbon]

underperforming, it also had very bad tracking to

[remote kiln]

tldr

[ruby citrus]

I mean if you see the missile incoming without a lock and pop flares thats a genuine skill issue

[tawny carbon]

the tracking range was so awful

and to slow

[remote kiln]

that's it, you couldnt see it unless you were literally 20m away, it would maintain it's lock forever and never actually hit anything half the time

[frozen geode]

Man these conversations only point to the amount of wrong decisions this game is plagued with

[remote kiln]

the game now is much better than it was

but yes, there's some things that can't be changed

[tawny carbon]

it mainly got taken out due to annoyance and no indicator from it

[ruby citrus]

Maybe i forgot what it worked like, but if i remember properly, it just gave a missile incoming warning without an “enemy locking on” beforehand, similar to lis missiles?

In either case you dont want to flare

[frozen geode]

Well yeah. I just genuinely hope they've learned their lesson

[tawny carbon]

yes, but still annoying

[remote kiln]

nope, it showed a "missile incoming" warning then would disappear and reappear at random as it was a radius based utility, so a pilot would see 5 random warnings flash and disappear at random because it would lose and reacquire it's targeting

[ruby citrus]

Ok yeah that sounds rough

But why not fix that instead of going “nah easier to just remove it”

[next onyx]

They tried.

[remote kiln]

probably cause they'd need to rework the entire gadget to fix it id guess

[next onyx]

I don't believe it was primarily removed cause of that.

[tawny carbon]

you know lis rocket have the light? sundance emp had a light as well

[ruby citrus]

Yeah probably a mountain of spaghetti code lmao

[remote kiln]

the only actual thing for that is to do line of sight based tracking and that is well not the same gadget fundamentally

[tawny carbon]

you had to spam flares way more before due to emp nades

[remote kiln]

anti air mine to a (actual missile)

[next onyx]

You could fly away from the anti armour grenades.

It was funny.

[ruby citrus]

Them locking onto a jet was hilarious

[tawny carbon]

still chases you, even tho it was slow like a sloth

[frozen geode]

Guys what kind of deaths makes you furious in 2042 lmao

[remote kiln]

ones that you can't do anymore

[ruby citrus]

Helicopters, period

[next onyx]

Emp's would have been removed I believe anyways.b

No matter what.

Since they removed emps from assault.

[ruby citrus]

A good nightbird makes me change my entire gameplan where the only mission is to shoot it down

[frozen geode]

Why? It's a combined arms game

[remote kiln]

this game has went through a 2.0 version and 2.5 based "re-release" somehow, the stuff that was blatantly annoying got removed long ago

[ruby citrus]

Nightbirds are genuinely broken in the right hands and nigh unstoppable outside of a well skilled lis player

[frozen geode]

I can only say that they're much easier to pilot than bf3-4

[remote kiln]

example, magically dying because the opposite team managed to climb up the side of a building with a hovercraft and have their squad spawn at the top

[tawny carbon]

ngl launch was my favorite days of my whole 2042 playtime

miss the first couple months

[ruby citrus]

I got 2042 like a year and a half ago when it was dirt cheap on sale

[frozen geode]

But other than that, I don't get mad at them

[ruby citrus]

It’s how I get all my battlefield games

Wait a bit then grab it for criminally low prices

Got bfv for like 4 bucks

[frozen geode]

Lmao I just remembered being one shot by a TOR tank mid sky in a jet from across the map

[ruby citrus]

Cant wait to mess with the wire guided missile

[thick robin]

Predatory SRAW

[tawny carbon]

personally, 2042 is way better now, but way more boring than launch days. game completely changed and flip flopped

[frozen geode]

😂😂😂😂

[tawny carbon]

lol, he thought he had you

[frozen geode]

Whoa why are these so big lmao

[tawny carbon]

remember bolte bug?

omg

[frozen geode]

nice shooting btw. That pilot must be pissed

[tawny carbon]

the map? or what

[frozen geode]

The goddam emojis

[tawny carbon]

o my b xD

[frozen geode]

Needs to be addressed lmao. Who thought these big ass emojis look good

[spiral ibex]

it was only good when the funny glitches were happening, not game breaking ones tbh

[tawny carbon]

https://youtu.be/LRroEHFw9ZE?si=vtByA-ROBBX3jBJu cant hit long sniper shots like these anymore

love my old breakaway map

miss the high peak

[thick robin]

I once hit an XCE BAR shot from 500+ meters away on Kaleidoscope once

[tawny carbon]

i hit XCE almost 1k

[thick robin]

Epic

[tawny carbon]

close combat rounds also xD

[remote kiln]

sorry nothing will ever top this

[frozen geode]

What's the range? I'm on my phone in bed lmao. Can't see it

[thick robin]

Galaxy Brain

[tawny carbon]

1900m

[frozen geode]

Ho lee sheet

[thick robin]

Robbery

[remote kiln]

just takes the jet like it's normal

[tawny carbon]

now maps can barely reach 1.4k xD

[tawny carbon]

big brain moment

[frozen geode]

Epic

[remote kiln]

I've got so many dumb clips

[frozen geode]

Lmao

[tawny carbon]

sheesh he came in fast like flash

[frozen geode]

Did we have increased ads movement speed for SMGs in other bf titles?

[remote kiln]

3 did yes

[frozen geode]

Some SMGs had it in their spec tree jn BFV

[frozen geode]

Fr?

[remote kiln]

3 had different ADS speeds for each weapon category, some were slower than others

smgs were faster than lmgs etc

[frozen geode]

And why didn't they carry it over to BF4

Wtf

[tawny carbon]

kek

[remote kiln]

because it was there in 3 mainly for suppression

[frozen geode]

I played bf3 for a limited time and assault exclusively

[remote kiln]

which was the worst mechanic ever in this franchise

the idea was you could "get around" suppression because you could aim faster, but when bullets go anywhere they want it never actually worked in practice

[frozen geode]

Oh I meant moving while in ADS

Not the ADS speed itself

[remote kiln]

oh, they were all the same in 3

I don't think anything else other than 5 done it

[tawny carbon]

my old Y1 clip

[frozen geode]

And it was found in some weapons' spec tree not just SMGs

I always wondered why they don't explore this for balancing weapon categories like CoD does.

And now they're doing it for season 7

[remote kiln]

you get the Mackay issue is why

it's a very delicate thing to do right

[frozen geode]

I hate that guy

[next onyx]

I don't hate Mackay as much anymore.

But that's because of zainanigans.

[naive magnet]

Who’s the most hated specialist then?

[remote kiln]

only took neutering him by half to make him not annoying

[frozen geode]

Mackay and Sundance

[remote kiln]

depends on what map you're on

[naive magnet]

Post Buff Boris for me

[remote kiln]

it can easily change

[pine roost]

looking forward to this update

[naive magnet]

His turret is way too annoying now lol, but I agree with that idea, cause you can get maps where Blasco or Dozer are annoying

[wide shore]

For me it’s Dozer and Sundance

Dozer is the worst. Idc what game it is, riot shield need to just never exist

[frozen geode]

Some people were already whining as why the C5 is reduced on assault from 3 to 2
I guess all of them are Sundance and McKays that can't flank a tank and one man it down

[patent pivot]

would it be least better if he isnt allowed to use primary gun

[naive magnet]

I mean, it’s really annoying to play dozer, but I feel like he gets balanced by when you’re dozer and you die to literal BS

[patent pivot]

just asking

[naive magnet]

And the emotional damage of getting meleed by some weird angle, or killed by bullets when you’re covered is taken into consideration

[remote kiln]

dozer exists to be annoying, not to be balanced

reminder for folk but he used to be able to absorb tank shells

[frozen geode]

How does killing a Boris and dying to his turret feel?

[remote kiln]

I love people who place the turret

they become free kills

[next onyx]

Dozer is really the only annoying one to die to.

[remote kiln]

nothing like giving away that you're nearby

[robust vapor]

D0kzer

[wide shore]

No. Riot shields are never balanced. Every game they’re in they’re a complete nuisance. They should be gone and never come back

[next onyx]

If the turret glows red yeah they're in proxy.

[patent pivot]

ok

then how about this

his shield is vulnerable to shotgun and sniper rounds

[next onyx]

To disallow a primary weapon on dozer makes no sense.

[patent pivot]

[remote kiln]

dice thought they needed to add a "indicator" to be balanced but no infact it just turns Boris into a free kill

[next onyx]

In my experience dozer is super fun to play as but the shield just rewards utter cunts.

[wide shore]

Even just removing his explosive damage would make him less insufferable to come up against

[frozen geode]

Wait, what indicator?

[next onyx]

The shield is fantastic cover for teammates.

[wide shore]

But if you get caught in a small room by a dozer you just lose. Nothing you can do

[next onyx]

Just people go monkey brain and think the shield is useless if it can't kill.

[patent pivot]

and I thought Hardline shield was op

[naive magnet]

You can strafe like a crazy person and end up getting him

[remote kiln]

as way said if the turret glows red it means the Boris player is near the vicinity to the turret

[patent pivot]

[next onyx]

Hardlines shield isn't.

Explain how it was.

[patent pivot]

never used it, so I assume it cant deflect all firepower

[wide shore]

It was dumb that it protected your back when unequipped

[frozen geode]

I thought it only gives away the turrets position lmao

[naive magnet]

I’m like 40 kills from T1 dozer, kinda grinding redacted now with him, but I got him to 1200 pre-redacted

[patent pivot]

and doesnt protect the users body

[next onyx]

You don't know what you're on about.

[patent pivot]

tell me

[next onyx]

The shield had durability.

[remote kiln]

nah it's a radius based thing so it makes the Boris player a free kill

[patent pivot]

4 too?

[next onyx]

It wasn't infinite nor was it good at killing.

Bf4's glass broke.

[frozen geode]

Good to know this extra info lmao. Wtf

[next onyx]

In hardlline it would full on disintegrate.

[patent pivot]

so which shield is the weskest

[tawny carbon]

found my other clip xD

[remote kiln]

they don't tell you these things ingame but yeah there are things where abilities turns the player into a liability ironically

[next onyx]

It was relatively balanced. Just wasn't used seriously because all people cared for was for enforcer syndicate.

Dbs my beloved.

[naive magnet]

How are attack helicopters balanced

[frozen geode]

I'm an aggressive Falck main. That's why I'm salty about these abilities lmao

[remote kiln]

slow reload for missiles + not great at air engagement unless you are on the secondary gunner

also less nimble than the little bird and a bigger hitbox

[next onyx]

Falck has infinite health anyways in a game where constant chip is a thing.

[tawny carbon]

when condor guns heat consumption was slow asf, good ol days

[frozen geode]

Most of the skill for piloting helis are thrown out of the window by being too easy to fly

[lone onyx]

So is everyone ready for season 7! Hope its a step forward for the franchise!

[patent pivot]

dont get too excited

[frozen geode]

I agree with this. Add ammo box to it as well lmao

[lone onyx]

Oh im old enough to always b pesimistic 🤣 a small step forward is all im hoping for

[naive magnet]

I think the number of helis compared to its affected counters is way unbalanced though, Lis used to be at least a fair counter with mobility with her missiles, but now not only is it somehow not a one shot on Attack Choppers, but it’s mobility is limited

[remote kiln]

there's a big gap between flying a Heli, and being ashebf level of flying

[patent pivot]

you might as well play old BF

[tawny carbon]

average dok moment

[robust vapor]

When you almost kill d0k

Not even close cause d0k alive

[frozen geode]

That's one of a kind we don't count that lmao

[lone onyx]

I still do.

[naive magnet]

Now you have a Wildcat that a good chopper can counter solo, and like a powered up MAV that your team won’t spawn in effectively to do it

[robust vapor]

[tawny carbon]

dok have that one hit kill protection at all times

dok op

[remote kiln]

it's not, it being a one shot was a ass broken mechanic and was not a "fair mechanic", infantry have countless utilities in this game to take down aircraft than they have ever had in older games

[robust vapor]

D0k can finally carpet bomb people like back in 1917

[tawny carbon]

carpet dok runs'

[robust vapor]

D0kgyr Draugyr

[remote kiln]

they will have the sraw soon too aswell

[naive magnet]

That balances it a bit more

[remote kiln]

DICE have just made it slightly inconvenient where you can't switch off your brain anymore and down aircraft and that's why people are complaining

you need a tiny amount of effort now

[naive magnet]

I think flak needs to travel further though

I actively try for helis lol

A good heli pilot carries everything

[remote kiln]

they tried with flak and it became the best vehicle category in the game and it got reverted

[tawny carbon]

people needs to be handicapped against aircrafts