battlefield-2042

[royal swan]

Do y'all really think there was going to be a turning point in the gameplay

That's hilarious

[velvet sand]

I think that's a result of how lore/narrative are handled in 2042, in that unless you look really hard for it you'd miss just about all of it.

[ebon pilot]

Does anyone play battlefield for lore?

[royal swan]

Yeah you gotta look for the lore to understand it

[velvet sand]

So it's not unreasonable for folks to expect the gameplay/content update to be named reflecting the content of the update, rather than a narrative development that maybe like 50 people actually know/care about.

[royal swan]

Does anyone play any multiplayer game for lore

[torpid wadi]

Honestly I think the lore is neat

[royal swan]

Like do people actually do that

There isn't even a campaign

No one is playing for the lore

[drowsy shuttle]

the recoil changes in the update might be the best thing in the new season... (and i have hopes the map is going to be good... at least looks cool)

[woeful python]

hell divers, destiny

[royal swan]

They don't exist

[velvet sand]

which is the criticism: why name an update after a narrative/lore-based development when nobody knows about it and the name leads to confusion? : P

[royal swan]

Destiny is more coop single player story

[ebon pilot]

i refuse to believe anyone is playing fucking helldivers of all games for lore

[woeful python]

funny they say two new maps and one is just a single building from another map

[velvet sand]

for the "lore" no, but for the vibes of the world and worldbuilding? Yeah, that's a huge bit.

[woeful python]

it actually has good lore

or fun lore i should say

[ebon pilot]

it definitely doesn't take itself seriously

[velvet sand]

It's easy to get into the lore/world of Helldivers and the game is basically forcing you into that world from the moment you step foot on your ship with broadcast messages. There's zero analog in 2042 to that...maybe the loading screen messages that nobody understands because they're random lore snippets you need to read player cards and blog posts to understand?

[royal swan]

Honestly I believe the lack of a campaign is the reason no one cares for the lore

[patent pivot]

Only thing I recognize is from Irish

[royal swan]

Good thing the next game is set to have a campaign

[frail sparrow]

wasn that battlefield sp project cancelled?

[lone void]

The lore is fun tho

[velvet sand]

It's because the lore literally isn't presented to players in any way unless they spend a ton of effort hunting it down in and out of game, that's it. You don't need a campaign to fix that problem.

[ebon pilot]

but the lore doesn't really matter. like helldivers lore, it's just there. it's just a backdrop to a big sandbox where you're given a bunch of gameplay elements to fuck around with

[novel zephyr]

People are memeing on the season 7 trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iA2r7nS7DU

[woeful python]

eh I think helldivers shows perfectly how to incorporate lore/a purpose to the game like you actually have fun being a heroic man fighting for liberty

[novel zephyr]

Comments are honestly 10/10 there

[pine roost]

‘My name is jeff’
-Jeff

[lone void]

I love that everyone is freaking out over the battlefield theme being in the trailer when it was already in the S5 trailer too

[velvet sand]

who is freaking out over what theme?

[lone void]

It isn't groundbreaking

The comments about the score on the S7 trailer

Obsessing over the dun dun duns

[patent pivot]

Just simply add short missions that are like challenges, where you play as each spec

[velvet sand]

Where, YT?

[pine roost]

That it features the theme?

[patent pivot]

Little lore here and there

[pine roost]

Shocker

[patent pivot]

[ebon pilot]

ok we gotta talk about more pressing issues

[lone void]

I know it's mad isn't it

[ebon pilot]

who allowed this to happen

[lone void]

Fuck you unbullpups your VHX

[royal swan]

Honestly the soundtrack on the trailer is just 👌

[granite island]

I just realized last Gen never experienced the stadium

[pine roost]

Well if they can get excited over the theme that’s played in practically every trailer thus far, good for them

[granite island]

Literally didn't exist for them

[lone void]

It was removed because of last gen

[woeful python]

ik who tf thought christmas colors would look cool and gritty

[lone void]

Even when it wasn't an active part of the map the assets loading crashed it

[novel zephyr]

they cut out the stadium of hourglass only to resell it as a 'new map'.

[torpid wadi]

It just works

[ebon pilot]

like it was literally fine 2 cuts earlier what did they do

[quaint vector]

Yo... Is that the first Falck Skin ever without gloves.?

[novel zephyr]

Turning Point is fitting, because everyone's turning away from battlefield and looking towards helldivers amung other games.

[lone void]

I am coping over the stadium map thing hard, I wanted something original. I don't hate it, but I didn't want it

[granite island]

I'm quite sad the drone air vehicle thing is mid season

But oh well

[velvet sand]

I don't think folks realize how bad it is that DICE shipped Hourglass with a large portion that couldn't even function on last-gen rofl.

[ebon pilot]

oh hey that's what everyone said about battlebit

[velvet sand]

If the comments about the stadium not being on hourglass on last-gen are true.

[novel zephyr]

Dude, don't pull punches when all dice tries to do is pull your wallet's money.

[granite island]

It's true

[velvet sand]

Like, that's such a monumental waste of resources that explains so much about the launch quality of the game.

[lone void]

Last gen is such a hindrance they shouldn't have even released it on those consoles

[granite island]

It wasn't available on last gen

Like observatory

On breakaway

If there is a next season maybe observatory is next

Idk

[royal swan]

I want observatory back, only if they add a whole new area inside the mountain

Another meat grinder

[novel zephyr]

Not really, PS4/XBO could easily handle that type of game, the only issue is that DICE put investors first instead of base game functionality.

[velvet sand]

the more I learn about just how many awful, wasteful, stupid things DICE did leading into launch, even years later, the more and more the games immediately faceplanting and committing sudoku makes so much sense

[pine roost]

You will get the observatory alone and you will like it

[novel zephyr]

*sepiku

[granite island]

Observatory tdm only map

16v16

[velvet sand]

I know what I wrote and I mean what I wrote : P

[novel zephyr]

Sudoku is a numbers game you can usually find

in newspapers

BlockBuster has more relevency than 2042 at this point.

[lone void]

I enjoyed playing in it, but I definitely wanted an actually original new map. I'm more annoyed that they could have just said it was such from the start instead of hyping up a re-release of a portion of a map that was cut because of a decision to release the game on a platform that couldn't run it

[novel zephyr]

Or how about the fact that in six months' time they only add cosmetics, one original map that's not a lazy rehash like nuketown, and better yet, only TWO new guns?

[granite island]

I just hope the sand 2 map isn't like reclaimed

64p only

[novel zephyr]

People said I was wrong to hate on 2042 but the mounting issues only give my loathing more credence by the day.

[granite island]

The map looks big

So there's that

[velvet sand]

That's arguably my biggest problem. It genuinely seems DICE has learned nothing since launch and that the old Freeman commitments to improvemed communications died when he left the company. Back to overpromising and underdelivering, and being unneccessarily vague for literally no reason.

[lone void]

I think the main issue is the issues always seem to remain the same, not necessarily mounting

[velvet sand]

For how much they've improved the game over the past few years, their communication feels as bad as it did before 2042 shipped.

[novel zephyr]

They think being an edgelord from the bowls of tumblr would make themsleves 'cool'

it's honestly cringe

[novel zephyr]

It stacks, because the more you ignore cracks in a dam, the wider they spread and deepen overtime if left unadressed.

DICE has MASSIVE PC hacker issues, broken maps, hitboxes, and barebones experiences with 2042.

[ebon pilot]

massive hacker issues?? where???

[spare quest]

[novel zephyr]

I played it only a handful of times but honestly there really wasn't all that much to play with. Vehicle spawn timers never synced up properly, the weapons had jank recoil that was automatic and in no way controllable, the weapons sound like nerf toys, I could go on.

[ebon pilot]

i've seen like maybe 3

since launch

[velvet sand]

I know hackers still periodically exist but in all the time I've played 2042 (not much while waiting on S7 right now), I've run into maybe one.

[novel zephyr]

On 2042? No, they still (somewhat) keep that clean, but the other games?

All I hear is that BF4, 1, and V are all rife with hackers on PC.

[velvet sand]

I know BF 1/V have a fair number, I've sorta stopped playing both as a result.

[torpid wadi]

Aye I hear V is real bad

[queen violet]

how do i change my nick name in here

thats if i wanted to

[novel zephyr]

They don't care to maintain their servers in the slightest.

[velvet sand]

You don't, because your named after the best movie of all time.

[novel zephyr]

cloudy with a chance of meatballs?

[queen violet]

awesome movies.. my name is jason so makes it a bonus

[novel zephyr]

Back to the glaring issues at hand here, battlefield peaked at BF1, but due to the horrid company and reputation killing shitfest that was and still is BFV and Battlefront 2, DICE is honestly on their last roll.

And I don't see any boxcars in their near future, only snake eyes.

I left cod and went to battlefield because I got sick of the 'cosmetics' being pandered too along with all the other bullshit of there being horrid spawn systems, bad imput delays and worse still, repetitive gameplay overall. Each battlefield felt unique, fun and inovatide with each installment actually being improvements on every prior game.

Now with only just two games, DICE became diet cod

Battlefield became the very reason collectively why I left cod's multiplayer.

[frail sparrow]

honestly, bfv was still pretty darn great. and its live service expanded its gameplay to incorperate gameplay stuff from bf hardline and stuff. plus you could feel the care in animations and stuff knowing they actually bothered to record the last zero plane and going out to a gun range to record and handle actual ww2 weaponry. i feel a lot of the devs left after bfv to do their own thing. i can still feel the charm of bf3 and stuff in The Finals due it is made by ex-dice people, but with 2042? that attention of detail of DICE is just missing.

i mean just compare rotterdam to kaleidoscope. the map of rotterdam feels pretty accurate to the real world counterpart with some liberty taken for gameplay reasons. the park in real life korea looks entire different than what we have in-game...

[lone void]

am I missing the part where there are 3 new guns and everyone is saying there's only 2?

[ebon pilot]

you just compared looks vs feels

[spare quest]

Everyone who says only 2 weapons didn't watch the trailer to the end

[normal iris]

What's the thied

Haven't qatched

[ebon pilot]

it's an LMG

[torpid wadi]

Do we know which one? Didn’t see the whole trailer

[normal iris]

Still no fal

[frail sparrow]

please explain

[lone void]

literally on the bloody BP overview card

it's right there

[ebon pilot]

because the LMG has ** next to it and at the bottom it says **Coming in update 7.2

[granite island]

They should increase recoiless projectile speed

[lone void]

AK-5C, Skorpion Evo and an LMG

[velvet sand]

people are joking/shitposting about one of the new weapons dropping in 7.2 and not available at launch

[torpid wadi]

Lord please be an mg3

[velvet sand]

which I concur with, it's pretty lame that the second map/third weapon/vehicle are all coming 1-2 months post launch in a season that was already coming after a delayed, 5-month long season/wait.

[torpid wadi]

It won’t but I pray none the less

[median tusk]

live service drip feeding has been a disaster for the quality of multiplayer games

[lone void]

but it's still 3 new weapons, I don't get it

[frail sparrow]

i'm wondering why we haven't gotten another m5 😦

[velvet sand]

because even with the season being delayed it sure feels like the seaason isn't complete and they're shipping a standard season in 5 months. because realistically if they delayed S7 one more month to add the missing weapon/vehicle/map to the launch content it wouldn't be two seasons worth of content. if we want to get pedantic and shitty about it

[frail sparrow]

i do like we getting another ak

[torpid wadi]

I should really unlock the rpk74

I like that classic ak drip

[ebon pilot]

the map of rotterdam feels pretty accurate
the park in real life korea looks entire different
these are two completely separate statements. the fact that rotterdam feels accurate doesn't support your argument that kaleidoscope is worse because it doesn't look accurate

[hardy crest]

when the new season will drop ?

[ebon pilot]

next week

[hardy crest]

ok ty

[lone void]

How many people are actively working on this game?

do we know?

[ashen siren]

Far too late for any need to hype shit up with a trailer, etc..,

[velvet sand]

No.

[lilac dust]

I also dont like sand. It's course rough and irritating and it gets everywhere

[velvet sand]

All we know is that resources have been taken off 2042 to work on the next BF.

[hardy crest]

what ?!!

am just asking when it will drop

whats wrong with that

[lone void]

next tuesday

[mental delta]

LMG comes mid-season apparently, which is extremely dumb if true

[lone void]

and then we wonder why things are seemingly being half-arsed

[karmic egret]

3 weapons is hella disappointing

[spare quest]

LMG, stadium and bomber are all coming mid season

[karmic egret]

Wot

[hardy crest]

so stadium will be meat grinder

[ashen siren]

Relax dude. Every time someone's asked that question, 99% of the time they follow up with how hyped they are, etc 😉

[lone void]

shit grinder

[hardy crest]

also new map from what i aw in trailer is not interesting

[hardy crest]

aha am asking want to play but am not hyped , didnt play for long time

[normal iris]

i guess ill just see if the skorpion is fune to play

if not then leave

[hardy crest]

i wished was some sky scraper thing map

[ashen siren]

Cool story

[normal iris]

new lmg looking someairsoft m4 lmg conversion

[frail sparrow]

using my own words against me, how rude. /s but yer right xd but like. rotterdam uses elements pretty closely to its real world counterpart with the train bridge, the canal, underground parts and so on. it's a good representation of its real world counterpart. meanwhile kaleidoscope is fairly flat terrain with no real bushes for cover. whereas its real world counterpart is fairly hilly and filled with vegetation that breaks up line of sight. (atleast from what i see on google, haven't been in korea yet) it's not taking advantage or exagarrating elements of the real world counterpart to make a meaningful map.

it's like they never been there, but just made up their own rendition of the map with the idea of having a park in the middle of an urban city.

[karmic egret]

I was hoping at least 4 weapons 3 is not good enough

[velvet sand]

I mean, things still sure feel half assed and the "why" is irrelevant. I just hope they reverse course on the BP progression and make it faster again. Last season felt like hot ass in all the worst ways with how long that grind was to padd out the extra months.

[ashen siren]

I would much rather they created their own city/environment, which means they're not wasting time and resources trying to recreate some irrelevant details in the real-world. It hurts development in areas that actually need attention that make the game playable, not shit, etc.

[novel zephyr]

Recording plane noises and firing guns at a range is all well and good but when the game's a half-baked mess and overall shitshow, there's not really anything worth singing praises over.

[karmic egret]

New Battlefield game is likely about to start main production

[frail sparrow]

i dunno, i kinda like the more settled in reality locations more than fictional fights more when it comes to battlefield. it's hella cool blowing up real world stuff. .. wait don't take that otu of context

[velvet sand]

It's in production, EA has talked about it. And they're describing it much as they described 2042 when it was in development, which is sure a reasurring thing (it's not).

[karmic egret]

It's still likely in pre production but nearing the end

[mental delta]

Dice be like : "you'll have to wait 6 months for new season, half the content arrives mid-season and the second map is just remake, now fuck you bastards"

[frail sparrow]

was it though? aside from the live service shenigauns like ttk tweaks and reverts, the anti-cheat, it's imo one of the better bf games in terms of gameplay, visuals, destruction and maps

[velvet sand]

pre-production in early 2022 - https://www.gameinformer.com/2022/03/24/next-battlefield-enters-pre-production-valuable-lessons-were-learned-from-battlefield

so very unlikely still in preproduction unless they're really aiming to replicate BioWare wasting all their Anthem preproducction time with nothing to show for it.

[novel zephyr]

it's a solid 4.5/10

[junior galleon]

guess your happy the new map is almost all arica harbor assets

[mental delta]

No it's not lol, next BF game began its preproduction in very early 2022 (maybe even in late 2021), which means it's not in preproduction anymore since end of 2022 at max

[karmic egret]

Idk

That's 2 years of actually building the game

[junior galleon]

2042 fans be like: well at least the game wasnt cancelled! battlefield fans will never be satisfied!

[karmic egret]

You think EA would allow that

[velvet sand]

Yes. EA hasn't been the big bad that's "the worst company in the USA" in a long time (and they never really were) even as they were garbage. And arguably their bigger problem in recent years is allowing studios to blow tons of time with little to show for it (see: BW's troubles with Anthem and ME:A, BF2042's problems which weren't apparently the problem of EA micromanaging etc.). EA has tons of problems and reasons they're bad, but I'm unconvinced this would be one of them. BF's development costs are comparitively lower than other bigger franchises, and while it's an important reputational tentpole for EA BF hasn't been the financial tentpole it once was in a long time. If BF matches Apex's annual revenue during a launch year it's doing well, and Apex puts those numbers out annually.

[lilac dust]

Why couldn't they just remove the sand on the other half of the stadium and give us a FULL stadium. That would feel like a new map

[junior galleon]

too much work

[lilac dust]

I guess they needed 5 more months to do that 🙃

[mental delta]

Lmao we're all joking and shit but I've unironically seen someone say the second thing on Twitter today when talking about the Stadium remake thing

[junior galleon]

yep lmao

[junior galleon]

lol yeah, it's unfortunate peoples standards are so low nowadays

[lilac dust]

There was a lot of feedback from people to get the stadium back in the game. The way they went about doing it is super disappointing

[mental delta]

Totally agree, live service thing has never been an excuse because almost nobody asked for it in the first place

[mental delta]

I agree, I was one of those who wanted to see that stadium back, but I would have preferred it as an additionnal part for Houglass layout, instead it's just a "map" playable only on foot

[velvet sand]

They did it the quickest and most cost-effective way. Minimal effort so they could claim double the maps! I'm sure the team working on it did work hard and did their best and I don't want to dismiss that, but from a leadership level it's bullshit swampass.

[lilac dust]

Based on the technical issues they talked about in a podcast with the devs I understand it wasn't easy to bring the stadium back and it took time, but that doesn't give them the right to pass it off as a new map lmao

[velvet sand]

ye. I think our issues continue to be with the people steering the ship/leading rather than the few poor souls left doing the actual work.

[junior galleon]

lol yeah that was incredibly disappointing, the pr team knew what they were doing

[spare quest]

[mental delta]

Devs aren't the ones to blame tbh, heads of offices are the fucking incompetent people lol

Makes you wonder where they find all those crazy ass dudes

Did they even play 1 BF game at least once ?

[velvet sand]

well, last creative director left not too long ago apparently so who knows who's in charge now. It's gonna be hilarious in a few years when Vince is the de-facto "old timer" in leadership despite just being put in charge of the franchise a few years ago.

[lilac dust]

So Jackfrags said the new haven map was in DICE's words "A labour of love" ......... It doesn't look even a fraction as unique and interesting as Redacted

If Arica harbor 2.0 is a labour of a love then I'm a sea turtle

[junior galleon]

guys remember, if dice makes it with love, run for the hills

[lilac dust]

It was a labour of love to add "Slightly more arica harbor buildings to arica harbor" and call it a new map 🙂

[mental delta]

Lol yes apparently a dude who was here since 2022 only just left, kinda worrying about the current leadership and the relation between EA and Dice, dude probably noticed the situation was bad and asked for changes to be made but EA or other Dice heads of offices said no and he left

[junior galleon]

the people saying its like karkand are giving me an aneurysm

[spare pasture]

Bro we are getting an urban map

[mental delta]

I told myself the same lol, map doesn't look unique nor original, I like the fact they finally added a more destructible map (just took them 7 fucking seasons) but it doesn't look as original as Spearhead or Redacted imo*

[lilac dust]

Yes but at what cost?

[spare pasture]

I don’t know more wait

[mental delta]

Took them fuckers 7 seasons and 2 years

https://tenor.com/view/guy-stare-bald-stare-crazy-stare-when-the-mfw-gif-193505551621232148

[lilac dust]

I honestly don't care about any new destruction in these maps. Focus on unique and interesting locations. Save destruction for the next game. It's not like Haven's destruction will be anything more than the village section of hourglass anyway

[junior galleon]

2 years to paste portal assets into an aow map

[spare pasture]

This game now has 2 bf4 dlcs worth of post launch content

[lilac dust]

3 more years to go

[mental delta]

They had to make it "fit" with BF2042 world bro

[spare pasture]

If the maps good then I don’t care tbh

[wide shore]

Haven is the best looking thing in the new trailer

Which, one would hope. But it actually looks like a good, classic BF map

Rare

[junior galleon]

because its arica harbor

[wide shore]

It just uses Arica's assets. Personally I think it looks more like Oasis

[spare pasture]

I don’t see any water

[ashen siren]

18yrs into the future, and I'm pretty sure buildings, environments etc won't look dramatically different and super-futuristic...they've overthought maps and underdelivered with design

[lilac dust]

Good classic battlefield map? Hmmmm Sounds like Arica Harbor

[spare pasture]

WHAY THE HELL IS THAT

[wide shore]

??

[spare pasture]

Oasis

[wide shore]

A BC1/BC2 map

Same as arica...

[spare pasture]

Oh it does

Atacama urbanized version

[lilac dust]

Whoops

wrong person

[spare pasture]

Yeah but buildings have color now

[junior galleon]

well thats what i mean, it looks classic because it IS all the assets from a classic map reorganized

[lilac dust]

It uses all the building assets, all the stair assets, the cover assets, and the entire BIOME asset of Arica Harbor. It can't possibly get any more arica harbor than that lol

[wide shore]

Good

USe the assets you have, instead of going all out on making unique structures with no destruction

[spare pasture]

I don’t even feel mad I just feel good because content Tuesday

[lilac dust]

If they made the biome literally anything other than what it already was I'd be stoked for the map

[spare pasture]

Arica wasn’t really a sand desert

[lilac dust]

like just paint the sand white for fucks sake. I don't care how lazy you do it... Just make it DIFFERENT

[wide shore]

Gives hella oasis vibes to me. All it's missing is a flooded section

[spare dust]

[spare pasture]

[lilac dust]

Whatever that map is, it looks exceedingly better than what were getting

[ashen siren]

Trying to create hype for a new season, which is waaaaaay overdue and likely to underwhelm, is a freakin' joke. They've not read the room at all, and the majority of players (their customers) are dissatisfied. Just put the content out without any fuss and stop highlighting incompetence.

[spare pasture]

[lilac dust]

It's all concrete roads and paths from the looks of it. That's all I wanted pretty much. That or a snow map

[wide shore]

IT looks exceedingly similar. Even down to re-using arica assets

[velvet sand]

They did make sure to drop a few shipping containers into it so you know it's a 2042 map though, yeah?

[wide shore]

Let's hope not

[wheat nest]

Today i found about mackay bunny hop. 😩

[wide shore]

Jokes on me actually, I see some

[ashen siren]

Shipping containers are a lazy "filler" for maps imo

[velvet sand]

That's the joke, becuase it's not a 2042 map unless there's nonsensical, illogical shipping containers as cover.

[wheat nest]

The shipping container doors have weird imvisible walls that block bullets too

[still vault]

Not many other things provide so much cover for so little of the graphics budget.

[ashen siren]

Manifest would have to be the ultimate "copy paste" map in history! 😛

[junior galleon]

still pretty funny either way

[lilac dust]

The world's largest hot dog would do the trick for variety sakes

It would also be very easily destructible. We could even destroy it with our mouths

[still vault]

A hotdog would need a lot of detail, would be cool but not friendly to a graphics budget

[near silo]

Yall bitching about delayed seasons. Have you seen how many people actually play the game. Numbers are low. The fact they even give a shit blows my mind.

[lilac dust]

Season 6's launch saw record breaking playercounts, but sure go off.

[mental delta]

Wood, stone or buildings since we want urban maps

[near silo]

Yeah for 4 days

I’m just glad it’s still running.

[ashen siren]

Here in Australia, the servers are practically empty...during peak times, you can play conquest 64 and conquest redacted, and that's about it...even then you wait in the lobby a lot just for enough players to start a game, and there's always heaps of AI bots.

[spare quest]

Gonna start S7 with an XP boost

[ashen siren]

All other modes are completely dead, and they may as well just remove them from the game

[near silo]

I hate AI

[patent pivot]

Why not leave them alone for custom matches only

[lilac dust]

The thing is though, majority of players are on consoles. Always have been. There's no numbers for consoles, but what I can tell you is that to this day since the game launched I have always been able to get into full lobbies with crossplay turned off.

[patent path]

oh nice

[wheat nest]

I never see AI

[patent pivot]

No need to start

[ashen siren]

Without crossplay, this game would be completely dead and unplayable rn...that's the only way to get enough players to start a match

[strange sentinel]

Especially on PC

[still vault]

Containers looking the same is acceptable. They are just dumb squares. That's what they do - it's great for a graphics budget. But if you make all the buildings look the same it can look and play weird. But buildings you can't enter are probable alternatives, sure.

[lilac dust]

On PC yes, on consoles it just depends on your region and time of day. I am in the UK and from the launch of this game to this very day I have been able to get into full lobbies with crossplay turned off on PS5 every single day since launch.

[wide shore]

The latter worked for many years tbf

Even dense maps like Seine and Amiens are mostly copy/paste assets

[still vault]

Nah, but I could see it going back to fewer available game modes to improve matchmaking.

[lilac dust]

It's a bloody miracale that I still don't need to turn crossplay on to this day because DICE don't seem to want to work on the crossplay fairness anymore. They claimed that console players would match more console players but I tried it one day in season 6 and that was not the case so never turning crossplay back on until they make any changes to that, but I doubt I'll need to anyway. If I've been able to go 6 seasons without having crossplay on I think I'll manage season 7 too lol

[wide shore]

Playercount will rise again when the season launches like it always does. I don't even play the game RN cause Season 6 has been so damn long I'm fatigued. I'm sure many share that sentiment

[pine roost]

it's got a free week too

[ebon pilot]

i've just been grinding T1s

[quiet shell]

I wonder if we'll get a dev update this thursday

[wide shore]

True. Forgot about that

[remote kiln]

the free weekend is after the season starts

[lilac dust]

I don't think the playercount will reach the heights of season 6 unfortunately. Too much bad word of mouth on stadium and what not

[remote kiln]

half the players havent played the stadium before lol theyll be fine

[lilac dust]

Ok fair

[remote kiln]

nobody cares about what people who've been playing since the beta say

[wide shore]

Don't put much stock in the twitter audience. They're a very loud minority.

[sage tapir]

Just saw the trailer, the Chile map looks sick idk about the Doha map

[lilac dust]

But the amount of people who say shit like "I'd rather be paid money before I try 2042" ... Like I can't tell if these people are serious or not lol

[remote kiln]

nobody cares about them

tldr

[lilac dust]

I think I spend an unhealthy amount of time on twitter tbh

[spare pasture]

A: Gas/Petrol Station
B: Crash Site
C: Town Centre
D: Oasis
E: Checkpoint

The map obj

[ebon pilot]

all time spent on twitter is unhealthy time on twitter

[lilac dust]

Internet*

[ashen siren]

They tried to cram too many different things into 2042, half-arsed everything, and it's a shambles. The next one, they need to focus on the core gameplay and do it right, otherwise a lot of OG battlefield players are going to walk away...it's their last chance for me tbh.

[spare pasture]

They won’t

[remote kiln]

yeah yeah usual this that we've been hearing for years

sorry but 99% of the playerbase are not here or on reddit lol so its meaningless

[lilac dust]

Every battlefield is make or break for the game. Just like every destiny expansion

[ashen siren]

Sadly, I'm a realist and know this won't happen

[arctic grove]

So is season 7 looking neat or…?

[junior galleon]

eh

[arctic grove]

I’m new to the game

[wide shore]

Especially these days, good lord

[remote kiln]

nobody knows

[ebon pilot]

my thoughts: yay more stuff

[remote kiln]

need to wait till we play the season

[velvet sand]

don't ask salty veterans about their opinion, just form your own (us salty veterans will always say no)

[arctic grove]

More things that go bang lols

[arctic grove]

Oh I like new stuff I just wondered what others think

[wide shore]

Haven looks stellar. Stadium is kinda disappointing but whatever. New guns look great. Can't wait to use the SRAW. Battlepass looks good. Overall, it looks alright

But also, locking a new LMG and stealth bomber to mid season can suck eggs.

I fucking hate dripfeed shit

[velvet sand]

I'm curious how the SRAW will perform and if it will really make Lis irrelevant since most non-rocket engi gadgets otherwise kinda sucks.

[lilac dust]

I'm more excited for stadium than the new map lol

[velvet sand]

at least for engis, c5 is hilariously much stronger on assault with their ability to actually get close to vehicles

[slim hound]

I'm so excited for the new recoil-o-matic animation changes. And for Haven too. I wonder what's so Haven about Haven. Is it because there's a freshwater oasis nearby? Is there some super secret mysterious and mystical technology hidden underground?

[cosmic dragon]

i like the look of the map tbf

[slim hound]

There's always a super secret mysterious and mystical technology hidden underground.

[wide shore]

I think Lis will still have a place. Cause controlling the rocket like a TV missle will always be better for non line of sight kills.

[spare quest]

Stadium won't be playable until mid-season so enjoy it

[patent pivot]

The only budget UCAV

[lilac dust]

I just had a brain fart and forgot this very fact......... FML

[ebon pilot]

also it's just way easier to steer a missile when you're looking from the missile pov

[wide shore]

Thank god amirite? UCAV is fucking stupid

[patent pivot]

Maybe if infantry was resistance to that

Maybe it wouldn't be so toxic

Only effective againdt vehicles, not soldiers

[wide shore]

Exactly (Nice shooting btw)

[ebon pilot]

also

why does this keep happening to me

[lilac dust]

I'll be on apex until the stadium releases. Ya'll have fun on Arica

[wide shore]

I will

I love destruction

[patent pivot]

I'll camp back

And observe the battlefield

[lilac dust]

LOL

[patent pivot]

[cosmic dragon]

i hope everything goes boom

[lilac dust]

I love the frame it stops at. Gives you an opportunity to add the "Yep that's me you're probably wondering....."

[mental delta]

Yeah I get that but playing a game where there's an asset you find on all maps and it's containers isn't fun lol

[ebon pilot]

@robust vapor

[stone cradle]

Perfectly cut

[velvet sand]

At least we know that commercial shipping logistics are still operational in the 2042 universe, and if anything have greatly expanded! That's the kind of deep lore drops that I'm here for.

[wide shore]

From the looks of it, it will. All of it. It's beautiful

[stone cradle]

Post it on the reddit, they'll like it lol

[lilac dust]

this comment aged really well btw

[merry vigil]

kardeş oyunun içinden geçmesinlerde

[cosmic dragon]

dank

[merry vigil]

her sezon bir bozukluk bakalim şimdi ne olucak

[lilac dust]

Also this was me in the future. You're welcome everybody

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/tag-turkish-car-happy-dance-gif-17367602

[still vault]

Oh yeah yeah, I mostly see containers as something to pick when you've added so much cool stuff that you've almost reached the graphics budget and you still need to place a few chunky objects to improve gameplay.

[lilac dust]

DICE make a new engine. Focus on maximum over 9000 asset budget count so we can say goodbye to containers in the next game pls

[wide shore]

Just need to ditch last gen

[lilac dust]

That too

[ebon pilot]

should i edit all of them together

[lilac dust]

I'd be amazed if they try and put the next battlefield on PS4 and XB1

[wide shore]

They won't

That ship has sailed

[velvet sand]

Not happening. Frostbite development is now its own separate thing as EA continue to want it to be their internal "everything" engine. Unless DICE chooses to license another engine, which they absolutely will not do ever (even if thankfully Respawn and BW are doing that)

[stone cradle]

Maybe cut them perfectly like the first one

But yeah you could make a short compilation with those clips

[copper hull]

New map hype 🔥

[wheat nest]

What is the tropical forest coast map?

[copper hull]

[junior galleon]

valparaiso?

[wheat nest]

Maybe

[plush echo]

How does this happen to you twice

[ebon pilot]

You mean three times

I have no idea

[patent path]

I laughed so hard I snorted up the milk I was drinking

[mental delta]

Yeah I get that, it's like a filling tool for maps, you eventually get to a point where you need some asset to constitute cover and containers are the adequate choice for that

But it all leads us to the important question some Dice official asked on Twitter long ago

Maybe it was Ridgeline official though, like Marvus Lehto

Who asked the player

[tawny carbon]

I might edit your death montage

Idk 🤷‍♂️

[mental delta]

If they prefered : a smaller choice of maps but with more unique locations and assets or a bigger choice of maps but on only 3 or 4 same locations

If you ask me I choose 2nd option no matter what

[tawny carbon]

Make a map in North Korea

EZ and will make the game sell well

[mental delta]

I'd give my left n** for that

[tawny carbon]

Why not both

[orchid tusk]

anybody else get directx crashes since season 6? I hope those get fixed with 7. That would be nice. game freezes with a dx error. thats some bs.

[tawny carbon]

BR map based on North Korea

[wide shore]

Perfect

[slow tulip]

Add Sweden

[ebon pilot]

that's Spearhead

[azure meteor]

Finishing cutscene is just you being executed for destroying government property

[ebon pilot]

jesus

[robust vapor]

[rotund kite]

once you join the the lobby you can't leave or close the game

[stone cradle]

Nice

I'd post that

[robust vapor]

Lmao I was right "new" smg

[ebon pilot]

it is too late i've already done it
https://old.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/1bd9173/why_does_this_keep_happening_to_me/

I'm still curious what the deploy screen enhancements are

did they talk about that?

[pine roost]

could just be for console

I've heard that it's still apparently quite annoying there

[tawny carbon]

SAO moment

[vital quail]

Yeah like 25% of the time I choose to spawn on someone in my squad it moves it to the spawn area for 0 reason

[tawny carbon]

Yes. With War Crimes

[lilac dust]

I can't wait to finally fight more than 4 people in the stadium

[ebon pilot]

sometimes when a spawn point you want to use becomes unusable it puts your selection on the last thing you selected

[tawny carbon]

@lilac dust explain how the teaser was misleading?

I’m curious 🧐

[ebon pilot]

He doesn't get that the water and the sand in the water was supposed to represent the oasis that's on the new map because it's water in the middle of the fuckin desert

[copper hull]

I like that scz and xfad and also the new map 🗺️

[robust vapor]

@quaint vector pog CZ Scorpy coming back

[lilac dust]

They showed bullet casings going through water with a tiny bit of sand floating through the water. From the looks of the gameplay trailer there is absolutely no water gameplay besides a kiddy pool on the edge of the new map that nobody will fight on, but even if people do.... why would you tease a tiny shallow bit of a water to walk on lmaooo

[novel zephyr]

That and the trailer said 'game engine footage' as in it's not actual gameplay buy a rendered animation of what 'gameplay's supposed to be'.

[lilac dust]

They can do that shit in the lore cards and the comsetic descriptions. The teaser trailer was meant to be a TEASE for the gameplay trailer. Not a lore tease.

[novel zephyr]

In other words, it's still a game of jackshit with no real gameplay elements.

[lilac dust]

What a hilarious thing to defend lmao

[ebon pilot]

trailer teasers have never been that

[tawny carbon]

It’s all about the Lore. The background is just for show or the background is to represent the battle from the map. The water was never meant to be a water map leak.

[novel zephyr]

What lore? This isn't FNaF! The only 'lore' here is the windfall of biblical proportions that is DICE and EA's legacy and overall now dead reputation.

[lilac dust]

Name me a teaser trailer that didn't do that prior to season 7

[tawny carbon]

2042 have lore like any other game.

2042 story is all based around lore.

[ebon pilot]

6

[quaint vector]

[novel zephyr]

Where exactly, the campaign?

oh wait

there is none!

[ebon pilot]

"game engine footage" is a clever way to say "we built this in Frostbite Filmmaker" just like all the TF2 animations Valve did in Source Filmmaker

[tawny carbon]

I never said campaign

2042’s story is the lore

[stone cradle]

I wonder if they'll do a lore event like the spearhead missile thing

That would be cool

[robust vapor]

Get the BP get the weapon and try out the smg

[novel zephyr]

Exactly!

[robust vapor]

Gonna T1 it real quick like the VHS

[tawny carbon]

Get P+ like me

[novel zephyr]

Just another failed attempt to bullshit people that have brains.

[lilac dust]

https://gyazo.com/8cc5aff491a1b6891de6529480ad980a Wrong.

[robust vapor]

n0

[tawny carbon]

Skins tho

Exclusive P+ skin tho

[robust vapor]

I mean I got the money to afford battlepass

[ebon pilot]

that is, in fact, not the video teaser

[robust vapor]

But I would normally look through all of them first

[ebon pilot]

so it is not the same thing

[quaint vector]

Speedrun

[robust vapor]

Before deciding

[tawny carbon]

Buy it DOk. Buy the DOk P+ pass

[ebon pilot]

more like pay-$20-run

[novel zephyr]

I swear dok and sanitator are just bots that're here to artificially hype up 2042 at this point.

[robust vapor]

[tawny carbon]

It’s cheap

[robust vapor]

I'm not a bot

[lilac dust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWNuEcHbNh8 Everything in this teaser is valid

[solid imp]

I'm hyped for season 7 🙂

[tawny carbon]

Same

[robust vapor]

Stadium fight lets gooo

[solid imp]

those stealth will be... annoying lol.. but still will be fun at times

[robust vapor]

It's locker all over again

[remote kiln]

people are allowed to like things fyi

[robust vapor]

Bomber plane pog

I always wanna bomb people

[tawny carbon]

That’s a teaser of the season and a snip of the map.

[lilac dust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWNuEcHbNh8 The teaser showed gameplay. What's your point?

[novel zephyr]

yeah sure, but the way they talk, it's like an AI generated NPC dialogue.

[remote kiln]

no? lol

[tawny carbon]

Which the lore takes place

[vital mauve]

1 new map

[robust vapor]

You're the AI, pizza

[novel zephyr]

The game's still a barely played ghostlight of a long dead franchise.

[robust vapor]

Sorry not sorry for farming you

[remote kiln]

uh huh

[round garden]

hello chat

[solid imp]

[round garden]

i have not come to talk smack about bf2042

[ebon pilot]

it clearly didn't, it showed a hallway and then some key season art

[round garden]

actually i wanna try it out with the new season

[novel zephyr]

A few thousand people, maybe a few tens of thousands but that all pales in comparison to HellDivers 2, people actively play that game at least.

[low sparrow]

When is the new season release date?

[lilac dust]

Yes. He is trying to say the season 7 teaser is valid because of lore implications, but season 6's teaser trailer had no problem showing enough so as to not mislead us with gameplay.

[remote kiln]

cool story you got there

[remote kiln]

19th

[copper fulcrum]

19th

[junior galleon]

i do kind of miss when all the battlefield trailers were actual gameplay with added bass boosting and some music and snappy editing

[tawny carbon]

I’m just saying, teasers and seasons of BF2042 is all about the lore. Lore is the story of BF2042

[round garden]

why 50 cent working at dice?

[novel zephyr]

Or rather actual gameplay in general.

[round garden]

lore is lore story is story, its no excuse to not put a acctual story campaign into the game

[tawny carbon]

Teasers leading up to Seasons. Is really the lore leading up to something new and big event.

[vital mauve]

id rather have more content than lore lmao

[novel zephyr]

BF1 had actual gameplay in its trailer, you could recreate what's seen there almost entirely in-game outside of that guy looking up at the Zeppelin.

[novel zephyr]

There's more options in BF1 in truth.

[tawny carbon]

Every story have Lore. Lore can also make a story.

[novel zephyr]

what lore? Seriously, what lore even is there in 2042?

[junior galleon]

i was mostly referring to battlefield 3 trailers but thats true too

[tawny carbon]

You have not paying attention?

[vital mauve]

notepads and wizard of oz or sum shit idk or care

[lilac dust]

you can walk through that hallway. You can go up close and see the skull image in various places. There's not even a guarantee that we can walk in the pond of the new map let alone it be deep enough to see any bullet casings go through it

[novel zephyr]

Not to mention all of BF1's DLC as well.

[round garden]

yeah but you make it seem like lore can be a substitute for story

[ebon pilot]

are you even real

[novel zephyr]

I never thought I'd see something rip off the movie 'geostorm' yet here we are.

[solid imp]

I remember people were impressed by cinematics and such in games going back to command & conquer... "hey that's cool, it looks real"
now it's apparently the worst choice for a cinematics team to put something out that looks cool

[junior galleon]

the dlc lineup was alright

[novel zephyr]

Well, not when it's clearly specified as a trailer and not intended to be deceptive

[vital mauve]

are guns about to handle weird af with the recoil changes? more like cod guns?

[tawny carbon]

It’s both ways. If they made a campaign for the game. Lore is the story that continues on.

[ebon pilot]

it's like using CGI or visual effects. it was so cool back then and now you want to convince everyone you're using props and practical effects

[novel zephyr]

Because the trailer for 2042's 'content' of turning point was animated to look like gameplay instead of showing actual gameplay, further leading all of us to belive that the actual game is just a watered down mess rather than a fully finished experience. If that were the case, then why not show actual gameplay and not a 'game engine footage' video that's animated to look like gameplay.

[lilac dust]

You're defending a teaser trailer saying it's all lore implications. I have never heard such a bot defense. The hypocrisy is real with this one.

[tawny carbon]

CnC was amazing as its time. Cinematics and its story. I still think it’s a masterpiece to this day

[ebon pilot]

i never said it had lore implications.

[novel zephyr]

Not to mention that a cutscene isn't the same as a really decpetive trailer. Same thing was done with BFV's debute and everyone hated it for making no sense.

[vital mauve]

how boring does ur life have to be to study 2042 lore

[novel zephyr]

Hope this helps clear up our overall upsetment on 2042 and just battlefield as a whole.

[novel zephyr]

I'd say devoid of any joy really.

[tawny carbon]

You don’t have to study it. Really, it just simply requires a lil bit of paying attention

[novel zephyr]

Hell, Deep Rock Galactic is performing better than 2042!

[novel zephyr]

to what?

[lilac dust]

This is lore..............

[novel zephyr]

The glitchy servers, the uneeded remaking of conquest's core mechanics?

[lilac dust]

Can I go up to any of the water towers and smash the water out of them. No? then it's lore implications

[ebon pilot]

no it's fuckin not that's literally what the location is. it's an oasis

[tawny carbon]

The lore and what’s happening from seasons to seasons. If you want to go deeper. Codex and ect.

[novel zephyr]

Can I get bad company 2 servers back? No? It's ~ lore ~

[tawny carbon]

Huh?

[junior galleon]

the oasis is not a major part of the map tho as far as i can tell

[lilac dust]

Ok we're done here. We're going into let's treat the kid like a dumb baby vibes

[junior galleon]

you can actually lol

[novel zephyr]

the BF1 codex was the only one worth reading because it talks about the real life history of WW1

[novel zephyr]

On Xbox 360?

[junior galleon]

oh no nvm

[ebon pilot]

do yall not know what an oasis is?

[junior galleon]

on pc

[tawny carbon]

Same with 2042, what’s the difference?

[novel zephyr]

don't give a man hope like that

[novel zephyr]

2042 gives you lessons on actual ww1 history?

[junior galleon]

well if you had it on pc you can

[vital mauve]

bruh

[junior galleon]

i just played it

[novel zephyr]

He can't be serious

[round garden]

bro the finals has better lore than bf

btw you guys saw the new season 2 trailer looks amazing

[novel zephyr]

I think that's enough internet for now, if any of y'all play BF1 on PSN feel free to hit me up, I've a mic and PTFO. Peace out fellas/laddies

*ladies

[ebon pilot]

no i stopped caring about the finals

[solid imp]

all it takes is to stop caring about coins and the finals becomes irrelevant

[tawny carbon]

It tells you how it progresses as time goes on. WW1 is easier to learn about history because it’s the past. 2042 is set years later than BF4. It’s hard to make a story by using lore and run with it.

Especially when going into the future.

[round garden]

its a game

[robust vapor]

Scorpy Scorpy Scorp

[spare quest]

so true

[normal iris]

2042 has to also deal with modern political and cultural sensitivities

Bf1 core message is an old adage that nobody disagrees on

[orchid tusk]

modern cultural and political sensitivities? which ones if you dont mind me asking

[chilly jacinth]

ur mum

[orchid tusk]

loves these nuts

[spare quest]

gottem

[tawny carbon]

[chilly jacinth]

thats incest

ew

[tawny carbon]

[novel zephyr]

Tell that to JRR Tolkin, George RR Martin, George Lucas and, hmmmm let's see... ah yes, the guys who wrote for bad company 1 and 2 along with the orignal Modern Warfare games too.

And how about Bioshock?

[novel zephyr]

mostly the fans that hate it

[royal swan]

I do like looks of the upcoming lmg

to bad they seem to forget vault weapons

[tawny carbon]

Different writers, different thoughts.

[spare quest]

they said we won't get any vault weapons in s7

months ago

[novel zephyr]

At this point who even cares anymore?

[tawny carbon]

Portal died off for content

[zinc phoenix]

Soooo new meta coming that’s not the VHX?

[normal iris]

Negative portrayals of certain countries or events, fictional diplomacy and politics being analogies of those in real life, etc

Write a story someone doesn't like and they might just ban the game in their country

[royal swan]

always

new season new metas

[tawny carbon]

Vhx is mid, I find it boring 🥱 to use

[normal iris]

It's kind of like how china isn't mentioned in 2042 at all yet

[orchid tusk]

hasnt portal always been a euro thing. i dont think ive ever seen a na server full in 2+ years, though i rarely check

[zinc phoenix]

Can’t wait to get clapped at 550 meters by a lmg

[normal iris]

Because they can't risk that portion of the market

[royal swan]

also I did see some of that visual recoil in the trailer, honestly doesn't look problomatic

[tawny carbon]

The whole world changed and a lot of shit happened over the years from BF4

[normal iris]

Yeah and bf4 was published in a much more insensitive time

Where people knew games were games

[tawny carbon]

2042 is mainly focused on No Pats

[royal swan]

it was weird that china was not apart of 2042

[normal iris]

Which is again really convenient story wise, because u can't associate them with any current country

[tawny carbon]

Yes

[normal iris]

When u have something like bf1 u really cannot offend anyone

Even if u make it pro war itll be seen as satire

Things happened too long ago in the past

[void gorge]

Good evening.. a complex game like this.. can anyone answer me why it is not possible to change the position of the kill feed (that chat that shows who killed who and with what weapon) but can we change all the details of the aim?

[copper fulcrum]

There ain't really too many games that allow you to change the position of hud elements really

[orchid tusk]

yeah ea does seem to shy away from that i guess. i guess they think if they can they will

[copper fulcrum]

Only ones I can think about are, modded lol

[orchid tusk]

theres a new pondhawk mode coming?

[spare quest]

another one?

[orchid tusk]

maybe just a rehash? i swear I saw something

[void gorge]

ok but... I asked this because until a while ago, this chat was above the mini map and now it's in the top right corner and it's not possible to change the position... something that shouldn't happen because from the moment you pay for your money to play, you are not obligated to play as the devs want

[orchid tusk]

my gpu hung itself again because of this game...2nd time today so far...

yeah bro it would be nice if you could customize the hud more. ive often wanted to be able to scroll the kill log.....often

[teal sequoia]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/s/d7RR1AnkNx

Gimme your opinions boys. It looks like made by 6yo cause I made it on my phone lol

[orchid tusk]

nah man that would be sweet

some metroid shiznit....f'n a

[normal iris]

https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/27/battlefield-4-banned-in-china-over-controversial-dlc

[amber kelp]

2042's core message is about climate change its not exactly sensitive. They just fucked up the themes hard with their tone

[normal iris]

I mean basically

[fierce matrix]

Sooo removed the stadium from hourglass to make it its own map?

[pine roost]

yeah!

[round garden]

not possible to change mouse sens for menus?????????????

[normal iris]

But with this focus on climate change "we fight for resources and politics is involved with this" and add mercenaries to avoid political or diplomacy unless it is necessary for the plot, it is easy to see that ea wants to avoid lashback from sensistivities

[tawny carbon]

To much assets and stuff to load in within the map for last gen. That’s why it’s better own its own.

Community also wants more infantry focused maps. Like redacted.

[amber kelp]

they want a setting that allows them to make marketable characters like overwatch.
That is the only purpose of No Pats, its to sell skins

[normal iris]

I mean sort of

But its mostly to distance themselves from current day politics I think

Which I get

[amber kelp]

Not sort of, this is just it. They do nothing else with the no pat concept except make up organizations to sell skins about

[void gorge]

finally someone who agrees with me but the question is.. to change something.. we would have to go "heavily" and complain to dice so they can do the basics, right.. which is to put the option of being able to change the position and so on.

[copper fulcrum]

you are not obligated to play as the devs want
It's a hud.

[tawny carbon]

The Non-Patriated, shortened to "No-Pats", is the term used for a loose conglomeration of refugees and exiles

The No-Pats are everything people say they are - smugglers, sinners, saints, and so much more. The world created the Non-Patriated, and then blamed them for its problems. But now this Task Force might be the very key to saving it. The Exodus survives one storm heading straight for another.

[amber kelp]

really wish I could remove the crosshair dot

[tawny carbon]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/the-world-of-battlefield-2042/journey-of-the-no-pats?setLocale=en-us&4D2966CD97B65225DC6FF0AD1BED234F=-202_5_-440_-202_1505_-440_5A0DB0597FC9055EFA44A738637C2197_DBE70B485B8C5436EB16F7DF39940056#4D2966CD97B65225DC6FF0AD1BED234F

[void gorge]

So tell me... how do I change the position of the chat that shows who killed and who killed?

[copper fulcrum]

You can change the size but not the position

[amber kelp]

never bothered with it much but isnt hud customization pretty extensive in older BFs

[stone cradle]

Have to keep it investor friendly

[gilded goblet]

hhmmm

[copper fulcrum]

It never really allowed you to change the positions, just scales, colors, etc.

[stone cradle]

If they still had balls like back in BF4 they'd pull another china rising

[amber kelp]

ah

[copper fulcrum]

2042 has some pretty extensive customization for each part of the hud. Allowing you to change the scale, opacity, color, etc.

[void gorge]

so you can't say that I'm not obligated to play as the dev's want if even though I bought the game with my money, I can't do the minimum

[copper fulcrum]

Why are you talking like this when it's just the HUD and has no real impact on the gameplay?

[amber kelp]

they had already gotten kicked out of china by that point

[orchid tusk]

its a heads up display. it means every damn thing to him apparently bacause he paid for it. is that right Tad?

[amber kelp]

TBH battlefield could probably do China. They did not get banned for showing the PLA, they got banned for making a game entirely about invading china, where China has a coup and decides to start ww3 for no reason

Squad added the PLA a while back and the CCP doesnt care

[tawny carbon]

If you really want something, be a dev… EZ. Other than that. Most customizable QoL features isn’t a thing in most games like hud positions. Especially in a FPS game.

[orchid tusk]

the more options the better in my book

but im not ready to go to battle or anything lol

[copper fulcrum]

The fact that we can change the scale and color of all the different hud elements is good enough really

[tawny carbon]

Not necessarily

[copper fulcrum]

iirc all the widgets can be sized differently.

[tawny carbon]

Facts

[void gorge]

Previously in the messages I think I explained the reason or if I didn't, I can explain anything and in fact, if you look at the message history, you will see that another member also agrees with me

[tawny carbon]

That’s really all we need tbh. Everything else is a bonus. Not needed.

[placid echo]

I'm probably not the only one that does this

[royal swan]

man the drip fed content will be such a pain. Also I expect a coprate ai generated appology from dice

[void gorge]

I honestly didn't understand your question so if you could explain better

[tawny carbon]

Most of mine is low also. Cuz I like small text

[amber kelp]

this is why playing older games is such a peaceful life. Dont need to worry about drip feed if there is no feed. Bored of the game? Buy another old game it will probably be like $20 max

[void gorge]

although this is true, but you don't agree with me that games should allow it because big games like 2042 are generally expensive and launched in a "decadent" way.

[placid echo]

Additionally

[royal swan]

I just get indie games instead that actually depend on the community instead of cash numbers

[orchid tusk]

not really. just keep up the good fight and we will have fully customizable death logs! i second your motion.

[amber kelp]

that also works

[tawny carbon]

I have mine at 80

[placid echo]

Mine has to be SPECIFICALLY 74

[tawny carbon]

🤔

[amber kelp]

hold on can I remove the crosshair dot with this?

[solid imp]

[placid echo]

Hmm

[amber kelp]

asking cause im away from my pc

[solid imp]

75 just clogs up too much screen 😄

[placid echo]

Not that I can see, however I never noticed the outline opacity or the impact point settings until now

[orchid tusk]

its so decadent lol. i think maybe thats not the word you are looking for. i hope so anyway. what is so decadent about 2042?

[amber kelp]

dammit

[tawny carbon]

The average game have basic scale and color change. It also requires a lot of coding to implement more features. Most games don’t because they like everyone on the same set of settings and not to harm players view/crosshair.

It would be nice for more hud customization. It just isn’t really a thing in FPS games to have those as the baseline.

[void gorge]

well.. to avoid harming anyone, just make it optional because, for example, I really miss this "chat" that we are discussing, in the position I was in before.. even because it's not because some like it in a way that others will like

[orchid tusk]

quake 3 is the baseline for me so most all fall short. every single one since the original bf1942

[tawny carbon]

They do avoid harming players because they already static the position of the said hud elements.

In certain areas on your screen.

[amber kelp]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory

[orchid tusk]

1984ish

i know x.com comments are filled with bots and boosted ads and content that is completely irrelevant to the op. sometimes for first, well....i'd say dozens of responses

[amber kelp]

you actually call it x?

[tawny carbon]

I call it X and I call it Twitter also.

[orchid tusk]

yeah same here

but i think x is better here

but it doesn't matter

[tawny carbon]

I use both either way. But also depends on how I word certain sentences also.

[orchid tusk]

well i briefly thought to change it to twitter when i was typing it but then thought x was better here because I was speaking of a change to the platform

[tawny carbon]

looks like an lmg more than a smg @robust vapor

[quaint vector]

Can't wait for this one..

[tidal trail]

There's 3 weapons

[tawny carbon]

BF4 PTSD

[tawny carbon]

yes i know that

[tidal trail]

u just called an lmg an smg

[tawny carbon]

"looks like an lmg more than a smg"

people say its an SMG

[quaint vector]

[limber orbit]

scorpion yaaay

[tidal trail]

Looks like an ar15 with a box magazine

[tawny carbon]

look at the iron sight and the body

[tidal trail]

Honestly, they could have brought the AUG and use that as a portal weapon for BC2 and BF3

[tawny carbon]

also the Cover assembly and Feed tray isnt like that on any ar or smg, that im aware of

[arctic grove]

People shat on old twitter because “something something softies”, but it is rock bottom at this point

The only good thing that came out of it is community notes lol

[tidal trail]

Twitter was pretty good when there was fact checking going on in a time of misinformation

[gilded goblet]

i'ma shred with this

[rotund kite]

The cinematic trailer team never disappoints ngl
and could we see a B2 fighter jet in S7 wtf

[pine roost]

yeah it's a stealth bomber

cluster bombs and emp

[rotund kite]

I'd be so exited if I could fly anything in this game

[tawny carbon]

AK5C was a beast in BF4

[rotund kite]

agreed, for this one I'm very hyped

[amber kelp]

the stats will likely be mostly different

[coarse elbow]

When is season starting?

[rotund kite]

the question is if the ak5c will come as a vault weapon or a modernized version of it like the g36

[copper fulcrum]

March 19th

[amber kelp]

new most likely

[dusty sparrow]

Is it worth grinding tier 1 skins if you already have BP skins on vehicles?

[rotund kite]

that'd be cool
so I can apply the T1 skin to it

haha

[tidal trail]

It's not a vault weapon. It wasn't in BF3

[mental delta]

Modern version, you can see on the pic it has the 2042 attachments rail

[arctic grove]

They didn’t name it differently so probably was a portal but now a main gun

[tawny carbon]

new because portal BFs dont have AK5C. it was featured in BF4

[ivory canopy]

I'm done with redacted conquest

I think I've won ONE match in the last 10

[tidal trail]

Do better

[ivory canopy]

My team is always a collective botch

[tawny carbon]

skill issue

[ivory canopy]

I alone cannot save an entire team destined for the dumpster

Sue me

[tawny carbon]

major skill issues

[ivory canopy]

Come in and play alongside me and show me you can win

[mental delta]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[arctic grove]

Not with that attitude you can do it I believe in you

[tawny carbon]

Positive vibes and not worrying about winning, get you Ws.

[ivory canopy]

Ok.

[tawny carbon]

Focusing on winning gets you more Ls.

[ivory canopy]

Take someone who led the team in points and kills and the whole team fails to hold a single obj

[tawny carbon]

Teamwork makes the dreamwork

[ivory canopy]

I wish I had a team that round

[tawny carbon]

RNG is a thing, you know

[ivory canopy]

Well I must be on the blacklist then

[tawny carbon]

Nobody is saying that.

Just have fun playing the game. Wins and amazing things will come your way.

Be a comp player in battlefield won’t get you far.

[void gorge]

We know that the game also contains bugs that harm players, so having a modification of the hud that the player can use however they want is the least of the problems.

[tawny carbon]

Every game have bugs. It’s nothing new

[ashen siren]

I joined a game lastnight on Redacted that had just started, and our team were spawn trapped...not much fun! I ended up being the person to break-through, a few people followed, they died, and nobody from my squad spawned on me. Eventually when I was killed, we were back to square-one...why bother trying! 😦

[ivory canopy]

iirc that one win I got was where I got to participate in a curb stomping

[pine roost]

When it comes to comp games, I always say ‘play to improve, not to rank up’. It’s been a pretty good mantra. I don’t think I’ve ever looked at my win stats

[ashen siren]

I see a LOT of people try and play like CoD and jump corners while spray-firing, rather than peeking while aiming and paying attention to where fire is coming from. They're easy meat to grind

[pine roost]

I still get in the habit of jumping mid combat, but this is a game where always wide swinging won’t work out

Not with these maps and player counts

[tawny carbon]

I always jam out to music and be calm/positive. Good things happens compared to me focus and sweating my ass off to win the game.

[pine roost]

Yeah that’s something I’ve tried doing more of

Unfortunately I’m conscientious in everything I do, so me failing has me feeling pretty bad. But the highs are higher

[tawny carbon]

More I focus on winning, I lose and get tried/irritated more and more as time goes on.

[pine roost]

My arm aches after today’s session though since it’s been so long since I last played

[plush sphinx]

is season 7 live?

[tawny carbon]

It be like that after a 10hr game session

[tawny carbon]

Next week

[pine roost]

10 hours??

[tawny carbon]

Ye

With some breaks

[ashen siren]

I've just learned to accept that majority of players are garbage, don't PTFO, don't play their roles, etc. There's no point getting upset about it, as it changes nothing.

[pine roost]

Do you actually manage to play a full 10 hours in a day

I got 2 today

[tawny carbon]

If I really wanted to. I can play 48hrs before getting exhausted and tired.

[pine roost]

That’s really all I can do with the time I have

[ashen siren]

I'll squeeze in a couple of hours every few days, but life gets in the way of playing games period...kids, work, housework, etc.

[pine roost]

I’m a student who still lives at home, but even then every day is project work

[tawny carbon]

That makes sense. I’m young and I’m an introvert.

But I have a job also

[pine roost]

I’d love to be able to just play for hours but I’ve never managed to outside of the prime Overwatch days

[orchid tusk]

eventually you'll graduate to old, rich, hardcore, and dgaf

if you play your cards right, lol

[tawny carbon]

I’m in the military and have a girlfriend. She have a job as well. I still take care of the house and ect.

[pine roost]

Maybe I just need better time management

[tawny carbon]

I do

[pine roost]

So much I want to play but it just doesn’t work out

[orchid tusk]

🫡

[tawny carbon]

If I had kids and ect. Obviously games is last resort. Rn is my job, house and girlfriend.

I give her my time way more than gaming per week.

[pine roost]

Meanwhile I’m just chilling with the lads

Trouble is, they all play league

And that’s the last game I’d want to get into

[ashen siren]

I'm very time-efficient with everything I do, so that allows me to find a few hours here n there to play games. That's the annoying bit about getting older...you've finally got the kickass pc, but not enough time to really go ham with it. 😦

[tawny carbon]

My girl plays the switch and steam deck way more than me and I play on my PC.

[pine roost]

Doesn’t help that most of what I want to play fit into that ‘infinite replayability’ style

[tawny carbon]

Same but shooter games only.

If it ain’t shooter, I throw it away.

Unless it’s Mario games and smash bros… party Nintendo games as well.

[pine roost]

Basically infinite too

Maybe tomorrow I’ll throw all caution to the wind and just try to play for a few more hours than usual. Have some fun

[ashen siren]

RPG's are pointless as a parent...you sit down to play, and have zero clue of what you were doing in-game, etc. BF is great because you can just sit down and jump in without any hassles.

[tawny carbon]

I play destiny, division, cod, battlefield, finals and ect.

[hazy frost]

hey guys

whens the update happening

[pine roost]

Do you ever make notes on games you play?

Where you got to, what to do etc

[hazy frost]

Cuz im like still in season 6

[tawny carbon]

If the game is a grindy RuneScape or ESO alike game. It’s going in the dumpster/sewer instantly

I’m not wasting my life on a repetitive no life having ass game

[tawny carbon]

Next week is Season 7. The 19th

[hazy frost]

Oh it said march 12th-

[tawny carbon]

Today was the trailer

[hazy frost]

Oh no wait

im a dum dum

[tawny carbon]

It’s all good 😊

[hazy frost]

So it happens on the 19th right march 19

[tawny carbon]

Yes

[hazy frost]

perfect!

Thx u!

[tawny carbon]

No prob

[ashen siren]

Nah it's just not possible to sit down and play rpg's when you only get time to play occasionally. Remembering controls, what you were doing, what you haven't done, where to go, etc is too much of a hassle. It's simply too hard to get invested in something like RDR2 for example...you need to be a frequent gamer to properly enjoy things like that due to their complexity.

[tawny carbon]

I mean, I main 4-5 games per season and I know what I need to do for each game.

[ashen siren]

Mates n I often joke that more games need a "Parent Mode", where it gives you a quick recap on everything so far, controls, etc,

[pine roost]

I see what you mean

Especially since RPGs are all about getting you playing for as long as possible, chasing lots of small goals

[tawny carbon]

The real time consuming games

They do need a recap

[ashen siren]

Life is complicated enough with trying to run a business, manage a family, finances, who's doing what when, blah blah. I'm not going to remember what Arthur was about to do, but has to bugger off to some silly obscure place to get one item, to take to this person over here, in order to get access to do something, blah blah.

[pine roost]

I’ve got a section in my reminders for basically everything I play. Battlefield has a bunch of errors I spot myself making with ways to fix them and practise, stuff like rimworld has me jotting down all the things I’ve just done and what my goals were, so I can forget it all and relax my mind, but as soon as I boot it back up one read and I know exactly what was going on

[tawny carbon]

I just hop around multiple games enough where I don’t forget where I’m at, even if I don’t touch it for a season. Controls is second nature to me even if I forgot to play it in a month.

[pine roost]

Shooters feel like the biggest time commitment to me, with the biggest drop in performance over time. But I’ve just lacked any real motive to stick to them

Although granted that’s probably due to project work

[ashen siren]

Shooters and racing games are ideal for me, as I can just jump in and be good straightaway

[tawny carbon]

Shooters to me is very enjoyable and immersive than other genres. I just gave up to care enough to win. That’s why I slowly gotten a better at them over time.

[pine roost]

A lot of it is down to mentality

[tawny carbon]

I used to sweat my ass off in games when I was young. Now I’m completely opposite to them today. More I don’t care while playing. The better I do. It’s weird asf.

[pine roost]

And sadly I tend to get a bit too caught up with them

[ashen siren]

Correct. At the end of the day, it's just a game and you're playing for enjoyment. When it stops being fun/starts being stressful, walk away for a bit. There's more to get angry about in real life than a silly game that ultimately means nothing. 😛

[pine roost]

In my case I just put on some c418 and it all goes away

[tawny carbon]

Only racing game I’ll get back into is forza but shooters are to appealing and eye catching to me. And always something new of them comes out more frequently.

[orchid tusk]

I just spend all my time on discord.

[pine roost]

Indeed

Only difficulty is that I’ve put so much time into the ones I enjoy that at times, me messing up has me feeling frustrated. But that’s just a lapse in judgment and sense

[orchid tusk]

I'm getting all excited to jump into iracing but I ain't doin it with a wheel so it'll probably be wack

[pine roost]

Nah a keyboard will be good

[tawny carbon]

That’s why I enjoy cod, battlefield and destiny. They are all great investing games. And content always drops for them and new games in general.

[orchid tusk]

Maybe If I race with my eyes closed I'll have more fun. And not be dead last at every sf line.

[pine roost]

It’s just the dynamic nature of them that keeps them fun

[tawny carbon]

If I can’t see, means I win right?

[tawny carbon]

Facts, meta changes, revamped or something keeps the game/franchise fresh.

Now I think about it. Live service games might not be the best but it keeps us players investing. Compared to past games. You play it till you get bored of it till a dlc or major update drops. Idk what it is.

[safe bramble]

What shit state is 2042 in for them to still do free weekend 2 years in

[tawny carbon]

Free weekend grabs players. Cod does the same way but with a terrible algorithm.

[safe bramble]

Bf isn't cod and bf has never done this with any previous title

[tawny carbon]

BF1 and BFV had free weekends

It’s just a method to grab players in. Free weekends is essentially a bigger and longer trial timer.

If the player is invested well enough, they will most likely buy their game.

[ebon pilot]

just realized the trailer shot of the bomber has a truly accurate representation of 2042 gameplay: wildcat on ikea

and a player sniping from on top of an ATV

[slate jolt]

But the one above the car

[midnight lion]

Cinematic blasco

[pine roost]

Had that exact situation earlier today in fact

[royal swan]

honestly the only new thing about stadium will be the experience. Like now we can play that map when it's heavily contested instead of the 5 players who are trying to cap and dipping out

[calm bison]

Calculated

[royal swan]

Im honestly excited about the new breakthrough layout that It will receive and the conquest layout. Now we can play stadium like the trailer from launch

[wide shore]

No shot it’s 128 though

[royal swan]

Yeah nah

[wide shore]

I reckon Haven won’t be either

[royal swan]

128 is not it, it's built for 64

[wide shore]

I hope Haven is. But I’m not hoping too much

[royal swan]

Honestly I believe the based 2042 maps should be divided like stadium, some spots on the base maps are honestly goated and should be their own map

Like the hill, tunnel, and oil refinery on orbital

Hell the bottom part of orbital can be it's own map

[ivory canopy]

Alrighty

I've found a gun I hate more than the G46

[ashen siren]

Oooooh, do tell!

[ivory canopy]

M416

[ashen siren]

The M416 is freakin awesome!!! You must be on crack dude

[ivory canopy]

I am dead serious

It has been as inconsistent if not worse than the G46 for me.

But in everyone else's hands, oh it's great. Go the fuck figure.

[ashen siren]

It's literally one of the best guns to use...accurate, hits hard, fast reload, solid rate of fire, and with the right accessories, it absolutely shreds.

[ivory canopy]

Ok. What accessories do you use?

Because I must be using the exact wrong accessories if I'm this fucking miserable with it.

[slate meadow]

Wait there is a new season?

[ashen siren]

I honestly can't remember what fitout I was using...T1'd it and moved on. I miss that gun cos it was a beast

[sturdy socket]

has soflam been patched so that javelins can fire out of line of sight for laser designations yet

left the game since someone thought it was funny to fundamentally ruin it

[ivory canopy]

Well, I switched to iron sights, and guess what?

[ashen siren]

?

[ivory canopy]

It is suddenly working

Go figure

[ashen siren]

1.5 sights are my usual thing, so I would have had that fitted. Extended mag, foregrip, and can't remember what barrel. That's a fairly typical loadout for me, so use that as a guideline and tweak to your tastes. 🙂

[ivory canopy]

Maybe it's one of the guns that just works better with iron sights. The AEK is like that, the AC9 is very much like that.

[ashen siren]

Ironsights are massively underrated imo

[next onyx]

Beep boop.

Irons aren't bad but there's no reason not to run an actual RDS.

[ivory canopy]

Also I am convinced that I have committed an atrocity in the game that has cursed me to eternal failure in the Conquest game mode.

[next onyx]

Nah that's just the game in general.

[ivory canopy]

Oh well. At least I found something that makes the M416 consistent. That's good.

I know it's weird but as I've said before the iron sights seem to do the trick for some guns. I had the same grievances toward the AC9 but when I switched to irons it made the gun much more tolerable.

[karmic egret]

So I see people complaining that the stadium is being readded, the same people who complained about it being removed

[ashen siren]

The whole "made with love" thing is just a copy/paste exercise...who would have seen that coming eh? 😛

[karmic egret]

Yes but it's content is being cut in half

Or split in between mid season

[amber kelp]

I would not consider those two "maps" to be equal halves

[royal swan]

But it will be fun

Stadium finally getting proper attention

[tidal trail]

Call of Duty added a map from MW3's beta as a season map 6 months post launch

[royal swan]

And due to how empty stadium was in players activity and props during it's time in the game, the stadium map will be a newish experience.

Bold on the ish

We played the area before but never to the extent that we will play once the map is available

[tidal trail]

They've added stuff to the stadium it's not like it's just a copy and paste. New barriers and other things

[hybrid path]

the stadium in Hourglass?

[royal swan]

Yeah the one that was removed

It's back as a reworked map supporting 64 players I assume

[hybrid path]

I hope they add ALL of the removed map areas to Hourglass

[royal swan]

It will be a meat grinder

[hybrid path]

rn it’s just a pilot’s paradise

[royal swan]

Oh it's not back on hourglass

It's separate

[hybrid path]

it’s its own map? bruh

[tidal trail]

Stadium is a standalone map

[royal swan]

It will be a meat grinder map

[hybrid path]

They were so close to doing something right..

it was within their grasp

[tidal trail]

Exterior of the stadium is accessible with looks like destruction

On exterior walls

[royal swan]

Stadium when it was in hourglass was baren and empty

Like the best you could get was 10 players

But that didn't last long

It was in the fucking corner collection dust

[ebon pilot]

collecting sand

[royal swan]

Now it has it's own map where many people can play it

[hybrid path]

Old Hourglass lobbies were packed, everyone would fight for the stadium

[royal swan]

No they wouldn't

They fought at the arch

[hybrid path]

you’re tripping dude

[royal swan]

The arch was the most contested

[hybrid path]

I’ve had at LEAST 20 v 20 over that stadium, a third of each team fighting

[tidal trail]

Morbid was the sniper on top of the crane at stadium

[hybrid path]

nope, sniping is for people that can’t take gunfights

[royal swan]

Best I got was 5v5

[hybrid path]

when I push the stadium I swap to medic with a SFAR

[royal swan]

Or a 10 if they came with a transport heli

Sorry "gunship"

[ebon pilot]

often times teams would fight for either the city or stadium and ignore the central sectors B, C, and D. If one team got stuck fighting for stadium, they often just lost because that one sector doesn't win games against three separate sectors

[tidal trail]

Stadium had like 3 flags in it, it was easier to cap other flags in conquest

[royal swan]

Then after that they dip and go to the arch or the town

I thought it was 2