battlefield-2042

[pine roost]

No, that’s the regular conquest or breakthrough mode

[remote kiln]

nothing I can comment on sorry my guy, various reasons why that could be the case, but I'll ask about the issue on Friday

[nocturne knot]

ill dm you a spesific reddit thread on this spesific matter. so you can read on it or forward it to devs. its %100 related to EA anticheat and this explains why i didnt encounter the bug pre-season 6.

[drowsy shuttle]

A better solution is not forcing us the EA app to launch the game for those who bought on Steam. Activision has a lot of flaws and problems but at least they didn't force us to get battle.net for those who bought modern warfare on steam. Its ridiculous.

[arctic grove]

holy shit the game is working

[nocturne knot]

i have DMd you the link.

[arctic grove]

no more error

[remote kiln]

I won't forward it to the developers, threads like Reddit have confirmation bias with causation and correlation with unrelated things, it's never that easy, which is why I won't comment on it, but I'll ask about the problem on Friday

[nocturne knot]

as soon as EA anticheat starts checking the mouse input goes wonky.

[calm bison]

So it’s interesting the UI update for BF1

Although it introduced 2042 to the sidebar

It kinda ruined that cool cloud effect when you join a server

It’s much more choppy

[remote kiln]

EA anticheat always checks, it never stops

and that's why causation is never correlation

[calm bison]

Also it moved the refresh button on the server browser

[nocturne knot]

i have limited the CPU usage to %70 and let it run free at %100 and on both situations as soon as the EA anticheat CPU usage spikes from %0.5-ish to %5-10 ish the mouse input goes wonky.

[remote kiln]

that's fine and all, but again there's 20 different variables going on here which is why this cannot be isolated, based on simply seeing something like a chart

software is complex and there's a lot going on, if it's a game issue, you won't see it reported anywhere that easy

[nocturne knot]

up to 31 comments with the same problem. i wouldnt say its a spesific issue on my end.

its obviously a bug in game. and most likely cos of EA anticheat. anyone with 2 active braincells can kinda realize that but im guessing devs still gotta dev.

at least i can get some info on it now so thanks.

ill wait for more info patiently.

i have DMd totalfps regardless about the situation. maybe it will help.

[shadow arch]

Before all of this though I started playing battlefield 1 unexpectedly after in 2020 during the pandemic and throughout the last few days of season 5 and the entirety of Redux I would be playing battlefield 1, Not only that but I would come into this discord server and talk about what happened at bf1, such as the mixed servers being emptier than the cookie jar, there were some mixed reactions from people here but i would often compare bf1 stuff with bf2042 stuff at that time, so get that too.The things that are implemented in Bf1, can now be felt in bf2042, with the release of season 6, Such as the shotguns.
In bf2042 before s6 shotgun logic, and I'm saying all of them in 2042 wouldn't compare to the shotgun logic in bf1 and bfv (BFV has the same shotgun logic as bf1,)
especially with the Mcs-880, super 500 or the NVK-S22, compare the logic of how those shotguns dealt damage to players in bf2042 and now compare to bf1's M97 Trench Gun, 12g automatic, Model 10-A, sawed off shotgun and Model 1900 double-barreled, and the Sjorgen Inertial, now let me compare the two, in bf2042 in seasons prior to season 6 you can shoot someone close up and that person would still be alive which breaks the purpose of shotguns, but in bf1 and bfv you could one shot multiple players at a social distance and they would all be dead immediatly, but now that ea provided us a survey and stuff like that, i told them to fix the shot gun to have them be like the shotguns in bf1 and bfv and they listened in season 6, in season 6 bf2042 the mcs880 finally feels like the Shotgun that it is supposed to be and it has the same logic as shotguns in bf1 and bfv which now makes me happy.

[pine roost]

so basically, mcs got a buff

[shadow arch]

Yes

[pine roost]

mcs is pretty good now

[shadow arch]

its not only the mcs but all shotguns in bf2042

[mental delta]

The fuck is happening in here ? Y'all are doing a rap contender ?

[deep pecan]

70-0 in a full Breathrough lobby is totally normal ye?

all headshot kills too

[pine roost]

yeah that sounds fair

[deep pecan]

Redacted too, so no heli kill farm here

totally normal gameplay

[stone cradle]

[vast matrix]

anyone have issues running BF2042 on steam? my friends and i are all stuck in a validation loop, and cant start the game after the update...

[shadow arch]

one of my answers when i did the bf2042 community survey was for them to give players playing as dozers the ability to do shield wall formations and to charge while in a shield wall formation like a spearton from stick war. (miss the flash game may it rest in everlasting piece)

[silent path]

I bought Bf 2042 for only 4 dollars 😄

[pine roost]

A good deal my word

[lilac dust]

Jesus lol 2042 peaked at 82K at some point today

Almost surpassed its lifetime peak

(Steam btw)

So that would be about 300K minimum overall across all platforms

Locker map + F2P is a pretty golden recipe

[stone sorrel]

I'm seeing 88.3k peak

[silent path]

Is EA still closed?

[lilac dust]

My numbers are just from a 2 hour old twitter post so looks like its still climbing. God damn!

[stone cradle]

I think they should extend the free weekend maybe by a few days

[lilac dust]

I think if there were no server issues then theres a good chance theyd surpass the lifetime peak today or tomorrow

[stone cradle]

Get more people from the mw3 beta onto the game

[silent path]

Now the entire BF series is on incredible discount, I think you should buy it

[old frigate]

Hey guys is the game working for y'all

it's not working for me

[errant scarab]

my 110 bucksss

[stone cradle]

I already had the game since December-ish of 2022

Never preordered

I learnt my lesson with BFV

[silent path]

where are you from

[errant scarab]

home

[silent path]

ok

[lilac dust]

I know that place!!

[plain meadow]

wtf

[silent path]

But a game on Mercury can already cost $110.

[stone cradle]

Mercury, the Battlefield V map

[errant scarab]

ha ha ha ha

[silent path]

Wasn't this map from BF1?

[lilac dust]

DICE for season 7 or 8. Give us an airport map. Or london city. Or a volcanic wasteland

Or scrap all of that and give us a naval map

[stone sorrel]

Is wake island available on 2042?

[vocal tusk]

Nope

[errant scarab]

lol

[silent path]

I think there needs to be a city map so we can have a full frontal war.

[errant scarab]

I would be the happiest person in the world if they added the lying on your back mechanic like BFV

[mighty holly]

That’s in season 10

[stone cradle]

Overflooded London

Like in the exodus short film

At night too

[lilac dust]

That should have been part of the launch maps. Couldve been an epic flood zone type map. Urban and naval combat

[stone cradle]

This would be such an awesome night map

[errant scarab]

siege of shangai

[stone cradle]

Only time a hovercraft would actually be useful

[errant scarab]

why battlepass progession is sooo sloww\

[stone cradle]

because you need so much xp to go up by a tier

[spare quest]

They slowed down the progression so people are gonna pay for the ultimate or fast track pass

[stone cradle]

well they were successful

[spare quest]

[stone cradle]

I got ultimate for the falck skin.

They baited me hard for that

[spare quest]

Atleast it's not a legendary skin

[topaz field]

The Apache helicopter pilots doing the same thing from BF4 staying out of bounds so you can't hit them with the soflam locked javelins

Either allow the javelin and other rockets to be able to hit locked targets more than 470m meters

[topaz breach]

Y’all fast tracking?

[mental delta]

At some point there was supposed to be naval combat in the game at launch, as well as boats and probably jet skis, sad it got cut down before game released

[neon igloo]

I would have paid for fast track but I bought the 1000 coin one first and I wouldn't get a refund on those coins if I now spent money

[tawny carbon]

I thought the ultimate just for the exclusive Falck skin.

[tacit sphinx]

if they’re staying that far away they’re not really doing anything to pose a threat tbh

[topaz field]

Orbital?

[mental delta]

Usually they go out of bounds when they're damaged and you can't finish them after damaging vehicles

[chilly dove]

Does this game no longer work with Overwolf at all? EA App version

[tawny carbon]

The game wont do great with naval combat in 2042

[vocal tusk]

Based on how weak the water mechanics in this game are, I doubt there was any significant naval combat planned for the game

[tawny carbon]

^

[remote kiln]

EA anticheat does not support several overlay software such as overwolf

[tawny carbon]

You can even swim in 2042. If so, you can’t even dive in the water like BF4. Water is very shallow in 2042

[mental delta]

Most likely as it's one of the only maps who has a little part near water, I'd say Discarded too maybe, but the most likely thing was a map totally planned for naval combat, a map named "Docks" had been datamined I think

[vocal tusk]

If any were planned, they would at least have a relatively fleshed out swimming, diving/water traversal system in the game, but we cant even dive like you could in BF4 here.

[chilly dove]

Because it worked in Redux. Only now in Season 6 does it not work

[remote kiln]

yes, because season 6 added EA anticheat

so the answer is no you can't use it

[mental delta]

There was definitely naval combat planned, just not with huge mechanics, but at least a few naval parts for some maps as some naval vehicles had been datamined

[vocal tusk]

the only naval vehicles mined are a jet ski and a rhib boat

[mental delta]

That's still naval vehicles lol

[tawny carbon]

I remember swimming across the water in Kaleidoscope in Y1. Now you can sprint through the water and shot your weapon like normal. Because they made the water very shallow.

[pine roost]

I don't see why they'd bother doing it this late in the game's life

[vocal tusk]

We even have rhib boats on Noshahr canals

[mental delta]

It was probably planned that some maps had multiple water parts that you could at least cross with jets skis and rhib boats

[mental delta]

Never talked about doing it now lol ? Just saying it was probably planned before launch

[chilly dove]

Wait did S6 get an something other than Easy Anti-cheat now? I remember that anti-cheat programs often block some overlays

[remote kiln]

the game does not use easy anti cheat anymore

it uses EA anti cheat

[vocal tusk]

The game doesnt use Easy Anti Cheat now, it uses the new Kernel level EA Anti-cheat

[pine roost]

fair enough

[chilly dove]

ah thanks

[mental delta]

Some people still seem to think there's gonna be massive mechanic improvements or new important features but it won't, game has probably hit the second half of it's post-launch lifetime and they won't bother to add any significant changes

[errant scarab]

why ?

[tawny carbon]

EA made their own AC now for their games.

[errant scarab]

why they change it

[fickle wharf]

Eac is ass

[vocal tusk]

I mean...literally the last update entirely changed how all ground vehicles perform mechanically, so I wouldnt say this statement is totally true

[chilly dove]

Overwolf is not a cheat, it's just a more functional overlay. Is there a way to get that cleared by EA? Other shooters usually give certain programs whitelist passes

[remote kiln]

easy anti cheat has numerous compatibility issues with software and in general isn't that optimal for cheat prevention, you need a AC similar to vanguard to enforce checks such as secure boot to prevent hardware spoofing

[vocal tusk]

they have more control over updating this anti-cheat (as its one they make/own and update) compared to Easy Anti-cheat. Based on my experience so far, they seem to be able to ban cheaters faster.

I reported 1 hacker and 3 hours later got an email that they had been banned

[mental delta]

Lol yes I've been not precise, by significant changes I mean implementing new features like naval vehicles like we were discussing, or call-in system, I mean the only things that may ever change are those which are already in the game, they won't add any new significant changes

[chilly dove]

that's good though

[tawny carbon]

I still believe to this day. 2042 will never see Naval combat maps or anything close to that. Set for some minor transport vehicles to across the water.

[vocal tusk]

Of course it wont, now should it TBH.

[fickle wharf]

Muh naval

[tawny carbon]

Mmm 🤔 to late for that tbh

[vocal tusk]

They should (IMO) concentrate on furter improving class/vehicle and weapon balance...then adding more maps.

[chilly dove]

Any staff on who can answer this question?

[pine roost]

I'd get more excited by a helicopter related patch note than adding jetskis

[vocal tusk]

Maps first tho...and adding map rotations/persistent servers to all AOW modes

[mental delta]

Nope, I'd rather learn that they cut out support after a eighth season because they're hardly making next game

[chilly dove]

I guess it's saturday, all staff are 🛌

[patent pivot]

I'm the opposite here lol

[mental delta]

Yup I put them lads to bed and read them a little night book

[patent pivot]

give me more variety of content, and potentially revive portal support

[chilly dove]

It's unhealthy to think this way about them. But more importantly, do you have any idea how to get an overlay whitelisted with EA games?

[patent prism]

Time, probably just time.

[chilly dove]

gotcha

[mental delta]

What is unhealthy to talk about them like this lol ? I just made a joke about me putting Dice officials to bed after reading them a little story

[remote kiln]

no there isn't, DICE didn't develop and they don't maintain the EA anti cheat, you're out of luck

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/crippled-team-online-gif-18663357

I’m sick of my team

[chilly dove]

I see it has progressed into late terminal stage. There there

[vocal tusk]

IMO...they could improve a lot by giving all engineers +1 launcher ammo by default (Like they did to Crawford). Keep Lis TV missile count as it is, but make recharge rate on her missiles a bit faster

Then reduce the C5 spawn count of all classes from 3>2 (Can be increased to 3 at an ammo box)...but give Lis 3 C5 at spawn.

That way you keep engineers as the out and out anti-vehicle class, but other classes also have some capability against them (You can still destroy heavy armor by placing two C5 on the top/rear of them)

Engineers are then also better balanced, as Boris/Crawford both have a good amount of launcher ammo to deal with vehicles.

Boris has an auto turret that does less damage, but doesn't require player action, Crawford has a manual turret that does more damage, but requires active player use, and Lis has her TV missile...and the capability to spawn with 3 C5 (Since she isnt able to take the other launchers/get an advantage from the +1 to its ammo)

[mental delta]

WTF are you even talking about lol ?

[simple lotus]

.

[tawny carbon]

Sheesh 🙄 rn due to F2P. This is only Steam numbers.

[chilly jacinth]

man cant process jokes

[mint gyro]

Na it sounds like u want a new game why is there so much here

[vocal tusk]

Minor changes here TBH

I could do this on the portal editor in about 30 mins

[patent prism]

Then do so.

[patent pivot]

advanced AI bot editor when

[remote kiln]

why are you all dismissing his suggestions? they're perfectly valid

I don't agree with the C5 change altogether but they're not unreasonable

[vocal tusk]

Why are you so passive aggressive to any actual thought out suggestions?

[naive quiver]

I wonder what’s reason for my team squad to stay at one point from the beginning to the end

[tawny carbon]

That’s a great suggestion tbh

[vocal tusk]

Sorry, next time ill just say "Make engineers better" and call it a day

[chilly dove]

Parasocial relationship joke, don't worry about it

[mental delta]

Parasoci what ?

[jovial slate]

With what?

[patent prism]

I don't feel that I am particularly aggressive let alone passive aggressive against thought out suggestions.

[vocal tusk]

I feel like C5 is currently too useful.

Mainly cos 9/12 specialists have it, and its a pretty easy to use tool.

[patent prism]

I just find that most "thought out" suggestions are not really particularly thought out, but I do value people making a case for their suggestions in here so other people can provide additional perspectives.

[chilly dove]

aka 1 sided relationships. like infatuated viewer <-> streamer/influencer

[patent pivot]

dang

what's her name? the one with jammer

[ebon pilot]

Blasco

[vocal tusk]

Blasco

[errant scarab]

@vocal tusk why no more videos?

[patent pivot]

I have a suggestion for her

[vocal tusk]

Fuk...comment sniped

[patent pivot]

increase her jammer radius

[vocal tusk]

It was just increased

[patent prism]

I should add, I am certainly no exception to this.

[patent pivot]

big enough to cover the whole tunnel of redacted

[vocal tusk]

Its big enough to cover the entirety of the B and C flags on Redacted already

[patent pivot]

bigger

I wanna be the commander

bigger jammer and uav / tug

[vocal tusk]

There already is a TUGS

[patent pivot]

now where's my promotion squad option

[vocal tusk]

Squad and players tab

[remote kiln]

I agree, but it's a catch 22 situation with stripping their utility entirely from classes, there has to be considerations for something like assault to have 3 or they become defunct almost immediately for attempting to destroy vehicles

medic and recon maybe 2, but you couldn't do it universally

[patent pivot]

only leader reassign

[mental delta]

[patent pivot]

and where's my fast squad deploy bonus

[vocal tusk]

the only reason they kept it on Assault was so Mackay and Sundance could still get their "Battlefield Moments"

They still can, by placing 2 on the top or rear. On all vehicles (Other than the Brawler) 2 charges will kill it from there

[ebon pilot]

or on the ground

[chilly jacinth]

never seen that happen

[vocal tusk]

Not even 3 kills a Brawler (By design)

[patent prism]

That's always sort of annoyed me, personally. I find it odd that the Brawler can survive 3 C5 anywhere, although that's most certainly my realism damaged brain.

[spare quest]

AT mines > c5

[vocal tusk]

I also dislike it. I dislike a lot about the Brawler tho (Even though I do enjoy driving it)

Yeah, 3 AT mines also dont kill it

[spare quest]

wrong

[patent prism]

What's your opinion on the 40mm Incendiary?

[vocal tusk]

Hate it, too many nades can be fired, and it still goes through cover.

It needs slower fire rate (Pardon the pun) and a faster overheat/less ammo

[patent prism]

Couldn't possibly agree more, it's a bit over-the-top for my taste.

[vocal tusk]

the worst part of the Brawler is that it can take APS and close defense system at the same time tho. That shouldnt be allowed at all

It should be one or the other

[patent prism]

The Brawler really lives up to it's name, in a horrendously bad way.

[vocal tusk]

I liek that there is a decently fast transport vehicle, thats a bit tanky to C5...but I just dislike its loadouts.

[brave whale]

what weapons are the best?

[patent prism]

I don't use vehicles a lot, nor do I even attempt to get close to a Brawler because I know that I can't destroy it when I'm on foot.

[vocal tusk]

I would like all armor to have the same/similar armor. Its confusing to the average player, when they see 2/3 C5 destroy a heavy battle tank...but 3 not destroy this random light armor

[patent prism]

Yeah, it's a rather odd choice to make the Brawler be able to shrug off 3 C5 but 2 C5 kills a main battle tank.

[ebon pilot]

The defaults. M5A3, LCMG, SWS-10. Also the PP-29 and the BSV-M

[vocal tusk]

Like...I arrived at my idea about the C5 spawn rate nerf by looking at the Brawler, its armor resistance to C5 and thinking about how that behavior could be transfered to other vehicle damage classes

If all but Lis spawned with 2 C5...all armor would essential by default player spawn behavior...have similar armor as the brawler.

[patent prism]

The DM7 is pretty good once you get a hang of it's fire rate.

[vocal tusk]

BSV-M kind wrecks all weapons overall IMO.

[stone cradle]

rn VHX is great

[vocal tusk]

High power ammo, short barrel, full auto mode

[patent prism]

Yeah the BSV-M is a rather good assault rifle (because it sure isn't used as a DMR). I wish they would remove it's full-auto capability and instead give it to the DM7.

[vocal tusk]

TBH...you could probably also buff Recon pick rates by nerfing assault C5 spawn amount, but keeping recons at 3

[topaz field]

I dunno why it takes so long to find matches on PS4 🥲

[vocal tusk]

PS4 version is a different game version with no PC crossplay

[remote kiln]

https://youtu.be/r_SPymUy1sA?si=kx90dMG74pCgYiy6

[vocal tusk]

You can only crossplay with Xbox One

[topaz field]

I know but I'd expect since it's a free to play weekend the matchmaking would be a lot faster

[vocal tusk]

FTP weekend is also on the last gen version?

[topaz field]

Mr Beast twin pfp

[topaz field]

They said PS, Xbox so i would think it would be for all gen

[vocal tusk]

Must be such a pain in the ass to have to support those consoles still.

[quiet gull]

fr lol

[mental delta]

Deco is Mr Beast twin confirmed ???

[topaz field]

Tbh its so hard to play on PS4 I wanted to see what it's like everything feels so slow

[vocal tusk]

No offense to anyone on those consoles, im mainly speaking as a dev myself who only works on PC/PS5/Switch 😄

[topaz field]

I have a lot of boins on my PS4 account sucks I can't transfer them to PC 🥲

[remote kiln]

because of Sony and Microsofts bullshit they were forced to support the older gen consoles for a game which wasn't built for it, that's stopped now so it's extremely unlikely the next game will have any last gen support

[vocal tusk]

Isnt the account the same regardless of platform?

[stone cradle]

But you can?

[remote kiln]

yes it is

[stone cradle]

You can link an EA account to your ps account

[topaz field]

Yeah it is but currency don't sync 🥲

[stone cradle]

Cross platform saves that sync

I play between Xbox and pc regularly, no issues

[vocal tusk]

Spend it all on battle pass skips lol

[topaz field]

I have ultimate edition on PC and gold on PS4

[vocal tusk]

(Bad advice)

[topaz field]

Yeah I use the PS to buy the premium pass 😁

[remote kiln]

premium currency doesn't transfer over

they are tied to the platform

[stone cradle]

oh

[topaz field]

Yeah it sucks 😭

[stone cradle]

So strange though.

guess they don't have the tech

[topaz field]

🤷🏿‍♂️

[remote kiln]

they do have the tech lol, they're not allowed to

Microsoft and Sony want their cut for microtransactions it has been this way for years

[topaz field]

Typical EA

[remote kiln]

?

[patent prism]

huh

[remote kiln]

it's not EA's call

[patent prism]

what

[topaz field]

Ahhh I see what you mean

[stone cradle]

why does it work for every other game then.

[remote kiln]

it doesnt

lol

[stone cradle]

It works for Fortnite?

[remote kiln]

Fortnite is one of the only games it works for

because epic cried about it and Sony capitulated

[stone cradle]

wow

[topaz field]

Prob due to contract

[remote kiln]

it doesn't apply to other games

[vocal tusk]

*Due to the sheer amount of money Fortnite was making on those platforms.

Epic had a lot of leverage due to that...and their DAU

[remote kiln]

pretty much

Sony were trying to force developers to pay a fee to add cross platform play, they are vehemently against anything which doesn't support their vision of exclusivity

[stone cradle]

Oh yeah I remember that debacle

Sony finally budged in the end though, they really don't like inter-connectedness with other platforms

[topaz field]

Gotcha

[vocal tusk]

It really is such a shame that 2042 has had so many issues in this FTP period...EA app had 4 separate issues...steam file validation...and how common the black screen bug after a game is. Tonnes of negative reviews for the game, which dont really apply to the game/gameplay itself

[remote kiln]

one thing is for sure battlefield 5 definitely isn't getting EA anti cheat after this shitshow

[vocal tusk]

I dont think the issues relate to the anti-cheat...maybe tho, but it doesnt seem like it to me

[remote kiln]

Steam's update for season 6 was broke entirely because of the EAC installation, any hope of it being added to 5 after that debacle are dead in the water now

[naive quiver]

in my opinion EA app is worse than origin , sometimes when I login to EA app then some games was missing

[topaz field]

Dang

[patent pivot]

that's server issue

it happened to me

[vocal tusk]

the validation files issue was related to EA apps update, not the anti-cheat

[naive quiver]

You mean EA cheap server issue ?

[patent pivot]

lol yeah

[stone cradle]

Origin was simple and lightweight. They really didn't need to reinvent it

[topaz field]

The new EA anticheat messes with my azure VPN if Im working and launch 2042 it drops my remote session 🥲

[remote kiln]

the anti cheat, is built into the EA launcher, because the steam client wouldn't run the install script for the anti-cheat

and that's why it's definitely never coming to 5 now

anymore complaints about recurring update failures from thousands is a recipe for a disaster

[vocal tusk]

EA app is just so unecessary. But I have had a significantly worse time with it, vs origin. I never once had an issue with a game launching on origin, but it happened all the time with EA app before applying the fix for it

Apex uses steam natively AFAIK...all games should do this

[stone cradle]

Origin was fine, I never thought the UI looked ugly

Which apparantly was a major reason why they made the EA app

[patent pivot]

one downgrade from EA app

[remote kiln]

apex has a minified binary of the EA app, it just uses steams APIs for certain things

[patent pivot]

no fps overlay

[remote kiln]

2042 just installs the full thing on boot

[naive quiver]

sometimes EA app changed the language automatically to some difference, I hope this is not server issue again right

[patent pivot]

funny game moment: first time joining FNB this week

game immediately crashed hard

closing the app

[stone cradle]

"Wow, that is truly Battlefield"

[naive quiver]

update to window 11

Your issues will be solved

[patent pivot]

laughs in no more sufficient storage

and under minimum CPU

[topaz field]

No I don't trust Windows 11 for gaming as yet

[remote kiln]

?

[naive quiver]

Why not , no issue with window 11 so far

[remote kiln]

you get better performance on 11 lol

[naive quiver]

Yes I agreed

[patent pivot]

if you're still concerned

go install ameliorated 11

will debloat most things

[remote kiln]

debloating is a scam lmao

a sure fire way to get half your software not running that's for sure

[stone cradle]

W11 is just W10.5 no harm in upgrading

Been stable for ages

[patent pivot]

I do suggest Ameliorating your PC

helps the operating experience little more smoother

[remote kiln]

you make no sense

it doesn't change anything

[stone cradle]

It's good to uninstall stuff like cortana and copilot though

Though yeah registry 'cleaners' and stuff like that are a scam

[brave whale]

this game is dumb, after every time I finish a match, screen goes black

[vocal tusk]

Just select world language and it doesnt install any of the bloat by default anyways

[patent pivot]

obviously ameliorated doesn't touch those

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

[brave whale]

its not gpu lol

got over 150 fps ezz

[vocal tusk]

The issue is their post game matchmaking.

Alledgedly

[naive quiver]

How come didnt happen to me

[vocal tusk]

I have not had this issue yet, so im not sure how to reproduce it

But 2 people I was playing with lastnight had it every round

[brave whale]

its a weird ,bug, I play game just fine, but after match end, whole screen goes black, and I gotta alt f4

[patent pivot]

I can resent that

guessing it's hardware

[brave whale]

funny how stuff happens when game goes f2p

[kindred flint]

bro that bug is a legacy bug at this point

its already going to college its been in the game so long

[brave whale]

lol

[kindred flint]

seems like it happens if you just try going directly to the main menu after a match

[brave whale]

apparently some textures cant load, and thats why it happens, no ideea what to do lol.....

[kindred flint]

if you hit continue, until you get the return to menu button its fine?

[brave whale]

when I hit continue after every match, to go into next, thats when it happens

[kindred flint]

omfg the specialists textures not loading...so stupid lol

[patent pivot]

the round result?

[kindred flint]

yeah

[patent pivot]

bro

[vocal tusk]

What if you select return to menu?

[patent pivot]

I thought that's hardware related

[brave whale]

that is fine lol

[patent pivot]

is it not?

[kindred flint]

where you get the animated plus symbol instead

[patent pivot]

I have a weak ass spec

what about you?

[kindred flint]

the other day 3 werent rendered but 1 was....so thats something

[brave whale]

mine is okish, 3060, i5 13400 16 gb ram ddr5

[kindred flint]

i mean my game was fine before lol

this bug just popped up a couple seasons ago and apparently its on the cutting room floor for dice bug fixing

[brave whale]

cant hit 240 fps though

[kindred flint]

bet the next game theyre all working so hard on will also have it in the code

[patent pivot]

do you have weak spec?

[kindred flint]

8600, 3070, 16gb ram

[patent pivot]

oh

then it must be the game bugging out

not hardware

[kindred flint]

no, its definitely bugging out

[patent pivot]

good to know

[vague cedar]

after a game my game just has a black screen how do I fix it?

[patent pivot]

you can't atm

[brave whale]

what gun do I use? I have only 5 Ars enabled, does it matter which gun I use rn ,to level up?

[patent pivot]

best to avoid is by waiting until match ends

[kindred flint]

say hello to your alt-f4 key combo

[vague cedar]

dang major L

[kindred flint]

truth is most of the weapons are fine to use

[patent pivot]

or just wait another second until next round

then you may safely exit to menu

[kindred flint]

M5 as solid all round, same with the AK...SFAR is a bit op still

[vague cedar]

alr thx

[vapid lily]

what's a good all range weapon?

[naive quiver]

MCS

[kindred flint]

any AR except the am40 bsvm is also nutty for being a marksman rifle -cough-

[naive quiver]

MCS is a monster in new map

One shot kill

[brave whale]

no sfar yet

[vapid lily]

for msvm I just need to lvl up?

[kindred flint]

uhh in the collection tab on the main menu youll see what you have to do to unlock it since it was from season 1

you can do that vs bots though to make it fast/easy

[strong snow]

[royal swan]

Can't wait to see the player count dip after the free weekend

Bro it's insane how large the player count went

[stone cradle]

will miss the newcomers

Easy xp farm 😔

[brave whale]

so msvm and sfar

[royal swan]

It's nearly the same as when the game first launched

[naive quiver]

EA please extend the free access

[willow sky]

i have to start using it again

[errant bramble]

has anyone else had trouble launching the game? ever since the update the game keeps on "validating" over and over. bought the game on steam. ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling with the same problem

[frozen loom]

You angered them by asking. Now it’s double the price.

[royal swan]

Clear EA app cache

[errant bramble]

how do i do that

[royal swan]

That should help

[brave whale]

what is msvm?

[chilly jacinth]

think he meant bsvm

[brave whale]

oh ye\

how do I play vs bots? to grind exp fast?

[patent pivot]

double check the menu options

you'll see it

[kindred flint]

black screen lets goooooo

wanted to see the new pistol unlock pop up on the screen

[drowsy shuttle]

just choose any mode.. its full of AI anyway

[kindred flint]

thanks dice..really loving this love letter

[sullen quarry]

Greetings

I love letters

[stone cradle]

Bots give you moderate xp

[sullen quarry]

I read em

[brave whale]

so what is best way/mode to grind some exp?

[kindred flint]

but hey first time in 2 days ive actually finished a match so that was poggers..although my 54 kills was top, which is scary

[sullen quarry]

Git gud probably

[kindred flint]

playing the new map, since its a cluster fuck is good xp

[brave whale]

redacted?

[kindred flint]

play falck with an ammo box, heal people, revive when its "safe"

[stone cradle]

Rush xl and on the new map

[kindred flint]

throw ammo on your allies, using smoke nades when you unlock them either on enemies or on friendlies will give bonux xp

[patent pivot]

or

and

use jammer

ez assists

[brave whale]

new map is redacted?

[patent pivot]

yes

[brave whale]

ty

[jovial slate]

Hey do you guys know how to fix packet loss?

[willow sky]

it would've been interesting if the cyborg skins had different voicelines, or voices in general

[final valve]

Hi, what kind of OS issue? Everything worked just fine before update. Mouse lag is happening since the last update. Tried everything - reinstalled game, deleted personal settings, exchanged mouse, but no luck. My setup 5800x3d, 4070ti, win11 updated, 32gb of ram, logitech g502. single display. I would be thankful if someone will take a look. I'm here if additional information is needed.

[remote kiln]

the game (and others) doesn't control the input, it's read from windows driver binaries which is then used to calculate various precision details on the screen, so things can go array, its more common as a generic issue with sensitivity calculations becoming a mess, this specific issue is "fixable" by the game, but what I was more getting at is the game isn't the authority who controls it, so it can't actually be fixed, except by the driver maintainers, there's nothing you can do to prevent the issue until it's fixed (I do not work for DICE or EA, merely trying to bring transparency on the root problem at hand)

[gusty stone]

Gonna try to play some Falck next time, biotic pistol might just be 👌

[topaz field]

Just make it free to play

[kindred flint]

considering how often its been on sale for what $20 or less.....theyd probably make more money off idiots buying skins with it being f2p at this point

[worldly sail]

how does the suppressors changes effect the BSV?

[remote kiln]

suppressors are terrible don't use them at all

[worldly sail]

I mean the BSV has a built in supp

[teal spoke]

Has anyone ever found a fix for the infinite black screens after a couple of matches?

[remote kiln]

oh, well tldr is its a indirect nerf

since the bsvm can't remove it it's a nerf to the weapon since suppressor utility is the same with it and others

[remote kiln]

no fix at present, known by DICE

[kindred flint]

when i stopped playing the game for 2 months it never happened to me other than that...wait for dice to never fix it?

[teal spoke]

I'm hopeful that they will eventually as it's really a turn off from playing

[kindred flint]

nah dice is just being considerate you know, since the game can be so horribly unbalanced you only want to play 1 round at a time then take a long break

[teal spoke]

Balance will always be an issue when you have "heroes" with special abilitiejs

sadly

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/lucy-van-pelt-lucy-peanuts-lucy-take-profits-take-profits-lucy-gif-23632835

[radiant prism]

Calling them special abilities when it’s really just gadgets with associated skins is dumb IMO

[teal spoke]

how are they not special abilities if they are unique to the character?

Sorry but an ability to gain truesight or a "gadget" that does the same is literally the same.

[radiant prism]

Ok, so what do we call gadgets for classes in previous games? Are they not “special abilities”, only available to specific characters? Or can we admit this is just nitpicking and that it ultimately doesn’t change much about the core experience

[remote kiln]

because they can be changed and altered on a whim, it isn't really unique, and a lot overlap

[teal spoke]

but they have both? they have traits AND gadgets

so its just more gadgets then?

[radiant prism]

Ok, so did previous games. Remember combat abilities or whatever they were called from BF4?

[gray comet]

We called em gadget 1 and gadget 2

[teal spoke]

They were no where near as close as a special gimmick as those things are now though.

Also don't forget that it was meant to be a hero shooter revolving around those gimmicks.

[radiant prism]

It’s not that different. Trying to equate 2042 to a true hero shooter like Apex or Overwatch falls flat on its face the moment you look past the surface level.

[gray comet]

They were there to sell in-game cosmetics

[radiant prism]

That is true

[gray comet]

And be irritating as fuck.

[teal spoke]

I get that you don't want me to call them abilities but they do cause an inherit inbalance don't they.

[radiant prism]

In what way?

[azure zenith]

Sup homies! 💯

[wooden birch]

bro just got booted..? ea sv down again? 💀

[vapid lily]

how do I get the robodoggo?

[gray comet]

I mean 2042 specialists do have special passive abilities past BFs didn’t

[teal spoke]

in the fact that some of them are simply better than others

[gray comet]

Such as Casper’s magic paranoia that tells me 2 seconds before that one Dozer main here stabs me that I’m about to be stabbed

[ebon pilot]

https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Field_Upgrades_(Battlefield_4)

[gray comet]

Nah you actually had to play as a squad for those and they were usually just extra equipment

[ebon pilot]

What's Crawford's trait?

[radiant prism]

He gets an extra rocket now

[ebon pilot]

Dozer's trait?

[radiant prism]

Slight explosive resistance

[mint sable]

waiting time is too slow

[ebon pilot]

woah it's crazy

[teal spoke]

Things like paik EMG are almost exactly what an ability would do

[mint sable]

they have smt similar in bf1 i think

[ebon pilot]

wow you're right it's the same
https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Specializations_(Battlefield_1)#Class_Specializations

[mint sable]

i cant tell if thats sarcasm or not

[radiant prism]

Good job at picking the most extreme example, but when other gadgets are simply special grenade types, spotting drones, or rocket launchers, it kinda becomes an exception that proves the rule

[ebon pilot]

it's not

[mint sable]

ohh :3

[teal spoke]

Even if it is the most extreme example it IS an example isn't it?

[arctic grove]

The difference with older games is they’re class based shooters, this is 100% a hero shooter and an easier way to imagine the difference is specialists are really similar to r6s operators, overwatch, etc

[radiant prism]

An outlier does count as an example yes, but does not provide the basis for the rest of the examples

[teal spoke]

i don't even know why you want to argue about this so much. You call them gadgets i call them abilities. They still do their unique gimmicky thing.

[calm bison]

Abilities implies that the character can just do what the gadget does

Calling the SPH an ability is effectively saying that Mackay can throw grenades from his hand

[radiant prism]

My entire point is that it’s stupid to nitpick this stupid subject, let’s talk about the actual issues with the game

[teal spoke]

Isn't an ability something that uniquely distinguishes you from the next person?

[radiant prism]

Yes. By that logic that would make literally every other game in the franchise a hero shooter.

See my point?

[arctic grove]

Specialists are an issue tho, they’re a core design problem that we can infer comes from ea/dice being out of touch with the community

[ebon pilot]

Team Fortress 2 is more of a hero shooter than Battlefield 2042

[calm bison]

The passive traits on specialists are abilities

Mackay being able to move faster ADS is an ability

[teal spoke]

I'd say that specialists are an issue into why they can't further build on the core of BF2042.

[calm bison]

He cannot summon grappling hooks from his palm

That’s a gadget

[azure zenith]

Abilities, gadgets, specialties.... Gecc has a point. Doesn't matter what game they all have it. Except Halo! Rocket launcher city over there. Lol

[arctic grove]

Even if they’re just skins it’s a bit more important than some may think if dice is (as far as we’re currently aware) completely abandoning them in the next title

[radiant prism]

The pure amount of cosmetics selling is an issue yes. No one would nearly have as much of a problem if they didn’t have names.

[calm bison]

I think the next BF should incorporate BFV’s character customization and 2042’s

Let us choose which character we can use

[radiant prism]

People just hate that instead of Assault and Support it’s now Jeff and Bob.

[teal spoke]

My only point was in having unique things tied to a class or character creates an inherit inbalance in that character simply being better than others to play.

[sullen quarry]

Hello guys

[arctic grove]

I’m ok with cosmetic micro transactions in bf but it should’ve just been like BFV

[azure zenith]

That would be dope

[calm bison]

But let us only change head gear and body

[mint sable]

scatter grenades are so op ugh

[calm bison]

Let’s choose our own characters per class

[ebon pilot]

REAL

[calm bison]

But don’t go overboard with the customization

[arctic grove]

No, dice should completely forget about unique characters unless they’re elites

[mint sable]

yes

[arctic grove]

If they’re elites or something similar then ok whatevs

[radiant prism]

Has that not been an issue between classes to some extent in every other game? Some gadgets and gadget selections were inherently better for certain things than other

[calm bison]

Because then you get a US officer wearing shorts and a tank top

[mint sable]

bf5 character customisation was atrocious

[arctic grove]

[teal spoke]

They should have just given us a "blank" character which you can customize however you want abilities and all.

[mint sable]

there should be a few historically accurate optons, thats it

[calm bison]

But there are

[azure zenith]

I'd personally take the tracker grenade back over the scatter grenade.

[arctic grove]

Yes

Agreed

[ebon pilot]

That's almost what launch 2042 was like. Choosing a specialist was choosing a passive trait and gadget. Everything else was open loadout

[arctic grove]

BFV system was ok for cosmetics in general but as far as how people used it that could use some work…

[calm bison]

Again

Have it like 2042 where we can choose only head and body customization

That’s it

[arctic grove]

That’s fair enough yea

[gray comet]

The big gun

Right

[teal spoke]

loved my BFV deluxe edition skins /s

[ebon pilot]

That's his gadget.

[calm bison]

But have it where like in BFV we can select a “unique” character

[ebon pilot]

His trait is deep pockets which gives him an extra rocket

[pine roost]

me when gunter

[calm bison]

I put unique in quotations because they’re basically all the same just different facial features

[arctic grove]

I just miss unnamed masked/generic soldiers

[calm bison]

BFV works because although they do individualize the experience it’s never to a level where it’s clones

[arctic grove]

They can even monetize those, just create a shit ton of tacticool stuff

[calm bison]

Take the character of Gunter in BFV

The character may look the same

[arctic grove]

Eastern/Russian/etc faction gets different csto soldiers, vice versa with western/American/etc

[calm bison]

But their outfit is different

[sinful ingot]

should i buy this game for $10 or is it trash

[teal spoke]

One of the worst things right now is that you need to requeue after every match. Whilst in bfv you could just keep on going. Why did they even change those systems so much.

[arctic grove]

It’s not worth more than 20 so I will give you that but

[sullen quarry]

Hi

[calm bison]

DICE has placed some kind of technology issue for no server browser for AOW

[arctic grove]

If you liked the game concept in the beginning you’ll enjoy it now

[sullen quarry]

Are we talking about how much the game is worth again?

[calm bison]

However, there should be persistent lobbies

Persistent lobbies should be a thing in AOW

[arctic grove]

Persistent lobbies and server browser are ideal

I wouldn’t want one without the other tbh it’s just quality of life stuff

[teal spoke]

what happens in any game that those things aren't there at launch.

[arctic grove]

Massive fuck ups

[teal spoke]

fair

[arctic grove]

Yes

[radiant prism]

I think the one thing that needs to return next title is faction-differentiating cosmetics. You can at least wear cosmetics in this game that resemble one faction or the other, but that falls apart when people just wear whatever

[teal spoke]

But things that made battlefield battlefield for all these years shouldn't just randomly dissapear. Who makes those descisions

[gray comet]

I mean

The M5 is a big gun

So almost correct

[azure zenith]

Let's face it!!! BF2042 has always been the least sucky FPS game since release. Even when it was at it's worse. Dice literally pulled this out of a garbage can on release. And people would still play it over COD, Apex, Overwatch and practically the rest of the competition. So, gadgets, Abilities, operators, specialists. Honestly, it's crazy how BF2042 capitalized with season 6. Now talk of 4 years of support. 2042 had become it's own thing. And honestly has the potential to take over the competition coming out. 💯🤷‍♂️

[arctic grove]

?

As far as numbers go, CoD apex and overwatch literally make this game look dead

[teal spoke]

i feel like this is a copy pasta of some sort

[arctic grove]

Yea I probably just got baited tbh

[remote kiln]

what competition lol

[tacit sphinx]

tbf two of those are f2p and cod is just like inherently more popular than bf

[remote kiln]

this franchise has no competition

[tacit sphinx]

idk

xdefiant number one competitor to every game

[arctic grove]

True, it’s just the original point was something about “people would rather play this than those”

[calm bison]

81K recent players?

[teal spoke]

The COD vs BF competition to me always came down to people that liked more fast paced fragging over more tactical gameplay.

[kindred flint]

how happy are OW1 players right now?

[teal spoke]

Overwhat?

[kindred flint]

cod was always small scale shit too until 2019

[arctic grove]

To be fair, it’s free to play rn, but pretty much all of those people are playing it for memes

[remote kiln]

COD and battlefield are not a competition lol

[arctic grove]

Before that this game was averaging under 10k on that same platform

[calm bison]

CoD has regressed back to the “same shit different disc” mantra

[remote kiln]

COD outsells battlefield 3:1 and we know this officially from court documents, that's not a competition, it's a different league

[teal spoke]

If it works why change it.

[azure zenith]

Going from 20k to 100k players in the first week is alot. On the previous gen version of the game. I almost never see a bot in a lobby and seeing alot of accounts under level 20. Only time will tell. But definitely underdog capable at this point. I mean, here we are all talking about it. Lol

[arctic grove]

It’s because it’s free rn tho

[ebon pilot]

I like fast paced fragging, but I like variety. 2042 is fast paced, but it's not just fast paced fragging. There's vehicles, different environments, etc etc. That's why I don't like Redacted that much. Even though I get a ton of kills on it, it's so boring.

It's also why I don't play cod

[arctic grove]

The game is still a meme and has a horrible reputation for being dices genuine worst fuckup

[teal spoke]

With 2042 they promised a game true to the original battlefield fan but tried to change everything that made it what we remember battlefield to be.

[arctic grove]

Most people are playing for memes and that’s largely it

[sullen quarry]

Hi

[remote kiln]

it's still peanuts compared to F2P games, OW has millions of players concurrently monthly, same as apex, you can't compete with free

[arctic grove]

Underdog status, no cause it’s so far from its predecessors

[arctic grove]

[sullen quarry]

What are you handing me

[arctic grove]

The best chocolate milk

[kindred flint]

maps like redacted/locker/metro etc...or shipment/shoothouse exist for mindless fun and or weapon grinding

[sullen quarry]

[teal spoke]

I want battlefield to do well but release of this one made it hard, even though i have a lot of fun playing it there's some super tedious things that seem so easy to fix.

[kindred flint]

fun of course is subjective when you have tons of explosive spam but...generally speaking

[sullen quarry]

dies

[calm bison]

Do you use a computer?

[remote kiln]

there is a lot of resources being invested into the next title, much more than in previous times, I'd keep that expectation for that rather than this

[calm bison]

Simple yes or no question

[sullen quarry]

A console is a computer

[teal spoke]

yes but i don't see the relevance

[sullen quarry]

Your phone is a computer

Your BRAIN is a computer

[calm bison]

Ok do you use that computer to write things?

[teal spoke]

I'm still going to be hopeful. Just hope it's not a repeat.

[mint sable]

i love it when a grenade lands at my feet and the E button dissapears

[sullen quarry]

Sometimes I toss a grenade away ny accident

[spare quest]

New bug?

[arctic grove]

On the bright side you can’t cook grenades in 2042

[remote kiln]

if you know who Marcus lehto is, he's in charge of making the next story, as an idea

[arctic grove]

[teal spoke]

write "things"? what books? code?

[calm bison]

Anything. Letters for work, maybe word documents. Do you use it to write?

[mint sable]

maybe, might just be the game being broken in general

[sullen quarry]

Everybody uses Google Docs now

[spare quest]

No

[teal spoke]

i feel like wherever you going with this, you should just get to the point

[sullen quarry]

He's gonna tell you to get a console

[calm bison]

Why do you use a computer to write things? Surely pen and paper works fine

If it works why change it.

[sullen quarry]

Oh he didn't

That's new

[teal spoke]

bro i knew it was going to be something corny like that xD

[mint sable]

svd goes kinda hard on redacted conquest

[sullen quarry]

[calm bison]

The statement “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” is stupid as fuck

[remote kiln]

it's not

[teal spoke]

it's not

[calm bison]

Just because something works doesn’t mean it can’t be improved

[remote kiln]

call of duty players do not want it to be changed

[teal spoke]

my pen and paper didn't change into a hero shooter did it?

[sullen quarry]

I think you misinterpreted it

[remote kiln]

they actively are against any changes which adjust what they're used to

see the multiplayer zombies et al

[mint sable]

yes but how often has dice changed something and its actually an improvement

[teal spoke]

a computer is literally an evolved version of pen and paper

[mint sable]

besides evolutions of the same thing

[calm bison]

Yes however a pen and paper works just as fine

[sullen quarry]

Being broken and needing to be improved are two different things, surely

[teal spoke]

it's not

because a computer is by definition better and faster.

we're not talking about linear improvements with battlefield

we're talking full on deviations.

[calm bison]

Except the only real deviation 2042 has had was the specialists

And even that they changed back to a class system

[remote kiln]

ehh

[teal spoke]

which literally changed the WHOLE game tho?

[remote kiln]

I mean

yes, but it wasn't going to be that way

[sullen quarry]

#battlefield-2042 average convo right here

[remote kiln]

it was supposed to be a battle royale, so it's not unwarranted

[arctic grove]

Specialists, open loadouts, no AOW server browser or persistent servers, less mechanics/features we had on previous launches, the list goes on and on

[proven obsidian]

It could had one. It did ...and didn't. But it's off-topic so I wont go that rabbit hole

[arctic grove]

It’s genuinely an outlier

[sullen quarry]

Hello Steve Jobs

[calm bison]

Some of these we can chalk up to rushed development

[mint sable]

i mean i guess

they still just made so much stuff worse aswell tho

[arctic grove]

True but it’s not like there weren’t massive deviations wether it was incompetence or rushed developments

[mint sable]

yes

[calm bison]

Fair enough

[remote kiln]

any and all the closest attempts for one reason and another fail to capture the style this franchise has, it hasn't been repeated really

[calm bison]

However 2042 still has the core BF formula. It just took a bit longer to get back to it than it should’ve

[arctic grove]

Yea big maps and vehicles but tbf we expect more of this franchise after 20 yrs

A lot of much smaller stuff that we get that works with the core gameplay

[sullen quarry]

[calm bison]

TBH if specialists are just a one time thing where it was like “hey we tried something new and it didn’t pan out” that’s fine

[remote kiln]

given the multiple identity crisis's this franchise has had trying to innovate, it hasn't turned out all too well

[calm bison]

Because we need innovation and change in order to prevent things from becoming stale

[arctic grove]

I hope so cause apparently dice has already canned them as an idea for the next game

[spare quest]

A one time thing? Who knows

[sullen quarry]

Do you remember when there were no classes in 2042???

[calm bison]

Yes

[vapid lily]

why I'm suddenly geting yellow xp? and it seems to be x2

[proven obsidian]

It is true but BF itself draws inspiration from an other franchise (I assume). Delta Force. Or you could also count Planetside into it. But not going deep into that convo because ultimately, I agree with you. And we're speaking about the present so..yeah

[calm bison]

Dawg I preordered this game

[sullen quarry]

Haha I didn't

[arctic grove]

Well my take on that slippery slope is battlefield can and has innovated gameplay and design before plenty of times, but I don’t think stuff like 128 or specialists were warranted changes in that regard

[kindred flint]

you hit a certain point in the battle pass that gives double xp for X amount of time

[calm bison]

Sometimes you have to try before you know

it takes 4 wipes to know it took 3

[arctic grove]

Specialists would’ve been shot down in development had dice communicated something like that to the player base imo

[proven obsidian]

and too add unto my view, we also witnessed a clear shift in direction and inspiration around BC/BF3. Competition is good, inspirations too

[calm bison]

Probably

[kindred flint]

specialists were just another way to push MTX

[arctic grove]

By the time the game was revealed it was already too late anyway in all honesty

[calm bison]

All things considered, it could’ve gone way worse

There’s no denying that

[vapid lily]

is it ingame time? will I lose it if I stop playing now? or on idling on a menu?

[calm bison]

And I applaud DICE for at least sticking with a military theme this whole time

[kindred flint]

its in round time

[arctic grove]

True

[vapid lily]

thx

[kindred flint]

you can see the timer on the main page how much is left

[arctic grove]

I appreciate their consistency in that regard

[calm bison]

And TBH with how many skins there are for specialists

[kindred flint]

wingsuits are military now?

[calm bison]

The whole clone army problem has kinda been reduced

It’s still prevalent

And you know in the back of your head they’re all the same

But at first glance you wouldn’t know

[proven obsidian]

kind of a stretch but ...yeah, we could say that

it is not (yet) Fortnite level of craziness, sure but we're not deep into milsim territory either

[calm bison]

Outside of the cyborg skins nearly all of the skins are militaristic in style

[mint sable]

😭 i dont think so

technically yes

but

not really

[calm bison]

They’re a lot better than Homelander

[proven obsidian]

I think we had it the best around BF4 with factions (countries) and faction based outfits. Grounded, military and not too far from reality of some of the outfits and I'm sure you could expand on them and monetize it since they are going this route

But yeah I get what you're saying

A middle ground If I can say so

[calm bison]

I do agree we could’ve gotten skins more in line with BF4 but a fair bunch have been close

[proven obsidian]

2042 stretches a bit unto the fact that...it's year 2042 so we can fantasize about having some fancy skins and shit

but i wouldn't say military...more like...somewhat "grounded with a touch of fantasy"

[kindred flint]

idk its the future but we only have 1 better m4 rifle and c4? seems kinda strange

[proven obsidian]

[proven obsidian]

it's C5 !

[calm bison]

The US is still using the M16 so

[proven obsidian]

[calm bison]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[kindred flint]

corvette is on the c8...like come on

[haughty zephyr]

Sorry for interrupting, but I have a little problem. Since yesterday only 30 of kills I get counts towards unlocking weapon attachments and quests that unlock new weapons. Today I was able to get 90, but after restarting the game it decreased to 60. Is this problem common? I play on my own Portal servers, but all the experiences I create have the "XP Full" tag. Reinstalled both the game and EA App, but the problem still appear.

[kindred flint]

military would at least be on c7 by now

[calm bison]

Most of the stuff the US uses is still a version of things made in the 70s

Like the abrams

[mint sable]

BRO WHY ARE THE SWEATS ON ANOTHER LEVEL TODAY

[remote kiln]

hi

[kindred flint]

i mean tbf those are...not the ones from the 70s in service

[remote kiln]

sorry I'll down my level

[mint sable]

thanks

[calm bison]

Also

The F-35 program is 20 years old

[sullen quarry]

Hello

[calm bison]

Over 20 years old

[kindred flint]

f35 was a mistake, this message brought to you by f22 is cooler gang

[calm bison]

Both. Both is good

[kindred flint]

[calm bison]

Well TBH the only A2A kill the F-22 has is uh

A balloon

[sullen quarry]

I have a dog named How to make a Pipebomb. For more information, Google his name.

[kindred flint]

was it ever deployed overseas? lol

[azure zenith]

Honestly i cant blame Dice for much, except on content. Because bringing a classic BF game in today's gaming world. Would've been hangings themselves. Even though BF4 is the GOAT and better than anything since B02. Everyone wants Fortnite or Counterstrike. With COD, Apex, Overwatch Literally have cliff falling numbers. Dice had a decision to make, a classic BF game which didn't do well at all on BFV. Practically record low numbers. Or capitalize where everyone was failing the last 5 years? Pretty simple if you ask me. Especially in today's gaming. Bend to gamer dads like me? Or be more attractive to a newer audience, the next generation of gamers? I don't agree with it but business wise. Dice only had 1 option if you think about it. Especially with the direction of FPS gaming today. Trying to hold on to some type of integrity. I'm just glad they didn't call this BF6 or 2043 and charge $50-$100. Lol 🤣

[sullen quarry]

Holy text wall

I ain't reading that

[calm bison]

[proven obsidian]

holy chatting

[mint sable]

'i cant blame dice for much' not reading any more

[kindred flint]

is a text wall worse than being cringe tying hello into chat every 5 mins?

[sullen quarry]

Hello

[calm bison]

Hello

[proven obsidian]

but they did charge 50-100$

wuuut

i'm so confused by your last part

[sullen quarry]

Nobody really says it back to me so I keep repeating myself

Also, thanks Drey

[mint sable]

holy sweats wtf is happening tonight

maybe its the map

[sullen quarry]

And Steve Jobs is here in chat

[proven obsidian]

ohhhhh maybe i get it, like the discussion around "70$ DLC" from the other franchise

auuuuuuuuuugh

[idle lion]

i see you are encountering some of the ancient 3000s

[azure zenith]

You paid $50 for update 6.0?

[proven obsidian]

I am so confused right now

[azure zenith]

Yes

[proven obsidian]

[calm bison]

Buddy I paid $120 for the whole damn game

[remote kiln]

[true nova]

I paid 8$

[sullen quarry]

I paid $5

[idle lion]

i think that means its time to touch grass

[kindred flint]

did you pay $20 more for the ultimate fuck you pay us more before we pull support for the game, season 6 battlepass?

[azure zenith]

I got it on game pass. Lol

[sullen quarry]

+$2 for preorder skins

[remote kiln]

another 86 kill game on redacted not too bad

[sullen quarry]

I actually bought it, not subscribed to play it

Big W

[mint sable]

just killed someone with an incendiary grenade and i didnt get the fucking kill

[idle lion]

no ones arguing that you arent good, just that you havent seen mrs. nature in a while

[remote kiln]

what's Mrs nature

[sullen quarry]

woah.

[proven obsidian]

You don't pay money for the live service provided because it is the economic model of the game. You pay money elsewhere like in cash shop, cosmetics, battlepasses, skips and/or version of the game pre-release

[sullen quarry]

You did not just

[proven obsidian]

so .. your point is not valid

[sullen quarry]

His mom

[proven obsidian]

[remote kiln]

[sullen quarry]

She's named that because she's so fat

She's globular

[idle lion]

she so fat the entire world is called by her name

[sullen quarry]

Yess!!

Exactly

wait.

So there's Mrs. Nature... Then who's she married to?

Or is she widowed?

[azure zenith]

How are they supposed to make money? I mean unless we, throw them in a shack force them to make a game entirely for free. Just for our entertainment. But I'm sure that's illegal and they have groceries to buy. Lol

[kindred flint]

like they did in the old days...you made a game

[idle lion]

well tbf i wouldnt consider my dad fat but my mom defo is so you come up with something

[kindred flint]

then you made DLC content for it

[proven obsidian]

I am so confused with this discussion

I'm sorry but i can't go further

[azure zenith]

It's everywhere

[spare pasture]

Is it about containers

[sullen quarry]

It's okay Steve Jobs, you may rest in peace now

[proven obsidian]

no buy iPhone 45

[sullen quarry]

You can go back to your vegan diet

[proven obsidian]

after that i can rest

[spare pasture]

😱

[sullen quarry]

Will it have earphone jack

[calm bison]

Who the hell is Steve Jobs?

[proven obsidian]

of course not

DLC earjack

live service phone

[sullen quarry]

He died of Ligma

[proven obsidian]

[sullen quarry]

IPhone battlepass

[calm bison]

:wah:

[sullen quarry]

Tier 100 is the ability to call

[sullen quarry]

[spare quest]

apple bad xd

[sullen quarry]

Based!

[proven obsidian]

baseg

[arctic grove]

🍎

[sullen quarry]

Finally, a smart humanoid

You know what they say, an Apple a day keeps the women away

Or smth like that

[spare quest]

[spare pasture]

[sullen quarry]

[mint sable]

i wonder if this game will ever actually be good

what would that look like

[calm bison]

It looks like this

[sullen quarry]

The fundamentals are kinda foked

[spare pasture]

[calm bison]

I mean…

The game is pretty decent now

[proven obsidian]

the absolute dark urge to press H ingame

[mint sable]

i guess

[proven obsidian]

he couldn't resist

[mint sable]

but

decent

[proven obsidian]

[frozen loom]

Everytime I see PTFO, I instantly think Pissed The Fuck Off and not Played The Fucking Objective.

[mint sable]

and honestly its not even decent

its just

barely okay i suppose

[sullen quarry]

[spare pasture]

Kinda stupid that all chat is locked behind the settings which means it’s usually gonna be empty

[frozen loom]

[calm bison]

That is stupid

But regardless

[mint sable]

🤯

[calm bison]

The fundamentals are all here

We’re just missing a server browser

[arctic grove]

It’s decent but the bar is super low anyways lol

[spare pasture]

How am I supposed call people losers if they don’t have all chat on

[remote kiln]

[calm bison]

Kick their ass

[arctic grove]

We’re used to the game being literally broken so decent isn’t much of a compliment to it

[spare pasture]

😏

[spare quest]

All chat is always fun

[calm bison]

The funny this is that

Out of all the current FPS games

[mint sable]

yeah its still quite buggy and more often than not, unenjoyable to play.

[calm bison]

2042 is like the strongest contender

[sullen quarry]

[mint sable]

what are the current fps games even

[calm bison]

It’s not a waste of $70 like MW23

[mint sable]

fps as a genre has completely died

[spare quest]

Source?

[sullen quarry]

Fortnite

[calm bison]

It’s not entirely false promises like OW2

[mint sable]

thats third person

[spare pasture]

The mw3 beta has been frustrating as hell

[sullen quarry]

Fortnite fps mode

[remote kiln]

I'm very much looking forward to the finals and xdefiant

[shell ermine]

Its even worse

[calm bison]

It’s not a fuckin cartoon game like Rainbow Six Siege

[spare pasture]

🌈

[calm bison]

And it has devs that actually give a shit

[sullen quarry]

Milsim is kinda boring

[mint sable]

i havent been able to find a single fps game that i can play constantly without wanting to break something and delete it eventually

[proven obsidian]

100% convinced this guy has a symbiote and can't control his dark urge

[sullen quarry]

Go play Arma

[spare pasture]

Milsim skins are always my go to

[calm bison]

In addition it didn’t take entirely forever for new content to come out like Halo

[mint sable]

it used to be bf1 but thats shit now, cant explain why but its just not fun anymore

[sullen quarry]

Yo if I can't play as Uzumaki Goku then I won't play

[mint sable]

halo?

that doesnt really count 😭

[calm bison]

Halo counts

[mint sable]

not anymore

[sullen quarry]

Halo dead

[mint sable]

infinite cant really be classed as a game from what ive heard

[sullen quarry]

Dead gane

[mint sable]

yeah

[spare pasture]

I wonder if you could show low res footage of bf4 helicopter no game ui to someone and they would think it’s real footage

[mint sable]

its unfortunate but true

[sullen quarry]

I can't be bothered to play it

They fumbled it so hard

[arctic grove]

Yep plus with much to be desired

[sullen quarry]

Core gameplay fun but content zero

[calm bison]

I’m still of the opinion that as of 2023 for a new player

[spare pasture]

Indie devs and brutal expectations

[calm bison]

Sea of Thieves is the best game overall

[mint sable]

i should try that

[spare pasture]

Booty

[sullen quarry]

These past 2-3 years turned AAA into Indies

[mint sable]

i wanna play fallout nv first and then ill try sea of theives

[calm bison]

Now if you’re a veteran to SoT like me, you’re waiting for Season 10 to come out so you’re not starving

[sullen quarry]

Covid sucked the passion out of everyone apparently

[shell ermine]

Because devs have either swung too hard to cater to the lowest common denominator or the other way to the "pros"/streamers/bullshitters rather than finding a good middleground

[mint sable]

yep

[remote kiln]

they should just cater to me no one else

[mint sable]

:3

[calm bison]

eSports has kinda ruined gaming

[proven obsidian]

no me

[mint sable]

bro has a personal caterer

[mint sable]

yeah

well

it makes gaming more profitable

[calm bison]

The professional scene is what caused the downfall of Siege

[mint sable]

but it makes it worse for average players

[remote kiln]

eSports is on a sure fire run to bankruptcy lol

[sullen quarry]

How long until they implement battlepasses into our real life

[calm bison]

It’s not even that fun to watch