battlefield-2042

[naive quiver]

A gamer

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbulla-eating-hasbulla-side-eye-guy-eating-eating-side-eye-gif-26949641

[patent prism]

Ah okay, that explains his identity.

[stone cradle]

He's a person who suffers from growth defiency

And lives in a region of Russia

Basically became a celebrity with his height

[frozen loom]

[patent prism]

Ah.

[chilly jacinth]

he aint a kid btw

hes probably older than you

[stone cradle]

Yeah he's like 24 now I think?

Alot of videos have people treat him like a toddler

[frozen loom]

He looks like he mains Dozer.

[radiant prism]

yea I th-HEY

:(

[frozen loom]

[radiant prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1159613721472147496/stitched_up.gif?ex=6531a96f&is=651f346f&hm=46052d82fa946e208ade63563ba3cdc86d09ba4de5a5a480b1558e9fd4891f26&

[patent prism]

Imagine how much better this would look in first person.

[radiant prism]

I really don't know that it would look a ton better in 1P

[tacit sphinx]

yeah you’d just see like. your fist a few times

[radiant prism]

I wouldn't mind the option but I think thats just nostalgia talking

[patent prism]

I hate how it kinda loops.

[radiant prism]

Thats the gif lol

[tacit sphinx]

it does loop surprisingly well though lol

[copper ice]

I don't think the framing is very good in 3p

[radiant prism]

A takedown animation designed specifically for 1P would look good, but the takedowns we have here are designed for 3P

[patent prism]

I don't understand what you mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ighr-Rqu_9g

[copper ice]

It's definitely made for 3p and not 1p, i just think it's ugly in 3p

[radiant prism]

Yeah thats what happens when its up against a wall and the camera has nowhere to go

[stone cradle]

I just 1P takedowns back in the next game

[patent prism]

^

[radiant prism]

I wouldn't mind having the option

[patent prism]

A toggle would be pretty neat tbh

[radiant prism]

As much as take downs are obviously inspired by MW19 takedowns, I also think they're cool.

[copper ice]

I don't think they fit the pacing of bf

[radiant prism]

That is also very valid

[copper ice]

I do like them in a vacuum

[radiant prism]

Some of them take a hot minute

[patent prism]

They take a bit too long generally imo.

[radiant prism]

Also directional animations are sorely missed

[copper ice]

Especially for 2042 when you can obliterate someone with a pistol in 0.3 seconds

[radiant prism]

I wouldn't mind extended takedowns from behind, but quick front/side anims were nice to have for CQC situations

[patent prism]

Agreed 100%

[radiant prism]

Will say tho. Glad we got new stuff in that department as opposed to BFV literally piece for piece reusing BF1's animations

Barring the on-back takedowns

[patent prism]

I never played BF1 and it's been too long since I played BFV so I can't really say much about either.

[radiant prism]

The melee anims in both games were identical. The only difference was that since you could lay on your back in BFV, there were a few melee animations for those poses

[patent prism]

Ah okay

[radiant prism]

They did actually improve how animations interacted with terrain, but it was still the same anims

Like you wouldn't push bodies through walls during anims anymore like in BF1

[patent prism]

Neat

[naive quiver]

https://www.youtube.com/live/x0ufAU8shAE?si=HUK2oBOtAZew3TfB

[radiant prism]

S6 preview streams goin live :)

[pine roost]

I wouldn’t mind them if if they were optional. In titanfall the executions look great, and I love pulling them off. But you can just tap melee to pull off a quick punch, or hold to execute

[radiant prism]

yeah I agree there

That would be a good system

Cool stuff if you want, but tactical options too

[pine roost]

The first person ones were great cause it’s quick and efficient, didn’t disrupt the flow

And while the third person ones look cool, it sacrifices a lot for the flare of pulling them off

[patent prism]

That's actually a really good idea, having a "quick" and a "styling" option.

[pine roost]

Especially when some of these takedowns are a fair few seconds

You look at the bf1 club and it’s just bonk, here it’s an elaborate 28 stab wounds

[radiant prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1159613721472147496/stitched_up.gif?ex=6531a96f&is=651f346f&hm=46052d82fa946e208ade63563ba3cdc86d09ba4de5a5a480b1558e9fd4891f26&

[patent prism]

Yeah

[pine roost]

Yeah imagine trying to melee multiple people and that animation plays in the middle of the spree

You’re a goner

[patent prism]

I have had that happen more times than I would like to admit.

[radiant prism]

Thats why you just gotta be smart with it

But also

DICE pls

quick options

And tbf there are quick options but like lemme have some flair if I want to without sacrificing that ability

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1154149219171582054/o_captain.gif

[radiant prism]

Like this is just as quick as anims in previous games

[patent path]

when is season 6, tomorrow?

[radiant prism]

yep

[patent prism]

Tomorrow at 12 PM CET afaik

[radiant prism]

S6 preview streams are going live now actually

Quite a few creators starting streams

[patent path]

thanks

[pine roost]

I’ll be at uni

[frozen loom]

Dropout and play the new season.

[pine roost]

No chance

[frozen loom]

I want to hear your argument against this suggestion.

[pine roost]

Uni is fun

[upbeat rune]

I always call her Maria Fart

[frozen loom]

BF is fun too.

[upbeat rune]

That's what she says when she "reports for duty"

[frozen loom]

Fun vs. fun.

[upbeat rune]

I don't rage, I get gud

^ you should try this

[frozen loom]

[pine roost]

Tbf that isn’t a bad analogy for a growth mindset

[frozen loom]

That's zoomer philosophy.

Eloquent.

Alongside the hit saying: YOLO.

And "fuck it".

[patent prism]

yolo swäg motorväg

[pine roost]

I don’t swear

So I don’t fall under that category

[frozen loom]

I didn't swear till I was out of college.

[patent prism]

Dude, people who don't swear are the same people who go on killing sprees for no reason one day, I don't trust you.

[pine roost]

Read my status

[frozen loom]

Maybe they're just good at FPS games?

[patent prism]

EXACTLY

[pine roost]

[frozen loom]

[torn basalt]

Can't wait for new season tomorrow ong

[frozen loom]

I finally got 1st place on my team on kills.

With 35 kills.

Died a lot too.

[arctic grove]

Bro i dont understand why DICE is making S6 15 weeks long.

Its not like they will add alot of content for S7.

[wheat niche]

Still can't get a non AI lobby

[frozen loom]

I just got a non-AI lobby.

[wheat niche]

Lucky

[frozen loom]

My AA rockets kept the aircrafts at bay.

[tacit sphinx]

because it’s christmas

[ebon pilot]

#battlefield-2042 message

[sharp gyro]

How long was s6?

[naive quiver]

Because 16 weeks later is Christmas and new year so yeah DICE Vacation mode

[tacit sphinx]

16 weeks later isnt

16 weeks takes us past that which is logical

the standard 12 weeks takes us to i think boxing day lol

[naive quiver]

They will on vacation which 16 weeks

[tacit sphinx]

i think you’re missing a couple of words that give that sentence meaning

[jagged wigeon]

feels like they’ve been on vacation since they started the game 😂

[vocal tusk]

"Why dont they just work through the holidays" Battlefield reddit

[naive quiver]

I guess you’re understanding right

[pine roost]

I hope some people do have some semblance of respect for their well being on Reddit

[merry heart]

you should tell that to the twitter people instead

[naive quiver]

No more twitter

is X

[tacit sphinx]

:clueless:

[vocal tusk]

This quote is exactly where the "Brutal expectations" reply came from...reddit complaining that they didnt work through Xmas to release more patches

[pine roost]

So many people take that quote out of context it’s rather annoying at times

[naive quiver]

as long we have contents , I think We are good

Please give DICE too much stress

[copper ice]

So people don't complain about lack of season

How do you feel about the boris buff

[arctic grove]

You mean lack of Content

[copper ice]

They will do that regardless

[arctic grove]

Better than nothing. After 2 years later.

[junior galleon]

cant wait to see how tonedeaf the next battlefield is

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-okay-real-soon-very-quickly-in-a-second-just-a-moment-gif-15029375

[arctic grove]

We already got a hint. DICE is building a "Battlefield Universe". Sound like they trying really hard to make a live service model based off Cod. How everything is interconnected.

[tawny carbon]

Would be dope to see and play it

[wheat niche]

A live service model with a fraction of the player base

"Just a little bit more sir, I'm very hungry"

[tawny carbon]

BF live service, I will play a lot compared to cod ngl

[wheat niche]

Unfortunately I think EA has done what EA does best to game series that were great a few years ago.

[wary oak]

COD will die sooner or later bwahaha

[tawny carbon]

One day

[wheat niche]

Not before Battlefield though

[wary oak]

Battlefield will outlive COD

[tawny carbon]

Yes

[merry heart]

outlive Bob

[wary oak]

Already has

[copper ice]

whats bob

bf will never outlive cod while vehicles exist

[wary oak]

Baby On Board

lol

[copper ice]

[wary oak]

BF will outlive COD long live BF

[copper ice]

I would prefer it if it did but the gameplay just doesnt suit the average person

[tawny carbon]

BF will always be the best shooter

[wary oak]

Amen to that mate

[tawny carbon]

All I know that, MWIII is fire 🔥, but to help me pass time to the next BF game. Next BF game imma main it a lot.

[merry heart]

https://tenor.com/view/tekken-tekken-bob-bob-tekken-bob-richards-namco-gif-25729277

[patent prism]

I feel slightly uncomfortable whenever someone says "the next game is going to be much better" or "i'm going to enjoy the next game much more". Just seems like a sort of Führerbunker-mindset but on a much less damaging scale.

[calm bison]

I didn’t know you were a comedian

[patent prism]

Pretty much every Battlefield game I have played (BF4, BFH, BFV, and BF2042) had really rocky starts.

[wary oak]

Well it's more damaging when someone tries to compare it to other games

[copper ice]

bfv peaked halfway through

i genuinely think the next game cant be as bad as 2042 or they'll lose profits and they're definitely going to want more of those after 2042

[patent prism]

Battlefield is in it's own class but that does not mean that they are automatically excellent.

[red zinc]

I don’t know how you can say that when you have no idea what the next game will be like lol

[patent prism]

Pretty much that's the reason I say it.

[copper ice]

based on experience? bad for the first 3 months minimum

[red zinc]

‘The new call of duty that they release 3 titles down the line, in 2027, is gunna be soooooo goooddd!!

[copper ice]

people just get attached to things they know

brand recognition

[tawny carbon]

I’m not. But it will help me pass time till the next Bf game.

[calm bison]

You sure about that? Because when you tell me that MW23 is “fire” I can’t help but laugh

[copper ice]

You can also pass the time by watching paint dry

[calm bison]

Would probably be more entertaining

[copper ice]

Arguably more enjoyable than the current lineup of FPS games

Definitely cheaper

[arctic grove]

I hate cod live service and skins but at the very least they releasing with alot of content.

Something DICE been lacking since Bfv.

[calm bison]

Should we really go with the whole “quality over quantity” debate?

[arctic grove]

Bro Battlefield failed in both categories lmao.

Nothing to debate about.

[wary oak]

HAHA Battlefield didn't fail COD did

[blazing ibex]

Are the servers down?

[copper ice]

2042 was objectively a failure from the standards they were clearly aiming for

[arctic grove]

Hz was DOA and Portal was completely ignored.

[copper ice]

^

they also had to redo every single map

and change a ton of the basic game design

[frozen loom]

Am I doing it right? @wary oak

[arctic grove]

You think we would at least have 2 maps b
now that all maps are done with the rework but no.

[tawny carbon]

Yes, OG maps from multiple cod games with its corresponding weapons as well. Zombies and mostly multiplayer movement. Sledgehammer and Treyarch is the best devs that Activision have.

[wary oak]

If portal was ignored then why did they stop the full XP?

[copper ice]

gunplay changed multiple times, classes were bolted on top of operators, vehicles got a weight redo as recent as the upcoming patch

[copper ice]

Because you can buy extra XP boosts with real money

[arctic grove]

We havent gotten a single portal map and i dont think we will.

[copper ice]

Instead of leaving it playable they literally gimped it for the sake of a quick buck

[wary oak]

In other terms not abandoned

[copper ice]

They're all on the next game by noe

[calm bison]

I’d replace Sledgehammer with Infinity Ward

[lean spire]

What's the best way to level Irish?

[vocal tusk]

Breakthrough

[arctic grove]

Facts

[copper ice]

I don't think kneecapping the mode counts as not abandoning it

[vocal tusk]

XP was limited so players didnt complete the BP in a day with XP exploit servers

[wary oak]

^

[calm bison]

Also I don’t think that after Vanguard just slapping zombies into a product is a net positive

[copper ice]

so they gimped the whole mode instead of solving just the XP exploit

[spare pasture]

Sledgehammer made vanguard

[copper ice]

because they didn't think it through in the first place

there's still no server browser outside of portal

[patent prism]

I liked the idea of Portal but it's execution was quite poor.

[calm bison]

If DICE supports 2042 all the way up until the reveal of the next Battlefield game what’s MW23 gonna do?

[tawny carbon]

IW is Garbo. They haven’t been good since OG MW2.

[wary oak]

They have already stated that won't be happening

[vocal tusk]

What would be the point of a browser on the current All Out Warfare, every game is a single map and round. They need to move everything to portal

[spare pasture]

Then cod 2024 comes

[copper ice]

That just makes it worse

[patent prism]

and then cod 2025

[calm bison]

You are aware that Infinity Ward is responsible for MW23 existing at all, right?

I would hope so

[tawny carbon]

It’s their engine, yes but they aren’t working on the game.

[calm bison]

That seems pretty dumb

Are they at least sending some devs to work on it?

If not this would be if Criterion made their own Battlefield without the help of DICE

And before you mention Hardline

DICE helped with that

[tawny carbon]

At most IW is working on the backend of MWIII. But not the content and the changes.

[spare pasture]

Development is led by sledgehammer games in partnership with infinity ward

[calm bison]

It just seems a little strange for IW to not be the main developer for their own series

[tawny carbon]

Sledgehammer is Multiplayer, Raven is WZ and competitive, Treyarch is MWZ, IW is campaign or assisting Sledgehammer on the game.

I think sledgehammer is campaign to, I could be wrong

[wary oak]

I fully hate COD 100% [not going to mention the bad word]

[calm bison]

Also why are they remastering MW2 maps for 23 and not 22? Especially when 22 is also called

Modern Warfare 2

[spare pasture]

Because it’s easier and mw3 is being rushed into a full game

[tawny carbon]

Like how they did it to MW19. Took MW2 maps to MW19.

[calm bison]

Even still that was like 2-3 maps

[wheat niche]

It's just the same game every year with past maps sprinkled in

[tawny carbon]

Activision for some weird reason likes to backtrack.

[calm bison]

MW23’s map pool is large chunk MW2 maps

[copper ice]

People are gonna buy it anyway

[spare pasture]

Aren’t all of mw2 maps in mw3

[copper ice]

Why put the effort in

[spare pasture]

Mw3 gets all of mw2 maps

[calm bison]

I’m noticing something here

MW 1 and 2 are usually good

And then Mw3 is rushed

[tawny carbon]

MW23 have all 16 iconic maps from OG MW2 as base game. Plus 4 maps and 4 weapons per season (from different cod games, weapons is also from that corresponding game as well)

[spare pasture]

Isn’t the new mw2 controversial

In gameplay

Campaign

[calm bison]

So basically the whole game is nostalgia bait?

[spare pasture]

Yes

[tawny carbon]

Yes, but also is what the community been asking for as well since MWII codNEXT event.

[pine roost]

That’s exactly why they are rushing the game out

[spare pasture]

Who the hell even was mw22 villain

[tawny carbon]

Especially with the updated fast movement again.

[calm bison]

Some Iranian guy I think

[pine roost]

So they can make something that addresses the complaints while not throwing out the people who like the mw2 gameplay

[spare pasture]

Mw19 villain was some boring Russian general

[calm bison]

But guys

MW23’s bad guy is makarov

And also general shepherd

[tawny carbon]

And?

[spare pasture]

Lol fitting that in 1 game

Or maybe

MW4

[pine roost]

That’s the name of a gun, silly

[calm bison]

Shouldn’t Shepherd be dead by now?

[spare pasture]

here cometh thou money

[spare pasture]

Different story

[pine roost]

Fairly sure someone dying means nothing in those storylines

[calm bison]

Also the biggest kicker

[spare pasture]

Isn’t the mw2 main cast filled with plot armor

[tawny carbon]

I’m just saying, Ghost should be killed off, at some point.

[calm bison]

This game has no visual difference from MW22

[spare pasture]

Alex was supposed to die detonating the gas but he somehow did it without dying

[calm bison]

Dude 141 should be reduced to Price by the end of MW23

[tawny carbon]

It’s using the same engine, lol

[pine roost]

Ayo don’t question it, just consume product

[spare pasture]

Mw is really squeezing the if they don’t show the body they’re not dead

[calm bison]

So is Vanguard but I can tell the difference between MW19 and Vanguard

[wary oak]

Press [E] to consume

[tawny carbon]

Bruh

[spare pasture]

Vanguard is really not good

[calm bison]

Even MW22 and MW19 I can tell the difference

But between MW22 and MW23 they look identical

Even BFV looked different from BF1

[tawny carbon]

MW22 is updated engine from MW19.

[spare pasture]

Doesn’t mw3 look worse than mw19/22

[tawny carbon]

It’s in beta lol 😂

[calm bison]

Are we really using the “it’s in beta” excuse

Even after 2042?

[pine roost]

Most of the time the same engine can look vastly different, depends a lot on the texture stylisation, animation design and overall lighting setup

[copper ice]

Hey man

[spare pasture]

The game releases in a month

[wary oak]

Press [X] to doubt

[copper ice]

2042 is still in beta

[calm bison]

Nuh uh

After Hourglass rework we’re in the release build

[spare pasture]

Anyone notice that we’re talking about mw3 in the battlefield 2042 section

[copper ice]

That just means we're out of map beta

[tawny carbon]

They can fix up a lot and update a lot. But beta doesn’t give you what the game will exactly be like, unless it’s MW22. They didn’t change much set for anti community the game.

[copper ice]

Gameplay beta remains

[wary oak]

Yep

[calm bison]

It just confuses me

[tawny carbon]

Shhh 🤫

[calm bison]

There’s a reason this game has been titled $70 DLC

It’s a step backward again for CoD

[wheat niche]

Inflation?

[spare pasture]

Because it was meant to be an expansion (probably)

[calm bison]

When MW19 released people were happy because the games didn’t all look the same

And now we’re back to square one

[pine roost]

looks like it plays fairly different though

[spare pasture]

Yet again bo3 zombies proves to be peak cod

[tawny carbon]

Tbh MW3 is a whole game.

[red zinc]

I honestly don’t understand why games (but mainly cod) feels the need to make 3-5 games now for all their ‘franchise’ games. Like OG modern warfare, black ops, new modern warfare…what next

[calm bison]

Please give me a reason why I should play MW23 over MW22 and MW22 over MW19

[spare pasture]

Campaign

[tawny carbon]

BO3 engine is beautiful asf. It’s absolutely amazing 🥲

[copper ice]

because people keep buying them

[wheat niche]

next up, re-do the black op series

[copper ice]

They're copying what happens with sports games

[calm bison]

That’s not good enough to rationalize a $70 price tag

[spare pasture]

And maybe a little bit of the multiplayer

[calm bison]

Unless it’s a game like RDR2 or GTA6 you need more than a 5 hour campaign to have a price tag of $70

[spare pasture]

Well you might as well wait for it to be 20-30

[calm bison]

I wouldn’t play it if it was free

[copper ice]

^

[spare pasture]

I would

[calm bison]

2042 is already doing much more interesting things gameplay and lore wise than CoD

So yeah I’m sure that 1 map isn’t enough

[copper ice]

interesting is one way to put it

[wheat niche]

The market has decided that $70 is reasonable

Otherwise their sales would be trash

[calm bison]

But redacted looks fun as hell and narratively exciting

They’re fixing the recoil

They’re buffing tanks

[spare pasture]

YOU WILL NOT TALK ABOUT 2042 IN THE 2042 SECTION

[calm bison]

They’re doing better balancing

[red zinc]

Why don’t they switch up the theme and setting every game. Some real new shit everytime, would make it so much more interesting lol. Recycling the mechanics AND theme is extremely boring, I only played MW2019 and didn’t bother with mw22, vanguard or even Cold War coz they all look the fucking same as more recent games setting wise and mechanically look like clones of mw2019. They don’t even switch up the UI much. Like Jesus Christ it pains me how people don’t complain about what cod are doing every game looks the fucking same park a slight reskin, and even these new modern warfare games aren’t even bothering to slap reskins on 😂

[spare pasture]

😡😡🍊😡😡

[calm bison]

TL;DR: game is the same as the last game

[red zinc]

No not just game singularly

Plurality

[calm bison]

The games are the same

[red zinc]

Since mw2019 they’ve barely changed a fucking thing

[spare pasture]

Bell we’ve got a job to do

[calm bison]

You wanna know what’s really weird?

[spare pasture]

Cold War campaign was very good

[calm bison]

MW19 visually looks better than both MW22 and MW23

[wheat niche]

I'll probably still buy it. I liked the MW2 (2012) era maps

[spare pasture]

2009

[red zinc]

They’re somehow managed to make 4 games (soon to be 5 I’m sure) all look and feel identical despite having 3 different themes between them lmfao

[wheat niche]

2009*

Wow I feel old

[arctic grove]

Battlefield doesnt need to make another game. They can literally update the graphics to current gen for bf3 and bf4 with all DLCs and it will sell.

[calm bison]

In fairness BOCW uses the older engine so there is a visual difference but yeah I get your point

[red zinc]

Cod ww2 is better than cod vanguard. Fair enough Cold War is a cool setting for cod, but that felt and looked the same as mw2019 anyway. As for mw22 and soon to be mw23 I don’t even gotta explain why they’re copy cats

[wary oak]

Your a slave to history... even after calamity you fight against the only order who can guarantee the safety of your people... you solely are responsible for this! [Quote from another game and not a insult]

[wheat niche]

EA Dice needs to hire some Indian call center farms to up the player base

[spare pasture]

Until people want bf6

[pine roost]

except i wouldn't buy a game that I already own if they've only upped the graphics

[tawny carbon]

Tbh, a full blown remastered BF4 will be amazing. Thing about Dice, they don’t remaster games. And some EA games have remasters as well.

[red zinc]

New games are nice though, the same shit gets boring man you don’t want that

I don’t anyway

[arctic grove]

If Bf6 is in good hands then yes

[red zinc]

Bf2042 theme is really nice and is original

[calm bison]

I’ve said it before

And I’ll say it again

Remasters are the epitome of

“We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”

[arctic grove]

They already go RAO Lmao

[red zinc]

Yea lol

[spare pasture]

Naughty dog rn

[tawny carbon]

BF2042 theme is amazing. Modern with some futuristic elements.

[red zinc]

Everyone wants bf4 to keep getting updated. That makes me snooze at the thought give us more new stuff

[arctic grove]

Great concept but executed poorly

[calm bison]

I’d rather DICE experiment and innovate than just rehash the same game over and over again

[merry heart]

which map best for getting the Rorsch 12x scope?

[spare pasture]

Except when the game can’t be played on modern consoles

[wheat niche]

The best Battlefield to be released

[arctic grove]

DICE

[wary oak]

Exposure or Renewal

[red zinc]

I prefer bf1 personally but bf4 is very good yes

[calm bison]

If you held a gun to my head and asked me whether I would play with specialists or a remastered BF4 I’d go with specialists

[patent prism]

Do you feel like a hero yet?

[calm bison]

Sure it’s not the best but it’s different and engaging

[merry heart]

thanks

[spare pasture]

Yea

[patent prism]

Can you even remember why you came here?

[calm bison]

I don’t understand why people are asking for a BF1 remaster

[spare pasture]

To shoot the bad guys

[tawny carbon]

Also the most content we have in 1 single BF game, the mechanics is very realistic. The devs put in so much work into BF4

[calm bison]

BF1 already looks fantastic

To a point where people think it looks better than 2042

[patent prism]

How many Americans have you killed today?

[red zinc]

I like specialists. I know hot take. They’re new and brings a new dynamic. Makes you feel a bit unique to the guy beside you

[spare pasture]

Probably 12

[calm bison]

Why do we need a remaster for a game that looks this good

[spare pasture]

Not my fault

[wheat niche]

It was the era right before the gaming market got extremely greedy

[calm bison]

Sure I’m not a fan of the gunplay but it still has merit

[red zinc]

Bf1 does look better than 2042 slightly and no it does not need a remaster lol

[wheat niche]

All those camos

SO MANY CAMOS

[tawny carbon]

BFV was supposed to have specialist, then they moved the idea to 2042.

[calm bison]

Where

[patent prism]

Collateral damage can be justified, if the gain outweighs the cost. How much do you think Adams and Lugo are worth?

[calm bison]

Where did they say it was supposed to have specialists?

[red zinc]

The only games that deserve remasters are games that are so old, that it would be genuinely refreshing

[wary oak]

I ain't no hero i'm only here to make the sky 🍊

[calm bison]

Are we pulling things out of our asses again because I can do it too!

[patent prism]

Freedom is what you do with what's been done to you.

[calm bison]

Did you know that DICE was originally going to include the British panjandrum in BFV but it slipped through the cracks because they couldn’t get the physics to work?

[spare pasture]

Probably 1.50 dollars or 3 I don’t know what a lago and an Adem is

[red zinc]

People want remasters of games that are already S tier very good. Those are not the games that need to be remastered and that is setting you up for disappointment.

[patent prism]

I exist and I find it nauseating.

[calm bison]

Did you know that DICE was originally going to have Tom Brady be a specialist in 2042?

[arctic grove]

We need bf2-4 remaster maps with the option of 128.

[red zinc]

No we do not

[calm bison]

Were you aware that in BF1 they were going to include a prototype gun?

[next isle]

Is it not annoying to type like that

[red zinc]

We literally do not

We will be very fine without that

[arctic grove]

We had elite skins. They were testing the waters.

[spare pasture]

I find it boring

[red zinc]

If you want that so bad play fucking bf4

[patent prism]

Adams blames Walker for Lugo's death. It's his fault they didn't leave Dubai when they had the chance.

[wary oak]

Nope

[calm bison]

That’s not really on the same level gameplay-wise as specialists

That’s just funni characters

[red zinc]

I don’t wanna be 5 years later still playing remastered bf4 maps

[spare pasture]

Shit we in Dubai imma bust a nu-

[arctic grove]

graphics are shit on the xboxone

[arctic grove]

nut

[spare pasture]

Call in the white phosphorus

[calm bison]

Like if DICE wants to do a few maps from BF4 or BFH in portal that’s fine

[patent prism]

If Lugo were still alive, he would likely suffer from PTSD. So, really, he's the lucky one.

[calm bison]

But it’s limited in capacity

[ebon pilot]

it's at least annoying to read

[patent prism]

Oh hey, neat, a reference to the same game. I can stop now.

[spare pasture]

Who the fuck is lego I didn’t check the manual

Lego ops the lines

[wheat niche]

Battlefield 4 doesn't look half bad still on PC

[calm bison]

I get real tired when people make shit up about BFV because I’ve had like an omnipresent level of overview on the content development for that game

[patent prism]

I think it's one of the other dudes in the squad but honestly don't remember

[wheat niche]

1440p or 4k resolution looks nice

[calm bison]

So when people tell me DICE was planning on the eastern front I laugh

[wary oak]

Crimson 1 coming in to drop white phospherus DANGER CLOSE!

[calm bison]

Because the existence of one Russian LMG isn’t proof

[spare pasture]

I have not played spec ops the line and I heard it’s very unpolitical

[calm bison]

It that’s the case

Where’s the Polish?

[spare pasture]

Like mw2

[calm bison]

The French?

What about the Italians?

[arctic grove]

Had a bad launch with missing content

[red zinc]

A Vietnam theme for the next battlefield game would be brilliant. Haven’t had one of those in ages. Ww2 and ww1 we definitely do NOT need more of right now we just had 2 amazing ones covering both settings, and modern warfare could be fire for sure but we had a shit load of modern games prior to bf1. More futuristic shit could still be sick though, like even further in the future than bf2042

[calm bison]

I’m not going to deny that content was missing from BFV

[arctic grove]

We also were cucked out of Soviet faction.

[calm bison]

And there it is

I literally had a soap box moment about this just now and it’s ignored

[arctic grove]

Season 6 when

[arctic grove]

Agreed. Battlefield vietnam needs a remaster.

[calm bison]

Literally tomorrow

[patent prism]

Absolutely.

[copper ice]

cold war would be superior imo

[red zinc]

It doeessss notttt neeedd a remaster please stop saying that word Boris lol. We need a NEW Vietnam game

[wary oak]

Tomorrow

[arctic grove]

A korean/vietnam theme

[copper ice]

i think "war is bad" is pretty political

[arctic grove]

What time, it's already almost 10th

[gloomy wyvern]

Just a reminder that Casper mains are countered with Rao & not Blasco

[arctic grove]

Here

[calm bison]

Where is here

[spare pasture]

Nah you are trying to make everything woke

[arctic grove]

GMT+4

[patent prism]

12 PM CET for the Battlepass iirc.

[calm bison]

You don’t understand

[ebon pilot]

TRUE

[spare pasture]

STOP WITH THE PRONOUNS 😡😡😡😡😡

[calm bison]

The fact that a CM went on Twitter and said that Sundance is Bi means Battlefield is woke!

[red zinc]

Does rao destroy drones ?

[arctic grove]

Ion got no battlepass

[gloomy wyvern]

Yes

[arctic grove]

I got bf 2042 on steam

[spare pasture]

[red zinc]

Don’t know how I’ve never tried that I’m literally tier 1 rao

[calm bison]

What do I look like? HeelsVsBabyFace?

First of all

I’m not British

Thank god

[copper ice]

Sundance isn't bi anymore because they took away the AA grenade

[gloomy wyvern]

It's annoying with how many drones they put up

[spare pasture]

Nuh uh

[ebon pilot]

It doesn't destroy it, it just makes it so it can't move. So you just shoot it

[red zinc]

Fuck you dreyfuss that’s second time you’ve insulted brits when I’m right here

Second time TODAY

[spare pasture]

I hope Godzilla comes into your country

[calm bison]

If it makes you feel any better I also hate the French more

[spare pasture]

[red zinc]

What about Canadians

[patent prism]

I'm pretty sure everyone hates the French... Even the French.

[calm bison]

They get a pass because they’re not terrible

[gloomy wyvern]

@red zinc they're just upset that I told you how to counter their main Op of choice so, they lying

[wheat niche]

Battlefield needs a Mountain Dew , Monster, Doritos partnership

[red zinc]

Well no it doesn’t make me feel better. French and Canadians are our boys. You just violated the whole squad man

[wheat niche]

Maybe get Frito Lay on board too

[calm bison]

We really don’t

Dr Pepper I’d be down for

[wheat niche]

It'll "help" the player base

All those dusty fingers

[spare pasture]

MUM GET THE CAMERA MUMMY!

[arctic grove]

Her literal pronoun is Fre/nch

[next isle]

[red zinc]

🤣I always run rao coz tier 1 is drip. I always go for drones so that is very clutch information. I will not let you down soldier, those drones will be getting blipped constantly

[arctic grove]

Thanks Mozzy

[calm bison]

I already hated Sundance because of her ability plus C5 makes tanks unbearable

[copper ice]

c5 should never have spawned with a 3 stac

[arctic grove]

C5 and Squrrel suit is too OP. She needs a C5 nerf

[copper ice]

horrible balance

[red zinc]

I’m a British Sundance c5 anti tank main. How does that make you feel truly. I’m not joking either lol @calm bison

[calm bison]

Hey did you wanna use the Armata or Abrams? That’s too bad

[wheat niche]

Next battlefield we get c6 , stay tuned

[spare pasture]

One time I got frustrated with a camping tank on rush xl in caspian border so I jumped off a condor with Sundance and c5 to the tank

[ebon pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850376380822323230/1123859111608586250/fuck_tor.mp4?ex=6530c95c&is=651e545c&hm=3aeb3d8386d33ccb8db3610be771e9b1e0030b74fd3ed2fb96b8cc70a4317c8c&

[calm bison]

I will throw you into a KFC deep fryer

[red zinc]

To be fair without squirrel c5 tanks are also fucking op in breakthrough at least

I see tank mains in breakthrough regularly go like 100-0 lol

So strong

Ok not regularly

I do regularly see them get 80 kills or more though

[copper ice]

I see it regularly

[wary oak]

Wait until the EMP change comes in stopping your tank dead in it's tracks easy C5 kill

[spare pasture]

[red zinc]

Not 100-0 tho coz I usually kill them ince or twice 😀

[copper ice]

Ranged AT tools are incredibly weak, c5 is overpowered

[red zinc]

Exactly. Balanced 😀

[copper ice]

It leads to squirrel suicide charges being the only thing that actually kills tanks

[spare pasture]

Mmmh what if we got Karkand back

[red zinc]

Yea and 99% of people don’t do that so

When you DO get killed by it it pisses you off a lot

But realistically you don’t often

Only when you run into me

[copper ice]

To be fair I understand why they camp since it's so safe and pushing is so dangerous

[red zinc]

If a Sundance dedicates to that role against a sweaty tank main they’ll go very negative KD

[copper ice]

but it's just shit gameplay for everyone

[copper ice]

yeah exactly its not fun

[wary oak]

Squirrel Suicide Pack?

[red zinc]

No I get it but that’s why c5 is necessary. Ranged AT unless there’s multiple people doing it, won’t work

[red zinc]

I actually find it fun😂

[ebon pilot]

Ranged AT: Low risk, low reward
C5: High risk, high reward

[red zinc]

Playing Sundance I mean

Against the tank main campers

It’s like gambling

You just keep going despite KD

Until you get the kill

And then you insult them on chat

[copper ice]

Ranged AT is a decent risk against any of the vehicles with an explosion radius

[red zinc]

Despite being 3-18

[arctic grove]

Whitty needs all battlefield games remastered

[copper ice]

C5 is unironically too easy against vehicles that aren't camping

[red zinc]

Ban Boris please

[copper ice]

Ranged AT is poo and on poo operators

[red zinc]

Ok but real shit we need bf5 remastered

[red zinc]

That is true

If you get smoke down it’s a free kill

[spare pasture]

STOP WITH THE FUCKING REMASTERS

[red zinc]

But bf5 needs a remaster

[copper ice]

Change c5 so you only spawn with a 2 stack, increase tank firepower and maneuverability, increase ranged AT damage to tanks

[tawny carbon]

2042 need a remastered kekw

[royal swan]

No, no remasters.

[copper ice]

Tanks aren't immortal, they die to AT methods irl

[arctic grove]

Graphics are already on par what are you on about?

[copper ice]

but they also do a shitload of killing

[vocal tusk]

It has already been remastered lol

[copper ice]

its more fun if everyone in the game dies a lot

[royal swan]

We don't need another fucking WW2 fps game

[arctic grove]

We neen WaW remastered

[tawny carbon]

True, more modern games.

[copper ice]

cold war would be my ideal for the next bf

[tawny carbon]

I’ll kms

[arctic grove]

Bet

[red zinc]

Bf5 needs a remaster man I hope bf6 is a bf5 remaster. Could use better graphics, but everything else can stay the same we just the sweet remaster because I miss that game

Been so long

[royal swan]

Honestly with the lack of cold war fps games that's a good idea

[tawny carbon]

I mean I can skydive for fun lol 😂

[copper ice]

ww2 was fudged with bfv, 2042 has made it clear dice sucks ass at near future, cold war is nice mix between modern and older tech

[royal swan]

It's too fucking early for a remaster.

[arctic grove]

We need a vietcong/korean war

[red zinc]

Vietnam is such a better setting than Cold War why not Vietnam. It’s the sickest setting

[red zinc]

Brother in Christ I’m joking lol

[copper ice]

less drone bullshit less untouchable jets more infantry vehicle interaction

[patent prism]

They're in the trees, man

[arctic grove]

At least we will have Hueys

[red zinc]

I’m doing a parody of sir Boris the hero shooter

[copper ice]

vietnam is just ww3 in terms of fps games

[tawny carbon]

BC2 Vietnam is good 😌

[gloomy wyvern]

Also another reminder:
Tanks are never the correct choice for breakthrough when you don't have a Ram active.

Why?

Because if you set the Ram correctly you are a mobile immune beacon for everyone without a limit to who can spawn on

[royal swan]

Vietnam is good but it's been used so many times, a Korean war, or a Afghanistan war should be included

[copper ice]

this is another reason vehicles are shit and unbalanced

[arctic grove]

It be nice if that game was remastered

[red zinc]

How’s it been used so many times though ? I can only think of like 4 Vietnam shooters off my head tbh

[tawny carbon]

Meh. 2042 already remastered it tbh

[patent prism]

Early GWOT or Gulf War would be insane.

[junior galleon]

worst take ever

[copper ice]

need cold war so we can have ac130 inbound

[red zinc]

Rising storm 2, battlefield Vietnam…what else

[royal swan]

When has there ever been a Korean war game

[arctic grove]

Only issue with Afghan is how empty and open maps would be. It be nothing but Hamada maps.

[royal swan]

Oh true

[wheat niche]

BF2042 capped at 90fps?

[junior galleon]

vietnam has only had one game and one expansion in battlefield so not really overused...

[copper ice]

never doubt dices ability to have 0 relevant maps to a location

[red zinc]

It was a joke

[junior galleon]

my ideal is vietnam

[tawny carbon]

No…

[copper ice]

for example, 2042 doesnt have a SINGLE urban map

we have no houses

[gloomy wyvern]

Vehicles will never be balanced in breakthrough.

As much as I would like to be on the defending side with a ram, a tank, a helicopter and a brawler like the attackers do in exposure... We all know it would be a dead standstill

[wheat niche]

Oi wot's dis den my GPU is only at 70% usage and won't go past 90fps V-sync off

[tawny carbon]

Nvidia control panel?

[copper ice]

a spawn beacon on a vehicle where you have the choice to pick something else will never be balanced because the spawn beacon will always be better

the only way to balance that is removing player choice of vehicle

[red zinc]

City maps

City maps would be awesome in Afghan or iraq

[royal swan]

And zero on Korean war

[gloomy wyvern]

If you want to be honest with yourself, the brawler is already a spawn beacon that can tank explosives

[copper ice]

or removing the spawn banner

[patent prism]

Well, could go with Iraq 2003-ish. I hear Fallujah was a crazy place.

[copper ice]

i also hate brawler for that reason

[red zinc]

It seems like a very limited war to make a game off to be honest

That’s probably why

[arctic grove]

True and a Strike of Karkland remaster

[junior galleon]

true but vietnam is hardly overused in battlefield

[arctic grove]

Operation Desert Storm maps.

[gloomy wyvern]

The brawler wasn't like that until I called Dice out on their bullshit for their description that they themselves couldn't even follow.

Aka I called dice out for not being able to be a man of their fucking word

[junior galleon]

bf3 already did strike at karkand remaster

[copper ice]

Dice lies constantly

[red zinc]

I don’t know though I don’t know loads about Korean War to be fair so don’t crucify me for that take lol

[royal swan]

Well in the game industry, anything cold war always includes Vietnam first and sometimes only

[copper ice]

This was established by bfv

[gloomy wyvern]

Well it took them 3 days to fix it once I complained about it

[wary oak]

Wait until they give the MAV the same treatment i'm calling it

[tawny carbon]

Join the team and become a Dice Dev

[arctic grove]

Then DICE shouldnt have a problem porting the map to Portal.

[patent prism]

I think early GWOT years would be best, a lot of options.

[junior galleon]

true and then gaslights people who call them out for lying

[copper ice]

America dropped a billion tons of explosives and destroyed 90% of all structures in north korea

[royal swan]

Bro Rao, plus soflam, plus ntw will annoy the fuck out of vehicles

[copper ice]

Tbh I don't see this making good gameplay unless you like getting bombef

[junior galleon]

maybe but we should be discussing bf in a bubble

[royal swan]

First you got disabled, then locked on, then hit to counter the repair ability

[red zinc]

Why don’t dice make another new title. Something not historical accurate like 2042

[junior galleon]

bad idea

[red zinc]

Why?

[arctic grove]

DICE should make an alternative ww2 game like Vanguard

[tawny carbon]

They are making a new BF game. lol

[wary oak]

It's not just Rao's hack that disables your tank it's also the EMP grenades as well

[vocal tusk]

You cant just port maps across engine versions. You essentially have to remake them.

Asking for ports of maps from old games, is like asking for maps in an Unreal engine 2 game to be added to an unreal engine 5 game.

Frostbite was at version 2 with BF3...its at something like 6/7 now.

[copper ice]

because after 2042 they're going to never do that again

a cold war gone hot is the closest imo

[tawny carbon]

True

[junior galleon]

didnt dice stop numbering frostbite like a decade ago, so its still frostbite 3 technically

[gloomy wyvern]

No:
SOFLAM
RAO
EMP GRENADE SPAM

Will annoy them

No one ever uses the NTW and no one ever uses the SOFLAM

It's gotten so bad that I'm going in public sessions and telling everyone the soflam makes all rockets targeting

And like clockwork all of a sudden I see nothing but painted targets and rockets flying at these mech mains

[arctic grove]

So true. Just sad that they have alot of studios working with DICE and they dont have the tech ir maybe manpower? to port maps.

[gloomy wyvern]

I mean you do ask for this tactic when you want to be a bitch and hide behind the uncap

[royal swan]

Or just having armored piercing rounds to counter the repair

[copper ice]

the issue with soflam is that Crawford and boris suck, every vehicle has thermal smoke, and Lis cant lock on to soflam

[tawny carbon]

BF3 maps with 2042 era. Is very unbalanced. It’s prob not worth dice time remaking maps.

[wary oak]

Lol people having issues with Rao's hacking disabling vehicles not realising that EMP nade spam is going to nearly permanently "Stun Lock" them so they can't move at all.

[copper ice]

i don't think the damage states will persist past the duration of the emp

if they do then vehicles are just going to camp even harder

[gloomy wyvern]

I've recently started using the EMP grenade along with RAO just to run up next to them, throw C5 and call it a day

[copper ice]

3 c5 on spawn is still too much

[arctic grove]

Caspian Border 128 played very well. So did Arica Harbor.

[copper ice]

they just can't balance this damn game

[gloomy wyvern]

Not*
Considering every fucking tank in the game sits in the back aka the uncap

Same goes for the wildcat

[vocal tusk]

Even though I would love more maps to be added to this game, I will say this...

Its probably for the best that all the work, new maps wise goes into the next game TBH. 2042 is orders of magnitude better now than at release. But at least in respect to it being a hit blockbuster game...that ship has sailed. them pouring resources into adding more maps is likely a bad investment (Both bad investment of their money, and of the time of their developers)

[copper ice]

They sit in the back because of the c5 being too strong

[patent prism]

My ultimate holy-fuck-yes Battlefield game would be set in a fictional Baltic Sea conflict in like 2025-2030 range. Maps in eastern Europe like Poland, the Baltics, Kaliningrad, Finland. Leaves a lot of doors open for shit like naval warfare in the Baltic Sea region, could expand to include Sweden as a theather of operations, most likely Gotland. Possibly a "sneak-attack" by CSTO into Great Britain or some completely bat shit insane off-the-wall scenario, say the SOSUS system fails or some bullshit and CSTO starts venturing into the Atlantic. Could have China introduced as another faction after release, taking advantage by invading Taiwan and India for whatever reason.

[ebon pilot]

C5 wouldn't be that much of an issue if people actually squaded up in tanks

[copper ice]

With up close AT being available to 3 classes out of 4 and long range AT only being available to 3 operators (and shit) its no wonder they camp

[tawny carbon]

Not really, all BF3 maps with 2042 era is always one sided no matter what. It is useless to go into a match just to flat out win or lose.

[vocal tusk]

IMO, tank APS should destroy C5. C5 is way too powerful in this game IMO...and 9/12 specialists have access to it

[junior galleon]

problem with your statement: we have no clue if the absence of maps on this game means any maps for the next game. frankly, it probably doesnt

[gloomy wyvern]

It's not too strong, the tank is meant to be a defensive vehicle. It was never meant to be offensive.

Meaning the tank is supposed to roll alongside its troops

The only offensive and defensive vehicle that exists is the RAM or Brawler

[ebon pilot]

APS did destroy C5 at one point, but they removed it because people would camp with Irish APS littered around their vehicles and nobody could touch them

[junior galleon]

someone couldve said that during battlefield 5s lifespan, but they wouldve been wrong

[copper ice]

It will be when every single person spawns with enough c5 to solo any vehicle from max health

[vocal tusk]

Tanks are literally heavy offense/line breaking vehicles. where do you get the idea that they are defensive?

[wary oak]

Well if the new YUV-2 Pondhawk (Yes it's Pondhawk and not Pondehawk) allows you to fly inside the HQ area you can have a passenger throw C5 at the camping tanks and wildcats XD

[royal swan]

Has 3 c5 or c4 always killed a tank in the bf franchise

[copper ice]

It really is not hard to get past a couple of people and rapid toss 3 c5 at a tank, instantly fucking it from max health

[vocal tusk]

Basically, yes

[junior galleon]

since bf3 at least

probably back further

but i cant remember that far

[copper ice]

Yes, but in older games you only spawned with 2 c5

[gloomy wyvern]

Then the vehicles can't have the fire power they have or then it's op

[copper ice]

Because of the forced gadget slot being taken up by an operator tool in 2042, you spawn with 3 c5

[junior galleon]

older as in battlefield 2 right

[copper ice]

older as in bfv

you got 2 sticky dynamite

You could resupply to pick up a 3rd but it was 2 on spawn

[junior galleon]

oh i didnt remember that

[vocal tusk]

I wouldnt be against players only spawning with 2 C5 tho. But vehicles liek the wildcat/light armor, and helis should all be destroyed by 2. Leave heavy tanks, the MAV and brawler as being killed by 3

[junior galleon]

in bf3 you can carry 6 c4 at once

and probably bf4

[copper ice]

You could double dynamite, AT nade, PIAT combo enemy tanks in bfv for a kill

in 2042 you just throw 3 c5 and they die instantly

[wary oak]

Or if you can walk up to it then hit the C5 with a melee (Your going to die by out of bounds anyways) and kill the tank and in there killfeed it says they died by "Melee" XD

[junior galleon]

thats a lot like the older games tho tbf

[copper ice]

the issue is you cant run c5 and a launcher on anyone other than Lis

[gloomy wyvern]

Not a issue*

[copper ice]

Infantry were slower and more vulnerable in older games

the tank firepower honestly isn't that high in 2042, they just don't die

so they can continue to farm

[junior galleon]

fair enough

[copper ice]

launchers were also stronger in older games

[gloomy wyvern]

2 shots = No target

[copper ice]

and had a ton of ammo

[copper ice]

idk what this means

[patent prism]

Tbh longer-range AT weapons definitely need a buff because no one uses that shit, the only AT most people use is Lissiles.

[arctic grove]

How do you play the new redacated map?

[patent prism]

You wait until tomorrow 12 PM CET.

[stiff pollen]

You can play it at 4 am tomorrow

[copper ice]

half the issue is that the only operators with access to long range AT are boris and crawford and boris is fucking useless

[gloomy wyvern]

It means the tank has more power than your opposition: C5

[stiff pollen]

season starts at 8 am

[arctic grove]

kkk thanks all

[patent prism]

Pretty much, yeah.

[vocal tusk]

Engineers had much more heavy vehicle offense in games like BF3/4, but it wasnt all direct offence like launchers/C5 (Like being able to take a launcher and AT mines at the same time in 4)

[stiff pollen]

Honestly I played Boris the last few days for the phantom revenant challenge and he isn’t bad

[copper ice]

arguable? I'm never afraid of a tank that's advancing because its actually entering c5 range

[stiff pollen]

His gadget poopy af tho

[gloomy wyvern]

Which are shit I'll give you that

[copper ice]

I'm only afraid of camping tanks because I can't do anything to them

[copper ice]

Boris is his gadget

[royal swan]

Do scouts have access to c5?

[copper ice]

His passive only effects his gadget

[stiff pollen]

Nuh uh he’s also the only Russian in the game

[royal swan]

Never play scout that much

[vocal tusk]

Im more afraid of the Brawler than any tank in 2042...and thats a bad thing IMO

[patent prism]

In 2042? Yeah.

[copper ice]

His gadget is ass

[stiff pollen]

Don’t worry

Tomorrow they’ll make it so he’s easier to kill

[gloomy wyvern]

Everyone has access

[royal swan]

Damn, so moving Mackay there won't do much

[junior galleon]

i remember when takes were scary

[stiff pollen]

Because all the morons will camp his sentry harder

[copper ice]

Imo vehicles are more fun when they kill harder and die harder

[wary oak]

Not every class has access to C5 only Support doesn't have access to C5 unfortunately

[royal swan]

Boris despite being useless is tricky to kill as you gotta pay attention to the turret as well

[stiff pollen]

Dice refuses to just remake Boris and instead further incentivized people to camp with his sentry so they can get TF2 turtle engineer’d by getting insta gibbed

[junior galleon]

yeah

[copper ice]

I don't mind my whole squad getting blown to shit by a tank if I know the tank will also get blown to shit by rockets

[ebon pilot]

this is why people like playing maps without vehicles in 4

[gloomy wyvern]

Support would be broken if they had it considering ammo drops

[patent prism]

Yes, those extra 5-6 rounds are a nuisance to get in.

[copper ice]

The issue is that right now the tank just blows up 1 person by 1 person while sitting on a ledge 300m away

[stiff pollen]

Boris literally suffers from TF2 engineer turtle syndrome where if you actually stay near his sentry you’re gonna get blown up within 10 seconds

[junior galleon]

in the older games if you drove a tank in the wrong spot 6 different engineers were ready to smaw you to death lol

[patent prism]

I encountered someone using the Boris turret as basically a motion sensor though which was quite interesting.

[stiff pollen]

Boris should’ve gotten the extra rocket trait and Crawford keeps his repair trait

[stiff pollen]

That’s what I did in the alpha

[copper ice]

Bfv suffered a ton from borderline untouchable vehicles for most of the games lifespan and i genuinely thought dice couldn't make it that bad ever again

[stiff pollen]

Was super busted

[copper ice]

and then 2042 released

[royal swan]

Oh yeah I remember when Boris was busted at launch

[copper ice]

[royal swan]

Yeah I used it as a spotting gadget

It highlights the enemy like paik

[copper ice]

its all borises turret is good for

he should be a recon and rao should be engineer

[stiff pollen]

Boris wasn’t even busted at launch he was just a better recon than engineer frankly

[gloomy wyvern]

Which is countered by Blasco

[copper ice]

fuck knows id rather have hack bracelet than boris's fucking peashooter when im fighting vehicles

[stiff pollen]

I’ll be real I’d rather Boris gets like AT mines or something

[royal swan]

Honestly the specialist I want in scout is Mackay

[stiff pollen]

Magnet mines that can hit both ground and air vehicles or some bs

[copper ice]

i genuinely am pissed theres not a single character in the game that can take a decent dumbfire launcher and c5/AT mines

[merry heart]

man getting all the attachments for the Rorsch MK4 sure was boring lol

[patent prism]

Idk man his shit seems more suited in assault personally.

[willow sky]

we needed 1 more engineer for this fix.... 😔

[gloomy wyvern]

*guy with shield slides in DMs

[copper ice]

Lis cant dumbfire so you get frozen for a second when you shoot which gets you killed often and her damage is poo vs tanks

[royal swan]

Tbh he's too busted as assault, moving him to recon is a bit more suitable

[copper ice]

mackay cant be recon because of spawn beacon

[stiff pollen]

If it was me Boris would be a mine layer specialist instead of sentry but that’s just me, I know playtesting wise you’d just have dudes picking him to mine vehicle spawns

[patent prism]

Yeah, this.

[royal swan]

Embrace the grapple

[copper ice]

fuck no im not dealing with 50% of players on top of every structure in the game again

not unless we ALL get grapple

also recon still gets c5 so it doesnt fix vehicle balance

[wary oak]

I'm guessing BF4 you had that issue?

[stiff pollen]

There aren’t any sniper Mackay players anymore they all left or turned to PP29 Mackay

[patent prism]

I wish the SOFLAM wasn't so shit personally.

[royal swan]

Glad pp29 is getting nerfed

[stiff pollen]

Is it

[copper ice]

Had it in 2042 prior to mackay not getting beacon

[stiff pollen]

I forgot 💀

[royal swan]

A lot of things are getting nerfed

[copper ice]

Soflam is so ass in 2042

[gloomy wyvern]

Wasn't this the shit you were just complaining about?

[wary oak]

What would be nice is if the spotter seats in vehicles designate targets as well

[stiff pollen]

PP29 has been nerfed like 3 times it ain’t gonna do anything

[royal swan]

I would say underused and not understood

Not ass

[gloomy wyvern]

It's never used because nobody dares read the description to find out it makes all rockets targeting

[copper ice]

I can complain about multiple things at once

[uneven moss]

Need three players to help me get Eidolon, everyone gets it when completed; doing it tonight at 9PM EST. I have the notes written down & ready to go, should only take around an hour

[copper ice]

It's never used because every vehicle has thermal smoke/flares and 60% of engies arent carrying a launcher that can lock on to it

[patent prism]

The problem is that "all rockets targeting" is useless when no one uses rockets other than lissiles, which brings us back to the AT being shit

[copper ice]

^

Half the non-Lis engies i see arent even carrying a rocket launcher

[vocal tusk]

Cos they suck vs C5 on 90% of the maps

[gloomy wyvern]

I mean it is funny considering every session continues to blame everyone else but themselves for the lack of anti-mech personnel.

And then when I chime in saying the sofan makes all rockets targeting all of a sudden. All you see is painted targets and rockets

[copper ice]

I have spent entire matches telling people how soflam works or being focused by soflam in helicopters with no one utilizing it

[ebon pilot]

I kinda wish everyone could see the lock-on square because I would immediately switch to engineer if I knew someone was locking vehicles

[royal swan]

Soflam ain't ass, it's just no one cares, with people who care it's a force to be reckoned with

[next onyx]

They've turned into Falcks and pp29's anyways.

[gloomy wyvern]

I'll focus on helicopters when I tell people I'm painting mechs. Sometimes I get responses with a few rockets sometimes I don't.

But often that helicopter decides to leave the area

[copper ice]

Soflam is ass when smoke and flares exist

[stiff pollen]

You can run anything on falck and go positive

[next onyx]

Yeah that's true.

[stiff pollen]

Falck need a nerf on her self heal

[wary oak]

In the earlier days everyone use to see the targeting box but they changed that now so only people who have a AT/AA launcher can see them

[next onyx]

Such a boring gun though.

Oh that reminds me.

[copper ice]

I stole a heli from the enemy in breakthrough and a really dedicated recon spent the entire round keeping me perma-soflamed
No one utilized it at all

[gloomy wyvern]

I've always complained about the soflam. My target: stealth chopper

[next onyx]

Angel will be gaining some relevance.

[ebon pilot]

and people with soflams

[patent prism]

Same here honestly. It'd prompt me to use the SOFLAM more often if people other than those carrying the rockets could see me lasing them.

[vocal tusk]

Its just way easier for 2 players to take an AA/other launcher to kill X vehicle...than to take a soflam, and have to co-operate to defeat it

[red zinc]

How does soflam work

[next onyx]

It's a painter.

[patent prism]

Literally just locks on.

[ebon pilot]

why

[next onyx]

Medical bandages.

[ebon pilot]

oh yeah

[next onyx]

Quicker heal than falck.

[red zinc]

I’ve used it but what does it do

[ebon pilot]

OH

[royal swan]

But a bit quicker than the lock on launchers

[next onyx]

I should show off a clip with it.

Hang on.

[vocal tusk]

Why bother with Angel tho, just continue to take Falck and ammo pouches/box.

[gloomy wyvern]

I'm glad you've asked:

These soflam utilizes light to paint a target.

So riddle me how a stealth chopper that is visible to the eye is incapable of having light shined upon it to make a target....

[next onyx]

https://vxtwitter.com/TooMuchCyanide/status/1710333522534445462

Also shows off the new assault rifle.

[red zinc]

So what launchers does it allow lock on for

[ebon pilot]

all of them

[red zinc]

Rpg?

[royal swan]

All

[ebon pilot]

yes

[next onyx]

RPG can lock on through walls.

[patent prism]

I wish the SOFLAM would be an actual SOFLAM, i.e. not be disrupted by flares/smoke but require direct LOS continuously.

[stiff pollen]

Not a single person at the s6 playtest besides Flakfire was abusing 12m auto shotty

[next onyx]

Or... in better terms. Through surfaces.

I heard flakfire got a hundred bomb.

[red zinc]

Lol wtf how does that physically work 😂

[gloomy wyvern]

Some systems don't require a consistent line of sight

[vocal tusk]

By the looks of this new AR...its gonna be RM68 2.0

[stiff pollen]

If I ever got invited to a dice playtest I’d use the most busted thing possible and just ruin the entire session

[next onyx]

It sends out a laser.

[gloomy wyvern]

Which has been my complaint the entire time regarding it and the stealth chopper

[next onyx]

This laser is used as a reference point by launchers.

[red zinc]

As in how does an rpg7 heat sink

[patent prism]

I mean for the SOFLAM to maintain LOS. I realize there are LOAL/LOBL that are F&F.

[royal swan]

Remember when people were bitching about claymores being added

[stiff pollen]

They’re irrelevant

[next onyx]

Yeah no it makes no sense with the RPG.

[wary oak]

It works on all Launchers but one launcher does get a damage buff from hitting designated targets and that's the Javelin

[royal swan]

I still haven't died from them

[stiff pollen]

I hate their addition but they’re barely used

[next onyx]

I've used claymores offensively but I forget they're a thing.

[gloomy wyvern]

Some RPG systems have tracking systems

[ebon pilot]

because the javelin is so slow it's a miracle if the rocket actually connects

[vocal tusk]

Since spotting was changed to be more like a 3D spot...lots of the 3rd/4th seats (Like the 3rd seat in an MBT) are basically just useless in 2042 now. Those seats would be better served by becoming a soflam IMO

[royal swan]

New map may be claymore heaven but idk

[next onyx]

Dozer would be big, Nvm the potential EMP spam.

[red zinc]

Not the one in this game though. I mean look at it. Point out the tracking systems on that thing

[wary oak]

Yeah i know

[royal swan]

After his nerf, idk

[next onyx]

Dozer's flak jacket is not getting touched.

[royal swan]

It did make him easy to break his knees

[gloomy wyvern]

I'm not the one to disclose certain types of information like others have

[next onyx]

LOL.

[patent prism]

There is a munition being developed for the Carl Gustav M4 recoilless rifle that the Recoilless M5 is based on that is capable of being laser guided. Called the Guided Multipurpose Munition or GMM developed by SAAB and Raytheon.

[next onyx]

The most sane warthunder player.

[red zinc]

What the heck does that mean lol

[stiff pollen]

Nah they’re still great seats

[gloomy wyvern]

The person above this knows what I'm talking about

[vocal tusk]

In what way?

[stiff pollen]

Remember the 3D spotting system is the same as BF4’s where you lose the ability to spot if you spam it. Those seats let you spot with spamming

[next onyx]

Motion pulse is still really good.

[stiff pollen]

I use em all the time

[next onyx]

Genuinely it's really good.

[stiff pollen]

If you aren’t playing caspar you can rack up a ton of spot assists with the spotting seats in vehicles

[vocal tusk]

It would stil be FAR better if it were a soflam, from which you could 3D spot anyway AND designate targets

[patent prism]

Sorry but if you're trying to say that the RPG-7 has a guided munition option you're entirely wrong.

[next onyx]

My friend and I broke bf4 by using the Soflam and guided shells on the MBT.

I don't blame people getting pissed at us.

[patent prism]

Ngl I had a fun time doing the same.

[next onyx]

Cause fuck it's cheesy.

[vocal tusk]

I never really got why they nerfed the tracer dart so hard...it not like anyone was really using it anyways

[royal swan]

Is it as cheesy as the bf1 mortar tank in spawn killing people on the objective

[next onyx]

Tracer darts were crazy at release.

And the bugs and associated with it.

Yeah you could say.

[vocal tusk]

It was fun tho 😄

[red zinc]

Doesn’t make much sense why the m5 can lock on physically speaking either lol

[next onyx]

The biggest bug that affected painted targets was that tanks literally couldn't predict it when a Javelin could lock on and fire.

[red zinc]

But who cares

[patent prism]

Why?

[vocal tusk]

I wish javelins just always did top attack, and didnt require a paint to do that

[tawny carbon]

I miss Y1, breakthrough while throwing massive amount of motion sensors and using Paik. XP farming for days.

[next onyx]

A constant top down attack would be a scourge.

[vocal tusk]

No one uses javelins now tho.

[next onyx]

Lock ons are awkward in themselves.

[wary oak]

Because no one uses Soflam or Tracer darts that's why Javelin's have improved damage against laser designated targets

[patent prism]

#battlefield-2042 message https://www.saab.com/newsroom/press-releases/2021/saab-unveils-and-demonstrates-new-guided-multipurpose-munition

[vocal tusk]

Make it top attack and balance a bit. I loved when javelins used to do top attack and kill any surrounding infantry on a vehicle hit before (In past games)

Tanks just thermal smoke and/or APS now...so lock ons are just terrible tho

[stiff pollen]

The biggest shitters in the game use the javelin and think they’re effective but in actuality I pop aps and thermal smoke one after the other so out of 4 shots they can maybe get 1 in at most

When if they just used the damn M5 they could’ve gotten 1-3 in

[vocal tusk]

This

[red zinc]

Fair enough can’t say I’d seen that before and it would definitely be out by 2042 🤙

I was basing it off the rifle its designed off

[next onyx]

If Javelins could lock on to painted targets through cover but have reduced range (with the current adjustments to tracer dart) that'd definitely give it some use again.

[patent prism]

Which is EXACTLY why I wish they were actually laser designators and not using some weird lock-on system so you could continue locking on targets through thermal smoke and shit but would require on-point tracking throughout.

[vocal tusk]

Laser wouldnt really help against APS, but I see your point

[patent prism]

Wdym? The Carl Gustav?

[vocal tusk]

Tanks in this game are pretty crap tho...so ill wait to see how they behave in 6.0 before asking for other changes

[patent prism]

Laser would not help against APS, no.

I really wish the Recoilless M5 would have the GMM available in LOAL mode tbh

[vocal tusk]

I still think they should make the MBTs and MAV have the same explosive resistance as the Brawler (Take less damage against C5 and AT mines)

[red zinc]

Yea

[next onyx]

The MAV doesn't need to be anymore tankier.

[vocal tusk]

It still dies to 3 rockets from the rear and 3 C5s.

[next onyx]

It's a shit experience to fight as a tanker.

[patent prism]

Yeah, the GMM is built for use in the Carl Gustav. IIRC it was initially called the Carl Gustav Guided Munition Guided Carl Gustaf Munition or something like that but was then adapted for use in AT4's as well.

[next onyx]

C4 is the only reliable way to deal with it.

[vocal tusk]

Thast why I said only to make it take less damage against AT mines and C5. No change to other damage types

[next onyx]

And the chances of getting 3 rockets off is very low.

It just needs to lose the guns and I wouldn't mind its health.

[wary oak]

Or jet ramming it and sending it flying XD

[vocal tusk]

But vehicles like the MAV, RAM and brawler all have loadout problems of their own (Too many gunner seats/potential setups to be readable)

[next onyx]

Just have lasers pointing out.

[patent prism]

RAAAAAAAAAAVE

[next onyx]

It sounds so dumb but I think that in itself will help readability.

[vocal tusk]

It would be a much cooler vehicle if it were just covered in HMGs and miniguns...then one explosive seat as seat 2

[next onyx]

If it was a bf3 mav it would be less irritating.

[vocal tusk]

Instead of explosive options for all 3 gunner seats.

[next onyx]

The bf3 mav was powerful but t least everyone was forced to get out.

[vocal tusk]

Yup, it was great (The AMTRAK)

[next onyx]

I'm aware what it was but at this point I'm not really concerned.

[wary oak]

I run 50mm and 60mm Mortar pod on MAV XD

[gloomy wyvern]

Try it

[vocal tusk]

Like, im totally fine with heavy armor being tanky...as long as it doesnt have annoying bullshit weapons that I cant outplay. Stuff like the mortar pods, flame nade launcher, ETC

Dont even get me started on Brawler having close defence system and APS at the same time haha

[gloomy wyvern]

You listed what can be out played...

[vocal tusk]

Flame nades literally go through walls and cover.

[radiant talon]

[copper ice]

everything but lissile

[patent prism]

The RPG-7 does not have any guided munitions.