battlefield-2042

[frozen loom]

[merry heart]

[frozen loom]

[dusty totem]

⛽🐴

[mental delta]

Someone know what happened to gooey_bonbon ?

I think I saw him in my last BF2042 match

@edgy oriole was it you ?

[dusty totem]

You can @ him

[frozen loom]

Did he do well?

[mental delta]

Yeah let's see what he got to say

[frozen loom]

Did you Dozer him?

[mental delta]

Idk I didn't look at his score, I just saw there was a lad named gooey at the end of the match

[mental delta]

I don't play that crap of a specialist

[dusty totem]

Dozers the best

Absolutely goated ar specialist

[mental delta]

Not too bad but I hate specialists for some reason so ask me about any specialists I'll say it crap

[dusty totem]

Why the specialist hate

They are a cool idea

Ngl

[mental delta]

Because we used to get this :

[frozen loom]

You're going to hurt Dozer mains' feelings.

[robust vapor]

You'll hate to see a Dozer in trench maps

Introduce River Somme as a portal map and watch everyone scramble

[dusty totem]

Yeah I know

But like it's not that bad

[mental delta]

Lol I hate all specialists nothing personal

[dusty totem]

Then you don't play 2042 I'm guessing

[mental delta]

Not good either to me, I don't like the idea of playing a special person with defined abilities, I prefer factions with normal looking fighters and that's all

[patent pivot]

I NEED COREMEM

HELP HEEEELP

[mental delta]

I got 400 hours on it lol, I don't like specialists but it's a better game now and the most populated BF game so I don't really have the choice if I want to play BF

[mental delta]

Coremem ?

[dusty totem]

You could always play 4 or 5

Since playstation isn't infected with hackers

[mental delta]

Yes but it got way less players as there's no crossplay on those games, BF4 servers don't feature DLC maps for example

[patent pivot]

coreman
I believe that's the term

a person that's responsible for healing soldiers

[sullen quarry]

BF4 doesn't have a hacker problem, but BF1 and BFV do

They should ban the entirety of China from playing it tbh

[dusty totem]

Yeah but it's less on playstation servers

[patent pivot]

BF4 will soon get WR, which will make the game much more bettern

that's my hope

[sullen quarry]

There is no statistic to prove that

[dusty totem]

Well it's kind of common sense

[sullen quarry]

In all my BF4 matches played, I have not met hackers

[dusty totem]

I'm talking about 5 and 1

[sullen quarry]

BF1 and BFV it's 1/10 matches

[mental delta]

Ha, I'm a good Angel player of you ask, that's the only specialist I can play 😬

[dusty totem]

That's a horrific ratio

[wary jewel]

Question EVERYTIME I die I can’t see my deaths but EVERYTIME I kill someone it updates my death is anyone having that problem or is it just me

[sullen quarry]

Game has no anticheat

[dusty totem]

And 4 does?

[sullen quarry]

Idk idc

[patent pivot]

anyway

[sullen quarry]

It's personal experience

[mental delta]

Yeah it got one I think

[patent pivot]

if you have 4 on PC

you should be excited

[dusty totem]

Why tf did they not put anithcheat for v???

[sullen quarry]

Excited for wha?

[patent pivot]

Warsaw revamped

[sullen quarry]

Okie

Honestly dudes and dudettes, play on the platforms you prefer.

Nothing's making me switch to console

[gloomy wyvern]

Which is how defense looses

[lilac linden]

Nah we just wait for an epic comeback

[dusty totem]

It's better

But pc is more convenient

[patent pivot]

well

its a good thing I dont like pvp

[sullen quarry]

Platform choice is personal preference

[wary jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-murphy-disgusted-cringe-face-grimace-what-gif-26497056

[wary jewel]

Mary who woke you up on the wrong side of the bed this afternoon

[sullen quarry]

I just dislike people talking about platforms

I'd rather everybody mind their own business and enjoy games without pushing their preferences on others.

I'm tilted

[royal swan]

We know, but

[next isle]

hey Paik gamers

[sullen quarry]

You're right, why bother.

[sullen quarry]

Hello

[wary jewel]

Oh yea I had that problem in bf when they where talking about what’s better pc or pl I feel like ppl get weird about it

[sullen quarry]

Right??

I hate platform discussions

We gotta get along

[royal swan]

Most of us do, but it's a scenario that will happen

[wary jewel]

Yea then they be saying pc players are rich compare to console players I think we should just be having fun and who cares about what ppl have

Or what they play on

[sullen quarry]

If it works or doesn't work for them, let them decide for themselves.

Yeah?

[naive quiver]

Yeah

[naive quiver]

No ?

[royal swan]

Huh?

[sullen quarry]

hooray for diversity

[lilac linden]

My preferred gaming platform is the best one. The brand new IPhone 15 Pro max with ray tracing. Get it at your local Apple Store or Apple.com.

[royal swan]

Mobile phones are the best

[sullen quarry]

That's fine, please enjoy.

[lilac linden]

Observer knows the way

[lilac linden]

Was making a joke Mary. Sorry

[gloomy wyvern]

PC: $2k + game costs & peripherals
Xbox: $500 + game costs & peripherals
PS: $500 + game costs & peripherals

PC: my system has 120+ FPS
Xbox & PS: So.....

Xbox X|S series & PS5: same cost as prior series, 120+ FPS

[sullen quarry]

If you can afford it and you like it, it's all good

[gloomy wyvern]

I'm not for PC

[lilac linden]

I agree with this 100%

[gloomy wyvern]

I just simplified it

[sullen quarry]

Console is supposed to be cheaper

Nobody is surprised

[gloomy wyvern]

Yet meets these PC enthusiasts boasting about how good their system is

[sullen quarry]

Nobody gives a fuck

[gloomy wyvern]

Exactly

[sullen quarry]

We are all here for the love of our game we share

[royal swan]

Egos: 😦

[dusty totem]

Yup

Pc users do tend to call console players hackers and brag tho

Will not deny that one

[sullen quarry]

Aim assist can be pretty busted, but it's not the player's fault

You can use controller on PC so there's no reason to be mad

[gloomy wyvern]

It's not a hack when we have to use analog sticks, whereas you get to use a mouse and keyboard
(Yes, we all know we chose this ecosystem)

[sullen quarry]

It's totally up to you

[gloomy wyvern]

Which is what I said

[gray comet]

Paik Gaming

[sullen quarry]

Yes

[royal swan]

Funny how people said I dislike talking about platforms but yet the same people are doing just that

[sullen quarry]

It's non-inflammatory

We are all in agreeance

Okay okay fine

We are done talking about platforms.

[gloomy wyvern]

Platform talk is always fun

[royal swan]

Told y'all the scenario will always happen

[mossy badge]

Man I love final fantasy and ff16 & ff7 rebirth both is psv exclusive if only it was multi platform

[sullen quarry]

#other-games

[mossy badge]

This is related to platform talk

[royal swan]

Everyone wishes exclusively was gone, except those fanboy fucks

[sullen quarry]

It's all about the brands and their deals

Nothing about the players themselves

[mossy badge]

They want to sell their products

[royal swan]

All of my homies HATE epic games and their game exclusively from steam

Your game launcher is shit

[mossy badge]

I have red dead II on epic I couldn't wait for steam release that's the only game I bought there

[arctic grove]

i dont mind epic games

just when they do game exclusives i get upset

[sullen quarry]

definitely wait for steam release

I personally bought BF2042 on EGS because it was $5 with coupon applied

It still needs the EA launcher to play so it doesn't really matter where I buy it

[dusty totem]

I'm a console player chill bud

And pc

[gloomy wyvern]

I don't know what you're getting at

[patent pivot]

I'm glad there aren't any EGS games that I need to buy

[sullen quarry]

I'm thinking bout buying Payday 3 on EGS ngl

[dusty totem]

Nice price

[sullen quarry]

I've been staying away from Steam as of late

[dusty totem]

Isn't payday not very good

This year

[patent pivot]

for one

they require account

[sullen quarry]

two?

[patent pivot]

3

the new one lmao

[dusty totem]

Yeah like a Neptune account or whatever planet they use

[dusty totem]

How so

Steam is pretty good on deals n shit usually on games

[sullen quarry]

for two

[patent pivot]

I said 3

[sullen quarry]

I thought you were gonna mention a second point

you don't start something by saying "for one" if you aren't going to follow it up with "secondly"

[patent pivot]

thanks a lot Einstein

[sullen quarry]

what's the second thing

tell me another bad thing

[dusty totem]

I don't think it's that big a deal

[sullen quarry]

1. Needs a third-party account to play

2. ?

[dusty totem]

All I heard was the gameplay wasn't very good

[sullen quarry]

2. Gameplay lacking

3. I heard the matchmaking was atrocious

[dusty totem]

It's not an actual fact I'm just basing it off of people's opinions

Of the game

[patent pivot]

I won't be surprised if in game micro transactions is more aggressive than 2

[sullen quarry]

I never paid more than the asking price + DLC bundles

I definitely bought the anniversary bundle that included all DLC up to that point

[dusty totem]

Anniversary bundle?

[sullen quarry]

I like playing with a PS5 controller and Steam gets in the way a bit

[sullen quarry]

collection of sorts

[dusty totem]

Yeah that is true

You should try epic games they have lots of games with controller options

[sullen quarry]

I bind the buttons on the PS5 controller using an external software and Steam has its own set of bindings

[patent pivot]

good thing I have xbox one

handed down by my uncle

[dusty totem]

Oh yeah I go off of steam bidnings

[sullen quarry]

every game releasing these days has full Playstation controller support so it's all good

[dusty totem]

Yeah

[sullen quarry]

I have a Series X controller also

but the PS5 controller has more features

[dusty totem]

Yes

Does the series x still have batteries?

[sullen quarry]

plus my friend gifted it to me

[dusty totem]

Cus batteries in a controller is absolute dogshit

[sullen quarry]

AA batteries for wireless, but I have a 3m long cable so I don't have to use batteries

[dusty totem]

Oh you just USB it

[sullen quarry]

ensures full compatibility and low input delay

[dusty totem]

Yeah makes sense

[sullen quarry]

buying AA batteries are also kinda wasteful

[dusty totem]

I USB my ps5 controller

But that'd because i don't know how to wireless connect it to my pc

[sullen quarry]

if you use it wirelessly the games wont recognize it

best you stick to wired unless you were absolutely too far away

(because sony cant be bothered to make official drivers for it)

[dusty totem]

Yeah

That's what I do

Not a big deal

[sullen quarry]

whenever there's a newbie to pc gaming I would only recommend xbox controller

it's PC's official controller afterall

[dusty totem]

Ps controllers aren't too complicated

[sullen quarry]

yeah they arent

I've used ps controllers for 5+ years on PC and it can be a hassle sometimes

[dusty totem]

It's only pcs controller because Microsoft owns xbox

[sullen quarry]

no big deal still

it's also because xinput is the primary input method for most games

[dusty totem]

I've only been doing it for like 8 months

[sullen quarry]

so if you use ps controlelr sometimes it wouldnt even have ps buttons

I am "bilinigual" with controllers, so I can use ps controller with xbox on-screen prompts no problem

others might get confused if they arent familiar

[dusty totem]

I use to play with Xbox controllers sometimes but I doubt I could use it now

I can use the switch joysticks tho

Doesn't really help at all

[sullen quarry]

ah yeah

switch pro controller is nice but not that different from xbox controller

[dusty totem]

Yeah I can use a pro controller

[sullen quarry]

joycons are also uncomfortable over long periods of gaming

I have a pair

[dusty totem]

That's why I eventually switched to pro

My buddy still uses joysticks after 4 or 5 years

[sullen quarry]

having the choice of controller is nice, helps spice up the gaming experience

[dusty totem]

Oh yeah def

[sullen quarry]

I played on joycons for a while and it was certainly unique

hurts my hands

[dusty totem]

Lol

[sullen quarry]

but the buttons are nice and clicky

[dusty totem]

You gotta have wii experience

Lol

Unless you attach it to the switch itself ig

[sullen quarry]

You giving me ideas now

Hehe

[dusty totem]

Hehe

[patent pivot]

anyways

[sullen quarry]

Anyways

Battlefield 2042 season 6

[patent pivot]

im gonna guess there wont be ocean map

[night plover]

when when when is season 6 😮 😮 😮

[patent pivot]

im not going to be excited

[sullen quarry]

The least they could do is use airboats for naval combat

[patent pivot]

and bring back missing game modes

[sullen quarry]

Yah

Too much to ask

[patent pivot]

like obliteration

carrier assault

[sullen quarry]

brutal expectations

[patent pivot]

or ground assault

give ME something different for once

I am bored with repeating 3 game modes

[night plover]

what game mode do you like to see

[patent pivot]

obliteration, carrier assault

gun master

[night plover]

arent those bf4 gamemodes?

[patent pivot]

yes

thats my point

[night plover]

i only play rush and conquest on bf4 ;p

[patent pivot]

a shame servers nowadays dont hose other modes

which is why WR is here for the rescue

[night plover]

what does it take to host server?

[patent pivot]

atm, paying a fee

but soon

WR will make it free

[night plover]

no dedicated servers?

[patent pivot]

you either pay a server or not

thats it

if you need to host

I recommend waiting on WR

[night plover]

I could host server, depending on the requirements soon. :p

[patent pivot]

as ong its a relatively modern CPU

and 4 cores minimum

[night plover]

oh thats easy lol

[patent pivot]

for me

I am excited for bots

[night plover]

bots?

[patent pivot]

and mods to balance the gameplay

[lilac linden]

When does WR come out

[patent pivot]

Soon ™️

[night plover]

season six will arrive in October

[mild coral]

still looking for heli driver

[night plover]

I hope they will add some more attachments for the bf4 weapons they added

[patent pivot]

meh

if s6 wont add new game modes, maps, and content

[night plover]

they do add new content

[patent pivot]

since when

[remote kiln]

there are new maps and weapons

[patent pivot]

since around like

[remote kiln]

we've known that, for months

[patent pivot]

s4, 5,

almost the same shit

[remote kiln]

there's also a new vehicle

[patent pivot]

since there wont be an ocean map

my hope is very low

[night plover]

i mean we dont have boats in bf2042? so xd

[remote kiln]

there are boats, it's in portal

[night plover]

Heey deco :p

[remote kiln]

it's just not used in any of the main playlist maps

[night plover]

i fixed the issue 😮

Havent crashed in 4 hours. :p

[patent pivot]

another salvation for this game

is to revive portal

then again

doubts and doubts

[night plover]

oh i don't play portal lol. :p

are the boats from bf4?

[remote kiln]

portal is not coming back and shouldn't do either

was a nice idea but in reality a dead concept

[patent pivot]

and I will not be surprised the game will still be stale and repetitive by the end of the support

$20 wasted

[night plover]

well every game is repetitive..

[patent pivot]

hell, even I find V somewhat enjoyable

and older BF felt exciting and fun

[night plover]

1 and V have very good details..

but i never enjoyed them

[remote kiln]

only problem is you can't play 5 nowadays

[patent pivot]

well I am enjoying BF3 thanks to VU

and now, its BF4 turn with WR

[night plover]

I like modern war

[patent pivot]

if BF games from BC1 to V had offline mode with AI bots

[remote kiln]

it would do nothing

lol

AI bots didn't exist in the franchise until battlefield 1

and even then they were just prototypes

[patent pivot]

you're aware 2142 was the last BF game to include solo mode with bots

[night plover]

offline mode with bots? who plays that haha

[patent pivot]

I am a pve person, not pvp

[remote kiln]

they are not AI bots

they were made by SEED

and they were first prototyped in battlefield 1

[patent pivot]

who the heck was SEED

[remote kiln]

https://www.ea.com/seed

[patent pivot]

what, a sub company for DICE or something

[night plover]

https://www.ea.com/en-au/news/teaching-ai-agents-battlefield-1

[remote kiln]

no it's not a sub company

SEED is a division within EA who exist to invent new infrastructure for games

[mighty holly]

Heh seed

[remote kiln]

yes

they weren't made by DICE

[night plover]

I think he means the bots have brains 😛

[mighty holly]

Funnie name calling themselves seed

[remote kiln]

they use neural network data from players to simulate player movement in a game

[patent pivot]

and then BF1 was never funded for this

[mighty holly]

They’re gonna seed all over battlefield

[patent pivot]

disappointing

[remote kiln]

?

they were in battlefield 1 what are you talking about

lol

[night plover]

normal bots were just following a path brain dead, while AI stops and hides? :p

[patent pivot]

you mean it went unused

[remote kiln]

no

it was in the game

[patent pivot]

campaign?

[remote kiln]

no?

[patent pivot]

then where did it exist in the game

[remote kiln]

https://youtu.be/FKHgzR456aA?si=HZL2UWF10MlytpNH

[night plover]

doesn't fortnite have AI bots now too?

[patent pivot]

im guessing they cannot be inserted into a server

[remote kiln]

??

what are you talking about, the game only runs on servers

[patent pivot]

didnt bother to watch the whole thing, so summarize it

[remote kiln]

you didn't bother to watch 5 minutes clearly either

[night plover]

i like how the AI is looking through walls at 2min xd

[remote kiln]

the ones in 1 were in their extreme infancy

[dusty totem]

Mhm

[patent pivot]

im just gonna say nobody can utilize the bot system in their own servers

[remote kiln]

as in very extreme infancy

it was the first mainline game that was used for having data be read for

it continued with 5, then it was fielded fully in 2042

[dusty totem]

Yup

[chilly jacinth]

and they basically beat the average bf player

[patent pivot]

fully developed my ass.
I played portal with BC2 bots

[chilly jacinth]

which is sad

[remote kiln]

more or less

[patent pivot]

they barely do anything useful

and are not advanced

[night plover]

I don't know if the AI is already implented, but the bots are very easy and react super slow 😛

[patent pivot]

im not impressed

[dusty totem]

Well they're bote

Bots

[remote kiln]

you know there's a thing called being intentionally made worse right

lol

[patent pivot]

even I find BF3 bots somewhat better than 2042

[remote kiln]

that's just dumb to say

[patent pivot]

they can kill you quickly than 2042 bots

[remote kiln]

the bots in 3 walk into walls and can't even engage combat properly

[patent pivot]

the mod using linear path with nodes

its an extreme limitation

had it used nav mesh or some kind

there wouldnt be these problems

[remote kiln]

I don't think you've played this game all too often, pretty clear, but the bots at the very beginning, were death machines

and they were intentionally nerfed

[dusty totem]

Yes

[patent pivot]

fucking shit

[dusty totem]

Nerfed too much

[patent pivot]

they cant destroy vehicles

defenders are lame at defending mcoms

[dusty totem]

They could

At release

Oh

The edit

[remote kiln]

lol

[patent pivot]

they cant deploy bags and revive you

[chilly jacinth]

they def can

[remote kiln]

a broken clock is right twice a day

[chilly jacinth]

they delete vehicles

[dusty totem]

Is it really

[patent pivot]

I was mowing down them down out in the open

[dusty totem]

Damn

[patent pivot]

I never saw a single bot use their RPG

or get close with their C4

[chilly jacinth]

ok

so somehow there were no engineers

[night plover]

wait are you talking about battlefield 2042 bots not using RPGS?

[patent pivot]

I was playing BC2 era

[remote kiln]

since a clock is read in 24 hours but is read in 12, there's a minimum of two chances it reads correctly per day (assuming it's still ticking)

[dusty totem]

Hm

[patent pivot]

I know I speculated this before

[dusty totem]

That makes sense actually

[patent pivot]

but I believe BC2 and BF3 bots are underdeveloped

[dusty totem]

Well no shit that was like years ago

[remote kiln]

wow imagine a game released over a decade ago being underdeveloped

such a revelation

[night plover]

starfield bots are underdeveloped too xd

[patent pivot]

I rather not play 2042 bots

[remote kiln]

don't play it then

[patent pivot]

because of stupid specialists

[remote kiln]

nobody's forcing a gun to you

pretty simple

[night plover]

[remote kiln]

being in here for 20 minutes about it doesn't change you're not forced to play it

[dusty totem]

[ruby marsh]

I'm looking for experienced TDM players to squad up with on PS5 ..I play TDM and sometimes I do have cross-play on,,I play on Eastern Time (USA)

[patent pivot]

2042 is a mess.
bf3 modding scene is just acceptable
and now, BF4 will soon take the crown

[night plover]

#lfg-crossplay

[remote kiln]

you're not some divine person saying this lol

we've heard this recycled over 200 times

it's boring, say something new

[chilly jacinth]

pretty sure the 2042 bots use the traditional classes

[night plover]

bf4 released terrible, so did bf2042.. WE SHALL RAISE

[remote kiln]

^

[patent pivot]

that does not make it the same for players

[remote kiln]

but something something let me fake history lol

it speaks a lot that it took an entire modding framework to have battlefield 3 be enjoyable to play

[patent pivot]

different is... BF4 atmosphere and AOD were phenomemal

2042 had little of it

[remote kiln]

no it didn't

what are you talking about

[night plover]

Currently, i like bf2042 more than bf4.

[patent pivot]

every time I get on any map

things dont feel exciting

[remote kiln]

you think battlefield 4 the game where it didn't have 45hz servers and you couldn't finish a game without disconnecting or crashing for a year had an atmosphere?

[night plover]

that's your feeling, others have different feelings. :p

[remote kiln]

you actually think that?

I swear this playerbase are the most revisionist playerbase of all time

[chilly jacinth]

bf4 was perfect

[remote kiln]

not even halo copium enjoyers are this bad

[chilly jacinth]

[night plover]

but yeah bf4 had terrible servers constant kicks and even unplayable for months

[patent pivot]

I never been kicked buy a bug

[night plover]

then you haven't played on release. 😅

[remote kiln]

not played 2042 for a lot clearly and has barely touched 4 either

[patent pivot]

and did the game age well? Id say so

[remote kiln]

standard battlefield complainer

[night plover]

2042 was less bad than bf4, just not enough content

[dusty totem]

I don't get why people complain about bf lol

Just enjoy the fuckin game

[patent pivot]

remove the specialisist, add more game modes that featured in previous games

[remote kiln]

you're not saying something revolutionary

you barely know the history of 3 or 4

[willow sky]

this guy came out from the battlefield group on facebook

[remote kiln]

but keep acting as some authority on good games for the franchise

[dusty totem]

Yeah like deco said your just repeating like what bf 4 is

[patent pivot]

we're done here

[dusty totem]

There's a battlefield group on facebook

Llol

[willow sky]

full of bots saying the repetitive bullshit over 2 years

[dusty totem]

Nice

[remote kiln]

[chilly jacinth]

amazing that people still use facebook

[lilac linden]

Was thinking the same thing

[patent pivot]

I only use FB for shit posting group

thats about it

[mighty holly]

!!when we getting Facebook 2

[tender pendant]

Soon™

[mighty holly]

[night plover]

whats FB?

[dusty totem]

Lol

[dusty totem]

Facebook

[remote kiln]

the entitlement of this playerbase thinking they have a right to criticise a game and recommend another when they played a decade old game for, a year, is astounding

[dusty totem]

Aka old people app

[night plover]

I was just joking lol, people still use that? 😂

[dusty totem]

It's actually better than "x" at this point

[patent pivot]

as for twitter, I still have it for following artists and, again, shit posting account

[night plover]

Well, i don't use social media that often.. once in a few days

[willow sky]

you'd be surprised facebook is still on top 5

[lilac linden]

To be fair. That’s everything anymore really.

[dusty totem]

I'm not on any social media

[willow sky]

our age gap just doesn't find facebook, well, soothing

[night plover]

Just can't stand all the negativity on social media.. depressing.

[remote kiln]

not wrong

[patent pivot]

why are you surprised

[night plover]

Surprised where?

[patent pivot]

you seemed depressed about it

Im not

[remote kiln]

really?

because you spent 30 minutes complaining about a game

[night plover]

I said social media is depressing when you scroll through feeds there's always someone with negativity..

main reason i don't use it that often 😛

[patent pivot]

I usually ignore those content

[dusty totem]

This is why I don't have any social media accounts

[night plover]

I can't even sit on my phone for hours scrolling.. it's so not social.

[patent pivot]

now anyways

[grand galleon]

Should I use the lcmg or the avancy a

[night plover]

avancy

but use whatever you like lol :p

[red zinc]

Lcmg better for range

Avancys better up close

Imo

Why would you ask that

Just use what u want

[willow sky]

lowkey im a control freak so i have better handling with the avancys

but im pretty sure the lcmg is better for dps

[ivory canopy]

Everything's better with a bipod.

Ask the K30

[willow sky]

k30 with the bipod

[ivory canopy]

That'd be like if they put an underbarrel grenade launcher on a sniper rifle.

oh wait

[willow sky]

wdym bro thats balanced

[ivory canopy]

SWS with Masterkey

The balance of long range ability with CQB lethality

[willow sky]

sws is like the m5a3

all around ig

[ivory canopy]

Also funny when you consider the Masterkey is unironically one of the best shotgun options.

[willow sky]

even a better option than the mcs

.

😔 #dicebuffmcsplease

[ivory canopy]

What gun isn't?

[willow sky]

i'd argue about the 12m

but we shouldn't talk about the 12m

[sullen quarry]

Hello

[ebon pilot]

oop

[red zinc]

Am I the only one who’s too addicted to multiplayer games to bring themself to play single player games anymore lol

Like I want to but I’d rather be grinding a multiplayer game😂

[sullen quarry]

Yes that is normal

[ivory canopy]

Lotus Land Story is a great SP game

[sullen quarry]

Singleplayer games can be played anytime

[red zinc]

There’s a shit load of great SP games I just can’t bring themself to play them over battlefield 😂 or whatever game I’m on at the time

[sullen quarry]

So unless you finish grinding your MP game, you shouldn't touch an SP game

[red zinc]

It’s definitely a mild addiction but fuck it

Can’t play Witcher 3 too focused on tier 1 camos 🤣

[sullen quarry]

MP definitely ruined SP for me

[red zinc]

Low key I think im going through that too now

In the past I managed to play both just fine

But now MP fiendish addiction has taken over

Also known as

League of legend syndrome

But I don’t play league

God help me if i did

[sullen quarry]

Maybe you found that you prefer MP games

[red zinc]

Definitely do yea

[sullen quarry]

You wouldn't be here if you weren't

[red zinc]

I just have a love for some sp games at heart and sometimes wanna experience them more but

Tier 1 doesn’t get itself son

And to be clear I’m not putting off playing them

I’ll load them up and start playing

But just want to get back to MP so

[sullen quarry]

Do you also feel like singleplayers are one-and-done games?

Finish story + dlc, uninstall immediately

[red zinc]

Depends on the game for me

[sullen quarry]

Finish cod campaign - uninstall

[red zinc]

Shadow of war for example has tonnes of replay ability

But story focused games

Yea

[grand galleon]

Also

[red zinc]

One play and delete

[grand galleon]

What happened to the campaigns for 2042

Did dice just give you?

Give up?

[red zinc]

Hazard zone and portal replaced it

[grand galleon]

😭

[red zinc]

Or one of the two did

[ivory raptor]

guys every time bf 2042 give me problem with ping.. others game i go with 5 of ping ( mi wifi is a 2.5Gb/s)

I tried to fix with dns, and in the first time they works but after 1 hour the ping continue to have problems

[sullen quarry]

I heard hazard zone was originally going to be the concept of 2042

it could've been 100% battle royale

[merry heart]

sits down

snacks on coffee cake

[spare quest]

[sullen quarry]

nice weather

[merry heart]

very

[still vault]

try removing the power cable to your wifi and router etc. for 5 minutes

[ebon pilot]

the cheesiest cheese ever cheesed

[merry heart]

my running outside to see where you are

[sullen quarry]

so much cheese

[arctic grove]

🧀

[ivory canopy]

Made it to mastery 35 with the K30

[mild coral]

still looking for heli driver on BF2042 add Yuumellow on EA

[spare quest]

i would look for a pilot

[still vault]

I would hold out for a pilot 'til the end of the night

[mild coral]

this shit more rare than diamond

[still vault]

He's gotta be skilled, and he's gotta be quick
And he's gotta be back from a dogfight"

[thorn yarrow]

What do you need a pilot for anyway. Nobody flying heli's in lobbies?

[calm bison]

I remember those days when they released those shitty animated videos

[spare quest]

having a good gunner is more rare

[calm bison]

Wonder what happened to them

[mild coral]

they dont answer when I ask to help them with heals/gunner

i write messages in every game ive tried for 2 days

[thorn yarrow]

Huh

[calm bison]

Just fly jets

Become your own best pilot

[mild coral]

i dont like jets and prefer gunner than pilots on helis

[spare quest]

Sometimes if i see a good pilot in my team and he has a free slot i just jump in and repair

[calm bison]

What’s wrong with jets?

[mild coral]

you cant join 2 seats helis if hes not in your squad though

[spare quest]

thats good tbh

[thorn yarrow]

So you just wanna be a heli gunner

[mild coral]

yup

last year i had someone but now im back in the game hes not playin anymore

[thorn yarrow]

[devout rain]

why wont battlefield 2042 open

[thorn yarrow]

We got another one

[azure lodge]

ChatGPT's reply to <#battlefield-2042 message>:

There could be several reasons why Battlefield 2042 is not opening. Here are a few troubleshooting steps you can try:

1. Make sure your computer meets the minimum system requirements for the game.
2. Verify that your graphics drivers are up to date.
3. Restart your computer and try launching the game again.
4. If you have any overlay software (such as Discord overlay or GeForce Experience overlay), try disabling them.
5. Disable any antivirus or firewall programs temporarily and see if the game starts.
6. Try repairing the game files. If you're using Origin, right-click on Battlefield 2042 in your game library, select "Repair" or "Check for Updates," and follow the prompts.
7. If none of the above steps work, consider uninstalling and reinstalling the game.

If these steps do not work, you may need to contact EA Support for further assistance. They can be reached at https://help.ea.com.

[devout rain]

ill try 3 and 7 thanks

im not deleting shit or changing softwares

[spare quest]

do you just wanna level up the heli mastery as gunner or what

[still vault]

then you are going to have a hard time on PC in general

[devout rain]

nuh uhhhhhhh im on laptop

[still vault]

laptops are pcs

[devout rain]

ok thanks ELECTRONIC ARTS is now opening

[calm bison]

Honestly with all the issues PC has generally speaking I’m kinda happy to be a console player

I can play Fallout New Vegas without having to download mods in order to make sure it works

[spare quest]

i was able to play new vegas without mods

[devout rain]

conquest

[sullen quarry]

Please quit your preaching, it's as annoying as PC snobs telling you how much better their PCs are

I never had an issue launching 2042 or any other game for that matter.

So for me PC is a perfect experience.

[strong snow]

[calm bison]

Generally speaking, while this is the case for most systems it is nice to not have to completely restart some systems just to play a game

And while consoles aren’t infallible either they are more consistent

[sullen quarry]

Dreyfuss, shut the fuck up.

[calm bison]

No

[sullen quarry]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

[calm bison]

No but I said it with confidence and that’s what matters

[sullen quarry]

You talk down on others because they have problems to solve. You are the least helpful person here.

[calm bison]

Where did I talk down?

I prefer to talk straight ahead

Or up

[sullen quarry]

Yeah I mean, keep telling us about how your console is so much better.

Totally isn't annoying.

Or unhelpful.

[still vault]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1152712958779076680/hypnotoad2.gif

[spare quest]

damn toxic af

[calm bison]

Dude you need to realize that 10 minutes ago I already realized I was wrong and now I totally exist just to piss you off

[sullen quarry]

Okay, that's over with.

How's your day going

[calm bison]

I got a headshot with airplane MGs on BF1

[sullen quarry]

oh wow

I didn't know that was possible

well done

[spare quest]

Why wouldn't it be possible

[calm bison]

Well i would imagine it’s possible it’s just that the icon of a soldier is so big it obscures the actual target so you’re just blindly shooting

[sullen quarry]

Not impossible, just hard to get

[calm bison]

I’ve done it before in BFV and 2042 but BF1 it is rather difficult

[sullen quarry]

Good good

[patent spear]

Some problem with EA PLay?

[sullen quarry]

I should reinstall BF1

I miss it

[merry heart]

just dont play on unmoderated servers

[spare quest]

killing pilots but not the plane itself happened quite a few times in bfv

[sullen quarry]

Only EA official?

[merry heart]

those are unmoderated servers

[spare quest]

[sullen quarry]

oh, no wonder

[merry heart]

rolls to couch

[sullen quarry]

turns on netflix

[arctic grove]

[sullen quarry]

you know what time it is

[merry heart]

[sullen quarry]

It's One Piece Live Action time

[calm bison]

For me it was every time I flew a P-51 I would shoot the pilot out of the 109

Now I have shot pilots out of their planes with sniper rifles in BF1

[spare quest]

killing pilots with the tank hunter attack plane was also fun

[calm bison]

Like twice

[spare quest]

but why

[calm bison]

Cuz you get to style on them

Their in their Fokkers or Camels and I’m just here

[patent spear]

Is BF2042 server down or something?

[calm bison]

With a piece of shit Mosin nagant

[spare quest]

sadly the pilot hitboxes are very weird in bf1, Ravic tested them iirc

[calm bison]

They are

[spare quest]

i think i only got 2 pilot snipes

[calm bison]

But the 6x HMGs on the P51D don’t seem to care

[merry heart]

imagine playing 2042 in crocs

[arctic grove]

imagine wearing crocs outside

[merry heart]

imagine

[spare quest]

[arctic grove]

🐊

[ebon pilot]

it's almost over

[calm bison]

Those 18 kills will be the hardest of your life

[granite trail]

I keep trying to give this game a chance and every time i do, the conclusion always is that its kinda shit, it just aint it

[copper ice]

you are right

[granite trail]

Ive played the life out of BF games since bad company 2 and 2042 just doesn't sit right with me regardless of how many times i try it

[spare quest]

understandable

[granite trail]

Also, as a tank main from bf4, this game absolutely offends me

I would never expect tanks to be this shit

[ivory canopy]

One drawback to finally finishing every SMG is now I have to get used to using the AC42

[spare quest]

skill issue tbh

[granite trail]

Theres a character in this game with a fucking TV guided missile

[spare quest]

So what? The damage ain‘t that good against tanks

[granite trail]

Its plenty when you can't counter it because the person shooting can be miles away behind cover

Not to mention pretty much every class gets some form of AT

[drowsy shuttle]

Theres too many tickets in BT 128p

Its sarcasm btw

[ivory canopy]

Irish's APS-36, the active protection system

Those can beat Lis missile

[granite trail]

The whole operator thing is fucking stupid imo, it was never needed in a bf game, and still isn't

[drowsy shuttle]

It's 3 years after.. people need to get over it

[granite trail]

No, this is a battlefield game, not rainbow six siege

[remote kiln]

and you should still get over it lol

[granite trail]

No

[ivory canopy]

I just realized something

The True Patriot skin for Irish is his uniform from BF4

[copper ice]

vehicles are both OP and UP in 2042

truly the worst of both worlds

the operators are also bad from a design perspective because a filled gadget slot really kills your customisability

[granite trail]

They're OP until the enemy team notices you and then everything on the map targets you

[granite trail]

And that, combined with too much overall utility

[copper ice]

which is why only 2 operators in the whole game have access to proper launchers and both their dedicated operator gadgets are shit

[copper ice]

all infantry ranged AT is bad and irish APS counters literally all of it

on the other hand, a single person with c5 instakills any vehicle if they get close enough

leads to vehicles camping with 0 counter because they will absolutely always die if they push

[granite trail]

Individually they can feel bad, but it doesn't matter when almost every infantry has something to damage you with

[spare quest]

[granite trail]

It takes like 3 dudes with AT launchers to start overwhelming you

[copper ice]

none of them have the range to do it outside of engie with launchers unless you're too close (by 2042 standards, not reasonable game standards)

[granite trail]

Yeah by 2042 standards you either camp and farm kills or fucking die

[copper ice]

boris and crawford are the only ones with access to dumbfire launchers and their damage is low combined with awful reload speeds and low rocket capacity (and dogshit operator gadgets)

lis gets basically guaranteed damage but its very low and she only gets 2 rockets with insanely long regen time so she feels both bad to play against and bad to use

its truly the worst of both worlds

it's literally faster to suicide as lis after using both rockets if you're dedicated tank hunting

this is objectively bad game design

[granite trail]

Summary of 2042 overall

[copper ice]

id agree with that tbh

[granite trail]

Also, and this is controversial, i perfer the hitscan esk gunplay of BF4, in 2042 trying to shoot someone on the move feels like shooting at neo

[remote kiln]

[granite trail]

Not go mention the squishy feeling, obnoxiously fat tracers

[copper ice]

2042 gunplay was ass in the beta and ass for most of release and still ass after the AR changes

[granite trail]

Yes

[copper ice]

they can't decide what they want and they can't balance it properly because 128p exists with ludicrous map sizes

[granite trail]

Also, the annoying af gun accuracy, like how tf do you miss even when controlling recoil

[copper ice]

same reason vehicles are fucked

[ivory canopy]

Aight so I've got every SMG to T1 now. The AC-42 is next.

[copper ice]

people hated the random spread from bf1 and hated the spread to recoil of bfv so they just removed spread and hrec entirely in 2042

full autoing people at 100m is sickening

[granite trail]

You actually manage that?

Because it felt much easier in BF4 imo, in a good way

[copper ice]

it happens a lot less now that they cunked the ARs but it was an issue before and it still happens too much for my liking

now the guns just dont feel consistent

[ivory canopy]

Yea that's a lot of the issue.

[granite trail]

Yea this

[ivory canopy]

I'd rather them be difficult to control but consistent than to make it easy part-time in some arbitrary fashion

I felt like the P90 and AC9 were very inconsistent.

[granite trail]

What pisses me off the most is the hitreg

[copper ice]

both bf1 spread and bfv spread to recoil were better than this

[fresh lintel]

I'm enjoying the AC9 more than I did.

[copper ice]

hitreg takes a massive dive because 128p servers

[fresh lintel]

It strangely hits like a fucking truck at range too? Its weird.

[granite trail]

Like, if my crosshair is on someone, and im shooting them at close range, they should be consistently dying

[ivory canopy]

AC9 ADS is just garbage. It's good in CQB hipfire scenarios if you equip it right but it sometimes just feels less accurate when aiming.

[copper ice]

even on the 64p servers i swear to god its not as consistent as older games

[fresh lintel]

I'm not gonna say much since i'm a console player but i have actively shat on people with it at range ;v;

[ivory canopy]

I've sometimes managed to get it dealt at range but for the most part I just get wrecked.

[fresh lintel]

This games hipfire is wack. You need to "Lead" your fucking hipfire to hit them.

If you move right, you have to aim right too. Its awful.

[copper ice]

it's a bullet hose so it's got damage drop

bfv had so so so so much nicer hipfire

it hurts me literally every time i play

i dont see the point in hipfiring when ADS takes about 0.1 seconds and hipfire is so inconsistent even with laser sight on smgs

[fresh lintel]

Itll lose to an ACR or a AR at range if they can aim. Because you do lose damage and you do need to tap burst basically.

But you can still win

[copper ice]

bfv hipfire was godlike

[fresh lintel]

The headshot multi is another issue with AC9.

[ivory canopy]

idk - I've had better gunfights with hipfire on AC9 a lot of times. It's bizarre.

[granite trail]

Headshot multi is an issue overall

[fresh lintel]

Theres like no reason to use SMGs lmao

[copper ice]

smg dogshit headshot multi is painful

[safe bramble]

this is what happens when you make soflam/laser designation dogshit too

[granite trail]

Especially with how inconsistent guns are

[ivory canopy]

Meanwhile the K30 is clearly better to aim when using it.

[copper ice]

soflam is worthless in 2042

[safe bramble]

it is

compared to bf4 it's a total joke lmao

[copper ice]

lis cant lock on to it so thats 50% of all engie players gone automatically

[ivory canopy]

Good thing I already got it to T1 xD

[fresh lintel]

Theres people on last gen who think SMGs dont need a higher HSM and i'm like

"Most of you guys cant even hit a target moving, what the fuck?"

[copper ice]

half the boris players arent using a rocket launcher

the crawford players with rockets try to lock on to soflam and then the vehicle just smokes

or flares

fucking heli flares

[fresh lintel]

Too be fair, as a current Boris player (trying to T1 him) i cant use rockets when no one drops ammo

[granite trail]

SMGs have been overpowered since bf5 tho

[copper ice]

there's literally no reason to use engie if you're not using rockets

[ivory canopy]

Not so sure about that. In CQB scenarios on certain TDM maps, most certainly.

[fresh lintel]

In this game they can be balanced by the fact that most maps are so open that they simply lose to ARs.

[ivory canopy]

But on maps with wide open areas where players can spot you from over 100m - yeah that.

[copper ice]

the only really good smg is the PBX and thats because it has literally bugged close combat ammo

[drowsy shuttle]

Man, BT 128p has so many tickets my last game lasted 1h and 45min to end.

[spare quest]

Just redeploy as soon as you are out of rockets

[copper ice]

doubles your minimum btk range

[granite trail]

Faster ttk than other guns in close and mid range, but the reason isn't really that theyre so powerful, rather that other guns are just shit at range

[safe bramble]

this is an issue with projectiles being way to slow

[granite trail]

Like i said, the countless scenarios of spraying someone and your shots just not connecting

[safe bramble]

even if you immediately relock a heli who just used flares, the rockets are slower then regen time

and forget doing that on jets

[copper ice]

heli flares are fucking insanely busted

but they wont nerf them because 128p

[safe bramble]

no, bf2042 flares are the same as ecm in bf4

[ivory canopy]

Someone made some stat notes on the guns in BF2042 and apparently there's a 2 way tie for 2nd fastest TTK - PBX-45 CC ammo with any barrel except extended and 6KU suppressor, and the AM40 with standard ammo and any barrel except 6KU suppressor.

[copper ice]

2042 flares are ecm AND flares

[safe bramble]

the problem isn't countermeasures, it's the projectile speeds to punish bad countermeasures

[fresh lintel]

Yeah the hipfire needs consistency checks. Like my PKP has more consistent fucking hipfire than most of my SMGs.

[ivory canopy]

Well, that's a lie. Any gun that can 1HK has obviously the lowest TTK

[copper ice]

there are no bad countermeasures on helis with their agility and regen speed

[ivory canopy]

So by that vein the NTW-50 has the fastest TTK

[copper ice]

pbx has 20m 4btk range, am40 only has 10m

that extra 10m makes a lot of difference

[fresh lintel]

But at the same time, AM40 has a higher HSM.

[ivory canopy]

Yea ig

[gray comet]

Please DICE, need SOFLAM points

[copper ice]

its also why cc ammo is broken on pbx because its not supposed to have 20m 4btk range

[ivory canopy]

But I remember adoring the AM40 once I unlocked the standard ammo.

[fresh lintel]

So that range can be increased by simply hitting headshots

[safe bramble]

even if SOFLAM does get points, mechanically it's useless

even in bf4 people rarely laser, and bf4 has insanely good laser mechanics and points (minus if you lose lock)

[copper ice]

am40 has really weirdly fast reload speed

like the 2nd fastest in the game or something

[ivory canopy]

and tbh for some reason I never used the CC ammo on the PBX to get the T1

Well, I did, but I usually used the standard ammo instead.

[fresh lintel]

I'm surprised its not longer, but at the same time its not the first time ive seen a high rof weapon having good reload speed

[safe bramble]

bf2042 lasing has a lack of air guidence top down attacks making it useless against ground armor and slow projectile speed that makes it useless against air vehicles

[copper ice]

cause the game doesnt tell you damage values so no one actually knows the cc ammo is good

[safe bramble]

translation: any vehicle ever

[ivory canopy]

True

[fresh lintel]

Like the GD7F in Planetside has a similar reload speed IIRC.

[copper ice]

also why the devs havent fixed it

because they dont know its broken either

[ivory canopy]

Trick: at point blank, the standard ammo types do the same exact damage.

So weird

[copper ice]

pbx cc ammo is the only cc ammo in the entire game that increases minimum btk range

[drowsy shuttle]

I would give my left nut for dice to remover armor plates from the game. But they will never do it cause they need to protect little johnny.. otherwise little johnny will complain to mommy that he is dying too much in bf

[copper ice]

it's got longer range than the high power

[fresh lintel]

But plates are like.. Such a non issue atm?

[gray comet]

Btk?

[copper ice]

bullets to kill

[fresh lintel]

Like a headshot completely destroys them

[ivory canopy]

Another oddity, if Sorrow's stat sheet is to be believed, the SVK has the same TTK with all barrels except the 6KU suppressor.

[gray comet]

Plates dont bother me

[fresh lintel]

A plate only adds 20 Temporary HP

[ivory canopy]

But only if you use standard ammo.

[drowsy shuttle]

You do headshots 100% of the time?

[copper ice]

svk standard ammo is best by miles

[ivory canopy]

It really is

[copper ice]

its short barrel is bugged and doesnt work

devs havent fixed it

[fresh lintel]

I dont know my average but I have a 21% average. I rarely die to plates

[gray comet]

It makes a fun battle rifle on standard mags

[fresh lintel]

Average acc not headshot acc*

[ivory canopy]

According to said stat sheet you can use the long barrel without a RoF penalty

[fresh lintel]

Ah I have a fucking 25% HSR.

[copper ice]

svk probably top 3 guns

[ivory canopy]

SVK was always a solid option in the game.

[drowsy shuttle]

It's enough for them not dying and kill you specially if you are already half health.. armor plates is one of the stupidest shit in the game and only exists to protect little Johnnys.... not to be a protection for assault people that will rush points as the tip of the spear like dice devs tried to feed us that lame excuse

[ivory canopy]

Even in the early days when most of the other guns were unusable

[granite trail]

Also, of all the changes since bf4, the one that annoys mr the most are the bipods

They worked fine in bf4, why ruin it

[gray comet]

BF4 bipods were clunky as fuck

[copper ice]

slow rof means it suffers the least from bad hitreg, massive mag size, incredibly long 2hk range, really fast ttk, gets to have UBGL

[gray comet]

Super picky about placement

[ivory canopy]

They should have made them work like they do in BF1 tbh

[fresh lintel]

It doesnt really help with assaulting, as someone who T1'd plates. Its chip damage protection. And a VERY SLIGHT edge over opponents who cant aim in CQQ or Med+

[copper ice]

plates barely matter in 2042 when hitreg is this bad lel

[drowsy shuttle]

Kay.

[ivory canopy]

and they should make it so it's ready to deploy by default instead of having to constantly press X to see if the damned bipod is even usable.

[gray comet]

As an Assault I’m addicted to the SPH launcher

[granite trail]

Not really, once down they were perfect

In bf5 theyre shit, constantly failing

[copper ice]

I'd take someone using plates over SPH

[fresh lintel]

I'm not saying you're bad, I am just saying from my own experience that Plates really dont offer too much of a difference that their advantage is almost placebo.

[granite trail]

In 2042 they feel like a passive buff rather than an attachment

[copper ice]

bipod has been shit in all BF games

[gray comet]

Yeah, rather than the 10-15s spent messing with it to delpoy right

[copper ice]

its never deployed consistently

[granite trail]

Skill issue imo

[gray comet]

Bipod is fun on some guns and really helps but its not perfect

[fresh lintel]

Like it might take ONE more bullet to kill a plated player with bodyshots.

Keyword: MIGHT.

[ebon pilot]

it's ovar

[gray comet]

Its joever

[granite trail]

Bf5 bipods driving me insane rn

Why did they make them so shit

[copper ice]

because you could lie on your back and put bipod on your chest

[fresh lintel]

I'd do that IRL

[copper ice]

backprone in bfv was a nightmare

[fresh lintel]

I still lowkey hate prone as a mechanic

[granite trail]

Thryre just as picky about placement in bf5, exactly now they can toggle off by themselves

[ivory canopy]

Try it with the XCE now

[granite trail]

Great feature when you're trying to track a target

[ebon pilot]

I'm trying to work my way down, so I'll do it after the DXR which is currently about halfway done

[copper ice]

bipod being able to be turned off in 2042 is so fucking dumb

[fresh lintel]

PKP did bipod right

Forever on

[red zinc]

wdym

like being able to fold it in, or swap attachments ?

i hate the bipod in 2042 its so useless

makes aiming so much worse

then it doesnt even add much value when youre actually posted up with it

game already has fuck all recoil

it isnt needed like it was in previous games

[grand galleon]

Should I use the rm68 or m5a3

[red zinc]

rm is stronger

m5 is a very mid gun

[grand galleon]

What about the acw r

[red zinc]

not bad but not great

idk havent used acw much

[grand galleon]

Should I use the am40 over it?

[red zinc]

rm68 super strong though

am40 is pretty bad

imo

[grand galleon]

Oh ok

[red zinc]

rm68 and GEW are solid

AK isnt bad at all

[grand galleon]

What about the star

Sfar

Scar

Gun

[red zinc]

thats possibly strongest AR right now

probbably gets a nerf soon

[fresh lintel]

The ACR and RM68 are meta, the RM68 is better in a way since it hits hard at range and has painfully easy recoil and has canted sights by default and is permanently silenced.

[drowsy shuttle]

You just need BSV mate

[grand galleon]

Bag is hard to grind for

[fresh lintel]

M5 is good, slap on shortened barrel.

[gray comet]

Heres a weird idea use what looks cool

[grand galleon]

I just need something beginner

[gray comet]

M5 is fine tbh

[drowsy shuttle]

That's the ghostmaker r10 or dm7

[fresh lintel]

Yeah just use guns that feel comfortable

[gray comet]

DM7 slaps

[red zinc]

ak12 and m5 are both really good beginner guns

[drowsy shuttle]

M5 is the best for scrubs

[fresh lintel]

Forgot to answer, the SFAR is basically the original RM68. Little recoil, hits like a fucking truck at range. And has underbarrel nades.

M5 AK are both great guns. I'd say use them first to get a feel for the guns. And maybe work down the list.

But the meta ARs are: RM68, ACR, SFAR. Honorable mentions to AC42, M416, MTAR, GEW and AEK.

Which M416 used to be dogshit now its surprisingly really good.

Better than the M16 now IMO

[grand galleon]

Acwr or Acr?

[fresh lintel]

ACW yeah

Lots of guns lots of names to remember, too much for my old ass to remember ;v;

[sullen quarry]

Hello chat

[fresh lintel]

Hoi!

[sullen quarry]

Uh why am I here again?

[fresh lintel]

Because we're cool? ;v;

[sullen quarry]

I got nothing to go in 2042

I just want STG44 in 2042

[fresh lintel]

I just use 2042 as a pseudo general chat

Future tech STG when?

[sullen quarry]

I couldn't decide which battlefield to install