battlefield-2042

[pine roost]

Could do I suppose

[gloomy wyvern]

Remember if you want a bully people, just report them for unsupportive behavior. Dice will mute them until they are in a new session

No thought is put into the mute it's just an automatic mute

[wide shore]

That’s lame as hell

[eager monolith]

Or since im an active squad leader

When i keep holding q to mark an objective, the Q screen gets glitched and it wont stop being on my screen after stopping the hold

I cant press esc or anything else to close it

Gets me killed so much

Idk where to share clips

[warm stirrup]

Regular or boosters can post anywhere

[eager monolith]

Thats convenient

[warm stirrup]

Would y'all break the chain?

[spare quest]

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

Heroes 2 would make Battlefield a billion dollar franchise

[ivory canopy]

You must never break the chain

[mighty holly]

Free order for me and make the lad behind me pay

[ivory canopy]

Mastery 39 with the XCE

[mental blaze]

does nobody even play norhar canals tdm 24/7?

used to be a server back in season 2

[spare quest]

2042 noshar tdm is not as fun as in bf3

[mental delta]

I don't think it exists anymore

Or not populated as much at least

[mental blaze]

i can host ofc, still have the experience but not sure if ppl join

i just stopped hosting it and nobody did it again lol

[spare quest]

Bf3 noshar tdm servers are still popular in eu feelsgoodman

[mental delta]

Yeah but that's not that populated anyway

[mental blaze]

was always full

but since it was 48 players it wouldnt show on top of all

[karmic egret]

A morbillion dollars

[mental delta]

Nah stop here with Morbius jokes

[stone cradle]

Imagine if Geoff at game awards is so hyped and states EA and DICE are very proud to showcase the best Battlefield game in 2 decades and then it cuts to black and it's Heroes 2

I mean he isn't wrong...

[gloomy wyvern]

Hopefully I'm not the reason exposure gets taken out for a rework.....

Exposure is one of the only few maps that will never need a rework

[patent pivot]

925 when

[thorn yarrow]

But I love Irish's new voice line they're adding in the update where he says "It's morbin' time".

[patent pivot]

you don't get it, do you

[ivory canopy]

I got the T1 on XCE

[patent pivot]

not a bf3 veteran huh

and you skipped 3?

well trust me

that map was awesome

[ivory canopy]

It was a good map

[patent pivot]

scrap metal factory

and uhhh

ziba tower and

Donovan fortress

[copper ice]

why did they say they were going to make balance changes to engineers in the next update and then give crawford the smallest buff of all time and fix a fucking hazard zone bug for boris and nothing else

[patent pivot]

excluding CQC

because the game lacks it

[copper ice]

https://i.imgur.com/V3ehruE.png

[patent pivot]

and metro

there's no linear map design

[copper ice]

https://i.imgur.com/KSzHEF3.png

and nerfing the fucking rockets lol

we saw that people were primarily using the launchers for anti infantry use
instead of making them good enough to use against vehicles we're going to nerf their velocity despite advertising engineer as the class with long range options vs tanks

if you're getting sniped by a recoilless m5 then you deserve it because they're already gimping themselves by using boris/crawford

[spare quest]

#battlefield-2042 message

[pine roost]

It’s not going to change anything when it comes to sniping stationary infantry, and this nerf directly affects their ability to engage air and fast moving vehicles. Even I don’t see why this needed to happen

[copper ice]

they might want to specify that, given that this https://i.imgur.com/V3ehruE.png
specifically mentions engineer changes during redux. they're taking a real long time to make boris and crawford not awful lol

thanks for letting me know though, nice to know they DO understand that engies are underpowered

well, inb4 its just a nerf to lis

[copper ice]

i'm guessing judging by the buff to attack helis that it's an indirect nerf to fighting aircraft

[spare quest]

i hope not

[copper ice]

since everyone knows how bad the stinger actually is

i see most infantry kills on helis with the recoilless

[gloomy wyvern]

This is one thing I agree

[pine roost]

Now that’ll be slightly harder

[copper ice]

yeah

i think that was their goal

[pine roost]

Well their goal was to make it less effective against infantry

[gloomy wyvern]

@pine roost they don't need to delete heli flight assist, they just need to obliterate the stealth chopper

[copper ice]

i think they lied about that honestly

barely anyone is seriously using recoilless to snipe infantry

certainly not enough to nerf it based on that

[pine roost]

In either case they either forget that it would have an impact on taking out vehicles or they flat out lied and the intention IS to make it less strong against vehicles

[gloomy wyvern]

Never were

[copper ice]

yeah i think it's a flat lie to try and address something else that sounds worse on paper

[gloomy wyvern]

The only rocket that deserves a buff is lis

[copper ice]

if they have to say they're nerfing recoilless because people are using it to take out aircraft then people start asking why they aren't using the stinger, which makes people realise that the stinger is actually dogshit and needs a buff

[copper ice]

while they're on engineer only they all deserve buffs imo

[pine roost]

It’s just one of those goofy patch notes moments it seems

Most of it comes down to a poor choice of specialty gadget for the engineers Id say

[copper ice]

the only reason to use engie right now is either to wrenchmonkey friendly tanks or for the rockets

[lean lagoon]

ngl i do it for fun sometimes

its a better sniper than snipers

[pine roost]

You’ve got an automatic turret and a protected minigun, the turret especially has been through a lot to not make it annoying. One of those things that you can’t really balance as it’ll tip over the edge

[copper ice]

if you get sniped by a recoilless then its literally on you for getting hit by something with poodoo velocity

[lean lagoon]

to be fair though, anything is a better sniper than snipers

[copper ice]

the turret is basically the worst thing in the game so boris just has an empty slot, and the minigun is ass against vehicles

[gloomy wyvern]

I use lis to repair vehicles. Specifically air transport, just with the added twist of rockets flying at the guy that shot the transport

[copper ice]

so the dedicated anti vehicle classes have hero gadgets that are ass for actually being anti-vehicle

asides from lis which is why 80% of engies go lis

she gets rockets and c5/mines

the other two get rockets and their poo gadget

[lean lagoon]

anti vehicle is pretty garbage tbh

[pine roost]

But the thing is I don’t think they were ever meant to be anti vehicle specifically. To me engineer is just an all encompassing ‘uses some technological gadget of some kind’. I’ve always perceived the gadgets as anti infantry with the rockets being the main anti vehicle

[gloomy wyvern]

The rocket still does absolute shit. Fuck you mean that these rockets are decent

[copper ice]

which is why i'm in disbelief that they're nerfing it further this patch

[copper ice]

it's a shit rocket but she gets to take c5 as well as rocket

the other two engies have rocket OR c5

which is awful

[lean lagoon]

if the 1/4 of the server runs rockets, anti vehicle game is strong.
9/10 times its 1 or maybe 2 people.
the problem is the lack of class limits. everyone shouldnt be able to be an engineer or medic

because when you stack its op af. when you dont its almost worthless

[pine roost]

That’s just battlefield for you

[gloomy wyvern]

My argument is everyone should be a medic considering no one does the job anyway....

[copper ice]

if 1/4th of the server runs rockets then they lose because the engies are the worst heros in the game by a significant margin right now

boris is objectively the worst hero in the entire game

crawford is arguably the second worst

[ivory canopy]

Lis is decent tbh

[copper ice]

they are the only 2 with access to lock on launchers or dumbfire launchers

[lean lagoon]

ive only ever used the same 4 guys tbh

[pine roost]

Boris’ turret is useful at times I’ve found

[lean lagoon]

mackay, boris, ghillie suit dude, and i never play medic lol

[pine roost]

In specific scenarios mind you

[lean lagoon]

its useful in the sense that its annoyin af

[pine roost]

Well it’s free info

That’s about it

[lean lagoon]

when youre a tank and you got 2/3 turrets hitting you its really annoying

[pine roost]

Not necessarily for killing anymore

[copper ice]

lis at least has versatility with her open gadget slot, but the lack of lock on for her launcher means she can't synergise with soflam which is a big downside
she also cant quickfire it because she's forced to control every shot so even if she backs out as fast as possible she's standing still for about a second which is a long time when fighting vehicles up close

i have literally never gotten a kill with boris turret or been killed by it

[pine roost]

Me neither

[ivory canopy]

I've probably got like 3 kills with it

[pine roost]

But that’s not how I use it

[ivory canopy]

But only because I went for it

[patent pivot]

not forf me

[ivory canopy]

They should change Boris so that his personal perk is having an extra rocket for the launcher.

or an extra C5 if you wanna carry that.

[lean lagoon]

nah, make it 2 turrets

really up the annoying factor

[copper ice]

imo boris would be fixed entirely by making his turret serve the purpose of c5/AT mine by giving it high anti-vehicle damage at close range (and no longer targeting infantry) while making his passive be either extra launcher ammo or faster launcher reload

[ivory canopy]

2 useless turrets or one extra rocket for the RPG... hmmm...

[copper ice]

lis currently fulfils the role of anti air engineer by having a launcher that ignores flares

crawford fulfils the role of defence engineer by having higher repair speed and the shielded minigun

boris fulfils no role and is shit

[lean lagoon]

unlimited flares is just stupid bs and is the core problem of rocket launcher issues

[copper ice]

i think crawford sucks but he at least conceptually fits a role

boris just doesn't do anything

[pine roost]

Boris is who I go if I want to roam around witbout the intention of sticking near a vehicle

[willow sky]

crawford buffs

[copper ice]

you can just do that with crawford

there is literally nothing boris does that you can't do equally or better with crawford

[pine roost]

I just dislike how static his ability is

[copper ice]

i agree fully with this and it's why i think the rocket launcher velocity nerfs are stupid

[gloomy wyvern]

And no one runs with logic in this game. If they did every match would be a good match.

Example:
• Utilize Blasco to jam opponents and place beacons.

• Utilize Irish to prevent bombing runs and grenades while also providing ammo and revives

• Utilize Zain to flush opponents out from cover

[pine roost]

And the reason behind me using boris is simply to gather info so I don’t need to expose myself around a corner

[copper ice]

don't use crawford minigun as a minigun, use crawford minigun as a sideways irish barricade

[willow sky]

the perfect trio

[lean lagoon]

its not about logic. its about them trying to balance a class in a situation wherw there could be 1 engineer or 20 in a single match. its literally impossible.

[copper ice]

this is actually genius but also very sad that the only good thing the turret can do is be an awful version of the spotting drone lol

[gloomy wyvern]

I use it as it's intended. I'll explain it this way: LMGs and Gatling guns are not intended to get kills, they are intended to provide cover fire and make the opponent hide

[copper ice]

currently the only thing crawford minigun does is make you a much bigger target for explosives

or get shot in the ankles

[ivory canopy]

Or in the face if you're aiming right at them

[pine roost]

The last thing I want is for it to consistently kill people. I HATE auto aiming turrets in games with a passion. So it’s next best thing is to focus down on its spotting ability

[gloomy wyvern]

Their logic and balancing is assuming the most dramatic scenario. Such as 32 homing rockets.

Here I sit still waiting for the scenario to occur

[copper ice]

it's bad for both anti-vehicle and basically any anti-infantry role outside of tight corridors

[willow sky]

ur best bet is just tight corridors or "surprising" the enemy for a short while

[gloomy wyvern]

No, exposure is very good

[copper ice]

and those corridors rely on a friendly irish to trophy system you

[lean lagoon]

solution. do what they want to rockets and make lmgs damage air vehicles

[ivory canopy]

They should make it stronger (i.e: do more damage). There's already a strong delay before it fires at infantry (which isn't present against vehicles).

[gloomy wyvern]

Something I do every exposure match

[copper ice]

i agree that it being an auto turret was a terrible idea, but the issue is now we have an empty hero slot which is very bad when it's 1 of only 2 heroes with access to launchers

[ivory canopy]

OR...! better yet, give him two different sentry options: one for anti-infantry, and one for anti-vehicle.

[gloomy wyvern]

Solution: remove stealth chopper & nerf wildcat lock on range

[ivory canopy]

Keep the one-sentry limit, obv

[copper ice]

they don't like giving us options lol they removed 2 of squirrels 3 nades

[ivory canopy]

That's part of the problem

Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly, Boris sucks as a specialist.

[copper ice]

i'm really not looking forward to attack heli buff while anti-air for infantry is still as terrible as it currently is

even worse with the rocket nerf

[gloomy wyvern]

Because everybody kept abusing the absolute shit out of them. And then everybody was complaining that the community that absolutely despised those grenades was building good defenses to them. Hence why the trophy system is no longer placed on the ground, & is on a pedestal

[pine roost]

Honestly the speed nerf has me the most concerned, I was getting pretty good at lining up those rockets now I have to basically relearn

[copper ice]

the anti armour nade wasn't exactly good enough to abuse, it just added utlity in situations where you wanted to take out an enemy gadget or a little extra damage to a vehicle

it was really nice for taking out the notoriously laggy spotting drones

[pine roost]

The anti armour nade was admittedly just throw and forget. And it would just lock on to whatever

[copper ice]

the only counter to them now is a fucking stinger

no one is taking the stinger just to counter spotting drone

[pine roost]

Or the wildcat, which has its own slot don’t forget

Those 35s hit hard

[gloomy wyvern]

You couldn't say cluster grenade enough to understand how much of a fucking bitch that operator and every mother fucker that played them was

[copper ice]

if my wildcat is shooting at drones instead of helis then me being spotted isn't an issue as i have already been turned to red mist from 100m in the air

[copper ice]

that was the only grenade they didn't remove

:L

i used to actually like using anti armour nade, now i am forced into cluster spam

[gloomy wyvern]

Yet hysterically somehow we don't deal with the nightmare that the cluster grenade was

[copper ice]

seems to be in line with the current balancing

[pine roost]

You know what I miss

Just being able to place down a sentinel to delete nades that are on the floor, before the initial downtime was added

[ivory canopy]

Sundance is going to be a pain to T1

[copper ice]

trophy systems that actually defended you against infinite explosive spam?

wow it really was that LOL

[gloomy wyvern]

It was literally so bad of cluster grenade spam, that everyone attempting to abuse that system, pleaded / pledged so that Irishs trophy system would be nerfed

Because it was the literal only counter for the shit

[pine roost]

I still think it was wrong to call those changes ‘improvements’

[copper ice]

it was an issue being as strong as it was, but it was also literally the only counter

they just needed to add more ways of getting around it instead of giving it downtime

EMP nade going through it was a great change

that was all they needed

[pine roost]

I think that was another ‘rocket speed nerf’ type situation

[copper ice]

EMP nade and rockets going through trophy system gives it counters while letting it properly defend from explosive spam

instead they just stuck a time limit on it so people can brainlessly spam explosives and succeed

[pine roost]

At the time the main complaint was the camping vehicles, this was probably their attempt to fix that, but it just made regular infantry more annoying

[copper ice]

imo it did literally nothing to fix camping vehicles and just nerfed it heavily against infantry yeah

[gloomy wyvern]

I to this day, because they haven't nerfed the absolute fuck or completely obliterated the stealth chopper, utilize the trophy system to defend against bombs

I honestly believe everybody that spammed the absolute fuck out of those cluster grenades back then adopted the stealth chopper

It's literally cluster grenade 2.0. just with a little more flair on vehicles

[pine roost]

Those bombs are nutty I’ll admit

They’ve made like one change to them as far I can remember

[copper ice]

they refuse to nerf aircraft

idk why

the flares are horrendously OP

[pine roost]

We’ve been saying since launch that the duration and cool-down could do with some adjustments

[gloomy wyvern]

Aircraft as a whole is not the problem. The only problem is the stealth chopper but every mother fucker that adopted it defends it like it's their left or right nut.

[pine roost]

Even I, as someone who puts time into flying, think the duration is too long

[copper ice]

And then stealth choppers hate instadeath from lissiles

[pine roost]

But one thing about the new patch that has me curious, more so because of how vague it is, is the reduced sensitivity on helicopters

[copper ice]

so everyone is just pointing fingers

[pine roost]

They didn’t really make it clear as to what that means

It could mean literally nothing or a nerf to turn speeds

Which is rather important to know

[gloomy wyvern]

What makes it the most hysterical is Dice came out themselves, and get this they said "one lis rocket will take it out"

Did you hear that guy's? Dce said: "all you got to do is throw a paper plane with absolute no mobility and make it contact Spider-Man"

[pine roost]

[wide shore]

[ripe edge]

hello, the game gets stuck on the loading screen, does anyone know how to fix it?

[gloomy wyvern]

Power restart your system

[copper ice]

it feels awful to die instantly to it and it feels awful to throw things continuously into the air praying it hits

its the worst of both worlds

[gloomy wyvern]

At least you understood the analogy I was using

[copper ice]

Absolutely

Its horrible

[misty portal]

gamers not losing their collective minds over something dice kinda said challenge (impossible)

[copper ice]

Lis existing also screws with ground units due to ground vehicles being entirely unable to dodge lissiles

so they nerfed their damage to the extent they cant confirm kills, which also feels bad as lis

[pine roost]

I just view the lis rocket as a purely anti tank since I much prefer the speed of the gustaf. It’s ability to flank and leap over cover is stronk

[copper ice]

yeah but the lissile has poo damage vs ground vehickes

[gloomy wyvern]

That is until you find somebody like me defending a vehicle with the trophy system

But trust me I won't defend a lazy wildcat sitting in uncap, I'll grab the brawler and push the motherfucker out of it

[copper ice]

and a fucking awful recharge speed

and the fucking trophy syztem as well yeah

[pine roost]

I’d do the same

[copper ice]

there's no counter to an irish tanker

you just cant do anything

[misty portal]

can you put the trophy on a tank? asking for a friend

[pine roost]

A nightbird could take out the sentinels but getting into that airspace might be tough

[gloomy wyvern]

I got muted in game because someone reported me for unsupportive behavior.... Just let that sink in I wasn't even reported for language, I was reported for unsupported behavior and immediately got muted

There is no thought as to why the hell we need to mute this guy it was just instant

[wide shore]

Lowering the velocity of the rockets is a dumb change

[willow sky]

Genuinely, i've yet to come across someone actually using sentinel's for their vehicle

[wide shore]

Adding more vehicles to maps and then nerfing engineers in one fell swoop is, well, something

[misty portal]

the amount of trolling you'd have to do to be reported and even sanctioned in 2042 is immense lol

[gloomy wyvern]

Even that change won't be reliable, remember AI works on a hit scan manner and as long as you were in the path the rocket was going to be even if you were 600 ft away from the rocket; you're still going to die to it because the AI guy said I touched you

[gloomy wyvern]

Well what I do for lazy wildcats is, pin you then go on all chat and say the wildcat is pinned

Or I push you outside of the play zone until you are destroyed

One or the other

Either way the goal is to destroy the lazy wildcat and I know the absolute fuck out of them like they are to the opponent

[misty portal]

right you did nothing wrong and you were banned unjustly just like everyone else banned left coping.

[gloomy wyvern]

I seriously don't feel like I did anything wrong, I'm certain the opponents appreciated a little vigilante being on their side

[misty portal]

I'm sure you didn't at the time but turns out nobody wanted to hear it. learning opportunity, pal

[gloomy wyvern]

I've been perm banned from a portal because one guy was talking shit about how they were much better than I.

So I logically decided to stop lounging around and doing nothing and started taking objectives started actually playing the game.

To their surprise I surpassed them in every match after that then I proceeded to get muted and banned permanently

[patent pivot]

and this is why I prefer PvE

[pine roost]

From that server? Not the game as a whole I take it

[gloomy wyvern]

It was some random portal map that some guy created

[pine roost]

Ah yes, classic badmins

[gloomy wyvern]

I'm not banned from battlefield I'm just banned from that one guy's creation regardless of who hosts it

[misty portal]

didn't ask for your life story. getting life banned is a lot harder than not is all I'm saying. gj

[gloomy wyvern]

But here you are responding to it and reading it....

[pine roost]

I mean situations like that you just need to shrug off, admins are notorious for just banning people they see as better

Heck there’s a battlefield friends short on the topic lol

[radiant prism]

[misty portal]

in my defense queen I only read the first paragraph before discarding

[patent pivot]

just host your own and play by yourself

simple really

soon

[copper ice]

on one hand it is definitively griefing to corner your own teams vehicle and tell the enemy team exactly where it is
on the other hand, if they're an irish sentinel camping son of a bitch you're doing gods work

[misty portal]

and stop talking when no-one wants to hear it. simple as

unlike a discord most people who're on a bf server just want to play

[gloomy wyvern]

Thanks

[copper ice]

no one wants you to play wildcat/TOR camping on a hill with irish either but somehow that isn't a game offence

[pine roost]

I just looks boring to do

[copper ice]

sometimes you have to be a little vigilante

Its boring but irritatingly effective

[mental delta]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-pact-suicide-gif-20100078

[pine roost]

Cause most people do it, so they tend to let it happen or else people will complain it’s too hard to play any other way

[gloomy wyvern]

Every stealth chopper ever

They're afraid to get boots

[lean lagoon]

a literal 1/1000 people can fly the choppers effectively to be a genuine problem. removing stealth chopper changes nothing

[mental delta]

It's too hard to play it any other way

[pine roost]

But you have to admit the bombs are the easiest thing ever to land

[copper ice]

yeah but that 1 in a thousand consistently picks choppers

[lean lagoon]

cool. so what, 1 in 9 games you have to try extra hard to take down a chopper

[gloomy wyvern]

Removing the stealth chopper prevents bombing runs, abuse and abuse towards ground vehicles

The game was perfectly balanced before they brought it in

[copper ice]

1 in 9 games you will be spawn camped by bomb spam

[gloomy wyvern]

Maybe for you, but for me it's 10 out of 11 matches

[copper ice]

1 in 9 is already too high imo

[lean lagoon]

adding bullet damage to choppers and removing that dumb AP ammo solves that problem

[copper ice]

removing AP ammo would mean acknowledging that the alternate ammo system is incredibly poorly implemented and balanced

they will never do this

[gloomy wyvern]

That only introduces a solution that doesn't solve the problem. Because if we're going to be honest 2 out of 32 players are going to shoot at the stealth chopper with regular rounds

[lean lagoon]

the system is balanced fine to absolutely everything but peoples lazyness

[copper ice]

it's not balanced at all

[lean lagoon]

literally no one is equipping ap and even less are clickin the button to use it

[pine roost]

Which is the point

[copper ice]

higher mag size is objectively statistically better 90% of the time

AP is universally useless

[fervent rose]

AP ammo is almost entirely useless on anything not a ubgl

[gloomy wyvern]

On that note players shouldn't run at the speed of holding paper mache when utilizing a LMG

[misty portal]

remember that time you won because you had -.2 seconds reload time? never happened

[fervent rose]

every blue moon you'll have a vehicle at 2 hp and AP ammo will kill it

but that's rare as fuck

[copper ice]

subsonic is universally useless outside of roleplay or as a gimmick on pistols for increased range (pointless since deagle is king now)

close quarters ammo is worse on almost all weapons with an alternative outside of a couple of smgs

high power can be really good on some weapons as it hits certain breakpoints, but you have to look up a fucking google spreadsheet to find out this info as the game tells you absolute jack shit

[ebon pilot]

False

[copper ice]

for 90% of weapons you pick the biggest mag size

[gloomy wyvern]

Since dice is on this roll of fucking everything why don't we give them a new idea for a new dynamic to be introduced into the game....

Such as angel: when Angels loadout crate is near any vehicle, reload times are reduced by half

[pine roost]

Or rather:

[lean lagoon]

anti vehicle buildables.

[misty portal]

well fuck vehicles but also angel needs all the help he can get

[copper ice]

no muzzle flash is soooooooooooooooo niche its pointless

[pine roost]

If a loadout crate lands on a friends vehicle that hasn’t moved in several minutes it instakills them

[lean lagoon]

not like mines or shit, just barricades that stop/disable vehicles

[next onyx]

Only reason for picking subsonic is for slightly more damage range.

[copper ice]

you also have to either have time to swap to AP and reload (normally about 5 seconds) or already be running AP (why would you do this? why would you ever do this?)

[gloomy wyvern]

I like my idea of more, can you imagine wildcats firing 4 missiles before you get behind a mountain or other terrain....

[fervent rose]

yea half the times you'll just be dead switching in those instances

[ebon pilot]

It's honestly invaluable in a game where 2/3rds of the population is playing on a screen 5ft away. Plus if you're using heavy suppressors players don't get any damage notifications.

[copper ice]

lmg with AP theoretically could be decent against helicopters, in practical usage the reload times are fucking huge and they do barely any damage anyway

if youre using subsonic and heavy suppressors then you're shooting wet farts

use normal bullets and they'll die before they see the hitmarkers

[next onyx]

People don't notice unsuppressed fire anyway.

[gloomy wyvern]

What we need is dragon's breath for shotguns.....

[ebon pilot]

not if it's an SWS

[misty portal]

it's one of those things if you always going on flanks you'll die to the minimap every so often

[ebon pilot]

still only needs two shots

[lean lagoon]

ngl that shits worthless irl lol

[misty portal]

it's just impossible to know when you die because of the marker and when it's just random

[copper ice]

90% of average players dont see muzzle flash or hear gunfire, 9% hear gunfire and dont see muzzle flash, 1% sees muzzle flash and will kill you faster than you kill them with subsonic

[gloomy wyvern]

Well fortunately battlefield's not based on real life as everybody keeps reminding me when I like to mention the sofam. So we can definitely make it work here

[copper ice]

why would you pick velocity reducing attachments on a sniper rifle

[next onyx]

Snipers need velocity.

[pine roost]

If you are up close to the point where the velocity doesn’t affect it much I suppose

[gloomy wyvern]

Why would a 50 cal drop faster than cinder block dropped from the Eiffel Tower after it's been shot

[next onyx]

Don't understand the need to fuck that.

[patent pivot]

remember when sniper has zeroing distance

[copper ice]

heavy suppressor and subsonic on SWS makes it shoot bullets at the speed of throwing pebbles

[pine roost]

But I’ve never actively chosen a velocity reducing attachment

[next onyx]

AM round.

[mighty holly]

!!When will the AK-50 be in games

[tender pendant]

Soon™

[ebon pilot]

I play aggressive sniper roles, being able to get within 100-200m and afford to miss a few shots because skill issue is invaluable to me

[gloomy wyvern]

Let's use another analogy, to shoot somebody with a 50 cal in this game you have to look 180° away from your target then proceed to look 85° high from the natural zero degree view

[next onyx]

People will hear they're being fired at you do realise that. Regardless of ammo type.

I'm talking to pizza in that By the way.

[gloomy wyvern]

I wasn't referring to that, I was referring to how the bullet drops on a 50 cal in this game. It drops so drastically you have to look 180° away from your Target and then proceed to look 85° up

[next onyx]

Heavy AM round yes.

[misty portal]

is there even bullet drop in this game

[next onyx]

Honestly don't expect realism in battlefield.

[misty portal]

we're still talking about bf2042 right?

[pine roost]

I’ve not used the ntw all that much but it’s drop doesn’t feel that severe

[next onyx]

Assault rifles have such high velocities it doesn't really matter.

[gloomy wyvern]

Yes there is

[mighty holly]

20mm sniper rifle

[gloomy wyvern]

I gave up on expecting this

[copper ice]

default sws round has 760m/s velocity, heavy suppressor and subsonic is either 484m/s or 516m/s

thats super low for a bolt action

[gloomy wyvern]

I've actually adopted the ak-12 as a fucking sniper at this point

[misty portal]

yeah but it's very slight compared to other games. maps arent big enough for bullets to curve around the world

[pine roost]

Goodness me that is low

[copper ice]

like smg velocity

[gloomy wyvern]

Well the 50 cal surely acts like it

[pine roost]

Never using that combo then lol

[misty portal]

what's a practical optic for it?

[ivory canopy]

Well, I've got the T1 for every bolt action in the game right now so...

[next onyx]

Snipere have a more exacerbated drop to them.

[ivory canopy]

Doesn't affect me. xD

[copper ice]

high power and standard suppressor is 874m/s

[gloomy wyvern]

Go for the 10x, find a Target 383m out and proceed to line your scope up with the fourth dash on your scope with you being at a lower altitude than your target

Then proceed to watch the 50 cal drop instantly as it comes out the barrel as if you just tried throwing one bar of gold

[ivory canopy]

iirc the super heavy ammo actually drops less dramatically

But it's been so long since I got T1 for the NTW-50

[misty portal]

very detailed I'm not sure I can replicate that at will but I'll give it a try

[next onyx]

I just used the 6x thermal.

[mighty holly]

30mm sniper

[next onyx]

Cause its the scope type I'm most familiar with.

[pine roost]

Being that far out is the problem

[ivory canopy]

Thermals weren't even a thing when I T1'd the NTW.

[next onyx]

Chaos!

Oh yeah.

[ivory canopy]

But real talk, the NTW is actually best in CQB-mid ranges where it has the 1HK ability.

[next onyx]

I never touched them until rush xl.

[pine roost]

Why would you use the ntw that far out when it’s one shot range is close up

[next onyx]

Chaos actually breaks the balance kek.

[copper ice]

dont use the super heavy ammo for NTW, it no longer 1 shots people

[ivory canopy]

To snipe, and because you can

I meant, for sniping.

[copper ice]

god way that double minigun headshot

[pine roost]

Doesn’t chaos have some movement speed buff?

[copper ice]

[next onyx]

I forgot chaos was on so it made the velocity super fucked.

It does yeah.

[pine roost]

Might try that out again tomorro

[ivory canopy]

My next T1 will either be the PBX-45 or Super 500 (most likely the former)

[next onyx]

You can get used to the drop and dome some guy but you should just be abusing the OHK range.

[gloomy wyvern]

So what did you do here, did you trade 50cal projectiles for 22 projectiles with the same powder as a 50?

[copper ice]

if you're using NTW outside of 1hk range you'd be better off with any other sniper

[pine roost]

Making time for battlefield … I ought to get something to use to calm myself down when I ultimately get enraged

[next onyx]

No I just used the gun to its strengths instead of sniping people 300m away.

[misty portal]

yeah actually what's the point of the 50 cal

[pine roost]

Close range oneshot bodyshots

[next onyx]

AMR. Was broken at launch.

[pine roost]

That’s basically it

[next onyx]

But now it's a high risk high reward weapon.

[pine roost]

Isn’t the oneshot up to 100m now?

[gloomy wyvern]

The point of a sniper rifle is to engage the target further than assault rifles, SMGs and fuck it let's throw throwing knives into the mix

[next onyx]

If you're going to snipe people from 300m away you're best off using a DSR or the SWS.

[next onyx]

Yeah. 100 not 150 any more.

[pine roost]

If you can get a kill then why does it matter

[misty portal]

asking for a friend (for real this time) what does the arm hacking thing do?

[next onyx]

My dude. Stop using a fucking AMR to snipe people beyond its actual effective range.

[next onyx]

Emp affect.

[gloomy wyvern]

Because this game inaccurately represents the actual power of a 50 cal, so much so you could argue that devs never shot a 50 in their life

[pine roost]

Disrupts the hud, spots them for you and spreads said spot when you kill them

[misty portal]

right but I don't usually do vehicles. what does it matter to a driver or pilot to be hacked?

[pine roost]

Ever heard of a little thing called balance

[misty portal]

I mean my friend

[ivory canopy]

They can't use weapons, basically

[pine roost]

They cannot use weapons or countermeasures

[misty portal]

really? fully muted?

[pine roost]

Yup

[ivory canopy]

But they can still move

[gloomy wyvern]

Even if they did represent the actual power of a 50 in this game, the chances of you running into snipers are still so low it's irrelevant for balance to be a considering factor

[next onyx]

Yeah and I can spam fire the deagle and not break my fucking wrist. Nvm the fact you can change ammo types on the move.

[pine roost]

I abused it so hard when Rao could use it with a stinger

[misty portal]

pretty good ability then

[pine roost]

No clue how autocorrect managed to mess that up

[next onyx]

By the way. I'll say it again. I hope the plus menu comes back.

[ivory canopy]

Regular AP for CQB, HP for sniping (if you dare)

[wide shore]

Me too

[mighty holly]

That would be pog tbh

[next onyx]

Its the one thing in the game I don't have many problems with.

[pine roost]

Even for the simple fact that it allows for greater ammo reserves

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[copper ice]

way don't do this to me

[next onyx]

Kinda in a way.

Chunky please.

You need to trust me on this one.

I know you can.

[ivory canopy]

I think they should limit ammo types with the plus system, but allow multiple mag options for each ammo type.

[mighty holly]

poison ammo when

[copper ice]

i trust you but i don't trust dice to give us attachments actually worth swapping between

[misty portal]

what's the plus system, my friend asks

[ivory canopy]

Swap between normal combat optic and a thermal

[mighty holly]

Where you can switch attachments

[next onyx]

I like swapping between unsuppressed and suppressed.

[ivory canopy]

There's a good example

[pine roost]

If you don’t know what it is you’re missing out

[next onyx]

Swap attachments on the fly.

There are issues yeah.

[pine roost]

Basically, more ammo

[next onyx]

Though that's more inline with the balancing behind the weapon.

[robust vapor]

gotta appreciate Gustav before they nef its speed

[mighty holly]

ngl hate it when I have a scope that’s fully zoomed in and I can’t use its iron sights but with the plus it’s epic to do that

[pine roost]

It’s in line with the whole ‘let anyone do anything’ design philosophy the game shipped with

[misty portal]

can't we still switch attachments?

[next onyx]

@copper ice

Yes but this is during your life.

[copper ice]

being able to swap between standard optic and thermal is irritatingly strong, the main usage for plus system right now is cheesing extra ammo and having 15 under barrel grenade launchers

both of those are arguably unintended side effects of the system!

[gloomy wyvern]

I don't snipe with snipers, I use the ak-24

[fervent rose]

ive never actually done this that i can remember

[next onyx]

I remember when 3.2 came out assaults ammo perk extended to GL's.

[neon knoll]

if you guys dont mind answering how old are you @fervent rose@next onyx@copper ice

[next onyx]

I abused tanks hars with it.

[pine roost]

Was funny

[robust vapor]

what shoes are you wearing wtf

[next onyx]

Use the SCAR LOL.

[robust vapor]

that be illegal man the claymore didn't detect

[fervent rose]

too old for bf now probably

[next onyx]

Or the AC42.

[pine roost]

Days since way last recommended the scar : 0

[mighty holly]

Scar is indeed epic

[copper ice]

you literally got within disarm distance

[next onyx]

We're a dying breed.

[fervent rose]

you're a youngin

[next onyx]

I was talking to vanta about it and he said I was on the literal EDGE.

[pine roost]

Of glory

Don’t know how the rest of the song goes

[robust vapor]

Now go trigger the claymore without dying challenge

[copper ice]

25

[next onyx]

Quiet you. Higher ups don't like us in their games anyways.

[copper ice]

I was literally so mad at this

Such an incredibly obvious oversight

[pine roost]

It was a goofy oversight

[next onyx]

I thought it was cool but was nervous at the implications.

[pine roost]

Classic dice patch moment

[fervent rose]

im way over the edge then. but somehow im better at fps now compared to a decade ago

[copper ice]

You were walking around with like fucking 7 grenades per underbarrel

[next onyx]

Do you guys think it was an over sight considering how quickly it was removed?

[fervent rose]

100% an accident ya

[pine roost]

Stuff that are oversights tend to be focussed on rather quickly, especially ones that impactful

[next onyx]

I was more scared about the implications of HE GL's to be honest.

[pine roost]

Meanwhile stuff that is intended takes months to be reverted

[next onyx]

Ap gls though yes.

I wish gls shared an ammo capacity. Starting at 3 maxing out at 5, firing all of them left you completely out.

There are times where I need AP.

Hey I haven't used my 40mm HE for a while come to think of it.

I need to use it again.

[robust vapor]

You'll have the most fun in the tight spot for HE in reclaimed

[fervent rose]

i like having 6 instant dozer kills per spawn

[robust vapor]

that choke point in the small base

[ivory canopy]

Did they fix the bug where getting kills with the AEK GP-30 buck credited the M416?

[next onyx]

Erm. I don't think so.

[ivory canopy]

oof

I have an entire video that outlines it, or at least highlights it

[fervent rose]

but scar having 9 gl on spawn is pretty silly

[copper ice]

This would be how it worked if dice could program

[next onyx]

They looked into it with ammo capacities.

At one point.

[copper ice]

i find it very difficult to use any weapon that doesnt have access to triple GL due to sheer utility

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that's why I haven't been using 40mm gl, because of 40mm incendiary.

During the dozer meta.

[fervent rose]

why not both

[next onyx]

Because I need people to burn.

[fervent rose]

well yea i mean burn and explode

[next onyx]

Did what cy did I set my plus menu to my mouse. I need to quickly switch between my primary gl and secondary gl on the fly.

[fervent rose]

and for whatever reason now he gl turbo fucks dozer

[next onyx]

Oh yes.

[copper ice]

?!

[next onyx]

That is good.

[fervent rose]

6 dozer kills per spawn

[next onyx]

Lemme guess the gl goes through his shield?

[copper ice]

u fucking what

[fervent rose]

HE instagibs

same as incen

[copper ice]

what happened to the shield and the explosive resistance

[next onyx]

How? Explosion or direct impact?

[fervent rose]

i actually dont know why it works

cause he can take a tank shell

just dice things

[robust vapor]

Definitely direct impact

[copper ice]

grenade launcher shell clearly goes through the shield

transwarp properties

[fervent rose]

idk if it actually does or not

i think it explodes on the shield and he insta dies

[lean lagoon]

ngl dozer not being phased by rockets is the stupidest thing

[copper ice]

it shouldn't even work that way with his explosive resistance

[lean lagoon]

idc if it stops the explosion, dudes arm would shatter regardless lol

[fervent rose]

again i dont get it, but ive bopped a few dozers with HE GL to the face

[next onyx]

Oh yes.

I feel as if it isn't so important any more because he doesn't have the crazy range.

[misty portal]

I think I speak for all of us when I say that dozers should g[redacted]

censorship again f off

[ivory canopy]

Shield should not be an instakill imho. Maybe do heavy damage?

[misty portal]

or maybe it should require more of a wind-up

[ivory canopy]

Also why doesn't Dozer get to have a unique melee takedown where he bodyslams his enemy with his shield?

[lean lagoon]

the concept of an invulnerable shield that instakills is about as stupid as a helicopter with 2 million flares

at the very least explosives should cause the shield to be dropped

[ivory canopy]

Or send him flying like Mini-Me from Austin Powers Goldmember when Austin kicks him across the room.

[next onyx]

If the shield wasn't a OHK and instead provided cover for the team there'd be less frustration.

[copper ice]

if we still had the ragdoll from bfv i wish it could do that

[next onyx]

More cover.

Hey chunky what do you think of weaponised oil tankers in battlefield.

[misty portal]

like if le shield man is looking at you there's no counter play

[fervent rose]

no there is because most of them are slow players

[misty portal]

so what still can't damage the shield

[fervent rose]

well you just swap to your 6 grenades for an instagib

scar stays winning

[ivory canopy]

Or juke him

[copper ice]

I would love weaponised oil tankers

[fervent rose]

juking him is also a certified classic

[copper ice]

juking seemed to have a low success rate when i was dozering and that was prebuff

[misty portal]

well some times le shield man engages in narrow corridors where you have limited freedom of movement

[fervent rose]

in those instances you have to full commit or full disengage

[misty portal]

full commit how?

[fervent rose]

run toward him at a slight diagonal and hope he's bad at timing

jump peeking around the shield also works

slide under his side also works

[misty portal]

yeah but what if they're just an average person with motor skills that don't warrant hospitalisation?

[copper ice]

murder

[fervent rose]

avg players die a lot

you want to win, dont be avg

[misty portal]

point is shield wins and we do better by not being in shield range thanks useless chatters

[fervent rose]

shield does not auto win unless you stumble around a corner into a prefired melee

[misty portal]

stopped caring about this

[fervent rose]

👍 cool

[copper ice]

shield is good in very small areas

2042 has about 5 of these

[misty portal]

speaking to a breakthrough legend here

[fervent rose]

i play as much stranded as i can given we have no server browsers

dozer isn't a worry of mine ever

thats his best map and i still dont care about him on it

[misty portal]

stopped caring about this actually

[copper ice]

breakthrough is where hes even worse because of constant explosive spam and people ready to shoot your asscheeks from every angle

he's sick in rush though

[upbeat sand]

🍞

[misty portal]

he's got the explosive mitigation perk yo

[copper ice]

i used to think that was awesome and then i learned that 50% less of infinity is still infinity

i hate explosives my ass

[ivory canopy]

We need an emote for Angel's "THAT WAS SOMETHING! RIGHT?!" face.

[willow sky]

guess i'll play bf2042 again
bf2042:

[misty portal]

unlucky

[slate meadow]

I've had the worst hitreg issues recently

Where im shooting somebody middle of body and I'm not getting any hit markers ?

[hasty rampart]

Same

[thorn yarrow]

Any day my boi

[harsh edge]

I am a little bit shocked. Downloaded the game after a big break and joined all game modes (non-cross-play) on PC and only find empty lobbys. Is it dead?

[mighty holly]

Enable crossplay

sadly that is the way

[copper ice]

99.9% of players use crossplay

[frozen loom]

I tried matchmaking without crossplay and it never got a lobby.

[robust vapor]

[frozen loom]

[robust vapor]

[frozen loom]

Sometimes you have to dab on life.

[robust vapor]

Can't wait to use this on you @frozen loom

The new 2042 SMG

[frozen loom]

[robust vapor]

[frozen loom]

[robust vapor]

n0

[frozen loom]

[wide shore]

I can’t wait to play engineer on Tuesday.

[frozen loom]

So you can play the new rockets that shoot at the speed of Bullet Bill from the Super Mario games?

[robust vapor]

Pew

[frozen loom]

They should just make rockets take 2 minutes to hit anything.

And make vehicles go at the speed of supercars.

[gray comet]

So what am I supposed to do as a jet once there’s no hostile aircraft remaining?

[frozen loom]

Crash it into the ground.

[gray comet]

Su-57 with 25mm/Radar guided

So I cant really fight the persistently irritating EBAAs

Do I just be a dick to infantry until another helicopter arrives?

[frozen loom]

Being a dick to infantry will just perpetuate the community to hate vehicles more.

Go after ground vehicles.

[robust vapor]

I'd switch to 30mm explosive

F35 can trash EBAA in hover mode

[gray comet]

30mm sucks in my experience

Overheats too fast, too inaccurate

[robust vapor]

Against infantry yeah

[gray comet]

Bad for Air to Air especially

[robust vapor]

But if you stealth on ground vehicles while hovering you can perma harass them

[gray comet]

Yeah

[robust vapor]

Unless some moron cockblocks you

[gray comet]

Right now Im hitting them as fast as I can in the F35

With rocket pods or atgms

But I dont know how much damage they do per hit

[robust vapor]

Rocket pods good for both infantry and vehicles

I managed to destroy a wildcat cunt on my F35 before with just the 30mm

Them shitheads are just annoying

[gray comet]

oh wow, you dumped another missile at me and im going to deploy flares, again. for the nth time this match, you still haven't hit me, great work AA!

they are more of a reminder that there is an enemy team than an actual threat 90% of the time I feel

[frozen loom]

Feels like most times aircrafts are too scared to pick fights against ground vehicles and rather take the easy way out with carpet bombing infantry.

[gray comet]

Depending on the scenario yeah

If you’re by my squad yes expect rockets very soon

But also dumping the same rockets onto tanks is more rewarding

[robust vapor]

Your more perilous threats are infantries

with Recoilless or RPG

Especially if you hover

[gray comet]

yeah

or Lis

its veeeeeery easy

even I can do it

[frozen loom]

I can't do it.

[robust vapor]

I don't like Lis cause I can't have both launchers

her gadget and another launcher of choice

:C

[frozen loom]

[robust vapor]

[calm bison]

30mm on jets is stinky

Slow RoF

Awful spread

Overheats too quickly

[robust vapor]

Not meant for engaging in combat head on

[calm bison]

That’s too damn bad

When you’re in a jet you have to maximize full potential

25mm shreds jets, infantry, light vehicles, and choppers

And it’s got a tighter spread

And it’s better

In like every way

[robust vapor]

Well what's your purpose of using the jet for?

[calm bison]

Hunting vehicles

[robust vapor]

They give you choices, and you choose

[calm bison]

I go after air targets like enemy jets

And then other air targets like choppers and gunships

Then I move to tanks or infantry

Then the first three respawn

And the cycle repeats

[robust vapor]

The aircrafts have different set up for different purposes.

Pros and Cons

Different pilots, different playstyles.

[calm bison]

Rocket pods are a generally good all-rounder

They do tons of damage to air vehicles

Namely jets

They’re decent against tanks

And can be potent against large amounts of infantry

[robust vapor]

Wonderful, that's just you.

But I can't and won't speak for other people.

[calm bison]

I just find that as a jet it’s more fulfilling when I focus on elements that are a detriment to my team

Unlike some people who use jets as a fucking air taxi

[robust vapor]

It's all depends on how determined you are as a pilot

[calm bison]

Pretty determined

[robust vapor]

Keep your team safe from enemy vehicles

[calm bison]

I think that if you’re going to be in a jet then you should focus on finding ways to maximize killing potential and help your team against obstacles

[robust vapor]

That's all you had to do

[calm bison]

It’s a lot easier for your team to take a point when the stealth chopper sweat is preoccupied with you

[robust vapor]

Helicopters are usually at an altitude disadvantage when you're on a higher altitude

[calm bison]

Not on all maps

[robust vapor]

They would have to be facing downwards to have you on their crosshairs

[calm bison]

Pretty sure Flashpoint has the same flight ceiling for jets and choppers

[robust vapor]

Which in turn pulls them down towards the ground due to gravity

[calm bison]

TBH the only choppers I truly despise are nightbirds since they’re really squirrelly and can be hard to hit with a jets cannon

Regardless of caliber

[gray comet]

lmao

[robust vapor]

Nimble you mean

[calm bison]

Same thing

[gray comet]

I spawned in a Condor the exact second it got destroyed, ended up parachuting out of bounds into enemy uncap?

[calm bison]

It happens

[robust vapor]

The stealth chopper is much more annoying

Get a competent gunner and he can EMP your vehicle

[calm bison]

Distance advantage

The 25mm can spray from quite the distance and they’re much less confident when they’re taking streams of damage

It also helps that the chopper glass isn’t bulletproof so who knows

You might kill a pilot

[robust vapor]

Flares won't save the target from EMP too

On top of disorienting the pilot itself

[gray comet]

You can get the occasional headshot through the cockpit glass with some consistency

[calm bison]

I’ve done it a few times with nightbird pilots recently

[gray comet]

Only landed it on a Ka52 myself

[winged gyro]

possible to change teams in solo/coop?

[cloud depot]

Have y’all ever felt lonely when you pilot a condor and no one wants to spawn on you?

I did, flying for straight 3 mins by myself.

[warm stirrup]

Were you flying over enemy flags? Lol

[cloud depot]

Flew all over the map, got some kills by hovering the condor and switching to gunner quick

[quiet swallow]

Anyone know what Im missing I have stuck on the screen with mountains for quite some time now (23.7 hours steam never once enters an actual game)

[warm stirrup]

To be fair most pilots use gunships to travel to a location then jump out so I see why nobody spawns on them

Nobody likes switching to pilot last second with no flight experience

[willow sky]

i am da master of driving the CAV and MAV

grrr i hate anti tank mines grrrrr

@robust vapor praise me

[robust vapor]

🍪

here

[willow sky]

ty

[frozen loom]

[neon knoll]

bro think he tate

bro think he third brother of tate

bro (sentence)

@misty briar

[ebon pilot]

though when you do have flight experience it's a lot of fun grabbing controls at the last moment and getting out

[thorn yarrow]

Cromch

[ocean badger]

How do you use the hybrid scopes?

There always on max zoom for me

[tacit sphinx]

on console the default is press the right stick

*while ADS

[ocean badger]

👍

[pine roost]

Which is funny when you snipe out the pilot and watch it just fall to the ground

[warm stirrup]

Where pilot go?

[lilac linden]

On PC it’s the F button, console is click in the right stick. While ADS as pointed out above. 👆

[fickle wharf]

anyone know where i would get spearhead map music n season 3 menu music?

[pine roost]

Unfortunately I don’t think any of the post launch tracks have been officially published anywhere

Might be able to find a YouTube vid though

[fickle wharf]

Damm guess i need to convert a video then

[lone void]

Good morning, fellow idiots

How do you fix the game files on PC? Asking for a friend.

I know it's an older issue

[mental delta]

Wow back up dude

[lone void]

Oh sorry, just me then

[mental delta]

It's ok I'm definitely one of the idiotic ones, it's just that other lads may not appreciate it

[lone void]

Alrighty

Back to my question

Game files broke ): and my friend can't play

Does he have to reinstall or is there another way

[mental delta]

Just reinstall it's gonna be way more easy

[lone void]

Okie

Thank you

[mental delta]

No problems

[blazing ibex]

Did tanks get nerfed?

I haven’t played in some months

And shells seems to hit infantry like nerf darts

[fickle wharf]

could have just verified files on steam

[mental delta]

They've always been shit in this game buy I don't think they got needed

[mental delta]

I don't play on PC bro

[blazing ibex]

They just seem so damn weak

[fickle wharf]

meme with staff shells

[blazing ibex]

You have to direct hit the infantry to kill

[fickle wharf]

need a buddy with soflam tho

[blazing ibex]

and we need more damn maps

[mental delta]

Yeah I just recalled rn that they may have reduced explosive spam radius, tanks are basically weak against other vehicles and now they're weak against infantry too

[blazing ibex]

Yeah, I seemed to feel it

They feel so garbage now

[mental delta]

Yeah it's sad when you compare to previous games

They were somehow the best vehicles

Now they're weak

[warm stirrup]

They're nerfing launchers on Tuesday

[blazing ibex]

Like it takes two splash hits to kill one enemy

And direct hit to one shot someone

[warm stirrup]

Direct impact for full damage

[blazing ibex]

Well that’s stupid

You wouldn’t see tanks sniping someone irl

[warm stirrup]

Lots more air vehicles too on Tuesday

[blazing ibex]

Aiming for their body

Poor battlefield, they are destroying vehicles

Turning it into cod

[warm stirrup]

Up to 3 attack helicopters and 2 jets

[blazing ibex]

But nerfing launchers?

[warm stirrup]

Yup

[blazing ibex]

So they fuck the game up

Cause the AA tank also sucks now

[fickle wharf]

use heat if you wanna blast inf

[blazing ibex]

And launchers will suck

And MPAT suck too

Against vehicles

[fickle wharf]

nope

[blazing ibex]

From what I experience they do

A simple transport SUV takes 3+- shells

The damn gunner with TOW deals more damage

[warm stirrup]

They're removing transport vehicles too from some maps

[blazing ibex]

Weird

[frozen loom]

Like the Condor?

[blazing ibex]

They shouldn’t remove them

Just remove the canon and upgrade the anti air defense

Since currently mi 240 just feels like a gunship

[frozen loom]

Make the troops move down a lift, so they are easier to snipe.

[blazing ibex]

No thanks

[frozen loom]

I welcome the change.

[blazing ibex]

But why would they do that tho

[frozen loom]

Because fuck vehicles.

[blazing ibex]

Go play CoD then?

Like what

Altering/removing vehicles too much in this games simply makes it a bad COD clone

[frozen loom]

Buffing them makes it a bad World of Tanks clone.

[mossy badge]

Bro removing what vehicles from battlefield 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[blazing ibex]

But Battlefield had it first

So no

Battlefield 1942

Tanks

[frozen loom]

CoD had specialists before Battlefield, so yes.

[blazing ibex]

Guess what, they removed that

Cause it sucked ass

[mossy badge]

Cod had ads before battlefield too

[frozen loom]

Treyarch hasn't made another game yet, so we can't say if they removed specialists yet.

[warm stirrup]

They gave a few examples

[blazing ibex]

I am talking about classes

[mossy badge]

Cod did 200 players game mode before battlefield too

[blazing ibex]

Battlefield does not have specialist in 2042

[mossy badge]

Max is 128

[frozen loom]

I'm talking about heroes.

Ops.

Legends.

[mossy badge]

Gunship

[real willow]

bf4's conquest has more vehicles than 2042's why...

[frozen loom]

Because BF4 has actual weapons to take them out.

[real willow]

..

[blazing ibex]

BF4 had actual good vehicles

[frozen loom]

[blazing ibex]

Not pea shooting tanks

[frozen loom]

BF4 had foodtrucks?

Meals on wheels.

[warm stirrup]

They're also reducing the speed at which the recoilless rocket fires

[mossy badge]

Ice cream

[frozen loom]

[blazing ibex]

Ruined game fr

This is why bf 2042 costs like 5 dollars

Cause they took a big dump on it

[mossy badge]

[blazing ibex]

Like damn, I’d say even Fortnite makes tanks better than Dice does

[upbeat sand]

Hi

[warm stirrup]

It'll be harder to destroy tanks with the launcher nerf lol

[blazing ibex]

So it’s shit vs. shit fight

Play dough launcher vs pea shooter tank

Battle of the ages

[upbeat sand]

I wonder how the extra vehicles are gonna play like

[frozen loom]

The new meta will be just to ignore vehicles completely as infantry.

[blazing ibex]

Vehicles already get mutilated

[fickle wharf]

[warm stirrup]

Extra air vehicles

[blazing ibex]

Cause as soon as you spawn 50 launchers are looking for you

[warm stirrup]

Less land vehicles

[frozen loom]

That's a hard no. Engineers are so overlooked.

[blazing ibex]

Anti Air in this game is also a joke

[upbeat sand]

I just hope it dosent mean 3 nightbird S200 at the top

[frozen loom]

All lock on weapons are jokes.

[blazing ibex]

They suck

Big time and are useless

[warm stirrup]

@upbeat sand

[frozen loom]

If an aircraft is shitting on your team, I recommend just quitting the match.

[blazing ibex]

I remember one match

Some heli pilot went 100-0

Cause Anti Air launcher are as good as a knife

[upbeat sand]

Sad that less civillian vehicles now

My tuk tuk

[amber ingot]

All it is , is that dipshits still cant read and figure out wildcat is an AA , so they just use it as a LAV and fuck everybody else over

[fickle wharf]

remove the 40mm from it

[blazing ibex]

Facts

What is even the purpose of it

Cause the 40mm sucks ass now

No splash damage

Only direct hits do damage

[amber ingot]

to me the whole vehicle system was a failure

They wanted to change it and they fucked it

Like most of the game

[blazing ibex]

They should adopt the Battlefront 2 system

Where battle points are required to spawn one

So idiot’s actually play the game and not sit in menu camping vehicles whole match

[amber ingot]

I see your point

[frozen loom]

They should make it so everyone in vehicles are in shock cages which depletes their life every second to discourage camping.

Like, 3 damage per second.

[blazing ibex]

But no damage when moving?

[frozen loom]

1 damage per second when moving.

[blazing ibex]

The fuck

By the time you get from spawn to the objective you’re dead

[frozen loom]

That way you're not in vehicles 24/7.

That's why you get out of the vehicle, wait until your regen activates and heals you, then jump back in.

[blazing ibex]

Bad idea imo

Sounds like a cod kill streak

Where you get x seconds then die

[frozen loom]

There's a timer on CoD, so you don't spend the entire game in your AC-130 getting 100 kills per match.

[warm stirrup]

Second chance

[blazing ibex]

Cause COD is a boots on the ground game

Battlefield is not

[warm stirrup]

Last stand

[frozen loom]

Battlefield has become butts in your cockpit.

[blazing ibex]

Always has been

Wdym

That’s what made it good

[frozen loom]

That's World of Tanks.

[blazing ibex]

World of Tanks came after Battlefield

Wdym

[frozen loom]

Now, Battlefield wants to go after the idea of perma-vehicle usage.

Sneaky to go after newer game trends.

[blazing ibex]

What

There’s BF3 too

Where vehicles were a gig part too

[warm stirrup]

Y'all see delta force?

https://youtu.be/Egf5LcYgXKc?si=D46aI789OO1I4bjq

[amber ingot]

bf2042 is jusr copy and paste cod warzone

[blazing ibex]

Yes

But made worse

[fickle wharf]

this aint it chief

[warm stirrup]

Delta force looks like the next battlefield imo

[fickle wharf]

tencent

free to play

cod mobile devs

[warm stirrup]

Can't be worse than 2042 lol

[mental delta]

Idk what's wrong about it

[blazing ibex]

Delta Force looks like CoD and Battlefield copied into one game

Nothing unique

[amber ingot]

Looks a bit more milsim focused

[blazing ibex]

It looks like Battlefield if it’s brother was CoD

[fickle wharf]

how is that milsim

[blazing ibex]

I’ve seen more milsim Roblox games

[upbeat sand]

Ok

So

Turnout

Dozer's 10% blast resistance also counts melee

so

3 shot

[empty breach]

Im super crazy hyped about it

I literally played my first delta force game when i was 4

I fkin loved every single delta force game

[granite island]

Oh it's cool, I'll definitely play it

Don't really understand the cod mobile devs argument

When cod mobile is 10x better than normal cods

Except for the spin the wheel for ultra cosmetic blueprint

[warm stirrup]

Content wise cod mobile wins by miles too

[granite island]

Also I think the old delta force fans working on the game know what they're doing.

If they want gadgets they get gadgets

Or specialists

[copper ice]

it already is