battlefield-2042

[hard geyser]

The map looked like a bf5 map.

[granite island]

It might still be day, I can see white something in the sky in the clip

[silver meteor]

This ain't a bad thing!

[remote kiln]

clarity on what the open section actually looks like

[sharp swift]

more info later. its better than promising features that they cant add and over promising

[robust aspen]

Either small team or dice is abandoned but it's most likely everyone is already on the next game but at this point I don't believe anything they say let alone if people are still working there.

[naive quiver]

♻️♻️ season 6

[calm bison]

A DICE dev on social media literally said its a fun one. If there was more than one map they would’ve said that they’re fun ones

Plural

[stone cradle]

This dev update really made me say: "Wow, that's really battlefield". So I guess that's what they meant

[onyx zephyr]

battlefield ripmy20£40

[calm bison]

They would’ve used plural text

But they didn’t

They were singular

[nova idol]

I dont think anyone should be surprised that 2042 is on the backburner considering everything

[heady shoal]

? That looks like AI compiled human memory

[onyx zephyr]

Im guessing by that they meant over hyping and dissapointing

[robust aspen]

Bro what else do you think they can say they know it sucks

[pine roost]

this video said singular

[iron delta]

how r your knees?

[stone cradle]

they spend so much time fixing the poor foundations of the game that they end up adding very little new content

[sharp swift]

what are they refering to the season the map the gun

[stone cradle]

[calm bison]

We’re not talking about guns or seasons

[sharp swift]

i ate my knees

[robust aspen]

Fix...

[calm bison]

We’re talking about map count per season

[hard geyser]

The map looks dope but the way they just tried to excite me for events that already passed has me so upset with my favorite game. But oh well

[calm bison]

They are adding one new map in Season 6

One

[stone cradle]

just like BF4 and V. Very battlefield indeed

[calm bison]

And no evidence that they are adding a second one has been provided

[remote kiln]

ain't no way people are surprised 2042 support is nearing its end

[sharp swift]

you just said "they said its a fun one"

[calm bison]

Yes

One

[remote kiln]

come on all of you fix your expectations

[calm bison]

As in one map

[heady shoal]

Wait allready?

[solar tinsel]

What I woud just like to know from DICE is what happens when you unlock Redux reward you've already purchased from the store in the past?

[next isle]

right?

[onyx zephyr]

I feel like them announcing nothing actually new for the "future of battlefield 2042" makes me think there isn't really a "long road ahead" and we've just been swindled by marketing talk to buy the battlepass in hopes theres more to come

[robust aspen]

I'd wish at this point the update would announce that it's finished not this crap

[stone cradle]

people really thought next map would be naval focused

and then the s6 map looks to be far from that

[hard geyser]

Not really surprised. Just thought they'd keep the content so least consistently coming til the new bf.

[sharp swift]

they could that map is fun and could be adding more

you dont work there

how do you know

[remote kiln]

like this is stupid as if DICE are going to ramp up content support for a game on its last end

this community never ceases to amaze me

[onyx zephyr]

thank god I dont want to be spawn camped by boat bitches

[idle trail]

Possible jungle map it looks like ?

[calm bison]

The person asked the dev phrased the question like they were adding one map

[hardy crest]

ididnt watch the dev update yet nor trailer , but plz from general atmosphere we W or L ?

[stone cradle]

yeah looks like a bfv pacific map

[sharp swift]

they said snowy

[calm bison]

If they were adding more the dev would’ve corrected them

[hardy crest]

ididnt watch the dev update yet nor trailer , but plz from general atmosphere we W or L ?

[calm bison]

Where is the snow

[remote kiln]

watch the trailer lol

[stone cradle]

Imagine if it's wake island

[remote kiln]

it's not that hard

[idle trail]

Interesting

[onyx mica]

let's go!

[sharp swift]

said snowy

[hardy crest]

cant

[calm bison]

WHERE

[hardy crest]

cant now but i want , busy rn in meetingh XD

[jovial minnow]

hmmm

[pine roost]

it's just melted

[remote kiln]

if you have enough time to sit here and chat you can watch the trailer

[calm bison]

WHERE IN THE GAMEPLAY THEY SHOWED IS SNOW

[hardy crest]

jsut fucking say dude its W or L lol ok nvm u dont want to say

[sand jewel]

WAIT WHAT HAPPENED

[calm bison]

Snow doesn’t exist in a jungle environment

[hardy crest]

will watch

[sand jewel]

New season stuff? Must find

[calm bison]

We got the most disappointing dev update ever

[pine roost]

just a map tease

[sharp swift]

wait my bad i got chilling confused with snowy

lol

[idle trail]

Gotta watch it again

[sand jewel]

Pffft

[pine roost]

as well as the old limited time modes coming back

[remote kiln]

one part has been announced

we haven't seen everything yet

[robust aspen]

If these 6 weeks only lead you to dice adding one map and few guns and attachments they didn't do anything well

[sand jewel]

We have not? Ok that’s a bit of a relief

[knotty spade]

If you think that the next title stand a chance, you’re in the wrong path

[sharp swift]

@calm bison this is what i mean

im just bad with words

[remote kiln]

tldr

season 6 delayed till October
redux mode is integrating for the past events
one map has been revealed for S6, nothing else so far

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-popcorn-eating-gif-18107571

[remote kiln]

that's all

[mossy badge]

In which season they added thermal?

[sharp swift]

so far

[remote kiln]

yeah so far

[calm bison]

While this is true it is severely unlikely we will be getting more than one map for this season

[remote kiln]

why are you repeating me

[nova idol]

DICE/EA hasnt learned anything, if you arent happy with 2042 you need to get off the train now

Just to be honest

[idle trail]

Ya looks like a jungle map 😆

[sand jewel]

I mean, I went back to BFV and it was super fun. Might try hopping back into BF1 today

[pine roost]

we won't, shrimple as that. It was singular in the trailer so I don't get why people took that to mean multiple

[still vault]

To be far. The first announcements about a new season has been short and only contained a few things. Been like that for 6 seasons now.

[glossy lava]

i need urban map

[remote kiln]

^

[sharp swift]

idc if they add one map Ill still play

[calm bison]

The chances of getting a new map are one in a krillion

[nova idol]

Its unlikely that we will get more than one map for any 2042 season

[remote kiln]

like hello season 5 folks come on

jesus

[glossy lava]

ive had enough with flat natural maps

[nova idol]

EA is already making a new BF, at least conceptually

[calm bison]

This is set in a geodesic dome

[sharp swift]

yes we need verticality

[pine roost]

all in all this was about the redux event

[hardy crest]

watched trailer didnt undsetand anyshit except s6 new map

[pine roost]

which I think is pretty neat

[robust aspen]

"accept or don't buy"

[onyx zephyr]

dev updates are usually 6-10 minutes and this was a 90 second trailer

[sharp swift]

dice please add

[glossy lava]

i need a map set in a city or something

[stone cradle]

I wanted an urban map

[hardy crest]

so we will have s7

[nova idol]

I mean yeah thats accurate

[hardy crest]

?

[calm bison]

I was expecting an update to what will come after S6

[glossy lava]

packed with buildings

[hardy crest]

will be there s7

[calm bison]

I was expecting to learn what will happen to 2042 after that

[lilac dust]

That requires effort. We're dealing with DICE here

[mighty holly]

Was the trailer really a minute long

[remote kiln]

do you want a Dev update of filler (nothing) to make up the time allocation instead?

[hardy crest]

same i wish there will be s7 and s8

[onyx zephyr]

all the maps have verticallity because of mackay and sundance so Im sorry but youre gonna hate the next bf when theyre not there

[stone cradle]

I guess the skeleton crew could only do so much

[sharp swift]

oh thats what you mean

[stone cradle]

Most resources going to BF6 I guess

[sharp swift]

thats good

[pine roost]

I mean that's just logical

[still vault]

The seasons have a short trailer. The dev talks are something different.

[glossy lava]

if they fuck up the next bf

[robust aspen]

You're really defending dice here on this "dev update"

[glossy lava]

its over

[remote kiln]

there ain't no way people are like oh I was expecting to hear about past season 6 when season 6 hasn't even been revealed yet

[pine roost]

they've revamped so much of the base game there isn't much more to do

[glossy lava]

they 20 years of blueprint

[remote kiln]

what am I defending lol

[sharp swift]

it joever

[onyx zephyr]

I want an actual dev update like the last ones since theyve been over hyping this "long road ahead" so much

[onyx zephyr]

then whyd they tease it as one?

[sharp swift]

a first look

[nova idol]

2042 is running on fumes until the next game comes out, and I wouldnt expect the next BF to be different than 2042 by a lot

[remote kiln]

I'm defending nothing

[glossy storm]

Could tell a lot about the new map... from the 2 seconds of footage that they showed.

[remote kiln]

im making fun of all your false expectations

[calm bison]

While not everything has been revealed, I’m not going to hold my breath for content that’s going to be on par with the content delivered in prior seasons

[stone cradle]

Probably the last chance DICE has. They did get a string of bad luck with 2042 with bad leadership.

[wide shore]

I wasn’t expecting that, but yeah. That’s really Battlefield

[robust aspen]

False expectations from a AAA dev... Sure.

[hard geyser]

Only thing that sucked to me was old events coming back. If it ain't new I don't want it or maps either. They can keep the game modes

[sharp swift]

the "dev update" was more a teaser. they should have called it something else

[jovial minnow]

true

[still vault]

We have gotten these shorts videos plenty of times before for the other seasons. Talking semantics will not change that 🙂

[hard geyser]

I just want all maps

[mental delta]

I mean it's not new content so it can't be interesting

[pine roost]

did you enjoy the limited modes before?

[onyx zephyr]

bet you defended when the game launched because of our "brutal expectations" that they set themselves

[remote kiln]

this game has been through the ringer but still on the hopium that DICE are going to ramp up content

[hard geyser]

We are like 12 behind schedule lmao

[solar tinsel]

Should have been a blog post

[wide shore]

Idek if I could call that a teaser.

[robust aspen]

This could of been a yt short

[sharp swift]

yes

[sharp swift]

lol

[glossy storm]

Also, shouldn't it be at least 2 new maps per season now? Since they're done with the reworks?

[stone cradle]

to make it truly Battlefield, the season on launch will be buggy and will require further patches

[sand jewel]

Just watched it. Kinda hype but also would be cool if more maps were added

[mental delta]

That was a trailer not a dev update even though they called it that way

[mossy badge]

Tell me the names of new maps that got added how much are they?

[hard geyser]

No the only thing I've enjoyed with this game are guns and the maps

[onyx zephyr]

every dev update is tripple the length of this one at minimum and actually communicates whats happening in the future beyond "there will be map"

[remote kiln]

did you hear what I had to say when the game launched? clearly not, pragmatism =/= defending

[onyx zephyr]

thats my issue

[robust aspen]

3 new guns prob that's it like before

[lilac dust]

We had to wait 7 MONTHS for season 1 and now we have to wait over a month for season 6 breh

[onyx zephyr]

they keep overhyping

[pine roost]

fair enough then

[mental delta]

Mine too 😂

[solar tinsel]

It was a Redux announcement, really thats it

[sharp swift]

i only bought bf 2042 for the glitches and stayed because fun

[pine roost]

although I was right about one thing, there's a helicopter revamp coming in this event :D

[calm bison]

Bespoke gamer right here

[ancient peak]

shrug Play or don’t play. Simple as

[wide shore]

Dw guys. Look on the bright side. We can buy all those limited cosmetics we missed

[mental delta]

I still don't understand how they thought it would be a good idea to recycle all cosmetics from past events to make-up a new one

[solar tinsel]

I get it's a "Development Update"as far as the video format went, but definitely didnt have enough substance for one. Blog post wouldve been the way to go to better temper expectations

[onyx zephyr]

im not your #1 fan im just saying they overhyped it by calling it a development update about the games future and then said nothing new about the games future other than "yes season 6 is real becasue you didnt know that"

[sharp swift]

it was on sale 15$

[solar tinsel]

I think its because they need time to finish S6 content and this can be done as a relatively light lift

[sharp swift]

im not spending 80$ on shit

[jade ledge]

Wait so S6 is delayed?

[robust aspen]

Real bf fan

[solar tinsel]

Its not coming immediately after S5

[nova idol]

S6 launches in october

[remote kiln]

it's literally a game development update, not about the future where did you get that idea from lmao, 0 "development updates" this game has had have covered the future, get off your hopium

[mental delta]

If they need that much time to finish season 6 it's probably the last one

[stone cradle]

5 new maps across 1 and a half years. Truly a Battlefield moment!

[sharp swift]

yes brother

[robust aspen]

Yes they have lol

[glossy lava]

holy fck

[lilac dust]

Probably just to squeeze out the life of this game a bit further before it's inevitable closure at the end of season 6

[robust aspen]

S3 s4

[sharp swift]

wouldnt call it a dev update more like a teaser

[remote kiln]

no they haven't, they've gave vague hints of nothing and then done the actual content reveal with the season trailer

[nova idol]

I do not expect the next BF to have learned any lessons from 2042

[solar tinsel]

That, or just EA is making a judgement call each season. There is a low chance S7 could happen if the next BF game needs even MORE time, but I wouldnt be surprised if S6 is pirposely longer to accomodate the time needed

[mental delta]

He's right though their announcements were literally "watch the dev update to learn more about the future of BF2042"

[jade ledge]

Bruh with the previous games it was wayy better. Before BF5 anyways. 16 maps in about 2 years.

[stone cradle]

watch them add no server browser when they end the game

[sharp swift]

let them reveal with time

[stone cradle]

If that happens then I'm not staying on the game any longer

[onyx mica]

i will have time to play war thunder and armored core until then, thanks bf 2042

[solar tinsel]

Funny enough, I'm surprised DICE didn't make S5 a 14 week season for this reason of just adding more buffer time. S3/4 were 14 week seasons

[nova idol]

What did you think the future was going to be aside from a new season

[robust aspen]

Guys this really could of been yt short

[mental delta]

Yeah probably but BF6 comes out in 2025 I think, it would mean the whole year 2024 is gonna be empty with Battlefield content

[solar tinsel]

Empty content will be fine for EA, they just need to ensure they can start their next PR cycle

[sharp swift]

they dont want to over promise right away like that one blizzard game

[stone cradle]

I honestly hope they give DICE the time they need and don't rush them

[mental delta]

I said BF2042 future not Battlefield franchise future ?

[robust aspen]

Honestly fine with that not this kind of life support we get

[jade ledge]

Sad but eh, Imma chill with Starfield.

[solar tinsel]

Even if there's no new content, if they're ready to start promoting the next game wont matter

[wide shore]

Oh season 6 is definitely the end.

[stone cradle]

I can't have 3 poor BF launches in a row, dear god

[pine roost]

bf fans are used to many months with no content

[mental delta]

I just hope next game is better and finished

[nova idol]

What?

[solar tinsel]

The problem with releasing a video branded as a Dev Update instead of making it a blog post is that it just creates a lot of poor expectations and bad taste that easily could have been avoided

[solar tinsel]

Dont we all

[pine roost]

honestly though if this attack helicopter improvement pass fixes flight assist I will be overjoyed

[nova idol]

Im asking what did you expect them to announce besides a new season?

[mossy badge]

Only 5 ?

[mental delta]

Lol you're lucky I play on PS5 I won't have access to it

[wide shore]

I expected them to announce a new season

[lilac dust]

Blog post would have been received a trillion times better than a dev update. 100%

[stone cradle]

yeah

[still vault]

If you wanna go the semantics route just compare it with the other "first look" videos instead. That's in the title as well.

[wide shore]

Which we did not get.

[nova idol]

They did, season 6 launches in october

[remote kiln]

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1691106972979060736?s=19 idk why everyone's living in this parallel universe

Battlefield on Twitter

What’s coming next?

Tune in tomorrow for a new Dev Update video to find out what we’ve been cooking for #Battlefield 2042 👀

⏰ August 15 | 3PM UTC
🔔 https://t.co/1YcS16hgco

Twitter · Aug 14, 2023, 3:18 PM

[mental delta]

Not a reason to continue on this way though

[solar tinsel]

format matters. it is funny that someone called players out for Brutal Expectations when this was definitely a poor effort at tempering them

[mossy badge]

Are you counting the new one in it?

[sharp swift]

the next BF game has to be a hit or else (not a threat just a fact)

[lilac dust]

If you serve shit in the form of a video, people lose their shit. If you serve shit in the form of a blog post, people hold onto their shit and use the toilet later wait where i am going with this

[nova idol]

We didnt get an in depth reveal because its been delayed by at least a month and a half

[stone cradle]

S6 hasn't even come out, so no

[solar tinsel]

yup, I don't want to be a hater but this was just a poor PR/Comms move

[jade ledge]

Sadly I’m on the Series S. 30fps cap with lower graphics. Don’t feel bad if you can’t play it cuz I won’t be enjoying it probably unless they release a performance mode for the game

[stone cradle]

I mean in previous entries we got double the maps in half the time. But I guess they weren't making the new game at the same time

[solar tinsel]

not even hating on DICE, but the format just was a poor choice

[sharp swift]

same bro let the devs cook

[wide shore]

Then why make a video about it? You can’t blame players for having high expectations when they tease a whole video days in advance.

[tardy tree]

new map looks like some sort of jungle

[surreal geyser]

its done

[tardy tree]

or overgrown thing

[mossy badge]

So we can say 6 map lad yeah one is upcoming but it is coming so we counting it lad
So 6 map in almost 2 year

[sharp swift]

that be cool

[pine roost]

they also had to basically remake this game too, just think about how much from UI to gameplay systems and mechanics had to be redone

[sharp swift]

like that mod for FO4

[surreal geyser]

they just need more vacation

[lilac dust]

Welcome to the jungle we've got fun and games

[vocal tusk]

TBH, 99% of this "Falling flat" stuff from this video could have been solved by just not including any new info on Season 6 right now...but stating that we will hear more info in the next 2-4 weeks in that respect.

Hype was generated around this Dev Update like we were going to hear something substantial about the road ahead for BF 2042

New maps looks cool tho...looking forward to seeing more

[fickle wharf]

Denial mentality

[wide shore]

Rehashing content isn’t exciting. It doesn’t warrant a whole video. Especially a live premier.

[sharp swift]

fun?

lol

[stone cradle]

yeah and frostbite isn't really friendly at all.

[solar tinsel]

EA in my opinion has a notriously terrible PR strategy. They use defensive/gaslighting language way too much - and they overhype when it's not needed. Not blaming line level employees either, this is probably a higher-up thing.

[stone cradle]

Ripple should've honestly done the post-launch content for this game

[lilac dust]

I just felt like singing. Has nothing to do with 2042

[nova idol]

Because its an update on whats going on? Would you have preferred they didnt say anything and then just have S6 not launch on time with no warning?

[mental delta]

I think most of players don't expect it to even be a BF game

[stone cradle]

but EA is making them do some stupid extraction shooter now for BF

[solar tinsel]

Blog post

[stone cradle]

[wide shore]

I’d rather they just made a blog post about this redux shit. And teased the map properly when the time comes to show it

[mossy badge]

What is HZ then?

[wide shore]

They did this to themselves

[nova idol]

They did do a blog post. Why do you hold a youtube video in such high regard?

[stone cradle]

HZ died a long time ago

[pine roost]

oh hang on, yo that's pretty neat. There's going to be an in game codex that contains the game's lore!

[mental delta]

Brutal expectations

[stone cradle]

Now they seem to be attempting it again

[sharp swift]

half the people who play it likely dont know what hardline is (they just bought because their favorite youtuber said its good)

[nova idol]

"Oh shit a YOUTUBE VIDEO that means theyre saving the game!"

[fickle wharf]

Nice

[mossy badge]

[wide shore]

Because videos generally indicate showing something. This video showed basically nothing.

[sharp swift]

yes

[jade ledge]

At this point, Battlefield Hardline makes Battlefield 2042 look like shit. (But BF Hardline was pretty good, just sidelined by many sadly)

[surreal geyser]

yes

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-van-der-linde-red-dead-redemption-gif-22961531

[mental delta]

Yeah the 30FPS thing is a shame lol, launching a game on next gen consoles like this is kinda bad

[mossy badge]

Hyped for the new HIIZ

[nova idol]

Series S really was a mistake ngl

[solar tinsel]

I think it's important to recognize different formats form different expectations from players. Whether you agree with that sentiment or not, doesn't change the fact that a majority of players DO view it that way, and I think good PR/Comms strategies take that into consideration

[glossy lava]

underrated bf

[sharp swift]

at this point. bro that point was a long ways back

[stone cradle]

I guess EA wants to try 'something new' with BF again with the ripple game. DICE and Ridgeline on the other hand are doing a traditional one again it seems.

[wide shore]

There was nothing in this video that warranted a video, or a “see what we’ve been cooking 👀” tweets. They have been cooking nothing.

[fickle wharf]

nothing
How is redux of 3 seasons events nothing or would you rather have literal nothing between s5 end n s6

[mental delta]

Yeah I was referring to specialists which don't really capture the Battlefield immersion 😬

[jade ledge]

But the maps are huge so I kinda understand but it’s a next gen console. If the PS4 and XBONE can run RDR2 at 60fps, then surely they can make Starfield run at 60fps.

[mossy badge]

Ripple is making HIIZ?

[pine roost]

I'm scared to see what a 'reimagined' battlefield looks like

[wide shore]

Rehashing content is nothing.

[surreal geyser]

THe nex BF series will be the same like bf2042

[sharp swift]

yes they should throw specialists away

[fickle wharf]

NOOOO you cant re use content

[wide shore]

The video they showed of the new map was so short it was basically just 2 screenshots.

[stone cradle]

I mean EA said it's a new take on Battlefield, so yeah probably an extraction shooter - so HZ 2 or some battle royale

[mental delta]

Yeah that's the whole thing, they even delayed Fallout 4 next gen update for Starfield and it's only 30FPS on consoles

[sharp swift]

season 5 anyone

[mental delta]

Yeah never make that shit again

[lilac dust]

They bring back cosmetics and modes all the time. They are just glorifying the hell out of this time to make it seem exciting because it's all packaged as one big thing

[jade ledge]

🥹

[stone cradle]

That's from ripple, I imagine the main game will be playing it super safe again with how awful the reception was to 2042 on launch

[wide shore]

It all could’ve been a blog post. Making it a video broadened expectations. Not that mine were high anyway. But this somehow still disappointed.

[robust aspen]

It's prob another br

[sharp swift]

specialists are just gear with cosmetics

[fickle wharf]

Wdym all the time
First time this stuff is coming back?????

[glossy lava]

ripple - BR, DICE - MP-, Ridgeline - SP

[solar tinsel]

but hey fear not folks (and now I'm just poking fun) - we're getting a Lore Codex! (And Engineer balance whatever that means)

[stone cradle]

Starfield is freakin huge so that makes sense. Very CPU intensive

[lilac dust]

Key word being "modes" not specific to any mode

[stone cradle]

redfall made no sense to be 30fps though, just awful optimisation

[jade ledge]

But with how BF2042 was supposed to be and how it ended up being, the disappointment left a mark on the franchise.

[sharp swift]

didnt play (80$)

[glossy storm]

Disappointed because so far DICE has been delivering stuff ranging from decent to good.

[stone cradle]

It will bounce back lol

[pine roost]

at this point I was expecting so little that I just feel nothing :/

[stone cradle]

but they need to go all in the next BF

[nova idol]

Specialists are 100% going to be in the next BF

[sharp swift]

why are you disapointed my friend

[surreal geyser]

THe next BF will be the same

[misty briar]

ive grown to them and like them, hopefully they stay

[glossy storm]

I'm being optimistic on the off chance that they have more content up their sleeves.

[pine roost]

like It's essentially just saying there's a delay to the season and they are filling the space by bringing back some modes

[stone cradle]

yes they totally are when they turned them into classes this game

[wide shore]

It reads to me as “we need more time for Season 6. So in the meantime here’s literally anything. Isn’t it so exciting? You can play events you’ve already played, and buy cosmetics you already didn’t want. But some of them will be free maybe? But this video is already too long so we won’t show you anyway”

[lilac dust]

Quite frankly I'd be more excited about Redux if season 7 was confirmed. I'll play the game til the end of time if season 50475 is confirmed

[misty briar]

the trailer pushing so much info this will prob be the final

[stone cradle]

they will totally repeat the same mistake

[robust aspen]

One thing I hate is the graphics and engine for 2042 I know the whole we had to change engines and stuff but man for what dice has done with frostbite I only wanna see the new frostbite for bf6

[mental delta]

Totally there's no point of making them a thing in BF, they just wanted to sell skins I guess

[sharp swift]

they likely do (why it was postponed)

[pine roost]

the graphical quality is great in 2042, it's just the general art direction that people dislike

[jade ledge]

I doubt it but the hyped that this game generated before launch was insane and then when it launched, everyone clowned on it cuz it was garbage. Battlefield won’t get the same hype after this disappointment, mark my words.

[robust aspen]

Eh kinda but lacking in places

[sharp swift]

there is still a way they can do that without specialists

[glossy storm]

2 seconds of footage of the new map. And rest of the trailer is just about the return of past events and cosmetics.

[stone cradle]

Idk why they would hire BF3 leads again just to make another 2042, just saying

[mental delta]

Yeah and they maybe delayed it to October to make it end in late 2023

[velvet sand]

so is Redux what DICE has been hyping up? Redux to give us something to do while the next season appears delayed?

[robust aspen]

It's still good but it could of been better that's why they had that engine swap thingy

[surreal geyser]

If dice don't want to work, Just remaster BF4 with 128 Conquest.

[mental delta]

Totally but Dice being Dice didn't figure it out yet

[misty briar]

i bet there is no season 7. this is it

[solar tinsel]

Delay is a strong word, but yes it won't be immediately after S5 and that's pretty much the jist

[sharp swift]

it was a teaser basicly (i dont consider it a dev update)

[jade ledge]

Redux = We don’t have much to offer so here’s a consolation prize.

[misty briar]

specialists are fun

[wide shore]

I’m usually insanely optimistic about this game. But, I literally can’t be about this.

[solar tinsel]

But hey, we're getting a lore codex!

[mental delta]

Nah.

[stone cradle]

nah it will. People said that about the next BF from V

[velvet sand]

Delayed is correct though, no? S6 should normally start shortly after S5 but we're getting like 6 weeks of temporary modes in between?

[stone cradle]

They just need to market it like hell

announce it as a comeback, actually be transparent too

and not radio silent

[solar tinsel]

To be honest I expect nothing with Battlefield 2042 regarding timing haha, so I don't view it as "delayed" as no date wa sannounced, but I get it

[glossy storm]

You can hate the art direction, but the graphical fidelity of the game is undeniably fantastic.

[misty briar]

ye. when u get used to it i like them. but its good that its split in classes now. before with the freedom for everything is was bad

[velvet sand]

I'm just laughing at DICE hyping up S6 recently and then they announce, "S6 delayed, returning events for a while, please be excited."

[sharp swift]

Redux = have limited time content back while you wait for season 6

[velvet sand]

Just once DICE will be able to read the room correctly and not shoot themselves in the foot for no reason.

[nova idol]

Yes, they will

[mental delta]

The specialist gadgets can be fun for some of them (only some of them) but they look bad as fuck and totally break the BF spirit

[sharp swift]

agreed

[nova idol]

Considering DICE doubled down on them in an interview lmao

[jade ledge]

Honestly trash.

[mental delta]

Doubled on what ???

[velvet sand]

Because I'm not even mad about temporary modes, just that it feels underwhelming as hell given that DICE has been hyping up 2042/S6 for a bit now.

[stone cradle]

That wasn't doubling down though

[shadow imp]

impossible

[solar tinsel]

YEah thats the thing. If they released a blog post only this would have likely been less of a self-inflicted damage against people's view of them

[robust aspen]

Like that will happen

[misty briar]

i mean if things would be more focused on teamplay ye. there is too much stuff that pushes the solo player mentality

[sharp swift]

idc as long as s6 has time to cook

[robust aspen]

Ikr, and people out here defending this crap

[mental delta]

Totally, like Sundance grenades or Paik device or even Dozer shield not used like it should

[arctic grove]

Tf is Redux?

[solar tinsel]

Defending isn't really the right word. It's bad, but people also do need to realize 2042's development cycle is coming to an end and the next game's will start soon-ish

[jade ledge]

Needs a lot more content than previous season. The bugs and the launch maps are fixed for the most part. If its honestly just 1 map and 3 new weapons then yeah, no thanks.

[pine roost]

basically the previous limited time events will be coming back as a rotation over 6 weeks

[mental delta]

You don't like the 2 months waiting for a 1 map and 3 guns content drop ?

[solar tinsel]

At the end of the day, the result could just be "nothing" and Redux + S6 is admittedly better than nothing. I just think they picked a terrible format to announce this

[sharp swift]

not defending just calming people (I think idk this is the most fun i've had on discord)

[pine roost]

with a few qol updates scattered here and there

[stone cradle]

mackay should'nt have a grappling gun imo. But instead create a grappling line for anyone to use

[solar tinsel]

and a LORE CODEX! 👀 lol

[mental delta]

The best example out of them all

[sharp swift]

yes i agree they need season 6 to be a hit

[robust aspen]

Ik what you mean, if s6 is packed it will be ok, but I'm saying for what we got now...

[solar tinsel]

do we think anyone will read the lore codex though? Thats the real question.

[robust aspen]

What we got now is unacceptable

[velvet sand]

Oh well. Time to going back to just playing 2042 for daily rounds and otherwise ignoring DICE because every time they say they've got something exciting planned it always ends up being disappointing and underwhelming. Better to just ignore DICE.

[robust aspen]

Yet people bash on us for expecting anything

[mental delta]

Lore codex is actually one of the best things in redux update, it should have just fucking been there since November 2021

[sharp swift]

yeah im just glad they didn't end the game now

[stone cradle]

barely any people honestly

[arctic grove]

Bruh S6 in October

[stone cradle]

so many people don't even know the lore of the game

[frail sparrow]

I'm guessing dice has run out of content that they now also recycle modes? Next update will just be reintroducing specialists with no restraints

[jade ledge]

Port all the remaining portal weapons to AoW. And maybe add atleast another map with a portal map. They have been hyping this shit by saying shit like,”Oh I didn’t expect this but this is truly battlefield.” Like what do you mean truly battlefield? 1 map and 3 guns aint battlefield.

[robust aspen]

Tbh for this stuff we got just let them put the dog down instead of making it suffer so slowly

[stone cradle]

I mean tbh it is battlefield

overhyping

[glossy storm]

That'd be funny.

[ebon pilot]

or they haven't actually finished the new map

[solar tinsel]

It didn't integrate into the general game well enough, beyond just the ittle easter egg hunts at the end of each season

[sharp swift]

what we got tho is devs trying to make a failed game better let dice cook my friend

[naive quiver]

This

[robust aspen]

I'll let them cook for bf6

[solar tinsel]

Like, heck they should have written lore updates that described what happened to the maps that resulted in their 2.0 versions. Even that was a missed opportunity

[nova idol]

I dont even know was S4 was about

[jade ledge]

Exactly.

[robust aspen]

I've seen what games dice can make.

[mossy badge]

Rework map

[sharp swift]

true true

[naive quiver]

Season 6 = ♻️

[stone cradle]

Lore seems tacked on

[mossy badge]

No bro there is 1 new map

[robust vapor]

Season 6 includes D0ks in the game

[stone cradle]

But I don't blame them, so many people hated no pats

[robust vapor]

[sharp swift]

season 5 = ♻️ (change my mind) (its still good)

[jade ledge]

1

[stone cradle]

so now they're trying to slowly phase them out.

[royal swan]

That redux or reuse

[surreal geyser]

Whatever we cursing DIcee, S5 Recycling will be done.

[jade ledge]

How do people defend this

[royal swan]

Season 6 will be like any other season

Expect no rework

[mossy badge]

1 isn't enough for you bro?

[solar tinsel]

Yeah it definitely was. I think it wasm meant to serve as some way to explain specialists but even that didnt make sense.

Heck I was disappointed the LTEs didn't force the faction specific skins (with purchasing letting you use them outside of the mode)

[royal swan]

So a kinda old cherry on top of a cheap cake

[arctic grove]

reuse ♻️ reduce ♻️ recycle ♻️

[ebon pilot]

Raiding Oz's testing facility in the Richtersveld

[sharp swift]

maybe two map because no more rework

[jade ledge]

From DICE, people who had given us great games like Battlefield 3, 4 and 1? No.

[arctic grove]

EA taking the environment into consideration

[naive quiver]

I prefer it called recycle

[sharp swift]

reduce reuse recycle*

[royal swan]

It's one map friend

[robust aspen]

Dice just needs to put the dog down instead of making it suffer because they don't know how to manage it.

[misty briar]

42 comming to an end for good. They made the most utterly trash bf to an decent and fun game. We can just hope they did learn and wont repeat all this trash launch again. But all the hate for redux in this channel is nonsense. Ppl be mad like „ they just delay season 6 wtf just say it“ like bruh atleast we got „something“ for the meantime. They could just do nothing and wait till they done with season 6. but i aint rly surprised. Most of the ppl here are average at the game and got no worth of opinion anyway

[velvet sand]

DICE like 8 years ago: Here's 3 maps we designed over the past few months. 3 more coming in a few more months.
DICE today: It took us 6 months to make this one map you ungrateful assholes.

[sharp swift]

do you work there

[solar tinsel]

Where the lore breaksdown though is the actual conflict between US and RU makes no sense in the context of that, no? Are the no-pats fighting for US? For RU? The lore drops made it seem as if the no-pats were trying to fight back against the US/RU but....

doesnt make sense

[royal swan]

They didn't include the second one in that dev update did they

[jade ledge]

It used to be 16 maps in 2 years. Now it 4 maps in 2 years.

[royal swan]

Only just that one map

[floral falcon]

[velvet sand]

that means they're all 4 times as good...right?!

[arctic grove]

This game has lore?

[stone cradle]

2042 team seems to be kind of tiny though, remember, most focus is going towards next BF

[mossy badge]

6 lad 6

[velvet sand]

Been this way since they were "all hands on deck, everyone is working on 2042" so I don't see a difference.

[royal swan]

Plus a rework of all base maps

[solar tinsel]

this has definitely been a sour spot for me, despite the improvements to 2042

[sharp swift]

They didnt include all info did they

[misty briar]

Ppl forget that dif ppl worked for these games no

[mental delta]

I'm just happy if the game ceases to get updates after season 6 so they'll all be focusing on the next game, I understand hate towards redux update though, because you say they could have just given us nothing for the next 2 months but they knew if they would have done that the backlash was gonna be terrible, don't forget they made this redux for them not for us, and they made it with the lowest resources possible

[stone cradle]

BF content creators probably starving rn

[royal swan]

It's most likely just one it's going to be the same content like the rest

[sharp swift]

AAA GAMES SHOULD BE HELD TO HIGHER STANDARDS

[jade ledge]

Still, I can’t see myself defending this game for the lack of content and core features that they now call content. Yes, I agree this game has improved over the two years and is in a better state but I still consider the lack of content a major problem.

[wide shore]

I love getting chances to buy cosmetics I already didn’t want.

[solar tinsel]

Despite rework of base maps, there was not enough work done in advance to be ready for a healthy map rollout. DICE didn't know theyd need to rework maps at launch, and yet it still took how many months to release 1 map. It was always the plan to do 1 map a season

[misty briar]

I many times said that i hope ppl got fired

[sharp swift]

Maybe. will have to see

[robust aspen]

But so many people in this server wanna treat dice as a baby company

[stone cradle]

gamers won't understand

[velvet sand]

Also, October launch for S6 gonna be great. Right in the middle of big AAA month with tons of competitive releases. I wonder if they're sending S6 out to die intentionally.

[ebon pilot]

The no-pats fight for whoever pays money. They absolutely hate the US and RU, but they also need resources they can't get alone.

[willow sky]

Spend all the boins!!111

[robust aspen]

Dice wouldn't understand

[stone cradle]

MW3 will have no new maps on launch supposedly, only remakes of older ones. $70 and cod fans will preorder it in droves

[mental delta]

Me too but between getting 25 cosmetics that were already in the game or getting 3 more guns I would definitely choose guns

[pine roost]

even if s6 launched away from those titles I don't think it would have made a difference anyway.
those who would play are those in the know anyway

[sharp swift]

Ik they're still people though

[jade ledge]

Battlebit is an indie game with 3 devs and they hit the jackpot. Battlefield 2042 is a game with 3+ STUDIOS and can’t get more content out in time.

[ivory canopy]

Valid point, and I agree. This game was so badly underbaked at the start and they've been playing salvage since day 1. It's a bad look for the series.

[wide shore]

Oh, I was being sarcastic

[robust aspen]

I expect so much more from dice.

[stone cradle]

battlebit was in dev hell for 7+ years though

[robust aspen]

For this entire game

[stone cradle]

[mossy badge]

Bro trust me if battlefield fans will be getting remake of battlefield 3 and 4 maps people will buy it I willl buy ity friend crabs will buy it too

[vocal tusk]

Bro....most people here would pay 70 bucks easy for BF3 or BF4 remastered, with all weapons, vehicles and maps included. Why do people frame this as a bad thing for MW3?

[misty briar]

They worked over 7 years on battlebit and included the community in almost every decision. Battlebit is awesome but thats a stupid comparison

[solar tinsel]

It just feels like such a strange premise. "We hate you, but... we'll also fight your wars!" rather than you know, have it be something like No Pats vs. US on some maps and No Pats vs. RU on others

[pine roost]

i wouldn't pay £70 for literally the same game

[stone cradle]

I want new content. I already put so many hours into BF3.

[ivory canopy]

I could have bought Touhou 18 for 1/6 the price and might have enjoyed it more, and that's a game pretty much made by one person.

[ebon pilot]

When you have no other real choice, yeah it kinda fucking sucks.

[jade ledge]

Yeah, cuz it’s a 3 man team. Ofcourse it took them 7 years. They asked for feedback from their small community all the time. EA prior to the launch gave us nothing.

[solar tinsel]

Unfortunately a biproduct of a very poorly thought out pre-pro

[jade ledge]

Now since they fucked up, they’re asking our opinions.

[misty briar]

incompetence shouldnt be paid. so lets hope ppl got replaced

[severe oyster]

i lost all hope

2 minute development update of remixed mid content hahaha

[stone cradle]

3 man team could make anything they wanted. DICE devs were forced by leadership to make a trend-following game

[mossy badge]

Trust me if this new s6 trailer showed that new map and locker/metro people will be excited

[sharp marten]

They’ll have remade maps from the original mw2 so that’s a plus in my eyes

[jade ledge]

That shit made me mad ngl. I was super stoked but what they showed made me sour.

[misty briar]

plus that. the bigger the company, the less its connected to the userbase, which means less user friendly decisions

[sharp marten]

Have you heard that metro and locker are returning

[stone cradle]

Was going to be a $30 map pack for MW2. That's what I don't like. Stretched into $70 game

[wide shore]

If they just said “ya season 6 is coming but we need a bit more time. We’re rehashing some old events cause y’all liked the modes. Hopefully you’ll stick with us.” In like a blog post or something, whatever.

It really is because they hyped it up, made it a premier video, and tweeted shit like “see what we’re cooking” that this shit comes across as a wet fart.

[solar tinsel]

A lot of Battlefield's leadership structure has changed since 2042's launch. Vince Zampella is the new lead and he has a good track record

[surreal geyser]

DICE says there will be a small Quality of Life Update during Redux which includes changes such as "balance adjustments for Engineers" and a new "Codex feature" for those who love to learn more about the lore of

[pine roost]

the furthest they could probably go is to bring people into the studio for private playtesting. I'm certain bf1 had alphas way before launch

[misty briar]

thx for that information. im happy about that @solar tinsel

[sharp marten]

Yeah that’s pretty understandable to not like it tbh

[solar tinsel]

EA PR does like to shoot themselves in the foot

[crude juniper]

no new content for a nother month. aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

[ivory canopy]

Redux should add more weapons, at least.

[jade ledge]

And they have the audacity to say people don’t understand specialists.

[surreal geyser]

lol

[stone cradle]

thank you dice for giving me more time to play other games

[misty briar]

yall should gather ur hate for 42 and put it on blizzard

[mossy badge]

Preston sorry man I am not a metro or locker fan but I am fan of wake island lad and amiens, Shanghai, passchendaele and the lavender map from BFV

[mighty holly]

wake island

[robust aspen]

I was a fool once, I believed in dice.

[wide shore]

Basically. I was worried about juggling battlefield between Starfield, Payday 3 and Phantom Liberty. But now I don’t have to! Thanks DICE

[arctic grove]

At least I’ll get to finish RE4

[ivory canopy]

Oh my God I would LOVE to see Wake Island in AOW

[sharp marten]

Wake island returning would be a HUGE w

[stone cradle]

that is somewhat true. Acti-Blizz makes EA look like a charity, dear god

[mighty holly]

Ngl a bit odd for the Russians to fight on wake island 2042 but that’s just me

[misty briar]

i swear to god

[mossy badge]

Yep

[jade ledge]

I can’t wait for Phantom Liberty and Starfield. Two of my most anticipated games.

Well ones a DLC

[stone cradle]

I can finally finish RDR2 and spiderman

[ivory canopy]

They were there in BF3 /shrug

[robust aspen]

Oh my God I would love to see content in 2042

[sharp marten]

Tbh if they don’t add any old maps from past games add them to the next title give me karkhand bro

[mossy badge]

Poetic are you wake island fan

[stone cradle]

[wide shore]

Wake is fine

[pine roost]

meanwhile I'm just playing assassins creed 2

[ivory canopy]

So true

[robust aspen]

Yeah

[onyx mica]

yep, i was worried about armored core too but now i can relax

[sharp marten]

I’m def investing into payday2

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/creedezio-jump-assasins-creed-gif-12565564

ezio trilogy is goated

[sharp marten]

I see TTK is buying up old dice devs so I really wanna see what they’re cooking

[jade ledge]

Free with Gamepass soooo

[wide shore]

I’d rather a remake of Seine Crossing/Grand Bazaar, Strike at Karkand, Sharqi, ANY aftermath map over Wake.

[jade ledge]

Facts.

[pine roost]

I wouldn't assume they are simply 'buying them up'

[stone cradle]

I don't trust the devs after they gave the middle finger to console players, but I have some hope they'll change this time

[misty briar]

valhalla aint a bad game, just a bad ac

[jade ledge]

Especially Sharqi Peninsula.

[ivory canopy]

How about add 10 original AOW weapons plus a shitload more portal weapons? Obviously balance them so each section of weaponry gets to a relatively high amount of options. Maybe too much to ask.

[stone cradle]

yeah it's a fun rpg. Shouldn't be called AC at all.

[ivory canopy]

I would love to see some BF2 maps too

[wide shore]

Crossplay this time at least. Which hopefully means parity.

[misty briar]

atleast some sanity

[pine roost]

I've been on a rampage playing loads of old games and it's been a blast

[misty briar]

in here

[jade ledge]

Origins > Odyssey and Valhalla

[drowsy shuttle]

Didn't some senior producer at dice recently said we would be mind blown with season 6?

[mighty holly]

don’t be afraid to ping me since I hardly talk on this cursed channel but sadly I haven’t played bf3 and or bf4 so my knowledge of battlefield is really slim

[crude matrix]

I like valhalla

[sharp marten]

I know you wouldn’t but I would

[wide shore]

Said the map would make players say “ah, didn’t expect that but that’s very battlefield”

[crude matrix]

you're smoking crack

[stone cradle]

I can't wait for Mirage, map looks so dense and fun

[crude matrix]

imho

[mighty holly]

the only thing I know about bf3/4 is that Russia and China are fighting the US

and well 2142 lore but that’s something else

[mossy badge]

You know everything lad then that's it

[wide shore]

Yet, all I’m saying after that video is “didn’t expect that, but that’s very DICE”

[drowsy shuttle]

I dont think he mentioned map, I think he was referring to season 6 as a whole...

[robust aspen]

I was a fool once. I trusted dice

[pine roost]

do you reckon this redux thing is what they meant by that unexpected surprise?

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-ice-walking-travel-family-gif-17106736

2142 lore in a nutshell

[crude matrix]

is bf3 still active on PC??

[wide shore]

Well, I guess we’ll see. Seeing as we know as much about season 6 right now as we did 2 hours ago

[stone cradle]

fool me once.. something something

[sharp marten]

Don’t get it wrong dice can throw out complete banger updates but but they ain’t cooking atm

[ebon pilot]

We know it's very dark

[robust aspen]

Fool me once... I forgot

[onyx mica]

dark

[wide shore]

They’re cooking tofu rn

[stone cradle]

I mean yeah they're working on a new game as we speak

[robust aspen]

Bro who even knows if dice has many employees

[stone cradle]

I just want the rumour and leak mill to start already for BF6.

[drowsy shuttle]

True. Although my expectations are low.

[west lichen]

jesus what is this development update

[mossy badge]

Lad next one will be 🔥

[solar tinsel]

For me, it's just unfortunately an old tune for EA (and I blame more the EA PR side of things than DICE developers) where there is a definite "out-of-touch" disconnect where they think:

"Let's do a flashy VIDEO to hype the players up and keep them excited!"

and not realizing that such an announcement would likely be received better simply as a blog post and saving the video for a proper S6 reveal.

[west lichen]

is this all we got? wow

[wide shore]

Mine were low for this video. And it still disappointed me.

[wide shore]

Yuuuup

[sharp marten]

[solar tinsel]

Like someone at EA thought that a video and teasing the videos' release as a YT Premiere would be a good idea, and its just out of touch

[willow sky]

@robust vapor hows it going

[wide shore]

Not even out of touch. Straight up insane

[pine roost]

It's true that less people would see it if it was just a post

but word would still get around regardless

[solar tinsel]

especially knowing the history of the game and the whole how "brtual expectations get set" well, probably by failing to temper expectations

[robust vapor]

No idea I'm tired

[west lichen]

i'm almost getting crying. jesus dice

[misty briar]

Eh id prefer odyssey

[robust aspen]

He almost got crying

[ivory canopy]

BF4 is, in my opinion, one of the best. A lot of good in BF3 too.

[wide shore]

It didn’t need more people to see it. If anything the more people see that video the worse it’s gonna be

[sharp marten]

Yeah that preview disappointed me as well I’ll keep a open mind tho for S6

[solar tinsel]

Listen, overall I still think Redux + S6 is better than nothing at all, but yikes it's just hilarious how poorly they frame their content and brand

as if the Battlefield brand needs any more dings to its rep

and it's a momentum killer for what had generally been a good run lately

[stone cradle]

better than cringe cod marketing

[west lichen]

but why we will get only one map...

[robust aspen]

At least cod gives content

[solar tinsel]

I mean, that was to be expected

[robust vapor]

Sometimes I just wanna be like this guy and attain absolute peace

[wide shore]

It very much could’ve been “oi, we need more time, here’s some stuff in the meantime.” But was framed as “look at all this SICK content guys. We know how much you loved our events, well now you can play them again.”

[robust aspen]

Like giving your pet dog food unlike dice

[warped bramble]

Hey guys just logged on! What's the next season look like?

[solar tinsel]

Every other season has been one map, and 2042's development cycle is winding down

[drowsy shuttle]

I think bf 2042 is entering the final road. I mean.. kinda expected after 2 years... what wasn't expected was that launch that ruined the rest of the experience cause they wasted lot of time fixing the game (like map reworks) during those 2 years. Oh well... I still had fun with the game. And above all was free for me 😄

[west lichen]

why i used almost over than 1500 cad...

[robust aspen]

Oh my young child, you have no idea

[onyx mica]

dark

[ivory canopy]

That was something! Right?! 😄

[robust aspen]

We don't know

[stone cradle]

1 new map, some guns, and LTM modes and unlocks coming back for a limited time.

[solar tinsel]

that was the quote for this trailer

[sharp marten]

Petition for the PR team to learn how to PR

[wide shore]

It’s safe to say we know as much about season 6 now, as we did before the video.

[solar tinsel]

haha hey I don't care either way, that's on them

[ivory canopy]

No shit? I didn't watch it

[west lichen]

i know... just sad... just really sad...

[solar tinsel]

No I mean thats how youll react to it ha

[sharp marten]

Do you know that for a fact?

[wide shore]

Whole video was incredibly tone deaf

[robust aspen]

No

Don't show that face

[solar tinsel]

I mean, if they do their PR job poorly, that only reflects poorly on them and makes their job harder. They would benefit from a self-assessment of how they operate

[ivory canopy]

How about this one

[sharp marten]

Just a little look at the new map it did seem pretty “close quarters”

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-be-sad-this-is-just-how-it-works-out-sometimes-angel-bf2042-battlefield-angel-dont-be-sad-angel-gif-24855532

[robust vapor]

Let him sleep fam

[raven haven]

Are we getting a night map with a facility?

[sharp marten]

What if they’re new

[solar tinsel]

You can even see it in EA's tendancy to use defensive language "legacy features", etc.

[robust vapor]

Man is just tired af

[raven haven]

It looks good so far

[onyx mica]

the best bf actor

[robust aspen]

He looks like a mountain climber than soldier

[ivory canopy]

He sure sounds it with the new voice lines he got in S1

[solar tinsel]

Maybe, but again the point is that development is a good idea, and perhaps even outside consultation

[stone cradle]

sad that he's not on cameo. Unlimited meme potential

[sharp marten]

It’s always good to keep a open mind fren 🤝

[robust aspen]

Bc2 squad and bf3 squad best va

[pine roost]

I will admit some of their wording has been a bit poor. Like when they say stuff like 'we've heard your feedback, and you miss the ability to kick teammates from your squad'. Like I appreciate they are putting emphasis on listening to people but it's simply something they forgot to implement initially

[solar tinsel]

Not hating, just saying they are shooting themselves in the foot and I think it would benefit them to see why it isnt working

[mossy badge]

Ranger is the best actor

[frail sparrow]

Dice: shit, team, we ran out of content to rework.. what the hell are we gonna present as new updates now?! PR team: I got u fam.

[sharp marten]

TELL EM TO BRING OUT DA CONTENT🗣️🗣️

[mental delta]

Ho my bad I read your message as "I love getting chances to buy cosmetics I didn't get"

[mossy badge]

Battlefield 6

[solar tinsel]

I'd guess it's how EA's communicators are instructed to communicate. It very much is positioning the player to feel "oh you actually want this? that's strange, but ok we'll listen to you"

[sharp marten]

TELL EM TO BRING OUT DA WHOLE STUDIO🗣️🗣️

[pine roost]

yeah since launch that line of thinking has been very notictable

[frail sparrow]

we need an pacific update for bf2042

something in that scale

[west lichen]

I really miss the s3

[sharp marten]

But hey I’m actually some what happy for new players they’ll get to do the event they couldn’t

[wide shore]

I feel like any person on the dev team would do better PR than any of the EA suits.

[pine roost]

in the podcasts, the talks, they always say they listen to feedback but often times it's really simple stuff that should really be there from the get go

[west lichen]

lobby music / maps ( rework ) / guns / 4.0 contents (4 guns 2 vault wepons 1 vehicle etc.. / after s4 / etc

[sharp marten]

Oh by far and I hope they see this and realize it

[wide shore]

Not everything needs to be in 500 layers of red tape. Just be fucking honest with the playerbase. You continually lose their respect because of shit like this.

[pine roost]

but again ultimately I do really like this emphasis on letting the community know about stuff, it's been a steady improvement on that front. Just poor wording

[frail sparrow]

"we don't have the tech to do double xp" "our players don't understand the specialist system" ehhhh, you sure about that? 😄

[wide shore]

Second one was just bad wording. As usual.

[ebon pilot]

It sounds to me like metric driven development. They probably have lots of numbers that say that people don't use X feature, and when they do they abuse it or something, so they decide: "eh, we'll just not do it"

[mossy badge]

Poetic it's fine man people were saying that sv is the end but look you getting a new map and new weapons it's actually not bad because game is almost 2 year old now and end of this game is coming
I want them to keep on giving at least one map till the launch of new battlefield game but it's not possible sadly

[wide shore]

That “players don’t understand specalists” article read more like “players don’t understand specalists because we did a shit job at presenting them and our intentions.”

Which may be the first and only time they were genuinely honest

[vale tusk]

Medics need to do better. Medics are butt juice

[pine roost]

yeah that was my interpretation too, but of course that big quote in the centre was too eye catching

[sharp marten]

Being dishonest with your community or hiding a lot of dumb shit is a huge way like poetic said to have your community to stop trusting you

[solar tinsel]

Oh totally, but I'm just talking about the framing when talking about it

"legacy features" "players didnt understand specialists" "brutal expectations"

There is oten a lack of owning up to a mistake or why something they did was not well received

not trying to dismiss the game HAS gotten better

and the post-launch team has done an amazing job turning the game around

Im just talking strictly about the PR talking points along the way

[pine roost]

i mean they've revamped almost everything

[solar tinsel]

definitely

it's commendable

[pine roost]

the dedication was there

[wide shore]

I feel like DICE hasn’t done an announcement properly since the BF1 announcement. And that’s because the ball was lobbed so perfectly that it would’ve been damn near impossible to not get a homerun.

[pine roost]

but oftentimes the reasoning behind something was just conveyed incorrectly

[frail sparrow]

i blame that they went back to bf1/bf4 systems instead of doing the bfv medic way. medics don't have to care about the safety of the people they're reviving. aslong as they (the medics) are safe, they can perform the action and get a dude back who will get shot dead again and has to redeploy. in bfv the medic HAD to pop smoke or clear the area cause they'd get locked into an animation where they are as exposed as the dude they're trying to help. that's what made reviving feel better in bfv cause you'd be safe too when you get back up. now it's just points gathering for the medics and fuck trying ot keep people alive or caring about tickets

[solar tinsel]

totally, and I think the line-level devs closer to the ground have been really passionate about making 2042 better

[plain meadow]

Just do a map design well the first time, then u don't have to remake it again

[solar tinsel]

Truly, game developers who make games dont WANT to make bad games

[fiery solar]

Looks like we’re finally getting a jungle map or part jungle and at night

[pine roost]

it's been genuinely nice seeing the devs popping in here to ask questions and stuff

[solar tinsel]

they want to make good games, and they want people to see their good work and be recognized for it.

It's often the people who don't directly make the games who are often more impartial to it

[onyx mica]

thermal time

[plain meadow]

Wait, where's the developers?

[solar tinsel]

would be nice to see flashlights get more valuable use too

[pine roost]

the ones in blue

don't go DMing them please

[frail sparrow]

it's a predator crossover event map

[plain meadow]

I've never seen them be active in here

Probably looking around, idk

[wide shore]

Course not. I don’t blame the devs. I blame the people in charge of their marketing/executive decisions. Because they continually drop the ball so bad it almost feels like it’s done on purpose.

[fiery solar]

If it’s really dark I bet paik will be useful

[plain meadow]

U can still blame the developers tho

[pine roost]

Yeah it's not like they appear every week, but over the last few years they'd pop in and have genuine discussions

[plain meadow]

[wide shore]

It’s like kicking somebody down the stairs then complaining that they can’t get to the top

[ebon pilot]

yea, why even use flashlights when thermals work way better in this case and don't reveal your approach

[frail sparrow]

honestly, pr guys still make great trailers tho imo

they do a good job

[solar tinsel]

oh yeah I think they have a dedicated team that goes back to some of the early BF days

[pine roost]

must be fun making the trailers

[plain meadow]

That's at least a positive thing about BF2042 the cinematics are good

[onyx mica]

i like that tunnel too

[wide shore]

The trailers are great

[solar tinsel]

and now I want to say it's an EA-owned production studio or something

I forgot the name and details exactly

[onyx mica]

full of secrets!

[solar tinsel]

but they're top notch

[wide shore]

But they really need a CM who actually gives a shit, and won’t make the studio look like shit every chance they can get.

[plain meadow]

It's like WoW's art team / sound team hard carrying them for years, basically the same with the animation team at DICE with the trailers

they carrying

[solar tinsel]

If I were to guess, their comms strategy is more stakeholder focused and less about the players. Because stakeholders are likely less in-tune with the game, and just want to see the general excitement and spin to.

[wide shore]

And it’s lame. Because without us buying the game, those shares mean squat

[solar tinsel]

Hell EA as a whole is more stakeholder focused, it's why we got 2042 as early as we did

[frail sparrow]

if there isn'ta clever girl easteregg hidden in that forest i'm disappointed

[vale tusk]

I agree. It can be the same way on here too. People just don't know how to revive. They're too scared too. Smoke is very crucial in reviving. Medics don't use them very often. I always carry 5 smokes. One thing I really wish they'd do is implement when falck goes down, she should be able to heal with the stim pistol. Like in bfv when a medic goes down, they're able to throw a med pack. But only falck, since she's full blown medic. I wish people weren't so scared to revive. It's not really that hard. It's a lot of decision making though. But not that hard to be a medic

[solar tinsel]

I wouldnt be surprised if a bunch of stakeholders said "yeah battle royales are hot now right? are you making one?" and that influenced 2042's original direction

[plain meadow]

BR's

[solar tinsel]

"Ok gang, EA brass said we gotta make a royale, maybe like Tarkov or something so, letsdo that but with Battlefield ok?"

[jovial minnow]

i wouldnt mind battle royale, an updated Firestorm still a good idea, its how they ditched everything bf on it and screw it up when they realize things like specialist is dumb

[vale tusk]

One of the best medics on xbox 😊🤗

[wide shore]

The saying “happy wife happy life” can literally be used for game marketing/development. “Happy players, happy life.” It’s that simple. Make the players happy, (as much as you can) and try your best to not piss them off. And if you do, apologize and make it right. EA don’t apologize for shitttttt

[frail sparrow]

that was bfv, bf2042's hazard zone is inspired by tarkov extraction like game modes

[sharp swift]

It did

[frail sparrow]

weird take, but firestorm + 2042's specialists could potentionally be a pretty neat f2p battle royale

[solar tinsel]

I think it a game like that could have worked but as ANOTHER issue factor, there was lack of a consistent vision and follow-through

[plain meadow]

Well, they don't indirectly apologize to players, but, them reworking / adding features / something something else i can't figure out, is probably their way of saying "well shit, we fucked up"

[solar tinsel]

the game had identity issues and that likely broke everything up

[wide shore]

We really live in a world where game development only just starts at launch. Anything can be fixed/changed on the fly. Player feedback is so vital, and important. But it feels like at every step we’re constantly being spit on for trying to help. Then getting told to eat crap when they do some inevitable dumb shit.

[sharp swift]

EAs next games have to be hits or the company will be on a downward spiral

[solar tinsel]

I agree a well done, Battlefield royale style game (extraction type) could work if like - developed properly, with player feedback, while still staying true to Battlefield in other ways

[solar tinsel]

Poetic here speaking truths

and it's great to see some of it force its way through. 2042 has become a BETTER game, and shockingly, from player feedback!

It's funny that the moment DICE/EA opened up to more player feedback, the game's reception has gotten better

[plain meadow]

It's become a great game cus they're losing players / money

"great"

[wide shore]

Yes, I do believe that actions speak louder than words. And DICE has been doing just that. But they also still remain tone deaf sometimes about being level with their playerbase.

Today’s video proves that

[chilly jacinth]

Is it real seething hours right now?

[plain meadow]

Not sure what kind of developing blog that was, but man, that was hella disappointing lmao

[pine roost]

I just hope what they gathered is able to be applied at the next game's launch, so it actually feels good to play from the get go

[wide shore]

I would’ve had NO issues at all, if they were just honest. And weren’t trying to sugar coat re-releasing content. Presenting it as something exciting, instead of what it is, is just so insanely devoid of reality.

[vale tusk]

#stats

[jovial minnow]

yea we seething rn, join now

[jaunty fjord]

New trailer:🤡🤡🤡

2042 is dead

[plain meadow]

There should be some law's about games not even being a playable thing and charge people 70-100 euros for a 20% game done

[sharp swift]

Not a lot of people have watched the update fully and only payed attention to the redux part

[pine roost]

this has been said ever since the game launched

[wide shore]

Don’t get me wrong. I liked the last 2 event modes. They were really fun. And I’d love go play them again. It’s just phrasing it in a way that’s supposed to be exciting is just utter nonsense.

[sharp swift]

A law about microtransactions in video games (they suck)

[pine roost]

people simply need some restraint, it's the player's fault for buying it in that state all things considered

[plain meadow]

I mean, it's a business after all, gotta make money anyways, also, you as an individual can just decide not to buy anything

[jaunty fjord]

ye but dice cant save it

time to end

[plain meadow]

Yes and no, it's their fucked up management going for a full > fuck the players > get that bag, mentaility.

like 80% of games out here atm

[sharp swift]

Only buy the game not the microtransactions (unless its free)

[jaunty fjord]

bad year and a half

[pine roost]

it's painful I know

[frank rain]

Yeh yeh Rade wale 🖐️ redulux

[plain meadow]

you right about that

[wide shore]

I mean, BF has been doing that shit since BF4 at least.

[pine roost]

I'd be £70 up if I hadn't pre ordered but that's entierly down to me being far too gullible

[wide shore]

BF4 was damn near unplayable for a year and it had 3 DLC drops in that time span

[plain meadow]

the store ain't the issue, it's them delivering a half assed product and claim it as "done"

when in reality it's not even half closed out of alpha

[frank rain]

Season 6🖐️

[sharp swift]

Somewhat it was the mutch better overwatch model

[sharp swift]

🖐

[low wigeon]

I miss the fun from hovercrafts climbing buildings

[chilly jacinth]

Imagine paying for bf4 dlcs

[wide shore]

I wish I didn’t

[sharp swift]

Yes

[plain meadow]

Studio companies delivering half assed products is the same as if i'd cook them a meal and throw them the items and say "do it yourself, now gimmie my 100 euros for fuck all work"

[sharp swift]

L

[chilly jacinth]

[sharp swift]

I got the battlefield bundle for 17$

[wide shore]

BF4 premium may have been the worst $50 I’ve ever spent

But at least it had content

[plain meadow]

hmm, it was the best money i've ever spent

so many hours

[wide shore]

The only DLC map I liked from every single pack was Guilin Peaks.

[plain meadow]

Can't even remember that ngl

[sharp swift]

Ew pounds
the only pounds I need is me pounding your mom

[plain meadow]

I only played locker

[stone cradle]

those aren't pounds..

[sharp swift]

[stone cradle]

[ebon pilot]

£ is a pound
€ is a euro

[sharp swift]

Same thing

[chilly jacinth]

lbs is pounds

[karmic phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-not-funny-laughing-not-funny-neutral-gif-20709132

oh

embed fail

[plain meadow]

my country is going to war

[sharp swift]

That's what you get

[plain meadow]

welp, cya lads

[ebon pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-not-funny-laughing-not-funny-neutral-gif-20709132

[pine roost]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fall-epic-embed-fail-fail-funny-gif-21341768

[karmic phoenix]

thank u pizza

always a real one

[chilly jacinth]

What country is going to war now?

[karmic phoenix]

how dare you use my own spells against me

[sharp swift]

Karma

[pine roost]

hehe

[plain meadow]

Al-qaeda coming for denmark

[sharp swift]

Ironic

[stone cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-gif-21166005

[plain meadow]

Guess it's time to find the snipers

time for bf2042 irl

[pine roost]

it's not an embed fail if I know it won't embed in the first place

[stone cradle]

[pine roost]

E

[karmic phoenix]

A

[pine roost]

shports

the dust has finally settled

datick you managed to quell the storm somehow

[drowsy shuttle]

By open the wingsuit

[sharp swift]

This whole redux thing is supposed to be like getting drinks before a meal

Stop freaking out

[regal oyster]

Anyone playing BF2042 on ps4?

[willow sky]

check out #lfg-playstation for players

you'll mostly find people there

[regal oyster]

Thnx bro 👍

[crude matrix]

why lmg so fun

[pine roost]

or not

I only speak for myself but a BR is the last thing I'd want

[wide shore]

They did the same shit back then too

[royal swan]

Just few more points then I can finish the bp

Not sure if I would be playing after that

No need to

[wide shore]

Don’t forget day one DLC was a common practice. And happened with both BF3 and BF4

[granite island]

Atleast i get to know what breakthrough 128 feels like

Haven't been able to try it last time

[wide shore]

Content that was done, purposefully left off the disc to be sold for $15

[wide shore]

Hopefully they’ll let you play it on more than 1 map. Cause it sucked on spearhead

[royal swan]

Never mind I finished it without knowing

[wide shore]

The price diff is definitely something.

[royal swan]

Welp now I wait a month

[wide shore]

Or. Make skins people want to buy. And release more content.

Because they would not have been able to switch to this model if it lost them money

So they’re not losing money without premium

But we’re getting less. For giving them more

[royal swan]

I hope the next season has a legendary Sundance skin

[mighty holly]

some short shorts right

[pearl ridge]

SMGs have been feeling a bit fucked recently. Did they shorten the effective range?

Because it wasn't great before, but now even the high-power stuff is barely keeping up.

[wide shore]

They have the same spread as the ARs and LMGs now

So full auto is less effective.

Which makes sense when you have guns that can dump a magazine in seconds

[pearl ridge]

Ugh they need to drop the scale of everything back down to BF1.

[wide shore]

Here’s an idea

Battlefield 1: 2

See what I’m saying?

[pearl ridge]

Shit, I've got an idea kicking around for Battlefield V2

Yes there's a V2 on the cover

[wide shore]

Yeah, battlefield Vietnam 2

Let’s goo

[pearl ridge]

So we get the Eastern Front and all the shit that was clearly planned for V but got cancelled for this piece of shit

[wide shore]

What I would’ve done for a PPSH in V

[radiant prism]

People bitch about that like it wasn’t the smart move in the moment

V was a sinking ship, much like 2042 now is

[pearl ridge]

Was it? They pulled an All Hands On Deck and 2042 still came out a total abortion

[radiant prism]

Yes it was good but the community just wasn’t there for it

[pearl ridge]

Clearly all that manpower did nothing for it

[wide shore]

V sank because they blew a hole in it right after they got done building the boat.

[radiant prism]

We see that now with hindsight, but in the moment V was pretty much done

[pearl ridge]

You kidding? It was at its peak!

The player count had never been higher

[wide shore]

Was. Then they ruined it with the TTK change. Then only slightly backpedaled.

They killed the game themselves.

[pearl ridge]

The TTK change lasted like two fuckin weeks get over it

[wide shore]

And it never went back to how it was before

[pearl ridge]

I like how it is now

[radiant prism]

Idk where you were but I was in here trying to defend V from the people that still hated it when that happened

People cheered when it died

Not those who played it

[wide shore]

Whether or not that’s true, there’s no denying that they murdered the hype it was regaining

[radiant prism]

That’s also true

But again, I think it was the right call at the time

[wide shore]

Had they not done that patch, it would’ve had a lot of steam after the war in the pacific.

[radiant prism]

Did they do what they needed to with that time? Absolutely not

[pearl ridge]

Yeah well you know what would've brought it back? Eastern Front.

[radiant prism]

As much as it hate it, that’s true

[mighty holly]

Facts and true

[pearl ridge]

They also killed Battlefront 2 as well

[radiant prism]

People love the Soviets for some fucking reason

[mighty holly]

But ngl I’m more of pacific front lad myself and wished for more pacific maps

[pearl ridge]

Which... well, BF2 was never going to be good, no matter how many maps you shove in it

[radiant prism]

I for one can do without seeing everyone LARPing enemy at the gates

[pearl ridge]

But still

[radiant prism]

Maybe I’m just not in a very pro-Soviet mood

[mighty holly]

Ngl I wanna say the feeling patriotism for mother Russia might be a case

[pearl ridge]

They killed the development of two ongoing games that were having a second wind so they could make a half-baked pseudo-BR that got further mangled into becoming a full-blown Battlefield title.

[mighty holly]

like you get that urge of power and idk

[wide shore]

I loved V as much as the next guy. I was upset when support got cut. And I always defended it from people who wanted it dead.

[radiant prism]

Who has that nowadays

[mighty holly]

Also true

[wide shore]

But there’s no denying they shot themselves in the foot.

[radiant prism]

Ye

[pearl ridge]

I wish they did a Series X/PS5 patch for V

Faster loading, unfucked LODs...

[wide shore]

And the fans who were happy it died, then a year later were so sad that it never got more support are hypocrites.

[radiant prism]

Frankly I wish they’d not tried to rope in last gen for 2042

That’s what screwed 4 up and more than likely screwed 2042

[radiant prism]

Fucking. This.

Like 90% of the reason I get so mad is because people prop up V like it was some underrated masterpiece

My question is where were they when V actually was on the rise

[wide shore]

They weren’t playing the game that’s for sure

Maybe if they did it wouldn’t have died

[radiant prism]

It seems like DICE may have learned a bit

They’re keeping 2042 rolling now that the going is getting good

[mighty holly]

_ _

[wide shore]

Still as tone deaf as ever tho

[radiant prism]

Maybe

I’d say they have an impossible community to work with though

This place sucks

No one’s ever happy

Don’t tell me I’m wrong

[mighty holly]

I miss the bfv company

seeing the cheeky lads on screen

[wide shore]

“Y’all didn’t like TTK2.0? Alright we won’t do it again.”
a year later
“What if we did it again?”
“Why aren’t people happy anymore?”

[radiant prism]

That was dumb yea

Glad we haven’t really seen something like that again

[tiny python]

Anyone got the images for the items in those events that are coming back ?

[wide shore]

2042 gets some steam
They finally finish remaking the base maps
Players excited for new content
Hypes up a dev talk video
“See what we’ve been cooking 👀”
Video shows 2 still frames of a new map, and the rest is rehashing old events which is useless for players who’ve played since launch.

[mighty holly]

!!when season 10

[tender pendant]

Soon™

[mighty holly]

[wide shore]

Idec about the redux shit. It’s fine. I care about how it was presented

[radiant prism]

I mean, people asked for the LTMs back and they’re doing it

For some reason people are upset about that

[wide shore]

Because it didn’t need to be a video they hyped up like they were actually showing something substantial