battlefield-2042

[tacit sphinx]

don't think so? there were the bundles that was just the instant unlocks for a couple of seasons but the rm68 skin was like a level 70 unlock and they didn't do it for s4 anyway

[hallow sierra]

uh anyone seen an issue where in bt defenders arent spotted when attackers take a sector

[tawny carbon]

OG concept of hourglass. Got dumb down for last gen consoles. Prob could be the implemented, if they stayed with only new gen consoles instead.

I wish we gotten that version of hourglass. The development for maps from the concepts. Was insane. I wish they never changed them tbh.

[chilly jacinth]

Old gen held the map design back for sure

[mighty holly]

Sacrifices must be made

[robust vapor]

[paper olive]

what weapon have a noob tube

i need to unlock the M16

[frozen loom]

Did you play CoD: MW2 back in the day?

[next onyx]

There's one for the ac42 which is very similar.

[spare quest]

oh i thought it was the same

[misty portal]

most assault rifles have a pro pipe

[patent pivot]

didn't hardline and maybe 4 also got held back

[paper olive]

so i just equip the noob tube launcher?

hopefully M16 is worth tho

[misty portal]

you need kills with underbarrel launcher right?

[paper olive]

yes

im just new to bf 2042 wasent sure how to use it

[misty portal]

oh right you have to actually kill people with the launcher not just while equipped

you can do it against bots tho if you're in a hurry

[robust vapor]

SFAR has noob tube

[paper olive]

is M16 good?

[robust vapor]

kinda good

[paper olive]

decent on falke?

o

using the M5

really solid weapon

does PP29 work too?

[frozen loom]

I recommend the BSV-M.

But, it doesn't have a grenade launcher.

SFAR for that.

[robust vapor]

t00b

[paper olive]

im level 22

[frozen loom]

Oh, right. I forgot it's a level unlock.

[paper olive]

PP-29 looks like it has a noob toob

does that work too?

[frozen loom]

I like how the grenade launcher sounds.

PP-29 is a SMG, right?

[paper olive]

yeah

[misty portal]

it's just a cool looking mag

[paper olive]

o

i need level 27 then

so unlock the SFAR

[robust vapor]

you can't attach any grip/barrel launcher under PP29

that's where the magazine is

[misty portal]

you can get a underbarrel launcher for M4A3

[willow sky]

iron sights

[robust vapor]

yus

[paper olive]

is that SFAR gun good anyways?

from 1 to 10 its decent?

[misty portal]

kinda sluggish for my taste

[static prairie]

8.5/10

Or higher

Built in launcher is really nice with engineer

[plush kernel]

Any europeans on here?

[onyx mica]

no

[chilly jacinth]

Europeans don't exist

[mighty holly]

What a funny word

[plush kernel]

[robust vapor]

[frozen loom]

What’s a 10/10?

How would you rate the BSV-M?

[robust vapor]

remember le homeboi doing DICE a great favor

[static prairie]

Bsvm runs out of ammo too quickly

[drowsy shuttle]

Best overall weapon in the game. Probably borderline OP/broken

[static prairie]

That with highpower+short barrel^

[frozen loom]

I love it.

[static prairie]

Just have to play with support class

[frozen loom]

I use it on Casper.

So I can push with it to get my tactical insertion down.

[robust vapor]

High power + long barrel

[frozen loom]

Yeah, that’s what I use on it.

And the standard 5x scope.

[robust vapor]

It turns into the M3 Grease gun

[frozen loom]

What is everyone’s favorite gun here?

[robust vapor]

The AK47

[plush kernel]

SFAR

[onyx mica]

karambit

[frozen loom]

The knife?

[robust vapor]

The claw knife yes

[frozen loom]

Not a gun though.

[robust vapor]

It will be

Soon

[frozen loom]

For gadget, I like the SOFLAM.

[misty portal]

for me it's the airburst gadget thing

[paper olive]

Can i use on falke?

[frozen loom]

I always feel like I need incinerary grenades for when Dozer comes.

[mighty holly]

If only we had a flamethrower

[frozen loom]

That’d be broken. I’ve played with a flamethrower in other games. It’s fun for the person playing it but not the ones on the receiving end.

[robust vapor]

Flametrooper moment

[onyx mica]

mine would be c5 so if i got surrounded i can kill myself

[frozen loom]

Wasn’t there an end life button in past Battlefield games?

[onyx mica]

always go with a bang

[robust vapor]

End life button = redeploy

[onyx mica]

that time i would scream, you WILL NOT kill me

[robust vapor]

[pearl ridge]

I’ve ended up taking a liking to the SVK recently. It was a super rough start when it was stuck with high power rounds, but standard issue stuff turns it into a monster

[frozen loom]

The DMR?

[robust vapor]

yus the DMR

[frozen loom]

I tried to like it, but I ended up liking the BSV-M more.

There’s only room for one DMR in my life.

[pearl ridge]

Also it’s one of the only weapons to take AP grenades

[untold flower]

can you get a weapon to t1 just with bot kills

[pearl ridge]

No, it caps out at around mastery ten

[untold flower]

so only real player kills count from mastery ten?

[pearl ridge]

So you can earn parts on it

[next onyx]

Rpt is fun. Extra cool in that it's experimental.

[amber ingot]

I heard that on bots it only counts up to 350 and then its only real players

Im not sure if its true

[next onyx]

The actual gun, the rpl 20 is set to be the new infantry automatic gun.

Tier 3 basically.

[amber ingot]

Gotcha

[arctic grove]

Battlefield players in order to play BF2042 (there is no internet)

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-gif-4833425

damn

no embed

[amber ingot]

Do we know how long hourglass will be the map for the 64 player mode ?

[arctic grove]

no idea

I no longer play bf2042 cuz my tv died and I have nothing to use as a screen for my ps4

[robust vapor]

not my video but

teamwork is teamwork

[willow sky]

only in battlefield moment

[robust vapor]

yus

us in a squad be liek

[onyx mica]

i like this carpet better

[spare quest]

easy way to get sniped

[amber ingot]

You must be fun at parties

[spare quest]

Making yourself such an easy target floating in the sky is just not smart

[onyx mica]

with a great fun comes a great risk

if i don't want to float i would go to war thunder

[willow sky]

if there is one thing i love doing, is throwing some C5 on the LATV and drive it into an area full of enemies

[arctic grove]

🥱

[paper olive]

does the game have to finish for me to unlock my rewards ?

or can I leave the bot game and go next

[topaz field]

lmaoooooo

[plain meadow]

see, this, this is the goofy looking ass bf i love

[calm bison]

I just went into r/BatmanArkham and I’m pretty sure I lost 480 brain cells in the process

[plain meadow]

go into leagues reddit and you'll lose the rest in 1 second

[calm bison]

Why didn’t Irish just shoot Oz? Is he stupid?

[haughty helm]

what the

[scenic trellis]

BSV is like 3 guns in 1. Love it!

[willow sky]

@robust vapor do u have an impaler takedown video

[robust vapor]

[robust vapor]

let the d0k see

[willow sky]

the longest takedown animation i believe

lol

[robust vapor]

o wait d0k no have that

[frozen loom]

DMR, AR, and SMG?

[robust vapor]

d0k wants more melee weapons DICE pl0x

[willow sky]

fax

[robust vapor]

crossbow fun weapon too

D0k only has one sticc melee @willow sky

le electric baton

remember if your gun is bugged you can always execute/stab people

like the d0k

[willow sky]

oh holy shit

[cunning acorn]

Bro jumped over your shield haha

[haughty helm]

The crossbow needs a long barrel

[willow sky]

someone is hosting a breakthrough 128p server

[haughty helm]

[willow sky]

actual poggers

[robust vapor]

yeah bro actually hopped over my shield

💀

[cunning acorn]

funny thing about my pc I need to start bf2042 twice to make it work

shitty 1660

[robust vapor]

the best vid d0k has @willow sky

if you get hit by Dozer, you respawn as a D0zer

[cunning acorn]

Dozer true final boss

[cunning acorn]

high af

[robust vapor]

man just tired

first they buff him

then they nerf him

[cunning acorn]

man goes up and down like he getting clapped

[robust vapor]

clapped up down left right a b x y l1 l2 l3 r1 r2 r3

[calm bison]

Friendship with dozer ended. Now Lis is my best friend

[cunning acorn]

bruh

i fck with angel tbh

he cool

[robust vapor]

each time i play Angel shit happens

[cunning acorn]

eyyoooo

metal rod type beat

[robust vapor]

glad i t1ed him so I don't get encounter mishaps

anymore

[topaz field]

i wish we get this map in AOW its soo good

[robust vapor]

[robust vapor]

yeah it is

1942 map

I believe

[topaz field]

battle of buldge

[robust vapor]

oh

the snowy semi forest

the same church building used in BFV

Panzerstorm area, Arras

Provence

[calm bison]

I hate the 1942 stuff because it tells me that DICE had quite a bit of stuff planned for BFV

And it sucks

[robust vapor]

BFV is just 1942 with updated graphics

[calm bison]

I want my M10 Wolverine in BFV

[robust vapor]

and removed content

[quiet shell]

How is this game 2 years old and still black screens if you leave mid-match and requires an alt-f4 to exit the game

I think this game holds the record for how many times I've had to Alt-F4 just to continue playing

[patent pivot]

more like unable to connect to server

[quiet shell]

DICE has fixed so much mechanically but this game is still a technical joke

[patent pivot]

the whole game is

[quiet shell]

like I just got the persistence data error after sitting here for 5 minutes waiting for the game to load up and then queueing for a match

I garuntee you in the same 5 minutes I can have BF4 launched and a game joined with no issue plus have 2 kills

[royal swan]

I haven't gotten a persistent data error in months

Sucks to be you then

[quiet shell]

They've been happening since this update

[royal swan]

And I've been playing for a while during this update

[quiet shell]

There has to be a reward for how DICE somehow cannot fix a server issue that's been present SINCE FUCKING LAUNCH

[royal swan]

And I haven't gotten one yet

Thanks dice for making my game work ❤️

[tawny carbon]

Mmm 🤔

Specialists confirmed for the next BF game ?

[robust vapor]

Yes

New specialist

[quiet shell]

God that is as pretentious as "let them eat cake"

How fucking disconnected from the reality of your game do you have to be

[tawny carbon]

It’s always good to try new things tbh

[royal swan]

Damn, I think you deserve a couple more of those errors

And a bunch of black screens

[tawny carbon]

Specialist is actually not that bad. Plus 2042 is great feedback on the new system anyways. For a ton of things for future battlefields.

[quiet shell]

I mean hey if DICE wants one less person sticking it out for their game then they're more than welcome to make it unplayable for me

[royal swan]

Yeah honestly, as long as they make the specialist equipment not regenerate, and not op then I'm perfectly fine with them being added in the next battlefield

[tawny carbon]

Facts

[topaz field]

i think its 50/50 with that comment... Alot of players dont know how to give out ammo, or medkit, their shoul've been better tutorial on how ot use the specialist for exam angel, rao etc...but playerbase refuse to go on youtube and learn

[untold flower]

bro mfs placed 17 or something on the other team and keep yappin about ez game when they get carried their asses for the entire game 😭 🙏

[quiet shell]

because they shouldn't have to go to youtube to learn basic mechanics. A game should teach it's players how to play

[topaz field]

agree thats why i said should've been better ingame tutorial

[latent canyon]

Nah the problem is that everyone is playing by themselves you wil have 5 falks near you but none will revive cause the play her for stimming themselves same goes for angel

[tawny carbon]

The tutorials have great vid for every gadget/nades/equipment/specialists. The problem with the player base is being selfish and not using it for the team. It’s just another BF game honestly. All other battlefields have the standard 4 base class system. People still play the same way till today.

[topaz field]

def correct always the samething ...bf4 engineers wouldnt blow up tank everyone wanted kills lol

[latent canyon]

They honestly should remove falks stim being able to be on the ground so you don’t get ppl playing her like an assault with unlimited stimms

[zenith leaf]

Reclaimed is such a shit map ngl

[topaz field]

this might be a hard thing to code but i def agree

[tawny carbon]

That makes no sense tbh. Falck is a pure medic role. Not an assault.

[untold flower]

i play falck like an assault

i love it

in fact

i play her more like an assault than an actual assault specialist

[topaz field]

I wonder if the devs can code in hourglass rooftop as a out of bound area 👀

dudes are still spawning in vehicles on top the roof lol

[tawny carbon]

I play her as a hybrid medic and assault class. Same as I do with angle, Flack is just better. My opinion.

[latent canyon]

Im not suprised 😂

[sand jewel]

Wait that’s legal???

[topaz field]

lmao alot of people play falck that way

[tawny carbon]

Tbh, past battlefield games I play support and recon as a Assualt class. More than I do with Assualt.

[sand jewel]

cackles with malicious intent

Recommended weapon?

[untold flower]

angle?

oh angel

i dont play angel

[topaz field]

for me its always assault

[tawny carbon]

My bad, angel

[untold flower]

i only use falck casper and mckay

[latent canyon]

Liz is the best

[untold flower]

falck is good for assault bc the defib and fast rev w full health comes in clutch when youre pushing with the very few people who actually ptfo

[tawny carbon]

I use Liz/Falck/Sundance/Rao/Blasco/Zain

[topaz field]

Yo did yall test the LMG's out?! No long spray and pray past 70+meters, I kind of like it you are now required to burst fire

[latent canyon]

If ya play falck like that then you’re on of the good one cause 80% of them just stim themselves and ignore everyone else even when they stand on ya

[tawny carbon]

Those is what I main since day 1 of release. All other specialists, isn’t my play style or type.

[fervent rose]

how do you read that quote as anything confirmed about the next bf at all

[latent canyon]

Tried the portal ones they all shit hope they didn’t make the other ones shit too

[untold flower]

thats literally how i started playing falck i always use smokes with the ammo box and a smg

[topaz field]

your crazy the m60 not bad at alllll

[untold flower]

used to be the pp now its the pbx

[topaz field]

try the 2042 lmg's though

[latent canyon]

Liz is amazin for littlebird sweats

[robust vapor]

M60 pre patch @topaz field in 1st clip

[chilly jacinth]

Rpk is the only shit lmg

[robust vapor]

2nd and 3rd post patch

[tawny carbon]

Look at 2042. It’s basically an experimental game for the new system. I don’t think anything have been confirmed yet.

[fervent rose]

right exactly we know nothing about the next game

it could be a full reboot with classes, it could be specialists 2.0

[tawny carbon]

Liz with the NTW is the best combo ever in the game.

[latent canyon]

Don’t think they gonna try anything like bf2042 again seeing how much of a backlash they gained from. The launch

[robust vapor]

if m60 gets short barrel it'll be op

[tawny carbon]

We do have the classes still. It’s just specialist within the 4 main classes.

[latent canyon]

What ya usin on it for me it feels off

[tawny carbon]

Mmm 🤔 idk it’s more of an BF experiment at this point For 2042.

[sand jewel]

I love playing falck and getting top revives. I can’t aim super well all the time, but I simply enjoy keeping the team together and (well, alive)

Angel however, dropping loadout crates like an American Santa Claus is just silly. I love it

[tawny carbon]

Did you know that you can shot the parachute to make it drop faster?

[sand jewel]

WHAT?!

[latent canyon]

On teammate’s?

[sand jewel]

Usually FOR teammates, not ON them

[tawny carbon]

Ummm 🧐 o shit, people didn’t know that mechanic?

[sand jewel]

That’s legal?!

That feels illegal

[tawny carbon]

O… yea, that’s very true

[tawny carbon]

Ye

[sand jewel]

Ultra-based

Going to try that next time

If people play Falck like an assault, what do people usually run? Trying to diversify a bit

[robust vapor]

I always drop it on teammates

[tawny carbon]

Idk if they updated the peed of it or not. Y1 it was falling down hella fast

[sand jewel]

Menace to society

[robust vapor]

Menace indeed

[tawny carbon]

Snipers*

[sand jewel]

LMFAO

[sand jewel]

🗣️🔥

[robust vapor]

Campers*

[sand jewel]

That’s always funny to see

[robust vapor]

If I'm sniping you won't see me in the same spot you saw a second ago

I'll be r/whooshing

[topaz field]

oh no not the m60 those low rate of fire guns are good, try teh PKP

[tawny carbon]

Lil dick players, I meant tryhards

[sand jewel]

Some of the guns remind me slightly of Destiny 2 a bit. I think I just haven’t touched grass in awhile

[robust vapor]

Pray you don't get displaced corpses @sand jewel

I definitely hate love this

[sand jewel]

what?

What kind of GMOD physics is this

[robust vapor]

had no idea

at that moment I wish I was Mackay

[sand jewel]

Boing

[fervent rose]

its also legal to call an LATV on sniper allies who refuse to move for the entire match

[robust vapor]

when that window of opportunity suddenly disappears on you

[fervent rose]

lesson: dont be afk

[robust vapor]

yup I'm definitely a menace

Solid ass ammo box

[foggy maple]

Is the server down ?

[velvet sand]

https://www.gamesradar.com/dice-reflects-on-battlefield-2042s-long-road-to-redemption/ omegalol, DICE thinks we didn't understand the specialist system instead of the reality that we all just kinda hated it

this is not optimistic for whatever the next "reimagining" of BF will be

[ebon pilot]

A lot of people that haven't played the game have no idea what the specialist system actually is

[velvet sand]

A lot of people that haven't played the game have no idea what Battlefield is, either.

[ebon pilot]

A lot of people that play Battlefield have no idea what Battlefield is

[velvet sand]

This is just such big Ubisoft, "People just don't understand the value of our incedible NFT's!" energy. When you think maybe DICE has learned from their mistakes and is turning the game around successfully they gotta come out and remind us that nope, the studio seems genuinely incapable of learning lessons to carry from one title to the next or something.

[ebon pilot]

I think if they decide to keep the specialist system they probably will keep the gameplay mechanics of it but not the presentation, i.e. distinct characters.

[arctic grove]

Pretending to be rainbow six siege thats what it is

[ebon pilot]

But it's not even close to the load out mechanics of Siege

[arctic grove]

Thats the best way I can describe it, a worse version of a hero shooter

[velvet sand]

Honestly I hope they don't carry over either. I have no confidence they'll pick non-disruptive skills and implement them in a way that doesn't destroy fun. Because stuff like McKay being able to grapple anywhere just absolutely ruins map flow and pacing and results in a tedious experience.

Go back to the basics, just make a fucking great BF title out of the gate. Don't try to overcomplicate things like with 2042.

[ebon pilot]

It's closer to say Team Fortress 2 classes are more like Siege operators than 2042 Specialists are.

[arctic grove]

It does nothing but complicate loadouts and dumb the game down, instead of like 16 different english speaking actors we couldve gotten at least 4 different languages with 2 VAs each

[ebon pilot]

More than half the cast speaks foreign languages as part of their voice lines

[arctic grove]

I mean like fully though, I like the other games where the language characters spoke would actually depend on their team

This is impossible with 2042 though because theres too many different operators to give another language to each

[chilly jacinth]

not impossible

[velvet sand]

If they leaned more into the theming of specialists essentially being merc armies they could have contextual lines and all. But I think they long ago gave up any pretense of delivering any kind of narrative in-game or through map design/evolution.

[chilly jacinth]

but very expensive

[ebon pilot]

Also doesn't make canonical sense

[velvet sand]

IIRC maps were supposed to evolve over time with a narrative, specialists were theoretically supposed to have a bunch of contextual lines that they may have but I can't ever remember hearing. They made a big to-do about narrative and largely only delivered it out of game.

[misty portal]

that explains those dumb loading screen quotes

[arctic grove]

Im not trying to say it does make canonical sense but with how theyve shifted the canon its less of a reason and more of an excuse

[chilly jacinth]

they tell you the reason why youre on a map

every time you load into it

[ebon pilot]

assuming you didn't turn off voice audio

your faction announcer tells you

[arctic grove]

I just think its very simple fixes for the next game

Dont put in specialists but rather do what theyve done since the start, and actually allow the map to get damaged

I think itd be pretty nice to see them including stuff like fire damage so a match could start looking like one in BF4, and ending almost like Verdun in BF1 , wishful thinking but with how fast technology evolves it wouldnt be impossible

[ebon pilot]

Needs an engine upgrade

Please wait 5 years

[chilly jacinth]

engine got updated with dead space remake

[arctic grove]

Id rather a game that takes 5-10 years than have it release completely unfinished and unplayable and never manage to reach the bare minimum of their advertisements even with years of improvements

[ebon pilot]

Engine is technically always being updated

They have a studio dedicated to it

[arctic grove]

Of course with how the game economy is its better to just make a crappy game and put upwards of 50% of their budget into marketing but one can dream

[mental delta]

Imagine waiting more than 5 years, game is finished with a lot of features and almost no bugs, but it's still complete dog shit because of overall game design

[arctic grove]

Is your point that battlefield is just out of its time?

[mental delta]

Huh what ?

[arctic grove]

I mean Tears of the Kingdom took 7 years to make after the release of Breath of the Wild and its literally a perfect sequel and an upgrade in every way, I dont doubt its impossible with battlefield as long as EA stops being EA

[ebon pilot]

perfect
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

There's some weird design choices in there

[chilly jacinth]

its perfect cause you can cheese your way through the entire game

[arctic grove]

You can find minor complaints and cherry pick obviously but most people do prefer the game over the first

[ebon pilot]

Ok but preference over another doesn't make it perfect

[velvet sand]

BF's problems don't really seem to be purely driven by EA. EA probably doesn't help, but BF's problems often seem to be driven by DICE seemingly just making bad decisions.

[arctic grove]

Its literally "do whatever the hell you want and itll work" the game and that was what botw was good at

[arctic grove]

I mean EA and DICE's heads both seem to push their games out of the oven before theyre even done putting eggs in their flour

[velvet sand]

Sure, that's a big part of the problem with 2042 being clearly pushed out 6-12 months too early. But even aside from that the expansive bad decisions were on DICE, like the entirety of the specialist system which has been **pretty **universally disliked for a variety of reasons.

[arctic grove]

The biggest problem BF2042 had was that it released so broken and unfinished while taking so little player feedback that it got a reputation for it, and even though its good now almost nobody seems to like it

Like imagine if it released without specialists because people hated that, and in the current state of the game

Would still be a little underwhelming but not nearly as bad

[mossy badge]

Waiting for new battlefield

⏳⏳⏳⏳⏳⏳

[hardy kestrel]

Yup, the release was so poor that they lost credibility and then had to cave to pretty much every interest group's demand. A LOT of that was good feedback and the resulting changes were positive but some of it was garbage tier stuff that DICE woudl have been otherwise able to resist.

[arctic grove]

It would also help BFV since it got cut off before it was due

[tacit sphinx]

have you heard of a game called cyberpunk 2077 it managed to check both of those boxes

[arctic grove]

And it still got pushed out early, nowadays it's a very good game

Unfortunately they took too long to get anything done because they forgot to make all that stuff work before it was due

[ebon pilot]

No it's because their management sucked.

[mossy badge]

Cyberpunk development started when it launched world wide lads

[ebon pilot]

They restarted development in 2018

[mossy badge]

Same situation with 2042

[arctic grove]

Of course their management sucked, that's the point

If there was no management it'd somehow get managed better

[ebon pilot]

LOL

Engineers are notoriously bad at self managing themselves

[arctic grove]

Their management was also notoriously bad at managing anything and that's their job

[ebon pilot]

Yea but if you ask engineers to manage themselves nothing will get released

Except in a few cases where the engineers are also good managers (rare)

[arctic grove]

It's an overstatement to say that the managers were worse than nothing but they were close to nothing if they wouldn't let the game take a couple months more so the engineers could actually make the game functional with bugs instead of pushing the release to a point where you couldn't go 5 feet without seeing an npc fall through the floor

It's profit-marketing based management and not the kind that wants the game to be fun/playable enough at release to keep people playing until its polished

Same thing with 2042, though it luckily hasn't died

[shell ermine]

I mean its not good now.

Its passable. But it is still a far cry from good

[misty portal]

seems good to me

[fervent rose]

the only thing "good" about 2042 is the rarity of cheating. compared to bfv which was infested, i'm happy about that

its an ok game

[tawny carbon]

Management is always a very big part for devs/development itself. During cyberpunk and 2042 development the higher ups got changed a lot. Higher up can also alter the game schedule/development. Sure release of the game was bad. More playable compared to BF4 launch. Anyways. People complain a lot about 2042 because launch till now. They never looked at the development history at all.

Over all I love dice with a passion. I had faith in them since development and day1 launch day. Look at them now with 2042. It’s overall a decent game now.

I’m a Dice/Battlefield Fanboy. I always have hope and faith for the devs to recover and make a decent game over all.

When Dice need to recover the game and make it very playable and have a good end. They will accomplish it.

[mossy badge]

And I am Call of Duty - Infinity Ward, Treyarch and Sledgehammer fanboy

[tawny carbon]

I was never a cod fanboy. I have to say OG cods on 360/ps3 days was at its peak. Current cod, I just don’t care anymore. They just simply don’t care for the community (atleast Infinity Ward doesn’t anymore)

At least Dice actually do something with their game and community

[serene kiln]

What’s your best record in revives y’all?

It seems that no one revives in my game except me who did 70 revs 💀

[willow sky]

mine is 61 atm

got it back when BT 128 was a thing

😔

[serene kiln]

Nice

[velvet sand]

GOD I MISS THIS MODE SO MUCH

Also, apparently DICE is feeling very confident that S6 will knock our socks off. I'm having "have faith, fam" flashbacks but boy I hope they're not just bullshitting.

[mossy badge]

Have Faith

[frail sparrow]

it will knock our feet off and then cancel ze gamesupport

[mossy badge]

bro said dice do something to their games

and community

So I am keeping faith

[fervent rose]

they do "something to their game" from time to time like kill the game with 5.2 in bfv

[mossy badge]

I mean bro what can they do
They must have received orders from headquarters of electronic arts to make a new one

[fervent rose]

i just dont want to see over hype followed by under delivering

[velvet sand]

Another reimagining of BF because the past few reimagining's of BF have all just been stellar. My kingdom for them to go back to the basics with the next BF and just ship like, "BF4 2.0, the sequel" and then build crazy stuff off that

[mossy badge]

They will hype it we are the ones who get over hyped
They have to sell a product man they will definitely create hype
Marketing
Business

[fervent rose]

well i dont believe a word they say and havent for years

[mossy badge]

What a lad

[fervent rose]

its a shame

[frail sparrow]

they litterally did with bf2042 my dude. removed all the excellent features they had built upon since bf3 and went back to arcadey down to the random based spread shooting of bf4. people hated it. and now you want them to double down on that again? nah, use bfv as foundation for gameplay, bf1 for map dressing, bf3 for map design and 4 for content service

[mossy badge]

And add
China

[frail sparrow]

fuck china, add the dutch

[mossy badge]

you said take inspiration from BFiiii

[spare quest]

tiananmen square map

[mossy badge]

bro 🥹

[spare quest]

but yes f china

[robust vapor]

69

I could go for more

but I wanna maintain the funni number

[astral gazelle]

Have faith

[mossy badge]

Have faith

#havefaithindiceea

[astral gazelle]

Frfr preach

[mossy badge]

also rippleeffects

Wait

[wide shore]

You know what would knock my socks off? Server browser, and 2 new maps.

[mossy badge]

Also criteriongames

[wide shore]

Also the fuckin AN94

[mossy badge]

Also the needler

[frail sparrow]

still wiaiting for the spas-12 😦

[mossy badge]

Is there aa 12 in the game lad

[astral gazelle]

P90

[frail sparrow]

if they add needler, they need to add laser sword too

[frail sparrow]

fuck the aa 12, i need raptor shottie

[astral gazelle]

They. Must. Buff. The. Jets.

[fervent rose]

they should fix the crosshair first

[astral gazelle]

Yes that

[fervent rose]

jet crosshairs have been broken since day 0

[astral gazelle]

My eyes be like

[serene kiln]

W haha

[sand jewel]

Buff tanks pls, they get shredded like paper

[wide shore]

Just bring back the Pancor Jackhammer

[frail sparrow]

i shot mutants with that, that would suffice too

[serene kiln]

There is nothing that angers me the most than a medic teammate who ran past me while im dying

[astral gazelle]

Nerf nightbird

Mad fecal play

[sand jewel]

THIS ^

[astral gazelle]

[mossy badge]

[serene kiln]

[sand jewel]

[fervent rose]

[heady orchid]

hey

[sand jewel]

YOU HAVE BROKEN THE CHAIN

[mossy badge]

Crab lad

[mental delta]

Cap the crap dude, cap the crap 😎😎😎

[mental delta]

Yes ?

[mossy badge]

Just saw you typing
Halo

[mental delta]

Henlo

[astral gazelle]

Shut yo schtinky gob

[frail sparrow]

season 6 will be a halo crossover event

[mossy badge]

Bro crab lad is the best lad here

[mental delta]

Yo WTF did you just say you imbecile ?

[mossy badge]

[fervent rose]

if i get a Halo CE magnum out of it ill allow it

[astral gazelle]

I’m allergic to crustaceans

[spare quest]

because halo infinite also did terrible?

[frail sparrow]

fuck the halo ce magnum, battlerifle is where it's at. >:D

[mental delta]

Thanks dude, I don't deserve that much praise

[fervent rose]

bruh

halo 1 pistol for life

[astral gazelle]

Crab lad 🦀

[shell ermine]

Lmao, COD broke aim assist and BF released an awful map in each of their last patches. Idk what to play now

[mossy badge]

Apex legends time lad

[spare quest]

That's why you always need a backup singleplayer game

[mental delta]

Yes ?

[frail sparrow]

dead by daylight

[hallow sierra]

and we gotta wait a month for the k30 to get fixed

[astral gazelle]

Ily

[fervent rose]

we broke the k30 see you in a month 🤙

[astral gazelle]

Pwease add jet pack boost

[frail sparrow]

more likely 3 months

[hallow sierra]

also i found a bug where in bt where defenders arent spotted when a sector was taken

[mossy badge]

[mental delta]

Everything's ok dude, Dice said season 6 map was a really fun one, it's really reassuring (they say that absolutely each season )

[mental delta]

[hallow sierra]

i beleive it when i see it

[mossy badge]

#havefaithindiceea

[frail sparrow]

season 6 map will be a portal map, but then 2042'd

and mid season map will be another portal map for aow :3

[mental delta]

When you look at BF2042 you can't have faith in them 😬

[mental delta]

Mid season map ?

[frail sparrow]

wait

[mental delta]

I don't trust them at all lol, it's probably crappy as crap

[fervent rose]

man is floating on the copium

he thinks we are getting 2 maps

[mossy badge]

But lad you are a series fan
If you will not have faith in them then who else will

[frail sparrow]

they always did one new map.. and thne two or one rework.. are you telling me they only do one new map and then leave work for easy holiday? D:

[spare quest]

new map map rework

dice pls

[fervent rose]

we need a re re work of kaleidoscope

[ebon pilot]

I've personally liked each season map

[robust vapor]

C5s + AGM + AT ROCKET + AT MINE

[hallow sierra]

and renewal i mean u cant really do anything to make it better

[robust vapor]

and AP rounds

[fervent rose]

thats how i feel about manifest

cant rework that shit

[spare quest]

the canadian map is probably the worst rn, forgot the name

[hallow sierra]

discarded is probably the only map that plays better after its rework

[mental delta]

I know but I'm tired of this shit bro, I just can't support them anymore, they must up with us community too many times, I'm getting sick of it

[fervent rose]

hourglass on breakthrough is much better

but that was a low bar

worst map of all time with hourglass 1.0

[mental delta]

Yeah it's definitely gonna be 1 map each season now that there's not any more remakes on the way

[mossy badge]

[ebon pilot]

but exposure is the best big map

[mental delta]

Me too especially Spearhead, Exposure isn't my cup of tea though and Reclaimed is boring

[hallow sierra]

reclaimed is the weakest season map

[fervent rose]

ye

[haughty helm]

what

[ebon pilot]

I rarely get to play reclaimed because I play CQ128 99% of the time

[fervent rose]

reclaimed is the weakest one of the 5 new maps

[haughty helm]

wassup babygirl

[fervent rose]

it's too small and the central point of interest is 2 buildings

not exciting

[hallow sierra]

stranded is a farm map

[fervent rose]

i enjoy stranded and spearhead the most

[frozen loom]

I got 150 kills with that M44 pistol farming solo breakthrough.

That gun is so bad.

I pretty much had to hug my enemies to get headshots.

[haughty helm]

why would you do that to yourself dude

[frozen loom]

Idk. I thought it'd be fun to farm its attachments.

Any sights on it is horrible.

[haughty helm]

and it was?

nvm i was playing with the crossbow earlier

if you want to suffer a little more, you might want to try it

[frozen loom]

The 1.25x sight.

It goes all over the place after the first bullet.

I just unlocked the crossbow.

[haughty helm]

I mean, was it fun? lol

ah yeah

havent use m44 yet, rather use the deagle hehe

[frozen loom]

It's only fun if you're trying to get headshots with that sight.

Otherwise, it's motion sickness the gun.

I'll eventually get to the deagle.

[haughty helm]

Hmm probably you'll like the deagle then

My Casper only carries high caliber

[frozen loom]

That's who I'm using it with.

[mental delta]

https://twitter.com/bravoINTEL/status/1687168216013885441?t=5bbUbdZPRUO6hcguZgKiLg&s=33

Battlefield News (@bravoINTEL)

In a new interview, DICE claims that one of the reasons Specialists in Battlefield 2042 failed is because players did not understand how the Specialists system was supposed to work. https://t.co/4CvFte5A8x

Twitter · Aug 3, 2023, 6:27 PM

Lmao that totally means "failure is never our fault so we'll try out with our dumb idea again"

Prepare to see specialists in the next game

[frail sparrow]

so they haven't learned

[mental delta]

Then they'll get in trouble with their own community and their game won't sell correctly and they'll cry about it as usual

[haughty helm]

Is there any place to actually read the explanation of the system?

[ebon pilot]

no that's the issue

there's no tutorial or anything

[haughty helm]

Yeah thought so lmao

[ebon pilot]

it's really simple, but they don't bother to explain it

[frail sparrow]

honestly, dice should just pass the torch of battlefield ip to a new studio and do their own thing. prolly the reason why a ton of devs left and went on doing their own little neat project like the finals etc

[mental delta]

Dice really became one of the most insulting company towards its community it's crazy, they're saying players are responsible for the failure of something nobody asked for

[mental delta]

No but that's on us for being too dumb, Dice is too intelligent for us dumb people lol

[haughty helm]

Exactly the problem, how they expect people to "understand it" if we need to have two brains

[tacit sphinx]

youve literally been in chat for this same conversation already i dont know why you need to bring it up again

but that quote seems to have been cherrypicked to stir shit anyway

[mental delta]

That would be really cool if a designed group amongst the community could have a direct talk with Dice, like a discussions session or idk what kind of shit but at this point a serious talk between the community and Dice is becoming necessary to me

[tacit sphinx]

the rest reads a lot more like it was just poor choice of words for "we had one thing in mind, it did not play out that way when in the hands of the community so we went back and tried to fit to what they were asking for" given like... actual events

im still yet to see anyone post the actual article because everyone is just being react andy to the bait

[mental delta]

Yeah but that one sentence is really insulting, it's like the guy they interviewed is literally spitting to the face of the whole community, players are responsible for the failure of something they didn't ask for now according to them

[wide shore]

Personally, I didn’t read that as “our fans are dumb.” But “we didn’t communicate this system well, and it’s our fault. It was never gonna work because we fucked up”

[tacit sphinx]

this is exactly what it's saying i think, people just love to work themselves up over out of context sentences

[haughty helm]

Devs from any company needs to fucking open their eyes, watch a few videos on Youtube, read the fucking comments and understand what the community actually want, and maybe, just maybe, show that info to their cash hungry bosses and probably make them see that if they actually listen to the playerbase, their games would be better and hence they Will get more money, is that what they won't isnt?

[wide shore]

“Brutal expectations” is a prime example.

[mental delta]

I think you read that correctly but as a crazy moron I choose to read it as "it was completely our fault but let's not assume that and say it's on the players for not understanding the system"

[wide shore]

It’s very poorly worded.

Which seems to be a common thing for them

[haughty helm]

I would Say that normal nowadays, speaking of news articles

Clickbait probably

[wide shore]

True. Gets engagement

[mental delta]

You're assuming they got the adequate intellectual abilities to do that and I don't think Dice as a whole would be able to do that

[tacit sphinx]

given that they couldn't even format it correctly i half expect that that those words never left his mouth and they were just paraphrasing in a way they knew would get clicks

[ebon pilot]

You don't even need two brains, here I'll explain it in 3 sentences

1. Each specialist is in a class, each class has one class gadget that is always in loadout + an open gadget + a grenade you can select based on class.
2. Each specialist has a specialist gadget and a passive trait
3. Each specialist can pick any weapon, but certain weapon groups like Assault Rifles and LMGs work best with a class role and have a small buff call "weapon proficiency"

That's it that's how the specialist system works

[wide shore]

That isn’t how they always worked though

[mental delta]

Possible too, I got too admit I'm always taking all I read 1st degree lol, you guys are probably more objective and nuanced than me

[wide shore]

They shot themselves in the foot not making it that way to begin with if they were dead set on the system.

[haughty helm]

Exactly, we don't need two brains, was not being literal haha, the system doesnt need an extra effort to "get it" but still imply that is more complex than it should?

[ebon pilot]

Yeah it was even simpler at launch. Specialists just had a gadget and passive trait. Everything else was open loadout.

[haughty helm]

I wish

[tacit sphinx]

god if the classes in this game are too complicated god forbid you play even like... terraria

[haughty helm]

?

[shell ermine]

Or any other BF

[mental delta]

The whole problem is specialists have never been designed for traditional Battlefield gameplay anyway, they made them up around HZ gameplay (even BR gameplay maybe according to rumors), they probably figured out too late about it

[tacit sphinx]

rumours

[haughty helm]

Idk Tf2 did it first

[ebon pilot]

It's not much more complex than classes in general. The primary difference between previous classes and specialists is the specialist gadget and passive trait.

[frail sparrow]

listen community, you just had to pick varied role for each part of your teammembers.. when you people started all carrying ammo crates and rpgs, we realized...you guys are so dumb. so we decided to readd classes to showcase you people THIS is how you play the game... so we're sorry.. for you being dumb at our game. - dice. 🙂

[mental delta]

I precised they were rumors because we never got actual proofs

[ebon pilot]

i wonder why dice doesn't like interacting with the community

[tacit sphinx]

you specified one part was rumours which implies than any of it ever had any evidence that wasnt someone saying shit on reddit though lol

[haughty helm]

Maybe that's what they get for not doing so in the first place? Applies for any other studio lol

[mental delta]

You totally fucked my brain

[ebon pilot]

if the person you're talking to assumes hostile intent behind everything you say you general won't want to talk to them

[frozen loom]

I'm leveling the crossbow now and it's easier than the M44 pistol, imo.

[mental delta]

Yeah toxic attitude of the community is not the reason of the lack of communication to me, it's the consequences

[tacit sphinx]

except they do communicate and they do listen, evidently, else we wouldn't have had the major changes towards what the community wanted
individual devs may not pop in for a chat all the time because this community is unfortunately shitty as a whole and that tends to get them abuse

[haughty helm]

Hmm, imagine ignoring someone that cares about You (in Some way or Another) for years, and then try communicate and SEE the reaction

[tacit sphinx]

justifying the shitty behaviour of members of the community kinda just reinforces the idea

[haughty helm]

I'm trying to find a better analogy

[ebon pilot]

you're making it sound like a parasocial relationship

[haughty helm]

In a way it works the same

It is still a relation between a seller and costumer

[tacit sphinx]

there's no need for any analogy because your point is kinda moot lmao

[haughty helm]

You can't shit on the customer and and expect from then to respect you

That's all i'm trying to say

[tacit sphinx]

except where have they proverbially shat on the customer

[haughty helm]

Geez

Whatever

Applies for any studio

Not just dice

Not just EA

[modern tide]

Maybe the constant stream of controversial launches that have plagued their games for the past ten years?

[frail sparrow]

it's just a shame that the majority of "newly" implemented features are basically stuff we already had in previous games and they're spoonfed to us as "legacy" features. stat menu, squad stuff, better character animations, class system, fixing up levels, reimplementing portal weapons and then adding attachments we already had and so on. and now they blaming the community for the failure of 2042's specialists system 🙃

[ebon pilot]

assuming hostile intent

[tacit sphinx]

except when you read even just the rest of the text in the one image it becomes pretty clear that that's not what was said

[austere furnace]

Need someone to help me with trophies

[tacit sphinx]

if things were how people seem to think they are then this game would be in a pretty wildly different state

like do people just flat out refuse to forgive people for making mistakes when they try to apologise and improve things because they shouldn't have made the mistake in the first place? is that a common thing

[ebon pilot]

sadly yes

well, it depends on the crowd

[wide shore]

They certainly weren’t blaming the community. But almost ironically the article is poorly explaining what they mean.

[haughty helm]

To be fair, is there actually people that don't understand the system?

[ebon pilot]

yes

[haughty helm]

Or where that came from

Hmm

[mental delta]

You spawned in here and chose violence

[modern tide]

Yeah, it's not the greatest start is it? 😂

[ebon pilot]

they probably reached the conclusion that players don't understand specialists by analyzing metrics (that likely indicated how often players chose different specialists) and player feedback which indicate what players think the specialist system is

[modern tide]

Still, I'm just glad I bagged 2042 for a tenner instead of the £100 I planned on spending prior to the beta.

I certainly have fun with the game now and DICE deserves the praise for improving the game. But how many more catastrophic launches can the community take?

[ebon pilot]

like often times players don't like the specialist system because it has unique characters, but that's not actually what the system is

[slow tulip]

https://twitter.com/JaqubAjmal/status/1488913187563098121?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1488913187563098121|twgr^afc41e22de088c56b691fd45951d6b97af16bcc5|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.charlieintel.com%2Fbattlefield%2Fex-dice-dev-wishes-battlefield-2042-copied-bf3-160925%2F

[mossy badge]

dude that's what their style is

[ebon pilot]

the unique characters are part of how they decided to implement the system, they don't actually need to make each specialist a unique character. the gameplay systems can be implemented without the characters

[slow tulip]

Even the former dev at DICE wanted a remake of the older games

[mossy badge]

Dell man

[slow tulip]

Embark studios can make a better battlefield game than the current DICE team

[modern tide]

I know, and it's annoying asf

[haughty helm]

If we think about it, those people that don't get it, gotta be like 1/5 of the playerbase (probably 10 dudes) so it's funny that they're listening to such a few dumbnuts and then proceed to say that the community doesnt get it.

To be fair, if the article is poorly written on porpouse and we here discussing over it, the writer won lol

[mossy badge]

🥹🫂

[tacit sphinx]

can they? from what i've seen their current offering is the most generic extraction shooter that would have warranted three videos on a couple of channels about three years ago

[frail sparrow]

their biggest issue was that community didn't like the specialist system and when playing it, they got data that people prefer the old system. so their answers is they gotta find a way to give community what they want and still find a way to jam their new ideas down their throat too. and let's be honest, it isn't as if dice hasn't made more dumb statements like that before that could be entired interpreted differently depending how you read it. "cough" don't like it, don't buy it "cough" interview by one fo the exdice EA dude

[ebon pilot]

Have you noticed how many Boris players there are in games? There's a reason for that. It's because Boris is the current default specialist.

[tacit sphinx]

genuinely still wild to me that people took offence to the idea of not buying a product that you don't like

[haughty helm]

🥶

[ebon pilot]

it's because they're not appealing directly to me and that make me angy

[tacit sphinx]

ok maybe i should specify a luxury product, i don't really like buying toilet cleaner but you kinda gotta

[mossy badge]

Bro but lad is saying truth if you don't like why you are buying it

[frail sparrow]

it wasn't even about the game 😆 it was about women playing games or being represented in games. if you didn't like that, then don't buy the game they were making cause they were gonna continue doing that :3

[patent path]

I am still under NDA regarding ark raiders so I can't say that the game is a hot pile of garbage

[frail sparrow]

but community ofcourse took that bit and ran with it

[tacit sphinx]

didn't help that the community is made of Gamers who that statement did directly apply to

[slow tulip]

The old dice team wouldn't put specialists, also EA probably wanted heavy monetization, maybe that's why specialists are there, Apex legends is a money maker

[haughty helm]

They're killing women Beauty in videogames!!!

[patent path]

This team is the old dice team lmao

[haughty helm]

!1!1!

[slow tulip]

I looked at the credits of bf2042, not to be insulting, one of the lead dev just have experience with candy crush

[tacit sphinx]

is The Finals actually released or was the spike of videos an early access thing

[patent path]

Beta thing

[tacit sphinx]

ah right

[patent path]

Oh you were talking about the Finals, well their other game is also something

[haughty helm]

It's one of the most profitable games out there, it has certain advantage xd

[patent path]

Making two games at the same time, so fucking dumb

[haughty helm]

Wonder why it was hired tho

[slow tulip]

Finals have way better destruction than bf2042, destruction is a selling point for BF which is pretty much non existent in bf2042

[tacit sphinx]

that bodes slightly better for it, because if it was just launch hype then it sounded like a hyperscape situation of get some youtubers to make videos on it and then they just don't play the game again after the sponsor money stops

[frail sparrow]

different studios tho. both made their own thing no?

[tacit sphinx]

finals is also like... 12(?) players

[patent path]

Both ark raiders and the finals are made by Embark

[slow tulip]

Can DICE still fix the destruction in bf2042?

[mossy badge]

You are wrong lad why people buy battlefield is for two reason
1- large scale battle
2- large scale battle in a large large field

[frail sparrow]

wow TIL

[tacit sphinx]

dell conagher is a social experiment

[slow tulip]

Make the buildings destructible in the korean map and hour glass

[patent path]

Yup gonna break nda here because they won't find out who I am anyways

Ark raider is terrible

[frail sparrow]

they must have gotten all the dice employees to set up a team(s) large enough to fund two games from the get go xd

[tacit sphinx]

yeah add dynamic destruction to a city of skyscrapers

[frail sparrow]

STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL.

[slow tulip]

That's too, destruction is something battlefield is known for

[tacit sphinx]

that will both play and run well

[mossy badge]

Yeah destruction is the third reason

[frigid creek]

Does anybody know if community feedback will be available anytime soon ? Or where is the best place to report glitches?

[haughty helm]

To save BF we need hundreds of cosmetics, no cap

[mossy badge]

And a needler

[haughty helm]

Fortnite x BF

[tacit sphinx]

(ignore siege of shanghai where the scripted levolution event both tanked performance and according to pretty common consensus made the map worse)

[haughty helm]

Make it happen

Save the industry

[slow tulip]

In bf4 you could collapse an entire building in Shanghai

[tacit sphinx]

that wasn't destruction lol it was levolution

mechanically very different systems

[mossy badge]

I have played Shanghai beautiful map better than 2042 maps at least

[patent path]

The building collapsing in bf4 looks good for 4 seconds then makes the map worse

[tacit sphinx]

oh yeah went past this but i'd already heard from someone who also broke nda like immediately after playing the test lol

[slow tulip]

Bf2042 could've taken advantage of that

[mossy badge]

2042 could have done a lot but forget about it and have faith for season iiiiii

Hype

[patent path]

Idk if you have played cuisine royale, a meme br game in 2016

But ark raiders feels like that

[mossy badge]

[tacit sphinx]

i have not played it but i have heard of it

wasnt it just a spoof playing off pubg frying pan

[patent path]

Yup

[slow tulip]

People just blames bad launch for bf2042 woes, but the actual problem is it stripped bf's originality

Bf wasn't about specialists since the first game

[mossy badge]

2042 is actually the original one lad

[frail sparrow]

If you go back to bfv it's like bf2042 isn't even made by dice

[patent path]

It evolved and evolved and eventually turned into Enlisted, a completely different subgenre of shooter

[slow tulip]

Members of embark studio

[tacit sphinx]

but yeah i didnt pay much attention to it but from what i heard the initial advertised concept sounded neat and now it sounds much closer to something that would have made the rounds for like a week and a half in 2020 and then noone touched again

[slow tulip]

Bf5 followed bf's formula

[ebon pilot]

i tried the beta and really couldn't get used to the server side movement

[tacit sphinx]

dell conagher's messages follow the dell conagher message formula

[patent path]

It died within 2 months. The game was made very hastily, and it had a keylogger installed

[mossy badge]

Firestorm was the true hidden battlefield formula

[tacit sphinx]

is this enlisted? i meant ark raiders

but lmao

[slow tulip]

Now a days nobody plays Firestorm

[patent path]

Cuisine royale

[frail sparrow]

firestorm should've been f2p when bfv was brought to steam

[mossy badge]

Depends on mood lad

[tacit sphinx]

is it arc or ark? the second feels a bit too indiana jones lol

[patent path]

They swept everything under the rug, released enlisted, paid a bunch of youtubers to promote it, all is well again

[mossy badge]

Apex is free why to publish two br games I am EA

[frail sparrow]

and also, feck dice sweden for just dropping firestorm support entirely. i wished criterion was still at ze helm of firestorm. they seem to actually want to listen to the community and were busy updating the death loot etc.

[patent path]

I don't even remember, I played for 30 minutes and was bored out of my mind

[frail sparrow]

cause doubledipping mtx moneehhs

[patent path]

Still have it in my steam account lol

[tacit sphinx]

tbf i was under the impression it was an april fools release not meant to really last or go anywhere

but the keylogger is a bit of a different silly prank

[slow tulip]

Bf5 did several things better than bf2042 like classes, couch run, leaning, which also available on bf4, bf5 had fortification which was fun, supply and med stations, calling various supports with point accumulation

[tacit sphinx]

i love lean 💜

[mossy badge]

No
We will not make anything free to play
bro I remember they give sims iiii for free

[frail sparrow]

sims 4 is still free. but expansions always been paid for sims xd

[slow tulip]

Hope EA gives freedom to Vince Zampella on the next Battlefield's development and not force monetization

[mossy badge]

You forgot it bro how could you
You could prone backward and move man

[slow tulip]

Yeah

Ohh yeah swimming but anyway water is pretty much non existent in bf2042

[mossy badge]

EA better

[tacit sphinx]

me when design choices 🤯 battlefield players when they complain incessantly about something and then it gets removed (no they liked it actually please)

[frail sparrow]

bring back bob the builder mechanics :<

[frozen loom]

All vehicles should have an opening on the front so I can snipe the shit out of the pilots.

[haughty helm]

Sheesh, don't remind me the prices please

[mossy badge]

Bro it makes sense world is dying
People say water is life
If water is going non existent world will definitely die

[tacit sphinx]

play train simulator it has over ten thousand dollars of DLC

[frail sparrow]

yer not supposed to buy all of them. just the ones you like. if you like them all, yer fucked

[mossy badge]

And if lad ends up liking at no sale period

Cool

[gritty tapir]

difficulty claiming the battle pass tiers?

[tacit sphinx]

from the summer sale bundle thing? i think they should apply once you play a match after claiming

[gritty tapir]

ah okay neat

[modern tide]

Yeahh, I was confused by that myself

[next onyx]

Tier skips outta nowhere.

It's nice to see at least.

[stiff pollen]

Hey guys turns out I’m too stupid to understand how specialists work

[ebon pilot]

ur too late we already talked about this

[patent path]

gamers when told they suck at the game

[slow tulip]

The game doesn't make me feel the world is dying, in BF1 the single player, voice lines, sound design and the overall atmosphere made me feel empathetic towards the characters and I could feel the horrors of the great war, bf2042 have none of that

[ebon pilot]

there were no characters in multiplayer

[slow tulip]

Bf2042 makes the whole world dying a joke

[calm bison]

Sinai Desert was about as clear as Hourglass was

Pre-rework that is

[remote kiln]

its not supposed to make you empathetic

battlefield 1 is about personalised war accounts

[slow tulip]

Just Look at storm of steel

[remote kiln]

2042 is about a narrative of a geopolitical war

there are good bad and grey in between, no person is truly morale

[calm bison]

Shhhh that’s too complex

We need a black and white understanding of war

[mossy badge]

I don't know what battlefield 2042 did right till now but I understand you

[slow tulip]

Bf5 did somewhat better if i ignore the inaccurate historical fictions

[calm bison]

IDK the idea of Antarctica melting and then Russia mining it for oil is pretty fucked

The idea of Russia backing a shady company is fucked

The idea of the US hiding potentially dangerous public documents on third party servers is pretty fucked

[mossy badge]

I agree with you man darkest story ever

[spare quest]

Why

[ebon pilot]

allow me to introduce to you Amazon Web Services

[calm bison]

The US wanting to cover up the whole plot that they caused an international blackout that killed millions is also pretty fucked

[slow tulip]

In bf1's storm of steel the line "you are not expected to survive" got me hooked

[remote kiln]

well ye ofc if you play as a single character for 1/2h you are drawn into that character, that is not the same as a narrative for a war

[wide shore]

Storm of Steel is the best bit of storytelling dice ever did. Because they didn’t really have to do any exposition or real storytelling. They just let the horrors of war tell the story.

[mossy badge]

Through mud, fire

Gas and Lewis gun

[calm bison]

Gotta give props to DICE for featuring a war torn environment in the campaign and then not releasing said environment until like 2018

[wide shore]

First two sectors on St Quentin says hello

[calm bison]

Yeah that’s not the whole map

And it’s only really seen on Operations

I was referring to a map like Passchendaele

[wide shore]

I know

[calm bison]

Honestly I’m just tired of the BF1 bootlicking

With some of the praise it gets you would think it’s the greatest FPS ever made

[wide shore]

It certainly is my favorite

[granite island]

It's impossible to get a match of passchendale btw

[mossy badge]

Greatest one is modern warfare

[calm bison]

Which one

There’s like 5 of them

[mossy badge]

Second one is team fortress ii

[ebon pilot]

the one with heroes no way

[calm bison]

Nah TF2 is #1

Will always be

[ebon pilot]

see everyone loves hero shooters

[fervent rose]

ut2004

[mossy badge]

All of them

[fervent rose]

peak fps

[calm bison]

There is no way that MW22 is on the same level of MW2

[mossy badge]

Both are masterpieces in my eyes

[calm bison]

MW2 had an actually good campaign and multiplayer

[granite island]

Which one

[calm bison]

MW22 had a good campaign and a multiplayer that is just bogus

[arctic grove]

yeet

[mossy badge]

I love it

[arctic grove]

jjj

[calm bison]

Also let’s just admit it - Shepherd’s betrayal was better in the original MW2

[slow tulip]

Even the multiplayer atmosphere is way better than bf2042

[calm bison]

Original MW2 - we kill all of you and lie to the US
MW22 - all your base is ours

[slow tulip]

The voice lines and music

[patent pivot]

ah I remember when cod -- BO had bots

and the mod expands that mode

now they are barebone

[granite island]

Ghost is dead,ghost is alive woohoo

[calm bison]

I have yet to see the pure amount of traction that the original MW2 had

An entire fucking gaming convention was born from MW2

What does MW22 have? Great personality?

[mossy badge]

Dude you don't get it
Here nobody likes battlefield 1 and battlefield 4 or 3 man
Battlefield 2042 is the best fps

[patent pivot]

am I dreaming of Aprils fool

[granite island]

I certainly don't like bf4 and 5

Bf1 is nice but boring

[calm bison]

If 2042 is the best FPS then I’m the queen of England

[wide shore]

I don’t like 4. But I love 1 and 3 and V

[granite island]

I just wish the maps were better for most bf games

[calm bison]

BF4 is good but has been soured due to the community

[mossy badge]

You are queen

[calm bison]

BF1 benefits from graphics but suffers from shit gameplay

[patent pivot]

maybe WR can change that

[celest jewel]

Does anyone else get accused of cheating without cheating?

[calm bison]

BFV benefits from gameplay but suffers from literally being abandoned

[mossy badge]

Everyone says this

[granite island]

Simply go over 100 kills

[calm bison]

BFH is perfect

[granite island]

In a match

[mossy badge]

But I totally disagree

[calm bison]

No complaints there

[mossy badge]

[shell ermine]

BF4 has the most lackluster collection of maps

[patent pivot]

I will miss gunship and missile

[mossy badge]

1 is the one where they finally made a avg fps game

[celest jewel]

With this new update I get kicked out of every game

[shell ermine]

2042 has the worst collection, but BF4's maps are just unremarkable and middling

[granite island]

Hopefully s6 has missile

[patent pivot]

100% doubt

cant fool me

[shell ermine]

BF1 is the second worst Battlefield after 2042

[granite island]

I'm just coping

I think the reason I like 2042 so much is simply because I could use any weapon I want without restrictions

[patent pivot]

the only thing I minority admire 2042 is Portal

[calm bison]

Here are my problems with BF1’s gameplay
-Conquest is the literal worst in the franchise. As long as you have at least a 100 ticket lead you cannot lose.
-The behemoths are emotional support animals. You suck. Here have a blimp that some shmuck will drive out of bounds
-The pickup classes were cool until some dude killed you with a bayonet. Then fun time is over.
-The fucking sweet spot mechanic. Yes DICE great job.
-Substituting weapon customization for skins and variants. Why can’t I just make minor modifications but have to spend 500 bonds to buy an M1903 with a scope?
-Random Bullet Deviation. Why? Why is this here? Who asked for this?

[granite island]

As long you have a 100 ticket lead

[patent pivot]

I do wish the elite pick ups can withstand bayonet charge

[granite island]

My team says otherwise

[patent pivot]

just saying

[calm bison]

Comebacks in BF1 conquest are so fucking hard to do I have never seen one

[mossy badge]

I don't even know those are issues

I was playing it just like cod

[granite island]

I found the blimp useless

Just a big target that's gonna die in 5 minutes

[shell ermine]

One thing I'll say I don't like about BFV's Conquest is how the losing team can capture objectives faster than the winning team

[calm bison]

DICE tried implementing a change to Conquest in BF1 that would’ve made it better, but the matches went on too long so it didn’t happen

[calm bison]

Honestly it makes sense

[shell ermine]

It was overtuned

[patent pivot]

frontline in nutshell

[calm bison]

It gives the losing team an actual opportunity to fight back and not get curb stomped

[patent pivot]

not as nimble as BF4 gunship..?

[drowsy shuttle]

BFV Breakthrough > BF 2042 Breakthrough

BF 2042 Conquest > BFV Conquest

[calm bison]

Literally all of the BF1 behemoths were target practice

[granite island]

Barely anyone noticed that thing in the matches I had

They just ignored it

[patent pivot]

not from the last match

some arse in jets took it down

[shell ermine]

Absolutely not

[patent pivot]

in one swoop

[shell ermine]

Sector Conquest is an abomination

[fervent rose]

the tac conq playlist was so much better than anything in 2042

[patent pivot]

thats how fragile that damn thing is

sad

[calm bison]

TBH the worst that BfV has is random recoil, at least when it comes to guns

Is it stupid? Absolutely

[fervent rose]

the worst thing overall is health attrition

[shell ermine]

As an SAR user I'm fine with it

[calm bison]

Eh never really bothered me

[shell ermine]

I love attrition

[fervent rose]

it never made sense to put people on fetch quests

[calm bison]

If you knew where to look then health wasn’t a problem

They were always on objectives

[shell ermine]

Maybe they should've let you carry two health packs, but I do miss attrition

[fervent rose]

yes so you were limited on your positioning based on these necessary trips back and forth to the health box

[shell ermine]

Good

[fervent rose]

annoying and pointless

[shell ermine]

Makes having a diverse squad important

[fervent rose]

the game is a casual shooter

complicated healing was not needed in the slightest

[shell ermine]

I've never been resupplied, healed, revived, or repaired more in any Battlefield game than BFV

By completely random blueberries too

[modern tide]

BFV was awesome for that

[granite island]

I like the request order thing rn

More xp for me

Evem though I occasionally forget until it says 30 seconds left till kicked

[shell ermine]

And fuck I could be in a tank at a destroyed repair station, ping it, and someone would come up and build it for me. Every time

[fervent rose]

reminder that they needed to add the grab ammo/health off of player feature from hardline to bfv

[drowsy shuttle]

"i think season 6 is going to be one of those really interesting moments where people are going to go, 'well, i didn't expect that, but that's really battlefield.'"

here we go again.... just shut up and deliver. at this point only fools fall for the mermaid charm...

[granite island]

Anyone else finding random ammo puches on the ground

Does ammo drop after you kill someone now?

[shell ermine]

Its why I really don't understand people excited to buy mtx in this game. Nothing they've done has earned that kind of generosity

[drowsy shuttle]

always worked like that

[granite island]

I never noticed

Maybe I just burn through my ammo too fast

[mossy badge]

Lad they need to add Ariana Grande and BTS members and everything will be fine

[shell ermine]

Klingon K-Pop
https://youtu.be/arQcprQvHOo

[mossy badge]

They could add one piece characters too

[spare quest]

https://tenor.com/view/darkviperau-epic-embed-fail-joker-laugh-crazy-laugh-gif-23510600

[topaz field]

Lord Twitter on fire 😂😭

[spare quest]

what is twitter?

[gritty tapir]

so what even is the downside of the thermal sensor array, it sounds like a direct upgrade over the normal sensor

[tacit sphinx]

kind of yeah, i think it's just preference