battlefield-2042

[proven obsidian]

[patent path]

it just posts gibberish about xbox live every month

[proven obsidian]

buy gamepass

i'll join him

[patent path]

already permanently subscribed to gamepass

[proven obsidian]

[patent path]

I haven't played a game using gamepass for 5 months

[proven obsidian]

Last time I tried gamepass was for Halo MCC and ...yeah, it was not a great experience.

[patent path]

why not

mcc is good

[proven obsidian]

I always give my codes or free months to friends because I don't have the use for it

[patent path]

good as in it's a good sandbox

halo as a series is shit

[proven obsidian]

Not at launch + gamepass issues with button layouts, no possibilities to rebind etc etc

[proven obsidian]

you say what again

[patent path]

You heard me

[proven obsidian]

I think I'm starting to hate cats.

We're done here.

[patent path]

only good halo game are combat evolved and reach

[proven obsidian]

[patent path]

odst kinda, slightly

[plush echo]

Drx or sws 10 ?

[patent path]

halo 2 sucked so much it made me hate halo

let's not even talk about infinite

imagine copying far cry and sucking at it

[proven obsidian]

[plush echo]

Which one is best for a long ranged stealthy sniper

[proven obsidian]

DXR has better range

[patent path]

drx has the best range

[plush echo]

I was thinking of that since I just unlocked it. Those tier 1 skins be hard to get tho

[proven obsidian]

eh, it's just takes time

nothing crazy about them

[plush echo]

Yeah a lot of time

[proven obsidian]

You can play Rush XL to get them faster

it's a meat grinder so you get a bunch of kills fast

[plush echo]

Alr thanks 🙏🏽

[proven obsidian]

if you can hit your shots

[plush echo]

I can, although I haven’t tried drx yet

[karmic egret]

God holy fuck what did they do to the hourglass layout

[plush echo]

I’ll probably just fight bots just to get the 10x scope first

[tacit sphinx]

woah

[solid imp]

RushXL is like state sponsored bot farming 😄

[karmic egret]

Holy fuck

[proven obsidian]

Yeah ...and it is filled with bots for like the first 5 minutes sometimes so it's just ...easy kills

[tacit sphinx]

im using it to finish off zain mastery

[solid imp]

honestly just ready to see how it plays.. I agree it looks really strange but that could also make it really unique in a good way that it's a broad front instead of a narrow linear one

just sad I have to wait to wednesday 😦

[karmic egret]

Ready to farm karma on reddit with old map layout comparisons

[proven obsidian]

Layout gives good indicator of "'how it plays" tho. And this one... I mean, it's not good. It follows the trend of 2042 maps pre and post reworks and they all still feels like shit.

[karmic egret]

It's certainly alot better than what we had

[proven obsidian]

Sorry not sorry but it's the truth, this game don't have any map that will be remembered as good or get its own legendary status.

[karmic egret]

Breakaway would like to have a chat

[edgy oriole]

new breakaway is ass

[proven obsidian]

? The map gone from of the worst to still one of the worst ?

[edgy oriole]

especially for defenders bc you are fight uphill all game

[karmic egret]

Really it's probably the map in the game

[proven obsidian]

Idk what you guys are smoking to find any base game maps decent

[karmic egret]

We are talking conquest

[karmic egret]

Skill issue

[edgy oriole]

the map is still a downward slant all throughout

[karmic egret]

And? At least it has a flow too it

[solid imp]

Orbital CQ has always been solid

[edgy oriole]

the flow of snowball maybe

[solid imp]

Extra hilltop base just makes it better

[frail sparrow]

also the only map that was playtested heavily before launch.

[proven obsidian]

this you ? https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/origin/TheMcFunnel/overview

[karmic egret]

Yeah

[frail sparrow]

prepare, he's gonna shittalk your stats

[karmic egret]

What's there to shit talk

[frail sparrow]

i dunno man, just wear kevlar just in case

[proven obsidian]

Nothing, I just found that funny

[solid imp]

Manifest CQ has always been like a B+/A- map imo... Renewal like B or so. Yeah it's open but the pathing at least was always good enough in CQ.

[frail sparrow]

also what's with dice and thinking big ass random spread is what we want? they went from ok in bf3, to eh in 4, then overthetop bad in bf1. finally removed in bfv and added in launch 2042, toned it down and now bringing it back full again

[mossy badge]

This is hourglass map rework?

[karmic egret]

Yes

Not sure if it's 128 layout or 64

[proven obsidian]

The issues I have with 2042 maps is there is no consistence, no boudaries, red zone is trash 90% of the time, spawns are dogshit, flag placement could be better and the global idea of "sectors" is a failure and poorly thought (and never been touched or tweaked since). I can rant about hours about 2042 maps

[solid imp]

100% agreed on the spawn part there, I feel like that contributes massively to the bad impression of various fighting areas on a bunch of maps

Like why am I spawning 250m away from a flag just because it's contested by like... 2 people

[frail sparrow]

gotta say, hourglass rework is not what i wanted so far. breakaway was the standard i expected. but instead we're getting a rework similar to the earlier ones where it just feels it's made smaller and some extra props here and there.

[arctic grove]

If only the developers listened to us

[proven obsidian]

Add to that poor gunplay with minimum to no skill required, blend vistas, poor readability overall even with "class system" and again poor boundaries creates pure and random chaos everywhere and there is absolutely no flow

A map can look cool, have cool assets, have cool moments and super tornados with sharks in them. If it plays like shit, smell like shit it is probably shit.

[mossy badge]

Bro what you saying is already said when the game launched
Tell me how you feeling about hourglass rework

[solid imp]

See now I don't necessarily agree with all of that stack of issues... I don't necessarily care about what loadout the enemy has at any given moment as much as some do. I never cared as much about "But how can I know if they have a rocket launcher" standpoint

[proven obsidian]

Based on layout only from image : from 1/10 to 3/10 hooray

[frail sparrow]

speaking of spawning issues. Why did dice remove their fucking spawn protection they got ready and implemented in bfv. it's fecking genius that you don't spawn when your teammate is in danger. plus the ability to watch them for a bit to see if it's clear to spawn. it was all there, dice.

[proven obsidian]

You may have never cared but you were aware of it. A simple glimpse of an Assault skin (depending on factions) in BF4 gives you enough information about the dude in front of you. Caring is one thing. Wanting it be removed because someone decided to "why not lol", it's...an other discussion

[mossy badge]

I think they succeeded then
It was a rework project that was a very long one I am not sure but I think more than 1 and a half year finally game is finished 🏁

Battlefield III-III time now

[strong snow]

[solid imp]

That's fair but without removing operators entirely it's not going to end up where you want it... and that was never going to happen lol

that has to go on the "next bf" wishlist

[proven obsidian]

No matter the sparkles you add to my plate. 2042 will remain to me a substandard husk of a game and a direct disrespect to a franchise and its playerbase. Having fun, getting it better yatatata ok. We get it. But no. This game is irredeemable. No matter what they do to it.

[solid imp]

Sparkles are tasty though 😄

✨

[shell ermine]

Do people actually issue or request squad orders in 2042? I haven't done either since they are entirely irrelevant with no Squad Requisitions

[solid imp]

We will see now they've added that in, whether it gets used

[shell ermine]

Correct

[solid imp]

I'm sure there will be a weekly BP mission associated with squad orders

to encourage people to try it out

[frail sparrow]

cosmetics aren't going to go away though. yer thinking people want to look the same, but sadly ain't true. cosmetics are the biggest money in the game industry atm and see how excited people can be over new skin bundles. and if you say: well, they can make different characters/skins for assault class... whats the difference with the specialists then?

[mossy badge]

I am happy that 2042 is finished and I am waiting for next one

[solid imp]

if there's not it's a missed opportunity to familiarize folks with a "new" thing

[proven obsidian]

Yeah whatever. They killed all hope and expectations for a lot of people. I'll watch the trailer for multiplayer (do not care about solo or coop) and will decide if I burry an other beloved franchise of mine or decide to play it, year later when it's "fixed".

Modern gaming for ya

[mossy badge]

What other franchise bro is it cod or Ubisoft games

[solid imp]

If I have fun on any given day with a game then it was worth the money... some days I get mad at something about it but usually it's more like getting outshot or outplayed more often than I can handle, not anything the game did to me

I have fun playing 2042 so I'm glad I spent the money ¯_(ツ)_/¯

can't speak for others' experiences obviously

[willow sky]

nothin like spamming airburst the entire game

[proven obsidian]

And on that, we're different. Good for you and kinda envious but ...I'm not like that

[limber orbit]

I got tons of fun in 2042 as well

[proven obsidian]

Like I usually say : It is what it is

[tawny carbon]

BattleBit General chat was fun today.

[next onyx]

I have no intention of adding fuel the fire however. This remake already looks awful.

[solid imp]

But poor [AI]CW3.Ramirez and [AI]LT.Smith...

[patent path]

I pre-ordered homefront 2 and halo infinite campaign, I don't think anyone could top being that stupid

[proven obsidian]

Cyberpunk / 2042 / No Man's Sky

sya that again

[limber orbit]

I pre ordered no man's sky

[tawny carbon]

I got muted for 12 hours for spamming copy pasta for 15 whole mins straight. Mods on BattleBit server is very corrupt and very powerful.

[patent path]

I also pre ordered those lmao

[proven obsidian]

[limber orbit]

You spammed a copy pasta? And the admins are corrupt lol

[patent path]

but at least they are enjoyable now

[ebon pilot]

I pre-ordered No Man's Sky and then made $850 from some work I did for the NMS modding community

[proven obsidian]

And you know the funny part about all those ? The last straw was and still is 2042

[patent path]

cyberpunk and no man's sky are subjectively really good games now

[tawny carbon]

Obviously I’m not doing that here, but I did it for the funny there.

[frail sparrow]

i like 2042 to play now, but i do regret preordering it. i bought into the idea that they learned from their mistakes in bfv, but instead watched them repeat it and even make it worse. people that said bfv had less content than bf1 etc...just fecking look at the content drops in 2042. exclude the reworks and how much content have they really added? 5 maps, 14 guns, 5 gadgets, 5 vehicles and 4 specialists.

[mossy badge]

That's a lot bro

[limber orbit]

Never is

The last straw keb

Lol

[proven obsidian]

Cyberpunk will still remain the overpromised and undercooked game it is but they did improve it. I think the real launch will be their DLC coming up. NMS on the other hand truly redeemed itself

[next onyx]

I don't think 2042 is terrible now and worth a play but a lot of the issues present are things that partain to its development hell.

[mossy badge]

Will they add wall run

[solid imp]

But it's slightly misleading.. you can't detach the topics entirely because it's the same teams that would do reworks as new items. If you accept the premise that they switched strategies to work on fixing, then all the rest makes sense about limited content.

[tawny carbon]

Rework layout. Needs to be hella better for the map. I would say.

[wooden berry]

though I agree with Cyberpunk being underwhelming and undercooked at launch, but lets not forget Anthem lol

[patent path]

I really like the game as it is now, the story is great, the gameplay is also good. I don't think they overpromised anything, it was overhyped though

[next onyx]

The development history angers me more than anything.

[shell ermine]

Its not a good RPG though

[proven obsidian]

I don't think so @mossy badge but they are planning a "soft reboot" on core game mecanics if I saw that correctly

[mossy badge]

Hmmm sad man

[tawny carbon]

Bruh, 2042 development was hell and they rushed the last second. To make it the normal battlefield system.

[mossy badge]

[proven obsidian]

I had the chance to get an early taste of it and saw the doom before even beta hit public...Oh boy

[patent path]

I think it has serviceable rpg elements, of course it's not fallout 2-like rpg, but it's good enough for a shooter

the dlc update will change a lot though

[proven obsidian]

What a waste and also the "remake" never happened because they seemed to not care enough at EA / BioWare

[shell ermine]

I just hope they've learned from 2042

[solid imp]

I mean we always hope that 😄

[frail sparrow]

but then why not start the ACTUAL content drops AFTER the fixing? instead they just say: thanks for the 120 bucks, we finished it after 2 years and now we're gonna take your 60 dollars to do it all over again. what did they do during bfv? spent 1 years of bug fixing AND release content on the side. now they just spun the narrative as in "were so bad, we fix the bad, no time for content anymore" when they showcased they could during bfv, where they were also camping with covid issues.

[next onyx]

Let's see if the higher ups truly learn from 2042.

Probably not.

[proven obsidian]

I enjoyed my playthrough but I'll never forgive CDProjekt to have crushed and spit in their fans mouth after years of "good faith" and good esteem.

[limber orbit]

Higher ups don't learn

[solid imp]

Until it hits them in the wallet

Which 2042 did

[next onyx]

Because they don't look at making good makes they just want to squeeze money.

[mossy badge]

Higher ups make maps 🤔

[solid imp]

Never let the officer make the map

[next onyx]

Vince being up there gives me hope but I don't care.

[patent path]

you can't really put all the blame on them, cp2077 was released early because people were sending death threats to the devs' home adresses

[shell ermine]

I just want Battlefield V Redeploy Edition with console crossplay, current gen optimizations, a RSP, and Eastern Front and post-D Day Western Front content

[edgy oriole]

they need a change up of producers imo

[remote kiln]

was already implemented, it came with the DLC update

[tawny carbon]

All we can do is wait for the next battlefield game.

[patent path]

let's go play world war 3 guys, remember that hunk of shit?

[shell ermine]

Rename it Battlefield 1944 and we are golden

[solid imp]

oh lord

[tawny carbon]

If it’s worse than 2042. Sheesh 🙄 that’s bad. For the start.

[solid imp]

ww3 had legit potential but it just never felt good to play

[edgy oriole]

my.games servers are ass. if they wouldve went with someone else it couldve been better

[tawny carbon]

^

[patent path]

extremely bad faith from the developer. Intentionally throttled the download speed on their launcher so you couldn't refund

[solid imp]

oof

didn't know that part

[edgy oriole]

my only gripe about it is the server issues.

[ebon pilot]

Do you want the long explanation or the short explanation?

[patent path]

they then made it f2p with battlepass but never fixed the game breaking issues

[tawny carbon]

When WW3 first dropped. So much cheaters. It was almost unplayable.

[solid imp]

Throttling to prevent refund is the ultimate rapid-fire planned obsolescence 😄

[tawny carbon]

Or was that F2P start of the era?

[frail sparrow]

no, i just wished they finished bfv so i could atleast say..well, atleast we still have bfv and no issues with anticheat and stuff

[patent path]

it was during the f2p launch

lots of cheaters

[tawny carbon]

What I figured.

[patent path]

20$ gun skin tho hooray

[proven obsidian]

Oh cool. Might do a new playthrough soon-ish

[shell ermine]

I just want another WWII Battlefield

[tawny carbon]

Normal F2P cheaters be like:

[shell ermine]

I've enjoyed, even loved modern setting Battlefield games but my heart lies in WWII as a setting for shooters

[ebon pilot]

WWII == slow and i don't like it

future == fast and so i like it

[solid imp]

gun skins sell.. that's not even money grubbing that's just taking money gamers are willingly putting on the table

[proven obsidian]

Saw that the other day

[tawny carbon]

My top fav BF was 4 for all time.

[mossy badge]

Bro ppsh fire rate is awesome tho

[next onyx]

The direction of the devs.

Cause we said it earlier, DICE isn't bad but they need good leadership.

[proven obsidian]

We can find common ground and say : both.

[tawny carbon]

This needs to be heard.

[shell ermine]

I know they'd never do it but my dream is for them to re-release BFV with some QoL updates, balance passes, and new content and call it 1944.

I stand by my assertion that BFV has the best gameplay of any Battlefield post-BF3

[next onyx]

Wouldn't be etnirely against that but I'm just simply trying to be fair.

[frail sparrow]

i agree

[patent path]

I feel like instead of pulling the plug on portal, they could have added more 1942 or bf5 contents. I have no idea why they are focusing on singleplayer for the next bf

[ebon pilot]

because people wouldn't shut up about how they wanted a campaign even though nobody plays it

[patent path]

campaign has never been the focus of bf, it has always been kinda shit, why start now

[solid imp]

lol lack of SP was on par with lack of voice 😄

[remote kiln]

they are focusing on it because whether you play it or not it's critical to the franchise as a whole

[proven obsidian]

I am no witch hunt nor someone with the required set of skills to be a game dev. But I'm sorry, some developers have just massive egos and will never admit they're wrong. You can blame higher ups and EA all you want, at the end of the day, it's not EA who's responsible to the map design in 2042 for example.

[solid imp]

people were asking for it in a big way tbf

[mossy badge]

I play campaign

[remote kiln]

things are bigger than "why do they do X thing"

[shell ermine]

Like COD has started campaign early access so people actually play them now

[patent path]

lol

[fervent rose]

cod campaigns are much better than bf campaigns too

[solid imp]

But couldn't you say that embarking on a long journey to fix a game that received historically low ratings is, in a way, admitting they're wrong?

[remote kiln]

at the end of the day a franchise has to have an identity, and battlefield just doesn't have that, which is why you need a campaign, if you care about it or not, to establish a brand reputation for the title

[tawny carbon]

Campaign is what one thing about the OG BF games were fun. It was fun to actually learn about the characters. And play along with them.

[frail sparrow]

people also clamored for a lack of SP in hopes that dice would then fully focus on mp and make it solid...well we got 2042 and shows dice still doesn't 😄

[shell ermine]

They haven't been as good lately now that they've toned downed the bombastic Michael Bay fun shit

[fervent rose]

can you imagine the 2042 that would have released if they also had to make a campaign too

[next onyx]

Cue Alan kurtz.

[shell ermine]

I resent that Hazard Zone exists

[ebon pilot]

It's a multifaceted problem, but ultimately, management are supposed to be leaders. If something is subpar in the final product, they've made a mistake letting it get through into it.

[shell ermine]

Its keeping me from getting the Platinum trophy

[mossy badge]

Best game mode

[next onyx]

I've heard bits here and there about the development for this game.

[tawny carbon]

What the core of 2042 is based off of.

[frail sparrow]

never proven

[next onyx]

With the issues being linked to the mid development engine "upgrade"

And then shitty higher ups.

[patent path]

pre-frostbite bf were just battle simulators with offline and coop against bots, they sold really well. They didn't need a campaign. it's really not needed

[tawny carbon]

Everything lined up from the development hell.

They showed off Hazard Zone way more than the game itself.

[fervent rose]

or maybe they just tried to do too much

[remote kiln]

it's a generally outdated view and it doesn't work with today's shooter market, people are invested in the lore to give them a reason to want to play in the game, the old days of "just a warm sim" don't cut it anymore

[patent path]

hazard zone 💀

[ebon pilot]

They tried to do too much in too little time

[fervent rose]

the game was made in just over a year

not some 3 year+ thing

[proven obsidian]

Hmm. Complex question needs complex answer. To put it simply : of course they care, the are not machines. Even as a dev, witnessing the work you put going to shit in front of you must be hard. But I'm sorry, sometimes they just need to do better. Nothing wrong to that. But when it's been 6+ years of non listening, no caring, no passion, no love and ideas coming from asses, I'm just tired of pretending that developers are not involved. They are. I hope they learn and keep learning because it must be shit to be one for the BF franchise right now.

[frail sparrow]

i dont think it's just "higher ups" though... bfv had a ton of attention of detail to all sorts of things. from gameplay to visuals.. in 2042, your stg44 loses the irons stuff at the end of the barrel when you swap scopes...for no reason.

[remote kiln]

battlefield 5 was a casualty of bad design for 2042

this isn't exactly some rumour, DICE have been pretty open about it

[tawny carbon]

The maps were extremely big. Classes aka specialists, the class load out, the UI. The development was more focused on Hazard Zone more. Poole loved FireStorm from BFV. So they wanted that as the core for BF2042. A extraction royale .

[proven obsidian]

And I always get people coming at my throat because I have a jaded and tired view of thing I love. But I don't find it fun to witness a franchise that I care for, go to shit because of EVERY FACETES. It's tiresome, it's sad and at the end of the day, nobody wins.

[fervent rose]

"people loved firestorm" the mode died within 3 weeks

[solid imp]

That's fair. I agree at the end of the day devs are the ones doing the work even if a producer yeas/nays all the wrong things about it. But the leadership sets the tone, the direction, and the strategy. The dev's position is to execute on all that, so when the strategy is "make big maps because we think players will want to call in vehicles to traverse long distances" that's what they have to do. They don't have room to maneuver and suggest changing the entire direction map design was set out upon.

[next onyx]

I'm tired of gaming in its current state too.

I know you directly meant battlefield.

But it reminded me in regards to the state of COD.

[tawny carbon]

People were focused on the Core of the game in BFV. It wasn’t implemented well and fell off. Till later on. People realized. That firestorm was great and amazing, it did get a big content update as well.

[proven obsidian]

Be it DICE, EA, individuals members, higher ups, the one intern that has nothing to do with it. You play a part ultimately. And that part, we consumers, are in the receiving hand of it. I just try to be respectful when I give my pov. I'll never be ok for attacking individuals at all on the internet. That's a no-no in my book.

[frail sparrow]

criterion was willing to listen and support it.. but had to hand it over to dice sweden and that's the moment it dies. no proper support happened afterwards, no continued live service for it, it should've launched f2p in a time where cod had f2p black ops warzone, fornite etc. no one was gonna buy bfv for firestorm

[fervent rose]

where is this alternate firestorm history coming from

[solid imp]

It's what keeps this a good conversation and not the battlefield subreddit 😄

[proven obsidian]

[ebon pilot]

A developer is like an artist making a painting. Management guides you in what paintings to make and decides which of your paintings to release. If you (a developer) make a bad painting, that's OK, you can always improve it. Art is a continuous process. You can always improve a painting, especially if it hasn't been shown to anyone yet. Unless management says "that's ok, let's release it now". Can you blame the developer for the fact that the bad painting was released when they didn't actually have a say in whether it should be released in its current state?

[fiery solar]

What da hell dey do to hourglass

[solid imp]

[patent path]

idk, check it out tomorrow

[fiery solar]

The only destruction we have in this game is gone now

[ebon pilot]

Stuff takes time to develop, but if you're not given time to develop it, is that your fault?

[fiery solar]

Not in bt I think

[tawny carbon]

Tmw, the full rework. No more stadium

[solid imp]

You bring the destruction in your heart to each map

[proven obsidian]

Yeah, Devs too are a victims of all of this shit going on in the modern industry. They are the first ones affected. It is just sad...Gaming is becoming a hush of itself. Just a plateform to squeeze money and a plateform where creativity and fun dies.

[fervent rose]

that area they removed was wack, destruction or not

im glad copypasta village is a pile of sand now

[solid imp]

ok fr "copypasta village" got a literal lol...

it's really true

[fiery solar]

I hated hourglass after launch but i liked ramming tanks through the houses

Now the indestructible crates will block that

[tawny carbon]

I mean, devs always get shit on by everyone. Also it’s the higher ups as well. And the company needs to meet the deadline requirements need to exceed as well.

[fiery solar]

Shit this map is so small now

[patent path]

me when I work in a mega corporation, working with other mega corporation

[tawny carbon]

The rework?

[fervent rose]

it doesnt look small

[fiery solar]

Yes

[tawny carbon]

Small?

[fervent rose]

that's a big map

[mossy badge]

I agree with you man I think hourglass rework needs 1 more year give devs the time they need ⏳⏳⏳

[patent path]

takes 3 months to approve something then right when it's about to be approved management says no we want something else, deadline is in 20 days, make it happen

[fiery solar]

Kaleidoscope is that big

[tawny carbon]

That’s not a small map.

[tawny carbon]

A map rework takes a year?

[fiery solar]

When you’re comparing it to what it was it’s small

[proven obsidian]

I think it is fair to say that everybody had a part to play and we can call it here. The discussion can go for hours and I feel like that I'm in a position where it will be hard enough for me to convince anyone that the dude responsible for Boris is no higher ups or EA. You know what I mean ? Everybody had a part. The important factor here is to be aware of it and do better next time. Because that's the beauty of it, there is a next time.

[fiery solar]

Wasn’t hourglass the second biggest map or discarded before reworks

[mossy badge]

It can be true

[patent path]

why the hell did you attack Boris lol

[proven obsidian]

[tawny carbon]

Breakaway was the biggest map of all of them, prior rework. Next to hourglass. I think 🤔

[edgy oriole]

all dice devs hate boris

but they wont rework him

idk why

[proven obsidian]

Just the first thing that comes to my mind when I think of "annoying useless design"

[fervent rose]

i mean somebody had to come up with putting an automated sentry gun into the game

[proven obsidian]

sorry not sorry for Boris mains

[mossy badge]

You just said dice devs hate Boris

[tawny carbon]

Boris is just that good

[next onyx]

Better reason than trying to balance out transport choppers.

Which they're actively not doing anything about.

[edgy oriole]

yeah all of them. they said on podcast. and they wont do anything. doesnt make sense

[fervent rose]

ah but they are Gunships you see

[mossy badge]

It makes sense

[fervent rose]

the balance has been reached

[patent path]

reworking turret characters are always a headache. Take a look at Siege's Tachanka for example. They want to keep his identity as a Turret guy, but he's shit as a Turret guy, took them years to finally cave and decided to remove his turret

[tawny carbon]

Naw, they buffed AA 100x then intended. Personal opinion

[mossy badge]

They hate him gooey

[proven obsidian]

I was looking for the word but : accountability. It's important. More than ego, agendas and any finger pointing.

[fiery solar]

Dice going from 64v64 game modes with big maps to Removing 128bt because it was too chaotic. Then making 128 CQ maps smaller and more chaotic

[shell ermine]

Control was 48p and it played better than any of the 64p or 128p modes

[edgy oriole]

if they want to do that. give him crawfords ability and let crawford have angels ability since hs is a weapons seller anyways

[patent path]

that layout is for 64p, we haven't been shown 128p layout for hourglass yet

[tawny carbon]

I mean, when the game first live dropped. It was a running simulator.

[patent path]

that would take a lot of decision making from the higher ups and by the time they come to a final decision, the new bf is already out

[fervent rose]

and 128 bt on the launch maps was a bad experience

[tawny carbon]

Mmm 🤔 I wonder how the 128p layout is.

[patent path]

bigger lol

probably

no stadium tho

kek

[tawny carbon]

Or more points on the map. Let’s be real.

[next onyx]

Nvm the other isues too.

[fiery solar]

128p map expanding only the ru and us spawns

[edgy oriole]

"hey guys we listened to the whole community. so we removing stadium."

[fiery solar]

We have heard you

[patent path]

yeah, fuck football am I right guys

dumbest sport ever

[shell ermine]

Soccer sucks yeah

[proven obsidian]

I still believe in DICE. I know they can. Heck, I'm still here, 2 years later talking about one the biggest letdown I've experienced as a gamer and a avid fan of the franchise. Sometimes on a daily basis lol. It's because I care. And I know they care to, deep down. I just wish they have everything going for them and can redeem their name with the next entry. They will just have to try and try hard this time. Because I'm still waiting since BF3, for a good Battlefield experience.

[patent path]

cradle of corruption

[tawny carbon]

Average new gen MW2 move:

[edgy oriole]

"oh you LOVE playing in a empty shell of a city with waste of memory skyscrapers that contribute nothing? we getting rid of stadium"

"oh hour glass too big? lets get rid of the fun parts and add more sand"

[fiery solar]

I bet the website for 2042 still has advertises the large launch maps

[fervent rose]

more sand is a good thing if they help sight lines

[tawny carbon]

Fuck. I still miss the peak in breakaway till this day.

[fiery solar]

Same

I liked wingsuiting on it

Off it

[wide shore]

The loss of the stadium is very sadge

[patent path]

what's the map in the trailer where a condor crashed into a soldier while they are jumping down a cliff

[tawny carbon]

Breakthrough was so fun on OG breakaway map.

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-gif-21928304

[wide shore]

Enjoy it while you can my brothers

[patent path]

this one

[remote kiln]

as much as big stadium looks cool is, players are not good at map design, and certainly not what is good for a map, the stadium was actively bad for the design of hourglass and that isn't disputable, it's existence depended on the entire integration of the map segments leading from each spawn

[fervent rose]

breakaway

[wide shore]

Breakaway

[fervent rose]

the point was like 2 miles away from everything else

[mossy badge]

Which one is your favorite?

[fiery solar]

Dice should make a new reveal trailer and gameplay trailer to show what the game looks like now compared to what was advertised in the beginning

[edgy oriole]

skyscrapers cool tho. and very cool for design. and sand.

[tawny carbon]

Breakthrough was my favorite on that OG version of the map. Lowkey.

[proven obsidian]

BF3. But BF2 will always have that special place in my heart.

[fiery solar]

My cpu isn’t good so playing breakaway 128 breakthrough lead to an average of 3fps.

I have badass action movie clips of breakthrough 128 on manifest though

[tawny carbon]

OG Xbox BF2?

[proven obsidian]

Nah, PC one

[patent path]

pc bf2, xbox bf2 was very different

much similar to bad company 1 actually

[remote kiln]

hourglass (version pre patch) was very clearly the first map which was built for the intended BR, it's structure, design and implementation are all excellent for something like mass deployments, but it's god awful for anything else which has a objective based intention

[tawny carbon]

Mmm 🤔 never played it. Atleast I can’t remember.

[fiery solar]

Let’s stop making new battlefield games and remaster the gold ones

[remote kiln]

let's not

[patent path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp8KdQE9GlY

[wide shore]

Battlefield 1: 2

[mossy badge]

3 was cool it's graphics for its time was really really good

[fervent rose]

i for one do not want to play old maps i want new good maps

[fiery solar]

Bf3 jet mission still looks new

[proven obsidian]

No. I hate this era of "remaster" everywhere. I'd rather keep my memories intact and move on to something new.

[tawny carbon]

OG Xbox BF2. I still remember all the map exploits and glitches till this day. 2 of the map exploits is in my heart still.

[remote kiln]

the jet mission, is the only acceptable mission in the entire campaign of BF3, bringing up 1 mission out of 8 for a remaster reason, is an indictment on how shit it is

[proven obsidian]

I know for a fact that if 3 released in today time, it will be shit on for multiple reasons (and for good reasons). But 3 did a lot of thing really good. And a lot ...questionnable.

[remote kiln]

if they did remaster the game and it came out today it would be viewed as mediocre at best, bad if you're being optimistic, the campaign was everything wrong with battlefields story telling

[fiery solar]

I was introduced to battlefield through bf1. When vets say they miss the old battlefield. What is the old battlefield

[tawny carbon]

Remember that one map. It was the island they brought back in BF4/1942. It was an island U shape. In the middle of the island it had the underground submarine base thing. Was a flag point also. That was in BF2.

[remote kiln]

lazy design missions awful story telling pandering to the decade old era of you're a superhero soldier who kills everyone and saves the world which was fine, 10 years ago, it's not now

[patent pivot]

then what's the norm now

[proven obsidian]

We don't miss only the game, but we tend to miss the era, the memories attached to that period and so many other thing outside of just purely "the game"

[patent path]

CIA interrogating people right near a focal point for the story, totally coincidental

[patent pivot]

3 copied black ops

[remote kiln]

there is no norm now, just people have moved on from the recycled by every game in history of the same cliche nonsense

that is people expect creativity

[ebon pilot]

unless they just want battlefield 4 again

[patent path]

we just like torturing people in a post office so they can quickly go jump on a train and have a gunfight

[hybrid totem]

People expect creativity? That's weird, last I checked people expected formulas to be followed.

[tawny carbon]

My best fav BF game of all time till this day.

[patent pivot]

remember when racing games used to be creative

[patent path]

hardline story was actually not bad lmao

[patent pivot]

[patent pivot]

it's held back by hardcore scripted events

[fiery solar]

Game developers after realizing they can make millions by advertising another extraction/br game that just has nice graphics

[proven obsidian]

I'm not gonna lie... BF never had a good campaign imo. It's a shame because war stories are often very easy to write and fantasies about...

[tawny carbon]

True. I enjoyed it.

[remote kiln]

not shit formula's which are objectively horrible

[patent pivot]

and qol limitations

[mossy badge]

What was bfiiii story

[remote kiln]

be honest, how many of you actually remember that in the second mission for battlefield 3's campaign you blow up a sniper with a rocket launcher?

[ebon pilot]

"creativity?"
"NO CHANGE, ONLY CREATIVITY"

[patent pivot]

I did

[mossy badge]

I do

[patent path]

I only remember the dumbass train sequence really

[patent pivot]

I think it was the M saw launcher

[wide shore]

I wish they’d copy BO1 entirely. But make it battlefield

[tawny carbon]

It was about US vs China overall. Mmm 🤔 I only played the campaign 3 times in total.

[mossy badge]

But yes I don't remember many section

[tawny carbon]

Mmm 🤔 I’m tryna remember. Fuck

[fervent rose]

theres very little memorable about any bf campaign

[mossy badge]

You played it 2 times more than me

[remote kiln]

yes that's correct, the part you probably forgot immediately after was having to fight an entire army, for some god damn reason, and then magically surviving an earthquake

[hybrid totem]

BF has never been about the campaign, it's always been window dressing.

[fiery solar]

I haven’t played 2042 in a while why the fuck does it say I bought the battlepass

[tawny carbon]

Plot. Six years after the events in Battlefield 3, a squad of US marines, codenamed "Tombstone" (consisting of Dunn, the squad's leader, Sergeant Recker, Irish, and Pac) attempts to escape from Azerbaijan with vital intelligence about a potential military uprising in China.

[mossy badge]

But it was cool man graphics was awesome

[remote kiln]

that's the level of battlefield story telling the campaign of 3 is at

[warm stirrup]

I'm confused, is this a good change or not?

[fiery solar]

Literally tier 6 the season ends in 4 weeks

[royal swan]

Good change for stealth helis

[hybrid totem]

Yes. Good change. Jets don't need the help.

[remote kiln]

yes it is, it wasn't intended as a feature

[tawny carbon]

Irish accused PAC for being a spy. Crazy tbh

[patent path]

something something china invades America, chinese special force lady loves her country so much she's willing to fight against the corrupt government and join a team of literally only 3 dudes, trying to stop a world war

the entire fate of the world landed on some random soldiers

dumb as shit

[tawny carbon]

Yep. Basically.

[royal swan]

And because Irish is still alive means we killed the bitch when we chose who will jump

[proven obsidian]

The last time I found some sections enjoyable was in BF1. But it was very few sections. Overal it was meh

[warm stirrup]

Or the player sacrificed themselves

[tawny carbon]

Overall I enjoyed playing BF3/4 story in one run. It was so good together.

[royal swan]

Was that possible in the campaign

[mossy badge]

That's it bro?
I remember a stormy windy level, a ocean level, a Shanghai level and the beginning and then I remember the choice making sequence

[patent pivot]

why didn't bf3 have middle eastern faction for multiplayer

[warm stirrup]

Yup

[patent path]

the prologue really elevated the game, the tank mission had some good moments, the rest of the campaign was utter garbage

[warm stirrup]

Battlefield 4 had 3 endings

[proven obsidian]

Campaign is not necessary in my book about BF. But a good campaign wouldn't hurt the franchise imo. At best, it can be a good talking point and set the tone of the game if the writing is good enough.

[patent path]

you die, Irish dies, or Hanna dies. It's like Mass Effect 3 with the 3 colors endings lol

[tawny carbon]

It was optional. You had to do both to get both of their weapons. For unlocks. So you will have to end up running it twice in the final mission.

[fiery solar]

I think I purchased the battlepass on accident while having my playstation turned on as I was using the controller on pc to play rdr2

[ancient peak]

I should really start counting the amount of times I die to C5

[proven obsidian]

but it doesn't work all the time

CoD

ahem

[patent pivot]

why can't you self sacrifice

that I don't get

[proven obsidian]

[fiery solar]

It was Irish dies, Hannah dies, or your ship explodes

[tawny carbon]

Kill Hanna/Irish or neither.

[remote kiln]

just to jog people's memory of how forgettable the campaign for 3 was, with cliche lines like this

[patent pivot]

why can't you sacrifice yourself

[warm stirrup]

Or yourself basically

[patent pivot]

instead of letting either of them die

or the ship destroyed

[tawny carbon]

Yep.

[warm stirrup]

You can

[patent path]

ah right, you can't die for some reason, entire campaign trying to bear the responsibility of saving the world on your back but at the last moment you leave it to two people of colors

[patent pivot]

how

[warm stirrup]

Don't choose either

[fiery solar]

Representation

[patent pivot]

I'm pretty sure that results in your ship blowing up

[fiery solar]

My favorite part of bf3 was the captain price cameo

[patent pivot]

wrong

[fiery solar]

It was your ship if you didn’t choose fast enough

[tawny carbon]

You choose neither basically. You refuse to accept their offer. It will time out the window offer. Then you suicide mission on your own.

[patent pivot]

was there a hidden button prompt???

[fiery solar]

Who wouldn’t choose fast enough unless they wanted to see what happens. I chose Hannah every time

[patent pivot]

to choose yourself

[tawny carbon]

Nope. Just afk. If I remember correctly.

[fiery solar]

I very much remember the ship exploding if you didn’t choose enough

[patent pivot]

but that led to your ship being destroyed

I'm serious

[tawny carbon]

Yep.

[remote kiln]

you as the playable character recker cannot detonate the C4

[patent path]

yeah you don't die if you don't choose

[patent pivot]

are you lying

[patent path]

nope

[remote kiln]

not exactly

[patent pivot]

send me video footage

I want to see the proof

[remote kiln]

it's as close to death as possible

[patent path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPeXaMmfK48

[warm stirrup]

https://youtu.be/JAZ49WV7r10

[fiery solar]

There was 4 wtf

[tawny carbon]

There is 4 endings? Wtf 😳

[remote kiln]

the ship was the only one left in the area for bringing back troops, you and the rest survive, but you are on your own

[warm stirrup]

Someone hasn't played battlefield 4 lol

[remote kiln]

which is arguably worse than a fate of death

[tawny carbon]

I mean. I only played it 3 times….

[fiery solar]

Did you have to put in a up left down left trigger to get the 4th ending

[patent path]

Irish said "we are the only ones left" so they definitely survived

they just killed everyone else

[remote kiln]

[proven obsidian]

Campaign is just a plateform to make Frostbite engine go "woosh" and "woaaaah"

[remote kiln]

then died from starvation or magically teleported across the Atlantic

[tawny carbon]

I just didn’t know about the 4th. Otherwise I would’ve played it a 4th time.

[patent path]

the US still won even in that ending though, they regained control over Suez and you just fly back to base with the heli

[remote kiln]

like wow yeah congratulations Irish you and 2 others are on your own against an entire army nation which you're 30 minutes away from shore from I wonder how that will go

[patent path]

ship exploded, still won, who care

[patent pivot]

I don't see it...

one of them dies or the ship sunk

not yourself

[patent path]

yeah Recker doesn't die

[remote kiln]

yeah you can't detonate the c4

[fiery solar]

Which is why it’s sick. Cool scripted events

[patent pivot]

who the F said you can sacrifice yourself

[tawny carbon]

Idk, that’s why I said either one of them or neither.

[patent pivot]

drdabb710

damn you

[royal swan]

Yeah so the remaining true endings is we didn't save the ship or we kill Hannah

[remote kiln]

remember, a massive ship can't see a tiny cruiseboat coming up to it too which has explosive compounds onboard

also how god awful 4s campaign was

[tawny carbon]

Awe, you aren’t nitro anymore.

[royal swan]

Haven't been for a while

[proven obsidian]

Best ending was clicking on Multiplayer and dying to zouzou abuser in Locker 24/7

[royal swan]

You just noticed?

[fiery solar]

Only bf campaign I play cause of the story is bf1. Everything else is cool large scale destruction or something

[tawny carbon]

I haven’t been active talking in the server for a hot minute. Ngl

[royal swan]

Bfv had great campaigns

[mossy badge]

4 was the best one imo
I have played 3, 1 and 4 only

[royal swan]

Last tiger got to people

[fiery solar]

They missed out on a airplane mission in bfv

[royal swan]

That shit was more emotional than that black bess story in bf1

[tawny carbon]

Play 3 and 4 together from start to finish. Great story all together back to back.

[mossy badge]

But I would love to see something like bfiiii

[patent pivot]

just make the campaign bots behave like players

[patent path]

nah, the prologue "mission" was better than all those short stories lol

[patent pivot]

and add fov option

and it'll be a decent experience

[remote kiln]

I genuinely wonder how many people constantly asking for a remake of 4 if they were forced to replay the campaign today, especially the mission with magically breaking out a prison located in Siberia would say after

[royal swan]

There is a segment on that British mission where you can steal a plane and destroy other planes

[fiery solar]

The bfv prologue slaps

[fiery solar]

Want one more similar to bf1

[tawny carbon]

BF4 full game remake. Will be dope asf hands down.

[mossy badge]

I can finish bfiiii campaign without any issue

[fiery solar]

That one mission with the 2 brothers was also sad I liked that one

[royal swan]

And I say many times, bfv was wasted potential

[remote kiln]

[patent pivot]

don't want wr project to cease

nah

[fiery solar]

I only play bf games cause of how cinematic the multiplayer is. I suck ass at every bf game besides maybe 1 and 4

[tawny carbon]

Idc about that. The storyline is very great if played all the way in order.

[mossy badge]

I played bfiiii because of graphics

[tacit sphinx]

i think the confirmed canon ending is that hannah sacrificed herself, obviously wasn’t irish as he’s still around and pac was alive until just before the beginning of 2042’s conflict as seen in the Expdus short film (and if you didnt save the boat he’d presumably have died)

[patent pivot]

well screw you then

[tawny carbon]

Not much people play both back to back in order.

[patent path]

rip Pac

[royal swan]

Ah

[fiery solar]

Why does pac still look like he did in 2020 in 2042

[patent path]

bro showed up for 3 minutes

instantly dead

[tacit sphinx]

there’s also a loading screen thing where irish is being asked about hannah and it reads like he regrets that she died

[remote kiln]

most probably the case

[patent path]

he looks fatter

[tacit sphinx]

yeah that’s the one

[royal swan]

Well she was a traitor bitch at one point so deserved

[tawny carbon]

I felt that

22 years later and that’s his quote.

[patent path]

they didn't even mention Recker in 2042 right

lol

[royal swan]

I don't think so

[remote kiln]

I think there were actually some brief references to recker

they were not explicit but very close

[mossy badge]

I liked Hannah because her design looks like it's inspired from captain price

[patent path]

[remote kiln]

they've already said they will bring back more of the old campaign characters anyways, so we'll see

[tawny carbon]

Hannah was a great model design.

[patent path]

for the next game?

[remote kiln]

we don't know explicitly what for

[mossy badge]

I remember the cap

[remote kiln]

it was mentioned in the podcast

[patent path]

A battle royale

[tawny carbon]

The og story continues on. Sheesh 🙄

[fiery solar]

Battlefield hazard zone 2

Now with every single story mode character as an operator

[tawny carbon]

Probably gonna continue from 2042

[patent path]

well at least some people die in bf story, we haven't seen anyone die yet in the mw reboot

[tawny carbon]

They are to lazy and scared to. I wish they killed off the main characters overtime.

[fiery solar]

Does the new hourglass sand look more like beach sand now

[warm stirrup]

Anyone remember that scene in hardline campaign that was like a scene out of a Hollywood movie?

[mossy badge]

Joel died

[warm stirrup]

https://youtu.be/6UP4LWJWTks

[mossy badge]

In last of us part ii

[fiery solar]

Hardline was a Netflix show

[tawny carbon]

Meh, not enough.

[fiery solar]

Every mission was called an episode

[tawny carbon]

Hardline was the best spinoff ngl. I wished they do another spinoff.

[fiery solar]

The theme for hardline too

[ebon pilot]

yea like with titanfall

titanfall battlefield

[tawny carbon]

2142 kekw

[ebon pilot]

no

not fast enough

and not enough wall running

[tawny carbon]

Apex battlefield mod?

[patent path]

I'm sure if they were to make a 2142 game in frostbite it would be very fast

[mossy badge]

Man I don't want the main characters death but I felt sad when makarov died

[fiery solar]

I want a bf3 DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN but played with an electric guitar for a new bf theme

[remote kiln]

I imagine they will go back to 2142 eventually

the next game? I highly doubt it

[patent pivot]

the round lose theme is

[tawny carbon]

Fuck it, no Russia

[patent path]

would love a return to 2142 for sure

[frail sparrow]

why am i hearing DOOM music

[warm stirrup]

Menendez death tho...

[fiery solar]

Pls mechs and levolution and giant space ships

[hybrid totem]

Call of Field: Battleduty Modern Cyberwarfare 2242

[tawny carbon]

I think they want to slowly reach that game time year. For the story.

[warm stirrup]

Cordis Die will live on!

[patent path]

2142 out in 2142

I'm sure I'll still be alive then

[fiery solar]

No more sequels to bf games

[mossy badge]

He is my favorite

[patent pivot]

good

let it rest

[tawny carbon]

That’s you in the future.

[mossy badge]

New game

[patent path]

that's me now

[tawny carbon]

[fiery solar]

I accidentally bought the damn battlepass now I gotta make it from tier 6 to 100 in 4 weeks

[patent pivot]

how

[pine roost]

have fun

[patent path]

I will just ask microsoft to upload me onto the cloud

[proven obsidian]

doable

[warm stirrup]

https://youtu.be/Vdd5qXPiwEU

[tawny carbon]

That’s beyond plenty of time.

[patent path]

that's doable, just finish all the weekly missions

[proven obsidian]

every challenge besides bonus ones should make you at least level 60

[tawny carbon]

Both

[warm stirrup]

Who chose which?

[patent path]

I chose not to play black ops 2 singleplayer

[mossy badge]

Hmmm

[tawny carbon]

If blue pill and red pill. I made it a purple pill instead

[mossy badge]

You posted it in wrong channel bro

[robust aspen]

Dice prob has 8 ppl now

[tawny carbon]

8? Wym?

[mossy badge]

Around 700-800

[calm bison]

I’m let down with the Hourglass rework

This is one of the worst maps in game

[tawny carbon]

You gotta think all of the dice studios

[calm bison]

I was expecting something on par with the breakaway rework

[proven obsidian]

Are you really THAT surprised, Dreyfuss ?

[calm bison]

Yes

[robust aspen]

Exactly my point

[proven obsidian]

It is what it is

[mossy badge]

Nice recruit emoji

[proven obsidian]

[calm bison]

Because if they went through all this it could’ve come out in S4

[tawny carbon]

Thanks.

[calm bison]

The fucking Manifest rework changed more stuff than this did

[robust aspen]

Why they got that many people and so little work, since launch....

[fiery solar]

I actually liked the idea of all maps being clean with no forts and the players are the ones that destroy everything. But with the little destruction this game has it was just a bunch of craters and shattered glass on buildings

[tawny carbon]

On 2042?

[robust aspen]

Yeah

[ebon pilot]

you must be blind

[proven obsidian]

[fiery solar]

Beta orbital had more large craters than the moon

[mossy badge]

Amazing

[tawny carbon]

They have alot of different teams on 2042. Overall full 2042 team not much compared to development and launch. But enough to support and keep the game running and making content.

[calm bison]

Like this could’ve been so good

[patent path]

People who played the 64p rework early said they had fun with it, we haven't been shown the 128p layout yet, just wait till tomorrow lol

[patent pivot]

no wonder the game idea is inconsistent

[calm bison]

But they’ve removed rooftop objectives

Cut out the only interesting part of the old map

[fiery solar]

Is there work being put in to frostbite 4

[calm bison]

And still left a giant fucking empty space in the middle

[tawny carbon]

I mean they barely changed the set schedule since season 1.

[fiery solar]

Could’ve destroyed the big ring thing in the middle of the map

[patent pivot]

no wonder I am bored with this game

[fiery solar]

Maybe that could’ve costed the bridge to collapse

[patent pivot]

barely anything new and different

[mossy badge]

No sand is there

It's not empty

[calm bison]

Motherfucker

There are no objectives there

No cover

Nothing

[ebon pilot]

they can't really change the schedule once the season schedule has kicked off

[calm bison]

Except sand dunes

[tawny carbon]

Hourglass rework also have an underground system now to.

[mossy badge]

But you said it's empty

[calm bison]

Empty as in there is nothing interesting

Smartass

[hybrid totem]

Translation: Two tunnels that kind of intersect.

[calm bison]

Out of all reworks this is the worst

[fiery solar]

Planted with claymores and snipers

[hybrid totem]

So far...

[mossy badge]

I am counting sand as asset

[tawny carbon]

Meh, still something but brand new to the map itself.

[fiery solar]

Wym so far

[calm bison]

This is literally the last map

[fiery solar]

This is the last rework

[calm bison]

They have reworked all of them

[hybrid totem]

I do hope you are right.

No chance they will rework the rework because bf players are never satisfied, is there?

[calm bison]

I just can’t rationalize cutting the stadium out

[mossy badge]

Don't you think if rework added camels that would have been cool

[tawny carbon]

Now they can full fledged map brand new maps to the game and other content stuff.

[calm bison]

Why put so many assets into one location only to cut it out in the rework

The town is gone

[fiery solar]

Cause they heard us

[calm bison]

The town was really promising and could’ve used with a ton of military stuff

Make it a FOB

But no

Just scrap the whole thing

Who cares

[fiery solar]

The sandstorm is so glitchy

[hybrid totem]

I mean the last "full fledged new map" they released doesn't allow for 128p, so I'm not confident in the future.

[mossy badge]

I think you should wait for tomorrow

[tawny carbon]

Have the community protest Hourglass rework to be better.

[calm bison]

I hope to god the 128 player layout is somewhat decent

Because the 64p layout looks god awful

[hybrid totem]

I hope there is one.

[ebon pilot]

it's probably going to be the same

but now with 128 players

[mossy badge]

But it looks you need to try it man

[calm bison]

I will try it

But from what I have seen I’m not impressed

This was one of the most hyped reworks coming and this is all they can muster?

[tawny carbon]

How much map size they decreased for the rework? Compared to OG one for hourglass?

[mossy badge]

I was expecting camels as a vehicle but I am fine

[fiery solar]

I acyuslly think the only map that is large in 128cq is orbital after the rework but I could be wrong I don’t remember

[calm bison]

I’d rather play old Hourglass

Hell I’d rather play old breakaway

[fiery solar]

Lighting looks nice

[crisp dragon]

took out the stadium, left in the massive desert in the middle of the map

[tawny carbon]

I fully agree on this idea. Old breakaways was very good for conquest and break through. Just keep the new ice mountain changes and the rig changes. Nothing else.

[ebon pilot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850376380822323230/1135636582427263036/Screenshot_20230731-131351.png

[crisp dragon]

also seems like its very russia sided. they can start with 4 objs capped where as US gets 2, maybe 3

[fiery solar]

I like in breakaway some of the smoke clouds are reactive

[calm bison]

IMO they should’ve moved the stadium

Move it closer to the city

Literally everyone would’ve thanked you

[mossy badge]

Maybe they should add cactus🌵🌵🌵🌵🌵🌵 lots of them giant ones too for cover

[fiery solar]

Probably wanted it to be accurate to the real city. But I don’t even know what the real city looks like

[calm bison]

I hate this excuse because Kourou, FG looks nothing like Orbital

[fiery solar]

Do cacti grow from just sand being there

[crisp dragon]

atleast it seems like the tops of the buildings are no longer objs

[tawny carbon]

I’m talking about the comparison. Like the og was 102by202 and rework is now 70by150 for example. The dimensions.

[calm bison]

Neither does the Central Park of Songdo

[hybrid totem]

Isn't Orbital in Florida?

[calm bison]

Nope

[fiery solar]

France

[ebon pilot]

wtf

[calm bison]

Orbital is in French Guiana

[ebon pilot]

"France"

[fiery solar]

Wherever that is

[calm bison]

Because Cape Canaveral is underwater in 2042

[ebon pilot]

French Guiana is in South America

[mossy badge]

Maybe in 2042

[tawny carbon]

It literally tells you on the small world map. Where the map is located at

[ebon pilot]

Hourglass is Doha, Qatar

[fiery solar]

I haven’t played in months I just remembered seeing French on the location and thought it was France

[ebon pilot]

I can't give you exact dimensions but I can give you a screenshot that shows the full 128 player layout for comparison

[calm bison]

Dawg I keep getting the pop up about this bundle

This is the third time

[hybrid totem]

Buy it, easy.

[ebon pilot]

Take this map

cut it down to here

there's the new map

[radiant prism]

Rip the village and stadium, best-playing parts of that map

[desert mason]

remove the tor tank

[tawny carbon]

Remove every vehicle and let us only use tranports

[radiant prism]

Remove vehicles

[ebon pilot]

oh shit the arches are real

[radiant prism]

As a matter of fact make the maps even smaller

And we only need what, 6v6?

Oh wait that’s CoD

[hybrid totem]

Basically make bf a different game please.

[radiant prism]

I will never understand people who get mad about large scale and vehicles in BF, a game that thrives off of its…large scale and vehicles

[tawny carbon]

Fuck it. Make battlefield Bf2042 a full blown rework. Rework the entire game. Fuck it. Full fledged stop support and full fledged work on the next BF game.

[radiant prism]

Sure, hourglass was way too open, no one’s contesting that

[carmine rover]

i love playing tdm. i love getting 55 kills in a match and only earning 9,000 xp. i love tdm

[radiant prism]

But damn, why do people hate anything remotely resembling an open space?

[hybrid totem]

Because they die in open spaces.

[radiant prism]

Some of the most exciting gunfights I have occur at that medium-long range

[mighty holly]

They fear openness

[hybrid totem]

They are the same people who complain about explosives when in closed spaces.

[radiant prism]

The close in fights are good fun, but I love that rifle range

[desert mason]

just wondering when thenight bird nerf is happening? is it next year?

feels like the devs haven't played the game in a year or so

[hybrid totem]

When the devs want it to happen, I suppose.

No no you're missing the point. The Devs are nightbird mains.

[desert mason]

someone with deep pockets needs to lobby these changes to the devs

[desert mason]

lmaooo

i appreciate your dedication to your cause btw

i mean why the fuck is a 2 seater vehicle a heavy "transport"

[hybrid totem]

Appreciate it, but unfortunately this particular cause is lost since the last update.

[desert mason]

a transport with a driver and a gunner, makes sense

[tawny carbon]

Aircraft got nerfed to the fucking ground since day 1. AA got buffed to the max since day 1. What is the point of aircraft when I can’t even play an aircraft anymore lasting less than 5 mins tops. I can’t do shit from home spawn point.

[desert mason]

amen

the apache and super hokum, my babies, haven't really gotten any direct buffs except for the TOW missile

hey by the way, the apache still doesn't have a 30mm main cannon primary gun

the hokum doesd

[tawny carbon]

Wildcat has to have an insane massive buff to have AA capabilities across the entire Hourglass Map. Set of actual being skillful and move around.

[desert mason]

disagree, 600m is still most of that map, will be way worse when rework comes through

and hey, most wildcat players will pull right up next to their TOR tank boyfriend

[warm stirrup]

9 hours until update

[tawny carbon]

Yes that is over the top. But might as well say let’s not have the Aircraft in the game at all at this point.

[desert mason]

so if you avoided the missiles, you'll definitely get hit by the OHK 100000000 velocity tank

[desert mason]

yeah, when someone with hundreds and hundreds of hours into flying does well, it's "VEHICLES OP"

[tawny carbon]

Bro. You get hit by every little thing if you fly in the sky.

[desert mason]

for sure, but in hourglass you can just use the buildings

in hourglass you either have to be dominating E or dominating A, E is the safest of the two

[warm stirrup]

Except Sundance anti tank grenade lol

[desert mason]

if you don't avoid that thing tho, you're gonna have a bad time

pretty sure it has a 100% chance to damage your rotor or hull

[tawny carbon]

Flares, maneuvering or a god their players. You gonna have spam for days. Leading till you can do anything and hide. Rather just Alt-F4 and delete entire game from your device.

[desert mason]

you're telling me, I used to love flying the helicopters

even recorded my gameplay and uploaded it to the tube

[ebon pilot]

railgun tank funny

[desert mason]

but now I'll be doing good and then some bozo who flies the nightbird just comes in and mows me down

[desert mason]

:/

[hybrid totem]

Yeah the nightbird needs to die.

[desert mason]

i mean i dont hate the players at this point

i hate the game

abuse the shit out of it

idrc, but wtf EA

[tawny carbon]

Bro I loved flying helis since day 1 of release day. I even used the stealth chopper and get insta locked on without entering attack mode. Across the entire map or even close to the. Without being damaged.

[ebon pilot]

have you considered shooting a rocket at it

[desert mason]

loving bringing out the trolls

[arctic grove]

I enjoyed the nightbird a lot. Especially gunning down enemies

[desert mason]

anywyas, cya pals

[ebon pilot]

i'm serious just shoot it with a rocket

[karmic egret]

The rework looks open but people are over reacting

[warm stirrup]

Aren't helis op now with hacking counter measures and flares tho?

[ebon pilot]

not really because they can just get one shot out of the sky

[tawny carbon]

It’s still ass.

AA is very powerful after the helis got nerfed hard core.

[jovial slate]

How do you play on reclaimed? Ive only played on it ones on rush xl but I wasnt able to fully explore the map either because I got sniped or that I would leave the combat zone

Can you play it on conquest 128?

[ebon pilot]

this was during a control match

[warm stirrup]

Conquest 64

Reclaimed never got a 128p layout

[jovial slate]

Ah okay

[arctic grove]

figuring out why my dualsense controller ain't working on the game. The Left and Right trigger is just confirm and exit and Triangle and X is up and down dpads.

[ebon pilot]

dualsense isn't supported on pc, only xbox controllers are

[jovial slate]

Does each weekly point give you like 55 points?

[warm stirrup]

No lol

[jovial slate]

Cause you got three 4 missions, three 5 mission, three 6 missions and a bonus which is 10

[arctic grove]

welp im sol

[warm stirrup]

Each mission awards about 5 points

Bonus mission awards 10

[jovial slate]

Thats still 55

[robust vapor]

You need a 3rd party app to calibrate

[warm stirrup]

Did you mean does each weekly mission total add up to 55?

[jovial slate]

Yes

[warm stirrup]

Not sure

[jovial slate]

How many points do you need to get passed one tier?

[ebon pilot]

10

[warm stirrup]

Some missions award double points when played as a certain specialists

[jovial slate]

Damn so only about 6 and a half tiers but plus ingame xp aswell

[arctic grove]

hopefully was avoiding that but no choice. Ty though

[warm stirrup]

Plus in less than 9 hours squad orders will also reward xp too

[jovial slate]

Oh yeah

[tawny carbon]

I mean, it’s PlayStation. For their controller to be supported natively. Like that’s ever gonna happen anytime soon.

[jovial slate]

Thats hard though to progress tiers without weekly missions

[tawny carbon]

You level up as you play. Easy free tiers on top of challenges.

[arctic grove]

I had it running before i reinstalled windows like it was showing the PS Glyphs on the game

[jovial slate]

I got this game 5 days ago and I purchased premium. Im at about tier 67 and ive done all the weekly missions. So every match I play, I get about 4 - 5 points through xp

[radiant prism]

Overreacting….as per the usual. Also it’s a desert map, it’s gonna be a bit open in places

That’s kinda how deserts work

[warm stirrup]

Anyone locking their squad once the update drops?

[jovial slate]

Ngl the map looks dope, cant wait to play on it

[jovial slate]

Nah, but some squad orders defo

[robust vapor]

[jovial slate]

Actually yeah when I play with friends so when one joins mid match, we wont needa make a whole new squad

[warm stirrup]

Can also kick from squad as squad leader

[jovial slate]

Yeah

Bf2042 has gotten 10x better since its release

[robust vapor]

Squad order does give you points when your squadmates successfully complete the order

[karmic egret]

Sinai in bf1 look pretty similar to the new layout

[robust vapor]

But BFV has its merit

[jovial slate]

You can tell me people are getting interested because every new season has higher views in a shorter amount of time

[robust vapor]

2042 people don't really follow orders

:C

[jovial slate]

Good soliders follow orders

[radiant prism]

Every single game in the franchise has maps that are “a bit open”

Because that’s how BF works

[robust vapor]

My whole squad disperses like flower seeds everywhere

One at A

The other at B and 2 at C

Me right now:

[radiant prism]

Even siege of Shanghai has wide open streets, floodzone’s rooftops and highway overpasses are wide fucking open

[robust vapor]

Jump on @radiant prism

[radiant prism]

I can’t rn

[robust vapor]

[jovial slate]

I WANT CQC MAPS

[ebon pilot]

we have those already

[radiant prism]

Not to mention caspian border is a BF3 map and, of course, is more open than most 2042 maps

Half the maps in the game are CQC maps

[ebon pilot]

and don't mention El Alamein

[robust vapor]

El D0kmein

[ebon pilot]

a literal desert

nothing in it

[warm stirrup]

Squad leader management

[robust vapor]

💀

[warm stirrup]

Timer until squad leader is replaced is cool

[tawny carbon]

That’s a dope feature.

[silk jasper]

Zzzzz hourglass 2.0

[willow sky]

thats actually sick

[robust vapor]

Spam orders

Spam request orders

[patent pivot]

SIR AWAITING ORDERS

[robust vapor]

Nah shoo

[warm stirrup]

Spam request orders until leader lol

[robust vapor]

I do that in BFV breakthrough

[patent pivot]

SIR
SCAN REQUEST

[robust vapor]

Just to use arti strike

[tawny carbon]

I agree as a CQB map.

[ebon pilot]

FALCK, GIVE ME AN ORDER

[robust vapor]

Arti strike is fucking awesome in BFV

You get to flush out players hiding in objectives

And sweep them

[patent pivot]

it's like requesting gunship

[robust vapor]

[patent pivot]

[ebon pilot]

(real voice line btw)

[robust vapor]

You're a gunship

[patent pivot]

except

it hails artillery 24/7

[robust vapor]

Except you don't arti people

[tawny carbon]

Bring back war stories into modern BF games.

[patent pivot]

tell that to UCAV users

[tawny carbon]

Aka next BF game.

[robust vapor]

God damn UCAV

[patent pivot]

me whenever I hear that thing

HEADS DOOOOOWN

💥

[tawny carbon]

BF4 on locker from spawn to hostile spawn.

[patent pivot]

uh

[tawny carbon]

Easy 5-10 kills

[patent pivot]

let's make these people hell

make the damage invaluable to players

only vehicles affectedb

[tawny carbon]

[patent pivot]

serious

this can balance the damn bomber

[tawny carbon]

[robust vapor]

Menace

[tawny carbon]

Balance don’t exist in 2042

[placid echo]

current mood:

[robust vapor]

[robust vapor]

Saddam Hussein 2042

[placid echo]

I think that's a dead American

[robust vapor]

t-bag him bury him

[tawny carbon]

T Pose

[patent pivot]

as for mortar, just don't make them remote access

and don't regenerate ammo

[tawny carbon]

So like a BF4 special terminal type thing?

[patent pivot]

well yeah

whatever that is

[tawny carbon]

Mmm 🤔

[patent pivot]

hm

¯_(ツ)_/¯

just suggesting