battlefield-2042

[hallow sierra]

what time does the hourglass gameplay videos are coming

[carmine rover]

right now

[sick eagle]

now

[hallow sierra]

wow

[fervent rose]

i think that devastation (a cross shape map) is the best thing dice has made in many years, so i definitely dont want them to make all linear maps

2042 launched with a major lack of fun linear style maps for breakthrough, most bf games launch with variety

[paper olive]

eli5

how does one play rush mode?

[fervent rose]

open bf2042. click rush. play.

[paper olive]

no no no whats the objectives

is it like defend and attack?

[fervent rose]

there are these things called MCOMs

you arm or disarm a bomb on them

thats really all there is to it

[paper olive]

ohhhhhhhh

is that like that one game mode bad company 2?

[fervent rose]

yes its the same mode from then

[sick eagle]

attackers defend the armed mcom's

defenders defend the unarmed mcom's

[fervent rose]

defenders kill the attackers and disarm if it's beeping

[sick eagle]

except you can't damage the mcom's

[fervent rose]

i think they just changed the ui to be less "ez mode" with the disarms/arms

so you wont see that on your ui

[sick eagle]

if the mcom's could be damaged

rush would be a shitshow

[fervent rose]

16 lis players per team

[carmine rover]

crossmap incendiary noob tube the mcom

[fervent rose]

c4 destroying mcoms in bc2 was pretty obnoxious

[sick eagle]

all targeting the mcom

[hallow sierra]

well unfortunately no one is using the ak74u

[chilly jacinth]

i got it t1

[hallow sierra]

i mean in the test place where the creators are playing

[chilly jacinth]

oh

[carmine rover]

im going to use it more since it has fusion holo now

[sick eagle]

what

[carmine rover]

the ak

[sick eagle]

i know

[carmine rover]

?

[sick eagle]

i love the fusion holo

[next onyx]

What's new now

?

[fickle wharf]

holy shet the aksu barrels suck

[next onyx]

What do we have for the portal weapons?

[hallow sierra]

wait 4 tanls

[hybrid totem]

Excellent. Moar tanks.

[carmine rover]

4 tanks

[hallow sierra]

they aint showing it

idk why

[carmine rover]

the m60e4 has fusion holo, muzzle breaks, and lwg grip

[next onyx]

As it would.

[hallow sierra]

what about the ak74u and the p90

[fickle wharf]

no new grips

[carmine rover]

they both have new laser sights

no grip for p90 i think

and a bunch of suppressors

a bunch of scopes

[hallow sierra]

does ak have extended mag

[next onyx]

As it would becasue of mounting.

[carmine rover]

yes it has 40 now

[hallow sierra]

ok thats fine by me

[sick eagle]

what about pistols

what they got

[next onyx]

How's SMG spread by the looks?

[carmine rover]

the m39r has warkhawk and a bunch of suppressors

idk how about the other pistols

[hallow sierra]

ok so whats new to the pp2k

[carmine rover]

it has fusion holo, a bunch of scopes, and a bunch of suppressors

idk about grips

the m240b doesnt have fusion holo

[next onyx]

Most likely none.

[carmine rover]

i still think a couple of vault pistols still have no scopes

i think the rex and m93r

but i might be wrong

[spare quest]

[next onyx]

The hell.

[spare quest]

this layout looks weird af

[chilly jacinth]

rex doesnt even need anything

[mental delta]

That's fake right ?

[hybrid totem]

"We heard what you said about skyscraper objectives in s1, so we've fixed it now!"

[solid imp]

It's an interesting layout... I wonder if it's their widest "front line" to date 🤔

[chilly jacinth]

looks like it

[next onyx]

Mh I really can't be too concerned.

[chilly jacinth]

they kept the stadium

[mental delta]

So they kept the stadium ?

[sick eagle]

Get angry at 1 get 3 free

[grizzled island]

when is the update?

[sick eagle]

nope

[next onyx]

This shit list of maps will be forgotten in the next game.

The layout just looks off.

[solid imp]

no stadium

[carmine rover]

tomorrow

[hybrid totem]

What's at H1?

[carmine rover]

no stadium. the park is gone

[hybrid totem]

Looks like a stadium.

[sick eagle]

stadium is on the side

[chilly jacinth]

then what is that picture

[fervent rose]

stadium is not accessible

[next onyx]

Unless it's been filled with sand.

[fervent rose]

its there but you arent going there

[carmine rover]

im going to miss the park area

[hybrid totem]

...What about H1?

[carmine rover]

the little village or whatever

[hybrid totem]

What is that?

[chilly jacinth]

it doesnt even look filled with sand though

[next onyx]

It's in the middle of nowhere.

[sick eagle]

not the stadium

[hybrid totem]

It sure looks like the stadium.

[next onyx]

Oh I see.

Battles won't take place in what we're used to.

[sick eagle]

the stadium is out of bounds

[ebon pilot]

an edit

[chilly jacinth]

oh

[hybrid totem]

Oh that must be a proof of concept for if they wanted to make the map good.

[chilly jacinth]

i got baited by Way

[hybrid totem]

Not the actual release.

[carmine rover]

sory for the shit quality but heres the bt layout

[chilly jacinth]

theres like one pixel

[next onyx]

Ah I see.

[fervent rose]

they said they literally couldnt have stadium closer to city because of cross-gen release

[ebon pilot]

damn it way

[fervent rose]

so its a real world problem

[hybrid totem]

Oh wow that is... so much worse.

[solid imp]

😄

but my question still stands whether it's their widest front line

[fervent rose]

the stadium was also not the best play area in the first place so i dont really care

[chilly jacinth]

old gen holding new gen back

[solid imp]

with or without the stadium in the middle there

[paper olive]

2042 is actually quite fun

[chilly jacinth]

what a classic

[fickle wharf]

well atleast theres still room for latv4 cruising

[paper olive]

still havent touched bf5 yet i wonder if i'll like it

[sick eagle]

i can't tell if this is real or not

[next onyx]

Jesus christ.

[solid imp]

it's an interesting notion to get around the issue of being spawn locked by simply giving the uncap access to more map

[next onyx]

You on PC?

[carmine rover]

@next onyx what u think?

[paper olive]

yes

[shell ermine]

I'm glad it's not Sector Conquest at least

[next onyx]

Bt layout looks more exciting than its conquest layout.

[fervent rose]

i'm very glad that the shitty village got removed

[remote kiln]

the game is infested with hackers do not play it

[next onyx]

Pc bf5 is a hacker ridden mess. I would advise against that.

[fervent rose]

that first sector on breakthrough was always lame

[carmine rover]

im searching for a rush layout and tdm area

the old tdm area is out of bounds

so im wondering where the new area is

[next onyx]

Maybe in the city.

[shell ermine]

Sector Conquest was such a bad idea

Hopefully it doesn't come back

[next onyx]

It's not that bad of an idea.

[fervent rose]

tdm is probably in the same area as the underground tunnels

[carmine rover]

either the city or maybe the arches

[fervent rose]

if they have a brain at least

[carmine rover]

ill see tomorrow

[next onyx]

I was thinking around B for tdm.

Ye.

[carmine rover]

i would love the city but hate if i have to run around underground tunnels for tdm

giving me pre rework orbital flashbacks

[fervent rose]

tunnels in tdm are great if its not like orbital when its a boring single tunnel

i miss iwo jima tdm

[shell ermine]

Neither GameAtlas nor the Battlefield wiki actually have pictures of the layout of 2042 maps, I guess no one gives a shit lmao

[next onyx]

Tdm iwo jima was fun as hell.

Have you played outpost iwo jima at all, yo?

[carmine rover]

we still dont know what the conquest 64 layout will look like

[next onyx]

The layout is so good there too.

[fervent rose]

i enjoyed that too whereas i think conquest iwo is 2nd worst in the game

only second to sundan

[next onyx]

Yuck sundan.

[fervent rose]

i hated both of those in conquest so much

[shell ermine]

Iwo Jima Conquest is great

[next onyx]

Frontline sundan was amazing tho.

[shell ermine]

All of the Pacific maps have excellent Conquest

[next onyx]

Conquest iwo jima wasn't really that good.

It was made with bt on mind and it shows.

[fervent rose]

ya frontlines in al sundan was simple fun infantry action

[shell ermine]

Iwo Jima should've been Conquest Assault but I still really enjoy it as is

[carmine rover]

the worst tdm layout of all time has to be The Block on battlefield hardline

[fervent rose]

its funny how you just need some basic assets in a smart layout and its fun

[next onyx]

It was super simple

The block just stays the same layout no matter what.

[shell ermine]

Imo Conquest Assault > Breakthrough

I'd happily give up BT as a mode

[next onyx]

Only on maps made for it like wake island.

Breakthrough is genuinely a good mode.

In due part of its pacing.

Good for clips too.

[carmine rover]

Hotwire wouldnt work in 2042

[fervent rose]

BT is a great mode and there are maps that would be way less fun if it was cq assault

[next onyx]

No.

[carmine rover]

only bcus Lis exist

[shell ermine]

Maps need to be made perfectly for it otherwise it's grueling in a bad way to play defense

[next onyx]

Blood money though.

[fervent rose]

stranded, spearhead, s1 exposure would not be anywhere near as fun on cq assault

[carmine rover]

Blood Money. now we talking

[next onyx]

Perfection doesn't exist.

[patent pivot]

obliteration

carrier assault

[carmine rover]

Heist would be fun also

[next onyx]

Blood data with the satellites. Imagine.

[shell ermine]

The 2042 maps are so bad for BT that I simply just won't play defense

[patent pivot]

make it base assault instead

since this game hates water

[shell ermine]

I'll leave a server if I get put on defense

[carmine rover]

Bring back Blood Money

[fervent rose]

i agree on that, playing solo as defense is for masochists

[next onyx]

Defence can be bad but I have found ways to enjoy it.

[patent pivot]

you do realize that mode can have any sides attack and defend

[next onyx]

Bloody reclaimed is good on defence out of all things.

I actually don't mind defence on that.

[fervent rose]

Defense needs C-Rams and emplaced anti tank guns

[hallow sierra]

attackers suck on reclaimed even if they have attack helis

[carmine rover]

Theres also a new universal skin

[fervent rose]

and honestly the boundaries are just so boring on defense, you can barely move

[carmine rover]

idk if itll be free

[fervent rose]

thats the thing i hate the most

[shell ermine]

At least it's easier to farm kills attacking if you have a shit team

[next onyx]

Though I understand why they're there.

[shell ermine]

Shit team on defense and the game is over in 5 minutes

[warm stirrup]

Everyone's thoughts on hourglass rework?

[next onyx]

At least the game ends quickly.

[fervent rose]

you basically have to stand on obj, you should be able to create at least 1 layer outside

[next onyx]

It looks no better.

[sick eagle]

not good

[chilly jacinth]

vehicle farm map is still vehicle farm map

aka i leave

[carmine rover]

its a lot smaller but still very empty

[next onyx]

Genuinely unimpressive.

[hallow sierra]

i gotta play it myself

[next onyx]

I don't even mean anything malicious in what I say. It's really disappointing. Nothing much you could do to salvage much out of hour glass.

[fervent rose]

hourglass looks much more playable for BT but it still looks like hourglass

[next onyx]

If they had concentrated on the city I reckon they could have done more.

[hallow sierra]

if hourglass rework is better in bt than rewenal then im good

[next onyx]

An underground sewer or metro system.

Just something for some depth.

[warm stirrup]

Why does each team have a spawn on both sides of the map?

[carmine rover]

thank god we dont have el alamein in normal rotations

[fervent rose]

simply removing the first sector for bt is a great move already

so im happy

[next onyx]

1942 maps yuck.

[carmine rover]

way have u ever played battle bulge rush?

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[carmine rover]

thats literally so fun

[fervent rose]

it's.. okay

[carmine rover]

to me atleast..

[next onyx]

Tdm is prettygood too.

[carmine rover]

i love bulge

[next onyx]

Owo

[carmine rover]

one of my favs

[next onyx]

I had to.

[shell ermine]

Bulge was unfinished imo, it just needs more cover and it would be fantastic

[hallow sierra]

africa harbor on rush rotation is enough to deal with

[shell ermine]

Should've been added to AoW

[next onyx]

It's not really unfinished it's literally the original map. Just as shit.

[carmine rover]

caspian border…

[shell ermine]

Wish we could've gotten Bulge in BFV

[warm stirrup]

Arica Harbor silly

[fervent rose]

bulge is too flat in Rush. the tdm is fine though

[next onyx]

Gimme flashback bt dice.

[carmine rover]

the tdm is one of my fav maps

[next onyx]

I want my 193 kill game again.

[hallow sierra]

damn my bad

[carmine rover]

the destruction

so good

[fervent rose]

it's basically just a bfv map

[next onyx]

Flashback bt had the best pacing.

In the worst ways possible.

[carmine rover]

if u dont like bulge idk whats wrong with you. everyone should love bulge

[hallow sierra]

i dont like bulge

[next onyx]

It's not really that good of a map.

[hallow sierra]

cuz i didnt play it

[fervent rose]

it's just some bfv houses and a bfv church its nothing crazy

[next onyx]

Thematically it's good. But gameplay wise it's really not that good.

[fervent rose]

it works though

[shell ermine]

It just needs some tweaks to work with modern gameplay

Like Wake in BFV

Wake is the best map in BFV by far

[fervent rose]

nahhhh

not even top 8

[shell ermine]

I'm honestly surprised we got a new Iwo rather than a remake

[next onyx]

Wake has had many interpretations. Bf3 wake looked decent.

[fervent rose]

wake isnt even in the top half of pacific maps

[carmine rover]

Ballroom Blitz in 2042

[next onyx]

Very hilly.

[carmine rover]

wud be fun

[drowsy shuttle]

Need to play it to judge properly, but from what I've seen so far, needs another rework. And I had high hopes for hourglass... oh well

[patent pivot]

lost island on 2042

[next onyx]

I would like to see seine crossing but that's just it.

[patent pivot]

[shell ermine]

BF3 Wake was gimped on consoles so I can't judge how it was supposed to play

[next onyx]

Hilly.

[patent pivot]

remember death valley

[shell ermine]

Operation Mortar in BF4 was a stealth remake of 1942 Iwo Jima

[fervent rose]

i feel like grapple boi would ruin it

[carmine rover]

hardline’s Dust Bowl is bigger than some 2042 maps

[next onyx]

Have actua limitations but yeah it would be annoying to deal with.

[fervent rose]

i do want to see a new version of seine in the next game tho

[patent pivot]

China when

[next onyx]

Honestly I just want dice to start anew so they can actually give us good maps on release.

This game and its development hell screw it all.

[carmine rover]

according to the lore. both US and China is all nuked to hell

[patent pivot]

rip good voice lines

[carmine rover]

itll look like transit from bo2

[patent pivot]

[edgy oriole]

hows hourglass. i saw they removed the stadium

[next onyx]

I can't wait to unlock the mystery box.

It's not good.

@edgy oriole

[edgy oriole]

when i saw they removed the stadium

HAHAH

[fervent rose]

looks like hourglass

[next onyx]

It really isn't anything impressive.

[edgy oriole]

holy shit bro

[warm stirrup]

Dice has a brand new team sadly compared to when they developed past titles

[carmine rover]

spin the mystery box and u have to choose between pre nerf avancys and pre nerf rm68

[fervent rose]

copypasta village is also gone

[edgy oriole]

thats crazy

[patent pivot]

rip generic soldiers

[edgy oriole]

this is what they needed to do

[keen remnant]

Fr

[edgy oriole]

get rid of the city. spiff up the stadium and play off the destruction of the village

idk why they got rid of the best part of the map and still try to force you to play the worst part of the map

[keen remnant]

In the middle there’s still a big empty space

[patent path]

or have 2 layouts for the map, Hourglass 1 and Hourglass 2

like we used to have it in bf2

[next onyx]

Oh yeah.

[edgy oriole]

"i heard you guys like empty space. so we spend a YEAR getting rid of all of it and giving MORE empty space"

[carmine rover]

Hourglass 0 (remove it completely)

[patent path]

but I like sand

[next onyx]

To be fair there is less empty space.

But it's hour ass

It will forever be ass.

[carmine rover]

not as bad as el alamein

[edgy oriole]

ill prolly try it next weekend. oklahoma is dropping in ATS tomorrow.

[fervent rose]

crossgen is why, they couldnt move the stadium close and the city is core to gen4(xbox one)

[patent path]

El Alamein looks so pretty though

[next onyx]

In this new variant we will see.

[carmine rover]

that map is the definition of empty space

[warm stirrup]

Y'all think season 6 will have 2 maps now there's no more reworks?

[hallow sierra]

or rewenal bt

[civic basin]

[next onyx]

I don't like to dog on dice.

[patent path]

the remade 1942 maps are just gorgeous

[shell ermine]

They need to focus on getting Control on other maps and bringing it back as a permanent mode for the last season

[edgy oriole]

1942 has that boring ass empty desert map too

[keen remnant]

The great sandbagging is finally finished

[next onyx]

When given direction they can do something well. But this game is one without it and you can see.

[warm stirrup]

Again, entirely new team

[next onyx]

You were limited by view distance and now assholes can pin you from an easy thousand metres away.

I am aware.

[fervent rose]

the season maps have all been good. it's not that DICE can't do anything right, but they definitely are too slow

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[shell ermine]

With pixel perfect accuracy thanks to unfiltered crossplay

[next onyx]

Crossplay didn't have to do anything with it but alright lol.

[patent path]

didn't they say in one of the podcasts or streams that they have people who worked on bf1 working in the current team

[next onyx]

Given the time and resources they can do it.

[carmine rover]

am i the only one that dont like exposure

[shell ermine]

It draws out engagement distances by a good deal

[carmine rover]

exposure bt, rush, and tdm are all good and fun

but the full map sucks

[next onyx]

Exposure was good when it came out but now it's more disliked.

[edgy oriole]

also on podcast from awhile ago one of the main producers worked on battlefield heros.

[shell ermine]

It was only liked because by comparison it looked awesome

[next onyx]

Just this game in general with how little recoil everything has and what the game asks for.

[shell ermine]

But its really a C- map

[fervent rose]

conquest on exposure can be really fun if most of the lobby goes to the 3 infantry flags

[hallow sierra]

good thing im playing on last gen cuz we still got the old exposure bt layout

[fervent rose]

when they dont, its so boring

[warm stirrup]

Thoughts on rush no longer showing the icons when planting and defusing?

[carmine rover]

i refuse to capture the points at the bottom of the mountain. theres 101 enemies camping on the side of the mountain proned shooting me with thermal dmrs

[edgy oriole]

first look at exposure it is a insta classic. im not a big fan of last 2 changes but its def my fav 2042 map

[fervent rose]

great change

[shell ermine]

I don't think I'd pick any 2042 map to ever come back in a future game

[patent pivot]

WAT

[warm stirrup]

Check the patch notes

[hallow sierra]

i would put reclaimed on my least favorite season map on bt

[edgy oriole]

128 bt discarded and manifest was goated. just to be ruined

[patent pivot]

I'm lazy

[patent path]

great change

[shell ermine]

Reclaimed is just bad

Idk why they didn't just remake Zavod

[patent pivot]

so you have to listen to your announcer to know which mcom is armed??

[carmine rover]

reworked discarded is godsent. idk how they changed an F tier map to an S tier map overnight

[patent pivot]

WAT

[edgy oriole]

i like how they made it feel like a warzone but its just way too small.

[warm stirrup]

They want players to play rush tactically instead of rely on the icons

[fervent rose]

pretty sure the map ui will alert you AFTER its armed

but not while its being armed

[patent pivot]

that's the point of rush...

Literally in the name

[shell ermine]

Rush hasn't been relevant in 13 years

[fervent rose]

they just want arming/disarming to be less of a trap

[patent pivot]

if you want to be tactical

[fervent rose]

it literally is too easy right now imo

[patent pivot]

go fucking play squad rush

Jesus

[ebon pilot]

I love Exposure still. Not even like comparatively to other maps. I just love the verticality and variety the map has. Every sector is different from the next and that makes it feel like 3 different maps at once and you can switch between each of them at any time.

[edgy oriole]

imma be real tactical strafe jump farming with mackay still no problem

[patent pivot]

leave rush alone

[patent path]

god forbid we pay more attention to the mcoms

[fervent rose]

theres no reason to have telepathic knowledge of the arming/disarming

[patent pivot]

and just add.squad rush

SQUADS RUSH

[shell ermine]

There aren't enough players to fill out more modes

They should drop Rush or BT for Control

[patent pivot]

fuck me

rush is my favorite

I don't even like conquest

[fervent rose]

they should drop conquest for control

[patent path]

"hurrr defusing icon flashing better throw nades onto the mcom"

[warm stirrup]

Just pay more attention to the mcoms silly

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-wojak-brainlet-dumb-gif-25774844

[patent pivot]

I'd rather do Frontline

[shell ermine]

I honestly can't name a single 2042 map I enjoy on Conquest besides Orbital

[edgy oriole]

yes

[arctic grove]

What happens when you put your TV to 100? Do the grenades sound real?

[patent pivot]

have one stage that's one flag and one mcom

[fervent rose]

ui into c5 every time

[edgy oriole]

frontlines > everything

[patent pivot]

simple

[fervent rose]

i too am a frontlines fan but 2042 maps arent really frontlines material

[arctic grove]

Gotta get payback on the neighbours blasting BF2042 😂😂

[warm stirrup]

You can play frontlines through portal

[carmine rover]

i rather play phantom forces

[patent pivot]

ok
what about obliteration

carrier assault

[fervent rose]

sure, and it wont be as fun as bf1/bfv frontlines

[patent pivot]

scavenger

[quiet shell]

Is the new map already out?

[patent pivot]

where's chain link

huh

tell me

[vague rivet]

I've said it before, and i'll say it again. BF2143... bring back Titan mode, and the walkers.....

[warm stirrup]

13 hours from now

[fervent rose]

tomorrow. theres some playtest so you can watch youtubers/streamers tho if you want a look at it

[patent pivot]

and restore the classic soldiers

[vague rivet]

The ones from 2142? Sure. 🙂

[patent pivot]

no more hero specialist BS

[shell ermine]

That FNB mode in Feb, Tipping Point was good

It and Control were legitimately fun

[vague rivet]

Just the classess. I'm not here to hear stories about the idividual character... I'm just here to kill them. 😄

[shell ermine]

Only time I can say that about this game

[patent pivot]

and bring back good voice lines

[ebon pilot]

what's wrong with what we have

[patent pivot]

they're mediocre

[fossil flax]

I'm just better than everybody else***

[ebon pilot]

why

[warm stirrup]

Speaking of voice lines, Sundance will finally have a voice line when downed

[ebon pilot]

that one doesn't exist anymore

[shell ermine]

I don't even pay attention to them

[patent pivot]

do they compare to bf4 and 3 VA? absolutely not

[fossil flax]

Anghel does it again

[shell ermine]

With 3D spotting back it doesn't matter

[fossil flax]

Blah blah blah

[carmine rover]

im predicting the m60e4 will be meta again

[fervent rose]

personally i hate every time mackay lets out a woohoo

[vague rivet]

Sundance shouldn't talk... all she needs to do is scream as i torch her.

[shell ermine]

In BFV voicelines could alert you to enemies

[fossil flax]

Boris

4head

[ebon pilot]

why? "compare to blah" compare what

[shell ermine]

2042 doesn't tell you if you've been 3D spotted, right? Only if a gadget or an ability revealed you, yes?

[ebon pilot]

yes

[fervent rose]

only when paik scans you right?

[patent pivot]

https://youtu.be/P5mZhTBcGlw?t=3m19s

listen to this

[hallow sierra]

you would rarely see paik players

[next onyx]

Could make a deduction. Not like it matters being spotted anyways.

[warm stirrup]

https://youtu.be/P5mZhTBcGlw?t=3m19s

[patent pivot]

https://youtu.be/xuy3icht6NY?t=2m43s

[ebon pilot]

no, can you express it in words

[patent pivot]

and that

[shell ermine]

Paik, TUG-S, motion sensors, and the inflict damage spot abilities iirc

Being tagged with the commo-rose spot button doesn't warn you unfortunately

[next onyx]

You can hear tugs go off.

[shell ermine]

I wish they'd get rid of it again

Idk why they brought it back

[fervent rose]

tugs should be louder or something, i feel that thing is busted

blasco with tugs especially is crazy powerful

[next onyx]

Spotting with the way they've done it here is very lenient.

[ebon pilot]

it makes the same noise as the spawn beacon

[warm stirrup]

Thoughts on squad orders returning?

[next onyx]

No it's unique.

[fervent rose]

right and its more powerful than a spawn beacon

whoops

[next onyx]

It's a beep.

[fervent rose]

mistagged

[patent pivot]

point is proven

[ebon pilot]

but so is the beacon

[shell ermine]

If I go back and forth between 2042 and BFV I am always amazed by how many people actually use smoke in BFV

[patent pivot]

these 4 soldiers have more personalities than 2042

[shell ermine]

Almost never see it in 2042

[next onyx]

Beacon has its own sound.

[fervent rose]

medic class restrictions creating positive gameplay and feedback loops

[shell ermine]

Smoke broke flare and spotting scope spots in BFV, ir had a real purpose

[fervent rose]

restrictions are a good thing

[ebon pilot]

and yet you can't actually communicate how with words

[warm stirrup]

Smokes are broken in 2042, can use them to make explosives go through walls

[patent pivot]

I can't argue with this crap

I'm done

[ebon pilot]

because you can't even make an argument

[patent pivot]

alright we're done here

back to my studio

[fervent rose]

i love that smoke explosion interaction

good to know why walls sometimes didnt protect you

[ebon pilot]

I'm too fucking stupid to be able to pick it up myself you need to explain it

[next onyx]

Smokes are immensely powerful and I have some ideas planned.

[shell ermine]

Maybe I should swap one of my UGLs on my scar to smoke now

Didn't know about the explosive thing

[patent pivot]

have you ever used flash bang

[next onyx]

Just use standard smoke grenade.

But it actually makes sense all this time.

Cause in the evidence I showed vanta I was enveloped in smoke.

[hallow sierra]

pro tip: make sure to use smokes when reviving someone

[next onyx]

How the hell does that work.

[fervent rose]

yea it makes sense for my experiences too

the smoke non occlusion must bug out explosive occlusion

[shell ermine]

The lack of awareness by people reviving in 2042 is astounding

Assuming it even happens to begin with

[warm stirrup]

Ai revive more than players lol

[shell ermine]

I blame the challenges, people want to get them done and don't care if the revive is in a good spot

[ebon pilot]

The lack of awareness by people requesting a revive is also astounding

[patent pivot]

not for other era bots

[hallow sierra]

True

[patent pivot]

the non 2042 bots are broken as heck

[shell ermine]

Also what's with the medic classes not doing full revives. I'll be dead in a second again if I get revived with only 20 health

[carmine rover]

bots with pkps are the scariest

[patent pivot]

they still suck at CQC with advanced mode

[carmine rover]

they never miss

[patent pivot]

I swear to God

[next onyx]

Dice are aware about the smoke bug.

[hallow sierra]

same with wildcats

[fervent rose]

bad medics who do a 25 revive when you're not safe are never gonna learn

[carmine rover]

bots in any vehicle

[patent pivot]

can I just say

defending bots sucks at their jobs

[naive quiver]

no human bots setting enable and disable in this game unfortunately

[shell ermine]

I want the fliegerfaust back

[warm stirrup]

Bots have 360 vision in vehicles sadly compared to players

[patent pivot]

I want these bots fixed and improved

[quiet shell]

Watched the Hourglass preview

How did DICE still manage to have an empty desert in the middle of the map

Like come on DICE you're telling me you couldn't even put the stadium there?

[shell ermine]

They should've knocked a skyscraper down and had you fight through a horizontal broken skyscraper

[warm stirrup]

Why did dice add a spawn on both sides of the map? For each team?

[patent pivot]

does this affect rush

[carmine rover]

yea

[fervent rose]

yes rush will be different

havent seen the layout though

[patent pivot]

before, it's the U shape

[shell ermine]

Some maps work with multiple uncaps, like Panzerstorm

[next onyx]

Hardware restrictions.

[patent pivot]

from up to the right

then down

[shell ermine]

Remains to be seen if Hourass does

[naive quiver]

Dice said “ everyone should have a break “

[quiet shell]

Battlefield 4 had hardware restrictions but even that DICE didn't leave a large section of maps empty because the asset count affected performance too much

[carmine rover]

i just hope they added laser and a sight for my beloved mp443

[next onyx]

Look I dunno.

Different gen, tech.

[fervent rose]

they said because of crossgen, they couldnt do it apparently

it is what it is

[next onyx]

I'm not gonna cause a ruckus.

[warm stirrup]

Anyone gonna use a portal smg/lmg with the new all out warfare attachments?

[carmine rover]

yes

[fervent rose]

2042 is a bastardization in tons of ways because of crossgen so this isnt anything new

why get mad now

[carmine rover]

im predicting the m60e4 will be so strong

[next onyx]

There's no use anymore.

[fervent rose]

and i stand by that the stadium wasnt a great play area, it was designed to look good

[edgy oriole]

death to last gen.

[naive quiver]

Is hard for dice to put a tier 1 skin on portal weapons ?

[next onyx]

Would be cool if they cleaned up the stadium and made it a domination like map.

[carmine rover]

probably not

[shell ermine]

BFV is an all around better Battlefield with better, more detailed maps than 2042 and its a last gen game.

[fervent rose]

they could have definitely remade the stadium but it would have needed huge changes

[edgy oriole]

judging by skins breaking the game at least 2 times. yes

[shell ermine]

It was design decisions that fucked 2042 above all else

[next onyx]

It's not the matter that they can't physically do it but it's a matter of internal dice stuff.

[ebon pilot]

resource allocation

[next onyx]

People could have lived with the design decisions if the game wasn't broken and rushed.

[shell ermine]

Or rather a lack of design

[calm bison]

IDK I feel like 2042 has some good detail to it

[warm stirrup]

How would they keep track of kills for it? Since vault weapons have been out for a long time now?

[next onyx]

Nah it's literally internal dice stuff.

[naive quiver]

Dice please not hard for you

[carmine rover]

the p90 with fusion holo looks so sick

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-chris-rock-jada-pinkett-smith-oscars2022-smack-gif-25234614

[ebon pilot]

they've already been keeping track

[next onyx]

They would do it if they could.

That's all I'm saying.

[ebon pilot]

there's T1 badges

[carmine rover]

1200

[hallow sierra]

crazy how the ak74u doesnt have alot of muzzles

[shell ermine]

2042 is a Jackson Pollock of ideas but without the pretension that it's actually art

[carmine rover]

they removed heavy barrel on the aks74u too

[hallow sierra]

but pp2k has a good amount of muzzles and both of them have low recoil to begin with

im confused

[next onyx]

Yeah I dunno people said they were bad and needed 2042 attachments.

And here we are.

Just give it a tac comp or something.

[carmine rover]

why they add attachments and remove attachments also 🥹🥹

[warm stirrup]

Pistol bipod when dice?

[calm bison]

Can a DICE dev show the 128 player layout for Hourglass?

[shell ermine]

Needing to unlock attachments on Portal weapons really annoys me

[calm bison]

Because the 64P layout looks like ass

[ebon pilot]

The 128p layout is probably the same

[hallow sierra]

tbh from the looks of it this set of poral attachments are lacking compared to the first set

[carmine rover]

im about to be bombared with so many unlocks tomorrow

i have every vault gun t1

[naive quiver]

Metro map when dice please

[carmine rover]

its about to be a laundry list

[next onyx]

Same here moder.

Big update.

I'm looking forward to it. I'm only gonna use the xm8 MG but whatever.

Tac comp with the stnr grip.

[carmine rover]

im going to be using the m60e4 🫡

[hallow sierra]

i gotta use the rpk

[naive quiver]

Way go tell dice bring metro map back @next onyx

[carmine rover]

m60e4 has lwg grip, muzzle breaks, laser sights, thermals, fusion holo

it has eveeything

[warm stirrup]

Anyone gonna use a vault pistol with all out warfare attachments?

[hallow sierra]

no

[fervent rose]

if the rex gets a red dot

[carmine rover]

meee

[fervent rose]

hell ye

[next onyx]

No.

[hallow sierra]

it doesnt

[ebon pilot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/914461578462634006/1116026982195539998/rewards.mp4

[hallow sierra]

it has no attachments

[next onyx]

Even if I could everything is in pre production.

[fervent rose]

classic

only fun thing i can think of denied

[hallow sierra]

but its still better then the m44

[carmine rover]

same literally

[lucid ingot]

How many more seasons till next bf game?

[next onyx]

Doesn't look like it could mount much.

Who knows.

So far only know of one.

Season 7 unsure.

[warm stirrup]

Tree fitty

[fervent rose]

when are we getting dual 1911s though

[lucid ingot]

Too little too late. Back to battlebit lmao.

[paper olive]

damn

[misty briar]

12Mm akimbo when

[paper olive]

if only bf5 anti cheat worked

[naive quiver]

season 6 confirmed?

[warm stirrup]

Season 6 was confirmed when season 5 launched

[shell ermine]

BFV on PS4 is very active

[paper olive]

https://i.imgur.com/4YU8Xc0.jpeg

idk im liking this gun tho

[misty briar]

Wait he complains about not having sniper ?

[paper olive]

best medic fun so far at my level (9)

[warm stirrup]

https://i.imgur.com/4YU8Xc0.jpeg

[shell ermine]

Even at 3am Eastern US time on a weekday there were 3 full East US Conquest servers

[paper olive]

good gun better than crappy starter

[next onyx]

Alex doesn't want the animation team sending a hit squad to his house.

[naive quiver]

Talking to himself?

[carmine rover]

hopefully this is fixed

[shell ermine]

During prime time its like 30 servers

[paper olive]

which game?

[misty briar]

Minecraft

[next onyx]

Bf4 ps.

[naive quiver]

battlebit ?

[paper olive]

oh

[shell ermine]

BFV PS4

[carmine rover]

idk how dice did it but ps4 2042 looks worse than xbox 360 battlefield 4

[misty briar]

[carmine rover]

this cant be the same game

[ebon pilot]

HDD moment

[hallow sierra]

as a last gen player this is what we have to deal with

[misty briar]

Time to upgrade

[hallow sierra]

soon

but would miss playing on the old bt layout that last gen has

[fair barn]

Why does every recon class have the shakiest hands on the planet

Bfv doesnt have this level of shake

What happened

[ebon pilot]

wym

[hallow sierra]

u mean with snipers right

[fair barn]

Yes

[hallow sierra]

yea idk what they did to snipers when you aim down sights for too long it starts to shake like crazy

[pine roost]

I didn't even know there was any meaningful shake

but i'm never at the range where it's that important anyways I guess

[patent path]

lol I forgot how good looking the default ak-24 is since I always have a skin applied

[fair barn]

All i know is i can get sniper kills easy as pie in bfv, but the second i pick up a sniper in 2042 its like im shooting blanks

[pine roost]

at what range is this at?

[fair barn]

Varies

[sharp spoke]

bruh

i cant send pics if i dont boost the server

[hallow sierra]

all ranges

[sharp spoke]

[ebon pilot]

it's true

[pine roost]

It's never something I've personally noticed

lemme have a quick look

[hallow sierra]

it only happens when u ads for too long

the railgun doesnt have that

[paper olive]

can u mark people on this game?

if so how

[pine roost]

q

[paper olive]

(pc)

[sharp spoke]

can we lean in this game ?

[remote kiln]

q, soflam, etc

[pine roost]

unrelated to the hold breath functionality?

[remote kiln]

pretty easy

[solar tinsel]

negative

[sharp spoke]

does nvdia instant reply supported like bf5 ?

[warm stirrup]

Remember the old cod games where if you hold your breath too long when sniping you shake like crazy? Lol

[hallow sierra]

i dont think so i dont even have my audio high enough to heard the breath function

[ebon pilot]

because it doesn't actually make noise

you just press shift

[paper olive]

idk what i like better assault or support

is assadult even good?

*assault

[warm stirrup]

Mackay best assault

[hallow sierra]

depends on the map

[paper olive]

def dont like engineer/sniper thats for sure

[ebon pilot]

ass salt has lots of ammo for ARs

[paper olive]

lol

[hallow sierra]

paik and blasco are good for recon

well paik used to be good

[fair barn]

Look at that, i just got a headshot in bfv, didnt even need to try

[warm stirrup]

Sundance 2nd best assault cuz wingsuit

[fair barn]

What happened in 2042

[hallow sierra]

many things happen

[willow sky]

i would argue that zain would be the 2nd best 🤓

[pine roost]

I can see the sway you are on about, but holding breath neuters it entierly

[ebon pilot]

you lost aim assist

[willow sky]

im kidding

...maybe

[warm stirrup]

Zain is cheap cuz grenade launcher

[willow sky]

tru tru

[fair barn]

This is without aim assist

[willow sky]

[fair barn]

I just click on heads

[remote kiln]

didnt even try
perhaps thats the problem lol

[pine roost]

Yeah in all honesty that sway doesn't really affect much

[fair barn]

Its not that, it just feels like my bullets dont damage my target while i click right on them

[remote kiln]

yeah what it is is you actually need to aim now

dont have heat seeking bullets anymore

[pine roost]

could simply be that you are not used to the movement speed, bullet velocities or player animations yet. Of course you'll have a better time in V if you've played that more

[fair barn]

I just got back into bfv like a day ago

[pine roost]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fair barn]

Sniping in 2042 is just simply harder

[hallow sierra]

use the railgun with no bullet drop off

the best sniper in 2042

[remote meteor]

Does the update drop tomorrow?

[remote kiln]

yes

[ebon pilot]

back into? you didn't get amnesia right?

[proven obsidian]

Any footage of attachements for the SMG/LMG and pistols yet ? Cannot seem to find any

just curious

[remote kiln]

capture stream

[hallow sierra]

some lmgs get a massive upgrade with attachments

while smgs was leaking with attachments

[proven obsidian]

Oh found some

TheCadWoman

She is going over attachements at the begining of her stream

P90 gained a better suppressor and some nice sights / AKu ...oof. One suppressor, no grip at all and just some sights /PP2000 just got some muzzles and some optics

[hallow sierra]

which is dumb for the ak74u

[lunar finch]

2042

[proven obsidian]

Didn't see anything about the LMGs yet

[paper olive]

if i go play bf 100 times

in those 100 times in bf5

how many hackers will I see rougly in 100 games

20-30 games?

[ionic gale]

as long as all weapons get a laser the rest does not really matter. The only benefit is the access to wrapped suppressor, although flash hider had the same effect at no cost.

[remote kiln]

no, probably more than 1/2

[paper olive]

!!!!

[sharp spoke]

prolly 80 times

[paper olive]

WTF

what a beautiful game ruined

[dapper night]

Finally more vehicles...
https://twitter.com/bfbulletin/status/1686080920854396931?s=46&t=_laNp-ESBQI2E70M5JYv_w

[paper olive]

bought it on G2A wont touch it now llol

[sharp spoke]

ikr

i put like 30 hours into it within a week

but man there are ust too many hackers in that game

[paper olive]

kinda sucks cus i bought both games i actually prefered to paly bf5 but

[sharp spoke]

even normal players be running around with esp

[tall egret]

The bf2042 subreddit is so nothing but negativity

[dapper night]

If only they used this vehicle count in other 128 maps such as Exposure and Breakaway

[paper olive]

yeah i made a thread yesterday https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/15dkwpk/havent_played_a_battlefield_since_4_whats_worth/ but its like im getting weird responses

most people said just get 2042 so i did

[sharp spoke]

i'd prefered if they fixed the battlefield hackers isse rather than making a new game

[paper olive]

^

fps games are the worst when plagued with hackers imo

out of all genres

imo

[remote kiln]

5 ceased support years ago, it wont be fixed

cut your losses

[paper olive]

EA IS DONE WITH BF5? wont fix it?

actually DONE?

[edgy oriole]

bruh its been a dead game for like 3-4 years lol

[chilly jacinth]

It's been dead since launch

[warm stirrup]

12 hours until update

Hosting a 128 player conquest server on all 18 maps with hourglass 3 times in the rotation if anyone's interested? One last tribute to the old hourglass. Once update drops new hourglass will be featured 3 times.

Moderate xp too

[chilly jacinth]

Id rather rip out my eyeballs

Than play hourglass

[calm bison]

Ok so the 128 layout must still be pretty large

[remote kiln]

youre 4 years late

[hallow sierra]

think its the same

on 128

[calm bison]

That would be a little weird

[paper olive]

so like real question

[calm bison]

And would be a first for a rework

[paper olive]

should I just uinstall BFV then?

[remote kiln]

if you dont want to deal with hackers yes

[paper olive]

w/e

u right

[calm bison]

Since the Breakaway rework has a smaller layout for 64p

[patent pivot]

I don't think I ever seen one

maybe it's because they're all occupying conquest

and.BT

[hallow sierra]

https://twitter.com/sithmetal71/status/1686049706864984064 uhhh

[chilly jacinth]

That person needs to uninstall

Now

[fervent rose]

man cant aim

sad

[placid pike]

I just played the new hourglass version, it was so much fun.

It's a lot better than what it's now, they definitely improved it.

[paper olive]

bless those people who played BFV in the prime of its game

im too late just started yesterday

[patent path]

it wasn't that good in its prime lol

[remote kiln]

the game never had a prime lol

dont know where you got that idea from

[proven obsidian]

Don't play BFV on PC if you don't want to get doxxed / have your IP public and just ... hackers everywhere

[patent path]

it was good at launch, then they started messing with the ttk

[proven obsidian]

Also BFV looks better in videos than actually playing it

[remote kiln]

as soon as the nostalgia from launch wore off the game died

[proven obsidian]

Not even nostalgia, it's just honey moon phase

[paper olive]

so the game wasent that good?

[hallow sierra]

i remember trying to play bf5

[paper olive]

was it good as bf3/bf4?

[remote kiln]

no

[proven obsidian]

Most controversial and critized BF (before 2042)

so, no

[paper olive]

so like i know this is 2042 channel but

what issues did bfv have on launch

[fervent rose]

bfv's core gameplay is mostly good

[fervent rose]

it would be a long list

[patent path]

it was unfinished at launch, but the gunplay was actually fine

[proven obsidian]

You can watch some videos about it, listing all the wrong of the game will take too much time and effort and it will be just beating a dead horse

[patent path]

then they changed the ttk to cater to young gamers who can't aim, and the game stayed unfinished until it died

[lament plank]

What the fuck dice. I sure love watching jets bounce off the ground, and still survive. But my helo so much as touches anything and instant death. Yep. Perfect mechanics. Jets going 500kmh bounce off the ground and are fine but helos going 20 die.

[proven obsidian]

You can summarize BFV as : an unfinished mess
You can summarize BF2042 as : an unfinished substandard mess

If you happened to love the past games, you'll not enjoy the BF1 and onwards era

[paper olive]

ty for responses guess im sticking with 2042 i suppose

lol

[fervent rose]

2042 isnt just substandard, it felt like a different franchise at launch

it's much better now

[paper olive]

so in terms of 2042 why is there a negative review all over steam and why is it "much better now"?

game feels 7.5/10 8/10 fun

and no hackers?

weird lol

[fervent rose]

they had to rework all the launch maps

[paper olive]

why is that sorry?

were they buggy or unfinished..?

[fervent rose]

i'm saying that as like, it's not normal

[ebon pilot]

here's when reviews were written

launch

[paper olive]

ohhhhhhhhhhh

[patent path]

negative reviews are well earned because it was terrible at launch for most people (performance sucked, lack of content, different map layout which doesn't fit bf playerbase, etc.) The people who left those negative reviews never touch the game again thus never bother to change the reviews

[fervent rose]

the launch maps imo were unfinished, unfocused mess

[arctic grove]

The game was buggy at first

And boring

[paper olive]

if the current version BF2042 launched at launch years ago

would the game have diff reviews?

[ebon pilot]

probably

[fervent rose]

absolutely but people would still hate on specialists/clone wars

[patent pivot]

their reactions to different character models for each class?

inevitable

bf should go back to 4 nameless soldiers

[paper olive]

wow thanks for all those responses my ass didnt play since bf3bf4 days lol

i was honestly not ure what to do

[proven obsidian]

Getting from 2/10 to 4/10 isn't a feat of strenght tho. Can't deny the game getting better but the franchise as a whole is damaged, developpers nevers listen to good criticisms (and backpedal when it's too late) and it will remain a broken husk of an "attempted" game. Input still broken and will never be fixed. Game breaking bug still found till today, disparity and unbalance accross the board in every departement of the game, runs like shit on most computers still, lacks visual identity, lacks core elements of the franchise, dripfed on "legacy features" who were a staple of the franchise and so on and on...

[fervent rose]

2042 is definitely the game to play just because theres few cheaters

[paper olive]

what if there was no cheaters in bfV would people play that?

[fervent rose]

i would at least sometimes

[patent path]

probably not lol

[arctic grove]

Bfv was overall better with more gamemodes

And bigger maps

[patent path]

I tried playing it again a few months ago, couldn't get into it. And I spent 200 hours in bf5

[patent pivot]

while it had training ground, no bots kekeke

[ebon pilot]

and then add in named soldiers in the form of cosmetics
hey wait a minute that's the same fucking thing we got last time

[fervent rose]

the bfv elites were lame too

[proven obsidian]

You know what the franchise need ? Healing.

[fervent rose]

i think its more like a 6/10

[remote kiln]

3 and 4 were also broken as shit for over a year when they launched lol this is not a new thing

[ebon pilot]

yea let's make the same game 3 times in a row so people get soft and complacent with buying the same thing over and over again. then the series will never change for better or worse because at least it can't get worse if it never changes at all

[patent pivot]

I still give this game under 5/10

[paper olive]

2042?

[arctic grove]

Why does it miss a 4/10 what does the game need

[patent pivot]

yes

[patent pivot]

OLD CONTENT

and the missing old atmosphere

[paper olive]

but overall bf3 and bf4 dont they get more praise than 2042 and bfV?

[patent path]

I swear to god if you say it needs a campaign I'll freak out

[fervent rose]

well some of the things are core to the game and that knocks it down a few points (sundance and mackay)

[paper olive]

i remember bf3 was solid game that train level was insanely fun i dont remember bad things from that game

[proven obsidian]

Simpler times created legendary games. Stick to that philosophy. Stop innovating everywhere. Stick to what works and what elevated the series as a industry changing franchise. But you know, we will never get that again. Love and passion are gone and been replaced by greed and live services maintained by skeleton crew the moment the game underperform.

[fervent rose]

it needs twice as many maps and good ones

[patent pivot]

I'll take offline mode with bots

thanks

[ebon pilot]

because 3 and 4 were 10 years ago so everyone forgot what they didn't like about it

[remote kiln]

the games have been out for a decade, of course they will, but when they launched they were broken unplayable messes which was even worse than 2042's launch

[paper olive]

imo tho bad company 2 >BF3>BF4

[arctic grove]

Anyone remember grand operations in bfv they were awesome

[patent pivot]

minor issues with my copy

1. can't change fov

2. no bots

3. only conquest and rush

[paper olive]

breakthrough is fune as hell

Ive been addicting to that lol

[patent pivot]

meh

if it had mcom too

[proven obsidian]

Enjoy your time on the Battlefield, buddy. Don't listen to old and jaded individual like me. Have your fun

[patent pivot]

I am. currently playing bf3 VU, and waiting on bf4 WR to come out

[proven obsidian]

Didn't VU died on arrival tho ?

[patent pivot]

sort of

but

at least I get to enjoy mods and bots

shame it unlocks everything

and no stat progression

wr will surely fix that

[proven obsidian]

what's WR ?

BF4 is still going strong, i don't see a world where mod support is needed for it atm

[patent pivot]

Warsaw Revamped

[proven obsidian]

Never heard of it

[patent pivot]

exclusively for bots

I just want to enjoy any map and game mode without server restrictions

[silver meteor]

I don't like anything I'm seeing of the new Hourglass. 😂

[patent pivot]

you never had that problem with the community of 4?

[proven obsidian]

Can you not...rent a server for yourself and do that ?

[potent yarrow]

Which class has the grappling hook? Recon?

[silver meteor]

Did I miss something or are the objectives not on the roof anymore?? 😭😭

[patent pivot]

I ain't paying jack shit

[chilly jacinth]

You need professional help if you think current hourglass is good

[proven obsidian]

[fervent rose]

Mackay, assault

[silver meteor]

I don't think it's good. I think it's fun

[potent yarrow]

Thank You

[silver meteor]

Basically it's a dice game in map form

Not good, but it's fun

[chilly jacinth]

Dumpster fire

[patent pivot]

whatever

[proven obsidian]

Speaking fo Hourglass, it's an other map where i go : "Ohhhhhhh....erf, ok whatever" just based on layout alone. Sad. What happened to map design ...

[paper olive]

dumb question but what the hell does ERA mean why does it change

my soldiers looks went from looking 2042 to looking like xbox 360 soldiers

[fervent rose]

thats for portal stuff

bf3/bad company 2/1942 modes

[arctic grove]

The game really needs a new game mode

A unique one

[patent pivot]

Carrier assault

instead, it'll be base

[patent path]

oh no

the bot is typing

[proven obsidian]

[arctic grove]

Who is the bot

[iron moat]

xbox games pass online play xbox one S black Changes coming September 1st Beginning on September 1, Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and Xbox Live Gold members will no longer BIG UPDATE PC XBOX ONE X S experience

[proven obsidian]

[patent path]

this is

[fervent rose]

[chilly jacinth]

That's almost readable

Impressive

[patent path]

it's learning

[proven obsidian]

He is speaking in Phil Spencer. We, mere mortals, cannot comprehend

[tacit sphinx]

looks copy pasted from like a web preview or something where the formatting is fucked

lol

[iron moat]

Changes coming September 1st big update xbox one X S PC games pass ultimate console online play games 1 more month 32 more day

[tacit sphinx]

so true

[patent path]

[proven obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/bully-maguire-tobey-maguire-spiderman-gif-24260539

beep bep

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-maguire-spiderman-gif-24594853

[solid imp]

Sigh... this is why we can't have nice things

[patent path]

what? You don't like Tobey?

[proven obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man2-spider-man-tobey-maguire-peter-parker-shocked-gif-26416366

[solid imp]

lol that wasn't about spiderman

more about our local xbox shill

[proven obsidian]

He is doing his best okay

[patent path]

I'm not sure if it's even human