battlefield-2042

[wild marlin]

bro is specifically cut out crawford

2.67

[snow nexus]

Where do i check stats

[fiery shoal]

nothing, but dont place importance on KDR and then snipe on the edge of the map the whole time to inflate that stat and think that makes you good

[snow nexus]

Oh ok

[fiery shoal]

i can see weapon use too...

[wild marlin]

3/4 shots is a headshot

nice

[fiery shoal]

that doesnt mean you land 75% of your shots as headshots...

[wild marlin]

it quite literally does

[fiery shoal]

that just means of shots LANDED, 75% of them are to the head...

[wild marlin]

out of all shots fired

[fiery shoal]

literally not what that means...

[wild marlin]

75% were headshots

[fiery shoal]

my god...

[wild marlin]

nah fam ur wrong 😛

trust me its all shots fired

[fiery shoal]

i hope youre trolling

[wild marlin]

whoever told you that misinformed you

[fiery shoal]

otherwise ill pick up a religion so i could pray for you, but i dont know if even god could help you

[wild marlin]

like you're coming off as indoctrinated

[fiery shoal]

theres literally accuracy right nex to hs%....

[wild marlin]

unable to accept that my dicks bigger

[fiery shoal]

you literally miss 66% of your shots...

[wild marlin]

im gonna need LTG to hop in vc w u

[fiery shoal]

of the 33% you hit, 75% of those are headshot...

[wild marlin]

thats literally suppresive fire from lmgs, dummy

[fiery shoal]

hell for the rorsch you miss 75% of your shots xD

[wild marlin]

fam ur Headshot percentage is bottom 35%

mine is Top 9%

u couldn't hit the broadside of ur mom

[fiery shoal]

my dxr accuracy is way higher than yours, and comparable HS%...

[wild marlin]

damn bro, using the weapons you cant miss with 😂 got me

[fiery shoal]

and somehow you miss with it...

way more than me

[wild marlin]

my dxr percentage is higher than urs?

[fiery shoal]

accuracy.. no

[wild marlin]

get ur prescription checked 😂

[wide shore]

This measuring is wild

[fiery shoal]

51 > 37

[glass vortex]

why you on mans so hard?

[fiery shoal]

ohh wait you dont know what the greater symbol means...

[wild marlin]

hes been dick riding the past 10 minutes like crazy 😂

he sees that aggregate kd number and just goes 😦

[fiery shoal]

is that even english?

i know you failed math, but english too?

[wild marlin]

bro failed the 2042 tutorial 😂

[fiery shoal]

read what he said up till then before jumping in randomly

[fiery shoal]

even if i did suck at 2042, thats way better of a situation than failing math and english...

unfortunately for you im better at all 3 than you..

[wild marlin]

why would you encourage them to read the things that make you look bad take central

i know those deaths be in the double digits in your games fam 😂

[runic creek]

I failed to keep playing 2042

[wide shore]

My K/D is a bit less than Nyphon but I do got more time played by a lot. (For better or worse lmao) my KPM is sub 1.

[wild marlin]

you are free now

bro is stronger than all of us

[burnt plaza]

is my computer just borked since the beta or does connecting a controller seriously cause all controls to lock up. so annoying

[kindred flint]

what in the fuck sperging happened here

[wide shore]

LMAO

[wild marlin]

a splendid victory 🙂

[kindred flint]

as soon as i saw unironic love for battlebit, i knew no intelligent thought would come after it

[wild marlin]

my argument was prox chat should be added to battlefield but if you're tunnel vision'd that bad i cant help you

[kindred flint]

Proxy chat is a dumb thing to add to BF, i dont care about the squeakers that fucked my mom or who just learned an n word

[wild marlin]

i cannot introduce you to what you're missing out on

its like the disappointment i feel when i accept that monkeys cant talk

[wide shore]

As I said. It’s a cool feature. I would love for it to be added. But when compared to the other shit this game needs, it’s probably at the bottom of the long totem pole

[worthy inlet]

Proxy chat shouldn't be added, because I never use it

[edgy oriole]

agree

[wide shore]

Shit I’d use it

[wild marlin]

thats such sound logic

he also may in fact be a dice dev

[worthy inlet]

Won't catch me being a game dev god

[wild marlin]

shoot them ur resume

make sure to screenshot what you said and you'll make executive in a year

[worthy inlet]

Fuck that shit

[kindred flint]

theres literally nothing im missing out on by proxy chat being absent from this game, and i can say that with certainty because ive ran into enough idiots with hot mics on

[wild marlin]

now lets all pretend like there wont be a toggle option present

i love this "I dont think I would use it personally thus no one should have the option to use it"

[lone void]

Can't believe we're doing Wednesday updates now, so cringe

Bring back Tuesday

SMH

[kindred flint]

is it wend again?

[edgy oriole]

agree

[worthy inlet]

If something like that doesn't get used then they shouldn't waste Dev time on it

[runic maple]

Guys

[kindred flint]

last time was because of a Swedish holiday?

[runic maple]

I have a quistion

[edgy oriole]

they should go back to fridays

[wild marlin]

except you know for a fact that there is people who would use it

[lone void]

Friday!?

[edgy oriole]

or was it thursday

[worthy inlet]

There's a whole one person

[edgy oriole]

it been 84 years

[wild marlin]

pursue fortnite

[lone void]

Aight who out here asking for battlefield to be more tactical with prox chat

Next you'll be asking for ranked play

[edgy oriole]

my fav part about battlebit proxy chat is listening to someone say the gamer word then see their name on the top right saying they got banned

[lone void]

No thank you

[runic maple]

Me

[arctic grove]

Good for them

[kindred flint]

99% sure theres a personality disorder present there so it could be at least 2 people

[runic maple]

Imagine doing a takedown and you just trash talk them as you cut there neck

[lone void]

I mean

Why

1. global chat exists
2. grow up?

IDK

[wild marlin]

like once again, please promote the lack of features for the game you like to play, it can only help

[lone void]

I have to go to work now

[runic maple]

Ok bye

[kindred flint]

ive watched enough cursed gun mw2 meme videos to know proxy chat after you kill someone is a worthless feature

[worthy inlet]

I prefer to promote the lack of features in a game I don't play

[runic maple]

Be quite its funni

[wild marlin]

who said anything about after you kill someone?

how about before during and after???

[runic maple]

And i agree with you

[wild marlin]

how it normally is

[runic maple]

That is nice

[kindred flint]

so your argument is more trash before and after? wow youre a good salesmen

[runic maple]

I think battlefeild as big as 2042 would benifet from a optinal prox chat

Cause ya if im breakthrough i dont wanna hear like 20 people yelling

[wild marlin]

bro if i gave you a game company you would pull a bud light so fast

you would literally do things counter intuitive to your success to fit your preferences

[arctic grove]

this game so hard

[wild marlin]

there is no scenario here in which having less is better

having too little is literally this games problem

[kindred flint]

theres no universe in where you would be in control of a game company, so we safe from that eventuality

[runic maple]

How so

[arctic grove]

its hard being top 3

[wild marlin]

pursue fortnite

[runic maple]

Ohhhhh damn

[runic maple]

First good job

[arctic grove]

Don’t sweat it. TBF the average team size is 32-64 players

You can either become a vehicle god or heal 8238383738 people

[arctic grove]

Definitely agree about the features btw

[runic maple]

Second can i have some tips

[wild marlin]

no such thing as a vehicle god, just a squad in 1 vehicle

communicating actively of course

[runic maple]

Have you seen good helis

[arctic grove]

nightbird pilots would disagree

[wild marlin]

except for that obviously

[arctic grove]

I think you misinterpret what I said, I litterally meant that I can't be top 3

SOME of em at least

[wild marlin]

but in my experience they dont last long

one good M5

all it takes

1 soflam

all it takes

[runic maple]

Still if your going for that high you must be good

[arctic grove]

Just play aggressive objective falck ammo box

With the RM68 cheese machine

and its also hard leveling up

[edgy oriole]

in honor of 2042 imma make a root beer float. i know thats falcks favourate

[white geyser]

Well... I only unlock the AEK rifle all I did is use the AK-24 to get 100 kills, but since I unlocked it Idk if the AEK rifle is good

[runic maple]

Bud

I got one thing to say

Ditch the ak the m5 is arguable better

[kindred flint]

he needed to use the gun to unlock a portal weapon...

[acoustic seal]

aek in 2042 sucks, there's a lot of visual recoil for no reason and it can't shoot people at the ranges you usually need to

[kindred flint]

reading context is hard yo

aek is 100% not good, when you compare it to like 90% of the other ARs..portal guns or not

[white geyser]

M5A3 rifle? I already been using it and when I'm not using the M5A3 rifle I'll be using the RM68

[runic maple]

Smart man

[glass vortex]

What I miss

[runic maple]

Both good rifles

Nothing much

[crude stump]

What does NVK-S22 do that Saiga 12m doesnt do better?
With its slow reload and only 10 shells it really feels pointless

[kindred flint]

exactly

[runic maple]

Its ment to be more "precice"

But ya

Screw it

It sucks

[crude stump]

Dice keeps calling it "double barreled " but i do not see anything like that.
Its just a semi auto shotgun?

[runic maple]

Exactly

Its just ehhhhh

[kindred flint]

it has 2 barrels but you shoot 1 at a time

[runic maple]

Like it techicaly is a double berrale

[bleak bear]

all the weapons feel same to me if you keep changing the server settings on me while playing

[kindred flint]

so you get to spend twice as long reloading

[runic maple]

But it just is like

[bleak bear]

416 was good at one point

but when I unlocked it and started using it. they kept nerfing it or changing it in 2042

[runic maple]

Bang i got bored of the 12 m but i like shotguns

[bleak bear]

maybe in bf3 (2042 version) its good but when playing 2042 it feels nerfed

[glass vortex]

dang

[bleak bear]

if you want me to calibrate the weapons you need to quit changing the server settings (nerfing damage, accuracy, range) when I use it

Im pretty sure EA/DICE are using me as a tester

if you guys like G36 give it some time

[kindred flint]

fucking mtar...

[bleak bear]

whats that new one that came out not too long ago? RPT or something its a rifle everyoen uses

I dont use it and I know its still being worked on

no ones cheating lol

if you get banned its your own fault

not our fault you suck

[ebon pilot]

the latv has the perfect seat layout for collaterals

[bleak bear]

who was flying the little bird?

I was almost certain.... tahts sad for reals

I dont need that crap to fly.

he can fly around but he wasnt able to aim at me or kill me on ground

when Season 5 came out

gave it a few games then he was able to hit me when Im dodging him running around on ground

saw you roll which would take some time to steady out

the truck blocked my view for like 2 secs

then your helicopter was flying straight like nothing happened

.... really? LOL

yeah I knew

Yes I knew you couldnt hit shit

or fly for shit either

nice flying tho when I gun

Id rather play on VIP EA/DICE servers. Actually pay monthly just to avoid this on these other servers I see lol.

[kindred flint]

lmao fucking medics are so god damn useless

[bleak bear]

yeah man. are they showing the replays of me playing last night?

EA/DICE are doing that.

They are watching me on server from my gameplay.

They will show the clips Im talking about.

I know its like wtf

Not EA/DICE I mean the crap on server

You really think EA/DICE dont know?

[elfin coral]

anyone got a clean pic of the Nordvik logo?

[dim hatch]

is DodgyBrit in here?

[kindred flint]

@next onyx this might be the best video of all time.. https://youtu.be/KnK_lZBzC3U

and the only time ill condone premade stacking

[next onyx]

I'll check it out in a bit.

[placid echo]

More Dozer parrying lol
https://streamable.com/8efcdg

[kindred flint]

omg theres another video from a couple weeks earlier...this is glorious

dudes hunting him on foot with the lis missile too

[hybrid totem]

Very satisfying but some of those look like misses, which feels like why he cuts out the most satisfying part - the kill.

[radiant prism]

yay

[true goblet]

just hit eod bot mastery

i havent repaired a single vehicle with the eod bot

[fading sparrow]

When I hit r2 my chat tab comes up how to turn off ?

[true goblet]

you dont want to chat with the amazing players of battlefield?

[tardy tree]

who would

[lament iron]

Does 2042 have skill based matchmaking?

[robust vapor]

Nope

[pine tusk]

does anyone know how to fix the issue where whenver i launch bf 2042 it just crashes on the loading screen, or when i turn off overclocking it sometimes loads in all the way but then when i load into a map, even with ai, it just crashes i paid 60 bucks just for this shit to not work i wanna kms

[true goblet]

i just read a lore theory that Oz isnt even real

he is a character made up by either the US or Russia to continue the conflict

this kinda makes sense considering reclaimed is littered with "liars" and "deceivers" graffiti

[crude mountain]

whats your thoughts on new reclaim maps people

[worthy inlet]

But that's just a game theory

[copper fulcrum]

thanks for watching

[worthy inlet]

[copper fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/game-theory-intro-gif-18060414

[true goblet]

fun to play, eerie setting tho

if u take a step back and look at the writing and murals

its kinda creepy

[crude mountain]

yes im really enjoying it nice to see battlefield do some right things lately

[true goblet]

its like the map is trying to tell you something is wrong

[crude mountain]

never looked at it that way hmm zombie mode or giant dinosaurs mode coming lol

[true goblet]

or maybe its just dice bashing themselves as the "liars" bc 2042 sucked at launch

[true goblet]

zombies alr exists in portal and its fun

[crude mountain]

hey it did suck but now atleast we are getting a pretty decent game

[true goblet]

i say better than decent

2042 is a fun game

been playing it daily and not once have i felt bored really

[slow tulip]

Bf5 and BF1 are still fun

[deep pecan]

I just did 5 Breakthroughs on Exposure b2b, what in the??

[onyx mica]

such luck

[arctic grove]

until somebody sweats and cheat

[arctic grove]

Yeah but admittedly that’s a very low bar as for what qualifies as a good game

[quiet shell]

damn I wish I got exposure 5 times in a row

[radiant prism]

That would have a lot of questions about who Zain is, considering he’s been personal friends with Oz for a long time. Not to mention the fact that most specialists have had interactions with him while fighting the US or RU

[upbeat sand]

What is up with this M16 buff

Dam

[elfin plank]

BUFF????

LMAO

ars are dogshit

[upbeat sand]

Only M16

[lunar finch]

thats a MAJOR reach

[cold flame]

Man the RM68 is getting worse and worse.

[elfin plank]

since i actualyy play the game and use the m16

i can CONFIRM

the gun is dogshit

how do you see the patchnotes and go "man ARs are strong"

[next onyx]

M16 having less spread will be a big boon to it.

When I used it it still killed well but the spread would kick in too soon.

And due to how the gun worked how quickly it accumalated spread. This will make it less of a pain to use it at the ranges it should work at.

[elfin plank]

yeah no

[topaz breach]

The spread on the M16 is dog shit

[elfin plank]

m16 is shit

[topaz breach]

Can confirm

[elfin plank]

dont try to be a dice apologist

Ar nerf was stupid to implement anyways

[topaz breach]

Reticle on target and bullets are flying everywhere BUT my target?

[elfin plank]

why apply it to one class of weapons and buff others

[next onyx]

I don't necessarily agree on the SCAR and AK receiving more spread but we'll see how bad it really is.

For testing to hit a sweet spot.

The spread in itself isn't bad but how much they have of it really hurts.

[elfin plank]

the spread IS BAD what are you talking about??

pp29 has next to no spread and out ranges the m16 ar all ranges

so thats okay?

[next onyx]

What I mean is that I don't mind that there's spread but there's too much of it.

[elfin plank]

ok

i thought you meant the spread is fine

20% is too much

[next onyx]

Yeah the amount of spread I don't think is fine but spread in itself I don't think is a bad idea.

[elfin plank]

that i can agree with

maybe like 10% or less would be cool

[next onyx]

If Tac comp was changed to just increase vertical recoil I'd be more inclined to run that more.

[elfin plank]

any higher doesnt make any sense

this is a bigger bf game

[topaz breach]

Do you guys feel like the M16 is super unreliable too?

[next onyx]

As of now?

Yes.

[elfin plank]

M16 is pure garbage

all of the ARs actually

[next onyx]

M16 before the patch was a weird AR to get into but giving it time I fell in love with it.

[topaz breach]

Like some gunfights are won mad easy and others are just the complete opposite

[topaz breach]

Meh, I do like the ACW-R

[upbeat sand]

Good.

[topaz breach]

Granted I haven’t used much of it but I was having fun with it

[upbeat sand]

M16 is getting range increase of 22 damage-18 damage range

[elfin plank]

wont help shit when the spread is basically "pray one of your bullets hit"

[topaz breach]

Fax

That’s the biggest problem I have with the M16

So inconsistent

[elfin plank]

inconsistent is not even the word id use for it

it feels like hellen keller trying to paint

[patent path]

[topaz breach]

Art is subjective though

I’m sure there’s at least one person walking by like “oh my GOODNESS this is so beautiful”

[left hollow]

boris is ultra rpg gamer

[elfin plank]

Dice thinks bullet spread and accuracy is subjective too apparently

[topaz breach]

It’s like they wanted everyone to run around with LMGs and the RM68…

[elfin plank]

to you guys even realize that this game currently is heading down the same path bfv is on?

gunplay was decent in season 4

then they decided to C word the entire game for whatever reason

[topaz breach]

I think I didn’t make it to szn 4 to be honest with ya

[elfin plank]

Guns werent hot garbage in season 4

[topaz breach]

Fav Battlefield though?

[elfin plank]

by far

bf3

[topaz breach]

PEAK

[elfin plank]

bf3 didnt have this much meddling by innept devs

[topaz breach]

I still wish I had my PS3 copy

[elfin plank]

trying to self sabotage the game internally

[topaz breach]

They knew what worked and went with it

But also I feel like Frostbite was in its prime

[elfin plank]

sad thing is

all those devs are gone

now we have these... new... ones

[topaz breach]

By BF4 it felt like there weren’t many changes to the engine in the slightest

[elfin plank]

there was some

but not as bad as this reinventing the wheel garbage

[topaz breach]

While I gotta give them credit…they just really don’t know what they were doing in the slightest

[elfin plank]

throwing shit to the wall and seeing what sticks in my bet

[wild marlin]

I wonder how they gonna make boris a not throw pick

[topaz breach]

Exactly

[elfin plank]

do him like they did irish

[wild marlin]

Change his class?

[elfin plank]

"well no one is playing him guys, how can we make boris better?"

[topaz breach]

What could attract players from all over rather than just sticking to core BF mechanics

[copper fulcrum]

Boris's turret does some decent damage to vehicles right now, that is if the vehicle doesn't decimate it in one shot.

[topaz breach]

It was so sad to see

[elfin plank]

"i know lets nerf him, thatll improve his pick rate"

[wild marlin]

I have an idea that will make boris a better specialist

Whatever target your turret shoots at, you do 20% more damage to them

[elfin plank]

hell no

incentizes camping even harder

[wild marlin]

OK 10%

[elfin plank]

idiots already camp to the extreme with him now

[wild marlin]

Ok so is that a problem with the operator

Or the players

[elfin plank]

how about remove his turret and give him a better gadget

[copper fulcrum]

The turret is incredibly weak but it's still something else to shoot at

[elfin plank]

why does he need the corner camper 9000 kit?

[wild marlin]

How about

You can put it on vehicles

That'd a small niche

You can use it for

[elfin plank]

How about remove his turret and give him more rockets or something

hell no

[wild marlin]

That might make people experiment with him

I think you need to come to terms with the fact that they are gonna double down on his turret

Like they did with crawford

[copper fulcrum]

Boris Turret on the Casper Drone

no

[wild marlin]

Preach

[elfin plank]

yeah no

we need less casualfield non sense

not more

[copper fulcrum]

Crawford's turret is weaker on vehicles than Boris's turret and that's weird

[elfin plank]

C5 drones were a viable thing for way too long

we dont need a repeat of that idiocy

[cold flame]

No, that bad.

[wild marlin]

Are you sure the disparity in damage is as big as you think it is?

Let's be real back when Crawford was a support the turret was just a troll weapon with niche use cases

[remote kiln]

that's what it should be now

[wild marlin]

Now it's a considerable response to deal with armor and infantry who are funelled

[copper fulcrum]

I mean on vehicles

Boris's turret in one burst does a decent amount of damage and is automatic

Crawford you stand still and can't do anything else but fire at it

[wild marlin]

does 10 damage per burst iirc

[copper fulcrum]

It's still less damage which is weird

[wild marlin]

20 if you stand next to it

Bottom line

[remote kiln]

how about it deals 0 damage instead

the preferable option

[wild marlin]

So long as boris has to stand next to his turret for it to be useful

[copper fulcrum]

Then why would it be an engineer gadget?

[wild marlin]

He's gonna suck forever

[remote kiln]

he can just go shoot some birds out the sky

[elfin plank]

remove the corner camping specialist fromt he game

[wild marlin]

His turret shoots perfectly accurate tracer dart

On choppers

Boom good specialist

[copper fulcrum]

Removing a character with a trait is not gonna happen in most games so no

Overwatch isn't removing the junk guy with the grenade launcher

[wild marlin]

She can't cope with the fact that they are making money off him

And is thus never leaving

[copper fulcrum]

Boris is a really weak option compared to most of the other specialist, I don't care about him at all

[elfin plank]

coping about a corner camping specialist?

[copper fulcrum]

Smoke basically disables the turret entirely and the light on the turret is visible through smoke

[elfin plank]

sorry id rather not have 80% of the playerbase all play the corner camping specialist

my bad

i forgot this is casualfield

[copper fulcrum]

I doubt Boris is anywhere near a top pick

[elfin plank]

next time you play

[copper fulcrum]

Especially since we have Casper, Mackay, Dozer, Sundance, Lis and Falck

[elfin plank]

just press tab and look at all the engineer symbols

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah they're probably Lis

[remote kiln]

they're definitely Lis over boris lol

[copper fulcrum]

especially since she has an infinitely regenerating guided missile and can have another gadget with it

along with the repair tool on top of that

[remote kiln]

it should deal no damage to vehicles and should be an infantry weapon instead

[wild marlin]

I really don't ever see a lot of wrenches on my scoreboard

[copper fulcrum]

Most played class globally is Assault and I imagine that's by a rather big margin

[wild marlin]

And support

[onyx mica]

i main lis

[wild marlin]

Recon and engineer are tertiary picks

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah the most played specialist is Falck so it's likely in second place

[elfin plank]

i play in NA

all casuals play boris

[copper fulcrum]

I also play in NA

[wild marlin]

Agree

[copper fulcrum]

I mostly see Mackay, Casper, Lis, Falck or Angel over a Boris

oh and Dozer especially now after that buff he just got

[wild marlin]

But are you trying to say when referring to that

[next onyx]

MTAR ruins people in its current state as well.

[copper fulcrum]

getting a nerf

[next onyx]

YEah and rightfully so.

[copper fulcrum]

Removing the 4BTK which makes sense

Shit's a bullet hose

[next onyx]

It just compounds how bad SMG's are.

[copper fulcrum]

PP-29 is in a good state imo

[wild marlin]

I bet it can't be that hard to replicate bf4 gunplay in 2042

[elfin plank]

smgs being bad?

all of them are currently better than every AR for the most part

[next onyx]

Oh nah being more specific. It outclasses "true" smgs.

[elfin plank]

better spread and accuracy

[next onyx]

True SMG's being high RoF.

[quiet fern]

I just think Boris needs the ability to remote control his own turret.

[next onyx]

Being built for close range, Like an actual SMG.

I did actually think of that, Med.

[quiet fern]

Also maybe increase its DR against non AP rounds

Since that would give more reason to run AP

[karmic egret]

Nerf the pp range

[wild marlin]

Promotes camping

[copper fulcrum]

Boris's turret should have a bit more visibility? Like an IFV light on it similar to Irish's changes

[wild marlin]

Casper: engineer edition

[karmic egret]

Just nerf smg damage to the shithouse

[copper fulcrum]

what is it IFF?

[quiet fern]

And

[copper fulcrum]

fuck it lol

[quiet fern]

If you can't flush out a camper that's a personal problem

I believe in ya

[copper fulcrum]

Camping is just an FPS problem

[wild marlin]

Dying once and coming back to shit on them is a bittersweet victory

[quiet fern]

And having a remote access thing... Don't see how it would promote camping more than sitting next to it and protecting an OBJ with it

Or literally having it spot people for you any time they enter your area.. lol

It's not a problem as is, its more of an inconvenience than anything.

Oh wow, I had to spend 1-2 bullets to destroy the spot bot. My day is ruined.

[wild marlin]

Im seeing alot of text and can't read it all

So I'm gonna assume it supports camping

And that's bad

[copper fulcrum]

The turret does take like two seconds to actually do something which is enough to take cover but considering how much can happen within 2 seconds it can be enough to decide your fate

[elfin plank]

"camping is a personal problem"

sounds like another bf expert

[copper fulcrum]

Additionally, a full burst does about 50% on infantry I think?

and then it takes another 2 seconds for it to fire another burst

[elfin plank]

were just gunna pretend like most people that play this game DONT flock to any corner they se on any map

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah most people don't they run out in the open to objectives and zerg, dying because they don't really utilize cover

[quiet fern]

I like when people corner camp, makes for easy swings

[wild marlin]

Do you think this game on a bell curve?

[elfin plank]

ok john wick

[quiet fern]

Most of my deaths are to cluster bombs from helis or random scout on a crane somewhere now lol... A lot of people don't go near objs but rather fight at the edges

[copper fulcrum]

What do you mean?

[elfin plank]

i bet you got the stats that reflect that too

[copper fulcrum]

I don't understand your bell curve question

[wild marlin]

Do you think there's 20% garbage 60% average and 20% competent

[quiet fern]

I kinda wish there was still the option to call out "LET ME REPAIR YOU"

[wild marlin]

That's the skill bell curve

[copper fulcrum]

If your vehicle is low on health then any nearby engineers will have a repair tool icon above it

[wild marlin]

Most people are OK at the game and can stay positive

[copper fulcrum]

and your vehicle will have a need repair icon above it too

[quiet fern]

Yeah, true. But I feel like a lot of people need like, 200% overstimulation of Ui and sound to realize I'm trying to help them.

"GIVE ME A RIDE" is the most useless input ever since no one ever stops lol

but the AI do

[elfin plank]

are we playing the same game?

most people in 2042 are trash

[quiet fern]

I really need to be more patient.

[wild marlin]

And there you just answered my question

[quiet fern]

I try to play too fast and loose like I used to in bf3 and such.

Not quite as easy anymore.

[wild marlin]

The game isn't on a bell curve and there's a high disparity in skill gap in the player base

[quiet fern]

especially with 128 player conquest, I should play more breakthrough

[elfin plank]

what is there to argue about most people being trash?

[elfin plank]

This

[wild marlin]

You need to take that into consideration when balancing specialist

[quiet fern]

So they need to buff Boris?

[wild marlin]

Or do you just completely ignore demographics

[quiet fern]

[wild marlin]

And do trickle down balancing?

[copper fulcrum]

idk about a Boris buff

[quiet fern]

Nah, I just want his gadget to be a bit more interesting.

[elfin plank]

so we keep a shit tier camping specialist because most players are ass?

just completly ignore trying to improve the playerbase i guess

[quiet fern]

Remote controlling it would be neat.

[wild marlin]

Why do you think I want to promote camping

[quiet fern]

Irish is the best camping specialist

❤️ Irish

[copper fulcrum]

Irish is definitely a better specialist

[wild marlin]

I'll have whatever you're smoking

[elfin plank]

irish is garbage now

yeah ill have whatever youre smoking too

[next onyx]

Irish is still extremely good.

[copper fulcrum]

He still does the job

[wild marlin]

He's actually more necessary to than ever lmfao

[elfin plank]

yeah no

[wild marlin]

Because he's weaker you literally need more of him

[quiet fern]

Still feel like Boris is a big step down from Irish, even though they're separate categories, they have a similar playstyle promotion of OBJ lockdown and Irish just does it far better.

[elfin plank]

is shit tier compared to what he was

[copper fulcrum]

I still see Irish players quite frequently too

Yeah he needed a nerf of some kind

[next onyx]

While I don't agree on adjusting him with explosive spam being just as bad. The change for Irish was needed.

[elfin plank]

because you cant not play him

explosive spam is so bad in the game

you NEED him

[next onyx]

Reviving people is massive nonetheless.

[copper fulcrum]

and he still gets picked quite often

[wild marlin]

Can the next rotation of squid g chaos have aps? Thanks.

[copper fulcrum]

The APS was too powerful, but it's still good to have now

[elfin plank]

squid g is cancer for this game

[quiet fern]

Is there anything that hints to the canon of BF4's ending? Which of the other 2 characters died, since Recker and Irish confirmed to have lived

[copper fulcrum]

Isn't he just a guy who is positive about the game?

[wild marlin]

She's trolling

You can't have her takes and not be trolling

[copper fulcrum]

Some of the loading screen quotes is Irish not wanting to talk about Hannah

[quiet fern]

Ah... That's kinda sad

[elfin plank]

casual spotted lol

"i must be trolling"

because i dont agree with the hivemind

based dumbass take

[wild marlin]

I'm literally the opposite of the hivemind

I'm literally Astral dissent overmind tier

Ur too hormonal to understand

[elfin plank]

maybe its your tism making it hard for you to understand basic concepts lol

[wild marlin]

I understand it's hard for you to have your positions challenged and promptly shutdown

Resorting to accusations of developmental disorders is telling

[copper fulcrum]

Gotta love the elitist behavior tho

[elfin plank]

shut down by what? a baselesss casual that wants to promote camping?

skill issue

[wild marlin]

She can't even read what I type put correctly lmfao

[quiet fern]

Y'all chill please

[wild marlin]

We're dealing with a brick dust filled creature of some sort

[quiet fern]

I'm just here to talk about my thirst for Irish and Falck

[topaz breach]

Falck FTW

[wild marlin]

Nah brother Crawford is the Top G

[quiet fern]

Grandma has your back.

Andrew Tate?

[wild marlin]

He's got your back

[elfin plank]

we're actually dealing with a casual with one too many somes in the noggin lol

[copper fulcrum]

Falck is definitely one of the better picks

[quiet fern]

I just like supporting.

[topaz breach]

who the fuck is Crawford

[copper fulcrum]

Bald guy with the minigun

[quiet fern]

I miss the annoying aa stuff I used to run in bf4

[topaz breach]

I only know risking my life to pick my teammates up

[elfin plank]

this kid is seething lol

[wild marlin]

Falck is the support for blueberries

[elfin plank]

typing an essay

[wild marlin]

Angel is the real one

This female thinks the world revolves around her lmao

[copper fulcrum]

Angel is pretty good for that loadout crate

[topaz breach]

what do you meannnn

[wild marlin]

She cannot comprehend her irrelevance

But angel is the best support fam

Loadout crate is peak

[plain hamlet]

if i enter this battlefield discord and ashlee isn’t in a fight with some random i think she may be dead

[copper fulcrum]

Not sure about 'peak'

But it's pretty good that it replenishes your entire loadout

Bring it to a load of Engineers and you're set though.

[elfin plank]

LOL wassup

just arguing with another casual

[topaz breach]

There are enough Angel's on the field to justify running him just for a loadout crate

[elfin plank]

just another day

[plain hamlet]

i think this argument is the quickest someone resorted to “female” thus far, a new record

[elfin plank]

LMAO

[wild marlin]

This is what I mean tho

As an engineer main

He's my best friend

[elfin plank]

yeah i made him mad when i didnt agree on buffing "camping"

[quiet fern]

Not to be racist but do frags break Crawford turret?

[copper fulcrum]

Probably.

wait what

[wild marlin]

The delusion😵‍💫

[quiet fern]

Neat!

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, a frag will kill the crawford

[quiet fern]

Crawford + Irish is like fighting Poland

[topaz breach]

I'm dying

homie

it ain't that serious

[quiet fern]

What if you wanted to cap a obj but god said no

[plain hamlet]

just shoot ‘em lol

[quiet fern]

Good luck with that if they set up right

It's so fun to do

[plain hamlet]

you’re implying that people know how to effectively use their specialists

[wild marlin]

Can a tank shoot into sight tho?

[plain hamlet]

[wild marlin]

Irish shield can somehow tank 120mm apfsds

[quiet fern]

Shield is denser than me

[wild marlin]

Vibranium

Makes sense cuz Irish is wakandan

But yeah boris can be fixed if his gadget helped him do his job as engineer

[left hollow]

boris is a gigachad thats why people still play him

[jovial jay]

does Boris turret even work well, I have never played Boris

I don't really trust automated firing stuff in here since ranger got my ass detected while sneaking through enemy a few time

and didn't manage to kill anyone

[topaz breach]

dope

M16 T1 Mastery complete

which Ar should be next?

[lament iron]

Ak 24 ?

[topaz breach]

already done

mostly just need vault weapons

[hybrid lake]

GEW-46 done?

[left hollow]

its okay

[lament iron]

MTAR 21?

[left hollow]

its not great but its just a thing you place down every so often

[topaz breach]

Nah, this'll be next

[left hollow]

unlike other specialists it gives you time to focus on actually playing instead of focusing on your gadgets

[topaz breach]

since it came in first

[hybrid lake]

lovely gun, one of my favorite ARs atm actually

but working on the M16A3 now, almost done

[topaz breach]

I actually haven't used it yet so I'm stoked

M16 was such a struggle for me

[hybrid lake]

putting the TV2.0x scope on it fixed a lot of issues for me

[white geyser]

I hardly use the M16... I better go back using it

[paper peak]

learnt how to videoedit, it's over

[hybrid lake]

Standard issue mag transforms the gun from the default high power. Faster fire rate and all

Hit S200 this morning 🥳

[topaz breach]

Fuck ya!

S073

I think I need a lil break from BF though

I haven't touched D4 in like the last two days

[wind spire]

someone to play?

[topaz breach]

check !lfg

[wind spire]

thanks!

[blazing terrace]

Built different

[jovial jay]

yet a grenade can damage tanks

and dual 35mm shot to the body is like tickling them

[wild marlin]

Ik bruh battlefield logic

35mm cannons for the wildcat should fire staggered imo

That would make them easier to use

[viscid bone]

What improvements would you like to see to that?

[wild marlin]

Make his turret help him deal with armor

Any other way that isn't standing in the circle

[quaint vector]

Boris Turret should not be that powerfull IMO

[wild marlin]

Define powerful

And we haven't determined the change yet

[hybrid lake]

already does damage to armor

[wild marlin]

10 dmg per burst

20 if you stand in the circle

Less if shooting front armor

So you can go ahead stand in that circle and pray 🙏

[next onyx]

I did bring it up to Vanta but there's a lot more that goes to it.

[wild marlin]

Huh

[next onyx]

A boris buff.

[wild marlin]

I think it's simple

Bullets from turret rends armor and makes rockets do like 15% more dmg

The passive being increased damage to targets shot by turret

Or like exclusively open gadget damage

[rocky kraken]

aynone else think that dice should make wall destruction remain for longer

its weird seeing no chunks near broken walls

[jovial jay]

yeah maybe that'll make it easier on infantry and maybe heating

but eh I don't know for sure, perhaps slower rof and firing both at once is more beneficial

but tbh if I need to deal with sweat heli like the hind I'd still take the TOR, much more useful for variety of situation

wildcat used to shid on vehicle with the AT missiles but now they have active protection

[wild marlin]

Let's not pretend like at missiles aren't still the best choice for wildcat tho

[robust vapor]

remote control the turret

[pine roost]

If it had a tow secondary I’d take that

[wild marlin]

Turret is so easy to balance

But test server is just theoretical to dice devs so

[pine roost]

I’d say it’s In a good place right now, it’s just the secondary never gets any use

[wild marlin]

I don't think boris is a good place

Any competent player considers him a throw pick

For good reason

[left hollow]

I like Boris as a person that's why I play him

He looks cool

[wild marlin]

Too bad I value function over form :/

[left hollow]

Damn

I mean I just have fun with anyone tbf

With the engineers I like to play Crawford and boris

I don't like lis at all

I find Crawford and boris way more fun to play than lis

[karmic egret]

Toemad

[left hollow]

Yees

[wild marlin]

Crawford is the only engineer I play

Hes peak

[left hollow]

I've had this pfp for so long

[left hollow]

I'm trying to t1 him along with boris

I'm halfway with Crawford but with Boris I'm far away

[wild marlin]

Boris takes an eternity

[left hollow]

I've got 5k damage so far

[wild marlin]

You're better off farming with someone in portal

Only way to get it done in a reasonable amount of time

[left hollow]

Then there's no accomplishment with ut

[wild marlin]

That or get 1k hours in game

I only have 300

[left hollow]

I've been able to get a good amount of damage in a round

[wild marlin]

Have most specialists t1

[left hollow]

500+ I think in one round

[wild marlin]

It's 60 thousand damage tho

So take you're average

And multiply it until you reach 60k

And there's your time investment

[left hollow]

120 games

[wild marlin]

Give or take

[left hollow]

But I mean I just play them I don't fully focus on the t1s

Id love to but it'd take a good while

[wild marlin]

But keep in mind that you're fastest progression is harassing a tank while standing beside your turret

That's the time when your bar is going up the fastest

I'm just gonna farm it when I find someone willing

The more people in the farm the better

[left hollow]

So if I were to farm I'd do it to vehicles?

[wild marlin]

That was my method

I hear that damaging players is better

[left hollow]

Yeah

[wild marlin]

But you need kills

And people don't like getting killed

So you can't farm them

[left hollow]

Kills? It's only damage

[wild marlin]

The damage adds up too fast

[left hollow]

It's not kills with the sentry it's just damage done in general

[wild marlin]

You end up Killing the player

You're not understanding

You need the player alive to keep damaging him

[left hollow]

OH I get it now

[wild marlin]

People won't let you damage them so fast cuz healing can't catch up

[left hollow]

In normal matches I can damage a ton

Esp on breakthrough

[wild marlin]

Eventually people get wise tho

[left hollow]

Yeah but not all the time

They end up getting shot by it a few times

[wild marlin]

And you 9 times outta 10 someone commits themselves to shutting you down

[left hollow]

And I'm repairing it aswell

[wild marlin]

It just can't tank much damage

The health Bar being so small makes the repair irrelevant

[left hollow]

Ok

[wild marlin]

Crawford turret tho

Takes crazy abuse

And the critical repair keeps it alive

[left hollow]

Yeah Crawfords fun

[slow tulip]

Btw BF4, bf5 and even bf2042 players said bf2042 sucks

[wild marlin]

2042 just seems to make incremental improvements as time progresses, so eventually it'll become a passable battlefield

[slow tulip]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/qw1mbw/fuck_it_heres_a_list_of_absolutely_everything/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

They won't get rid of the specialists and bring back the old classes

Only the portal has it obviously, portal isn't totally like the old bf games

[wild marlin]

Would you like a 4th support with a mortar?

I wouldn't mind a 15th specialist

[slow tulip]

Classes were balanced, you could just spawn with weapons that are specific to each classes

[wild marlin]

Elaborate

[slow tulip]

It's not apex legends, its battlefield, so keep the legacy battlefield features

[limber orbit]

Homie wants nostalgia to make a hard comeback

[blazing terrace]

Yes mortars are fun

[slow tulip]

Sniper becomes support with lmg

[blazing terrace]

But they’d need to make it less campy than Bf4 and BF1

[limber orbit]

Bf1 mortar truck pls

Wasn't broken at all lol

[slow tulip]

Squad is garbage in 2042

Still garbage

[blazing terrace]

I swear in Bf4 most supports played as snipers with acogs camping on Shanghai

[wild marlin]

Why shouldn't their be 16 specialist?

[blazing terrace]

Elaborate

[slow tulip]

That's not what i meant, i mean sniper should just spawn with sniper rifles, not with a lmg

[chilly jacinth]

you mean recon

recon doesnt mean sniper

[wild marlin]

Yes

[slow tulip]

Unlike bf5 Squadleaders can't call artillery, vehicles, drop supplies (angel rarely drops supplies) accumulate points by following orders, overall made squadleaders and squad members responsible

[limber orbit]

Like how dmrs and carbines were available for every class in bf4 lol

[wild marlin]

Imagine if you could use prox voice chat to scream at your teammates on the choke to drop the load out crate

[slow tulip]

Also completely ruined the hazard zone

[wild marlin]

But no, some smooth brains can't see a battlefield where the enemies can talk to you

[slow tulip]

But you don't spawn with lmgs at objectives then go on a killing spree when you are a recon

[chilly jacinth]

i can already hear all the gamer words being slung

[limber orbit]

recon with an lmg is a problem why?

[slow tulip]

Squad pretty much doesn't exist in 2042

Bf2 had commander

[chilly jacinth]

and no one used it

just like in bf4

[slow tulip]

That's not how recon is supposed to be

[limber orbit]

lmfao

not allowed to play your way

[slow tulip]

Just provide intel, kill with snipers

[fickle wharf]

Lol

[chilly jacinth]

why

why cant i provide intel while using an lmg

[slow tulip]

You can't equip a 12x scope in bf2042 's lmg, I don't think we even need that

[limber orbit]

what

[chilly jacinth]

huh

[blazing terrace]

Most recons in Bf4 run with a carbine and went on rampages

[chilly jacinth]

wheres the logic

[blazing terrace]

I swear every class including support has the ability to spot and use chat

[chilly jacinth]

you dont need a 12x to provide any intel

[limber orbit]

dude plays it like a milsim

[slow tulip]

Yeah, you can use casper to provide intel with drones

[chilly jacinth]

i think hes forgotten what the recon specialists kit have

[slow tulip]

Recon isn't supposed to spawn with lmg

[chilly jacinth]

like Blasco is a recon that has to be right in peoples faces

to be effective

why not

[wild marlin]

You can do squad play in 2042

It's called communication

[slow tulip]

Ohh yeah, what happened to the old battlefield theme, haven't heard a single time in bf2042

[lone void]

Dawg what the fuck have I come back to

[blazing terrace]

Hell

[limber orbit]

wtf

[lone void]

It plays in breakthrough every time you capture a sector

Really loud actually

[blazing terrace]

Aka the 2042 chat usually

[limber orbit]

he is going to hurt himself in his own confusion

[lone void]

It also plays when you unlock something and level up

[chilly jacinth]

still lvl1

[limber orbit]

is he talking about the 1942 theme?

[lone void]

Also the BF4 theme is in the background of the weapons part of the S5 trailer

[chilly jacinth]

[slow tulip]

The theme that was in bf1942 to bf5

[limber orbit]

he gon loose he mind

[lone void]

Also, on the "Recon" argument, they've always been able to use shotguns as a shared weapon for all classes so silence yourself

[chilly jacinth]

and smgs

[lone void]

Yeah but shotguns make the point funnier

It's the polar opposite of a sniper

[slow tulip]

Fine everyone needs a close range weapon

[chilly jacinth]

tru

[slow tulip]

Don't give RPGs to recon

[blazing terrace]

Like a pistol

[lone void]

Recon don't have RPGs in this game

[blazing terrace]

Recons don’t have rocket launchers tho

[lone void]

[limber orbit]

have you even played since the class update?

[chilly jacinth]

have you even played the game in the last 3 seasons?

[lone void]

Has he played the game at all is my question

[limber orbit]

lol

[lone void]

Especially after that dirty theme comment

[limber orbit]

he is one of them tryhard trolls maybe

[lone void]

This is like the rocket pods on jets all over again but somehow worse

[blazing terrace]

The 2042 theme goes hard

[lone void]

[slow tulip]

I have 131 hours in bf2042 according to steam

[lone void]

Epic, I have nearly 600

[limber orbit]

610 yea baby

[chilly jacinth]

bf tracker says almost 820 for me

but steam says like 1200

[slow tulip]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9GtdqvVPZX8?feature=share

[limber orbit]

tracker for actual gameplay maybe?

[lone void]

Does BF tracker count menu downtime

[limber orbit]

379 hours for me

[lone void]

Oh he used a meme to prove a point I guess

[chilly jacinth]

ye pretty sure tracker only gives you actual gameplay time

[blazing terrace]

Well boys we did it

We won

[lone void]

You know I'll never get why people will waste so much time bitching here instead of playing a game they enjoy

[blazing terrace]

I think we all deserve to be deafened by the 2042 theme

Just like the game

[limber orbit]

bass boosted

[lone void]

I'm having lunch at work so I don't want to inflict that on everyone

[limber orbit]

dew it

[blazing terrace]

Yes you do don’t lie

[lone void]

The bass is the best part

[slow tulip]

https://youtu.be/-uEc8_dcYUc

[lone void]

Yeah real

[slow tulip]

This sounds better than bf2042's theme

[lone void]

Ok but

Didn't ask

[blazing terrace]

You ever heard the menu music from BfV that goes straight to your soul

[lone void]

We all know BF4 goes the hardest

[blazing terrace]

We do

But the bfv menu music hits deep

[lone void]

I only played V like twice

[slow tulip]

Bf2042 butchered the theme

[lone void]

It's futuristic and bassey

Very suitable to the theme of the game

[blazing terrace]

Go listen to the bfv menu theme

That flute will get you

[blazing terrace]

Really didn’t

Just made it into a new style of music to fit the future

[lone void]

Hey I just remembered my pfp here is literally a Recon with an SMG

[lone void]

BF1

[slow tulip]

Give medic a rpg next

[chilly jacinth]

🧂

[lone void]

Bro played 150 hours of the beta and nothing else

[limber orbit]

dude havent played since the class update

[blazing terrace]

The only class that has a rocket launcher is the engineer

[limber orbit]

sittin there in his own little bubble

[slow tulip]

According to steam i last played today

[blazing terrace]

Bros playing battlefield 2032

[limber orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/right-lol-yeah-ok-yea-gif-5695937

[lone void]

I implore you to turn the sound on and memorise the class icons

You might just change your mind on every point you've made so far

[chilly jacinth]

What points

[next onyx]

Bf5 had really good themes.

[lone void]

Thanks Way

This guy got me so fucked up I picked up a fork to eat a yogurt

[slow tulip]

You could use anti tank launchers with the support before that update

[limber orbit]

bf1 and 5 had really nice themes

[lone void]

I might be wrong in saying everyone here has played since at least launch, but yes, you could use a launcher as anyone before the class update

[limber orbit]

indeed you could

[blazing terrace]

There’s a reason it’s called a class rework

[next onyx]

40MM AP with an ammo box just worked better for me.

[blazing terrace]

It reworked the specialists into classes

[next onyx]

Having such little ammo with my gun pissed me off so much.

[blazing terrace]

While keeping the specialists around

[lone void]

Is the AP launcher actually significantly better than the HE on vehicles? I know it sounds stupid but I'm curious because I'm lazy

[chilly jacinth]

yes its better

[lone void]

Is it only on SFAR?

[chilly jacinth]

nah its on other guns too

[lone void]

Ah cool

[chilly jacinth]

dont remember which ones though

[onyx plaza]

hi

[lone void]

I will continue to exclusively use Lis when vehicles piss me off, thank you for the information

Actually wait

[onyx plaza]

that is a whole mood

[chilly jacinth]

Lis, AP gl, c4 and ap nade

[lone void]

Bullseyeing a hind with a grenade launcher sounds badass

[chilly jacinth]

youre gonna wreck vehicles

[lone void]

Yoooooo

Real

Also

On the topic of engineers

Their class perk sucks

[onyx plaza]

facts'

[chilly jacinth]

i dont even know what it is

[lone void]

It's meant to increase weapon stability when crouched or prone for LMGs

Uh

It doesn't really help

Especially the PKP

[limber orbit]

oh yes the lmg stuff

[lone void]

Still shit

[onyx plaza]

yep

[chilly jacinth]

stability

wow thats useless

[lone void]

It's quite bad

[next onyx]

Wait stability?

[lone void]

I'd sooner put an LMG on Recon

[next onyx]

It improves dispersion.

Not recoil. Though crouching will naturally reduce your recoil.

[limber orbit]

improved accuracy when crouch or prone

[lone void]

It "improves" something and I don't care to remember what that js because it's not good

The issue with LMGs was never accuracy

[next onyx]

Yeah accuracy. It improves your accuracy which reduces dispersion.

[onyx plaza]

that doesnt help while on the move and thats why everone camps with them

[next onyx]

I personally don't have an issue with crouching mid gun fight with an LMG.

I like that it's encouraged.

[lone void]

I personally do have an issue

At least 1

[next onyx]

Reminds me. My mate from xbox had a habit of doing that in very fight.

[lone void]

My main point here is the PKP is absolute garbage

And as a secondary the engineer proficiency is bad

[onyx plaza]

yep

[limber orbit]

eh i dont have a problem with the PKP

[arctic grove]

How is that? Thats the best LMG to me

[lone void]

LCMG is bae

Either the PKP or me specifically using it can't shoot straight for shit

It just goes up and sideways but really horribly and doesn't kill fast enough to make it reasonable

[chilly jacinth]

youre not supposed to aim with it

just spray and pray

[lone void]

Man I tried that too

CQC just never ends well

[arctic grove]

The PKP is the fastest to kill in my mind, talking about LMGs

[chilly jacinth]

ive gotten a few 10man sprays with it

[lone void]

You know, I mag dumped a guy with the G36 at almost point blank the other day and nothing even registered he juts came over and stabbed me

[arctic grove]

It shreds definitely

[chilly jacinth]

Ive had that happen

[lone void]

I think I'm cursed

[chilly jacinth]

but with the railgun in auto