battlefield-2042

[hybrid totem]

nightbird pilots are ridiculously vindictive

I really hope the new aa options level the playing field

[quiet shell]

Man I'd love to talk to the guys who decide the spawn positions for contesting objectives and ask WHY WE'RE PLACED IN THE ONLY PARTS AROUND THE OBJECTIVE WITH NO COVER IN FULL VIEW OF DEFENSIBLE POSITIONS

IF YOU DON'T WANT US TO RETAKE THE OBJECTIVE THEN DON'T LET US SPAWN ON IT WHEN IT'S CONTESTED

[zealous loom]

[bitter mulch]

7th comes the New season, on 8th a have an exam 🙃

[scarlet shard]

I never saw a guy hate one of thing in the game like this.

[bitter mulch]

BF Will have to wait

[hybrid totem]

there's a few of us

[zealous loom]

PTFO IRL

[quiet shell]

Oh no I hate many things about this game

This is just my daily venting

[placid echo]

That's kinda sus

[arctic grove]

[next sorrel]

the most comical spawn placement ive seen in a game is tehran highway B flag

literally spawn right behind enemies

and then they spawn behind you

or you spawn in the open surrounded by 5 enemies

its funny if they dont notice you tho

[quiet shell]

oh right I'm not allowed to dislike 2042 plz dont ban

[mighty holly]

I mean he doesn’t mind

Ngl game is really mid just need lads to make the game fun

[next sorrel]

everything is fun with friends tho

[placid echo]

I mostly play by myself on 128 conquest and do dumb shit, yet end up with most kills somehow

[mighty holly]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-yes-precisely-absolutely-totally-gif-17449520

Wish I had those

Ngl I have more fun playing bfv by myself than 2042 sadly

[next sorrel]

you and me both

well i have a decent amount of friends but most of them dont really play video games

[mighty holly]

I had them but they didn’t really wanna play battlefield with me and they stayed with cod and well abandoned me

[arctic grove]

I should start sending random players friend requests so I get some people to play 2042 with

Its definitely more fun than alone. Older ones have been good solo but 2042 isn't

[mighty holly]

That’s the plan everyone should do

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[gritty tapir]

fucking npc medic standing over my deadbody and not reviving lmao

[dapper river]

and if they do revive, they either

• manually pull out the defibs and tap, giving you only 20hp and you immediately die
• revive out of cover, in full view of the enemy and you immediately die

I was in a breakthrough match the other day and some guy went "revive pls" in chat, later in the round I died next to him and he was Angel, and he of course didn't notice

[naive magnet]

That CAV Brawler Crossroads Skin is so bad

You clip on everything

[mental delta]

You don't have friends Angra ? 🥲

[mental delta]

Most of gun/vehicle/specialist skins that aren't camos are bad in this game

[mighty holly]

I mean I do got some co workers that i may call lads but idk

but I do mean irl lads

[mental delta]

That's sad ngl

Everyone deserves irl lads

[mighty holly]

true

Just need to find some that aren’t shady or refuse to do shit

and so on and so forth

But it is what it is sadly

[bitter mulch]

All my Lads Play cod/warzone🙃

[warm crater]

I need a competent squad ngl

[fresh cairn]

1 Week till even more busted M16A3 ayayyaaayayaya

[warm crater]

All my friends play destiny 2

they’re kinda good

but I still don’t go anyone to play with💀

[naive magnet]

Was there a buff/nerf patch already specified? I only see vehicle changes

[fresh cairn]

It's somewhere in the server but some Protal weapons are getting 2042 attachments

M16 is gonna be so fucking broken it's gonna be great

[naive magnet]

I’ll give it a shot, right now, nothing comes close to the RM68

[bleak bear]

I can see the RM68 getting nerfed.

[supple echo]

are my posts showing up?

[arctic grove]

I hope so, can't stand this gun

[spare quest]

nerf already confirmed

[gentle shore]

i honestly got bored of the RM already

i just dont get how people still can use it

[spare quest]

skill issue

[gentle shore]

fair point

[gritty tapir]

rm68 users gonna be so homeless after nerf

[gentle shore]

it's going to be like the BSVM nerf

just sliiiiiightly worse

but enough so people go back to sfar

[naive magnet]

If they nerf the rm68 then it’s back to the sfar or whatever

People are gonna use whatever is the most powerful gun

That’s literally any game, not just BF lol

[mental delta]

Refuse to do shit ? What do you mean ?

[mental delta]

People really got skill issues

[naive magnet]

It’s not really a skill issue

It’s using the best weapon, if you use some gun and it’s a 5 shot kill vs a 4 shot, why are you using the 5 shot gun

[mental delta]

Because the 5 shot kills gun may look better ?

[naive magnet]

I mean I guess

But if you want kills, then by logic, you’ll use the best gun

Or you’ll give yourself the challenge of unlocking t1 on non-meta guns

Nothing wrong with either approach? But it’s not skill issues lol

[mental delta]

Guns were more balanced on previous BF games though, sure some games were good af and some other mid, but on this game some guns are just cheated af and some others shouldn't even exist

[naive magnet]

There are always “good and bad guns”

But if you’re using a bad gun, you’re likely losing any duel unless you get the drop

[hidden latch]

Is there a open screen adjust option on 2042 bc parts of my screen is out and not fully in which kinda annoying

[fresh lintel]

Meta vs non meta really does come down to map knowledge and reading/knowing your opponent honestly.

Which if you're both on equal footing its probably going to be the meta users win unless you get a drop

But theres nothing wrong with using non meta

[mighty holly]

_ _

[kindred flint]

cant make the shit up...start of a kale match, condor pilot hovers to the top of the C2 tower...bails out

i parachute down get a kill, die..look at the map and 5 people (all 3 squadmates included) are camping on roofs

time for a new lobby..fuck that

[mental delta]

That kinda says it all, add me on PS if you want to though

[copper ice]

the difference between 2042 good guns and older bf good guns was that older bf guns were better in different scenarios

[mental delta]

You're losing any duel no matter what gun you're using if the enemy got a RM-68 anyway

[copper ice]

they all had their niche

there is no niche in 2042

[naive magnet]

The RM68 is the King of All Trades

[copper ice]

rm68 wins against every automatic at basically all ranges

everything not an automatic is inferior to an automatic outside of svk and bsvm and they both lose to rm68 apart from at like 75m maybe

it might even beat them there

there's like 2 smgs that beat it within 20m

pbx has with the ammo type that has been "bugged" for over a year and the ac9

they only just beat it

and then its way superior to them outside of 20m

even just in bfv there was a niche for basically every weapon

there were a handful that were inferior to all alternatives but basically everything had something going for it

this doesn't apply to 2042 at all

accuracy and recoil is pretty irrelevant outside of a couple of lmgs and the smgs

which makes everything based on rof and damage values

of which the rm68 excels in both areas

so its just better

the devs have literally no excuse for fucking this up

[mighty holly]

_ _

[copper ice]

takes 2 minutes of comparing values on a spreadsheet to go oh yeah this is fucked

[upbeat sand]

Oh no Enders said something positive about the new map now he will be called a Ea shrill and got paid to promote by redditor

[copper ice]

why should you care about any of the peoples opinions you mentioned

[kindred flint]

oh yeah...losing to an rm even up close..rip xm8

[pure matrix]

when does the new season drop

[mighty holly]

!!when will new season drop

[tender pendant]

Soon™

[mighty holly]

there ya go

[pure matrix]

thank you!

[kindred flint]

bruh i just left a caspian match why are you putting me in another round of that

[upbeat sand]

Next week

[pure matrix]

Thank you!!

[kindred flint]

start shooting someone first...they turn with rm and still kill me jesus christ dice

[patent prism]

I don't mind the RM68 personally.

Primarily an RM68 user.

[pure matrix]

I just want to unlock it before they nerf it lol

[upbeat sand]

That's why I use the acr

[ebon pilot]

I'm glad weapons are unlocked so if I get pissed off at the RM68 users I can also pick it and then we'll see who's better

[white geyser]

RM68 is fine for me and I usually use it

[patent prism]

I used to use the DM7 exclusively but the RM68 is so ridiculously appropriate to my lack of defensive skill that I perform better in every situation with the RM68 compared to the DM7.

[kindred flint]

lmao alright starting off 3-7 in that match, im just not going to play right now

too much bullshit

[patent prism]

Better luck next time

[kindred flint]

dying to an RM twice over and vehicles 4 times..yeeeah not feeling the game

[mental delta]

You have 1 week then

[hot kayak]

so is season 5 not launching with the vehicle loadout update? they worded that weird in the development update

[pure matrix]

thinking about just waiting til the next season and doing the unlock challenge. I dont have the time to grind that much these days

[mental delta]

I finished this season's BP so I'm waiting for next season too lol

[mighty holly]

I’m still not finished

[kindred flint]

gitgud?

[mighty holly]

More like play more

haven’t played since like a month now and that was when I installed it

[copper ice]

my condolences

the dm7 is not treated well by dice

[arctic grove]

I like using the SVK

[copper ice]

svk is very good

[kindred flint]

ironically ive played more since i finished the BP

thats only because i had the dumb idea to become lmg main

[mighty holly]

I kid you not I would also play more if I can

kamikaze

[patent prism]

Thank you for your condolences.

[patent prism]

It most certainly is not.

[arctic grove]

wtf

[patent prism]

Apparently the DM7 is still the weapon I have vastly more kills with. 3045 DM7 kills compared to RM68 at 1774 kills.

[ebon pilot]

how

[kindred flint]

controller or mouse?

[ebon pilot]

I hate the DM7 it's horrible and can't understand why anyone else would like it

[patent prism]

Mouse and keyboard.

[kindred flint]

your fire finger must be absolutely monsterous

[ebon pilot]

I also got T1 with it so you can trust me when I say I have experienced it

[kindred flint]

dm7 is another case of "an AR can do it better"

[patent prism]

I didn't like it initially but due to being Arma-damaged with only using semi-auto, I chose to (rather than adapting to full-auto weapons) go with the DMR to deal more damage with every (albeit rare) hit.

[patent prism]

My gf seems fairly satisfied with it for what that's worth.

[arctic grove]

yess

[ebon pilot]

Yes, I much prefer the SVK or BSV-M since they hit so much harder

[patent prism]

Also; subsonic ammo.

[arctic grove]

I should use th am40 more

[patent prism]

The SVK is tolerable, the BSV-M is okay. I think the biggest problem I have with DMRs in general is that I am very aggressive in my playstyle and therefore am constantly handicapped by having a firerate cap.

[ebon pilot]

So instead of using the DM7 you should... Fix your Arma-damaged brain and go full auto

[kindred flint]

you shouldnt have an issue with the bsvm in full auto even up close

short barrel is op

[patent prism]

That's why I use the RM68 mostly these days.

[patent prism]

I have had a lot of fun with that configuration, not going to lie, but there's something about it that just does not sit well with me.

[kindred flint]

the fact its absolutely broken?

i honestly dont even get why it has barrel options lol..dice should have just made it a regular barrel

[patent prism]

It feels a little cheap to use it in that capacity, yes.

[kindred flint]

once you get the HP subsonic i think is what i run, its just a monster

[patent prism]

Yeah.

The main attractive point of the BSV-M for me is that it has subsonic high-power ammunition.

[kindred flint]

it was hyper stupid pre nerf, full auto lasering people at 100m..

[patent prism]

Don't think I have used it since the nerf.

[kindred flint]

i used it, might have t1'd it dont even remember..after not touching it for a long time..and it was still busted

[patent prism]

Yeah, balance is not the strong point of this game.

In fact, I am not sure what is the strong point of this game.

[kindred flint]

same with the avancy, i used it a bunch when it released and stopped because it felt so scummy, just finished the T1 on it days ago, still strong af

[copper ice]

dm7 subsonic is flat worse than bsv subsonic

[patent prism]

Agreed, still prefer DM7 subsonic.

[copper ice]

i admire the chosen pain

[patent prism]

I get along with the recoil better with the DM7 using subsonics and a suppressor.

[copper ice]

this is my favourite thing anyone has said about 2042 because i'm thinking about it and i genuinely can't name anything

[patent prism]

I feel slightly honored that it's your favorite thing to be said about the game.

[kindred flint]

gun balance is fucked, vehicle balance is non existent

map design uhh...yeah

surely dice got something right, and improvement from bfv?

[patent prism]

not being set in WW2

[kindred flint]

ig the weaponry was kinda limited

[frail ravine]

Twitch drops would be a good addition

[kindred flint]

after going to ww1....2 wasnt exactly that much different due to how many full auto things dice put in ww1 lol

[frail ravine]

It'll get more people to watch and play

[patent prism]

Yeah. Call me idiotic if you want but because I have studied the World Wars religiously since an early age I found the prevalence of prototype weapons rather discouraging in some way.

I think most historical setting games suffer from that inevitable accurate inaccuracy.

[kindred flint]

i get why they went and did it...bolt action only gameplay on a large scale like that would have been boring

but at the same time it just felt like a ww2 reskin

[patent prism]

In the sense that they want to balance historical accuracy with player choice. Which ultimately ended up in a system that doesn't really fit either party.

[arctic grove]

Concept of 128

[patent prism]

Meh.

[patent prism]

On a, perhaps funny, sidenote; I'm not sure what BFV would have looked like without the absolute crackpot workshop that was the German Waffenamt research & development division.

Unsung heroes of all arcade WW2 games.

[frosty flint]

LCMG Tier 1 = attained

i guess RPT next?

[hardy kestrel]

It makes me so sad because there's definitely a role for the Nightbird but it's just too well armed and too maneuverable. It should be this scrappy little transport helicopter that does hit and run but instead it just makes a mockery out of the game with on board repairs and the fact you can fire rockets from it.

[frosty flint]

K30, RPT, DM7, SVK, 12M Auto, or one of the snipes, which tier 1 do i go for next?

[raven haven]

Hear me out
Next battlefield
Medieval

[kindred flint]

dm7/snipers would be the hardest to t1

[raven haven]

Medieval battlefield would be funny

But with a few modern things in for gooofiness

[frosty flint]

yeah i think i should go for that

[wooden berry]

BSV-M

[frosty flint]

Maybe i do all the snipes at the same time to get good at them

[frosty flint]

already have it tier 1-d

[hardy kestrel]

I think we already have that with mount and blade 2

[raven haven]

Knights on motorbikes

[raven haven]

Or chivalry 2

Or what about a really infuriating Battlefield with gun jams boots laces getting tangled with eachother and you falling
Randomly tripping on rocks

[frosty flint]

Actually i think i'll decide based on which skin looks prettiest

that's a smart play

[vital mauve]

Been using the 12mm and it’s fun af to use it just feels lazy af

[frosty flint]

12M auto has a damn sexy T1skin too ngl

Should i challenge myself to t1 it only using slugs?

[turbid minnow]

I bought the battlefield bundle on steam (it had 4,1,V). I've just downloaded and played BF1 with some friends for the first time and they all said it was shit (gunplay, vehicles, overall "feel") and that BF2042 is way better (they've been playing it a lot recently without me). To be fair I wasn't all that keen on the BF1 gunplay either. Before I buy it, is there any truth to it? We're all new to the BF franchise. Just asking before I buy ANOTHER battlefield game.

[arctic grove]

they're talking crap

don't pay any attention to them

[copper ice]

one of the commonly agreed upon traits of 2042 even among people who like the game is the gunplay is horrendously shallow and the vehicles are very poorly balanced

[dapper river]

Releasing the season 5 trailer last friday was a huge L, they should've waited until this friday. Now the wait is unbearable

[turbid minnow]

On the one hand I wanna trust the fanbase. But my friend group are all telling me that the BF fans are just salty because of how bad the 2042 launch was. And I definitely agree that there's a big difference between being a long time fan that's been totally soured, and some completely fresh eyes to the game and franchise.

[brittle hound]

what is the new map based on in past bf

[arctic grove]

we'll see about their game tastes...

[turbid minnow]

They like COD a lot and some reviews say that 2042 has very COD like gunplay. Is that true?

[brittle hound]

nvm

its Zavod 311

[arctic grove]

sort of

it has traversal sprint

minus the camera and arm shake animations

[copper ice]

It's significant, I'd say the strong point of bf1 was definitely atmosphere and bfv was probably an attempt at having variety of player choice (reinforcements, fortifications, upgrade trees for weapons and vehicles, poorly implemented combat roles)
all 2042 really has is 128p and that can be directly linked to basically every single weak part of the game (maps gunplay vehicles etc); it's got nothing it really can hold up as it's defining trait

[copper ice]

it feels vaguely like someone tried to copy the original blops and failed if i had to compare it to COD

[arctic grove]

and if you're going to ask next if old BF games are like old cod at that time

n o

[copper ice]

I didn't buy the game at release, I got a year of EA play about 4 months ago and the game was not impressive to me at all

I'd give it a 3/10

[arctic grove]

same here

now...

[turbid minnow]

Yeah apparently there weren't even classes at launch until recently lol

[arctic grove]

had they not abandoned portal and improved the ai bots

I'd say it's relatively okay

[candid mist]

I'm am watching new season pass

Hyped excited 😊

[copper ice]

i played shortly before classes were added and for a little while afterwards; imo, all it did was make dealing with vehicles a massive pain in the ass

the class system is very clearly just bolted on top of the specialists

[kindred flint]

nah i hear from vehicle mains there are minumum of 33 lis' every game of 64p matches shooting rockets at them

[arctic grove]

imagine that, but UCAV

thats hell on earth

[turbid minnow]

If I had to guess why anyone would say 2042 was better than 1 in every way, it might just be a setting issue. I suppose the feel they were going for with WW1 guns is that they're supposed to not be zero recoil laser beams. These videos I'm seeing of 2042 gameplay seem to be people standing upright and full auto beaming from mid range.

[copper ice]

you can beam to 100m with any assault rifle

[arctic grove]

Lmfao wtf, opinions are cool but they’re totally wrong

[copper ice]

while strafing

guns have absolutely minimal recoil and spread

which leads to a lot of them feeling samey

[kindred flint]

LMGs are just big ARs

unless the ar is the rm68 then the lmg is shit

[turbid minnow]

I see that's probably it then. If you don't like dealing with inaccuracy then 2042 will probably be your favourite.

[copper ice]

lmg is an AR with 10x larger mag size that has slightly higher recoil and is slower to fire out of sprint

[vital mauve]

Starting to like playing as Casper ngl

[tidal blaze]

I’m so confused 😐

[copper ice]

smg is an AR with worse range, a little bit of spread and slightly higher rof

[arctic grove]

thats my least problem with the game

[vital mauve]

Is c5 drone still a thing?

[copper ice]

yeah but it gets heavily slowed with each c5 on it

[vital mauve]

Damn that’s lame

[turbid minnow]

What's the worst part?

[arctic grove]

People heavily overexaggerate BF1s gameplay and just kind of apply a very blanketed “immersion over gameplay” thing, which in general annoys me since DICE 100% listens to shit like that (and it’s why they’re so out of touch), a more realistic explanation is it has dated gameplay mechanics but it’s certainly more enjoyable than 2042 since not only does it work but it’s immersion building and atmosphere really makes you feel like you’re in the war

2042 gunplay and movement is the direct result of BF1 and V doing something good and getting shit for it regardless

[arctic grove]

nit picky feat: lack of offline content and AI bots

I wouldn’t consider those nitpicks tbh, games feel more like temporary licenses with how you can’t even play some solo content without being online and connected to servers the devs own

[arctic grove]

movement is a downgrade in 2042, wth?

come on

[turbid minnow]

I just looked it up and found out there's no campaign

[arctic grove]

No campaign was disappointing considering dice actually created a solid sounding story lol

[hybrid totem]

Wait you only started playing this in the last six months?

[arctic grove]

what game?

older BF had campaign

2042 does not have campaign, but bots for Portal

[turbid minnow]

2042, you were mentioning no offline stuff

[slender isle]

I mean, bf4 story sounded cool

Shit in execution

But sounded cool

[arctic grove]

I think it is, it’s generally lighter and stripped of any drawbacks and movement mechanics

You just slide jump everywhere

[arctic grove]

from Bad company to today, they dont have any way to play multiplayer modes offline

Can’t even climb

[arctic grove]

rip FP animations

It’s all designed to be as trendy as possible IMO

the bandwagon travesty

they sold out

for quick garnering the fans

[turbid minnow]

• Devs play Apex Legends once

[arctic grove]

I think it would be cool if it really emphasized on the grim world of 2042

[arctic grove]

lets remove some silly spec

and cosmetics

[arctic grove]

Yep precisely

and that may do the trick

[arctic grove]

I hate specialists but I admire dice sticking to at least being somewhat serious with the cosmetics

I hate the general trend in mtx fps to have the goofiest shit lol, they barely have consistent themes and just makes it feel like TF2 or something

or apex

[turbid minnow]

I just looked up specialists. So it's like Siege? Hero shooter stuff

[arctic grove]

yep

btw

siege is now a dog shit game

it used to be cool back in the days

now its hot garbage

I know some people say gameplay is most important but the general theme, atmosphere and aesthetics are imo more memorable aspects, but at the very least objectively are just as important

so

[arctic grove]

as a player that focuses more on design style and atmosphere

yes

Siege just seems weird now, some of those operators look like they don’t even belong in the game

[arctic grove]

blame esport

And the ‘skill gap’ is genuinely killing it lmao

and the director blokes of the game

[turbid minnow]

Yeah I redownloaded it a few years back. Some albino bitch ran at me so I shot her but she vanished because in the Siege universe they've weaponised Schizophrenia.

[arctic grove]

remember when siege used to be dark

and have realism tone

[turbid minnow]

remember the trailer?

[arctic grove]

remember the opening intro?

Trailer to launch was crazy

remember when the game was focused on this terrorist group?

shit hit the fan real hard

all those efforts and lore

out the window

[turbid minnow]

oh yeah, the one coop campaign mission

[copper ice]

yeah no way i was buying this game, i started playing when it was added to ea play

[arctic grove]

Sorta, it was just a poorly executed corporate cash grab that didn’t belong in battlefield

[hybrid totem]

So how long did you play it before swearing it off

[arctic grove]

rememebr when soldiers yelled

and they sound like satirical, war cries

Yes

[arctic grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J4qZtfv1g8&pp=ygUZYmF0dGxlZmllbGQgNCB2b2ljZSBsaW5lcw%3D%3D

[worthy elbow]

Can't even run medic anymore. No one waits for revives

[turbid minnow]

Lmao just looking up the characters and I'm seeing that the guy from the wire was one of the specialist

[arctic grove]

I think that’s why BFVs revive screen pretty much forced you into being revived by medics, they just can’t make people depend on others in this game

And BF1 medics could revive an entire team in 3 milliseconds

[arctic grove]

yeah, Irish is valid since he was also in BF4

[copper ice]

March 10th, 172 hours

[turbid minnow]

My friend just bought me a one month subscription so I can try BF 2042 with them.

[hybrid totem]

Just seems like a lot of hate for such a short time playing. Are you a long time bf franchise player?

[turbid minnow]

Almost scared I'll like it given how much shit talk it's getting

[worthy elbow]

That's why Mackay the goat

[arctic grove]

Oh man don’t get me wrong. Go into it open minded and see how you enjoy it and how it plays for you

idk if this game would make it worse or...

[hybrid totem]

above all, try it out and make up your own mind

[turbid minnow]

No doubt

[arctic grove]

what if 2042 class had something like battlefront

[hybrid totem]

I admit it has issues (mostly nightbirds) but I really enjoy it

[turbid minnow]

Yeah I want Putin to show up with a lightsaber mid match

[hybrid totem]

...neither of those things would fit in the game

[arctic grove]

Yes it would

[hybrid totem]

in battlefront?

[arctic grove]

Of course!

honestly

where the F are my soldiers

[hybrid totem]

...on the battlefield

[arctic grove]

who are they anway

where ARE my soldiers

with balclava mask

[hybrid totem]

WHERE are my soldiers

where are my SOLDiers

[arctic grove]

goggles

[next sorrel]

and bullets around their neck

[copper ice]

I played bfv for a long time yeah

[hybrid totem]

I hope you find a game that you enjoy as much as you did bfV

[next sorrel]

only bf5?

[hybrid totem]

(I can't wait for DICE to release bf5 so we have a ton of confusion between bf5 and bfv)

[next sorrel]

next game will be bf6

bfV is bf5

[hybrid totem]

Did you think the next game would be bf6, but were surprised to find it was 2042

[next sorrel]

think? yeah. surprised? no

[safe bramble]

Idk whether to be happy or sad we are continuing 2042

Their decisions keep proving that infantry being able to solo anything and everything is the priority

[hybrid totem]

if you have the choice, be happy

[next sorrel]

be sad

[safe bramble]

Already am

[next sorrel]

this is just how it works out sometimes

[sturdy socket]

anti tank grenades get added

yep, devs don't know the definition of vehicle armor

[arctic grove]

128 players max

Anti tank grenades exist

[next sorrel]

anti tank grenades are so 1918

[hybrid totem]

do anti tank grenades do less damage to infantry?

[sturdy socket]

even more anti vehicle options YAY

[hybrid totem]

didn't we already have anti vehicle grenades... like, since launch

[next sorrel]

you dont get it, these are anti tank grenades in the year 2042 so theyll be op

[sturdy socket]

as if mackay and non support/recon players being able to equip c5 wasn't fucking aids enough

[hybrid totem]

just locked to a specialist

woah, are you insinuating that recon shouldn't get c5?

[sturdy socket]

oops

fixedd

[hybrid totem]

woah, are you insinuating that assault shouldn't get c5?

[sturdy socket]

i'm not insinuating, i'm saying assault shouldn't

[next sorrel]

well recon did steal supports c4

[hybrid totem]

do you want TORs and AAs eternally camping in spawn? because that's how you get it

[sturdy socket]

we already have exactly that

to reiterate

[hybrid totem]

And how do you get rid of them?

[sturdy socket]

one shitty mechanic doesn't excuse another

neither should be there

[hybrid totem]

I dunno about you, but I spawn as Sundance with c5 and take em out

[hybrid totem]

the entire game is one mechanic excusing another

[next sorrel]

sundance with c5..

[sturdy socket]

yeah, almost like it's too easy to just bumrush tanks with c5 now

because what's gonna happen if you fail

[hybrid totem]

I wouldn't say it's easy, but no it's not really difficult

[sturdy socket]

it's the fucking definition of eassy

you have two specialists on assault, one that can wingsuit and one that can grapplehook

parachutes are insanely maneuverable and you can cut/reopen them at any time

[copper ice]

[hybrid totem]

oh god are you saying we should just parachute into the enemy spawn

[sturdy socket]

you are given literally EVERY moment to rush armor with c5 like a bitch because the devs didn't think "hmm, maybe making it this easy would be a bad idea for vehicle players"

all the while they forget that vehicles are meant to be actually strong

it's like one guy put it

[next sorrel]

sounds like this game sucks

[hybrid totem]

I'm a vehicle main, and while I don't like it when sundance c5s me, I don't advocate for their removal

[sturdy socket]

2042 is the wet dream of every loser who exclusively played bf4 infantry and cried about how they can't solo vehicles

[hybrid totem]

I adjust my tactics and kill them next time they do it

But I guess if you only want to play one way, then everything that prevents you from doign that is bad

anyway fuck nightbirds

[sturdy socket]

ah yes I'll suddenly be able to look 90 degrees up to shoot a parachuter who repeatedly attempts to c5 until he gets the kill

[hybrid totem]

parachuters are crazy easy to dodge. Move forward

sundance is harder to dodge

[sturdy socket]

or maybe the other 63 players who can also do the exact same thing when they feel like they want to solo a vehicle

[hybrid totem]

But not impossible, just keep your eyes open and don't fall into tunnel vision

[next sorrel]

no offense but "I adjust my tactics" sounds super cringe

[hybrid totem]

I've rarely found more than one person to try twice

[hybrid totem]

how would you phrase it?

[sturdy socket]

that's because not only is it that, it's also just a re-hashed "get good haha you can shoot the Lis missile just fine"

[hybrid totem]

...

fascinating take

[sturdy socket]

accurate, i know

[hybrid totem]

anyway I'm gonna go play 2042 instead of bitching about it

[sturdy socket]

i'll pass, this game's going downhill by the update

[next sorrel]

in most other available ways

[hybrid totem]

example?

[sturdy socket]

i'm sure you do enjoy it, since you are one of those people who sundance c5 vehicles

[hybrid totem]

Only when they sit in the spawn and camp

[sturdy socket]

and never question how stupidly weak vehicles are against literally anything infantry has

[hybrid totem]

Rarely when they are in the field. Because it's much harder to do

[next sorrel]

"adapt" is a bit less larpy i guess

not the greatest still tho

[hybrid totem]

ok
I adapt and overcome

[arctic grove]

Whats a good gun combo to go with zain

[sturdy socket]

quitting the game

[arctic grove]

im good

[hybrid totem]

love the attitude Goblin.

I've heard good things about the rm68

[next sorrel]

it was always bad

[hybrid totem]

I enjoy the SFAR

[arctic grove]

im geting pretty tired of it, super easy to use lol

[sturdy socket]

unfortunately I always try to see the light at the end of the tunnel, but as it turns out it's just a steaming pile of shit

[arctic grove]

whoever said it was broken wasnt wrong

[hybrid totem]

You could try the SFAR, RPT, or ACWR

[arctic grove]

i have the sfar what attachments do you rock?

[next sorrel]

im on the pessimistic side of realist lol

[hybrid totem]

grenade underbarrel, kobra sight, I think stubby grip and extended barrel

[next onyx]

Just run arcom with the drum mag and the sight you want on the scar.

[hybrid totem]

wait not stubby grip, that's the underbarrel

[sturdy socket]

honestly though, i really, really tried to enjoy this game

[hybrid totem]

Why don't you go find another one?

[sturdy socket]

i had fun moments but it just gets fucked with every season and core issues aren't being addressed

tor spawncampers, c5 being ridiculously easy to use and being literally the prime cope choice to wipe out armor almost effortlessly

lis

[hybrid totem]

so... why don't you go find another game

[sturdy socket]

among other things

[hybrid totem]

Don't tell me it's because as bad as this game is, it's still better than the alternative

[copper ice]

c5 really shouldn't have triple now that anti tank nades exist

[sturdy socket]

nobody's talking to you

[hybrid totem]

Then why don't you talk to me

[next sorrel]

hi

how are you

[sturdy socket]

once again c5 shouldn't have been on assault especially in the first place

[hybrid totem]

Hey Kristopher, I'm doing alright

[next sorrel]

thats great

[hybrid totem]

yep. Fuck nightbirds

[sturdy socket]

exacerbated the issue of people insta-locking mackay and sundance to fly over to vehicles on any part of the map

[copper ice]

i agree with this conceptually

[arctic grove]

sounds like you could use some copium

[next sorrel]

✊

[hybrid totem]

I bet you're the kind of person who disagrees with verticality in this game

[sturdy socket]

great strawman btw

[hybrid totem]

I'm not sure you know what that means...

[sturdy socket]

solid argument, any complaint about shitty balance is copium

[arctic grove]

Mackay and Sundance needs a nerf

[hybrid totem]

what kind of nerf

[copper ice]

flying characters having access to c5 is cunked

[sturdy socket]

do you notice how on 4 it's just that much harder to c4 vehicle players

[arctic grove]

No c5 for assaults. That should be for Engineers

[sturdy socket]

and how if you need to c4 someone, it's almost always a jeep used

[hybrid totem]

and recon. and support.

[arctic grove]

what kind of playstyle is best with him? passive or agres

[arctic grove]

Recon is a pass but support doesnt really need that for its role.

[hybrid totem]

I wouldn't know, I never play passively lol

I'm always pushing objectives and campers

[sturdy socket]

c5 in 2042 compared to 4 has absurd throw range and is allowed on the class that hosts the two specialists with mobility tools that make them able to traverse the map exceptionally well

[arctic grove]

Using LMGs as am Engineer still feels like crap. Recoil is bad.

is the sfar good in close quarters

Not sure how the stupid passive perk is supposed to work.

[hybrid totem]

ehhhh. I also run the shorty shotty

[sturdy socket]

parachutes in 4 also lack the ability to be cut and are far less controllable

parachutes in 2042 may as well be fucking actual wing gliders

that's how they feel

[arctic grove]

im gonna have 3 gls in my loadout lol

[copper ice]

the very least they could do is limit maximum c5

[arctic grove]

Take C4 and mines from them and they’d be better

[hybrid totem]

they do.. to 3

[arctic grove]

So many sundances that take team helis just to go like 500 meters up and then hop out and glide across the map to target 1 tank

[copper ice]

The issue this is that two engineers have fucking dogshit gadgets and require rocket launchers to fill their only free slot

[arctic grove]

Just bullshit balancing

[hybrid totem]

classes were a mistake

[sturdy socket]

REMEMBER WHEN VEHICLES TOOK TEAMWORK TO TAKE DOWN

[arctic grove]

DICE gaslighting

[sturdy socket]

SO DO I

[hybrid totem]

If the game had been built around classes, it would work, but tryign to add them on post mortem is just fucking everything

[copper ice]

You spawn with 3 and 3 is enough to solo any vehicle

[sturdy socket]

i remember NOT being able to consistently solo vehicles because of a fucking wingsuit and grapple hook and wing glider parachutes

[arctic grove]

Yup. Only good engineer is Lis

Opinions are cool but like, classes and gadget balancing used to be so much better than open loadouts

[arctic grove]

Facts

[copper ice]

With the addition of anti tank nades the maximum c5 stack should now be 2

[fervent rose]

what bf game can i not solo tanks in exactly

[arctic grove]

“but muh freedom” good, why do you need it, assaults don’t need snipers lmao

[slow tulip]

BTW mw2 has a lot more players than BF2042

[sturdy socket]

notice how I said consistently

[slow tulip]

Battlefield 2042 players says mw2 sucks

[hybrid totem]

yeah I do remember being able to solo vehicless in bf4

[arctic grove]

You’ve always been able to solo tanks but the difference is it used to take so much more effort

[sturdy socket]

or perhaps I should have used the word effortlessly instead

[arctic grove]

In 2042 it’s hilariously easy

[karmic egret]

Yeah remove C5 off of assualt

[fervent rose]

oh i dont argue that 2042's balance is out of wack

[sturdy socket]

that's putting it lightly

[fervent rose]

but "tanks should require teamwork" is a load of bullshit

engineers used to have 7 rpgs per spawn in bf4 if i recall

[sturdy socket]

with the anti-tank field upgrade, yes

but in that game

[karmic egret]

I doubt the rpg will be any good when it's added in season 5

[sturdy socket]

you had rocket drop

directional damage

[fervent rose]

okay and i also solo'd many tanks in bfv with both support and assault

[copper ice]

The issue with being able to solo tanks in 2042 is that prior to anti tank nades we only had 1 slot that could actually damage tanks, so 3 c5s was required to solo a tank

Specialists unironically broke it

Its a fundamental balance issue

We had no anti tank nade

[sturdy socket]

comparing infantry's ability in 4 to solo tanks to infantry's ability in 2042 to solo tanks is disingenuous

good fucking luck trying to kill a tank as easily as 4

[copper ice]

The only specs who have a main gadget slot that can hurt vehicles are sundance and lis

[sturdy socket]

ESPECIALLY if they're competent

[fervent rose]

it's not "disingenuous" to discuss how engineers are poorly balanced in this game compared to mackay/sundance

not at all actually

[arctic grove]

In BF4 you had 2 simple solo anti tank choices

Sneak up successfully, or c4 Jeep

C4 Jeeps were pretty reasonably countered and BF4 didn’t have grapple hooks or wing suits to make sneaking up on tanks brain dead ez

[sturdy socket]

no, let's get back to how you were talking about engineers being able to carry 7 RPGs in 4

[arctic grove]

Rockets always took teamwork though

[fervent rose]

no, they didnt

[arctic grove]

Or required a tank to already be low hp

[sturdy socket]

because that was a disingenuous comparison

[hybrid totem]

uh, what?

shoot em in the ass. 2 shots

[arctic grove]

Once a tank realizes a player is lobbing rockets at it, they usually don’t have a very long time to live

[hybrid totem]

done

[next sorrel]

i committed a battlefield mortal sin

i jet rammed

[arctic grove]

Therefore either several players used rockets or one guy did and got turned into mist

[sturdy socket]

assuming you don't get flattened by an AP shell or the gunner

[copper ice]

yes but theoretically it worked

[sturdy socket]

and assuming you hit the tank straight on from behind

[fervent rose]

you're acting like the moment you shoot at a tank you are dead, sorry thats just not how older bf games worked

[sturdy socket]

at NO angle

[hybrid totem]

obviously?

[copper ice]

it doesn't theoretically work in 2042

even under ideal conditions you can't solo with rockets alone

[hybrid totem]

it's like some people didn't actually play the older games, eh?

[copper ice]

which is why you have to go to c5

[sturdy socket]

mfw I just APS the second RPG shot and just turn your ass into paste

[arctic grove]

Unless you have the gift of incredible indestructible cover assets, don’t expect to live long enough to solo a tank with rockets if it’s full HP and the player has a brain

[next sorrel]

it is asorta

i mean you could hide but if your one guy that tank will have your ass

sooner or later

[arctic grove]

Hence I said unless the tank was already low HP it generally requires more than 1 player using rockets to kill a tank, this isn’t very complicated

[copper ice]

Its not about whether the tanker counters it practically, it's about whether theoretically under ideal conditions you can solo the tank with those rockets

[sturdy socket]

"hehe, i played the game more than you did, tanks are soooooooooooo easy to solo bro just do it"

[copper ice]

You can't in 2042

[hybrid totem]

hahahaha

[copper ice]

You can in older games

[fervent rose]

but heres the thing. in 2042 you should be able to play engineer and solo vehicles

[sturdy socket]

i'm arguing with a dumbass

[fervent rose]

instead you play sundance/mackay and its easy mode

[copper ice]

^

[hybrid totem]

I thought you weren't talking to me anyway

[arctic grove]

it really depends either way I guess, because nothing changes a tank at 20 HP being killed by a player shooting 1-2 rockets at it

that’s just how the HP is to begin with

[sturdy socket]

your argument was exceptionally stupid

so i felt the need to respond

[hybrid totem]

and that's all it takes to get you to engage?

Get some fortitude

[acoustic seal]

forcing the class system onto already designed characters really fucked things up

[arctic grove]

but 1 player with rockets could never solo a vehicle if it wasn’t already weak

[sturdy socket]

"guys i was only pretending to be stupid to get that guy's attention"

[fervent rose]

"could never" man the avg bf player is not that good

[sturdy socket]

i thought you were playing 2042?

[hybrid totem]

Not at all, if I'm acting stupid you'll know it

[sturdy socket]

or are you sitting in the respawn screen the whole time

[sturdy socket]

don't I already, bro. don't I already.

[hybrid totem]

Apparently not

[arctic grove]

I’m confused if this is a dig at me or at other players

[sturdy socket]

infantry players i stg

[copper ice]

look at it like this; if the tank player is afk can you solo it with rockets
in old bf games yes
in new bf games no

[fervent rose]

it has nothing to do with you, why would you take it that way

[copper ice]

bfv mitigated this with giving assault dynamite and AT nades

2042 gives you fucking nothing

so they gave c5 a 3 stack on spawn so you can solo vehicles

[fervent rose]

i have no idea if you're an avg bf player, but i do know avg bf players hopping in a tank are easy pickings in any bf title

[arctic grove]

Fair enough, and don’t worry I didn’t take it personally, it was just a general question since I was confused

[copper ice]

creating a horrible instakill at close range with high mobility specs, but its a fundamental design flaw that comes from the top down with specialists existing

the m5 recoilless cannot solo a tank in 2042

[sturdy socket]

although it would be fair to point out its insane velocity

[copper ice]

boris and crawford have no realistic way of finishing a tank off once theyre out of rockeys

[sturdy socket]

that it should not have

basically a copypaste at4

[copper ice]

Buffing its velocity instead of its damage or its ammo capacity was fucking stupid

Dice design

[void gorge]

Sometimes when I leave a game and automatically go to the lobby, the game just won't load and I'm on a dark screen and then I have to restart the game, how else does that happen? any predictions to fix this likely annoying bug

[copper ice]

This is why the rockets are shit

[fervent rose]

yes this is also part of the broken game design

[copper ice]

The vehicles are balanced around 128p

[sturdy socket]

duh, same studio that thought the tor tank was a good idea

[copper ice]

So its 128p and specialists both making design issues

[fervent rose]

128 player balance is hilariously bad

[acoustic seal]

i think it was meant to be a stopgap for anti-air being shit, but that would imply they were thinking at all

[copper ice]

The game is fundamentally shit from the bottom up

There's no way to fix it

[arctic grove]

Yeah rockets usually have lower velocities and shorter ranges in bf, they basically did the opposite for 2042 cause just how large maps are and stuff like that

[fervent rose]

i think vfc is right that the m5 velocity is mostly for air targets

rpg better have more ammo and is slightly harder to use

[copper ice]

I think they did it to deal with camping tanks

They claimed engies could take out vehicles at any range when they were describing classes

[calm bison]

Finally got PKP T1

[copper ice]

Which is obviously not true

[sturdy socket]

waiting on warsaw revamped tbh

[copper ice]

But the velocity buff was their reasoning behind being able to shoot them at tanks miles away on the maps designed for 128p

If they gave a shit about aircraft they would have nerfed flares

The lis buff was their answer to aircraft, which they immediately reverted because aircraft users got mad

[sturdy socket]

lis shouldn't have been there in the first place

soflam should have been given its proper due buff

[copper ice]

To balance the game at this point would require reworking half of the game all at the same time because things are so poorly designed around interacting with each other

[arctic grove]

It was just stupid to begin with, 600 meters range + decent control in boost mode

You could catch up to condors in jet mode

[calm bison]

Opinion - Javelin on a painted target should go through flares like BF4

[copper ice]

It definitely wasn't a good decision but it showcases how they have no fucking idea what they're doing with the balance in this game

[karmic egret]

That's good imo

[sturdy socket]

based as fuck

@safe bramble come look at this take

a good take on soflam

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah for sure, I’m just generally commenting on the Lis buffs looking back at them since I forgot they had the audacity to pull that

[karmic egret]

Is that only with the tracer dart?

[copper ice]

They rolled that back SO fucking fast

[calm bison]

A painted target is anything that has a lock on symbol on it

[karmic egret]

Fair

But we got aa cannons now

[fervent rose]

it was a wild buff that wasnt needed, like the paik season 2 thing

[karmic egret]

Imagine they buff Mackay

[calm bison]

I gotta be honest

[copper ice]

Dice is good at buffing things that dont need it

[calm bison]

They ruined Dozer’s mastery requirements

Instead of incentivizing players to think and use his shield

[karmic egret]

1 step forward 10 steps back

[copper ice]

Look at the g57

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah the paik buff lol

Like why

[calm bison]

We have to get CQB kills

[arctic grove]

Then again legal wall hacks from the beginning was dumb and led to deaths that are just wrong principally

[karmic egret]

We need better melee mechanics

[arctic grove]

thx dice

[fervent rose]

throw smoke and press hero ability to shoot everyone through the smoke without any effort required

[copper ice]

Legal wall hacks can be great when the game is done well

[fervent rose]

paik was very funny

[copper ice]

Paik is not done well

[calm bison]

Paik was worse on launch than now IMO

[karmic egret]

Basically a buffed version of pathfinder from apex

[copper ice]

Blacklight retribution did the best legal wallhax I've ever seen

[karmic egret]

Tbh i wouldn't have minded specialists if we also had the ability to play as regular soldiers

[copper ice]

Pulse knife from tf2 was kind of neat also

[karmic egret]

Pulse from siege

Pretty balanced imo

[copper ice]

Paik is just solo destructor

[karmic egret]

Oh I remember people using paik and the saiga shotgun pre nerf. Good god

[arctic grove]

Some sweats still use her and it makes me want to delete the game

Then again season 5 content isn’t the best and my y1 pass obviously expired so I have no obligations to play

[safe bramble]

This entire game literally encourages going solo lmao

[copper ice]

It worked in backlight because everyone could do it, it worked in titanfall because mobility is huge and you gave up other things for it

[arctic grove]

I am free

[karmic egret]

Absolutely unstoppable

[copper ice]

It doesn't work in battlefield

[vague horizon]

Sweats who use paik with the 12m auto

[arctic grove]

…

[karmic egret]

The saiga is nowhere near as powerful as it was

[arctic grove]

It’s still weird because it’s pretty hard to keep it semi relevant without making it kinda busted

[fervent rose]

thats true but its still bogus compared to the other ones

[arctic grove]

Cause obviously 2042 isn’t for shotguns

[karmic egret]

Funny thing is they nerfed all the shotguns just to nerf the saiga making the pump shotgun unusable

[fervent rose]

they buffed the masterkey and nerfed the pump

odd choice

[copper ice]

I have no idea why they adhust all the shotguns at the same time

Probably some dogshit programming where they share values

[karmic egret]

They should have reduced the pellet damage on the saiga

To 20

[copper ice]

Either the programming sucks or they are unbelievably bad at balance

Both options are not good

Pump is insanely bad and they have no intention of buffing it

Boris is insanely bad and they have no intention of buffing him

[safe bramble]

Tor is insanely good and they have intentions of "not shifting the problem"

[copper ice]

They nerf irish in the least effective way possible at dealing with his issues

[wide shore]

Least there’ll be less people camping in tanks behind aps

But, now his Aps is gonna be mostly useless

Right on the cusp of new grenades being added

[copper ice]

I doubt it, they nerfed it to be shit with infantry but not for tanks

[safe bramble]

People are still going to do that as tanking in a way other then being a pussy will get you laid out

[copper ice]

You can still place two APS

[wide shore]

Well, I’m just gonna keep huffing hopium in the corner

[fervent rose]

we still havent seen if you can stack 2 in one spot to mostly have no cooldown

[safe bramble]

Hopium lmfao

[wide shore]

And we probably won’t until it’s out

Then It’ll be too late

[fervent rose]

and im pretty sure you can just set the 2nd one down while the other one is in denial mode to do that too

[arctic grove]

Why do you think Boris is bad? Just wanna know

[copper ice]

https://twitter.com/ArmoredKill/status/1661293202559606784

[kindred flint]

AI turret basically useless?

[wide shore]

The turret is useless

[fervent rose]

the turret is useless and his passive is useless

[copper ice]

They have intention of nerfing tor but they literally don't know how to do it because its fundamentally broken

[safe bramble]

yup i made the joke from there lmao

[copper ice]

Admitted by devs themselves

[fervent rose]

he is one of two specialists that can use the m5 recoilless and both of those choices suck

[arctic grove]

Oh ok I don’t play him often just wondering

Normally I’m liz

[safe bramble]

it's like dice wants to add so many explosives that the only valid way of tanking is TOR camping

legit

[wide shore]

It’s garbage against infantry. It’s got pitiful health. And barely does ANY damage to vehicles despite them making it target them more often than infantry.

[kindred flint]

just give boris an anti ground vehicle throwable

[wide shore]

I have literally only ever used the armor for an achievement. Otherwise I would’ve never done it.

It’s stupid and shouldn’t even exist anyway

[kindred flint]

the armor plates?

such a stupid idea in a game thats not a br

the angel ammo pouches giving armor was hilarious balance though

[safe bramble]

alot of things in this game was a stupid idea

[kindred flint]

gg dice..glad you thought that through

[wide shore]

There is no good reason to ever use it over anything else

[safe bramble]

whenever i think dice is going to make a competent change, i remind myself that the TOR still exist

[kindred flint]

selfish dps that sucks?

[wide shore]

I suppose

[kindred flint]

"hurr with this extra 20 hp ill win fights"

gets bodied anyways by my lmg

[wide shore]

I don’t really play assault much.

Almost never really

I’m a support or engineer guy

[fervent rose]

theres certainly no good reason to run it over sph

[copper ice]

Everyone else already said but yeah boris turret is complete garbage and his passive is focused entirely on his turret

[wide shore]

Or C5

[fervent rose]

sph is such a silly free kill generator

[wide shore]

I wish Boris’ passive was like, increased accuracy with rocket launcher without ADS or something

[kindred flint]

i was just using that on zain

[arctic grove]

Yep

[wide shore]

Like anything that would make him an enticing engineer

[kindred flint]

someone on a crawford turret was around a corner...2 into the turret, killed the guy and another behind him

[fervent rose]

ive said it before, he should be the Launcher Specialist and get bonus ammo

clear anti tank boris, clear defensive crawford

[wide shore]

Like Lis has the vehicle paint trait, Crawford has the speed vehicle heal. He should have a launcher perk

[safe bramble]

because tanks need more reasons to not exist

yes

[kindred flint]

that makes too much sense for dice to do

[wide shore]

He’s an engineer that doesn’t even feel like one

[copper ice]

lis is AA engie, crawford is defence/repair engie, boris should be AT engie

[kindred flint]

theres more than enough rounds where tanks feel like they never die in my experience

[fervent rose]

a crazy idea here, they make the tanks less like immobile death traps, while also making engineers have more fun options to destroy them

[kindred flint]

i guess i have to play a healer + res bot + killing machine + anti tank the entire match

[wide shore]

Quicker fire. Idk

[fervent rose]

m5's only inaccurate in hipfire anyway

[wide shore]

The M5 sometimes shoots off target while hipfiring.

[fervent rose]

boris being able to hipfire it perfectly would be kinda legit

[wide shore]

That’s what I’m sayin

[fervent rose]

but also obnoxious unless they nerfed the infantry splash

so they cant

[copper ice]

Give boris more launcher ammo or faster reloads as a passive, change turret to only aim for vehicles and give it high short range damage but bad at long range

[wide shore]

Well if the RPG is like how it is in portal it’s gonna be wild.

I’ve had it happen many times

I’ve had it miss when it was close even.

[fervent rose]

yea it has very random hipfire dispersion

[copper ice]

Since boris cant use c5 or AT mines, change his turret to act superficially in the role of either of them

[hardy viper]

Boris turret just shooting down jets at mach 6

[fervent rose]

it is still very funny how you can get Lis with c5 and infinite launcher ammo vs boris with 3 shots

[copper ice]

No lis is already AA

[wide shore]

I mean, it is. It just does like 1 damage barely

[copper ice]

His turret is so bad it doesnt count right now

Has the dps of liberator with AP rounds

[wide shore]

Honestly, true

You could spit on a tank and do more damage

[kindred flint]

the only time you die to a turret is if you are low hp and being shot at by multiple enemies

[wide shore]

I die 10x more to the fucking dogs

[fervent rose]

having an ai turret in the game at all was another specialist mistake

[fresh lintel]

I feel like giving the turret any actual damage to anything bigger than a CAV brawler might be a mistake given how often you see turrets

[copper ice]

The turret is stupid as fuck but right now it needs to function in the role of c4/AT mine

Gimp its range massively but have it output up close

[fervent rose]

it could also just do more dps over time for repeated shots on target for vehicles

[fresh lintel]

I can see situations where turrets are hidden behind walls and then you get fucking gibbed

[wide shore]

You see them often cause Boris is like the default engineer choice if you wanna use a launcher. Even if technically Crawford makes more sense to pick.

[fervent rose]

the tickling damage isnt enough for anyone to worry about

[fresh lintel]

That and people for some reason love the idea of a gadget that plays for you

[kindred flint]

i died to a ranger for the first time in forever

low hp...couldnt LoS it, sadge

[copper ice]

Thats the same as an AT mine right now
i know it sucks in some scenarios but the turret needs to replace c5/mine when it takes their slot

[wide shore]

I can’t tell you when the last time my turret killed somebody.

[fervent rose]

they were huffing the team fortress 2 nostalgia a bit too much

im just glad theres no fucking invis cloak

[fresh lintel]

At least no one runs AT mines

[wide shore]

Shit Sundance may as well be invisible most of the time

[copper ice]

There is no world where you pick c5 or mine over rocket launcher right now

No one runs AT mines because they can't

[wide shore]

They show up behind you like they’ve been stalking you for hours.

[fresh lintel]

I run AT because no one expects it uwu

[copper ice]

The only spec who can reasonably run mines is Lis

Its a waste on boris or crawford

So their gadget has to replace the role

[wide shore]

There’s no chokepoints

[copper ice]

It doesn't for crawford and it never will

[wide shore]

No obvious routes. Tanks don’t move anyway

[fervent rose]

mines are very effective since their size change

[copper ice]

So they have to change boris tureet

[fervent rose]

but most tankers are taking so much chip damage they dont move up. and they cannot dare get 25m from a mackay

[wide shore]

Yeah imma be honest. They should not allow MacKay to grapple tanks

[fervent rose]

its been nerfed in a couple ways at least, but ye

[copper ice]

c5 needs to not have 3 stacks

[fresh lintel]

I even run it on Boris but I rarely play him and I feel like a cunt when I nail someones head with the M5 lmao

[wide shore]

There’s just no scenario where that feels fair to a tanker

[fervent rose]

i will say that i kill far more mackays than die to them, by a huge margin

but most people are too scared to hop out

and it was a lot more painful with the original mackay distance

30m grapple range with c5

[kindred flint]

mackay still needs a hard range nerf on that grapple 😔

[copper ice]

Now AT nade exists they gotta drop the 3 stack of c5

but they're not going to

it fucking sucks that you can brainstorm ways to balance in here in 20 mins

and they get paid to spend a year going uhhhhhhh idk man

[fervent rose]

nearly 2 years to take the explosive spamming jeeps out of the game

[hushed plinth]

*add

[dapper river]

back in my day we hand-delivered explosives to the enemy in jeeps, right on the hood

[vale tusk]

Whats up everyone?! I hope everyone is having a wonderful night tonight.

Try to reboot your system

Thats weird.

[somber trail]

anyone know why deathmatch say limited time only?

will it be gone for good or something?

[vale tusk]

Maybe shit is changing next season. But idk

I hope you seek the answers you're looking for

[somber trail]

thanks

[vale tusk]

Of course my friend

[quiet shell]

MP-28 gets no love even though it still slaps

It's only downside is it's slightly longer draw time

[kindred flint]

and that longer first mag reload

[neon igloo]

@pastel dust check ur dms

[odd yew]

[fervent rose]

it has said that for a long time now

[copper ice]

have to spam click

i hate spam clicking

glock just works

[sharp marten]

Good lord 6 days in Fallujah is releasing LETS GO

[errant scarab]

when will the pc and console version come out

[mighty holly]

!!when will it come out

[tender pendant]

Soon™

[karmic egret]

Delete system 32

[errant scarab]

When

[errant scarab]

U cant delete that

[mighty holly]

Like zeppelin says soon

[edgy oriole]

looks like army version of ready or not

and i cant wait to do the exact same thing i do in ready or not

[mighty holly]

_ _

[arctic grove]

It’s because the Glock has burst fire and can 1 tap, plus superior handling and hipfire

Almost no real reason to use it unless you like how it looks

[acoustic seal]

glock and super 500: can randomly one shot people
m44: can one shot people but has awful soft stats/requires aim
the rest of them: cannot one shot people

this is the definitive pistol tier list

[arctic grove]

Anyone excited for Zavod 2.0???

[acoustic seal]

zavod with 128 people shooting you from 128 meters away, oh joy

and infantry breakthrough is gone from the game wooo yeah live service

[next sorrel]

glock can 1 shot?

[acoustic seal]

one burst/one click

[next sorrel]

ah

[acoustic seal]

who made the rao passive work in vehicles? i just want to talk to them

[arctic grove]

does someone know or remember how much bf coins the bp was with tier skip? 2100?

[fervent rose]

the rex also one taps but god the irons are terrible

[arctic grove]

At least we got Infantry CQ

[trail blaze]

I haven't bought the S4 BP but I can purchase one with 4 rewards unlocked instantly for 1000, and the one that unlocks 20 tiers of rewards is on sale for 40% off at 2400, original price is 4000.

[arctic grove]

thanks!

[safe bramble]

ready for grapple + ap grenade + sph launcher + c5 + at grenade?

[lone imp]

c5

[sour meadow]

Why no new vehicles in season 5?

[dusk falcon]

i think the at grenade will only be avaiable for engineers

sunce crawford uses it in the trailer

and hes an engineer

[dusk falcon]

maybe because of the vehicle reworks or dice just forgor

[sour meadow]

oh right

when's the vehicl rework coming?

[chilly jacinth]

Season 5

[sour meadow]

yea but is it 5.0 or 5.1 or 2 or what

[chilly jacinth]

Yes

[fiery dawn]

Yes

[sour meadow]

no snacks for you

[woven acorn]

Do you think they'll ever actually bring out more portal content

Felt kinda abandoned

[sour meadow]

doubt it at this point

[wooden briar]

So my I cant find any games on pc

Cross play on

[sour meadow]

region?

[wooden briar]

Europe

[sour meadow]

should be finding games then

[wooden briar]

I get an error after a minute

[sour meadow]

maybe check firewall settings?

[woven acorn]

Also check your game to see if it needs repairing

[sour meadow]

also update gpu drivers

[wooden briar]

All's well

New drivers

I can play every other online game

[sour meadow]

it's always 2042, man

[arctic grove]

I bought the Elite Upgrade, where's the Liz Epic Skin?

😠

[karmic egret]

wanna bet

[upbeat sand]

It's rao isn't it

[arctic grove]

on the cover it shows some Liz Legendary (?) or Epic Skin, but I didn't get it.

[inner roost]

Elite edition doesn't include the tier 100 skins from the old BPs

[arctic grove]

oh okay..

[upbeat sand]

Elite edition includes, the 4 seasonal specialists, season weapon unlocked (i think), and a lost world rao bundle

[arctic grove]

yikes, I only bought it cuz I wanted to have the Liz Legendary Skin from S1 or 2

[inner roost]

dang u got played lol

refund if u still can

[arctic grove]

nah I finally got the Vehicles unlocked I never play anyways so I got everything

if I read it correctly they'll have a Liz Legendary Skin is S5?

[upbeat sand]

Check the website

The battlepass part

IMO could of just got one from the store

[arctic grove]

I guess it's a yes

[vast citrus]

Battlefield is kinda p2w

[karmic egret]

wot

[vast citrus]

Pay to win

[karmic egret]

yeah how?

[vast citrus]

When you buy battle pass

[karmic egret]

i already know what p2w means

[vast citrus]

I though you dont know

[karmic egret]

how tf did you come too that conclusion

[vast citrus]

If you buy battle pass you get xp booster

Then you can faster unlock weapons

[karmic egret]

thats not pay to win

[vast citrus]

For me kinda

[karmic egret]

its not

[vast citrus]

Even a little?

[karmic egret]

nope

[vast citrus]

Its p2w for me

[karmic egret]

well your idea of p2w is wrong

[vast citrus]

Nope

[remote kiln]

you know double xp runs literally every other week at this point right?

[vast citrus]

Yes?

[remote kiln]

and that's for people who don't have the battle pass?

[vast citrus]

But if you buy battle pass early

[karmic egret]

either way pay to win means you pay to get an advantage xp boosters do not give you any sort of tactical or strategic value at all

[remote kiln]

maybe by a whole 2 days lol

don't act like it's difficult to do the battle pass

[vast citrus]

Its only me opinion

[livid swift]

Bro you can unlock most relevant weapons in less than a week of playing :))

It's not p2w at all. P2w would be if said content was only obtainable with money or required very long grinding, which is not the case.

You jump in one of those rush xl playlists and get eveything unlocked in no time

[karmic egret]

your opinion is wrong

[livid swift]

Attachments take a bit longer, but you can't buy em with money

[vast citrus]

My opinion is my opinion

[silent snow]

it all comes down to this, regardless of the opinion lol

[jovial jay]

wdym pay 2 win in a full priced game

that'd cause riot lmao

[inner roost]

P2W would be paying to get an otherwise unobtainable advantage over other players