#battlefield-2042

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granite island
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On kaleidoscope

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Forgot to mention the map

upbeat sand
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I wanna see what trailers look like before 2WEI adds the music

fickle wharf
granite island
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Yes

fickle wharf
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All sectors have 2 mcoms

granite island
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There is only 1 sector

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My bad

wooden briar
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Pc

arctic grove
upbeat sand
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Do you have Crossplay

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On

wooden briar
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I did

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But who knows if they changed ig

upbeat sand
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Maybe it randomly turned off

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Try checkin

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Happened to me 1 time

wooden briar
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Ok

pearl ridge
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Every time I get a total blowout match, it’s one of those stupid portal maps

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Also why the fuck does that hill south of Arica B on the Russian side attract Americans like ants

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It’s not even their side of the map but they cluster on it no matter if they actually own B or not.

robust vapor
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It do be like that sometimes

pearl ridge
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Is it just me or is flashpoint getting worse

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Five minutes in and the entire map is red

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Did they fucking fire all the guys who knew how to make a balanced map when they cancelled V

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Fuck flashpoint. Ugly, unbalanced, unfun

hushed plinth
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It’s been like this since i ever played

pearl ridge
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God fuck this map, I just peeked out of cover and there was five sniper glints

gloomy otter
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well

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can't change my mind

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season 3 had the best lobby music

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and all

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like its so subtle and good

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i hope season 5 can surpass it

pearl ridge
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I have a pretty consistent hatred for this game’s ‘soundtrack’, which I am saying with the biggest air quotes possible.

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This isn’t music. There’s only one playing for months on end and it’s generic, boring, and indistinguishable from the menu of a C grade fps from 2007

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1 and V had god-tier music and actually changed things up

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Jesus Christ 4 has better music than this

granite island
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I now know how to use tugs efficiently

visual gazelle
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At least Escalation's music has some semblance of a leitmotif that can be remembered.

vast citrus
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Loading music is cool but bad at the same time in this season

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If you hear it to much is annoying

visual gazelle
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DICE really should just cycle through every season's tracks.

pine roost
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Most of it just comes down to 1 and v setting expectations so high for the style of music

granite island
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Bf1 and V only fits in their game

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Anywhere else doesn't feel right

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Thst was a nice match

upbeat sand
granite island
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Longest I've ever survived being in a jet without dying by a tor

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A Lil bird killed me exactly when the match ended

upbeat sand
pine roost
sharp marten
arctic grove
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r

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hate flashpoint breakthrough as well

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your always just getting popped

visual gazelle
mental delta
visual gazelle
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That's an "wElL aKsHuAlLy" internet response if I've ever seen one, lol.

mental delta
mental delta
visual gazelle
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And even if electronic music was what DICE wanted for 2042, it's certainly possible to make the music sound as good as Battlefield 1's and V's. Like most recently I really love 13 Sentinels' soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYHT2BMRQQ

pine roost
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I do like that sort of modern ambience music. Mgsv, rain world, subnautica below zero and bf4 all do it well. Its just that it lacks the ‘energy’ that the orchestral tracks have

mental delta
ebon pilot
arctic grove
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music is just nails on a chalkboard

hushed plinth
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the trailer music for this season is a banger tho

arctic grove
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and it was done by the same dude who worked on the candy man reboot

pine roost
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Some of the songs are okay

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But even the bf4 loading themes had a bit more cohesion and buildup

lament sentinel
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Battlefield

spice lichen
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Good morning all, I have a quick question. I have searched online for the answer and haven't found a solution. I'm having issues with my mic while playing. No one seems to hear me in the squad when I'm talking. I also very very rarely hear any one else either. Is this an issue with the game itself because my mic works in other games and in discord. Its driving me nuts...How the heck do you play an competitive FPS well, without being able to communicate with your team? Also, it seems THX doesn't work for BF2042 despite it being an approved game on Razers THX webpage. Anyone else have these issues? Thank you

carmine rover
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do u have push to talk disabled?

spice lichen
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I've tried enabled and disabled

pine roost
spice lichen
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Also, two different Razer headsets

pine roost
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Try and get a friend to join and see if they can hear your voice

spice lichen
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I don't have any friends that play the game...lol

arctic grove
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i have no idea why they haven't changed or at least make movement improvements from bfv

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game feels like a watered down version of call of duty sometimes

visual gazelle
carmine rover
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hm theres mic settings in under audio

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u can try messing with that

random breach
spice lichen
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Yeah I have. I have also tested THX by turning it off and on and the sound stays the same.

arctic grove
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I dont even use mic on battlefield

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I should

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how does that even work

spice lichen
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Also, I don't see how folks play the game in a squad and not communicate with their team...

pine roost
carmine rover
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team doesnt listen anyway

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lol

arctic grove
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I have such a nice mic i never use

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I should start using it

mental delta
spice lichen
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I'm liking the game for what it is so far, but it's getting boring playing by myself..lol

carmine rover
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i would try to help you but i dont play pc ):

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and u can find frens to play with here!!

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;D

pine roost
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Teamplay In this game, and battlefield as a whole, boils down to accidentally helping teammates by your own desire to survive. Very few people have the gamesense to understand how to play with the intent of supporting people beyond the simple ammo and health drops

visual gazelle
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Me before we, unfortunately.

spice lichen
pine roost
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When I play I have that intrinsic satisfaction that comes from helping people out

carmine rover
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music plays while running around? if so i never noticed it

carmine rover
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i know theres radios but they have a really small radius

spice lichen
robust vapor
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It all comes down to the performance of your members in the squad

mental delta
pine roost
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While never being enough to make it hard to track people

robust vapor
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Certain background soundtracks fit in the game

mental delta
carmine rover
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be like me and dont play audio at all and just jam out to spotify

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while the game is mute

pine roost
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I sometimes put the game audio on a Bluetooth speaker so I don’t have to put on headphones that get warm after a while

arctic grove
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sometimes i pop off while singing

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sometimes i turn it off to focus

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really depends

carmine rover
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they need to nerf Slayer
i always go crazy listening to reign in blood album

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its like an automatic 40+ kill each game

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i dont even be noticing i be popping off

spice lichen
arctic grove
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Also

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I found out that

pine roost
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I just listen to ambient music and game soundtracks. There aren’t many lyrical artists I listen to on the regular

arctic grove
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turning off controller vibrations

pine roost
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I listen to Willie Nelson most of the time :|

arctic grove
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I listen to my playlists mostly consisting of indie rock and indie pop

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controller vibrations just get in the way and are annoying

carmine rover
spice lichen
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I'm still getting my feet wet with BF2042. I haven't played very much FPS in a few years. SO I'm not that great, I think my highest kill count was 24 but I'm averaging like maybe 10 a game so far.

spice lichen
pine roost
carmine rover
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i know lol

arctic grove
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pop off session can go up to 50-60

carmine rover
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its very difficult when every other play in the lobby is running Mackay RM68

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and the helicopter pilots farming everyone

spice lichen
pine roost
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Fair dos

arctic grove
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THEY CAN GO GET BANNEd

pine roost
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Question is, do you play meta or whatever the heck you want

arctic grove
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i refuse to play rm68

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until it gets nerfed

spice lichen
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I don't follow trends. I play with what feels good.

pine roost
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Good good

spice lichen
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Incidentally I am using the RM68 with dozer..lol

scarlet shard
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Any officially messages about Season 6 or Year 2?

spice lichen
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I just like how it feels so far is all. I didn't know it was meta or whatever.

carmine rover
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they said we will get more content

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the rm68 is kind of the meta but in 7 days it will get nerfed

pine roost
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Often times guns that are meta are the ones that feel good

carmine rover
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what gamemode do you play?

mental delta
scarlet shard
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Damn

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Still thanks to you

arctic grove
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Currently I love using the PP 29, NTW, and Am40

scarlet shard
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These 3 weapons are great

spice lichen
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I have mostly been playing conquest and breakthrough

arctic grove
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should be easy

spice lichen
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I just got med pen t1

arctic grove
scarlet shard
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Med pen Tier 1 is the most easy one

subtle sonnet
arctic grove
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but i played support and recon for a really long time

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so i didnt play assault much

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im on med pen T2 rn

pine roost
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Honestly playing falck basically gives you the benefits of assault with infinite sustain

spice lichen
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I honestly alternate through all of the classes. Depends on whats going on and how the game is going/what map I am on.

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So far Dozer feels the best for me.

robust vapor
scarlet shard
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In addition to the tier 1 of the season, medical pen tier 1 is the most easy to do

spice lichen
spice lichen
carmine rover
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dozer so satisfying when u bash someone

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bash streaks are the best

robust vapor
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He's getting a buff iirc

pine roost
spice lichen
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I use RM68, the shotgun secondary, HE launcher and flashbang so far.

topaz breach
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would anyone like to join up on 2042?

arctic grove
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He's getting a buff

pine roost
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I’m definitely most excited for the upcoming vehicle rework. That tops the new guns and map easily. It might be enough to really change how the game feels

arctic grove
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I play mainly dozer and blasco

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mainly dozer now

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I have blasco T1

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that was torture

vast citrus
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My mains is mackay, falck, caspier, Borys and lis

arctic grove
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all you need to do tho is get a good match of breakthrough

dapper river
visual gazelle
pine roost
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It’s been an issue since launch so them addressing it the update before the support could be dropped is typical. But at least it’s been changed

spice lichen
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Its been a struggle deciding if I want to use plates or the launcher with dozer and I think I like the launcher more because I has come in real handy in certain situations.

pine roost
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The sph?

spice lichen
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I was really disappointed when I saw the graphics of BF2042. It looks too much like COD and I really don't like COD too much. BF was unique and had the best maps and the best gameplay/modes.

spice lichen
pine roost
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It’s hard to go for realistic graphics and not look like other games with realistic graphics though

arctic grove
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I like using plates

pine roost
spice lichen
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It looks like plastic assets at times.

arctic grove
pine roost
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From the sounds of things the sheer map sizes meant they had to drastically cut down on asset quality to actually allow them to be that size

chilly jacinth
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I play on ultra and it doesn't look plastic to me

spice lichen
pine roost
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But even then it doesn’t look too bad

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The texturing and lighting of vehicles, mud, rocks, explosives and such are great

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And the particle effects have taken a huge step up

arctic grove
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I think bf2042 looks fine

pine roost
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But then again I don’t play cod so I couldn’t necessarily compare them :/

spice lichen
pine roost
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Art direction, that’s the key thing here

arctic grove
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Bf1 has those things falling from the sky and the haze and stuff

pine roost
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A game can have poor textures and shadow quality but still look epic if that is utilised well

arctic grove
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idk i didnt play bf1 much

pine roost
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Which is why bf1, which by today’s standards has pretty mediocre mesh quality, texture detail, lighting and shadows, but the usage of colour, foliage, volumetrics and background details elevated it to a much higher level

spice lichen
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From what I read, the reason BF1 and V looked so good was because of the tech they were using for battlefront 2, the team working on BF1 and V was able to utilize it. We're talking about 3d scans of actual places and, structures, foilage and rocks etc.

pine roost
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Photogrammetry it’s called. While I don’t believe it’s been confirmed anywhere, it’s been assumed that it wasn’t used in 2042 to the same degree as 1 or v

carmine rover
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the javelin is so fun

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the lock on is very finicky

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though

spice lichen
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I'll see if I can find the article I read. I also watched a video where someone did a comparison of BF3 and BF4 using ultra graphics and some tweaks here and there and comparing it to BF2042 and the graphics were pretty close and those two games are at least a decade old.

pine roost
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There are things about bf4 and 3 that look good today, but I’d still say 2042 does have some really good graphical improvements

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It’s just that they can’t really shine when you are fighting on a flat plane on a long straight road called kaleidoscope

granite island
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Was thinking about getting 2042 platinum

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Until it said win 25 hazard zone matches

pine roost
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What does that mean

spice lichen
vestal forge
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Who here loves Enders

pine roost
spice lichen
granite island
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Only 7 days left

pine roost
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You could be given da Vinci’s brush set but if you don’t know how to utilise the tools at hand you won’t be able to make a masterpiece off the bat

broken horizon
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hope they buff boris

pine roost
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I hope not

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But that’s just my undying hatred for all forms of auto aiming turrets

granite island
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Simply pollute the air a bit with more smoke columns and bam it looks betterCursedCat

spice lichen
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I was just a little disappointed as BF has been my fav since BFBC2. That game sucked me in and made me a fan, and I have loved every other game since. I really expected something like BF3 and 4. The atmosphere was so great and immersive.

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Actually since BFBC on xbox 360..lol

pine roost
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I’d take solid gameplay over immersion any day, so the artistic direction didn’t really bother me too much

spice lichen
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I'm still having a lot of fun though and really enjoying portal as well. I like playing on the old maps. Brings back memories...

pine roost
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My first bf was 4 so I don’t have any nostalgia for these maps

granite island
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My first was hardline

spice lichen
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Hardline was shite...lol

granite island
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Then 4, then 5, then 1 then 2042

pine roost
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I skipped it but still enjoyed watching it

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What was painful was having an awful pc so I couldn’t even play v if I wanted to

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My mates were all enjoying it while I just had to watch Sadge

spice lichen
granite island
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All I got was pacific maps, I rarely got a normal map

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Green everywhere

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The foliage is denser than orbital foliage

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Somehow

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And then green skins

spice lichen
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One of my fav DLCs was the vietnam DLC for BFBC2. It was so fun to run around in the jungle murdering folks...lol

pine roost
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I can’t see the appeal in playing a game or dlc where all the conflicts happen in the jungle

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Jungle maps are instant skips

spice lichen
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I like it because I can play as a sniper. I just like the ability to hide or sneak up on folks and slit their throats or snipe them from 1000ft across the map with the 50 cal...lol

granite island
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I would rather play a snow map than a jungle map

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Which is why reclaimed

spice lichen
granite island
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Looks perfect for me

arctic grove
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I wonder if Loadout change to the AH would just be changing it to the Portal heli 🤔

pine roost
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I just dislike the number of hiding places there are in jungles

granite island
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All mountain maps in bf are bad

carmine rover
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hardline is the greatest bf game

arctic grove
spice lichen
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Better than 64-128 players running around like drunk ants all out in the open...lol

spice lichen
pine roost
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That’s the thing really, I’m very much an advocate for fair fights. If I fight someone I’d rather it be the result of an actual conflict between us where I beat them through mechanical skill and strategy rather than just being in a bush and taking them out that way

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That’s entirely a playstyle thing though

mellow rock
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What class do you generally run?

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Just seeing who plays what

spice lichen
carmine rover
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i will die defending it

spice lichen
pine roost
spice lichen
carmine rover
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blasphemy

spice lichen
pine roost
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Well bf is also close combat run and gun

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Just not quite so close most of the time

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But you do you

spice lichen
# carmine rover blasphemy

You can look at the reviews online. I promise there is probably like 5 people that like that game and that includes you...LMAO

pine roost
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Many people here do enjoy hardline actually. I know Way does

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I can’t judge since I never played it myself but the gameplay seems good enough

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Most of the criticisms seem to come from the fact that it’s not military themed, which I understand. I wasn’t a fan of the police thing either

spice lichen
pine roost
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Indeed

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Cod definitely plays different, but it doesn’t mean bf is completely void of any run and gun

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That’s one thing I do like about bf. The numerous different ways to play

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Appeals to many different audiences which means every game is fresh

spice lichen
pine roost
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Overall cod’s game design seems to contradict itself to the point where I can’t understand where they are going with it

pine roost
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Definitely seems that way

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But when you make a new game every year you’re bound to slip up

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There just isn’t enough time to feasibly take in feedback and actually apply it

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As if they’d actually budge from what their plans are for future games anyway

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Apparently they are releasing a new game this year dispite saying they’d take a year off. There is no chance this new title will be able to incorporate player feedback. If it’s been made in a year then it will be of poor quality, if it has been in development for several then the fundemental systems and mechanics would have been in place for so long that feedback is beyond any use

spice lichen
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I can't play warzone, its just not fun. Too many sweaty try hards. I do enjoy DMZ thought.

pine roost
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Dmz is a decent shot at the extraction game mode I’ll give them that

next onyx
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FLORP.

spice lichen
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I just read recently that COD 6 or whatever they are going to call it wont release until 2024 some time

tardy tree
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warzone blows asshole

pine roost
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Hello florp

misty briar
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I just thought for a sec im in a cod discord

tardy tree
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battlefield wipes cod

pine roost
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Well we are criticising cod, so this can’t be the cod discord TOPKEK

tardy tree
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2042 was bad but so was vanguard so it doesnt matter

spice lichen
tardy tree
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the difference is that vanguard is still bad

misty briar
tardy tree
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2042 is good now

spice lichen
pine roost
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There are a few more things to iron out but it’s definitely far better than launch

misty briar
spice lichen
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The sad thing is that players won't go back to their steam reviews and update them to reflect that. It is still at a "very negative" review state.

copper ice
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it deserves that tbh

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lots of people dont want to give it a second chance

spice lichen
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I was still apprehensive about buying it the other day but went ahead and did anyway since it was on sale. I've spent more on games that were absolute flops. I'm glad I did buy it now.

copper ice
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Some games deserve to stay negative when their launches were that bad

pine roost
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You can’t really recover from what happened at launch. Reviews are almost always based entierly on the launch state, which is fair. Stuff should stop releasing in such a state

copper ice
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^

misty briar
spice lichen
pine roost
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But of course if you watch gameplay and find it appeals to you, go ahead

copper ice
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Can't ask everyone to update their reviews every time the game updates

misty briar
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No mans sky was trash at the start and now is trash just with some addition

copper ice
misty briar
copper ice
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The recent reviews being mixed for 2042 are more than it deserves

ebon pilot
livid swift
pine roost
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While I greatly appreciate the work that’s gone into this game, I really do, I personally think it should stay the same since it only promotes the idea of ‘release broken, fix later’. Which I want to stop seeing going forward. We should push them towards polishing it at launch rather than spending 2 years doing so

misty briar
copper ice
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i also really don't think no mans sky is the magic turnaround its claimed to be, people just love stories about stuff being fixed through dedication and love

misty briar
copper ice
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its the same way people are like woaah 2042 is soooo good now

robust vapor
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iQuack and iKill anyone in 2042

patent prism
robust vapor
copper ice
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its not bugged anymore; it still sucks ass in terms of balance and gameplay

misty briar
copper ice
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people experience a 1/10 game, then come back to a 5/10 game and go "wow what an improvement!!"
yeah it got a lot better but its still not a good game man you just remember the absolute trash it was at the start

misty briar
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I think its a fun game

pine roost
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No man’s sky never really managed to recapture my interest even despite its updates. You can grind for money in a matter of hours, get S tier upgrades in say, a week. The story is just a means to get you to begin the main game loop. So ultimately it’s just about building and exploring. If that’s what you want then go for it but I prefer a bit more progression

patent prism
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I personally am rather interested to see what TTK games ends up releasing as it's developed by ex-DICE devs.

copper ice
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Vehicle and infantry interaction is hopelessly imbalanced, the update coming up will shave the worst aspects of this off but irish is still going to be helping vehicles camp and they aren't buffing boris/crawford
the gunplay is so basic that best gun is determined by damage range and rof in every category
880 has been complete dogshit for over a year now

misty briar
wise zodiac
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Diablo 4 will be fun

pine roost
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They haven’t made it clear what kinds of games they are going to make so I too am curious to see where they are going at TTk

spice lichen
wise zodiac
misty briar
copper ice
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explosive spam is going to get worse instead of better with the new grenades and irish nerf

misty briar
granite island
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It's a space survival game, you build, explore, and expand its simple

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No complicated stuff

pine roost
copper ice
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i can point at basically every single 2042 update and call something fuckin stupid

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

spice lichen
patent prism
misty briar
ebon pilot
spice lichen
wise zodiac
pine roost
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I’m not saying that’s a bad thing either, there are games I don’t like that won game of the year

copper ice
misty briar
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I have that with sea of thives, this game feels like garbage to me but i see why ppl like it

granite island
ebon pilot
wise zodiac
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Why can't we all just get along

copper ice
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You're responsible for this?! I can't believe it

wise zodiac
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Sheesh

patent prism
wise zodiac
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If you think you can do better, go get a degree & apply

pine roost
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I am

ebon pilot
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i don't have a degree but i work at a big tech company already can i still apply?

spice lichen
pine roost
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Well I don’t think I can do any better but I at least want to learn

wise zodiac
misty briar
copper ice
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I appreciate the concept but I cannot think of anything less appealing in the world than getting a degree solely to work at dice and have people who don't have a degree tell me to put TOR in the game

patent prism
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"do it better yourself"

ebon pilot
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if the complaints are "it's bad because uuuuhhh i said so" then it's a fine response

misty briar
patent prism
wise zodiac
wise zodiac
spice lichen
pine roost
misty briar
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Nerfing irish aint it and its because of explosive spam. There easy. We still got the nerf cuz 5 pc of ppl abuse vehicles with irish

wise zodiac
copper ice
# misty briar I mean, ig only dice knows why they do it, logically less ppl play it, less mone...

Probably the potential for if everything goes right; I'm tinfoil hatting here, but the concept of 2042 seemed to be the ideal way to attract a huuuge playerbase for battlefield;
You have portal for all the older players who have nostalgia and want a server browser and balanced gameplay etc, you have hazard zone for hopping on the new trend train, you have AOW for all the newbies getting matchmaked into 128p chaos who don't care about balance or whatever and just want to see the crazy battlefield stuff with 16 specialists designed to squeeze out skin money and be more profitable than ever before, there's a bunch of vehicles to also get skins for and guns and they were likely going to introduce multiple drones to buy skins for as well

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Ideal conditions would lead to massive consistent players and a giant revenue stream

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they just really really really really fucking fucked it up

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and then obviously ditched a bunch of the long term support for it

chilly jacinth
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Tinfoil moment

spice lichen
# misty briar Ye ty

Yeah NP. There are two things I don't discuss with friends and family, religion and politics.

misty briar
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Sounds like its making sense

spice lichen
copper ice
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The specialists feel very designed for easy access gameplay while also being way easier to squeeze money out of than classes because you will want to use multiple specs for different situations so you'll want the skins for them etc

pine roost
# wise zodiac A lot of people do that, I've seen it.

in the recent dev podcast they said how one of the most common complaints regarding jets was that they are 'floaty'. And that dev straight up said that wasn't much to go off of so they went and changed the camera. While that will definitely help, it's telling that a fair few people go in, say 'it feels floaty' or 'it feels like a bus' and just move on. Man I wrote an entire 700 word response Sadge .

The people who do provide genuine responses I greatly appreciate

copper ice
misty briar
ebon pilot
misty briar
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But apex is for kids

ebon pilot
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so what, kids play cod

spice lichen
misty briar
spice lichen
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I don't like Apex

pine roost
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Kids play battlefield, according to most of my voice chat comms

spice lichen
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I don't care for COD either

patent prism
# wise zodiac I mean, I just see a lot of "this is shit" and there's no actual "it's shit beca...

I can't really disagree with that because I am also annoyed by nonconstructive criticism that says "do better" or "this is wrong" but don't provide possible solutions. Which brings me to my wet dream of having mod support for a Battlefield game as it'd be a win-win for developers and players alike.

Why is it a win for developers? Because skilled modders can learn the engine beforehand and the devs can pick out especially skilled developers to recruit for the studio. As far as I can recall, DICE had major issues in training new developers on the Frostbite engine.

Why is it a win for players? Because it'd let the community tailor the experience to their liking (within reasons) through, e.g. additional mechanics and community made maps, etc etc.

I was very excited by the Portal thing for BF2042 because it seemed like a step in what I consider the right direction.

What relevance does this have to the "constructive criticism" point? Because it'd give the players an opportunity to "do it better themselves" without having to start from 0.

copper ice
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tbh its not like they weren't aiming for kids with early 2042 and those end of round angel lines

spice lichen
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I am however, a HUUUUUUGE fan of Titanfall 2.

copper ice
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very standard hero shooter shlock that they know younger audiences love jammed into battlefield framework

patent prism
mossy badge
granite island
spice lichen
misty briar
granite island
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I see why kinda

mellow rock
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Primary recommendations? For Engineer class, etc?

wise zodiac
copper ice
copper ice
misty briar
mellow rock
ebon pilot
mellow rock
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Im running a 240B

copper ice
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generally i assume you're doing vehicle related stuff with engineer though so you'll benefit from using a primary that has the anti tank UBGL which would be the AK-24 or the SFAR

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ohh you're chasing the proficiency

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the LCMG then

mellow rock
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What about that Level 32 weapon?

copper ice
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short barrel LCMG kills super fast, accurate to long ranges, has UBGL

mellow rock
copper ice
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grenade launcher on an lmg is very nice

mellow rock
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Got it

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Everyone is using Avancy these days

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Only used it for the 240B

copper ice
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If you're an engie you're generally either picking it to attack vehicles or defend vehicles though, they're a bit poo for anything else

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I guess crawford turret hurts infantry but you'd be better off with irish barricade

patent prism
# wise zodiac Mod support would be great because I could argue for a Vietnam game on BFVs engi...

Yep. I mean, as a fanatical Arma 3 addict and hobbyist Arma 3 mod developer, it is incredible what the community can do with mod tools. Let me enlighten you to some things that have been made possible in Arma 3 through mod support:

  • World War 2 setting
  • Cold War setting
  • Vietnam War setting
  • Gulf War setting
  • GWOT setting
  • Star Wars setting
  • HALO setting
  • Advanced medical systems including airway management and the various types of pneumothoraxes
  • Advanced ballistics modelling with gyroscopic dridt, wind deflection, humidity all modelled to near perfection.
misty briar
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The best engis are still in the assult class

mellow rock
copper ice
mellow rock
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Basically the backbone

copper ice
misty briar
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It would be cool id engis had the supression effect of bf3

uneven ibexBOT
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Access the #Battlefield records and discover the events that led to the odd-defying conflict in Season 5: New Dawn 👀

mellow rock
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Though what I do see is late trigger pull

wise zodiac
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🧐🧐

mellow rock
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I generally only use engie class for the ATGM as its a problem most of the time

copper ice
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Since anyone can use LMGs you're probably better off picking irish for his barricades/trophy system and ammo bag so you have infinite ammo and a nice defence to give support fire from

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And he's a support

mellow rock
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As I said I’ve only really focused on vehicles that are usable nearly all the time like Recon 4x

mellow rock
copper ice
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The 3 engies in 2042 are not great, lis isn't bad but she's not got much utility outside of shoot rocket at vehicle and the other two are just poo

mellow rock
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Some maps work well with Irish and the Engie with the mounted vulcan

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Put it in a 1 way doorway

copper ice
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Trophy system negates basically any explosive right now that doesn't come from a vehicle cannon

spice lichen
# patent prism I miss that game. I should download that again.

If you do, DL overwolf mod launcher and search for titanfall2, add you game directory, search for northstar mod and install, then launch the game from the mod launcher. The game is on fire again with the new community servers. Barely any wait time to get into matches. Only downside is no progression, everything is unlocked.

copper ice
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All grenades, rockets fired from infantry launchers, i think even some rockets from vehicles

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It's very strong

patent prism
mellow rock
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I do see every single player using that RM68

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If thats what its called

patent prism
copper ice
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That is an unfortunately horrendously overpowered gun right now

mellow rock
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I’ve recently just been trying to get a drum mag on my G57

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As everyone seems to say

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The other weapons are basically useless

spice lichen
misty briar
spice lichen
copper ice
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Rm68 being strong would have been fine if dice didn't refuse to touch it for the entire season

wise zodiac
copper ice
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yeah ok the big season weapon is op whatever nerf it the first chance you get and its fine

mellow rock
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Or a revolver

copper ice
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Leaving it completely untouched is awful

misty briar
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Just play what is fun to u

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Makes most sense

copper ice
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Looks cool though

mellow rock
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I made a Battlefield 3 revolver with scope drawing time ago

carmine rover
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ouch.. how did this guy let me kill him 19 times

misty briar
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Its weird to me that everyone dislikes rm but i outgun rm with m16. And nobody sayn m16 is op

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I cant get over this

mellow rock
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Because m16 is chad

misty briar
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M16 is sigma af

mellow rock
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I dont see a personal point in upgrading other vehicles atm

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I do use the vehicles which are more common

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I’d say

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There are more of them

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Since everyone will stay undeployed just to hog a vehicle which imo is pretty sad and soppy

misty briar
mellow rock
calm bison
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M16A3 fan vs ACW-R Enjoyer

carmine rover
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it’s against the rules

misty briar
mellow rock
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Shoulder mounted vulcan when?

misty briar
mellow rock
patent prism
calm bison
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RN I’m taking a break from 2042 until S5

carmine rover
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rule 4

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no name & shame

misty briar
spice lichen
mellow rock
calm bison
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Also I got summer college work to do

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and it’s getting in the way

carmine rover
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idk ig

misty briar
copper ice
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M16 is good just statistically not as good as rm68
when it gets attachments it'll be the next thing people get mad about

misty briar
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But why do i beat rm all the time

calm bison
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Grenade

misty briar
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For me its the better weapon

calm bison
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Yknow I’m still waiting for them to port over the M98B like they said they would

misty briar
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I did t1 rm as second weapon and after that i played m16 and was wondering why nobody playing that gun

copper ice
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Lots of people dont like vault weapons and have no idea of the actual stats of anything

misty briar
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Fuck the stats. Play it for an hour and them decide urself easy

copper ice
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Easier to see RM68 is good because people were naturally gravitating to it because it was the new season gun

calm bison
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Also just because it is really good?

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Like seasonal popularity aside

misty briar
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Thats why i think ppl are mad about the rm, its like a trend weapon but i still think m16 is just better. Atleast below 100 meters

calm bison
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The thing is remarkably powerful compared to other ARs

copper ice
misty briar
calm bison
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The RM has very low recoil and very high damage

misty briar
#

Ye its an easy weapon

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Made for bots

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If u kmow how to use m16 the rm will be a joke

calm bison
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If you know how to use any gun the RM is a joke

copper ice
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Low recoil high damage high rof integrated suppressor long kill distance even with close combat ammo

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statistically it outperforms m16 in multiple areas

misty briar
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Its the same with an94 back in bf3. Was the most op weapon in the game but ppl didnt know how to use it and used aek and m16

copper ice
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well statistically it outperforms all automatics

calm bison
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Does it out perform this buckshot?

misty briar
copper ice
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You're playing 2042

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Yes

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that answers both dreyfuss and kami btw

calm bison
#

Honestly I still love using the Super 500 because it’s like hitting someone with a shovel of bricks

livid swift
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awareness beats any weapon in this game...so many players are tunnel visioned in this game I swear :))

misty briar
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I rather have a team full of bots than players cuz they will revive u

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Good bot doggo

livid swift
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once in a while you get that super chad player that's also using the rm...ez 60-80 frags no sweat...

misty briar
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Bot

arctic grove
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2042 is truly the BF game of all time. Chinese BF4 clone mmm

misty briar
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These player will cry when rm getn nerfed. Ppl with 10k rm kills and the 2nd most kills weapon is a sexondary with 500 kills

misty briar
copper ice
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Sometimes you get the full bricks shovel and they die at 20m from max health

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Sometimes; oops! all foam! and you meat shot them at 3 metres for 40 damage before they remove your head from your body

wise zodiac
patent prism
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He said, going back and forth between Arma 3 and Battlefield 2042 on a daily basis.

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I'm not much for middle-grounds, either give me a braindead point-and-click adventure (Battlefield) or overly complicated and painful simulation (Arma).

next onyx
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Almost done with the SVK zzzz

honest belfry
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HLL is great but the latest update feels kinda weird

next onyx
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Definitely don't like it.

inner ether
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I can't get over how they're adding an anti-vehicle grenade

honest belfry
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about time

inner ether
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As if vehicles weren't passive enough already

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Now they're not gonna move at all

pastel tinsel
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hello, So I have gotten bf2042 on steam and I was wondering if it is possible to get banned if I give my friend my Steam account to download and play the game.
Just to check and see if he likes it before buying it ofc.

frail ravine
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Whose death did they motion capture for the death animations? Think_Eyes

honest belfry
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lol it looks so stupid when ur character slips on a banana as they die

wise zodiac
honest belfry
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and the weird weapon choices too

ebon pilot
sour meadow
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i just noticed

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no new vehicles in season 5

next onyx
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9 more kills.

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Finally.

left hollow
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im always teased with that jet looking thing in the enter screen for 2042

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when are we gonna get that it looks so dope

chilly jacinth
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It's not a jet

left hollow
next onyx
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Well that's done.

bleak bear
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SVKs not bad. Forgot how it handles.

next onyx
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I'll never touch it again. Semis in this just aren't my thing.

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The VCAR is the only one that I like.

bleak bear
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I actually mastered the M60E4.

arctic grove
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Why would you use a DMR in 2042 if most ARs can shoot you faster on distance then the DMRs

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So silly. Most likely useless in 2042

next onyx
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VSS is the easiest one to use.

bleak bear
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SVD I think is like 2 hits to kill someone. Depends on range.

next onyx
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VCAR is the most balanced.

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VCAR rips at close range but it's poultry beyond it.

bleak bear
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Forgot the name of the one you start out with.

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Can actually fight back against snipers.

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I hate the x6 scope with the red center for scope crosshair.

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I havent played Snipe Elite enough I think it was SE3 or SE4. Where you can zoom in with the scope even more going off the scope crosshair. Thats what 2042 needs.

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x8 the first mil dot is like 500 meters (for DXR-1). But when you zoom in even more maybe like x10 have small dots that you can barely see using x8 above the first mil dot so when you zoomo in x10 it should match with something for like 200 - 300 meters not sure yet.

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I prefer lines over dots.

ebon pilot
bleak bear
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Which one is VCAR? Have to look again.

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Nevermind. Never used the VCAR.

next onyx
low timber
mighty holly
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So way are you a bird or a monke or a fury as some say dare I say weeb leo

robust vapor
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Some guy called me cheater for ace-ing headshots on his teammates

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With a railgun

next onyx
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I am weeb.

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No monke or furry.

robust vapor
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You overdosed on banana juice

next onyx
#

By the way with defibs you can steal knife kills.

robust vapor
hybrid totem
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hey hey hey! This is your daily does of fuck nightbirds

quiet sonnet
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Nvm

next onyx
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No?

quiet sonnet
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Thats 2042

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Idk why i thought it was battlebit for a moment

hybrid totem
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not even armed with aa missiles can other helis stand up to a nightbird's miniguns

fickle wharf
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yeh

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melts jets too lmao

inner ether
solid imp
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No. My kids talk about Minecraft enough, BF is for me to get away from that.

inner ether
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So because it's got voxel graphics you think it's Minecraft. Ok.

hybrid totem
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pretty much

quiet sonnet
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300iq mindset

hybrid totem
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minecraft kinda killed any other video game's appeal when it looks like that

inner ether
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I'm genuinely waiting for it to release

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Seems like good, casual fun.

hybrid totem
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eh when they deleted my bug reports I lost interest

quiet sonnet
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I actually really wish battlefield made something like that, something easy to run on most pcs because there are so many moments where you just arent able to play the game with friends because they just dont have a system to play on

hybrid totem
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I won't

quiet sonnet
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Easy to run etc

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Just needs some balancing between player count and map size

inner ether
inner ether
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You know, I buy a game and I get the game.

quiet sonnet
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Loads of players isnt always a good thing imo, i prefer smaller modes in bf games because they have less bs in them

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But battlebit resolves that by giving you small and big modes

topaz breach
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But the hectic nature of 128 is hilarious

quiet sonnet
inner ether
quiet sonnet
quiet sonnet
inner ether
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No numbers to chase, no achievements to go for, no T1 to grind. Just fun

topaz breach
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Yesterday I had a dude shooting at me, but he ran out of ammo and turned the corner to reload

topaz breach
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To his surprise was an LAT4 awaiting his doom

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Fucker was flattened leo

topaz breach
quiet sonnet
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Oh bf2042

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Thought you meant battlebit

hybrid totem
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did battlebit ever fix the tank bugs?

mental delta
quiet shell
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Damm Bf4 has super healthy numbers rn, and because of a Server browser I have no problem getting into matches

topaz breach
inner ether
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There were like 3-4 different studios making their own bit of this game

topaz breach
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I usually use vehicles for a spawn point since I mainly run medic

inner ether
#

To nobody's surprise that also makes the game direction a mess

mental delta
mental delta
inner ether
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They're all EA/Dice owned though

next onyx
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Makes sense for a part to work on them.

inner ether
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EA has also managed to drive away all the old core developers

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And knowing how these CEO leeches work they likely don't give a shit

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They'll throw new people and money at a problem and think that'll solve it perfectly

inner ether
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So some poor sods have to work into the night trying to get shit done whilst learning how to even work with the engine

topaz breach
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I swear I thought I just sucked lmao. Vehicles aren’t what they used to be in the slightest! Jet flying was my thing in BF3 and I lost it after that

next onyx
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Upper management being shitheads. How new.

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Sorry to seem dismissive but you know.

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It's not surprising.

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Though I bet there'd always be more to it.

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Yeah vehicles are not what they were.

inner ether
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It's tragic yeah

topaz breach
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I laugh when in-game chatters tell everyone they’re playing the game wrong for running infantry

inner ether
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I laugh when infantry blames the tanks for not pushing

topaz breach
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The entire thing is just comical

mighty holly
#

I

arctic grove
#

why are the serevrs so shit in this game

mental delta
trail prawn
#

did rush xl die already? can only find lobbies full of AI

drowsy shuttle
#

mw2 adding streamer skins is top cringe... dear lord... feels like Cod is made and owned by Disney or something...

misty shadow
trail prawn
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I wish DICE didn't kill the population with the launch of this game pepe_cry could be so many more people playing

mighty holly
#

leo also do they really have streamer skins

drowsy shuttle
mighty holly
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leo and they still haven’t put an option to buy voice announcers like in cod ghost

errant scarab
#

hi

mighty holly
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leo they’re really missing out on the voice announcer cash grab

lucid ore
#

есть кто из россии

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кто хочет в команду я могу на поддержке играть

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танк или воздух

mighty holly
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к сожалению, здесь в основном английский leo

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leo и я не русский

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It is what it is sadly

fickle obsidian
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Bruh streamer skins in mw2 cringe ngl

drowsy shuttle
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Super cringe imo

warm stirrup
#

Did y'all forget about the messi skin?

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Or the other pro athlete?

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How is this different?

mighty holly
#

leo wait what

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There’s an athlete skin too why leo

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leo at this point might as well add in vtubers too

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leo gotta have em all include the furry lads

warm stirrup
#

Let's not forget about the shredder skin from tmnt

fickle obsidian
#

Kevin Durant right? or something like that

warm stirrup
#

Yee

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Shredder skin but no turtle skin

fickle obsidian
#

tbh cod is something else they just want money 💀

warm stirrup
#

Shredder, the leader of the foot ninja clan, uses a gun now....

mighty holly
#

We need Star Wars characters in cod

tranquil turtle
#

How can this be explained

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128 player rush was an instant hit in portal

warm stirrup
#

To be fair it is a weekday

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Most people work or got school during the day

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Peak times are around 4ish pm

ebon pilot
#

It's 1 PM I'm still at the office

tranquil turtle
#

I was playing around 9 pm cst last night

warm stirrup
#

Yee majority of people got jobs

spice lichen
fresh cairn
#

Got tagged in sumn too lazy to find it

arctic grove
#

Damn this Sundance Gimp suit is more wild than Santa Boris. Also why we got a scuba skin with no water maps?????

fresh cairn
#

Fish

arctic grove
#

Gimp

warm stirrup
arctic grove
spice lichen
#

1:28 for me. 30 more minutes til I get off...woot

mighty holly
#

It’s my day off from work

arctic grove
#

I get off at 5pm

dapper river
#

I could in theory get off work whenever I want but then projects would be not done and a lot of angry people in the pipeline would have a word with me crazytroll

spice lichen
warm stirrup
#

Technically anyone could leave work whenever they wanted, will they have a job if they return is the risk, lol

spice lichen
#

Are there any old PC gamers like me here? I'm 43

tardy tree
#

im 18

carmine rover
#

am old

#

20 CursedCat

spice lichen
#

lol. Alright

carmine rover
#

i almost forgot how good whitesnake was

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bangers..

carmine rover
#

whuh

arctic grove
mossy badge
scarlet shard
#

There is a little funny joke in Chinese Battlefield 2042 community.
If you didn't do a good job of contraception this year, your kids will take the college entrance examination in 2042. If he/she/other genders loose or failed the examination, he/she/other genders will became a No-Pats.

arctic grove
tardy tree
scarlet shard
carmine rover
arctic grove
carmine rover
#

meow

arctic grove
#

woof

carmine rover
#

NOO

naive quiver
#

Hmm does the Chinese players play tencent games no ?

fickle obsidian
carmine rover
#

bonbon y u lurking

edgy oriole
carmine rover
#

were u waiting for me to meow

edgy oriole
carmine rover
#

send the michael myers gif

scarlet shard
carmine rover
#

i love that one

arctic grove
edgy oriole
arctic grove
#

Sup gooey. Fancy seeing you here.

edgy oriole
next onyx
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FnV with mods.

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That helps too.

arctic grove
scarlet shard
edgy oriole
scarlet shard
#

So I left with accelerator, like UU Game Booster.

arctic grove
scarlet shard
#

That is not an AD but Game Boosters r helping Chinese players play global games, maybe it could help you to play on other region.

tepid mist
#

hey soo question if i get battlefield 2042 on the epic games store does it load on the ea app and show that im playing it on the ea app?

scarlet shard
#

Yes, both Epic and Steam will load on EA app after you blind your account between them.

carmine rover
#

meow

tepid mist
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ok soo if i have it on the xbox app and i have someone else freined on the ea app and they load it off of the epic games store i will be able to invite them in game just making shure

arctic grove
carmine rover
#

i just do that

arctic grove
#

as long as you give them your EA name to friend them.

tepid mist
#

ok excellent thank you

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thank you

carmine rover
#

look..

arctic grove
#

All i see is a cat meowing

carmine rover
#

real

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im a cat

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meow

scarlet shard
#

may I pet you?

arctic grove
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Lmao

carmine rover
#

hmm

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sure

scarlet shard
#

The cats around me are snobs, and they never come to me unless I bring cat food.

robust vapor
scarlet shard
#

Only the cat that owned by my parents, it likes me, it even sit on my body sometime while I am sleeping.

robust vapor
#

If you sleep your cat will play 2042 in your stead

scarlet shard
#

Then I was directly woken up.

next onyx
#

O.o

scarlet shard
#

It will be cool, but my cat always sit on my laptop's keyboard that I forgot to close last night.

hybrid totem
#

I hope the new anti air choices keep nightbirds dead

#

one week...

jovial jay
#

One map probably

hybrid totem
#

yeah it's a shame thye finally listened to the community on adding aa emplacements

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and only added them on one map

jovial jay
#

Cuz its too bloody hard to add some TOW on other maps

scarlet shard
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Only the new map has AA gun.

hybrid totem
#

Yes, a terrible shame

arctic grove
#

Have a picture of my orange cat

scarlet shard
#

Even portal maps have TOWs and MGs, why there is not in main experience maps......

jovial jay
hybrid totem
#

does that cat fly nightbirds

arctic grove
#

Yes

hybrid totem
#

Then I'm sorry to say but fuck nightbirds

scarlet shard
#

Could it hunt birds?

stiff pollen
#

Is that Boris’ face on chads body

jovial jay
#

Uh oh careful a TOR sweat is creeping up on that cat

arctic grove
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Its hard putting AA and MG placements on all maps. Give DICE a break.

hybrid totem
#

Brutal

arctic grove
hybrid totem
#

Expectations

stiff pollen
#

AA at the least, you don’t need MG spots

jovial jay
stiff pollen
#

Dice has shown they suck at placing them

arctic grove
#

True

stiff pollen
#

Thankfully they said they’re “open” to adding the CIWS AA positions on all the maps

scarlet shard
#

yep

hybrid totem
#

At least, from what I saw, the aa emplacement won't be easily turned on infantry

stiff pollen
#

It’s just the AA from noshahr canals

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Aka it’s busted af

scarlet shard
#

also ture

jovial jay
#

The only TOW I can use freely now is on the hovercraft, barely anyone use the hovercraft nowadays

hybrid totem
#

totally fine. fuck nightbirds

stiff pollen
#

If you want to try it early just spawn as the US on noshahr

#

It’s literally that

scarlet shard
#

On the Carrier

jovial jay
#

This game also lack special map items like the Verdun noob cannon, Zeebrugge coastal guns, monte grappa turrets...

scarlet shard
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CIWS first came out on BF 2 right?

jovial jay
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And now they are just starting to add it

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Little too late much?,

hybrid totem
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and not a single bunker anywhere

arctic grove
scarlet shard
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It is not only late, if the map Respawn is the last map of BF2042, the AA weapon will be limited on that map.

next onyx
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Just need crams and tows.

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Ez.

hybrid totem
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but support will continue beyond season 5!

scarlet shard
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Still looking forward to some Exact information about things beyond S5*

hybrid totem
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at least one person will devote at least some time to the game

scarlet shard
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Maybe only previous Battlefields and BattleBit could stop broken thoughts like this.

hybrid totem
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Pretty sure battlebit will be a fad

jovial jay
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Whats battlebit

hybrid totem
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imagine battlefield, but with 8 bit graphics

royal trail
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roblox battlefield

arctic grove
royal trail
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lol

scarlet shard
arctic grove
hybrid totem
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I could see it taking off for a while after release, but I doubt it will have the staying power of games with better graphics

scarlet shard
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I have supported it on Patreon, it is a good game that worth to support.

hybrid totem
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People may wax poetic about 'just wanting good gameplay" but I think battlebit took it too far

jovial jay
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Almost sounds like those roblox projects lol

hybrid totem
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And I'm still pretty salty about them deleting and ignoring my bug reports

scarlet shard
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There are only 3 devs on that game.

hybrid totem
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So you'd think they would appreciate bug reports

stiff pollen
arctic grove
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WW1: Isonzo feels more like a battlefield game.

jovial jay
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I have a skin for the automatico with the exact name ChefKiss

scarlet shard
scarlet shard
carmine rover
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meow

scarlet shard
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Play 64v64 matches on BF2042 always make my laptop fan roar like an animal.

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Maybe an angry cat that trying to protect its kids?

ebon pilot
heavy lava
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I hope the next battlefield have 64 players instead 128

hybrid totem
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Gosh I hope not. 2042 was a good proof of concept, just badly executed

heavy lava
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The engine is just fucked

hybrid totem
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yep, badly executed from the beginning

scarlet shard
heavy lava
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See how warzone can handle 150 and large map

next sorrel
hybrid totem
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feel free to play the 64p modes

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I don't think the 64p modes should exist, they just split the playerbase. But since they do, go play them

scarlet shard
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I wish devs could get a better method or something about to make 128 players mode running better.

ebon pilot
heavy lava
hybrid totem
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128p spoiled 64p for me

next sorrel
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next bf should have a proper not portal 32 player rush playlist or something

hybrid totem
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now I play 64p and I look around like, "where is everyone"

heavy lava
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I actually like Rush 128

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And realized most bots can't push to the final point

ebon pilot
next sorrel
scarlet shard
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Bad programs turn computers into electric heaters

next sorrel
hybrid totem
heavy lava
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I literally chocked in the last second when no troops and final MCOMs

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And enemy got the defuse

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I say

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Fukkkkk

next sorrel
hybrid totem
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I wonder Kristopher, how do you feel about crossplay

next sorrel
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that said crossplay should always be an option

scarlet shard
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It is bad that devs trying to make maps fix on all of modes, there maybe not an useless map, but 128p Conquer is far more different from 64p Conquer. Then the maps are too big for a single player.

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And there are so few vehicles

hybrid totem
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I'm sad that there are so many cars you cannot drive in 2042

arctic grove
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Im sad there isnt alot of classic maps in Portal.

ebon pilot
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Yeah thought that was kinda odd. There's so many cars, but you can only drive the ATV, the Tuk-Tuk, and a truck

hybrid totem
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and that weird al terrain one on spearhead

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heh weird al

next sorrel
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amish paradise lool

scarlet shard
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Wish next Battlefield Great Again.

hybrid totem
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so nightbirds suck

scarlet shard
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Idk great again like which previous BF but just be great as BF.

hybrid totem
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fuck nightbirds

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I hope the new AA shreds nightbirds

next sorrel
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i would like the next battlefield to have more than 2 modes and portal since portal just becomes xp farms

scarlet shard
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If you think nightbirds bad, why don't you drive it and kill other players with it?

hybrid totem
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I've tried. The handling eludes me

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But bad as I am, I can still orbit and kill AAs with AGMs, with no trouble

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AGMs are absurdly overpowered on nightbirds

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Plus they can literally dodge lock ons by doing loopty loops

scarlet shard
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I always sitting on the deployment interface n waiting for a bird.

hybrid totem
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plus their profile is so small sometimes active radar and lockons just miss

hybrid totem
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Unless you mean "any helicopter" in which case, awesome

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fuck nightbirds

scarlet shard
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Have you tried Lis' TV missile?

hybrid totem
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Again, they can just be dodged

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I have tried, and I can hit most things, even jets - but not nightbirds

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fuck nightbirds

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and as soon as I target a nightbird, they attack me with no recourse