battlefield-2042

[willow sky]

lmao, owners only

[remote kiln]

that's vertical, and horizontal

[safe bramble]

you honestly think a tor will let you fly up to 500m

[willow sky]

team lock sounds nice

[kindred flint]

id be totally ok with owners only

[hybrid totem]

the way to hit camping TORs is by going around, not over

[kindred flint]

"why does the enemy have our tank..? oh some moron bailed out to not die..only to die and give them the tank gg

[remote kiln]

I'm sorry but I don't have any sympathy for people magically implying the tor is some aimbot vehicle lol

[hybrid totem]

they can't see through terrain

[safe bramble]

I don't have sympathy for people that think tor/lis should exist tbh

[remote kiln]

it's your responsibility to know what's on the field

especially if it's camping

you don't have any excuse

[safe bramble]

you clearly haven't flown for more than an hour

seriously flown, atleast

[remote kiln]

right

[safe bramble]

"right" - i have no response

[remote kiln]

there's no response needed my guy

it's just a fact of the game

[safe bramble]

loser response tbh

[remote kiln]

the tor isn't a wildcat, stop pretending it is

copium af

[safe bramble]

tor is worse then wildcat lmao

[copper ice]

i hate the tor in terms of balance but it only hurts aircraft while helis annihilate infantry all day long

[hybrid totem]

it hurts vehicles too

[safe bramble]

TOR/Lis don't exist in bf4 and yet i do just fine, yet i point out the inbalance in 2042 and people go "WELL JUST DO X, YOU SUCK"

like nice bro, you parroted 90% of infantry players

[copper ice]

rock paper scissors of OP unbalanced 2042 tools

[hybrid totem]

I've had a lil fun sniping other TORs with my TOR, specifically on breakaway

[remote kiln]

^

[kindred flint]

bf4 gave more rockets to engineers too so...if the m5/stinger carried more rounds maybe lis wouldnt have to exist

[safe bramble]

i agree with rocket launcher capacity increasing actually

[copper ice]

if the stinger could do anything to aircraft it would be nice

[safe bramble]

and soflam being better

[remote kiln]

funny how quick people forget how oppressive aircraft were, barely 2 seasons ago

[kindred flint]

but ill take a recharging flyable rocket over 3 shots and having to respawn because no shitbags on my team know what an ammo crate is

[copper ice]

m5 deserves more too

[remote kiln]

now it's the magical aimbot tor

[copper ice]

honestly even with lis it's faster to respawn

[kindred flint]

bf4 had 7 of each?

[safe bramble]

SOFLAM being actually good would fix 90% of vehicle whore problems really

[safe bramble]

with AT perk, you got 8 rockets iirc

5 default

[copper ice]

20 seconds per lissile is awful

[hybrid totem]

soflam died the minute you had to equip a rocket to see soflammed targets

[kindred flint]

ah

[remote kiln]

the engineer can't have 8 RPGs in 2042

[copper ice]

soflam is dead regardless because everything has flares

[safe bramble]

SOFLAM also died the moment they removed locking through terrain

[hybrid totem]

I actually saw someone using the tracer dart today

it didn't help

[safe bramble]

poor soul

[kindred flint]

were they ok?

[hybrid totem]

I don't think so

[kindred flint]

did they have a stroke or something on the deploy screen

[remote kiln]

BF4s RPGs had arc, and pretty extreme ones at that at range

[kindred flint]

like bro this isnt launch week of the dart when it was good

[remote kiln]

2042 doesnt

[copper ice]

the only thing soflam does right now is enable ground locks to target air and vice versa; this is useless because flares and smoke

[safe bramble]

nah flares are fine, rockets need increased dmg against aircraft if soflama'd and needs a projectile speed increase drastically

[copper ice]

90% of people pick lis and m5 because they don't get fucked by flares

[safe bramble]

then overextending morons get fucked

[calm bison]

Add new jets

Do it

[copper ice]

i spent a whole round in a stolen hind with someone perma-soflaming me and no one hit me through my flares

it won't make a difference

[safe bramble]

it does, play a bit of bf4 soflam

that shit wrecks

[remote kiln]

conservatively EG arc doesn't begin till like what, 300m? in 2042, and it's very noticeable

[copper ice]

thats bs4

[safe bramble]

which 2042 can copy

[hybrid totem]

I loved bf4's differentiating between SOFLAM and the PLD. So nice

but no we don't get a deployable soflam gadget in 2042

[remote kiln]

fuck the deployable soflam

it should never have existed

[hybrid totem]

but so easy to see and destroy

[copper ice]

we don't need more deployables

dice can't balance them

[safe bramble]

lmao after an opinion THAT dumb

another regular added to the "dont bother arguing with" list

[remote kiln]

ah yes because trying to find a infinite range deployable is fun isn't it

[hybrid totem]

you won't be able to help it, give it time

[remote kiln]

did you forget how flat the maps were in 4?

it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack

[hybrid totem]

a needle that glows bright red, sure

[safe bramble]

dude doesn't even know how soflam works

[remote kiln]

good luck seeing a bright red glow through 40 trees

[safe bramble]

its range was 500 bro

[remote kiln]

PLD range is half the map size of the game

golmud was the biggest, and that was 1000m

[safe bramble]

sure, but did you forget terrain exist

[remote kiln]

terrain in 4?

what game are you playing cause it's definitely not 4

[safe bramble]

unless you got some insane height advantage in which i'd be suprised if you didn't get sniped, that only really affects aircraft

but aircraft can even that out with verticality

[hybrid totem]

PLD was 350. Soflam was 500

[safe bramble]

not in 4

PLD is 500

[remote kiln]

there is no terrain what are you talking about

there is no magical mountain you can fly over

[safe bramble]

even on golmud you need specific spots to take full advantage of that range

[hybrid totem]

Range
500 meters (ground targets)
300 meters (air targets)

Yeah ok you're right

[safe bramble]

doesn't sound right is that bf3?

[remote kiln]

golmud "specific spots", is literally just putting the PLDs on top of the pylons lmao

[safe bramble]

I pld every day and its 500 both

[remote kiln]

the indestructible pylons I'd like you to remember

[hybrid totem]

PLD wasn't in bf3. according to the wiki

just the soflam

[calm bison]

PLD is basically SOFLAM tho

[hybrid totem]

but it didn't broadcast its position

[safe bramble]

PLD/SOFLAM are seperate tools but they both do laser designations

[remote kiln]

LAG was in BF3

[calm bison]

You could still paint targets with it

[safe bramble]

2042 in its infinite wisdom boiled it down to 1 gadget and fucked the name

[remote kiln]

it was even more oppressive than the PLD in 4

literally just broadcast any vehicle on the map, including at the enemy spawn

[copper ice]

based

[hybrid totem]

I wish some spotter seats could laser designate

[remote kiln]

it's a pretty odd? exclusion tbh

[copper ice]

Would make them actually worth using

[hybrid totem]

remember on launch when only spotter seats could 3d spot

[remote kiln]

honestly I wouldn't even mind if they stripped out the Spotter exclusively for laser designating

[abstract slate]

is it normal for 2042 to thermal throttle my cpu to 90C+

[remote kiln]

thermal throttling doesn't kick in till 100 degrees, 90 degrees is within your thermal delta

tldr yes

[abstract slate]

alright thx

[karmic egret]

So we might get a trailer for season 5 on friday

Because the Season 4 trailer came out 10 days before Season 4 released

So since Season 5 launches on June 6 and today is the 23rd we might get the trailer on the 26th

That is a MIGHT

And season 5 is looking to be the last season

Because this Season is called Eleventh Hour

Which usually means that it's coming to an end

So Season 5 might be called Endgame

And the map is looking to set in Czechoslovakia

[warm stirrup]

Also the fact that dice stopped working on the game since season 3. Season 4 and 5 is being handled by portal devs ripple effect

[karmic egret]

So I was right in it being set in europe

[karmic egret]

The map was made by ripple effect the weapons were made by DICE

[warm stirrup]

1 dice developer handles the weapons

[karmic egret]

Alex is the Lead weapons designer

There is a weapons team

[warm stirrup]

Let's not forget the multiplayer lead designer is calling for more people on the new battlefield

And another main dev landed in Stockholm for obvious reasons

[dapper river]

I'll join, I'll be the "Ideas Guy" since I have the best ideas for the franchise going forward

"Just like, make the graphics tighter bro"

[warm stirrup]

Enders pointed these out in the vid season 5 is the last season, and many people doubted him

Also doesn't help with each patch, there's been less and less changes

[royal swan]

It's still speculation, and even he wishes that he could be wrong

[arctic grove]

Less bugs to patch()

[dapper river]

Yeah but he's a whiny balding shit, so I choose to ignore everything he says and instead attack his person

[royal swan]

I wouldn't trust anyone's word for speculation on what's going to happen next

Except for temporyal

[next onyx]

Guy is nice.

You can tell he isn't malicious.

I wonder if he's been asked to stop with the datamining for some while.

[royal swan]

I checked on him, there has been some stuff he shared

[next onyx]

Like the small teaser to the season 4 event yeah.

[royal swan]

Like in April he shared what the icons looked like for squad contracts

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that's right.

[slender isle]

EE was kinda cool

hoped for a wee bit more oomph at the end but what can you do

We build the storms now lol

🤨

[arctic grove]

[slender isle]

"QUAD FEED"

What's the halo announcer say?

KILLSTRAFESY

something like that

[arctic grove]

"quintiple kill" like the overwatch athena

that would be...

awesome.

lol

that would be hilarious thoo

[odd yew]

So like Overwatch or Halo

[vivid inlet]

Finally I have bsvm

The distance marksman kills took me so long

[regal perch]

lars is being a chad

hope he makes a game to compete with battlefield

[arctic grove]

Yea

[placid echo]

Not the best spot to receive a throwing knife

[humble helm]

KILLIONARE

[odd yew]

[regal perch]

killamenjaro

(7 kills i think)

[ebon pilot]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

how to effectively tactically use a ranger in combat

[heavy bough]

I'm getting close to having my first ever rank 1 character skin

If anyone cares

[warm stirrup]

You mean tier 1?

[heavy bough]

Yes

[warm stirrup]

Rank 1 sounds like level 1

[tidal light]

I was going to comment in the lfg channel, but it seems to be not as active as the other channels. Just looking for chill people to play 2042 with. Too many peeps on Xbox who are jerks.

[heavy bough]

Sorry I just directly translated it, in german they're called "rang" which just means rank

[slender isle]

New season seems to have an orange red colour and we think it's called New Dawn

[heavy bough]

Any other infos so far?

Sad that there wont be any new specialists, but at least we have 4 for each class now

[slender isle]

Not really. Other than the new map being set in the Czech Republic and that we have Arkangel Technologies (who was in the BF4 final stand DLC lore and 2142)

[next onyx]

Pro 90. Mind the shocking accuracy.

[heavy bough]

Interesting

[slender isle]

Also that the US announcer will be different with the new map and it may not be the US at all

[heavy bough]

Maybe its Oz?

[slender isle]

I don't think so, it might just be a Czechian announcer vs a russian announcer

that seems to be the overall notion

but we are aiming towards the 2142 timeline atm

[heavy bough]

Holy shit your aim is on point my guy, and that parachute pull was sleek af

I killed an amtrac with C5 earlier by sneaking around it, that was fun

[warm stirrup]

So... Bf3, 2042, and 2142 are all connected?

[heavy bough]

Yeah

[warm stirrup]

Nice

[slender isle]

Yes

and BF4

[warm stirrup]

Wait

Bf4

Not 3

[slender isle]

3 is also

[heavy bough]

3 too cuz dima

[warm stirrup]

Ah

[slender isle]

and Sundances parents got blown up in the paris nuke lol

[heavy bough]

Also Sundance's backstory references her parents dying in the paris nuclear attack from bf3

Bruh

Looks like we shared the braincell right there @slender isle

[slender isle]

Seems it aha

There's a ton of stuff connecting the games

[heavy bough]

Still sad that there is no 42 story

Also no Recker : (

[slender isle]

and 2142 might just get retconned with a soft reboot of the name

[warm stirrup]

Is 1942 and bad company 2 connected? Being in portal and such?

[heavy bough]

Tbh I dont see the bad company story clashing with the rest of the franchise

[slender isle]

I don't believe BC2 is

the BC games are their own things

more spin off stories

[warm stirrup]

Ah

[slender isle]

I believe BF1 and BFV are also connected thanks to blackburn

[heavy bough]

I like that they have the bradley in 42 portal, but its so fucking hard to find a bc2 server on xbox one

[slender isle]

It's hard to find it anywhere lol

[heavy bough]

I fucking love the portal bradley

[warm stirrup]

Why not the portal kevin?

[heavy bough]

Kevin?

The rhea?

[warm stirrup]

Issa joke silly

[heavy bough]

I am confusion

[warm stirrup]

Bradley also being a name

[heavy bough]

Oh

Forgot about that

Its named after some civil war general or something, right?

[warm stirrup]

Idk

[heavy bough]

I just love ifv's in general

And its much more fun to play them in battlefield than in fucking war thunder

God I hate that game

[warm stirrup]

Charlie's dad is 1% top players in war Thunder

Moist

Critical

[heavy bough]

Oh that Charlie

I dont like it

I just dont have fun in that game

[elfin coral]

1 and 3 you mean

Clyde and Henry

[slender isle]

BfV has someone else in it that ties it all together

[elfin coral]

Where?

[slender isle]

But 1 has Blackburn and 3 does too

[heavy bough]

In battlefield you can rush the enemy with risk still involved, in war thunder you get one shot by some pixel across the map

[slender isle]

I don’t know that’s where my knowledge runs out lol. I just remember it being a thing aha

[warm stirrup]

How is 1942 connected?

[copper fulcrum]

Blackburn is the announcer in BF3's portal

[karmic egret]

I don't play war thunder

[copper fulcrum]

1942 has no 'story', it's got historical battles

[karmic egret]

Fuck that shit

[copper fulcrum]

So it is connected in the fact that it was the historical event

[karmic egret]

So the new easter egg reveals that the US are the bad guys in this situation

[heavy bough]

They've been portrayed less favorably since launch, but yeah

[warm stirrup]

Wow first time a war game portrayed the us as the bad guys

[heavy bough]

But I dont think they portray either the US or russia as the good guys

[karmic egret]

No they are both as bad as each other

[heavy bough]

The russians in 2042 just arent really that prevalent, just the counter imperialist power to the US

Yeah they probably are

[karmic egret]

Both use the No Pats as pawns for their own gain

[heavy bough]

Just that in this universe the russians are actually militarily competent and have more than 7 T14's

[karmic egret]

Because with spearhead missile thing the Wolff guy says the No pats losses are acceptable casualties

[warm stirrup]

But the ai are russian and american soldiers lol

[heavy bough]

I think thats the viewpoint of both sides, wolff just said it out loud

Though tbh I dont think he would have cared if there were us forces there either if it meant killing Oz

[karmic egret]

I mean on flashpoint the russian announcer said to take Oz either dead or alive

[heavy bough]

The announcers also both refer to no pats as 'assets' and 'ressources'

[karmic egret]

The Russians were only after the tech

[heavy bough]

Yeah they're not as focused on Oz as the US

That wollfe cia guy just has a personal vendetta

[karmic egret]

Of course he's part of the CIA

[heavy bough]

I mean... yeah

[karmic egret]

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT

[heavy bough]

Its the foreign intelligence agency

Wouldnt make sense for him to be fbi

Because then he wouldnt be operating outside of US soil

[karmic egret]

Yeah the FBI is the internal intelligence agency

[heavy bough]

Yep

[karmic egret]

So the new map is set 6 years in the future

[heavy bough]

In 48?

Whats your source?

[karmic egret]

I think DICE should give 2042 the edgerunners treatment

Just make a short series or something idk

To flesh out the story

[heavy bough]

Some sort of tie in show would be dope, but I doubt EA would spend money on that

[karmic egret]

The show would count if the writing is good

[heavy bough]

And if they did they'd hire the cheapest studio out there

[karmic egret]

Yeah

[heavy bough]

Novels would be cool too, but only like 10 people would experience them

[next onyx]

2048 in due part of two pieces of information, One a playercard which highlights the advancements and the other due to a post.

[heavy bough]

Thank you

[karmic egret]

EA needs to be more financially risky sometimes because they are making bank with microtransactions

[next onyx]

U.S basically retreats because they were the exposed as the ones who caused the blackouts.

[heavy bough]

Its EA, they dont like taking risks

[next onyx]

Due to mis use of the original satellite.

[warm stirrup]

Don't be Activision

[heavy bough]

They caused the Kesseler effect?

[warm stirrup]

70+ bundles every season

[karmic egret]

Idk which one is worse

[next onyx]

And as presented in renewal, The shearwater 2 satellite proves not to be a royal fuck up.

Uh

Could say so that they caused it.

A mis firing of the satellite.

[karmic egret]

So was it an accident

[next onyx]

This story is so fucking bare bones.

[heavy bough]

Was renewal the egypt one with the trump wall?

[next onyx]

Not 100% sure.

[heavy bough]

Sorry the names are all different on my version of the game

[next onyx]

Yeah renewal is the caspian border reimagining.

[slender isle]

I wonder if the BOLTE will be moving to RAM category and leaving the heavy transport category

[karmic egret]

Man 2042 actually had a decent and interesting premise for a plot

[next onyx]

Would be nice if the story wasn't DRIPFED.

[heavy bough]

Its funny cuz theres an actual Caspian remake

[warm stirrup]

The fact that Activision shut down sm2 and xlabs and the boIII client shows they are worse

[next onyx]

Two to three maps a season would make the story and game continue at a decent pace.

[heavy bough]

Yeah they should have really made a story more with Irish and maybe Recker

[karmic egret]

Didn't they pirate the game

[warm stirrup]

Nope

[next onyx]

They used paid clients of the games.

[warm stirrup]

Legal use

[next onyx]

Through modding they could be connected to a new server.

[warm stirrup]

Activision just being greedy

[heavy bough]

I'm gonna get my blasco tier 1 skin soon if I keep getting good spots for the X6 on rush

[karmic egret]

So did you need to purchase copies of the original games to use it?

[warm stirrup]

Yes

[karmic egret]

Oh well that is fuckin scumy

[heavy bough]

Also I just unlocked the M1911 in the standard game, its fucking awesome

Perfect secondary imo

Well almost

Could have used some more ammo, but its a 1911, whaddaya do

[warm stirrup]

Last one left is plutonium and bet they're also gonna receive a cease and desist soon too

[kindred flint]

Sure, if all the other pistols didnt exist

[heavy bough]

Yeah that Nordvik pistol is also dope

I like the two shot burst fire

[copper fulcrum]

Classic CoD is dead as we know it

[heavy bough]

The glock is kinda meh to me, the bullets feel a bit weak

And the m28 or whatever is the same just without the bonus of a burst fire mode

[warm stirrup]

What's sad is these mods had anti-cheat

[kindred flint]

mp28 has a higher damage model..

[warm stirrup]

Classic cod doesn't

[copper fulcrum]

and dedicated servers

[warm stirrup]

Yee

[kindred flint]

and the glock is fairly busted close quarters with burst fire

[copper fulcrum]

and mods that allow bots

[heavy bough]

Yeah ik, I prefered it as a secondary for when I use a shotgun or smg, but the 1911 works better for me. I like the high damage and accuracy

[copper fulcrum]

btw, isn't it weird that CoD has bots for private matches but they don't get used to auto-fill servers that aren't forfeiting?

[warm stirrup]

The mod did

[heavy bough]

Speaking of bots, I think the one's in 2042 are actually pretty good

[copper fulcrum]

I know but I mean for actual non-modded CoD

[heavy bough]

Not too strong but still a threat, in numbers even more so

[warm stirrup]

Hosting a 128 player payload server if anyone interested

Same mode from Team fortress 2 and overwatch

[heavy bough]

Whats your favorite map?

[warm stirrup]

In general? Or on payload?

[heavy bough]

In general

[warm stirrup]

Idk

[vocal adder]

It still hurts my soul knowing blizzard bandit still doesn't match anything

[warm stirrup]

Guess my favorite map would be arica harbor

[heavy bough]

I meant full on 2042 map, that one is more of a remaster

[warm stirrup]

I mostly play portal so count all 17 maps

[heavy bough]

I think I like manifest and that panama canal one

With the ship in the middle

[ebon pilot]

stranded

[radiant prism]

NEW SEASON 5 GUN LEAK?????

[ebon pilot]

no way

[slow plank]

lmfao

[limpid pond]

Looks kinda like the mk9

From mw19

I think it was like the bruen mk9 with the small mag

[tough wolf]

looks so cool guys cant wait for the new gun guys im gonna frag these servers with the new gun guys cool!

[humble helm]

Use a .46 since in 2042 they found a way to beat .45

[warm stirrup]

They also added another c to c4

C5

And change the scar to the sfar

Sfar is just 2042 version of scar

[midnight depot]

Are there any groups anyone recommends joining for BF2042? Trying to find people to play with but I'm not sure who's who so to speak

[warm stirrup]

I'm me

[willow sky]

ellooo

[midnight depot]

Hello!

[willow sky]

we got a group that usually play at night

the alternative is that you can hop on one of the bf2042 squad vc's

most of them are very nice

[midnight depot]

Oh ok, I wasn't too sure about hopping in a VC cause I wasn't sure if people were too chill or not, I'm not very good so I don't want to make anyone mad

[willow sky]

no worries fam, i also got nervous in the beginning

just gotta hang out with the right crowd

[midnight depot]

Thanks for the advice!

[humble helm]

Hehehe

Special Operations Forces Fuckin Assault Rifle (FN-SFAR)

[warm stirrup]

Special Forces Assault Rifle = sfar
Special Cookie Assault Rifle = scar

[humble helm]

BSV-M is good at something I just dont know what

[hybrid totem]

shootin' bullets?

[warm stirrup]

Beat Saber Vehicle-Massacre

[reef cedar]

if i get killed by one more rm68 im going to fucking out pizza the hut I SWEAR TO GOD

[warm stirrup]

Pls no pizza the hutt

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-gif-9201232

Pizza the hutt

[reef cedar]

USE ANOTHER GUN

please

and thank you

anyone know how to counter it?

[warm stirrup]

You simply don't

[reef cedar]

yeah guess so

[humble helm]

Ah yes the Remington-68

[reef cedar]

got killed by the same dude using that rifle 4 times and cleared an objective of 6 people with it prone in a bush

[warm stirrup]

Does the bush camo even help the vehicles?

[reef cedar]

maybe?

[warm stirrup]

Nobody is gonna confuse a giant tank for a bush cuz it has a few leaves lol

[hybrid totem]

only within 150m, if it even does

the game doesn't render any skins past that distance anyway

[reef cedar]

idk man, how big the leaves?

[humble helm]

Simultaneously the BSV-M feels like the best and worst DMR

Its amazing up close since its completely silent with no directional markers but from far away it hits like a .22 even with high power with the recoil of one too

[slender isle]

Rocket launcher

[slender isle]

You stick it inside a bush to be a bush

[copper ice]

bsv is a 3 hit kill up to 75m

it has some of the highest range in the game

[next onyx]

Shouldn't even have that range with short suppressor.

[radiant prism]

NEW S5 GUN

[next onyx]

Mac 10 shotgun.

Rip your arms.

Literally lol.

[radiant prism]

yes

but its an underbarrel on an M249

with TWO MP25 GRENADE LAUNCHERS

get alex on it now

[long girder]

Hi all, not sure what's going on. I can't seem to queue for anything other than TDM. When it finally does queue, I get placed into an empty server. I've restarted and verified files. No dice. Anybody can help? I'm NA

[slender isle]

Crossplay on?

[long girder]

does it matter? I'm on PC

it was off; I didn't even know there was a setting

[glad pike]

is 2042 worth getting? im still content with battlefield 4 and 5 multiplayer so idk if i wanna shoot to get 2042

[long girder]

lol that did the trick, I guess it's dead on PC

thanks, I appreciate it

[long girder]

i'm a BF3 & 4 respecter too but 2042 has been good, I was hoping they'd do more with portal. Right now there's a conquest playlist that plays on BC2 and BF3 maps which they have every once in a while, I like it

[copper ice]

if its off it only matches you with other people that have it off

which is like 5 people

[long girder]

oh, makes sense, thanks

[glad pike]

thats pretty sick

nice pfp too

[carmine rover]

this has to be the coolest player background Dice has released for season 4

[dapper river]

No games ever seem to utilize the 249's ability to load STANAG magazines, I didn't even know it could do that until I played H3VR

[arctic grove]

This fuckin game STILL resetting my skins

[rocky kraken]

naw its over

obviously dice is throwing all they have left into season 5

[elfin coral]

Siege does

[rocky kraken]

its the end

😦

[arctic grove]

Did you see the last dice podcast summary? New animations similar to older games

We’ve achieved it my brudda

[rocky kraken]

i wish new animations

its just camera work

animations will still be bad

[potent trench]

need first person takedown

[arctic grove]

Oh really? I must’ve misinterpreted it. Fuck me then

[potent trench]

i rarely does knife kills anymore in 2042

it's not fun anymore

[rocky kraken]

well leviathan

they may be changing traversal sprint

so we could get a better animation for that maybe?

[thick shadow]

De fuck

I deadass thought your pfp was google authenticator

No offence

[slender isle]

Bro what? People want more in the game, then dice decide to add more and not drop feed and everyone’s throwing a fit

[rocky kraken]

whos

[thick shadow]

Yours

[rocky kraken]

its okay

its a sun

[rocky kraken]

because they havent put this much work into the game ever

[thick shadow]

From far it kinda looked like it

[rocky kraken]

its just fishy

and the fact they havent annoucned another season

is even worse

[thick shadow]

I dig the grey sun ngl

[rocky kraken]

and the fact that they didnt even put battlefield on the live service for ea

[slender isle]

Fishy as in they put all the fixes into the game that people wanted and are now working on the main sections of the game?

[rocky kraken]

callings

this is exactly how bf5 went

[slender isle]

BfV had covid idiot

[rocky kraken]

we know thats not why

[thick shadow]

Anyone know why they got rid of the classic vaulting animation we had in bf3 all the way to bfv

[rocky kraken]

because

[slender isle]

“Oh no the entire world shutdown and we have to make this other game, bfV ain’t bringing anything new in so we’ll try get everyone onto 2042 to make sure it releases”

[rocky kraken]

2042 uses the same animation for 3rd and 1st person

making it janky

meanwhile bf3 -bf5 had different ones making them more polished

[thick shadow]

You know the animation where your soldier swings his legs over a fence

[rocky kraken]

yea

cause it would be jank

in 2042

because of how they did animations and the camera

[thick shadow]

Elaborate?

[rocky kraken]

in 2042 there is a camera in the head of the soldier

3rd and 1st animations are the same

[thick shadow]

Wtf?

Is it actually

[rocky kraken]

which means it limits the stuff they can do

yes

look up 2042 animations

[thick shadow]

Bro i legit had no clue

[rocky kraken]

they are the same

[humble helm]

Look down and run

It's evil

[rocky kraken]

its janky as hell

[thick shadow]

I see

[rocky kraken]

and hope they dump it in the trash

and go back to bf5

type

[thick shadow]

Bf4 was just right for me

[rocky kraken]

personally i think they did it to shave down animation time

also 2042 animations are all motion capture

[humble helm]

The SFAR is actually really damn nice

[thick shadow]

No way

[rocky kraken]

yes

some weapons are nice

others are janky movement

[humble helm]

Who the hell runs like that

[rocky kraken]

the same dude who animated the base game weapons did the motion capture

[thick shadow]

You're telling me that those clunky looking animations are mo cap

[rocky kraken]

for reloads at least

the reloads are as far as i know

wouldnt be suprised if it all was

[humble helm]

Ok reloads make sense

[rocky kraken]

its just far faster

[thick shadow]

I only really have an issue with how the guns kickback when firing

[rocky kraken]

though i hope we get a gunplay rework that includes animation work

[humble helm]

You don't like how their stock compresses?

[arctic grove]

CAV brawler, 2 tanks with APS, Irish APSs, and the super hind, PLUS 300 tickets at last sector

But apparently defenders and their 1 jeep and 1 tank have any natural advantage lmao

DICE, fix this game mode pls

[thick shadow]

Its just that the animation doesn't really feel all that powerful to me, mostly with the automatic guns. The snipers are alright

[arctic grove]

The games presentation and aesthetics are so indie level it hurts

[humble helm]

Yeah they feel like airsoft

[arctic grove]

Yeah nothing really has weight. Movement is even more dumbed down

Just looks jarring compared to actual other battlefield games

[humble helm]

Movement is dumbed down because there's no dynamic animations, its always the same one

And of course they forgot you're not supposed to be able to perfectly reload while eating bullets

[thick shadow]

Hear me out.

I know its a very fanboy thing to say but i really love the animations in modern warfare, considering that 2042 wanted to do the same with the tac reloads and weapon shake I'd say it wouldn't hurt to rework the animations a bit to give them more personality

[slender isle]

Oh no, my animation reloads the gun the same everytime 🙉😔😱

[humble helm]

That's not at all what I'm saying

[azure basalt]

they don't have 3000 dev

it will take to much time

[slender isle]

So you want when animation of someone reloading but they don’t reload properly while under fire?

Like what’re you asking here

[azure basalt]

im an animator so i know how time consuming reworking all the weapon animation

[foggy hazel]

hi all

[arctic grove]

MW19/MW2 animations and gun customization are peak

[humble helm]

Not improperly, but the fact of the matter is you can look at BF1 or BFV even and see the difference

[thick shadow]

I understand it will take time but the fact they had to put almost all studios to work on this title begs the question on how they ended up with this quality

[humble helm]

There's a lot more personality in those

[thick shadow]

I still like the game for what it is though

[slender isle]

But who is looking at the reloads in the middle of a fire fight? Like honestly who cates

Cares*

[azure basalt]

literally changes the whole reload animation in game industry

[azure basalt]

this is true

[humble helm]

If you follow that path enough you'll be playing games from the 90s because they want to be fun more than look cool

[arctic grove]

I can’t play fps games older than mw19 and look at, just everything and not have my retinas burn

[azure basalt]

we just going to impress for like a month or 2 then we don't care enough

just going to play the game like normaly

[arctic grove]

I just like presentation

[humble helm]

For a series known more for visuals over gameplay it better have some actually good visuals

[slender isle]

You’re saying 2042 doesn’t have good visuals 🤨🤨

[humble helm]

I'm saying they've done better with weaker tech

[proper fulcrum]

Shouldn't Season 5 be released soon? Hasn't 4 been out for almost three months now?

[arctic grove]

I’m not always playing to get the most kills, sometimes I’m chilling and slow down to try a cool off meta loadout and be satisfied by nice animations

It’s not as important as some may personally think

[azure basalt]

i dont really care about gun animation if the gameplay / gunplay is good but if its like portal weapon animation i can't, some of them are hard to look at so stiff and weird

[arctic grove]

But it’s absolutely important

[thick shadow]

I do admit that the mw19 reloads set a bar for most people but to think it's a mandatory requirement for each shooter is just asking a bit to be the same

[slender isle]

Personally, I don’t think BF has had as good foliage, or just general effects than what we have in 2042

[copper ice]

it shouldnt be worse than previosu games

[arctic grove]

Reload animations I don’t really care about in particular just like perspective animations n shit in general, idk how to describe it

[thick shadow]

This

[arctic grove]

But the way the weapon/character shifts during movement or looking around and what not is all satisfying in a game like BFV or MWII

[thick shadow]

I like how you can run around holding a frag like a spas

[humble helm]

Personally I think everything looks like plastic or special effects, it's not nearly as immersive to see a toy tank shooting pyrotechnics

[azure basalt]

i gotta say they really trying to change how the movement feels in 2042 maybe trying out a new thing than previous game

[copper ice]

i think they're just trying to fit 128p onto one map

[humble helm]

The movement is awkward looking but it feels decent

[copper ice]

dumb everything down for double players

[arctic grove]

Like I’m saying tho. After a while this isn’t all that, good, I guess? Maybe it’s the fact that 2042 has neither good animation or gameplay, but I still want a visually engaging experience too

There’s no reason we should be where we are

[humble helm]

The fast paced style of 2042 does benefit from simple animation though, I'll play devils advocate

[muted talon]

worth buying? first time bf player

[thick shadow]

The 128 mode is a bit too much for me, the 64 one is just the one

[copper ice]

gotta be fast for 128p

[arctic grove]

It’s fundamental to why it’s so fast paced yes

[copper ice]

it literally all comes down to it being 128p

[azure basalt]

this. is why the animation feels fast not that weighty like MW

[slender isle]

Like I said, foliage and effects have never looked this good in any multiplayer game

[copper ice]

fundamental design choice that impacts everything else

[azure basalt]

because the game is fast pace

[humble helm]

Depends, you want to go for 1 for slower paced gameplay, 2042 for speedy gonzalez style gameplay, and V if you love exploiters

[slender isle]

Too bad shits fun as fuck

[arctic grove]

1 is not slow paced at all

[thick shadow]

If the weapon animations are fast because of the pace then i understand

[copper ice]

[citation needed]

[humble helm]

This is true, I don't much like the UI though

[humble helm]

It tends to not play as fast

[azure basalt]

the reason why newest COD feel so slow and campy because the animation is really slow and more tactical

[vivid inlet]

Omg bsv m is so goooood

[humble helm]

Hence the slower

[copper ice]

i like speed to a degree but 2042 feels like the downsides of high speed gaming without the upsides

[vivid inlet]

It's a 2 shot kill

[slender isle]

I’m the citation. 128p is the most fun I’ve had in a multiplayer game in years. Shits hella chaotic and fits my playstyle well. It would be better with some good NetCode but for a first try it’s great

[arctic grove]

It’s hectic and it has its gunplay to thank for that, everyone moves in close, even in conquest it’s pretty consistent

[copper ice]

i would love to be able to see the game through your eyes

[humble helm]

I can't see the blue since it's so transparent

[elfin coral]

Simple turn off brain

[azure basalt]

i wish i can play 128p with 60hz but 45 hz is killing me so much behind cover

[elfin coral]

And go monkey

[arctic grove]

128 I’m generally greatful for. I don’t think DICE should drop it forever

[thick shadow]

Dude is having fun with 128 players, nothing wrong with that

[slender isle]

Agreed. I find 2042 just has a latency problem

[azure basalt]

so back to 64 player with more map and 75hz pls dice

[copper ice]

unfortunately i don't have the ability to ignore the massive detriments caused by 128p

[arctic grove]

Or gradually increase it to smth like 40v40

64p forever is snores

[thick shadow]

How much difference would 8 players extra per team make

[copper ice]

more than you'd think

[copper fulcrum]

50v50

[thick shadow]

Didn't dice say that doing 128 wasn't impossible at first?

[humble helm]

They should shrink the maps a bit, reduce players to like 100-112, and with that they could probably graphically improve a bit

[slender isle]

If we could get to 150 players on like discarded sized maps it’d probably be perfect. I just think at the start of 2042 the maps were too big for 128p

[fervent rose]

crazy idea here

64 player battlefield

[thick shadow]

100 is just right imo

[humble helm]

It'll help if they shrink the maps a bit more than player count

[slender isle]

Boring

[fervent rose]

"boring" only if the maps are big and stupidly made

[humble helm]

128 players is ironically pretty empty since it's rarely ever full

[azure basalt]

yes it isnt impossible but more complicated to balance and map design

[slender isle]

What fucking servers are you on?

[copper ice]

i wish i could turn my brain off and enjoy poor 128p map design and balance

and networking

[humble helm]

Earth

[copper ice]

server performance

[slender isle]

Servers dumbass

[copper ice]

gunplay

[arctic grove]

64p flows well in 1

Generally because gunplay so there’s no reason nor much to profit from choosing ranged firefights so

[copper ice]

etc

unfortunately i have eyes

[fervent rose]

if the map isnt gigantic theres an absolute shit load of action in a 64 player match

[slender isle]

Unfortunately you just seem to see negativity in all of your life

[humble helm]

It at least doesn't feel full but I find an enemy once every 3 minutes one game and once every 10 seconds in another

[hybrid totem]

I wish you could too chunky, because you deserve to play something that doesn't piss you off

[copper fulcrum]

I usually get into a 128p server within seconds of pressing the button

[slender isle]

Pearl market? Good. Golmund railway? Bad. Zavod? Good. Shanghai? Bad.

[azure basalt]

ok here me out ok 64 player if wee have smaller map and good map design flow it feels like playing 128p with big maps

[humble helm]

Can't say. Game doesn't tell me when I matchmake

[dawn cedar]

man, this game really did turn into complete trash post tor tank

[slender isle]

Where are you? Europe? US?

[thick shadow]

I was obviously stuck with 64 players on ps4 last year, the day i got my ps5 i was pretty excited to try 128 players but the more i kept playing the more it became too chaotic for me lmao

[slender isle]

If it’s either one of those you’re just being stupid for stupid sake

[hybrid totem]

did it shoot you down again

[arctic grove]

It physically won’t work that way, but 64p can be chaotic

[copper ice]

I do the same with mordhau but there's enough upsides in mordhau to praise

[humble helm]

US, but again I could be in Saudi Arabian servers since there's no server list to join

[azure basalt]

128 its just to big and chaotic you pretty much getting shot from anywhere its so annoying getting hit/killed with camping sniper 200+m away

[fervent rose]

another great example is hamada or al snoozedan

[copper ice]

Coincidentally the worst parts of mordhau were also the stupid high pop servers that killed tickrate

[slender isle]

Ahh yes, cause playing with low ping 4000miles away is a common thing

[copper fulcrum]

Lancang Dam

[fervent rose]

but if you tell me Al Marj in bfv is boring, you're on something

that shit is action packed

[azure basalt]

fact.

[dawn cedar]

Manifold one on the hill, one dropped on crane, and they just spawn camp all armor, both playing irish and you cant do shit about it

[slender isle]

I’m in OCE and I get full matches… we’re the least populated region

[humble helm]

I never said low ping, just that it was empty feeling

[dawn cedar]

its just cancer, the game became way less fun after that shit got added

[slender isle]

So if the US ain’t getting them then I have no clue

[copper ice]

i really just wish 2042 was good

[thick shadow]

128 VS 128 next battlefield pls dice thx

[copper ice]

battlebit is doing 128 v 128

[hybrid totem]

have you tried c5

[thick shadow]

Gonna be playing on ghost recon wildlands map size

[copper ice]

there's your chaos future gaming

[slender isle]

Yeah but you get 0 action

[azure basalt]

sorry for giving you high expectation

[slender isle]

When I played the playtest it was basically squad

[hybrid totem]

I dunno man battlebit looks too much like minecraft. Good proof of concept I guess

[arctic grove]

It doesn’t even necessarily have to be high expectations. Foundational firing input doesn’t even work lol

That’s not a good game

[azure basalt]

yeah its easy to run cuz how low poly it is

[humble helm]

I'm just saying since it's hard to tell ping in a big server it's hard to tell whether it's netcode or just the game

[azure basalt]

you can't do that with battlefield

[fervent rose]

battlebit's no savior for anyone that likes bf gameplay

[copper ice]

128p doesnt even work for battlefield

[slender isle]

Wdym? You just hold tab and look at your ping

[azure basalt]

battlebit is no way near like battlefield

[fervent rose]

its just squad with a little bit more movement

[copper ice]

that didnt stop them

[azure basalt]

really hate the healing system

[hybrid totem]

battlebit neglected the fuck out of vehicle play too

[humble helm]

I swear I'm not tweakin, where

[copper fulcrum]

Next to your name and rank

[copper ice]

idk i shot a tank with an rpg in battlebit and it died
that automatically puts it ahead of 2042

[hybrid totem]

yep, and the neglect doesn't bode well for when it does

[thick shadow]

Honestly i wouldn't mind if battlefield made like a cartoony shooter, same classic formula and just a different style

[slender isle]

Battlebit is basically a low poly ww3

[humble helm]

Top right corner or player list like logic would have it?

[copper fulcrum]

Tanks going down in one shot doesn't sound like a good time

[copper ice]

it was for me

[copper fulcrum]

Do you not see your banner?

[copper ice]

[fervent rose]

yea that sounds pretty cringe

[slender isle]

Sorry, the series is known for its looks, it would be killed by the people in this server

[azure basalt]

well people wouldn't like it

[fervent rose]

instant death for everyone in milsim

[humble helm]

I see the banner but I've never looked up there hard enough to think they'd put ping there

[copper ice]

horrible balance in favour of infantry is so much nicer than favour of vehicles

[azure basalt]

they will got shamed on with how shit the graphic is

[copper fulcrum]

I don't think so

[thick shadow]

Well bf heroes was different wasn't it?

[copper fulcrum]

Heroes was weird

[slender isle]

Maybe play more before putting shit opinions on then

[thick shadow]

Yet people loved it

[slender isle]

People didn’t like it lol

[humble helm]

It's like putting your keys on a random surface

[thick shadow]

Bro people loved it

[copper ice]

vehicle gets big guns

[fervent rose]

but the infantry gameplay in battlebit looks like really bad compared to your avg bf

[slender isle]

It’s like a cod clones gunplay

[fervent rose]

not worth

[humble helm]

I wouldn't have expected them to change the UI in such a way that is literally designed to show less at a glance

[copper ice]

it is, but its also pre-early access product by indie devs
2042 is a year after release

[quiet shell]

Why are the rush xl layouts so fucking awful would it not kill DICE to spend all of an hour to improve the layouts even a little.

[copper ice]

i had more fun with one than the othet

[thick shadow]

Who remembers the ui at launch

[slender isle]

It shows more at a glance tf you mean? You looking at the left side of your scorboard, you see your ping

Get your eyes checked man

[copper ice]

neither were good but i was expecting a hell of a lot more from one of them

[copper fulcrum]

Rush XL is just Rush layouts with like 4x more players, it's not designed to be organized at all lol

[copper ice]

rush xl isnt designed at all

[humble helm]

I am absolutely sure it's not there to my memory

[copper ice]

they went "chaos xD'

[fervent rose]

the rush layouts were completely neglected

[humble helm]

I'm being gaslit

[quiet shell]

Wouldnt kill them to make the layout slightly bigger

[thick shadow]

The atrocious bright cyan bar at the top of your screen whenever you lose sector majority

[copper fulcrum]

It's been there for quite some time

[slender isle]

You press tab, left middle of your screen

[thick shadow]

Be glad

[copper fulcrum]

Even at release, the number for ping was there, just in a different spot

[azure basalt]

yeah people love it just because it had more players to grind their t1 not how well the gameplay is

its seriously unbalance playing rush xl for attacking

[copper fulcrum]

There are people that do enjoy the actual chaos of it all, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing servers that do this when it's not a featured game-mode (See Squid-G)

[copper ice]

the secret of 128p chaos is that it hides how shit the gameplay is because omg chaos xDD

[slender isle]

Me

[thick shadow]

Imagine a bf game where you can customise your ui/hud with the ones from previous titles

[copper fulcrum]

Imagine a game where you can do that without modding

[slender isle]

Quick question, if you fucking hate this game so much what’s the point in even touching it with a shit stained stick?

[copper fulcrum]

The only time CoD gets anywhere near the chaos is with Shipment, and that's one map lol

[hexed mango]

[azure basalt]

lol

[copper ice]

it was the same with mordhau, people wanted the 40 v 40 servers because it was chaotic and the server tick rate frequently dropped under 20 because it couldn't handle them

[thick shadow]

Mannn i started to hate shipment

[copper ice]

i unfortunately happened to like battlefield enough to get a years subscription to ea play to test it out

[fervent rose]

i think all of the shipment gameplay has truly ruined cod players

[thick shadow]

A year sub?

[slender isle]

So why not play… oh idk… bfV? 1? 4? 3?

[thick shadow]

How much is that

[copper ice]

now i am left with a hole in my wallet and a list of complaints in my other wallet

[slender isle]

Just cause you paid to play it doesn’t mean you need to play it

[copper ice]

bfv is full of hackers, bf1 is also full of hackers, bf4 and 3 are old now and ive no interest in going back to them

[slender isle]

I have like 4 years worth of backlogged games in my steam account

[copper ice]

i dont play 2042 anymore im just complaining about it

[slender isle]

Then shut up 🙂

[hexed mango]

ea play basic is $30/y
ea play pro is $100/y

[copper ice]

you could just ignore me

[copper fulcrum]

EA Play Pro gives you all of the DLCs iirc

[thick shadow]

Why is ea play like 25

[copper ice]

no need to be rude

[thick shadow]

Tf

[copper fulcrum]

It's per year

[thick shadow]

For a year

[copper fulcrum]

By the way, if you get Xbox Game Pass, you get EA Play too

[hexed mango]

ea play is $5/month regular and $15/month pro

[slender isle]

I’m just confused why you’re just here to throw down negativity constantly when you don’t even play the game anymore. It’s stupid

[fervent rose]

you dont need to be so defensive

[thick shadow]

I expected them bitches to charge you 119 each year

[hexed mango]

[fervent rose]

2042 aint your baby

let chunky rant

[copper ice]

because i can save other people from making my mistake

[hexed mango]

2042 is actually my baby :)

[copper fulcrum]

It's not a mistake lol

[copper ice]

also because the most fun i get out of 2042 is complaining about it

[thick shadow]

Define save

[hexed mango]

isnt there always

[humble helm]

I swear to god that spot just feels too wrong for my brain to pay any attention

[azure basalt]

isnt 2042 have a 75% discount ?

[hexed mango]

i havent even been talking constantly for like a couple months and my first time back is the same as always- an argument

[warm stirrup]

The difference with squid g's mode is his has vehicles

[copper ice]

i get to have the ethical high ground AND have fun at the same time and i dont even have to have it installed

[copper fulcrum]

"high ground"

[arctic grove]

It’s generally chill now

[fervent rose]

so he made it even worse

[copper ice]

I should be thanking 2042 really

[thick shadow]

@copper ice What's your favourite game atm

[hexed mango]

ig change is possible

[arctic grove]

We’ve collectively reached a consensus that 2042 is just

Bad

So it’s been jaded

[slender isle]

You should go get a better life if the only enjoyment you get is from being negative

[hexed mango]

lol

[humble helm]

In pretty much every MP game I've ever played they showed ping on individual players in the list instead of a block

[hexed mango]

i only place like once a week when im not consumed by school, coding, or jedi survivor

[copper ice]

Crystal Project

[thick shadow]

Game is fkin trash cuz

#gangshit

[copper fulcrum]

Focusing on something you hate for extended periods of time is likely grounds to get you some kind of mental/emotional problem in the future

[thick shadow]

Jk

Idk that game

[slender isle]

This is like me going into a COD channel, complaining that mw2 sucks, and then not having played it since January

[arctic grove]

I rarely log on to actually play. Just FOMO rush my battle pass on Monday to avoid the bonus expiring then log off till next Monday

[humble helm]

JRPG 💀

[hexed mango]

real

[copper ice]

when they actually update the game my opinions might stop being relevant

[arctic grove]

I haven’t genuinely logged on to play since like, season 3 started

[thick shadow]

Bro ion play jrpg

[copper fulcrum]

The game does get updates every month

[hexed mango]

lol i alr finished the bp a while back i just dont care about getting the badge

[thick shadow]

Dont gimme that skull

Ill kiss ur toes

[humble helm]

So not ethical high ground, but emotional damage high ground

[copper ice]

Updates that actually change things

[copper fulcrum]

Emotional damage!

[warm stirrup]

Anyone know what's being fixed in the maintenance in 3 hours?

[humble helm]

No it's the fact that it's a jrpg that makes it 💀

[arctic grove]

I WANTED to play for that in season 1 but that’s when the games badge progression was glitched and bullshit so I never felt the same since about them

[hexed mango]

while i still enjoy the game its just like boring after a few rounds ... maybe cause i have nearly 2k hours on the game 💀

[hexed mango]

i still got it :)

[thick shadow]

They're shutting down the servers permanently

[slender isle]

Like 5.0?

[copper fulcrum]

2k hours is a lot for a year old game

[arctic grove]

5.0 has some interesting things in it admittedly

[hexed mango]

yeah i know

[humble helm]

Everyone knows JRPGs are only fun if you like pokemon

[copper fulcrum]

and I have more than that lol

[hexed mango]

seasons 1-3 were a different me

[slender isle]

Probably latency or having more server slots for the influx of players EA think are coming with S5

[slender isle]

500 for me

[copper ice]

yeah! The one thats gonna make Irish irrelevant against infantry and still op for tank camping

[copper fulcrum]

I don't even know what a JRPG is

[copper ice]

I love that change

[slender isle]

School took me away lol

[quiet shell]

Friend of mine received a DICE survey about 2042 and they asked how he would describe DICE's feedback to improving the game and he described it as "DICE receives some of the best essays on improving the game, and then reads every 3rd word and rolls with that."
I think thats as accurate as it gets

[warm stirrup]

Japanese Role Playing Game

[slender isle]

You shoot 1 rocket, then wait 2 seconds, then shoot another and it’s damaged

[fervent rose]

5.0 is gonna be a shitshow of a patch if they dont do a wide pass on explosives

[copper ice]

two aps

[next onyx]

Explosive spam oh boy.

[copper fulcrum]

I can't remember the last Japanese game I've played, or if I ever played a Japanese made game

[hexed mango]

hi way

[fervent rose]

zain, scatter, wooo

[hexed mango]

emp sundance :))))

[quiet shell]

The scatter grenade should just be outright removed

[arctic grove]

No

[next onyx]

Oh I forgot they lost their EMP greandes.

[thick shadow]

Jolibees. Revolution. Pumpkin. Great Britain

[warm stirrup]

Final Fantasy?

[arctic grove]

Literally no

[hexed mango]

[quiet shell]

I would rather Sundance just gets 3 regular grenades

[copper fulcrum]

nope.

[next onyx]

Assault doesn't have EMP anymore either.

[copper fulcrum]

Way got a new pfp

[hexed mango]

quite an observation there bodie

[next onyx]

They should just block Sundance from using lethal grenades and give them back 2 scatters.

[copper ice]

they're removing emp from assault?

[fervent rose]

wut

[azure basalt]

its damn useless

[copper fulcrum]

Assault hasn't had EMP since the class rework

[next onyx]

EMP was removed from assault in 3.2.

[azure basalt]

i never EVER see someone using emp grenade

[slender isle]

Assault doesn’t have emp, thought only engineer does

[azure basalt]

holy shit

[hexed mango]

Uhm acktually

[copper ice]

oh yeah it has flashbangs

[next onyx]

EMP has its niche.

[copper fulcrum]

Engineer and Recon get EMP grenades

[next onyx]

Support too.

Weirdly.

[copper ice]

sorry i forgot about the worst grenade in the game

[next onyx]

9 bang lol.

[copper fulcrum]

9 Bang sounds like a cartoon attack

[thick shadow]

128 game mode where players have to capture flags by teabagging in the sectors instead of standing

[slender isle]

Im a fan of the emp, let’s me bum rush a tank without getting murdered by the AI in the gunner seat lol

[warm stirrup]

Remember when sundance had aa, scatter and emp grenades? And 2 each?

[copper ice]

im glad i wasnt here for thay

[azure basalt]

oof this one is really annoying

those AI is really good using grenade pods

holy shit

[humble helm]

You walk in 2-8 directions and go through turn based combat, often watching cutscenes. They tend to have one of 2 stories; you kill the evil big guy, or you become world champion of a hotdog eating contest

[hexed mango]

bodie how's the weather down under

[hybrid totem]

I always wished you could build sundance's grenade belt

[copper fulcrum]

Sundance's EMP grenades were interesting, it was an EMP grenade that kept on going for a few seconds

[hybrid totem]

you want 5 frags, go for it. You want a variety, have fun

[copper fulcrum]

That does not sound fun

[humble helm]

I try, thanks

[slender isle]

Damn right

[copper ice]

(crystal project barely has a story and has 360 directional movement with platforming btw)

[slender isle]

This ain’t off topic

[copper fulcrum]

(I don't know what Crystal Project is)

[copper ice]

they asked first!

[copper fulcrum]

It sounds like a meth gang

[slender isle]

Local drug ring

[copper ice]

its okay, I'll get back to complaining now

[thick shadow]

Lmfao

[slender isle]

Crawford is close enough

Must’ve Sold drugs at least once

[humble helm]

Waltuh welcome to the crystal project

[thick shadow]

Andrew tate as a specialist

[copper fulcrum]

Wasn't Boris an Arms Dealer?

[slender isle]

Crawford was

[copper ice]

what did he deal in, peanuts?

[warm stirrup]

Crawford works in the black market

[slender isle]

Boris was a part of the Ukrainian military before it collapsed

[humble helm]

That is

[slender isle]

He did

[hybrid totem]

crawford's voice lines are kind of a troll when he's destroying vehicles lol

[copper ice]

mans in the black market and all he can keep for himself is that shitty turret?

[slender isle]

Not anymore

[humble helm]

Surprisingly relevant

[slender isle]

He’s actually an M16 operative undercover to take down the black market 🙂

[copper fulcrum]

That's irrelevant to what we're saying

[copper ice]

An m16 operative isn't very no-pat of him

[quiet shell]

So he fought in the current ukraine war?

[thick shadow]

Send this to putin to make him feel better

[slender isle]

Something like that yeah

[humble helm]

All men, women and children need some form of M1

[hybrid totem]

I can't wait for the changes they're gonna make in season 5!

[copper fulcrum]

"If this message gets 27 Russian Flag emojis..."

[slender isle]

Me too

[copper ice]

They do have m1, its called w &

[humble helm]

(Nothing)

[hybrid totem]

I wonder what "change vehicle loadouts" means?

[thick shadow]

🗿🗿

[copper ice]

the average blueberry never faulters

[slender isle]

W and what?

[copper ice]

m1!

[humble helm]

Just w &

[copper ice]

they are neutering the transports

[slender isle]

I’ll send the tldr hold on

[copper fulcrum]

They're making the Transports into just Transports

[humble helm]

Patent holder died before he could say what else

[hybrid totem]

You mean "bringing the transports into line with what we wanted from the start"?

[slender isle]

1. LATV and other transports lose all explosives but gain other guns (LATV gains AA cannons).
2. Wildcats in own category and upgraded AA
3. Bolte gains incendiary launcher in replacement of incendiary mines, also loses 30mm but gains 50mm. Gains detection pulse
4. Thermals for vehicle gunners (not main drivers) as a secondary choice instead of variable zoom.
5. Jets now have a better camera to make them feel less floaty.
6. Jets gain rocket pods
7. When using rear view camera you can now control the vehicle
8. New map gains AA as do the older maps

Oh and bolte has bullet proof glass

[fervent rose]

they said basically every vehicle is getting changed in loadouts

[copper fulcrum]

So what do the passenger seats do in the Transports now then? Spotter seats?

[elfin coral]

No he wasn’t

[slender isle]

They get non explosive weapons

[copper fulcrum]

Front-Mounted Machine gun then

[elfin coral]

He served as an engineer in the Russian army before everything went haywire

He was also a tanker

[fervent rose]

they are removing a lot of the explosive seats/guns and adding other options instead

[slender isle]

There’s concept art of him at the Ukrainian border in a tank

[hybrid totem]

you know what's funny about the "thermals for gunners"? The driver is the one who spawns the vehicle, so they will have to remember to go in an change their loadouts for thermal

[slender isle]

What else he doin 😳😳

[copper fulcrum]

What the Boris doin'?

[elfin coral]

He wanted to be a pilot but that dream got shot down because he’s colorblind

[fervent rose]

i think it just comes with the machineguns

[slender isle]

RIP

[copper ice]

i love that they're adding stationary AA after redoing the maps and not stationary TOWs

[fervent rose]

you have access to both its a new button

[copper ice]

still no way to fight tors

[hybrid totem]

"New map gains AA as do the older maps"

This I didn't hear. I heard they were adding AA only to the new map

[slender isle]

Devs made it sound like it’s another choice instead of variable zoom

[humble helm]

Butta boris
Boris wit da butta on em

[hybrid totem]

I bet it's a loadout option

[slender isle]

And older maps, that’s what I heard in the podcast at least

[copper ice]

we'll have to wait for them to give their clearer patch notes

[slender isle]

Or dev notes

Whichever one

[hybrid totem]

I'm sure they'll omit a whole bunch, they always do

[fervent rose]

Yea they said they might add them to older maps, pretty lame

only the new map gets the c-ram..

[slender isle]

I think it depends how it works on the new map

If player reception is positive it’ll go to other maps

[humble helm]

Me in 2042 wondering wtf I'm doing in France

[copper ice]

if there is a tor within 100m of you as rao it throwing

[slender isle]

We in france?

[fervent rose]

the best change so far though is dedicated wildcat category

[humble helm]

FR THO

[fervent rose]

finally.