battlefield-2042

[fervent rose]

but that cpu can push well over 100 fps with a newer card

[carmine rover]

i cant wait for a weekly 128 tdm server

im immediately turning off crossplay and playing against bots

t1 all guns

[still mirage]

48 players is a great tdm mode

It ain’t that damn chaotic

Still got flow

[fervent rose]

they should maybe rework the tdm layouts one of these days

[still mirage]

Discarded tdm should now be in the scrap yard area

But they fine now 48 players had so much flow and so much fun

Hours and hours of play

So juicy

[hybrid totem]

add more player
We have to rework the maps to-
NO REWORK! JUST ADD MORE PLAYER

[spring yew]

+1 i moved to linux because i prefer it but i can only play the older bf titles which are amazing but i would like to play the new one as i have gifted the game to my friend who is on windows because its on sale atm

[dawn cedar]

when it seems like everyone on the other team is playing liz and instant destroys every piece of armor you have while your team is full of sundance

just sitting infront of your uncap

[odd yew]

[manic pagoda]

Yeah I see that thing all the time now. What do the circle thingys mean?

[carmine rover]

its ping

[manic pagoda]

Oh

Sometimes there are two circles and 3 boxes and they can be an assortment of yellow and red

[slender isle]

3 boxes is frame latency I believe

On the network side

[sterile canyon]

Mine way worst then yours ;c

[carmine rover]

prove it

[sterile canyon]

ok

[manic pagoda]

TY. I figured it's not necessarily the internet. I just have a really old pc that needs to be upgraded

[carmine rover]

ill like to see you try and beat this..

[slender isle]

The circle is internet though. It’s saying that it’s taking too long to complete the cycle

[manic pagoda]

Oh gotcha

ty

[tired forge]

Do not kills count towards unlocking attachments and other guns?

[slender isle]

Unless it says assists count they don't count

Like Sundances nades say "assists and kills" while attachment unlocks just say "kills"

[fresh cairn]

Late as fuck reply but ye I have

Kept getting the issue so I full killed off the driver and reinstalled it

Game just doesn't like Media or well anything in the background

[next onyx]

Weird part is that I always end up having discord and sometimes an internet explorer running in the background.

[fresh cairn]

It's just gotten real bad from the last game update or the one before I forget when

[next onyx]

Weird cause we practically have the same set up.

[fresh cairn]

Yea same I'll have Cys stream up and it was fine till a lil bit ago

Like the games always been volatile

But somethings made it fucked

[next onyx]

The only thing I can imagine fucking you over is your resolution but that can't be it.

[vivid inlet]

Is there fsr in bf2043

Bf2042

[next onyx]

1280x720 wtf connor.

Wait no wasn't it 1280x1080?

Still. For you to get these issues is weird.

[fresh cairn]

I played 1600x1024 but I'm 1920x1440 now

W I D E

[next onyx]

So you have your drivers and you're still having issues. This game is weird because people run better setups than me and they get worse performance.

[fresh cairn]

Yea I'm like full capped at 139fps as well which is odd

Cause I'd run around 158-175ish

[next onyx]

And you got rid of your clocks as well?

[fresh cairn]

An updated nerfed me reee

[next onyx]

Your custom clocks.

[fresh cairn]

Ye I don't run any clocks

I tried a month or so ago to see if the game isn't having hissy

Still does

So am all stock

[next onyx]

Have you cleaned up your PC since then?

Cause I feel like it's maybe a case of a shittone of background processes running.

[fresh cairn]

Maybe it was just one of the many 2042 days where it doesn't want to cooperate

[fresh cairn]

Like a month ago when I did a fresh windows install

[next onyx]

Yeah it could be.

The game very rarely bugs out on me.

Which I'm glad about but it's unusual.

[fresh cairn]

Only back up I made was if the install fucked out other than that every drive was wiped

Oh well games gonna stay like this unfortunately

[next onyx]

Hopefully it'll get better for you next update.

I've never gotten an error myself.

Just a hard close.

Vivid reminder on the fucking crashes back on bf5. -.-

[fresh cairn]

Like I'll get crashes at first I was like wtf now I'm like ehh 2042

But getting the whole "ReasonGetDeviceRemoved"

That's only been the past 1-2 months

[next onyx]

Like surely it can't be a GPU Issue, Right?

Cause if it's not crashing on anything else.

[fresh cairn]

Also wtf Noctua did a collab with ASUS for GPUs

Nah it won't be

[next onyx]

YEAH.

Noctua 3080.

[fresh cairn]

I'd get that crash error on other games if that was the case

[next onyx]

It runs super cool at full load.

[fresh cairn]

Prolly be quiet as fuck as well

[next onyx]

Yeah hahaha.

Dude.

Noctua 4090.

Turns into a 2 slot GPU and runs many, many times cooler.

[fresh cairn]

How to make the 4090 more chunky get good fans yes

[next onyx]

I wonder if most of the power goes into the cooling over the actual GPU HAHAHA.

You know.

I'd love to get a 7900xtx in a years time but I'm still very happy with my GPU.

[fresh cairn]

Noctuas are pre low on consumptions aren't they

[next onyx]

Uh they're more round efficient.

That's how I've processed them.

They just work because of how they've been made.

Running super quiet most likely a combination of materials and techniques.

[fresh cairn]

I still like how my GPU has a lil switch for silent and performance

Or just in the middle for nothing

[next onyx]

Wtf.

[fresh cairn]

That bitch has been on performance the whole time

[next onyx]

That would be the weirdest.

[fresh cairn]

It's a physical switch as well I like

[next onyx]

Sweet lord it's big.

[fresh cairn]

Dude is so fucking L A R G E

[next onyx]

Oh nah I was thinking like a little light switch on your GPU for some reason HAHAHA.

Oh the sides.

[fresh cairn]

It sorta is

[slender trout]

what is fridaynightbattlefield - ultimate chaos?

[carmine rover]

why are u cheeseburger

[fresh cairn]

That lil silver thing has the switch

[next onyx]

We dunno what FnB will be tonight.

[fresh cairn]

lil black square

[slender trout]

is it different every firday?

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[fresh cairn]

I've yet to play a FnB

[next onyx]

They're alright.

They're usually dead because OCE.

[fresh cairn]

Way and I = Farming

[carmine rover]

@sterile canyon

[fresh cairn]

I'll VPN us into NA West

[slender trout]

today was the first time I noticed it, what changes in it?

[next onyx]

OH SWEET JESUS.

CONNOR.

There's a noctua 4080.

It's usually randonmised.

[fresh cairn]

NAH THATS JUST A WHOLE CASE

[slender trout]

yeah but what is randomized

[next onyx]

To be fair.

They're actually quite small.

[slender trout]

theres nothing wrong with being small

[fresh cairn]

Like I still needa get a GPU stand for the 3070 to stop sag

Imagine how heavy the 40s would be

[next onyx]

We don't know what's coming for FnB.

Yeah.

To be fair they're more wide.

It's a shame that my case won't fit a 5080, Probably.

I just need to get a really specific GPU to fit in.

[fresh cairn]

Yea I might switch to DDR5 n all that when the 50s drop

Full massive upgrade instead of bit by bit

[next onyx]

Definitely.

Thinking about it.

I think Cy just wanted a massive upgrade since he's been on the same hardware for ages.

5800x with a 5700xt, then to a 3080. Now he's jamming on next gen.

It's kinda crazy.

[fresh cairn]

Especially cause he got the Heavy machinery moneys

[next onyx]

And now his x3d is sitting on 50% apparently.

Yeah.

AMD is so fucky because I like their products but the thing that's keeping me on nvidia is their reflex.

IT's such a crutch.

It's why we keep to their CPU's.

[fresh cairn]

I just perfer Nvidia over AMD cards

[next onyx]

Do reckon there's less to stress about too.

[fresh cairn]

Their CPUs are hard to pass up for the price to performance

[next onyx]

Their x3d's definitely.

That reminds me.

Will you be looking at a 9800x3d?

[fresh cairn]

Considering the 7950X3D is 1.2k probably not

But I'll jus wait for the 50s anyway

[karmic egret]

AMD drivers were completely rewritten

[next onyx]

Usually the R7's are much cheaper and perform round about the same.

[karmic egret]

Next gpu im getting is an AMD one

[next onyx]

Cy was a bit silly to get a 7950x3d but he's definitely set for a long ass time.

[gritty tapir]

dmrs are so good but my god the ammo limit is ass

[fresh cairn]

Nah I reakon it was a smart investment he won’t need to update his rig for a while now

[next onyx]

Yeah for sure.

[fresh cairn]

Unless he just wants a monster of a rig

[next onyx]

Dude has all the cores, threads and 3d cache he'll ever need.

[fresh cairn]

Imma be big brain and actually pre order a 5090 when you can so I don’t get scalped

[next onyx]

5090 fuck me.

[fresh cairn]

Unless they get announced like tmr

[next onyx]

I was gonna get a 5080 dude hahahaha.

[fresh cairn]

Nah I want my Case to just be a fridge cause it’ll be fuckkng massive

[next onyx]

Just have your GPU hanged under your air conditioner.

[fresh cairn]

I fuckkng wish I had AC

[next onyx]

Skill issue.

[fresh cairn]

Got trusty windows and Mother Nature for my cooling

[next onyx]

Dude.

Imagine the people living in the northern hemisphere.

They literally have free cooling.

[fresh cairn]

Not fair

[next onyx]

Just give it protection so the snow doesn't get in and melt.

[fresh cairn]

Some random Siberian bloke just opens a window

10° on full load

[next onyx]

AH YES MY GPU IS NOW 20C.

Here we open our windows we set everything on fire.

[carmine rover]

is dis true

[fresh cairn]

At least it’s cooling down now so my temps are gonna drop

Summers always a pain cause I’m upstairs

[next onyx]

LOL.

Yeah.

Kek moder.

[carmine rover]

meow

[next onyx]

You know. I forgot the 7900x3d existed.

[fresh cairn]

50 less

[robust vapor]

explosive GPU when

[fresh cairn]

Lower number = badder

[robust vapor]

replaces C5

[next onyx]

It's so good having a choice though.

[carmine rover]

immersive

[next onyx]

Like oh you game? Just get x3d.

[carmine rover]

when i blow up in game i blow up in real life

[fresh cairn]

Provolone and Heroin is so good

Wait

Not like that

It’s a song

[next onyx]

Though I think they should just keep to 7800x3d.

Yeah?

[fresh cairn]

The real stuff prolly good as well

[next onyx]

Hmm.

I could give my case more life by getting a two fan GPU.

[errant scarab]

each battlefield in portal should have its own hud not all with 2042... i'm just saying, it would have more identity

[robust vapor]

I just joined into an endgame screen and an AI got 58 revives

[dapper river]

every time I think about visiting australia I remember spiders then I no longer have any desire to visit australia

[carmine rover]

spiders are everywhere

[worthy inlet]

Huntsman's are the worst and y'all have them in America too

Snakes are the real thing to be worried about in aus

[carmine rover]

no.. its the australians

or Emus

[bronze sand]

my game just froze mid mission, is that normal? 😕

[sterile canyon]

that was my screenshot i send

[gritty tapir]

mackay lmg is filthy

[hybrid totem]

it rarely freezes at opportune moments

[rocky sentinel]

what should i be using if i want to focus on taking out tanks cause it seems like no one else in the game wants to lol

[hybrid totem]

other tanks

RPGs/mines/c5

helis

[jovial jay]

nice but when is the new Florida update

[hybrid totem]

after a couple years maybe
In the meantime we'll all get rose colored glasses about 2042

[acoustic seal]

been waiting since bf3

bf1 almost had a point with stacking first shot spread multiplier if they didn't want to reign in bursting but that's all i'll give them credit for

[karmic egret]

yes

[chrome moss]

Is there any Milsim Groups active in BF 2042? I used to be in one back when i played BF4. Was just wondering if its a thing still.

[robust vapor]

Air Superiority really happened

lots of jets

[woven acorn]

64 players or 128 players which do people prefer?

[karmic egret]

best part about havin a pc, personal heater

specially in winter

[woven acorn]

but in summer its hell

[karmic egret]

naw not really

[karmic egret]

i just increase the intake fan speeds

cooler temps for some stupid reason

[woven acorn]

2042 is as far as you're gonna get from mil sim fps

Keep coming back to 2042 but thinking about switching back to bf V

It's been a thing in most battlefields but I feel like the team aspect in terms of giving out ammo kits and med kits just don't hold much weight in 2042, people are usually soloing or dying so quickly that those gear items are pretty pointless apart from using them on a personal level

maybe i should try and find a squad to play with

[chrome moss]

yea i only see people playing solo never as a team

[woven acorn]

its very annoying

like I said it's been an issue in most of the BF games but the pacing was usually a bit slower so people would be forced to bunch up

now theres so much variety in terms of movement people are spread out all over the place

[acoustic seal]

would be a lot less of a problem if the maps had any flow to them at all

[dawn cedar]

people always ever played solo wym

unless you are zerging point to point

[acoustic seal]

sundance can't bring a spawn beacon and mackay is limited to crawling on rooftops in otherwise usual places, movement isn't the problem people seem to think it is

would kill to have a bunch of the stupid verticality cut out of the maps so it's not a worry at all

there doesn't need to be 20 levels inside the rocket building on orbital

[woven acorn]

battlefield has always prided itself on verticality, I enjoy it

[woven acorn]

the maps do need some kind of flow or distinct battle lines

[acoustic seal]

it was a major irritant in bf4 and cutting it out made bf1 play so much better

[woven acorn]

bf1 had a good balance I agree

[woven acorn]

but the verticality for me in bf4 added a lot of nice variety, if people just slowed down and checked windows or corridors it would be okay

the buildings in metro for example were great, had awesome times having firefights across the two buildings

and the flooded map was cool, could fight down at water level or up top. shanghai had the sky scraper which was awesp,e

have they still not fixed the black screen issue after matches have finished lmfao

[acoustic seal]

flood zone was peak dogshit map design, you were either playing on the coverless rooftops, ratting in windows, or trying to find a single person who made it down to ground level

DMRs everywhere

[woven acorn]

i agree the cover was awful on roof tops, but if that was solved I think it would be a great map

[dawn cedar]

bf4 aka shoot the white dot simulator

[next bay]

I think the EA customer support has got to be the most incompetent and infuriating customer support system I have ever spoken to. I sent a paste of the issue i've been having with battlefield 2042 into the live chat, and this fuckin guy said "As I understood, you are facing issue of crashing. Correct?"
Not a single time in that entire post did I mention crashing
like bruh they didnt even read the description of my issue
I am so beyond frustrated right now lmfao

[woven acorn]

DRMs were just the best weapons for the environment a lot of the time. SMGs were good for inside the building and on ground level

[woven acorn]

white dot?

[dawn cedar]

thermal

[woven acorn]

oh, i rarely used thermals

[dawn cedar]

everything had thermal, and if you were not using it you were at a disadvantage

[woven acorn]

I'm using them a lot in 2042 because my aim is just shite

my aim is still bad but at least I can see the target now

[woven acorn]

definitely people who were sweaty in the game which is a shame. should have their own server if they want to try that hard imo. I preferred bf3

[warped bramble]

Hey you ever play battlefield 2042 and realize the meaninglessness and absurdity of life and no one knows why we are here and we'll all die soon and stop existing forever and there most likely isn't anything after this or purpose at all?

[left hollow]

yep and then you develop the indomitable human spirit

also the mcs800 shotgun isnt awful if you can hit your shots

[acoustic seal]

had more of this in bf1 where the game wasn't totally random and unpredictable nonsense

[left hollow]

ive been playing around with it for a little bit and its super good on maps like stranded in the ship

[acoustic seal]

you ever try to carry teams in that game? fucking sisyphean nightmare

[fresh cairn]

Bruh the M16 is gonna be so busted

I didn't realise they said what attachments it's getting

[woven acorn]

deep

[karmic egret]

yeah 128 players the land of sweats

like ashe

[robust vapor]

The MCS is better at range than NVK for sure

Good on stranded, exposure, manifest

[left hollow]

Nvk is super fun aswell

I think its best with slugs

[robust vapor]

NVK is a close up beast

On mah way to T1 nvk

And then Rorsch

[lone imp]

does anyone know the person named "assault?"

[fresh cairn]

He's legit

If you're gonna call him out for cheats

[lone imp]

no im not

i just asking

cause he's always in my games

[fresh cairn]

Welcome to OCE

We have 1 server at all times

[lone imp]

and sometimes none

[spare quest]

just move to america or europe smh

[final plume]

Tier 1 Mackay Skin body + Surface Tension headgear looks so damn badass like damn

[ember rampart]

Hi guys, just wanted to ask, if I've completed battle pass without Premium, and now I would buy premium, do I get automatically all these levels items that were for Premium only? Thank you

[lone imp]

usually games with battlepasses will allow you to collect all locked premium items after purchasing premium. i don't think 2042 any exception

[lone imp]

i got 18 kills and he had 16 at one point of a game

guess im better

i think

(i got 30 and he had 60+ at the end)

[robust vapor]

Nom on @lone imp

Sometimes if you need to, change targets

Anything that gives you easier kills

[lilac linden]

Good morning everyone! How are you all today?

[woven acorn]

the amount of people that don't look at the mini map... lord give me strength

[arctic grove]

You will. I did the same thing. Thats what I always do incease I don't manage to get it done in time (which is very easy on BF2042) I don't lose my money

[vivid inlet]

I am enjoying bf2042 alot

I like the ttk

And its smooth

[wraith moon]

im downloading the game finally its on sale

for 15 dollars what a steal

[vivid inlet]

No gamepass?

[lone imp]

yeah the gamepass is a steal

[wraith moon]

no gamepass

[vivid inlet]

Oh

I dont buy games over 5 $ 💀

I'm such a cheap ass

[wraith moon]

[next onyx]

FARM. FARM .FARM. FARM. FARM.

[lone imp]

damn

[robust vapor]

Farmville 2042

[misty briar]

nob stats

[naive quiver]

https://youtu.be/9vUnm659H5M

[robust vapor]

I would make an Enders meme vid

[misty briar]

next video : Re-Banned

3:36 man hes just somee big B not gonna lie

"haters"

[arctic grove]

Enders was on the verge of crying because he couldnt play for 7 days 💀 bro I only play on the weekends so thats nothing

[robust vapor]

He can play with himself

For those 7 days

[lilac linden]

Ayo? 👀

[robust vapor]

Better alternative than touching grass

KEK

[lilac linden]

True

[arctic grove]

💀

[robust vapor]

Man can go get some weed during that time too

[arctic grove]

Man can go out his front door

probably never gotten out of his parents basement

[low timber]

it ain’t much but it’s honest work.

[arctic grove]

crops have been harvested reall

[granite island]

"People who were banned for a month/year"

[warped bramble]

If you could teamkill in this game I'd be perma banned by now

I can't help myself

[vivid inlet]

Why aren't the people saying

That's it I'm ready for round two

Or I am not overly confident

Did they remove that dialogue

[arctic grove]

Yes

They indeed removed that corny dialogue

[arctic grove]

fr

[vivid inlet]

Oh

Nice

They look a bit more serious now

[slender isle]

It’s okay, the next day he said he didn’t care and was happy to not play the crap game that is 2042

[unique shoal]

hi everyone 👋

[robust vapor]

Also Air Superiority is out

Everyone flies a F35

[arctic grove]

They do but they were such an annoying theme and gameplay decision to make to begin with

[robust vapor]

No matter team

[slender isle]

Dirt and beards 🤭🤭

[robust vapor]

[mossy badge]

[robust vapor]

Fair I'd say

Until everyone gets to play the bird copter

[arctic grove]

Sundance c5, Lis, Mackay are top annoying contenders. Mackay because he’s class passives personified and the only specialist I consistently bother playing with unless I’m doing revives, Sundance for 0 effort tank flanks,

Lis

[slender isle]

Paik?

[arctic grove]

Oh definitely

I hate legal wallhacks no matter what

I’ll be trying to clutch a solo cap and boom, it’s all fucked up cause someone playing her

[arctic grove]

He did not look happy tho 😭

[slender isle]

I just like them thinking I don’t know where they are

But they pop up on the minimap like idiots

[slender isle]

Oh well 🤭

[robust vapor]

Paik hates minimaps

The best strat against her

[arctic grove]

I’m glad she’s useless now

[placid echo]

I wouldn't say that

[candid mist]

Good morning

[rich elbow]

I miss pre-nerf paik

[quaint vector]

Same

[wary portal]

After I finished season 4 bp I just came back playing bfv and I'm getting better.

Pc or consoles?

I'm on a ps4 slim.

[slender isle]

We all do. To play of course

Versing her is another story

[wary portal]

Lucky me

Nothing bad happens to me except fucking lags.

[next onyx]

Fuck pre nerf paik.

[wary portal]

Guys still play console bfv? I am right now.

[wary portal]

Playing Bf 2042 helps me be better in bfv idk.

[next onyx]

Uggggghhhhhh

[glass shard]

Idk why but the playlist for FridayNightBattlefield last night was amazing

Combination of 2042, BC2, and BF3 was awesome

[misty briar]

ye

nothing is more fun than tanks being marked as lil birds on the map

[still mirage]

PLZ BRING BRING BACK 48 PLAYER TDM

PLLZZZZZ

[pliant wigeon]

oh yeah,last night's playlist was fun

[meager girder]

Crazy how noticeable input delay when you switch between cod and bf

Somehow the dimwits at cod are better at optimizing

[chilly jacinth]

Low input delay

But still runs like poo

[meager girder]

A price to pay for everything

[fervent rose]

yeah too bad everything in mw2 is intentionally slow

[meager girder]

Lmao cod and bf opposites rn

Bf is a quick 0-recoil game

Cod is a slow jarring recoil game

I’m glad nobody has told the dice devs about visual recoil

The cod devs made guns in game have more recoil than they do irl

It’s like the operators weigh and have the strength of a 5 year old

[mighty holly]

Your a celebrity now

[next onyx]

Battlefield fast pace COD slow pace.

How the tables have turned.

[mighty holly]

Indeed how the turns have tables

[spare quest]

[forest snow]

amount of people using the rm68 is just painful.

[misty briar]

a weapon made for the bots ye

since most ppl are bots

they use rm

[kindred flint]

took out 4 helis that match with lis

still lose

[fickle wharf]

My friend got blasted out of the pilot seat by rm68 yesterday lol

[kindred flint]

I find it funny the hinds windshield can be shot through

i mean balance reasons of course but still, its funny

[hushed lotus]

U a bot

[ebon pilot]

I think it's funny how you can kill the pilot by hitting a direct hit with a rocket on the pilot window

[forest snow]

some people going to struggle when its nerfed how they going to get kills? using that gun is a almost certain for 60-70 kills a game in conquest easy.

[hushed lotus]

I think it’s funny the amount of ppl that complain about the rm68 being for bots..sounds like them complaints calls for a reason for them to use it 💀 😭 🤖

[misty briar]

doubt

[kindred flint]

I mean if you cant get top kills on a regular basis with the rpt what are you even doing

[hushed lotus]

I’m semi new so yeah I prefer anything meta

But even in cod, if u wanna be the best u gotta use meta

[misty briar]

just as said, weapon made for bots

[hushed lotus]

Why wouldn’t u?

Sounds like bot talk

[ebon pilot]

because meta is boring

[misty briar]

if u gotta use meta to be the best ur literally just bad

as why i say its a bot weapon

[hushed lotus]

It’s not boring. That’s not what makes a player

[kindred flint]

reject short barrel m5 sweat combos, and embrace ak with standard extended

[hushed lotus]

Movement, repositions, rechallenges

That’s what makes a player

[ebon pilot]

honestly getting 70 kills with the RM just isn't that fun

30 kills with a crossbow? That's fun

[forest snow]

ew scum build for m5 ill stick with my high power, long barrel, lwg and scope

[hushed lotus]

I be dropping 100+ kills with the G57 pistol. Don’t @ me

[ebon pilot]

And challenging

[misty briar]

g57 is ez too

[forest snow]

g57 yea of course

[kindred flint]

heavy doubt on the g57 boast there ngl

[hushed lotus]

I’m just trollin, honestly just play whatever makes u feel happy.

[misty briar]

na

[hushed lotus]

I prefer having the edge in TTK. Idk why anyone wouldn’t

[misty briar]

rm is still for bots

cuz its just too easy?

[forest snow]

looking forward to it to be nerfed into the ground

[hushed lotus]

That’s fine, and then I’ll pick the next highest TTK weapon

[misty briar]

rm will get a nerf tho

[hushed lotus]

Fine w that

[misty briar]

ye sure

[kindred flint]

total side note...why are the fucking APS units so damn tanky, im over there like 100m away trying to spray one down with the rpt and it doesnt die dont say i should have just switched to single shot and like aimed...fuck that no one got time for that

[hushed lotus]

I was hoping they switched it up by now

SFAR meta legoooo

[edgy oriole]

when they first nerfed the turret i noticed how tanky the trophy system was

[kindred flint]

tugs is too tanky too, ima be real..that should be a 1 shot from a gun

[edgy oriole]

its like how does a turret die to 5 sidearm shots and trophy eats ar rounds

[kindred flint]

especially considering how smol it is

[hushed lotus]

Muhhh fuggas should be concerned about dozer shield abuse not the damn rm

Ok I’ll stop

[edgy oriole]

i think snipers can 1 or 2 shot it. but everything else it takes some elbow grease

[forest snow]

Already main dozer and looking forward to it

[edgy oriole]

shield abuse? just shoot his feet my guy

he turns like a wall jump over

[forest snow]

flashbang dozer and 12m

[hushed lotus]

Sometimes it works

Sometimes it doesn’t

[kindred flint]

Lol shooting moronic running dozers in the feet wont get old

[edgy oriole]

throw fire at em

[hushed lotus]

I feel like if u stick dozer with an sph he should die

Idk

[kindred flint]

...ok i might have also burned a mofo a time or 2 using the under barrel incendiary

[edgy oriole]

dozer a bomb specialist sorta. so that wouldnt make sense

[hushed lotus]

I gotta aim the sph at the toe 😭

[edgy oriole]

sph just shoot at the ground he standing on

one shot each side

[hushed lotus]

True true

[kindred flint]

ive legitimately gone a couple thousand kills i think since ive used an UB incendiary...should change that soon

[forest snow]

helps using the Amour plate with dozer too.

[next onyx]

SCAR at least wasn't this crazy.

Sort of.

[kindred flint]

everyone uses a gun for 10k kills in a row

[next onyx]

With a 49m max damage the SCAR wasn't that crazy.

74M was pushing it.

And the RM is literally the same gun except short barrel which breaks the gun.

[kindred flint]

why does the rm get such a range advantage vs like....LMGs?

[edgy oriole]

i usually just get attachments for guns and go back to m5 or pp. but if a gun too good like bsv or rm. ill t1 it and go back to m5

bc thats what the rm68 was literally built for

to answer your questions

[robust vapor]

I encounter dozers camping at the MCOMS in rush xl

all i need is an incendiary nade

and they'll move

[fervent rose]

they know all about it. bf1 was absurd on aggressively fake visual recoil.

[pine roost]

They just shimmied from side to side like it was doing the cha cha slide

‘Slide to the left,
Slide to the right,
Criss cross,
Criss cross’

[next onyx]

"FetusCrusher" is an allowed name but not Waygyanba.

Got it.

[edgy oriole]

prolly too many ay close to g

[lilac dust]

What the hell is the difference between 64 Conquest and Exodus Conquest?

[edgy oriole]

exodus is all maps i believe

[lilac dust]

Is 64 older maps only

[edgy oriole]

64 is 2042 maps only

i could be wrong tho

[lilac dust]

well that sounds lame lol.... I yearn for the day we get a playlist in AOW that is exclusively portal maps

We got flashback conquest occasionally in portal which was nice, but it so rarely makes an appearance

[edgy oriole]

last portal was fire

thats all i played until they just changed it

[lilac dust]

What was that? The world tour one?

[edgy oriole]

world tour and superiority

[lilac dust]

Yeah those were solid

[edgy oriole]

there was a 1942 rush game we had and it was both sides fighting at these 2 skinny sandbags

most fun 20 minutes ive had tbh

[willow sky]

i would play portal a lot more if bf3, bc2 and 1942 had unlockables

[dawn cedar]

i wish the attack chopper was atleast 60% faster, once you flare and you dont have cover you just cant do anything because MAA's can lock all the way from africa

[chilly jacinth]

just dive straight into the ground

[lilac dust]

Which attack chopper we talking?

[chilly jacinth]

so they cant see you

[dawn cedar]

apache

[lilac dust]

agreed then

[dawn cedar]

and then you get shot by a tor

[chilly jacinth]

just dont die to it

easy

[dawn cedar]

theres just always a game full of Liz that never use their rockets to kill MAA

the zuni's are so inaccurate less than 100 meters

[edgy oriole]

bc its easy to shoot her rockets with those and tanks

itll be a waste. and if you do get a hit its small damage

[dawn cedar]

if you go straight down onto them it makes no noise

[edgy oriole]

repaired in .2 seconds

here me saving a helo bc im a good teammate

[meager girder]

Doesn’t even come close to cod tho

[dawn cedar]

i think one of the biggest things attack helios need is an accuracy pass on their rockets. fingers crossed thats coming in season 5

[meager girder]

Feels like I’m riding a skateboard on gravel on cod

[lilac dust]

Also we desperately need battle of the bulge and el alamein in an exclusively portal maps only 2042 playlist. If there is no season 6 and beyond then I don't care if a bunch of people hate those 2 maps. Just give people the option to play them cos the game will forever lack maps

[dawn cedar]

like your telling me that you have a laser guided tow but not the pivoting rocket pods 😦

[meager girder]

Not likely to be done

The devs aren’t very interested in player oriented map rotations

Hence why the keep trash glass in the game

[willow sky]

if only portal were more popular, people would get the finest rotations they'd desire

[meager girder]

or a server browser

Notice that the devs never ask players about what they think about the maps

[edgy oriole]

if bt was in portal i think it would be more popular

[meager girder]

it’s sad 2042 portal maps are ok

[lilac dust]

Is there really no portal servers made that have something cool like every single map in the game including portal maps with 128 players on conquest?

[edgy oriole]

devs has asked players what they think about maps

thats why they reworked them

[fiery shoal]

there have been several surveys specifically asking about maps..

[meager girder]

But it looks like we’ll have to play 2042 with shit maps forever

[fiery shoal]

dude.. grow up

[willow sky]

people make a shit ton of those but everyone goes straight to the farming ones or the 1000x dmg servers

[meager girder]

The only way they could salavage this shit is with Nuketown 😂💀

[willow sky]

lmao

[dawn cedar]

sounds like you want COD and not battlefield

[meager girder]

Nah

bf is better than cod

[fiery shoal]

preference

[meager girder]

🤯

[dawn cedar]

want every map to be 3 lane also?

[meager girder]

No that’s actually not a good idea

Ironically the devs at dice thought it was a good idea

3 choke hold hard points

[fiery shoal]

thats what nuketown is though

[keen karma]

season 5 is not yet?

[meager girder]

obviously that’s not gonna happen

You can’t fit 64 players on Nuketown

there isn’t 64 spawns

[fiery shoal]

...

what?

[meager girder]

not even 32 spawns

[fiery shoal]

i hope youre trolling for your own sake

[meager girder]

wait…

So someone might be joking that Nuketown with 64 players is a good idea?

🤯

Anyways

nah i just don’t think it’s coming maps are just a top tier issue for 2042 rn

[fiery shoal]

youve said so much ridiculous shit its hard to tell whats serious and whats not

[meager girder]

you’d think if there was like a killer hotfix coming there would be dice bragging about it like they usually do

but no

[copper ice]

we cant have nuketown in 2042 because nuketown had houses

[meager girder]

so it’s pretty grim

[copper ice]

2042 has no houses

[willow sky]

i dont get it, is nuketown good for 2042 or bad?

i-

[fiery shoal]

its a horrible idea

[willow sky]

😵

[meager girder]

💀

[copper ice]

its a great idea because then they can reuse the house model on different maps

instead of 5 million shipping containers

[meager girder]

honestly it might be fun as a gag

But not an actual mode

[lilac dust]

2042 has MORE THAN ENOUGH close range maps / modes to allow for close range. We need MORE large maps

[willow sky]

i mean...can i point out that theres a TDM mode....

im nervous now

[copper ice]

things no one has ever said for 10

[fiery shoal]

i just play conquest and play sections i want to. theres nothing saying you cant just play cqc areas in even open maps

[lilac dust]

Exactly

[fiery shoal]

same with the other way around, most infantry focus map still have large areas to them

[next onyx]

Unfortunately for the most part despite the fact they reworked the maps, THey didn't rework the spawns.

& general logic.

[meager girder]

Woah

[next onyx]

That's my biggest gripe.

[fiery shoal]

other than BT ive never had problems with spawns in conquest

[meager girder]

well

[next onyx]

I've had quite a lot of problematic spawns on conquest.

[meager girder]

I mean if you don’t like bad spawns just redeploy

[next onyx]

Kind of ironic because on BT they haven't been too bad.

[meager girder]

Easy solution

[dawn cedar]

Irish MAA's with a Rep bitch is going to make me quit flying in this game, i swear.

always 100% hp no matter what you do to them

[copper ice]

dont worry, the nerf wont change this

[next onyx]

I've had people spawn right in front of me.

In front of my gun.

[meager girder]

tuff

[fiery shoal]

redeploying does actually solve a lot of problems, but people dont want an arbitrary death for some reason so they suffer

[next onyx]

No one wants a death because of bad design.

[meager girder]

wow huh

[next onyx]

People don't want to feel cheaped out.

[edgy oriole]

one major one was when they first ruined manifest and made the fights start at the boats. the defenders literally spawned in the open and got farmed.

[meager girder]

crazy that players be wanting to not die from corny ass game design

[fiery shoal]

im also talking about spawning in a bad area by their own choice and then complaining they "have to walk super far"

[meager girder]

Es loco

[copper ice]

you could argue there should be less bad areas to spawn in

[edgy oriole]

oh i glanced over while watching youtube. didnt see rest of chat

[keen karma]

when is season 5

[willow sky]

I have an issue and its with squad spawning, you'll still deploy right next to someone who is getting shot the second u spawn

[copper ice]

which brings us back to nuketown

[willow sky]

and then i die

[fiery shoal]

kind of impossible...

[copper ice]

this is a universal battlefield issue

happened constantly in bfv too

[willow sky]

yeah its a pain in the ass

[next onyx]

Yeah. It was even less of an issue on 5 because of how they handled squad spawning.

But it still happened no matter what.

[fiery shoal]

if someone spawns B zone but no one is there, thats not a game design problem.. unless youre suggesting dice forces people to not spawn in uncontested areas...

[spare quest]

TDM moment

[next onyx]

Conquest.

[spare quest]

[mighty holly]

kek

[copper ice]

kill a guy, start reloading, his squad spawns on his corpse, swap to secondary, kill the guy, start reloading, third guy spawns on second guys corpse

pain

[next onyx]

You'll see it more on Arica harbour & Renewal.

[fiery shoal]

pretty sure its just a matter of them starting to get shot at the split second after you clicked to spawn on them.. which like.. what is dice supposed to predict the future?

[next onyx]

Not renewal.

Exposure.

You don't even have to go out of your way to find those spawns.

[meager girder]

actually they could

With AI

[copper ice]

if gun; then: nospawn

[lilac dust]

I'm so scared man. Season 5 is nearing closer and closer .... we still have complete silence on whether there's more content to come after 😭

[meager girder]

but that’s too much for dice

[willow sky]

I mean, its scripted so that you dont spawn when they immediately die, right?

[next onyx]

I could bring up other maps but I haven't experienced it there.

[chilly jacinth]

noshahr also has a few funny spawn traps

[next onyx]

Oh yeah you're right.

[fiery shoal]

idk how its coded.. im just pointing out the scenario that likely happens when you spawn on a teammate getting shot at

[next onyx]

C RU side they spawn round about the edge and midway into E.

[fiery shoal]

i dont think people realize what they are asking to be coded when they complain about certain things...

[meager girder]

I don’t think people realize dice has also went backwards in capabilities

[fiery shoal]

people definitely realize that...

[meager girder]

so asking for something we didn’t have in previous games is absurd

[fiery shoal]

100% not the situation i was talking about

[meager girder]

well if they cant wrap their head around a server browser

The kinda stuff the mobile game devs from India do

I’m not sure they can do much at all rn

[fiery shoal]

yea definitely, they cant make a game that seemingly no one else can pull off, let alone attempt in the first place

[meager girder]

then again India tech institutes farm super talented no life kids

[fiery shoal]

not excusing things like a lack squad management, but there is credit due in certain aspects

[next onyx]

Knowing issues between portal and 2042 I wouldn't be surprised if there was some internal politics going on.

I mean Ripple and DICE.

[meager girder]

Internal politics is no question

It’s literally in all big tech/dev companies

the question is how it’s causing them to slow tf down

[next onyx]

They need to fix this shit man I'm so tired of it.

[meager girder]

google is probably 10x as worse but at least they get stuff done

Somehow

[next onyx]

I couldn't even imagine why they can't server browser done for AoW.

Is it worth the resources to port? Are certain members of the team against it? We don't really know.

[edgy oriole]

team is prolly against it

[meager girder]

😂

it reduces toxicity

source: trust the devs

[fiery shoal]

the enemy spawning?

[next onyx]

I'm not gonna pretend I'm a game dev or anything because I am clearly not. But something tells me there's more to it than just that.

Honestly with the dumb shit they're doing to combat "toxicity" just makes it more toxic.

The enemy spawning in front of me.

That literally shouldn't be a thing.,

[edgy oriole]

i mean theyve admitted they hate boris and want to make him literally do nothing instead of reworking him

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. thinking about what they would have to code to stop that would be insane though..

[next onyx]

I haven't even tripped a trigger to disable them from spawning there which resulted in me getting i nthat.

[meager girder]

It’s not about ending toxicity

[fiery shoal]

youd have to code in all players LOS in regards to geometry and what not to find spawns that will place them out of view?

sounds like a PITA

[chilly jacinth]

you dont have to account for los

[fiery shoal]

when the problem is "dont spawn players in front of people".. yea

[chilly jacinth]

proximity should fix most of em

[meager girder]

yup

Well

maybe not in 2042

[next onyx]

They need to stop babying the community. Unless they really think of us like that.

[fiery shoal]

thats very likely already being applied

[meager girder]

Nah

[fiery shoal]

the dude DID spawn some 30m away

[chilly jacinth]

can confirm that it isnt

[meager girder]

I get dudes in front of me

Like inside of me

[fiery shoal]

you got source code?

[meager girder]

It’s not proximity

so either it’s broke or it’s not there

[next onyx]

There's pretty much no logic.

[fiery shoal]

ive hardly had situations where i spawn super close to an enemy when i spawn on objectives

[next onyx]

Asides from spawning checkpoints being taken up, With there being no failsafe.

[fiery shoal]

hell i complain i mostly get thrown way out of objectives

which imo is likely because of proximity spawns

[next onyx]

Try Arica harbour and to capture the bridge as the U.S. RU will spawn on the C end, Leading up to the objectives.

Without any cover.

[fiery shoal]

oddly specific scenario

ive just played the game in general and dont notice objective spawns putting me near enemies ever

[meager girder]

well if it wasn’t in general it would be a higher issue

[next onyx]

I just play the game and notice it from time to time. And abuse it.

[meager girder]

Me aswell

[next onyx]

Because fuck this. There's no honour to be had.

[meager girder]

I know I definetly placed c5 on spawns 2 meters from me waiting for a dude to spawn

[fiery shoal]

100% there are scenarios/places/etc where there are problems, but to suggest theres NO proximity spawn at all imo is a bit ignorant

[meager girder]

well then it must be broken then

[fiery shoal]

ill tell you a secret

[chilly jacinth]

some spawn points genuinely dont

[fiery shoal]

hardly anything is 100% in game dev

[next onyx]

They need to factor sight into it.

[chilly jacinth]

and its very clear that they dont

[fiery shoal]

like i said, that is a huge ask

like.. HUGE

[meager girder]

Well if I’m camping an open field spawn where they can spawn anywhere else and they keep spawning in front of me

It obviously isn’t working as intended

Ie boke asf

[ebon pilot]

the proximity is "are they on the objective"

[next onyx]

To be honest I'm not expecting DICE to care.

[meager girder]

Probably

[mighty holly]

If only Dice was based

[next onyx]

It feels like the only feedback that's taken serious is in regards to weapons and gadgets, Maps and niche scenarios just leave me feeling hopeless.

[fiery shoal]

it is very likely a super basic level of proximity spawn, like "dont spawn within 20m of an enemy" or like pizza cat said "dont spawn player in spawn if enemy is in it, if enemy is, spawn them outside of it"

[next onyx]

I'd love to get into Dice's offices and literally re do spawns as a whole.

Only if it were so easy.

[meager girder]

Illegal

[ebon pilot]

u know c++?

[willow sky]

I was more concerned about squad spawning, but yeah.

[fiery shoal]

LOS spawn formula would be hell for devs and solve a relatively minor problem.. definitely dont see that as a "worth" it scenario

[next onyx]

It be would it for even less frustrated players.

In an already frustrating game ripe with balancing issues in regards to weapons, gadgets and vehicles.

[meager girder]

well the minority of players who still play the game find it annoying

[fiery shoal]

i think thats just the nature of a large scale sandbox shooter

[meager girder]

Imagine players who don’t find the game playable

[next onyx]

I dunno C++ but I bet if I had the opportunity to do it I would.

[meager girder]

Most games don’t have just flagrant spawn issues like 2042 does, bad spawns are annoying for non-2042 players, which is what DICE is trying to bring over

[ebon pilot]

spoken like a true not-a-c++-dev

[willow sky]

learning how to program has never been easier thanks to AI

lmao

[next onyx]

I know balance will never be perfect in such a game. But you can always lessen the feeling of frustration for the players.

[humble helm]

Recoil is a huge thing for me

[fiery shoal]

idk it either, but just thinking of a formula to consider LOS spawn is already annoying.. and thats not even coding/actually implementing it

[next onyx]

I'd love to make a Terraria mod.

[meager girder]

They could just add insta respawn for spawn deaths

[humble helm]

Weapons feel too much like airsoft right now since you get like .006 degrees of it per shot

[meager girder]

wolves the irritation issue pretty easily

[next onyx]

A patapon weapon mod, Or a serious sam mod.

Oh that would help a lot definitely.

[willow sky]

Do it Way, I'd support your decision.

[next onyx]

Oh trust me I'd do it if I knew wtf to do ahaha.

[willow sky]

and it sounds fun

[fiery shoal]

like... for LOS spawn do you consider the type of weapon the player is using, the distance? will a sniper on top of a skyscraper in hourglass stop 99% of the enemies spawning on an objective?

[meager girder]

1 second insta respawn window would work fine

[humble helm]

A lot of weapons have no horizontal kick, which is especially bad since holding down allows you to laser across the map

[next onyx]

Guns don't have much vertical recoil either.

Nor spread.

[humble helm]

They dont have spread to my knowledge

They removed bloom

[next onyx]

If that were to be increased, Horizontal minorly I wouldn't mind.

[fiery shoal]

recoil in general is fairly minor, granted that would be expected with how big the maps are

[fiery shoal]

definitely has spread

[next onyx]

I miss it when the m16 had actual recoil.

[humble helm]

It definitely isnt a ton

[fiery shoal]

nope

which would sucks for a game with huge maps

[willow sky]

time to have some explosive fun in portal XL

[fiery shoal]

high vs low recoil is not a matter of which is better either, its preference

and id argue for an arcade casual shooter, low recoil is more in line with that kind of game

[humble helm]

BF1, BFV both have massive maps yet dont suffer this issue, I think its an issue of cover

[next onyx]

Recoil is pretty much non existent.

[humble helm]

The game is too fast paced to be open fields and no recoil

[fiery shoal]

well those are 64 player maps

and people complaing about bf1 mechanics all the time..

and bfv is like.. marginally harder to control than 2042

[next onyx]

Playing this game I understand understand why people want spread back.

[fiery shoal]

gross

[next onyx]

I don't want it back so aggressively.

[fiery shoal]

no RNG for me, even in casual titles

[next onyx]

But I genuinely understand.

[humble helm]

Why does a 128 player map have to remove literally every instance of point to point cover?

[hybrid totem]

so the lil birds can have a literal field day

[next onyx]

You shouldn't be able to pump down 30 to 40 rounds down range with barely any drawback.

[hybrid totem]

fuck lil birds

[fiery shoal]

typically just means the better shot should win

which is a pro in my book

[humble helm]

All Im saying is it would fix both maps feeling under developed and the issue with recoil basically needing to be non existent so marksman weapons can actually be fought

[pine roost]

just a smol bit

[fiery shoal]

imo the only con to weapons being accurate is that the niche for long range weapons/snipers is pretty narrow

[pine roost]

don't want weapons feeling awful

[next onyx]

Maybe so but again, There's nothing really stopping you from dumping 40 rounds with your SCAR being a complete dumbass.

[humble helm]

In experience, better shot wins isnt fun since that turns the game into valorant

[next onyx]

Same Bullet.

[fiery shoal]

its fun for me, considering 90% of the time im the better shot

i like being rewarded for my skills vs being hardcapped by range because of spread/recoil

[humble helm]

You lose out on recoil control, movement, use of cover, rapid decision making, etc

You limit gunplay to who can click heads better in an arcade shooter, thats just antithetical

[next onyx]

Back in BFH you really had to burst at a range, but it wasn't too bad because they killed quick.

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. speaking myself, i play bf titles to just fuck around, not to try to get deep in mechanics ill play any actual competitive fps for that

[next onyx]

I didn't mind it then because of the general TTK.

[spare quest]

[next onyx]

In this game I wouldn't mind the same where you had the power to take someone out a range but you couldn't be some braindead moron.

[elfin coral]

was 128 players a bad idea?

[humble helm]

Its the mechanics that make the game fun and the weapons diverse, instead of deciding the balance of 6 near carbon copies

[next onyx]

I'd argue it was yeah. I don't mind it but I won't be crying when it goes.

[elfin coral]

i'm on last gen so idk

[mighty holly]

Hear me out

Making it for last gen was a bad idea

[elfin coral]

enlighten me what's it's like on the other side

[next onyx]

Greater volume bullshit.

[elfin coral]

i'm too poor for a ps5 or pc

[next onyx]

Hey you know what actually.

This FNB was good.

[humble helm]

Like you cant really fuck around as much when weapon variety is in the types of weapons instead of the individual weapons

[next onyx]

The fact that we had Conquest and BT with persistent lobbies made me remember what it was like.

Back on bf5 when we got a new map.

[mighty holly]

Thats understandable but sometimes we got to make sacrifices for the greater good

[next onyx]

We would have a x 24/7 playlist.

1 x conquest, 2 x BT.

Constant action.

[elfin coral]

gimmie moni

[humble helm]

And that was great

[next onyx]

Al Sundan BT with the Sturmy boy meta.

I miss it.

[humble helm]

In this game you take your marksman assault rifle and blast 70 rounds across the map, killing 10 people

[next onyx]

It's why I wish they did the same for us. Did one featured playlist in the main menu like FnB with these things.

[mighty holly]

Hear me out
I got a plan but I need some god damn faith

[next onyx]

But it's not an FnB sorta thing.

It's just a cool ass weekly playlist where we can have a good old time.

[mighty holly]

all I’ll say is that the last part of the plan we’ll be out in Tahiti being mango farmers relaxing

[humble helm]

The NTW-50 in this game is my favorite weapon because it reminds me of the good ol daays

[humble helm]

JOHN WERE GOING TO TAHHHIITI

[mighty holly]

My plan is full proof

[next onyx]

SCAR is my favourite gun overall but I need to use it sparsely.

[elfin coral]

i have a better idea

[spare quest]

[elfin coral]

payday

[next onyx]

I'm literally almost there.

It's not painful but.

[humble helm]

Its loud, chunky, shoots slow, heavy bullets, and has a ton of recoil, but hits like a freight train

[next onyx]

The pain is almost over.

I can use something else. Maybe.

I might just finish it off and then pick it up again when it gets the attachments it's been waiting for.

[humble helm]

Whats the most American music for the M16A3

[next onyx]

I'm not familiar with such music.

Just run something like I dunno, The bf3 theme.

Cause that's the m16 in bf3.

[elfin coral]

and hardline

[willow sky]

are the desert skins worth it??

[elfin coral]

hardline theme fucking slaps

[humble helm]

Me when the

[next onyx]

Hardline's m16 was a different case. You'd just hear rap in the back ground, Or heavy rock.

[humble helm]

When the line is hard

[willow sky]

yooo its pretty hard to stay on the line

[next onyx]

Do da do da do da DODADOODAH.

[elfin coral]

[willow sky]

[next onyx]

Oh man.

I wish we got just simple mattes for our guns.

I wonder if I can press Alex on that.

Black matte, Or a navy matte.

[elfin coral]

bring back gun bench

[fiery shoal]

i like skill trees like bfv

pros and cons to weapons that made them feel unique

anything else just leads everyone to run the same attachments for the same guns

[next onyx]

What is that sound.

[copper ice]

full agreement with this

Running the same attachments on everything in 2042 was boring

[elfin coral]

probably one of the tankers choking on some dust

[torpid wadi]

Shame we’ll never get anything like her again

[turbid veldt]

they could add it to portal 🤔

[chilly jacinth]

a hiccup

[humble helm]

Just sucks that this is possibly the worst shooter sold for money out right now because of the refusal to delay the release until 2025 so they could work out the kinks

[copper ice]

wouldn't make as much profit

[keen karma]

hiccup

[next onyx]

It sounded like a vomit.

But I hear it now.

[humble helm]

I think it would make even more

It just wouldn't be instant

Like if it had the same hype assuming they'd wait to announce it, and with a great launch it'd get amazing reception, the game wouldn't have burned half as bright for a quarter as long as bf1, 4, or previous titles

[copper ice]

tons of people have still bought it

games don't need to be recieved well to make money anymore

[humble helm]

That's what makes the good ones special

The AAA industry is decaying

[jovial tusk]

good to see u again

[humble helm]

Titanfall 2 has almost as many players
Team Fortress 2 has 9 times as many

[jovial tusk]

any updates on 128 breakthrough?

[next onyx]

No.

[dawn cedar]

tf2 is mainly bots

[humble helm]

Despite that even if half the playerbase were bots

(It's closer to 10%)

It'd still have more human players

Even if 85% of the playerbase were bots, there'd still be more humans

[dawn cedar]

tf2 is also free and runs on a toaster

[humble helm]

Keep in mind the game is a decade and a half old, whereas 2042 lost as many players as tf2 has in the first year

[humble helm]

And despite that it's objectively a better game

[dawn cedar]

thats subjective

[clear hull]

testing

[dawn cedar]

and this is from someone with 6k hours in tf2

[humble helm]

2042 HAD as many players, but lost them

Free or not, more people would be playing 2042 if it were good

[next onyx]

6k oh man.

[humble helm]

At least half as many, actually even a quarter

[next onyx]

I have respect for you.

But also wtf.

[humble helm]

^

[dawn cedar]

not really, for most people, all it takes is getting burned once and they dont come back

[jovial tusk]

regardless

most people ge burnt out n then return when a new season starts

[dawn cedar]

lol, played it off and on since 09

[jovial tusk]

as seasons have said

[humble helm]

And in 2042 you get burnt out even faster

[next onyx]

When you're burned out you realise how much better you are without it.

This game isn't made to last.

No player persistent servers, no interesting game types.

[dawn cedar]

I mean, atleast they have the balls to do something new instead of the same formula every year like others

[humble helm]

It's meant to make a lot of money so they can spend 10 dollars on it a season and make a new game that does the same

[next onyx]

Gimme conquest and bt in one platlist without a care.

[humble helm]

They copied other games to do that

[next onyx]

Still new for battlefield.

Even though they missed the mark by a lot.

[humble helm]

New or not they've forsaken the unique and good qualities of the game to make an inferior call of duty

[next onyx]

Cod in what way. They both involve you firing a gun.

[dawn cedar]

unique and good qualities? its just all generic modern militiary shooters, except now you can blow up buildings

[next onyx]

Super sprint I understand but nothing else.

Oops sorry. Thought out too loud.

[humble helm]

They designed the game different and not in a good way

[dawn cedar]

okay? not every idea is a winner, thats what taking chances is about.

[humble helm]

Everything is worse and in exchange we get bigger servers with worse net code

[heavy bough]

I love Blasco

[dawn cedar]

let me guess, bf4 was your favorite game

[heavy bough]

Yes

[naive quiver]

[humble helm]

If even ONE idea they had to change the game hit hard enough I'd like it

Even ONE

[heavy bough]

Actually nah bf1 was my favourite

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield4-battlefield-battlefield-at10-gif-22071261

[arctic grove]

Anyone playing 2042 ps5 ?

[copper ice]

Genuinely interested in what ideas you think 2042 has pursued

[humble helm]

Dice had the formula and they threw it out

It's twice as wide but a quarter as deep

[dawn cedar]

specialists? random events during the game? zones instead of just flags?

[copper ice]

One of my biggest complaints about the game is that i feel the ideas at the base of it are all flawed

[humble helm]

Specialists do nothing positive, random events are more annoying than fun, zones are just big flags

[dawn cedar]

my guy, i literally said its all about trying something new, if you want to play the same shit every year go play cod