i think it also blocked launcher nades. but not hand ones
#battlefield-2042
acoustic seal
they shouldn't be good, there's no reason for the shitter crutch to be competitive
misty briar
@remote kiln besides that, why is it good ?
acoustic seal
dozer shield is already wild for having a free one hit melee kill
solid imp
I detect an RM main š
misty briar
Running behind a mate with a shield works excelent
hybrid totem
just let me have some kind of counter to lil birds DICE... pls...
fervent rose
when 75% of the deaths i receive are from rm68 i have no issue also using rm68. the shame is with dice taking 3 months to nerf it
misty briar
Mackay on it and c4 it
hybrid totem
a lil bird?
misty briar
I play m16 cuz it beats rm easy
misty briar
a lil bird?
Yes
hybrid totem
get me some footage of that
solid imp
Running behind a mate with a shield works excelent
It would be pretty great if you could tap E while behind Dozer to match speeds and stay close behind him until tap E again, like holding the shoulder of the breacher ahead of you type movement
misty briar
get me some footage of that
I never did that and never seen it. But i was thinking about it how cool that would look
lilac linden
It would be pretty great if you could tap E while behind Dozer to match speeds a...
Omg yes
hybrid totem
so it's not a viable counter to lil birds
fervent rose
Mackay on it and c4 it
pretty sure mackay would insta die now instead of landing safely on it
misty briar
so it's not a viable counter to lil birds
Probably not
lilac linden
Didn't medal of honor have something like that?
misty briar
Roadkilling with bird is fun
fervent rose
it'd have to be hovering and not moving
hybrid totem
Make the little bird vulnerable to small arms fire!
misty briar
Make the little bird vulnerable to small arms fire!
Thats nuts
fervent rose
^ why do AP rounds not fuck up little birds
solid imp
Didn't medal of honor have something like that?
medal of honor was an unsung hero of a video game... so good
lilac linden
medal of honor was an unsung hero of a video game... so good
Right? Loved it.
arctic grove
Why is the tank so bad
hybrid totem
^ why do AP rounds not fuck up little birds
I'm convinced the lil bird is the favorite of the dev team
arctic grove
TOR is bae but normal tank
fervent rose
TOR is bae but normal tank
gross
arctic grove
Seems to be only battlefield where Iām not good with it
fervent rose
daily reminder that TOR Maul should be deleted
fervent rose
I'm convinced the lil bird is the favorite of the dev team
i suspect many of them are vehicle abusers
hybrid totem
daily reminder that TOR Maul should be deleted
disagree, until there's some other kind of counter to the lil bird
Maybe make the HAMMER kill lil birds in one shot, then I would be ok with it
fervent rose
the tor maul completely ruins all ground vehicle balance
tidal trail
Vehicle load out is being reworked completely in Season 5. So Hopefully there's a fix coming
hybrid totem
*me using Crawford's gun to trade with nightbird*
maybe if there were some of the teamwork that DICE claims exists
hybrid totem
Vehicle load out is being reworked completely in Season 5. So Hopefully there's ...
source?
tidal trail
Dev notes
acoustic seal
maybe if there were some of the teamwork that DICE claims exists
there is teamwork in the game, you just don't like it (super hind farming)
fervent rose
remove cannons from jeep/hind, remove mortar from wildcat, remove TOR maul
robust vapor
maybe if there were some of the teamwork that DICE claims exists
it's possible
tidal trail
Well, vehicles are being moved around
hybrid totem
there is teamwork in the game, you just don't like it (super hind farming)
I don't like it? Or you don't like it
robust vapor
1 crawford alone is annoying
solid imp
A squad full of Crawford can shred a tank without overheating even once
fervent rose
A squad full of Crawford can shred a tank without overheating even once
this is false and i dont want to hear it. the tanker will destroy all 4 of them
solid imp
Didn't say it's likely to succeed but they can do the damage if allowed š
misty briar
Ur a hater
midnight mesa
Top G moment
misty briar
fervent rose
i do hate the turret! it's bad
solid imp
portal mode: tanks vs crawford turret only... 128 player
misty briar
Why bad
fervent rose
why use the turret when I can lcmg/rpt
misty briar
Cuz u have a shield plus more brrr
solid imp
shield is mid tbf
frigid violet
a squad of 4 crawfords lol
fervent rose
it's not more brrr, and you're a free headshot
frigid violet
just set up like a + shape of his machine gun
misty briar
Well i aint playing engi anyway, they bad af
fervent rose
the crawford turret is too inaccurate compared to the laser beam lmg's
zero point in it imo
hybrid totem
give assault the repair tool and I'm good with that
lilac linden
Honestly yeah.
solid imp
Well i aint playing engi anyway, they bad af
Lis has something to say about that
misty briar
Lis is the best and atill weak
solid imp
no
midnight mesa
Literally
misty briar
Liz weak yes
scenic badger
Lis ... weak ... lol
fervent rose
the best ground vehicle killers are still sundance/mackay, and thats silly
misty briar
Ye
midnight mesa
The cool down for her rockets arenāt enough to genuinely kill a tank in an actual lobby
still vault
Currently leveling Lis primarily. She is great.
solid imp
yeah but you don't have to be the one to kill the tank
midnight mesa
Youād have to be a doof to die by a lis at full health
scenic badger
oh no, i can't kill a tank in 2 TV missiles, maybe one of my 63 teammates can help?
fervent rose
The cool down for her rockets arenāt enough to genuinely kill a tank in an actua...
ye you need a convergence of players and even then the Irish APS completely negates lissiles
solid imp
why does everyone think that if they don't personally get the kill the operator must be useless lol
misty briar
I stick with turret buff for boris. Make them very strong but only shoot aa or at. U canāt switch modes while alive. Just 2 dif turrets
hybrid totem
The cool down for her rockets arenāt enough to genuinely kill a tank in an actua...
not by themself, but with the nonexistent teamplay...
midnight mesa
why does everyone think that if they don't personally get the kill the operator ...
Itās just not as worth it when thereās better tools in the engineer class
misty briar
Currently leveling Lis primarily. She is great.
She is fun but compared to others meh
solid imp
lis > any other engi by far
hybrid totem
I remember when they released Lis, her passive worked while you drove a vehicle. That was a fun time
scenic badger
just cause C5 kills any vehicles doesn't invalidate Lissiles, just the dumbest logic. yeah let me toss my C5 at the chopper from the ground
fervent rose
why does everyone think that if they don't personally get the kill the operator ...
if you only do a little bit of damage at a time and nobody else is helping, you're functionally wasting your time doing nothing
edgy oriole
crawdad > all
fervent rose
lis is definitely a threat, but only if a bunch of other lis are active
arctic grove
M Tank is bad tor is good
solid imp
you do 27 damage to MBT with a lissile, so it only takes 2 running around focusing on that tank
hybrid totem
I want flak cannon on MBT pls
arctic grove
There shoudlnt even be such thing as a bunch of fkn liz got I hate EA
misty briar
if you only do a little bit of damage at a time and nobody else is helping, you'...
Ye thats what i feel soing lis. I just do dmg but rarely the assist or even the kills. I can do 5 more kills by normal gameplay then
edgy oriole
they need to lower lis missle sound. it too loud 
fervent rose
any half decent tanker is ignoring lissiles with Irish APS in the current meta
solid imp
lis missile is appropriately concerning to hear š
scenic badger
I can kill a damaged vehicle from fkin 500m away. can i throw the C5 that far
solid imp
any half decent tanker is ignoring lissiles with Irish APS in the current meta
but weren't you just saying that the irish nerf is a bad thing?
still vault
I use the rockets to kill vehicles, one shooting stealth chopparhs and when a sniper is stationary and needs to learn it the hard way. Lis is great.
fervent rose
but weren't you just saying that the irish nerf is a bad thing?
Never in my life
irish needs nerfing
fervent rose
he's too good at denying infantry gameplay loop and the vehicle combo stuff is insanely broken
solid imp
irish nerf will buff both lis and the Hind
misty briar
I can kill a damaged vehicle from fkin 500m away. can i throw the C5 that far
U could just do the recoiless boomer
If u need liz for that
Skill issue
solid imp
Skill issue
hind laughs at this
scenic badger
U could just do the recoiless boomer
breh lol
misty briar
misty briar
hind laughs at this
Why hind
solid imp
because hind getting hit by recoilless is a pilot skill issue
hybrid totem
irish nerf will buff both lis and the Hind
and the little bird
scenic badger
shoot down all those nightbirds with your M5
hybrid totem
lil bird should die to regular ammo
edgy oriole
thats what ap is for
misty briar
shoot down all those nightbirds with your M5
Idc about them tbh
scenic badger
they care about you
misty briar
Na
cosmic sequoia
Is there a reason vehicle skins donāt render past 150m???
fervent rose
Is there a reason vehicle skins donāt render past 150m???
optimization
fervent rose
game already runs poorly enough
cosmic sequoia
Lol
hybrid totem
thats what ap is for
"Look! A little bird is shredding us!"
"Quick, change ammo types!"
Lil bird is gone, infantry gets shredded by ground troops
Make lil bird die to regular ammo
edgy oriole
"Look! A little bird is shredding us!"
"Quick, change ammo types!"
*Lil bird is...
i do this. i keep that ap on me at all times
misty briar
Naaa
arctic grove
Liz is bad and anyone that plays her is the same as a rose main in modern warfare
misty briar
Idk who rose is
hybrid totem
dafuq is a rose main. Translate that for bf players
scenic badger
who the fk is rose
fervent rose
i feel like anybody that shoots AP at a nightbird is just asking to be minigun'd 2 seconds later anyway
cosmic sequoia
Liz is bad and anyone that plays her is the same as a rose main in modern warfar...
Yeah what this guy said
(Iām a heli main and want people@to stop playing lis)
misty briar
i feel like anybody that shoots AP at a nightbird is just asking to be minigun'd...
Just dodge
arctic grove
dafuq is a rose main. Translate that for bf players
Just awful
scenic badger
play Lis for memeing on kids
hybrid totem
so not lis
edgy oriole
the only AP rounds that dont work is the AK. idk wha tthe issue is but it cant hit vehicles
scenic badger
you know you hate being Lissiled in the face randomly as you're trudging across the desert
too funny
cosmic sequoia
Makes the walk worth it
arctic grove
I hate her accent I hate her goofy red hair I hate her rocket
misty briar
I just sprint jump infront of it, slide and lay down. Never got hit when doing this
hybrid totem
Ooh I know how to balance lil birds! Remove directional hit markers for their pilots
solid imp
cosmic sequoia
Amen
cosmic sequoia
Ooh I know how to balance lil birds! Remove directional hit markers for their p...
Make their hit boxes like 4 times bigger
Invisible hit box
Gg
hybrid totem
yes but only lil birds, no other aircraft
cosmic sequoia
Yes
misty briar
Denied
cosmic sequoia
Meanwhile give Apache and hokum another main gun, extra set of flares and quicker repair
š
arctic grove
Like Iām not a helo main I use support tanks, helicopters and jets and Snipe and medic and I have most of these things in mastery so people canāt use me. Hating her as an excuse. That Iām a sweat Iām not. Sheās an awful character and her abilities awful, and it gets abuse. All the time to the point where thereās no point in using vehicles if your team is incompetent, which is most of the time.
misty briar
misty briar
Whats wrong with being a sweat
cosmic sequoia
He jelly
fervent rose
anyone better than you is a sweat and that's bad!
misty briar
Jelly bish
scenic badger
i just posted a vid of Lis 2.0 in #streams-and-videos . T1'd and done for now, but it was the funniest specialist to play
scenic badger
NTW + AT mines + Lis is deadly at all ranges
arctic grove
Liz mains, are either 50 kg and or all Play alone
misty briar
Liz aint a comedian how can she be the funniest.
scenic badger
play wiff me daddy beetle
misty briar
Cant we rename boris to borderlineboris cuz he aint having a good time in the game and getn bullied
Simp
cosmic sequoia
Jk idk I only play the black fella and fly the helicopters (Iām a loser)
misty briar
Ye we here for the funs
cosmic sequoia
Thatās not true, I drive a 1990 Honda civic, live with my parents, work at GameStop part time and have never had a girlfriend
mighty holly
As long as weāre having a pog time thatās all that matters
Fun fact I once said that to a lad and he got mad at me 
misty briar
Thatās not true, I drive a 1990 Honda civic, live with my parents, work at GameS...
Goals
misty briar
Well i still got mine
cosmic sequoia
Iām going to metamorphosis now
misty briar
Just kidding but i think thats a funny quote
scenic badger
really punching down on all us test tube babies rn
arctic grove
play wiff me daddy beetle
Wym
misty briar
They are like hulks
cosmic sequoia
Test tube babies you mean Vought products
arctic grove
Just lost my apache because the team refuse to use anti air and refuse to kill their anti air and refuse to kill their tanks and just consistently displayed how no one knows how to play the game and now weāre losing because theyāre only good air helicopter players are getting shut down instantly
misty briar
Ppl without parents groe up with alot of pain, and i think thats beautiful
cosmic sequoia
Just lost my apache because the team refuse to use anti air and refuse to kill t...
Good air support means nothing if the infantry are dodo brains
misty briar
If u never felt pain, u never felt reality
misty briar
Good air support means nothing if the infantry are dodo brains
Not the dodos
scenic badger
just use Lis on air support
cosmic sequoia
Played yesterday and dominated, but we still lost like 0-700
My absolute favorite is spawning and getting TOR tanked though
Absolutely no counter play except smashing your screen with your hand
misty briar
Just lost my apache because the team refuse to use anti air and refuse to kill t...
Its ur fault for being bad. If u know they wont do shit why u getn into the fights. Dodo gameplay
arctic grove
Yep
cosmic sequoia
Lol
royal swan
Good air support means nothing if the infantry are dodo brains
True, be a good transport heli but it won't matter as the team sucks ass on using your spawn properly
still vault
misty briar
Watch out its the mods
cosmic sequoia
True, be a good transport heli but it won't matter as the team sucks ass on usin...
Lmaoo fr
I gave up flying the super hind
I stopped long time ago tho cuz it was just so broken. Wasnāt fun.
royal swan
I still give that experience in BT
I really don't give a shit if people get kills with the op gun, all I want is the objective taken and cheeky areas used
vocal adder
wait where did exdous go i thought it was meant to be a permanent mode ?
flat pine
fax
fervent rose
wait where did exdous go i thought it was meant to be a permanent mode ?
theres no permanent modes. although i think regular breakthrough has never been removed so far
royal swan
Don't worry it will come back
vocal adder
I know it will come back its just annoying that everytime i start playing the game again it just goes
royal swan
Remember when rush was a limited mode
frigid violet
did they add random inputs to helicopters and jets or was i just on a very laggy server?
royal swan
Lag
fervent rose
remember when Rush was a well balanced experience with layouts that made sense and had vehicle setups that aren't rage inducing
cosmic sequoia
did they add random inputs to helicopters and jets or was i just on a very laggy...
If it was the former, you would be hearing my bitching from the top of a mountain
royal swan
Oh do we have rush xl
vocal adder
I actually miss the 128 player breakthrough
frigid violet
thank goodness
cosmic sequoia
You can steamroll the first 2-3 objs, and then the last one itās like get fucked nerd
royal swan
That's depending on the map
cosmic sequoia
Hot damn. Getting the Tuesday blues strong today
royal swan
You will definitely get a better experience than boring cq
cosmic sequoia
Cap
royal swan
Discarded actually went to being a balanced BT map
cosmic sequoia
Conquest > every other game mode (itās been proven by paid scientists)
frigid violet
get in a vehicle
cosmic sequoia
^
vocal adder
Breakthrough is the best mode
royal swan
And piss off the camping tors yeah right
cosmic sequoia
Lmaoo
frosty flint
Quick question: rather k30 or mp9 with the big suppressors for epic stealth plays?
frigid violet
drive around them
cosmic sequoia
So weāre all in agreement that the TOR tank should be reworked or removed?
Great
royal swan
Yeah
frosty flint
So weāre all in agreement that the TOR tank should be reworked or removed?
I vote for deletion of all vehicles, which is why i love TDM so much
edgy oriole
all out superiority should replace tdm in AOW
royal swan
There a game for that
edgy oriole
royal swan
It's called cod
fervent rose
the TOR tank is the worst thing added to the game post launch
cosmic sequoia
I vote for deletion of all vehicles, which is why i love TDM so much
Iād cry
It is
Hands down
They didnāt QA test it at all
fervent rose
it is so poorly thought out
cosmic sequoia
Instead of artillery or anything, they add a fucking tank with insane velocity
āWeāll give it two seats, that should balance itā
frosty flint
Ever since only ENGINEERS got rockets, dealing with vechicles has become such a royal pain
cosmic sequoia
Yeah the balance isnāt good
frosty flint
now i have to... what... go with falck and ammo crate and SFAR AP nades to DPS a tank like a destiny raid boss?
cosmic sequoia
It destroys air vehicles too
frosty flint
OOop i compared BF to destiny that's a harsh insult
cosmic sequoia
Lmao
robust vapor
KEK
cosmic sequoia
I wish we could go back to like the release version with updated maps, but the old vehicle stuff
Jets and helis using same category, but having like 2-3 of them
robust vapor
M1A5 still superior to TOR
cosmic sequoia
So thereās actually air battles
scenic badger
oh, the 8 flying hovercrafts and invincible boltes meta? yeah, lets go back to month 1
cosmic sequoia
Not that shite
scenic badger
fervent rose
skybox apache 2nd seat 
cosmic sequoia
Just remove the tor god damn
fervent rose
this game had so many hilarious vehicle problems (and they still do)
robust vapor
Pre nerf Hokum cannon
cosmic sequoia
I canāt believe that shit is in the game
robust vapor
LUL
robust vapor
Ye that sucks
cosmic sequoia
I think itās because the Apache is slightly smaller than the hokum
So In dice mind, thatās balanced
scenic badger
i like all the sweeping, massive changes they do to the specialists nonstop, have messed with their T1 requirements at least 20 times now, and yet vehicles can't have their guns swapped out past month 1 changes
robust vapor
Bumper copter go boom
cosmic sequoia
i like all the sweeping, massive changes they do to the specialists nonstop, hav...
Still using flares and repairs
Literally no equipment change
So fucking lame
scenic badger
fr
fervent rose
i like all the sweeping, massive changes they do to the specialists nonstop, hav...
but see it's fun being killed by a 50m cannon on a LATV parked backwards 250m away
haha fun
cosmic sequoia
I wish they used bf5 way of like getting ammo.
Make the vehicles a little stronger, but harder to use
forest snow
Just remove the tor god damn
hell no gotta have something to upset the night bird and stealth mains
scenic badger
but see it's fun being killed by a 50m cannon on a LATV parked backwards 250m aw...
i can support this for anti air, but man, yeah, annoying af
fervent rose
i can support this for anti air, but man, yeah, annoying af
they should just make the miniguns better at AA
Or maybe yea, emplaced guns!
cosmic sequoia
hell no gotta have something to upset the night bird and stealth mains
Stealth choppers are dog water. If you have decent air support theyāre no problem
fervent rose
wild new idea
scenic badger
50mm shouldnt be on the jeep at all obv
sage dock
Casper?
You good, bro?
Need a hug with hot chocolate and marshmallows?
scenic badger
i fkin love flak cannons, yeah slap it on
vocal adder
I wish they used bf5 way of like getting ammo.
Where you go to the supply station thing ?
forest snow
give the tor a flak pod too.
cosmic sequoia
give the tor a flak pod too.
No
arctic grove
Iām a irish Man until I die
vocal adder
Why am i getting instantly killed i don't remember it being like this
arctic grove
Why am i getting instantly killed i don't remember it being like this
Skill + issue
cosmic sequoia
The only way to destroy them with air is getting above themā¦ they can throw down those little things too so you canāt shoot from distance
TOR already has a fucking HMG
in the name of balanceeeee
vocal adder
its not a skill issue lmao
royal swan
Tell us that getting killed isn't a skill issue
fervent rose
everyone gets insta'd in current 2042, even the best players
vocal adder
Did they change the ttk ?
fervent rose
the damage ranges/accuracy of ARs are at wild levels
fervent rose
Did they change the ttk ?
no, but they "fixed" the recoil bug
although with everyone using rm68 it kind of is a TTK change 
that thing is so over tuned for its accuracy
vocal adder
100% the ttk has changed it use to take longer to kill people
arctic grove
How many helis on one team can be up at once in regular conquest?
fervent rose
100% the ttk has changed it use to take longer to kill people
the only changes i can think of are removing most of the armor and the small AR headshot multiplier buff
remote kiln
How many helis on one team can be up at once in regular conquest?
depends on the map
left hollow
Anyone know what the FALT is in game? Loads of the specialists have outfits with FALT on them
fervent rose
unless you havent played since launch
because they totally reworked all guns ~6 months into the game i think
remote kiln
100% the ttk has changed it use to take longer to kill people
the game has moved much faster with the playerbase maturing over seasons, it's not what it used to be
people get better optimise etc etc
fervent rose
The recoil bug got fixed 3-4 months ago
people naturally are shooting better
it is much easier to full auto and make the downward microadjustments compared to 6 months ago
scenic badger
Anyone know what the FALT is in game? Loads of the specialists have outfits with...
proxy org used by the Americans/Russians
like, Blackwater, I guess
Falt stands for Foreign Activities Liaison Team
vocal adder
I mean i stopped at the start of season 4 because i wanted a break and tried to play it again now but the ttk seems way different that's all but maybe your right maybe its just players have got better and that i don't know
scenic badger
TTK hasn't changed, RM68 is still a slower TTK than a bunch of weapons. the servers and netcode have just been utter trash for the past few months
frosty flint
I need to play this more
scenic badger
crossplay kills feel absolutely horrid
fervent rose
the beauty of bad wifi
scenic badger
if you ever "die instantly" its probably because of some garbage coding between some kids original PS4 on wifi in argentina vs your fiber connection on your modern PC
frigid violet
Cross play is so good
radiant prism
Anyone know what the FALT is in game? Loads of the specialists have outfits with...
FALT is a CIA hit squad, headed by Wolff. Lore stuff
frigid violet
Is Wolff a bad guy
radiant prism
Lore wise sorta
fervent rose
he's the good guy but is actually the bad guy! and the bad guy is actually the good guy!
the lore is very silly
radiant prism
Heās director of the nopat counter terrorism team or whatever at the CIA
And he believes Oz is a terrorist
scenic badger
the lore is weird cause it doesn't specifically define who's the good or bad guys. supposedly... we're actually playing the bad guys
radiant prism
Itās supposed to be morally grey
scenic badger
yea, exactly
radiant prism
I guess
US isnāt good, RU isnāt good, but the No pats arenāt really good either
Especially not Oz
But he does have noble goals now
scenic badger
from what I understand, we're always playing a soldier of one of the big splinter factions
radiant prism
The whole point of flashpoint is that itās where Oz plans to try to begin effectively terraforming using project Silver Spear
Which is the satellite
fervent rose
Especially not Oz
no i'd say at this point oz is the clear good guy in the situation
radiant prism
Iād agree
cosmic sequoia
He wants the 4K pics
radiant prism
But up until now heās definitely been not the best
fervent rose
but the nopats integration into the story is hilarious and silly
radiant prism
Especially in the Exodus short film
dapper river
No-Pats are..... LE BAD?!?!
fervent rose
like we're supposed to be working for wolff but now wolff is going to "hunt us down"
except next lobby i'm gonna join up and play on the US side with every specialist like nothing has changed
royal swan
And what's the Russian side even doing
elfin coral
And what's the Russian side even doing
Just chilling I guess
radiant prism
Wolff was revealed to have ulterior motives in that whole Easter egg from last season
royal swan
You know what, I'm all for Wolff
robust vapor
Oz wants that RTX 10k90ti
elfin coral
like we're supposed to be working for wolff but now wolff is going to "hunt us d...
Well Wolff was all like āok thanks for making my job infinitely easier. I donāt need you anymore. See ya.ā And then launched a missile at the Nordvik facility
dapper river
And what's the Russian side even doing
defending their sovereign territory, stopping illegal space weapons launches, seizing illegal weapons research, defending their allies from invasion, reclaiming stolen property....
so DICE is saying.... Russia... LE GOOD??
radiant prism
Well Wolff was all like āok thanks for making my job infinitely easier. I donāt ...
Because he got baited by Oz and Zain
radiant prism
Yes
hybrid totem
wtf is "legal" in 2042
elfin coral
Btw Iām making a fanfic and so far Iāve made 3 OCs
crimson mantle
is it just me or am i not able to get into an game?
just connecting to online servers
over and over
radiant prism
The whole thing is that Oz wants to use Silver Spear to create new land for the nopats, while Wolff doesnāt want that tech outside of US hands and will probably just use it to wage war on Russia.
copper ice
update game
radiant prism
Repair game, then update
royal swan
Holy shit this is like the general shepherd betrayal
radiant prism
Tbh yeah thatās an accurate description
royal swan
Wolff and oz were on the same side at one point
radiant prism
Little too much water
frigid violet
oh the ice caps are melting too
elfin coral
is this because there isn't any water left in the world?
Bruh London is flooded and Singapore had to build a sea wall
radiant prism
Wolff and oz were on the same side at one point
No, not really. Wolff was working with the Exodus team for a while, but then betrayed them.
royal swan
Bruh London is flooded and Singapore had to build a sea wall
Gotta keep the mermaid out
frigid violet
Oz took all the water from discarded and put it in london
royal swan
They keep coming in illegally
elfin coral
Good
crimson mantle
Repair game, then update
will try
radiant prism
I mean have you seen Florida on the loading screen
frigid violet
no my game loads too fast
radiant prism
That shit flooded as hell
royal swan
Oz took all the water from discarded and put it in london
London is still the same, just had a rainy day
elfin coral
They keep coming in illegally
Itās more like everyone and their mothers were claiming to be no pats and then started shit
So the US pressured Singapore to keep all no pats out to protect their interests
robust vapor
wolf and oz are like optimus and megatron
radiant prism
Thereās apparently organizations trying to do that
elfin coral
That shit flooded as hell
Which is also why they took over the old EU site in Kourou because they lost Cape Canaveral
royal swan
Thereās apparently organizations trying to do that
Corporate Germany lmao
elfin coral
Synseco is the only reason why Egypt still stands
radiant prism
Corporate Germany lmao
I mean itās Europe in general. I think itās the European Recovery Foundation or something. Look at the blue skins on the battlepass, they have the emblem on them
radiant prism
Synseco is the only reason why Egypt still stands
But apparently theyāre being very selective about who benefits from their tech
pine roost
Will the feedback threads be staying up until the weekend?
radiant prism
But apparently theyāre being very selective about who benefits from their tech
You can see a lot of graffiti on the wall on that map, clearly a lot of people arenāt happy about it
elfin coral
Thatās just corpos for ya
radiant prism
Yea
elfin coral
radiant prism
Even though the US attacked it, it wonāt change much
errant scarab
where is the repair toooll???
left hollow
FALT is a CIA hit squad, headed by Wolff. Lore stuff
Nice pretty cool stuff so it's basically the leviathan division vs the FALT
elfin coral
where is the repair toooll???
Itās with the characters in the engineer class
errant scarab
Itās with the characters in the engineer class
i dont see it
radiant prism
Itās equipped by default
solid imp
kbm hit 5
radiant prism
You donāt have to select it, youāll always spawn with it
robust vapor
repair tool isn't a selectable gadget
it's universal for the engineer classed specialists
dapper river
universal repair tool yet not a single engineer repping on my busted ass team 
radiant prism
Nice pretty cool stuff so it's basically the leviathan division vs the FALT
Effectively yeah
scenic badger
where is the repair toooll???
yo but for real, how do you check your repair tool level / t1 progress? i could not figure that out with the change lately. same with medpen/spawnpoint/paddles
radiant prism
yo but for real, how do you check your repair tool level / t1 progress? i could ...
Should be visible on your badges
chilly jacinth
in your collections
radiant prism
That too
elfin coral
@radiant prism so what revisions would you say I should do for that map I sent you?
radiant prism
<@471122014846058506> so what revisions would you say I should do for that map I...
It seems pretty good, Iām not sure off the top of my head what changes would need to be made
radiant prism
Lol
sour meadow
that would be hilarious
edgy oriole
i would like a bf rts
radiant prism
Itās actually gonna be one of those mobile base builders
scenic badger
DICE does a Bungie?
edgy oriole
halo wars was dope
elfin coral
It seems pretty good, Iām not sure off the top of my head what changes would nee...
Post it in here for everyone to see. I want to see what everyone has to say
edgy oriole
so i dont see why bf rts wouldnt be
scenic badger
if you want a BF RTS just go play company of heroes, there's not gonna be a better one
radiant prism
CoH is also good
scenic badger
i've never played 3, but CoH 2 was amazing
elfin coral
Ok so everyone this is the map I made showing the state of the world based on what I could piece together from the lore. What do yāall think?
solid imp
imagine if the next bf was a fucking RTS
ok fr I would love it if there was a campaign-esque meta around the core gameplay, like country allegiances would dynamically shift throughout the seasons depending on how actual matches are turning out. Like if for some reason RU just simply won more often than US on a specific map that would have an impact on the storyline and have some implications somehow
dapper river
ok fr I would love it if there was a campaign-esque meta around the core gamepla...
Yeah but that could just be bad map balance 
calm bison
Donāt spawn into a jet first chance
Your textures will get fucked
Played a game on manifest
copper ice
coh2 had absolutely abysmal monetization
calm bison
Mind you I play 1080p on Series S
solid imp
Yeah but that could just be bad map balance <:CursedCat:869694866752405554>
š fair point actually
calm bison
This shit looked like a slightly better Xbox One session
I had to restart and luckily that seemed to fix the issue
Also Sea of Thieves has low quality fingernails
sour meadow
to everyone who mains falck only to get inf heals and not revive anyone, i wish you a very happy plz uninstall
calm bison
Fuck Boris Mains
scenic badger
Falck mains looking for teammate's necks to stomp on while shooting their medgun at the nearest wall for themselves like
robust vapor
And to the cunts that skip revive while I'm on my way, kindly shut down
calm bison
And to the cunts that skip revive while I'm on my way, kindly shut down
This too
mighty holly
cold beacon
The hardest part of playing support
the "hardest" part of playing support while playing Falck 
scenic badger
honestly if they didn't magnetize themselves a bit it'd be so frustrating with the damn netcode
between ps/xbox/pc
elfin coral
was the syrette gun ever able to revive teammates or was it a feature they never added cause it made Falck too OP
carmine rover
in alpha
scenic badger
it was implied it was gonna revive people, and i don't think we ever saw it in action other than alpha
carmine rover
test
errant scarab
they will put damage numbers like apex apexfield
hushed lotus
Do any girls without pimples play this game
potent trench
What was DICE reasoning for not having a proper Server Browser again?
errant scarab
Do any girls without pimples play this game
I dont have... Me?
keen karma
lol what
keen karma
are those bots?
who
errant scarab
yes i am IA
keen karma
AI will end the world lol
royal swan
The fuck is going on
lavish stag
nvm you got the wrong ghost the ghost who got kicked out of ea content creator was ghostgaming not ghost gaming...theres a huge difference
errant scarab
The fuck is going on
Hi there
lavish stag
wtf...
royal swan
That's not the right one lmao
mighty holly
Ik but it is what it is lad got verified and the bf one doesnāt
just doing a little bit of Tom foolery
solid imp
it was implied it was gonna revive people, and i don't think we ever saw it in a...
Can you imagine.. it's already bad enough that medics don't throw smoke to cover the revive. Giving them revive from a distance... Ew.
scenic badger
it honestly doesn't make sense (to me) to play medics without smoke nades or launcher
because yeah, people would instantly get revived and die in the same moment with that feature
meager girder
What was DICE reasoning for not having a proper Server Browser again?
Nobody knows
tacit sorrel
Donāt need smoke if you wipe the enemy team 
meager girder
youād think an EA podcast would just answer players most pressing questions
because podcasts are meant to be for the audience
solid imp
because podcasts are meant to be for the audience
It is for the audience, it successfully always makes me hungry for cookies
meager girder
or it could be that EA is trying to make a philosophical pieces about how capitalistic consumerism has destroyed society so much so that the only way to call it out is by applying a pragmatic example of why the deepest selfish desires of players has made them unsatisfied with even the most trivial of inconveniences
Who knows tho the devs are clearly smarter than we are
solid imp
iirc one guy did a while back, I think it involved bots slowly making an area smaller to simulate a shrinking fighting area
misty briar
Can you imagine.. it's already bad enough that medics don't throw smoke to cover...
well not all medics have smoke
meager girder
At least they let you grind in portal
solid imp
craggy arch
looking for teammates for cross play, playing 32v32 conquest
solid imp
!!lfg
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craggy arch
ok, tks
jovial jay
frail sparrow
Oh no, a mod, quick hide the party!
humble hound
anybody else having bad lag today/
dull badger
Runnn or I'll drizzle sparkles all over all of you XD
lilac linden
am never here, so I thought I'd say hellow š
Hello!
lilac linden
Runnn or I'll drizzle sparkles all over all of you XD
Wait what?!
dull badger
āØ āØ āØ
lilac linden
Oh no. It's too late. We have been sprinkled
lilac linden
Do i get wings?
dull badger
Sure, if you play Sundance
lilac linden
That's my main so hell yeah
dull badger
āØ
keen karma
Why do I have so low fps in this game?
dull badger
dull badger
Why do I have so low fps in this game?
the game is CPU demanding
lilac linden
Love the flying squirrel š
keen karma
i have good cpu
lilac linden
the game is CPU demanding
At least ask it for consent
dull badger
i have good cpu
Me too, but still
dull badger
At least ask it for consent
ye pet it a few times maybe
lilac linden
ye pet it a few times maybe
Yeah exactly
dull badger
my GPU is always happy, it has a Stitch on it
lilac linden
my GPU is always happy, it has a Stitch on it
There you go
spiral hound
guys why i cant find any lobby with players even in portal?
matchmaking does not work
solid imp
Make sure your game is up to date
lilac linden
Check your filters everything like that
spiral hound
already checked
solid imp
That happens to me sometimes. For me I let matchmaking timeout the whole 2 minutes and then quit the game. For me that seems to unstick the EA app
copper ice
probably out of date with ea not finding the updates
odd yew
solid imp
For others, they need to run a repair of the game for it to understand there's an update
arctic grove
Squad management is cool and all but whenās the firing input fix š
copper ice
got crossplay on?
spiral hound
For others, they need to run a repair of the game for it to understand there's a...
doing that
spiral hound
got crossplay on?
yeah
copper ice
double checked? Sometimes it turns crossplay off by itself
frail sparrow
For others, they need to run a repair of the game for it to understand there's a...
every darn update my friend has to repair the game due the update corrupts his game. it's so weird
robust vapor
Angel needs to be given a rigged explosive supply crate
spiral hound
repairing rn
i'll see if this does anything
lilac linden
Angel needs to be given a rigged explosive supply crate
Suicide bomber?
robust vapor
The drop in supply crate
spiral hound
Angel of death?
frail sparrow
Angel needs to be given a rigged explosive supply crate
no, angel just needs a homing supply crate that also recruits the people it lands on
lilac linden
Hate that
robust vapor
High IQ crate
lilac linden
Homing crate would be hilarious
lilac linden
Just drop it on the tank
lilac linden
Hate when I call something in and it gets stuck
lilac linden
Like the airdrop trap from cod
lilac linden
Yeah that too
dull badger
just ends up destroyed on the ground
robust vapor
sullen mulch
lilac linden
Yes
odd yew
What skin
tropic epoch
sup chat
lilac linden
Sup!
misty briar
The green black skins are trash anyway
Isk why anyone would buy it
Love the skins that drop before the thing getn nerfed
scenic badger
i'd wear those green-black ones before those walking flaregun orange-black suits offered to half the specialists. just silly
lilac linden
What did you walk in on
radiant prism
Lmao what
lilac linden
Fortnite in battlefield
lilac linden
There is no one in this server š
jovial jay
(whats up with the icon overlapping bug I've been getting anyway)
shadow hazel
After noon everyone
torpid wadi
Howdy partner
shadow hazel
I guess no Kick for squad managent?
Guess they felt it could be abused.. I mean I get it, but at the same time why should my 3 man squad have to leave the one we are in and make a new one, just to get the last guy in. Not to mention the chances of some random that came into the game late getting that spot just before the last guy joins.
copper ice
nope
neon igloo
So how is this squad management?
copper ice
they felt it was "not beneficial behaviour for ptfoing in a co-operative manner" to have kick/lock available
neon igloo
I dont want to be critical of any devs but uhhhhh they should check the definition of squad management.
snow gyro
Guess they felt it could be abused.. I mean I get it, but at the same time why s...
same, I think it is complete BS, all it takes is 1 person to inconvenient the other 3. It is unfair, and stupid
radiant prism
I did get kicked a lot from random squads back in BFV
neon igloo
I did get kicked a lot from random squads back in BFV
So? Join another?
copper ice
it was annoying in squad conquest when there was one full squad and one locked squad with 3 guys in
radiant prism
I mean Iām not against it being there
But I guess I see where theyāre coming from
jovial jay
Randos in squad tends to end up like that sometimes
snow gyro
I did get kicked a lot from random squads back in BFV
so do I, but I understand they must have their own reason of kicking me out of their squad, maybe they want to squad up with their friends, etc
arctic grove
I did get kicked a lot from random squads back in BFV
That is a Certified Battlefield Moment
neon igloo
They should make the next BF game call BF:PC
copper ice
its not like it cant be misused, but on the other hand it's only bf
snow gyro
I don't get my feeling "hurt" because some randos kicked me out of their squad
jovial jay
What lol
limpid pond
I always tried to create my own squad in bfv
radiant prism
Iām gonna let DICE speak for them selves though, I donāt think weāve actually gotten an official statement from them on this yet
arctic grove
They should make the next BF game call BF:PC
Dont forget to add inclusivity
neon igloo
PC umbrellas that term
snow gyro
Iām gonna let DICE speak for them selves though, I donāt think weāve actually go...
I think that straaford post already said everything we need to know
copper ice
^
snow gyro
they can wrap it up in some nice words, but we all know that it means
radiant prism
What does squad management have to do with political correctness?? Lmao
quaint vector
We played like this with no Squad Management for Year.. I don't expect it to be a lot different
arctic grove
I think that straaford post already said everything we need to know
Yeah. seems like a good public statement that didnt need to be hidden.
radiant prism
We played like this with no Squad Management for Year.. I don't expect it to be ...
This tbh. What else do you need squad management for besides squadding up with friends?
jovial jay
The most squad management I've ever done was giving out orders for point
My squadmates rarely talk to each other
arctic grove
The most squad management I've ever done was giving out orders for point <:leo:7...
Best bonus point feature
copper ice
the orders barely even function
quaint vector
Squad Orders is what will make the most from it
copper ice
you have to do it like 3 times before it actually works
radiant prism
I mean points for giving out/following orders is nice, but why are people really making such a big fuss over this
quaint vector
For all PTFO players, Its free XP
radiant prism
Itās just like fucking VOIP
copper ice
it still baffles me that they had such a functioning system in bfv and it became this
snow gyro
Did everyone forgot the game was released with no scoreboards, no all chats, no voip?
their reasoning is they want to avoid "toxicity"
we all know how that worked out
snow gyro
This tbh. What else do you need squad management for besides squadding up with f...
it is a staple of battlefield games. You probably dont need it, many players do
quaint vector
Its more reasonable than other Legacy Features tho
quaint vector
No Scoreboard was big OOF
copper ice
that was like the most positive thing bfv added
snow gyro
I just really hate the road DICE is going. It is not looking great at all.
radiant prism
it is a staple of battlefield games. You probably dont need it, many players do
Lmao what. Yes I know it was in previous games but people are act like this is the difference between being GOTY or not
placid echo
I like that you'll see if a squad has a friend though. Something I've wanted in previous titles
quaint vector
I like that you'll see if a squad has a friend though. Something I've wanted in ...
Yes.!
snow gyro
Lmao what. Yes I know it was in previous games but people are act like this is t...
im not saying it is absolutely necessary or game breaking. but it is what we expect from a typical Battlefield game, create a squad, invite players to squad, join a squad
It is the bare minimum I dare say
solid imp
Did everyone forgot the game was released with no scoreboards, no all chats, no ...
but how can you hate the direction DICE is going? All of those things are now in the game even though not at launch?
radiant prism
I guess as someone whoās mostly a solo player, I donāt care that much about squad locking. I guess people who usually have a squad care more.
solid imp
The direction they're going is adding those things that you are saying made it look bad (that they were missing)
radiant prism
im not saying it is absolutely necessary or game breaking. but it is what we exp...
Ok but you can do all that in the main menu lol
A party system has been in the game since the beta
And it works just fine
keen shoal
I think all the specialists should get a new gadget thatās just a gun with a round barrel that directs the bullet right into their head. It would finally make specialists into a system I could get behind.
snow gyro
The direction they're going is adding those things that you are saying made it l...
because along the way they realised they f'd up, so they bring it back, tell us they are nice to release "legacy features"
radiant prism
Not against it for that reason just to reiterate but I still donāt get why people are so pissed about this
snow gyro
I'm not pissed, just disappointed.
radiant prism
Agreed
solid imp
Or not putting time into fixing things
radiant prism
Iām more focused on the community reaction
copper ice
The direction they're going is adding those things that you are saying made it l...
spending dev time on adding functionality to the game that should have been in it at launch and would have been easier to add prior to full release is a good thing but its also a bad thing
radiant prism
Idk maybe Iām just seeing a lot of parallels to the VOIP situation
Where people made a huge fuss over something no one ever uses
snow gyro
We came from great games like Battlefield 4, 1 to what we have now. And you cannot tell me this is an upgrade.
solid imp
spending dev time on adding functionality to the game that should have been in i...
yeah but one they can do something about, the other requires a time machine
copper ice
yeah but I'm not gonna praise them for cleaning up their own mess
solid imp
I praise my children all the time for cleaning up their own mess instead of me doing it š š
copper ice
especially when it dips into what else they could be doing with that time
this is like the kids praising the parents for cleaning up their own puke on the carpet after going on a bender all night
snow gyro
yeah but I'm not gonna praise them for cleaning up their own mess
exactly. these features should be in the game before its released, not 6 months after.
copper ice
It's not like we could fix anything they did
bfv handled squads really really well, the immediate successor game took a massive shit on squads
solid imp
what is their other option than fix the game? Leave it broken while they take time to create the next BF?
copper ice
imo yes
patent path
guys it's a little sandy
copper ice
but that would be a wonderful world where we could drop garbage and make a decent game instead of trying to squeeze blood out of a stone
radiant prism
guys it's a little sandy
keen shoal
I donāt care about functionality, I want more skins for the specialists!!!! I bought every elite skin in BFV; why canāt I make Sundance wear a bright pink and purple unicorn outfit?!
patent path
<:AniSad:606906845302358027>
it gets everywhere
keen shoal
god i love specialist balance
Theyāre so awesome, did you buy all our cosmetics yet?
solid imp
imo yes
but this leaves everyone unhappy for at least a couple years, whereas fixing the game at least makes some people happy
radiant prism
Can you imagine the backlash if they just abandoned the game right away?
jovial jay
First impression probably ruined a lot of potential long term players experience
radiant prism
Like is that really what weāre talking about here?
odd yew
Can you imagine the backlash if they just abandoned the game right away?
And then theyāll announce Battlefield 7 
solid imp
Right everyone wanted them to admit they made mistakes and calling for specific fixes and features. They've been focused entirely on doing exactly that and now it's not the right thing for them to do.
Real lose lose situation there
snow gyro
I can't wait for the reaction when they officially abandon 2042 after season 5
"Next Battlefield is going to be better"
radiant prism
I canāt wait for people to start using this game to bash the next one
copper ice
its more of a too little too late thing imo
radiant prism
Like everyone did with BFV
keen shoal
āHey there no-pats! You didnāt buy enough of our skins, so weāre going to abandon the game and hope you like the specialist system next game!ā
mental panther
I can't wait for the reaction when they officially abandon 2042 after season 5
"...
would be nice to get the game out of beta status first, but i guess it is never happening
chrome sleet
And the cycle continues
fervent rose
Like everyone did with BFV
bfv had excellent guns and movement
bf1 didnt. 2042 doesnt
fuck the "cycle" bullshit
solid imp
I can't wait for the reaction when they officially abandon 2042 after season 5
"...
that's the classic BF pattern though don't you dare take that away from us. 33% will say "Next BF will be better", 33% will say "No way, they should just remaster X Y or Z Battlefield or I'm gone" and 33% will say "This one is peak, keep supporting this one forever and never make another one ever again"
copper ice
but this leaves everyone unhappy for at least a couple years, whereas fixing the...
im a firm believer that leaving 2042 to die quickly after release and putting all the resources into a new game would have made more people happy overall in the long term
radiant prism
bfv had excellent guns and movement
Good luck getting someone to admit that back when it was going on.
copper ice
apart from shareholders
fervent rose
okay but who cares what the redditors who dont play the game type
radiant prism
Donāt sit there and tell me the three years of hate BFV got didnāt happen.
copper ice
one of the frequent actual compliments of bfv was guns and movement even back then (though lots of complaints about animations for everything)
it was everything else that got shat on
radiant prism
I played V from launch date to 2042ās launch, and was in love with that game, and the whole time no one would dare say a positive thing about it
snow gyro
speak with your wallet. Personally I'm not holding my breath for the next one
fervent rose
well i certainly wasnt "in love" with launch bfv either
radiant prism
To see people turn around today and call it a masterpiece is legitimately heartbreaking
fervent rose
but the gunplay and movement was good from the start
copper ice
i havent seen anyone call it a masterpiece 
chrome sleet
Accurate ww2 game lmfao
radiant prism
i havent seen anyone call it a masterpiece <:JoyTeeth:802613789563289650>
Lucky you
copper ice
the gunplay was strongest before the ttk changes which sucked
chrome sleet
Sorry authentic
copper ice
the devs gimped one of the strongest parts of their game
keen shoal
To see people turn around today and call it a masterpiece is legitimately heartb...
Game never was, everyone I knew played it for the gunplay and movement. Game had nothing else redeeming about it, and the cosmetics shouldāve been a warning of what was to come.
fervent rose
fucked it right up
chrome sleet
Oh bruh I completely forgot about the ttk bs lol
copper ice
the ttk change alone was enough for me to know 2042 was going to be shit
keen shoal
Oh bruh I completely forgot about the ttk bs lol
That too
copper ice
It meant the devs had no say in what happened ultimately since it was clearly a decision from above them
Which was going to be reflected in their next game
chrome sleet
Fg42 needing 12 bullets at range to kill LMFAO
keen shoal
The elite skins and all the cringey redditors buying and gawking over them on the subreddit shouldāve let everyone know that the specialist system was on its way.
copper ice
ellie skins does look heavily like a prototype for specs
copper ice
and they let cheaters run RAMPANT
I played on console but i remember people complaining about cheaters in bfv from day 1 until now
screenshots of the same cheater who hadnt been banned for months and months and months
snow gyro
Fg42 needing 12 bullets at range to kill LMFAO
ah yes, the infamous 5.2 update. classic Dice moment right there
copper ice
one thing i will give to dice is that 5.2 was clearly not their decision
radiant prism
well on the subject of cosmetics...pretty nifty Boris skin this week
copper ice
too bad its for boris
radiant prism
kek
keen shoal
There's a sub for all the shit skins?
Nah just on the normal subreddit, there were hundreds of posts of people talking about how quirky and cool the elite skins were. Every time one was added people would spas out over how quirky and cool they were. The elite skins and specialists are made to be walking in game advertisements for you to buy them yourself. There is a reason why games donāt let you customize cosmetics anymore and just have a single entire skin to use.
chrome sleet
Didn't bfv have random recoil patterns? I don't remember custom I only used semi autos
radiant prism
Nah just on the normal subreddit, there were hundreds of posts of people talking...
Idk man, I always heard the opposite about specialists. Especially that one tom cruise guy
fervent rose
bfv technically has both
chrome sleet
I think I prefer set patterns myself
Control spread via bursting
Again Just my preference
copper ice
i do like bursting being relevant in games
fervent rose
you could control the spread to recoil by bursting
keen shoal
Idk man, I always heard the opposite about specialists. Especially that one tom ...
The bomber guy definitely broke the camels back, but do you remember the Japanese chick that everyone chimped out over?
copper ice
god knows you werent hammering the trigger on the m1907 at range
fervent rose
I liked there being almost no spread in bfv
keen shoal
There were like cringey cartoon memes like you would get from Rainbow 6 sieges community
quaint vector
We talkin about BF2042 right...
copper ice
I liked there being almost no spread in bfv
now we have no spread in 2042!
chrome sleet
Guys guys guys, when are we getting eastern front? I need to know
copper ice
hooray!
fervent rose
now we have no spread in 2042!
no recoil and not enough spread to matter except on.. haha mp9
mp9 enjoyers get rolled
scenic badger
remember when MP9 and M5A3 CC rounds got nerfed? they were easily the best guns in game until season 1
solid imp
And then the Avancys rode into town...
scenic badger
and they decided to leave the PBX as is for some reason
quaint vector
remember when MP9 and M5A3 CC rounds got nerfed? they were easily the best guns ...
MP9 was so good tho
Can't even use it now...
scenic badger
yeah, it just tickles your nutsack now for the most part
solid imp
you're shooting the mp9 wrong mate
fervent rose
nerf mp9 and release am40
quaint vector
M5A3 is still great tho
fervent rose
good stuff ya
scenic badger
M5A3 still pretty much as good as ever, it only lost like 30 ttk
Mp9 is a whole different gun after what they've done to it
copper ice
and they decided to leave the PBX as is for some reason
thats because the pbx has blatantly incorrect cqc stats, and dice never makes mistakes so they dont need to fix it because its not broken
quaint vector
MP9 lost everything...
fervent rose
if pbx got "fixed" like you say it would never be used
quiet shell
MP9 lost everything...<:CursedCat:869694866752405554>
It gets to revel in being slightly better than the AC9
fervent rose
if anything they should buff the other ammo types a bit
standard could be even better
copper ice
no recoil and not enough spread to matter except on.. haha mp9
like mp9s dogshit velocity didnt already make it crap, one of the only guns in the entire game with spread
copper ice
if pbx got "fixed" like you say it would never be used
they could just swap its current stats with standard and it would be relevant
it irritates me immensely that the cqc ammo has longer range than the standard ammo
quaint vector
Gimme P90 with Extended Mag, Champion Muzzlebreak & Laser
copper ice
i would accept completely shafting the pbx if it satisfied my statistics autism
scenic badger
yup the CC ammo ranges don't make a lick of sense
fervent rose
like i admit mp9 was maybe overtuned but overnerfing it is such a bad call
and they gave AR's bonus hs multi
copper ice
like i admit mp9 was maybe overtuned but overnerfing it is such a bad call
wait until rm68 gets 10m 4btk and 600 rof
fervent rose
the game overall would play better with less instant headshot deaths but they made that worse
solid imp
so what I'm hearing is that people agree Boris with MP9 is best...
scenic badger
GaaS seasonal meta: make new guns the best guns and nerf them just before you release more meta guns
scenic badger
so what I'm hearing is that people agree Boris with MP9 is best...
if this was season 0, yea. that was basically the play lol
copper ice
tbh i still think mp9 is better than the vector
solid imp
vector is pretty irrelevant these days
quaint vector
I can use K30 more than MP9
solid imp
Oh for me it's the other way around
quaint vector
Maybe just personal preference
scenic badger
MP9 only redeeming quality is 50 bullet mag, at that point, just use PP methinks
solid imp
yeah if you want to dump bullets choose the pp
fervent rose
i just use am40 if im trying to get the old mp9 experience
scenic badger
pretty much
fervent rose
why use smg when AR do both
copper ice
there's no reason to use mp9 or k30 at all
or any smg other than pbx or pp really
and then you've got ARs that can replace those as well
scenic badger
P90 is honestly better than most of the SMGs
copper ice
this isnt hard when all the smgs suck
fresh lintel
MP9 lets you move faster no? More so than other SMGs?
The PP and PBX are easily the best smgs, but I do like me the K30.
Like just cause ARs are better doesnt mean you cant enjoy SMGs.
Or watching someone melt like butter.
copper ice
the issue with enjoying it is whenever i use one i keep thinking "i could be doing this but better with an AR"
short barrel m5 has comparable kill times to smgs with no spread
am40 is better up close than almost every smg with faster reloads
copper ice
the ttk on smgs isn't competitive in their ideal range vs ARs and then they drop off hard
they're also missing ubgls
PBX makes up for this by having literally wrong stats so it's got juice and pp is just a ghetto AR with bigmag and fast reload
there is minimal reason to use any of them other than those two
i dont care about pbx having wrong stats as it actually makes it relevant, it's more that they know it's wrong but refuse to do anything about it
fiery shoal
the ttk on smgs isn't competitive in their ideal range vs ARs and then they drop...
but they are arent they? not only that but the ROF means that missing shots up close isnt as detrimental as missing AR shots up close
copper ice
that's mediated by requiring 1 more btk to kill up close
or 2 if it's the vector
not enough of an advantage
fiery shoal
ttk is faster though..
copper ice
it's more that the PBX outdoes all of them in that area
fiery shoal
and if you miss a shot its not as big a deal considering rof...
copper ice
there's no reason to use any of them other than the PBX if you want to do smg things
fiery shoal
yes there is...
left dome
Is there a way to customize the grenade throw back button on console
fiery shoal
what you are saying is just an outright lie
copper ice
i've been taking inspiration from dice
tiny imp
season 5 when?
fiery shoal
smgs are not the "ease of use, jack of all trade" weapons like most ARs are
but that absolutely does not mean they are not worth using
queen idol
anyone getting "Matchmaking Timeout" errors when trying to join a conquest game
all portal servers seems to be empty with no players ?
copper ice
short barrel m5 and am40 have the same rof as mp9
fiery shoal
smgs are objectively better sub 30m than ARs in terms of ttk and follow up, and typically magazine size as well
copper ice
am40 outdoes all smgs under 10m other than PBX
scenic badger
here, have some TTK values
https://i.redd.it/g5xkctjzo2ya1.png
fiery shoal
am40 outdoes all smgs under 10m other than PBX
you say that like that means something...
even people trying for cqc are probably only getting like.. 10% of their kills sub 10m...
and the am40 being the exception does not mean its the rule..
copper ice
10m is a horrifically short distance yeah, but it's still 10% of kills
while then being comparable to smgs up to 30m
same with m5 short barrel
solid imp
here, have some TTK values
https://i.redd.it/g5xkctjzo2ya1.png
Way shared this awhile back, it's an up to date and exhaustive weapon breakdown
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UQsYeC3LiFEvgBt18AarXYvFN3DWzFN3DqRnyRHC0wc/edit?usp=sharing
fiery shoal
its kind of ironic you are really trying to emphasize the importance of sub 10m kills but then turn around and say that smgs dont have a place in 2042 compared to ARs even though they are easily competitive against ARs sub 30m...
solid imp
@next onyx is that still the correct link? Please correct me if that's the wrong sheet...
scenic badger
yeah, that's the spreadsheet its using actually lol. Sorrow built it on the 2043 discord
next onyx
It is correct.
scenic badger
but graphs like that are kinda dumb cause it only says so much. that's all assuming body shots within the first damage drop off zone for the weapon
headshots will change all that
fiery shoal
headshots will change all that
and people forget with a higher mag count and higher rof, missing shots is less detrimental
scenic badger
yeah, gives the idea of your style of weapon at least
fiery shoal
granted you need to consider recoil as well and how easy it is in general to land shots in the first place
scenic badger
oh yes, just cause the AM40 is a killer sub 40m, doesn't mean you are landing all those bullets
fiery shoal
basically anyone that just looks at any singular stat about a weapon and tries to generalize anything is doing it wrong
next onyx
Only SMG that matters is the PBX but even so the am40, m5a3 and m16 are more reliable close up in massive part of their range and HS multiplier.