battlefield-2042

[lilac linden]

whispers into your ear It's ours now.

[storm oasis]

americans just sitting in the corner, waiting for the perfect moment to strike

[bleak bear]

I liked Devils Perch. Got into Leviathan later on.

Things to add into 2042.

Night vision?

VR?

[robust vapor]

ayo

[bleak bear]

See night vision again like from BF2?

[lilac linden]

Or night maps like bf4

[bleak bear]

I didnt play BF4.

[robust vapor]

and BF1

[fervent rose]

the only good night maps in bf are the bf1 maps

they are well lit

[bleak bear]

Was there night vision in BF4?

Bring it back.

[storm oasis]

night maps

actual combat in the dark

and campaign

i would kill for a bf2042 campaign

[radiant prism]

Man

[solemn bridge]

is rao decent?

[lilac linden]

Flashlights were a fucking God send

[robust vapor]

Prise de Tahure

[storm oasis]

im in love with the game’s universe so much

[storm oasis]

the hacker guy?

[fervent rose]

extremely dark maps are not very fun. flashlights just give you away

[storm oasis]

i dont think he is

[radiant prism]

I don’t know what they should do for the next BF game

[storm oasis]

kinda makes sniping more fair ngl

[lilac linden]

Used a laser every time.

[radiant prism]

Not only because I’m not sure what setting to do

[robust vapor]

Outer Space

[storm oasis]

better than cod’s at least

[robust vapor]

Geccko, Outer Space

[radiant prism]

But because Russia is just such a joke of a modern military power

[fervent rose]

yea and then you're dealing with low visibility, which is also not fun

[odd yew]

2020 - 2030 timeline

[lilac linden]

It wasn't the best if gamemodes but it was different and I liked it.

[robust vapor]

night maps are where people place mines all the time

:kek:

[fervent rose]

theres games out there if you want a real immersive experience. bf should be casual fun

[bleak bear]

remake El Alamein for a 2042 map. The new El Alamein not ww2 ver.

[next onyx]

Cold war battle field with some more interesting guns.

[fervent rose]

like play tarkov if you want a pitch black night time fps

[lilac linden]

Oh I know.

[bleak bear]

El Alamein is big.

[lilac linden]

Nah. Battlefield primal. Sticks and rocks.

[fervent rose]

a cold war gone hot but very fictional like bf1 would be fun

[hybrid totem]

Night maps again? Tell me, would you rather have night maps or more maps?

[lilac linden]

More maps. Fuck the night. 😂

Cold War does sound interesting

[hybrid totem]

I still want a battlefield/fallout crossover

[lilac linden]

Interesting

[fervent rose]

i'd love to see somebody try to make fallout4 power armor work in a mp fps

it probably is not a workable idea but idk

[storm oasis]

honestly i didnt like bf1 and bfv cz they were world war type games

[dull hedge]

Nah they need to go back to Vietnam

[storm oasis]

i just dont like the world war games

but 2042

it was perfect for me

[lilac linden]

NOT THE NAM 😭😭😭

[storm oasis]

and it is quite a shame to see it go down like this

[fervent rose]

just another bf release to me. its been rough since bf4

[solemn bridge]

yeah the hacker guy, he seems interesting to me but seems kinda weak

[storm oasis]

welp once again, i didnt rly had the chance to play at that time

[storm oasis]

his ability is basically EMP

thats all

[fervent rose]

bf4 included i mean. that game was actually broken on launch. and for like at least a year later

[storm oasis]

it is mostly effective on behicles

and u also need to be in range of the vehicle and hold it for long enough

its good on some maps

like kaleidoscope

but on most other maps not rly

pls in the trailer there was smth abt his abilities being able to control in world things

like roadblocks

idk about those but ive never seen those ever being used

[solemn bridge]

yeah... non existant feature

😭

[bleak bear]

Need more cosmetics. Sun Dance needs the bachalava mask like what the generic AI wears.

[fervent rose]

Daily reminder that the TOR-Maul should be deleted from the game

[fierce gull]

bruh if you use all of the dynamites as a 1942 engineer
you can't detonate crap

[copper ice]

blacklight retribution

[fervent rose]

but did the suits work like fo4 with breaking parts

[copper ice]

no

Breaking parts would be REALLY cool

[vagrant tangle]

would like to able to change optic sight cross hairs... the BSVM doesnt have a great red dot sight selection. or all guns share same optic choices..

[robust vapor]

you want a heart shape cross hair?

[vagrant tangle]

Has anyone noticed the bug with the dual scopes? red dot/3x. after using the C5 the sight swaps to the option? i will have the sight set to red dot...use C5 and then its changes to 3x

[robust vapor]

never experienced the sight bug before but that's just me

[vagrant tangle]

maybe, lol or the 3 dot predator style

[lilac linden]

Yes yes I do

[vagrant tangle]

i would pay....for sight options...marketing

[robust vapor]

same

[lilac linden]

Give me the mustache one from black ops

[vagrant tangle]

exactly! black ops was legit with customs

[lilac linden]

It was underrated man

[vagrant tangle]

i misss my black ops days....

[lilac linden]

Me too.

[copper ice]

the bug happens constantly for me seemingly randomly

very irritating

[cosmic sequoia]

damn back to the days of not finding full lobbies

this is an L :/

[violet otter]

Why is the C5 is even called a C5, is it too next gen to be a C4.

[lilac linden]

Because future

[vagrant tangle]

maybe EA already used the license for c4 in COD and cant use it in other titles they own...lols

[lilac linden]

Nah. Definitely next generation c4. Gotta be called c5.

[cosmic sequoia]

is the game just dead gg?

[radiant prism]

Nah

[fervent rose]

no? ive found mostly full lobbies for the past couple hours

[radiant prism]

C5 as goofy as it sounds does make theoretical sense

C4 stands for compound 4

[fervent rose]

i had to leave 1 i think because there were only 15-20 but otherwise its been fine

[cosmic sequoia]

really? i keep joining half full lobbies and having to wait a minute for fill

[radiant prism]

We as Gamers™️ are just so used to C4 being C4, when in reality C1, C2, and C3 all existed

yes C5 is goofy though

[fervent rose]

Yea actually now that I think about it I joined 2-3 where there were only a handful. but i left and got a full lobby almost instantly each time

[violet otter]

Would there realistically be a C5 made though in 20 years? C4 was during the 50s apparently and still the latest one now

[radiant prism]

It definitely could, nothing stopping it

I do have a bit of a problem with the naming convention in this game though

[lilac linden]

looks at the m5a3

[radiant prism]

A lot of the weapons and vehicles name changes involve either increasing the weapon's existing number by one, doubling it, or multiplying it by ten

[radiant prism]

M5A3 is honestly fine, since the SIG MCX Spear is going to eventually become the M5

[lilac linden]

Yes true

[next onyx]

It's the xm7 now but yea

[fervent rose]

it's also a future version with the new rail system

[radiant prism]

But like the Ka-520 Super Hokum from the Ka-52 Blackshark or the Mi-240 Super Hind...ignoring the slightly weird names, just...not 100% sure about it.

Feels weird just slapping a zero on the end and calling it a new name

[next onyx]

Copyright go brr.

[fervent rose]

they have been sued before over this stuff

[radiant prism]

On the other hand though, calling the Apache the AH-64X Apache Warchief goes hard as fuck

[next onyx]

There's a skin that calls the am40 the am17.

Ahz viper contro.

And bell.

[radiant prism]

There's a skin that calls the SFAR-M an FN Mk. 19!

[next onyx]

O yeah.

[fervent rose]

isnt that why theres no rotors on the condor

[radiant prism]

Honestly

The condor is just cool as fuck

Like conceptually I love it, regardless of how impractical it is

[bleak bear]

theres no urban maps?

[radiant prism]

Manifest counts as urban I guess

Sort of

Not really

[fervent rose]

no urban maps

[next onyx]

Yeah. In the beta I think you can do reset them?

[radiant prism]

Hourglass has a bit of urban but its mostly sand rn

[fervent rose]

Arica is your only option really

[radiant prism]

Lots of industry maps

But not really any urban maps

[next onyx]

You can set the propellers on the osprey in the beta client through a command but I'm not aware.

I'm not sure what it is.

[fervent rose]

hourglass is technically kind of urban but the buildings are so spread out that it plays terribly

[radiant prism]

yeah

[bleak bear]

thinking of like a huge city map

you can actually bring down the sky scrappers

[radiant prism]

Nope

[bleak bear]

so if entire team is in one the entire team will die

kind of like in hour glass

being able to destroy certain parts of the building to bring down entire structure

[radiant prism]

(also friendly reminder Siege of Shanghai is the only map in the franchise you've been able to bring down a building like that)

[fervent rose]

2042 is never gonna have destruction

[next onyx]

Would be cool if hourglass was based around a toppled building.

[bleak bear]

forgot... korean map

[fervent rose]

i was really hoping they'd do that on kaleidoscope

[bleak bear]

but we are actually fighting in city like in a block

[fervent rose]

a city park with a giant toppled building or two

[next onyx]

Oh God what's it called. That one map with the destroyed building on black ops 2.

[bleak bear]

nothing but those tall skyscrapers

[fervent rose]

but ye they aint making a massive new asset like a toppled building

[radiant prism]

I think the problem with collapsing skyscrapers is that they're too big to bring down dynamically

[fervent rose]

skeleton crew cant do that

[next onyx]

Nahhhh not ever.

[radiant prism]

BF4's was scripted and got old quick

(not to mention it kinda made that map worse)

[next onyx]

I doubt skeleton crew but that'll be genuinely a tall task.

Pun kind of not intended.

[bleak bear]

need more in maps other than barrels that blow up

like destroy buildings or something

[radiant prism]

Discarded does some cool stuff like that

[bleak bear]

like skyscraper

[robust vapor]

How to crash 2042

[radiant prism]

Pulling down the sides of the ship

[fervent rose]

those should be explosive triggered and not lame hold to interact but its a nitpick

i just despise hold to interact stuff that makes you a free kill

[radiant prism]

Yeah that would be cool if they could be triggered by both

[lament plank]

I am so goddamn sick and tired of C2 on spearhead BT. Did dice not even bother testing it? Like…HOW does such a dumpster fire of a point get made, let alone STILL hasn’t been moved away from this stupid building?

[radiant prism]

Honestly it never gets used to kill, it’s really just to open up another way into the ship

Also the rocket explosion on Orbital is fucking cool IMO

[fervent rose]

being able to detonate c5 to squash people with the walls would be funny as fuck

[radiant prism]

Agreed

[fervent rose]

normally i hate rat c5 shit but that's hilarious

[radiant prism]

But I agree that would actually be a good idea

[next onyx]

I've been meming around with c4 and now I kinda can't live without it.

Such an important tool.

[lament plank]

Who designed this stupid point? Literally just spent 15 min on C2 with no progress because of how garbage tier this map is. Who sits there and goes yeah this objective has nothing wrong with it, let’s just put it in the game. I want to see the stats from dice on spearhead BT of how many games end at C. Because I can guarantee it’s disgustingly lopsided.

[solemn bridge]

i love running c4 man

[fervent rose]

i feel that way about falck's heal gun now

you take so much chip damage just peeking to see people in this game

[next onyx]

It's weird I've learned to not rely on her.

I've been doing really well with dozer.

[fervent rose]

i find that i can do way more head on type fights with falck

[radiant prism]

Based

[willow sky]

Peaking with dozer 😳

[fervent rose]

tank the hits and pop back up

[radiant prism]

I’m so happy I’ve converted Way into a dozer main

[next onyx]

I'd play zain but well. The explosive spam is just fucking awful.

[radiant prism]

Or at least a dozer user

[willow sky]

i loved using dozer in the shutdown gamemode

[radiant prism]

That was so much fucking fun

[placid echo]

One reason why I like Dozer:
https://streamable.com/gofgre

[next onyx]

I wish I weren't forced to play as dozer to enjoy the game.

[radiant prism]

Kek

[next onyx]

I did play as Angel with the p90 though.

It was a really good change in pace.

[solemn bridge]

LMAO

[ancient peak]

Really need this rm68 nerf to go through already

[next onyx]

I think it'll end up coming in later or something.

[willow sky]

dozer on flashpoint in shutdown was too good man, the amount of things you could do for attack/defense

[next onyx]

Not even sure.

[robust vapor]

I like dozer too

cause Bash

and Smash

[radiant prism]

I can’t tell if I should go for the Avancys, S22, or P90 T1 next

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1104197420574855269/enders.gif

[ancient peak]

It's been a whole season of that nonsense man...

[next onyx]

But I probably misremember it.

[radiant prism]

Bash!

[robust vapor]

Lemme smash

Oh wait

[next onyx]

Same with the avancys bullshit.

[willow sky]

avancys? 😳

[fervent rose]

blasco was completely broken

[willow sky]

seems like the fastest

[radiant prism]

I didn’t use the avancys for a long time just out of principle

[lilac linden]

Dok no!!!

[willow sky]

Absolutely LOL

[radiant prism]

Blasco was clutch for that mode

[fervent rose]

you could cover 2 entrances with tugs/blasco gadget

totally busted

[willow sky]

in a coordinated team you could literally protect and watch 2 objectives and advise your teammates where the enemy was

[radiant prism]

But bullying people with Dozer was just fucking fun

[fervent rose]

you could watch 3

[willow sky]

that shit got me the win all the time

[radiant prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1097275266163802233/1097284233078251593/Dozer_Ready_2.gif

[willow sky]

i think paik was my offense recon for attack

[radiant prism]

Ok but question why is Casper so fucking drippy

There’s so many good combos for him

[fervent rose]

because dice knows their playerbase

in this regard

[willow sky]

the main combo be the death uniform + t1 helmet

[pine roost]

They probably realise that he is the only one who has been bearable this whole time

[fervent rose]

they often dont get it, but they do understand that theres a lot of self described "snipers" that want cool looking sniper shit

[placid echo]

I also got two new portal modes :v

One I've got a video of to describe it for me.

https://streamable.com/redzts

[radiant prism]

Way showed me this combo

This is another favorite of mine

[fervent rose]

i mean its kinda cool but you stick out like a sore thumb in white in this game

barring breakaway

[radiant prism]

Yeah its intended for Breakaway lol

[willow sky]

i only use white for breakaway
IF BREAKAWAY EVER ROTATES

[edgy oriole]

i use his t1 head with twitch prime pants

[lilac linden]

Never rotates.

[willow sky]

fr

[radiant prism]

Alternative drip

[willow sky]

all these damn winter skins and i cant get on breakaway

im crying inside

[fervent rose]

i'm all about the shrouded frogman hat for casper

[radiant prism]

I was kinda planning a whole cinematic film at one point and took a bunch of screenshots of drippy milsim tacticool outfits

[willow sky]

You think they should add a way to save outfits so you dont have to manually swap all the time?

[lilac linden]

Save a load out for each map

[willow sky]

SUPPORT

[radiant prism]

yeah that'd be kinda cool I guess

YES YES FUCKING YES DICE PLEASE I WILL WHORE MYSELF OUT ON THE INTERNET IF IT MEANS YOU ADD THIS

[edgy oriole]

[willow sky]

i know for sure theres a ton of desert skins

[odd yew]

[radiant prism]

Really good NATO skins for that

[willow sky]

gotta get them before the hourglass rework 🫡

[radiant prism]

image spam

[odd yew]

[lilac linden]

[robust vapor]

[radiant prism]

M O A R

(can you tell im mostly allergic to using full sets?)

[lilac linden]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[radiant prism]

Operator statusssss

I do love the Surface Tension sets

I will happily use them all in one

These give me MW3 Spetsnaz vibes

[robust vapor]

Jihad Angel

[hushed lotus]

Una perra toxica

Wrong chat

[copper fulcrum]

kek

[misty briar]

[copper fulcrum]

ngl I'd love to see Mint Blitz 2042 videos

[lilac linden]

I feel like the behemoths were kind of fun but don't know if they should or would ever make a comeback.

[storm oasis]

ah, squid g

truly an underrated channel

hes got content better than most people with like 1+ mil subscribers

[wide shore]

I think they’d be more helpful with the majority conquest system

[storm oasis]

i never played bf1 so idk much abt behemoths or how they worked

[lilac linden]

I was thinking something like that. But wasn't sure how to go about it with it.

[storm oasis]

anyone knows bf2142?

[lilac linden]

So mostly it would give a behemoth to the team that had the less points to try to get back into the game. It was basically a boss vehicle with a health bar

[storm oasis]

they had collosal ships that u had to take down

that was a cool system

idk much abt it too tho

[lilac linden]

Pretty much the same thing

[storm oasis]

damn

seems cool

[lilac linden]

It was glorious. Cinematic as hell.

[storm oasis]

well im not sure but i think the objectives were turrets that damaged the giant ship

[wide shore]

And ones that maybe make more sense for capping. The airship was great for flag caps. Same with the Char2C. But the train wasn’t helpful on every map. Same with the dreadnaught. I think if the vehicle is useful in capping it could be a great mechanic to bring back.

[storm oasis]

and both sides had the giant ship

so whoever had more control over sectors damaged the giant ships more

seemed cool

[lilac linden]

The zeppelin was probably the only useful one. The train was only good for that jungle map.

[storm oasis]

i wish i could play those games when they were in their prime

[lilac linden]

The dreadnought was practically useless unless used properly

[storm oasis]

now they are kinda lost to time

[lilac linden]

Yes they were and are still playable (except for the hackers)

[storm oasis]

in my region not rly

i got the bf1 a while ago from the ps plus

[lilac linden]

Oh yeah forgot about that

[storm oasis]

but i was never able to get into a single game

got into a queue with some guy

had a little fun with him

all alone

on a giant empty map

[lilac linden]

Pause

But sometimes that's fun too. Just run around destroying shit 😂

[storm oasis]

its kinda creepy tho

gisnt maps

that are supposed to be filled with players

completely empty

[lilac linden]

Oh yeah I assume it is

[storm oasis]

i hate saudi

i cant play half of the games here

worst part

i cant even switch the servers

[azure crater]

you have to maunally search for servers

just filter by number of players

dont use the auto join feature

[storm oasis]

ehmm how do i do that?

are we talking abt the bf1 or bf2042?

[jovial jay]

Saudi?

There's a lot of options in the server browser

Play around with them until you get something, I set mine to Game Mode Operations, free slot 10+, 1-6 something and region asia and europe

[cold beacon]

wait, why was Enders banned for 7 days?

[radiant prism]

Toxicity

Pick any given stream

[cold beacon]

can you send in like dms or anywhere a proof?

[lilac linden]

There was a video linked earlier about it I think.

[neon igloo]

I would like to see an enders toxicity mashup

I really don't think it's as bad as people think.

[azure crater]

bf1

[azure crater]

just google how to get onto the server browser on playstation

i play on xbox so it might be different

[cold beacon]

well I only see him giving critique to DICE about stuff and he points out what needs to be done. I somewhat agree with him that it shouldn't be a much of a "praise DICE for releasing game now" because to be fair. After 1.5 year of release, it should be much better by NOW and we got only like what, 4 maps? And the rest reworked?

[neon igloo]

reworked=new

[cold beacon]

where in BFV we had 4 maps in one expansion?

[stone cradle]

He needed to touch grass badly

[storm oasis]

alr thx then

[stone cradle]

[storm oasis]

ill try to check that out then

[cold beacon]

bruh

yeah, take a map that doesn't really work for you and it looks like no one tested it so we can rebuild it and release the actual somewhat good state of this map

1

year

later

I am not saying release 20 maps now, but goddamn after such time we should get at least some content not 1/4 of things we could get

[mental delta]

It's been like 18 months now and we only got 4 maps

[cold beacon]

yeah

[neon igloo]

I don't think when you paid 120 dollars for a new game in a line of history, it should have less than 1/4th of maps than any of its predecessors

[mental delta]

1 map every 3 months should be 6 maps at least

[ebon pilot]

but 3 months isn't a season

[mental delta]

It is

[ebon pilot]

not if you have a 6 month preseason

[cold beacon]

no wonders Enders was mad, he even said he loved the franchise, but seeing it go down like this makes me sad as well man

[cold beacon]

true

like I get his POV, why would we thank for 4 maps and making a game look playable 1.5 years later

[dusk falcon]

agree i think personally they should add a new map with the mid season update instead of reworking the vanilla ones

[mental delta]

Yes I was referring to that "preseason", like during 6 months we literally got no content at all with no communication, I'll never forget what they did just after game's release tbh and that's why I'm still upset after them

[dusk falcon]

just like how cod does it

[neon igloo]

People express sadness in different ways. By banning Ender, EA is being very oppressive and should pay for Enders counseling bills.

[cold beacon]

I mean, some maps are really awful rn ngl

[ancient peak]

Lmao I don’t know if calling for firing people is a good way at expressing “sadness”

[cold beacon]

but its not even like 2 maps rework per season rn, and they still give us one map per season

it looks like 4 people are working on next updates

[ebon pilot]

I feel like the preseason was supposed to be a lot shorter, but the negative feedback was so great they had to go and redesign a lot of... everything. Plus a bunch of management got swapped out during that time so probably a lot of stuff (planning / designing) happening behind the scenes we don't know about.

[cold beacon]

calling people out for having high expectations

like what? all chat?

scoreboard?

[neon igloo]

these are ground breaking features.

[cold beacon]

we got all chat like 2-3 updates ago

and squad management is not even here

yet

[mental delta]

I'm totally against devs harrassment and everybody should but I'm not saying they had a decent comportment with players either, no content and lack of communication during more than 6 months but they want us to pretend that everything is fine now, it's not how it works out, we have to respect those who make games but they have to respect us back, and this game's release is everything but respectful

[cold beacon]

because its Seaaaasaon 5 conteeeent

[cold beacon]

trueeee

and I even saw like the list of things they said after BFV and what they said about people "not knowing history"

If they want to save Battlefield franchise

next game has to be very

VERY

good

[mental delta]

The lack of those game mechanics is just a shame and almost an insult to us, I know they try their best to make us happy but this game was a shame at launch and nobody should forget that, people just have to express themselves respectfully though

[lilac linden]

And also not built during a global pandemic…

[ebon pilot]

during an engine upgrade

[cold beacon]

yeah, I think Enders tried, but seeing how the game is after 1.5 years of release its just...

[fervent rose]

and it didnt even get 2 years

[mental delta]

I totally agree because by seeing how bad they messed up with this one they don't have any other choice than making a good game

[cold beacon]

I dont say I hate the game, I dont say I dont like it, but the game being only "playable" after such a long time

is an insult to any gamer

[neon igloo]

You can build a game at home...

[fervent rose]

it's almost out of beta

[arctic grove]

battlefield 1 are better than battlefield 2042

[lilac linden]

Just like arc

[cold beacon]

and also, the thing about making the game "receiving content for 10 years or more" wont be bringing up old BF vibe so...

[mental delta]

To me it's decent now but it'll never be more than this, they fixed their errors and listen to us now but they can't repair all this mess of a game because it was made too badly, big up to Dice devs for trying their best though with apparently bad leadership

[cold beacon]

if they want to try it, its a balls of steel move

[ebon pilot]

some software development is definitely harder to do isolated from everyone else, especially if you need constant immediate feedback from multiple people

[cold beacon]

yup

kudos to them

and they even said BF2042 was supposed to be a platform receiving content for years

but... look where we are

[ebon pilot]

still receiving content?

maybe that's how they plan on doing it

[cold beacon]

no

they said next game is gonna be like this

[ebon pilot]

just release a little bit of content over a long period of time

[cold beacon]

and we are not informed yet about any other seasons

just 5

[cold beacon]

no

[mental delta]

Yeah and I'm not ok with BF2042 amount of content, it would be better to stop development after season 6 if it allows them to be more focused on the next game rather than getting 10 more seasons with 1 map each

[cold beacon]

they did it after release

6 months of waiting for bug fixes

without any communication didnt pay off well

[jovial jay]

Where?

[cold beacon]

uhh you can look up articles about it

[mental delta]

Thanks to horrible launch it won't lol, core of the game is bad so it would be better to move out the soonest they can

[lilac linden]

Didn’t they say they were only going to season 8 then stopping?

[jovial jay]

All I remember is EA CEO saying things like next game being different and they are fully about BF

[neon igloo]

I'd be surprised if only 2 people are fully about BF

[lilac linden]

I remember that too

[cold beacon]

but people are gonna b*tch about how they got fcked by DICE

and that content should be here

year 2 content

all that

Personally, I'd feel f*cked by DICE as well if they stopped giving content but if its only 1 map per season then move on

[neon igloo]

All of the content we have gotten thus far is like the normal size of a day 1 patch.

[cold beacon]

welll...

what can I say its true xD

[cold beacon]

huh?

I've heard they only said about 4 seasons

but we got another one

[stone cradle]

S5+ hasn't even been confirmed yet

[cold beacon]

MAYBE they can fix the situation, give us something so that we will be happy for now

[lilac linden]

Oh idk then

[neon igloo]

probably because they want to appear greater than they are and the content was already done in s3.

[cold beacon]

imo, they should give us content til' next game, make some new maps and leave it be, because I can see those steam charts going down horrendously

[neon igloo]

ANY other company just needs to release a supported BF type game and they will have my business

[cold beacon]

and the game will become the meme "There used to be alot of people... Now it's a ghost town"

[copper ice]

not profitable to do that

[cold beacon]

maybe, but at least they will save their face

and benefit in future, but seeing how it goes I dont believe they can see that far ahead

[copper ice]

face saving is only useful so far as it is profitable

they're all driven by profit

it's ass

[cold beacon]

true

well, if they dont release content, the backlash will be...

[mental delta]

Yeah but I hate specialists with a deep passion and map design is literally the most horrible we've seen in any BF games, so I'm happy if they give up on this one to make the next one lol

[copper ice]

the backlash for bfv led to even more sales for 2042

The average fan just consumes everything now

[stone cradle]

they should go back to V

[copper ice]

Make a good trailer and they'll all eat the hype

[stone cradle]

and give us the eastern front expansion

[cold beacon]

look, all I am saying is, if they leave the game in actual state or with AnOtHeR GrEaT SeAsOn then first, people who are playing 2042 will probably look at it and be like: what the actual f-
people seeing the state of 2042 will not look at next game so happily seeing how they "got back to BF3 and 4's vibe" with 2042 release.

[radiant prism]

Abandoning 2042 now would be just as bad as abandoning BFV first

[cold beacon]

yup, the game was doing better and suddenly plug was pulled off and bye bye

[radiant prism]

Not to mention the fact that BFV was a sinking ship when it was dropped but still

[cold beacon]

the only thing that needed to be done was eastern front

[radiant prism]

BFV got nothing but hate throughout

[mental delta]

They shouldn't have left it in the first place

[stone cradle]

I could see them commiting till season 7 or something.

[cold beacon]

wha?

Really?

[stone cradle]

😔 imagine if 2042 wasn't a horrible rushed mess.

[radiant prism]

Are we just gonna ignore the 2 years of pure hate it got?

[cold beacon]

I saw people praising the game before they pulled the plug off

[radiant prism]

I saw plenty more bashing it, trust me

[stone cradle]

They wouldn't drag everyone to work on it last minute to get it out somewhat stable on launch

[cold beacon]

well, then Idk

[radiant prism]

I don't mean from a content standpoint, I mean a public perception standpoint

[cold beacon]

I see

[mental delta]

Imagine if it never released or even existed and instead of releasing a game in 2021 they would have waited for 2023 to release BF6 which means we would have gotten a good game this year

[radiant prism]

The game got nothing but hate for 3 years, I'm not surprised they dropped it when they did. Without the benefit of hindsight, it made sense to try and work on the next title to make it as good as it could possibly be than to keep working on something many people would just never change their minds on. Whether or not that was actually effective is another discussion entirely

[cold beacon]

well and you see, the reason Enders was mad, because of all this. How are we supposed to be loving new content when there is barely any? That's his general point, I dont know about harrassing developers, I only saw lots of critique towards them which is imo, rightfully said

[pine roost]

When is the heli thread going away?

[cold beacon]

and look at 2042's release

[jovial jay]

[radiant prism]

Enders wants to pretend he was banned for harrassing developers, but he's ignoring the regular harassment of players every day he streams.

[errant scarab]

When hello kitty skin

[radiant prism]

Many people in this chat have been personally flamed by him live on stream

[cold beacon]

but didnt they say it was because he was toxic towards development team?

[radiant prism]

And that ignores the dozens of other players he regularly insults

[jovial jay]

What kind of flame did he throw

[cold beacon]

I dont really know so answer me this plz

[radiant prism]

I think thats what was publicly stated, but in his case it's more so general toxicity towards other players.

Because he REGULARLY says nasty shit

I have no sympathy for him

Maybe for more personal reasons

But still

[stone cradle]

not even 2023 lol

[mental delta]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-happy-laughing-crying-i-cant-even-gif-24163733

[stone cradle]

Just the summer of 2022

[mental delta]

What do you mean lol ?

[radiant prism]

Honestly

[cold beacon]

maybe he means like the other year

[stone cradle]

I said delaying the game to mid-2022 instead of 2023

[cold beacon]

if it released like 2024

[radiant prism]

I can't see them having waited longer than they did to release 2042

I mean yes it would've been beneficial but my god people were going stir crazy without a new title and with BFV dead in the water

[jovial jay]

EA wouldnt have the patience for that lol

[radiant prism]

No one would

As much as that's correct

[cold beacon]

well, the thing is they have their politics of "we-must-throw-it-on-sales-now"

when the game is not in a good state yet

[radiant prism]

The real problem was they needed all hands on deck for 2042

But all hands on deck wasn't enough

Clearly

[lilac linden]

They quite literally. Had no hands on deck.

Everyone was at home.

[cold beacon]

they had all hands on d-

(plz that was a joke)

[jovial jay]

Sus

[lilac linden]

NO!

[stone cradle]

no, the problem was the time defo

They literally had 6 studios working on this at once

[cold beacon]

well

[stone cradle]

that's not lack of resources, it's lack of time

[radiant prism]

I don't want to say it or support it, but releasing 2042 when they did might have been the best decision out of an array of worse decisions

[cold beacon]

Frostbyte needed an update cuz of 64 vs 64 idea

[lilac linden]

Yeah I agree

[radiant prism]

Lack of resources for the amount of time they had*

[cold beacon]

which resulted in lower amount of destruction

so that servers and our computers wont crash

[jovial jay]

Must be a cursed years for game that released with years in their titles, like cbp2077

[radiant prism]

It was this or it was development hell if you ask me

[lilac linden]

What about cod then? 😂

[radiant prism]

And frankly for all that, this game is not that bad

Especially now

It has its problems for sure, but it could be MUCH worse

At least its fun lol

to me

[lilac linden]

God the play test then release until now!

[stone cradle]

I mean there was always rumours this game was originally meant to be a battle royale..

[radiant prism]

I don't buy that. Tom Henderson is the source...and that's not a reliable source.

[cold beacon]

its not, but please after such a long time it should be at least good

[solid imp]

Tom Henderson rumors cringe

[lilac linden]

Heard that too

[mental delta]

The core of the game was bad though, the simple idea of specialists and maps that absolutely all got the same design and vehicles count was...

[stone cradle]

not only henderson was saying that

[cold beacon]

I think they had the idea of campaign

[radiant prism]

I think it is good to an extent. Like any other game, it does somethings well and some things not so well

[cold beacon]

but dude to Irish's VA it was lost

and development time as well

[radiant prism]

Henderson started that rumor from what I know

And I'm 90% sure it was speculation

Like most of his 2042 predictions

[lilac linden]

Yes

[cold beacon]

eh maybe, but more content would be nice tbh

[pine roost]

he did get quite a lot right

[cold beacon]

and also

[stone cradle]

I remember when he said 2042 was going to smash all records

[radiant prism]

Agreed, of course. I just think we'd be remiss in saying there's nothing the game did well

[pine roost]

but the whole idea about it starting as a br sounds utterly bonkers

[cold beacon]

imagine, this game is about climate f*ckery

[lilac linden]

Probably only because of them saying 128 players

[stone cradle]

yeah I guess he did get what orbital looked like right.

[cold beacon]

well, maps, alright, but

tornado?

that's it???

[fervent rose]

it was just trying to do both. and very poorly

but i also think that rumor is bogus

[cold beacon]

we miss floods, earthquakes any other climate f*ckery?

[radiant prism]

He said it was in Japan which was completely wrong

I remember when he swore up and down he had the reveal trailer, then when he was completely and utterly wrong, he changed his tune and said he knew the whole time it was reused BF3/4 assets for an internal trailer

[pine roost]

he also go the setting. He predicted no pats, gadgets, traits and even described some of the abilities that are in the game now

[radiant prism]

Tom Henderson is not a reliable source.

[stone cradle]

well atleast he got the map layout right lol

[pine roost]

but that was about the extent of it

[radiant prism]

He also raided this server at one point.

That was fun.

[solid imp]

Prediction: "there's a big building in the middle of the map"
See? See? I nailed it 😄

[surreal pier]

I can't find any matches, are there any issues with the game atm? Or is it on my end?

[lilac linden]

Raid shadow legends

[radiant prism]

Did you update the game last week?

[solid imp]

You update to 4.2.1?

[stone cradle]

Though surely they rebooted development with how this game turned out when it was given 3 years

[surreal pier]

Uhh yeah I probably did

I'm ingame right now lol

[keen karma]

damnn 1 year and 7 months only 4 maps

[radiant prism]

If no update showed up, try repairing your game

[radiant prism]

Try repairing your game, see if an update shows up

[surreal pier]

I'll give that a shot

[copper ice]

I don't think it was started as a BR, but it definitely felt like the lore and specialists were angled more towards hazard zone than standard game modes

[radiant prism]

I think thats the correct assumption chunky

If the game really started as a BR, we would've had a BR.

Not hazard zone.

[solid imp]

Everyone forgets that frostbite source code was stolen 5 months before release and they had to do a lot of rebuilding

[cold beacon]

well, generally speaking, this game is about climate changes, earthquakes, etc. etc. but where is this climate stuff? Earthquakes? Well, s1's map is after the eartquake, but that's just a lazy layout. The map is after the earthquake, no levolution for you guyyssss, remember game is about climate changes and any other fun stuff like no other!

[solid imp]

So if it feels like a reboot that's because a lot of it probably is

And not necessarily because of anything to do with BR

[radiant prism]

I mean...earthquakes aren't caused by climate change. There's actually a good amount of stuff related to climate stuff

Like on a lot of maps there's a ton of evidence of coastal flooding

[elfin coral]

@radiant prism can you post my map that i made based on what i could gather from the lore so that everyone else can help me improve it?

[radiant prism]

Most obvious on Discarded and Orbital

[cold beacon]

but why cant we get that moments in game

[radiant prism]

Sure

[cold beacon]

why is it so hard to make it, if they managed to make "somewhat levolution" on Orbital

then why not make it on other maps

they can make a tornado, but not stuff like water flooding the map?

[radiant prism]

Time crunch, probably

[elfin coral]

"technical limitations"

[cold beacon]

bs

[elfin coral]

hence why i put it in quotes

[cold beacon]

yea, yea

[radiant prism]

I mean coding that stuff is more than just doing

"map_levelution_happens=true;

[cold beacon]

I am talkin bout them

[radiant prism]

That kind of stuff also has huge implications on map design

[cold beacon]

I know, but if they managed to pull off something like in Orbital

[elfin coral]

nonsense

[radiant prism]

Because now you have to do double the work

[copper ice]

they probably intended to have multiple, found out it was harder to program than expected (this happened constantly with bfv), decided they'd add more after release, then it flopped and they didn't add any more

[radiant prism]

Yeah

[copper ice]

same with drones

[cold beacon]

well, history repeats itself

[stone cradle]

I did not know that

[radiant prism]

I remember they talked about dynamic plane crashes in V, then had to scrap it

[copper ice]

they have a whole loadout section for drones and all we have is the ranger

[stone cradle]

Makes sense

[radiant prism]

Which was understandable

We need more ranger skins at the very least

I don't care much for more actual drone types but we need more skins

[cold beacon]

well I knew something like this, I remember they had to update it tho

[radiant prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1101934178032963744/dozer_pet.gif

[cold beacon]

but even if thats true

then its even worse

they developed so much in that time

but they give us "some" content every season?

maybe I understood it wrong

[stone cradle]

Hm, so that's why they had 6 studios on the game at once

[cold beacon]

but

[solid imp]

It does explain the bugs but not keeping it on the original release schedule

the bugs and map reworks are why we don't get more new content

[stone cradle]

I guess it also does explain why there was barely any content on launch

[cold beacon]

and yet, reworked maps are lowered to 1 per season for season 4 and 5

[solid imp]

I think everyone would have understood if they said "you know what, we have a pandemic complicating development and the source code was just stolen so... we have to delay"

[cold beacon]

and we still get less content than earlier

[cold beacon]

true

[stone cradle]

I mean that's probably because not all of DICE's attention is on this BF.

It seems like EA's strategy is to the get the next one out asap

[solid imp]

but Mr. Candy Crush was running the show so all he saw was money

[cold beacon]

I think, what they released as "hype trailer machine" which carries the series back for few years now, would give us a lot of anticipation and hype that many people would be like in BF4

yeah, some stuff has bugs

but game is generally good

but nah

[cold beacon]

it had to go that way

ofc

[stone cradle]

I still can't believe they hired him to this day

[radiant prism]

I think another thing holding them back from developing more maps was diverting so much to map reworks

[cold beacon]

no god plz no

not asap

[radiant prism]

Which honestly I will stand by being a good decision

[cold beacon]

it sounds so wrong knowing how it ended up for 2 last games

[radiant prism]

(The reworks, not candy crush guy)

[solid imp]

That's exactly my point- once they chose to focus resources on fixing the game the rest of what we've seen makes 100% sense

Which was the correct call... the best call would have been delaying but we can't really time travel back to launch day can we

[cold beacon]

ehhh

it just sucks

[radiant prism]

Honestly I'm ok with it, because I'd rather have a small group of really solid maps than just a shit ton of maps with like 2 or 3 good ones

[cold beacon]

now they have no excuses

if they f*ck this up

the franchise goes down

[stone cradle]

I'm actually surprised EA is giving them another chance, I guess because it was super unfair for them this time round

[cold beacon]

they have insane amount of time

they focused on next game rather than give us content for this one

[radiant prism]

People say that over and over, but it never happens

[cold beacon]

and there is no pandemic around

[solid imp]

They have as much time as they want to take on it. After 2042 launch issues nobody wants them to rush unless someone internally tells them they have to for the usual reasons

[radiant prism]

They're stuck in an eternal game of catchup

[surreal pier]

Yeah ok lol after it finished repairing it only just now realized it needs to install an update

[cold beacon]

• Frostbyte is not getting update any sooner so

[surreal pier]

Thanks mate

[midnight mesa]

cough cough ea

[stone cradle]

I mean didn't EA state in an investor call that BF makes very little of it's actual annual revenue. It's mostly from EA Sports and Apex apparantly.

[radiant prism]

No problem! Happy to help :)

[cold beacon]

EAAAAA

COUGH COUGH

internal screaming

[radiant prism]

Man

[solid imp]

sooorta kinda... they opened a new studio for the campaign component of the next one and the usual cadence with things is to expand the development team for new installments not just divert a % of existing resources so that both current and future efforts both suck

[radiant prism]

I'm so glad I decided not to be a developer

I wanted to be a game dev for so long when I was younger

[cold beacon]

true

it only leads to depression if you mess up

[stone cradle]

Just be a software dev for a smaller start-up. Half the work, double the pay

[radiant prism]

Then I took literally 3 coding classes in highschool and realized its just hell

Its not even if you mess up

[surreal pier]

Ok now there is a different issue, when I download the update it doesn't actually download anything

[cold beacon]

and the feedback and the backlash...

[solid imp]

it leads to depression even if you succeed.. sprints are a crappy workflow/process

[surreal pier]

Why is this so bad now

[solid imp]

esp if you're constantly going from one sprint to the next

[radiant prism]

I don't think people realize just how much stress we put on the developers

[surreal pier]

I never had any issues with these type of things before with 2042 lol

[cold beacon]

well its not ours fault only right

[stone cradle]

me who is commiting to it for my life

[cold beacon]

lack of communication is their fault as well

[surreal pier]

Might actually need to reinstall or something idk

[arctic grove]

I think

we blame the developers

[surreal pier]

I hope it won't delete all of my settings

[radiant prism]

Game deving is tough enough, having the public sphere send literal death threats probably makes it hard to get up in the morning

[surreal pier]

I already had them wiped twice during the lifespan of this game

[stone cradle]

I had a large coding project to do over a year and just when I was about to submit I found this random error that basically rendered it broken

I had to salvage is quick for the deadline

[radiant prism]

Why would they want to communicate with a community that seems to want nothing to do with them?

I'm not shocked

[solid imp]

no the whole game development process is hard af... games are getting only bigger, more complicated, and with more in depth features. Which is why the whole BattleBit thing was such a laugh to me... like congrats you can build a minecraft fps and say you did it faster than a really complicated FPS

[stone cradle]

So I can imagine how DICE felt at that moment.

[radiant prism]

No matter what they say, someone's gonna take the piss

[surreal pier]

Yeah my game is bugged as hell

[stone cradle]

I mean at least the leadership is promising this time around

[surreal pier]

Time to delete and reinstall

Guess I'm not going to play today

[solid imp]

can you launch at all?

[granite island]

I can't imagine the hell of implementing the tornado

[errant scarab]

battlebit has a great base but doesn't have the same resource as a multi-billion dollar company wasting money and time

[solid imp]

oh not saying it's a bad game but developing battlebit with the focus of shaming a really complex fps is just nonsense

good for a quick laugh

[radiant prism]

The hell of implementing just about anything tbh

[granite island]

Even the tuktuk

[solid imp]

❤️ tuktuk

[radiant prism]

The level of detail people expect...brutal expectations but actually this time

[errant scarab]

I really don't see 2042 as complex, it's literally a big step back to the franchise with so many improved mechanics that they had

[radiant prism]

(dont kill me)

[stone cradle]

I don't get either. They're comparing some unity game to a massive game that had strict deadlines and extremely high expectations all running off a propietary engine that's notorious for being very punishing

but hey expecting gamers to know everything about game dev is impossible

[granite island]

You also have EA

2x the unfairness

[stone cradle]

Just like the people who were complaining about gta 6 looking horrible from the leaks

ah yes, alpha gameplay doesn't look like the complete game

[solid imp]

Frostbite 4 supposedly makes the tooling easier? idk really, no way to have a real clue there

[granite island]

The cop ai looks amazing

[solid imp]

Frostbite 3 (emergency rebuilt version) probably sucked to use

[stone cradle]

Lehto did acknowledge that frostbite was in the need of some upgrades

[granite island]

Is bf2042 in frostbite 4?

[solid imp]

no

[granite island]

Oh

[arctic grove]

it better be good as GTA 4

[surreal pier]

Something is completely destroyed with my ea app and 2042

[remote kiln]

that's correct, but FRBE is still notorious for being one of the most difficult engines to work with in the industry

[surreal pier]

I can't even install 2042 now

[errant scarab]

the current games with frostbite look horrible... empty and clean graphics I don't know what they did to my boy

[elfin coral]

on pc and next gen i think

[radiant prism]

Have you tried a computer restart?

[remote kiln]

and that won't change in the future

[surreal pier]

Ok installing works now, for some reason it didn't a minute ago lol

And yeah I restarted

Couldn't download the update so jus reinstalling the game

Wish I still had that 1gb download speed

Went down to a 300 mbs plan

Lmao

[stone cradle]

it's a really good engine if they optimise it well and have experience.

[cold beacon]

The only thing they need to do is:

1. Give us a voice of communication, directly. So that we know they receive actual ideas, because their team on live couldnt even answer one question and they were very picky about questions on Podcast. and the questions were usually about new map, new weapon, balancing weapon, when is it coming etc. so giving us the permission to voice our thoughts to them directly would be awesome
2. Give us the game when its ready
3. Give us informations, give us their feedback towards us
4. Stop going after popular stuff and keep the heart of Battlefield right where it belongs
5. Give us futuristic games, history is great, but we need those steps in future. ( I know next game is not going to be about any previous World War or about history but its just pointing out to point out)
6. Give us content
   Conclusion: First impression is the key to success. If they manage to make the game enjoyable, then its alright. No need for it to be perfect, just not so many bugs, give us the game we can enjoy after release and its fun. Then, hear our thoughts, maybe list them out and try implementing them in the future if it is really high value critique, which many people will stand by and at the same time give us some content so that we dont get bored with the game too quickly. But! Most important! First impression. Is. The. Key. That's all.

[stone cradle]

ig the 2042 team were rushed to hell on the game, so optimisation wasn't on their agenda.

[granite island]

I wonder what would happen if the frostbite engine wasn't ea exclusive

[arctic grove]

perhaps more mod friendly

[stone cradle]

nobody would use it

[remote kiln]

there would be no point to using it if it wasn't exclusive lol

[stone cradle]

I mean unreal exists

Why would anybody take it over that?

[errant scarab]

we want real battlefield game thats it

[stone cradle]

for modding though, probably a blessing

[cold beacon]

yup

[arctic grove]

look at bf4 WR

[cold beacon]

that's even better summary than mine lol

simple, yet perfect

[arctic grove]

they've gone this far too stop

[remote kiln]

1: long discord paragraphs are useless
2: half of these are just words with no meaning

let me say something which sounds good which means nothing materially

tldr

[arctic grove]

for me, better and accessible offline play and AI bot

[errant scarab]

a game that feels like a war

[cold beacon]

1. no need to be a d about it, I just wanted to point out some stuff
2. you think first impression is not a crucial thing?

[arctic grove]

like actual people yelling

[cold beacon]

well, let me tell you about 100k steam charts in november 2021

[remote kiln]

no I think you're just saying words which you think sound good and don't realise are just metaphors lol

[cold beacon]

where are they now

[remote kiln]

half of them don't even make any sense

[odd yew]

[errant scarab]

A battlefield with the graphics of BF1 but improved even more, mixed gameplay of BF4 and BF5, Destruction type The finals or the one we had before

[remote kiln]

DICE give feedback to us about us

??

[stone cradle]

[cold beacon]

oh yea, I wrote that one poorly. I mean that they give us info about what is really going on and what we can expect because for 6 months nobody knew what was happening

[remote kiln]

the battlefield community are one of the most notorious for I will say something which means nothing and act if as it does

[cold beacon]

I am talking about 2042 of course

[solid imp]

idk though... frostbite is really great at player movement/mechanics, that would be a huge selling point

[remote kiln]

it's no wonder DICE said nothing for multiple games for years with this level of indiscernible communication

[errant scarab]

ABOVE ALL improve the animations and the feeling that the weapon gives when shooting... currently they look like toys

[solid imp]

I'm sure they are under lots of NDA or the devs would be saying lots more 🙂

[cold beacon]

nah I am just gonna ignore this one cuz u sound like a d rn

[remote kiln]

no it would be a bad idea to say more

[stone cradle]

hm, I guess.

Maybe another studio would give us mirrors edge 3 then 😔

[remote kiln]

if they give details about something that doesn't exist materially NDA or not it sets up false expectations

[cold beacon]

cant even say anything cuz "yeah, saying long stuff is not worth it and half of it doesnt make sense because I cant see a simple point"

[remote kiln]

there's no simple point

[keen karma]

It's like they made this game without planning it just doing it for the sake of doing it

[cold beacon]

I said, first impression is key because they lost numbers due to the poor game release and they continue to do so for years now

[remote kiln]

you said 7 different things which are just conjecture

[stone cradle]

they said they don't have the tech

and that we must have faith

[remote kiln]

who's surprised turning from a BR to a shooter barely a year before release screws things over

[keen karma]

the people who like this game is because it is arcade and everything is easier

[stone cradle]

I mean we don't know if that's what actually happened

[remote kiln]

that's exactly why anyone plays battlefield lol

[granite island]

Yeah pretty much

[remote kiln]

nobody plays this franchise because it's a military simulator

[remote kiln]

no we do

[granite island]

The vehicles are easier to control than past bfs

[errant scarab]

No recoil and no bullet spread

[remote kiln]

it's exactly what happened, read the interviews with the old DICE management

[cold beacon]

not really, I quite enjoyed it, tho I played previous BFs and wasnt that bad at least in my view. Scoreboard doesnt lie as well

[cold beacon]

true

hence I use S-Far cuz for me its not that easy to kill anyone with it

[keen karma]

i mean

look very childish

just going in to play a game seems like a children's game

[granite island]

1 year later

[cold beacon]

what

[ancient peak]

Then go play a milsim

[granite island]

And I still only use the m5a3

[stone cradle]

I've never heard of such interviews, could you link them?

[cold beacon]

ye sometimes I change my gun on M5A3 or AK-24

[keen karma]

everything looks so childish even the graphics

like a phone game IDK

[cold beacon]

oh true

[granite island]

You can slam a condor with a tank mid air

And still live

[cold beacon]

its goofy ahh graphics

[arctic grove]

cosmetic included

[cold beacon]

BF1 had this

well, vibe is a poor word for it

[keen karma]

whyyy look like a phone game...

[cold beacon]

the immersion was amazing

[errant scarab]

LOL

[cold beacon]

the game felt like an actual war there you know, BF1 I mean

now BF2042 well..

[arctic grove]

soldiers yell and die

that's absent in 2042

[cold beacon]

true, as simple as that

[errant scarab]

playing portal is the worst battlefield experience i've ever seen i didn't expect that

[granite island]

Well of course because there's not that many goofy things you can do in bf1

[cold beacon]

and having those specialists is...

[errant scarab]

theres only xp farm server and HC server

[cold beacon]

well, if they had different skins for teams

I would somewhat accept it

like, Russia has those guys, USA has those guys

cool? cool

but nah, throw some clones on the map and tudutu dudutu

[arctic grove]

where Chinese

where Iran

[cold beacon]

I can explain to you

[granite island]

They're not actually USA or Russia

They're nopats

[cold beacon]

by the incident

of

Battle of Shanghai

and deleting the game in China as "China is perceived as bad guys in the game"

BF4 incident

I dont think they want to f*ck around and find out anymore dude

I think they found out

[mental delta]

"They're no pats which means they're not related to any country, they fight for themselves"
The specialists suddenly start to speak Russian and fight for 2 super powers

[cold beacon]

I mean, some of them start speaking other languages

[keen karma]

no good game patch?

[cold beacon]

I dont know if its a bug or it should be that way

[mental delta]

Yeah in the main menu ?

[cold beacon]

but at least it helps

[cold beacon]

nah, in game

[arctic grove]

where the Chinese announcer

[cold beacon]

I've heard them talking like in my language, english and russian

[arctic grove]

"FALL BAAACK"

[errant scarab]

cringe

[cold beacon]

maybe China was lore-wise "fallen state" probably

[errant scarab]

salut... lets go

[remote kiln]

they are spread out over multiple years but cc:

[mental delta]

My theory : they wanted to make a new thing and not making teams depending on super powers but rushed development and limited time made them change their plans

[errant scarab]

hero shuta

[cold beacon]

mayyyybe

lol

[stone cradle]

ah, thanks

[errant scarab]

@cold beacon what is ur fav hero ?

[cold beacon]

u guys are funny comedians sometimes

[arctic grove]

if I must pick

maybe Lis

only because she's a budget UCAV

[cold beacon]

my favouwite hewo is Fawck and Mackay pwobably

[errant scarab]

liss sooooo annoying

[cold beacon]

from my favourite hero shuta

[arctic grove]

then you'd hate the UCAV lmao

[granite island]

Hourglass but a battle Royale

[stone cradle]

I mean it defo seemed like the maps weren't designed for conquest initiallly. Capture points placement was pretty bad

[errant scarab]

yes

[granite island]

Which is basically hazard zone

[cold beacon]

transport vehicles standing silently in background

[remote kiln]

about 2042 specifically:

[cold beacon]

oh trueee

[remote kiln]

so yeah going from a BR to a shooter tldr doesn't work

[cold beacon]

yup

it doesnt

[errant scarab]

In the end it became a hero shooter then... and you think that's an excuse not to complain of this aberration

[cold beacon]

noted (maybe)

[stoic ferry]

what is this wrong version thing?

new bug

[wide shore]

Sounds like your game isn’t updated

[errant scarab]

yes falk... she broke classs system

[cold beacon]

you know what's funny

[errant scarab]

DICE restrict gadgets

ClAsEsss

[cold beacon]

medic with bazooka running around like nothing is happening

[remote kiln]

no I think it's not an excuse for you to spend 6 hours a day in this channel whining about the game

[cold beacon]

I abused this system so badly omg

[errant scarab]

Fanboy

[cold beacon]

no wonders I was first in scoreboard for a long time

[remote kiln]

if you seriously have nothing else to do than that I don't think you value your time

[wide shore]

Either way. It’s far too late to fundamentally change the game.

[cold beacon]

I mean youre the one here as well so

[errant scarab]

what good times those when it was said that battlefield is for mens and cod for children

[remote kiln]

?

she's here every single day and has been for the last year whining about the game

it doesn't matter who's here and who's not

[errant scarab]

fanboy

[wide shore]

If you don’t like specialists, you never will. Which means you probably never will like 2042. It’s not gonna change at this juncture.

[cold beacon]

well you dont complain about the game but u respond to it and keep talking like its gonna change anything

[radiant prism]

certified rule 10 moment

[errant scarab]

when animations rework

[remote kiln]

I have definitely complained about the game lol

[errant scarab]

soundtrack rework

[cold beacon]

well not when I was here alright

or at least I dont remember it

[remote kiln]

you joined 2 months ago

[cold beacon]

yea

[wide shore]

I totally see wanting to make sure some 2042 systems don’t make it into the next game. But some of these changes just aren’t practical.

[remote kiln]

bit late compared to when the game launched

[azure crater]

yeah idk why the autojoin makes you join empty servers

[cold beacon]

yup, but was here since the beginning

I mean in 2042

[remote kiln]

that doesn't matter

[cold beacon]

I know

[keen karma]

buy this game for 60 dollars the cheapest version and we will fill you with a patch that is the content... and if you are not happy we put 2 portal weapons every week so that it feels like there is content

[stone cradle]

[storm oasis]

oh damn

[cold beacon]

but what does it matter if I was here 2 months ago, 6 months ago, I am still able to have my voice here lol

as well as anyone

[storm oasis]

people check messages from that long ago?

[cold beacon]

if she/he wants to whine, then let them

[remote kiln]

because the point was about whining for a year..?

[cold beacon]

you wont change it

[azure crater]

i just got the ping lmao

[errant scarab]

yes i want cry because this game broke my little heart

[storm oasis]

ohh

u got the ping

[cold beacon]

lil heart cuz u almost have none! buah

[storm oasis]

ight just forgot slightly

lol

[remote kiln]

probably go play a different game lol

[errant scarab]

fanboy for a year

[remote kiln]

read the rules

bit of advice

I barely like the game

[storm oasis]

may i ask why?

[cold beacon]

well, u dont have to comment on someone whining, u can also play the game, not play the game, do anything else

[errant scarab]

i want destruction rework 😄

[remote kiln]

because it was a mess and was for more or less 2 seasons

[errant scarab]

more destruction

[cold beacon]

but if thats what u want to do then do it

[storm oasis]

this will most likely never happen

[remote kiln]

that's not acceptable for any game for it to be enjoyable

[storm oasis]

since it requires the rework of the entire game engine

[cold beacon]

none of us will see the actual results

[storm oasis]

which is gonna be hard for alr existing game

[cold beacon]

I just generally like talking on some discussions